Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

Woo Hoo

Dale's photographs are wonderful as always.

In case you moved over before I posted this:

Flatus, Check with NAMI. They might be able help you find resources to help your daughter.

http://www.nami.org/

Quote of the Day
"Unless they find $90,000 in his freezer, like they did with Jefferson, we're going to wait."

So the list has grown -
A. Dead hooker
B. Live boy
C. 90 grand in the freezer

Craig -
Don't fall over board.
" Pundit eaten by shark " is more than we could bare.

On several levels.

hope the new book on bill gives us some insight on the previous healthcare reform attempt.

http://www.amazon.com/Clinton-Tapes-Wrestling-History-President/dp/1416543333

Guatemala Mayan city may have ended in pyramid battle

http://in.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idINIndia-42207620090903

"The Family" and Blackwater lackey led witch hunt against Van Jones

http://rebelreports.com/post/181216292/rep-mike-pence-who-led-witch-hunt-against-van-jones

The hunt is on for more ammunition in Nevada, U.S.

Supply can't keep up with demand, a trend that began after election
http://www.lvrj.com/news/57603387.html

Fragment from world's oldest Bible found hidden in Egyptian monastery

Academic stumbles upon previously unseen section of Codex Sinaiticus dating back to 4th century

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/fragment-from-worlds-oldest-bible-found-hidden-in-egyptian-monastery-1780274.html

Stay out of Texas. Karl Rove dove hunting with same folks that hosted Dick Cheney's lawyer shoot

http://img401.yfrog.com/i/zdbv.jpg/

Patd -
Missing channel pirate ship carried Russian arms for Iran

Mossad, which closely monitors arms supplies to Iran, is said to have tipped off the Russian government that the shipment had been sold by former military officers linked to the underworld.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6823300.ece

Jamie

it is a beautiful day here and the purple sage bushes are blooming in the backyard and all over town for that matter. The city is awash in purple and it made me think of NRPS and This song...Texas (where rove is hunting)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pMbOBXPLw0&feature=related

It's not just banks: Florida utility chief commutes by 'copter

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/74956.html

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BW

Showing my years. As I was reading the description, I immediately thought of Zane Grey's book: Riders of the Purple Sage before remembering the music group. :-)

We are all rain and drizzle. Grandson not happy, it was going to be rodeo day. HOpe the sun comes out tomorrow.

jamie...I am taking Craig's advice and not letting anything DAMpen my spirits.

BW

Not getting upset about anything until there is a DAM good reason. Right now it is all right wing noise to be drowned out by

Ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Enlightened R Us

Woooo -

Send Me Everything You Can Find About Glenn Beck
by Keith Olbermann
Sun Sep 06, 2009 at 10:14:03 AM PDT

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/9/6/777880/-Send-Me-Everything-You-Can-Find-About-Glenn-Beck

cbob, thanks for linking the pirate update. hope that editor that fled last week for questioning the episode can return with honor now or at least safely go home.

sounds like the mossad did them a big favor before too many buttons got pushed.
excerpt from your link:
"Any evidence that the Kremlin had let advanced weaponry fall into the hands of criminals or be sold to Iran would be highly embarrassing, so military officials believe a “cover story” was concocted.
“The official version is ridiculous and was given to allow the Kremlin to save face,” said a Russian military source."

the telegraph's coverage of the russianship fiasco
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/6145336/Arctic-Sea-ghost-ship-was-carrying-weapons-to-Iran.html

Patd our Pirate Pundit

like this education speech thing...the dems just keep getting caught in the republican web. Ignore them, show apathy, don't listen...I actually put all the ranting repugs in jars on a shelf until Wednesday -- when I really would love to see Obama come out swinging for the public option and have doves fly and balloons fall every time he mentions public option. That would drive Beck over the edge.

Time to eat...have a great day all and be careful out there.

Bottom line on public insurance plan gets blurry
"The Obama administration's bottom line on a government health insurance option blurred Sunday as White House officials stressed support but stopped of short of calling it a must-have part of an overhaul."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090906/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_health_care_overhaul

... of course, this is bound to change often before the next election, but beware Congress.

Experts see double-digit Dem losses
"After an August recess marked by raucous town halls, troubling polling data and widespread anecdotal evidence of a volatile electorate, the small universe of political analysts who closely follow House races is predicting moderate to heavy Democratic losses in 2010.

Already, many Democrats representing conservative-minded districts have distanced themselves from the national party’s leadership on the most controversial measures. Forty-four Democrats split from their leadership to oppose the cap-and-trade energy legislation — most of them falling in line with the economic interests of their districts.

“It goes to show that voting behavior in Congress matters at the end of the day.” Wasserman said. “Right now, we’re looking at a wave cycle, but the question is will it be a small wave or a major wave. And it matters how these freshman and sophomore members vote to determine how big a wave it will be.” h http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/26393.html

AUSTRALIA has just experienced its warmest winter on record.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,26009411-11949,00.html

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Thank you Carol, I appreciate that. And I appreciate all the expressions of support my fellow TMers have sent my way--they help.

Malone: You wanna know how to get Capone? They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. *That's* the *Chicago* way!

