Jimmy Hoffa and Me

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DETROIT -- While in Bloomfield Township, MI, on Tuesday to give a speech and sign books, I learned that the site of the event is the restaurant building where famed Teamster leader Jimmy Hoffa vanished on July 30, 1975. Of course, I fired up my cell phone video to record my presence in this legendary spot. And who walks up? The man who might just know more than anybody about the bizarre facts surrounding this ongoing mystery -- former Detroit News columnist Norm Sinclair,who graciously agreed to give Trail Mix a quick video tour of the particulars . . .

Sinclair tells me that the FBI was on the verge of a breakthrough in the case until the 9/11 terrorist attacks in 2001 diverted their resources. This great journalist is still on the case, folks -- if he gets his way, someday we'll get the rest of the story.

More short clips from my interesting stroll with Sinclair

 

    Comments

  1. Too Hoo to Woo...

    Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 12:04 AM

  2. So Hoffa sleeps with the fishes...?

    Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 12:08 AM

  3. Thanks for the history walk down memory lane. Hoffa's disappearance was the great mystery of the latter half of the 20th century.
    Reuther and Hoffa...champions of the working man.

    Posted by: DexterJohnson Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 12:13 AM

  4. This is so cool .............

    Posted by: Colorado Bob Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 12:13 AM

  5. Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 12:15 AM

  6. This just great , Craig Crawford flogs books where Jimmy Hoffa disappeared, I love it ............... Old man falls out of chair in Texas.

    Posted by: Colorado Bob Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 12:19 AM

  7. You'll kill on Imus , next time, son. Don will eat this up.

    Posted by: Colorado Bob Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 12:22 AM

  8. By god, that was the best crime report since I sat in the old Sam Batts Restaurant at 22nd & Michigan in Chicago, at the New Michigan (nee Lexington) Hotel in 1969, listening to an old timer regale us with tales of the Capone days...The Lexington was one of Capone's HQs , his suite was room 538, and we got to see that, too.
    You'll all recall the New Michigan Hotel as the place where Geraldo (Jerry Rivers) Rivera tried to find Capone's stash, and blew up a wall to find nothing at all.
    The New Michigan is now dust...all gone forever.
    Anyway, this old timer told us of an accessible stairwell where we could see bullet holes in the wall...so we sneaked over there and yessirree Bob! Several bullet holes from Capone's day....I wonder if Geraldo even knew about that.....

    Posted by: DexterJohnson Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 12:24 AM

  9. God -
    I'm off to tell the internet about this post, this is just real proof that Washington hasn't ruined Craig Crawford.

    Posted by: Colorado Bob Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 12:32 AM

  10. Ivey, Dexter, CBob and all -- I consider this our Trail Mix mission: We will fi nd Jimmy Hoffa. But first, we must raise our blue corn to fruition.

    Posted by: craigcrawford.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 12:33 AM

  11. I want Trail Mixers to welcome Norm Sinclair to our fold. This is the man who can find out what happened to Hoffa. You mark my words. My guess is that he already knows.

    Posted by: craigcrawford.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 12:35 AM

  12. In Castle Rock, CO we usually walk to breakfast at the B&B Cafe. It bears the marks of its colorful history in the form of bullet holes in the ceiling and wall.

    "Bits and pieces of the town's history are tied to Annabelle Matney's own past. The bullet holes in the ceiling of the B&B Cafe are a reminder of the murder of her uncle Raymond Lewis in 1946. Lewis was a peace officer killed inside the diner by an escaped prisoner. The holes in the tin ceiling never were filled, and a brief history of the event is printed on the menu."

    http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_5166534,00.html

    Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 12:43 AM

  13. For starters, our Trail Mixers in South Florida should track "Chuckie" O'Brien. He is the the so-called "adopted son" of Jimmy Hoffa who is widely believed to know what really happened. He now lives in Boca Raton. KGC, that near you?

    Posted by: craigcrawford.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 12:49 AM

  14. We'll need badges. Where's our stinkin' badges??

    Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 12:50 AM

  15. Darnit, Ivey, your're changing the subject. How is that going to help us find Jimmy Hoffa? Get on the case, gal. Let's find the ole SOB.

    Posted by: craigcrawford.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 12:51 AM

  16. Absolutely, Ivey, we need badges. Trail Mixers will find Jimmy Hoffa. Somebody get us some stinking badges.

    Posted by: craigcrawford.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 12:53 AM

  17. I want to hear some theories, foks. Get out there and google this Hoffa story. Work up some ideas. If we can find Hoffa, we're making history.

    Posted by: craigcrawford.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 12:56 AM

  18. Oh no, what if Jimmy Hoffa already IS the stinkin' badges???

    We gotta put all the possibilities out on the table here...

    Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 12:58 AM

  19. Boca...what a perfect place for Chuckie. Chuckie was Detroit's teflon man, the feds couldn't even hang an indictment on him.

    Posted by: DexterJohnson Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 1:00 AM

  20. Hoffa theory (scroll down)

    "Just before he died, Frank Sheeran, confessed to author Charles Brandt that he killed Hoffa. According to Sheeran, Chuckie O'Brien drove Hoffa, Sheeran and another mobster Sal Briguglio to a house in Detroit. Hoffa and Sheeran went into the house and the other two men drove off. Sheeran says he shot Hoffa twice behind the right ear. After the murder, Sheeran says he left the house and was told Hoffa was cremated. The full story appears in Brandt's book I Heard You Paint Houses (2003)."

    http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAhoffa.htm

    Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 1:07 AM

  21. I mean, I want to believe Chuckie O'Brien, but I just can't believe he knew nothing about the disappearance of his "step-dad" Jimmy Hoffa.
    I remember when the feds went after Frank Fitzsimmons in the Hoffa disappearance, but quickly concluded Frank F. was
    not involved . I never believed that, cuz it was only Fitzsimmons who would lose if Hoffa regained the Teamsters presidency after Nixon commuted Hoffa's prison term to time served.
    With Hoffa out of the way, it was clear-sailing for Fitzsimmons to retain the Teamsters presidency. But nothing was ever hung on Frank F either.

    Posted by: DexterJohnson Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 1:12 AM

  22. Here a thought -- Make Hoffa's daughter a Supreme Court nominee and everyone will be picking through everything...

    "Barbara Ann (Hoffa) Crancer (born 1938), St. Louis County (Missouri) Associate Circuit Court Judge and daughter of former Teamsters Union president Jimmy Hoffa."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Ann_Crancer

    Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 1:13 AM

  23. you're on the "trail" folks. o'brien is the key, he's still alive and living in Boca. this is a job for KGC

    Posted by: craigcrawford.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 1:17 AM

  24. i've asked Norm Sinclair to give us direction in this matter. If he appears, we'll take orders from him.

