Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

WOO! HOO!

Of course these wars are meant to be continuous.... think of all the profits to be made by the war machine corporations....

the hell with "in God we trust"...... the new motto on the dollar bill should be...
"perpetual war for perpetual profits".....

Craig,

I guess the real news in that longest wars link is that Afghanistan will pass out the Revolutionary War in five months. Other than that, it looks like their rankings haven't changed in the past two years or so.

It's all double plus ungood ducktalk.

On those occassions when war is monetarily profitable, it is usually only so for a few people. The rest of us get stuck with the tab, crippled, and/or killed.

A colorful hunk of spam going around accuses dumbold rumsfeld of owning Gilead Pharma, the co that owns the patent for Tamiflu, the H1N1 shot. Roche is the maker/distributor.

The spam says that rumdumb gets 10% of each sale, that the babybush Admin contracted the delivery of the shots for $2 B!LL!ON.

Is any of this true ? If so, it might explain why industry can't seem to get it's act together and deliver the goods.

Nothing rumdumb ever did in his life worked to anyone's advantage but his own.

The Cold War with all its permutations was undoubtedly our nation's longest war. Things such as Korea, Vietnam, the Cuban Crisis, armies poised for instant combat in Central Europe, SAC on constant alert, etc., were all part of the Cold War.

XR

Snopes on the Rumsfeld Tamiflu connections

http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/tamiflu.asp

Now the dangers that might be heralded are questionable. There was a bad batch of vaccine that caused problems several years ago, but that didn't involve Tamiflu.

XR

You hit the nail on the head. The whole military corporate connection is only beneficial to a small percentage of people. Look how long it took to pay off WW II. It drains money that would be beneficial to the population as a whole and kills off a lot of cannon fodder that the powerful consider basically unnecessary.

Now you can argue over whether or not a particular war might be worth the expense and body count, but usually the answer is NO.

"The rest of us get stuck with the tab, crippled, and/or killed."

XREP shoots and scores.

"I think I had H1N1 last week"

dark, you sounded a tad testier than usual. do your temper and your temperature rise when you're sick?
btw, what makes you think it was h1n1? and are you completely recovered?

speaking of the flu, anyone hear from sea and her wil?

Absence of war presupposes that we are rational people dealing with other rational people with both groups trying to converge on a rational solution; this is seldom the case.

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/10/30/alternative_energy_peace_corps_on_the_way

"Moscow is planning to increase the number of units in the North Caucasus military district by a factor of four, according to officers there..."

http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/

in keeping with this thread's title, here's an article from a year ago:

War Without End, Amen
Written by Thomas R. Eddlem

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/522

PatD,

I know Sea mentioned a few days ago that Wil's symptoms were gone and someone here told her to watch for any recurrrence within the next few days.

thanks, ed

It is just a matter of time..a little bit more time; and the country will be so used to war: the next generations will not even be fased by it...it will be the norm....we must get rid of the two party system. I don't care if Hillary runs again..she is part of this system. It is our faults in the end..we keep putting these suckers back in office.

Remember that I keep saying the Bushes or any of thier people are the ones to watch out for..look for more of the same things that XR just posted about..lot more...Why doesn't the other side-the Dems, insist on asking where Rumsfeld (the defense dept) put that 2 trillion that no one is asking about.....talk about the future generations paying for Obama's spending for the ecomony.....

Renee,

" Who Hoo" You do get around on that broomzommm mobile; that was lightning fast HA.!

Very true, Solar. Remember how the media cheerleaded this BS? Even all that "Wall of Heroes" stuff they did -- it was ALL to support a war built on a lie.

Patsi,

What I wouldn't give to see some presidents son/daughter on the front lines; and for all members of the Sen. and Cong, to do the same..imo, C. Rangle was right on-on this, lets have a draft again. just saying.

The last time that I went to the VA, I saw a women about 35-40 yrs old in therapy..she was screeming about the pain that she was going thru...want to see those that are so much for un-necessary wars; I want to see how they would like to have their loved ones in these conditions.

No end in sight, but also no economic downturn end in sight, either, although Tuesday's numbers weren't horrendous regarding jobs.
So soldiering is about the only thing available for many Americans, who were priced out of college, and locked out of entry-level business jobs.
This "War on Terror" has no planned end, and will drain us deeper and deeper towards the total collapse which is now a possibility.
There is no hope to build Afghanistan, and no real plan.
As the pundits say, "WE COULDN'T EVEN FIX NEW ORLEANS!"

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/wars-without-end.html#comment-268757

...it might have been regular old flu. Whatever it was, it was no match for cigarette therapy.

There some sobering statistics. Craig, did you forget it's Friday night? Some of us out here are just trying to catch a buzz and escape. Don't be a buzz kill.

forgot the emoticon with my last post- ;)

Cheney/Bush, pushed the war. Wolfowitz, Pearl, Powell, etl, were the salesmen....the Owners of the cable stations are friends that pushed the war...this was their advertising medium. We're the ones that shed the blood; are the suckers that fight between oursleves about the validity of the wars...STUPID....we are.

