Sarah has a fine near future. She'll become a sort of Ann Coulter with a human face, selling millions of her memoirs (written for her by penny-a-worders) on her syndicated radio show to an ever shrinking demographic of bitter, dying, old codgers with gas, denture breath, and smelly minds.
She will elude the bullets of her almost former inlaws, and that wacked out ex-trooper, ex-bro-inlaw, and make it to the republican convention in 2012. By then, she and soon to be ex-former MN Governor Potholes Aplenty will have torn chunks out of each other, defending the Prez contenders who will have chosen them as running mates. Staid old willard will have picked Palin, and the humorous huckster will have picked prettyboy Potholes Aplenty. Potholes will be the talk of the town with his shy boyish smile and ability to make compelling and empty promises. But Palin will win because she is more butch. The republican convention will be tied through the 243d ballot.
In the general election, the willard-sarah ticket will come in 5th behind :
Obama & Clinton. Biden will take over as Czar Czar (D) 51.4%
Kinky Friedman's Unleash the Dogs Party (FUD)-37.8%, Carries TX by a landslide and NY by a split hair.
ron paul's Anarchist/Libertarian Party ("Every Man For Himself") - 8.7% Wins squeekers in AK, ID, WY, and UT
ralph nadir's Many Trials Party, as it is called on the West Coast, or Lawsuit Party, as it is called in the East (MT/SUIT) - 2.1%
and lyndon larouche's Salvation LaRouche Party (SALAROUP) - .9%
willard & Palin republican party (R) - .89 %
Vote Count supplied by Phligh, Beinydt, & Associates.
"GOP Rep. Says Uninsured Woman Should Seek Charity
At the Richmond Times-Dispatch “public square” forum yesterday, Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA) took questions from his constituents on the health reform debate for the first time this summer. One such constituent, Patricia Churchill, spoke about a close family member, now unemployed and thus uninsured, who is dying of tumors. Cantor suggested that Churchill’s relative seek 'existing government programs' or find charity."
So, why aren't pong, tir, mqw, and jtrader hip to this latest republican line that Government solves problems ?
On an unrelated topic, good job on C-Span yesterday. You've probably figured it out by now, but the guy from Metarie who referred to the "Heglian Dialect," though he did get at least the spelling of the first part right if not the pronunciation, was undoubtedly talking about the Hegelian Dialectic.
He had me confused as well and I first thought he might be referring to the language from the movie, The Day the Earth Stood Still. Following that twisted logical path potentially reveals the light at the end of the tunnel for the Senate's endless "discussion" of health care:
If the alien spaceship could shut down the earth's electrical system in the interest of world peace, why wouldn't universal coverage be part of the sequel?
~Tom Gordon
P.S.: I have always loved and admired Helen Thomas and just pre-ordered your new book with her on my Kindle. Good luck with it!
Craig,
Your being on KO and my turning it on in Orlando doubled his viewership in this market.
Thank you for giving the accurate time so I was only in pain for a few extra min's.
You are so much better then what you are allowed.
Listen up GE... You need to do something with your entertainment segements cause they are not.
Give Craig a Show !!
Give Barack credit (Most likely Hillary (with Bill behind Hillary) behind the scene) if real sanctions get pushed on IRAN to stop the Nuclear push.
Now be careful Barack... Same story with Bush and IRAQ and then the spineless and do nothing but suck our dollars - corrupt UN and the sleeze that they are would not stand together when it matters.
So be careful Barack and use that skill you have to enchant those in the UN and pull a fast one for the good of all.
Who is that behind those Foster Grants? Oh, her. The worst thing that could happen to her isn't being called the new Mann Coulter, it's being ignored.
Craig is correct in thinking she will string this out as long as she can, but won't run in 2012. She is all about attention, good or bad.
It's a sick psychology summed up in a quote from my new, fave show & shows how she's gotten as far as she has on so little intellectual gas:
"There's not much of a difference between a stadium full of cheering fans and an angry crowd screaming abuse at you. They're both just making a lot of noise. How you take it is up to you. Convince yourself they're cheering for you. You do that, and some day, they will."
- Sue on "GLEE"
Letterman had the best line: "If the speech was that good, it must've been Tina Fey." Her extemp in the airport was as meandering as usual...and, hey, aren't we supposed to be talking about health care & the economy & war & ....
Don't know if this news made it to the national news or not:
"Undercover agents met with Smadi at least 10 times and talked to him at least 40 times while he hatched his plot to commit jihad, or holy war, against the "Romans (Christians) and Jews," an arrest warrant affidavit says. The FBI said Smadi was in the country illegally and lived and worked in Italy, about 45 minutes south of Dallas."
Hmmmmm, he lived in Italy, Texas and had a problem with "Romans."
I know I'm suppose to love him for his mind, his words, but Craig is just so darn cute I can even finish watching Ko and be smiling. That is a testament to Craig's nice way about him.
Rez- Sorry I'm so lousy with the phone- got your message last night, couldn't figure which number was yours though.
Ping, you are quie funny. Craig, you were good before the camera as usual. Yep, you should have a show of your own, but perhaps not on MSNBC. From last night's exchange about MSNBC, these words this morning from AP:
"Dee Davis, president of the Center for Rural Strategies in nearby Whitesburg, said the federal government has done "precious little" in Clay County other than building a federal prison in Manchester in the 1990s. But he is not aware of any deep-seated hatred of the government.
"Government is not seen as the enemy, except for people who might fear getting caught for what they're doing," he said.
University of Pittsburgh sociologist Kathleen Blee, co-author of a book about Clay County, says that when she heard of Sparkman's death, she initially wondered whether he had stumbled across a marijuana plot.
Pot growers seeking to avoid federal forfeiture statutes often plant their crops on national forest land and have even been known to booby-trap plots with explosives and rattlesnakes.
"Like any poor county, people are engaged in a variety of revenue sources," she said. "Not all of them legal."
Army retiree George Robinson did door-to-door census work in Clay County in 2000. No one ever threatened him, but some people questioned why the government needed to know some of the information, especially income, requested on the census form."
Of course this goes much deep in print than Maddow did with her own cable show. In any case, have a great morning. It looks like another beauty in NYC except for that damn UN traffic.
There ARE other facilities, so I would say Debka and a few alternative news sources branded as loonie by the denialists are often correct and that Iran is likely ready for the bomb. Only a South African disclosure can now defuse the situation.
Just looked over last nights posts and saw Rez' remarks to the effect that no HCR and no drawdown = no vote. I agree.
It seems as if Safire's "nattering nabobs of negativism" have infected and paralyzed Democrats and are keeping them from doing what their mandate directed them to do.
And, all of that is a helluva lot more important than Mrs Palin.
"Even if she loses, it will be good for her career"
nash, both palin and huckabee have an opportunity (and imo a not so secret desire) for noteworthy media careers and not necessarily of a political nature.
Surg, I have questions about building all the time. What cabinets are you using? Do you attach the undermount sink to the counter or frame out the top area of the base cabinet? Those are just two.
For the executive? How's that carbon sequestration going? When will coal liquification become affordable?
undermount sinks usually mounted and secured to stone and synthetic counter tops.....formica is gone with the wind as i said earlier....heavy ones may require blocking under......."farmhouse" sinks rest on shelving under sink......said shelving allowing for plumbing........
I build and install the cabinets......."euro" frameless mostly with grass hidden hinges and blum undermount soft-close drawer slides.........
patd: Yes, Palin and Huckabee could just do media careers but why shouldn't both of them run? It boosts their market value.
Also, I think both have been bitten by the ambition bug. Once you realize that you might actually have a shot at being President, and Palin came close, it's hard to walk away.
Obama himself has repeatedly stated his motive is not to change the system but lower cost and cover the uninsured. I am not sure what mandate you're talking about. It certainly wasn't Moore's mantra that capitalism is evil and an enemey of Democracy that got Obama elected. For the record, Mossad seems to have bettered our Intel and that is more important than Palin too.
Sounds cool. I'll have to give you my website. I find my base cabinets are just a tad bigger than my undermounts so it is easy to add some framing and use the base to hold sink rather than drill holes into granite and clip against gravity.
I'm putting in some Armstrong cabinets next month. Kritt were the nicest I ever installed, but one could have bought a car with what they cost my client. I bet you do nice work Sturg. I wish I was working for a coal executive. I wouldn't have to give him my usual "I know you can't afford it" discount.
Never use formica or Corian these days. Stainless, granite, slate, marble, quartz are my likes. I would love to try the concrete epoxy counters as they seem strong, cheap and cool looking. Have you done any like that?
Flatus, that would whatever they imagine he said. I am sure AIPAC thinks he said one thing and KOS thinks he said another. The sad and unvetted truth is that he said both.
Yeah but your jokes involve other things she was mocked about. I was angry about that, but she has a long way to go before I can forget the sound of her meandering diction. I suspect you would like her to run because she would lose. On the other hand, the GOP hasn't come up with anything more newsworthy yet.
Let's see how far her make-over goes, but I bet she emulates a bit of the women you described in your neck of the woods. There is certainly some charm in that.....
Work does call today........have a good one you all.
Here's my prediction, and it's something Keith and Howard Fineman talked about last night: I think a public option will come out of the house, the senate will NOT pass a bill with it, but it'll re-emerge in conference. I really think the admin has a handle on this.. and everything else.
Here's what happens every day, I'll use Jimmy Carter's interview as an example. I saw Carter's interview the evening he gave it. He SAID that the extremism that was exhibited at town halls had deep seeded roots in racism. He did NOT say that all criticism was rooted in racism. He was TALKING about what we were all talking about: those idjits carrying guns, talking about death panels, screaming that they "want their country back" -- now what country exactly DO they want back? 40 years ago?? Now what are the talking heads going on about? That Jimmy Carter called everyone who disagrees with policy a racist. He DIDN'T say anything of the kind, but THAT's what they're all saying. Even when you've seen the original interview with your own eyes, they start in on revisionist history!!
it should be single payer.......but public option will pass after they make a big deal about how tough it will be to get it and how hard they will have to fight for it........all a ruse.......
"....what are the talking heads going on about? That Jimmy Carter called everyone who disagrees with policy a racist. He DIDN'T say anything of the kind, but THAT's what they're all saying."
ty, you are so right. and then we get bogged down in quibbling, distracted from the important issues as flatus and corey pointed out. it's as tho' we are puppets, dancing on msm strings and mouthing pre-set dialogue.
Sorry, and one more thing... the only people who think Obama might be over-exposed these days are people like us.. who have a newschannel on in the background a LOT of the day. If you aren't a political junkie, chances are you've barely seen Obama. Even doing the Sunday morning blitz, (have you SEEN the ratings for Sunday morning shows??? they're terrible. People are either having brunch or sleeping!) didn't overexpose Obama.
Sturg, your email adress? Nice photos of cabinet work. Do you make them yourself and did you design all that work?
I'm telling you guys, collectively we could really build something great. How about an early retirement facility for Beck, Hannity and Rush? Who here is into metal work as we will undoubtedly need some bars......
You might be right about the public option, but it lowers expectations a notch in 2010. Given the poll numbers, not a great call........
Agreed, if you want real health care WITH choice and lower premiums, single payer is the way to go, but that'll never get passed. Actually, our system is NOT exclusively single payer. Many employees have mutual-payer benefits (although you'll find that most of these healthcare benefits are ADDED to a bottom-line healthcare program that everyone is part of). Don't know if I've explained this well, but... everyone pays into taxes which fund a basic healthcare program..then if you work at a company that has extra healthcare (eyeglasses, dental, etc) then it is a co-pay situation.
Welcome Tomas, Stick around. It's a pretty good group in here. We had fun with Hegel on the last thread. Monty Python is real big in this little house.
That idea could be fun. The President has his "real people" on his blackberry. Craig has us. It would be fun to hear Craig take a "phone break" in the middle of the show to call Patsi, Lard, or Reb for a few choice words on the subject under discussion.
What other political site has Construction, plumbing, agriculture tips, solar ovens, boating, fishing, candy making, and AP courses in history,, geology, geography, archeology etc. etc. etc. .....
"Why should Jax's tax dollars go to help Atlanta ? What has Atlanta ever done for Jax"
cbob, sturge, jax's tax dollars have been affected by georgia for years by what they send down the rivers, wrecking one of the finest seafood producing areas of the country. florida-georgia lawsuit fight over is about as bad and long lived as the "bleak house" case.
Saw the earlier posts on reasons to love Craig.
I love him because he's so fair and logical. Because he says what he thinks, whether is popular or not. I don't even have to agree with what he says, as long as it's true in his mind and said with sincerity. Best of all: he's not afraid to change his mind.
It would be way too simple to just open up Medicare to anyone who wanted to buy in. How would the Congress Critters looks as if they actually worked for a living?
Ty... great posts this morning....
but if the msm reported on what Carter actually said it would make too much sense.... the point is to get people riled up in order to increase ratings....
nothing riles up like a good made-up fairy tale....
and even though I am a political junkie.... I gave up Sunday morning shows about 3 years ago.... sleeping in and brunch..... YUM!
Nash.... I want a mooseburger.... and I want it NOW...
craig, would breaking up our longer posts in to several bite-size pieces help? are you being assessed on the number of hits/comments? does quantity trump quality? do some cites/links cause problems or enhance tm standing?
here ya go Corey:
US, UK, French heads demand Iran nuke site opened
"Armed with the disclosure of a secret Iranian nuclear facility, President Barack Obama and the leaders of France and Britain demanded Friday that Tehran fully disclose its nuclear ambitions "or be held accountable" to an impatient world community.
It is actually the same here with Medicare. There are wrap around and supplemental policies for costs above co pays, dental etc.
It wouldn't put the insurance companies out of business to go single payer. In fact they would probably end up making more by having additional policy holders for the extras and add ons without having to pay out as much.
At 1:00-pm Eastern today:
Hillary Clinton, United States Secretary of State, will deliver the keynote address, and President Bill Clinton will share closing remarks.
WE'RE SAFE UNDER OBAMA!
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The FBI foiled at least 2 plots. This is under the OBAMA ADMINISTRATION. This is WITHOUT all those freakin' SCARE tactics to the US public.
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So to those gun toten, hysterical conservatives....what do you have to say now?
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"FBI: Bomb plot targeting Dallas skyscraper foiled"
. http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent ... 21aef.html
Shhh don't tell Max, but I actually agreed with him last night that Rachel seemed to be reaching for "anti government" without enough substance other than the the word "Fed", but she may have been filling in with the absence of any real info other than that or the drug growth trail.
Here is what little is given out by the police on the case so far.
1897 William Faulkner Mississippi, author (Sound & the Fury-Nobel 1949)
1931 Barbara Walters Boston Mass, newscaster (Today, 20/20, ABC-TV)
1936 Juliet Prowse Bombay India, actress/dancer (Who Killed Teddy Bear)
1943 John Locke LA, rocker (Spirit-I Got A Line on You)
1944 Michael Douglas NJ, actor (Coma, Wall St, Jewel of the Nile)
1951 Mark Hamill Oakland Calif, actor (Star Wars)
1952 Christopher Reeve actor (Superman)
1493 Columbus sails on 2nd voyage to America
1513 Vasco Nu§ez de Balboa is the 1st European to see the Pacific Ocean
1639 1st printing press in America
1775 American Revolutionary War hero Ethan Allen captured
1789 Congress proposes Bill of Rights (10 of 12 will ratify)
1804 12th amendment to the US constitution, regulating judicial power
1861 Secretary of US Navy authorizes enlistment of slaves
1890 Congress establishes Yosemite National Park (Calif)
1911 Ground breaking begins in Boston for Fenway Park
1919 Pres Wilson becomes seriously ill & collapses after a speech
1924 Malcolm Campbell sets world auto speed record at 146.16 MPH
1926 Henry Ford announces the 8 hour, 5-day work week
1939 Versailles Peace Treaty forgot to include Andorra, so Andorra & Germany finally sign an official treaty ending WW I
1957 300 US Army troops guard 9 black kids return to Central HS in Ark
1962 A black church is destroyed by fire in Macon Georgia
1981 Sandra Day O'Connor sworn in as 1st female supreme court justice
1986 Antonin Scalia appointed to the Supreme Court
1990 Saddam Hussein warns US will repeat Vietnam experience
tylenol, that's part of my point.
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C-Bob, I've kept up with Texas TEA (Texas Education Agency) not tea, as in tea baggers but similar...very similar
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They're wantin' to rewrite the social studies curriculum to exclude liberals like Ceser Chavez. Oh and wantin' to include Intelligent Design into the science curriculum.
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Intelligent Design by any other name = creationism.
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Yep, this is the belt buckle, alright.
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So if they include religion into schools, I want Evolution included in every church and Sunday school class.
Tweetie came up with a good one a couple of days ago that had Joan Walsh figuratively shaking her head on twitter. He closed out with her by saying about her comment on a politician, "That's okay he can take a punch from a woman."
For a very bright man, his mouth sure can flap without the brain attached.
if kinky gets elected gov (god, allah and whoeverelse willing), bet the first action by tex school brd will be to ban his pix from school walls and not allow students to hear the inaugural address for fear that whatever's left of their little minds will be stimulated to think.
Flatus--if it is Clay Co. KY--they are--or at one time were--one of the poorest counties in the state, fallout from a feud that involved four families, had the body count of a small war and made the Hatfields and McCoys look positively prim and proper. The feud lasted from the eighteen-forties to the end of WWII, ending when most of the young people moved away to find jobs in the north; businesses for many years wouldn't locate there.
The revenuer idea is a distinct possibility too. "The people who might fear getting caught" referenced in the article Max quoted are, as here, most likely cookin' meth these days, though.