    Posted by: craigcrawford.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 1:19 AM

  25. We never got to see the pistol duel between Bobby Kennedy and Jimmy Hoffa. No two humans hated each other as much as those two .

    Bobby Kennedy berated Hoffa for years and never understood a damn thing about the difficulties of union organizing.
    When it was Bobby's time to stand up, he let Eugene McCarthy do the leg-work in the chipping away of LBJ's presidency before jumping into the 1968 race. To this day I believe he should have got in behind McCarthy and supported him.

    Posted by: DexterJohnson Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 1:19 AM

  26. awaiting marching orders from Mr. Sinclair...we need to find out whodunnitt!!

    Posted by: DexterJohnson Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 1:22 AM

  27. Craig --

    Maybe you could get Norm Sinclair to go on Imus with you to talk about searching for Jimmy Hoffa?

    Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 1:26 AM

  28. Here's where things stood (on the verge of a breakthrough) befoe 911, as reported by NPR.. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1128639

    Posted by: craigcrawford.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 1:29 AM

  29. "Hold on a minute; I hain't had my say yit.
    You listen to me. Shooting's good, but there's quieter ways if the thing's GOT to be done.
    But what I say is this: it ain't good sense to go court'n' around after a halter if you can get at what you're up to in some way that's just as good and at the same time don't bring you into no resks. Ain't that so?"

    Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, Chapter: "Better Let Blame Well Alone"

    Posted by: DexterJohnson Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 1:30 AM

  30. off to sleep now, counting on the night crew to maintain the search, you just know that Google can find Hoffa somehow

    Posted by: craigcrawford.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 1:31 AM

  31. Craig - don't know if yer funnin' er whut, but KGC's out here in the wild west in wine country.

    Had an 8 am doc appointment and left a message on an answering machine to cancel it. Hope that works but will try again before 8 in the morning if I can wake up.

    I sure type more carefully when I'm afraid to move my hand.

    Well, all your groupers ( groupers, get it? one last fish pun), I'm a gonna crash. Nitey nite.

    Posted by: bethyboo Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 2:25 AM

  32. And so the Great Hoffa Hunt began .............

    Posted by: Colorado Bob Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 2:29 AM

  33. You know who will have the real skinny on Jimmy ?

    9/11 sort of, ,,,,,,,,,,,,, that guy will have a theory to bust all theories.

    Posted by: Colorado Bob Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 2:33 AM

  34. Norm Sinclair -
    You'll do well here , if you've been poking into the Detroit mob.
    But we temper it with bird stories.

    Posted by: Colorado Bob Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 2:37 AM

  35. DELBERT McCLINTON - I'm Dieing Just As Fast As I Can

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUgzsdqY1uE

    Posted by: Colorado Bob Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 2:51 AM

  36. Blues Brothers - Everybody Needs Somebody

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9-1jWAW4KA

    Posted by: Colorado Bob Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 2:57 AM

  37. Wilson Pickett- Everybody Needs Somebody

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9yIoVuUM-M

    Posted by: Colorado Bob Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 3:03 AM

  38. Bruce Springsteen - Pink Cadillac (Lost Masters Collection 1981/82) Audio

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Po7OrlvwNM

    Posted by: Colorado Bob Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 3:10 AM

  39. Bruce Springsteen - 57 Channels

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEl2HiSw0ho

    Posted by: Colorado Bob Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 3:12 AM

  40. I bought a bourgeois house in the hollywood hills
    With a truckload of hundred thousand dollar bills
    Man came by to hook up my cable tv
    We settled in for the night my baby and me
    We switched 'round and 'round 'til half-past dawn
    There was fifty-seven channels and nothin' on

    Well now home entertainment was my baby's wish
    So i hopped into town for a satellite dish
    I tied it to the top of my japanese car
    I came home and i pointed it out into the stars
    A message came back from the great beyond
    There's fifty-seven channels and nothin' on

    Well we might'a made some friends with some billionaires
    We might'a got all nice and friendly if we'd made it upstairs
    All i got was a note that said "bye-bye john
    Our love is fifty-seven channels and nothin' on"

    So i bought a .44 magnum it was solid steel cast
    And in the blessed name of elvis well i just let it blast
    'til my tv lay in pieces there at my feet
    And they busted me for disturbing the almighty peace
    Judge said "what you got in your defense son?"
    "fifty-seven channels and nothin' on"

    I can see by your eyes friend you're just about gone
    Fifty-seven channels and nothin' on...

    Posted by: Colorado Bob Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 3:13 AM

  41. Timothy Leary - Legend of a mind

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLC-y3r66Ys

    Posted by: Colorado Bob Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 3:27 AM

  42. Tears for Fears- Everybody Wants to Rule the World

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ni_c0IMP-c

    Posted by: Colorado Bob Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 3:31 AM

  43. Tears for Fears - Shout (Extended Version)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwTrbF9CSs0

    Posted by: Colorado Bob Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 3:37 AM

  44. Posted by: Colorado Bob Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 3:45 AM

  45. Posted by: Colorado Bob Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 3:50 AM

  46. Bob Dylan - Black Diamond Bay

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiRP4fkCMJw

    I was siting home alone one night in LA
    Watching old Cronkite on the seven o'clock news
    It seems there was an earthquake that
    Left nothing but a Panama hat
    And a pair of old Greek shoes

    Posted by: Colorado Bob Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 3:59 AM

  47. John Wesley Harding - I Am a Lonesome Hobo

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mQQiyTkUEE

    Posted by: Colorado Bob Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 4:01 AM

  48. Posted by: Colorado Bob Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 4:06 AM

  49. After Hoffa is found we must press the search for Ambrose Bierce...............

    Posted by: sturgeone Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 5:45 AM

  50. I don't think KGC lives in Florida. Unless she has moved recently, I think KGC lives in Northern California.

    Posted by: yo soy Horsedooty! Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 6:08 AM

  51. dex.....in re. capone and his friends........when I played the Royal Hotel in Moose Jaw, Sask. I got to stay in the room capone used......corner room had views two ways......no bullet holes, but very interesting, nonetheless..... the hotel owner gave us a bit of history of the tunnels and showed some of them to us where they came into the Royal's basement............

    http://www.virtualsk.com/current_issue/new_digs.html

    Posted by: sturgeone Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 6:35 AM

  52. between regina and the moose, I asked a Cree sitting by the stove in a service station, "How far is it to Moose Jaw?"
    He says, "Moose Jaw six feet from Moose Ass." I imagine he sat in there all day just hoping for a chance to tell that to some ignorantus like me........lol

    Posted by: sturgeone Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 6:40 AM

  53. oh........when we were there in '82 there were no theatrics yet.....that's a more recent development

    Posted by: sturgeone Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 6:41 AM

  54. sturge....did you ever play Red Deer? I was there with the Dirt Band for a week cutting a live album. Cool place.

