Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

Can to much debate kill it or can reading it kill it?

pretty good line-up tomorrow on WABC Imusville, USA.........first up Craig Crawford........then Dick Gregory...........and then Kinky Friedman.............

nothing like great radio in the morning........

Posted by: sturgeone Author Profile Page | July 30, 2009 9:35 AM

Back in the day, if we wanted to control costs, we would freeze them....perhaps, congress can put the health costs on hold by freezing them while they are vacation spending that lobbying money. Just stick 'em the freezer while you are gone, public servants.

More on these insane emails that are going around...this is the one about Obama wanting old people to kill themselves:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/republicans-lying-to-old_b_247400.html

it's simply mindboggling that something as smart as planning to make a living will is turned into an evil plot to murder Granny.

I think some of these Congressional clowns have had their brains in deep freeze mode for a long time, BlondeW...and maybe a good percentage of the populace, too -- cause they keep getting elected.

(Kidding aside, you're right -- put some price controls on the whole shebang!)

patsi...yep, the deathers movement...started by the same good Americans that started the birther movement about Obama's birth certificate. Smoke and mirrors....designed to take our eye off of the health care ball.

Soylent green, anyone?

bout time. ;-D

"If Congress really wants to pass health care, they would work through their August recess." In the immortal words of Bert Lahr - or was it the cowardly lion - could have been both - wait, it was, "Ain't it th' truth?"

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2009/07/30/us/politics/politics-us-food-safety-congress.html?_r=1

See, weak leadership in the house - debating a desperately needed measure under limited timeframe to avoid amendments without having the votes lined up to advance it.

patsi...it is the lack of conversation about freezing prices that concerns me. If HRC were domestically tasked with this, I bet she would have asked for some controls over cost.

Yep, just like government cheese, they will giving out soylent green to the poorer folks. The ultimate recycling plan. No need for cemetaries.

The biggest obstacle is the insurance companies so if you can't beat them join them. That's how its going & we all knew it would & that's why this bill or any bill which allows the insurance companies to profit will fail the peoples expectations. It cant be . Its either the insurance companies win or we win. One or the other.

Personally, the only time I feel good about anything coming out of Washington is when they are in recess........:)

buford..we have already lost. I saw it when Bingaman was on The Ed Show. We rapidly gave money to wall street, banks, auto industry, etc. and when we came to the public trough for our health care pitence...no money...nothing...and besides, you are a fat America and the cause of your own problems. Let us raise the insurance rates more!!

They have to go enjoy the fruits of our labor.

RFLMFAO

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/30/so-you-think-you-can-douc_n_247593.html

So you think you can douche? And of course - Glenn Beck takes the top honors, but with Hannity & Dobbs, the competition was fierce.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/07/congress-needs-staycation-to-p.html#comment-247997 "Its either the insurance companies win or we win."

That's it in a nut shell Buford.
And the only way we win is if we get Universal Health Care (single pay) and as a result, a lot of those companies go out of business (the majority of them?). But they have a lot of 'friends' in Washington (it's almost like they're 'part' of the government), so therefore that ain't gonna happen anytime soon.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/07/the-fdr-way-do-something.html#comment-247930
Carol, I've been wondering where Ivy is too.
ps Now Maggie's got you trained! (I already knew that... who we kidding, these animals are smarter than us.

Carol, I've been wondering where Ivy is too.
ps Now Maggie's got you trained! (I already knew that... who we kidding, these animals are smarter than us.

weird

Just like the recession was brought on by us. We were living to high on the hog.

Stewart was good last night and John Oliver did a good piece on Geithner's home for sale.

"the only time I feel good about anything coming out of Washington is when they are in recess........:)"

LOL Jax. You may have something there!

"We were living to high on the hog. "

Whose fault was that though?

Buford,

Don't look at recessions as something bad. Everyone needs a breather....so do economies.......Just don't look to gov't to pull out of this or any recession. The private sector will get it's act together.....like it has so many recessions before.

" If HRC were domestically tasked with this, I bet she would have asked for some controls over cost."

I think she'd have known the Republicans were not going to play nice, that's for sure.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/07/congress-needs-staycation-to-p.html#comment-247994

Pogo, they're incredibly obtuse. I can believe they would call a question without knowing the answer. And, it's time for playing hardball with the Republicans. Their leadership simply is not a loyal opposition, while many in their rank and file would like to be.

This Congress is so incredibly weak at a time when we need strength and vision.

As I said before, sequester the whole bunch at Andrews AFB until they hammer out a solution.

Ka-ching.

http://blogs.reuters.com/frontrow/2009/07/29/media-barred-from-palins-post-gubernatorial-debut/

That didn't take long - keep your eyes open for the cell phone video.

Jax, The only thing you've ever said that's really turned me complete off is that you blamed our problems on the 'entire' baby boomers population. A whole generation Jax! That's bizarre and it's transference. You usually are so good about the accountability thing, taking responsibility for what's going on.

Besides, it's always been the politicians that drive the bus. How much have we ever had to say about things. You have said often that we should revolt, let them know we want to change things. But how? Have you ever figured out a way to control the political decisions made by our government?

You're rarely rude. But that baby boomer cop out was rude.

Patsi,

This is a fact......I know its not popular to point this out but the fact is....not ONE single republican vote is needed in either house to pass any legislation.....not ONE......

So if it makes you feel better to blame it on Repubs then so be it......

Chloe,
Haven't been on in a couple of weeks so not sure what context I said it but I'll go with it.

I stand by my opinion that the U.S. boomer generation, taken as a whole is the most pampered, entitled, and self-gratifying group to date in our history........

Don't worry.....I'm sure some later generation will eclipse them.

Just an opinion......

jax...babyboomer soylent green is loaded with fat. Unhealthy food legacy continues.

What's soylent green????

No money for health care plenty for defense contractors

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/29/AR2009072902676.html?nav=rss_email/components

jax

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green

Soylent Green is a science fiction movie. Overpopulated world where people are turned into protein for consumption by other people. Stars Charleton Heston and actually a pretty good film

"What's soylent green????"

Surely you jest.

Oh, Jax -- I most assuredly don't blame just the Repubs....the Blue Dogs are in this mess too.

Soylent Green is People!

famous quote from the movie...

Blue Dogs are incredibly vulnerable in their districts--at each election the Repugs toss dollars atop of dollars in efforts to malign and defeat them.

The Dogs should be embraced and supported as fellow Democrats operating under quite adverse circumstances.

If they are under pressure from their constituents on a difficult question, support them, Not with a bunch of super-liberals coming to their districts, but with real facts and figures and prominent thinkers articulating the need for the Democratic position on the legislation.

Kind of a precursor to the Matrix.....:)

You can say that, and ignore the accomplishments of an entire generation? It's the generation that worked hardest on civil rights and it's the generation that was 'sent' to die in Vietnam.

You honestly thing the boomer generation was more pampered than the generation that followed?

