Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

woo hoo!

Hey Sea! Good morning.

I despise Dick Cheney so much I almost cannot type about him.

Cheney bullying Obama to do what his former boss never would do seems to ring quite hollow.

"ring quite hollow". a nice way to say: "may he be pregnant with toothpicks".

Ya know
If I was the white house my nresponse would be a
LOL and point out it was Cheney's advice that got us into this nation building mess.
"So excuse us Mr Cheny, thanks but no thanks we will look for advice else where.
Common except for cable newses and the lunatic right Cheney has zero creds.

Jack

"ring quite hollow"

due to overpopulation of bats in his belfry

Kinky and Lubbock......good combination......

Join Kinky and Kinky Friedman Cigars at an upcoming Cigar Happy Hour!
October 29 - 6:00 p.m.
Heroes & Legacies
Lubbock, TX

1920 Timothy Leary Harvard prof, LSD taker

Legend of a Mind ~ Moody Blues

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldSFuEOA9wc

patsi, maybe if we ignore him, he'll go away. a good shunning might do the trick.

sea, have any old fashioned type spells handy to cast him into the dustbin of demented histrionics?

here are two that may work:

"nyah, nyah, nyah"

and

http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m47/ellroon/justwilliam_3.jpg

"The murder rate in Ciudad Juarez on the Mexico-US border has reached an all-time high amid battles between rival drug cartels, Mexican officials say"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8319835.stm

kinky at barnes n noble booksigning tonight

http://www.kinkyfriedman.com/events/

his book on celebrity's pets

http://books.simonandschuster.com/Kinky's-Celebrity-Pet-Files/Kinky-Friedman/9781416592785

"1844 The "Great Disappointment" began when this latest date, set for the return of Christ by religious leader William Miller, passed without event. Over 100,000 disillusioned followers returned to their former churches, or abandoned the Christian faith altogether."

CBob posted the above as the last comment of the previous thread.

The parallel to our current situation with Mr Obama's continuing failures to show-up when expected should not be ignored. And, the reaction of his followers when it's time to vote again shouldn't be discounted.

"1844 The "Great Disappointment" began when this latest date, set for the return of Christ by religious leader William Miller, passed without event. Over 100,000 disillusioned followers returned to their former churches, or abandoned the Christian faith altogether."

They were just lucky they didn't have to wind up drinking the strychnine kool-aid cocktail................

Sturg, what would you do if you were stuck in Guyana without a return ticket?

I think it will ultimately be girl-power that prevails in Afghanistan.

Wonder when Kinky will be on Imus.

"Dick Cheney says Barack Obama is "dithering,"..."

I said it first, but that was on healthcare so maybe it doesn't count.

In 1888 an Egyptian farmer digging in the sand near the village of Istabl Antar uncovered a mass grave. The bodies weren't human. They were feline—ancient cats that had been mummified and buried in pits in staggering numbers. "Not one or two here and there," reported the English Illustrated Magazine, "but dozens, hundreds, hundreds of thousands, a layer of them, a stratum thicker than most coal seams, ten to twenty cats deep." Some of the linen-wrapped cats still looked presentable, and a few even had gilded faces. Village children peddled the best specimens to tourists for change; the rest were sold in bulk as fertilizer. One ship hauled about 180,000, weighing some 38,000 pounds, to Liverpool to be spread on the fields of England.

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2009/11/animal-mummies/williams-text

Here's an illuminating discussion about their using mummies as fuel in their locomotives, along with related uses.

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2341/do-egyptians-burn-mummies-as-fuel

Patd- I'd like to get some graveyard dirt in his shoes. Don't use the stuff, but for him I would make an exception! It would be for the good of all.

what's the difference between "blithering" and "dithering" and does one discribe the dick on war and the prez on healthcare better than the other?

speaking of dicks. here's a story on holbrooke

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/

Two different connotations.

Dithering completely fits his healthcare stance; blithering doesn't; although it might fit Mr Cheney's comments on Mr Obama's Afghanistan pauses.

Flate......I would never be there, I'm quite sure.......but were i to find myself in such a pickle i would immediately light out into the jungle......better the jungle than a bunch of christians.......

thanks, flatus.

what about "blathering"?

ROFL!
calling someone "afraid" in order to get them to do something or to make them look bad is one of the oldest tricks in the book...

Obama pay attention to it.... hell... I may have criticisms of him.... but being stupid sure ain't one of them.....

as for Dick... well... it's getting limper with each snarl...

"as for Dick... well... it's getting limper with each snarl..."

Oh, Renee, I misread the above to read squirt instead of snarl. Tired eyes sure make for interesting reading.

reb-ren.......maybe cheney ought to "D-double-dog Dare" the president (who is busy cleaning up the garbage that the cheneybush left all over the world.)

I hope whoever plays the Phillies, sweeps them. I'm surprised Cheney didn't say that Obama was "ascared" to make a decision.

Corey, is your factory getting busier now??

knowing who their opponent will be.... go Phillies... GO!

Sturg.... maybe they could put a certificate of that D-double-dog Dare in junior's library... right next to the copy of My Pet Goat....

Flatus.... LOL!

We're steady right now, Flatus. I want revenge, Renee. I don't care who plays Philly. I'm talking about a Pats vs. Titans beatdown on them.

did cheney use the phrase "fraidy-cat"?

Watch Franken slice and dice the nice wingnut lady

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/10/22/795842/-Watch-Franken-slice-and-dice-the-nice-wingnut-lady-

Maybe we should give the pusilnanimous, puling, little piss ant and his pathetic pronouncements a break

The weasel wallowing in his own wasted existence does have to live with that wife if only for image sake.

Corey,

I'm in 24 hours of mourning and then I am with you. May the National League wreak havoc on whomever the American League dares to put on the field.

cry "havoc" and let slip the boys of summer.........

will someone please take the batteries out of Dick Cheney?

patd...thanks for the article on the violence here on the border...I posted the other day the cartel killed the mayor of Palomas -- used to be a quaint border town.