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 6:43 AM

  55. no......didn't make Red Deer......just Moose and Melfort....in december and january..........brrrrr.

    Posted by: sturgeone Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 6:45 AM

  56. saw the dirt band oncet though, at one of those outdoor pavillions at some amusement park.......good show.........

    Posted by: sturgeone Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 6:47 AM

  57. guy i know in town is going to be on the jerry springer show today........the great jerry springer sing-off.......

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh24LLA24G4

    Posted by: sturgeone Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 6:57 AM

  58. Greetings, Norm......wherever you are. :)

    Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 7:08 AM

  59. craig, when we welcome norm sinclair, do we get to yell out "norm" like they did on cheers?

    Posted by: patd Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 7:12 AM

  60. http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/detroit-arsenal-of-the-future.html#comment-229197

    Bethy!

    I know you really hurt from your mishap but as you and I know, it could have been much, much, much worse.

    Hang-in there, recover rapidly, and know that we're all thinking of you.

    Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 7:16 AM

  61. "They don't even complain when I laugh at their imitations of other birds."

    flatus, he probably was the rich little of birddom and thinks you're a great audience.

    Posted by: patd Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 7:17 AM

  62. bethy, knowing the difficulty you have typing with your hurt paw, that makes your posts even more dear to us....

    Posted by: patd Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 7:20 AM

  63. There's a really great letter in this morning's Journal from a doc contesting an earlier op-ed opposing single-payer:
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124277312861336599.html

    Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 7:21 AM

  64. from flatus' wsj link, this is a good refutation to the tmrs here who argue against single-payer:

    "......'s statement that "Medicare pays doctors 20% to 30% less than private plans" is dead wrong. Some insurance plans pay 5% to 10% more than Medicare rates. But this presumed advantage is negated by the aggravation and overhead expense of dealing with private insurers and their patchwork of unfathomable private plan coverage, co-pays, deductibles, exclusions, required preauthorizations and delays....

    Medicare pays quickly, predictably and accurately, almost never making a mistake. Medicare's overhead is under 5%, compared to the 30% extracted from the premium payer's dollar for combined overhead and profit by the private medical insurance industry."

    Posted by: patd Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 7:30 AM

  65. charles kuralt in his book Charles Kuralt's America has a chapter on charleston, some month in the spring, where he whistles back and forth with a mockingbird every morning......It's something i've been doing since i was a kid.....mostly best when i find them singing in the wee hours before dawn.........Kuralt's book describes certain favorite sections of america for each month of the year.....he swears in the book that he whistled the opening notes of beethovan's fifth symphony at this mocky-bird day after day and that the bird finally sang it back......I've never been personally able to duplicate that, but have found that whistling with a mocky-bird is a very satisfying conversation....
    Lived in a condo once which had a mocky in the bush by the outside steps.....i was watching one morning as she flew over to the water spiggot next door and grasping the edge while upside down would stick her beak into the faucet for a drink.....[ah ha moment] I placed a big bowl of water on the railing about 2 feet from the nest and was treated for a year or 3 to the mocky-bird on my railing, wailing in the water..........

    Posted by: sturgeone Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 7:36 AM

  66. Sturg, this bird is especially for you:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-a7xI33BYBk

    I always enjoyed Charles Kuralt's marvelous visual essays.

    Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 7:42 AM


  67. All New Journeys From The New York Times Bestselling Author Of A Life On The Road.
    I keep thinking I will find something wonderful just around the bend.

    Ever since October 1967, when he set off in a battered motor home to explore America and talk to its people, Charles Kuralt has been one of our premier chroniclers -- a man who has helped us see and celebrate our country in a way we never had before.

    After retiring from CBS News in 1994, he set out to spend a perfect year in America -- traveling to his twelve favorite American places, in just the right month for a visit to each. With his well-known warmth, humor and insight, he shows them to us now in Charles Kuralt's America.

    From Montana in September and Alaska in June to winter in Cajun country and the North Carolina mountains in spring, Kuralt's accounts are filled with people, stories and experiences. Suffused by a poet's love of language and rich in the spirit and flavor of this infinite and varied land, Charles Kuralt's America is, like its author, a national treasure.

    Posted by: sturgeone Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 7:47 AM

  68. patti page......ah ye've touched a tender spot, mr flatus.......


    met kuralt oncet when he came to the restaurant we played in.....got to thank him for the way he handled the news of lennon's death..........

    Posted by: sturgeone Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 7:49 AM

  69. flate......and then there's this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeuVBZZjz7k

    Posted by: sturgeone Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 7:59 AM

  70. http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/jimmy-hoffa-and-me.html#comment-229287

    Well this does quickly become a place where everybody knows your name.

    Hi NORM!!

    Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 8:31 AM

  71. mornin'

    Theories, Craig? You want theories?

    The old bastard woke up nearly every morning around 3:45 a.m. just as the gunshots rang out. He was never quite sure at first whether the noise was real or part of some dream he couldn't quite remember more than bits and pieces of. As the fog of that rude awakening began to reside, he remembered and he smiled, wondering if anyone would ever find the old man on the bottom of lake St. Clair. " I never thought that asshole Gray would get the bastard after Hoover died and that asshole Felt got me railroaded, but I guess they owed Hoover one last favor. God knows they didn't do it for me. Well, tough shit, Jimmy - hope you enjoy the view from down there." He turned on the television and the late night CNN anchor was talking about Hillary Clinton's health care plan. He laughed to himself - "Hell," he thought, "we'll see a black president before they ever pass that socialist plan." He clicked off the tube and fell back to sleep.

    Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 8:35 AM

  72. Ah, the Dirt Band - saw them when they were still the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, Doug Kershaw and Linda Ronstat do a free concert in the old quad back in the day. They did put on a great show - in one number (too many years, too many drugs to remember which one) they passed their instruments around and played each other's parts. But Kershaw stole the shoe. Green crushed velvet suit and wild fricking cajun fiddle.

    Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 8:39 AM

  73. The old Les Paul and Mary Ford show was good music and this was my favorite song: The World Is Waiting for the Sunrise

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iGXP_UBog4

    Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 8:48 AM

  74. http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/jimmy-hoffa-and-me.html#comment-229299

    wow, pogo, was that your very own bete noir writing?
    you must write a mean brief...