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/07/congress-needs-staycation-to-p.html#comment-247985

Sturgeone,

That does sound like a great line up. I shall be snoozing sweetly in the west coast Washington. Hope there is a podcast.

IMHO, the SG movie is much better than The Matrix series. More realistic in this day of processed food. 2022 is not that far away, Americans.

Chloe,
Need another 10-15 years to see. The boomers kids might be.....

Blonde,
So do the good guys win in the end...?

Now, insult to injury.

I'm just trying to get into the mentality of someone who blames others for his problems and the problems of the entire current generation. Harsh judgment of others is just a way of avoiding responsibility.

My opinion.

Like I said yesterday and today, the biggest problem is weak leadership in Congress. If the leadership actually supported the Obama initiatives, they would pass. Repugs, annoying as they are, are not the problem. The problem is two-fold IMHO - Harry doesn't have the leadership chops to get enough blue dogs to support cloture votes before the bills get diluted so much in committee that they become legislative pablum, and Nancy has no control over her committee chairs, to the same result. The underlying problem is money - wrt health insurance reform, the health insurance lobby owns the folks who are f-ing this up. Max Baucus is a prime example his favorite music is the siren song of the medical lobby. I beleive it's a lost cause, and Obama doesn't seem to be getting into the fray to try and move it back to something of substance. I think the leadership he could show would be to veto the damn watered down piece of crap that comes out of conference and send his bill, with at least a public option, back to Congress with clear nessage that no bill wtihout the public option will ever get his signature. Problem is this - 80% of the public is happy with what they have - kinda makes "explain your vote against reform to yor constituents" meaninglless. I don't know, maybe Rahm is twisting arms, but if so, he needs a stronger grip.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/07/congress-needs-staycation-to-p.html#comment-247988

Patsi,

The Congressman who put it in is from Oregon which is a POLST state. The POLST is even easier than a living will as it is a two sided form your primary care physician has on hand in their office. You keep a copy in your papers and the local hospital has access on computer. Washington is a POLST state as well, so I have one. Easy peezy and saves a lot of anguish.

http://www.ohsu.edu/polst/

All it says in the healthcare bill is that the counseling appointment will be covered by insurance. My doctor does it with all the patients not just the seniors. You never know when you might take a header off a motorcycle.

Chloe,
I think you're taking my comments personally....step back.....they aren't intended that way....:)

Soylent Green trailer for the year 2022

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVpN312hYgU

You tube has the climactic scene "Soylent Green is People" as well.

I know they're not intended that way. I'm not taking them personally. I just think you are assigning blame in the wrong places.

Am I supposed to listen to a sweeping statement like that, and bite my tongue?

Don't bite your tongue, Chloe...unless you have good insurance.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/07/congress-needs-staycation-to-p.html#comment-248008

Jax,

The problem now is that the system is structured to undercut small business. Except for those most local of businesses that cannot be perfomed elsewhere, the loans and tax breaks go to the big guys.

LOL Blonde!
Have you ever known me to bite my tongue?
(I'm sure there are a lot of people that wish like hell I would) :)

Chloe,
It's just an opinion......Gotta run......I'm enforcing a personal rationing of my blog exposure. It's been working for a few weeks......:)

Have a good day Jax.

Speak your mind, Chloe!

I can walk away with an understanding of "soylent green".......:)

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/07/congress-needs-staycation-to-p.html#comment-248014

Jax

Yep this lazy boomer worked for 50 years. The ex husband worked for 40 years. The children have worked all of their adult lives including one who spent 20 years in the US Army, both are still working. As with any generality, some truth but not enough to make a generality.

Spoiled not so much, but the government that undercut them that meant women went into the workforce to have the same standard of living as their parents and then neglected children, schools, hospitals, all those other things they used to do for "free". A sad divorce rate when a lot of the women found out they could provide for themselves without being chattal. Again neglected children, schools, hospitals and other stuff they used to do for free.

The rise of the fast food generation because it was easier to stuff them on the way home from work and give in to them being spoiled just for some peace before you have to go back to work.

My you could make a case that what is wrong is a spoiled generation X. Are you one of the "spoiled".

Patsi,,,,,for comment of this month,,,and for the next, and for...........

"I think some of these Congressional clowns have had their brains in deep freeze mode for a long time, BlondeW...and maybe a good percentage of the populace, too -- cause they keep getting elected.."

If the R's were as dumb as most think that they are...how come Gore, and Kerry lost, does not matter why the did, they did. So the R's don't look so dumb to the public. They will not look as dumb as the new Dems in charge, that can't do anything at all. They must do something now...or loose the advantage that they have. Then for the next 30 years tell us how dumb the R's are.....as T ony say's .....you ( the public) funny!

Thats a great question....why do we keep sending them back to rob us.....whoes fault is it in the first place? etc. etc. I keep thinking ( to the point that it was hurting my head so much ...that I told Judy ...not tonight ..my head hurts...she did not care HA) and my head just kept on hurting,,and hurting....what Democrate would I really want to be in the white house today......I finally got it.

Al Franken.......the new Senator. I truly think that he is the only one there to serve his county, not to serve his Greedy needs...I do think that he will never bow down the special int. groups like ALL the others did.

Chloe,

I know that you did that on purpose.!

Carol,

That is perfect...what you said about coming here to learn,,listen, and have an open mind ,,and change it when someone helps you do so.....that is one of the reasons that im here. Thanks

Chloe,

That should have been.

I know that you did that on purpose.

I know that you did that on purpose.

That should read I worked for 40 years. It just felt like 50.

"Staycation"... good one, Craig. Those tickets to Aruba are non-refundable!

Last autumn, I believe Mudcat stated, Obama doesn't appear to fight for the little guy. He is not a fighter. This is painfully true.

His roots are in community organzing and he treats the healthcare problem like his election. He needs to get tough and go back to his comrades in the Senate and demand action and quickly. No one is going to bat for the little people like they did for Wall Street.

And if Obama keeps drinking and smoking, I think he is in the starting days of addiction. It sneaks-up on you and you are not getting any younger, Prez O.

Solar?
What does that mean?
I did what on purpose?

.... morning Solar.
Lunch!

Here is one of the problems as I see it. I saw where C-Bob said yesterday ( I hardly ever disagree with him at all-but) he said something while defending Obama.

That we should remember that if the old man, and crazy (some thing like that..sorry for being lazy, and not getting the right quote) we would have some one worse.

That is a big problem to me,,,why did he, or people that think along those lines not vote for a third choice.

Team Sports...thinking.....is not the way we should pick our politicians. There would be a third party if we all did not line up, just to vote straight Dem, or Repug. IMO, in the long run, it is our faults. They play us like a fine tuned fiddle.!!!!!!

Chloe,

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/07/congress-needs-staycation-to-p.html#comment-248002

I thought that you wrote the same thing twice....like " you can say that again"

And itls is too early to claim Lunch......eat a cracker so you won't go hungry until it time to go to LUNCH....hahaha...actually this is way to early also...so im going to eat a cracker too.

Sorry, morning Chloe, buenos dias a todos, good morning to all.