I have to admit that when I initially read about it here on this blog.... my first thought was the census worker must be black.... just goes to show how wrong our first reactions can be without getting any facts....
Posted by: maxtrue | September 25, 2009 8:16 AM : "As I had been arguing for some time, Iran has facilities off our radar. One of these facilities has been revealed by Iran: http://www.rr.com/news/topic/article/rr/9000/9031525/Officials_tell_AP_Iran_has_second_enrichment_plant
There ARE other facilities, so I would say Debka and a few alternative news sources branded as loonie by the denialists are often correct and that Iran is likely ready for the bomb. "
I don't remember anyone ever denying that there were secret nuclear facilities in Iran - except the Iranians. Several people have said that they have found no evidence, but that is not the same as denial. Anyway, who else are you talking about ?
One of the problems with debka is that they called for immediate attacks on Irans nuclear facilities 1 1/2 years ago, if not earlier. Had anyone attacked then, today we would be living in a fool's paradise, thinking that the correct plant(s) had been destroyed. One can't just willy nilly attack an enemy without having a rough estimate of their strength, order of battle, & positions.
That is only one of the problems with debka. Another is their refusal to name sources, and a third is that they have a horrible track record for publishing assertions that turn out to be exaggerated or downright false.
corey posted "Iran is enriching uranium and we are talking about Palin." Exactly. She is the GOP's piece of yarn & we are easily-distracted kitty cats.
Posted by: Nash2.0 | September 25, 2009 8:42 AM :
"maxtrue: Plain was unfairly mocked. You actually can see Russia from Alaska's far western Aleutian islands. Like I said, she just needs good handlers. Bush had Rove."
The people of Little Diomede (US) and Big Diomede (russia) Islands are related by descent and marriage. They canoed back forth all through the Cold War w/o the benefit of customs searches and Intelligence Community Inquisitions.
The islands are only a few miles apart - much closer than Cuba has ever been. However, Sarah Palin's home is several hundred miles from Little Diomede, and cannot quite be seen through all the trees and mountains that sit between the two and refuse to budge.
One of the oddest facts about the Diomedes back in the 60s were our leftists trying to go to Russia. Their soldiers would just toss them back to the US side of the line.
max - The point of the Russia statement is that she brought it up when questioned about her foreign policy experience. She can't think on her feet. That's nothing a person can be "handled" out of...and being the GOPs spokesmodel doesn't give her real foreign policy experience, either.
Now, what are we gonna do about health care, the wars, the economy...?
"craig, would breaking up our longer posts in to several bite-size pieces help? are you being assessed on the number of hits/comments? does quantity trump quality? do some cites/links cause problems or enhance tm standing? -- Posted by: patd"
patd -- none of that need to worry about as far as TM standing. we're in very good shape as is. but i do think super long comments simply aren't read as widely as shorter ones, but that's just a matter of my suggestion for helping commenters be heard.
1. She yammered boustrophedon for 80 minutes to an almost entirely male audience of Chicommies who only attended to get her autograph on the picture of her in the US flag bathing suit, cradling the squirtgun.
2. She once heard that the russia lay a couple of miles off of Little Diomed Island. She picked up the thesaurus to see if she could find a map of Little Diomede.
3. Her former almost son-in-law once picked up a Peruvian hooker in downtown Anchorage.
4. Ketchikan and Sitka have lots of ethnic russians, whose ancestors have been in Alaska for 150 years or more.
5. During the last ice age, thousands of russians crossed the land bridge and invaded America through Alaska. Fortunately, Christopher Columbus and George Washington fought them off by land and by sea, and Americans won a great battle in the snow at Valley Forge, thanks to the Pilgrim Fathers.
Maxtrue,
The report I read said that the 'secret' nuclear operation is near Qom. Do we know how close ? Is it close enough for a 2-fer ?
Accidents can happen. I mean, look a Chernobyl. It took out a city, made the richest farmland in the soviet union - the size of Iowa - unuseable, cut off electricity to millions of people, made at least a half million people homeless and unemployed, and destroyed the faith 300,000,000 slaves had in their masters.
How long do you think Achmedinajad and Khameni would last if there was a nuclear accident that wiped out Qom ?
Jamie -
I'll get back to you on that one.
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Posted by: tylenol | September 25, 2009 11:45 AM : "and all without an orange alert!!"
Mr. Tylenol,
I'd almost begun to believe that Orange Alert was a little town by the airport. Several times a week, I pass a couple of signs while going past the airport, and again while coming back. Those signs have been there for 7 years now, and I really doubt that they have the capability of changing the color of the alert. I figured the babybushcheney WH would want to keep us in a state of fear just short of panic in perpetuity, which is a fairly long gig.
Of course, the big terrorism bust at the airport was Senator larry craig's toe-tapping messages, "Have gun. Will travel." And, "This is a 44 Magnum [22 short, to tell the truth] , the most powerful gun in the world. Feeling lucky ?"
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com | September 25, 2009 2:31 PM :
"He's at cross purposes with media. He is trying to do a job and they are trying to get ratings.
Unfortunately, the two goals have little in common"
This is the most succinct and clear analysis of the present ugly state of things that I have come across. It deserves the coveted 'Atta Girl medal, if you ask me.
rats... I didn't know Hillary was speaking anywhere today until I read this here blog.... I missed it....
well.... at least my house is clean enough for my little get together with friends tonight....
"Democrats Are Jarred by Drop In Fundraising
Complacency, Absence of Big Donors Cited"
Wow, they can cite anything they like. But, I'm certain sure that people don't contribute if they think they're getting screwed by the person asking for the contribution.
Obama overexposed? That's why I don't follow all the news shows too much. As a comedian once said: "My friends are always asking me, "Did you see what Bush said today? How could you miss that?!" He'd say, "I don't know. I guess I got more channels than you do, dude." But, that's America. People can choose to be as informed or mis-informed as they wanna be. It's just that the mis-informed people are speaking up quite a bit these days.
Dashing through the bill
in a one horse little town
O'er the fields we go
laughing at Michelle's gown
bells on toes will ring
making spirits bright
what fun it is to laugh and sing
on single payer night
" fun to hear Craig take a "phone break" in the middle of the show to call Patsi, Lard, or Reb for a few choice words on the subject under discussion."
Not me, Jamie -- my language would get Craig kicked off....
I checked out the Rotary site. It looks like a good project for any Rotary chapter as well as private donations.
You've used Maria. How practical would it be someday to have a solar over in a household (adjustment of temperatures, backing surfaces etc) in place of those powered by fossile fuels.
Just watched one of those phony "citizens for blah blah" commercials funded by the insurance companies. If it weren't my TV I would have thrown something through the screen:
Tell the President you don't want his public option. Tell the President you don't want government control of your health. The President's Public option COULD LEAD to (list horrors here).
There really should be something illegal about corporations being considered people with free speech. Or here's a bright idea, a network with enough ethics to refuse to run this dishonest crud without full disclosure as to the source of the money.
Going forward, Trail Mixers. Some really cool stuff is ahead for us as our new CQ-RollCall-TheEconomist platform unfolds across the next several months. For starters, take a look at the citizen advocacy tools on Roll Call's evolving public site (url below) and begin to think about how we integrate them into our little corner of the internets. I'd like to take our established community to another level, to a place where we not only share our views with each other, but provide ways for you to lobby lawmakers and make a real difference, no matter where on the spectrum your opinions fall.
"I'd like to take our established community to another level, to a place where we not only share our views with each other, but provide ways for you to lobby lawmakers and make a real difference, no matter where on the spectrum your opinions fall."
If it is credibility you seek - avoid calling out your opponent for deceitfulness. Never forget, but once you get into a tit-fot-tat - the rest of what you say will be taken with a grain of salt.
You just build it in a south facing wall, but that means your house is doing a butt load more than just baking brownies. It'd dry clothes as well with the right design. Heat the house .
They knew how to shoot straigt in the 30's and 50's!! Funny how we think of that a such conservative time - yet you watch the movies and all the girls are cursin and smokin up a storm! Don't strike me as delicate flowers baking behind the proverbial white picket fence.
"Are you sure you want to unleash this crowd on the world? I don't know of a politician anywhere who would want this crowd for a town hall.audience :-)
-- Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com "
Jamie, i've never been so sure of anything? they deserve it.
Finally some scientific proof that the Iranian election was a fraud. The question is why this wasn't caught earlier.
I see Ahmadinjad says the West will regret Obama's accusation today. I note that there has already been identification by MEK of a warhead design facility several months ago and now two more sites cited last week involved in detonation systems. Of course, the ISraeli Press leaked some info on Iran prepping a test site. Now we see that Obama was quite restrained knowing this as I suspect from his daily briefings. If he can swing this around and take on Iran with more support than China and Russia was willing to give, Bush,,kudos.
I hope Brezinski feels like a fool. I know he was due on TV, but I think I missed it.
New York Press was rather impressed with Netanyahu. While I do not know what goes on behind back doors, I can only hope it is as smart, determined and well executed as the Cuban Missile Crisis.This is a fascinating read if you haven't the fortune to look at it yet:
-perhaps the best stuff on the subject. I wonder if Craig can draw any similarities between the dark shuffling now compared to back in 62. There sure as hell more players now and more Press which Kennedy had some issues with.
So Ahmadinejackass says he "does not need to tell the Obama administration where every secret Iranian facility is".
He certainly isn't going to out debate Obama on that question. Try again.......
Did you all hear Akmadeenajad say it doesn't matter what Sarkozi and Brown said.
Ha! That musta stung. Those comments were, in part, preciptated by the fact that those two took a harder line and used deadlines - but still. Not all the rags will pick up that nuance.
Now you want to hear something crazier? Ahmadinejad is going to be on Larry King tonight at 9 pm. WTF? I hope there was some ambush like Hillary replacing Larry for the evening. If King softballs it, it would be a professional disgrace.
Well Moore will be on CNN tonight plugging his movie. I wonder if anyone will ask him who funded his movie. How about the very people he bashes.....
Clinton changes his mind on same sex marriage. Is he campaigning to outflank Obama? Interesting situation.
That is what bugs me about Mika. When it is real news and neither Joe or her father is around, she is very, very good. As soon as the bullying power figures enter the picture, here comes either the little girl giggle or the frowning mommy.
He already said that to Keith Olbermann. As soon as either his sponsors or Keiths thought that people were actually demanding action, the money would stop flowing.
You might not agree with him, but he is honest about what he believes and how he gets his message out.
Well, Warren, many here in the US said it appeared that Ahmadinejad won. No serious proof has been offered to date. If Ki-Moon can tell Honduras when a "fair" election will take place, why has the UN rubber stamped Iran's election?
I would think you would say that my claims last summer were correct and all of you trying to explain that it would take years for Iran to get a nuke and delivery system were wrong. Seems my sources were more accurate than your sources. During this time you thought there was no grave risk, sanctions were labeled more neocon crap. We did nothing. Yep, I did say the NEI report in 2007 was wrong, but there are still other secret facilites and a global network of operatives. Wishing won't make this go away.
Well anyway, I have lots of suggestions regarding Iran but the one that counts comes from Obama.
You ought to guess what the next smart move is. Netanyahu's speech lays down the reasoning for the stick as does Obama's latest order of super bunker busters. Add some international unity and perhaps we can get a blink before something harsher.
We have been through three or four moves now and for the most part the group has hung together without too much loss of identity. Of course we all had to hang together to toss out the drunks and disorderlies, so you may have to work just a bit harder for a while until the lurkers get the idea and join in the fun with instructions to play nice (most of the time).
As long as they don't take away our You tube all should be well.
I don't see him as so honest Jamie. Even Colbert stumped him with capitalism defeating the Soviets. His world is one of exaggeration, though no doubt there are many things wrong he explores.
Thanks Sturg. Again, nice work. You either have an eye for detail for you don't. You sound like you are in great shape. I ice elbows as a precaution these days. Doc says builders are prone to golfer's elbow.
Ain't that funny......I don't golf. Well, I'm a crappy putter.
for the Bloggers, the Take This Tune prompt is up for next week and it is our diva Dinah Washington singing September in the Rain. Pull out your free association pens and start writing.
"You ought to guess what the next smart move is. Netanyahu's speech lays down the reasoning for the stick as does Obama's latest order of super bunker busters. Add some international unity and perhaps we can get a blink before something harsher."
Knowing that max - perhaps Mahmoud will make a smart move and act responsibly instead of sacrificing many lives so that he can become the next Saddam (or a martyr of sorts).
Honesty and knowing the whole history of a subject are two different things. Heck thousands listen to Beck and he isn't honest and he is ignorant.
In any case he seems to have sorted his thoughts on the subject since, because I heard him talking today about the capitalism of small business and honest dealing vs the rampant greed of Corporate welfare.
Not in his mindset Warren and he is on a string. Don't be fooled because he knows he is on TV. Just review his statements and the activity of his government.
Sturg, pics sent. It was a long day and my eyes are punchy......
Moore is funny on CNN. I wonder if Moore believes merit has any meaning.
He laments no one is watching Obama's back, but Moore has taken some hard shots at Obama and so are his friends. Moore thinks capitalism used to be gentler and kinder. I guess he never read Zinn's History of the United States. Standard Oil was a great one and the railroads were a great chapter in capitalism?
Deceitful? I guess I missed that. Oh you mean calling Ahmadinejad deceitful? He has been caught many times. We caught his illegal arms months ago. His defense minister murdered Jews in South America. He was caught in NY trying to import banned items from China. He said nothing as people are raping into confessing. He is far more than deceitful.
Obama was quite honest today. In some aspects, He has more Intel. He released this news because he knew Iran had discovered they had been discovered.
It seems that Rachel wasn't reaching quite so far last night in the Sparkman death. More news now about his census id card taped to his neck among other items indicating some possible anti government. FBI now involved.
I'madinnerjacket is unencumbered by the needs to speak the truth. Larry King had Hugo Chavez on the other night -the pauses of the translator were pretty funny.
Rachel is on fire tonight. She is naming all the government contractors who would have to be "defunded" if the Republicans "Acorn" law goes through. They might want to rethink their wording.
I wouldn't worry too much about group speak. There are some pretty iron-willed posters on this blog - and there are always a few dissenting voices around too.
Rare is the case that we all sit around and sing kum-ba-ya
Palin's future. I don't see any difference between Palin and the Huckster -he has a tiny bit more of a veneer of rational thinking but underneath --whack job.
kgc & Jamie, A first for me. :-) I relate to it well.
Reminds me of some of my old (tribal) classmates. I had a good Lakota friend who use to always complain about his tribal chairman, Webster Two Hawk. He always referred to him as Webster Double Talk.
Or there was our native student president Ed Monetauchi. A Comanche guy we use to tease b/c he fought every idea on how to spend our funds. Henceforth, he became Ed Touchy Money. He hated a few of us.
Means nothing. How many times were the inspectors allowed in the North Korean facilities, and how many times were cameras installed and equipment sealed?
Did he answer the question Warren? He suggested the US murdered Nada as he implied the US had murdered a woman in the staging of the coup attempt on Chavez. As for WW2, let historians freely debate the issue and form a fair consensus? Fuck him. "Lot's of people died and we should have sympathy for all of them".
As far as the secret facility, why did he disclose it hours before Obama's disclosure? Why is the facility on a military base? How about the other facilities and his claim Obama does not need to know every secret facility? (three other sites I have mentioned here 1. warhead plant with North Korean compounds 2. detonator design and 3. detonator production -all disclosed by MEK) What about his spititual advisor blessing the rape of prisoners to gain confessions? Rape of men and women alike. He compared that to the protests in Pittsburg and the murder every day in our prisons. This was a reasonable man? You make him seem more sensibile than Beck or Hannity.
This was an unbalanced man forgetting he was on US TV after his first statement which he considered his most important. There is more that we and Israel have on Iran. He insulted Sarkozy, made fun of Blair and Bush and lectured Obama. He said the size of the protest seen on cell phones was because the majority was out in the street defending the regime. What idiot believes this? I posted statistical analysis that refutes the absurd answer he had on the ballots.
He could have been clever. Instead, he was poorly acting, pitted against the elderly. You should see his look when Time ambushed him in the morning. That's the smirk we so admire.
King: Are you confident?
Ahamadinejad: Of what?
He laughed at the mere thought of Israel attacking Iran. A great and powerful nation doesn't worry about a smaller one attacking it.
King: they could take out most of your facilities.
Ahmadinejad: They would regret that after our response.
"Thank you Mr. President, it was nice having you here"? Did Larry really say that? What a lame interview. Why not just let him have 30 minutes of airtime. That would be better. Really a bad showing. Now tell me, wouldn't it have been better with O'Reilly, Colbert or even Anderson? This was embarrassing.
About the only inspection that would work is South African style. He will NEVER do that.
And for all you not certain of the deeper game: Netanyahu had the same Intel. He let Obama release it instead of using even more evidence to refute the IAEA latest watered down report. I suspect there is an agreement not to release more Intel as those facilities are presently targets in a simulation.
One scenario is Obama to wait until those super bunker busters are available next July. He can then dump a ream of Intel including the final prep to a test site. Until then his moves will be far more measured. I sense Hillary in the background. She may lead our one and only attempt to "talk". There is unfortunately a clock ticking........
Iranians are fairly clever. Obama is doing a rather difficult dance.
I did not say Ahmadinejad had a strong case on any front. He is grasping at straws re: Nada and disclosure of the base.
But it is clear that he is just trying to deflect attention from the gaping holes in his position - which - again - is still the rational thing to do.
Now the resfusal to acknowledge the Holocaust - I suspect is some badge of honor in the Muslim world - but he was very careful not to outright deny it. A horrible thing indeed - but there is a horrible relationship between many Muslims and Jews in the Middle East.