    Posted by: patd Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 8:49 AM

  75. Yeah, Pat, it's mine. (Well, I do read a lot and probably stole every word of it from one book or another). One day I'll write the great American novel - I've always wanted to be more Stephen King than F. Lee Bailey -and die in obscurity with an unpublished manuscript.

    Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 8:59 AM

  76. pogo, f. lee, heck.... do a grisham...

    and on that nyt story... admin. is having its cake and eating it too... gets pres off the hook for awhile.

    Posted by: patd Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 9:20 AM

  77. Pogo,

    Isn't that the true goal of most attorneys--- write the
    great American novel, that is---or at least star in
    the movie version!

    And hope this makes you smile this a.m.----it was a
    long time ago, but great memories.

    http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/05/20/namath-reflects-on-his-immigrant-forbears/?hp

    Posted by: Coreen Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 9:35 AM

  78. What a group. Last night the topic was fish puns. Today it is fish food. Good thing the sun never sets on the Trail Mixers. And, good morning.

    Posted by: cajunjoe.pip.verisignlabs.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 9:37 AM

  79. Pat, yeah, cover.

    Coreen, I wish I could do a Grisham - he made more money than any of the lawyers he writes about would if they were actual, like, real people. Actually, I'd probably go more down the lines of a Patricia Cornwell - a little law, a little cop work and a little horror. Makes for interesting reading.

    Funny, I had just read that from the Times. Joe Willy - Hell of a great guy.

    Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 9:39 AM

  80. http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/jimmy-hoffa-and-me.html#comment-229254

    well how in the world did I get that wrong. All this time I thought KGC was in South Florida. There's another mystery right there.

    Posted by: craigcrawford.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 9:39 AM

  81. Sorry - pat, I wish...

    Coreen, Funny ...

    (note to self - pay attention to who writes what)

    Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 9:41 AM

  82. No craig - that was you way back when, and a few others, among whose company KGC is not.

    Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 9:44 AM

  83. Craig,

    Will you be doing more traveling and speeches any time soon?

    Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 9:50 AM

  84. http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/jimmy-hoffa-and-me.html#comment-229256

    So, C-Bob, you think we need the G-Man on the case?

    http://www.paperlessarchives.com/hoffa.html

    "Highlights from the files include: Files showing that in 1990 the FBI took a strong interest in Detroit area meat packing plants. Files show that the FBI checked out every meatpacking plant in the Detroit area. Files indicate an examination of a gun in Pittsburgh in 1990. The files show that the FBI interviewed more than a dozen people in late 2001 and 2002, pursuing leads in Florida, Indiana, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Kentucky. Documents chronicle the contention between Jimmy Hoffa and Anthony Provenzano. Details about Hoffa's activities in the days before his disappearance. FBI files tells of Jimmy Hoffa's growing disenchantment with Chuckie O'Brien and O'Brien's increasing devotion to Anthony Giacalone. FBI files showed that on August 4, 1975, O'Brien stunned then-Teamsters President Fitzsimmons by showing up at Fitzsimmons' office. Statements from an informant about Jimmy Hoffa's attorney Frank Ragano. Documents shows the Bureau's interest in a 7/24/92 airing of the television tabloid show "Current Affair", in which a man, whose identity was cloaked, claimed to be a mafia hitman and says he was present when Jimmy Hoffa was killed. The FBI was able to identify, interview, and give a polygraph exam to the man. Documents indicate a high power conference took place in April 2001 to discuss the status of the case and prosecutorial strategy. Files indicate physical surveillance dealing with the case as late as May 23, 2001."

    Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 10:00 AM

  85. "In an escalation of arguments over closing a prison facility at Guantanamo Bay, a top Pentagon official says members of Congress must rethink their opposition to accepting these detainees into the United States.

    Michele Flournoy is President Barack Obama's new Pentagon policy chief. She says members of Congress need to remember that closing the stigmatized prison in Cuba will mean hard choices for everyone. She spoke after Senate Democrats said they won't pay for closure until the administration delivers a satisfactory plan for what to do with the detainees.

    Flournoy says it's unrealistic to think that no detainees will come to the U.S., and that the U.S. can't ask allies to take detainees while refusing to take on the same burden.

    Without singling anyone out, Flournoy said lawmakers need to think more "strategically.""

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090520/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_us_guantanamo;_ylt=AkTTvpTd62QXJDWgwpqH4F6yFz4D

    Posted by: warren Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 10:08 AM

  86. Coreen - you are so right about every lawyer having a hidden (or unhidden) desire to pen the next Great American Novel.

    Guilty as charged!!

    Although I envision my novel having a lot more philosophy and humour than law...

    Posted by: warren Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 10:11 AM

  87. http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/jimmy-hoffa-and-me.html#comment-229312

    Pogo --

    I haven't been a suspense or crime novel reader since I quit Nancy Drew. But if I were to take up the genre, I would start with Linda Fairstein. Every time she appears on Imus, I'm enthralled by her tales.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_Fairstein

    Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 10:12 AM

  88. http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/jimmy-hoffa-and-me.html#comment-229310

    Coreen, LOL The goal of most attorneys seems to be to find some fun occupation where they can do honest work - or become a fiction writer. btw, in the middle of my UA shrine is the book I got last father's day - "Namath". A fun read - and has an accompanying DVD - The Legend fo Broadway Joe."

    Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 10:18 AM

  89. Okay, this is far-fetched, but...

    I would like to see Cuba file a claim against the United States in the International Court in The Hague charging that, while the United States has sovereignty over Guantanamo by virtue of treaty, the United States has violated that treaty by carrying out activities (torture) that are illegal under international law. Obviously the claim will go nowhere, but it would open up an interesting second front in the debate. I've been surprised that the Cubans have been so compliant on this from the beginning.

    Posted by: cajunjoe.pip.verisignlabs.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 10:21 AM

  90. Warren,

    And mine would be more mystery, less law a little romance, and naturally with a female lead character. But that would mean I actually thought I could write a novel---which I do not.

    That is why Craig, Patsi, et al, have my total respect.

    Posted by: Coreen Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 10:22 AM

  91. http://www.justnews.com/news/9247357/detail.html

    well we will start here...Chuckie's last interview
    in which he says Hoffa junior is full of crap

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 10:23 AM

  92. Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 10:25 AM

  93. kgc has started a trail of crumbs for us to follow... follow her lead, dr. watson

    Posted by: patd Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 10:29 AM

  94. This is kind of interesting: a law professor in Tenn has won a hearing on unsealing the records of Hoffa's conviction on jury tampering.

    "Even if Tabac can prove his theory, it’s unclear if that would lead to overturning the conviction.

