Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

obama needs to replace all of his top advisers 'they seem to be in constant never ending campaign mode'
they did an excellent job getting him elected' gaming the primaries and selling the media on the idea of the first black president'' but theyre not doing a very good job helping him actually be president '

don't forget Dan Quayle and Murphy Brown.......

everybody knows if you live long enough your going to do or say something stupid eventually' maybe even more than once
fox news has the money 'resources and time to go back and investigate everyone associated with the whitehouse 'find something embarrassing and run it as thier top story of the day
this anita dunn ''mao comments a classic example'
who ever in the white house thought up the attack fox news strategy should be fired

Loved both of Craig and Helen's responses to the fox situation. I didn't hear until this morning about the white house trying to cut the fox white house out of the interview yesterday. Was very happy to hear of the solidarity the others showed by refusing to attend themselves.

boehner would look totally different if he took that racoon off the top of his head, wouldn't he........

ok.....maybe that's his real hair.....maybe not......but him aside, if a politician would lie about whether he has hair on his head why would he be presumed to be telling the truth about anything else......

now that's truly bi-partisan.......

ha.......hannity is going on imus show and imus got a list of things he's not to bring up.........lol

It's "fairly clear" that MoJo is trying to get into the good graces of the GOP, again. Darth Cheney was focused, not on Afghanistan, but on the profits of Halliburton and access to Iraqi oil for all of his second term and a good portion of the first term.

I could easily equate George W Bush with Dagwood Bumstead...and that would make Cheney Mr. Dithers.

mqw - I agree that Team Obama has not handled this well. I think they are trying to do what the far right has done so well. They want to set themselves up as victims; they want to look like martyrs. The problem is, people were already on their side. The far right would actually punch themselves in the eye to make it look real; the left doesn't have it in them.

Be true to yourself.

Slippery slope when the White House plays these games..
I like Criag's statement - Ya think they would choose to hit up !! Or as I would say - spend our money and resources on solving problems - Hey GIBBS - get out of the sand box.. if you can

Yes, spend our money and resources on solving problems...created by the last administration. They left plenty of stinkers in the sandbox.

However, they are now your problems to solve, pointing fingers won't solve them and is best left up to the bloggers, and pretty soon folks will forget why something is wrong and only remember what you did about it.

From the last thread:

ct,

In case you were asking a serious question, I think "eww" is meant to produce the sound those letters form, and is meant not so much as disgust, but at least derision.

"Someone used OMG when talking to me the other day. Get used to it. "

Carol, that really seems silly, or perhaps pretentious. After all both OMG and the real thing have three syllables.

the popularized version of "Ewww" came from valley girl speak and means "that's really grody to the max"

i think maybe

i can't see OMG without thinking about Bonnie Franklin in that goofy tv show.......they really drove that one into the ground.......

I was mightily impressed when Harry Truman lashed out on behalf of his daughter.
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/trivia/letter.htm

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/book-talk.html#comment-267700

HA! Too true, Carol. "Scathing" does sell best!

Sturge -- I've been meaning to ask you if you saw Tanya on Imus, and how the segment went....

Pats......
I don't see the I-show.....get it streaming on line......but i heard it and she was great and they both laughed a lot.....the songs she did were old country/western hits......very enjoyable to an old c&w aficionado.......

and did delta dawn, of course.....along with stories......

from Billboard:

by Deborah Evans Price

Tanya TuckerOn her new project, "My Turn," Tucker covers classics by legendary male artists including Merle Haggard ("Ramblin' Fever"), George Jones ("Walk Through This World With Me"), Hank Williams ("Lovesick Blues") and Buck Owens ("Love's Gonna Live Here," the album's debut single). Due this year from Saguaro Road, a Direct Holdings/Time Life imprint, the CD includes an endorsement from Jones, who says, "There will never be a more distinctive voice in country music than Tanya's."

From her anecdotes, she was a precocious kid, too, starting out at twelve. I thought she looked good and she brought along a good band.

As Sturg said, she and Imus enjoyed each other's company; their body language matched the audio that he heard.

morning...

If you haven't heard it yet You Lie Joe Wilson's wife has the swine flu.

Will she be the next causality?

Also why haven't we heard if he's going to face a Article 15 or 88 under the UCMJ?

If he's retired at half pay from what I understand he still retains his commission and falls under the UCMJ.

If he's fully retired and resigned his commission than he does not fall under it.

Why is the silence so deafening on this.

Inquiring minds want to know.

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and why hasnt he shown his birth certificate? Is he REALLY from SC?

oh... yeah.......he's gotta be........

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And gave up the oompa loompa dye job. Of course, the supercilious, condescending smirk will probably be set in rigor someday.

I went to the Gerald R. Ford Museum many years ago when they had a Lincoln exhibit. Lincoln had a great sense of humor. They had telegrams that Lincoln and some of his Civil War generals traded back and forth. One general wasn't happy with the fact the Lincoln wanted to be constantly updated on the status of his generals and the war. One general sent Lincoln a telegram that read "Found some cows in a field. What do you want me to do?" Lincoln wrote back "Milk them."

well....
I want an oompa loompa.... I want an oompa loompa NOW...

Anon-P,

It's time to let it go. Joe Wilson has already gotten more free publicity than he deserves, and issuing Article 15's is definitely below the Commander-in-Chief's paygrade.

Even in the military every chargeable offense is not automatically carried to its toughest possible punishment.

It would be better to spend time and effort on helping Wilson's opponent get elected than on worrying about Wilson's status as a retired officer.

So glad to hear that Tanya had an opportunity to talk! When she was on Hannitty they flapped on and on about ploitics and I don't think thye even mentioned her new Cd....only time Hannity addressed her instead of the men on the panel was to get her to agree with him on something.

Craig,

I can't believe that the White House, has been drawn into the Cable News Wars. They need to stay neutral like the Swiss:)

Although I am enjoying it, and having a lot of fun blogging about it. This is just handing people blogging material. I suppose we are supposed to take it serious but I just can't.

This War on Fox News,
This isn't Chess -This is Checkers...huh wasn't that the name of Nixons puppy ;) LOL!

Meanwhile back at the ranch I Man gives Sean Hannity, advice this morning, it's time to start towing the White House's line....LMAO!

Craig is right that it is best not to punch down, but FOX is so hard to resist derrisive laughter and expressions of sympathy for the mental state of anyone who believes anything they say.

If I decide to toe a line, it won't be one drawn by FOX

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Veruca honey, Daddy will get you something later ...

Love the t-shirt, Craig...I get the message!

Gail King was excellent on MoJo this morning. MSNBC should put Mika on the real news instead of their pretty newsreaders and hire Gail to deal with Joe. It was a fun show.

