Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

Woo Hoo !!

The Paradigm of time evolves and changes.

It is always easy to arm chair QB after the game and with the environment has changed. I am sure that the he hopes that Obama shares what was the first and primary concern for President Bush which was to keep and maintain the safety of our country. Also to give Obama time to grow and mature. Obama has received the luxury of a new paradigm that Pres Bush did not receive.

Also that the measure of humanity that we of the USA have maintained vs that of the Islamic Terrorist really has not changed. But heck it is a good distraction provided by some.

Craig,,,,First of all,,,,Bush will say what Cheney wants him to say,,,he was the boss no?,,second of all ,,,,your line about Bushes yet unborn grandchildren ,,that will run for POTUS,,is very true,,,,and very sad,,,,there is just too much in your thread to make fun of (Bush that is),,share his thoughts,,,,now that no one is telling him what to say!!

Shrub cleaning up crap...wow that is a change for the better

from last thread

Chloe

Thanks for the Email,,,you have one now also. Going to a Sunday show this holiday weekend,,,Is M,,a holiday?

PAt,,,,,,,thanks for that Blondy joke,,,,I liked it,,and used it already,,,I will tell you one later tonight,,,,but I never met a dumb blond,,,,,well maybe one,,,Sue, long story

Carol,,,,I still think that you should have someone helping around your house,,,,,but NO,,,NO,,,you should never hire football players,,,they are lazy, out of the football field,,,and they are primadonnas,,,when that kids father gave him a toyota,,,,all he needed was gas $,,,but not willing to work for it,,,,,,,,,and you can get someone that is a good worker for ten bucks and hr.cash,,,,,all kids are what they used to be,,,but some are used to being given what they want without working for it,,,,,On of my biggest,,,father moments ,,,was when one of my sons Bosses,,,(we were at a bar listening to his band,,,,surprised me,,they were very good) told me that Tommy was a very very good worker.,,,I used to get him up,,,very early in the am,,,and help me pour concrete on the weekends,,and treated him like any other laborer.,,,hard.

Pogo,,,,,,Thanks for the shout out,,,,and here,,,check it all out,,,but the # 2,,,is what Im ordering for your lunch today,,,gonna send a copy to Mrs P,,,she will know how to keep you in line,,HA!

You are what you eat, and that includes your brain. So what is the ultimate mastermind diet?,,,

Don 1

Don't go messing with my string theory,,,,the same as religion ,,where did you get that from,,,???

Pogo,,,,don't know why I couldn't get this link in with the comments to you,,,,but here

http://www.newscientist.com/search?rbauthors=Kate+Douglas%2C+Alison+George%2C+Bob+Holmes%2C+Graham+Lawton%2C+John+McCrone%2C+Alison+Motluk+and+Helen+Phillips+

Scottie dogs rule!

I tell ya - when he is not driving our Country into the ditch - W is kinda likable...

Thanks, Solar - omelet and salad, I could live with that lunch. Now about those beans on toast for breakfast.... ummmm... sounds a little too.... ummm.... British sounding for my tastes.

Craig, ha! I have this image of a cartoon of GWB in boots and a cowboy hat carrying a baggie full of dog crap and th' missus out walking Barney, surrounded by 12 guys in black suits and sunglasses talking into their sleeves. There's one little kid crying to her mommy that the bad black dog bit her and and a kid with a water balloon hiding in the tree just down the sidewalk.

Wyden chastises Insurance companies on health plan

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/wyden-hits-back-at-unions-in-healthcare-fight-2009-05-22.html

Ping, WADR, the yardstick against which I measure our humanity is not Islamic terrorists. That is Cheney logic at work.

Too bad Bush didn't give Cheney two commands when they left office: SIT and SHUT UP.

1 in 7 released detainees ...

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/05/nyt_reporter_maybe_1_in_7_detainees_didnt_return_to_terrorism.php

let's apply this logic justifying holding the other 6 indefinitely and see where it takes us.

War on crime... OK to hold 6 innoncent people suspected of having involvment with crime because if all 7 are released one will become a criminal.

War on drugs... OK to hold indefinitely 6 innoncent people suspected of having involvment with drugs because if all 7 are released one will be involved with drugs after release.

War on poverty .. (the conservatives are gonna love this one) OK to provide support to 6 people who might be poor indefinitely because a seventh will return to poverty if support for all is discontinued.

At some point we have to decide that it's not productive being in anger mode all the time.

Maybe we should attack the faults in the system that enabled the hijacking of our government. And correct those faults.

Then, because the 'system' is fixed, we can let the legal system sort out what to do with the people that may be subject to indictment.

On the logic of keeping detainees off US Soil, have any of the hard liners taken a look at the OTM (other than Mexican) numbers coming across that little 3000 mile border. Thos are only the ones caught. Sure most are simply fleeing impossible government or economic conditions and just want a job, but heck they MIGHT be terrorists.

This country can't be in a constant state of fear over what might happen. Good police work will handle the majority of the problems as has been proven over and over again all over Europe. Sure some bad things will happen. Some people will be injured or die. You can't stop every single crazy in the world from attacking you.

Take precautions, be as prepared as you can, then go about your life. Cowardice is for wimps - send Cheney back to the hills so he will feel safe and leave the rest of us alone.

flatus, I'd like to think that's what Obama is trying to do, but it's kinda hard to do that in any reasonable manner when lunatics like Cheney are given a stage to justify the faults as, shat was it he said - "legal, necessary and the right thing to do"? and some folks seem to forget he's nothing more than a private citizen now with nothing more than an opinion - aside from the fact that he helped engineer many of the faults in the system that Obama is trying to deal with of course.

I keep looking at sites like Huffpo & RCP and clicking links and ending up reading bits and pieces of Cheney's speech from yesterday. Good, lord, it's hard to know where to start.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/21/cheney-says-obama-himself_n_206474.html

He looks at the world through a lens that must have been ground by M. C. Escher.

So far as I can tell, Gitmo physically resembles what is mandated by the Geneva Conventions in that it allows contact among the prisoners, etc.

If we were to bring them to the States, it seems as if most everybody says they must be super-maxed--something certainly in contravention of the Conventions.

Time to convene a meeting of out allies and get a consensus on what to do. Have the meeting in the sunlight.

jamie, for god's sake, stop talking sense. :-)

solar, that time - lunch (Hope you don't mind if I skip the omelet).

Pogo, every time you click on one of those sites and look at a specific section of the site, those clicks are recorded. The way to change behavior is to stop clicking on the sites that have proved themselves to pander to one radical bent or another.

Pogo,,,,not paying attention to the time again,,,foiled again,,,,,at least Chloe wasn't around to distract me,,she is trouble,,,everybody thinks that she is jusssst so goody goody,,,but I know,,I know how she is,,,,she is____________and I can prove it.