    “The problem is just that everyone is dead, so it is pretty hard to do,” Tabac said. “If there is perjured testimony, I think the relatives may have standing to bring some kind of ... name-clearing procedure.”
    http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/apr/10/professor-seeking-sealed-jimmy-hoffa-case-records/

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 10:30 AM

  95. Pogo,

    I was given 2 copies of the Joe Namath book/dvd a
    Christmas ago. All my friends know ---he was
    my hero. The glory days of the NYJets--probably never to be repeated in the forseeable future.

    Posted by: Coreen Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 10:31 AM

  96. Ivy, I got hooked on Cornwell's Scarpetta novels when I picked up "Blowfly" in an airport bookstore on one vacation. I'll have to check out Fairstein. (We don't get Imus here anymore).

    Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 10:39 AM

  97. Coreen, you can check out my comments about Joe and Joe worship at the Times online - mine are theLC comments.

    Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 10:45 AM

  98. Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 10:59 AM

  99. "Craig, Will you be doing more traveling and speeches any time soon? Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com"

    not yet, Jamie, thanks for asking. this last one was unrelated to the next book, which comes out in the fall. so, this summer we'll start scheduling things.

    anyone with an idea for an event can contact our agent Diane Nine at ninespeakers@usa.net

    Posted by: craigcrawford.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 11:03 AM

  100. KGC, thanks for the Hoffa leads. Sorry i "mis-remembered" your location

    Posted by: craigcrawford.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 11:03 AM

  101. Sturg,

    Just got in from doing the yard--the only person within two miles who does it himself. :)

    Here's another Les Paul/ Mary Ford that I really like. I think it's better than Patti's:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6geIf6z-Xw&feature=related

    Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 11:04 AM

  102. Where Detriot's very own conspiracy theorists hang out
    (gross out warning)
    http://hotfudgedetroit.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=82765&sid=1d59d0d6b78491648e4f9f330db628b9

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 11:06 AM

  103. It would be fun to be in Boca...

    http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,917718-5,00.html

    the Time Magazine coverage from 1975

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 11:10 AM

  104. heheheh

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/19/the-best-of-lettermans-co_n_205091.html

    Letterman - Conan has a big set of shoes to fill if he thinks he can go head to head with him and keep the larger audience.

    Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 11:17 AM

  105. flatus - I'm a lawn (well, yard) warrior, too. Probably explains why my yard looks merely acceptable. Not living in some highfalutin subdivision, acceptable is just fine with me as long as who it's acceptable to is Mrs. P.

    Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 11:28 AM

  106. http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/jimmy-hoffa-and-me.html#comment-229339

    That is good stuff you've unearthed, KGC. I loved the guy's wisecrack about the giant **** fish in the backseat of Chuckie's car. I don't imagine Chuckie sleeps easy at night. Do Hoffa's children still push the agenda forward? I'm still wondering about his daughter who's a judge.

    Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 11:39 AM

  107. Craig,

    Here's an easy one for you even if the new book isn't out by September. The kick off for "Fall of Books" at Politics and Prose in DC with other locations in Maryland and Virginia.

    http://fallforthebook.org/?p=15

    If some of us could get to the area, it would make a great time for a get together.

    Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 11:53 AM

  108. Pogo, isn't it about time for Lil P to belly-up to the mower?

    Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 12:40 PM

  109. max:

    You should appreciate this:

    U.S., Israel forming working group on Iran Set to assess progress of outreach, share intelligence

    http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/may/20/us-israel-forming-working-group-on-iran/

    Posted by: warren Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 12:47 PM

  110. Patsi -
    In the summer of 1976 , Jeff Hanna had a girl friend that worked at the leather shop I was working at in Estes Park, The Dark Horse Leather.
    He would come over from Aspen in his cream colored Porsche. He bought one of my leather vests, with buffalo nickel buttons.

    Nitty Gritty and Friends "Will the Circle be Unbroken" live

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLD85G2jr-o
    --------------------
    Undertaker please drive slow.

    Posted by: Colorado Bob Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 12:52 PM

  111. Interesting study:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/20090520/hl_hsn/beingapeoplepersonmaybeallinyourhead

    (But I am always surprised at the sweeping conclusions made after studying a small sample. For example, here 41 people. I suspect that is because even science is a bit like reading a horoscope. The harder you search for the truth (or the greater the desire) - the more often you will find some truth that will resonate.)

    Posted by: warren Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 12:54 PM

  112. Posted by: Colorado Bob Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 1:06 PM

  113. Thought for the day :
    " Where facts are few, experts are many. "

    Posted by: Colorado Bob Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 1:07 PM

  114. 1734 1st Jockey Club forms in South Carolina
    1927 At 7:40 AM, Lindbergh takes off from New York to cross Atlantic for Paris

    Posted by: Colorado Bob Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 1:14 PM

  115. Amelia Earhart - 1932

    Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 1:17 PM

  116. Blonde Wino sent me pictures of her offending turtle, and she also informs me she broke her hand. The women on this site, are in a really rough patch lately.

    Buckle your chin straps girls.

    Posted by: Colorado Bob Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 1:18 PM

  117. I just came in from flip-flopping around in the creek...it was going good until I encountered "the snake." I don't know if it was THE snake or just a snake...

    Looked like this guy, but I didn't see the face cuz he was high-tailing in the other direction...

    http://www.outdooralabama.com/watchable-wildlife/what/Reptiles/Snakes/bws.cfm

    Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 1:29 PM

  118. yard work.........i heard that when charlie pride had a couple of hits under his belt he bought a new house in a high-end neighborhood.......first thing he did was bring in a lawn mower and start cutting his grass.......his neighbor looked on for awhile and then approached him with "that's good work....when you finish his lawn, what would you charge to do mine also?" Charlie told him $50 or whatever it was and then went and cut the guy's grass.......

    Posted by: sturgeone Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 1:32 PM

  119. Another shining day for " the church " -

    DUBLIN, May 20, 2009 (Reuters) — Priests beat and raped children during decades of abuse in Catholic-run institutions in Ireland, a report said Wednesday.

    http://www.newsdaily.com/stories/tre54j4gv-us-ireland-church-abuse/

    Posted by: Colorado Bob Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 1:36 PM

  120. Posted by: Colorado Bob Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 1:47 PM

  121. Craig, you're where everything's happening. And then there was the wedding party in Italy. What luck.


    If Bush was the school yard bully, which he was, then the RNC are the kid tortureres who are always name calling. Boy are they floundering and immature.

    The "Socialist Resolution" on the Dems.

    How freakin' pathetic!

