Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

Woo Hoo Happy Sunday

trout fishing in america.

Reading the tweets from both sides under the #hcr hastag was great fun. There are definitely entrenched positions and some truly creative name calling

http://twitter.com/home#search?q=%23hcr

For reference here is every Democrat who voted for the Stupak abortion limitation amendment and who still voted against the final bill:

Altmire, Barrow, Boccieri, Boren, Bright, Chandler, Childers, Davis (AL), Davis (TN), Gordon (TN), Griffith, Holden, Marshall, Matheson, McIntyre, Melancon, Peterson, Ross, Shuler, Skelton, Tanner, Taylor, Teague

If one of these is yours you may want to change Democrats.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/11/on-to-the-senate.html#comment-269991

sensible idea Jamie. I was thinking the same thing this am while cleaning up the Kitchen.

Ancient skeleton found in Germany

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/11/photogalleries/archaeology-skeleton-pictures/index.html

why do the TV sunday pundits all think "Are you going to run for president?" and "Can Sarah Palin be president?" are such great questions which sorely need to be asked......

stupid questions seems to me.......

Thought for the day :
" Behind every argument is someone`s ignorance. "

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/11/phony-jail-bait-politics.html#comment-269990

Flatus,Renee
Very good points regarding giving to organizations the help woman in the area of reproductive issues..I also give to the Cancer Society so giving to woman's organizations targeting reproductive coverage won't be hard to do at all..Thanks, your comments did provide a little relief from the sting of this..Civil Rights to me are important, but to some there used for bartering..Real world,just look at what happened in Maine..

I don't know what Bart Gordon (TN) was thinking about, Jamie.

But I do know that simply saying women's reproductive rights can be thrown out because after all, we can start charities to help them, is a very slippery slope. Maybe that's what should have been done for all that health care mess. Start some charities.

"Lowe's offers Veterans Day discounts to military"

http://www.thestate.com/statewire/story/1017959.html

And from now on we should just go ahead and ask the Vatican to pre-approve any decision the US makes.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/11/phony-jail-bait-politics.html#comment-269973

patd

I won't swear to it, but I believe that somewhere in there is language that says the insurance corps must use a minimum of 15% of premiums for health care expenses. In exchange for handing them 15% of all premiums from all American citizens, they must actually pay the medical bills.

Of course they have until 2013 to make this happen while the premiums start immediately. Let the gouging begin.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/11/on-to-the-senate.html#comment-270000

Private charities for health care is what we have had all along. All those little cans to contribute to bank accounts to save little Johnny who has leukemia.

That has always been the Republican position. I have my wealthy insurance and I promise to give a dollar to Johnny before he dies because I can now afford it due to lower taxes.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/11/on-to-the-senate.html#comment-270003

Patsi, when Kennedy was running their were crudities such as these:

"Why is the Pope going to sell his Cadillac? Because he's going to ride Kennedy's ass."

and

"Kennedy's going to change the name of the Statue of Liberty to 'Our Lady of the Bay'."

You know, of course, which party was circulating these things.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/08/health/policy/08scene.html?th&emc=th

"Abortion Was at Heart of Wrangling"

"After hours of heated talks, the people she was trying to convince — some of her closest allies — burst angrily out of her office.

Her attempts at winning them over had failed, and Ms. Pelosi, the first woman speaker and an ardent defender of abortion rights, had no choice but to do the unthinkable. To save the health care bill she had to give in to abortion opponents in her party and allow them to propose tight restrictions barring any insurance plan that is purchased with government subsidies from covering abortions.

The restrictions were necessary to win support for the overall bill from abortion opponents who threatened to scuttle the health care overhaul.

The results of that fight, waged heavily over two days, were evident as one liberal Democrat after another denounced the health care plan because of abortion restrictions, even though they were likely to hold their noses in the end and vote for the bill itself."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/08/opinion/08sun2.html?th&emc=th

"Equality’s Ragged March"

"The big battlegrounds now are New York and New Jersey. New York’s governor, David Paterson, has called the Legislature back to Albany. The budget crisis heads the agenda, but gay rights must be there, too. The Assembly has already approved legislation giving same-sex couples the freedom to marry. Democratic leaders need to allow debate to proceed, and rally the Senate’s 62 members to follow suit.