In case you don't have any right wing wackos among your acquaintances, this is the latest making the email rounds.... Beweare, Obama is about to sign away US sovereignty in favor of a one world government all because of phony global warming and pollution.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GPHZn1XuqQ

well.....
I want a one world government.... I want a one world government NOW....

Jamie, I think I read here yesterday that you love the Dodgers, so this caught my eye this morning.

DODGERS
Dodgers' owner Frank McCourt fires wife Jamie
"She had been the club's chief executive. The couple announced last week that they had separated. Her attorney says the firing would be addressed in court.
Dodgers owner Frank McCourt has fired his estranged wife, Jamie, from her position as the team's chief executive, triggering what her attorney said would be an imminent legal response." http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-dodgers-mccourts23-2009oct23,0,3940366.story

It's disturbing that Glenn Beck has a forum to put out damaging misstatements of facts as if he's citing the historical record. I hope enough people at least watch the History Channel to offset his illiteracy.

Chloe,

Yes the McCourt divorce wars should keep people entertained for quite a while.

Renee,

In case you aren't familiar with Lord Monckton (the man in the video), here is his Wick.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Monckton,_3rd_Viscount_Monckton_of_Brenchley

Of course watching him for 30 seconds will spare you all that reading. He is your basic racist wackadoodle. His other major cause after climate change denial is quaranteening anyone with the AIDS virus for life.

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EdVB....

Because if he did not resign his commission than he's giving the lower ranks the right to call their CO's liars when their speaking to the troops. That's why.

A lower ranking grunt would be brought up on charges and would then argue that a commissioned officer did the same thing and was ignored, why should he then be charged.

I believe it has to do with the cohesion of the unit and military discipline.

You can not allow this in the ranks nor in the field it could brake down military order and endanger soldiers lives IMHO.

If Wilson retains his commission then he needs to be held accountable otherwise any soldier has the right to do the same thing.

We seen how many upper brass were held accountable in the use of torture by the military and also the cover up of Ranger Pat Tillman's murder. It was reported that he had a tight group of three in his head. That was not a accident, it was deliberate murder and a deliberate cover up.

I ofter wonder when the fragging of officers will begin over in Iraq and Afghanistan, just like in Vietnam.

If your Generals are corrupt or violate the UCMJ and become above the law then how long before our military falls apart?

Let him take responsibility for his actions and prove that he is a officer and not a enemy of the state.

check this out: Mount Vernon, Wash. finance director is surprised by $17,748 bill for hosting Glenn Beck Day.. http://is.gd/4xCRA

"'they seem to be in constant never ending campaign mode'

mqw, Isn't that the strange that it's so hard for them to change gears. You may be right, bring in a few new thinkers.

"Mount Vernon, Wash. is on the hook for $17,748.85, mostly for 239 hours of police overtime"

Craig, I notice it was for police protection. I'm not all surprised though, because he has 'lots' of enemies.

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Craig,

I think I'll start a Twitter campaign to embarrass FOX into reimbursing the town.

Here's the full article coverage on the costs

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2010120920_costofglenn23m.html?syndication=rss

Craig,

Thats right: Obama is the same; but different.

Lots of news about him restricting pay limits to the Bank Executives that are borrowing money from the government. He is a little late in doing this. He should have done it a year ago, when he gave out all of our money with no strings attached.

Didn't Bush do the same, when he gave out the Tarp money with no strings attached.?........no diff.!

The R's have their favorite News Organizations that they love to fight with. The D's have theirs. they both do it to get our mind off- of what is going on at the time, and or wants a distraction from themselves. No difference here. No; its just more of the same.!!

Didn't the last Administration say the same things. when they lied about the state of the economy??

POLL: Recovery? What Recovery?
ABC News-Washington Post Poll: 82 Percent Say Recession Is Not
From the public's perspective, the rumors of economic recovery are greatly exaggerated.
POLL: Recovery? What Recovery?
A demonstrator holds a sign reading "the American dream is over" during a rally outside Wall Street in New York April 4,2009. From the public's perspective, the rumors of economic recovery are greatly exaggerated.
(Shannon Stapleton/Reuters)

The latest ABC News/Washington Post poll put it this way: "Many economists say that using the standards they apply, the recession probably is over. Thinking about your own experience of economic conditions, would you say that from your point of view the recession is over, or not over?"

Result: Not over, 82 percent.

http://abcnews.go.com/news

Flatus,
I read somewhere that the windows7 upgrade can slow down your computer a little, as opposed to buying a computer with windows7 already on it. I figured yours must have been an upgrade, but am not sure if you got a limited trial version or the whole thing.

They have an upgrade that will do three computers for $149., but I'm worried about the possibility of slowing down our computers. Deciding between that, or waiting a while and buying a new computer with 7.

I think it is silly to take this serious, this is the cable news wars, people can't seriously think this is anything more than a distraction, for all of us not happy with the progress our government isn't making on many fronts.

So the Administration throws their Left Base, some red meat - Fox News.

The weekend before this happened out in San Fransisco people on the "LEFT" were protesting the President, when he touched down for a 30,000.00 fund raiser. How do you spell appeasement?

Sometimes people need to pay attention to when the MEDIA is manipulating them. This doesn't hurt Fox News their ratings have gone up, people are tuning into see what the fuss is about. In fact Fox News is trying to make this into a bigger deal - trying to squeeze all the ratings they can out of it. It's funny, but when the news outlet becomes the news it's self. That's FARK.

Feedback for Olbermann, many enjoyed his spoof about being the number 1# rated cable news show now that Fox News is no longer considered a news outlet. The Hot Air folks thought that was a hoot. A lot of them saying Olbermann has a sense of humor, and that was pretty funny self deprecation comedy bit.

I did catch some Maddow last night. Imus was saying how she's pretty good so I tuned in last night. There was a segment on the predator drones being used in Pakistan to hunt Al Qaeda and Taliban, and questions about terms of engagement, it was really very informative. The woman Rachel was interviewing doesn't seem to understand the role NORAD plays though.

"what about the woman and girls in all of the Middle East"

tony, glad you brought that up. puzzling about the global acceptance and prevalence of boycotts against apartheid in south africa but not the equivalent outrage or action to the plight of millions of muslim women.

btw, there was nothing about gender civil rights inequality, chadors, burkas, shame or the uncontrollable passion resulting from exposed female hair the last time i looked at the quran/koran. course something may be lost in the translation i have.

"I think I'll start a Twitter campaign to embarrass FOX into reimbursing the town."

jamie, don't forget to mention that rupert is beyond rich and can well afford paying private bodyguards to service his lackies and bootlickers.