    *NO social security for them*

    tt

    Posted by: tiptoe Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 1:55 PM

  122. I would like to be in charge of the "Find Jimmy Hoffa" headquarters of West Michigan. I'm gonna need a box of donuts and a pot of coffee. It's gonna be a long day!

    Posted by: Corey Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 1:59 PM

  123. *L* @ Corey!

    tt

    Posted by: tiptoe Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 2:01 PM

  124. I LOVE it when KO says, "Genius, I tells ya, genius!".

    Morons, I tells ya, morons!

    tt

    Posted by: tiptoe Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 2:02 PM

  125. http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/jimmy-hoffa-and-me.html#comment-229349

    Flatus, we're in negotiations about that right now. He's desperate for a way around child labor laws and spending money. (Plus I figure a couple or three years on the lawn tractor won't hurt when it's time to get behind the wheel of a car).

    Ivy, thems is some mean looking snakes - pretty easily confused with a cottonmouth. I can't say I'd stick my hand out just to find out.

    http://www.uga.edu/srelherp/SPARC/trip5.htm

    Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 2:02 PM


  126. Jesse Ventura on The View

    Jesse Ventura debates Elizabeth Hasselbeck about waterboarding. Who do you think won the debate?

    http://boingboing.hexten.net/2009/05/20/jesse-ventura-on-the.html

    Posted by: Colorado Bob Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 2:06 PM

  127. Hoffa disappeared in 1975. Who was our President in 1975? Gerald Ford. The Gerald R. Ford Museum is in Grand Rapids, 30 minutes from here. Guess, that would be the most likely place to begin my investigation. LOL!

    Posted by: Corey Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 2:08 PM

  128. Posted by: Corey Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 2:08 PM

    I think you are on to something!

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 2:13 PM

  129. Good deductive reasoning, Corey.

    tt

    Posted by: tiptoe Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 2:13 PM

  130. I watched Scooby Doo. I learned things.

    Posted by: Corey Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 2:15 PM

  131. Retired military chiefs: Time to shift from oil

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30826253/

    Posted by: Colorado Bob Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 2:15 PM

  132. Charlie Pride was one of my uncle's favorite country singers - along with Johnny Cash, which was interesting since aside from a whip smart construction laborer who worked for him - strongest guy I ever met - who couldn't read but repaired televisions on the side - and Charlie, he was pretty much a dyed in the wool Southern Baptist racist.

    Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 2:16 PM

  133. Corey -
    Old man falls out chair in Texas.

    Posted by: Colorado Bob Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 2:17 PM

  134. http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/jimmy-hoffa-and-me.html#comment-229367

    The only one who made any sense at all was the gentleman from Oregon (there didn't seem to be any women or minorities for them to interview). Of course even the guy from Oregon neglected to mention that the party that had been doing everything he objected to for the last eight years was the Republicans.

    Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 2:19 PM

  135. Here's a question for all of you:

    Which task sounds easier?

    Finding out what happened to Jimmy Hoffa? or....

    Finding out what happened to the Republican Party?

    Posted by: Corey Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 2:21 PM

  136. Corey - (b) - the republican party got Newtered.

    Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 2:26 PM

  137. http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/jimmy-hoffa-and-me.html#comment-229370

    Going to peruse that well, Pogo, but gots to run right now...thanks for the link if you happen to be vamoose when I get back...

    Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 2:34 PM

  138. "He bought one of my leather vests, with buffalo nickel buttons. "

    Cool...when we lost touch a few years back I was in the process of trying to buy a vest from you!

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 2:54 PM

  139. http://cbhopibluecornexperiment.blogspot.com/

    CBob,
    Nice picture of the turtle in full attack, as well as nice videos of yours.
    .
    I can't believe Blonde actually got a picture of her turtle 'in the act' of eating her corn. Ha, funny! Nice looking turtle though. Do you know how she broke her hand? (I hope it didn't involve the turtle) :)

    Posted by: chloe Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 3:01 PM

  140. "Which task sounds easier?

    Finding out what happened to Jimmy Hoffa? or....

    Finding out what happened to the Republican Party?"

    Ha! Corey, You already know the answer to that one.

    Posted by: chloe Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 3:02 PM

  141. "Old man falls out chair in Texas. "

    ... watch out CBob. That's twice in one day.

    Posted by: chloe Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 3:04 PM

  142. Okay, as long as y'all are investigating the disappearance of Jimmy Hoffa, could you expand your investigation to who was really behind the death of Arizona Republic journalist Don Bolles as well?

    Posted by: cajunjoe.pip.verisignlabs.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 3:07 PM

  143. Chloe -
    Sorry , it was just what I posted. No other details .

    I think her tortise is munching on some sort salad plant.

    Posted by: Colorado Bob Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 3:14 PM

  144. death of Arizona Republic journalist Don Bolles -
    ------------------------
    Yes, who killed that guy ?

    Posted by: Colorado Bob Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 3:16 PM

  145. Not so much who planted the bomb, but who was behind it?

    Posted by: cajunjoe.pip.verisignlabs.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 3:20 PM

  146. I think Jimmy Hoffa as good as disintegrated immediately on disappearence...Finding him ain't gonna happen

    .... someone's take:
    "....this is the scenario which most parties, including the FBI, believe to be true: Anthony Provenzano, a mobster and New Jersey Teamsters boss, asked Hoffa to meet him for lunch to patch up their relationship, which had become strained while Hoffa was in prison. Anthony Giacalone had arranged the lunch, but neither he nor Provenzano showed up. Hoffa was picked up by several men in a maroon Mercury sedan, was murdered in Detroit and his body was disposed of at a mob-owned sanitation company in Hamtramck, Michigan. Hoffa was officially declared "presumed dead" in 1982.: http://www.answers.com/topic/jimmy-hoffa

    ... Hoffa is mentioned in a new book:
    "How Congressional investigations of Marcello, Trafficante, and Rosselli for JFK’s murder were stymied by the murders of five witnesses, including Rosselli and Jimmy Hoffa." http://legacyofsecrecy.com/index.html

    ... a side note:
    Friday, April 10, 2009
    Professor seeking sealed Jimmy Hoffa case records
    "A retired law professor has persuaded a federal judge to consider unsealing secret grand jury records to set the historical record straight. William L. Tabac wants to prove his theory that the Justice Department _ then led by Hoffa's nemesis, Robert Kennedy _ used illegal wiretaps and improper testimony to indict the Teamsters leader." http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2009Apr10/0,4670,HoffaCourtRecords,00.html

    Posted by: chloe Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 3:23 PM

  147. "I think her tortise is munching on some sort salad plant."

    Good. I assumed without taking a good look, I guess.

