Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

Woo Hoo.

Now here is another Republican who called for the murder of Federal Judges in Chicago arrested by the FBI.

"Hal Turner, an occasional talk show host on internet radio and blogger, was arrested today by the FBI in his New Jersey home on charges he threatened to murder three federal appeals court judges in Chicago following their recent ruling upholding handgun bans.

According to the U.S. attorney's office, postings on Turner's web site included photos of the judges and addresses for them, with statements such as: "Let me be the first to say this plainly; These judges deserve to be killed.""

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/24/hal-turner-internet-radio_n_220442.html

When will we see Hannity, O'Reily and Rush Limbaugh along with Beck and the others be arrested for inciting violence against those who do not support their views of America?

anon, sounds like treason to me.

Good question. They deserve to be arrested too!

tt

Posted by: anon-paranoid Author Profile Page | June 25, 2009 12:36 AM

When has Glenn Beck incited violence? Do you have any quotes to support that assertion?

It is a demon weed, isn't it?

Craig, tell us your 'strange' dreams - all of them.

Obama IS a cultural icon.

Excellent pic of your parents, Craig!

Nice that you mentioned C-Bob to the world. Now he's famous too.

tt

Interesting point from the previous thread Jack. How many great adventure stories start with the sudden appearance of a single uncle or aunt that whisks the young person away on a great adventure?

We're the risk takers, explorers, and adventurers and we bring a little of that into the lives of our nephews and nieces.

We're also the ones that can sit as an elder and take an objective view of family squabbles.

Excuse me, another adventure is calling. I hear there be pirates down in Florida Tony.

Craig, I'm so glad you put that video up! It's an utter impossibility for me to be awake and sensient at that hour of the morning. Great show!

Darklord, I can say this - Glenn Beck has incited violence in my tummy. He is not an attractive character, altho I did enjly seeing him interview Rev Al Sharpton once.

THE BLACK KEYS - SHE SAID, SHE SAID

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYzYO-SdGY4

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The first real proof that the Beatles were what we all thought they were -

Timeless.

What a Hoot -
I just saw the date. 42 years ago today, Dorthia Barrett. had decorated her house for Christmas.
Lanny Field and I sat down and listened to " Are You Experienced " on her giant stereo .

Years later , my manger on the west coast took me to the Gene Autry Museum of the West. When they found out I knew Lanny Field, the doors opened for me.
Lanny Field went on to gather every scrap of Texas music he could find.
That's why the Gene Autry Museum of the West welcomed me with open arms. I listened to Jimi Hedrix once with Lanny Field.

I have some damn fine pictures of me at the Gene Autry Museum of the West .

It was my apex.

It's very easy to lose the things you love.

" They are making him. and keeping him a cultural icon ."

Craig Crawford
6-24-09

Crooks and Liars on the fear mongering spouted by Glen Beck and Fema Concentration Camps.

" Beck: We don't even understand freedom anymore. We are a country that is headed toward socialism, totalitarianism, beyond your wildest imagination.

I have to tell you, I am doing a story tonight, that I wanted to debunk these FEMA camps. I'm tired of hearing about them -- you know about them? I'm tired of hearing about them. I wanted to debunk them.

We'll we've now for several days been doing research on them -- I can't debunk them! And we're going to carry the story tonight.

...It is our government -- if you trust our government, it's fine. If you have any kind of fear that we might be headed toward a totalitarian state, there is something going on in our country that it's -- it ain't good. "

http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/glenn-beck-who-me-spread-baseless-fe

Of course he did debunk it weeks later with a short line comment I believe, however he made sure that before he did that his viewers had already believed that by his saying he could not disprove it that it must be true.

Typical Reichwing Faux News put out to all those who are prone to doing violence against those who do not follow their view of America.

I reckon tobacco is still the topic, so I will share that two months ago I passed a milestone, 10,000 days without a cigarette.
Soon that will turn into a quarter million hours cig-free.
Of course , my 4 and a half years of enjoying the occasional cigar and pipe make this information sort of worthless, but what the hail!

While I guess it was will-power that got me off tobacco for good, will-power is worthless in trying to get off alcohol.
That took total submission to the ruler of my little universe, His Royal Highness John Barleycorn.
I cried "UNCLE!", staggered up off the barroom stool and into the sunlight of the day, and never looked back..

Craig stays about 3 steps ahead of all of us.

Tobacco & beer -
That's what killed Bob. The 20th century had a small part, but was the booze, babes, and beer that did him in.

caption time for this photo:

http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/sanford- pigs.jpg

my entry: “No, don’t be silly—YOU’RE not the pig that’s I’m greasing this weekend!”

http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/sanford- pigs.jpg

well, I blew the timing for my little joke, but here's the photo anyway

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_C7s5GzEKNYQ/R67jsAsLZWI/AAAAAAAAAQg/hDF_247htx0/s400/sanford+pigs.jpg

Dexter -
You got off a bar stool , and started staring into a 1 gallon tub of ice cream.

Once, a couple years after I quit alcohol, I ate a half gallon of Puritan Denali peppermint ice cream in 20 minutes.
That was an aberration, but I still love the stuff.
I had a small dish with the peanuts and syrup last night.
There's no way I can make my 22 pounds to lose by October 1 if I eat ice cream more than once a week. Those days are gone, too.
Another thing I love are salads, but that's another area where fatso tubbos have to be careful...salad dressings are killers, ya gotta use that low cal low fat nasty stuff.

Dexter -
Standford with the pigs ................ Priceless.

The current governor of South Carolina voted to impeach a sitting president when he was in the house .

More Republican "Honor & Principals" on display this week in spades.

I love it when "myth " has a head on wreck with " principals" .
The fake blood flows for days.

Small bet -
Ping will renounce Stanford here next week as not a " True Conservative".

There 2 truely rotten and bankrupt movements in this world today, one is the American Republican Party, and the other is those ole mullahs in Iran.

Posted by: anon-paranoid Author Profile Page | June 25, 2009 2:10 AM

The quotes you posted form Glenn Beck sound very similar to the type of posts you make, anon-p. You're somewhat of a fear-monger yourself, from my perspective, although sometimes I may even agree with your assertions. Glenn Beck, however, has not incited violence in neither the quotes you just posted, nor any I've seen, and I have been looking.

Your last lessons are "in the mail", Solar. You're on your own now. Good luck.

I 'd love to see who's pullin' the mullahs weenies.
We know who Ensign was boinking, ( she was pretty hot ) Stanford's babe better be good.
At least Standford didn't go to Atlanta to peek under stalls at the airport. I'll give him that.

We love Anon - P here , he's crazy a a bed bug , but he's our bed bug.

Larry Craig would have never made it out Charleston.

So Mitt's stock has soared this week, his mistress 's stock has soared as well.

That guy is the biggest horn dog ole Bob has ever seen.

Somebody ties him up in latex, twice a week.

Well the clips loaded , and I am spent.

Shiny side up, rubber side down.

On to the Door
The "can" is done , not finished, but done. I still have dozens of pop rivets to run.

http://cbsolaroven.blogspot.com/

Aha. And now we see...

"Jenny Sanford, a millionaire whose family fortune comes from the Skil Corp. power tool company, has been central to Sanford's political career. She ran his congressional campaigns and his first race for governor."

sanford has sinned.......i think it's deucedly funny, given his past moralistic pronouncements......don't cry for us in argentina......

Can we have the stimulus money now?

lol

I love you Craig! Thank you!

I do not, for one, think that the problem was that the band was down. I think that the problem may have been--that there was a stonehenge monument on the stage that was in danger of being crushed......by a dwarf......alright? That tended to understate the hugeness of the object.

---David St. Hubbins

there's a question: who sent the little gov's e-mails to the newspaper?

dex, you can have your ice cream and lose pounds too.
yesterday's suggestion about only eating your own needs some expansion in order for you to see how quality tends to limit quantity. secret is is to use only the finest ingredients: organic whipping cream, half-n-half, whole milk, sugar and the best most expensive vanilla you can find. if you throw in handcranking, it's even better. no way are you going to go thru all that trouble and expense and not self-regulate the intake.
bad side effect tho' is that one tends to become an icecream hoarder, not sharing with loved ones, a solitary imbiber lying about where you've stashed the goodies. another lost weekend scenerio.

amazing to me how the "republican strategists" profess to not see the difference between a sanford and a john edwards.......jesus that's funny......

McCord is reading sanford's e-mails.......very dramatically......lol

The Iconic (or as Craig says Cultural Icon) Barack Obama infomercial sponsored by ABC News was heart warming, might have you feel good about all the nice things with no details or plan. Hey Maybe Barack can now get Billy Mays to join the tour?

But at least give Barack credit for creating a dialogue as he does like control of the Words just Words

(which is: lots of hypocrisy for the edwards and the sanford but edwards didnt go around trying to manage folks' moralities and screaming "family values" at every opportunity afforded him.....)

"Family Values" .................a wife and 4 young boys.......and an argentinian hotbabe...............

stop me before i laugh again..............

ping......barack who? Have you heard about sanford yet? lol

Yup Sturg - You are right... Sanford and Edwards both Carolina boys !! Wonder if they both eat grits - I hope not..... Now is Sanford a Lawyer also?

Does sound like Sanford did tell his wife and was more upfront about his evil challange - does not make it better

"amazing to me how the "republican strategists" profess to not see the difference between a sanford..."

sturge, add in here the growing list of their other ilk who strutted and spouted holier-than-thou during the impeachment debacle. how do they equate full-scale in-your-face adultery with a blow job?

Hey maybe Sanford, Edwards, Kennedy, Clinton... Can all hire Billy Mays to help with their P.R. support !!

Thats right - They did it and they are not proud but gosh - that does not make them bad people - And they are all Really Sorry !! (imagine this with Billy Mays provided style !!) Maybe then they can get people to buy it..

well, in-your-face was a poor choice of words in that instance. sorry bout that.

ping.......i'd wager he got caught.......no way he actually came clean without being caught.........but on the bright side.....maybe now he'll find Jeebus.......oh, right......he was a staunch jeebuscat from way back........oh well.......

now i have to go look up "Billy Mays"................lol

pat......ha.......you did that on porpoise.............

billy mays........lol..............oh, THAT guy...........

BayRocks Healthcare venture last night
Sorry We do Not need to Overhaul the entire system - We need to keep pushing innovation and Personal accountablility

can we get to some Real Science and facts! The attack on Global warming which is based on disputed elements is driving many directions and very costly choices for our Country. The Healthcare costs are documented with much more direct facts - just a few of the elements that are costing us the Billions - Trillions over 10 years - and in fact one area he walks away and that is to protect his fellow lawyers - the likes of John Edwards.

So why not attack the out of control legal aspects which drive doctors to protect themselves by extra testing - Some estimates in high lawyer active areas is 1 out of 3 extra tests !!

