Craig.... great critique of what happens on cable news.... and that is the coolest tie yet.....
Fair.... I don't tend to read long winded posts.... except for Bethy's, which I adore.... but when someone like you posts one out of the blue, I figure it's because they have something to say and I read it.... your's from last night was most excellent...
I forgot to say..... Pogo... I know you can't see the video.... but that tie is so cool you could hear it in Craig's suave and debonair voice..... ;)
I think perfect examples of what Craig was getting at about how one channel creates gossip, reports it as news, and then claims no one else is covering the story so as to get other channels to talk about it is the bullshit from the swiftboaters and the birthers.
Sorr, been chatting with myself at the book party....
Max, getting back to your diatribe. Ok, George Bush elected to retain George Tenet (Slam Dunk) as DCI (he had been appointed by Bill Clinton, and George Bush had the authority to replace him and elected not to-and he became instrumental in lying us into Iraq) - as DCI he oversaw intelligence in the US until John NegroPointe was appointed by GWB as Director of National intelligence in 2005 pursuant to the 9/11 Commission recommendations - he served until Feb, 2007 when GWB appointed John Michael McConnell to replace Negropointe. NegroPointe and McConnel would have been responsible for the 2007 NIE. His National Security Advisor was Condi Rice, who he appointed. His FBI director was Robert Mueller. The CIA and FBI are the 2 major intel gathering orgs in the gov't., along with the military. Again, the NIE was established in 1950, not in 2003 or 2007, which were the 2 most notable NIEs during the Bush adminsistration. You can't get that right, apparently because it doesn't fit your narrative. So what evidence do you have to the contrary that suggests that the 4 top intel officers under Bush wrote the NIE to restrain him? I want a link, not your opinion from the BBFF.
I'll repeaqt - I did not discuss the antitrust issue - although I do beleive that antitrust laws as they currently exist, whti the exemptions for insurance companies, allow the insurance industry to operate contrary to the letter and spirit of the Sherman and Clayton Acts, and the exemption for them should be done away with. There are other effective monoploies out there, and they, too, should not be allowed to exist unless it is in the interest of the security of the US. The insurance industry contributes little or nothing to that and should see its exemption go away.
You're full of crap on the ID issue - Obama was clear that he did not want the reforms to extend benefits to illegal aliens. The Senate and Hose don't share that position enough to put the safeguards you and Hannity would like to see in the bill. Tough - elect more republicans and you may get what you want.
But enough with you - if you want to provide info demonstrating where I'm wrong, do it - I'm not arguing with you in the fact free land you live in unless and until you do.
Renee, I caught Craig on KO - he had Mrs. P laughing her ass off. I have to admit that I was cutting up veggies for dinner, so I just listened and didn't hear what tie he had on. :)
Give me a break. There are more ifs and contingencies in this than there are in the typical commercial general liability policy, and for those of you who've never dealt with one, they are legion.
Jeez, the GOP is getting desparate. They've moved from equating Obama with nazis and commies to...a Republican.
Sen. Lamar Alexander "has begun to see the Obama White House adopting an attitude similar to that of the Richard Nixon White House four decades ago, that "everybody is against us and we are going to get them."
So, based on the Senator's statement-based-on-nothing, Prez Obama now has an enemies list and will be attacking them. That is how Faux will spin it, of course.
While it is difficult to ignore the GOoPer media, like Valdemort, it only gives them power to speak their name.
Let us pajama-wearing bloggers go after Faux. They are playing the same game Ugo Chavez plays; you need a powerful opponent to appear more powerful. Now I've equated Faux with a socialist...this post has come full circle.
You don't suppose Team Obama is engaging with Faux because it's easier than talking about issues, do you? And, you don' t think Faux might not be trying to keep Obama mired in piffle not only because it elevates them, but because the GOP doesn't have any ideas to fix anything...and they are scared to death that the Dems MIGHT actually get something accomplished before they blow their seat lead in the mid-terms?
Every media outlet, be it radio, tv or newspapers, has a political slant. There's no such thing as objectivity, especially in this age of all-encompassing ownership. If you know the slant, then watch what you want. The problem is the preface "fair and balanced" doesn't mean anything anymore.
Every day I read more and more really dangerous posts at messageboards and huffpo, dailykos, crooks, I don't even frequent right-ist blogs, so I can just imagine what they're like these days.
As an aside, Mr. Tylenol is having very invasive vascular surgery today, he's in surgery now actually, and I plan to go and spend the night in ICU with him. Again, thank GOD (and quite a few 1970s politicians) for socialized medicine!!!
I actually do TRY to watch FOX at times. They are bearable once the morning snark has finished and before the wacko fringe takes over. Most of that 10 - 1 (west coast) does resemble news most of the time.
Anything after Shepard Smith is so bad and unbelievable as to be a complete waste of time and a hazard to sanity.
"A House committee has voted to strip the health insurance industry of its exemption from federal antitrust laws as senators announced plans to take the same step."
"He [Raul Grijalva] says that backers of the public option are focusing on those persuadable Democrats rather than negotiating with members who will vote no.
"Why are we spending valuable time compromising on an issue when, at the end of the day, they're going to vote no?" he said. "
And Harry Reid's fate may hinge on what he does on this issue.
First, thank all of you for your kind words about my post last PM. They are much appreciated.
Now then, a few words about my delusional senior senate critter, Lamar Alexander. He was a flunky during the Nixon years. He worked in Howard Baker's office, and later was a flunky for Bryce Harlow, a corporate lobbyist who is nebulously described as Nixon's "executive assistant."
To that extent, Alexander was on the scene in DC during the Nixon meltdown, and had opportunity to observe, at some remove, the fallout, the "enemies list", and other shenanigans. Nixon's "enemies list" was based on the paranoia he and his staff shared; where Alexander gets the idea that Obama calling out those who distort or flat out fabricate constitutes an "enemies list" is beyond me.
I swear, he was NOT this crazy during his terms as governor of Tennessee back in the late seventies-early eighties. Otherwise I could not have cut my conscience anywhere close to enough to vote for him--and I did.
I wouldn't want to be the ex NY police commissioner in a NY jail, of course the Westchester jail would likely be a relative safe haven for him if there is such a thing within an hour's drive or so from NYC.
We should also call for the NFL, NHL,NBA ... to be investigated and considered for enforcement of antitrust laws while we're addressing the really important antitrust violations.
"A private security guard at Newark Liberty International Airport was arrested on charges of threatening Barack Obama, the night before the president was to fly there."
Fairweather --Alexander fooled a lot of people into thinking he'd be moderate in the Senate....but he'll be whatever he thinks the GOP needs. He heard some stories about him diuring the campaign against Bob Clement that showed him to be a serious a-hole. Really rude and ugly to some Clement volunteers -- who were not hassling him at all.
I was actually watching FOX and they mentioned this complaint from Sen. Grassley (who is a total dork the majority of the time). If the problem exists as described then, I would agree with him.
You should not be required to give information about yourself nor state that you agree with a government policy in order to get the information you need.
Well I just went and checked and no you DO NOT have to give personal info to access areas of the site except for one and that is if you want to press the express your support button or are requesting information and emails.
why are we pointing fingers at fox? why not name outloud he who is responsible, fox owner rupert murdoch, instead of mere lackies, the fox varlets and rapscallions like beck and company?
a tidbit re obama vs fox in wiki's write-up on murdoch:
"In early summer 2008, a "tentative truce" was brokered during a secret meeting between Barack Obama, Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes (President of the Fox News Channel) at the Waldorf-Astoria hotel in New York.[39][40] Obama had initially resisted Murdoch's propositions, despite senior News Corp executives having recruited the Kennedys to act as go-betweens.[40] Obama resented Fox News's portrayal of him "as suspicious, foreign, fearsome - just short of a terrorist," while Ailes said "it might not have been this way if Obama had more willingly come on the air instead of so often giving Fox the back of his hand."[40] A "tentative truce" was agreed upon; Obama would be portrayed more favourably, while Obama would be more willing to appear on Fox.[39]"
"The latest security updates on Windows operating systems include patches for Windows 7 which had not been officially released yet."
A/P
Security updates are released as new threats emerge. Would you want it some other way?
FWIW, Win 7 automatically downloads and applies critical and security updates. If a user does not want this preventive behavior, it can be turned-off.
As I've said before, I was an early adopter of Windows back in the middle-80s when it came on 5-1/4" floppy disks. Over the years, I have never had a virus or any other type of malware discovered on any of my computers or those that I supported.
Achieving that feat wasn't difficult; it simply required taking common sense steps by applying available security patches, and through use of virus protection programs from reputable developers. There is no need for an individual to spend a single extra penny in achieving the level of protection that I've achieved.