In New Jersey, Gov. Jon Corzine’s loss to Christopher Christie means that the Legislature must move urgently to approve marriage equality. Mr. Corzine has said he would sign the bill. Mr. Christie has said he would veto it. Legislators must act before Jan. 19, when the government changes hands."

Good tweet from Harris-Lacewell:

Health Care had to exclude somebody in order to secure more GOP votes. They picked poor women. http://bit.ly/2pJdaz

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/11/on-to-the-senate.html#comment-270004

Just realized that should have read 85% for healthcare costs from premiums and 15% for overhead.

Unfortunately they get the premiums immediately and the restriction enforcement by 2013.

Helen Thomas and I on Book TV, coming up at 10:30a ET on C-SPAN 2.. http://bit.ly/23L3mM (re-airs tomorrow morning 7:30a)

Planned parenthood on the consequences to women
as a result of the passage of the Stupak/Pitts amendment....

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/about-us/newsroom/press-releases/planned-parenthood-condemns-passage-stupak-pitts-amendment-30821.htm

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/08/opinion/08rich.html?th&emc=th

"The Night They Drove the Tea Partiers Down"

"In the aftermath of this clear-cut demonstration of how Republicans can win, the revolutionaries are still pledging to purge the party’s moderates by rallying behind more Hoffmans in G.O.P. primaries from Florida to California. And they may get some scalps. But Tuesday’s loss revealed that they’re better at luring freak-show gawkers into Fox’s tent than voters into the G.O.P.’s. As if to prove the point, protesters hoisted a sign likening health care reform to Dachau at the raucous tea party rally convened by Michele Bachmann on Capitol Hill on Thursday.

Should the G.O.P. avoid self-destruction by containing this fringe, then the president and his party will have to confront their real problem: their identification with the titans who greased the skids for the economic meltdown from which Wall Street has recovered and the country has not. If there’s one general lesson to be gleaned from Christie’s victory over Jon Corzine in New Jersey, it’s surely that in today’s zeitgeist it’s less of a stigma to be fat than a former Goldman Sachs fat cat, even in a blue state."

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/11/on-to-the-senate.html#comment-270006

I don't care who was saying it...at least our policy wasn't being set by a bunch of 15th-century minded bishops. I criticize the fundie nuts and I'll damn sure do the same to the Catholics.

Tony,

Abortion is at the heart of every issue.! Even when it is not mentioned..it is a consideration for all other matters. It looks like we are going to just settle again on the lesser of two evils....having a little insurance is better than none; is what is going on.; with the Ins corps getting to have the loop holes imo.

When Craig say's that we will have Universal in 50 years...maybe...maybe not.! unless we deal with the power of the Church, the power of the Catholic Church is the most harmful, we will always have them calling the shots......Why isn't the Atheist, Agnostic, people ever considered?

Unless we follow the $ when you give to a charity. It will be abused by the people that run them...how much of the $ reaches the people that it intended for. I don' t think that two many are on the up, and up..I see it as ...The ins corps won. Women lost big time!! the middle class( biggest losers) will be the ins providers in the long run...cos we are the ones that will go to work every day to pay for it all.

If it is not Single Payer...the cost won't be shared by all..and just another way to screw us all. Im tired of settling for' something is better than nothing'..I would rather have nothing. So in the long run....this is no different than anything else. Just another way to get the middle class to pay for it all.!!! When I think about it...we are the only ones that will pay for it. The accountants and lawyers that work for the rich won't let their clients pay for any of it.!!!

Cute exchange between Darrel Issa and Helen Thoma when he's getting a picture with her:

Helen: A picture with me might hurt you

Issa: Only if you endorse me.

Later on he remarks a child is well on the way to becoming a Democrat. Helen asks, "What happened?" Issa's reply, "California"

Hmmm Was that news? Darrell Issa, "When I'm in the White House just ask me the questions first."

My Brother the Catholic priest want to be ( the D econ) came straight out and told me that-"any one that is not Catholic, is not considered a person; or worth the bother to have Health Insurance, unless they convert. They have to acknowledge the right to live, and to actively talk about the abortion issue at all times"..and to wrap it around all political arguments and goals...If you are not Catholic..you don't have a soul, and not worth the lives that they have, if they live it outside of the Catholic Church.............