So why not point the finger directly at Obesity and the fact that a FAT America is one of the top cost drivers - Not the "System" ! If I have a bad driving record I pay more for Car Insurance

Sorry Craig - But Smoking - Glad you are working on it...

And if we can get CHF under control (Congestive Heart Failure) this alone could save 500 Billion a year !!! And in many areas local Healthcare is establishing CHF clinics to save huge dollars and improve the quality of life. Right Pati

ping, it's the hypocrisy factor.

Here is the big line !!!

Why does Barack and others not push Personal Responsibility?

Votes!

My feelings re: Sanford. When you listen to his press conference, this is not a man that is contrite. He planned what he was going to say. Probably did it while in Argentina. He sounded as if he were actually bragging. Maybe even rubbing it into his wife's face.

I just bet that wifey was planning on booting him out of the house before he left and he knew this would all come out. He wanted to go down with a bonfire. He had to have known that his disappearance would not go unnoticed.

oops, my intuition was too late. Huff Post already confirms it. It was the only explanation that made any sense.

Behind many men in power is a woman who is smarter and/or has more money. Isn't it a shame that it is the man who gets the position of power. What is wrong with you sisters?

ct...

Sanford's wife kicked him out over two weeks ago according to a statement she made and Rachel Maddow mentioned it on her show last night.

C-Bob...

Thanks for the good word above.

I will give my supervisor your email and web addy when he gets in. Your site is blocked at work.

Dark Lord...

At least I put links to the posts I made on my site that backed up what I wrote. That is how I see it and if I'm wrong then I'm the crazy. If I'm right, were is serious trouble.

I listen to Reich Wing radio on the way home and often the talk and topics are how the new President is destroying America and the people who call in agree and often suggest they need to take America back to the values we had before he became President.

You know what values their talking about. Them good values like holding people indefinitely without the right to a lawyer or court hearing, torturing those in our custody and the other many values that they believe in.

They denigrate, demean and demonize Liberals, Democrats, President Obama and anyone who don't follow their Reich Wing Values, you know, like Joseph Goebbels did in Nazi Germany about Gays, Blacks, Gypsies and of course lets not forget those of Jewish Heritage.

And least we also forget here at home right now, pro choice people, Hispanics and drum roll please, Muslims.

These are the values that the Republican Party follows now and they are getting more violent as each day passes.

I really don't care what you think of me, that is how I see it. You can see it anyway that you want, that is your right.

Have a good day all.

And after they have created that little powerhouse, they get the shaft!.

Is it my imagination, or did MoJo just call KO and Rachel the Bill & Tammy Faye Baker of MSNBC?

I always find it "interesting" when men start talking about how sad it is for the family. It is sad, especially for the kids, but I always think that they are saying that because they've got something to hide, too.

...and Craig, thanks for the Imus in the morning! Good to hear about the 'rents.

You're not just kiddin' about the corn growin' slowly. Not enough sun where I planted, so it still looks like blades of grass. The last pictures I took were around KY Derby day and there is little difference between now and then. It is corn for patient people.

And men and women are intimidated by women who are smart. It is not a quality that is attractive in women. We are trained from early in life to hide our smarts, especially if you want a man.

And if you do have smarts girls, you best bury it under a lot of sexy lingerie.

joe and mika look more like and have more in common with Jim and Tammy Faye than do Rachel and Keef.......

Dark Lord...

And there is by the way camps set up under Bush, though I don't have the links at this time that were written about during the Katrina fiasco with barbed wire and armed guards.

Truly smart men are attracted to smart women. (Bill & Hillary, for example.)

Truly smart women are not intimidated by smart women, but rather, by women like Venus Flytraps like Scary Palin.

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I spent five days cryin' in Argentina, not walkin' the Ap'lach'in' Trail.... (There is a country song in there somewhere. ~Country/western, that is, not country as in Argentina.~)
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Ping...

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/06/beyond-the-arc-with-don-imus.html#comment-239261

And President Obama has talked about Personal Responsibility though the Republicans never ever take Personal Responsibility for anything they do.

You're right there Blue.

sanford would do well to pass on listening to country music for the next little while..............

Why would truly smart women be intimidated by Sarah Palin? Are some women "Venus Flytraps"?

(Sorry -- the flytrap thing has been used in such an ugly manner for so long, that it makes me cringe. Although you probably didn't mean it on quite so vulgar a level.)

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/06/beyond-the-arc-with-don-imus.html#comment-239246

patd

You had to go and remind me of my uncle's Fresh Peach ice cream. Real vanilla pods for the custard. Eggs from his free range chickens, Milk and Cream straight from the cow, peaches picked perfectly ripe off the trees .... Hand cranked and served under the trees at the peak of a Fresno summer .... Nothing has ever tasted that good since.

Cheers to Gail Collins---maybe tongue in cheek or schadenfreude---but so very insightful.

"The Love Party" NYT

"perhaps it is time to rethink the idea of constantly electing middle-aged heterosexual men to positions
of high importance"

and "before this search for a presidential nominee goes any further, I'm thinking it's time for the Republicans to apologize for putting us through the Clinton impeachment.

We seem to have pretty well established that sexual
stone-throwing is a dangerous sport."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/25/opinion/25collins.html?_r=1

well ya kicked me out and i flew to buenos areees
i told 'em i was hiking on the appalachian traaaaail......
but they found my suv at hotlanter's airrrrport.......
and now i'm gettin' ready for catchin' haaaaaail

(country music)

mornin'

Ping, Sanford is not a lawyer. He was an Eagle Scout and an MBA from UVA - and was Chairman of the Republican Governors' Association (that's some sort of leadership position isn't it? but I digress) And if he doesn't eat grits he's no southern boy. So a new Republican party is emerging - led by Vitter, Craig, Sanford and Ensign. My, my, but the conventions should be much more fun than they used to be.

When it came to home made ice cream, I loved all the flavored ones, but in the end, it was always the vanilla that was the best. I can remember taking turns with my dad and sister (sis was useless) hand cranking the ice cream churn. God almighty was that stuff delicious.

LordB,
I changed my mind. Maybe you were right about Sanford sabotaging his career.... Maybe he didn't want to run for president (and who could blame him).

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/06/craigs-smokeout-tips.html#comment-239178 "...still dancing."

I think we'd better start working on a new dance. This one isn't working. I thought I was onto something when we got that fifteen minutes of water, but....
(we do seem to have the same exact weather here and there).

" I'm thinking it's time for the Republicans to apologize for putting us through the Clinton impeachment. "

Isn't that the truth, Coreen! And Sanford was right out there flapping about it.

"If the Republicans would stay out of the public's bedrooms, we probably wouldn't be so pissed at what goes on in theirs."

Worth repeating!

tt, thanks for repeating that - it's something the party of philandery should think about before they try to act as if they are the true keepers of the "Thou shalt not commit adultery" commandment and demonize everyone else who breaks it.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/06/beyond-the-arc-with-don-imus.html#comment-239286 "perhaps it is time to rethink the idea of constantly electing middle-aged heterosexual men to positions
of high importance"

Coreen,
Bethy was thinking the same thing last night. From her post "The thought strikes me that, with women not having affairs, and thumbing their noses at the Supreme Leader, and Mousavi's wife challenging to the government, making demands, while the boys are screwing whatever or whoever and lying stupidly, the men are being outclassed.

No snark intended - I'm serious. Women are in the forefront right now."

We had a benefit cookout last night for a guy at work. I don't know the guy, because he works on 2nd shift on the other side of the building. Anyway, this guy at work was recently in a serious motorcycle accident, his wife was riding with him on his motorcycle at the time. This guy and his wife were seriously injured in the accident. Luckily, a nurse and a spinal injury specialist happened to be at the scene of the accident. The nurse saved this guy from bleeding to death and the spinal injury specialist saved his wife from being paralyzed. So, they were both lucky for that. However, the guy had to have his left leg amputated below the knee. So, we had a benefit cookout to raise money for them. There is also a discussion at work to forego our summer picnic and give the money that was budgeted for the picnic to families in need.

Here we go again....

Contaminated Beef recall......

http://www.ksby.com/Global/story.asp?S=10592671

"Almost 42,000lbs. of beef are being recalled because they could be contaminated with E-coli."

So how safe is the food we eat?

AP, not as safe as we think it is.

Patsi,

For me the debacle of the impeachment of Bill Clinton
will linger on and the fact that the very same republicans that created it---still just do not
seem to get it---they piously preach "family values"
to everyone else---then when they are exposed for
the frauds they are---they act like just saying "sorry"
is acceptable.

But the bright side of their failure to learn is that it may
keep them out of power for a long, long time.

Chloe,

As far as I am concerned---having more women
take control would be a big plus---since having
entered a predominantly male profession more than
25 years ago---when in CT there were not many women attorneys & very few women judges (the majority of them being placed in the juvenile court
system) but that is a topic that is best left for another
day---each time I see a woman advance through the
minefield that has faced them over the years---I am
proud of their acheivements.

"---each time I see a woman advance through the
minefield that has faced them over the years---I am
proud of their acheivements."

.... beautifully said Coreen.

"Did I say 'Appalachian Trail?' I meant 'Argentinian Tail!' "

I think Mrs Sanford is/was the real driver in Gov Sanford's political life. She, too, is an MBA and a serious number cruncher. My surmise is that perhaps their life became more of a political relationship than a romantic one. Just a surmise.

My take of Sanford is that he is a genuine maverick, doing what he believes rather than what might be politically expedient. The stimulus thing is a case in point.

One thing about him has especially impressed me; it's his afternoons where any state resident can come to the State House and talk with him about any type of concern that they feel the governor can make better.

I chauffeured a vet with Alzheimer's and his wife to meet with him about trouble getting disability and VA benefits. It was after 5-pm when they talked. No matter, the governor got on the phone to his director of veterans' affairs, had him come in to the State House, where he was told to personally shepherd the fellow's case. Which he did.

Does that make him an effective governor? Does it make up for his philandering? No, in both cases.

But, in my eyes, it makes him a caring person who just happens to be in over his head.

"AP, not as safe as we think it is."

Pogo, I have to say that it depends on what you eat. That meat was contaminated with E-coli, but it was also recalled. Meat is always a risk, whether we buy it that way, store improperly, or if we aren't careful when we cook it. But, being careful, I haven't had food poisoning in many a year. I actually don't think our country does all that badly in monitoring the food and water.

Morning Fix on the Players and fall out of the Sanford saga

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/eye-on-2012/morning-fix-scoring-the-sanfor.html

This is one of the funniest quotes I've seen yet associated with the Sanford kerfuffle.

“Personal circumstances over the course of the last week have managed to shrink the front line of the 2012 possible contender list by 30 percent,” said Phil Musser, a former executive director of the Republican Governors Association."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/25/us/25sanford.html?hp

I particularly kied this little tidbit from the article.