That should have read......If the Old man (Mac ) and the crazy lady, Palin. were if office that it would be worse right now,,and that it was a lot better that Obama is there now.

'I thought that you wrote the same thing twice....like " you can say that again"

Dang, I wish I had thought of that! It would have been a good excuse for my stupid error (how it happened, I have no idea),

I know it's too early for lunch Solar. But I also knew that if I didn't say it then, I'd never be first. Don't spoil my fun.

Carol,
It just started pouring down rain here a couple of minutes ago. Came out of no where with no sign it was on the way. When it rains here, it rains like I've never seen any place else in my life.

I figure it will hit you next, or else it's been there and left.
Not to worry about Maggie, no thunder or lightning.

"Al Franken.......the new Senator. I truly think that he is the only one there to serve his county, not to serve his Greedy needs...I do think that he will never bow down the special int. groups like ALL the others did."

I agree, Solar!

"They play us like a fine tuned fiddle.!!!!!!"

That's because it's so hard to get to the truth Solar. When the campaigns became 'one' with the media, where to we go for facts. We may get to the truth as individuals, but how do we coordinate our findings with the general public.

BW

While I was operating a construction machine the other day, it occurred to me that.....all business are required to have insurance in order to be awarded a contract. This insurance it reasonably priced, and covers my workers and my self, and it vary s by the what is needed for that particular project.

If all of us in biz, are required and it is affordable,,,why could our H C. ins do the same, or transfer this cost and make it part of it all??? maybe Warren, and some of the other can help refine this?

Carol,

Give Maggie some of that though love, that you give some of here, don't give into her, she will come out sooner or later, just like us.........got a cookie for me?

Solar...bingo, but you continue to see this through the eyes of the insurance maze. We must take the profit out of speading around the risk because these guys do not play fair. They make Madoff and his ponzi scheme look elementary. Insurance is a mega-ponzi scheme.

Sea,

The same thing for you....can I get a chocolate kiss? hahahaa

Jack,

nothing from you....just a handshake for all of us will do-thanks.

"Insurance is a mega-ponzi scheme. "

It surely is. When I think of all the money I paid in and almost never even went to a doctor -- then with one broken shoulder and a lot of BS -- lost it. So what I did all those years, was pay someone else's doctor bills. And they are probably the same bastards who now say: "Well, people who work HAVE insurance."

Patsi..you didn't pay someone's doctor bills, you paid for a retreat for executives to figure out how to bilk more customers. Profit is poison in health care.

Public option is the only way...do you know how I know? The fight against it is so hard. Private insurance industry knows this.

During the recess, health care costs will rise higher than before and by the time recess is over, we will be paying more.

I want to follow an uncomfortable thought up here.....my workers and friends have told me that I take the bull by the antlers often....I get burned, sometimes...but here goes:

It was easy to take sides when Brian was abusive to the ones that I cared for deeply. I did not have a problem telling Burrito to pea up a rope........but I found it impossible tot take sides when....Jack, Carol, and Sea was arguing, and I won't do it now.....I care for them all and won't do that....I tried several times to get them, and all of us to take a look at the bigger picture...the system is what is wrong.....and Obama,,,still looks weak minded to me. for evening answering the question.

I know that it will be hard for someone to take sides with me, against another person that. Sea, Jack, or Carol, is also friends with, and cares for the few of us that are arguing.

I have been talking about the R's and The D's just picking a side and defending it.......no matter what......I think that this is the problem that society has....when they pick our leaders to represent us. I believe that this is what is wrong with organizes MYTH religion.....just one against the other......I do think that all sides had it right.....and that it was far to early to give a final judgment.....this is what I think went wrong ....we were all to fast on the draw...and did not wait for all of the info to come out........

Thought for the day :
" Too many pray for peace with their fists clenched. "

"you didn't pay someone's doctor bills, you paid for a retreat for executives to figure out how to bilk more customers. "

No doubt true -- and I'd rather have paid for a doctor bill!

Some very good points, Solar....

".I do think that all sides had it right..."

That's always true. It's what I have been saying for so long.
Because of that, we can have opposing opinions, and both be right. Or wrong.

I still think, (as always, just my opinion), we were talking about different things sometimes. You can support a cop and also support the fact that police brutality and abuse is a fact of life.

In my thinking, everything we say here is an 'opinion'. When we start mistakenly assuming that there is only one way to think about things, we're kidding ourselves.

If I want facts, I'll spend the day reading Wikipedia and other such information.

1933 Edd "Kookie" Byrnes LA, actor (77 Sunset Strip, Jack the Ripper)
1939 Peter Bogdanovich director/producer (The Last Picture Show)
1940 Patricia Schroeder (Rep-D-Colo)
1941 Paul Anka Ottawa Ontario, singer (Put Your Head on My Shoulder)
1945 David Sanborn saxophonist (David Letterman)

1619 House of Burgesses Virginia formed, 1st elective US governing body
1729 City of Baltimore founded
1839 Slave rebels, take over slaver Amistad
1863 Pres Lincoln issues "eye-for-eye" order to shoot a rebel prisoner
for every black prisoner shot
1928 George Eastman demonstrates 1st color movie
1946 1st rocket attains 100 mi (167 km) altitude, White Sands, NM
1948 Professional wrestling premiers on prime-time network TV (DuMont)
1956 US motto "In God We Trust" authorized
1967 Race riot in Milwaukee (4 killed)
1968 Beatles' Apple Boutique closes, entire inventory is given away
1971 George Harrison releases "Bangladesh"
1974 House of Reps recommends 3 articles of impeachment of Nixon
1975 Teamsters Pres Jimmy Hoffa disappears in suburban Detroit
1984 Alvenus tanker at Cameron La, spills 2.8 million gallons of oil

Craig.. A+ - In our world we call it a Workcation. In fact that is what I am doing the next few days....
Yea for cell phones and 3G wireless connections for my computer !!

Ya think they will actually read the bill this time?

Something is wrong with the "Party of the People". More Republicans tweet than Democrats.

http://tweetcongress.org/parties

Since we're being brave and saying what we want here, then there's something I have to say.

I didn't see Carol call anyone names, or condemn anyones view or opinions, or go after anyone personally. I never heard her say there is not police brutality. To the contrary, she talked about her awareness of it in many cases.

Carol was criticized for talking about the point of view she was pondering at the time. She never claimed it was the only point of view to think about, but it just happened to be the one that she felt like exploring at the time. I agreed with her on most of it.

Everyone should be able to talk about what they want to talk about, without fear of being ganged up on by others, on a personal level. Disagreement is expected. Comments about the commenter should be off limits.

Things you would probably never ever know if you don't follow "History Tweeter"

Six Famous Eunuchs

http://www.ablogabouthistory.com/2009/07/30/6-famous-eunuchs/

Chloe,
"That's because it's so hard to get to the truth Solar. When the campaigns became 'one' with the media, where to we go for facts. We may get to the truth as individuals, but how do we coordinate our findings with the general public."