Lovable invasive species slide show

http://www.treehugger.com/galleries/2009/10/the-worlds-most-lovable-invasion-species.php?page=1

"this is the cable news wars, people can't seriously think this is anything more than a distraction, for all of us not happy with the progress our government isn't making on many fronts."

Ree, I think you are right on in saying this.

Solar, I know you hoped for it, but did you ever really 'expect' anything other than more of the same.

Ree,

Rachel is probably the most informative hour on MSNBC outside of the small amount of straight news that they do. Plus she is very funny and brings in all sorts of quirky items that aren't political.

I haven't seen Rachel in quite a while Jamie, but she is so unbelievably smart and level headed, that and she has such a great personality and sense of humor too. I don't know how you can go wrong with her.

Jamie,

Imus had caught her interview on Meet The Press, he was saying she was impressive. Remember Meet the Press was Tim Russert's show. Imus was saying he wants someone else to take over the helm of Meet The Press. I like Jeff Greenfield myself.

Ooh, I just saw the slide show Jamie. Those pictures are perfect. The most beautiful animals and the flowers are beautiful too. Thanks for linking that!

Have a great day everyone.

I've mostly given up on cable news shows with a few exceptions. One being the one Craig and Helen were on yesterday.... Rick Sanchez's show on CNN....
I put it on most weekdays in my studio while I finish up my last hour of weaving for the day. I will catch Rachel Maddow's show every now and then. I think she's funny and smart. Also Rick and I have a standing joke to tune into Anderson Cooper for the first 5-10 minutes in order to see what he's calling "the breaking news" of the day. Sometimes it's relevent.... but mostly it's just silly crap. I hardly call something like finding out balloon boy was a hoax or the seemingly endless stuff about Michael Jackson's death as "breaking news".

Anon,

My main point was that pursuing the Article 15 could, in some perverse way, help Wilson get re-elected and that may be a greater crime.

Just as Craig said in the White House vs. FOX News situation, it's better for the President to be seen "punching up not down." Of course, the President doesn't have to be the one who pursues the Article 15 charges, but it would certainly be spun as the White House exacting revenge even after the President accepted Wilson's apology.

And again paraphrasing Craig and President Truman, "It's not a crime for military officers to be dumb."

Furthermore, I don't pretend to know anything about the UCMJ other than having lived under it for a few years in the '60s, but I'll bet that there's a 50/50 chance that Wilson could beat the rap. He was, after all, acting in his capacity as a Representative of the great state of South Carolina at the time of his outburst, and not as a retired Army Reservist/National Guard Colonel.

If two Reservists are at work in the U.S. Treasury Department on Wednesday afternoon and one calls the other a liar (about whatever), does the guy deserve an Article 15 on Saturday because the alleged liar is in the same unit and outranks him?

Jamie....
the one thing that struck me while looking at all those lovable invasive species is that all of them we introduced to where they don't belong by humans.....
I guess that makes mankind the most invasive species of all.....

I gotta go do LUNCH....
taking a girlfriend out for her birthday.....

here's hoping history does not repeat itself. One year ago tomorrow I stepped off a curb after eating out at a local Soupersalad restaurant and fell when I broke my right ankle. I got two screw up in my ankle on election day and was released from wearing the "boot" on Inauguration Day. Well, off to get my pickup licensed and inspected. Later all.

In case anyone in here is still suffering under the delusion of the US having "The Best Medical Care In The World!", you should know that there is a shortage of the H1N1 vaccine. All the other developed countries have plenty. We don't. You see the majority of our vaccine is made elsewhere and they are taking care of their people first. .... fancy that. If you really, really want one, go to Canada.

We do manufacture vaccines but only had facilities for the usual seasonal strain and couldn't produce enough H1N1.

I love the Wall Street scare tactic push back that they will lose employees if there are pay cuts.

What is that phrase ... Don't let the door .....

my two cents and sense of the impact of our newest journeyman:
how do we know there aren't more here on the trail of even younger persuasion? many a day an infantile remark crosses the path here (and i should know because i make some of them). like the bodysnatchers they're among us ready to take over.

like patsi, i too had a childhood mostly in adult company, a former childgenius too cute for her own good and a habitue of many a family tavern scene which helped tamper the sharper edges of immature behavior.
as jack suggests, youthful exuberance abates after awhile and even if not, scrolling works wonders.

I love the Wall Street scare tactic push back that they will lose employees if there are pay cuts.

What is that phrase ... Don't let the door .....

Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | October 23, 2009 11:25 AM

That's the exact same reaction I had.

Well then I guess they will have to make do just like the rest of human race has to do. They will sink or swim laws of nature.

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Rene,

Those were pictures of LOVABLE invasive species.

Human beings where they don't belong didn't qualify for the photo session.

Happy birthday, DEEE-WIIIITTTTEEEE!!! (as Marty Stuart's been known to call him) Dwight Yoakam's 53 today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4foq4HcQdpg

First one of his songs I ever heard.

Jamie--Dwight did a "ghost song" once called "Johnson's Love"--unfortunately only available on YouTube as covers--the original's right nice.

Jamie

Have you read this?

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/30481512/wall_streets_naked_swindle?utm_source=daily-newsletter&utm_medium=email

Renee,

N ice lunch call....t he next time im coming with you....all the other pinks are so involved with baseball...that they lost 10 lbs...the baseball diet.haha

Thanks Fairweather,

I love me some Dwight Yoakam nice to see he's older than me :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMUn4T-GQKk

You Got Your Little Ways ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_MyDiXPLEs

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EdVB...

Personally I believe that he should be charged under Article 88 of which this is the text in UCMJ below.

“Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Transportation, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Territory, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.”

You can read the elements involved at link below.

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/punitivearticles/a/mcm88.htm

The Article 15 is a NJP and the punishment is minor. There were other members who felt he should be charged so why hasn't he.

Is the UCMJ no longer applicable to the Military any longer or are Brass above their own law?

That's my point. Does his children have the right to call their commanding officers Liars now or even the parties mentioned in the text above for a Article 88 Court Martial exempt from the UCMJ?

I thought we had enough of the past administration who believed that they were above the law. The same law that we all have to live under.

Are we still a country where there is no rule of law or in other words a dictatorship where the government holds its citizens to a different standard then themselves?

If so than we are no better then any other third world country.

I'm getting off my soap box now and will be quiet for the rest of the day.

Have a good day all.