For those who prefer other operating systems, fine. I don't knock those systems as each fits user needs.
Hi, I'm new here. I'm Purple-in-Tampa's grandson. I'm only 11 but I have permission to post on the trail mix from Craig. I'm always in for a good political debate. I love them. I'm very nice and caring, unless your George w bush, I don't likey, no offence to anybody who liked him.
I hate how fox news would do that. That will screw up the world. My Geography teacher talked about how fast rumors can get around the world. Me and Purple-in-Tampa thought of ten different ways rumors can get around. Especially twitter and MySpace. It's just ridiculous.
me168 -- A hearty Trail Mix WOOHOO welcome to you, When I was your age I got started talking politics with folks all over on my CB radio (we had no Internet in those days). Glad to see you getting an early start. Join the fray, and enjoy.
For those interested in listening to Helen Thomas on NPR Talk of the Nation, she's supposed to be on shortly (I think, their sked a little confusing), at 4:40p ET at this link.. http://bit.ly/gh45
rupert murdoch is an undesireable alien, who got a quickie citizenship through a corrupt republican White House, so that he could legally acquire tv stations in the US. Charge him and everyone around him, try them, convict them, strip him of his citizenship, force the sale of all his stock in newsCrap, set his fine at $20 Billion, and deport him .
Charges : bribery tobtain citizenship, wire fraud, mail fraud, false advertising, racketeering, incitement to riot, promotion of illegal activities, sabotage : conspiracy to name a senior American secret agent, human trafficking : Mann Act, conspiracy to injure US employees and lawmakers, conspiracy to assassinate the POTUS. What ever sticks, and a fair and balanced piece of it can, we (meaning, The United States of America) should use it to send him back to Australia destitute. Or better yet, lethally inject him on pay per view @ $100, the revenue to help pay off the mountain range of debt that he helped his republican pals dump on our grandchildren. I figure that 4 of 5 Dems would tune in for revenge, and 2/3 of independents for the novelty, and 100% of republicans for the ghoulish pleasure of watching someone else croak, for a total of 92 million US viewers or $9.2 B!LL!ON, plus 200 million foreign viewers for another $20 B!LL!ON. And like in the good old days in Britain (republicans are simply mad for the good old days and traditions of their Lily White homeland*
, we could dissmember the body and sell the parts at astronomical prices.
What is the sense of paying all those DoJ lawyers, if you don't give them something really worthwhile to do ?
* See the final deposition of the 19th Century William Burke, of that notorious criminal partnership Burke and Hare of Merrye Olde Scotland. It is said that some pieces were donated to the Edinburgh Museum and may still be seen there.
Welcome...when I was your age, my political opinions were shaped by not only by my own beliefs, family beliefs, but by how I was treated by the local political parties.
I had a school project in 6th grade social studies to go volunteer for any local candidate in the upcoming town elections. I spent a day at the local Democratic party and I was put to use, stuffing envelopes, answering phones, etc. When I went to the local Republican HQ, they saw a little black kid walk in the door and decided they didn't need me, even after I explained the assignment and said I would do whatever they asked. They asked me to leave...
When I reported what happened in class, everyone went to volunteer for the Democratic candidate and she won. I'd like to think we had a hand in her victory since we demanded that our parents don't vote for the Republican who wouldn't let me volunteer.
Remember that even young voices can move elections!
Is it typical to have the Florida governor show up at a press conference for a missing child or is this just an election year move by him? Smacks of opportunism to me...
BTW, did you get the email I sent you regarding your book?
they where twitter, MySpace,mail,tv,newspaper,E-mail,magizine,face-to-face,but we can't remember the rest.
i've got a tear in my eye. they found a small girl in a georga landfill,possibly the missing girl from florida. it ticks me off,in just 2 years we lost kaley,haley,and the new girl,it's not right.
"At a big DNC fundraiser last night, Pres. Obama made the case for “the bill you least like in Congress.” Support it now. Get on board. Pass the bill you least like in Congress. I mean, really. It seems Pres. Obama doesn’t understand how this majority thing works at all.
your lordship....
the language thing was my first thought also..... especially since I was getting set to use a rhyming word to let you know my sentiments concerning Joe Buck...
Sorry, bad link earlier. Here's the link to Helen Thomas today on NPR "Talk of the Nation" -- click the "Listen to the Story" on this page.. http://bit.ly/1mtldA
why would the gop compare obama to nixon. he is a icon of hope to kids. when i was in elementary school 95% of all kids on avrage wanted obama for president.
Alan Grayson is going to push some major buttons with this one. Do you have a loved one who has died due to lack of insurance or being under insured? He wants to "honor" them in the first for health care reform
168,
I think they compare Obama to Nixon in yet another attempt to spread fear!! Its also another attempt at DE-legitimizing Obama..While there's many things to be critical of the President for,being like Nixon surely isn't one of them..Its more of the same from the right wing crowd...
They think they found the missing girl dead in a Georgia Landfill. They followed a truck to the landfill from what's been reported so far today.
A dead white girl was found in the trash that the truck dumped.
Sadly I thought last night that the child was dead and in Georgia somewhere. With Jacksonville so close to the Georgia State line it just seemed that she was already in Georgia.
Now it turns out that they just had a tip or hunch and followed this truck.
Whether or not it is the missing girl its a tragedy and I feel for the parents of whomever the child belongs too.
I will have to remember them when I say my prayers tonight.
Out of here, its time to eat supper. Been cooking hamburgers and they are ready.
me, welcome to the trail. it's not every day we have some one capable of taking the words out of dark's mouth. congratulations. your presence will enrich the discussion.
We have an 11 year-old Trail-Mixer? Nothing wrong with that! Heck, there were times in the past here where some of the posts sounded like they were written by people younger than that! LOL! Welcome, me168!
"Is it typical to have the Florida governor show up at a press conference for a missing child or is this just an election year move by him?"
bear, charlie's always been like that. absolutely gifted at showing up in any photo op available. there's an old joke: who's that on the vatican balcony. oh that's charlie but don't know who the guy in the beanie next to him is.
I saw that. The Hitler boy may have been a devout Catholic after the type of his pervert pastor, but hitler the adult was a fanatic pagan. So was Mohandas K. Ghandi, but he was a fanatic pagan of a very different flavor. Both were also short vegetarians.
I have read 2 different accounts of the religion that originally nourished the young psychotic pig farmer, heinie himmler, of Bremen. The earlier one claimed that his family was Lutheran, while the later claimed that he was Catholic. I've also read that in 1900, Bremen was quite Lutheran, a little Calvinist, and not so much Catholic. himmler maintained that Germans were the most high;y developed people on earth, as one could clearly see in their treatment of animals. This from a guy who raised swine for slaughter before became a big shot in the 1000 year reich.
Thanks for the vid. I can remember watching the Rock when he was in the square circle. My nephew Mathew and I used to watch him all of t he time. The Rock has pleasantly surprised me with his range of talents....I think that he will be around for a long time...
The only thing that I have against those skits....is that some of the people that watch them, actually get their total political views from them, and other late night comics, and not doing their homework about those who they vote for..before they vote.....but it was funny.
Did you read (lurk) for a while before you started posting, and are familiar with us here at TM?
Glad you're riding the Trail, Kid. Keep your eyes peeled, your nose clean, and your ear to the ground. You'll have sore eyes and a case of crab grass ears.
We old geezers will be eager to hear the views of the generation that'll have to fix this ugly mess, and too bad for you, that it means you.
I wouldn't say it, if I didn't think you were up to the task.
I usually agree with almost everything that Purple has to say...Im an independent, have been all of my life...so im going to do what politicians do and extend my hand to you and try to get you to see things my way...or better said..the independent way.
I won't take up too much of your time now since we are all trying to get a feel for you....and you can call me Solar...or put em up.! Later.
Of course, between now and the time you have to rescue the world, we're all going to be pals. Well... almost all. The nice thing is that you get to be one of the Trail Hands.
i just rememberd the funniest joke I have ever made up
I don't want to become a republican becouse I dont want to be kickes in the privets by a donkey,and I don't want to be a democrat ecouse I don't want to be trampled by a elephant, i'll stick with the independents on the other side of the wall with no conflict,untill a republican recks are good mood.
There are lots of good Republicans around. We have some here on T. M. mqw, Edvb, Ping, to name a few..they are nice to talk to, and get an opposing view of things. When they and the D's actually talk to each other...they sound a lot like indies...when they blame each other for everything under the sun...they sound a lot like...........D's and R's..HA.!
Don't like faux news criminous behavior? Execute it.