Birth of a ‘Lardass’

http://seanholton.wordpress.com/2009/09/05/birth-of-a-lardass/

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Chloe
When will politicians learn that they have to fulfill their campaign pledges with a vengeance. Timidity is weakness personified.

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patd, the Bruce Willis and Danny Aiello vid reminded me of an oldtime comic monologue called "Conversation with a Mule"--this version's by Andy Griffith--

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvEqm5B4kYw

There's another version by Fiddlin' Arthur Smith (alas, not on YouTube) performed as a "talkin' blues" with musical accompaniment. In Smith's version, my favorite bit (which corresponds to what Andy says beginning at 1:47) is this:

Th' only time I'm your better is when elections come
A man can vote and a mule cannot but that don't worry you none
Because you're a wise ol' donkey, you got it all figgered out
You knew politics wouldn' hep you none, and I'm just a-findin' it out. . .

Okay, boring musical interlude by Cousin Fairweather done over. ;)

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Jamie, I did the same thing, although I'm a bit younger than you.:) RIDERS OF THE PURPLE SAGE was the first Zane Grey book I ever read, so I thought of that before I did the music group too. ANY of the music groups (I only just learned there were four incarnations of the original group plus a psychedelic rock band called New Riders of the Purple Sage--YIKES!!!--although that last was around about the time I was reading the book, in jr. high).

Flatus -
Your post about your daughter reminded me about this ;

Churchill's Black Dog

"Black Dog" was Churchill's name for his depression, and as is true with all metaphors, it speaks volumes. The nickname implies both familiarity and an attempt at mastery, because while that dog may sink his fangs into one's person every now and then, he's still, after all, only a dog, and he can be cajoled sometimes and locked up other times.

http://www.healthieryou.com/exclusive/chanceth0196.html

From an earlier poster:

"Send Me Everything You Can Find About Glenn Beck
by Keith Olbermann
Sun Sep 06, 2009 at 10:14:03 AM PDT

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/9/6/777880/-Send-Me-Everything-You-Can-Find-About-Glenn-Beck"

...sounds like Olbermann is working on his Joe McCarthy impression. What an ******* Keith is. Hey, Keith, do your own friggin' research; it's called "journalism". maybe you've heard of it.

Fair,

One newer group that I love are The Sons of the San Joaquin who took over the honors from The Sons of the Pioneers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=209YsBG_kDQ

"Here's wishing all Trail Mixers a welcome break." -CC

Translation: "STFU for a day, will ya?"

...a bunch of stuff to which I feel compelled to reply, but I will refrain. Good epic battle, Bob and Jack... you both made valid points and ridiculous assertions, which always makes for a good read.

MIght as well throw in the music and silliness of Riders In The Sky while we're at it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPs36FWeSn8

"When will politicians learn that they have to fulfill their campaign pledges with a vengeance."

Yes Flatus, I think they must be listening to the wrong people. But I'd say the answer to your question is: When they find out they won't get reelected unless they do.

Flatus, I too sympathize with the hardships you, your daughter and your entire family, go through dealing with bipolar disorder. Your daughter is very lucky to have you and Stinky.

Oh, and chloe... Re: "Axelrod":

"To the victors go the spoils."

"Hey, Keith, do your own friggin' research; it's called "journalism". maybe you've heard of it. "

He probably wants to give his devoted followers a voice to be heard. Or something dumb like that.

"To the victors go the spoils."

Is that supposed to make me feel better lord?

Beck told his followers to “FIND EVERYTHING YOU CAN ON CASS SUNSTEIN, MARK LLOYD AND CAROL BROWNER.”

http://washingtonindependent.com/57912/glenn-becks-next-target-cass-sunstein

...must post that after further investigation. They both suck.

Posted by: chloe Author Profile Page | September 6, 2009 4:33 PM

...no point in feeling anything.

...and as I said, Olbermann was responding to the link i posted in my previous post. I would figure Keith wouldn't want to dignify Beck with a response; I thought he wanted to be perceived as O'Reilly's competition. This Beck nerd sure has got a lot of heat!

Ok, I said I was going to be quiet, and ellipses abound.

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Jerry Garcia (Grateful Dead) was one of the founding members of the New Riders of the Purple Sage. He played steel guitar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kVdOxXB8fg

this is one of my favorite cowboy singers these days. Don Edwards. Lives about 60 miles from here. Enjoy.

I think this song about says it all these days.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8DRvrVdSEA

Dark,,

Investigative reporting has become scanning the blogs to see what ideas they can steal.

Funny, The Matrix Runs on Windows XP, Down the Rabbit Hole With You.

http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/2009/09/whiskey-tango-foxtrot-matrix-runs-on.html

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I've heard them too. They are fantastic. I love the depth and richness of their voices--very powerful singers.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/happy-labor-day.html#comment-257931

For sure. I've had a crush on Woody Paul forEVer.;)

Patsi

I listened to "Wolves" and then wrote this to a Republican acquaintance with a link to the video.

One of the comments under the You Tube video

“In the last 9 months I have seen some wolves with no fur. We lost our house and haven't been able to find adequate employment to get another one. We are just having a very hard time and I can hear the wolves
circling, circling, getting just a bit closer with every week that we struggle.”