"will someone please take the batteries out of Dick Cheney?"

BW, they won't last long, they're AAA-size, and there're only two of them, and they were expired when installed.

flatus...probably toxic junk batteries from China

Weiner on C-SPAN about healthcare.

He probably meant 'dickering', but he slurred the word.

If I were on the Oteam or O ,himself, I would tell the media

"As he's all fired up about the project, we'll reserve a spot in the front line for old 'Sureshot'....

But, only if he can get sober....

We don't want him shooting any more Americans."

Former Vice President Dick Cheney got an award Wednesday night, the Center for Security Policy's "Keeper of the Flame Award." ................
and Donald Rumsfeld. (Of that last man, Cheney said Wednesday, "truth be told, any award once conferred on Donald Rumsfeld carries extra luster, and I am very proud to see my name added to such a distinguished list.")

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/index.html?story=/politics/war_room/feature/2009/10/21/cheney

Helen Thomas and I talk about our new book with Rick Sanchez today on CNN Newsroom 3:45 PM ET.. http://bit.ly/Fsl4b

"http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/cheney-calls-obama-afraid.html#comment-267427"

Make sure she gets enough rest and watches her diet. Her pace is horrendous although exhilarating.

dink cheney is arming for the dangerous mission of getting into a firefight with his D.T.s.

You have no idea how well-trained, well-armed, and ruthless his delusions are.

cbob, you mean the "keeper of the flame in hell" award?

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/cheney-calls-obama-afraid.html#comment-267429

X......one can tell that best by listening to his daughter-clone

Corey.... you might think I was thrilled with that Pats beating on the Titans....
well I was for the first half.... but with the second half, I found it to be one of the saddest experiences while watching a sports game ever. I've never seen a professional sports team just give up like the Titans did.

I think the Yankees/Phillies World Series will be a well fought battle by 2 very good teams. Although it would have been interesting to see Joe Torre play against his old team.

On Oct. 12, a man hunting in northwest WaKeeney in Trego County made not only a discovery, but history, too. The man snapped photos of what this week became the first verified, live mountain lion in Kansas since 1904.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/77555.html?storylink=MI_emailed

Unless the Angels can suddenly pull out an end times miracle.... Like rescuing felonious george steinbrenner and sicking him on his team, it'll be over tonight.

Yankees over Phils in 5.

It just shows what $200 million bux and a little luck can get you.

maybe the turgid one was "D-double-dog Dare"d to touch his tongue to the war flag pole and it froze in mid-rant.

Can anyone think of anything that rumdum ever did in his entire wasted life well enough to merit any award ?

I think his main aims in life were to destroy the US Army and Marines, lose wars, and give weapons to saddam hussein, "our best friend in the Middle East".

To me, he is the quintessential professional fogcup.

meanwhile on the briney, they're baaaacckkk

http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/node/65408

The Medical Cannabis Victory: A Textbook Case of Organizing and Resistance

The history is instructive on how small steps lead to big change, and is worth study by all who clamor for progress on many fronts: from bringing about national health care to ending the US embargo of Cuba to immigration reform to overhauling an entire economic system, to each and every “issue” one might advocate.

http://narcosphere.narconews.com/thefield/3544/medical-cannabis-victory-textbook-case-organizing-and-resistance

the new top NH attorney has announced that he will not prosecute anyone using marijuana for medical purposes....

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/national/northeast/view/20091020us_attorney_wont_go_after_nh_medical_pot_users/srvc=home&position=recent

Craig, I wouldn't call Obama acting now on Afghanistan as "rushing". You really think with events on the ground, Obama is trying to avoid a "rush"? And as I mentioned last night, does Obama want to repeat the mistake Musharraf made by not sealing the border as one side or another goes after the Taliban. Pakistan pleaded with NATO yesterday to close the border? With an uncoordinated strategy between the US and Pakistan, I rather doubt Obama has the troops to close the border, do you?

As far as Cheney, your comments are right, but I rather doubt the Democrats who don't want more troops in Afghanistan would have let Bush put more in Afghanistan. And that is a story in itself. Democrats blasted Bush for lower troop numbers than Shinseki wanted, but they would NEVER have gone along with 300,000 troops in Iraq. And just look at their response to McCyrstal. They re-circulate the friendly death story and even consider more drones in Pakistan as the answer to their prayers. Read your posters here: They don't want anymore military agression no matter the consequence. Even talking about Africa or the Middle East invokes cries of obsession and warmongering.

Yes, Bush could have done many things differently, but with the UN planning new elections in two weeks, Obama's delay is problematic no matter the spin from the Penguin. Media touts Kerry as "convincing" Karsai to have a run-off, but again the truth was that Kerry wanted a coalition government as a run-off with the Taliban surging or under attack in Pakistan is very bad timing.

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/10/37th-in-health-performance/

Here is a fact check on the claim the US ranks 37th. If you go further than fact check and look at just quality and responsiveness, the US leads. This is why those millions including Union workers consider their insurance some of the best in the world. No matter how Democrats want to skew this reality, if costs go up and quality.responsiveness goes down, so will their political dingy. It will be bobing around in high seas just like the GOP dingy. Please note the game Pelosi is playing. One plan with Public option is now lower in cost (and will anybody talk about the solvency of Medicare?) while the plan that comes out without is will be much higher. This is just cooking the books to get what you want. How Bush.

Again if the majority want a public option, then why do most polls still show the majority are against Obama's plan altogether? Perhaps who pollsters ask and how they ask explain the strange polling numbers.

Yep, exaggeration on both sides will surely lead to a bigger mess. Had Obama demanded the transparency he promised, this would not have happened. I wonder how much this tactical inclination affects issues like Iran and Afghanistan. I'll leave those considerations for another post.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/cheney-calls-obama-afraid.html#comment-267434

I agree X, or maybe even a bit closer. Now how about

Yanks against the Taliban?

Yanks against AQ?

Yanks against a deal that would allow Iran to continue their effort to make nukes?