First of all, the public already knows the truth, they just wait to be sold by one party or the other.......they know that there is no choice except one or the other........and the the media know this....this is why they play Fox, and friends ( the R's) and the Msnbc's (the D's) against the other......same goes for news papers.........

Now that we have the new world of Internet news.....blogs.....this is also becoming a game for two.......who out there is talking about the independents? The third parties ....the people other than the few who let us down so often.....

Chloe we know already, but are too lazy ( as a nation) go take the time to be objective...we are more than willing for the stations to pick our candidates while we bitch for them doing it....that is why all of the late night clowns have all of the power that they do...and the radio stations....we are just a bunch of sheep to them....we know,,,,but don't care...we are lazy is al.

"Comments about the commenter should be off limits."

Rats! Does this mean I can't call Jack a Slum Lord? :)

(I have his permission to do that....)

Seriously, I've never seen Carol say a mean thing about anyone. Ever.

"we are more than willing for the stations to pick our candidates while we bitch for them doing it..."

Solar, Can I disagree with you without you attacking me. :)

Patsi, Maybe I should have said off limits to use to support your argument. Call Jack a slumlord, but don't use it to win an argument. Make sense?

Solar, if you want to see change in the political system such that it goes away from the 2 party system, you'll have to take big money out of it. I may be wrong, but I do believe that there is always the potential for a third party espousing this or that issue to get enough traction to put a few folks in Congress and elect some state and local officials, but that can't be done without money, and lots of it. Obama's small contribution model employed in the primaries is one that a third party could utilize to minimize the effect of big money on the system, at least within the ranks of that party, but it would be a nearly impossible task.

Oh, and I can't tell whether you or chloe legitimately claimed lunch - so in the off chance neither of you did, LUNCH.

Now the real LUNCH!

Great blog piece on the insane actions of the Blue Dogs

http://www.lastchancedemocracycafe.com/?p=2472

..... drats!...See what I mean?

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/07/congress-needs-staycation-to-p.html#comment-248074

ditto!

Chloe, Patsi

Me three about Carol.

Carol, Hear that?
We love you!

BW, fuel for the fire.

House Bill Poised to Spend Billions on Weapons Pentagon Doesn’t Want
At Least $6.9 Billion in Unwanted Equipment in Bill

Forced to eat this shit......up. This next 2 paragraph is what the truth to it all is to me!!!!!!!!

Expect to come to the House floor by the end of the week, the 2010 military budget still includes at least $6.9 billion in spending on weapons that the Defense Department has insisted that it doesn’t need or even want.

Though the administration managed to get some of the earmarks for the F-22A aircrafts redistributed to weapons that it might feasibly use in some sort of actual war, the bill is still packed with earmarks which would help military contractors in the districts of key legislators.

Among the expenditures are $400 million to finish the construction of five VH-71 presidential helicopters which the presdient says he doesn’t want. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates has mocked the helicopters for over-elaborate design and ridiculous costs, noting they would “enable the president to, among other things, cook dinner while in flight under nuclear attack.”

Congressmen in support of the bill claim that they have been secretly told by military contacts that the devices are needed in spite of the Pentagon’s insistance that they aren’t needed. Rep. Jeff Flake (R-AZ) has promised to lead the fight against the earmarks, aiming to force a string of votes on what he says amount to “no-bid contracts” handed out to private companies.

Rooting for a Repug.....will be new to me.....GO Rep, J. Flake....GO

Pogo,

Agreed with you last post about the Money.....like I said.....the natural law party had a lot of local "elected" people in place...they were doing it right ..imho...starting from the ground up....it took years to get to the point where they were.

Prof. Haglen ran in all of the elections ....except for the last two.....what dove him out it the $ that it took to run.....so now we have to do it from the inside of the two partys .......we have to pick the best ones from both the R;s and The D's...take a look at them on a one by one basis...starting at the ground floor, city and state just saying...no? and you are rigt...Lunch was never legitamily claimed today...and all ties goes to the old members ...just a little perk for being there first.......I have to learn to stop when im ahead....LOL...gonna get it from them. Hey how come im the only one that is always in trouble????

Chole,

"Solar, Can I disagree with you without you attacking me. :)"

Only one way to find out!

Weapons of mass destruction, weapons of mass infection....the money is there for health care delivery and reform.

uh oh, chloe - looks like we had a tie . Solar, mediate, please.

Amsterdam: O'Reilly Factor vs. reality

http://www.boingboing.net/2009/07/29/amsterdam-oreilly-fa.html

""Al Franken.......the new Senator. I truly think that he is the only one there to serve his county, not to serve his Greedy needs...I do think that he will never bow down the special int. groups like ALL the others did."

I agree, Solar!"

Well - that is either because Al Franken is a rich actor who has made enough money and therefore is not beholden to any interest group.

(Or - it is just because Al Franken is a good actor ; )

Pogo, thanks for your excellent analysis way back here:
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/07/congress-needs-staycation-to-p.html#comment-248030

You are indeed my kind of Boomer :)

Good,

Now we are having the conversation that we should have.

I have never seen Carol be mean spirited towards others...she is alway generous with all of us.

I have never seen Sea be mean spirited toward other..........she is
always generous with all of us.

I have seen Jack in some scraps with all of us.......and can relate to what he was saying....not the personal comments....but what I know to be the truth of what he was trying to say......specially....that if someone did not get it...then they never could.....he was talking from the heart...and has been there to defend the ones that he was talking about.......If there were more people like him that got involved, we would not be having this ( as much) problem in our society.....there is a lot to think about for me, not just who is right...and who said what to whom......that is a little troubling, but not if you see the big picture that he painted......

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/07/congress-needs-staycation-to-p.html#comment-248085

Blondie, you bet.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/07/congress-needs-staycation-to-p.html#comment-248073

Dang!
Patsi, You once said I might one of the few you'd allow to call you an old hag. I holding that chit for just the right time. :-)

Carol,

You are involved every single day...and also have a handle on this....a little different handle.....cos of all the experience of being were you are....not wrong or right to me....just difference......ok going to shut up now, and hope that i did some good, and not stir anything up again.......Judy always gets a little angry with me, whenever I say stir....at first it was my accent (30 years ago) it comes out like stear....she doesn't know that I do it on poipose!!

On the other hand......she never rounds off to the nearest dollar...not even when itls 99 cents.....that irks the hell otta me.....I wonder.......

Rez,

Same here with Patsi....only mine is the motorized broom she uses some times........later....look like I came on strong today.....but lets get it out of the way.......

Warren,

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/07/congress-needs-staycation-to-p.html#comment-248088

Naw........I could see genuine anger in him.....about the abuse that comes out of the political critters, did just what most say....change it from the inside....I don't think that money, or power motivates him....lets hope that he stays angry for a long...long time..........

Hey...and good afternoon! Now i am needing to leave for a few minutes, and confess have not read up the posts, but just encountered an open letter to our friends in DC from the Canadians...

http://www.healthcare-now.org/canadian-union-writes-obama-congress-defending-canada’s-healthcare/

shall return..