In the face of that the ignorant Republican rabble give us town halls and rampant racism. There may come a day when I will consider voting Republican again, and then I will remember George and say NEVER AGAIN. Too many lives destroyed by that bastard son of Texas.

I know, Jamie -- that "low and mournful sound" is spreading across the country.

Craig

I am SO jealous. I adore Boston and miss it something fierce! Especially having dinner at (I think it's called) Pier 6, looking out at the harbour lights. We used to stay at Parkerhouse just for the high tea at 5. Enjoy the weekend!

One thing Keith pointed out this week which I thought was pretty smart. It's not like progressives are going to park their votes somewhere else. It's just that progressives WONT SHOW UP at the next election. Midterm elections are about getting out those people who have turned up screaming and carrying guns at townhalls. So, the screaming idiots will show up in droves, and progressives will stay home.

Hello everyone --- Happy Labor Day.

Patsi, Jamie -- I know too.

My county's school district super unilaterally decided that the Obama speech would not be shown at all in our schools. Not even the taped version, although a DVD would later be available to any student who requests it. There is talk about how the class activity materials were inappropriately "political." I've read both sets of materials for K-6 and 7-12 and haven't seen anything in them that could even be construed as political. I am sad for the children who want to believe so much in a hero who is not a sport star or an entertainer. These are the children whose faces I see at the back-to-school nights in the precincts that went over 70% for Obama in this otherwise red county.

Then there is the midnight political lynching of Van Jones -- whose simple act of signing a petition -- signed my hundreds of other notable people -- got him thrown under the bus.
Here is the petition he signed that supposedly made him such a political risk:

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041026093059633

So are the rest of the signatories now personae non grata in this White House?

Low and mournful indeed.

Diva

"My county's school district super unilaterally decided that the Obama speech would not be shown at all in our schools"

Unbelievable. somebody needs to press the patriotic button and ram this down the idiots throats. Too bad the Democrats don't have any one with the ability. This is the type of nonscence that will turn off the middle class independents and move them out of the Republican column.
But Obama is too busy licking Republican boots.

Different day same story, the Republican bullies are still taking the Democrats lunch money.
One thing independents hate worse than bickering is weakness.

Jack

Craig

About that boil order, I'm not a believer in drinking water but instead of boiling the water may I suggest an appropriate sterilizing solution. I'm partial to Jim Beam black label.

it is about the only way I will drink water, after all you can't be too safe.

Jack

Brings to mind Schooner Tuna...from a movie.

tt

Patsi

Good music
the video made me a little thoughtful.
In 86 I loaded up the herd of registered herefords that my dad had bred and raised and that I had invested 10 years of my life in too. But I don't regret it, moving on is sometimes the best thing. I was talking to a neighbor who is renting the place bout what we were putting up for sale. The problem is he can't afford to buy the land to run cattle. I looked at the price of cattle and they are at the same price I sold mine for almost 25 years ago.

Jack

BTW
This is what a real cow looks like
Some nice looking heifers.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ca/Hereford_cattle.jpg

That 9/11 truth dot org petition reminds me of the founder who said, "Hell I ain't never heard of an idea so dangerous that it couldn't be discussed."

So he signed it. So what. Just one more cave in to the yowling mob. There may have been other reasons for Van Jones to go, but not now and certainly not in response to the racist cretins slavering for his hide.

Jamie

As I said earlier, looks like Obamas solution to infrastructure problems is to pave the roads with former allies
Being a FOO aint the safest spot in the world Another one under the bus.

Jack

I was talking to my sister seems that my nephew is rather proud that one of his culinary creations was mentioned in the NYtimes review, naturally the head chef got the credit.

http://events.nytimes.com/2009/08/12/dining/reviews/12rest.html

maybe I need to go to New York and see if he can cook as good as his uncle jack.

Jack

Border Explorer has a neat blog article up on the differences between Republicans and Democrats

If you want to giggle through crying about the truth, have at it

http://borderexplorer.blogspot.com/

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Jack

Those girls are mighty pretty. I never really had any close experience with a cow until the morning I had to convince one that the she really didn't want to dine on a field of alfalfa. Dang they are hard to push around.

"Different day same story, the Republican bullies are still taking the Democrats lunch money."

Jack
So true.Silly me,I thought with their majority thinks would be different.

Jamie

We had a young bull that I was trying to train to show him in the county fair. I'm not a very good trainer so I never did show him, I'm too impatient imagine that.

any way I would bring him to the barn and give him a bucket of grain every evening. My little sister who was 5 or 6 at the time was petting him as he ate the grain. He stepped on her foot and wouldn't move. No matter how much she yelled or hit him he wasn't moving or leaving his food.

Jack

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Tony

Pisses you off doesn't it? they have all that power and are clueless in it's use.
That is why you see people like Moyers who worked under LBJ say what he says.

Jack

Jack, the only way you're going to get a hungry animal that eating to move, is to move their food. The horses are the same way.

How was your sisters foot after that?

Jack -- One time years ago our family doctor decided he was going to quit doctoring and become a cattle baron. My dad advised him to keep his shingle out, 'cause he'd need the money to suppoort his new "hobby."

chloe It was a a long time ago but she is not crippled so I don't think she was hurt too bad. If she had been then we would have made that part of the story. ;-)

Jack

Tony, I didn't see that you were here. Thank you for posting that picture of your car. It's beautiful. I left you some questions about it on facebook.