Im sure that this is the same thoughts that go on in every type of Religion; they all are fanatical about it; the one thing that does unite them is the abortion issue.!

The passing of this watered down health reform and caving in to the Catholic Church, is just enabling them to have the power that they have.

solar.....your brother done shot a hole in my soul.......

"Hmmm Was that news? Darrell Issa, "When I'm in the White House just ask me the questions first. -- Posted by: Jamie"

ha, Jamie, I was thinking the same thing

ha.....i was thinking something else entirely......i was wondering if old issa had a toupee on.....didnt look right somehow.......

Jamie completely off subject

here is Allan Chapman's newest video off the 6th Generation album called the "Stars Over Benjamin" It is a look back at the little town that was closest to his family ranch where he was raised. He attended grade school and his mother taught school in the Benjamin ISD maybe 50 years ago. He is joined by his wife Rodeo Kate on fiddle and Red River Rick on upright bass. enjoy,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvjmHKWdIGo

It's all about religion:

washingtonpost.com >
In Turkey, fertile ground for creationism
U.S. critics of evolution help translate their ideas for a society already torn between Islam and secularism

Adnan Oktar, who as Harun Yahya is Turkey's best-known and most assertive critic of evolution, says he is
Adnan Oktar, who as Harun Yahya is Turkey's best-known and most assertive critic of evolution, says he is "following the path of Allah." (Marc Kaufman/the Washington Post)

ISTANBUL -- Sema Ergezen teaches biology to Turkish students interested in teaching science themselves, and she has long struggled with her students' ignorance of, and sometimes hostility to, the notion of evolution.

But she was taken aback when several of her Marmara University students recently accused her of being an atheist, or worse, for teaching anything but the doctrine that God created the Earth and everything on it.

"They said I was a liar if I called myself a Muslim because I also accepted evolution," she said.

What especially disturbed -- and amused -- the veteran professor was that the arguments for creationism presented by some of the students came directly from the country where she was educated in the biological sciences years before -- the United States. Translated and adapted for a Muslim society, the purported proofs that Darwinism and evolution were wrong came directly from American proponents of Christian creationism and its less overtly religious offshoot, intelligent design.

Ergezen's experience has become increasingly common. While creationism and intelligent design appear to be in some retreat in the United States, they have blossomed within Muslim Turkey. With direct and indirect help from American foes of evolution, similarly-minded Turks have aggressively made the case that Charles Darwin's theory is scientifically wrong and is the underlying source of most of the world's conflicts because it excludes God from human affairs. ......more here at:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/world/mideast/index.html

OT:
Zenyatta, One of those horses for the ages.

On 7 November, Zenyatta became the first female to win the Breeders' Cup Classic and the first horse ever to win two different Breeders' Cup races.

She is 14 wins in 14 races, lastly beating both the 2009 Derby and Belmont winners.

I would love to see Zenyatta and Rachel Alexandra go at it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenyatta

Sturg,

"solar.....your brother done shot a hole in my soul."......

He thinks that I don't have one after I left the Catholic Church? I asked him if he knew where my soul was being kept until I return to the true faith. He said that he "didn't know" He admits to me that I have read more of the bible than he has.......I don't think that many religious people have read the bible...t he book of myth, and Greed.

In the Bible it even describes the Palestinian lands..and the water way's that they covet so much...it is about the promised land..and the Catholics want the chosen people to invade and take over the lands of the Palestinian..this way, they will be able to say that it came about, b/c it was written in it; and nearer to the end of the world , and closer to God....but when that happens god will chose the one with the most souls to offer him....I said that mine belongs to the Devil, and not to fk with it.

He only talks to me, b/c we see each other when we visit our Mom..in front of her, we don't talk to each other too much..I concentrate my attention on her. We go sit at the kitchen table and then talk a little..it always comes down to the same bs..I asked him, if he noticed that religion steals families...

There are parts of our families that once were the best of friends..that is when they were all in the same religion...now there are a lot of them that belong to different religions, and only see family member's at weddings and funeral... I find that the most spiritual, and the ones that practice the golden rules...are the Achiest, and Agnostic ones.......the others are down right hateful, and hypercritical....