And there is something to the point he kept coming back to. Now of course it is no direct answer to Larry's Question - but I do agree that it is more constructive to focus our attention on how to sort out the - current - Israeli-Palestinian problem rather than debate the past.
And don't take my point for more than it is. I am simply pleased that he did not come on, thumb his nose and say Iran is going to build a bomb no matter what the world says.
And my point is relative - as I am comparing him to Saddam or Kim Jon.
I've got to wonder if there isn't a strong tug-of-war going on in Iran between politicians and the clergy. A lot of clergy don't want leaders involved in politics. A mix we've learned here in the US that doesn't mix well.
The clergy is clearly against nuclear weapons, the more ambitious political group would like weapons as a club.
Ahmadinejad is a true believer, but has the leverage of being a big fish in a small pond. Just a pond the US has chosen to focus on and make larger than life.
Add in an unhappy population and the threat of more sanctions making every day life more miserable and this could be an interesting struggle.
In the meantime, Olmert goes on trial again showcasing one on the most corrupt governments in the world. I still can't believe the participation of Israeli politicians in corruption and the slave trade.
I'm hoping to get back to DC soon and look into the efforts of J-Street. Maybe there is hope of a true change in the status quo. So far it's been like Turkey. Ecevet and Demeril, back and forth with no real change.
I think Obama is the only chance for a successful dialogue. It seems Mahmoud has some level of respect for him. Perhaps he has no respect for Obama - but simply fears Obama's powers of persuasion on the world stage (unlike W).
Plus, I wonder what Iranian leaders think of Clinton given their treatment of women in that Country...
I certainly hope you don't stay on that "Middle Easterners wouldn't respect a woman" meme that some of the Obama crowd tried to fly during the primaries, Warren...
BIG CREEK, Ky. — A part-time census worker found hanging in a rural Kentucky cemetery was naked, gagged and had his hands and feet bound with duct tape, said an Ohio man who discovered the body two weeks ago.
The word "fed" was written in felt-tip pen on 51-year-old Bill Sparkman's chest, but authorities have released very few other details in the case, such as whether they think it was an accident, suicide or homicide.
"He was murdered," Weaver said. "There's no doubt."
"The only thing he had on was a pair of socks," Weaver said. "And they had duct-taped his hands, his wrists. He had duct tape over his eyes, and they gagged him with a red rag or something."
friend of mine's daughter came in and did the mustanga sally for us tonight......halfa moon......you can hear her sing on rilogenes' youtube channel.....joe and anne........i was just happy that mustang sally had some cachet.......gosh....ya never know..................will you still love me tomorrow?
Just saw a Fox News update re: the super "secret" underground nuclear facility in Iran. Breaking news - just announced today - and they immediately cut to footage of a "facility."
(I don't know if it was stock footage or we already got a camera crew roaming around the "secret" facility.)
OK - this is the problem with Glenn Beck and the way he can stir people up.
Now he is just shooting the shit with this Frank Luntz focus group and asks - how many think the US Dollar will not exist in 5 years? Now you could probably count on one hand the number of people that did not raise their hand. Even Beck was surprised. But of course he didn't say anything.
That is why you cannot argue with these people. (Or should I say you can not argue "this way.")
You are right Beck. I cannot tell you with absolute certainty that the dollar will not disappear off the face of Earth in five years. There could be a chain of worst case scenarios or an E.L.E.
But worrying about czars, indoctrination or death panels is not helping us solve any of the practical problems that surround us today.
Now if they actually spent this show talking about the dollar and fiscal responsibility at any length - that one be one thing. But instead it is filled with gasps, raised eyebrows and shouts of "give us our Country back."
You know - the other day - I thought about how Hillary would be perfectly set up to run after 8 years of Obama.
She can run as the elder stateswoman. She will be younger than McCain was - and can say "after letting these young bucks like Bill, George and Barack run the Country - it is time to hand it over the reigns to a wise old lady that actually knows what she's doing."
Do you think the ruling elite in the Middle East seeks to keep the population in the dark ages - because they would rather sell their oil to the West at far greater prices.
I don't know the specifics of how you make sure that a nuclear energy program is different from a nuclear weapons program - but there is a valid interest in these countries searching for energy. Regardless of the amount of oil they are sitting on.
Hannity is much more like A Current Affair or Extra than a news show. He is like the View of prime time. In a day with all the news from the G-20 - he leads with the mmm mmm mmm Obama song.
Damn those Democrats indoctrinating those kids with all that dogma like "equal pay for equal work"!!
craig, hope this new tm world doesn't include cams on the computer. might take away the heft of our profundities if we're seen in holey robes and fuzzy slippers and, in jamies case, a kitten on one's head.
I understand your point Warren, but I am not sure a shrink would say Ahmadinejad is playing with a full deck. It is rather funny that some question the GOP sanity in regard for their taste for creationism. Ahmadinejad's belief system strains the concept of rationality. I never said Ahmadinejad wasn't clever at times, just that he is rationally and thus morally impaired.
Patd, so true about the woman thing which gives me hope that perhaps Obama will have Hillary lead the "talking" team as they now try to establish some pre-conditions.
Methinks Ahmadinejad's appearances are for his domestic audience. It positions the Iranian people as protectors of the fate in a world determined to destroy Islam.
That's a Moore mantra Warren. The concept of merit is replaced by the timecard and the Federal Book of pay grade. I rather suspect stock holder have some responsibility that their CEO sometimes make 500 times what the stock room dude makes. Americans need to ask themselves what personal responsibility we have and I rather doubt you would merely laugh watching kindergardners sing the mantras of Bush or even Reagan.
My liberal education informed me to resist efforts of indoctrination and conformity. Has something changed?
I thought Laird a misspelling of Lard and that would be confusing....
Yeah, I think the first statement was for Americans and the rest for Iranian domestic consumption. The stuff about Nada and the Jews was quite irrational. I see the same stuff when Chavez was questioned by Fox's producer. Chavez deflected to Bush the nazi when asked about Ahmadinejads comments.
"BERLIN — German political parties held their final campaign rallies before Sunday's national election, mindful of new warnings by Islamic militants that they would exact retribution for the country's presence in Afghanistan.
Two threatening videos surfaced Friday — one by al-Qaida and another by the Taliban — showing video of top German landmarks like the Brandenburg Gate in Berlin and Munich's world-renowned Oktoberfest."
Of course the Times stopped just short of finishing what Ahmadinejad said about Nada. He connected it to the coup against Chavez.
The times is certainly incomplete in this review leaving out remarks on Sarkozy, raping, comparing Pittsburg to Iranian protests,ballots etc. I wonder if CNN puts out the whole tape though reruns on cable are likely to follow.
History about the secret enrichment plant, but note there are other facilities that have been identified which have been strangely excluded from all the media coverage AND THE WH.
In that case there are times when I should look at the wall as well.
She does like to flick her tail around, so the birthers, earthers, tenthers, and other logically deficient types wouldn't need to draw a mustache on me as I'm already equipped.
That Estrich column is perfect. I got turned off of Edwards after reading a judgment of him by someone who had worked with him years ago who said that he should wear a button that read, "Have I told you about my dead son?"
That habit of using others tragedy was there at the beginning. The willingness to use his wife's cancer, his mistress, his campaign staff etc was no surprise.
I doubt he has any capacity for remorse so the biggest favor he could do the rest of us is never be heard from again.
*Sashays into the room to prove she is indeed a Ms.*
Changes at CQ? ohh like the Republicans, I'm not sure I like the sound of 'change.'
Great posts in the past 24 hours! I am convinced that nothing, ABSOLUTELY nothing is unplanned with this Administration. Obama announces a pullback of unproven starwars plan, Russians are appeased, new nuke facility found in Iran, Russians are suddenly concerned about Iran.
So, I have decided that before I comment on any given event on any given day, I shall refrain until about a week after, in order to SEE the forest for the trees, This is indeed a very smart admin, I'm going to start giving them the benefit of the doubt.
1888 T.S. Eliot St Louis poet/dramatist/critic (Waste Land-Nobel 1948)
1895 Fay Holden Birmingham England, actress (Mother-Andy Hardy films)
1898 George Gershwin [Jacob Gershvin] Bkln NY, composer (Rhapsody in Blue)
1902 Albert Anastasia head of Murder Inc
1914 Jack LaLanne exercise mogul
1925 Marty Robbins Glendale Az, singer (Devil Woman, I Walk Alone)
1926 Julie London Santa Rosa Calif, actress (Nurse McCall-Emergency)
1927 Patrick O'Neal Ocala Fla, actor (Kaz, Alvarez Kelly, King Rat)
1933 Donna Douglas [Dot Smith], Pride La, actress (Beverly Hillbillies)
Deaths which occurred on September 26:
1820 Daniel Boone frontiersman, dies in Missouri at 85
1687 Parthenon destroyed in war between Turks & Venetians
1777 British troops occupy Philadelphia during the American Revolution
1789 Jefferson appointed 1st Sec of State; John Jay 1st chief justice; Samuel Osgood 1st Postmaster & Edmund J Randolph 1st Attorney Genl
1892 1st public appearance of John Philip Sousa's band (NJ)
1914 Federal Trade Commission formed to regulate interstate commerce
1918 Meuse-Argonne offensive against Germany began during WW I
1950 Because of forest fire in Br Columbia, blue moon appears in England
1950 UN troops in Korean War recaptured South Korean capital of Seoul
1960 1st of 4 TV debates Nixon & Kennedy took place (Chicago)
1960 Longest speech in UN history (4 hrs, 29 mins, by Fidel Castro)
1962 TV comedy series "The Beverly Hillbillies" premiers on CBS
1973 Concorde flies from Washington DC to Paris in 3h33m
1984 Pres Reagan vetoes sanctions against South Africa
1986 Antonin Scalia becomes a Supreme Court Justice
1986 William Rehnquist becomes Chief Justice of the Supreme Court
1991 2 year experimental Biosphere 2 in Oracle Arizona begins
" Rhapsody in Blue is a musical composition by George Gershwin for solo piano and jazz band written in 1924, which combines elements of classical music with jazz-influenced effects. The composition was orchestrated by Ferde Grofé three times, in 1924, in 1926, and finally in 1946. The piece received its premiere in a concert entitled An Experiment in Modern Music, which was held on 12 February 1924, in Aeolian Hall, New York, by Paul Whiteman and his band with Gershwin playing the piano. The version for piano and symphonic orchestra, orchestrated by Ferde Grofé in 1942, has become one of the most popular American concert works. "
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patsi -- I was asked on twitter about CQ layoffs this week and responded. After the recent Economist/Roll Call purchase of CQ it was to be expected. Still, never easy to see friends and colleagues leaving. But there's gonna be some cool stuff ahead as CQ Politics and Roll Call's Congress.org get together for a new consumer politics site next year. TM is alive and well going forward as is -- so nobody needs to worry about that.
One of the bigger radio stations in the Montreal market just got bought by a media giant, who cleaned house last week. Scary stuff. Left most of us wondering how the soul survivor did it. We're thinking he has nekkid pictures of the station manager.
A new birther infomercial running on a CBS affiliate in Texas and elsewhere around the country tells viewers a "got a birth certificate?" bumper sticker can be theirs for the low price of $30.
As I explained in this post from about three years ago, I bought my first Mac because I was finally at a point in my life where I had enough money and computers were central enough to what I do, that I could afford to buy a really good personal computer. I'd been using PCs for about twenty years. But try as I might, I realized that I simply could not find a computer in the PC world that was well manufactured or worked very well. So out of pure desperation I bought a Mac to see if they were any better and I never looked back.
ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. - A rift widened between the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and some utilities as another major power provider quit over the business group's hard stance on pending climate regulation.
The Public Service Company of New Mexico, the state's largest utility, quit the chamber Friday just days after California's largest utility, Pacific Gas and Electric Co., said it was leaving because of the chamber's "extreme" positions.
This is a pretty good summary of what the majority of Israelis are now concluding. It speaks to the distance between rhetoric and closed door meetings. I rather doubt this looks like the record of such meetings during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
At the end of the day, if the result of US policy is a face-saving capitulation, history will not be kind, nor voters. We do want our politicians to be honest about what is fact and fiction. If we can't verifiy the veracity of rhetoric, we will hardly be able to verifiy compliance.
jamie, yours and estrich's comments on je made me think of the kaparot rituals this time of year. instead of waving a chicken three times around his head transferring his sins, he sacrifices wives and loyal aides.
Mitch McConnell is polling at an 18% approval rating. That's eighteen percent. John Boehner is polling at 12% approval rating. Just think about that one. And it doesn't take much to make him cry. Mitch and Boehner are viewed less favorably than Dick Cheney was during the dark days of the Bush administration. Why don't we hear about that on teevee?
yeah.... but.... CBob... I've heard that Boehner's tan is polling at 25% approval rating....
Dark Lord.... good for you.... Congrats!
John Chapman was born in Leominster Massachusetts.... the town right next door to where Barnicle and I were born. And the town in which Bowman works..... (where has he been lately?).... of course they have a mall, car dealerships, little stores, burgers, etc, etc, named Appleseed...
TAMPA, Florida (CNN) -- The sick men are Marines, or sons of Marines. All 20 of them were based at or lived at Camp Lejeune, the U.S. Marine Corps' training base in North Carolina, between the 1960s and the 1980s.
They all have had breast cancer, a disease that strikes fewer than 2,000 men in the United States a year, compared with about 200,000 women. Each has had part of his chest removed as part of his treatment, along with chemotherapy, radiation or both.
See my link above Joe. Of course, I understand the nature of secrecy but I can't help remembering the drubbing Obama gave Hillary over her lecture about "smart" diplomacy and being honesty to the American People. If what the Debka report says is true (they have a good track record), then this is not exactly the kind of secrecy, I think you had in mind.
Is it just irony that for more than a year Democrats have rejected sanctions and now when the topic comes forward, it is probably too late? Patd I believe posted a link some time back to FA that explained why this is being too late is so, unless sanctions are unusually harsh and more like an embargo. I repeat:
"Iran says the new facility won't be operational for 18 months so Iran has not violated any IAEA requirements.
A close aide to Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, however, said said Saturday that the Qom facility will be operational soon.
"This new facility, God willing, will become operational soon and will blind the eyes of the enemies," Mohammad Mohammadi Golpayegani told the semi-official Fars news agency. It is not clear if he meant less than 18 months.
Salehi said that by reporting the existence of the site voluntarily to the IAEA, Iran "pre-empted a conspiracy" against Tehran by the U.S. and its allies who were hoping to reveal the site as evidence that Iran was developing its nuclear program in secret.
"The Islamic Republic of Iran has foiled their planned conspiracy," he said.
Salehi said construction of the Qom facility was a "precautionary measure" to protect Iran's nuclear facilities from possible attacks.
"Given the threats we face every day, we are required to take the necessary precautionary measures, spread our facilities and protect our human assets. Therefore, the facility is to guarantee the continuation of our nuclear activities under any conditions," he told the television." AP (also note Ahmadinejad's pre-condition to talks that not every secret facility must be disclosed to the Obama administration).
And then this news that is already old: (the reason Chavez closed a church near the uranium field years ago because he said it was a CIA listening post).
Ironic France now takes on Iran after giving Bush the cold shoulder. Merkel ignores terror threats. Lebanon edges towards disorder. Syria continues to fuel Iraqi insurgents, Hamas still thwarts peace on orders from Iran. Can we completely ignore the role Iran has in terror and sustaining the network? It doesn't take a genius how false flag operations and "plausible deniability" will come into play once Iran goes nuke and ups support of proxy operations, less fearful of retaliation. That seems reasonable enough an assumption based on the history. After all, The Iranian Defense Minister murdered Jews worshipping in Argentina. Iran is also also suspected of supplying chemical and even biological weapons to Hizb'Allah along with new advanced missiles.
So what does this administration really know? You can't hide all the stuff behind the cloak of diplomacy. This is what the Democrats accused Bush of doing. History is usually unkind in such matters.
In the episode, Comic Book Guy creates Everyman, who can gain superpowers by touching the comic book of any superhero. The Everyman comic is such a success it becomes a film, with Homer in the title role. A trainer-to-the-stars, voiced by Rogen, pushes him to get in shape.
Yep. I keep wondering how the doom and gloom folks moaning over Obama's drop to 56% just can't quite bring themselves to mention the Republucan numbers.
My experience at the US Chamber was that they really didn't care about their members other than whether or not the dues came in to pay the people in the building very, very well. Their lobbying was often at cross purposes with one group of members (usually the small ones) being shafted for another group that brought in more cash.
Other than the money, it was the power and relationships and having a great big space where the President could speak by just walking across the street.
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Posted by: Fairweather Lewis
| September 25, 2009 12:13 AM
Sad news.
Tim Russert's Father "Big Russ" Dies At 85
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/24/tim-russerts-father-big-r_n_299372.html
Posted by: Rezdog
| September 25, 2009 12:22 AM
Sarah has a fine near future. She'll become a sort of Ann Coulter with a human face, selling millions of her memoirs (written for her by penny-a-worders) on her syndicated radio show to an ever shrinking demographic of bitter, dying, old codgers with gas, denture breath, and smelly minds.
She will elude the bullets of her almost former inlaws, and that wacked out ex-trooper, ex-bro-inlaw, and make it to the republican convention in 2012. By then, she and soon to be ex-former MN Governor Potholes Aplenty will have torn chunks out of each other, defending the Prez contenders who will have chosen them as running mates. Staid old willard will have picked Palin, and the humorous huckster will have picked prettyboy Potholes Aplenty. Potholes will be the talk of the town with his shy boyish smile and ability to make compelling and empty promises. But Palin will win because she is more butch. The republican convention will be tied through the 243d ballot.