"Mr. Sanford and his wife had joined an intensive Bible study group for couples in the last few months, according to William H. Jones, president of Columbia International University, a conservative evangelical college. Dr. Jones said the governor and his wife had been encouraged to join the Bible study by a longtime friend, Cubby Culbertson, a businessman in Columbia who teaches the Bible and who was thanked by the governor in his news conference."

I guess that little Bible study group wasn't as effective as it might have been.

And now "crying" is apparently the new Repug euphemism for what the coarser of us might call fucking.

“And so oddly enough, I spent the last five days of my life crying in Argentina.”

Is that a suicide anouncement? Hmmm.

Flatus, Thanks for that posting. We may not like the Governor's politics and now snicker at his foibles, but it's a reminder that everyone has more than one dimension.

"..

And back to my pet peeve--the state of the economy
and its effects on lots of Americans---this article
is so typical of what is really happening out there in
the real world.

"$60,000 in debt, and nothing to show for it"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31325093/ns/business-personal_finance/ns/business-reinventing_america

...sorry.

"it makes him a caring person who just happens to be in over his head."

Flatus
I agree. Each one of these philandering cases is individual, and really have no relation to their political affiliation. I do, however, understand why people particularly are put off by the hypocrisy of it, these guys 'preaching' one thing and doing another.

Me, personally, I could care less about their personal life, if they're doing their job well. The personal stuff is between them and their significant other.

kied = liked

chloe, I am not particularly careful, but neither have I. But then I've never had food poisoning in Mexico, either, and I eat at some pretty questionnable little dives there. Salsa, peanuts and beef - three things I have a particular affection for, have all been on the e-coli hit parade. WWater is safer than food - the monitoring that's done is embarassingly little. Lawsuit avoidance may be a bigger incentive than fear of regulatory reprisal.

"--the state of the economy
and its effects on lots of Americans---"

Exactly Coreen, The economy, the one thing that affects us all.

"- the monitoring that's done is embarassingly little."

But the penalties high, and it's always in everyone's best interest to do things according to the rules (hopefully that keeps them on track). They can't check everything, but the possibility of a surprise visit still helps. They never know ahead of time when the health department will show up, and that's a good thing.

chloe, Sanford is not a moral crazy man, but he did vote to impeach Clinton and did so because, as he said, Clinton violated the oath he took with Hillary, so it had to be taken very seriously (I paraphrase because I'm too lazy to go look it up). I say sauce for the goose, you live by your own words, .... and on and on. Fact is, if he stays in office, he should be subject to the same BS impeachment process that he supported against Clinton when he was in Congress. It ain't gonna happen - Repugs control both houses of SC government, and I don't know, he may be a pretty good governor - but I'm just sayin' that you have to be willing to live by the rules you impose on others.

"...he did vote to impeach Clinton.....I say sauce for the goose, you live by your own words"

I know Pogo. Politicians, of all people, should be aware that these things will always come back to bite them in the rear. I don't feel sorry for him at all.... He made a mistake and now he'll have to live with the consequences. That's a fact of life.

“Personal circumstances over the course of the last week have managed to shrink the front line of the 2012 possible contender list by 30 percent,”

.... but, we all know how quickly someone can come out of no where, and make a surprise hit.

"....everyone has more than one dimension."

It's those dimensions that make it so interesting, isn't it Joe.

chloe, I'm sure that food producers have that threat in mind, but take a look at this article from 2007.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/02/26/national/w135627S63.DTL&type=politics

This was the standard back then: "Firms that produce high-risk foods more susceptible to contamination, such as fresh fruit and vegetables, are supposed to be inspected every year, unless they have a good safety record. Then inspections are done every two or three years, Herndon said."

But here's the rub:

"A recent Government Accountability Office report noted that most of the $1.7 billion the federal government allocates to food safety goes to the Agriculture Department, which is responsible for regulating about 20 percent of the food supply. The FDA, responsible for most of the other 80 percent, gets about 24 percent of the total."

Think about that - in a federal budget that appraoches a trillion dollars, only one point seven billion are allocated to food safety. States also have health departments that inspect food producers I expect, but I'd be willing to bet that they concentrate on restaurants and other such places where fines are more likely than in food production facilities.

As far as Sanford---here is a sampling of the right's
sympathy for the "man, his family, etc"---but did these very same republicans express even the slightest bit of
concern for any of the democrats---don't think so!

That is why Gail Collins comments posted above that "sexual stone-throwing is a dangerous sport" is so spot on.

From National Review-Jim Geraghty:

"But underneath the wreckage of the most spectacular implosion of a gubernatorial rising star since — well, Eliot Spitzer — is a man, and a family, and a group of staffers and former staffers shocked and a little wounded by the crash’s metaphorical shrapnel. Inside South Carolina and out, the press conference thoroughly stunned those who once thought Mark Sanford was a great governor, a great boss, and in fact, a great husband and father too"

" Politicians, of all people, should be aware that these things will always come back to bite them in the rear."

Too true. Yet they never seem to figure it out.

Pogo,

I suppose it's fun for some to compare with Clinton's impeachment. All we're missing is the "lying under oath" in a legal proceeding. Laughs....
Inconvenient when those those little details keep gettin in the way........

"in a federal budget that appraoches a trillion dollars, only one point seven billion are allocated to food safety. States also have health departments that inspect food producers I expect, but I'd be willing to bet that they concentrate on restaurants and other such places where fines are more likely than in food production facilities."

Ok Pogo, Now I see where you're going with this. And, of course, you're right.

... and Pogo. I know in Texas, they do seem to concentrate on the restaurants. I see them all the time. I didn't realize that may be because of fines. It's always about the money, isn't it.

Karma sometimes sucks.

Jax, I was talking about what Sanford said, not about Clinton. This is what he said during the Clinton impeachment: "“He lied under a different oath, and that’s the oath to his wife,” Mr. Sanford said at the time on CNN. “So it’s got to be taken very, very seriously.” See, they keep records of that stuff. It's pretty clear from that quote that what he thought was more important was the marital oath, not the oath "to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me god." His own mouth betrayed the reason he thought the Clinton lie meant much. Again, he should expect to get the same treatment fr the same reason that he gave Clinton. (And it was always about the sex).

"Karma sometimes sucks."

Ha Sea!
But it's also so fair. Sometimes it's great. One things for sure, there's no way to get around it.

Pogo,

Clinton perjured himself. That's why he was impeached. From your statements I realize that you think it was BS...... but it's fact.

I'm sure that if Sanford perjured himself
he'll receive the same treatment........and if he follows the Clinton model he'll find redemption through bible study and keep his job.....laughs

Hey, folks, let's be fair. Governor Sanford has been forced to resign as the Chairman of the Republican Governor's Association. Don't you think that's punishment enough? (Or maybe forcing him to continue would be the greater punishment.)

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/06/beyond-the-arc-with-don-imus.html#comment-239296

My brother in law got food poisoning from those peanut crackers you used to be able to buy at Sams. He was healed by the time he had a heart attack and died a few weeks later.

Ping

I wasn't going to say anything about all of this Sanford stuff-but it' still being talked about here-and on all of the news channels: Other than the hypocrisy factor- I don't see a big difference in the two party's. Except they (the R's ) looks like they are not sorry at all about it

The same thing keeps going around-and around in my mind about the comparisons. Once again we are down to accepting the D's over the R's.

Once again-we can see the lesser of two evils. Other than the R's have many-many more offending elected senators-or congress critters. State and city official also-I guess. What's the diff other than that.?

Ron Paul-- is starting to be talked about a lot more by the people here that I know. The new third party in the middle?

Jax,
You're still not understanding what Pogo was saying.

So, Jax, leaving his job without telling anyone where he was or was going and leaving NO ONE in charge during his absence in not a big deal with you? Would you feel the same way if one of your managers did that same thing to you and your company?

Solar,
I know Ron Paul. I like him. But you'd better do more research if you think he's somewhere in the middle.

Today is the 132rd Anniversary of the Battle of Greasy Grass Creek.

Yo,

My people take vacations all the time and I insist that they don't take a phone or laptop so they truly get away.
I don't want to know where they go.

As far as most politicians go......I'm only happy with them when they aren't on the job....laughs

I don't think Sanford is a 'thumper' in the way many Southerners are characterized. He's an Episcopalian who, now, seems to be following that religion's path of confession, contrition, and forgiveness.

I suspect he is much chastened and would not now be using the same words that he did against Mr Clinton, unless he was using them against himself.

I did not vote for him in any of his campaigns. But, I don't think he's a rotten human being despite the incredibly selfish and stupid acts that he committed over the past year.

Yes, jax, ignore Sanford's own words. Clinton lied under oath in a civil case deposition about a matter not material to that case - that is not perjury, and he was never charged with either perjury or obstruction of justice outside of the impeachment process. He was impeached because he made a stupid mistake that the Gingrich wing of the Repug party took political advantage of, period. Yes it was BS, and he was acquitted of the charges against him in his trial in the Senate. Sorry, jax, but not guilty is not guilty.

Pogo,
And yet he was still impeached and disbarred......hmmm.....all a big mistake I suppose

You're incredible......laughs

And if he doesn't eat grits he's no southern boy.~~newpogo

Uh--pogo, now granted I've got XX chromosomes, but my family's been southern since before the Revolution--and I've never eaten grits in my life. Does that mean I'm not southern? Just sayin'--

"....I don't think he's a rotten human being"

I don't either Flatus.

Pogo,

Just so you know. I think that liars and cheaters regardless of party should be shown the door. I don't care what the lying and cheating is about. You either lie or you don't cheat or you don't......

You either can't be trusted or you can. Not a gray issue for me.......

KT, Pogo was just kidding.

Fianlly, a sane ruling out of the Supreme Court.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/25/savana-redding-strip-sear_n_220717.html

CB

I saw and booked that U-tube about the solar oven. I have a cpl more ideas for U.

First - If it is possible to tilt the over forward ( accidents do happen ).
On the front of the oven- one at each corner-there could be a sliding leg. These come down to act as a break for the oven.

Sorta like a scaffold's wheel has with the break for it. Second - Don't give up on the idea about an ice cooler for the meat-and the pop (biggest profit) On the rear of the bike-behind the seat-there could be a rack made to support it.

Or on the frame of the bike between the rider-and the oven. Ok now you can tell me to mind my own biz. These things could be added on the the basic model.

pogo...

Even though Jax does not understand the point you were trying to make, I do and so do many others I would think.

Pogo's point:
I was talking about what Sanford said, not about Clinton. This is what he said during the Clinton impeachment: "“He lied under a different oath, and that’s the oath to his wife,” Mr. Sanford said at the time on CNN. “So it’s got to be taken very, very seriously.” See, they keep records of that stuff. It's pretty clear from that quote that what he thought was more important was the marital oath, not the oath "to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me god." His own mouth betrayed the reason he thought the Clinton lie meant much.