Problem solved.
Sure, you can call me xgop. You can probably call mqw gop, um, unless ree, pong, truthUnreality, or maxtrue covet that moniker. Hmm, we could hold a shootout on the trail, and the last republican standing could be called the gop.
EdVB's a republican ?!? They let a sane guy like him stay in the party ? Maybe he's a Hawaiian republican, I hear you can get away with being pretty normal in Hawaii's republican party.
yea they're standing on moral high ground over there at
msnbc'' lets see hillary won the new hamshire primary
because she cried'' bill clinton is a racist''hillary got where she is because her husband cheated on her''they're pimping out chelsea '
talking about a news organization pushing a point of view and agenda ''
axlerod and company had no problem with it then as long as they were the direct beneficiaries'
they sound like a bunch of spoiled crybabies '
The balance of party identification in the American electorate now favors the Democratic Party by a decidedly larger margin than in either of the two previous presidential election cycles.
In 5,566 interviews with registered voters conducted by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press during the first two months of 2008, 36% identify themselves as Democrats, and just 27% as Republicans.
The share of voters who call themselves Republicans has declined by six points since 2004, and represents, on an annualized basis, the lowest percentage of self-identified Republican voters in 16 years of polling by the Center.
Travel Channel's Man Vs. Food show is in D.C. tonight.
He's going to Horace and Dickie's and Ben's Chil Bowl and then to Annapolis, MD to Chick and Ruth's Delly. Anybody familiar with these places?
Meanwhile the wife is home for the day, but her plan is to kick my ass out of bed at O dark thirty in the morning so I can drink coffee with her. Just before she leaves to catch a plane at 6:40.
So maybe I need to quit screwing around here and get to bed
But flatus then if I did that I would have to pick her up when she came back. Then I couldn't meet her at the door with drink in hand and supper on the table, dressed................
I will say welcome to the Kid.
me168 sounds way too much like a cheap password so if you don't mind I'll treat you much like I do His Lordship. ;-)
So if you have parents that worry about bad language........
Well maybe you should mention ole Jack to them.
"I'm even looking forward to getting pissed off again"
Chloe
You rebel you;-)
To be honest I'm getting so tired of the crap coming out of washington that my "pissed off" switch seems to be broken.
Or maybe I'm just to busy to care.
New Pogo. I've been very busy, but unless you stopped reading most papers during 2005 -2007, the people putting together reports for the twenty six Intel agencies were pretty steamed by the beating they were getting in the Press. More and more leaks appeared from within the Intel world and appeared in the NYT and WAPO. These leaks revealed some of what Bush was up to. Besides the well documented foment at the research level and even deputy level, Bush's appointees could not spin the 2007 NIE REPORT which was qhy Cheney was so pissed. If you think Bush and company liked the report, then indeed, you were asleep. Show me one interview in which top Bush officials praised the report. What they diverted attention to was the part about the logic of sanctions, but unfortunately that was lost in the media drone of Iran is not trying to make a bomb. Yep, this stellar report was immediately hailed as Intel's revenge on Bush by most media throwing cold water on any strike and even the push at the time by Europe for more sanctions. That was why if you read the papers most European leaders were dubious regarding the report. Even the IAEA was stunned. I bet you a six pack that my summary is correct more or less.
Now without any links let's play a new game. I call it guess the result in AFPAK. I start with Solar's bright observation that any major US advance on the Taliban in Afghanistan would push them into Pakistan and increase chaos. He got that right. It made sense therefore to get Pakistani forces on the offensive first.
But wait! Today the Pakistani government calls on NATO to seal the border, just like Bush asked Musharraf to do when he invaded Afghanistan using the Northern Alliance as a proxy. Now since this administration has not put forward the troops to seal the border nor has the DOD even gotten the 21,000 troops Obama did order sent, guess what will happen?
Is this not going to be a risk for US troops? And even stranger, the UN wants Afghanistan to hold an election in two weeks at the height of the new assault by Pakistan on the Taliban, the government having made deals with anti-American militants so their forces are caught in rear guard action. A coordinated strategy was the winning plan, but don't tell the administration that. I wouldn't want to be on their shit list...
I wonder if Afghanistan reveals as certain pattern of adminsitration strategy we see on some domestic issues. But don't worry, Maddow is declaring victory.....
If you see mainstream here, please point me to it. Maybe Flatus and Sturg (kinda). You and Joe at times. Craig. Ping Pong seems to have gone to the Dark Side...lol. Yo be honest DL, right now most here would prefer Mao to McCain. Not Xrepub though. He knows the Chinese communists for what they are, you know unrestricted warfare and torture stuff.....
What the TM disection by Pew failed to mention is that despite the number of those calling themselves Republicans declining, not so with those who call themselves conservatives. We saw the same thing after Carter with Democrats. Democrats are kidding themselves that many conservatives are not just on the sideline. And while many tout the numbers regarding public option, please explain why overall, most polls show the majority is against Obama's plan on heatlhcare? If you want a specific answer, then ask the rightly worded question.
I certainly want something to pass, but Democrats are deluding themselves in think America is now a center Left country. Independents are not thrilled with the preformance so far and could Congress have a lower rating? Pelosi and Reid will likely lose their districts.
Homegrown talent vs. The Best Team Money Can Buy (and money buys a good team). Should be a good one. No more baseball talk from me 'til it's over... Phils!
Glad you're ready, maxtrue. Gun those guys down in a hurry, so's I can get to bed. I hardly slept at all last night.
So, when a similar % of people self ID as conservative, but no longer as republican, does that mean that they no longer see republicans as conservative ? Maybe. Or, does it mean that socially undemanding, but personally conservative people like Sweetie and I are never going to be fooled by, or give our money or votes to the republican party or ANY of it's candidates, it's barkers, shills, or cat's paws, ever again ?
What you think 'conservative' means may or may not be what the people polled think it means, because 'conservative' has nothing approaching a concrete being. A word that means very different things to various people means nothing in particular to anyone. On the other mitt, 'republican' is a corporate label, like Enron or WorldCom, and it is the very same corporation to jack abramov as it is to larry craig.
Therefore, the folks leaving the republican party may call themselves conservative, but for them it may mean any one of personally, socially, fiscally, racially, literarily, sexually, sartorially, musically, economically, surgically, or transportationally. Or, any mix & match of those characteristics and even more. You don't know. Pew didn't ask, and they didn't tell. So, when the polls says, 'conservative' it actually means much kless than meets the eye.
Jerking wildly onto another topic, a pal of ours is in the hospital for cardiac fibrilation. She opened her sedative-heavy eyes last night to see a nurse about to stick a needle into her.
"Wazzat", she barked, and jerked her arm away.
The nurse smiled soothingly. "Your insulin."
"I don't take insulin."
"Oh, you're just groggy from the 'sleep aid', of course, you take insulin, Ms. Smith."
"I'm Mrs. Jones."
"Are you sure ?"
If our pal hadn't awakened in the very nick of time, she'd have been flatlined in 20 minutes. Her orphaned daughter would then have to jump through thousands of dollars worth of hoops to get her rightful compensation. She might even be denied access to the very records needed to show the worthiness of her complaint, until after the hearing determined whether it was a worthy complaint.
This is what makes tort reform so dangerous : it revictimizes patients families, while providing a strong disincentive for practioners to clean up their deadly bad habits.
The names have been changed to protect the innocent. I gotta sleepzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Bloggingham- Did you hear Lanier Davis on Imus yesterday? He was speaking about his political father and sports, his father advised to never root for the Yankees- "They are republicans- they have all the money and always win"
1844 The "Great Disappointment" began when this latest date, set for the return of Christ by religious leader William Miller, passed without event. Over 100,000 disillusioned followers returned to their former churches, or abandoned the Christian faith altogether.
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Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| October 21, 2009 10:15 AM
For Flatus...
The latest security updates on Windows operating systems include patches for Windows 7 which had not been officially released yet.
There were major flaws including Silver Light and it was reported that it was the most updates in a long time, I believe it was 33 or 34.
Anyway back to work. Just wanted to let you know about the security updates that were just released within the last two or three weeks.
Posted by: anon-paranoid
| October 21, 2009 10:18 AM
Craig.... great critique of what happens on cable news.... and that is the coolest tie yet.....
Fair.... I don't tend to read long winded posts.... except for Bethy's, which I adore.... but when someone like you posts one out of the blue, I figure it's because they have something to say and I read it.... your's from last night was most excellent...