PT just left me this link on Chat and this is going to make you all soo hungry.

http://www.recipezaar.com/Pumpkin-Cheese-Fondue-72105?nl=RZ-102009-featured-recipe__recipe-url-2

Bernie Sanders just mentioned a bill starting to make its way through Congress that will limit bank credit cards to the maximum allowed to Credit Unions at 15%. Currently some of the banks we bailed out are sending out letters with raises up to 29.9% on the balances "good credit" people.

At least the mafia just breaks your legs, they don't drive your family into bankruptcy and homelessness.

Call your Critter and tell them to support interest limits on all banks.

Where is our buddy Mudcat. He needs to come and tell us the background on his aggravation with the White House. Calling the WH "chicken sh*t" isn't a usual form of address. :-)

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/10/23/democrat-blasts-white-house-for-anonymous-sniping/

Hat Tip for Fairweather Lewis.

http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/2009/10/happy-birthday-dwight-yoakam.html

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Chloe,

The versions I've been using are the complete products, not the upgrades.

The price of $148 for three sounds excellent. Go to the Microsoft Win 7 site to determine if the version they'll be selling has the features you want. If so, I wouldn't think twice about getting it at that price. Their web site also has a program for you to use so you'll be sure that your computers will be adequate.

If you're upgrading from XP, you'll end up doing a full, fresh install which isn't all bad because it will get rid of all the trash on your drive. Just make sure that you've backed-up all your document directories so that you don't lose something important.

So far as speed is concerned, if someone's machine was running well on XP, it will generally run at least as well under Win 7. Understand, though, that computers grow long in the tooth at an alarming rate. I wouldn't spend a heck of lot of money doing system upgrades to an older low-end computer--I don't think it would be money well spent.

There's nothing wrong with using an old minimalist machine as a home server for multi-media and backups. Easy to do.

Jamie, this mudcat sitting in front of the confederate flag?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4553100.ece

Oh he wants to be important in a real bad way he wants to be a player....

Well I led off with the two ghost songs that feature Hank Williams in case anyone wants to write about him on a blog somewhere or just stop by and say hello for the novelty of it all.

http://takethistune.blogspot.com/

Ree,

Mudcat is one of Craig's buddies. He stopped in a couple of times. I don't know if he still lurks or not.

"The Democrats right now are a real bruised brand right now where I am," said Saunders, who lives near Roanoke. "There was so much energy put into last year's race, everybody's just burned out. You can't anybody fired up."

Jamie, Interesting article. He's the first I've seen with this take and I think he's on the money.

Hannity -F
Olberman -F
Rachel M. -B
Rick S - D
Chris Matthews -C
Bill O -F
Anderson C -A
Ed Schultz - F

Anyone use Zicam before? I read it ruins the taste buds. I think I'm coming down with the crud.

OD

What aspects are you grading? The only two on there who actually claim to be a newspeople: Rick Sanchez and Anderson Cooper. I think both of them are about A- or B. I really enjoy Rick Sanchez. Some of their commentary may be shallow, but it is usually factual as far as it goes.

Of the commentators and their factual content then I would grade a bit differently

Bill O F Hannity F; Olbermann B - all are slanted, but Olbermann has a higher truth quotient and will correct errors if found which the other two don't.

Matthews C but only because he aggravates me with the attitude of superiority. I understand the Latin without him translating and explaining in detail at least three times and congratulating himself for having gone to a university.

Ed Schultz C - Again slanted but no obvious errors. Just over the top noisy partisanship and frequently boring when yelling over his guests.

Rachel gets an A - She may be totally partisan, but she is smart will correct an error if pointed out and is a fun person to watch while being courteous to her guests including the ones with which she disagrees, I really want to go to a party where she is mixing the drinks and chatting.

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Rez,

I agree. I think the campaign tired out the Democratic voters. It is an attitude of "Look we elected you, just do the damn job you said you would do and leave us alone."

Posted by: patd | October 23, 2009 11:28 AM :
"how do we know there aren't more here on the trail of even younger persuasion?....
i too had a childhood mostly in adult company, a former childgenius too cute for her own good.....

I, too. And, In had a step grandfather who cussed in many languages especially English (never said the fword in front of me) and was around to hear much talk about the red scare, the executions, talk about lynchings and segregation. Knowing me as you do, you may think this is a sound argument for not retaining Me168 as Junior Counsel, however, I agree with Craig and Sturgeone.

I tend to feel more protective of gal type children than of guy type. Bigotry, I guess.

Kids are like mice... where there's one, there's more to follow... have fun with that.

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He wasn't in uniform.

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That is one tacky bedspread, but I dig the shirt.

Total governmentcontrol always starts out in such innocent ways, with responsible, just causes, and always with the public interest at heart. However, once they have obtained full control, they control the who, what, when, where and how. And you thought Big Brother had a Republican face. lol

http://www.reuters.com/article/regulatoryNewsConsumerGoodsAndRetail/idUSN2237873320091022

Thanks for the hat tip, Ree! Much appreciated! :)

Jamie, my Take This Tune post is up. Hope it works; it's a bit more scatterbrained than usual.

I've always loved to listen to Mudcat Saunders talk. That VA drawl's thick and slow as molasses, very different from a knobite lilt but downhome nonetheless.

"but I dig the shirt."

I guess I need to crank up my press. That one would be an easy knockoff and would I know I could sell a several hundred around here by Xmas. I might could make a spin off for the Indian crowd. :-)

"there was nothing about gender civil rights inequality, chadors, burkas, shame or the uncontrollable passion resulting from exposed female hair the last time i looked at the quran/koran. course something may be lost in the translation i have." - Posted by: patd | October 23, 2009 10:41 AM

That is because women were not subject to those coverings during the life time of Muhammed. The coverings only came after the 7th Century expansion, and the slow adoption of Greek and Persian customs, including the cloistered harem. Within 2 centuries, Muhammed would not have recognized his religion. and culture in what had grown up. The oppressive and mean-spirited religion of Hanbal, adopted these foreign culture traits while claiming to be returning to the original Islam. Hanbal is now represented by Wahabbism and alqaeda i- nothing like the religion and culture of Muhammed.

I own 2 translations of the Noble Koran, though translations were forbidden by Muhammed. One is by a Jewish Israeli, and it is a (relatively) mild and generous Koran. I mean, compared to the bloodthirsty hate-filled speeches writings, and rulings of 'st.' john chrysostom, 'st' ambrose, alcuin, justinian, chintila, wamba, etc. The other is a Wahabbist translation by a Pakistani cleric, and it is a hate filled and mean-spirited book more in the vein of the Christians mentioned above.