Yanks effort to cover all while lower costs without damage to quality and responsiveness?

"PR.com: Will President Obama be successful in reforming healthcare?

Howard Dean: Yes. He will sign a bill in late December with a real public option that works.

PR.com: And when should that go into effect?

Howard Dean: That’s another battle. I very much believe that he needs to use Medicare as the public option, at least for some of the people. He should [include people] who are under sixty-five. You can’t do it for everybody because you wouldn’t want a hundred million people in the Medicare system overnight, and there would be a financial problem, but you certainly can do it for some people. I believe that some people who are under fifty ought to be allowed to sign up for Medicare and pay premiums into the system. The reason I believe that is for political reasons. You need to show that this bill works before the 2010 elections. The only possibility of that is in using an existing bureaucracy. There is no chance of being able to start up a new bureaucracy for a public option, so the only thing you could do is expand the Medicare system to cover more people."

http://www.pr.com/article/1135

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/cheney-calls-obama-afraid.html#comment-267383

I guess even more than Ahmadinejad, Mao, Kimmie, Stalin, Bashir, OBL, Omar and a long list of dispicable characters.

"Make sure she gets enough rest and watches her diet. Her pace is horrendous although exhilarating. -- Posted by: Flatus"

Not to worry Flatus. The question is, can I keep up with her! We signed books for 4 hours last night, and she still wanted to go out for dinner, didn't get home until midnight.

also from the dr. dean interview linked above:

PR.com: It’s an interesting irony that obviously members of Congress are employees of the Unites States Government, so that’s who’s providing their health insurance for them.

Howard Dean: That’s true, and not only that, they actually have government run healthcare in the Capital. If you pay four hundred dollars a year you can go see the doctor pretty much anytime you want. And if you get sick you can go to Walter Reed Hospital (Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington DC); it’s a government run hospital. So Congress, in fact, has what the Republican Congressmen are complaining about. And I’ve long thought that we ought to have exactly what they have.

PR.com: Do they understand the hypocrisy?

Howard Dean: Oh, of course they understand the hypocrisy. That’s what people do in Congress. But the fact is that the American people get it. They understand that they ought to have what Congress has.

New jobless claims rise more than expected

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=114033343&ft=1&f=1001

Bush/Cheney are the classic example of failing upward. Have either one of these two ever been correct or wothwhile in any pursuit either has even undertaken. The trail of dead bodies alone either by execution or war should be enough to damn them both for all eternity.

murdoch gang's latest drivel:

http://mediamatters.org/research/200910220008

passing query: why does rupert murdoch promote such hatred?

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/cheney-calls-obama-afraid.html#comment-267439

Now if some inforcement person would come out and say they will not enforce any law against marijuana use unless involved in injury of another human being or their property, then maybe sanity would return.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/cheney-calls-obama-afraid.html#comment-267442

Nice quotes, Pat. How about Dr Dean as Surgeon General?

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/cheney-calls-obama-afraid.html#comment-267444

You're not taking your 50 mg of DHEA Craig. Tell Helen my mom (she would kill me if I mentioned her age) still loads up her van for antique shows and travels the East coast. Some people are blessed.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/cheney-calls-obama-afraid.html#comment-267448

patd

Being a selfish, greedy, powermad, loathsome toad whose children can't stand him probably has something to do with it.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/cheney-calls-obama-afraid.html#comment-267447

I am sure Saddam would agree with you Jamie. Don't fret about the unemployment number as some Democrats say this is the new normal. Of course the Democrats who blasted Bush on vaccines are failing big time too.

Now will Cortizone (ha) beat Cristie by blasting his fatness? Shelia was drubbed over attacking a candidate about a stutter. Is this the new normal too?
And there is New Pogo calling Republicans rape-promoting racist crazies. How civil. It goes both ways people.

Oh I forgot. That woman who had seven guys indicted in a race assault, now recants. I wish Sharpton was there demanding the truth. I was in NYC at the time of the Brawley case and Sharpton acting in a far more disgusting way than Democrats will now admit. But then historical revision is not something just a Cheney can aspire to.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/cheney-calls-obama-afraid.html#comment-267449

when was the last time some pot head got loaded and beat up his wife/girl friend? Now asked the same question with Beer or liquor?

Bachmann Says Dole And Frist Represent A ‘Non-Pro-Freedom Agenda’ Because They Want Health Reform

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/10/21/bachmann-nonprofreedomagenda-dole-frist/

The People's Cube, Obama's War on Fox News Becomes A Quagmire GRIN.

http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/2009/10/peoples-cube-obamas-war-on-fox-news.html

http://people-press.org/

Jamie note the report on global warming, but also the numbers of those who don't want Obama's healthcare plan. How can Media Matters pass over this contradiction without admitting what Rove says about the questions asked is not true? Of course many networks like ABC and CNN have said basically said the same thing Rove says in their investigating the public option poll numbers. Results swing wildly as more specific questions are clarified. And without the CBO and others vetting the likely results including deficits and cost increases for those with insurance, do you really think the numbers are solid?

I have heard Democrats balsting the results on Polls questioning whether we should pre-empt Iran. Its in how the question is asked, they cry as 60% of Americans favor pre-emption to prevent an Iranian nuke. When the consequences are discussed with a liberal slant, the numbers drop. I love how Democrats blast polls they don't like and use inverted logic to support those they like.

But the Republicans often do the same thing. In this, I am not taking sides, just pointing out the game behind polls as I did above about the 37th ranking of the US Healthcare system.

Later....work calls.

"And there is New Pogo calling Republicans rape-promoting racist crazies. How civil. It goes both ways people."

Max, the facts remain that 30 all male white Republicans VOTED AGAINST the anti-rape bill amendment put forward by Al Franken.

Those are your uncomfortable facts that Pogo is referring to regardless of what you think.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/cheney-calls-obama-afraid.html#comment-267454

Dooty,

Exactly. They are curled up on their couches getting fat on munchies. Just leave them in peace and raise thier insurance rates. :-)

By making pot criminal the authorities have created a crime wave and it is time for it to end so the police can get back to the dangerour people.