In the general election, the willard-sarah ticket will come in 5th behind :
Obama & Clinton. Biden will take over as Czar Czar (D) 51.4%
Kinky Friedman's Unleash the Dogs Party (FUD)-37.8%, Carries TX by a landslide and NY by a split hair.
ron paul's Anarchist/Libertarian Party ("Every Man For Himself") - 8.7% Wins squeekers in AK, ID, WY, and UT
ralph nadir's Many Trials Party, as it is called on the West Coast, or Lawsuit Party, as it is called in the East (MT/SUIT) - 2.1%
and lyndon larouche's Salvation LaRouche Party (SALAROUP) - .9%
willard & Palin republican party (R) - .89 %
Vote Count supplied by Phligh, Beinydt, & Associates.
Posted by: xrepublican
| September 25, 2009 3:11 AM
I must have missed this earlier this summer .
http://www.topix.com/forum/us/republican/TDNOO65PB3VSNI9VA :
"GOP Rep. Says Uninsured Woman Should Seek Charity
At the Richmond Times-Dispatch “public square” forum yesterday, Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA) took questions from his constituents on the health reform debate for the first time this summer. One such constituent, Patricia Churchill, spoke about a close family member, now unemployed and thus uninsured, who is dying of tumors. Cantor suggested that Churchill’s relative seek 'existing government programs' or find charity."
So, why aren't pong, tir, mqw, and jtrader hip to this latest republican line that Government solves problems ?
Posted by: xrepublican
| September 25, 2009 3:55 AM
Hey, Craig!
On an unrelated topic, good job on C-Span yesterday. You've probably figured it out by now, but the guy from Metarie who referred to the "Heglian Dialect," though he did get at least the spelling of the first part right if not the pronunciation, was undoubtedly talking about the Hegelian Dialectic.
He had me confused as well and I first thought he might be referring to the language from the movie, The Day the Earth Stood Still. Following that twisted logical path potentially reveals the light at the end of the tunnel for the Senate's endless "discussion" of health care:
If the alien spaceship could shut down the earth's electrical system in the interest of world peace, why wouldn't universal coverage be part of the sequel?
~Tom Gordon
P.S.: I have always loved and admired Helen Thomas and just pre-ordered your new book with her on my Kindle. Good luck with it!
Posted by: Tomas Gordon
| September 25, 2009 6:07 AM
Craig,
Your being on KO and my turning it on in Orlando doubled his viewership in this market.
Thank you for giving the accurate time so I was only in pain for a few extra min's.
You are so much better then what you are allowed.
Listen up GE... You need to do something with your entertainment segements cause they are not.
Give Craig a Show !!
Posted by: Ping Pong
| September 25, 2009 6:21 AM
How about lets talk about the UN.
Give Barack credit (Most likely Hillary (with Bill behind Hillary) behind the scene) if real sanctions get pushed on IRAN to stop the Nuclear push.
Now be careful Barack... Same story with Bush and IRAQ and then the spineless and do nothing but suck our dollars - corrupt UN and the sleeze that they are would not stand together when it matters.
So be careful Barack and use that skill you have to enchant those in the UN and pull a fast one for the good of all.
Posted by: Ping Pong
| September 25, 2009 7:24 AM
Who is that behind those Foster Grants? Oh, her. The worst thing that could happen to her isn't being called the new Mann Coulter, it's being ignored.
Craig is correct in thinking she will string this out as long as she can, but won't run in 2012. She is all about attention, good or bad.
It's a sick psychology summed up in a quote from my new, fave show & shows how she's gotten as far as she has on so little intellectual gas:
"There's not much of a difference between a stadium full of cheering fans and an angry crowd screaming abuse at you. They're both just making a lot of noise. How you take it is up to you. Convince yourself they're cheering for you. You do that, and some day, they will."
- Sue on "GLEE"
Posted by: blueINdallas
| September 25, 2009 7:45 AM
Letterman had the best line: "If the speech was that good, it must've been Tina Fey." Her extemp in the airport was as meandering as usual...and, hey, aren't we supposed to be talking about health care & the economy & war & ....
Don't know if this news made it to the national news or not:
"Undercover agents met with Smadi at least 10 times and talked to him at least 40 times while he hatched his plot to commit jihad, or holy war, against the "Romans (Christians) and Jews," an arrest warrant affidavit says. The FBI said Smadi was in the country illegally and lived and worked in Italy, about 45 minutes south of Dallas."
Hmmmmm, he lived in Italy, Texas and had a problem with "Romans."
http://www.star-telegram.com/news/story/1635472.html
Posted by: blueINdallas
| September 25, 2009 7:52 AM
I know I'm suppose to love him for his mind, his words, but Craig is just so darn cute I can even finish watching Ko and be smiling. That is a testament to Craig's nice way about him.
Rez- Sorry I'm so lousy with the phone- got your message last night, couldn't figure which number was yours though.
Posted by: oldseahag
| September 25, 2009 7:55 AM
Ping, you are quie funny. Craig, you were good before the camera as usual. Yep, you should have a show of your own, but perhaps not on MSNBC. From last night's exchange about MSNBC, these words this morning from AP:
"Dee Davis, president of the Center for Rural Strategies in nearby Whitesburg, said the federal government has done "precious little" in Clay County other than building a federal prison in Manchester in the 1990s. But he is not aware of any deep-seated hatred of the government.
"Government is not seen as the enemy, except for people who might fear getting caught for what they're doing," he said.
University of Pittsburgh sociologist Kathleen Blee, co-author of a book about Clay County, says that when she heard of Sparkman's death, she initially wondered whether he had stumbled across a marijuana plot.
Pot growers seeking to avoid federal forfeiture statutes often plant their crops on national forest land and have even been known to booby-trap plots with explosives and rattlesnakes.
"Like any poor county, people are engaged in a variety of revenue sources," she said. "Not all of them legal."
Army retiree George Robinson did door-to-door census work in Clay County in 2000. No one ever threatened him, but some people questioned why the government needed to know some of the information, especially income, requested on the census form."
Of course this goes much deep in print than Maddow did with her own cable show. In any case, have a great morning. It looks like another beauty in NYC except for that damn UN traffic.
Posted by: maxtrue
| September 25, 2009 8:01 AM
OSH....
I LOVE Craig for his sense of humor....
and his good taste in picking ties....
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| September 25, 2009 8:04 AM
Palin will run in 2012. Even if she loses, it will be good for her career.
Look at Pat Buchanan. He used an unsucessful run for president to become MSNBC's chief spokesNazi.
Posted by: Nash2.0
| September 25, 2009 8:05 AM
Exactly, Nash...
Posted by: Patsi
| September 25, 2009 8:11 AM
Good morning Renee.
Craig's ties are important. Look what happened to Tucker Carlson.
MSNBC finally got him to stop wearing those stupid bow ties but by then the damage had been done and he was off the air.
Posted by: Nash2.0
| September 25, 2009 8:11 AM
palin........bah, humbug.
Posted by: sturgeone
| September 25, 2009 8:15 AM
Patsi: If Palin had good "handlers," and she followed their advice, she could WIN.
Posted by: Nash2.0
| September 25, 2009 8:15 AM
As I had been arguing for some time, Iran has facilities off our radar. One of these facilities has been revealed by Iran: http://www.rr.com/news/topic/article/rr/9000/9031525/Officials_tell_AP_Iran_has_second_enrichment_plant
There ARE other facilities, so I would say Debka and a few alternative news sources branded as loonie by the denialists are often correct and that Iran is likely ready for the bomb. Only a South African disclosure can now defuse the situation.
http://debka.com/headline.php?hid=6283
Posted by: maxtrue
| September 25, 2009 8:16 AM
Renee & Nash- never noticed the ties- will make an effort stop watching adorable faces he makes and start taking note of the ties.
Does he wear Vineyard Vine ties?
Posted by: oldseahag
| September 25, 2009 8:17 AM
i'm building a kitchen for a coal mine executive.......any questions anyone wants to ask him?
Posted by: sturgeone
| September 25, 2009 8:19 AM
Just looked over last nights posts and saw Rez' remarks to the effect that no HCR and no drawdown = no vote. I agree.
It seems as if Safire's "nattering nabobs of negativism" have infected and paralyzed Democrats and are keeping them from doing what their mandate directed them to do.
And, all of that is a helluva lot more important than Mrs Palin.
Posted by: Flatus
| September 25, 2009 8:26 AM
very strange interstate highway map:
http://strangemaps.files.wordpress.com/2007/02/fullinterstatemap-web.jpg
Posted by: sturgeone
| September 25, 2009 8:26 AM
"Even if she loses, it will be good for her career"
nash, both palin and huckabee have an opportunity (and imo a not so secret desire) for noteworthy media careers and not necessarily of a political nature.
Posted by: patd
| September 25, 2009 8:26 AM
President Palin's first day in office…
(1) Orders nuke attack on Saudi Arabia, by mistake. (Meant to say Iran.)
(2) Replaces White House Press Briefing room with rifle range.
(3) Wounds Chuck Todd when he fails to hold target steady.
(4) Sends Vice President Romney to undisclosed location, until further notice.
(5) Creates new White House banquet menu item: "Mooseburgers."
Posted by: Nash2.0
| September 25, 2009 8:26 AM
Surg, I have questions about building all the time. What cabinets are you using? Do you attach the undermount sink to the counter or frame out the top area of the base cabinet? Those are just two.
For the executive? How's that carbon sequestration going? When will coal liquification become affordable?
Posted by: maxtrue
| September 25, 2009 8:28 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262370
Before or after you're paid?
Actually, you should probably ask if he likes the job you did and will he recommend you to his friends.
Posted by: Flatus
| September 25, 2009 8:30 AM
Funny Nash. Maybe Craig can convince MSNBC to let you run a comedy segment between Olberman and maddow. They need your Nash bashing.......
You forgot her Presidential high alltitude ballon so she can always see Russia.
Posted by: maxtrue
| September 25, 2009 8:32 AM
questions noted.
undermount sinks usually mounted and secured to stone and synthetic counter tops.....formica is gone with the wind as i said earlier....heavy ones may require blocking under......."farmhouse" sinks rest on shelving under sink......said shelving allowing for plumbing........
I build and install the cabinets......."euro" frameless mostly with grass hidden hinges and blum undermount soft-close drawer slides.........
Posted by: sturgeone
| September 25, 2009 8:34 AM
patd: Yes, Palin and Huckabee could just do media careers but why shouldn't both of them run? It boosts their market value.
Also, I think both have been bitten by the ambition bug. Once you realize that you might actually have a shot at being President, and Palin came close, it's hard to walk away.
Posted by: Nash2.0
| September 25, 2009 8:35 AM
flate.....ha......let's just say i dont talk politics with clients......so far they love what we're doing.............
Posted by: sturgeone
| September 25, 2009 8:36 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262371
Obama himself has repeatedly stated his motive is not to change the system but lower cost and cover the uninsured. I am not sure what mandate you're talking about. It certainly wasn't Moore's mantra that capitalism is evil and an enemey of Democracy that got Obama elected. For the record, Mossad seems to have bettered our Intel and that is more important than Palin too.
Posted by: maxtrue
| September 25, 2009 8:38 AM
"...so far they love what we're doing..."
Sturg, those coal execs always love cabinets made of ebony.
Posted by: Flatus
| September 25, 2009 8:42 AM
maxtrue: Plain was unfairly mocked. You actually can see Russia from Alaska's far western Aleutian islands.
Like I said, she just needs good handlers. Bush had Rove.
Posted by: Nash2.0
| September 25, 2009 8:42 AM
Max, it's not what Mr Obama said that counts, it's what people _think_ he said.
Posted by: Flatus
| September 25, 2009 8:43 AM
No more parsing of campaign rhetoric.
Posted by: Flatus
| September 25, 2009 8:46 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262378
Sounds cool. I'll have to give you my website. I find my base cabinets are just a tad bigger than my undermounts so it is easy to add some framing and use the base to hold sink rather than drill holes into granite and clip against gravity.
I'm putting in some Armstrong cabinets next month. Kritt were the nicest I ever installed, but one could have bought a car with what they cost my client. I bet you do nice work Sturg. I wish I was working for a coal executive. I wouldn't have to give him my usual "I know you can't afford it" discount.
Never use formica or Corian these days. Stainless, granite, slate, marble, quartz are my likes. I would love to try the concrete epoxy counters as they seem strong, cheap and cool looking. Have you done any like that?
Posted by: maxtrue
| September 25, 2009 8:48 AM
Iran is enriching uranium and we are talking about Palin. LOL!
Posted by: Corey
| September 25, 2009 8:48 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262384
Flatus, that would whatever they imagine he said. I am sure AIPAC thinks he said one thing and KOS thinks he said another. The sad and unvetted truth is that he said both.
Posted by: maxtrue
| September 25, 2009 8:49 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262383
Yeah but your jokes involve other things she was mocked about. I was angry about that, but she has a long way to go before I can forget the sound of her meandering diction. I suspect you would like her to run because she would lose. On the other hand, the GOP hasn't come up with anything more newsworthy yet.
Let's see how far her make-over goes, but I bet she emulates a bit of the women you described in your neck of the woods. There is certainly some charm in that.....
Work does call today........have a good one you all.
Posted by: maxtrue
| September 25, 2009 8:54 AM
Morning fellow listers.
Every day I thank Jon Stewart for smackin that bowtie off Tucker's neck. AND for being the last nail in Crossfire's coffin.
Just in case you missed it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQFB5YpDZE&feature=PlayList&p=91FF4A7D57DAB509&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=25
Here's my prediction, and it's something Keith and Howard Fineman talked about last night: I think a public option will come out of the house, the senate will NOT pass a bill with it, but it'll re-emerge in conference. I really think the admin has a handle on this.. and everything else.
Here's what happens every day, I'll use Jimmy Carter's interview as an example. I saw Carter's interview the evening he gave it. He SAID that the extremism that was exhibited at town halls had deep seeded roots in racism. He did NOT say that all criticism was rooted in racism. He was TALKING about what we were all talking about: those idjits carrying guns, talking about death panels, screaming that they "want their country back" -- now what country exactly DO they want back? 40 years ago?? Now what are the talking heads going on about? That Jimmy Carter called everyone who disagrees with policy a racist. He DIDN'T say anything of the kind, but THAT's what they're all saying. Even when you've seen the original interview with your own eyes, they start in on revisionist history!!
Posted by: tylenol
| September 25, 2009 9:09 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/25/us/politics/25poll.html?_r=1&hp=&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1253883853-ejUXFDDrOQcBQgAkT8j6dQ
And add to that the NYT big header on the front page about the Iranian nuclear program.
Posted by: maxtrue
| September 25, 2009 9:10 AM
max........some cabinet pitchers amongst other goofy esoterica:
http://bluescrab.blogspot.com/
Posted by: sturgeone
| September 25, 2009 9:22 AM
The Merry Minuet
Kingston Trio
...
They're rioting in Africa,
There's strife in Iran.
What nature doesn't do to us
Will be done by our fellow man!
...
Posted by: Flatus
| September 25, 2009 9:24 AM
it should be single payer.......but public option will pass after they make a big deal about how tough it will be to get it and how hard they will have to fight for it........all a ruse.......
Posted by: sturgeone
| September 25, 2009 9:39 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262395
Sturg, you're so wise when you're wise.
Posted by: Flatus
| September 25, 2009 9:43 AM
Tom Lehrer............National Brotherhood Week
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIlJ8ZCs4jY
all of my folks hate all of your folks.......lol
Posted by: sturgeone
| September 25, 2009 9:43 AM
flate.......can only be blind squirrel/nut syndrome.......
Posted by: sturgeone
| September 25, 2009 9:44 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262387
Corey shoots and scores.
Posted by: Patsi
| September 25, 2009 9:46 AM
Ana Marie Cox came up with a remark that is the height of totally accurate coupled with truly mean. :+ giggle.
"U do not want 2 miss the swooning self-regard & misty incoherence that is Peggy Noonan"
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 9:48 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262397
Sturg, Tom Lehrer is a national treasure! When my brother was at Harvard in the middle 50s, he was already a folk hero there.
Posted by: Flatus
| September 25, 2009 9:52 AM
"....what are the talking heads going on about? That Jimmy Carter called everyone who disagrees with policy a racist. He DIDN'T say anything of the kind, but THAT's what they're all saying."
ty, you are so right. and then we get bogged down in quibbling, distracted from the important issues as flatus and corey pointed out. it's as tho' we are puppets, dancing on msm strings and mouthing pre-set dialogue.
Posted by: patd
| September 25, 2009 10:01 AM
Sorry, and one more thing... the only people who think Obama might be over-exposed these days are people like us.. who have a newschannel on in the background a LOT of the day. If you aren't a political junkie, chances are you've barely seen Obama. Even doing the Sunday morning blitz, (have you SEEN the ratings for Sunday morning shows??? they're terrible. People are either having brunch or sleeping!) didn't overexpose Obama.
Posted by: tylenol
| September 25, 2009 10:07 AM
Sturg, your email adress? Nice photos of cabinet work. Do you make them yourself and did you design all that work?
I'm telling you guys, collectively we could really build something great. How about an early retirement facility for Beck, Hannity and Rush? Who here is into metal work as we will undoubtedly need some bars......
You might be right about the public option, but it lowers expectations a notch in 2010. Given the poll numbers, not a great call........
Thus ends my coffee break...lol
Posted by: maxtrue
| September 25, 2009 10:09 AM
Agreed, if you want real health care WITH choice and lower premiums, single payer is the way to go, but that'll never get passed. Actually, our system is NOT exclusively single payer. Many employees have mutual-payer benefits (although you'll find that most of these healthcare benefits are ADDED to a bottom-line healthcare program that everyone is part of). Don't know if I've explained this well, but... everyone pays into taxes which fund a basic healthcare program..then if you work at a company that has extra healthcare (eyeglasses, dental, etc) then it is a co-pay situation.