Im going to go and find the part in the Bible where they talk about the Palestinian lands, and the water way's..should have a lot of historical...ad, bc, and original deserving tribes....its all about tribes..when you really break it all down..it's all about.the in tribes, and the not in worthless tribes....the thing is that each tribe thinks they are the real one= a large part of terrorism, and what is wrong with this world.!!

Forgot:

Was David the original terrorist?

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/israel-and-palestine/091028/palestinian-water-torture-israel

Israel's new weapon: water

JERUSALEM — Human-rights reports condemning Israel’s dealings with the Palestinians have become so frequent of late they’re like the dripping of Chinese water torture.

In the last few months, there have been reports on the conduct of Israeli forces in Gaza, on restrictions on medical supplies and food entering Gaza and the necessity for a boycott of Israeli products and people. This week Amnesty International made its latest contribution with a report on water itself.

Amnesty issued a 112-page report that accuses Israel of denying sufficient water to Palestinians in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. The report says Israelis uses more than three times as much water per person as Palestinians, and that Gazans are down to 20 liters of water a day — the World Health Organization’s designated minimum level for subsistence.

“Water is a basic need and a right, but for many Palestinians obtaining even poor-quality, subsistence-level quantities of water has become a luxury that they can barely afford,” said Amnesty's researcher for Israel and the Palestinian territories Donatella Rovera.

Palestinian officials gushed about the Amnesty report. Israelis told them to suck it up.

A measure of the importance of water in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict — and throughout the parched Middle East — is the position water rights were given in the Oslo Peace Accords between the two sides.

Science will solve all our problems: If we can get the religions to stop fn with them...they are out to stop research on all things; b/c they don't like the results that science comes up with; and exposes e religiosity for the sham that it is. Capitulating to the Catholic Bishops, is just sad.! What will have more results: Science of Prayers for our water problems, and the ones to come:
We better stop spending all of our $ on wars.!! I typed all of these post word per word, this one is a little long, and I didn't worth the long read.

The right to life people should read just these two lines:

"Some 3 million people -- most of them children -- die every year from diseases spread by contaminated water".

Finding Water from Space: How One Geologist Is Using Satellite Technology to Help in Drought-Striken Areas

Gachet fills an empty juice bottle with the cloudy liquid, strains it through a portable filter and drinks. "Fresh water," he says and bursts out laughing.

It's an extraordinary find, not only because the area is so dry, but because underground water this close to the sea would normally be too salty to drink. Gachet knew there would be fresh water in this spot, though; messages from outer space told him so.

Finding more fresh water is one of the paramount challenges of the 21st century. Nearly one-third of the human race lacks reliable access to clean water, according to the International Water Management Institute. Some 3 million people -- most of them children -- die every year from diseases spread by contaminated water. A 2007 report by the U.N. Environment Program predicts that by 2025, if population growth and environmental degradation continue apace, 1.8 billion people will live in countries with "absolute water scarcity."

A former oil industry geologist, Gachet has developed a path-breaking, high-tech system that could help slake that growing thirst. The key: using satellites high above the Earth's surface to see what's underneath it.

By combining terabytes of space-based photographic imagery, ground-penetrating radar and topographic data -- much of which has only recently become available -- Gachet creates multispectral maps that are proving excellent guides for finding undiscovered underground aquatic resources.

http://www.alternet.org/water/

http://www.alternet.org/water/143482/finding_water_from_space%3A_how_one_geologist_is_using_satellite_technology_to_help_in_drought-striken_areas/

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/11/on-to-the-senate.html#comment-270024

Dooty,

Texas may be a very big state, but Benjamin is only 100 miles from where my grandmother Lydia McKeehan was born in Jacksboro in 1880.

Nice song about history of a Texas town.

link to cspan video of our book party.. http://bit.ly/1yEHDJ

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/11/on-to-the-senate.html#comment-270020

"My Brother the Catholic priest want to be ( the D econ) came straight out and told me that-"any one that is not Catholic, is not considered a person..."

Wow, Solar. I finally see your problem. However, your brother's opinion is not the whole church.

Ivy,

My Brother is not the whole problem that I have with the Church, just one tiny example, of the whole of religion. It does not have a very good history, and my brother did not start the endless hate, and intolerance of others..it was started thousands of years ago.!!