Im going to have to start my exercising earlier,,,or a little later,,after lunch,,,I tried the beans on 12 grain toast this am( i will get used to this,whats going to be hard is leaving my cakes,,and sweets,),,not bad, cos I had it with a jalapeno and coffee,,,the pepper was hot,,,the coffee was hot,,,not time to think about the bean sandwich,,,,,no will have an omelet for lunch,,and a salad,,,,I will follow that articles 10 steps,,to a better brain,( I already have a heart),,I can use that,,,,sing along,,,,IIIIf I only had a brain haha ,,,finished work out,,,now for a run,on the tread mill.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/what-does-bush-think.html#comment-229817

Pogo,

I have to admit a little impatience with the "what if" folks. The whole problem with life is that "stuff" happens and to top that off, you don't get out of it alive.

I don't know of anyone who from the day of their birth to the day of their death didn't have a single rotten thing happen to them. You deal with the event when it happens. Wasting your life worrying about it only makes the eventual and inevitable that much worse.

Wales sets goal of being completely energy self sufficient within 20 years.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/may/22/wales-energy-efficient-plans

Stewart on Obama/Cheney smackdown. :-)

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=228041&title=american-idealogues

"At some point we have to decide that it's not productive being in anger mode all the time. "
Hear, hear Flatus!

"everybody thinks that she is jusssst so goody goody"
Wrong Solar, no one that knows me has 'ever' accused me of that.

What's so bad about empathy?
"I'VE NEVER BEEN sure why Lady Justice wore a blindfold as part of her permanent wardrobe. Yes, it's supposed to be a symbol of impartiality. But it does limit her vision a bit.

So it is that I am watching the run-up to the nomination of a new Supreme Court justice with eyes wide open. We've already had preemptive strikes against three women on the media short list. Elena Kagan, Diane Wood, and Sonia Sotomayor are getting the scary radical treatment without even getting picked.

....remember that empathy is not sympathy. It doesn't require that we take sides.

The truth is that we want judges who "get it." The myth of justice as a matter of pure objective reasoning that could be meted out by a computer is just that, a myth." http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2009/05/22/whats_so_bad_about_empathy/

Shapes of things to come:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aCNIiPBaLGcw

Obama's first judicial nominee blocked by Alfred E. (Jeff SEssions) Neuman.

Arianna taking CNN's Rick Sanchez to task for "phony equivalents" - A media "balancing act" that makes me crazy as well.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/rick-sanchez-equates-barn_b_206126.html

When it comes to issues, facts should outweigh opinion in the realm of equal time.

"...he talked about having to dispose of his dog's feces during a neighborhood walk"

craig, that was code... a metaphor for xvp drivel

(psst, typo, check the boss's "as" in 1st sentence)

Have a baby around? Ditch the hard plastic bottles - NOW!

Then give them up yourself. You'll be ahead of the eventual ban unless the "industry funded studies" stop it again.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/05/22/harvard_study_backs_bottle_concern/

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/what-does-bush-think.html#comment-229831

Jamie, between the plastic bottles, all the vaccinations they get, food additives and preservatives, genetically engineered food, and all the products that are made in China...... it's a surprise these babies don't have more problems than they do. Where to start?

Oh, and lets not forget swine flu, air pollution, contaminated water and perverts.

pogo, has anyone refuted 666's rant about the one-time cost of closing gitmo prison with a comparison of the cost of maintaining it ad infinitum?

btw, considering his concern for the taxpayers, it would be interesting to see how much he's made all these years at the public trough. even his jobs in the "private" sector were with corps that suckled the same udder that fed his non-private jobs. the aggregate must be awesome... soooeeeeey

I see Liberty University revoked the LU Democratic Club, on claimed "moral grounds". I wonder if that might impact their not for profit status?

What does Bush think?
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=Bush+thinking&fp=WJxJmyChMq8

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/what-does-bush-think.html#comment-229832

Chloe,

The more I read about all these "conveniences", I'm glad I got my children in under the wire with home made formula in glass bottles while wearing cloth diapers. :-)

I only had two in 20 months. I don't even want to think about my poor grandmother with nine in 22 years.

What does Bush think?

"Why do all these stinking political speeches keep preempting Springer?!?"

Chloe,,,,,You're perfect the way that you are,,,,was just teasing you a little,,,

Bush was thinking? Who knew?

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/what-does-bush-think.html#comment-229837

I know what you mean Jamie (but two in 20 months is a hand full too). This one keeps me busy full time, when she's with me, which is most every day. I must admit that I REALLY appreciate the disposable diapers though.... I could never get through this without them. And they do sell a lot more special pillows, seats, and entertaining 'things' for them than they did years ago.

No again Solar. :)
I've also never been accused of being anything remotely close to perfect.

harry s. truman said: "I do not understand a mind which sees a gracious beneficence in spending money to slay and maim human beings in almost unimaginable numbers and deprecates the expenditure of a smaller sum to patch up the ills of mankind."

didn't he also say something about a politician should not leave richer than what he was when he took public office? can't find exact quote but think it's in "plain speaking" by merle miller... anyone know it?

I agree with Craig's post. I snuck away from work early today to start my long, maybe rainy, weekend off.

I will have to admit that there is a aspect of GWB's personality that I really did/do like and that is the little farm boy in him. That part is dear to my heart and maybe his best legacy.

Always thought that he probably got rooked into the President job. Was told we can get you elected and you get to play with all the big toys and we'll do the rest. It didn't turn out well.

maybe "today" will show craig's garden video tomorrow morning... or better yet, it being memorial weekend and all, they should let him talk about the 94th rememberance effort.

And great...Craig is on a channel tomorrow I can get out here at owl camp. Can't wait to see my mentor on the TV again.

"I will have to admit that there is a aspect of GWB's personality that I really did/do like and that is the little farm boy in him."

As long as he stay's put on that farm, we're safe.

Hey sturg,
I left you a little snippet on the snipe hunt.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/what-does-bush-think.html#comment-229849

Carol, Maybe you should install a satellite dish out there (or is that crazy, and defeating the purpose of your getaway?)

Carol,,,,,don't fall for it

" will have to admit that there is a aspect of GWB's personality that I really did/do like and that is the little farm boy in him. That part is dear to my heart and maybe his best legacy.

Always thought that he probably got rooked into the President job. Was told we can get you elected and you get to play with all the big toys and we'll do the rest. It didn't turn out well. "

This is the dangerous part about the Republicans,,,and most of the people fall for it,,,,,we elected Reagan,,cos he was likable,,,,,and Bush 43 for the same things,,,just a shucks cowboy,,,,and look where it got us,,,,,Ma Barker Bush,,and Baker ,,picked him for the salesmanship that he showed,,all during his life,,,but never finished any of the things that he did,,,,,,as so Ma Barker Chose Cheney t baby sit baby Bush,,,,,but they are scheming right as we speak,,,,,,,lets see,,,,,Obama,,if he is in there for eight years,,,which one of the boys...can we get elected,,,,take a lot of pics,,of them,,and we will choose the next president,,,by then they will be tires of the Dems again,,,so like they say Timing is everything,,,,,,,YEA the two party system!!!