Actually I'm in favor of making most of the opiates over the counter as well, the way they used to be. Let Darwin take care of the abusers.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/cheney-calls-obama-afraid.html#comment-267454

I prefer my pilots neither stoned nor drunk.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/cheney-calls-obama-afraid.html#comment-267458

You don't get from there to New Pogo's statement. I would have voted to demand the exclusion of the no rape clause but Republicans had their convoluted logic which wasn't based on being pro-rape.

Sorry. I will check the attaacks later in the day. This is probably the last nicest day of the season here in NYC. About 70. Got to run as shorts will probably be retired tomorrow.......

Obama leads all potential 2012 matchups

http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2009/10/obama-continues-to-lead-2012-contests.html

Max,

I don't care how many people have an "opinion" about global warming. They can have any "opinion" they want. It doesn't change the facts. You do seem to have a problem differentiating the two conditions.

Jamie,

Years ago you could tell which convenience stores were located in the "hip area" of town. The Cup Cake and Twinkies isle always looked like a war zone after midnight most nights.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/cheney-calls-obama-afraid.html#comment-267460

stupid logic...no one said that pilots should fly stoned or drunk. It is still against the law for pilots to fly drunk. But that doesn't mean that they could show up for work stoned or drunk. But after they are off work and not having to work again what for the next 24 hours, they could be arrested for smoking pot. Stupid law.

Jamie...
I agree that all marijuana use done privately in one's own home should be legal.
The announcement of not going after medical marijuana state by state is a step in the right direction, IMO.

Craig.... I just sent off an email to the Diane Rehm show asking if she could do a program with you and Helen on your new book. Hope it happens.

Bearing in mind an anatomically impossible piece of advice Cheney once gave a member of the opposition:

Bearing in mind that we now have a very young TMer:

Bearing in mind that our gracious host is not fond of the term the former VP used:

I will give said former VP an admonition a Kos friend of mine uses in such situations: Dick, GO CHENEY YOURSELF!!!!

Flatus
On your "girl power" winning afghanistan.
You may have a point.
On Thomas Ricks's blog he had several posts about Female Engagement Teams and their effectivness.

http://ricks.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/10/09/women_in_coin_ii_how_to_do_it_right

"First, Afghans don't seem to mind the female teams. Paradoxically, "Female Marines are extended the respect shown to men, but granted the access reserved for women," the report finds. "In other words, the culture is more flexible than we've conditioned ourselves to think."

Second, the teams have been successful in reaching the other half of the population, one that carries disproportionate influence with the prime Taliban recruiting pool. "Local women wield more influence than many of us imagined-influence on their husbands, brothers, and especially their adolescent sons."

"One gentleman with a gray beard who opened his home to the FET put it this way: ‘Your men come to fight, but we know the women are here to help.'"

Here is more on FETs
http://ricks.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/10/14/women_in_coin_iii_the_view_from_helmand

Jack

Cheney is loathsome. Why won't he go back to his undisclosed crypt?

Indeed, Ivy!!!

more on fet

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/21/opinion/21iht-edbroadwell.html

from that nyt op ed linked above:

"...the dearth of women Pashto translators remains a critical problem."
Paula Broadwell, a former U.S. Army officer, is a research associate at The Center for Public Leadership at Harvard University and a board member of Women in International Security.

Posted by: yo soy Horsedooty! | October 22, 2009 11:00 AM : " Max, the facts remain that 30 all male white Republicans VOTED AGAINST the anti-rape bill amendment put forward by Al Franken."

Absolutely, right, Yo. Those 30 rapepublicans also voted to do away with Americans' ability to report criminal activity, the Sacred Obligation that Our Forefathers Fought and Died to Uphold. This attempt to ensnare citizensin the coils of organized crime is nothing less than an attack on Americans' Freedom !

In short, it shows that rapepublicans are extremely non-pro-freedom, if not more so.( :>D)<

w'az up in waziristan? interesting complications:

http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/

Posted by: maxtrue | October 22, 2009 11:01 AM :
"I prefer my pilots neither stoned nor drunk."

That is a very non-pro-freedom comment. In the good old pro-freedom days, pilots were free to fly drunk whenever they wanted to.

But now, the non-pro-freedom crowd demands that Big Government step in and take care of everybody's health concerns.

What is wrong with letting the people decide, letting the people take some responsibility for their choices, rather than Big Government mandating sobriety in every cockpit ?

you are on a roll today Xrepublican very nice :)

'Democrats are an opinionated bunch, you think for yourselves, I like that...but now do as your told. '

http://www.breitbart.tv/do-what-theyre-told-obama-takes-swipe-at-republicans-during-nyc-fundraiser/

I don't actually believe that those 30 male Republican Senators are "pro-rape".
I think Ms. Fairweather did a very good job of explaining their probable reasoning for the way they voted on Franken's amendment the other night. But the right has for years been characterizing people who are pro-choice as being "pro-abortion" and or "pro-baby killing".

I won't go over why those characterizations are dead wrong and so offensive. It's all been said over and over again before. But what those 30 Senators did was hand the left a chance to play that game too. And you know what "they" say.... payback is a bitch.... PRO-RAPE!

Patd good article.

Liked the conclusion
"The success of the F.E.T. initiative illustrates how the Marine Corps is adapting to the counterinsurgency threat in an innovative way. Now it is time for Defense Department to adapt its regulations as well."

Jack

Information that the Big Spice Companies and Edith Hamilton don't want you to know :

For hundreds of years in ancient Greece, bay leaf was a banned drug, because it drove women to dismember men at the seasonal bacchanal parties.

Greek men very selfishly objected to losing their members. And so, the men banned bay leaf, except in upon the brows of duly installed winners of Olympic games, which women were forbidden to attend.

Incidentally, marijuana was worn a by both genders indiscriminately in the form of sturdy garments, and with the full approval of law enforcement officials.