Chloe,

There is nothing that you could say, disagree with me about, nada, that would cause me to attack you..........period.....so give it me. I might say something about it, and let it drop afterwords. In all likley hood , you will have merit in your comment, so there will be nothing much to disagree about. There is nothing that you say....that can change my thinking towards you.....nothing,!

Oh, and if you keep in the back of your mind, when talking to Jax....that he is always thinking of the lost portion of money lost to him and his family.... when he is talking about government, waste or not waste....he thinking of how many cars, how many things toilets (extra ones ) that he could have had in the houses,,,and how much is going to be lost to them in the future......He forgets that a lot of the boomers put in place some of the laws of biz that he enjoys......

White Roofs Catch On as Energy Cost Cutters

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/30/science/earth/30degrees.html?_r=1&ref=science

Thanks Flatus. I try. Frankly, I am frustrated by the dems failing to give as good as they have gotten in the past. Their misguided support for the Bushian view of all things related to 9/11 and its aftermath has been rewarded with parrty line responses to all things. The 60 vote illusion (thanks not to the idies, but rather to the Blud Dogs - read DINO here) has been mischaracterized by the right, knowing that they have the Senate Blue dogs at a minimum to obstruct any real change. The argument that "the dems have a majority in the house and enough votes in the senate to overcome a filibuster , so they can pass any law they want" is dishonest, and those making that argument know that. Fact is, as long as the Blue Dogs exist, and they will, any change that can be considered progressive will be incremental, if at all. And it pisses me off.

July 30 (Bloomberg) -- William Grant & Sons Distillers Ltd., the maker of Glenfiddich whisky, today released a 50-year aged version of the liquor that will sell for 10,000 pounds ($16,000), making it the second-most expensive in the world.

Glenfiddich 50 Year Old, equally priced to the family- owned company’s most expensive whisky ever, will be released in 500 individually numbered, hand-blown glass bottles adorned with Scottish silver and packaged in leather-bound cases, the Dufftown, Scotland-based distiller said today.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601093&sid=agn9kiqcLGMg

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/07/the-fdr-way-do-something.html#comment-247964

sturge, absolutely don't agree. yes, they should acknowledge her as the good citizen she is and maybe send her flowers or each a case of their favorite beer.
the reason for not inviting her is that she would have to bring her attorney along and then it would behoove the other folks to bring their lawyers. do you get the picture i'm painting? the lawyers will argue over everything and stifle conversation of the principles. probably even demand wine, then argue over color, year and vineyard. or being the ilk they are, advise the clients that talking while drinking (twd) is risky and inevitably leads to donnybrooks given the irish ancestery of all concerned (except the lady who is portuguese and knows better).

"So do the good guys win in the end...?"

jax, with regard to soylent green, it's a matter of taste so to speak.

"(Or - it is just because Al Franken is a good actor ; )"

HA! Actually there's another show biz type I think actually gives a damn -- Jerry Springer. But his chances are zip after that show. Made him a gazillionaire, but ruined anything more in politics.

" have seen Jack in some scraps with all of us......."

Solar -- just wanted to make sure you knew that I was joking with Jack the other day.

(Reuters) - The United States spends more on healthcare than any other country in the world but has higher rates of infant mortality, diabetes and other ills than many other developed countries.

Here is a comparison of the United States' healthcare costs versus those of selected other countries in 2006:

UNITED STATES: 15.9 pct of GDP, $6,657 per capita

BRAZIL: 7.9 pct of GDP, $371 per capita

CANADA: 9.7 pct of GDP, $3,430 per capita

CHINA: 4.7 pct of GDP, $81 per capita

FRANCE: 11.1 pct of GDP, $3,807 per capita

GERMANY: 10.7 pct of GDP, $3,628 per capita

INDIA: 5.0 pct of GDP, $36 per capita

ISRAEL: 7.9 pct of GDP, $1,533 per capita

JAPAN: 8.2 pct of GDP, $2,936 per capita

MEXICO: 6.4 pct of GDP, $474 per capita

SOUTH AFRICA: 8.7 pct of GDP, $437 per capita

SWEDEN: 8.9 pct of GDP, $3,598 per capita

RUSSIAN FEDERATION: 5.2 pct of GDP, $277 per capita

UNITED KINGDOM: 8.2 pct of GDP, $3,064 per capita

http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUSTRE5504Z320090601?pageNumber=1&virtualBrandChannel=0

"weapons of mass infection"

CLASSIC! Thanks, Ms. Blonde!

Rez & Solar -- okay, I'm giving you two yahoos a pass....for now. But watch yourselves...:)

cbob, wish they'd also work up the numbers on how much per capita we spend on healthcare insurance. or does that $6657 you quoted above include cost of insurance plus cost of the actual care?

Pogo -- I'm a bit enamored of your typo: "Blud Dogs." Can we change it to "Blood Dogs" for their roll on health care resistance?

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/07/congress-needs-staycation-to-p.html#comment-248101

i was sorely tempted in the above to refer to her as a wise latina, but didn't want to rekindle the portuguese/latino flames.

sturge, the balls in your court.... so to speak again.

Reverend Ike dies at 74; preached gospel of prosperity

http://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/la-me-reverend-ike30-2009jul30,0,1769574.story

This is a pretty good update article on the swine flu
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/gurley/detail?entry_id=44301&tsp=1

obsessive handing washing
and keeping your hands away from your face

and apparently humidity is a good thing

On July 30, 1945, the heavy cruiser USS INDIANAPOLIS, which had just delivered to Tinian components of the atomic bomb that would be dropped on Hiroshima just days later, was sunk by Japanese torpedoes in the Pacific.

It's kind of a personal story for me, because it involves a local boy and my late dad's memories of him, so I'm gonna indulge in a SHAMELESS SELF-PROMOTION ALERT--I wrote a four part blog series about it last year.

http://fairweatherlewis.blogstream.com/v1/pid/328792.html#TP

That's the link to the first post, and the others follow it consecutively. If you care to read it, just click on "next post" at the bottom of each and that'll get you to the next one.

Now back to lurkin'--

About Time: Defense Committee earmarks under ethics investigation

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/30/AR2009073001431.html?nav=rss_email/components

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/07/congress-needs-staycation-to-p.html#comment-248113

KT Shameless blog promotion when you write something great is a link worth having. :-) I have you on my regular rounds anyway..

Wow! Just read KT's link on the Indianapolis. Go read. She did a great job with a fascinating story.

KT Shameless blog promotion when you write something great is a link worth having. :-) I have you on my regular rounds anyway..

Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com

Thank you, Jamie!:) (And I used the fancy "shameless self-promotion alert" dodge because I wasn't sure what Craig would say if I called it what it is--"pimpin' my blog. (^_~))

GIANT JELLYFISH PICTURES: Japan's Nomura Invasion

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/07/photogalleries/giant-jellyfish-invasion-japan-pictures/index.html

Wow! Just read KT's link on the Indianapolis. Go read. She did a great job with a fascinating story.

Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com | July 30, 2009 3:23 PM

Many thanks, dear heart. Many, many thanks.:)

"Although there are no official estimates yet on crop loss, a severe outbreak of late blight fungus in tomatoes, first noted in June, is sweeping through farms and gardens in the Northeast.

John Mishanec, an educator with the integrated pest management program at Cornell University, compared the highly contagious and incurable disease to a “nuclear explosion” in the region’s tomato crop. “And unless the weather changes, it’s going to get worse,” he said.

Every state in the Northeast and mid-Atlantic has confirmed recent cases of late blight, which normally does not appear in the region until August, if at all. The source of the outbreak is being investigated by pathologists. Home gardens likely helped spread the infection: Lowe’s, Home Depot, Kmart and Wal-Mart all sold tomato seedlings with late blight in their garden centers from April to June. All are offering refunds or credits to gardeners who must destroy their plants."
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/29/dining/29toma.html?ref=dining

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/07/congress-needs-staycation-to-p.html#comment-248109

Patsi, RFL - absolutely, blood dogs it is.

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Wonderful - wanna guess whether I got my 'mater plants at one of them? Hint - Lowe's

Pogo

Oops. I wonder if any of the commercial growers will sue
and if would be interesting to know if they all bought there starts from the same nursery.

Sonoma County is having a great tomato season.

Lubbock celebrated one our departed guitar heroes last night out in our courtyard . His name was Jesse Taylor was Joe Ely's lead guitar for several years.

Here's some really good pics of the thing from one of our friends Craig Kelly -
Jesse Fest 2009
http://notsoseriousproductions.zenfolio.com/p584154028

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/30/us/politics/30poll.html?hp

See, here's the problem for the Repugs - they think politics is zero sum game - it's not.

"By 55 percent to 26 percent, respondents said Mr. Obama had better ideas about how to change health care than Republicans in Congress did."

Yet Rep lies about losing health care, paying more taxes, government standing between you and your doctor, and other such unsubstantiated bullshit are getting some traction.

Actually, KC, so far, so good with the 'maters - my tomatoes are just now starting to plump up, and I haven't noticed any spots, rot or anything else - and I am pretty far west - only an hour from Ohio.

Well, LP has a golf tourney - so I gotta go drive a cart. later dudes and dudettes.

Jesse Fest looks very cool, C-Bob....

Ms. Cracker -

That's why I have a greenhouse. The 200 plus tomato seedlings I grew are looking really good . Some are as tall as my chest .

Rez -
We got another 1 3/8 of rain here.
I don't know what you're doin', but it's working.

Hello all, just a hit and run- am in america, chocolate machine broke last night so did an emergency trip to the factory today. you would have enjoyed the scene this morning Solar, up to my elbows in chocolate emptying the thing out. What a mess, but it does have potential. Anyways my sone drove me and he stopped at an japple shop and they told me to jump on a computer and here i am. it is much nicer than mine, but there sure are a lot of people in here. think i'll leave, bye to all
ps- jamie, loved your "i love bats"- i got to check in regular to see what else you'll pull out of the hat. bye, closterphobia, americaphobia setting in.

I find it interesting that Drudge did not report Seattle breaking 2 all time temperature records yesterday. They set one the night before with a new all time high minimum record as well as the one during the day.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/07/congress-needs-staycation-to-p.html#comment-248100

CBob

Fascinating, but even if I had the money, I wouldn't buy Scotch to stare at it. :-)

Cbob,

I already told this story about an old friend (old timer) from years ago. He had a rep for being a bit of an orphic and showman to boot. Think Chief Dan George here.

It seems he was prevailed upon (and paid too) by the city fathers of a small OK community to perform a Rain Dance during an extended drought.

I guess he went through a hour-long ceremony that included singing and praying, but especially a lot of dancing. Later that evening there was an un-forecasted downpour that would of strangled a frog (thx sturg).

Years later he asked to do it again but declined. When asked why he confided that he couldn't remember all of the dance moves.8-)

Another true tale from the rez.

Hey all.... haven't read the thread.... don't have time....

just coming on for a moment to tell all you birders that someone at the fair is a glass blower that specializes in hummingbird feeders. I asked him if he knew anything about there being fewer hummingbirds this year. He said he'd noticed it in his own garden and emailed dr. somebody (I forget the name) who is considered one of the world's foremost authorities on hummers and was told that it is a natural cyclical down year for hummers. Not to worry, they'll be plentiful again soon.

I want to thank you guys for the support today. You guys are more important to me than you may think. Jack is important to me. That is why I got my feelers hurt.

Jack I think you are funny. You are about the only person who can crack me up with only one word. It is usually the one perfect word response when you do it. You have a good heart. I respect the work and effort you make with your neighbors.

One morning I read that you missed having me to talk to that morning. I had gotten up late that morning and didn’t have time to check in. I felt good all day when I read that. I wouldn’t have been as hurt if someone like Brian had said mean things to me even though I don’t think he ever did.

I don’t expect anyone to agree with me. When I debate things, as I said this morning, I’m not even sure if I agree with me yet. With the issue that is the subject of this controversy, I tried to imagine myself in the cops place because not many were doing that.

With my job I am certainly aware that cops can and do abuse their power. I too often have to take care of the results of it. At my correctional center/jail, some even like to show me who wears the pants around there. I think the ones who do it are resentful of my education but it is not because I flaunt it.

I know that education is not an indicator of intelligence. One of the smartest guys I ever knew never made it past the 7th grade. Education can sometimes get in the way of intelligence and some of my best learning didn’t come from any classrooms or books, it came from my life experiences.

Another thing that hurt was that others seemed to say harsher things than I did and didn’t get the pounding I got. I feel that it may not be as much what I said as just that it was me saying it. I can’t make you like me Jack and I’m sure I can find a way to live with that fact if you don’t. It won’t be easy though.

Later that evening there was an un-forecasted downpour that would of strangled a frog (thx sturg).~~Rezdog

One of my dad's favorite expressions for a hard rain, Rez--only he called it a "toadstrangler.":)

RR...thank you for the update on the hummers, it actually is good news.

Fair's song of the day

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc7nr982b78

for the way the sky looks after a little bitty thunderboomer.

kt, Notice, I was trying to credit sturg . I butchered his use of it in the previous thread.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/07/the-fdr-way-do-something.html#comment-247949

Ha! Rockefeller just on the Ed Show opposing coops because all of the ones in existent except two are unregulated and don't work. The two that work and are regulated are in "Puget Sound" and "Minnesota". The one in Mennesota is the Mayo Clinic which has already been highly praised for delivering great care at a much lower cost and "Puget Sound" is mine that I was raving about.

It really can be done, but Rockefeller is right that it shouldn't be established as part of this Health Care Bill (The Baucus Plan) because without sound regulation and oversight, it can really mess with patients and the systems that do work require a lot more study to find the successful secrets.