I was wondering why it had two antennas. Also, it looks like it's probably really fast, and I was wondering how the gas mileage is. And how it rides.

Tony, I just went back to facebook and saw you answered my questions over there. I have XM too, but still only one antenna, so that threw me. That ipod connection is also very nice to have. But 40 mpg, wow. What I've give.

http://events.nytimes.com/2009/08/12/dining/reviews/12rest.html
Jack, I also also saw on facebook the New York Times piece about your nephews creation. The article mentioned several different meals.. which one did your nephew create. A lot nicer restaurant than I ever go to.

Is his mother the sister you were talking about earlier?

Chloe

I don't know which one it is I'll have to ask my sister tomorrow. I will see her when I visit my mother.
It was not the same sister that was stepped on by the bull. She has her own set of adventures growing up, including the time I dropped a hammer on her head.

As my dad used to tell people, "I have 6 daughters and every one of them have a brother"

Jack

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Jack
Hell yes it pisses me off! A few weeks ago i saw Bill Moyers on Maher and he really validated for me what I had been feeling;The President and Democrats are not leading..

Tony

Maybe this blog needs to be part of Obama's morning read.

Jack

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Chloe
I don't get why the two antenna's either,maybe it has something to do with ONSTAR?I love the IPOD connection.Its nice taking all my music on the road..Been listening to a lot of America Left talk radio lately..The gas mileage is nice too.I used to drive trucks when I lived in Michigan,its half the cost to fill up.

"I have 6 daughters and every one of them have a brother"

Now I know where you got your wonderful personality.

A really nice car Tony. A good choice.

Tony, Onstar doesn't take an extra antenna either.
Ha, maybe that extra antenna is why you get such good gas mileage. :)

"That ipod connection is also very nice to have. But 40 mpg, wow. What I've give."

Posted by: chloe Author Profile Page | September 6, 2009 9:13 PM

...al you need is $500; it's that easy! Apple Inc. will solve all your problems for $500 - $2500, depending on the problem!

What does that mean Lord?

...oh, nothing. I'm just bitter that I bought an iPod and never use it.

I have the touch ipod. I love it. Why in the world don't you use it.?

...and also bitter that as soon as one buys an Apple product, they release a "cooler" product IMMEDIATELY, and then one is stuck with the shitty "old" product that still cost the same $500 the new cool one does. Bastards!

"I have the touch ipod. I love it. Why in the world don't you use it.?"

Posted by: chloe Author Profile Page | September 6, 2009 10:47 PM

...it's so hard to get free wi-fi anymore. Back in the good old days, every network was named "NETGEAR" and every password was "admin". Now, even Dunkin' Donuts and the like has figured out how to lock their networks. Bastards!

There are more places than ever with wifi. Even McDonalds has it, Chick filet has it, not sure about Denny's, but I can always find some place here in Houston. You can always get a sprint connection, and then be connected whenever and where ever.

Champ, some libraries even have it. Ours has computers you can use too.

OK, we'll that's my time. Tip your waitress, designate a driver.

"...some libraries even have it. Ours has computers you can use too."

Posted by: chloe Author Profile Page | September 6, 2009 10:57 PM

I know; that's my point. I could have just gone to the damned library! Now I'm walking around like a moron with a metal-detector.

... morons don't carry around metal-detectors.
I think you just looking for something to gripe about. You know damn well there's always a solution for every problem.

Nite.

Gloucester, MA...been there a few times on my wanderings .
it's Labor Day, 2009.
We once had to die to get the eight hour day.
http://www.rmtbristol.org.uk/haymarket.jpg

"Maybe this blog needs to be part of Obama's morning read."

Jack
I wish it was! All you smart people could teach him a thing or two.I just hope there's some reg.folks around the President telling him to get fighting.Been hearing he will straddle the fence and say he's for the public option,but of course its not a must.We will see on Wed.

"...to ward off coliform bacteria..."

Craig
They generally get much higher compliance on boil orders if they fully identify the bacteria. In this case it's undoubtedly _fecal_ coliform bacteria.

But, identifying it that way tends to cut down on the number of visitors.

Can you guess how many people were involved in the drafting of that boil order?

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Champ
You so Funny!

Tony
I think the instant he hears a single voice of criticism or dissent he goes into straddle mode. Darn shame, it is.

Do you have labor day off? Hope so!

" think the instant he hears a single voice of criticism or dissent he goes into straddle mode."

Yes indeed. More "present" votes.

Patsi
In Florida, they didn't allow that kind of cop-out. And, the only time you could abstain was if there was a demonstrable conflict of interest that the abstainer could articulate.

In the last sentence it should have ended, '... articulate for the public record.'

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/26794.html

"What Obama will say in his address"

"Obama will try to reassure the left about his commitment to a public option, or government insurance plan. Aides said they are rethinking what he will say about this. He wants to thread the needle of voicing support for a public option, without promising to kill health reform to get it. But liberal congressional leaders were unyielding in their support for it on a conference call he held from Camp David yesterday, and he's going to meet with them at the White House early next week.

The White House line has been: “We have been saying all along that the most important part of this debate is not the public option, but rather ensuring choice and competition. There are lots of different ways to get there.”