Marijuana was the cash crop grown by Abe Lincoln's family, and even young Abe himself. This fact is no longer important, since Mr. Lincoln ceased to be sufficiently politically correct to maintain his membership in the rapepublican party.

I wouldn't want the kid to get the wrong idea that it's okay for kids to smoke pot (or anything.) It's not. It stunts their growth.

The Lincolns also unknowingly grew White Snakeroot which led to the untimely death of his mother.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Snakeroot

Ivy

I don't know about growth but it can consume a lot of time.
fire up a joint and forget what ever you planned for the rest of the day.
At least that is how it worked for me.

Jack

David Shuster just tweeted RE: Lamar Alexander's strident insistence that Pres. Obama is being harder on his "enemies" than Pres. Nixon:

Pat Buchanan says Alexander is "idiotic."

HELLO!! I agree with Pat. Now I'm gonna go throw up and then take a shower.

I've smoked pot before......i've never had "munchies"........i've never had a flashback......i've never forgotten things nor decided not to do whatever i've had to do as a result of smoking pot......it's all a joke how they people react to smoking pot......humbug.
also never hit a woman because of it.......never wrecked a car because of it.......never had a blackout nor a hangover.

it's just stupid to sell liquor, wine, beer, and cigarettes but make pot illegal..........just stupid.

Ms Renee,

The logic of the the US chamber of commerce pro-rape message was perfectly straightforward. In short, they said that private contracts trump US criminal law. There was nothing convoluted about it at all, it was blatantly pro-crime, pro-criminal, anti-victim, anti-woman, and more stupid than the average turnip.

Of course, if the chamber were correct, each murder would be legal as long as it was a contract job. From the nation's beginning no court, not even the brain dead roger b. taney court, has ever fallen for that argument.

In fact, every contract to hide a crime is itself criminal. If the contract is necessary for employment, it is classed as racketeering and extortion. If the hush clause comes into play as the result of a rape, the company and its officers become accessories to rape, are as culpable as the rapist and ought to share the same punishment.

"it's all a joke how they SAY people react to smoking pot......"

i meant to say

also........kids shouldnt smoke ANYTHING......nor drink alcohol....that's actually elementary and no one is out trying to get permission for kids to do any of that........

and i said it before, but.........the main people who want draconian anti-pot laws are the people who make loads of money because of its illegality........pah.........

and there's no taxes being paid.........

I recommend

1. that young people obey the law until such time as they are able to cite great age and infirmity to avoid incarceration.

2. that all humans avoid smoke, except as is absolutely necessary in the grilling and smoking of food.

3. against using marijuana. I have tried it, and do not like it.

However, I drink red wine, as recommended by my urologist, as I am an old man with many aches and pains. I do not recommend red wine to anyone less than 21 years of age, as it can stunt growth, impair thinking, and retard brain development.

Good grief, Mx Lewis, I agree with pud buchanan, too !

Surely, this is a sign of the End Times, and the Fulfillment of Prophecy : The Liar shall lay down with the Lamp.

I fancy myself in the role of the Lamp.

XR,

Smoke a joint already.....what r u on now speed...hahaha

New Method To Help Keep Fruit, Vegetables And Flowers Fresh

ScienceDaily (Oct. 20, 2009) — Did you know that millions of tons of fruits and vegetables in the United States end up in the trash can before being eaten, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture?

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091020111623.htm

Ms Green,

Thanks. I always wondered why Lincoln's mommy to died so young, and figured that it was some infection or pestilence. I never would have guessed reserpine. The movie didn't tell me that she was cramming for exams.

Fair, Xrep

Buchannon is offended that the low life Obama is compared to saint Nixon.
So you both can quit worrying.

I find it amusing that the Republicans use one of there owns bad behavior to try to smear Obama.

Jack

Speaking of Reps bad behavior and dithering.
Howmany years did Shrub dither befor he took the reins out of cheny's hands fired Rummy and appointed Gates?
That kinda makes georgie the king of the ditherers.

Jack

Funny, the testosterone levels fell in ancient Greek men who attended the Bacchanales. Kinda like the rapepublican men who lost their muckains.

Solar,
Lantus, novolog, gabapentin, aspirin, lisinipril, and simvastatin.

Plus Percocet prn, & Vitis Vinifera var Syrah prn.

No speed, thanks, I'm aging fast enough already.

Mr. Bob,

I refuse to read a story that, it is hinted, will tell me that the food I eat comes out of the garbage.

Gotta go make a buck. Where's my 30/06 ?

XR,

Dooty is right...u'r on a roll. and ms Fair also..more.!

I don't give a ---- WHAT Dick Cheney says or thinks. Obama is doing exactly what he said he would do in Afghanistan, that I do know.
We are stuck in Afghanistan one way or another. Cheney is as irrelevant as the Fox News crew.

Dex

Cheney does have some entertainment value.
May be just to me and maybe because it is cold and rainy here so I called it a day early and broke the seal on a bottle of southern comfort.

Jack

One other thing about Cheney
Without him and others like him, think how much harder Craig would have to work.

Jack

Some music from Nixon's enemies list:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql0IB1zv2MA

Now I'm off to write about the legions of Rome until 3:45.

Nite, all.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/cheney-calls-obama-afraid.html#comment-267490

X, I've always said the sky will fall before Pat B and I agree on anything.

I'm building a shelter even as I type.:D

Warming of the Arctic continues to be widespread, and in some cases, dramatic.
Linkages between air, land, sea, and biology are evident.

http://www.arctic.noaa.gov/reportcard/

If the President starts reacting to Cheney's empty rhetoric, then it's time for me to get afraid.

Rick Sanchez just did a piece with Kerry Kennedy on an ecological disaster in Ecuador involving Chevron

http://www.startribune.com/business/63838997.html

He also had on a response. Here is an article about the Chevron rebuttal

http://theminorityreportblog.com/story/loren_heal/2009/10/15/chevron_responds_to_kerry_kennedy_attacks

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/cheney-calls-obama-afraid.html#comment-267493

XR --

I had to go look that up. The stuffy nose side-effect would be a problem, imo.