So, I asked a Mutazilist Muslim doctor I met when I had spinal surgery, if he would look at them and tell me if either was an accurate translation. He answered that one could make reasonable arguments for either of them, but the Israeli version was very scholarly, and translated words more in the sense that they had at the time Muhammed recited them. The Wahabbist version used conotations that evolved later. So, apparently, the originalist interpretations differ somewhat from the evolving Koran interpretations, both of which Muhammed declared in advance to be satanic.

I am shocked, shocked,

that a self-styled Libertarian of the ron paul school, would reveal himself to be such a bossy totalitarian. One would think that he had arrogated to himself the custodial power, in loco parentis.

Shocked, shocked.

I don't believe in individual liberties for minors, xrep. You people are just fucking crazy is all. Whatever. Have fun indoctrinating the lad.

If your cow dies, that is a tragedy. If your wife dies, you can always get another

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/19/opinion/19kristof.html?_r=1

From a comcast.news:

"He doesn't like conflict, he doesn't like taking on the corporate powers - he demonstrated that as senator of Illinois and senator in the US Senate. He is what might be called a concessionary personality, a harmony ideology," Nader said. "In Washington, you project that from the White House and the shark tank known as the Congress will eat you alive."

Nader said Obama has "lost huge momentum" in his attempt to overhaul the health care industry, in part because "he's turned his back on liberals and progressives who elected him. He doesn't invite them, for the most part, to the White House, but he invites the CEOs of the drug companies, of the auto companies, of the banks, and he bails out these crooks on Wall Street."

As for his political aspirations, Nader did not indicate whether he would mount another presidential bid. But he said he wanted to see "a major, historical, progressive convention convened to sort of elevate the whole progressive movement, with a thorough agenda of empowerment and substantive justice, and very substantial financial resources."

"The progressive movement - if it's not demoralized, it's fractured," Nader said. "It doesn't have a sense of pride and identity for what its forebears delivered to the American people."

Secondly, Nader said, "Maybe this book will stimulate some billionaires and mega-millionaires who are enlightened and of advanced age and have no axe to grind, who will come forward and take [on] their great cause."

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Jamie, that will at least give them something other than their golf swings to think about as the LCSs and World Series proceed.

Jamie..I'm grading them on the quality of their congtribution to discourse through their programs.

I also like Rachel. I don't see Olberman and Schultz as being much better than the Fox crowd.

They both use many of the same techniques of right wing talk radio..personal attacik, obnoxious imitating of their opponents, etc..

Watching 1 hour of Frontline is more productive than a month of Fox or MSNBC.

I tend to stick to CNN because there is more straight news.

The problem, in my view with Fox and MSNBC is that they both play to an audience who, for the most part, just want to hear their own views reinforced.

Ree,

Mudcat is one of Craig's buddies. He stopped in a couple of times. I don't know if he still lurks or not.

Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | October 23, 2009 1:03 PM

Jamie, I followed Mudcat through the primary campaign but that flag sticks in mine, and a lot of folks craws, my folks came out of Appalachia, they were "Unionist" we were not treated well by the Southern Democrats.

I should add, I would have been in the demographic, Mudcat represents. When I was a Democrat, I would have belonged to the so called Jacksonian Democrats. The Ulster Scots, we just migrated from one mountain range to another GRIN.

Rick Sanchez is giving a real nice prop again for Helen and the book.

I was just going back and scanning some of yesterday evening's posts to see what's been happening, and ran across the discussion about whether this is an appropriate place foe Me168 to hang out - I think that's a decision heand his family get to make. If LP had any interest in politics, I can't think of a better blog for him to hang out in than this one, and he's only 1-2 yrs older than me168, so I'd have to say, "Welcome aboard, kid, but watch out for the slippery decks." Heck we hardly even cuss around here. Pit - buy that kid a copy of Craig & Helen's book willya? He's got a reading assignment to complete.

Ree

I had a great grandfather on either side of that conflict. While I understand the historical affection of the stars and bars, the uses it was put to at later dates is anathema. It certainly doesn't belong flying over any government building, and people who display it prominantly may need to have their motives questioned.

The problem with benign objects put to bad use, is that they can never escape the association. It's like "Little Black Sambo" ... a sweet story about a well loved, smart Indian Boy of courage and initiative.

When the title moves to the US and is associated with stereotypes about pancakes, you have a book whose history is too ugly to share with children.

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Fair,

Yours was great. STop by mine as it links to a bunch of ghost stories you might enjoy

http://jdurward.blogspot.com

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Dark-Lord,

You almost sound like my grandfather who was born in 1873. He liked the old adage "kids should be seen and not heard" from the early 15th Century. My wife and I taught our children manners and respect for other people. They in turn have taught their children manners and respect. I always liked Art Linkletter's "Kid's Say the Darndest Things," just look at the "balloon boy."

You appear to have the concept that kids should be invisible or you seem to consider them disruptive urchins or maybe even fear them. If this is your attitude, would hope that you don't have children or even worst grandchildren.

What I have difficulty understanding is that anyone is still talking about me168. He must have had an impact.

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Re Civil War: same here. My example would be my dad's great grandfathers. His dad's grandfather fought for the Union, while his mother's grandfather fought for the Confederacy.

Having said that, I agree: those flags had their time, and their place, and it's not here and now. I don't mind them in reenactments, but flying over state houses and etc., I don't approve. Drives my brother, who's an unreconstructed redneck, nuts that I don't. The Civil War is still, in a way, being fought on the family level.

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OD,

I get the majority of my global news from BBC America. Then CNN for general coverage plus CSPAN for raw footage of political activities.

I truly can't watch Fox during the morning or the evening. It is just too distorted. With MSNBC I can get info to Google and chase down for accuracy. There is a slant but it is more in the way they use adjectives and verbs rather than outright lies.

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Will do, dear, and thank you.:)

Jamie,

I think it is the symbolism, and I do see the flag here and there. One of my Favorite bands is Lynyrd Skynrd, and Southerners are stereotyped. Senator James Webb has tried to explain, what the rebel flag represents to Southerners vs what it symbolizes to others.