"I think the instant he hears a single voice of criticism or dissent he goes into straddle mode. Darn shame, it is.

Flatus,
It sure is a darn shame! I knew he would be this way.I remember during the Dem primary debates him saying "I agree with Sen.Clinton" so much.Straddle,straddle..I hope this learning curve ends soon and a real leader emerges..

as usual, the public has no option......

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Flatus,
Yes, I've got today off! I had to move all my Monday clients to other days this week.Today will be great but the rest of the week will be long..Thankful still for the work...

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Sturge,

As usual you are spot on! HA HA

Good morning lovely people. We've got overcast skies here in the DC area -- and all of a sudden, the leaves have a touch of crimson.

I'm trying not to get too depressed over the right-wing wrestling the agenda so quickly. Hoping Democrats wrestle it back, but I'm getting really weary of spending my time and energy helping to elect candidates with the least undesirables.

Interesting article about Fannie Mae takeover

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/06/business/economy/06gret.html?_r=2&scp=2&sq=fannie%20mae&st=cse

Mojo is up in arms over us paying the legal bills as required by company bylaws.

My question is since we sued these men as individuals before we took over Fannie, can't another branch of the government sue them as individuals again?

We had pounding rain yesterday - unusual for the Northwest that usually gets steady drip. In the middle of it all a lightening flash with a clap of thunder about two seconds later. Have you ever peeled cats off a ceiling?

Champ, was right when he said that the Indies, detest weakness in our president, and that some mistakes are tolerable: The only mistake he has made is to look weak; he has capitulated on every sing thing. From Giving in to Netenyahu, to the Banks, to the special interest groups, to the Insurance, Pharms, and the ...well put it this way:

There is nothing that he has stood for imo, and as an independent , he looks very weak to me...I think that McKinney , the nut that I voted for, would have slapped some of them ( D's and R's ) into shape by now: Like she did that guard one time.....

I was with a lot of young people so far this weekend. At a children s party, there was a lot of conversation about HC and some of obama's other talks: I went, like this: Im so tired of seeing him on tv all of the time ...he is worse than bush, and of course most of them had no idea what he stood for.

I mostly just observed and stood in the background, and what became obvious to me, was that no matter what the subject was...there was always a tinge of relgigion in it......It did not matter what anyone said, religion is the real concern for most of them. There were a lot of cops, and government workers. When one of them asked me for an opinion: I told them that the overwhelming majority of insured people there were getting a government insured well run program, and that I did not have one, and like a lot of people, I could not afford one....that it was a little hypercritical of them..

.I was not asked for another opinion, but the conversation never was about H.C.,,,,not really , it was all about religion. There is no subject that can't be turned into a moral one eventually, so imo, the R's did a fantastic job of getting this across. The only way that I can think of countering it, is by educating them with all of the sciences, and such.

The thing is that all of our reps, are hamstrung cos they all preach to the same things.....they have too, so they can get elected...nothing is going to change...unless we do, the pendulum will swing back and forth between the two in-groups,.......we need to get new people in there, that will not be afraid to say and do the right things....We need to think about third party's:

Champ is also right when he says that the choice of lesser of the two evils will win out again,and again. There are only two friking party's that why.!.......It's all about religion, with the right..and for the left, it all about being intellectually correct ( mostly)..........

This would be funny if it weren't so sad: Good Max Baucus fighting with Bad Max Baucus. Can you say "Insurance Company boondoggle"

http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/09/07/bad-max-provides-more-details/

Labor Day By The Numbers

http://www.epi.org/publications/entry/labor_day_by_the_numbers/

Thought for the day :
" One man tells a falsehood, a hundred repeat it as true. "

1533 Queen Elizabeth I England, (1558-1603) daughter of Henry VIII
1829 Ferdinand Vandiveer Hayden US, geologist (Geograph Survey 1859-86)
1860 Grandma (Anna Maria) Moses NY, primitive painter (Old Oaken Bucket)
1908 Dr Michael E DeBakey artificial heart pioneer
1913 Anthony Quayle England, actor (Anne of 1000 Days, Lawrence of Arabia)
1914 James Van Allen discovered Van Allen radiation belts
1930 Sonny Rollins NYC, jazz saxophonist (Blue Room)
1936 Buddy Holly singer (Peggy Sue, That'll Be the Day)
1942 Garrison Keillor humorist (Praire Home Companion)
1950 Peggy Noonan author (What I Saw at the Revolution)
1960 David Steele rocker (Fine Young Cannibals-Drive Me Crazy)

1860 Excursion steamer "Lady Elgin" drowns 340 in Lake Michigan
1880 Geo Ligowsky patents device to throw clay pigeons for trapshooters
1892 James J Corbett kayos John L Sullivan in round 21 at New Orleans
1927 Philo Farnsworth demonstrates 1st use of TV in SF
1934 Luxury liner "Morro Castle" burns off NJ, killing 134
1936 Boulder Dam (now Hoover Dam) begins operation
1981 Judge Wapner & the People's Court premier on TV

lard did a great job detailing his med expenses, but what i loved most in that segment was his description of the denizens in his dog park and his take on our absurb arguments sans facts. hope he doesn't mind my posting it for tmrs who might have missed it.