Oh,,,,I forgot who said (Jamie KGC?) that we should allow guns in the congress,,,,let them shoot themselves and have duels,,,,,now that is what I would call term limits!!

I really don't see Obama as being totally in charge of his presidency either. IMO, there are powerful people who pull the strings of a president. I think those people were afraid that Hillary would be less likely to let them pull her strings so they booted her out early. Just call me crazy.

Do you really think that Reagan was making all his decisions? He was an actor. It didn't take that much for the American people to elect someone for president. Just be a likable fellow, and I do mean fellow, a recognizable name and be someone people would like to have a beer with.

Hopefully people wised up when electing Obama.

Pat,
Just reached into the bookcase. It's 448 pages including foreword, afterword, contents and index. Any idea which page it's on?

"Maybe you should install a satellite dish out there (or is that crazy, and defeating the purpose of your getaway?)"

Yes Chloe, it would be defeating the purpose of my getaway. I have you guys to keep me informed. Do you feel like you are beating your heads agains't a brick wall cuz I'm not learning too fast?

No one's asked yet, have they, Carol, do you have electricity? :)

Rez, please share your snippet on the snipe hunt with all of us.

Made me think of an old New Yorker cartoon. There's this older couple in their bedroom. The woman in bed and the man beating the hell out of an old radiator that's not connected to anything.

Man asks woman, "Did he say how long we have to hit it before it starts getting warm?"

"Do you feel like you are beating your heads agains't a brick wall cuz I'm not learning too fast?"

Are you kidding?
In my particular case, I'm the one learning from you (as well as from others here).

Solar,
'The Book' (Alan Watts) arrived. It'll probably be a couple weeks before I start it though

Hey Carol,

Happy MD wkend. Nice, having that xtra 1 1/2 days I bet.
Dear Wife took today off too for her 4 dayer.

That's just it, I missed Sturg's abstruce point as usual. So it was kind of a note about a snipe hunt made at the tail end of a thread/new thread "snipe hunt". lol

Flatus, The only things I don't have out here are washer and dryer, cable and a good source of heat except in my big room. No regular oven/stove but smoker, Lil Smokie BBQ pit, microwave, little convection/rotiserie/steamer thingy I got on QVC. Assorted other cooking stuff too numerous to list. I can cook up a gormet meal but it is a little more work. I have to make sure that not too many things are working off the same power area or I trip the breaker.

also small coffee pot, large coffee pot, expresso maker.....get my drift. Well stocked hide away. I used to have to come out here to borrow things for my house.

"there are powerful people who pull the strings of a president"

You mean like this Carol?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d604qgmBPlo

or this ?
http://tinyurl.com/qfa5bl

Oh Rez, you got caught in the snipe hunt. Did you catch anything? Maybe not enough pickle relish.

Yeap Chloe, you got it. Think I'm on to anything there?

patd

Harry Truman said a lot of really good things:

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/h/harry_s_truman.html

Chloe

That's great,,,,,The first time that I read it,,,I sorta understood it,,,,the 2nd time,,that I read it,,,more of it made sense,,,and more that I liked it,,,like a good movie,,,that you missed some parts,,,,the third time,,,,is when I felt it,,,and want to go back to feeling,,what that book inspires to feel,,,and very few do,,,I believe,,,so it is not just about reading it,,,,it made me,,think and feel what it is saying,,,for a little while....L & L is what it does made me feel...sorry if too much.

Carol,,,,ya snubbing me?

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/what-does-bush-think.html#comment-229864

I could get by with a microwave, fridge, toaster and heating and cooling of some type. (As the washer and dryer are only a few minutes away, as in your case) The laptop must have internet though, no matter where I go.

And you know what Rez? It is just too kool to have you on this ship with us son.

Carol, Sounds purrfect!

after taking care of my parents this morning..... working my ass off this afternoon.... I decide to come out of my studio a little early and start my long weekend with a relaxing look at this here blog and what do I see when I click on it..... Bush's stupid smirking face.....

goddamn you Craig.... I'll get even someday...... :0) :0)

W and dog feces.... there's got to be a metaphor in there somewhere.....

Solar, I've read 'somewhat' similar books, and like things to be a little off center, so I'm sure I'll like it

Not stubbing you Solar. I asked where you were earlier. I missed ya.

I'm sure George is having some trouble cleaning up all the poop RR. I don't think he ever will.

"Think I'm on to anything there?"

I thought that even before the election.

One of the happiest places Stinky and I lived was with no electricity, a bucket and a well, an outdoor privy, kerosene lanterns, no car, no road, lots of stars, a battery radio, a big garden and nice neighbors.

Chloe, I'd give up everything else before I'd give up the Internet. I have one of those thingies you plug into the side of the laptop. I can take this baby out in the boat if need be.

When my last laptop said "going down", I was at Best Buy in 10 minutes.

and I have one entire section of the camp for fishing stuff which I plan on expanding tomorrow with the help of the $50 Wally World gift card I won Tuesday.

Carol

The Flavor Wave Oven,,is what I do a lot of my cooking,,it has a grill that you place what you want to eat on,,and it comes out just like BBQ,,,,I have cooked whole turkeys on it,,,and it is great for thing straight from the freezer,,,perfect for a one or two people living,,,,they have a new version out now,,,that I will get,,,but this one that Ive had for about three years is great.,,,forgot,,,has a little dome that swivel into place over the grill,,,and very easy to clean. Oh and good for "Hot Tamles" haha

You were a lot younger then huh, Flatus, and how long did that experience last?

"When my last laptop said "going down", I was at Best Buy in 10 minutes. "

LOL, I remember that Carol.
I'm the same way. I have the sprint wireless for whenever I leave the house. No way I'm 'ever' going to be caught without a computer

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/what-does-bush-think.html#comment-229879

Yeah Flatus, but it bet you would want to that again, would you?

Is that how you get yoursef heated up Mr. hot Tamale?

glad everyone is starting this weekend early....
tomorrow Rick and I are going to a 60th birthday barbecue of a good friend....
can't wait.... think I'll drink me some wine and get buzzed....

and just spend some time relaxing with my book.....
I'm reading Dennis LeHane's latest tome "The Given Day"..... it's 700 pages....
and 400 pages into it... it's really good....

It's the only way to keep up with you guys Chloe. I wish I could do it on my cell phone on the way to and from work but then I would probably be wiped out by some ditch somewhere.

Flatus, I'm waiting for your answer. Is Stinky still up for roughing it??

I'll be honest. Neither of us will ever rough it again unless the country melts down. If that's the case, I have a tent and a couple of sleeping bags in a closet. Just in case.

But, when you're young and in love, anything is just right.