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| October 21, 2009 10:26 AM
I forgot to say..... Pogo... I know you can't see the video.... but that tie is so cool you could hear it in Craig's suave and debonair voice..... ;)
I think perfect examples of what Craig was getting at about how one channel creates gossip, reports it as news, and then claims no one else is covering the story so as to get other channels to talk about it is the bullshit from the swiftboaters and the birthers.
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| October 21, 2009 10:37 AM
mornin'
Sorr, been chatting with myself at the book party....
Max, getting back to your diatribe. Ok, George Bush elected to retain George Tenet (Slam Dunk) as DCI (he had been appointed by Bill Clinton, and George Bush had the authority to replace him and elected not to-and he became instrumental in lying us into Iraq) - as DCI he oversaw intelligence in the US until John NegroPointe was appointed by GWB as Director of National intelligence in 2005 pursuant to the 9/11 Commission recommendations - he served until Feb, 2007 when GWB appointed John Michael McConnell to replace Negropointe. NegroPointe and McConnel would have been responsible for the 2007 NIE. His National Security Advisor was Condi Rice, who he appointed. His FBI director was Robert Mueller. The CIA and FBI are the 2 major intel gathering orgs in the gov't., along with the military. Again, the NIE was established in 1950, not in 2003 or 2007, which were the 2 most notable NIEs during the Bush adminsistration. You can't get that right, apparently because it doesn't fit your narrative. So what evidence do you have to the contrary that suggests that the 4 top intel officers under Bush wrote the NIE to restrain him? I want a link, not your opinion from the BBFF.
I'll repeaqt - I did not discuss the antitrust issue - although I do beleive that antitrust laws as they currently exist, whti the exemptions for insurance companies, allow the insurance industry to operate contrary to the letter and spirit of the Sherman and Clayton Acts, and the exemption for them should be done away with. There are other effective monoploies out there, and they, too, should not be allowed to exist unless it is in the interest of the security of the US. The insurance industry contributes little or nothing to that and should see its exemption go away.
You're full of crap on the ID issue - Obama was clear that he did not want the reforms to extend benefits to illegal aliens. The Senate and Hose don't share that position enough to put the safeguards you and Hannity would like to see in the bill. Tough - elect more republicans and you may get what you want.
But enough with you - if you want to provide info demonstrating where I'm wrong, do it - I'm not arguing with you in the fact free land you live in unless and until you do.
Renee, I caught Craig on KO - he had Mrs. P laughing her ass off. I have to admit that I was cutting up veggies for dinner, so I just listened and didn't hear what tie he had on. :)
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/its-a-book-party.html#comment-267229
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/its-a-book-party.html#comment-267233
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/its-a-book-party.html#comment-267236
Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com
| October 21, 2009 10:52 AM
Oh, And Fairweather, if you're around, I echo Renee's comments on your post from last night.
Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com
| October 21, 2009 10:57 AM
Speaking of Fox News - this could be fun - voting on the top 10 distortions.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/20/the-ten-most-egregious-fo_n_327140.html
Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com
| October 21, 2009 11:21 AM
No one can say the concept of irony has excaped Lamar Alexander.
http://www.rollcall.com/news/39733-1.html
Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com
| October 21, 2009 11:46 AM
This is the nuclear threat we face from Irn?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/21/AR2009102100636.html?hpid=topnews
Give me a break. There are more ifs and contingencies in this than there are in the typical commercial general liability policy, and for those of you who've never dealt with one, they are legion.
Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com
| October 21, 2009 11:54 AM
Irn = Iran.
Lunch.
Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com
| October 21, 2009 11:55 AM
Jeez, the GOP is getting desparate. They've moved from equating Obama with nazis and commies to...a Republican.
Sen. Lamar Alexander "has begun to see the Obama White House adopting an attitude similar to that of the Richard Nixon White House four decades ago, that "everybody is against us and we are going to get them."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091021/pl_nm/us_washington_summit_politics_enemies
So, based on the Senator's statement-based-on-nothing, Prez Obama now has an enemies list and will be attacking them. That is how Faux will spin it, of course.
While it is difficult to ignore the GOoPer media, like Valdemort, it only gives them power to speak their name.
Let us pajama-wearing bloggers go after Faux. They are playing the same game Ugo Chavez plays; you need a powerful opponent to appear more powerful. Now I've equated Faux with a socialist...this post has come full circle.
Posted by: blueINdallas
| October 21, 2009 12:35 PM
You don't suppose Team Obama is engaging with Faux because it's easier than talking about issues, do you? And, you don' t think Faux might not be trying to keep Obama mired in piffle not only because it elevates them, but because the GOP doesn't have any ideas to fix anything...and they are scared to death that the Dems MIGHT actually get something accomplished before they blow their seat lead in the mid-terms?
Posted by: blueINdallas
| October 21, 2009 12:45 PM
Morning all,
Fairweather, great post from last night :)
Craig, STUNNING tie!
Every media outlet, be it radio, tv or newspapers, has a political slant. There's no such thing as objectivity, especially in this age of all-encompassing ownership. If you know the slant, then watch what you want. The problem is the preface "fair and balanced" doesn't mean anything anymore.
Every day I read more and more really dangerous posts at messageboards and huffpo, dailykos, crooks, I don't even frequent right-ist blogs, so I can just imagine what they're like these days.
As an aside, Mr. Tylenol is having very invasive vascular surgery today, he's in surgery now actually, and I plan to go and spend the night in ICU with him. Again, thank GOD (and quite a few 1970s politicians) for socialized medicine!!!
Posted by: tylenol
| October 21, 2009 12:47 PM
Thought for the day :
" An idea is not responsible for the people who believe in it. "
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| October 21, 2009 12:48 PM
I actually do TRY to watch FOX at times. They are bearable once the morning snark has finished and before the wacko fringe takes over. Most of that 10 - 1 (west coast) does resemble news most of the time.
Anything after Shepard Smith is so bad and unbelievable as to be a complete waste of time and a hazard to sanity.
Posted by: Jamie
| October 21, 2009 1:04 PM
c'bob - wow
Posted by: blueINdallas
| October 21, 2009 1:08 PM
"Now I've equated Faux with a socialist...."
Blue.... ROTFLMAO!!!
Tylenol.... best wishes for both you and Mr. Tylenol....
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| October 21, 2009 1:13 PM
This health care reform debate really is getting interesting, isn't it?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/21/senate-dems-aim-to-strip_n_328362.html
"A House committee has voted to strip the health insurance industry of its exemption from federal antitrust laws as senators announced plans to take the same step."
All I can say is "'bout damn time."
Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com
| October 21, 2009 1:20 PM
... and more and more interesting.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/21/public-option-within-eigh_n_328561.html
"He [Raul Grijalva] says that backers of the public option are focusing on those persuadable Democrats rather than negotiating with members who will vote no.
"Why are we spending valuable time compromising on an issue when, at the end of the day, they're going to vote no?" he said. "
And Harry Reid's fate may hinge on what he does on this issue.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/21/harry-reid-poll-nevadans_n_328586.html
I mean, shit, even Nevadans want a public option and a leader witha pair of ...
Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com
| October 21, 2009 1:26 PM
First, thank all of you for your kind words about my post last PM. They are much appreciated.
Now then, a few words about my delusional senior senate critter, Lamar Alexander. He was a flunky during the Nixon years. He worked in Howard Baker's office, and later was a flunky for Bryce Harlow, a corporate lobbyist who is nebulously described as Nixon's "executive assistant."
To that extent, Alexander was on the scene in DC during the Nixon meltdown, and had opportunity to observe, at some remove, the fallout, the "enemies list", and other shenanigans. Nixon's "enemies list" was based on the paranoia he and his staff shared; where Alexander gets the idea that Obama calling out those who distort or flat out fabricate constitutes an "enemies list" is beyond me.
I swear, he was NOT this crazy during his terms as governor of Tennessee back in the late seventies-early eighties. Otherwise I could not have cut my conscience anywhere close to enough to vote for him--and I did.
Posted by: Fairweather Lewis
| October 21, 2009 1:30 PM
Hell, even Fox SPORTS is a total joke... I'll be goddamned if I got my NEWS from them!
Posted by: dark-lord-bloggingham.myopenid.com
| October 21, 2009 1:31 PM
Bernie, how can we miss you if you won't go away?
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/21/keriks-mug-shot-is-released/?hp
I wouldn't want to be the ex NY police commissioner in a NY jail, of course the Westchester jail would likely be a relative safe haven for him if there is such a thing within an hour's drive or so from NYC.
Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com
| October 21, 2009 1:43 PM
...everytime something important happens, there is this big smelly astroturf factory thrown in gear. How nice to have abilities to discern truth...