Posted by: tylenol
| September 25, 2009 10:15 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262355
Welcome Tomas, Stick around. It's a pretty good group in here. We had fun with Hegel on the last thread. Monty Python is real big in this little house.
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 10:19 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262356
Ping
That idea could be fun. The President has his "real people" on his blackberry. Craig has us. It would be fun to hear Craig take a "phone break" in the middle of the show to call Patsi, Lard, or Reb for a few choice words on the subject under discussion.
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 10:23 AM
Oh, I forgot this. Some amazing stuff from WIRED this morning. They all seem more interesting than Palin……
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/09/martian-ice/
Missed water by inches……
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/09/monarch-migration/
Amazing way butterflies navigate
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/09/sunspots/
Implications for earth’s climate
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/09/telco-spy-immunity/
Russ at it again with Obama on the other side of the fence
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/09/brain-scans-reveal-what-youve-seen/
Read the last lines and imagine how that will change politics forever…
Posted by: maxtrue
| September 25, 2009 10:27 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262363
Nash,
She couldn't replace Pat. He has a vocabulary without a ghost writer.
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 10:30 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262378
What other political site has Construction, plumbing, agriculture tips, solar ovens, boating, fishing, candy making, and AP courses in history,, geology, geography, archeology etc. etc. etc. .....
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 10:39 AM
"Why should Jax's tax dollars go to help Atlanta ? What has Atlanta ever done for Jax"
cbob, sturge, jax's tax dollars have been affected by georgia for years by what they send down the rivers, wrecking one of the finest seafood producing areas of the country. florida-georgia lawsuit fight over is about as bad and long lived as the "bleak house" case.
Posted by: patd
| September 25, 2009 10:42 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262355
Very nice, uplifting post Tom!
Saw the earlier posts on reasons to love Craig.
I love him because he's so fair and logical. Because he says what he thinks, whether is popular or not. I don't even have to agree with what he says, as long as it's true in his mind and said with sincerity. Best of all: he's not afraid to change his mind.
Posted by: chloe
| September 25, 2009 10:46 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262395
Sturgeone,
It would be way too simple to just open up Medicare to anyone who wanted to buy in. How would the Congress Critters looks as if they actually worked for a living?
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 10:46 AM
Ty... great posts this morning....
but if the msm reported on what Carter actually said it would make too much sense.... the point is to get people riled up in order to increase ratings....
nothing riles up like a good made-up fairy tale....
and even though I am a political junkie.... I gave up Sunday morning shows about 3 years ago.... sleeping in and brunch..... YUM!
Nash.... I want a mooseburger.... and I want it NOW...
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| September 25, 2009 10:49 AM
questions to gracious host:
craig, would breaking up our longer posts in to several bite-size pieces help? are you being assessed on the number of hits/comments? does quantity trump quality? do some cites/links cause problems or enhance tm standing?
Posted by: patd
| September 25, 2009 10:49 AM
"Iran is enriching uranium and we are talking about Palin. LOL!" http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262387
here ya go Corey:
US, UK, French heads demand Iran nuke site opened
"Armed with the disclosure of a secret Iranian nuclear facility, President Barack Obama and the leaders of France and Britain demanded Friday that Tehran fully disclose its nuclear ambitions "or be held accountable" to an impatient world community.
French President Nicolas Sarkozy said Iran has until December to comply or face new sanctions. British Prime Minister Gordon Brown accused Iran of "serial deception."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090925/ap_on_go_pr_wh/g20_summit_obama_iran
Posted by: chloe
| September 25, 2009 10:51 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262416
Patd, I bet that they may keep track of how many hits they get.
Posted by: chloe
| September 25, 2009 10:52 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262416
It's presumptuous of me to opine on this subject, but I would think Chloe's post just above is about the right size for a typical comment.
Posted by: Flatus
| September 25, 2009 10:55 AM
I should have linked the message. It's this one:
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262417
Posted by: Flatus
| September 25, 2009 10:56 AM
Ha Flatus! I take it you mean the one liner. ;)
Posted by: chloe
| September 25, 2009 10:57 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262405
Tylenol
It is actually the same here with Medicare. There are wrap around and supplemental policies for costs above co pays, dental etc.
It wouldn't put the insurance companies out of business to go single payer. In fact they would probably end up making more by having additional policy holders for the extras and add ons without having to pay out as much.
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 10:57 AM
Ok, gotcha.
Posted by: chloe
| September 25, 2009 10:57 AM
Max
Under your last article, the link to this article's headline is priceless:
"Scanning Dead Salmon in fMRI Machine Highlights Risk of Red Herrings"
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 11:03 AM
At 1:00-pm Eastern today:
Hillary Clinton, United States Secretary of State, will deliver the keynote address, and President Bill Clinton will share closing remarks.
http://e.clintonfoundation.org/t?r=1925&c=1808707&l=56657&ctl=26DBE9E:A0A85510C3ED3BFF58448D52F774ED1A68DD0F06FC115585&
Posted by: Flatus
| September 25, 2009 11:04 AM
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
Jamie, try the FBN sign up again I got it to work.
Posted by: Ree
| September 25, 2009 11:07 AM
Nice site Flatus. Thanks for linking it.
Posted by: chloe
| September 25, 2009 11:09 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262426
Ree,
Got what to work?
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 11:20 AM
Thought for the day :
" Lend money to a bad debtor and he will hate you. "
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| September 25, 2009 11:36 AM
WE'RE SAFE UNDER OBAMA!
.
The FBI foiled at least 2 plots. This is under the OBAMA ADMINISTRATION. This is WITHOUT all those freakin' SCARE tactics to the US public.
.
So to those gun toten, hysterical conservatives....what do you have to say now?
.
"FBI: Bomb plot targeting Dallas skyscraper foiled"
.
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent ... 21aef.html
tt
Posted by: tiptoe
| September 25, 2009 11:41 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/my-cspan-morning.html#comment-262312
Calling others stupid.
Arrogant.
Posted by: chloe
-------------------
You haven't been keeping up with the Texas school book committee.
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| September 25, 2009 11:44 AM
tt - and all without an orange alert!!
Posted by: tylenol
| September 25, 2009 11:45 AM
Shhh don't tell Max, but I actually agreed with him last night that Rachel seemed to be reaching for "anti government" without enough substance other than the the word "Fed", but she may have been filling in with the absence of any real info other than that or the drug growth trail.
Here is what little is given out by the police on the case so far.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jbzG_BlkG2Hfc818EPRRn1bBlP6gD9AUC4UO0
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 11:49 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262361
Hey, Max--this would be Clay Co., KY? Hmmm.
Posted by: Fairweather Lewis
| September 25, 2009 11:50 AM
Photos from the G20 Pittsburgh Protest, from the scene guest blogger “Terrible Towel. I am going to try and update through the day as I get the pics.
http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/2009/09/pittsburgh-g20-photos-from-steel-town.html
Posted by: Ree
| September 25, 2009 11:51 AM
1897 William Faulkner Mississippi, author (Sound & the Fury-Nobel 1949)
1931 Barbara Walters Boston Mass, newscaster (Today, 20/20, ABC-TV)
1936 Juliet Prowse Bombay India, actress/dancer (Who Killed Teddy Bear)
1943 John Locke LA, rocker (Spirit-I Got A Line on You)
1944 Michael Douglas NJ, actor (Coma, Wall St, Jewel of the Nile)
1951 Mark Hamill Oakland Calif, actor (Star Wars)
1952 Christopher Reeve actor (Superman)
1493 Columbus sails on 2nd voyage to America
1513 Vasco Nu§ez de Balboa is the 1st European to see the Pacific Ocean
1639 1st printing press in America
1775 American Revolutionary War hero Ethan Allen captured
1789 Congress proposes Bill of Rights (10 of 12 will ratify)
1804 12th amendment to the US constitution, regulating judicial power
1861 Secretary of US Navy authorizes enlistment of slaves
1890 Congress establishes Yosemite National Park (Calif)
1911 Ground breaking begins in Boston for Fenway Park
1919 Pres Wilson becomes seriously ill & collapses after a speech
1924 Malcolm Campbell sets world auto speed record at 146.16 MPH
1926 Henry Ford announces the 8 hour, 5-day work week
1939 Versailles Peace Treaty forgot to include Andorra, so Andorra & Germany finally sign an official treaty ending WW I
1957 300 US Army troops guard 9 black kids return to Central HS in Ark
1962 A black church is destroyed by fire in Macon Georgia
1981 Sandra Day O'Connor sworn in as 1st female supreme court justice
1986 Antonin Scalia appointed to the Supreme Court
1990 Saddam Hussein warns US will repeat Vietnam experience
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| September 25, 2009 11:56 AM
haha..that blog "sweet jesus I hate chris matthews" is still up and running.. and still funny.
Posted by: tylenol
| September 25, 2009 11:56 AM
tylenol, that's part of my point.
.
C-Bob, I've kept up with Texas TEA (Texas Education Agency) not tea, as in tea baggers but similar...very similar
.
They're wantin' to rewrite the social studies curriculum to exclude liberals like Ceser Chavez. Oh and wantin' to include Intelligent Design into the science curriculum.
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Intelligent Design by any other name = creationism.
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Yep, this is the belt buckle, alright.
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So if they include religion into schools, I want Evolution included in every church and Sunday school class.
"State board to keep César Chávez and Thurgood Marshall in its curriculum"
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http://www.elpasotimes.com/news/ci_13362953
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tt
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Posted by: tiptoe
| September 25, 2009 11:56 AM
Mr. Skin - Spirit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzdnz82TSZw
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| September 25, 2009 11:59 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/my-cspan-morning.html#comment-262437
oops, wrong page. Physically here, mentally still over there.
Jamie, be on the lookout for a Hieland Coo.
Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 12:00 PM
The James Gang - The Bomber
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1yiCyCvW4g
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| September 25, 2009 12:02 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262434
I had the gut feeling that they thought he was a revenuer.
Posted by: Flatus
| September 25, 2009 12:03 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262439
Tylenol,
Tweetie came up with a good one a couple of days ago that had Joan Walsh figuratively shaking her head on twitter. He closed out with her by saying about her comment on a politician, "That's okay he can take a punch from a woman."
For a very bright man, his mouth sure can flap without the brain attached.
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 12:04 PM
Former Manson Cult Member Atkins Dies In Prison
http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2009/09/25/world/international-uk-usa-manson-atkins.html
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| September 25, 2009 12:05 PM
"1981 Sandra Day O'Connor sworn in as 1st female supreme court justice"
thanks cbob for reminding us of this special day.
anyone hear how our 2nd female justice is doing? just caught a glimpse of news that she's out of hospital.
Posted by: patd
| September 25, 2009 12:09 PM
if kinky gets elected gov (god, allah and whoeverelse willing), bet the first action by tex school brd will be to ban his pix from school walls and not allow students to hear the inaugural address for fear that whatever's left of their little minds will be stimulated to think.
Posted by: patd
| September 25, 2009 12:15 PM
patd, re: Kinky as TX Gov..."whatever's left of their little minds will be stimulated to think."
LOL!
tt
Posted by: tiptoe
| September 25, 2009 12:20 PM
Drinking water unsafe at thousands of schools
Federal government has done little to monitor the problem, AP finds
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33008932/ns/health-kids_and_parenting/
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| September 25, 2009 12:25 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262444
Flatus--if it is Clay Co. KY--they are--or at one time were--one of the poorest counties in the state, fallout from a feud that involved four families, had the body count of a small war and made the Hatfields and McCoys look positively prim and proper. The feud lasted from the eighteen-forties to the end of WWII, ending when most of the young people moved away to find jobs in the north; businesses for many years wouldn't locate there.
The revenuer idea is a distinct possibility too. "The people who might fear getting caught" referenced in the article Max quoted are, as here, most likely cookin' meth these days, though.
Posted by: Fairweather Lewis
| September 25, 2009 12:34 PM
here's an article on the death of that census worker from the Christian Science Monitor....
http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0924/p02s25-usgn.html
I have to admit that when I initially read about it here on this blog.... my first thought was the census worker must be black.... just goes to show how wrong our first reactions can be without getting any facts....
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| September 25, 2009 12:38 PM
Posted by: maxtrue | September 25, 2009 8:16 AM : "As I had been arguing for some time, Iran has facilities off our radar. One of these facilities has been revealed by Iran: http://www.rr.com/news/topic/article/rr/9000/9031525/Officials_tell_AP_Iran_has_second_enrichment_plant
There ARE other facilities, so I would say Debka and a few alternative news sources branded as loonie by the denialists are often correct and that Iran is likely ready for the bomb. "
I don't remember anyone ever denying that there were secret nuclear facilities in Iran - except the Iranians. Several people have said that they have found no evidence, but that is not the same as denial. Anyway, who else are you talking about ?
One of the problems with debka is that they called for immediate attacks on Irans nuclear facilities 1 1/2 years ago, if not earlier. Had anyone attacked then, today we would be living in a fool's paradise, thinking that the correct plant(s) had been destroyed. One can't just willy nilly attack an enemy without having a rough estimate of their strength, order of battle, & positions.
That is only one of the problems with debka. Another is their refusal to name sources, and a third is that they have a horrible track record for publishing assertions that turn out to be exaggerated or downright false.
Posted by: xrepublican
| September 25, 2009 12:44 PM
jamie - Jon Steward did a great impression of "Peggums," as you call her, this week. Not a fan of AMC, though; not after Imus...not even before Imus.
Posted by: blueINdallas
| September 25, 2009 12:50 PM
corey posted "Iran is enriching uranium and we are talking about Palin." Exactly. She is the GOP's piece of yarn & we are easily-distracted kitty cats.
Posted by: blueINdallas
| September 25, 2009 12:55 PM
Posted by: Nash2.0 | September 25, 2009 8:42 AM :
"maxtrue: Plain was unfairly mocked. You actually can see Russia from Alaska's far western Aleutian islands. Like I said, she just needs good handlers. Bush had Rove."
The people of Little Diomede (US) and Big Diomede (russia) Islands are related by descent and marriage. They canoed back forth all through the Cold War w/o the benefit of customs searches and Intelligence Community Inquisitions.
The islands are only a few miles apart - much closer than Cuba has ever been. However, Sarah Palin's home is several hundred miles from Little Diomede, and cannot quite be seen through all the trees and mountains that sit between the two and refuse to budge.
Posted by: xrepublican
| September 25, 2009 12:55 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262442
If it's full sized, I hope the backyard will do.
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 1:01 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262456
xr
One of the oddest facts about the Diomedes back in the 60s were our leftists trying to go to Russia. Their soldiers would just toss them back to the US side of the line.
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Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 1:09 PM
max - The point of the Russia statement is that she brought it up when questioned about her foreign policy experience. She can't think on her feet. That's nothing a person can be "handled" out of...and being the GOPs spokesmodel doesn't give her real foreign policy experience, either.
Now, what are we gonna do about health care, the wars, the economy...?
Posted by: blueINdallas
| September 25, 2009 1:20 PM
For those with blogs, the next Blogblast For Peace will be November 5
The blogs being submitted are changed daily at
http://blogblastforpeace.com/
They will all be flying all over the blogosphere from every state in the union and more than 50 countries worldwide so far
You can grab your own globe to design here:
http://mimiwrites.blogspot.com/2009/02/how-to-get-your-peace-globe-2009.html
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 1:28 PM
Anyone here listening to Hillary? I just can't seem to get the site working.
Posted by: oldseahag
| September 25, 2009 1:30 PM
OSH
They seem to be on a break right now, just running videos. I'll be watching in about a half hour when she comes on
http://www.clintonglobalinitiative.org/ourmeetings/meeting_2009_annual_webcast.asp?Section=OurMeetings&PageTitle=Webcast
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 1:36 PM
They just announced her
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 1:36 PM
"craig, would breaking up our longer posts in to several bite-size pieces help? are you being assessed on the number of hits/comments? does quantity trump quality? do some cites/links cause problems or enhance tm standing? -- Posted by: patd"
patd -- none of that need to worry about as far as TM standing. we're in very good shape as is. but i do think super long comments simply aren't read as widely as shorter ones, but that's just a matter of my suggestion for helping commenters be heard.
Posted by: craigcrawford.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 1:38 PM
Foreign policy experience :
1. She yammered boustrophedon for 80 minutes to an almost entirely male audience of Chicommies who only attended to get her autograph on the picture of her in the US flag bathing suit, cradling the squirtgun.
2. She once heard that the russia lay a couple of miles off of Little Diomed Island. She picked up the thesaurus to see if she could find a map of Little Diomede.
3. Her former almost son-in-law once picked up a Peruvian hooker in downtown Anchorage.
4. Ketchikan and Sitka have lots of ethnic russians, whose ancestors have been in Alaska for 150 years or more.
5. During the last ice age, thousands of russians crossed the land bridge and invaded America through Alaska. Fortunately, Christopher Columbus and George Washington fought them off by land and by sea, and Americans won a great battle in the snow at Valley Forge, thanks to the Pilgrim Fathers.
Posted by: xrepublican
| September 25, 2009 1:55 PM
It was nice seeing Hill step down and Bill step up at the CGI annual meeting. As couples go, they have contributed so much.
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 2:00 PM
Maxtrue,
The report I read said that the 'secret' nuclear operation is near Qom. Do we know how close ? Is it close enough for a 2-fer ?
Accidents can happen. I mean, look a Chernobyl. It took out a city, made the richest farmland in the soviet union - the size of Iowa - unuseable, cut off electricity to millions of people, made at least a half million people homeless and unemployed, and destroyed the faith 300,000,000 slaves had in their masters.