My Family joined the Union, even the ones from VIRGINIA. We did have cousins who joined the Confederacy, Addiison Fairfax, if you want to see a photo of him in uniform, I would be glad to share it. The Fairfaxs were living in Prince William Co.,Va., and our 5th Great Grandfather William "Billy" Fairfax died in 1848. His grandson my 3rd Great Grandfather Alexander Fairfax Cooksey joined the Union Army up in Dubuque, Iowa -he died during the war of disease in Memphis. His cousins the Blakeneys, were back in Virginia in the Northern Neck, their mother Caroline (Fairfax) Blakeney, would be Alexander's Aunty. So the War breaks out, and the Blakeney boys decide, they are going to join up on the Union side so they go on up to D.C. Baltimore area. Their parents had died, and that left 2 younger sisters. The youngest Caroline Blakeney, ends up in another one of our Fairfax cousins care. Isaac and Sue (Young) Fairfax, she calls em Uncle and Aunt but actually Isaac is her mother's 1st cousins. William Fairfax's younger brother John Hezekiah Fairfax's son Isaac. So her brothers go off, and join the Union Army, and leave her with the Confederate side of the family. Caroline Blakeney is living with Isaac and Sue Fairfax in Westmoreland Co.,Va., and she relayed this story that got passed down through the Fairfax side of the family, how her Aunt Sue Fairfax, got a big cauldron? of hot water, and poured it all over the Yankees invading their property :) Imagine being a little girl during the Civil War, and your yard is being invaded by "the enemy" and the woman you think of as your Aunty is fighting them off with buckets of hot water... luckily it wasn't her brothers LOL!

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=cooksey&GSfn=alexander&GSbyrel=in&GSdyrel=in&GSst=45&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=3152237&

Apparently, you don't believe in civility, either, Mr. Uncouth. Do you really think having this lad on the trail is about indoctrination ? Is that what you think of the people who post here ?

All of my family were loyal to the United States of America. There were no traitors here.

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Oh, my. X, dear sweet X, that was a little inflammatory, considering that I don't consider myself to have any reason whatever to be ashamed of my Confederate ancestors. They did what they thought was right, and God forbid that I should pass judgment on them.

Fair.... I think Xrep's remark was meant for the dark lord....

PiT.... last night I was concerned about your grandson reading stuff on this blog that would be inappropriate for his age.... but your response mitigated that concern.... I hope me168 knows how lucky he is to have such a great grandpa....

Hello guys,

First off I would like to apologies for my gay comment. I was never trying to offend anybody, but that word hit my mind to quick to double-think it. Sorry tony and anybody else I have offended.

Your nevergoingtobe Lordship,

How dare you say an 11 year old should have no political views. I have talked with 6 YEAR OLDS WITH AMAZING POLITICAL VEWS!!! That is something you don't need to say a nasty thing like that. I pray to any child with an amazing political view they won't be brought down about it like your doing to me. But it's not affecting me at all. say all you want, I'll never be brought down in politics.

I'm guessing, I should never have brought the flag issue up SORRY everyone. Really I am, I should have thought first, people's heritage should be treated sensitively.

I just reacted to the symbolism.

I

xr, do both of your translations have the rather chilling admonition about being an infidel worthy of execution if upon hearing (not reading mind you) the holy words one does not believe them?

there's the word "gay".........and then there's the South Park word "Gay".

that confederate flag......that's a pesky little conundrum, ain't it.......

I don't watch South Park..but i understand what you mean. My parents have taught me better than that, I know better than that.

my great gramper fought in a war under that confederate flag....and i forget how many greats before that our original guy came over in 1748 at the age of 18 from westphalia, took him a bride in fayetteville on the way down to west georgia where he started him up a plantation which survived until it got gone-with-the-winded, and waved a sabre for whatever kind of colorful rag they may have been able to put up on a stick during the revolution.......now i hain't followed him back into germany yet, but i bet his daddy was burthened by one of those colorful rags......i gotta look into that someday.....but once you get over there in europa the colorful rags are CHEAP........

colorful rags are a drag.

me......cool

I'll be talking Reid and Pelosi on MSNBC "Countdown" Tonight (Lawrence O'Donnell hosting) 8:10 PM ET

Kids don't frighten me none! I was once a kid!

doh!.... slapping myself in the forehead....

Fair.... now I see what you were reacting to.... I didn't even understand Xrep's post....

Ree.... our ancestors are who they were.... I'm not apologizing for mine.... and I don't think you need to apologize for yours....

me168.... I'm glad you showed up today....

that confederate flag......that's a pesky little conundrum, ain't it.......

Posted by: sturgeone Author Profile Page | October 23, 2009 5:02 PM

Yep on the one hand it means one thing to one group of people, and on the other hand it means something else to another group of people.

Lately I find it it on my face, you know like eggs :)

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Thanks RR,
The real credit goes to his parents. I did have a little influence there. His mom reviewed both yesterdays and todays blogs. Her comment was that he hears worse in school than what she saw on the blog.

His parents and I are requiring him to type his post into MS Word before posting to catch the spelling errors. That's what I do since I am one of the world's worst spellers. His parents say that his mind is too fast for his hands.

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CC......you got great anticipation for that one? that sounds like it's right up yer alley-oops.......

cc........lol............Break a Leg............

Purple, I was wondering if they were really spelling errors or just shorthand. That texting stuff is all about brevity.

I'm sure me could make us all blush. Not me, me, but he, me. I guess it is he, me. Is it?

I am you as you are he and he is me and we are all together.

--john lennon

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PIT

That brain to fingers problem can be a doozy. It's good practice for him to double check the spelling. The rest of us just have to live with the homonyms that pop up in inappropriate places. Here Hear!!

frank does john

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVF66GVj8zU

me168

Several of the people who haunt this place also have blogs of their own. Craig has been kind enough to let us post links up on the left hand side under "Trailmix Links" and then under Blogroll. You might like to take a tour. Fairweather does some great stories and the others have everything from corn growing instructions to recipes.

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You'll get to watch in real time, X. Grab some popcorn.

If me can put up with us then we should be able to put up with me. Or something like that.

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Hi Me,
No worries!! Glad your here.I'm trying to remember when I started having political views?I think I was 15 when my Republican Grandfather told my Grandmother i was a damn Democrat..Seems funny to me now,but back then I was defensive...

I, me, me, mine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46vk716HMtA

Hi, Fair. I just went to your site to leave a comment and ask some questions, and couldn't without signing up with that blogstream thing. I gave it a good shor but they wanted so much info from me about what I intended etc. that I gave up. Do I have to go thru those contortions? All I wanted to do was to leave a comment on your site.

I also like Rick Sanchez - didn't he go to Fox for a while? Who is C Anderson? I check into KO occasionally and have heard him use some names
like troglodite that I don't think add to the discourse.
I like Don Lemon, also. Cooper can be weird but he can also make some cogent comments. Wolf can be so stupid. I just have a hard time listening to almost any news these days - it's mostly people being affronted or offended, and trying to strike back. I get a lot of news from you guys - anything horrendous I know you'll be here squawking! HA! Schulz is way too much of a mediocre thing.

I also wish Hillary were pres.

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Hi Carol

Mudcat's remarks now up on Hot Air....This administration is taking it from both sides. I say we call for a cease fire, until the wounded can be dragged from the field.