Posted by: crowman
| October 21, 2009 1:47 PM
Well, at least we know whaqt the Repug leadership thinks is important wrt antitrust - college football.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009/10/21/us/politics/AP-US-BCS-Championship-Congress.html
We should also call for the NFL, NHL,NBA ... to be investigated and considered for enforcement of antitrust laws while we're addressing the really important antitrust violations.
Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com
| October 21, 2009 1:47 PM
Hitler Finds Out Balloon Boy Was A Hoax
http://www.boingboing.net/2009/10/21/hitler-finds-out-bal.html
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| October 21, 2009 2:07 PM
"A private security guard at Newark Liberty International Airport was arrested on charges of threatening Barack Obama, the night before the president was to fly there."
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jN_1cMtpnhAb7DVK_y9M3w0dsuNQD9BFKHS03
Posted by: patd
| October 21, 2009 2:09 PM
Fairweather --Alexander fooled a lot of people into thinking he'd be moderate in the Senate....but he'll be whatever he thinks the GOP needs. He heard some stories about him diuring the campaign against Bob Clement that showed him to be a serious a-hole. Really rude and ugly to some Clement volunteers -- who were not hassling him at all.
Posted by: Patsi
| October 21, 2009 2:22 PM
I was actually watching FOX and they mentioned this complaint from Sen. Grassley (who is a total dork the majority of the time). If the problem exists as described then, I would agree with him.
http://www.rollcall.com/news/39730-1.html
You should not be required to give information about yourself nor state that you agree with a government policy in order to get the information you need.
Well I just went and checked and no you DO NOT have to give personal info to access areas of the site except for one and that is if you want to press the express your support button or are requesting information and emails.
http://www.hhs.gov/
IOW we have another FOX total distortion and actingas Repug mouthpiece and echo chamber.
Posted by: Jamie
| October 21, 2009 2:24 PM
Tylenol
Best wishes to Mr. T. I hope everything turns out well. Let us know how you are doing.
Posted by: Jamie
| October 21, 2009 2:30 PM
why are we pointing fingers at fox? why not name outloud he who is responsible, fox owner rupert murdoch, instead of mere lackies, the fox varlets and rapscallions like beck and company?
a tidbit re obama vs fox in wiki's write-up on murdoch:
"In early summer 2008, a "tentative truce" was brokered during a secret meeting between Barack Obama, Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes (President of the Fox News Channel) at the Waldorf-Astoria hotel in New York.[39][40] Obama had initially resisted Murdoch's propositions, despite senior News Corp executives having recruited the Kennedys to act as go-betweens.[40] Obama resented Fox News's portrayal of him "as suspicious, foreign, fearsome - just short of a terrorist," while Ailes said "it might not have been this way if Obama had more willingly come on the air instead of so often giving Fox the back of his hand."[40] A "tentative truce" was agreed upon; Obama would be portrayed more favourably, while Obama would be more willing to appear on Fox.[39]"
Posted by: patd
| October 21, 2009 2:42 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/more-white-house-fox-hunt.html#comment-267231
"The latest security updates on Windows operating systems include patches for Windows 7 which had not been officially released yet."
A/P
Security updates are released as new threats emerge. Would you want it some other way?
FWIW, Win 7 automatically downloads and applies critical and security updates. If a user does not want this preventive behavior, it can be turned-off.
As I've said before, I was an early adopter of Windows back in the middle-80s when it came on 5-1/4" floppy disks. Over the years, I have never had a virus or any other type of malware discovered on any of my computers or those that I supported.
Achieving that feat wasn't difficult; it simply required taking common sense steps by applying available security patches, and through use of virus protection programs from reputable developers. There is no need for an individual to spend a single extra penny in achieving the level of protection that I've achieved.
For those who prefer other operating systems, fine. I don't knock those systems as each fits user needs.
Posted by: Flatus
| October 21, 2009 2:45 PM
Pogo, XR,
From last thread.
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/its-a-book-party.html#comment-267239
Posted by: SolarCrete
| October 21, 2009 2:48 PM
varlet
n 1: a deceitful and unreliable scoundrel [syn: rogue, knave, rascal, rapscallion, scalawag, scallywag]
http://dictionary.die.net/varlet
rapscallion
rogue: a deceitful and unreliable scoundrel
Posted by: patd
| October 21, 2009 2:48 PM
beck and company = varlets and rapscallions
all toadies of mr. murdoch
Posted by: patd
| October 21, 2009 2:50 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/more-white-house-fox-hunt.html#comment-267266
I would have thought Rev Moon would have been there.
Posted by: Flatus
| October 21, 2009 2:52 PM
great words patd ---I hope I get a chance to use them soon
oh right any time I'm talking about a Republican.
When I saw the first post about Fox hunting at the Whitehouse
I thought it was a sex scandal.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker
| October 21, 2009 2:53 PM
I do not understand these people at all.
http://firedoglake.com/2009/10/21/matt-lewis-wants-to-ride-sarah-palin/
Why limit the choices to has beens? Shouldn't they be looking for fresh faces and new approaches?
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker
| October 21, 2009 2:57 PM
flatus, he probably had a wedding or two thousand to attend.
Posted by: patd
| October 21, 2009 3:00 PM
Hi, I'm new here. I'm Purple-in-Tampa's grandson. I'm only 11 but I have permission to post on the trail mix from Craig. I'm always in for a good political debate. I love them. I'm very nice and caring, unless your George w bush, I don't likey, no offence to anybody who liked him.
I hate how fox news would do that. That will screw up the world. My Geography teacher talked about how fast rumors can get around the world. Me and Purple-in-Tampa thought of ten different ways rumors can get around. Especially twitter and MySpace. It's just ridiculous.
Posted by: me168
| October 21, 2009 3:54 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/more-white-house-fox-hunt.html#comment-267275
me168 -- A hearty Trail Mix WOOHOO welcome to you, When I was your age I got started talking politics with folks all over on my CB radio (we had no Internet in those days). Glad to see you getting an early start. Join the fray, and enjoy.
Posted by: craigcrawford.myopenid.com
| October 21, 2009 4:12 PM
Welcome me168. We can use some young blood and perspective around here. What were the ten rumor sources. Let's see if we can't come up with others.
Lots of expertise here so if you get into a bind at school just ask for info and history.
Posted by: Jamie
| October 21, 2009 4:16 PM
For those interested in listening to Helen Thomas on NPR Talk of the Nation, she's supposed to be on shortly (I think, their sked a little confusing), at 4:40p ET at this link.. http://bit.ly/gh45
on the radio, schedule varies around the country
Posted by: craigcrawford.myopenid.com
| October 21, 2009 4:20 PM
rupert murdoch is an undesireable alien, who got a quickie citizenship through a corrupt republican White House, so that he could legally acquire tv stations in the US. Charge him and everyone around him, try them, convict them, strip him of his citizenship, force the sale of all his stock in newsCrap, set his fine at $20 Billion, and deport him .
Charges : bribery tobtain citizenship, wire fraud, mail fraud, false advertising, racketeering, incitement to riot, promotion of illegal activities, sabotage : conspiracy to name a senior American secret agent, human trafficking : Mann Act, conspiracy to injure US employees and lawmakers, conspiracy to assassinate the POTUS. What ever sticks, and a fair and balanced piece of it can, we (meaning, The United States of America) should use it to send him back to Australia destitute. Or better yet, lethally inject him on pay per view @ $100, the revenue to help pay off the mountain range of debt that he helped his republican pals dump on our grandchildren. I figure that 4 of 5 Dems would tune in for revenge, and 2/3 of independents for the novelty, and 100% of republicans for the ghoulish pleasure of watching someone else croak, for a total of 92 million US viewers or $9.2 B!LL!ON, plus 200 million foreign viewers for another $20 B!LL!ON. And like in the good old days in Britain (republicans are simply mad for the good old days and traditions of their Lily White homeland*
, we could dissmember the body and sell the parts at astronomical prices.
What is the sense of paying all those DoJ lawyers, if you don't give them something really worthwhile to do ?
* See the final deposition of the 19th Century William Burke, of that notorious criminal partnership Burke and Hare of Merrye Olde Scotland. It is said that some pieces were donated to the Edinburgh Museum and may still be seen there.
Posted by: xrepublican
| October 21, 2009 4:21 PM
welcome to the blog me168.....
it's easy to see that you get some of your smarts from your grandpa....
as Craig said.... join in and enjoy the blog.
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| October 21, 2009 4:21 PM
Everyone please welcome our newest (and perhaps youngest) Trail Mixer -- me168..
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/more-white-house-fox-hunt.html#comment-267275
Posted by: craigcrawford.myopenid.com
| October 21, 2009 4:23 PM
me168,
Welcome...when I was your age, my political opinions were shaped by not only by my own beliefs, family beliefs, but by how I was treated by the local political parties.