More thoughts that worries me about this new try for health care...just like the Auto Union Mobs:

There are lots of 'arms length' organizations and not for profit groups that are the middle men to our health services and these need to be seriously looked at because each one of these groups has a board of directors who take large salaries from the government money that was earmarked for healthcare. We need to reign in these agencies and make sure that they are actually doing what they are supposed to and that there is no redundancy in the system.

It just seems that the only business left in America is red tape. How many middle men can you put between producer and customer.

I have another Brother that has turned his back on the Catholic Church, for most of the same reasons that I did. His name is Rick. He is 2 years younger than me. He was lost to us for about 12 years.

During this time. He was in the mountains of Mexico, and was amongst many, many different types of Indians. He calls himself a ' Born Again Christian' He has never preached to me, or anyone else that I know of. He and I talk a lot about Science and the past history of the Church, and of all Religions. He knows quite a bit of History about most all Religions...he seems to think and can even give dates of when the Church adopted it's costumes in order to take financial advantage of the people...all of them...

I talk to him regularly and we don't agree with everlasting, but we do about Religion, and the Churches. He believes in Jesus, and in God..but not the organizations that distorts, and is always' in sharp contrast with the true meaning of what Christianity should be...he even doesn't mind me telling him that Im an Atheist..say's that he loves me anyway...and that when someone doesn't love all of earths people...they are just not practicing what The only one God believes...say's there is only one God...the God of all Religions put together...but have cut him up in little bits and pieces..so that they don't recognize him.....I can't deny this, can you? He and I think that there is room for God, and Science, and get along just fine..except that he doesn't like to Golf....

I just feel that the Catholic Church; or any Church shouldn't have any influence over us all.......what about the rights of the Atheist.,and others?

influence the laws that govern us that is...

Life is much less complicated being a simple Buddhist.

Just in case you weren't totally convinced that the teabaggers are truly sick puppies:

http://www.americablog.com/2009/11/teabaggers-attack-holocaust-survivor.html

Flatus

I'm just about convinced Buddhism might be the way to go if only because they don't care if I care. :-)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/taylor-marsh/in-pelosis-house-64-democ_b_349769.html

"In Pelosi's House, 64 Democrats Sell Women Out"

"The first female Speaker of the House makes history by passing a health care bill that not only doesn't have a robust public option, but also sells out women's civil rights. The Republicans acted reprehensibly today, heckling women lawmakers like the chamber was a frat house. Think Progress has that story. But in the end the Stupak amendment passed, 240 yeas, 194 nays, 1 present, with the names of Dems who voted for it totaling 64; the health care bill passing 220 yeas, 215 nays. Now it's up to the Senate and the conference, because if the Stupak amendment is in the final bill it will be a setback of monumental proportions for women."

Watching the Democratic leadership grinning as if they should be proud was disgusting.

I sincerely believe that most people in Congress have getting re-elected as their main concern.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/11/on-to-the-senate.html#comment-270039

Taoism's even simpler!

easiest of all is No Religion.

OK, John Lennon.

you mean johnny come lately? He was a amateur......very talented amateur, but amateur none-the-less.......

but i suppose i'm more pantheistic than atheistic......

does an atheist believe in agod?

OK, decent pun, but you prove my point. Off to get 800 some grit! (Big day for me)

800 grit.............mighty fine.........

The 'creator' is very perverse; or is a piss poor planner of things.

I guess that im on a water thing today:

Here we are on a planet that it's little babies are dying each and everyday from shortage of water..and the earth is over populated. How is it that there is not enough room for all of the people on earth. Why did he make most of the water on earth un-drinkable for us...there is 365 million trillion gals of water.!! I may be off a gal or two..but.....

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/11/on-to-the-senate.html#comment-270039

Flatus --

The best reason to "keep it simple" is because it's not.

(^_~)

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/11/on-to-the-senate.html#comment-270051

Solar --

The Creator is on to other projects. He makes' em; it's up to us to maintain 'em.