Good line:

"The inauguration of Barack Obama has simply not marked a dramatic shift in the substance of American anti-terror policy. It has marked a shift in the public credibility of that policy."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/22/opinion/22brooks.html?em

yeah, yeah, dumya picks up a dog turd and laughs while he watches as Obama has to try and perform the political equivalent of cleaning the Aegean stables without the benefit of the Alpheus and Peneus Rivers to clear out the crap - and lord knows he can't clean anything out with the Potomac.

Flatus....
Rick and I used to go camping quite a bit when we were newly married .... he was a librarian then and had lots of time off.... and of course we didn't have any money....

now I tell him..... if it doesn't have a hot tub.... I ain't going..... :0)

"It's the only way to keep up with you guys"

That's what's nice about this place, you can catch up any time of the day or night.

If I have a minute or two I sneak a lurk at work Chloe.

It's an addiction Chloe, without one of those 1-800 numbers to help you get over it.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/what-does-bush-think.html#comment-229897

I sometimes wonder if it's like one of those soap operas were to me when I was young..... but this is so much more interesting, as well as interactive.

warren, being the lawyer you are, you know that it doesn't take a lot to change that stuff that is and rejected as heinous (Love that word, especially the way it was pronounced by the prosecutor in My Cousin Vinny - High-Anus) to accepted asa reasonable. IMHO, that is what's happening - throw in a little oversight and due process, speak about things as if you actually believe what you're saying, articulate a goal that people believe you have, and voila, the people will buy it. I think that the oversight and due process add ons make all the difference if they occur, but that's just me.

And now (drumroll here) I am leaving to go get the holiday weekend started by cutting the grass then I'm following Renee's lead and getting a bit buzzed on wine. Everyone have a great weekend, and remember those who fought and died.

"Is that how you get yoursef heated up Mr. hot Tamale?"

No,,,I come here for that,,,,,with all of the Hot Tamale gals,,,,,and then I call out for Judy,,,,,,,and if she doesn't answer,,,,then I call out real loud,,,,,JUDYYYY,,,,,and if she Stillll doesn't answer,,,,I simply say,,,,,,,,BAby,,,,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmjmp0XEUxA&feature=related#

and we don't get to have you around Pogo after you are buzzed?? What a rip off. I, for one, would like to visit with you when you let your hair down.

Thanks for that dance Solar, sir.

uh oh.... looks like I be corrupting pogo....

honestly Officer Obie.... I'm compleeeeetely innocent....

And those who fly flags on Memorial Day, it's half-staff until noon and then all the way to the top for the rest of the day. Have a reflective Memorial Day. Yeah, I may have a glass of wine, too.

and Warren, it is good that you point out that we credit Obama with all the improvements in the state of affairs in this counry when many of them started before he ever got into office but no one noticed. Just keeping them honest, huh guy?

ct:

I have to put my pom-poms down every once and awhile (right ; )

(But Obama does get a lot of credit for the credibility aspect. Which comes with all of those "horrible" and "weak" things he does in his relations with other world learders . . . like listening and being respectful.)

and Warren, You ever get a buzz on or do you take your role here of keeping this place legit too serious?

Hah! if you only knew...

(but the short answer to your question is: "Yes!")

Have a good weekend everyone!! I am out.

And a happy memorial day to everyone who keeps us proud and safe - and all their families as well.

"do you take your role here"

Do you see us as having roles here Carol?

Carol, I ask that in a very friendly way. I should have put a smile. :)

The most totally honest picture I've seen about those of us who went to Vietnam in 1965 and 1966 is 'We Were Soldiers Once… And Young'.

Any time( for an owl camp fire gal,,,got any cookies,,hehe) but ya doesn't have to call me sir??

I will be getting a little buzz on myself,,,,,there are a few friends to remember.,,,,,,but you Carol,,,,,stay away from that bottle,,,,,and stairs,,,,,and only slow dancing,,,for you,,no fast movements,,,unless you have too,,,is why I played that oldie but goodie for you,,,,,maybe Sea will have a little time for us after M D?

Flatus, it's OK to put the flag up today? I just put it out for all the river folk to see. I look forward to being able to put it out with my little flag tinsel.

Don't we all play different roles in life Chloe. Yes I do see each of you as playing multiple roles here.

and Chloe, one of your roles here is to always make people feel welcome here by making them feel all warm and fuzzy.

Of course it's alright Carol.

and Chloe, don't feel pressured to always have to be nice. You are allowed your A-hole moments if you want.

And if a person has an honest statement to make, it's even OK to fly it upside down.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/what-does-bush-think.html#comment-229917

Thanks Carol, that exactly what I was going for. They say those roles we play are established pretty young in life, partly because of where we fall in line with our families.

You, Carol, are the most interesting person. I think it's because you are so honest, and the way you look at things straight on. Kinda like Craig... I always call him the 'tell it like it is guy'. Good or bad, you're gonna get the truth.

Carol, Maybe it's because of all the BS you must hear on your job on a fairly regular basis. You must have to work hard to get to the truth. (?)

Flatus, our senior veteran representative along with many other roles, I will remember to put my flag at half staff Monday morning.

"You are allowed your A-hole moments if you want. "

Oohhh, believe me, I have more than my share.

Don't have to work that hard Chloe cuz I can read them lying eyes. I look deep into them.

"it's even OK to fly it upside down."

Is that anything like a backwards compliment?

"I can read them lying eyes."

Yeah, but that takes a lot of practice. Plus a willingness to call them on it. That can be a gamble, right?

Thanks Chloe, I do have a hard time lying cuz it is beaming on my forehead in neon when I try. I remember the time I had to get a half of a little bottle of cheap tequilla though the Mexican border back into the US. My dumb friends made me and I was driving. I was fighting with those two drunks up until the guy came up to the window.

I had sweat pouring down my face when I told that guy I had nothing to declare. He kept asking, "are you sure?" I thought I was a goner but he ended up letting me back in. I still feel quilty.

"I still feel quilty. "

LMAO!
Now, there's a big difference in us. I think a 'little' lie can be a 'lot' of fun, and I can convince myself that I'm telling the truth ahead of time, so it comes off kinda naturally (sometimes) :)

and I want to sincerely thank all your guys here and those lurking who gave service to our country. We all have a lot of respect and appreciation for your and your families sacrifice.

and by guys, I mean gals also.

Well said.

Hey Chloe, it wouldn't be that much fun in a Mexican jail.

"it wouldn't be that much fun in a Mexican jail. "

No, but getting away with the misdeed would. :)

... gotta go do my chores, hungry critters and all.

Carol, One last thing.
If you're ever in a situation, where you absolutely have to tell a little fib (to make things right all around), just convince yourself you're in the right ahead of time and that you have nothing to be ashamed of. If you're not wrong in your own head, then you're not wrong period. After all, you can tell the difference in right and wrong.

People in Mexico can't get a break,,,a 7.5 quake hit 90 miles away from Mexico city,,,still kinda close?

and I hear the sounds of happy people outside. I almost am on an island alone during the week. It's real quite because I only have a neighbor on one side who lives out here, he's quiet, and the rest of the camps are empty for a ways on both sides.