It was argued that we would rather have a stupid cowboy in office cos he meant what he said...never mind that what he said was....WAR...he was not stupid...he was the best salesmen that they could come up with...was he not the best salesmen to promote his baseball team? Ma and Pa Bush along with the Bakers, and the Cheney's talked him into selling us these wars...a President is just a puppet for them all. 9/11 was just the thing they were looking for.!!

Now did they get us into all of these wars just by themselves???? Didn't the Dems. vote for these wars...?? are they not making tons of money themselves...they also want in on the action..they also own defense corps just like the R's do....
Most times I think that this piss ass poor economy was all planned, just so the stupid wars could get their volunteers.....How much is it now to enlist.??? So yes a poor economy, means perpetual war....You can call me a Peace-nick but that's they way that I see it....wanna do something about that HA!

Sea,

Sorry about the buzz, I didn't see you there. Looks like things are a lot better now- I hope.!!

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Solar,

I gotta go to the VA Monday morning. It is always an interesting time. I went there Thursday to get my blood drawn for the Monday appt. It was actually pretty empty. Course this a clinic not a hospital. Every time I have been to the VA hospital in Dallas it was a zoo and very crowded.

Hey Patd, Will is OK now, thanks for asking. I was pretty scared the 1st 24 hours. and want to thank all of you for your fine advice. It was great to have running orders and take action. Have been running around with clorox wipes all week, I really don't need to get it and have to stop chocolate making. The whole episode made the cover of the Cape Cod Times today- they are being very conservative with the figures too. I heard 100 kids were out of school today
http://www.capecodonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091029/NEWS/910290316/-1/NEWS

what to do about lieberman? strip him totally of every single thing of which he's strip-able.........take it all and let him do what he will......and then just let the republicans filibuster until they're blue in the face and then let them filibuster some more........let them filibuster until they start doing the st vitus dance..........and watch as the begin to cave......which they will......make the little wretches mount a sordid campaign against Health Care.......

Hey Solar, don't worry, just joshing Craig. thanks for your kind words this week, L & L , K

OSH

Finally got a new post up on the Liberator site complete with two big band Tommy Dorsey numbers.

http://94campaign.blogspot.com/

Office choice is based on senority. I don't know if we can count him as a junior junior since he just became a Democrat or if the powers that be have to consider his total years in the Senate. If not, there has to be an 8 x 8 hole in the basement suitable for a turncoat. No chairmanships, and if they have to give him a committee how about the study of snail droppings.

Bring back the old filibuster. None of the gentleman's agreement crap. Make them read dictionaries and rise and fall of the Roman Empire. 24 hour standing with no let up. Show the American people just how full of crap they are.

Of course, looking at the House plan, it is a major giveaway to the insurance corps as it is with the potential of a 25% increase above going market rates while handing them tons of business and no relief for three years.

It's pretty bad when you are getting royally screwed by the WH and both houses of Congress.

Thanks to all of your knowledge I have kept Will on the couch all week, today was the first day without ibuprofen. The tamaflu is in short supply here- they are only giving it to children and teens- so I saved 1 for an emergency. The box said to only take till 24 hours without symptoms.
Jamie- How was jury duty? Did you get a package? I have called Sen. Kirk's office twice this week with no response. This is really pissing me off- wish one of Obama's pr people would catch on and get the thing signed so he could have something useful to say on Veterans'
Day. Gotta go check out the new post!!!

I'm still on Jury Duty. Trial started yesterday afternoon and is expected to run until Wed Afternoon or early Thursday when it will go to the jury. Doesn't look like all that exciting a case. Will tell all once it's over.

Dooty,

Same here; Im due for blood test the 9th, and the 16 with my prim. at a clinic..very seldom more than 10-15 wait. At the VA hospital. the same. It is alwlays very busy; but they have the computer tag game down to an art.! Im always impressed.

We could always use another military base....lets go attack Venezuela.! Why is there no news about these bases? How many do we need?

Really like the last paragraph:

U.S. signs pact with Colombia for base access

By Frank Bajak - The Associated Press
Posted : Friday Oct 30, 2009 10:53:51 EDT

BOGOTA — In a private, low-key ceremony, the U.S. ambassador and three Colombian ministers Friday signed a pact to expand Washington’s military’s presence, a deal that Venezuela’s Hugo Chavez has called a threat to the region’s security.

U.S. Ambassador William Brownfield signed along with Colombia’s foreign, justice and defense ministers at the Foreign Ministry in Bogota, U.S. Embassy spokeswoman Ana Duque said.

The Foreign Ministry said in a brief news release that the pact “respects the principles of equal sovereignty, territorial integrity and nonintervention in the internal affairs of other states.”

Chavez, who survived a 2002 coup attempt that he claims was U.S.-backed, has said Washington could use the bases agreement to destabilize the region.

However, South America’s main power broker, President Inacio Lula da Silva of Brazil, dropped initial objections to the bases agreement after senior U.S. officials visited to explain it.

http://www.militarytimes.com/news/

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Rio D. got the Olympics...plus how much $ to help us build a Military base in Columbia...mmmmm If we would have known this...we could have offered the Bear, The Sox, and the Cubs....well the Bear's and the Sox, well the Bears...awe let em have it......