" I happen to live in the most volatile corridor of the most important swing state in the nation. So depending on whose dog needs to relieve itself at any given hour, that totally imaginary point might be: “Goddamn Obama is ruining the country” or “Stupid Republican Big Pharma Pigs Must Die” or “You should try Mangosteen juice and fish oil instead of listening to doctors” or “Jesus will protect you” or ”I’ve always hated Blue Dogs” or “Hey, look at my new gun” or “From Time To Time, The Tree Of Liberty Must Be Watered With The Public Urination Of Complete Morons.” It doesn’t matter. The silly-high numbers will back you up no matter what you have to say. That’s pretty much why the whole health-care debate with all the town halls has been ridiculous. There’s all this data out there, but no real knowledge or even any interest in acquiring it. We can all see Russia from our houses. We just don’t know what the hell Russia IS.

lard, as others and i have said before, you're right down brilliant. bet if they hadn't drilled in and sucked out some of that grey matter when they did, you'd taken over the world by now.

The Age of Megafires

Global warming is increasing the intensity and number of forest fires across the American West. Scott Pelley goes to the fire line to report.

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5291115n

A male cougar is housed in a temporary cage after it was captured in Seattle's Discovery Park on Sunday. It had lived in Seattle for more than two weeks and forced the city's largest park to close. The cougar was returned to the wild, state wildlife officials said.

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/409888_cougar06.html?source=mypi

ahoy, sea, any sight of our gracious host or the schooners and the fireworks?
you must be pretty tired from all the obamanations last month. bet there was a big mess left by the papparazzi to clean up.
btw did you sell out your inventory of baracky road?

From TPM Reader MB ...

One of the drawbacks of members of Congress and the federal government having such great health care is that they really don't realize how bad private insurance is for the rest of us.

speaking of chocolates, kraft tried to take over cadbury. rejected. here are some neat pix of the old candy maker.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/gallery/2009/sep/07/cadbury-history-pictures

She Drives Me Crazy - Fine Young Cannibals

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nfFvQi1Ppw

Buddy Holly And The Crickets - That'll Be The Day

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6X7GOnLUdY

Bobby Darin - Dream Lover

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnLIXNWK8CY

Black Point Lava Flow, Arizona

http://www.redorbit.com/images/images-of-the-day/

Good article from David Sirota:

http://open.salon.com/blog/david_sirota/2009/09/06/taking_the_movement_out_of_the_obama_white_house

Humans Causing Erosion Comparable To World’s Largest Rivers And Glaciers, Study Finds

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/09/090902112105.htm

Do High-fat Diets Make Us Stupid And Lazy? Physical And Memory Abilities Of Rats Affected After 9 Days

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/08/090811143548.htm

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This would explain the rise of Fox news.

Obama with rolled up sleeves and no tie ... must be addressing labor. :-)

Who's the last president this country had that actually did real work? Truman with the hats? Carter, maybe? LBJ seems like a guy that bailed some hay.

Posted by: dark-lord-bloggingham.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | September 7, 2009 1:40 PM

("cutting brush" on a fake ranch DOESN'T count)

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/happy-labor-day.html#comment-258037

CBob

Good article. As close as I can tell, the real reasons that Van Jones was fired were Glenn Beck's zombie howlers and that he had the nerve to explain the behavior of the recalcitrant Republican Congresscritters by accurately calling them A**holes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLUW4QED2-0

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/happy-labor-day.html#comment-258040

DL

Particularly if you immediately move to a luxurious gated community once you no longer need the image.

Obama Speech to Labor

"I continue to believe that a public option within that basket of insurance choices would help improve quality and bring down costs."

"public option" for health insurance "would help improve quality and bring down costs."

Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | September 7, 2009 1:47 PM

...funny thing is, Jamie, I thought GWB was just an idiot that actually liked cutting brush for some reason. As it stands now, I'm glad GWB's current community is gated: keep him in there.

For the Birders here -

Had the Bard not mentioned the starling in the third scene of "Henry IV," arguably the most hated bird in North America might never have arrived. In the early 1890s, about 100 European starlings were released in New York City's Central Park by a group dedicated to bringing to America every bird ever mentioned by Shakespeare.

Today, it's more like Hitchcock.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32722587/ns/technology_and_science-science/

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/happy-labor-day.html#comment-258034

Patsi,

I agree with both of Sirota's points in his article. It's a shame we lose good people like Jones in such an important policy making role, but I think it's most damaging because it will surely embolden the RW fringe to press harder. I wouldn't be so concerned if these groups didn't get so much attention and coverage, but they do and will, because it's what sells.

btw I saw your link the other day about gaming and the only words that comes to mind are '"market saturation". It's a big problem in OK for them, but that's a story older than America.

Fairy tales have ancient origin
Popular fairy tales and folk stories are more ancient than was previously thought, according research by biologists.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/6142964/Fairy-tales-have-ancient-origin.html

Racing car that runs on waste chocolate to race in Formula 3
Its steering wheel is made of carrots and it runs on waste chocolate.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/journalists/richard-alleyne/6138994/Racing-car-that-runs-on-waste-chocolate-to-race-in-Formula-3.html

Rez -

Obama is feeding the tiger ........ I'm sure there's a fairytale that explains it.