(^_~)

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/11/on-to-the-senate.html#comment-270016

Hi Solar,
Yes it does always come down to religion!! In my life I have seen and felt the intolerance of religious organizations..I doubt it will ever go away here in the US..Its so different in Australia.I have never even seen so much as a religious bumper sticker on a car in Australia,refreshing..I have thought about whether this healthcare bill should be passed at all,but there are somethings in the bill that will help,at least i think..I think of how long it took to get Medicare and it was very much worth waiting for,I'm torn,don't really know at this point?I do know it was very hard to see the President there smiling and taking credit when he hasn't so much as said what he is for,much less stood up and defend a robust Public Option!! The portion of the bill that's the hardest to take is the robbing women of there reproductive healthcare coverage ...Democrats are terrible and I'm so disappointed in them..I'm so glad to be an Independent..

Ivy,

Thanks. I think that you are right on that one. The God that I would believe in; would be one that is doing just as you said.! A Cosmic God that doesn't have the time to look over each and every shoulder just to see what we are doing. A God that would not grant miracles for some, and not for others.. Just my thinking that when there is a survivor in a plane crash, a fire and is called a miracle that he live...what is it called when the other 500 people did not survive.

I think that you are correct...he God would not be into our day to day bs...the thing about religion..is that they invented a small god..a comic god would be my pick...to big to imagine ..if he created the universe...what form of thing would he be....certainly not a little puny human that died on the cross...For Us All...if he paid the price...why are we still crucifying others ??

I don't remember the exact quote but that is a Carl Sagan route.

Creation and destruction are human-contrived concepts. It's all the same to the physical universe.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/11/on-to-the-senate.html#comment-270051

Solar,

The little babies aren't dying because there is too little water but because there are too many little babies.

Tony,

Hello, I just posted; and did not see you. The thing with me, is that I have seen this just too many times..as an independent. I won't jump up and down because you are an independent now..but welcome to the Cubs :-)). The thing about being an independent is that you can vote for anyone...there use to be some decent people on the right, and the left...but when the greedy ones started to change laws like finance reform...

they do it as a team..in order to keep themselves in power...ok so thats what they do..and we are expected to chose the lesser of two evils..I won't do that...and that goes for this health bill...it might seem like it will help a little bit...but im going to wait, and see how the senate will change it..and send it back for some more adjustments...and I would like to see a clean bill..and not with a few little pork additions..that will get the same excuse..." we had to make a deal" so this junk could be passed....

Champ,

Hello. Hope that all is fine...and I agree 100%

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/11/on-to-the-senate.html#comment-270056

To catch you up. Ten Ways the House Bill would change health care:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20091107/pl_mcclatchy/3351547

Jamie,

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/11/on-to-the-senate.html#comment-270057

It depends on whose babies we can cut from the herd..like deer. I agree, if god planned it this way he messed up again.!!

Solar,

Unfortunately, man has a brain. He has devised ways to keep from thinning the herd. Darwin no longer works for the human population. We save babies who probably shouldn't be saved and women have babies they never would have conceived without technology.

I agree that the weight of death falls on the third world nations with their excessive populations and lack of technology and medical intervention not to mention cultures that measure a man's worth by the number of children he fathers even if he has to kill off several women to do it.

No answer's here, but unless we reduce the population by about three billion while upgrading the techonological status of all living on the planet, there is going to be a lot of ugly dying going on.

"No answer's here, but unless we reduce the population by about three billion while upgrading the techonological status of all living on the planet, there is going to be a lot of ugly dying going on."

Got you.! But since we contaminate their waters; chop down their rain forest, ( free trade) take their lands..in Africa 1% owns 99% of the money..the other 99% that has hardly any $ is blk...

to be fair than..let the third world countries cut their herd by 2-1 we only have to cut 1 billion..or is the right thing..3 to 1 and we can keep blaming them for what we do to them in the name of ????

"Can Sarah Palin be president?" are such great questions which sorely need to be asked......
stupid questions seems to me.......
Posted by: sturgeone | November 8, 2009 9:24 AM

She can't be President. She's a foreigner. You can see Moscow from her kitchen window.

XRep -- You know it occurs to me that we have no right anymore to bitch about Palin's hypocrisy on birth control. The House has shown me that Democrats are every bit as hypocritical when it comes to women and their reproductive status. Worse, even. Here in TN, one of the most active women in the Democratic party is ready to bolt.

Don't know if anybody else follows the tweets of Roland Hedley (Doonsbury character)....but I think he just tweeted that he and Helen Thomas once had a "thing." LMAO!