How long do you think Achmedinajad and Khameni would last if there was a nuclear accident that wiped out Qom ?
Posted by: xrepublican
| September 25, 2009 2:05 PM
CBob
Haiti really needs ovens that don't burn wood or charcoal so that the reforestration can take place. Do you have a portable Maria?
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 2:10 PM
Jamie -
I'll get back to you on that one.
---------------------
Cable News vs. the President
["Cable chatter"] has become a frequent shorthand used by Obama to complain about coverage he finds simplistic, process-obsessed and generally geared more toward creating heat than light. Not surprisingly, he employs the term most often when he's frustrated that attention is being devoted to what he considers distractions to his agenda: The Henry Gates police incident, rowdy town halls, South Carolina Rep. Joe Wilson's outburst -- all made-for-cable moments that Obama has come to dismiss as unworthy diversions.
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/politics/cable_news_vs_the_president_136880.asp
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| September 25, 2009 2:25 PM
Phrase of the week -
" process-obsessed "
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| September 25, 2009 2:26 PM
CBob
He's at cross purposes with media. He is trying to do a job and they are trying to get ratings.
Unfortunately, the two goals have little in common
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 2:31 PM
The small oven -
SUN OVENS International, Inc. is striving to develop and implement comprehensive solar cooking programs that will radically decrease the developing worlds dependence on fuel wood and dung as the primary cooking fuels while benefiting the environment, raising the standard of living and improving the health of the poor worldwide.
http://www.sunoven.com/
The big village size oven. -
The Temple Solar Project
The Temple Solar Project finances, purchases, delivers and sets in operation large baking and cooking sun ovens in world-wide locations where natural fuels are depleted and populations are undernourished. The large Villager Sun Ovens are the basis for self-supporting community bakeries to replace outdated and environmentally harmful methods of cooking and to provide new, healthy means for feeding the citizens in deprived areas of underdeveloped nations. The Temple Solar Project, a humanitarian service of Rotary District 6450, has brought the means for cooking and baking without fossil fuels to numerous communities in foreign lands where natural resources have been depleted or are at great risk.
http://www.rotarysolarovens.org/
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| September 25, 2009 2:33 PM
Jamie -
The Global Sun Oven people have been at this for a while. Purchase of these supports their efforts around the world.
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| September 25, 2009 2:38 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/my-cspan-morning.html#comment-262312
there's more truth per letter in this statement than there is in the average dictionary........
Posted by: sturgeone
| September 25, 2009 2:39 PM
Sturg -
Don't tell the coal exc. you know Pogo or me.
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| September 25, 2009 2:58 PM
The Republican Brat Pack
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2009/sep/24/republicans-tea-party-protests
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 3:00 PM
discretion is the better part of valor.......
Posted by: sturgeone
| September 25, 2009 3:00 PM
Posted by: tylenol | September 25, 2009 11:45 AM : "and all without an orange alert!!"
Mr. Tylenol,
I'd almost begun to believe that Orange Alert was a little town by the airport. Several times a week, I pass a couple of signs while going past the airport, and again while coming back. Those signs have been there for 7 years now, and I really doubt that they have the capability of changing the color of the alert. I figured the babybushcheney WH would want to keep us in a state of fear just short of panic in perpetuity, which is a fairly long gig.
Of course, the big terrorism bust at the airport was Senator larry craig's toe-tapping messages, "Have gun. Will travel." And, "This is a 44 Magnum [22 short, to tell the truth] , the most powerful gun in the world. Feeling lucky ?"
Posted by: xrepublican
| September 25, 2009 3:03 PM
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com | September 25, 2009 2:31 PM :
"He's at cross purposes with media. He is trying to do a job and they are trying to get ratings.
Unfortunately, the two goals have little in common"
This is the most succinct and clear analysis of the present ugly state of things that I have come across. It deserves the coveted 'Atta Girl medal, if you ask me.
Posted by: xrepublican
| September 25, 2009 3:09 PM
Xrep...
that would be "Ms" Tylenol.....
rats... I didn't know Hillary was speaking anywhere today until I read this here blog.... I missed it....
well.... at least my house is clean enough for my little get together with friends tonight....
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| September 25, 2009 3:33 PM
Thanks, Ms Renee.
I am ever so sorry, Ms Tylenol. I abase myself, and assure you that it won't happen again.
God, the embarrassment. And, everyone was watching....
Posted by: xrepublican
| September 25, 2009 3:42 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/24/AR2009092404906.html?nav=hcmodule
"Democrats Are Jarred by Drop In Fundraising
Complacency, Absence of Big Donors Cited"
Wow, they can cite anything they like. But, I'm certain sure that people don't contribute if they think they're getting screwed by the person asking for the contribution.
Single-payer Single-payer Single-payer
Posted by: Flatus
| September 25, 2009 3:44 PM
sturge, maybe it's something in the water. or maybe inbreeding over the years of those scots-irish settlers. or maybe it's an bad joke yet to be told.
Posted by: patd
| September 25, 2009 3:45 PM
It's okay XR, polite people never notice someone else's embarrassment.
Posted by: Flatus
| September 25, 2009 3:48 PM
single pay, single pay, single all the way.
oh what fun it is to chide
for an open, nonprofit day.
Posted by: patd
| September 25, 2009 3:53 PM
Update More Photos from the G20 Pittsburgh Protest. Guest Blogger "Terrible Towel"
http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/
Posted by: Ree
| September 25, 2009 3:58 PM
Music for the PM:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHrZAplckpI
Off to research. With, perhaps, some lurking thrown in. Nite all.
Posted by: Fairweather Lewis
| September 25, 2009 4:12 PM
Obama overexposed? That's why I don't follow all the news shows too much. As a comedian once said: "My friends are always asking me, "Did you see what Bush said today? How could you miss that?!" He'd say, "I don't know. I guess I got more channels than you do, dude." But, that's America. People can choose to be as informed or mis-informed as they wanna be. It's just that the mis-informed people are speaking up quite a bit these days.
Posted by: Corey
| September 25, 2009 4:17 PM
Dashing through the bill
in a one horse little town
O'er the fields we go
laughing at Michelle's gown
bells on toes will ring
making spirits bright
what fun it is to laugh and sing
on single payer night
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| September 25, 2009 4:18 PM
" fun to hear Craig take a "phone break" in the middle of the show to call Patsi, Lard, or Reb for a few choice words on the subject under discussion."
Not me, Jamie -- my language would get Craig kicked off....
Posted by: Patsi
| September 25, 2009 4:19 PM
Word substitution?
http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/acorn-handy-substitute-n-word-912-ev
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 4:23 PM
It'd be a nice change for somebody else to get kicked off, wouldn't it be, Patsi? :)
Posted by: Corey
| September 25, 2009 4:23 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262482
Renee
There are replays on the site of the CGI Institute but I don't see one for Hillary as yet. Here is part of her speech courtesy of Treehugger
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/09/hillary-clinton-announces-obama-food-security.php
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 4:30 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262475
CBob
I checked out the Rotary site. It looks like a good project for any Rotary chapter as well as private donations.
You've used Maria. How practical would it be someday to have a solar over in a household (adjustment of temperatures, backing surfaces etc) in place of those powered by fossile fuels.
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 4:58 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262487
Just watched one of those phony "citizens for blah blah" commercials funded by the insurance companies. If it weren't my TV I would have thrown something through the screen:
Tell the President you don't want his public option. Tell the President you don't want government control of your health. The President's Public option COULD LEAD to (list horrors here).
There really should be something illegal about corporations being considered people with free speech. Or here's a bright idea, a network with enough ethics to refuse to run this dishonest crud without full disclosure as to the source of the money.
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 5:06 PM
Going forward, Trail Mixers. Some really cool stuff is ahead for us as our new CQ-RollCall-TheEconomist platform unfolds across the next several months. For starters, take a look at the citizen advocacy tools on Roll Call's evolving public site (url below) and begin to think about how we integrate them into our little corner of the internets. I'd like to take our established community to another level, to a place where we not only share our views with each other, but provide ways for you to lobby lawmakers and make a real difference, no matter where on the spectrum your opinions fall.
http://www.congress.org
Posted by: craigcrawford.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 5:11 PM
Craig
Are you sure you want to unleash this crowd on the world? I don't know of a politician anywhere who would want this crowd for a town hall.audience :-)
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 5:58 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262498
Actually, it leaves me underwhelmed. As soon as are tossed into a grand forum such as that, we'll be expected to adopt group-speak.
Posted by: Flatus
| September 25, 2009 6:13 PM
"This is not a football game."
Nice. Take that Skip!!
Posted by: warren
| September 25, 2009 6:18 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262498
"I'd like to take our established community to another level, to a place where we not only share our views with each other, but provide ways for you to lobby lawmakers and make a real difference, no matter where on the spectrum your opinions fall."
Oh boy oh boy oh boy.
Sign me up!
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker
| September 25, 2009 6:32 PM
This is cool
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/soapbox/
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker
| September 25, 2009 6:34 PM
Is Beck a preacher's son? The guy is such a televangelist.
Posted by: warren
| September 25, 2009 6:37 PM
If it is credibility you seek - avoid calling out your opponent for deceitfulness. Never forget, but once you get into a tit-fot-tat - the rest of what you say will be taken with a grain of salt.
Posted by: warren
| September 25, 2009 6:47 PM
For goodness sake, please don't make the soapbox alerts free.
Posted by: Flatus
| September 25, 2009 6:49 PM
Warren,
My favorite Mae West quote:
"If you're gonna play tit for tat with me, you better bring plenty of tat."
Posted by: cajunjoe.pip.verisignlabs.com
| September 25, 2009 6:51 PM
Jamie -
You just build it in a south facing wall, but that means your house is doing a butt load more than just baking brownies. It'd dry clothes as well with the right design. Heat the house .
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| September 25, 2009 7:00 PM
They knew how to shoot straigt in the 30's and 50's!! Funny how we think of that a such conservative time - yet you watch the movies and all the girls are cursin and smokin up a storm! Don't strike me as delicate flowers baking behind the proverbial white picket fence.
Posted by: warren
| September 25, 2009 7:09 PM
It's not too bad Flatus...only four free alerts a month,
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker
| September 25, 2009 7:25 PM
"Are you sure you want to unleash this crowd on the world? I don't know of a politician anywhere who would want this crowd for a town hall.audience :-)
-- Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com "
Jamie, i've never been so sure of anything? they deserve it.
Posted by: craigcrawford.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 7:31 PM
Mika was at her best this morning.
She is much better when there is real news. She usually annoys me.
Posted by: warren
| September 25, 2009 7:46 PM
http://slatest.slate.com/id/2229654/entry/2
Finally some scientific proof that the Iranian election was a fraud. The question is why this wasn't caught earlier.
I see Ahmadinjad says the West will regret Obama's accusation today. I note that there has already been identification by MEK of a warhead design facility several months ago and now two more sites cited last week involved in detonation systems. Of course, the ISraeli Press leaked some info on Iran prepping a test site. Now we see that Obama was quite restrained knowing this as I suspect from his daily briefings. If he can swing this around and take on Iran with more support than China and Russia was willing to give, Bush,,kudos.
I hope Brezinski feels like a fool. I know he was due on TV, but I think I missed it.
New York Press was rather impressed with Netanyahu. While I do not know what goes on behind back doors, I can only hope it is as smart, determined and well executed as the Cuban Missile Crisis.This is a fascinating read if you haven't the fortune to look at it yet:
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/subject_menus/msc_cubamenu.asp
-perhaps the best stuff on the subject. I wonder if Craig can draw any similarities between the dark shuffling now compared to back in 62. There sure as hell more players now and more Press which Kennedy had some issues with.
So Ahmadinejackass says he "does not need to tell the Obama administration where every secret Iranian facility is".
He certainly isn't going to out debate Obama on that question. Try again.......
Posted by: maxtrue
| September 25, 2009 7:47 PM
Did you all hear Akmadeenajad say it doesn't matter what Sarkozi and Brown said.
Ha! That musta stung. Those comments were, in part, preciptated by the fact that those two took a harder line and used deadlines - but still. Not all the rags will pick up that nuance.
Posted by: warren
| September 25, 2009 7:53 PM
max......rsturgeonxix@yahoo
mommie, mommie......I don't wanna be unleashed upon an unsuspecting world......
shut up and keep swimming...............
Posted by: sturgeone
| September 25, 2009 7:56 PM
Have I expressed my undying love for Savanah Guthrie yet on this blog? I think she may be the one (unless Nora gets a divorce ; )
Posted by: warren
| September 25, 2009 7:57 PM
Guess what max - all govt's are corrupt.
Can we move on.
What does your scientific data tells us about the next steps?
Posted by: warren
| September 25, 2009 7:59 PM
Now you want to hear something crazier? Ahmadinejad is going to be on Larry King tonight at 9 pm. WTF? I hope there was some ambush like Hillary replacing Larry for the evening. If King softballs it, it would be a professional disgrace.
Well Moore will be on CNN tonight plugging his movie. I wonder if anyone will ask him who funded his movie. How about the very people he bashes.....
Clinton changes his mind on same sex marriage. Is he campaigning to outflank Obama? Interesting situation.
Posted by: maxtrue
| September 25, 2009 8:03 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262513
Warren,
That is what bugs me about Mika. When it is real news and neither Joe or her father is around, she is very, very good. As soon as the bullying power figures enter the picture, here comes either the little girl giggle or the frowning mommy.
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 8:08 PM
How about the very people he bashes
Max,
He already said that to Keith Olbermann. As soon as either his sponsors or Keiths thought that people were actually demanding action, the money would stop flowing.
You might not agree with him, but he is honest about what he believes and how he gets his message out.
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 8:10 PM
Well, Warren, many here in the US said it appeared that Ahmadinejad won. No serious proof has been offered to date. If Ki-Moon can tell Honduras when a "fair" election will take place, why has the UN rubber stamped Iran's election?
I would think you would say that my claims last summer were correct and all of you trying to explain that it would take years for Iran to get a nuke and delivery system were wrong. Seems my sources were more accurate than your sources. During this time you thought there was no grave risk, sanctions were labeled more neocon crap. We did nothing. Yep, I did say the NEI report in 2007 was wrong, but there are still other secret facilites and a global network of operatives. Wishing won't make this go away.
Well anyway, I have lots of suggestions regarding Iran but the one that counts comes from Obama.
You ought to guess what the next smart move is. Netanyahu's speech lays down the reasoning for the stick as does Obama's latest order of super bunker busters. Add some international unity and perhaps we can get a blink before something harsher.
Posted by: maxtrue
| September 25, 2009 8:12 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262501
Flatus,
We have been through three or four moves now and for the most part the group has hung together without too much loss of identity. Of course we all had to hang together to toss out the drunks and disorderlies, so you may have to work just a bit harder for a while until the lurkers get the idea and join in the fun with instructions to play nice (most of the time).
As long as they don't take away our You tube all should be well.
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 8:16 PM
I don't see him as so honest Jamie. Even Colbert stumped him with capitalism defeating the Soviets. His world is one of exaggeration, though no doubt there are many things wrong he explores.
Slate had a great review of his movie...
Posted by: maxtrue
| September 25, 2009 8:16 PM
Thanks Sturg. Again, nice work. You either have an eye for detail for you don't. You sound like you are in great shape. I ice elbows as a precaution these days. Doc says builders are prone to golfer's elbow.
Ain't that funny......I don't golf. Well, I'm a crappy putter.
Posted by: maxtrue
| September 25, 2009 8:20 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262519
good head's up max. Definitely better than watching Hannity bloviate.
Posted by: warren
| September 25, 2009 8:24 PM
for the Bloggers, the Take This Tune prompt is up for next week and it is our diva Dinah Washington singing September in the Rain. Pull out your free association pens and start writing.
http://takethistune.blogspot.com/
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 8:24 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262520
Jamie:
You put it much better than I could. I associate myself with those remarks!
Posted by: warren
| September 25, 2009 8:29 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262525
I can sympathize--having gotten tennis elbow from running a cash register, many years ago--
Posted by: Fairweather Lewis
| September 25, 2009 8:29 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262522
Max - it sounds like you are having a conversation in your head that I am only vaguely a part of.
Posted by: warren
| September 25, 2009 8:31 PM
"You ought to guess what the next smart move is. Netanyahu's speech lays down the reasoning for the stick as does Obama's latest order of super bunker busters. Add some international unity and perhaps we can get a blink before something harsher."
Knowing that max - perhaps Mahmoud will make a smart move and act responsibly instead of sacrificing many lives so that he can become the next Saddam (or a martyr of sorts).
Posted by: warren
| September 25, 2009 8:34 PM
Lards column today is wonderful, but you might want to put on sunglasses before clicking on the link
http://seanholton.wordpress.com/2009/09/25/something-about-north-carolina/#comment-546
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 8:44 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262524
Max
Honesty and knowing the whole history of a subject are two different things. Heck thousands listen to Beck and he isn't honest and he is ignorant.
In any case he seems to have sorted his thoughts on the subject since, because I heard him talking today about the capitalism of small business and honest dealing vs the rampant greed of Corporate welfare.
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 8:48 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262531
Not in his mindset Warren and he is on a string. Don't be fooled because he knows he is on TV. Just review his statements and the activity of his government.
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262530
Not at all Warren. I was just pointing out the record and our past converstions about Iran this last summer.
Posted by: maxtrue
| September 25, 2009 8:49 PM
Strug, pics sent....
Posted by: maxtrue
| September 25, 2009 8:49 PM
Oh Michael Moore will be on Bill Mahar tonight
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 8:50 PM
Sturg, pics sent. It was a long day and my eyes are punchy......
Moore is funny on CNN. I wonder if Moore believes merit has any meaning.