Agreed, Cbob

Re -
The Obama school speech .

The Republican rebuttal ? Who's doing that one ?

And will they come out for bacon sandwiches , and Cliff Notes ?

I think I'll go out to visit my mother , maybe say hello to Buddy as well , he's right on the way .

Patsi

Thanks for the Sirota piece.Very good points like this:

"Jones being forced out will not mollify the racists, crazies, tea baggers, Republican congresspeople and other assorted conservative freakshows - it will only embolden them. When lynch mobs in the Old South lynched someone, when a witchhunting band caught a target in Salem, when HUAC "proved" the supposed communism of its victims, that didn't calm them down - it only intensified their bloodlust because it made them believe they could be even more successful in the future. So if the White House's political "gurus" believe booting Jones was the safe and prudent way to mitigate right-wing hatred, then they are as short-sighted and stupid as they've proven themselves to be in mismanaging the summer's health care debate."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/26813.html

"Glenn Beck up, left down and Van Jones defiant"

"The resignation early Sunday of “green jobs” adviser Van Jones says as much about the Obama White House as it does about Jones – marking the latest sacrifice to the political gods after a long summer of compromises and surrenders highlighted the limits of White House power.

The departure – nominally the choice of a still-defiant Jones, who said he feared distracting from important business – confirmed Obama’s choice of pragmatism over confrontation and a belief that controversies sometimes are better solved by capitulation, a view that infuriates Obama’s allies on the left.

It confirmed that the real opposition party to Obama right now is the conservative grassroots that draws its energy from Fox News, talk radio and the Drudge Report, and often leaves Republican elected officials scrambling to catch up."

tony, patsi, reading that sirota piece made me think that now is the time that obama's people and therefore the media should be pointing out the racists/racism. but they cried wolf too much and too often in the primaries for silly slights and against the wrong folks. too bad cause here they have the real stuff, with guns yet.

Today in History US gets its nickname of Uncle Sam

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history.do?action=tdihVideoCategory&id=52848&HPF_rid=38280717&HPF_mid=2790_T1_Url3

killer seaweed. what next, cbob?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8242649.stm

Patd -
There's a H2S story way more scary than that one. It's off the "Skeleton Coast " of Namiba . It took a woman from the outside coming in and asking a simple question , " Hey what's that smell ? " .

Hydrogen Sulfide Eruption off Namibia
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/NaturalHazards/view.php?id=18791

The NASA link gives only a partial account, it makes no mention of the part about the world stripping out all the sardines that used to come and feed on this bloom. So the blooms now , are far more deadly, because we have removed one of the links in the food chain.
I'll see if I can find that part of the story, really a great science yarn.

Here's the thing about H2s, it only takes a few parts per million and your dead. If you're a living thing that is oxygen based, it'll kill ya really quick. The first whiff you smell rotten eggs, the next whiff you're dead.

Patd -
It's why drilling rigs have wind socks by law. The blow out in the Tiemore Sea going on now, will probably kill you if you get down wind, and you're too close.

Patd -
This is the woman I referring to. Somewhere I read an account of how she put this team together. That's the yarn part.

Feb 2002 -
Persistent Toxic Gas Eruptions Plague Waters off Namibian Coast

Scarla Weeks of the University of Cape Town, South Africa and colleagues tracked the gas from afar using satellite imagery.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=persistent-toxic-gas-erup

The lobsters run out of the ocean when this happens.

'"market saturation".

I know, Rez -- when I first saw that map I was surprised at the numbers!

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/happy-labor-day.html#comment-258060

You are so right, patd. Shouting wolf is never a great idea.

Scarla Weeks, Ph.D.
Satellite Oceanographer
Centre for Marine Studies
University of Queensland, Australia

http://www.pbs.org/strangedays/aboutproject/production_bios_weeks.html

cbob, the first article on the hydrogyn sulfide bubbling up from the ocean reminded me of "rover" the big guard bubble in the prisoner series. here's the first escape where rover gets him (3 mins in)....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2kTg8hx_VY&feature=related

spooky stuff. thanks, i think. i'll keep an eye on the windsock from now on.

Toxic plume off Namibia.

For more than a century, people living along Namibia's Atlantic coast have reported frequent sulfurous submarine emanations, often accompanied by mass die-offs of fish and lobsters. Many scientists believe that these eruptions of methane and hydrogen sulfide, which are potent contributors to the greenhouse effect, are released by decaying blooms of phytoplankton that blanket the sea floor in meters-deep ooze.

Two years ago, researchers Andrew Bakun of the University of Miami, Florida, and Scarla Weeks of the University of Cape Town, South Africa, noticed that a respite from the eruptions coincided with a resurgence in local sardine stocks. Now, in the November Ecology Letters, they speculate that sardines were eating phytoplankton that might otherwise have drifted to the sea floor. If the link is proven, Bakun says Namibia's experience could serve as a warning to other areas with similar offshore conditions, such as Morocco and California.

http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/summary/306/5702/1678c

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All of this is several years old. This area is one of the most overfished places on earth. One thing is very clear, the chain here won't work without the small fish in mind boggling numbers to control the blooms.
The blooms will happen without the fish to graze them .