I could see them as part of the delivery system for the Public Option but only with a whole lot of inspection to prevent fraud and abuse.

Patsi, Who U calling a hayoo?

I know that you were kidding with Jack: I know when you want to make a point...and how you start off doing it....remember that you are the reason that I came here....I studied you for a year before posting......so in all fairness to Chloe.....it is not her fault when I goof up....it is your fault, and as you say HA!.

I also agree with the Springer thing.......I thought that he was just one big joke for a long time.....then I heard him speak...forgot where now.....but he blew me away......he would have been in it for us I am sure!!

ps, Hope that L. M is doing fine....and this is the last time that I ask you this,,,just in case that you missed .....my post's to you about the magic jack,,,and the boost phone that I left for you...did you see them,,any more info that you want?

Carol, that was nice.....

"it is your fault, and as you say HA!. "

I'll take that blame proudly, Solar...Miss Maria had her first ballet recital and it was hilarious. True Lucille Ball stuff. Suffice it to say she didn't do well following along but took off on some leaps and twirls of her own. The audience was in hysterics laughing and applauding before it was over. (Of course they're 3 year olds so nobody was exaclty in step.)

It's The Insurance Companies, Stupid::

http://www.sfbg.com/entry.php?entry_id=8880&catid=4&volume_id=398&issue_id=441&volume_num=43&issue_num=43

Will wonders never cease--Sen. Alexander (R-TN) is breaking with the GOP faithful and supporting Judge Sotomayor's nomination as it heads to the full Senate.

I am quite sure this is not our Lamar. It's a pod. Approach with caution!!!

I've been engaging in net discussions for over 10 years. Net discussion groups are interesting things and I've learned that it is often neccessary to take a break. Where I used to hang out they called this an abend or abvnd the v meaning voluntary.
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ABEND

I have lost my ability to be diplomatic or bite my tongue.

So it is time for me to go abvnd. Anybody wanting to contact me can do so at whskyjack(at)yahoo.com

Carol , peace Y

Jack

"Only one way to find out!"

Ooh, I don't know Solar. You're a pretty scary guy.
I think I'll just keep my opinion to myself this time. I'm talked out anyway.
(Saw your 2:09 too, right back atcha..... I'll not attack you, no matter how stupid a thing you say. :J)

Pogo, You're asking Solar to mediate? I don't stand a chance.

"..apparently humidity is a good thing"

KGC, If humidity helps, that flu isn't going to do too well making it's way through Houston. (except this is always a high flu state, so don't know)

Patsi, I'd love to see a video of that ballet performance by little Maria. Do you have a video you can link? It's hard to believe she's already three.

Oh Jack.... we'll miss you so much. Please don't be gone for long (or better yet, change your mind and come back tomorrow). Say what you want, we like you as is.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/07/congress-needs-staycation-to-p.html#comment-248136

Hey Carol
Your absolutely wonderful!!..Maggie too!!...

"I have lost my ability to be diplomatic or bite my tongue."
Jack

That's WHY we love you. Please don't change.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/07/congress-needs-staycation-to-p.html#comment-248148

Hey Jack
Don't go for to long...I don't see why you don't stick around...You know I thought about it and there are so many times when I have appreciated you not being diplomatic and biting your tongue...We like you as you are.....T

Hey Jack, You old mule. . Don't worry about that shit. .Life's too short..Take a few days and come back and have at it.

Oh crap! I can even screw up a like letter.

Pogo, Chloe,

After a long an pain staking deliberation.....about today's lunch that is; the fair thing is to give this one to Pogo. Here is the reason...he waited patiently until after I pm and was going hungry until we made up our minds. This was Chloe's 2nd attempt at claiming the Lunch...and Pogos first only........gavel down.....both of you do the club house moose call.... and get ready to rumble tomorrow. How about lunch can be called....between 11: 40 on..or maybe even call it brunch...and get Teach. Boo to get in on it,,,and anyone else that wants to help do the carpentry work needed to expand...and we can even have elections and all that....hehehe of course I count the votes.....

Jack no sense of going anywhere ....we all loose that way.

Pssst. Pogo, get a big lunch out of this and get my a doggie bag haha

" F it, Dude......let's go bowling."

--Walter Sobchak

cc.......glad to see you already have a crabfest shirt.....it's a goodern...........

C'mon, Jack. Drama is par for the course here; you ain't the cause. Carol's cool, too. Chalk up any conflict to misinterpretation; everyone know you mean well; ___ whoever doesn't. All that said, getting off the trail for a while is never a bad thing. Lot of summer left to enjoy. Stay cool.

..."whomever". "____ WHOMEVER doesn't...", right? Sorry.

who acts......whom receives the action......

who doesnt see whom

The "Beer Summit" is totally gay. WTF has happened to this goddamn country? Can you say, "awkward"?

Yeah, Long deliberation. Right.
I knew you'd decide against the pinks. Take out pizza for you, only one topping.

the way Lt Badger explained it.......he drew a cartoon of Who, with a club, using on Whom with stars flying off his head......

.... you can eat it in the club house.

...right, right. I got that much, but "____ he who doesn't understand"...

I guess it would be, "____ him, he who doth not understand".

rats......using IT

open letter from Larry Flynt to the president. The Daily Beast.

President Obama:

You have proven to be a great campaigner. You have yet to demonstrate your ability to govern. Who needs the Republicans? They don’t know what compromise is. They’re just out to derail your presidency. Bitch slap ’em at every opportunity and put them in their place. They lost; you didn’t.

You need some gonads, Mr. President, and if you don’t have any, as Hillary would say, you’d better grow some.

As for disloyal Democrats, you need to yank the carpet out from under them. Remind them that their survival is dependent upon yours. Don’t pull punches, Mr. President. You need some gonads, and if you don’t have any, as Hillary would say, you’d better grow some.

You have failed to keep many campaign promises. You’ve ignored civil liberty violations such as warrantless wiretapping. You passed a stimulus package that is obviously full of pork for Democrats. You handed over billions more in taxpayer dollars to crooked bankers. You listened to the very people who created our economic meltdown, the Mutt and Jeff team of Larry Summers and Tim Geithner. You’ve let the insurance lobbyists hijack healthcare reform to the detriment of every man, woman, and child in America.

You must say what you mean and mean what you say. Closing Guantanamo means just that. You could do it right now, Mr. President. You don’t have to wait until January. You can place terrorist suspects in the federal correctional system without creating any risk to our citizens.

You’re a nice guy. Everybody likes nice guys. Sometimes they finish last. You don’t want that, and neither do those of us who voted you in.

The American people have placed their future in your hands. For heaven’s sake don’t let them down. Don’t let yourself down.