Sanford considered the lie to Mrs. Clinton more important than what he was being impeached for, which was lying about a bj he received.

jax,

taking a vacation and I am assuming your people SCHEDULE them in advance with your or their managers approval, is very different than just disappearing for a long weekend. I agree that employees should use their vacation and no be hassled by the company or the boss while they are away. This doesn't read like a scheduled vacation.

Jax, impeachment is a charge, not a finding of guilt. He agreed to disbarment as a penalty for being held in contempt of court. Facts matter jax. You paint with too broad a brush, but apparently you condemn Sanford for his offense - you should. See, I don' t think he should have to quit OR be impeached, except by application of his own words to himself. I don't think sexual purity is a requirement for high office. It's the Repugs who raised that bar, and now they need to take the same medicine they have forced on others, not because it's a correct bar to raise, but because they have chosen it. I think the fact that that f*cking hypocrite Gingrich is again becoming powerful in Repug circles is the height of irony.

kt, yes, I was kidding about grits (although I do love them so). I do actually know southerners who despise grits and yankees who love them.

onto the basic model that is.

I agree about Ron Paul. He's not in the middle. He's a right winger who is against the war, that's all. He wants to see Roe reversed, the Dept. of Education and lots of other overseers dumped...I was stunned when I really started paying attention to his beliefs.

Yo,

Someone knew. Someone close to Sanford knew about the affair and this trip. These revelations didn't happen by accident.

Personally, I think he should resign. He obviously can't be trusted. But I think that about everyone who cheats.
In my mind they are liars and can't be trusted. Don't get me wrong, they can be forgiven.......just not trusted.....

Pogo,
Re your posting on a 'sane' SCOTUS ruling. Yes, 8-1. Apparently, though, Justice Thomas finds otherwise.

Patsi,
That's the problem with Paul. I'm very libertarian about gov't interference but he is way too far out there for me to support. I will tell you that he is sincere and consistent......a rarity in Washington.

Joe, that's the second 8-1 ruling with Thomas the lone dissent in the past week.

Here's some really tepid economic news.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/25/unemployment-new-jobless-_n_220640.html

Recovery is still a goal only.

Pogo,
So you disagree with the Repubs on this issue but you want them to perpetuate it in this case? Am I misunderstanding again????

Craig,

Your interview on Imus could have been better, if the techs could figure out a way to fix that annoying delay. Your either answering a question that haven't yet been asked, or Imus is onto the next question while you are finishing up your previous reply. A very disjointed session.

jamie, sounds like a little bit of good news for you vista victims.

http://www.mitchellrepublic.com/event/article/id/34357/

I have lifelong friends that have cheated on their spouses. Both men and women. Many of them have been forgiven and stayed together.

But I have to say that I have always looked at them in a different light and would never trust them with anything meaningful to me.

OK, I stand corrected about the "lied under a different oath" quote. In the poorly written article, that was not clear. It was not about Clinton - it was about Bob Livingston, but is was from Sanford.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/25/video-sanford-whacked-pol_n_220721.html

And now Bob Inglis has seen the light.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2009/06/24/inglis-to-gop-lose-stinking-rot-of-self-righteousness/

LOL.

Pogo,
In macro-economic terms, that's not all bad news. With all the government stimulus spending we will undoubtedly be seeing a surge in inflation eventually. A slow recovery in employment will at least postpone, and perhaps ease wage pressure. This, in turn, will give the Fed some reason to keep interest rates low, supporting recovery. If employment were to come roaring back, the Fed would be forced to raise rates.

All this, of course, is theory. What will happen in the real world is anyone's guess.

Sanford is done, someone put a fork in him.

Sanford's real problems will come calling if the audits show any fraudulent travel and other expenses for personal reason by using tax payer money. He is in a very similar position as John Edwards. Power elevates one's position of self importance, and they start believing that laws, rules, regulations, and oaths don't apply to them. They would be wrong.

"I don' t think he should have to quit OR be impeached"

pogo, there may be a case against him because he alledgedly used state property to his benefit and not in the course of official business. not familiar with sc ethics laws or their standards for impeachment, but misfeasance and nonfeasance along with the catchall unfitting behavior of a public official come to mind for others.

"sc ethics"?

(just kidding flautus)

patd,

I agree he shouldn't be forced unless there is some illegal activity but when elections come around he should be characterized as a liar, a cheater, and in this case a helluva hippocrit........Now in some states that's a prerequisite to get elected but hopefully SC can do better......:)

Will Congress be given enough time to thoroughly read this bill, or will the services of another speed reader be called upon?

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/06/24/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5110850.shtml

jax, you are misunderstanding, or I'm not being clear. I'm disagreeing with the premise the republicans have tried to base calls for impeachment of Dems on, and am simply saying that they have no right to complain if tit is received for tat, and if they have applied it - they have, they can't complain if it's applied against them. I may be relishing the corner the repugs have painted themselves into. but no, I do not think it should be applied.

"Power elevates one's position of self importance, and they start believing that laws, rules, regulations, and oaths don't apply to them."

... and there lies the problem.

Pogo says:

. I'm disagreeing with the premise the republicans have tried to base calls for impeachment of Dems on, and am simply saying that they have no right to complain if tit is received for tat, and if they have applied it -

And I'm reminded of a Mae West quote (attributed)

"Honey, if your going to go tit for tat with me you'd better have plenty of tat."

pat, I don't think he should be impeached or leave office because he had an affair. Misuse of state property and such are separate, but related issues that may come to bear. I don't know or really care. (I would like to see a pic of Maria - prurient interest you know.)

OK, you healthcare watchers - here's a pretty big blockbuster.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jamie-court/cigna-exec-whistleblower_b_220445.html

As if we didn't know.

Solar ... (shhh, lunch)

pogo and any others familiar with medical malpractice insurance, a question of feasibility:

in order to lower physician overhead costs dramatically and as an enticement to join public plan, congress prohibits malpractice suits with limited exceptions for egregious cases. this assumes that congress also sets up better professional oversight and enforcement to weed out bad healthcare providers, not allowing participation in the new system.
those prospective patients who don't want to waive opportunity to sue can choose private sector health care rather than the public system.

is any of that viable?

Regardless if it is Ronn Paul. or anyone from anyone from the two party's . They will have to run from the middle. The problem is governing from the middle.

Thats' why I don't like one party having all of the power. I like the way that they are forced to two work with each other-when there is a divided government.

I wouldn't mind it if Dennis K. was in there also. But he is no even talked about. My point is t hat R. P. Has the best shot at it.
About-reversing Roe. I don't think that he could do it. I don't think that anyone can right now.

Religion is being delutid right now. Yes it is very strong with the evangalist-and a cpl. more. But there are so many religions right now-that there isn't the ferver that it had in the past to me.

Not the hate that some of the old had/has . The young are not as fanatical as a whole?

Hey - Compadre. Do you know what time it is-eet is no time for siesta-eeeet is time for - LUNCH!

Dang- eeeet - foiled again.

.... one for the road.... later.

South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford sent risque e-mails to Argentian lover
"Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani, a friend of Sanford's whose own affair with now-wife Judith Giuliani hobbled his presidential chances, advised the South Carolina governor to just "tell the truth." http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/06/24/2009-06-24_south_carolina_gov_mark_sanford_sent_risque_emails_to_argentian_lover.html?page=1

med mal question follow-up

it's my understanding that a very, very small percentage of bad docs out there make up most of the cases. yet your average doc has to pay thru the nose for insurance. said insurance companies, greedy as ever, are in profit heaven.

It is distressing to see grown men cry after they get caught doing things which are illegal, morally wrong.
Man-up, you didn't shed any tears before you got caught, so spare me the water works after you got caught. All these skunks have to say, "I'm sorry and I apologize for my short comings to XXX." Short, sweet and to the point. I don't need to know you cried for X amount of days, or that you prayed on it, or you were just getting ready to end the relationship. You got caught, and then you publicly admitted your
wrong doings. One thing I will say in behalf of Sanford's, at least the cheated on wife wasn't standing by his side during the press confress. That is nothing more than adding insult to insult. How degrading.

If it wasn't for the tax payer money angle, this is just another case of infidelity. Really makes me wonder just how many politicians, city, county, state, federal, are doing the very same thing, but just haven't been caught?

Ree, Is this the one you want?
http://cbhopibluecornexperiment.blogspot.com/

patd:

I don't think we should limit malpractice suits to "egregious" cases. That is too high a standard since I think people would still want to be able to bring suit where you have suffered a serious injury due to bad or negligent care.

What I would propose is something similar to the framework the established for securities fraud lawsuits:

-limit discovery (which is very costly) - until a lawsuit has survived a motion to dismiss (which is filed at the start of the litigation and is designed to weed out frivolous lawsuits).

-set limits on the amount of recovery

-make clear that running a bunch of unnecessary tests will not be a valid defense if a doctor screws up.

-perhaps set up some specialized courts with judges that have expertise - who can weed out the frivolous lawsuits from the legitimate ones.

(You could create a higher pleading standard - but you need to be careful. Because this could really hurt poor people's ability to bring suit. Maybe you could counteract that by making sure there are legal aid attorneys willing to take on legitimate cases of people who can't afford a lawyer.)

I always have sympathy for people that suffer from frivolous lawsuits.

They are a huge waste of time and money - even if they are dismissed early.

But on the other hand, most of the doctors I have heard complaining about huge medical malpractice insurance are usually pretty well-off and seem to still be making good money.

So while I am all in favor of tort reform - we shouldn't swing too far in the opposite direction.

That seems to be a huge problem in our politics - we just keep swinging too far in either direction - and continuously fail to strike the right balance somewhere in the middle...

warren, thanks for responding. the proposed limitation of suits plus stricter professional regulation would be agreed to by both user and provider in the public single payer system. nothing would change for the private system. and you're right that there has to be a legal aid type set up for the poor for either system. as for a specialized court, i think some states have or are moving in this direction.

"That seems to be a huge problem in our politics - we just keep swinging too far in either direction - and continuously fail to strike the right balance somewhere in the middle..."

Amen to that!

" I will tell you that he is sincere and consistent......a rarity in Washington."

I agree, Jax...no matter how I dislike most of Ron Paul's beliefs, I do think he's honest and a straight shooter. He is certainly not changing anything for a focus group's support. That was my bitch with Sarah Palin. Despite my defending her to the death against sexist attacks, I hate how she reacted to potential power. Her politics swung far to the right of what she ever really did in Alaska, once the GOP needed her to rally the base. I think much of what she said was simply what she was fed. Or what she said when cornered. Now, of course, I believe she's convinced herself that she is as big a right wing nut as the rest of them. And she's no doubt correct.

You would think Clarence Thomas would think twice before declaring he was in favor of strip searching 13 year old girls.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-court-strip-search26-2009jun26,0,5149828.story

"You would think Clarence Thomas would think twice before declaring he was in favor of strip searching 13 year old girls."

Exactly!