Patd -
They mine diamonds there using a ship that sucks everything off the sea floor, strain out the diamonds, and dump the rest back in the ocean .
Video of it will turn your stomach.

Diamonds are a Girl's Best Friend.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/happy-labor-day.html#comment-258022

"1860 Grandma (Anna Maria) Moses NY, primitive painter (Old Oaken Bucket)"

As Grandma Moses put it, "Paintin's not important. The important thing is keepin' busy."

Joseph Kennedy will not seek uncle's senate seat.

So it would seem that unless Ted's widow changes her mind & decides to run--for the first time in a very
long time---there will no longer be a Kennedy representing Massachusetts.

"My father called politics an honorable profession
and I have profound respect for those who choose to advance the causes of social & economic justice in elective office.

After much consideration, I have decided that the best way for me to contribute to those causes is by continuing my work at Citizens Energy Corporation."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/08/us/politics/08kennedy.html?hp

Collision course on health care legislation on track.

Sen. Max Baucus shared his long awaited proposal
for health care reform with a small number of Finance Committee members over Labor Day weekend.

As expected, it does not contain a 'public option', instead it would set up membership-run health insurance cooperatives, according to sources close to the negotiators.

Baucus did say that the plan is not the final draft & that he is willing to amend it over the next week.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/57523-baucus-plan-cheaper-taxes-insurance-companies

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/09/happy-labor-day.html#comment-258060

Pat,
Very good point.Oh god yes, they cried wolf and then some.I do hope those gun toting crazies start getting arrested!

And a less than optimistic article (that is putting it
mildly) from Matt Taibbi is now available. He does not
hold back. (It is a long piece)

"Sick and Wrong" How Washington is screwing up
health care reform - and why it may take a revolt to fix it.

Step One: Aim Low
Step Two: Gut the public option
Step Three: Pack it with loopholes
Step Four: Provide no leadership
Step Five: Blow the math

"It's a joke,the whole thing, a parody of Solomonic
governance.

Then again some of the blame has to go to all of us.

It's more than a little conspicuous that the same electorate that poured its heart out last year for the Hallmark-card story line of the Obama campaign has not been seen much in this health care debate.

The handful of legislators.....who are fighting for something real should be doing so with armies at their back.

Instead, all the noise is being made on the other side. Not so stupid after all---they, at least,
understand that politics is a fight that does not end with the wearing of a T-shirt in November."

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/29988909/sick_and_wrong

Wow ..... glad I went to the graveyard. Off to look at the rushes .

... from the looks of the picture here, he's still got the magic.

Obama thanks labor for hard-won rights at work
(Yahoo News) http://tinyurl.com/ltok54

Coreen, That article you linked on your last post holds nothing back, and you did a great post laying it out. Thanks for the great links.

"The system doesn't work for anyone. It cheats patients and leaves them to die, denies insurance to 47 million Americans, forces hospitals to spend billions haggling over claims, and systematically bleeds and harasses doctors with the specter of catastrophic litigation. Even as a mechanism for delivering bonuses to insurance-company fat cats, it's a miserable failure: Greedy insurance bosses who spent a generation denying preventive care to patients now see their profits sapped by millions of customers who enter the system only when they're sick with incurably expensive illnesses."

Best U-Tube clip I ever made.
Time to start the presses at the Shinebone Star.

" MR. PEABODY !!!!!!! "
" OHHHHH ........... MR. PEABODY !!!!!! "

" My God this place is a mess.
Somebody get some coffee going. "

CBob

You need to warm up the presses, there is a lot of Shinbone competition out there. :-)

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=HPIA,HPIA:2009-11,HPIA:en&q=Blog+Shinbone+Star

Flatus -
Back to your story about your daughter. I never made the jump to "Bi - Polar ". Being an old, white, male, Texacan , I stayed a " Manic - Depressive "..
" Manic - Depressive " is crazy with flames coming out the sides.

"Bi - Polar ", Well, it's computer language. It's a real box as a phrase.

I got it from my paternal grandfather, always loved my " Manics" ...
It was about 60/40 looking back. The " Depressives " ate huge blocks out of my life. I had a good mother , that gave me an edge, otherwise I'd be dead.

Senator Baucus and his plan to "Tax" the insurance companies is a joke.

The Democratic legislature recently passed a 1% tax on insurance companies.

They promptly announced an additional 1% added to already announced premium increases.

Let's get real.

Democratic legislature in Oregon that is...

Good article by Ariana Huffington about the Van Jones firing

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/thank-you-glenn-beck_b_278839.html

Last Night, the NBC anchorclown sub, lester holt, made a huge deal about the 'many' people who didn't want President Obama to 'indoctrinate' the children. He smirked all the way through the 'interviews'. holt looked stoned out of his mind. What a waste of organs.

Perhaps, Xrepublican, dear Lester needs that spliff to make it through a day of interviewing folk who think Obama is indoctrinating the children with the socialism? I know MY consumption has gone up in recent months...

;~D

Monday, September 7, 2009
Reporting from the Lubbock Cemetery on Buddy Holly's 73th Birthday
BY Colorado Bob & Tornado Larry

http://the-shin-bone-star.blogspot.com/2009/09/reporting-from-lubbock-cemetary-on.html