He laments no one is watching Obama's back, but Moore has taken some hard shots at Obama and so are his friends. Moore thinks capitalism used to be gentler and kinder. I guess he never read Zinn's History of the United States. Standard Oil was a great one and the railroads were a great chapter in capitalism?
Posted by: maxtrue
| September 25, 2009 8:53 PM
He'll have much more fun on Maher as he self-promotes. Maybe he can clairfy his history some Moore.
Posted by: maxtrue
| September 25, 2009 8:54 PM
Deceitful? I guess I missed that. Oh you mean calling Ahmadinejad deceitful? He has been caught many times. We caught his illegal arms months ago. His defense minister murdered Jews in South America. He was caught in NY trying to import banned items from China. He said nothing as people are raping into confessing. He is far more than deceitful.
Obama was quite honest today. In some aspects, He has more Intel. He released this news because he knew Iran had discovered they had been discovered.
Posted by: maxtrue
| September 25, 2009 8:58 PM
Larry is having on the Iranian nutcase....
Posted by: maxtrue
| September 25, 2009 9:01 PM
Oh Max
It seems that Rachel wasn't reaching quite so far last night in the Sparkman death. More news now about his census id card taped to his neck among other items indicating some possible anti government. FBI now involved.
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 9:04 PM
I'madinnerjacket is unencumbered by the needs to speak the truth. Larry King had Hugo Chavez on the other night -the pauses of the translator were pretty funny.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker
| September 25, 2009 9:06 PM
"I'madinnerjacket" lol@ KGC, Thx, i'll never forget him name again.
Posted by: Rezdog
| September 25, 2009 9:10 PM
Rez
It's been around awhile, I wish I could credit the original author. I think Jamie used it here first.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker
| September 25, 2009 9:16 PM
Rachel is on fire tonight. She is naming all the government contractors who would have to be "defunded" if the Republicans "Acorn" law goes through. They might want to rethink their wording.
It is well worth seeing.
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 9:21 PM
2.5 billion dollars a week goes to contractors who then turn around and bribe congress critters to get more money.
YES IT IS A BRIBE
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 9:23 PM
Halliburton got as much in one day as ACORN got in 20 years.
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 9:24 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262523
I wouldn't worry too much about group speak. There are some pretty iron-willed posters on this blog - and there are always a few dissenting voices around too.
Rare is the case that we all sit around and sing kum-ba-ya
Posted by: warren
| September 25, 2009 9:25 PM
lol (literally) KGC!!
Posted by: warren
| September 25, 2009 9:31 PM
Michael Moore is gonna be on Bill Maher? Poor Bill, he'll be crushed!
Posted by: Corey
| September 25, 2009 9:35 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262544
I stole "Imadinnerjacket" from Stephanie Miller. I don't know if she stole it, but you sure don't forget his name once you've heard the association.
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 9:37 PM
Palin's future. I don't see any difference between Palin and the Huckster -he has a tiny bit more of a veneer of rational thinking but underneath --whack job.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker
| September 25, 2009 9:39 PM
Corey
They will probably supply two chairs. It wouldn't do to pancake the host.
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 9:43 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262544
kgc & Jamie, A first for me. :-) I relate to it well.
Reminds me of some of my old (tribal) classmates. I had a good Lakota friend who use to always complain about his tribal chairman, Webster Two Hawk. He always referred to him as Webster Double Talk.
Or there was our native student president Ed Monetauchi. A Comanche guy we use to tease b/c he fought every idea on how to spend our funds. Henceforth, he became Ed Touchy Money. He hated a few of us.
Posted by: Rezdog
| September 25, 2009 9:44 PM
Good night all. Have a great evening. Tomorrow is my baby daughter's 45th birthday. I am going into mourning for the weekend. :-)
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 9:49 PM
Intense interview on Larry King with I'madinnerjacket.
He really takes some shots at Sarkozi.
The good news is that he is still clinging to reason - and he said that he would allow in inspectors into the new facility.
Posted by: warren
| September 25, 2009 10:03 PM
KGC
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262552
Maybe he's more polished - but I think the Huckster might be the wackier of the two.
Posted by: warren
| September 25, 2009 10:07 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262556
Means nothing. How many times were the inspectors allowed in the North Korean facilities, and how many times were cameras installed and equipment sealed?
Posted by: Flatus
| September 25, 2009 10:12 PM
Maybe he's more polished - but I think the Huckster might be the wackier of the two.
Posted by: warren Author Profile Page | September 25, 2009 10:07 PM
no argument here
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker
| September 25, 2009 10:23 PM
Flatus:
It means that things - might - not escalate in the next couple of weeks. Which is a good or a bad thing depending on who you talk to.
Posted by: warren
| September 25, 2009 10:31 PM
"I will not let finite dissapointment undermine infinite hope."
Corey Booker on "Brick City"
Posted by: warren
| September 25, 2009 10:53 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262556\\Clinging to reason?
Did he answer the question Warren? He suggested the US murdered Nada as he implied the US had murdered a woman in the staging of the coup attempt on Chavez. As for WW2, let historians freely debate the issue and form a fair consensus? Fuck him. "Lot's of people died and we should have sympathy for all of them".
As far as the secret facility, why did he disclose it hours before Obama's disclosure? Why is the facility on a military base? How about the other facilities and his claim Obama does not need to know every secret facility? (three other sites I have mentioned here 1. warhead plant with North Korean compounds 2. detonator design and 3. detonator production -all disclosed by MEK) What about his spititual advisor blessing the rape of prisoners to gain confessions? Rape of men and women alike. He compared that to the protests in Pittsburg and the murder every day in our prisons. This was a reasonable man? You make him seem more sensibile than Beck or Hannity.
This was an unbalanced man forgetting he was on US TV after his first statement which he considered his most important. There is more that we and Israel have on Iran. He insulted Sarkozy, made fun of Blair and Bush and lectured Obama. He said the size of the protest seen on cell phones was because the majority was out in the street defending the regime. What idiot believes this? I posted statistical analysis that refutes the absurd answer he had on the ballots.
He could have been clever. Instead, he was poorly acting, pitted against the elderly. You should see his look when Time ambushed him in the morning. That's the smirk we so admire.
King: Are you confident?
Ahamadinejad: Of what?
He laughed at the mere thought of Israel attacking Iran. A great and powerful nation doesn't worry about a smaller one attacking it.
King: they could take out most of your facilities.
Ahmadinejad: They would regret that after our response.
"Thank you Mr. President, it was nice having you here"? Did Larry really say that? What a lame interview. Why not just let him have 30 minutes of airtime. That would be better. Really a bad showing. Now tell me, wouldn't it have been better with O'Reilly, Colbert or even Anderson? This was embarrassing.
Posted by: maxtrue
| September 25, 2009 11:02 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262558
About the only inspection that would work is South African style. He will NEVER do that.
And for all you not certain of the deeper game: Netanyahu had the same Intel. He let Obama release it instead of using even more evidence to refute the IAEA latest watered down report. I suspect there is an agreement not to release more Intel as those facilities are presently targets in a simulation.
One scenario is Obama to wait until those super bunker busters are available next July. He can then dump a ream of Intel including the final prep to a test site. Until then his moves will be far more measured. I sense Hillary in the background. She may lead our one and only attempt to "talk". There is unfortunately a clock ticking........
Iranians are fairly clever. Obama is doing a rather difficult dance.
Posted by: maxtrue
| September 25, 2009 11:12 PM
max
I did not say Ahmadinejad had a strong case on any front. He is grasping at straws re: Nada and disclosure of the base.
But it is clear that he is just trying to deflect attention from the gaping holes in his position - which - again - is still the rational thing to do.
Now the resfusal to acknowledge the Holocaust - I suspect is some badge of honor in the Muslim world - but he was very careful not to outright deny it. A horrible thing indeed - but there is a horrible relationship between many Muslims and Jews in the Middle East.
And there is something to the point he kept coming back to. Now of course it is no direct answer to Larry's Question - but I do agree that it is more constructive to focus our attention on how to sort out the - current - Israeli-Palestinian problem rather than debate the past.
And don't take my point for more than it is. I am simply pleased that he did not come on, thumb his nose and say Iran is going to build a bomb no matter what the world says.
And my point is relative - as I am comparing him to Saddam or Kim Jon.
Posted by: warren
| September 25, 2009 11:17 PM
I've got to wonder if there isn't a strong tug-of-war going on in Iran between politicians and the clergy. A lot of clergy don't want leaders involved in politics. A mix we've learned here in the US that doesn't mix well.
The clergy is clearly against nuclear weapons, the more ambitious political group would like weapons as a club.
Ahmadinejad is a true believer, but has the leverage of being a big fish in a small pond. Just a pond the US has chosen to focus on and make larger than life.
Add in an unhappy population and the threat of more sanctions making every day life more miserable and this could be an interesting struggle.
In the meantime, Olmert goes on trial again showcasing one on the most corrupt governments in the world. I still can't believe the participation of Israeli politicians in corruption and the slave trade.
I'm hoping to get back to DC soon and look into the efforts of J-Street. Maybe there is hope of a true change in the status quo. So far it's been like Turkey. Ecevet and Demeril, back and forth with no real change.
Posted by: don1one
| September 25, 2009 11:21 PM
I think Obama is the only chance for a successful dialogue. It seems Mahmoud has some level of respect for him. Perhaps he has no respect for Obama - but simply fears Obama's powers of persuasion on the world stage (unlike W).
Plus, I wonder what Iranian leaders think of Clinton given their treatment of women in that Country...
Posted by: warren
| September 25, 2009 11:22 PM
I certainly hope you don't stay on that "Middle Easterners wouldn't respect a woman" meme that some of the Obama crowd tried to fly during the primaries, Warren...
Posted by: Patsi
| September 25, 2009 11:32 PM
Patsi
I know i am treading on some thin ice here - and I do not mean to imply anything with some rhetorical question.
But I really am curious about this issue and would like to hear some hard reporting on it (rather than some psycho babble or an opinion piece).
Posted by: warren
| September 25, 2009 11:35 PM
I am engaged (to the most amazing woman in the world).
Posted by: dark-lord-bloggingham.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 11:48 PM
...and I've met a lot of women.
Posted by: dark-lord-bloggingham.myopenid.com
| September 25, 2009 11:48 PM
dl - are you really bill clinton?!
Posted by: warren
| September 25, 2009 11:53 PM
I'm off to watch Maher.
Posted by: warren
| September 25, 2009 11:54 PM
jamie...
From Huffington on the Sparkman murder.
BIG CREEK, Ky. — A part-time census worker found hanging in a rural Kentucky cemetery was naked, gagged and had his hands and feet bound with duct tape, said an Ohio man who discovered the body two weeks ago.
The word "fed" was written in felt-tip pen on 51-year-old Bill Sparkman's chest, but authorities have released very few other details in the case, such as whether they think it was an accident, suicide or homicide.
"He was murdered," Weaver said. "There's no doubt."
"The only thing he had on was a pair of socks," Weaver said. "And they had duct-taped his hands, his wrists. He had duct tape over his eyes, and they gagged him with a red rag or something."
Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/25/bill-sparkman-found-naked_n_300659.html
Posted by: anon-paranoid
| September 25, 2009 11:54 PM
Maher was very good tonite. Damn funny - and I wasn't even high.
Posted by: warren
| September 26, 2009 12:51 AM
I've always looked at Maher as a Texas longhorn. A point here, a point there, and a lot of BS in between.
Posted by: don1one
| September 26, 2009 1:04 AM
don
doesn't that describe us all to some degree. (OK, well at least a lot of us...)
Posted by: warren
| September 26, 2009 1:18 AM
what's "met a lot of women" got to do with it?
Posted by: sturgeone
| September 26, 2009 2:16 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262574
it causes an affinity for the burt reynolds character in james dickey's "Deliverance"....................
Posted by: sturgeone
| September 26, 2009 2:22 AM
james dickey was had a tv show on sc etv with wm price fox.....they were both great adventurers........
Posted by: sturgeone
| September 26, 2009 2:24 AM
friend of mine's daughter came in and did the mustanga sally for us tonight......halfa moon......you can hear her sing on rilogenes' youtube channel.....joe and anne........i was just happy that mustang sally had some cachet.......gosh....ya never know..................will you still love me tomorrow?
Posted by: sturgeone
| September 26, 2009 2:29 AM
never mind.....ann's not on that site..........i think it's a facebook thing or something........crap
Posted by: sturgeone
| September 26, 2009 2:32 AM
You could put this stuff right on the Onion.
Just saw a Fox News update re: the super "secret" underground nuclear facility in Iran. Breaking news - just announced today - and they immediately cut to footage of a "facility."
(I don't know if it was stock footage or we already got a camera crew roaming around the "secret" facility.)
Posted by: warren
| September 26, 2009 2:36 AM
Democrats nominated Barack Obama instead of Hillary Clinton..
What a bunch of morons..
Posted by: Oregon Democrat
| September 26, 2009 2:42 AM
OK - this is the problem with Glenn Beck and the way he can stir people up.
Now he is just shooting the shit with this Frank Luntz focus group and asks - how many think the US Dollar will not exist in 5 years? Now you could probably count on one hand the number of people that did not raise their hand. Even Beck was surprised. But of course he didn't say anything.
That is why you cannot argue with these people. (Or should I say you can not argue "this way.")
You are right Beck. I cannot tell you with absolute certainty that the dollar will not disappear off the face of Earth in five years. There could be a chain of worst case scenarios or an E.L.E.
But worrying about czars, indoctrination or death panels is not helping us solve any of the practical problems that surround us today.
Now if they actually spent this show talking about the dollar and fiscal responsibility at any length - that one be one thing. But instead it is filled with gasps, raised eyebrows and shouts of "give us our Country back."
Give me a break.
Posted by: warren
| September 26, 2009 2:53 AM
OD - still carrying the flame.
You know - the other day - I thought about how Hillary would be perfectly set up to run after 8 years of Obama.
She can run as the elder stateswoman. She will be younger than McCain was - and can say "after letting these young bucks like Bill, George and Barack run the Country - it is time to hand it over the reigns to a wise old lady that actually knows what she's doing."
Posted by: warren
| September 26, 2009 2:59 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262570
Congrats and God luck!
Posted by: Rezdog
| September 26, 2009 3:07 AM
God = Good lol
Posted by: Rezdog
| September 26, 2009 3:08 AM
Do you think the ruling elite in the Middle East seeks to keep the population in the dark ages - because they would rather sell their oil to the West at far greater prices.
I don't know the specifics of how you make sure that a nuclear energy program is different from a nuclear weapons program - but there is a valid interest in these countries searching for energy. Regardless of the amount of oil they are sitting on.
Posted by: warren
| September 26, 2009 3:09 AM
Hannity is much more like A Current Affair or Extra than a news show. He is like the View of prime time. In a day with all the news from the G-20 - he leads with the mmm mmm mmm Obama song.
Damn those Democrats indoctrinating those kids with all that dogma like "equal pay for equal work"!!
Posted by: warren
| September 26, 2009 3:15 AM
I still wanna know what "i met a lotta women" 's gotta do wid it.....harrumph.
Posted by: sturgeone
| September 26, 2009 3:17 AM
That's all that matters, Sturge. Ask a Somali pirate.
Posted by: Corey
| September 26, 2009 3:18 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262570
mazel tov
Posted by: patd
| September 26, 2009 6:50 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262498
craig, hope this new tm world doesn't include cams on the computer. might take away the heft of our profundities if we're seen in holey robes and fuzzy slippers and, in jamies case, a kitten on one's head.
Posted by: patd
| September 26, 2009 7:54 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262491
renee, great lyric!
Posted by: patd
| September 26, 2009 7:56 AM
Birthday of John Chapman (1774), aka "Johnny Appleseed."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_appleseed
Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com
| September 26, 2009 8:26 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262566
I understand your point Warren, but I am not sure a shrink would say Ahmadinejad is playing with a full deck. It is rather funny that some question the GOP sanity in regard for their taste for creationism. Ahmadinejad's belief system strains the concept of rationality. I never said Ahmadinejad wasn't clever at times, just that he is rationally and thus morally impaired.
Patd, so true about the woman thing which gives me hope that perhaps Obama will have Hillary lead the "talking" team as they now try to establish some pre-conditions.
Posted by: maxtrue
| September 26, 2009 8:33 AM
Laird! Best wishes to you and your bride-to-be.
Posted by: Flatus
| September 26, 2009 8:36 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262581
Hey Sturg, still say Amy Winehouse has a great version, or maybe that was the Phil Spector-like production.
Posted by: maxtrue
| September 26, 2009 8:37 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262570
Congrats.
Laird? Now I'm confused.
Posted by: maxtrue
| September 26, 2009 8:40 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262578
the key degree of wisdom and satisfied curiosity I would think....
Posted by: maxtrue
| September 26, 2009 8:42 AM
Methinks Ahmadinejad's appearances are for his domestic audience. It positions the Iranian people as protectors of the fate in a world determined to destroy Islam.
Posted by: Flatus
| September 26, 2009 8:42 AM
One person's Laird is another's Lord.
Posted by: Flatus
| September 26, 2009 8:43 AM
...of the faith...
Posted by: Flatus
| September 26, 2009 8:44 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262590
That's a Moore mantra Warren. The concept of merit is replaced by the timecard and the Federal Book of pay grade. I rather suspect stock holder have some responsibility that their CEO sometimes make 500 times what the stock room dude makes. Americans need to ask themselves what personal responsibility we have and I rather doubt you would merely laugh watching kindergardners sing the mantras of Bush or even Reagan.
My liberal education informed me to resist efforts of indoctrination and conformity. Has something changed?
Good Morning and what a nice day in NYC.