It will probably be quite busy and crowded weekend. Some of you make the sacrifice and the rest of us get an extra day off. It's not really fair.

Chloe,,,Carol,,,,We all have many diff roles to play,,,things change all of the t ime,,,we all are a little diff when in front of our sons and daughters,,,our bosses,,our workers,,,and we all tell little white lies every day,,,,but what is never allowable is to be a liar,,,an out and out one ,,,,and a hypocrite,,,that's the one thing that I won't tolerate,,,some of the high and mighty forget these simple rules that should set them apart,,,but they don't,,,and that is what is sad to me,,,all of the greedy hypocritical liars,,,on both party's,,that's the last two party comment for a while from me.

Solar, I'm peeking back in (and shouldn't be, there's that addiction). I HATE liars too. I may have given the wrong impression, between lies and a little fib. I could never present myself as something I'm not, and resent it when people do. Truth is everything, and without it, we're frauds.

Well put, Solar. Glad you said it

We already know what you mean Chloe. No need to explain. We understand. You don't have any serious lying in ya girl.

Now on the other hand, Solar may have had the occasion for a windy or two especially when he is trying to woo the ladies. Huh big guy?

I camped rough in my youth. Slept out in my clothes, lying on a rag to keep warm, and another rag to keep the bugs and mosquitoes off. Tents were reserved for rainy weather.

The last time I camped out was in an event designed to us show normies what it is like to live homeless in MN during the winter. We wrapped refridgerator boxes with plastic bags & duct tape, and then crawled inside. It snowed that night and the next morning. A little below zero Fahrenheit. I was in my fifties by them and sleeping on the ground wasn't so much fun anymore. Only the Lord knows how the boys got through those horrid weeks during the Battle of the Bulge, and just afterwards during our hot pursuit. No wonder Napoleon left with a half million men when he invaded russia, but only led 20,000 back again.

No more Mr. Tough Guy for this feeble old geezer, that's the truth.

Now why exactly did you need to know how it felt to live homeless XR? I think we all know that would suck.

Mistake alert !

That is supposed to read, "event intended to show us normies,what it is like...."

Will I never learn ???

XR if you ignore all my many mistakes, I will ignore your few. I didn't even notice in the first place. I don't think this is English class, is it? If it is I gotta go.

or you can mark them up with red ink and I will correct them but to correct them would take all day.

Thanks for your generosity, ct.

I gotta go, too - to fire up the grill so I
can feed Sweetie. 'Bye for now.

so, have y'all seen this story? Mancow (conservative radio guy) volunteered to be waterboarded to show it is no big deal. Average time someone lasts is 14 seconds. He lasted only 6 seconds. Now he is saying that it is torture. Go figure.

http://tinyurl.com/qx2shf

Carol

"Now on the other hand, Solar may have had the occasion for a windy or two especially when he is trying to woo the ladies. Huh big guy?"

believe it or not,never lied to the gals,I was,,always a happy type of guy,,and a loner,,dated a lot,,but never had the need to lie to get a date,,yes or no was good enough for me,,,,the bs,,was for the desperate???but my little bit of wind is from the Golf Course,,,I used to golf three four times a week ,,when I was in advertising with my clients, and got pretty good,,sometimes as low as 85,,or 87,,,,but I know that it should have been,,,,88,,,or 92,,,and the bs it expected,,,but what I did not like,,is that I did let one of my clients beat me,,,,and that is against anything that I believed in,,,,and tought my nephews and son....there's not a lier in the whole bunch,,,just a little bs,,ing that we all do HA

One of the reason that I was gone for a few day's,,,almost a week,,,I was really really pissed off,,,,and I never talk to anyone that I care for when Im in that mood,,,I used to got to a cpl of bars that ,,,that type of feelings could be taken care of,,,,,blow off some steam,,,sorta speak,,( many many years ago).

We found out,,,One of my nephews,,,,that the reason that his refi,,on his house was not,made ,,,canceled,,was that an attorney for the place that was doing the underwriting,,embezzled 2 mil,,,,and we were not told of it,,,,meanwhile I went to court and filed an emergency stay on his(wit h him) behalf,,and got the sheriffs sale postponed for 60 day's,,,this should give him enough time to get it done.....The law is looking for that lawyer that is out of the country,,,,,,he must have had an 8 bathroom room house,,and all of the other things that one doesn't need...must have felt very confined by it all..Greedy Bastard!!!

Carol,,,,,,that is what makes your camp so amazingly wonderful to me,,,I would love to have one,,,but no where in the states,,,,,somewhere ,,,,,,where no one else has been,,,,had my chance,,,but decided not too,,next time for sure,,,I helped build 2 houses on the mountains in Mexico,,,near Japala,,,and it was 70 ish all year round,,,should have stayed in one of the caves that were there,,,

Oh and you can stop any minute now,,,that is if your not finished teasing me,,,,,thats my ROLE here you know,,,,,,,now Wher is tha Fine Sea Women>???

And Sturge, you had to ax this mornin. "...machine?, AC?...." Lucky I had already left for work. I will share my Rice Farming 101 story with you when the evening shift gets on.

""it's even OK to fly it upside down."

Is that anything like a backwards compliment?"

No, Chloe, it was just a way of saying if someone is compelled to express upset at our situation, flying the flag upside down is a recognized distress signal.

Solar, Sea is probably out, along with the Jamester, doing something noble while we are here jabber jawing.

Who Knew?

Milk is a gateway to bourbon

http://rawstory.com/blog/2009/05/milk-is-a-gateway-drug-to-bourbon/

one for the ladies,,,,,,,How to install a husband,,,

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· Romance 9.5 and
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· NFL 3.0 and
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Also Conversation 8.0 no longer runs, and Housecleaning 2. 6 simply crashes the system.
· Please note that I have tried running Nagging 5.3 to fix these problems, but to no avail.
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AND REPLY WAS
DEAR DESPERATE ,
First, keep in mind,
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· Husband 1.0 is an operating system.
Please enter command: ithoughtyoulovedme.html and try to download Tears 6.2 and do not forget to install the Guilt 3.0 update.
· If that application works as designed , Husband 1.0 should then automatically run the applications Jewelry 2.0 and Flowers 3.5.
However, remember, overuse of the above application can cause Husband 1.0 to default to Grumpy Silence 2.5 , Happy Hour 7.0 or Beer 6.1 .
· Please note that Beer 6. 1 is a very bad program that will download the Snoring Loudly Beta.
Whatever you do, DO NOT under any circumstances install Mother-In-Law 1.0 (it runs a virus in the background that will eventually seize control of all your system resources.)
In addition, please do not attempt to reinstall the Boyfriend 5.0 -program These are unsupported applications and will crash Husband 1.0 .
In summary, Husband 1.0 is a great program, but it does have limited memory and cannot learn new applications quickly. You might consider buying additional software to improve memory and performance. We recommend
· Cooking 3.0 and
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Tech Support

XR, in the winter of '80, Stinky and I were sent to Germany from England. We took our Jaguar over to Zeebrugge on the Ferry then drove down the autobahn to Ramstein. I attended a week of meeting after which we drove up through Luxembourg on the road through the Ardennes that bisects the Battle of the Bulge terrain.