I had a school project in 6th grade social studies to go volunteer for any local candidate in the upcoming town elections. I spent a day at the local Democratic party and I was put to use, stuffing envelopes, answering phones, etc. When I went to the local Republican HQ, they saw a little black kid walk in the door and decided they didn't need me, even after I explained the assignment and said I would do whatever they asked. They asked me to leave...
When I reported what happened in class, everyone went to volunteer for the Democratic candidate and she won. I'd like to think we had a hand in her victory since we demanded that our parents don't vote for the Republican who wouldn't let me volunteer.
Remember that even young voices can move elections!
Posted by: Bear
| October 21, 2009 4:23 PM
Craig,
Is it typical to have the Florida governor show up at a press conference for a missing child or is this just an election year move by him? Smacks of opportunism to me...
BTW, did you get the email I sent you regarding your book?
Posted by: Bear
| October 21, 2009 4:24 PM
Jamie,
they where twitter, MySpace,mail,tv,newspaper,E-mail,magizine,face-to-face,but we can't remember the rest.
i've got a tear in my eye. they found a small girl in a georga landfill,possibly the missing girl from florida. it ticks me off,in just 2 years we lost kaley,haley,and the new girl,it's not right.
Posted by: me168
| October 21, 2009 4:28 PM
yes, got your email Bear. gonna sit down with Helen in a week or so and get those signed.
off to another signing. play nice all.
Posted by: craigcrawford.myopenid.com
| October 21, 2009 4:30 PM
...suppose I'd better start watching my language.
Posted by: dark-lord-bloggingham.myopenid.com
| October 21, 2009 4:31 PM
good idea, Lord
Posted by: craigcrawford.myopenid.com
| October 21, 2009 4:31 PM
http://www.taylormarsh.com/2009/10/21/obama-lecturer-in-chief/
"Obama, Lecturer in Chief"
"At a big DNC fundraiser last night, Pres. Obama made the case for “the bill you least like in Congress.” Support it now. Get on board. Pass the bill you least like in Congress. I mean, really. It seems Pres. Obama doesn’t understand how this majority thing works at all.
Posted by: tonyb39
| October 21, 2009 4:33 PM
You win this time, Crawford! Well done.
Posted by: dark-lord-bloggingham.myopenid.com
| October 21, 2009 4:36 PM
Hey 168,
Welcome...
Posted by: tonyb39
| October 21, 2009 4:36 PM
Bear,
I had the oppertuniy of meating florda repersenitive kathy castor one day,my pictures are still on her site if you want to see
http://castor.house.gov/Photos/#id=94160&num=5
Posted by: me168
| October 21, 2009 4:39 PM
Hi 168--welcome to TM. :)
Posted by: Fairweather Lewis
| October 21, 2009 4:40 PM
168,
Nice to see you here. If you need any help with your Spanish in school, im available; cheap.!
Posted by: SolarCrete
| October 21, 2009 4:41 PM
your lordship....
the language thing was my first thought also..... especially since I was getting set to use a rhyming word to let you know my sentiments concerning Joe Buck...
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| October 21, 2009 4:45 PM
Sorry, bad link earlier. Here's the link to Helen Thomas today on NPR "Talk of the Nation" -- click the "Listen to the Story" on this page.. http://bit.ly/1mtldA
Posted by: craigcrawford.myopenid.com
| October 21, 2009 4:48 PM
why would the gop compare obama to nixon. he is a icon of hope to kids. when i was in elementary school 95% of all kids on avrage wanted obama for president.
Posted by: me168
| October 21, 2009 4:56 PM
Welcome me168 -- and Bear -- GREAT POST!
Posted by: Patsi
| October 21, 2009 5:00 PM
Alan Grayson is going to push some major buttons with this one. Do you have a loved one who has died due to lack of insurance or being under insured? He wants to "honor" them in the first for health care reform
http://namesofthedead.com/
Posted by: Jamie
| October 21, 2009 5:01 PM
168,
I think they compare Obama to Nixon in yet another attempt to spread fear!! Its also another attempt at DE-legitimizing Obama..While there's many things to be critical of the President for,being like Nixon surely isn't one of them..Its more of the same from the right wing crowd...
Posted by: tonyb39
| October 21, 2009 5:05 PM
hi is jamie,
It's not a topic to realy jump into,it's probably to much to do.
Posted by: me168
| October 21, 2009 5:07 PM
tonyb,i know the anwser,
THERE THE GOP!!!!!!!!!!! That's all it is. GOP'S CURSE OF WE DID NOT WIN THE ELECTION AND WHERE OUT FOR FRESH DONKYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: me168
| October 21, 2009 5:11 PM
They think they found the missing girl dead in a Georgia Landfill. They followed a truck to the landfill from what's been reported so far today.
A dead white girl was found in the trash that the truck dumped.
Sadly I thought last night that the child was dead and in Georgia somewhere. With Jacksonville so close to the Georgia State line it just seemed that she was already in Georgia.
Now it turns out that they just had a tip or hunch and followed this truck.
Whether or not it is the missing girl its a tragedy and I feel for the parents of whomever the child belongs too.
I will have to remember them when I say my prayers tonight.
Out of here, its time to eat supper. Been cooking hamburgers and they are ready.
Posted by: anon-paranoid
| October 21, 2009 5:11 PM
me, welcome to the trail. it's not every day we have some one capable of taking the words out of dark's mouth. congratulations. your presence will enrich the discussion.
Posted by: patd
| October 21, 2009 5:18 PM
168,
I agree.I like the way you think!! I'm across the state from you in New Smyrna Beach...
Posted by: tonyb39
| October 21, 2009 5:19 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/more-white-house-fox-hunt.html#comment-267303
Ha Pat,
You so Funny!
Posted by: tonyb39
| October 21, 2009 5:20 PM
We have an 11 year-old Trail-Mixer? Nothing wrong with that! Heck, there were times in the past here where some of the posts sounded like they were written by people younger than that! LOL! Welcome, me168!
Posted by: Corey
| October 21, 2009 5:20 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/more-white-house-fox-hunt.html#comment-267306
Corey,
True! Oh man, I'm still wishing I could have been at that Kylie concert you went too.Seen her in Melbourne,Australia 3 years ago,great show..
Posted by: tonyb39
| October 21, 2009 5:24 PM
"Is it typical to have the Florida governor show up at a press conference for a missing child or is this just an election year move by him?"
bear, charlie's always been like that. absolutely gifted at showing up in any photo op available. there's an old joke: who's that on the vatican balcony. oh that's charlie but don't know who the guy in the beanie next to him is.
Posted by: patd
| October 21, 2009 5:25 PM
LOL PAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: me168
| October 21, 2009 5:29 PM
"... thank GOD (and quite a few 1970s politicians) for socialized medicine!!!"
ty, for yours and mr. ty's sake, i thank god too. hope all went well.
Posted by: patd
| October 21, 2009 5:29 PM
saw the funnyest snl clip,on the rock obama. you make him and he flexis out of his shirt. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: me168
| October 21, 2009 5:36 PM
renee and dark, but a double entendre now and then could spice things up if you're up to it.
Posted by: patd
| October 21, 2009 5:39 PM
http://www.hulu.com/watch/102972/saturday-night-live-the-rock-obama
this is ultra funny. LOL!
Posted by: me168
| October 21, 2009 5:50 PM
me168 -
You have to be this tall :
To ride, this ride , ................ enjoy the trip.
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| October 21, 2009 5:57 PM
thanks c-bob
Posted by: me168
| October 21, 2009 6:04 PM
Chair Dolly
http://the-shin-bone-star.blogspot.com/
-----------
I've been making tools.
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| October 21, 2009 6:05 PM
1M6E8
Welcome! I was never eleven so having you here will be eye-opening for me!
Posted by: Flatus
| October 21, 2009 6:09 PM
Thanks Solar,
I saw that. The Hitler boy may have been a devout Catholic after the type of his pervert pastor, but hitler the adult was a fanatic pagan. So was Mohandas K. Ghandi, but he was a fanatic pagan of a very different flavor. Both were also short vegetarians.
I have read 2 different accounts of the religion that originally nourished the young psychotic pig farmer, heinie himmler, of Bremen. The earlier one claimed that his family was Lutheran, while the later claimed that he was Catholic. I've also read that in 1900, Bremen was quite Lutheran, a little Calvinist, and not so much Catholic. himmler maintained that Germans were the most high;y developed people on earth, as one could clearly see in their treatment of animals. This from a guy who raised swine for slaughter before became a big shot in the 1000 year reich.