    Posted by: chloe Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 3:26 PM

  148. For those who may not know the story of Don Bolles:


    http://www.ire.org/history/timeline.html

    and

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Bolles

    Posted by: cajunjoe.pip.verisignlabs.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 3:27 PM

  149. I know Jamie already posted Bill Clinton being named U.N. special envoy for Haiti, but there's a nice picture and a word from Hillary here, as well as mention of them going there on a delayed honeymoon long ago.

    Hillary's husband gets new job as envoy to Haiti
    "Haiti is a country with special significance for the Clintons. As newlyweds, they traveled there on a "delayed honeymoon." While there, the couple bought five Haitian paintings, which they've kept throughout the years in every house they've lived in, including the White House. "'I have a personal interest in Haiti going back many years," Secretary Clinton told the Miami Herald last month. She also said that she and Bill "have always been cheering for the success of Haiti against some pretty tough odds." http://hillary.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/05/19/hillarys_husband_gets_new_job_as_envoy_to_haiti

    Posted by: chloe Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 3:33 PM

  150. http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/jimmy-hoffa-and-me.html#comment-229397

    At least something was accomplished on that investigation , Joe. I just went over your links, and it looks like they put a lot of work into it. (not that they didn't on the Hoffa investigation, though.... just seems like a lot less leads)

    Posted by: chloe Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 3:43 PM

  151. yes, a great deal of investigation went on, but they never got past the 'triggermen.' The connection to Cindy McCain's father is an interesting footnote.

    At that time, the mafia and the corruption in Arizona were rampant.

    Posted by: cajunjoe.pip.verisignlabs.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 3:47 PM

  152. Chloe,

    I kind of think of Haiti as being a microcosm of everything that can go wrong in a country. Hunger, health problems, formidable weather, poverty, self-serving leadership, illiteracy, lack of support from neighbors, isolated by language and religion,,,

    There are two people up to such a challenge, Bill Clinton and Bill Gates.

    Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 3:47 PM

  153. "credit card bill on way to pres."

    Show me the money, show me the money...

    Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 4:01 PM

  154. Crude hits 6 mo. high just befor vaction season begins this weekend - What A Coincidence!!!

    http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009/05/20/business/AP-US-Oil-Prices.html

    You'd think maybe there's a pattern to these things.

    Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 4:07 PM

  155. I wish the pres would veto the credit card bill over the guns in parks rider.

    Posted by: cajunjoe.pip.verisignlabs.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 4:12 PM

  156. http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/jimmy-hoffa-and-me.html#comment-229405

    Flatus,

    Don't forget the total environmental destruction of the country as all the native vegetation was destroyed in order to plant the slave grown, nutrient sucking sugar to make others wealthy while the native population descended into greater and greater poverty.

    People tend to lump together the various colonial nations, but when you look at where the French were vs where the British went, there is an amazing difference.

    Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 4:14 PM

  157. Here is an environmental report on Haiti - Fixing it would almost require clearing out all the people and rebuilding it from scratch.

    http://www.nationsencyclopedia.com/Americas/Haiti-ENVIRONMENT.html

    Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 4:17 PM

  158. I wish the pres would veto the credit card bill because it is crap legislation. I just got a notification that my rate would increase 75 days from now or I could opt out of the card. Bank of America, at least, is already giving advance notice of rate hikes - at least they did to me. And putting the contracts online - whoop-de-do. There may be good provisions in this bill, but they ain't many and ain't close. If you pay your CC bill on time, this bill hurts you more than it helps you from what I can tell.

    Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 4:21 PM

  159. http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=46721

    This one is even more extensive as it lays out the problems likely in Haiti with this year's storm season

    Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 4:25 PM

  160. "Charlie Pride was one of my uncle's favorite country singers"

    Same here Pogo. . When I'd go pick him up after he'd been out carousing, he hop in and be hum-singing his fave tune, 'Kiss an Indian good morning" rofl

    Posted by: Rezdog Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 4:27 PM

  161. Yeah, Rez, THAT was the song. (:-)

    Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 4:30 PM

  162. Pogo

    There are a few things for the on time people. "on time" can no longer be arbitrary. It is now before close of business on due date. Also, if due date falls on Sunday and you pay by computer on Sunday, they can't charge you a late fee because they don't "record" it until Monday.

    The notification period you already know about. Also, they can't raise your interest if you are late on another bill i.e. late on mortgage but on time for CC, they can't raise the interest.

    There are some items about interest rates on old balances vs new balances but if you already pay off each month that doesn't help you.

    May I suggest U.S. Bank as being ten times better than B of A every thought of being in their wildest dreams. I gave up on B of A about three decades ago as being a waste of time and money.


    Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 4:31 PM

  163. Pogo . . . Or, of course, I ran around with a Pima girl for a bit while when I was a ASU and her fave song at the time was, "Anybody Going to Sacaton." 8-)

    Sorry Pogo, old tales. . .strange but true.

    Posted by: Rezdog Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 4:50 PM

  164. Haiti would be the ideal market for cbobs solar oven
    because of the deforestation and lack of fuel'''
    did he get fully funded to build his prototype yet ?

    Posted by: mqw Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 5:12 PM

  165. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124268952606832391.html

    "Obama Avoids Test on Gays in Military"

    "Last week, the White House was pressed to explain whether the administration would intervene to protect Lt. Dan Choi, a West Point graduate and Arabic speaker in the Army National Guard. He announced he was gay as part of a plan to challenge the law. White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said the president believes the issue should be dealt with through legislation.

    In the appeals court case last year, the Bush administration argued that Air Force Maj. Margaret Witt, who was discharged after authorities discovered she had a relationship with a woman, had no grounds to challenge her expulsion in light of congressional findings that gays and lesbians in uniform "create an unacceptable risk" to military morale and "unit cohesion."

    But the court ordered the government to show why military discipline would be imperiled by the specific presence of Maj. Witt.

    President Obama faced an early March deadline to file an appeal to the Supreme Court. Obama aides twice filed requests asking for a one-month extension, which the court granted. The administration let the most recent deadline pass without seeking another extension."

    Posted by: tonyb39 Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 5:18 PM

  166. http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-05-18/gops-torture-tricks-backfire/

    "GOP's Torture Tricks Backfire"

    "And here's where the right's tactical acumen comes up short. Various conservative commentators have expressed their hope that gunning for Pelosi will blunt progressive calls for a "truth commission" to thoroughly investigate what really happened on Bush's trip to the "dark side". Fox's Neil Cavuto said we might be in a "Mexican standoff" wherein Pelosi would agree to drop the idea of investigations to prevent herself from attracting scrutiny. Steven Hayes, Dick Cheney's official biographer, said, "Democrats who have been so enthusiastic about truth commissions have to be stopping and saying, OK, wait a second." What conservatives are missing here is that this is a fight they were winning before they started gunning for Pelosi. Their best ally in this fight was Barack Obama, whose desire to "move forward" rather than focusing on the past had been the subject of much consternation. Had conservatives simply reached out to grab the hand that was being extended to them, they could have gotten what they wanted."