It was on a sub-freezing day and their were clouds of frost in the air. It was incredibly creepy. I could just imagine the panzers crosing into view and the wailing of the wounded and dying.

I hate to rub it in but it is so wonderful to be able to sit here on my couch and watch the ambiance of the river change from moment to moment.

A view from the couch:

http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu286/cithorn/100_0190.jpg

There are times when hysterical laughter is the only possible response:

Twitter from Newt:

My two op-eds from today dealing with the rising tide against arrogant, corrupt elites http://dwarfurl.com/3f62dnewtgingrichMy two op-eds

That was a great one Solar. Have to save that one. No wonder I never got past Boyfriend 5.0.

Link didn't work Jamie.

Carol

Nice pic,,,I saved it,,,,is that where we danced by the light of the moon,,,and all that? going to alternate it on my screen,,if it is,,,if not get that one for me.,,here is my all time favorite

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/4012/bang.png

Kind of a complex picture Solar. You couldn't find just a starry night with a full moon.

Here is that Newt link. Sorry I left without checking the previous one.

http://newt.org/tabid/102/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/4247/A-rising-tide-against-arrogant-corrupt-elites.aspx

Ping...

In regards to your comment below.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/what-does-bush-think.html#comment-229798

The Presidents first and most important job is not the safety of the country.

His first and primary job is to {I will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States." }.

Yes his job also includes protecting the country and its citizens, but his most important job is to ensure that the Constitution is never desecrated or set aside.

There is never any reason for us to surrender our values or Constitution for safety.

Our forefathers shed their blood and died for the freedoms we have and the rights we have in the Constitution. We will not give up these rights to be secure. We will not allow ourselves to turned into a third world country as the Republicans want to take us.

And if no other road leads to living by our Constitution, then we will take our country and Constitution back.

Have a good day.

A Poem

T'is like a book, I think, this bloomin' world
Which we can read and care for just so long,
But presently we feel that we will die
Unless we get the page we're reading done
And turn the page, likely not so good
But what we're after is to turn them all.

This is the poem I promised yesterday. I think the author is Kipling but am not sure. This is my secret to getting a new perspective and/or to shake myself awake when I seem to be giving in to inertia -a real danger for me. It has also helped in some bad times -I think its message is calming

I hope you like it - Ivy mentioned last night that it was time for a poetry day or so. Anyone else ready?

I am SO confused - I didn't realize it's coming up on Memorial Day!

Thank you from the bottom of my heart to all you who have taken time from your own lives to go into battle for us, experiencing things and doing things you weren't made for. I am in awe of your courage and sacrifice.

You know I've been talking about the big splash I have heard when I go out to walk the Magster at night. I hear it almost every night. I turn on the porch light and there is a big kersplash like something big hits the water. What's weird is I see no ripples or water movement. Not great light to see by but enough.

One neighbor mentioned that they had some beavers down the way so I felt better knowing it was something not too threatening.

Well this morning I noticed that one of the large trees in my other neighbors yards, right at the water's edge had a good bit of bark gnawed off. Area of about 4 feet by about 3 feet. Tree is about 2 feet in diameter. I wonder how big that beaver is?? I may have a super beaver. Those neighbors just came out to have a beer on their porch, they hardly ever come, and they noticed the missing bark.

You would think a beaver would have selected a smaller tree. With that tree the beaver could build Hoover Dam. I just used a whole bottle of Tabasco sauce on that gnawed off area to see if that deters that beaver. I need to get a pic of that creature. The tree is about 3 stories tall. It could come down on my camp.

I just told my neighbors that I had people, smart people, who if anyone could, could figure out what to do about this problem. OK so here's the evidence. Rez, do you have any beaver experience?

http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu286/cithorn/100_0191.jpg

Wonder what else that beaver might not like? Mayb e wrapping foil around the chewed area? garlic? Also, wonder what his design plans are? your river? hmmmm

chicken wire? cardboard soaked in something?

I'm glad Bush is keeping his trap shut.

Very good Bethy. I told them the chicken wire idea. Sounds good to me. I guess they aren't eating my trees because I keep scaring them off.

That beaver has a big job if he plans on daming off the entire river.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/what-does-bush-think.html#comment-229961

Try this one then,,,nice and simple dancing,,,watch your hip now!
that last pic,big ,,bite out of that tree,,,,,looks like something out of Lake Placid?? how big are those beavers,,,30 ft long??

http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bc026thelastdanceposterx.jpg

and the last pic for,,,, Chloe,,,,,this is ,,if I were there,,,I would never leave,,,,until this man,,,no Human animal was there,,,in Peru,,,I think,,shares my screen with the big bang one,,,If you stretch it out on the screen,,,it will look a lot better,,you can see the whole mountain tops lot better,,then discard,,,Tony lets go here,,this will get the cardio work out done Huh?

http://img36.imageshack.us/my.php?image=br45566.jpg

...a cute story
"We sat motionless in the river's darkness while nearly a dozen beaver displayed vengeful reminders for our intrusion. All around us they bobbed and swam in circles and continued to slap the water in anger and alarm to their fellow mates. We literally floated amongst this ambush for at least 10 minutes in total amazement.

Today, I still remember the look on Brett's face - jaw dropped, a wide-eyed boy. With equal amazement I'm sure I caught a few black flies that night as my mouth hung open in astonishment.

The moral of that story was...NEVER CRASH A BEAVER BASH! "
http://www.paddling.net/articles/story35.html

.... this product 'claims' to work (?)
PRODUCT NAME: 4-The-Birds Liquid treatment.
"TARGET ANIMALS: Several kinds although it works
great at stopping beaver from chewing desirable trees."
http://www.bugspray.com/catalog/products/page564.html

Nice picture Solar

Thanks guys for the quick response. I think they will try the chicken wire only because they can get it faster. The 4 the Birds would take too long and that tree would be on someones place by then.

Carol - that post of Chloe's seems to be the right track.
If not, I would enjoy the chance to think of even more diabolical tricks. How 'bout waterboarding? nah -they'd bite.

I'm very sympathetic to the plight of anmials we are pushinjg aside, but aren't there alot of other trees they could pick?

They might not be able to dam up the river but couldn't theyput some pretty big and annoying logs in the water?

Wudooinoabowtbeevers????????????nuttin'

my sister got the news that her kitty has lymphphoma -
poor tiger lily has been very lethargic for a while and is down to 5 pounds. My sister takes these things very badly.

Maybe I found the extinct Giant beaver.