Well its all nice and good to talk about the sanity of the middle, but I have been slammed quite a bit here for defending the center.

I would love to see an apology from Edwards to Hillary for screwing her chance to be President. He tops Sanford by a mile. Didn't Paterson mix prositutues and cocaine? In any case, Newt has already been tarred for his behavior and I would vilify all his ideas because of his personal behavior years ago.

NIce attempted plug for Colorado Bob Craig, but the only line you got out was that blue corn takes damn long to grow. Please don't ever mention Maxtrue as I will be fored to change my username. I hate attention beyond a small circle of bloggers. Now if you need contracting work, Solar and I are ready.....but I live closer.

Mousavi won't back down while Ahmadinejad beats Obama up. Next will be the release of his letter.

Jamie, Debka posts small news items while saving the better version for subscribers. Despite the "poorly" written news blurbs, they have been right and first on a number of Middle East issues. Frist about the strike in Sudan, first about Egyptian anger at Hamas and Iran, first at the politics in Iran, etc. I think some of their staff is connected to Israeli intelligence. Stil, the smaller new flashes seem like the writer doesn't know english very well.

Recommended reading for those wishing to see what Iranians think---- http://raymankojast.blogspot.com/

I also posted a link this site which despite the partisan flaws has some good coverage. In an unbelievable and still media unvetted video Ahmadinjad discusses the rigged election, thanks the clerics who pulled it off and talks about ending voting in Iran as he plans to steer from the Islamic Republic to the Islmaic State of Iran. Why the WH has not addressed this video is anyone's guess.

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/06/ahmadinejad-and-yazdi-preparing-a-coup-nuclear.html

A short clip from AQ in Afghanistan in which he says Pakistani nukes once captured will be used on the US , but the US can save itself by coverting to Islam.

http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/2156.htm

I WOULDN"T vilify all his ideas.....I meant to say

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/06/beyond-the-arc-with-don-imus.html#comment-239361

patd

Nothing for the current victims. You have to be stupid enough to run out and buy Vista new in order to get the free upgrade in October. Anyone that dumb deserves the suffering inflicted from June to October.

Microsoft has lost me forever as well as earning a lifetime of badmouthing and I'm a 25 year customer. I'm already looking at the Apple laptop.

I'm personally waiting for Governor Sanford to explain why it took him five days to break up with his girlfriend (LoL), but in the meantime, I am not among those who believe he necessarily ought to resign. If our standard is that all politicians who philander should resign, then you might be very surprised by who would have to resign, on both sides of the aisle. I personally know of one that would probably surprise the socks off most people on this blog. (By the way, I'm a liberal, and so is he.) This is largely a political question. If Sanford did anything that violated the law or his oath of office, then the South Carolina legislature can take care of that, if they so choose. If he did anything that the majority of voters can't abide, they can take care of that. That's why they have rules and ballot boxes. If the people of South Carolina don't care about what Sanford does or did, then that's their choice. Virtue is its own reward, and you get what you pay for.

On a related, but slightly oblique, topic, can anyone answer the question of how the press got hold of Sanford's private e-mails? I know of at least one federal law and a myriad of state laws that prohibits people from accessing the personal e-mail accounts of others without permission. Where did those e-mails come from?

Craig.... that interview really is hard to follow.... and I am very happy for you if you have managed to finally quit smoking.... good job!

After reading how others on this blog aren't having any more luck than I am with the growth of their blue corn.... I have come to the conclusion that there's a very good reason why it isn't grown much any longer. The weather here in the northeast has been cold and rainy. I expected to hear about corn in places like Texas to be much further along than mine. But isn't that part of what this experiment is about.... to learn something.... and I have.

Jamie....
After owning this Mac for almost a year.... I won't ever go back to a pc. Yup...
it's more expensive.... but you know that old saying.... you get what you pay for....

AnnaMolly....
welcome to the blog!

And I find Clarence Thomas thinking it's ok to strip search a 13 yr old as disgusting as I thought it was for Palin to allow the GOP to use Letterman's stupid joke to talk about statutory rape on her 14 yr old.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/06/beyond-the-arc-with-don-imus.html#comment-239295

Corey,

And if we had universal coverage as with every other developed nation, you wouldn't need the fund raiser other than to help with bills while they were out of work and in rehabilitation.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/06/beyond-the-arc-with-don-imus.html#comment-239384

Ree,

Have to smile that I KNEW it would be "Mama Told Me Not To Com" before I clicked on the link.

I keep wondering why the stories of Rich, middle aged, powerful men with a sense of entitlement getting a little on the side is even considered NEWS.

CNN should probably limit the report to: Another one got caught screwing around. We'll let you know if so and so used public money or illegal influence to do it.

I don't care if someone has a mistress. I just don't want them using public money or failing to fulfill the duties of their office. The fact that Sanford who has a 24/7 job apparently took off without leaving anyone in charge is the reason for his resignation not the pampas pecadillo.

Hi, AnnaMolly. I agree Sanford shouldn't resign. Stupendously bad judgment isn't a criminal offense. Now if there's proof he used state money to fund travel & other expenses related to les rendezvous, that would surely be an impeachable offense, but there seems to be no proof of any financial hanky-panky so far.

As for the private emails, I still think it was his wife. Hell hath no fury. . .

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/06/beyond-the-arc-with-don-imus.html#comment-239409

Welcome AnnaMolly, Another voice is always a pleasure. As to surprising this group with anything ... not likely. We are all pretty humorously jaded by experience.

Jamie, I agree but Spitzer got off from an investigation if he used public money. Doing it in the oval office was on the taxpayer's dime.

Farrah died and NK says they shower the US with nuclear retaliation if we stop their ships.

Maybe Obama is reconsidering his profession. It isn't a great job, but one thing is sure: I don't expect Obama will be cheating on his wife. She would crush him like an empty beer can.

hi AnnaMolly,

I don't care what he did with whom. My issue with the SC Gov is from this chair it looks like he just UP and Left the state of SC in the lurch while he left the state and country to shed some tears in Argentina. If that is what really happened then I would demand his resignation.

"Where did those e-mails come from? "

Hi AnnaMolly,
Anything I've seen regarding those emails said the source is The State newspaper. The paper says they obtained them in December.

"E-mails, obtained by The State newspaper in December, between Gov. Mark Sanford and Maria, a woman in Buenos Aires, Argentina.

At the time, efforts to authenticate the e-mails were unsuccessful. However, Sanford’s office Wednesday did not dispute their authenticity." http://www.thestate.com/sanford/story/839350.html

When it comes to the Congress Critters and the SOBs fighting health care, I keep wondering how many of them have recently read Matthew 25: 31-46. Maybe we should send them all a pet goat so they could get used to the company

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew%2025

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/06/beyond-the-arc-with-don-imus.html#comment-239418

Oh Max,

Even the President is allowed a coffee break

Jamie -
Step into the light -

http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/mac?mco=MTM3MzI

Just saw the news about Farrah. Brave woman who put up one hell of a fight. RIP

Renee and KT ~ thanks for the welcome. Sanford's wife did it, no doubt. Who else had access?

Clarence Thomas? Oh, my. Don't get me started.

Jamie44 ~ iMac = double plus good, but if you overuse yours like I did mine, the hard drive may blow in 2 years. LoL Agree that Sanford should have left someone in charge, but not sure one incident would be impeachable. I mean, look at George Bush. No one was in charge for 8 years, even accounting for when he was there and supposedly in charge. On second thought .... retroactive impeachment might be good for my soul, especially with the recent revelations about how he shopped for an excuse for the Iraq war after setting the date. ;)

Rez -
Custer had it comin'.

The Minnesota Supremes usually issue decisions on Thursday. Still nothing on Coleman/Franken

Thought for the day :
" The weed of crime bears bitter fruit. "

"She would crush him like an empty beer can."

...that's one way to keep you husband faithful Max.
But I don't think that threat would be necessary for Michelle.

Picture for the day... to all the long-suffering women of the world. (Even if the pic might be photoshopped.)

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2604800&id=18297877889

Sorry, but picture # 3 at above link.

For the Mac users, I understand that there is a "PC side" that can interface with some PC only programs. My big one is my genealogy Family Tree program. Does anyone happen to know if Apple can handle it?

BOSTON - Dr. Jerri Nielsen FitzGerald, who diagnosed and treated her own breast cancer before a dramatic rescue from the South Pole, has died. She was 57.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31524259/ns/health-cancer/

Genealogy Software - Macintosh
Find family tree software programs written for the Macintosh operating system, with descriptions, reviews, free trial versions, comparisons, and tips from Mac users.

http://genealogy.about.com/od/software_mac/Genealogy_Software_Macintosh.htm

"....laws that prohibits people from accessing the personal e-mail accounts of others without permission. Where did those e-mails come from?"

anna, welcome aboard.
if he were using his state provided computer and it's taxpayer paid for internet system, the relevant open records law of the state and whatever regulatory/personnel rules for public employee on usage may have put them in a releasable category.
more than likely it was someone on staff (secretary, info techie, jealous intern, etc.). can't imagine the wife wanting any passionate/romantic cooing public.

Thanks CBob

That answers my question. The Reunion program will import my Family Tree files and has all the bells and whistles. It will mean buying a new piece of software, but if I'm going whole hog on the Apple another $100 isn't going to freak me out.

"Doing it in the oval office was on the taxpayer's dime."

max, the intern was an uncompensated (well, at no public expense let us say) volunteer and he paid for the cigar.

re e-mails

it's possible that the argentine lady in question may have hit the wrong send button or had motives other than pure.

Rez -
Custer had it comin'.

Posted by: Colorado Bob | June 25, 2009 2:12 PM

Hi Rez--I remembered (belatedly) this was the anniversary. And like Cbob, I agree. Custer does not cut anything like a heroic figure.

Reminded me though--my dad used to laugh and say that, when he was in the service, the guys who served in the 7th Cav made it a point to downplay Custer. He was apparently still a touchy subject, eighty years after the fact.

Phew...it's as hot as the Life and Adventures of Martin Chuzzlewit out there!

$.04:

Posted by: AnnaMolly Author Profile Page | June 25, 2009 1:29 PM

Regarding Sanford: The governor needs to resign or be removed from office not because of any moral hypocrisy or marital infidelity, but because he abandoned his constituents and left the country for 7 days without providing any contingencies in the event of anything which would require his official approval or input. He shirked his professional responsibility. It disappoints me personally, because he seemed to have integrity concerning fiscal and economic matters, and as he leans Libertarian, I like to see as much Libertarian representation in government at this time. Sorry Mr. Sanford; I like you, but you gotta go.

Regarding Apple Inc. products: They are good consumer products, but are essentially disposable Chinese plastic junk, destined to clog landfills for eternity. Everything you do with them you will have to pay for. For any given task you would like to achieve, with a PC, there is probably a legally free program available. With Macs, you have to pay for everything. Macs do crash, lag, and get viruses, just very rarely compared to PCs, and they are not easily upgradable by novice users, as PCs are. I've had my PC for 10 years, and it is easily upgraded or repaired when necessary. Yes, I have to recover it often, but it's like getting a new computer after I do; backing-up is important. Vista is awful; just install XP.

dark-lord,

So the good Governor is a libertine libertarian?