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/23/democratic-activist-wh-bullst-for-anonymous-deeds-distancing/

Thanks tony

"I also wish Hillary were pres."

Hi Bethy,
Me too!

Hi Tony!

Hey ct

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Hey Me

What's up in your school,do many kids your age have political opinions?

And what does me think about Hillary? I like her but does me?

You can call me Carol me.

Not realy... not many kids in my school follow politics.

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Hey, Bethy--I think what's happening over there is that the 'Stream has been flooded (no pun intended) lately with spammers trying to sell stuff, opening blogs and leaving solicitations in the comments section, which led to a sort of backlash from the administrator, so he's tightened up. Are you on Facebook or Twitter? If so, you can leave comments at either place, or send 'em direct to ktartiste@aol.com. Glad you're visiting over there!:)

Jamie,

Stars In Alabama.

http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/2009/10/take-this-tune-stars-in-alabama.html

Sorry Carol, I never saw your question,

Not really.... I was always pro-Obama since the start

Rut rho me. Be careful, there are a lot of Hillary lovers here. Tread very lightly, mini me.

Thanks for the advice Carol,

I'm logging off, bad headache and I smell Cheeseburgers

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He doesn't need to be in uniform.....

"in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.”

If he retained his commission than he violated the UCMJ.

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Very classy Master Me. It takes a big man to say "sorry." Saying it early and often is the key to growth and maturity.

Has your grandfather bought that book for you? He must be done reading his copy by now, ask him if you can borrow it. Quick read, you'll have it finished before the next school bell rings.

(^_~)

Jamie- your shithead friend finally got it together and made to the post. Tues maybe?
Rez- glad to see you home safe and sound. Give Jenny a kiss and a hug for me.
Renee- I want an oompa loompa too!

IG,

Still saving up for it.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/when-it-comes-to-media-wars-ob.html#comment-267863

I'm reassured to know you are tending to such pressing matters. Keep up the good work!

Well, A-P, what I want to know is why it's so difficult to find out whether he resigned his commission or not; I've looked. It seems as if you don't know, either.

DL...

No I don't. I too have tried to see if I could find out and there is no information available that I could find as to whether or not he resigned his commission and is retired at full pay or whether or not he retained his commission and retired at half pay.

Appears that no one is talking as there is no information available that I'm aware of.

Something like that should be available somewhere one would think.

Well, the DoD still owns him:

Department of Defense Public Record

Name :
ADDISON G WILSON
Service :
Army
Service Component :
NATIONAL GUARD
Pay Grade :
O-6
Military Speciality :
55A
Home of Record :
SC
State of Residence :

I'll bet it feels like Christmas for A-P, now.

DL...

Here's a link from 9\11\2009 who from what he wrote believes that Wilson still retains his commission and makes a case why he should be charged under a Article 88 and Article 134 General Article.

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=498594845&blogId=509632349

Yo A-P, Flatus just cracked the case for you! Run with it, buddy!

Pay Grade :
O-6

Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | October 23, 2009 7:53 PM

I'm assuming that's the kicker, right there.

Then if he is he should be face a court martial.

The link I posted above states why and states if very plainly.

Later, maybe.

Jamie..I'm also a big fan of BBC News..it is so dignified and straightforward.

It makes our cable news look like a bunch of clowns.

I wish Hillary were President.

The White House seems to be putting out mixed messages again about the public option.k

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Arrrrrrrgh.......when i read your post i thought you would be talking TO reid and pelosi.............lol

Patd,

I'll have to get back to you on that. Do you remember which Sura. Both books are up in the attic, arguing with each other.

Mx Lewis,

I ain't fussin' 'bout y'all.

Seriously, there is a 'confederacy of the heart', to borrow the language of Paul. I don't see a speck of this attitude about you.

The attitude excuses the attacks upon the US and it's postal, customs and miltary, and naval employees prior to thedecaration of war, and the attack on the US installation at Fort Sumter. It also excuses the perpetration of what we would now call war crimes and crimes against humanity in the the South, the border states, and also Illinois, Ohio, Indiana, and New York, and the enslavement and inhumane treatment of other human beings. This attitude generated the attacks on Ken Burns for his excellent Civil War series. Today, it generates the disgusting racial attacks on President Obama.

I am happy that you are on the Trail.

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Hi osh, Yeppers we made it. It's amazing we didn't hurt each other arguing trying to navigate Boston traffic one more time, I know I vowed at least once not visit there again. lol

I'll hug her but I'm staying away from dear wife a bit since I came down with the who-boo-goos this am. My sister told me to coat the bottom of my feet with Vix vapor rub and wear warm socks to bed. New one on me. So no Millers for me tonite :-(

Sea, I forgot add that the buttery almond crunch ?? is to die for. You can count on some holiday orders for that.

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Your feet will love you for it.

Rachel opened tonight with the Billionaires for Wealthcare protest today at a meeting of insurance executives. Here is the You Tube of the parody sung to "Tomorrow"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NDzA7nChB4

The Billionaires website crashed because of traffic but do go back to them if you get the chance. They are hilarious.

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Rez,

Offend the missus even more. Go dine on garlic. For some reason the stuff keeps flu viruses from multiplying ... should minimize the symptoms a little.

Sea, I have to agree with Rez re that buttery almond crunch. I'm gonna get some, and hope you won't mind if I utter some complaints as i stuff my fat face with it. It's really not fair. Oh yes, the chocolate almond bark is another pit fall for me, damn it.

Then there is the fudge that you can eat a pound at a time in one sitting .... the woman is a menace to ever spreading thighs.

Flatus,

Thanks so much for all the good information on Windows 7. You told me everything I was wondering about. I'll do as you suggested, and go to the Win 7 site and read what they have to say too.

When I said that we can get Windows 7 for three computers for $149, I'm not sure if I said it's an upgrade. I'm not sure that's the same thing you're talking about.

We'd be converting from Vista, not XP, and the computers aren't that old (less than a year), but it's been my experience that the laptops don't usually have a long life if you use them a lot (and two of the computers I'm talking about are laptops, which I prefer btw). One of the laptops is a business edition, so that may make a difference too.

You know, once of the reasons I'm having trouble deciding is because I have no problems whatsoever with Vista on any of the computers I'm talking about. I think I'm just anxious to try something that's new, and wish I wouldn't get in such a hurry.

I appreciate all the information, and once I check out that site you referred me to, I'll make a decision. Thanks again.

.. one for the road:

Bank failures top 100, only part of industry woes
"The cascade of bank failures this year surpassed 100 on Friday, the most in nearly two decades. And the trouble in the banking system from bad loans and the recession goes even deeper than the number suggests.