(^_~)

Craig on in a minuite at CNN with Helen...

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/cheney-calls-obama-afraid.html#comment-267496

X did you know that the legendary Amazon women drank horse urine to increase their testosterone?

Quote my sources? Maybe...

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/cheney-calls-obama-afraid.html#comment-267485

Then perhaps you need to smoke a bit of premium stuff, not that all those side effects are great. I do know someone who was completely immune to pot.....

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/cheney-calls-obama-afraid.html#comment-267414

Sorry Corey, these 2009 Phillies don't lay down and quit like the Dodgers do.

(^Whoops; baseball talk. Sorry.)

From the AP:

"Economists say that decline is likely due to jobless benefits running out, rather than people finding jobs."

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/New-jobless-claims-rise-more-apf-1168669314.html?x=0&.v=1

Craig,

Obama is just as much of a manipulator as was Bush 43 imo.

During the Pres. campaign; he used vague language that involved careful manipulation as far as Afghanistan is concerned: When he announced his plan for withdrawal, in the same breath he proposed a "residual force of support"

Now he is saying "support troops" instead of "Combat troops". Hust more of the same bs. that Bush gave us.and by the time that the voters figure it out ....Bam..60k more troops. Nobel Peace Prize-givers was a nice try, but he is commit ed to war just as much as Cheney was.......

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/cheney-calls-obama-afraid.html#comment-267512

DL

Go wash your mouth out with Palmolive. I'll be rooting for the National League, but dont' insult my Dodgers. They did well.

Good show.

A person who knows bankruptcy is looming around he corner will often increase their debt load by exhausting all available lines of credit. The Federal government is facing the exact same situation except, they have the benefit of printing more more falling US $$$$.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/28586.html

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/cheney-calls-obama-afraid.html#comment-267515

Well, the Dodgers choked, and were still talking like they were the better team after the game. Torre is over-rated as a manager, and Manny really is a clubhouse cancer. They have some good young talent, like Loney and Ethier, but I wouldn't look for anything from them until Manny is gone.

"Phils in 5, by the way."

Posted by: dark-lord-bloggingham.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | October 13, 2009 2:20 PM

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Jack, very interesting, indeed. I was thinking about girl-girls who, if they are able to garner even three or four years of education can prove their value as the literate member of a family.

why the heck would cheny do that. he's a major reason where in this screw up in the first place.

sorry for not saying

wats up bloogers :-)

Where have all the shovel ready jobs gone? The stimulus is losing steam according to WH economist..

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i-95E_TCyqYX0CBZ5xQAV_V3VWyQD9BG76902

You should be playing outside, or studying your math, kid. You'll have your whole adult life to get mixed up in silly stuff like politics and the like.

Maxtrue,

There is a line in Ovid about the brilliant white teeth of the Spaniard - the result of brushing their teeth with horse urine. Actually, Romans probably thought any tooth brusher had bright fangs.

Of course, if an Amazon used mare's urine, there wouldn't be much of a testosterone rush.

your loardship...if that is what you realy are

if a politision says to you you'll be taking my job somday,who cares. i do play outside but not right now,it's covers in dog crap,and it has flys comming in by miles. and i could kick your but in a political debate.

Falling dollar. Oh, TuR, you are sooooooo yesterday.

Craig.... the usual superb appearance by you and Helen on Rick Sanchez's show...

your lordship.... now, now.... you don't have to act like some obnoxious Yankee fan.... Manny gave his best years to the Red Sox.... however, they knew exactly what they were doing when they got rid of him, IMO....

me 168.... kid... I like your attitude...

Hi Me

What's happening in your world?

Me168

Without blowing the whole "identity on the web" thing, is there a nickname you would like to be called?

Mr. 168,

Beware of all the bullshoulders around here.

Mr. Bloggingham has several good points. He never impedes the flow of history, and never steals from blind orphans.

However, I don't recommend getting into a butt kicking with him. Those lumberjack boots are quite unsanitary; he kicks high and inside; he is an excellent speller, to boot.

Some call him Laird, some lord. I call him Mr. and get away with it, because I can spit snuff into a skunk's eye at 37 paces, and am therefore feared on 3 continents. Antarctica, Atlantis, and Mu.

No way the Phils beat the Yanks, Dark Lord. You DO sound like the typical Philadelphia fan, though. I'm talking Phillies, Eagles etc...I mean, they trashed Mike Schmidt throughout his career and he was arguably one of the best players of his generation.

As for all the weed discussion...I guess another good thing about weed is that you never hear any bar stories about someone hooking up with someone and then saying, "Yeah, he/she was ugly...but I had my *weed goggles* on!"

LOL
Your Lordship, I don't ever remember being in Florida, But the Kid sounds like he could be one of mine. Feisty youngun ain't he?
Better look out, LOL

me168
My google tool bar has a good spell check and the tool bar is free. Ask anyone here, I would be lost without it.

Jack

dlb,

As much as you're trying to avoid the topic, I have to point out that at 113 million the Phils are hardly some good old boys playing for their supper. I don't like that the Yankees have a big market, big payroll advantage, but BOTH the owners and players don't appear to want any restrictions. So that's what we get.

Being an AL fan, after they finish off the Angels, I'll say the Yanks in 6.

Sounds like the kind of kid who I'll chase away from my great granddaughters--that spelling is contagious.

Not ready to make a prediction yet, but won't let the
trashing of my NY Yankees continue unanswered.

Whether we are 'obnoxius' or allegedly 'members of
a NY crime family', I am one very proud Yankee fan,
---meanwhile to all you 'yankee haters' --- give it up
you lost!

Now, now Renee,

All us Yankee fans aren't obnoxious.

I hope.

and I just want to say that I know not all Yankee fans are obnoxious.... 2 of them that I know on this blog.... EdVB and Coreen... I'd gladly share drinks and food with any day....

me168..... is the dog crap in the yard from your dog?... and if so, what kind of dog is it?

what a coinky dinky....
Ed... Coreen.... I didn't see your posts before I posted mine....