"Doing it in the oval office was on the taxpayer's dime " - utter nonsense. Not a dime of taxpayer money that wouldn't have been spent otherwise was spent because the BJ occurred in the White House.

Jamie, have you been listening to Thom? He mentioned that same verse from Mathew today.

The other way around, methinks, Joe. g1 nonetheless.

Ah, good point, DL.

Although either can be both a n and an adj. assuming that's what you meant.

Greetings, AnnaMolly!

I figure the press obtained the emails through some freedom of information provision of state law--that is if they were sent via a state-owned machine or on a network controlled by the state.

Damn. Farrah Fawcett died.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/25/farrah-fawcett-dies_n_220849.html

Your Lordship.

It is my understanding that the good governor was in contact with his staff through email and voice mail in case he was needed. There is no reason in this day and age that he couldn't perform his duties of office just as well in Argentina as South Carolina.

Jack

Jamie,

I've been using Windows since it was available on low-density 5-1/4" disks. That was a _long_ time ago.

The machine I'm using right now is running XP-Pro. It's solid and does fine, but with no bells and whistles.

I have the 64-bit version of Vista Ultimate on two computers--one a desktop and the other a laptop. The first has 4-gig of ram and the other 3-gig. It rocks on both and is rock solid. I keep current with all the available patches. The 64-bit version is far superior to the 32-bit based on my own experiences.

I have Win7 on my netbook with 3-gig. It's the 32-bit version. Its a superb operating system. Even with the low-powered Atom processor, it is truly speedy. And, I'm not talking about the dumbed-down version of Win7 that they plan for netbooks, I'm talking about the Ultimate with all the bells and whistles and overhead.

I also run Windows Home Server on another machine. It is a superb server. I leave it online, without rebooting, for weeks at a time. It handles shared files and does runs centralized backups for all the other computers.

I know that you're have real problems with your installation of Vista. Based on my experience, I think your jinxed, or at least your computer is :)

Jack, DL, not leaving anumber i"in case" something needing hisattention happened, and nothing suggests that anything did, is a no harm, no foul incident in my book. It's like the concept of free floating negligence - until someone is harmed it is not actionable.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/06/beyond-the-arc-with-don-imus.html#comment-239437
CBob

Many thanks for posting the link to the story on Dr. Jerri Nielsen FitzGerald's passing. Such a marvelous woman!

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/06/beyond-the-arc-with-don-imus.html#comment-239452

Pogo

Caught Thom while on the way to the store. Knew the verses from a brush with Methodism more than 50 years ago. Just ask Hillary. They are a great group of "by their works ye shall know them" branch of Christianity. :-)

Jamie, one of my best friends growing up was a Methodist (he was also an atheist, and a boy scout). He referred to them as the Methodicals.

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Flatus

The Vista Home Pro version is sluggish, overloaded with unnecessary crap that you can't detach without messing up everything else. Does quirky things with files that you never told it to do ... I know a whole raft of family pictures are in there somewhere, but damned if I can find them.

This latest crash and burn was while running a recommended Chkdsk that locked up in stage 5 of 5.

Vista would be bearable if you could get help, but either you are among thousands in the forums begging for some sort of assistance, or it costs you a by the hour fortune for some tech to deign to notice your existence.

MS has the typical monopoly's attitude towards customers: Be glad we sold it to you in the first place.

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Pogo

"Methodicals" pretty well describes the world view of "be useful".

Jamie....
I have a good friend that owns a Mac for nothing but his genealogical searches.

Flatus.... I don't think the problem with Vista is Jamie.... all HP employees have been told not to install Vista on their work machines..... some of HP's internal software is not compatible with it... they've been instructed to use XP until Microsoft can fix the problem.... and Rick just got a new work laptop sent to him yesterday with XP installed.... so it ain't fixed yet.

And.... I'm grokking y'all.... :0)

renee, IOW, you ain't got Vista, but you feel their pain?

pogo....
I ain't got Vista because I have a Mac....

Rick ain't got Vista because HP won't send it to him....

as for pain.... ibuprofen always works for me....

Well, y'all, things have slowed down here and I've got to begin my almost nonstop running around of LP to this sporting event or that. Kid's got game, I've got gas(oline), and time is slipping away. If for some reason I don't chime in tomorrow, everyone have a lovely weekend.

Renee, I think that Vista pain is outside the reach of ibuprofen's analgesic qualities.

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Cbob- No doubt! I use to have that t-shirt along with the "Custer wore Arrow shirts" bumper sticker. :-)

Hi kt- My brother married a Hunkpapa Lakota (Sitting Bull's band) from Ft Yates, ND, and they play up the victory with a celebration. It's an observed tribal holiday on the rez.

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Renee,

For Vista I would recommend Opiates

My Brain Fart of the Day

Jamie, normally I would think that funny ...about Clinton, that is. I don't care much of what a politician does to get their rocks off unless it is illegal or pathetically unfaithful. Bill knew the Republicans were breathing down his back. As a result of his stupidity, it cost his administration, the country and 2000.

It is the consequence of idiocy that isn't funny. Spitzer case in point. I can be an idiot because it harms only me. Spitzer had thousands of fanatical fans and political associates he made promises to. He went to a fine high school. Months into office as Governor there circulated the rumor that the first Jewish President was on its way. Where, to a hotel on the taxpayer's account?

Gary Hart had a shot.

Edwards?

Despite the indiscretions of youth (and don't most have them?), a hard-nosed, determined and principled politician doesn't let their lust or failed relationship derail the trust and respect they pretend to represent to both their supporters AND THE CAUSE of the day. Would it be nice if political couples really loved each other, or get single?

From the Liberal Side:

“The SoCons are the threat and as long as they represent the face of the GOP, Democrats can blast their added hypocrisy in sexual matters because the GOP is the Party of God and Virtue. If you assail their hypocrisy you defeat the values they represent.”

Well, Republicans sin because all sin or none sins at all. Republicans are not immune to sin because they promote SoCon views. Conservatives would argue that it is not about the principles (conservative doesn’t necessarily mean social conservatism), just that Sanford proves Republicans are human and not always in keeping with their professed opinions about morality. Political couples are an odd lot if you ask me. And I don't buy the idea that we should put people in charge of our laws and enforcements who can't manage their own personal life. Can't be a great candidate if you're a prime candidate for blackmail.

If it is to kill the SoCons as a political force and thereby destroy all SoCon principles this failed strategy doesn't work. The Men’s room fiasco bring them down? The idea that you damage the core principles by connecting Sanford to the ideals he represents when Democrats have warts gets little traction. In fact going after Sanford seems to reflect a lack of better argument. Insincere, probably. Irreligious, perhaps.

When Liberals go after rather absolutist socio-religious moral beliefs which many Agnostic, Atheists and moderate religious folk are positively informed by (see below) in connecting Sanford's behavior with believing in said beliefs, they needlessly annoy a large group. This is not a winning strategy. It ultimately pisses off a lot of people and it also reveals a deeper truth the media would love to forget: that certain quasi-absolutist beliefs are inherent in most rationalistic schools of thought and qualify them as a "religion". What differs is the definition of "God". Liberals are no less absolutist and moralistic in their advocacy. In fact they are even louder because the claim life, the environment, the planet

I'm not sure Socialism or Christianity are invalidated because a group of people utilizing their absolutist creeds for political power crap all over their self-righteousness. Messengers are rarely the message.

I find it amusing that in the case of the miscreant Ahmadinejad, his principles are rarely attacked. Somehow Liberals spin him and the clerics as some kind of unique perversion of personality, but in the case of Sanford, his behavior is a reflection of the failed ideals Republicans promote. Now as Ron Paul, he isn’t so honesty about his anti-Semitism and his expectations of a Paul Doctrine as foreign policy are hilariously irrational. I’m not sure I would feel comfortable with such a person in charge of things. I have a higher bar for the rationality of POTUS.

In Paul and Znet we find the "loud" extremes almost touching over our heads in the curvature of political space. You can see how absolutists mingles at the edges of extremism. Islam merging with Nazis in Berlin. Survivalist merging with Islamofascists and 9/11 ers. But be careful (depending on where you stand) at looking up.

Once in a very large space I pictured the ground right under my feet as the Center with the rising mirrored walls in the distance around me becoming less Moderate as they climbed to hold the Principled Ceiling. Hundreds of feet above my head it sloped gently even higher and in the highest crack where the sloping sides of the Principled Ceiling met, a small brown spot appeared which I could barely see. It eventually got larger and darker until it began dripping and a drop fell all the way down through the hazy air. It splattered off the top of my head with a loud "plop". The further I walked away, the less I could smell the odor.

With Edwards to your back, Hypocrats last as fast as news cycles spin.

Rez

At the fun risk of taking this conversation delightfully downhill, where does one find a Hunkpapa?

Renee,

The laptop I installed Vista on is a new HP. It came in loaded with HP crapware, much of it in hidden files, that I had to purge before doing anything else. I had to go to HPs site to find 64-bit drivers for their machine and then create my own install DVD with them on it. In other words, they did everything possible to make a straight-forward install difficult. For a person without expert knowledge, it would be an impossible install.

And, if HP is having problems with any of their production software on any Windows platform, it's because they're gaming the system. In other words, they're using their intimate knowledge of Windows to access undocumented features. Unfortunately, Microsoft doesn't support undocumented features so people trying to take advantage of them often find themselves SOL.

I was careful in not being critical of Jamie. I accept the descriptions of her problems as being factual and madding. I presented my experiences using a different version of the software as a counterbalance.

If I was running a large business I think using Vista would be insanity as it is a high risk platform for many users and because it offers virtually no advantages for business users.

I also have the 64-bit version of XP Pro. It is a screamer, but is not well supported.

A nice tribute to the late F. Fawcett:

http://nancynall.com/

OK Jamie, I'm game. where? Seems like I heard this one long ago. :-)

I'm not a computer expert.... I don't know a quarter of what any of you are talking about.... but I didn't explain it very well.... my bad...

Flatus.... I'm not talking about the computers that HP sells for home users....
Rick works for HP.... he tells me that all big computer companies have their own software for their own internal use.... and Vista is not compatible with something the company uses for networking....

this is software that you.... and no one else.... will ever see the light of day if you don't work for HP.... sorry for confusing you....

Flatus

My computer needs are really straight forward. Heavy use of documents because of research and blog. My genealogical files. Music and photo files. Zipping rapidly around the internet tubes.

That's about it. The sluggish response despite regularly clearing temporary files was the real bear on a minute by minute aggravation, The other things such as seemingly losing files was the wanting to throw the box at the wall along with not handling doc files and screwing with all my old materials.