Sea is right, this post is a buzz killer....nice cold bud now...

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/corzine-money-gains-weighty-re.html#comment-268671

Don1:
I do love that movie...

Twitter going bananas over the house bill. Lots of very unhappy Democrats... even the ones who weren't necessarily for a Public Option.

"very seldom more than 10-15 wait. At the VA hospital. the same. It is alwlays very busy; but they have the computer tag game down to an art.! Im always impressed."

yep, they even request that if your name has not been called by 15 after your appt time, tell them. Everyone should have the care I get at the VA.

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Ivy, Don1

Secondhand Lions was great. Anyone who hasn't seen it, should look for it. Great acting and a beautiful story.

Thanks for the Snopes link, Jamie. I guess the spam overstated rumdumb's influ -ence Gilead Pharma. Or, he's not calling the shots. I didn't think it smelled right, but I couldn't pass up a chance to needle the tories.

Jamie- did you get a package yet?

Solar,

We are rapidly turning into the British Empire without the financial benefits of keeping the raw materials from our "colonies". Our soldiers sent world wide to pacify and civilize whether necessary or not as our treasury is drained and our infrastructure collapses. But the 1% at the top shuffling global fortunes are just busy feeding the hogslop at the trough. They can always move to another country when they finish ruining this one.

OSH

Sent you an email. Yes I did.

XR

It's probably making him even wealthier, but I always doubt conspiracies ... people just like to talk too much and self interest is always more effective than nefarious plotting.

Two people can keep a secret if one of them is dead.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/wars-without-end.html#comment-268792

There is a big difference between us and the British Empire. We don't have anyone to hand over the Empire too...we are the ones that they handed the batten too...tag we are it.! They pulled out of the Empire business, give us some military support for it...unquestioned...and now they only put about 46 bil per year into their Military....this lets them enjoy the medical benefits that you talk about.

Solar,

True, Shame the Canadians are busy being lovable Canadians.

Solar,

Illinois definitely suffers from a shortage of mountains.

Chi oughta get the Winter Games. Then you could pour a couple of mountains for the downhill events. Make 'em hollow so you could put a "Chicago Underground" fun center in the center. Great for stimulus.

China?

Probably has long term ambitions, but they measure "long term" in hundreds of years which is probably why they are keeping us afloat financially.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/wars-without-end.html#comment-268780

"It's pretty bad when you are getting royally screwed by the WH and both houses of Congress."

Jamie,
I listened to Ed Schultz on XM today and he said President Obama has sold us out!! Ed says the President wants the trigger so he can keep O.Snowe and call it a bi-partisan healthcare bill..The President throws us all under the bus for one Republican,sad...

Pat Robertson says the Halloween candy supply is cursed. The 'lil devils who come to my house will leave cursing because I'm giving out Trail Mix bars instead of candy! lol.

Considering that most witches tend to respect the environment, they might be handing out trail mix as well. :-)

OSH

Speaking of which. Where's the "OFFICIAL" Trail Mix trailmix? Slap Craig's Face on it. Should sell like mad.

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Ha Ivy
That's Ok,Robertson probably says I'm cursed too! Good One! I'm giving out Reeses cups so at least I'm in good with the little darlings....

"What I wouldn't give to see some presidents son/daughter on the front lines; and for all members of the Sen. and Cong, to do the same..imo, C. Rangle was right on-on this, lets have a draft again. just saying."

Exactly!

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Yes indeed, Jamie!!

We already had two air bases in Colombia--Howard and Albrook. Oh, those were in the Panama Canal Zone, the territory we should have given back to Colombia because that's who it belonged to until we encouraged the insurrection in what is now Panama.

XR.

Picture this:

Im in hell. Im sunning myself by the fire lake. The Devil doesn't understand why im having such a good time...I like the heat now..cos I lived in Florida, down the street by Tony the Baloney...anyway, he turns up the heat a 100 %'s and I just break a little sweat.....he the Devil get pissed, and turns down all of the heat..is is now freezing...my little fire lade is frozen....he sees me jumping up and down screeeeeming , and dancing , and just having the best fun....He is really pissed and now comes up to me, and asks me why Im so fkn happy.....I Look at him, and point to the frozen fire lake......I start screaming."The Cubs Won The World Series"

Same goes for the Stimulus Money..will see it when my hell freezes over...or when the 2012 potus elections come first. hahah

That should have been....which ever comes first...

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Tony,
I don't worry about what Pat Robertson says. I'm sure there's more than one skeleton lurking in his own closet. lol

Give freedom a chance, pass the shield law.. http://bit.ly/9KS38

According to the guys in his company in Korea, robertson was a bootlegger and pimp. Is that a big enough skeleton ?

Solar, I got a couple of hell freezes over tales for later.

U B A stitch, fella.

"Pat Robertson says the Halloween candy supply is cursed"

Only the snickers bars. I know how to safely remove the curse. So send all of them to me and I will take care of the problem for you.

Jack

New THREAD

Our Longest Wars without end...... that is so depressing.