"The North American Giant beaver (Castoroides ohioensis) was one of the largest rodents that ever evolved. About the size of a small American Black Bear, it disappeared along with other large mammals in the Holocene extinction event, which began about 13,000 years ago." Wikipedia

Oh how sad about the kitty Bethy. Hey I'm taking it hard myself and I didn't even know the kitty.

They are going to use your idea Bethy of the chicken wire. Easier and faster to get. I didn't mention that I was going for my own chicken wire tomorrow to use to protect my second corn planting. Rain is expected off and on all weekend due to that disturbance over Florida.

Liked the beaver story Chloe.

and good thing Jamie I don't drink milk, except in my coffee. I'd probably be a drunk if I did. I didn't know the dangers.

CRAIG., the first sentence needs and "h" for "has" otherwise you sound cockney.

I'm glad Bush's holding to the tradition of STFU. I don't want to hear from him, and I don't care what he thinks.

I wish Cheney would go away too.

tt

Well, Carol - hope the chicken wire works. Thon varmints might be able to chew thru it - wonder re barbed wire, altho I think it's pretty nasty. Good luck.

Gonna git me some champers and got to niece's for dinner with Vera' s daughter from out of town - four darlin' liddle boys. Hope they don't pick of my toe nail polish the way they did before!

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/what-does-bush-think.html#comment-229964

Bethy --

Been waiting almost 24 hours for your poem to appear. I was about to type, "Yo Bethy, where dat poem??" Hope it wasn't too difficult to pound it out with your poor paw.

That is the TrailMix Poem!! It says exactly my sentiments when hubs is walking away with my laptop late at night, and I'm calling after him, "Hey, I was still using that...!"

Carol and Bethy,
Chicken wire may work.... it works with our horses Once they start on a tree's bark, chicken wire is all that stops them. You may have to wrap it around two or three times.

Bil Mahar interview M.I.A. about Sri Lanka on Real Time. Here is a recent news article for background

http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0521/p06s12-woeu.html

Bethy,

The poem is "Sestina of the Tramp-Royal"
by Rudyard Kipling

Here is a copy of the whole poem:

http://www.poetryfoundation.org/archive/poem.html?id=176147

Like that poem Jamie but had a little trouble reading through it. I think I figured it out and I think my sis would like it. She has never let grass grow under her feet. I think we counted that she has moved over 37 times in her life. We counted a couple of years back so we need to add a few to that number.

I am on giant beaver stalking duty tonight. I want that great pic for C-bobs blog. If it can't be big swamp foot I will settle for the extinct giant beaver.

ct

I probably have your sister beat and loved the poem because of a gypsy life - Years ago whenever I walked into one club, the piano player would move into either "It's Just The Gypsy In My Soul" or "Anyplace I Hang My Hat Is Home".

Is the beaver hunt because of the big splash the other night?

I had to look up what is a sestina? Now I know...not that I could do it...I would be still be a dumb bunny if not for this site...

Carol,

Only beavers I know go to Oregon State.

Sounds like a strange creature lurking there! Watch this one (trailer below) and sleep tight. I'm having a couple cool ones and watching baseball. :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iayT-opQkls&feature=related

Before I miss my chance to comment on topic, I can't help but wonder the outcome if George Bush had appealed to his earthly father for guidance instead of that "higher father," the destructively obsessive Darth Dick Sidious. Perhaps the former President's seeming humility and silence means his ears are finally tuned in the right direction.

Yes Jamie. Did you see the damage to the neighbors tree. I posted a pic earlier. I also watched some of the youtube videos about the beaver slap. What I heard was much, much louder. I was kidding about the giant beaver but I am starting to think it could be.

How many moves have you made Jamie? Ever counted?

Carol,

Sort of counted. 21 schools before the age of 17 and never lived in the same town two years in a row and often had multiple houses in a year, though I did go back to one every couple of years. The longest I've ever been in one place was after my daughter was born and we bought a house. That was seven years until the divorce in 1971. From then to now, It would be guessing without a whole lot of thinking, but I'm sure the total moves in 65 years has to be over 40.

I went back and looked at that poor tree. Just how big are the rodents up your way?

Jamie I think you got my sister beat. She did the majority of her moving after she left home.

I'm not sure how big my rodent is out there but I'm thinking pretty big. I finally figured out what my recurrent splash noise at night was. It's a beaver. The sound would resemble a large person doing a canon ball into water. If that is a beaver slap, it's a big un.

Then I saw that tree damage this morning..... I tried to help my neighbor out by putting some Tabisco, a Louisiana hot sauce, on the tree. Just a temporary fix until they can get some chicken wire. Don't want that tree coming down. It's too close to my camp and it's at least 3 stories high.

If you look at the cute cuddley beavers, on youtube, chewing on their little sticks and small trees and then look at the gnawing on that big tree you have to think woah!

" ............ he talked about having to dispose of his dog's feces during a neighborhood walk."

I got 5 bucks sez Bush screwed that job up.

the crabs fested but the caravan moved on........

the crabs gathered in concert under the mooney chestnut tree and the rolling wagons sloughed thru the ancient pluff mud......

for we were unable to celebrate our dead poet friend......so we sank iron rods into the fire in order to curve the red glowing worms into shapes which would leave almost incroyable the smoking black lines left on the wood.......................

"A view from the couch:

http://i656.photobucket.com/albums/uu286/cithorn/100_0190.jpg

Carol! That's wonderful!!!!!

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/what-does-bush-think.html#comment-229856

flatus, i remember how sad it was to reach that last page. hst, thru his conversations in the book, by that time had become such a great friend that i didn't want to have to say goodbye.

jamie, thanks fo the quote list.

ct, beautiful getaway. and remind your friends to adjust the chicken wire every so often to accomodate the growing tree girth.... don't want to kill it by girdling, otherwise they might as well let the beavers do their thing.

Dang I slept late. Well it is because I was up late trying to catch a look at the giant beaver. Ya'll think that tree is the work of just a regular old beaver?

OK Pat and Patsi, where did you go?

Sturge? Flatus? Anyone home? Didn't get any advice from you two? This is my think tank don't ya know? Thank means ya must think and then share. I have my coffee and everything.

Oops I mean that means not thank means. XR is gonna get me. I haven't actually drank the coffee yet.

ct, no monster super beaver, just two very regular hard-workers. that's probably where the expression eager beavers come from. they have a river home to build just like yours.

Am I snipe hunting again? I know Craig is going to figure out a way to leave me in a room all alone so I don't disturb the serious thought around here.

am not sure about the number. take a close look at the tooth marks. are there two or more distinct patterns?

Thanks Pat. I was getting worried that the rapture came and I was the only one left.

http://fohn.net/beaver-pictures-facts/

I couldn't really see any distinct teeth marks. The bark in laying down at the bottom of where it is missing. I thought they were supposed to eat it.

I checked this morning and no more damage. Maybe the Tabasco sauce worked. I hope the neighbors come out and do something because I am not giving up any more hot sauce.