I had XP before and loved it. Vista should never have been released. It simply proved that MS didn't really care about customers only dollars.

Renee, I understand exactly what you're talking about. If I had something of that nature, I wouldn't be using any flavor of windows, but would uses unix or one of its many variants where the users have access to the source code.

From this conversation, I guess the lesson is that if Mark Sanford had only installed Vista on himself, there would have been no problem. Not only would he have been unable to keep it up, but it is incompatible with foreign applications.

Rez -
I was at the battle field on the 4th of July back in 2000. Lot's of folks from the rez there that day.
Another place where I took a tractor trailer where it really shouldn't go.
Bent's Fort was the best though, I got there early on a Saturday, had the whole place to myself. You park a quarter of a mile away and walk in to the site, all the park service people are in period costume. It is a reproduction, but it's done down to the last detail.

http://www.nps.gov/archive/beol/vtour.htm

The most famous cook at the fort was Charlotte Green, whose cooking, it had been said, "was celebrated from Long's Peak to the Cumbres Espanoles".

Cjoe..... ROFL!

Flatus.... ok.... but Rick doesn't have a choice..... he has to use what they tell him to use.... and HP has told him (and the rest of the company.... which is the second largest computer company in the world) to use XP.....

I have a funny feeling that HP knows why... and certainly better than you or I...

I wonder if Craig is saving up $20 bills?

WH will make Gibbs in the dunk tank available for all reporters. $20 a throw to charity.

Jamie

Is there any way that you can get back to XP?

Fun List: Republican governors likely to reach the White House

http://www.npr.org/blogs/politicaljunkie/2009/06/republican_governors_whos_left.html

CB -
I have a niece who lives at Crow Agency, MT.( Big Horn battlefield). When I was a kid they did a re-enactment thing every year. I think it's long gone, but Crow Fair and Rodeo is one of the largest gathering on the north plains (2nd wkend August). They use to go by tepee count as to attendance. :-) Probably still do. 1,000 would be normal.

Max

I was truly angry at Clinton for the selfishness and arrogance you describe. I was more upset at the venality and dispicable lacivious behavior of the Republicans.

They cared nothing for the country only power and vengence and what they deserve in exchange I'm not cruel enough to wish on any human being, but I derive a great deal of pleasure from thinking about their justified downfall.

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Rez,

I don't have a clue though I may have met one or two in my checkered past. It was the combination of hunk and papa that attracted my attention. I thought you might know where one could find a tribe of the delightful cretures. :-)

Quilt gardens designed to pull in tourists

http://elkhartproject.newsvine.com/_news/2009/06/12/2922934-quilt-gardens-designed-to-pull-in-tourists

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Dang Jamie, I was waiting on the punch line. lol There was an old joke that went like that. But the straight answer is Standing Rock rez.

Michael Jackson has been transported to a hospital in LA...early reports indicate that he was in cardiac arrest, and that things don't look good for him.

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Flatus

Not really. This was a new purchase preprogrammed with Vista not a download. I suppose I could take it in have the whole thing scrubbed and replaced with XP. Don't have a clue what it would cost. I'll check that out when I take the box in to Geek Squad to rescue my genealogy files and load into my currently borrowed computer.

Posted by: anon-paranoid | June 25, 2009 9:24 AM :
"So how safe is the food we eat?"

If you eat bacon, you are in for a tough time. It is nitrate soaked cholestrol. While it is not as deadly as it was 30 years ago (thank you, Federal Regulators), when a slice of bacon contained as much carcinogenic material as a pack of cigs, and a 12 oz package was as carcinogenic as a carton of cigs, the stuff still ought to have a health hazard warning.

"At the fun risk of taking this conversation delightfully downhill, where does one find a Hunkpapa?"

I'm with Jamie, Rez -- where are these guys? And why didn't you send one of them to my Tulsa signing?

Rez -
The winter I spent at Douglas , Wyoming I read a great little book at the local library on the weather days we didn't work.
It was by a Crow woman who had an uncle there. It tells the story of how when Edward Curtis came to the Agency, he learned the Crow version of the battle. ( It was nothing like the Budweiser Saloon Poster ). From some of the eye witnesses .

Anyway , he was appalled by the distance the myth had strayed from the story of the battle. He was good friends with Teddy Roosevelt, and urged the president to set the record straight.
Roosevelt told him to forget about it, he wasn't going to wade into that
problem. That Americans hate to have their myths tampered with.

Libby Custer had done her work too well.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/06/beyond-the-arc-with-don-imus.html#comment-239482

Flatus,

That's the whole reason I stopped buying HP computers. You can get the crapwear removed by the techs when you buy one, but instead I switched over to Vaio, which I love. No problems with my vista on the Vaio either. My hubby has an older HP that he changed over from Vista to XP, and it works fine now, plus he had all the HP software removed too. He had a friend that had a business copy of xp and did it for him for free though.

Pop star Michael Jackson was rushed to a hospital this afternoon by Los Angeles Fire Department paramedics.

Capt. Steve Ruda said paramedics responded to a call at Jackson's home around 12:26 p.m. He was not breathing when they arrived. The parademics performed CPR and took him to UCLA Medical Center, Ruda told The Times.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/06/beyond-the-arc-with-don-imus.html#comment-239504

Rez,

Patsi and I thank you. Standing Rock is certainly appropriate.

One more thing about the Battle of the Greasy Grass -
The news arrived in DC on the 4th of July while the 100th ann. of the Declaration of Independence was taking place. Everyone said it put a real damper on the party.

I was really sorry to hear about Farrah Fawcett, and now there's a report out there that Michael Jackson has gone into Cardiac Arrest.
Michael Jackson Rushed to Hospital in Cardiac Arrest http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/ktla-michael-jackson,0,938575.story?track=rss

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joe, but he wouldn't have been safe with windows open either.

oops, I didn't refresh

tt,

You could add :

rev. ralph reed, who was small shark in abramoff's pool. Self-righeous little ralphie tried to scam an Indian tribe out of millions of $$.

dan coffey - Alaskan 'family values' pol, moonlighted for Sex Abuse Industry; caught discussing killing a colleague.

bill starr, Alaskan 'family values' pol, caught attempting to extort police support; caught discussing killing a colleague.

What was the name of the bush aide who was caught shoplifting socks at Target ?

No corruption is too small.

FAR WEST ~ 1876

Built: 1870, Pittsburg, Pennsylvania.
Type: Sternwheel wooden hull packet.
Size: 190' x 33' x 6' . Could carry 200 tons and 30 cabin passengers, drawing only 20 inches, un-ladened. Powered by three boilers, 15's - 5'.

Operating on the Missouri, Yellowstone and Osage Rivers, the Far West earned a place in history in 1876, under the able command of Captain Grant Marsh. He had taken General Alfred H. Terry and Custer's columns to the Little Big Horn and while waiting with supplies, the Far West crew received the news that Custer and his command had been wiped out two days before.

Later, on June 30, the wounded of Major Reno's 7th Cavalry detachment were loaded onto the Far West, and Marsh traveled all day and night carrying the wounded to the hospital at Fort Lincoln, making the run from Fort Pease, Montana, to Fort Abraham Lincoln, Dakota Territory, 710 miles in 54 hours ~ the fastest trip ever made by a steamboat on the Missouri, despite the ever-shifting sandbars and the numerous snags that made navigation on the Missouri River extremely hazardous.

On July 5, the Far West reached Bismarck, and four days later, Captain Marsh headed the Far West back up the Missouri to the Little Big Horn with supplies and horses for the soldiers left there.
In this scene, the Far West is pictured in the early morning at the mouth of the Rosebud, as George Armstrong Custer's 7th Cavalry breaks camp before the campaign.

The Far West was snagged and lost on the Missouri River at Mullanthy Bend, seven miles below St. Charles, on October 30, 1883.

http://steamboattimes.com/steamboats_1861~99.html

TMZ was the first to report that Michael Jackson went into Cardiac Arrest and now 'they're' saying he died. I hope they're wrong.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/06/beyond-the-arc-with-don-imus.html#comment-239509

LOL @ Patsi. You were in the "Civilized Tribe's" territory.

All the wild ones are out west or up north. Although I bet you'd give some of those crazy Comanche and Lakota boys a run for their money. :-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Civilized_Tribes

Chloe...
I hope they're wrong about Jackson also.... 50 is too young to die....

and in the pc world... Rick actually prefers Compaq... which is also owned by HP.... but whenever he has something important of his own personal use...
he's on my Mac....

"Although I bet you'd give some of those crazy Comanche and Lakota boys a run for their money. :-)"

Fifteen years ago they couldn't have outrun me, Rez...:)

Jamie

The Federal Lemon Law may apply to your computer.

'..but whenever he has something important of his own personal use...he's on my Mac..'

Renee, I can understand why, as I have never heard anything bac about a Mac, only good things. My husband plans on getting one when he buys his next computer.

bac=bad....I've never heard anything bad about a Mac

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Patsi,

My sentiments exactly. Let's hear it for a good memory. :-)

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Flatus

No such luck unless you want to make it a class action for every HP sold with VISTA.

It's not that it doesn't work. It just doesn't work well enough that the owner doesn't start thinking homicidal thoughts about Bill Gates.

Governor Hit the Bar with the Mistress

Posted Jun 25th 2009 3:15PM by TMZ Staff

Governor Mark SanfordWe've been on the hunt in Buenos Aires, Argentina and found the bar where Governor Mark Sanford brought his mistress -- so how do you say PDA in Spanish?

Carlos Soto, the owner of Guido's Bar, says he's seen Sanford and Maria Belen Chapur there several times over the last few months -- most recently last week.

Soto says they were "all over each other" last week in his bar, "kissing, holding hands and drinking wine."

Soto was impressed with Maria, saying she has "un cuerpazo'" -- translation: a banging body.

Soto also said Maria has green eyes and dirty blonde hair.

http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/25/governor-mark-sanford-maria-belen-chapur-south-carolina-mistress-/

Regarding the Sanford ordeal, Rush sed; "And Bill Clinton was in Argentina the other night,"

I knew the wingnuts would try and tie Bill C to his problems.

http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200906250024

You all have my condolences for your Vista and computer problems, friends. My Toshiba, purchased last Winter, was infested with Vista and a Bazillion Bloatware packages designed to slow everything to the speed of my old ca. 1983 crank-driven Osborn. For $100, a freelance geek made the Toshiba useable. He said that installing XP would only further slow down the Vista-crippled thing. Apparently, Vista is irrevocably welded into the heart of the poor beast, like a tumaor that cannot be reached by any 'puter surgeon.

Btw, if guvnuh sanfudd runs for Senate and wins, will he be given a seat on the foreign relations committee ?

Michael Jackson pronounced dead

Bill Gates is the preeminent philanthropist of our day.