Dozens, perhaps hundreds, of other banks remain open even though they are as weak as many that have been shuttered. Regulators are seizing banks slowly and selectively — partly to avoid inciting panic and partly because buyers for bad banks are hard to find" http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091024/ap_on_bi_ge/us

nite

I propose a

95% surtax on bonuses, perks, and benefits that exceed $1M!LL!ON/yr, a 95% surtax on salarie that exceed $1 M!LL!ON /yr, and a corporate surtax of 100 % of all bonuses, perks, benefits, and salaries that exceed $2 M!LL!ON/yr.

Of course, I am referring to individual's compensation.
Sunset those taxes 20 years from now.

I can't see a brain drain as a result, as no country in the world so grossly overpays it's executives.

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Gotcha, X. That's my brother's kind of Confederacy, one that excuses all in the name of the Lost Cause.

About all that, he and I live in two separate worlds. He thinks the great great grandfather who fought for the Union was a traitor--while I think of both of them, Unionist and Confederate, as brave men who fought for something they believed in, and let it go at that.

It's still a complicated issue for southerners, and that is my only excuse for jumping you as I did--an inadequate excuse, but true. FWIW, one reason I seldom watch Keith Olbermann anymore--except when Craig's on--is because he lumps all southerners into that unreconstructed category, based on the behaviors of certain southern politicians--the Joe Wilson types.

Thank you for explaining what you meant.

Very strange bedtime music: for some reason, earlier, when I was writing today's post at Fairweather, this song kept running through my head.

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Nite y'all.

DAMN!! Sorry, I must be sleepier than I thought! The music link is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwJqJTdTHcA

I've spent a lot of time in rural GA the last few years. I've found a few unreconstructed racist loudmouths down there. Plus some middle class Whites who hate (not too strong a word) poor people. White or Black poor people. Also, some folks who seem to think that pimping and johning are activities protected by the Constitution. Of course, we have that in the North, too.

It's just that the self-justifications and excuses seem louder down there. IMO. People are more polite, maybe 'cuz they are seething w/animosity, and are afraid that if it springs a leak, all hell will break loose.

All that negative stuff said, I still like it down there. Why else would I keep going back ?

Oh, well, it's warm. And there's fishing. And the food is a little cheaper. Most folks are very pleasant.

The part I visit has a Dem Congressman. One a them blue ducks, I think. I met zel miller once. He was the Lt. Guv, and a pretty nice guy back in the days before he became a savagely freaky hate squawker, and twisted-face fang display. Too bad. Shoulda stayed on his meds.

Down there, they bowl the eggs. I boy el the eggs. My Grandfather biled the eggs. We all talk funny.

Back to bed. I have to get up early and get my tonsure shortened. New barber. Scary.

"....his mind is too fast for his hands"

purple, mine was too. outpaced them so much it's not been heard from in years.

Pat, I know you're joking, but I saw something you posted in the last couple of days ago about your IQ being extremely high as a child. Were you aware of it at the time?, I mean 'really' aware that you were ahead of others your age. I was wondering if that extra intelligence some children (babies?) get at a very early age, is because their brain develops so much faster? I've heard some amazing stories of toddlers reading, etc. at an extremely young age. And I know Purples grandson seems unusually bright and aware for his age. Just curious (about all things involving the mind).

Flu-like illnesses now higher than at peak of seasonal flu season
"Pandemic H1N1 influenza activity continues to spread throughout the country, with 46 states reporting widespread activity, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported."

As for the swine flu vaccine, which has been slower in arriving than federal authorities had expected, Frieden said that 16.1 million doses are now available and that at least 11.3 million of them had been shipped as of Wednesday, an increase of 5.4 million doses from the previous week. He said a lot more doses would be available soon, but he refused to predict how many and when. "We've had difficulties with projections so far," he said. "Vaccine production is much less predictable than we would wish," he added. "We are nowhere near where we thought we would be by now, or where the manufacturers had predicted we would be. Vaccination is our strongest tool, and not having enough of it is enormously frustrating." http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-sci-swine-flu24-2009oct24,0,2748081.story

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Chloe, I wonder why vaccines aren't produced in our federal penitentiaries.

"Were you aware of it at the time?"

fortunately no, chloe. however, i was always aware that there was an awful lot i didn't and don't know, that there are always others who know more, and more and more stuff to know if i only knew what and where to look.

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Flatus,

I would be a lot more comfortable with the inmates producing office furniture than vaccines. What better way to strike out with anger issues than to sabotage a run of vaccines? But that's just me.

I spent five years in the hole when I was in the joint-----pressing license plates.....but where I'm gonna get a job out here pressing license plates??

--Richard Pryor

The shortage of vaccines right now is ironic since that horrid, socialistic, government controlled place whose patients flee to get "The Greatest Medical Care In The World in the U S of A" all have plenty.

If you really want the shot, go to Canada.

Sturg, I remember during the War prisoners volunteering as guinea pigs to test the medications and vaccinations being considered for use in the war effort.

No matter that they were prisoners, they were still patriotic.

A significant portion of our office furniture, desks and chairs and bookcases, was produced and reconditioned by FPI; more properly known as Federal Prison Industries.

patd

That was pretty much my experience. I found out I was different when I got to school, but until then being an only child, moving around a great deal, my room full of books didn't seem strange.

Once I got a look at the real outside world, the amazing amount of things I would never know kept catching up and becoming clearer and clearer. To this day I'm astonished at the talents and capacities of others.

Who's in charge of getting out the flu vaccines? the CDC ' a federal agency under the dept. Of health and human services'.

In Cleveland Heights we had wonderful public libraries--Andrew Carnegie would have been proud. I was a regular fixture in them. It didn't take long for me to master the nuances of the Dewey Decimal System.

I had a fascination with stamps which translated into an appreciation of the geography and the history reflected in them.

I used to get massive boxes full of stamps from around the world. I believe they were snipped from envelopes by cloistered nuns.

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mqw

Yes and they do it by contracting for the production with profit making corporations here in the States. Of course they do get a lot from France just by buying it. France has plenty too, but then they have that awful Socialistic medicine with the number 1 rating on all health statistics world wide.

Flatus,

yeah I know about the Fed Pens making furniture. There is a low security Fed Pen here in FT Worth. They make or used to make furniture. When I was in HS that used to be a Drug Hospital. My best friend's dad was #2 in charge there. Stymie of the Little Rascals was their houseboy. Then in the mid 80's it became a prison called FCI. At one time FCI was a farm but they sold off a very significant amount of the land around the prison so that ended that.

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