"A colony consists of a cluster of lodges, each occupied by a family. The family consists of a male and female and their last two litters, a total of approximately 18 animals. [24] [25] One family of beavers may need half a mile of river habitat. [26] Although beavers are considered social animals and form monogamous bonds, they work independently and have little actual contact with each other. [27]"
[from link above]

Pat that sound that was scaring me was those beavers. When I listened to some examples on youtube, it wasn't as loud as what I heard. I was hearing the noise almost every night around 10p when I went out to walk the dog.

and if they are looking to build a dam that crosses the entire river we're all in trouble out here. They have a good start with that tree. Sometimes life gets a little too interesting out here. God, I'm cool, I am having enough fun.

Carol, certainly doesn't sound like a Louisiana beaver; the hot sauce would have just egged them on.

Who 'owns' your river? Are there any small feeder streams close to your camp (what a marvelous overlook you have!!)?

I ask the questions because beaver dams often require dynamiting to take them apart. Perhaps the authorities would be interested in what's happening. An ounce of prevention, etc.

If the critters are thwarted on one tree, seems reasonable that they'd try another in the same area.

flatus, you probably have already seen this, but here's an ap sk ex-pres story just in case you haven't

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iUtbykbGrMTeo_yujVz7OXv0rgAwD98BOMPG5

God owns the river Flatus. There are feeder streams everywhere but not right in this area. This is a wide area in the river. Big barges come thru here on their way to a crude oil and asphalt plant a short way up the river.

Today show's on. Waiting for Craig.

ct, here's something on beaver damage control. don't know whether it tells how to save a scarred tree, but does give preventive solutions.
http://www.wildlifedamagecontrol.net/beaverdamagesolutions.php

btw, those barges with oil and asphalt do much more damage to your river than the beaves

I don't intend on hurting those beavers Pat, just redirecting their work to somewhere else.

Boy Craig, you had to do some fast talking.

also from that wildlife damage control link:
"Predator Introduction
One viewer wondered if introducing alligators to a particular area would reduce his beaver problem. While such a scheme may indeed work, WDC is not aware of it ever being tried. There are, however, a number of problems with such a technique. 1. It is probably illegal to introduce new species to an area without special permission. 2. Introducing a new species to an area can wreck the ecological stasis of the area causing more problems than it solves. 3. It is unnecessary as beaver are a valuable resource and trappers can be found to trap them or workers can be trained (see our Store for training information) 4. According to Arlo Kane, a Florida biologists, "Beavers and alligators coexist just fine. Some of the best alligator habitats are beaver ponds. The biggest problem with using alligators to control beavers is that you create a bigger problem than you started with. An alligator big enough to handle a beaver would be big enough to be a danger to the public. Because beavers are generally able to avoid be eaten by an alligator you now have two nuisance problems instead of one."

above post was not meant to suggest that you would bring in a gator to get rid of the beave.... just tho't it was funny that someone would consider such a thing and ask about its efficacy.

darn it, missed craig on today..... what did he say?

Pat, we already have gators out here. They are more likely to hang out just around the corner but I have seen them in the main river here. Saw a few last year from my couch view. Not much goes by without me catching it. One eye on the computer screen and the other on the river.

Craig was talking so fast that my brain is still trying to analyze it.

flatus, re sk expres, is it likely that someone else may have left the "sucide" note and pushed him off the mtn in order to divert prosecution of the rest of the family? tho't his reputation was true blue anti-corrupt. not so?

ct, maybe our gracious host will link us to a replay so that we may parse his words over and over like they do on cable news.

New Orleans has the first tropical depression of the year hanging over it. It will also pellet us with showers this weekend.

Has anyone been following that Huckaby case? How bizarre is that? What is going on with women these days?

We are getting in more women accused of doing vicious things to children also.

No, Pat, he did the 'right' thing according to traditional values.

Craig, I'm confused by your headline. I think you made a mistake in punctuation. It should read:

What? Does Bush Think?

Say what you like about Wikipedia. They are fast! Natalie Cole's sister, Carol, passed away less than 24 hours ago, and the Nat King Cole bio has already been updated.

Remember the "old" days when you had to wait for as many as two annual editions before info entered into an encyclopedia depending on where they were in the editing and printing cycle?

What awful timing it was for Natalie Jamie. I wonder if she visited Natalie on her way up to say good bye.

I'm sure Larry King will find out.

"God owns the river Flatus. There are feeder streams everywhere but not right in this area. This is a wide area in the river. Big barges come thru here on their way to a crude oil and asphalt plant a short way up the river. "

Well, as you're praying for Her intervention, it may be that your river is considered a navigable waterway under the control of the Corps of Engineers.

I have no idea at all if they are interested now, but at some point they surely will be. Just don't want that point occurring when peoples' dwellings are being flooded by rapidly rising waters.

CJ, have you had experiences such as CT's with beavers attacking tree?

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/what-does-bush-think.html#comment-230018

Don't worry Carol. As I keep telling my born again cousin, I plan to get lost in translation.

Plus given some of the biographies around here, I doubt we will be alone.

Flatus,
I have not. But I don't live in the homeland.

Joe, where in the homeland did you come from? I seem to remember you are now in DC?

The couple who received millions by mistake are on the run? What a dumb mistake for the bank. Can they be prosecuted when they were given the money by the bank? Might not have too many on the jury who are sympathetic to the bank these days.

2010 olympic aspiration

http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/05/22/2010_olympics_torch_looks_like_marijuana_joint

If memory serves me right Pat, I don't think that picture resembles any joint I remember ever seeing unless they have gone high tech with their joints these days.

Well it is time for me to go get some things accomplished other than dominating this site with my trivia. I am getting a telepathic message from somewhere that I have surpassed my word limit here lately. You guys can always feel free to write STFU. I'll only cry for a little while. Don't worry.

Carol,,,

vers,,,,but if they install the chicken wire,,,if they fasten it to the tree with Nails,,,,this too will hurt the tree,,,,cut up some of the ends with wire cutters so there is enough length to use fr wrapping around the next square of the wire,,,,hope that helped a little.

Ivy,,,Renee,,,,today on C-span book tv at 11:15 am

Peterson Field Guide to Birds of North America
Authors: Lee Allen Peterson; Roger Tory Peterson

http://www.booktv.org/program.aspx?ProgramId=9814&SectionName=&PlayMedia=No

other stuff....Sat. at 2:15,,,,,,,History

Nazi Nexus: America's Corporate Connections to Hitler's Holocaust

Patsi,,,,,Sunday at 9 pm,,and again on Mon. at 12 am

After Words: A Jury of Her Peers: American Women Writers from Anne Bradstreet to Annie Proulx
Author: Edwin Black

Some of my post was eaten by your beaver,,,,that should have said,,that I don't have any advise to give you about your beavers,,,but ,,,look out for the tree

NEW THREAD.. http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/craig-on-today-show-the-prehol.html