Smooth Criminal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex30DYwQlHU

Dark Lord

I'm well aware of the good deeds of Bill Gates and I do admire him. It is the conduct of the company that I deplore.

Posted by: Rezdog | June 25, 2009 6:21 PM : 'Regarding the Sanford ordeal, Rush sed; "And Bill Clinton was in Argentina the other night,"

I knew the wingnuts would try and tie Bill C to his problems.'

http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200906250024
________________________________________
I wonder why rush wants to remind us that he and his boyfriend got their meds mixed up.

"Dear...Jackson...family...,

My...deepest...condolences....

Signed...,

Mark...Sanford"

Champ

I am in your debt.!! I just opened my last 2 e-mails-and will follow thru with as much as I can.
I also want to tell you that I plan to pass it forward to other people, (With the same unselfish spirit that you had ) like me.

You would be surprised at how many intelligent contractors, tradesmen out there that have asked for help, writing a letter, a contract, etc. Thanks for the kind words too!

ps. My buddy John. The guy I wrote about-that joined the Marine Corps ( yeah XR- a Marine-wanna make something out of it ?) with me on the buddy system. John asked me who was sending him emails thru my pc. He said that "he did not recognize the writer".

Than he said, "that it has to be me-that I would never let anyone speak for me". I wouldn't tell him anything over the phone or thru e-mails. I told him that I would cost him lunch to find out. How Im doing this.

He said it would be worth it. He is the only one ( other than here) that knows that I did not finish High school. He will believe me cos. he knows that I don't lie. A huge thanks. Your friend Solar.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/06/beyond-the-arc-with-don-imus.html#comment-239534

What separates a cuerpazo from just a regular hot body? Why the curves, of course. But not just any curves. We’re talking jaw-dropping, spine-tingling, sweat-inducing, can’t-avert-your-eyes curves.

Learn something new everyday.

Black or White

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI9OYMRwN1Q

Rez

If you are traveling the free road down into the Baja, you will see signage that reads "Cuervo Peligroso". Liberally translated it means "Slow down you brain dead idiot, the road ahead will kill you".

Apparently Sanford ran into a Cuervo Peligroso he couldn't handle.

Sky Saxon of '60s rock band the Seeds dies

By JIM VERTUNO
ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER

AUSTIN, Texas -- Sky Saxon, lead singer and founder of the 1960s band the "Seeds," who had a Top 40 hit in 1967 with "Pushin' Too Hard," has died after a brief illness.

http://www.seattlepi.com/pop/1403ap_us_obit_saxon.html

The ACLU asks, Have you been harrassed at the airport? Tell us your story:

http://action.aclu.org/site/R?i=cqTSKCeUw9tuBuNihqJ_0w..

Earlier this month, Italian astronaut Maurizio Cheli electrified the green flying world (okay, it's a small — but dedicated — group) with his record-setting flight of a fully electric airplane.

The electric SkySpark flew for the first time June 8, then on June 10 was airborne for 8 minutes and hit a top speed of 155 mph (250 km/h). That speed is said to be a record speed for a 100-percent electrically powered aircraft, according to SkySpark.

http://www.livescience.com/technology/090625-skyspark-electric-plane-speed-record.html

Jamie,

I wonder if there a connection with Cuervo Gold tequilla?

Juan Cuervo?

oops Jose

Rez

I would not want to marry a cuerpazo. HEY YOU- what U looking at??. And you-didn't I tell you to wear that potato sack. I went out with a cpl. beleive me. They are not fun to be with out in public.

If the cuerpazo is a flirt. Big-big troubles my friend. SO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KE1EoZSz4g&feature=related#

Don't mention it, Solar; my pleasure.

Whoa, there. Chloe. I wasn't thinking """ "perhaps it is time to rethink the idea of constantly electing middle-aged heterosexual men to positions of high importance""""

Actually I was thinking it is a good time to be a woman and then immediately thought, No, that's not right. So I tried to think of the exact words I wanted to use.

The closest I can come up with were what I said. Women are looking good right now with so many men screwing up and, all too often, killing people esp women. Maybe that's why men are killing women in Iran and Illinois and other places - I DON'T know, but
Scott Peterson and Drew Peterson and the guy from Joyce Meyers church group added to the old men who run Iran and have kept the young Neda's body (apparently).......well, women seem to be on the forefront of sanity and responsibility right now. I'm proud of how many of my fellas are acting. ( I know I'm gonna get a list of bad women, from that line, but the list ain't anywhere near what we've got on the guys. Besides, read on.)

I'm not insinuating superiority, esp with Kate Gosselin and a few of the moms screwing up. It just looks as if women are out in front now.

But I would like to see more of them in power.

About mal-practice suits - some docs are named in lawsuits who had nothing to do with a case, on the theory of deep pockets. If someone signs that they understand risks, they have no right to sue, in my opinion.

Oh, yeah, welcome, AnnaMolly.

The Michael Jackson thing is so strange. Didn't he do a lot of drugs or was that rumor?

Hey Sol man

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NF5XU-k2Vk

LOL Solar, you beat me to it.

Solar,

cuerpazo = mamacita ??

Cuervo simply means curve.

There are gentle curves and there are Peligrosso (dangerous) curves. Jose Cuervo is probably one of the more peligrosso curves. :-)

The Gossamer Albatross was a human-powered aircraft built by American aeronautical engineer Dr. Paul B. MacCready's AeroVironment. On June 12, 1979 it completed a successful crossing of the English Channel to win the second Kremer prize.

So who needs an electric airplane, already.

Rez -

I can't get into the Cuervos=mamacitas with U, or the Jose Cuervo either. I just got out of the t m dog house, for that lat stunt that I made: Although I do think that it was Tony's fault for not getting rid of those D____'s.

I can think of two good Jose C stories, but not going to tell em on a Thursday night.

Since 1997, more than 50 micro bakeries have been established in countries targeted by the Temple Solar Project committee. A majority of these ovens are in operation in Honduras. Others are placed in Ghana, Nepal and the Dominican Republic for example. In 2001, the project has coordinated funding between clubs in participating countries, sponsors and the Rotary Foundation for eight Villager ovens to the Dominican Republic, one to Ghana and one for the start-up of an urgently needed micro bakery that will feed students at a school in Angola, Africa.

http://www.rotarysolarovens.org/ovensites.html

What a terrible day.

Billy Jean

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En-cHBv7UpA

Beat It

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uqxo1SKB0z8

Thriller

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uqxo1SKB0z8

Yes, Corey. It is.

Bethy

I just consider Jackson a lost child. Whetever he might have done or not done in the legal sense was an outgrowth to too much talent, too young, used by too many people. It is sad and I choose to remember the talent.

Flatus...

In your comment at 3:43pm you said you had the full blown version of Win7 and that made me curious.

As I understood from several Tech sites I use at work Win7 was available for evaluation and testing by computer geeks who had to sign up for it.

It was still being offered up until last week I believe and the version that Microsoft was allowing to be downloaded was a BETA version.

So my question is where did you get a full blown working version of Win7 or is yours the BETA version that Microsoft had out for evaluation for free?

It is the release candidate--essentially the version that is going through final tweaking and validation.

Flatus...

Thank you.

Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 9 – 1 Billion and Counting

http://news.softpedia.com/editors/browse/marius-oiaga

MTV is playing non stop Jackson videoa

http://gadgets.softpedia.com/news/

Try one more time to get the right page up, but they are all good.

http://news.softpedia.com/newsImage/Windows-7-Windows-8-Windows-9-1-Billion-and-Counting-2.jpg/

Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 9 – 1 Billion and Counting

david ackles's great song, performed by Sir Elton and Elvis Costello:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNwr7QsCb5M&feature=related

Dexter

A companion piece: "What's New"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1uujp4uDj4

Oh, Jamie, I completely agree. I asked about the drugs
because I'm pretty ignorant re that area of pop culture and I had a vague recollection of hearing talk to that end. If he did do a lot of drugs, I would think they were what damaged his heart. Everyone on tv is talking about how frail he was and ill etc. and it seems to me there's a reason.

I see these old films of him as he was, and can't help wondering how different it could have been. He was so handsome and had such a clear happy healthy face. What a sad sad end of story.

LOL:

A google search for "cuerpazo" yields a picture of David Hasselhoff in a speedo and patent-leather jacket.

Michael Jackson....already....

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Mark Twain on death:

"Life was not a valuable gift, but death was. Life was a fever-dream made up of joys embittered by sorrows, pleasure poisoned by pain; a dream that was a nightmare-confusion of spasmodic and fleeting delights, ecstasies, exultations, happinesses, interspersed with long-drawn miseries, griefs, perils, horrors, disappointments, defeats,humiliations, and despairs--the heaviest curse devisable by divine ingenuity; but death was sweet, death was gentle, death was kind; death healed the bruised spirit and the broken heart, and gave them rest and forgetfulness; death was man's best friend; when man could endure life no longer, death came and set him free."
- Letters from the Earth

JAMIE:
I bought that vinyl album the day it was released and I had it until my wife wore it out.

My favorite youtube music videos are those ones... sturge has posted them... that just have a phonograph with the vinyl platter spinning and the album cover in the background.

Ah, Dex...Thanks for that! Letters From the Earth is one of my all-time favorite books.

no problemo, harborwoman.
Didja see "Bruno" sort of sexually assault Conan last night?
"Bruno" is kinda funny, I guess, but I watched Johnny Depp on Dave Letterman , too, and Letterman tolerates Depp's little lame remarks and retorts, and I don't mind Depp doing that either.
I guess that's just Johnny Depp, billionaire movie star.

Hey! Bear and then Harborwoman today - a good haul!

somerset seasons: pictures from england

http://somersetseasons.blogspot.com/

Max Blumenthal on Tina's "Daily Beast"

At the same time, Sanford proudly broadcasted his devotion to the Christian right, taking strict positions against abortion and gay rights while pushing for the impeachment of President Bill Clinton and the resignation of former Rep. Bob Livingston for engaging in extramarital affairs. During his three terms in the House, Sanford belonged to “C Street,” an evangelical men’s “accountability group” funded by a secretive international group called the Fellowship. Senator John Ensign, who recently admitted to having an affair, was among the congressmen who lived in C Street’s $1.1 million Capitol Hill dormitory.
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This is the crux of the matter.

While democrats may enjoy seeing another republican clinton-castigating much-more-moral-than-thee blow-hard pee in his pants on live tv, it's his own, his republicans, who will stone him into resignation...........

that forgiving and welcoming him back if he do right.....that's a legal gambit.......that feller is argentina bound on a fast train, honey......peace in that house after those e-mails? nahhhh....
think: steel magnolias

and iron butterflies......

think: "Dodsworth"

not the story nor the back story of dodsworth.......just one little piece of it...........

good movie, by the way......gary cooper as dods.......

for evlis, michael, and mark...........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY_tX4N220I&feature=PlayList&p=2E6C6E318B87D517&index=0