Posted by: xrepublican
| October 21, 2009 6:09 PM
lol,thanks flatus
Posted by: me168
| October 21, 2009 6:14 PM
Me168......how ya doin' ova dare?
in 50 years you'll be as old as I am now. won't that be fun?
Posted by: sturgeone
| October 21, 2009 6:17 PM
I completley forgot,
When I was doing my spelling words i had the word regulations and all I could think is "man,there's somthing the GOP dosen't follow."
Posted by: me168
| October 21, 2009 6:18 PM
me.....it's also something which republicans try to eradicate where they can............
Posted by: sturgeone
| October 21, 2009 6:19 PM
Me168
Thanks for the vid. I can remember watching the Rock when he was in the square circle. My nephew Mathew and I used to watch him all of t he time. The Rock has pleasantly surprised me with his range of talents....I think that he will be around for a long time...
The only thing that I have against those skits....is that some of the people that watch them, actually get their total political views from them, and other late night comics, and not doing their homework about those who they vote for..before they vote.....but it was funny.
Did you read (lurk) for a while before you started posting, and are familiar with us here at TM?
Posted by: SolarCrete
| October 21, 2009 6:20 PM
Mr. 168,
Glad you're riding the Trail, Kid. Keep your eyes peeled, your nose clean, and your ear to the ground. You'll have sore eyes and a case of crab grass ears.
We old geezers will be eager to hear the views of the generation that'll have to fix this ugly mess, and too bad for you, that it means you.
I wouldn't say it, if I didn't think you were up to the task.
You're going to be our hero someday.
Posted by: xrepublican
| October 21, 2009 6:24 PM
LOL sturgeone,
SlarCrete, i posted on this becouse i knew about it already,and my grandpa (Purple-in-Tampa) goes on here so i had a basic understanding allready.
Posted by: me168
| October 21, 2009 6:34 PM
i just saw msnbc having a poll that says that 73% of the GOP thinks obama dosen't love america or there not shure. DUA, it's the freaking GOP!!!!!!!!
Posted by: me168
| October 21, 2009 6:37 PM
"You're going to be our hero someday."
Yep, xrep -- it's always good to see a kid getting revved up for the battle!
Posted by: Patsi
| October 21, 2009 6:37 PM
168,
I usually agree with almost everything that Purple has to say...Im an independent, have been all of my life...so im going to do what politicians do and extend my hand to you and try to get you to see things my way...or better said..the independent way.
I won't take up too much of your time now since we are all trying to get a feel for you....and you can call me Solar...or put em up.! Later.
Posted by: SolarCrete
| October 21, 2009 6:42 PM
Of course, between now and the time you have to rescue the world, we're all going to be pals. Well... almost all. The nice thing is that you get to be one of the Trail Hands.
Posted by: xrepublican
| October 21, 2009 6:44 PM
http://the-shin-bone-star.blogspot.com/
Are those Maria's training wheels?
Posted by: Flatus
| October 21, 2009 6:44 PM
Solar, independent ? Doncha mean confused ?
Solar and I like to razz each other.
I'm so used to it that I wouldn't wat to be razzed by anyone else.<<<SUBTLE HINT<<<
Posted by: xrepublican
| October 21, 2009 6:52 PM
don't' like fox news ? don't watch it. problem solved
Posted by: mqw
| October 21, 2009 7:01 PM
what is funny is that there won't be as many republicans left anymore. it will be mostly independents when I get in.
Posted by: me168
| October 21, 2009 7:03 PM
awwww..........comon xgop...if i can call you that, i can get an attention grabber and "razzle" everyone.
Posted by: me168
| October 21, 2009 7:08 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/more-white-house-fox-hunt.html#comment-267332
mqw has the quite simple solution.
me168.......Standard TM advice # 1: Watch your topknot.
Posted by: sturgeone
| October 21, 2009 7:11 PM
i just rememberd the funniest joke I have ever made up
I don't want to become a republican becouse I dont want to be kickes in the privets by a donkey,and I don't want to be a democrat ecouse I don't want to be trampled by a elephant, i'll stick with the independents on the other side of the wall with no conflict,untill a republican recks are good mood.
Posted by: me168
| October 21, 2009 7:15 PM
168, funny,
There are lots of good Republicans around. We have some here on T. M. mqw, Edvb, Ping, to name a few..they are nice to talk to, and get an opposing view of things. When they and the D's actually talk to each other...they sound a lot like indies...when they blame each other for everything under the sun...they sound a lot like...........D's and R's..HA.!
Posted by: SolarCrete
| October 21, 2009 7:19 PM
i like a good understanding of republicans,but some on the senat floor are just dispicibal
YOU LIE!!
whats that all about. and then I tryed to get onto his site and it wouldent let me on at all.
Posted by: me168
| October 21, 2009 7:22 PM
well...i'm gonna get off here,i smell corn dogs. Peace and see you tomarow
Posted by: me168
| October 21, 2009 7:25 PM
Don't like faux news criminous behavior? Execute it.
Problem solved.
Sure, you can call me xgop. You can probably call mqw gop, um, unless ree, pong, truthUnreality, or maxtrue covet that moniker. Hmm, we could hold a shootout on the trail, and the last republican standing could be called the gop.
Posted by: xrepublican
| October 21, 2009 7:26 PM
Time to serve a late dinner to Sweetie.
'bye all.
Posted by: xrepublican
| October 21, 2009 7:27 PM
The Ukelele Club de Paris Etampes
le piquenique de ours en peluche
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wThpb9jAy2c
Posted by: sturgeone
| October 21, 2009 7:28 PM
oops: le piquenique de l'ours en peluche
Posted by: sturgeone
| October 21, 2009 7:29 PM
EdVB's a republican ?!? They let a sane guy like him stay in the party ? Maybe he's a Hawaiian republican, I hear you can get away with being pretty normal in Hawaii's republican party.
Seeya.
Posted by: xrepublican
| October 21, 2009 7:32 PM
yea they're standing on moral high ground over there at
msnbc'' lets see hillary won the new hamshire primary
because she cried'' bill clinton is a racist''hillary got where she is because her husband cheated on her''they're pimping out chelsea '
talking about a news organization pushing a point of view and agenda ''
axlerod and company had no problem with it then as long as they were the direct beneficiaries'
they sound like a bunch of spoiled crybabies '
Posted by: mqw
| October 21, 2009 8:13 PM
The balance of party identification in the American electorate now favors the Democratic Party by a decidedly larger margin than in either of the two previous presidential election cycles.
In 5,566 interviews with registered voters conducted by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press during the first two months of 2008, 36% identify themselves as Democrats, and just 27% as Republicans.
The share of voters who call themselves Republicans has declined by six points since 2004, and represents, on an annualized basis, the lowest percentage of self-identified Republican voters in 16 years of polling by the Center.
http://pewresearch.org/pubs/773/fewer-voters-identify-as-republicans
Posted by: sturgeone
| October 21, 2009 8:27 PM
Tomorrow will be a better day:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyHWvpBchu0&feature=rec-HM-fresh+div
Posted by: sturgeone
| October 21, 2009 8:33 PM
Travel Channel's Man Vs. Food show is in D.C. tonight.
He's going to Horace and Dickie's and Ben's Chil Bowl and then to Annapolis, MD to Chick and Ruth's Delly. Anybody familiar with these places?
Posted by: Corey
| October 21, 2009 8:35 PM
one party ruling everything'' sounds like chairman mao
is someones favorite philosopher too
Posted by: mqw
| October 21, 2009 8:43 PM
if it were one party rule it would split into 2 factions which would go at each other's throats.......because humans is nuts.
Posted by: sturgeone
| October 21, 2009 8:48 PM
mqw
What party?
the Democrats are in power. That isn't a party
You must be thinking of the Republicans.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| October 21, 2009 8:54 PM
Sturge
I don't belong to an organised party, I'm a Democrat.
OK , how do I get get this rope untangled.
Posted by: whskyjack
| October 21, 2009 9:03 PM
Am I the only one disturbed by the new dynamic here?
Posted by: dark-lord-bloggingham.myopenid.com
| October 21, 2009 9:27 PM
Yourlordship
Don't worry this too shall pass
Posted by: whskyjack
| October 21, 2009 9:30 PM
Then we can go back to getting pissed off and pissed on by each other.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| October 21, 2009 9:32 PM
"Then we can go back to getting pissed off and pissed on by each other"
I agree with both of you Jack and Lord. Disturbed by the new dynamic, and this too shall pass. I'm even looking forward to getting pissed off again.