For anyone who wasn't around yesterday me168 is Purple In Tampa's grandson and is in on an age waiver courtesy of Mr. Crawford.

We need to get Vanilla Birdie back in so that there isn't quite an age gap between the youngest and the almost equally elderly.

re: yankee fans.

Well I know a couple of good Republicans too, I just never understood why they stay Republicans.

Jack

Michelle Bachman earning her flying mouse guano insanity button for the day

http://www.mnprogressiveproject.com/diary/4290/bachmann-bob-dole-and-bill-frist-hate-freedom

This is a great read...

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/10256766/Upon-further-review:-The-word-on-Rush

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/cheney-calls-obama-afraid.html#comment-267536

We Yankee Haters haven't lost YET. There is still a little think called the World Series and for the duration, I have become a Phillies fan until next year.

My brother in law plays a lot of board games and he also had several whiny children. So he instituted this rule early on. Anyone was free to play any game but they got no help because of their age. So if it took reading to play they had to do their best to read, the same with math. It worked well.
I have been on several usenet groups that informally operated under those rules. I like them as I like a young perspective. On the net you can't tell anyone's age or sex or even how much I have drank today. It is all just bits and bytes and all we do is guess from what is posted.
I may or may not be Jack, I may or may not drink whisky, I may or may not have a wife that will kick my butt if I don't have the house cleaned up before she gets back tonight.

So if anyone any age wants to engage in semi adult behavior and talk politics then I'm all for it.
Just remember I may not agree with your opinions or facts and some days I'm damn blunt about it.
On those days just borrow KGC's baseball bat and slap me up side the head with it.

With that maybe I had better appease my wife and get busy cleaning house.

Jack

YANKEES SUCK...YANKEES SUCK!!!

Jamie,

Precisely why I have not made any prediction at this point.

But I can tell you that Yankee Pride does not allow
me to change pinstripes ever.

Evening,

Quick check in.

Cheney - the dark lord who helped start this mess, and let Afghanistan fester for 6 years after picking the sore open? Yes, we should certainly respect his view of what Obama should be doing.

Solar, you're right. (Oh, and that was a delicious lunch you bought - but I had to skip the rice and dessert - damn diet).

Max, you wrote"And there is New Pogo calling Republicans rape-promoting racist crazies." I just said that Reupblicans are racist. Other folks were talking about rape promoting. And I see that you again provided not onwe link to support your assertion that the Intel community members said they were restraining Bush with the NIEs of 2003 and 2007. And no, Bush did not like the reports - but that was not what you said. If you want to morph your arguments, you might try being a little more subtle than that.

Oh, and on health care, the article you linked ended thusly: "Among the other stats on how the U.S. health care system and health stacks up internationally: A 2007 Commonwealth Fund report ranked the U.S. last out of six industrialized countries in health system performance, which included measures on quality, access, efficiency, equity of care and healthy lives. "Access" and "equity" measures are affected by the lack of universal health care. On life expectancy, the U.S. ranks 50th and below France, Canada, the U.K. and the European Union average, according to the CIA World Factbook. Infant mortality is also higher in the U.S. than all of those countries and more. A 2006 report on infant mortality by the nonprofit Save the Children showed the U.S. tied for next to last among industrialized countries." And this was the WSJ's writer. The ONLY thing the article debunked was the rank of 37th in the WHO assessment, by attacking the methodology. Pitiful.

Gotta go to the last football game of the season for LP (mercifully).

Bear,

I started hating Rush Limbaugh about 20 years ago and I've never seen the "incident" in any of the list of bad things Rush has said articles, but I know I wasn't delusional then or now.

There was a story about hazing of a young black person where a group of white boys had jumped him and painted him with white paint. In one of those asides didn't click off the mike quite in time, I heard Rush say to his engineer: "Painted White? He should have been so lucky!"

Maybe he thought it was a funny throw away line, but even giving him the benefit of a doubt, it still reveals the core of the man being rooted in anger, violence, and prejudice. Nothing he has said or done since has changed my opinion of this pathetic creature. The most sympathetic emotion I can manage for him is wondering what sort of childhood he could have had to be so warped and disgusting.

The team and fans are fine with me, it is just that republican sack of felonious sewage, the SHAME of the Yankees, george steinbrenner, who doesn't deserve to see, hear, taste, or smell victory.

Coreen....
as I one time said on this blog to Lardass Liberal.....
I don't root "against" any team.... I root "for" the teams I love... the Red Sox, Celtics, and Patriots..... but hey.... it's just sports and a form of entertainment....

Hey Corey, I'm just a kid from Dayton, Ohio with two bad knees and a dream to play Major-League Baseball. Shouldn't you be a Tigers fan, anway?

Rez, the reason pay-roll is that high is because they are paying to keep the talent they developed. Happ, Hamels, Howard, Rollins, Utley... all came up in the system. I'm just enjoying the magic it while it lasts, and I've got bad news for A-Rod and Kate... neither one of them are getting a ring this year! Phils!

...and a final note: an 11 year old should not be interacting with adults on the internet. It's a terrible lapse in judgment to allow it, and to subject a young mind to possible manipulation by strangers and introduce them to complex-topics of a sensitive nature before they are emotionally capable of dealing with them is incredibly irresponsible. You want cute, get a puppy.

It's funny to see some Yankee talk today since a lot of their fans have short memories. When it was reported that Manny and Ortiz were on the Mitchell report list, Yankee fans were quick to say the Red Sox wins were tainted, despite the fact that they test year, 2003, was before either Sox Win. They also forget that at least 10 Yankees players were reported to have used during their run in the late 1990's.

I think one of the things that really sank Rudy "The Plunger" Giulliani's poorly run campaign for President is when he came out in the fall of 2007 saying he hoped the Red Sox would win the World Series. No self respecting Yankees fan would ever hope Boston would win. The only time I as a Sox fan wanted to see the Yankees win was in 2001 and God rewarded the Yankees with a choke loss. I still laugh at the number of people who lost total respect for the Plunger after that bit of voter pandering...