Larry Flynt
Publisher, HUSTLER Magazine

Last night at work a truck driver from one of the trucking companies that does business with us collapsed on the floor of the shipping area. He hit his head and was completely unconcious. The workers on the dock called our ERT (Emergency Response Team) and they started CPR immediately. Luckily, one of the people from 1st shift just happened to be working last night and he is a EMT. I walked into work and saw a supervisor running to the nurse's station to get the defibrillator. He had apparently had a heart attack. They started working on the truck driver and the fire department arrived soon after. They were able to get a faint pulse. They worked on him for 30 minutes before taking him to the hospital. Hopefully, he made it through. But, it sounds like everyone at work did an amazing job last night in this emergency situation.

i think you right......."______ whomever doesnt......"

Too bad grammitical humor died with Carlin, or we'd have an act!

"Whom's on first?"

..."grammatical".

*head explodes*

I quit.

"I have a mind to join a club and beat you over the head with it." - Groucho Marx

i think they marred shatner's palin poetry bit the second time by shining the light on the moojicians.......might have worked if they had played it straight faced..........but they were out of character back there and mugging for the camera........

it blew the feel of the beatnik coffee house...............

Corey,

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/07/congress-needs-staycation-to-p.html#comment-248175

Don't give Chloe any Ideas......not too happy with me right now.

"not too happy with me right now."

You can say that again!

Chloe,

Gotta read the rules.....after there is an official meeting to decide important matters of the club...and you are asked to do the Moose call ya has to do it, so they can go into the meeting ledger....I don't make up these rules as I go along you know!..... lets hear it.

"you are asked to do the Moose call "

... at least you picked something I am good at.

I'm having second thoughts about joining the 'boys' club. I should have read the rules 'before' I joined.

I'm leaving.
I'll deal with you tomorrow!

Chloe,

I thought that we were just kidding around.....Im the moose I guess for not knowing the difference. No 2nd thoughts you joined for life.

Chloe --I have a video of the ballet, but my daughter says I can't put it anywhere on the web because there are so many other little kids in it...

Whoa doggies @ the Larry Flynt letter....

Jack -- get back here right now or you just might find an old hag on an electric broom circling your house much like one of Anon's black helicopters.

More than 20 billion in bonuses to bank execs at height of crisis

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/31/business/31pay.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

NOw this is a ballet. First frogs then swans so keep going past the audience

http://www.sonnyradio.com/swanlake_0001.swf

Well, if you didn't cash in on the "clunkers" deal, it may
be to late, seems that so many vehicles were sold
under the program, that the Transportation Dept.
told the Auto Dealers Assoc. to stop taking
applications tonight.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/31/business/31clunkers.html?_r=1&hp

Craig, I don't find that shirt you have one that offensive but I would recommend you lose the t-shirt under it. I do find the clothespens a little tacky. I bet some of the guys here have a better idea on how to balance out your fan blades without having to watch yellow and red things spinning around all day.

Jamie, what are you doing to stay cool? I talked with my sister up your way today to ask if she had AC at her place. The last place she had didn't and when I visited one summer and it got up in the 80s it was pretty hot in the house. She said she still doesn't and it might be difficult to find any little AC units around there right now.

Bedtime music--Thomas Hampson singing Verdi--

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-9iW27fptg

Night, all.

late nighters... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bbka73gUqw
[ YouTube - Joan Baez Leads "We Shall Overcome" -- Vote Rev Billy ]

nite!

Okay, what's SNLs' take going to be on the beer summit ?

I was one of those trying to calm the waters during the big to-do the other night, and I'm glad to see people talking about it because it was like no other angry conversation I've seen here. Some of the hate and anger I read was close to Brian's and that's why I was so upset.

Carol, and Jack, You are simply wonderful people and it all ran away with you, and it was visible. Beating yourselves up is futile because it's happened to all of us, and I, for one, don't intend to go back and say any more mea culpas.

To tell you the honest truth, after a while I realized that I wasn't sure which side anyone was taking - I realized that I was finding sense in some of what everyone was saying. It seems to me the basis of the argument got pushed down to the bottom of the pile and the ability to read carefully was doomed.

Does that make sense? It seemed to me that you weren't even answering each other, but voices you have heard sometime in the past. Once that little fire was lit, the anger was at others, people not here.

I hope nobody stays away and that nobody censors himself or herself. You really are important people.

Darklord, If you are there, it seemed to me you were trying to choose between whoever and whomever. It looked as if you were saying, :...everyone knew what you meant; _____ (whoever,whomever) doesn't.
My opinion, for what it's worth, is that whoever is the correct choice. It is the subject of the predicate doesn't, which makes a subordinate clause serving as the direct object of the predicate ____, which has an understood subject 'you.'

That may sound ridiculous, but I'm pretty darn sure I'm right. Actually, I know I am.

And if no one reads this tonight, I'm re-posting it tomorrow.

For some reason this song kept popping into my head yesterday

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CavaVZI_xDc

and then I came across this old one:

Turn, turn, turn

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHvf20Y6eoM&feature=related

We got the results back from the flu test we did on one of the inmates that had the flu symptoms. It came back faster than the lab told me they thought it would. My intuition was correct, it was the swine flu.

The four that I think all had it got over it fast, much faster than the regular flu, even the guy with HIV, who was the one we tested. No more cases so far and that is a miracle since we have a lot of people stuffed in that place. Population right now is somewhere around 1250 inmates.

No one freaked out, except maybe a few in admin. The inmates were cool which surprised me. They sometimes love to over react.

Blue Dogs getting more money from "health" lobbyists now....gee, whatta surprise!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/30/AR2009073004267.html?hpid=topnews

Baucus doesn't know how he'll vote on Sotomayor:

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/baucus-says-he-has-no-idea-how-hell-vote-on-sotomayor-2009-07-30.html

Jack- thats bunk, don't leave.

good one, cc.............and congrats on the msnbc deal........

Jack just stepped out the back. He'll return. Or I'll smack him.

"I thought that we were just kidding around....."

Solar,
Of course we were just kidding around!
(you told me I don't need a smiley face to make sure you know I'm joking, so I didn't use one... all in fun Sol) :)

Thanks Patsi,
Your daughter makes sense... protecting those children.

Sorry for not saying good morning Carol and Patsi. I'm not caught up yet, and lots of things going on at my place. I usually don't pop in until things slow down.

I hate "word clouds" for some reason.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/07/congress-needs-staycation-to-p.html#comment-248199

Carol, Glad to hear that the swine flu wasn't as bad as the usual flu cases. Kgc posted an article yesterday that said it didn't do as well in humidity, so maybe that helped there in La. I was so surprised to hear it, because everything usually grows 'better' in humidity. Apparently not this particular virus.

.. you may have seen it already, but this is the article KGC linked.

This is a pretty good update article on the swine flu
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/gurley/detail?entry_id=44301&tsp=1

Carol, I forgot about that song! I love it. Thanks for linking it.

this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CavaVZI_xDc

btw, I sent you an email

wall art............murals on buildings

http://ueba.com.br/hosted_pages/Wallpainting-Art

mona lisa when you're not looking:

http://www.crainium.net/jdjArchives/2005/08/

a lot of people are afraid of heights.......not me, I'm afraid of widths.

--Wright

NEW THREAD
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/07/of-race-and-beer.html