Posted by: maxtrue
| September 26, 2009 8:51 AM
flatus, you were right the first time, unfortunately, with "the fate" of the world in their hands to protect or to harm.
Posted by: patd
| September 26, 2009 8:55 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262605
I thought Laird a misspelling of Lard and that would be confusing....
Yeah, I think the first statement was for Americans and the rest for Iranian domestic consumption. The stuff about Nada and the Jews was quite irrational. I see the same stuff when Chavez was questioned by Fox's producer. Chavez deflected to Bush the nazi when asked about Ahmadinejads comments.
Posted by: maxtrue
| September 26, 2009 8:58 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262607
Indeed
...protectors of the faith and the fate of the world...
Posted by: Flatus
| September 26, 2009 8:58 AM
Warren..I would be happy to be wrong about Obama. Issues such as healthcare are too important.
Also, I should be above using terms such as "morons".
Posted by: Oregon Democrat
| September 26, 2009 8:58 AM
"BERLIN — German political parties held their final campaign rallies before Sunday's national election, mindful of new warnings by Islamic militants that they would exact retribution for the country's presence in Afghanistan.
Two threatening videos surfaced Friday — one by al-Qaida and another by the Taliban — showing video of top German landmarks like the Brandenburg Gate in Berlin and Munich's world-renowned Oktoberfest."
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gb9Wk4oP-GwZCZnbBl76q4kwgJ6gD9AV0I980
Posted by: patd
| September 26, 2009 9:00 AM
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/26/ahmadinejad-goes-on-larry-king-live/?hp
Of course the Times stopped just short of finishing what Ahmadinejad said about Nada. He connected it to the coup against Chavez.
The times is certainly incomplete in this review leaving out remarks on Sarkozy, raping, comparing Pittsburg to Iranian protests,ballots etc. I wonder if CNN puts out the whole tape though reruns on cable are likely to follow.
Posted by: maxtrue
| September 26, 2009 9:08 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/26/world/middleeast/26intel.html?_r=1&hp
History about the secret enrichment plant, but note there are other facilities that have been identified which have been strangely excluded from all the media coverage AND THE WH.
Is there some secret script we're not following?
Okay, got to run.......
Posted by: maxtrue
| September 26, 2009 9:15 AM
flatus, are there technologies out there that can be quickly employed to protect against this latest method of (shall we say) self-expression?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8276007.stm
Posted by: patd
| September 26, 2009 9:16 AM
dark, just for you in your hours of celebration:
Meshugga Beach Party playing Mazel Tov Cocktail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua-7YAPaZUo
Posted by: patd
| September 26, 2009 9:28 AM
self-expression = blowing one's top literally
Posted by: patd
| September 26, 2009 9:33 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262595
Kitten now imitate's a parrot on the shoulder. Unfortunately, we can't get her to face forward. She seems to prefer guarding the rear view.
So your view on the Computo Cam would be cat's ass.
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 26, 2009 9:36 AM
jamie, that rear toward monitor position may be kitty critique of content.
Posted by: patd
| September 26, 2009 9:39 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262571
Champ
Good for you! Terrific you found someone to fill you with joy..
Posted by: tonyb39
| September 26, 2009 9:43 AM
a rather blunt to the point column by susan estrich yesterday
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/opinion/20090925_Stuff_it__John__we_don_t_care.html
Posted by: patd
| September 26, 2009 9:50 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262613
FLASH: White House does not share all its secrets with Max!!!
Posted by: cajunjoe.pip.verisignlabs.com
| September 26, 2009 9:56 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262618
In that case there are times when I should look at the wall as well.
She does like to flick her tail around, so the birthers, earthers, tenthers, and other logically deficient types wouldn't need to draw a mustache on me as I'm already equipped.
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 26, 2009 9:59 AM
ivy, thanks for reminding us of john chapman's birthday. here's james earl jones and a cartoon for those who delight in this delightful legend
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IASrP1-DulU
Posted by: patd
| September 26, 2009 10:02 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262621
Pat,
That Estrich column is perfect. I got turned off of Edwards after reading a judgment of him by someone who had worked with him years ago who said that he should wear a button that read, "Have I told you about my dead son?"
That habit of using others tragedy was there at the beginning. The willingness to use his wife's cancer, his mistress, his campaign staff etc was no surprise.
I doubt he has any capacity for remorse so the biggest favor he could do the rest of us is never be heard from again.
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 26, 2009 10:07 AM
patd
Loved Dennis Day singing in the movie. So my daughter shares Johnny's birthday. Neat.
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 26, 2009 10:12 AM
WHAT DOES CRAIG'S LATEST TWEET MEAN!!!???
Posted by: Patsi
| September 26, 2009 11:22 AM
The tweet refers to some changes at CQ. What changes?
Posted by: Patsi
| September 26, 2009 11:26 AM
Thought for the day :
" Let he who takes the plunge remember to return it by Tuesday. "
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| September 26, 2009 11:27 AM
*Sashays into the room to prove she is indeed a Ms.*
Changes at CQ? ohh like the Republicans, I'm not sure I like the sound of 'change.'
Great posts in the past 24 hours! I am convinced that nothing, ABSOLUTELY nothing is unplanned with this Administration. Obama announces a pullback of unproven starwars plan, Russians are appeased, new nuke facility found in Iran, Russians are suddenly concerned about Iran.
So, I have decided that before I comment on any given event on any given day, I shall refrain until about a week after, in order to SEE the forest for the trees, This is indeed a very smart admin, I'm going to start giving them the benefit of the doubt.
Posted by: tylenol
| September 26, 2009 11:40 AM
1888 T.S. Eliot St Louis poet/dramatist/critic (Waste Land-Nobel 1948)
1895 Fay Holden Birmingham England, actress (Mother-Andy Hardy films)
1898 George Gershwin [Jacob Gershvin] Bkln NY, composer (Rhapsody in Blue)
1902 Albert Anastasia head of Murder Inc
1914 Jack LaLanne exercise mogul
1925 Marty Robbins Glendale Az, singer (Devil Woman, I Walk Alone)
1926 Julie London Santa Rosa Calif, actress (Nurse McCall-Emergency)
1927 Patrick O'Neal Ocala Fla, actor (Kaz, Alvarez Kelly, King Rat)
1933 Donna Douglas [Dot Smith], Pride La, actress (Beverly Hillbillies)
Deaths which occurred on September 26:
1820 Daniel Boone frontiersman, dies in Missouri at 85
1687 Parthenon destroyed in war between Turks & Venetians
1777 British troops occupy Philadelphia during the American Revolution
1789 Jefferson appointed 1st Sec of State; John Jay 1st chief justice; Samuel Osgood 1st Postmaster & Edmund J Randolph 1st Attorney Genl
1892 1st public appearance of John Philip Sousa's band (NJ)
1914 Federal Trade Commission formed to regulate interstate commerce
1918 Meuse-Argonne offensive against Germany began during WW I
1950 Because of forest fire in Br Columbia, blue moon appears in England
1950 UN troops in Korean War recaptured South Korean capital of Seoul
1960 1st of 4 TV debates Nixon & Kennedy took place (Chicago)
1960 Longest speech in UN history (4 hrs, 29 mins, by Fidel Castro)
1962 TV comedy series "The Beverly Hillbillies" premiers on CBS
1973 Concorde flies from Washington DC to Paris in 3h33m
1984 Pres Reagan vetoes sanctions against South Africa
1986 Antonin Scalia becomes a Supreme Court Justice
1986 William Rehnquist becomes Chief Justice of the Supreme Court
1991 2 year experimental Biosphere 2 in Oracle Arizona begins
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| September 26, 2009 11:40 AM
Rhapsody in Blue (14:49)
http://www.last.fm/music/George+Gershwin/_/Rhapsody+in+Blue
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| September 26, 2009 11:44 AM
" Rhapsody in Blue is a musical composition by George Gershwin for solo piano and jazz band written in 1924, which combines elements of classical music with jazz-influenced effects. The composition was orchestrated by Ferde Grofé three times, in 1924, in 1926, and finally in 1946. The piece received its premiere in a concert entitled An Experiment in Modern Music, which was held on 12 February 1924, in Aeolian Hall, New York, by Paul Whiteman and his band with Gershwin playing the piano. The version for piano and symphonic orchestra, orchestrated by Ferde Grofé in 1942, has become one of the most popular American concert works. "
Last FM
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| September 26, 2009 11:46 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262629
patsi -- I was asked on twitter about CQ layoffs this week and responded. After the recent Economist/Roll Call purchase of CQ it was to be expected. Still, never easy to see friends and colleagues leaving. But there's gonna be some cool stuff ahead as CQ Politics and Roll Call's Congress.org get together for a new consumer politics site next year. TM is alive and well going forward as is -- so nobody needs to worry about that.
Posted by: craigcrawford.myopenid.com
| September 26, 2009 12:00 PM
Capitol Hill publications lay off 44 from newsroom
Congressional Quarterly, Roll Call lays off 44 workers from merged newsroom, nearly 20 pct cut
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2009/09/capitol_hill_publications_lay_off_44_from_newsroom.php?ref=fpc
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| September 26, 2009 12:01 PM
One of the bigger radio stations in the Montreal market just got bought by a media giant, who cleaned house last week. Scary stuff. Left most of us wondering how the soul survivor did it. We're thinking he has nekkid pictures of the station manager.
Posted by: tylenol
| September 26, 2009 12:06 PM
A new birther infomercial running on a CBS affiliate in Texas and elsewhere around the country tells viewers a "got a birth certificate?" bumper sticker can be theirs for the low price of $30.
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/09/as_seen_on_tv_birthermercial_asks_where_was_obama.php?ref=mp
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A $30 bumper sticker ...... Now that's real ice cubes to Eskimos territory.
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| September 26, 2009 12:06 PM
As I explained in this post from about three years ago, I bought my first Mac because I was finally at a point in my life where I had enough money and computers were central enough to what I do, that I could afford to buy a really good personal computer. I'd been using PCs for about twenty years. But try as I might, I realized that I simply could not find a computer in the PC world that was well manufactured or worked very well. So out of pure desperation I bought a Mac to see if they were any better and I never looked back.
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2009/09/how_many_of_you_use_macs.php
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| September 26, 2009 12:11 PM
ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. - A rift widened between the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and some utilities as another major power provider quit over the business group's hard stance on pending climate regulation.
The Public Service Company of New Mexico, the state's largest utility, quit the chamber Friday just days after California's largest utility, Pacific Gas and Electric Co., said it was leaving because of the chamber's "extreme" positions.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33024888/ns/us_news-environment/
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| September 26, 2009 12:25 PM
http://debka.com/article.php?aid=1405
This is a pretty good summary of what the majority of Israelis are now concluding. It speaks to the distance between rhetoric and closed door meetings. I rather doubt this looks like the record of such meetings during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
At the end of the day, if the result of US policy is a face-saving capitulation, history will not be kind, nor voters. We do want our politicians to be honest about what is fact and fiction. If we can't verifiy the veracity of rhetoric, we will hardly be able to verifiy compliance.
Posted by: maxtrue
| September 26, 2009 12:33 PM
jamie, yours and estrich's comments on je made me think of the kaparot rituals this time of year. instead of waving a chicken three times around his head transferring his sins, he sacrifices wives and loyal aides.
Posted by: patd
| September 26, 2009 12:52 PM
Mitch McConnell is polling at an 18% approval rating. That's eighteen percent. John Boehner is polling at 12% approval rating. Just think about that one. And it doesn't take much to make him cry. Mitch and Boehner are viewed less favorably than Dick Cheney was during the dark days of the Bush administration. Why don't we hear about that on teevee?
http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/will-media-ever-report-how-low-poilling
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| September 26, 2009 12:56 PM
"Iran to stage missile defense exercise Sunday: report"
http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-Iran/idUSTRE58P1GH20090926
Posted by: patd
| September 26, 2009 1:03 PM
yeah.... but.... CBob... I've heard that Boehner's tan is polling at 25% approval rating....
Dark Lord.... good for you.... Congrats!
John Chapman was born in Leominster Massachusetts.... the town right next door to where Barnicle and I were born. And the town in which Bowman works..... (where has he been lately?).... of course they have a mall, car dealerships, little stores, burgers, etc, etc, named Appleseed...
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| September 26, 2009 1:08 PM
TAMPA, Florida (CNN) -- The sick men are Marines, or sons of Marines. All 20 of them were based at or lived at Camp Lejeune, the U.S. Marine Corps' training base in North Carolina, between the 1960s and the 1980s.
They all have had breast cancer, a disease that strikes fewer than 2,000 men in the United States a year, compared with about 200,000 women. Each has had part of his chest removed as part of his treatment, along with chemotherapy, radiation or both.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/09/24/marines.breast.cancer/index.html
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| September 26, 2009 1:08 PM
"Boehner is polling at 12% approval rating"
wow, as high as that? what's wrong with those people?
Posted by: patd
| September 26, 2009 1:09 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262622
See my link above Joe. Of course, I understand the nature of secrecy but I can't help remembering the drubbing Obama gave Hillary over her lecture about "smart" diplomacy and being honesty to the American People. If what the Debka report says is true (they have a good track record), then this is not exactly the kind of secrecy, I think you had in mind.
Is it just irony that for more than a year Democrats have rejected sanctions and now when the topic comes forward, it is probably too late? Patd I believe posted a link some time back to FA that explained why this is being too late is so, unless sanctions are unusually harsh and more like an embargo. I repeat:
"Iran says the new facility won't be operational for 18 months so Iran has not violated any IAEA requirements.
A close aide to Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, however, said said Saturday that the Qom facility will be operational soon.
"This new facility, God willing, will become operational soon and will blind the eyes of the enemies," Mohammad Mohammadi Golpayegani told the semi-official Fars news agency. It is not clear if he meant less than 18 months.
Salehi said that by reporting the existence of the site voluntarily to the IAEA, Iran "pre-empted a conspiracy" against Tehran by the U.S. and its allies who were hoping to reveal the site as evidence that Iran was developing its nuclear program in secret.
"The Islamic Republic of Iran has foiled their planned conspiracy," he said.
Salehi said construction of the Qom facility was a "precautionary measure" to protect Iran's nuclear facilities from possible attacks.
"Given the threats we face every day, we are required to take the necessary precautionary measures, spread our facilities and protect our human assets. Therefore, the facility is to guarantee the continuation of our nuclear activities under any conditions," he told the television." AP (also note Ahmadinejad's pre-condition to talks that not every secret facility must be disclosed to the Obama administration).
And then this news that is already old: (the reason Chavez closed a church near the uranium field years ago because he said it was a CIA listening post).
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/26/world/americas/26venez.html
Ironic France now takes on Iran after giving Bush the cold shoulder. Merkel ignores terror threats. Lebanon edges towards disorder. Syria continues to fuel Iraqi insurgents, Hamas still thwarts peace on orders from Iran. Can we completely ignore the role Iran has in terror and sustaining the network? It doesn't take a genius how false flag operations and "plausible deniability" will come into play once Iran goes nuke and ups support of proxy operations, less fearful of retaliation. That seems reasonable enough an assumption based on the history. After all, The Iranian Defense Minister murdered Jews worshipping in Argentina. Iran is also also suspected of supplying chemical and even biological weapons to Hizb'Allah along with new advanced missiles.
So what does this administration really know? You can't hide all the stuff behind the cloak of diplomacy. This is what the Democrats accused Bush of doing. History is usually unkind in such matters.
Especially once all Hell breaks loose.
Posted by: maxtrue
| September 26, 2009 1:11 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262635
Thanks, Craig -- I hadn't seen the original question so talk of changes freaked me out! If Trail Mix went away I would have to picket somebody.
Posted by: Patsi
| September 26, 2009 1:16 PM
http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/will-media-ever-report-how-low-poilling
Maybe Bob, because that would bring up how bad the Democratic Congress is fairing in those polls.
Posted by: maxtrue
| September 26, 2009 1:18 PM
played the buttercup in leominster oncet with joe savage the snake man..........
Posted by: sturgeone
| September 26, 2009 1:19 PM
http://www.myspace.com/joesavageshow
Posted by: sturgeone
| September 26, 2009 1:21 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/24/AR2009092403824.html
They love us in Pakistan.
Posted by: maxtrue
| September 26, 2009 1:25 PM
In the episode, Comic Book Guy creates Everyman, who can gain superpowers by touching the comic book of any superhero. The Everyman comic is such a success it becomes a film, with Homer in the title role. A trainer-to-the-stars, voiced by Rogen, pushes him to get in shape.
http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2009-09-23-rogen-simpsons_N.htm
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| September 26, 2009 1:27 PM
Cayman Islands resists taxing demands as it sinks deeper into crisis
• Tax haven holds budget as it waits for $30m emergency loan
• Direct taxation would lead to job losses, argue finance leaders
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/sep/25/cayman-debt-crisis-budget-postponed
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| September 26, 2009 1:40 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262642
Pat
I predict Sunday could be unhealthy for chickens. The mistress will probably survive.
http://gothamist.com/2009/09/24/kaparot.php
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 26, 2009 2:02 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262643
CBob
Yep. I keep wondering how the doom and gloom folks moaning over Obama's drop to 56% just can't quite bring themselves to mention the Republucan numbers.
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 26, 2009 2:06 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/palins-future.html#comment-262640
CBob
My experience at the US Chamber was that they really didn't care about their members other than whether or not the dues came in to pay the people in the building very, very well. Their lobbying was often at cross purposes with one group of members (usually the small ones) being shafted for another group that brought in more cash.
Other than the money, it was the power and relationships and having a great big space where the President could speak by just walking across the street.
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 26, 2009 2:13 PM
NEW THREAD
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| September 26, 2009 2:27 PM
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