...oh and Corey, I waited my whole life for the Phillies to be hated. It's magnificent.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/cheney-calls-obama-afraid.html#comment-267545

Jack

I am in full agreement about board games and children. Mine have been playing chess since they could understand how the pieces moved. My son figured out that a strategic three letter word in scrabble could rack up a higher score than some six letter thing he didn't understand. :-)

I firmly believe that part of the problem with today's schools is not expecting children to meet goals, but that is a whole other issue.

The actress who portrayed Mayella Ewell in To Kill A Mockingbird has passed away at the age of 74

http://www.comcast.net/articles/entertainment/20091022/US.Obit.Wilcox/

I Got Something To Say:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckVV3eA4azw

Renee,

Thank you for the vote of confidence. Someday we'll have that drink.

Jack,

Mickey Mantle
Otto Graham
Bill Russell
Loyalty

The first three are the reasons I picked my teams. The fourth is why I'm still with them all, despite often being embarassed by the Yankee owner -- without any regard to his politics.

Renee,

Luv you lots, respect your choices, and you are
right---it is entertainment & it is great fun.

Ed

My team is the Royals. If I want to follow any of my favorite Royals players I have to watch the big market teams play.
A favorite game, for many years now, during the play offs and series is to spot the Royals players.

Jack

Ed

George Brett and pine tar

Bear,

You may be right about Rudy, but I'm a pretty avid Yankee fan, who has rooted for your Bosox as the AL representative, once my team's season is over. An exception to that has been when the Mets played in the Series, and I expect that this year I would have been rooting for Joe Torre and the Dodgers, if they made it and played anyone other than the Yanks.

Bottom line: I root for the AL rep unless there's some NY or a compelling Yankee tie to the NL team.

Not aged or anything, but the reason for my undying loyalty to the Dodgers was named Sandy Koufax

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Koufax

Rape promoting ? That would be kbr and the other companies that erected the legal fiction that crime victims must negotiate with the company and keep silent otherwise. While kbr may be a republican cash cow, it i only a small subset of the republicans, 30 of whom are pro-rape w/o being promotors. The 'motors' part of the word makes all the difference.

Jack,

Pine tar! You guys won that game.

George Brett could play on my team anytime. Great talent, and more important a great competitor. He and Graig Nettles had a few dust-ups in the area around third base, but I saw them on a panel discussion a few years ago, and each respected the other guy's game.

And as a hitter, it's an insult to Brett to mention Nettles in the same sentence, paragraph, or month.

NEW THREAD

Cbob-good to hear the mt. lions are coming back down there. I love em. There use to be one on my parents land, used to track him, not too far though, they have a large territory.
Sturge- sorry you never got the munchies, they're rather fun.
Jamie- Just shipped out to Salem, so will be back on board. Am getting a bit pissed, have some ideas, will give you a ring.
Ed- glad you got home safe and sound!!
Does anyone know if 168 is for real?

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XR --

Amazes me that my Senators vote unflinchingly on the immoral side of every issue. They might represent me, but they don't represent me.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/10/cheney-calls-obama-afraid.html#comment-267549

Searching for the charitable thought...

...

...

...

His radio persona appears authentic.

I may make Santa Fe one more time.

I have the bit in my teeth .

me168 -

1 #
Get a good screen name, ................ think about it for a while.

2#
Your head won't explode from knowing too much.

RR -
I've been working on weaving old garden hose .
Think about it , ................. everyone has old garden hose.

RR -
You're the last professional weaver we know. The modern world was built on the backs of weavers.

Moody Blues - Question

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBsdHoTdOmc

Why do we never get an answer
When we're knocking at the door
With a thousand million questions
About hate and death and war?
'Cos when we stop and look around us,
There is nothing that we need,
In a world of persecution
That is burning in its greed.

Why do we never get an answer
When we're knocking at the door
Because the truth is hard to swallow
That's what the war of love is for

It's not the way that you say it
When you do those things to me
It's more the way that you mean it
When you tell me what will be

And when you stop and think about it
You won't believe it's true
That all the love you've been giving
Has all been meant for you.

I'm looking for someone to change my life,
I'm looking for a miracle in my life
And if you could see what it's done to me,
To lose the love I knew
Could safely lead me through.

Between the silence of the mountains,
And the crashing of the sea,
There lies a land I once lived in,
And she's waiting there for me,
But in the grey of the morning,
My mind becomes confused,
Between the dead and the sleeping,
And the road that I must choose.

I'm looking for someone to change my life,
I'm looking for a miracle in my life
And if you could see what it's done to me,
To lose the love I knew,
Could safely lead me to
The land that I once knew,
To learn as we grow old
The secrets of our soul.

It's not the way that you say it
When you do those things to me
It's more the way you really mean it
When you tell me what will be

Why do we never get an answer
When we're knocking at the door
With a thousand million questions
About hate and death and war?
'Cos when we stop and look around us,
There is nothing that we need,
In a world of persecution
That is burning in its greed.

The Moody Blues (written by Justin Hayward)

It's not the way that you say it
When you do those things to me
It's more the way you really mean it
When you tell me what will be

me168 -
Don"t smoke, don't drink ........ but never take you're eye off the ball-

Dire Straits - The Bug
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjh7S_6-hB8

-------------
"Sometimes your the windshield, sometimes your the bug. "

For the rest of us -

Dire Straits - Money For Nothing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po1TsgvOoOY

------------
" Maybe get a blister on your thumb "

Fortune Teller - Krauss and Plant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7RLjMmY5Q8

Good stuff, C-Bob. Real good.

Total governmentcontrol always starts out in such innocent ways, and always with responsible, just causes, and always with the public interest at heart. However, once they have obtained full control, they control the who, what, when, where and how. And you thought Big Brother had a Republican face. lol
http://www.reuters.com/article/regulatoryNewsConsumerGoodsAndRetail/idUSN2237873320091022