Posted by: chloe
| October 21, 2009 9:35 PM
I'm certainly glad that some, perhaps many, members of Congress are on board with the Medicare Part E: Medicare for All!
Posted by: eprof2.myopenid.com
| October 21, 2009 9:37 PM
Meanwhile the wife is home for the day, but her plan is to kick my ass out of bed at O dark thirty in the morning so I can drink coffee with her. Just before she leaves to catch a plane at 6:40.
So maybe I need to quit screwing around here and get to bed
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| October 21, 2009 9:38 PM
Prof
I like it!
Medicare Part E, sign me up.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| October 21, 2009 9:41 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/more-white-house-fox-hunt.html#comment-267360
Damn, Jack, drive her to the airport and have a sunrise breakfast there with each other.
Posted by: Flatus
| October 21, 2009 9:43 PM
But flatus then if I did that I would have to pick her up when she came back. Then I couldn't meet her at the door with drink in hand and supper on the table, dressed................
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| October 21, 2009 9:47 PM
Touché!
Posted by: Flatus
| October 21, 2009 9:50 PM
I will say welcome to the Kid.
me168 sounds way too much like a cheap password so if you don't mind I'll treat you much like I do His Lordship. ;-)
So if you have parents that worry about bad language........
Well maybe you should mention ole Jack to them.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| October 21, 2009 9:59 PM
Hey Kid
If you are as smart as I believe you are you will read the above post to say.
"maybe you shouldn't mention ole Jack to them"
Posted by: whskyjack
| October 21, 2009 10:02 PM
"I'm even looking forward to getting pissed off again"
Chloe
You rebel you;-)
To be honest I'm getting so tired of the crap coming out of washington that my "pissed off" switch seems to be broken.
Or maybe I'm just to busy to care.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| October 21, 2009 10:13 PM
New Pogo. I've been very busy, but unless you stopped reading most papers during 2005 -2007, the people putting together reports for the twenty six Intel agencies were pretty steamed by the beating they were getting in the Press. More and more leaks appeared from within the Intel world and appeared in the NYT and WAPO. These leaks revealed some of what Bush was up to. Besides the well documented foment at the research level and even deputy level, Bush's appointees could not spin the 2007 NIE REPORT which was qhy Cheney was so pissed. If you think Bush and company liked the report, then indeed, you were asleep. Show me one interview in which top Bush officials praised the report. What they diverted attention to was the part about the logic of sanctions, but unfortunately that was lost in the media drone of Iran is not trying to make a bomb. Yep, this stellar report was immediately hailed as Intel's revenge on Bush by most media throwing cold water on any strike and even the push at the time by Europe for more sanctions. That was why if you read the papers most European leaders were dubious regarding the report. Even the IAEA was stunned. I bet you a six pack that my summary is correct more or less.
Now without any links let's play a new game. I call it guess the result in AFPAK. I start with Solar's bright observation that any major US advance on the Taliban in Afghanistan would push them into Pakistan and increase chaos. He got that right. It made sense therefore to get Pakistani forces on the offensive first.
But wait! Today the Pakistani government calls on NATO to seal the border, just like Bush asked Musharraf to do when he invaded Afghanistan using the Northern Alliance as a proxy. Now since this administration has not put forward the troops to seal the border nor has the DOD even gotten the 21,000 troops Obama did order sent, guess what will happen?
Is this not going to be a risk for US troops? And even stranger, the UN wants Afghanistan to hold an election in two weeks at the height of the new assault by Pakistan on the Taliban, the government having made deals with anti-American militants so their forces are caught in rear guard action. A coordinated strategy was the winning plan, but don't tell the administration that. I wouldn't want to be on their shit list...
I wonder if Afghanistan reveals as certain pattern of adminsitration strategy we see on some domestic issues. But don't worry, Maddow is declaring victory.....
For which war. I'm not so sure....
Posted by: maxtrue
| October 21, 2009 10:18 PM
OK, just making sure. I don't want to lose touch with mainstream America; that would be tragic... FOR AMERICA.
Posted by: dark-lord-bloggingham.myopenid.com
| October 21, 2009 10:19 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/more-white-house-fox-hunt.html#comment-267340
I'm ready for ya XRepub.
Posted by: maxtrue
| October 21, 2009 10:21 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/more-white-house-fox-hunt.html#comment-267370
If you see mainstream here, please point me to it. Maybe Flatus and Sturg (kinda). You and Joe at times. Craig. Ping Pong seems to have gone to the Dark Side...lol. Yo be honest DL, right now most here would prefer Mao to McCain. Not Xrepub though. He knows the Chinese communists for what they are, you know unrestricted warfare and torture stuff.....
What the TM disection by Pew failed to mention is that despite the number of those calling themselves Republicans declining, not so with those who call themselves conservatives. We saw the same thing after Carter with Democrats. Democrats are kidding themselves that many conservatives are not just on the sideline. And while many tout the numbers regarding public option, please explain why overall, most polls show the majority is against Obama's plan on heatlhcare? If you want a specific answer, then ask the rightly worded question.
I certainly want something to pass, but Democrats are deluding themselves in think America is now a center Left country. Independents are not thrilled with the preformance so far and could Congress have a lower rating? Pelosi and Reid will likely lose their districts.
Posted by: maxtrue
| October 21, 2009 10:33 PM
Your Lordship
A salute from Goldman Sacs, just for you
;-0
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/bagley1020.JPG
to bed with me
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| October 21, 2009 10:39 PM
How 'bout them Phils? Finally they'll get some real competition.
Posted by: dark-lord-bloggingham.myopenid.com
| October 21, 2009 11:58 PM
Homegrown talent vs. The Best Team Money Can Buy (and money buys a good team). Should be a good one. No more baseball talk from me 'til it's over... Phils!
Posted by: dark-lord-bloggingham.myopenid.com
| October 22, 2009 12:00 AM
Glad you're ready, maxtrue. Gun those guys down in a hurry, so's I can get to bed. I hardly slept at all last night.
So, when a similar % of people self ID as conservative, but no longer as republican, does that mean that they no longer see republicans as conservative ? Maybe. Or, does it mean that socially undemanding, but personally conservative people like Sweetie and I are never going to be fooled by, or give our money or votes to the republican party or ANY of it's candidates, it's barkers, shills, or cat's paws, ever again ?
What you think 'conservative' means may or may not be what the people polled think it means, because 'conservative' has nothing approaching a concrete being. A word that means very different things to various people means nothing in particular to anyone. On the other mitt, 'republican' is a corporate label, like Enron or WorldCom, and it is the very same corporation to jack abramov as it is to larry craig.
Therefore, the folks leaving the republican party may call themselves conservative, but for them it may mean any one of personally, socially, fiscally, racially, literarily, sexually, sartorially, musically, economically, surgically, or transportationally. Or, any mix & match of those characteristics and even more. You don't know. Pew didn't ask, and they didn't tell. So, when the polls says, 'conservative' it actually means much kless than meets the eye.
Jerking wildly onto another topic, a pal of ours is in the hospital for cardiac fibrilation. She opened her sedative-heavy eyes last night to see a nurse about to stick a needle into her.
"Wazzat", she barked, and jerked her arm away.
The nurse smiled soothingly. "Your insulin."
"I don't take insulin."
"Oh, you're just groggy from the 'sleep aid', of course, you take insulin, Ms. Smith."
"I'm Mrs. Jones."
"Are you sure ?"
If our pal hadn't awakened in the very nick of time, she'd have been flatlined in 20 minutes. Her orphaned daughter would then have to jump through thousands of dollars worth of hoops to get her rightful compensation. She might even be denied access to the very records needed to show the worthiness of her complaint, until after the hearing determined whether it was a worthy complaint.
This is what makes tort reform so dangerous : it revictimizes patients families, while providing a strong disincentive for practioners to clean up their deadly bad habits.
The names have been changed to protect the innocent. I gotta sleepzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Posted by: xrepublican
| October 22, 2009 12:04 AM
I'm a lifelong Democrat but am frankly surprised that very many people would identify with either party.
Posted by: Oregon Democrat
| October 22, 2009 12:16 AM
You've about summed it up for me Oregon!
Posted by: oldseahag
| October 22, 2009 5:35 AM
Bloggingham- Did you hear Lanier Davis on Imus yesterday? He was speaking about his political father and sports, his father advised to never root for the Yankees- "They are republicans- they have all the money and always win"
Posted by: oldseahag
| October 22, 2009 5:39 AM
1844 The "Great Disappointment" began when this latest date, set for the return of Christ by religious leader William Miller, passed without event. Over 100,000 disillusioned followers returned to their former churches, or abandoned the Christian faith altogether.
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| October 22, 2009 6:54 AM
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