    Posted by: tonyb39 Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 5:26 PM

  167. Thanks for that link, Tony!

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 5:34 PM

  168. Governor Perry's campaign steps in it again

    http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/APStories/stories/D98A601G2.html

    The letter the GOP ladies wrote about the "whorehouse" remark needed Patsi to really tear off his hide.

    Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 5:54 PM

  169. Maybe Texans really should elect Kinky

    http://www.kinkyfriedman.com/

    Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 5:56 PM

  170. The Houston TV news reporter who closed the Chicken Ranch

    "Marvin Zindler's trademark signoff at the end of each report was, nearly shouting: 'Maaarvin Zindler..... Eeeeeeeyewitness NEWS!' "

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Zindler

    Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 7:09 PM

  171. Mqw -

    The foremost design criteria for my oven is to build a cart that any street vendor anywhere in the world can push around. The proto-type will be constructed so that any Walmart manager would say, " Sure you can park it in front of my store. "
    I'm buying the state of the art in solar reflective film for it, and it'll have nearly 60 sq feet of collector surface. I'm going for 400 degrees at noon on a sunny day.

    And thank-you for asking about it, I hit 80 dollars in pledges today.
    And I have just begun to beg. But I have been buying materials , ....insulation coming in tomorrow, & I have the steel already .

    Posted by: Colorado Bob Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 7:16 PM

  172. "I hit 80 dollars in pledges today.
    And I have just begun to beg."

    cbob, please post to whom exactly and where one can send their hard-earned treasure, their greedy haul, or their widow's mite as the case may be to help you on this noble joust against the cold dark windmills with only your solar oven lance and faithful sanchos and sanchas panza del tm at your side.

    Posted by: patd Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 7:39 PM

  173. http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/jimmy-hoffa-and-me.html#comment-229426
    Jamie
    Ha,yes a few minutes with our Patsi would straighten him out!!

    Posted by: tonyb39 Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 7:49 PM

  174. "The letter the GOP ladies wrote about the "whorehouse" remark needed Patsi to really tear off his hide."

    Ha! I just heard about that when I got up from my afternoon nap. God, what a putz. And you know, I learned back during the 70s that there is a certain kind GOP woman that is formidable when it comes to women's issues. Those women are probably fewer now than then. But they were usually older, wealthy, social moderates -- and very headstrong. I suspect Texas still has a few of them here and there.

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 7:50 PM

  175. I cooked with solar over the years. The type of black box that the food cooks in is very important. I always liked cast iron, 'cuz it holds the heat. That is a fine quality to have, in case you're a little late in rotating lunch sunward.

    I've also cooked in foil pouches on my cars' exhaust manifolds. This comes in handy when you want to move a lot of miles, and don't want to stop at a restaurant. It's a 2fer.

    Posted by: xrepublican Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 7:54 PM

  176. Btw, I don't think they deepsixed him or buried him in a concrete foundation. I think he went into 576 cans of 'chicken flavor' cat food bound for the Canadian market.

    Posted by: xrepublican Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 7:59 PM

  177. Coming hot on the heels of his inflamatory secession speech, perry is taking on a sort of wacko from waco personna. He's beginning to look like the Suthun Baptists' very own Daffy Duck.

    If texans re-elect perry, we ought to force Mexico to take them all back.

    Posted by: xrepublican Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 8:04 PM

  178. a little musical charm to soothe the savage breast

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iP0q1xIkB4

    Posted by: patd Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 8:20 PM

  179. We used to tie our c-rations to our truck engines. It helped (significantly) if we made a little vent hole in the can.

    Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 8:24 PM

  180. eProf has a nice blog today with a little assistance from deToqueville

    http://eprof22.blogspot.com/

    Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 8:39 PM

  181. If you do the right thing & what you know to be right for the people you will be a great president.RIP Jimmy

    Posted by: buford.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 8:43 PM

  182. The view and glenn beck

    lol

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csTS7fk01iI

    Posted by: sturgeone Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 8:44 PM

  183. patd

    I've always liked the French version of the song: Le Moulons de mon Coeur

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_JWSYesl8U

    I wrote a blog article about Michele LeGrand with the lyrics in both English and French

    http://jdurward.blogspot.com/2008/11/michele-le-grande.html

    Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 8:45 PM

  184. jamie, thanks. it's a fascinating song.

    Posted by: patd Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 8:48 PM

  185. actually more like mesmerizing....

    Posted by: patd Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 8:49 PM

  186. "Obama picks financial backer for UK ambassador post
    Chicago friend Louis Susman chosen for plum posting despite president's promise to end cronyism in Washington"

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/20/obama-uk-ambassador-louis-susman

    Posted by: patd Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 8:52 PM

  187. This gets really scary sometimes. I've been thinking about posting a story re Don Bolles's death and the impact on me, when it pops up here. I feel I have a mandate now to tell you, but will keep it short (HA!) as I've decided to go to the local urgent care place for my pains.

    In 1981 I left teaching to come to ca to live with my mom who was dying of cancer. Back in St Louis was an old student of mine who was probably dying of cancer. It was very depressing living with my mom and I wasn't working - I realize now I missed teaching. Then one day one of my few teacher friends called me and didnt't have to tell me that tammy had died.

    Several years later after my mom died and all sorts of plans had gone awry, I hit what I thought was rock bottom (it never is) and was in bad shape. I went to a job counselor and how she did it I'll never know, but she got to to talk re those two deaths. She said she thought I was just terribly sad and hurting, and suggested I reading a poem written by Don Bolles's
    brother, the author of What Color Is Your Parachute.
    It was in the back of one of the issues of his book.


    The result wascrying and crying and more crying, but it worked. I'm not saying things got better right away, but that poem got me past a log jam of emotions. I'll never forget it, or that woman - how did a job counseling interview at a library lead to that?

    Posted by: bethyboo Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 8:53 PM

  188. bethy, i agree it is scary here sometimes when all our disparate tho'ts and lives coincide unexpectedly. that must have been hard for you to post both emotionally and because of your injuries. how are those pains? is there swelling? hope that the care center has just the right palliative care for you even if they can't heal it.

    Posted by: patd Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 9:11 PM

  189. Fascinating recollections, Bethy. And, of course, why did you head to a library for your session rather than some employment agency.

    And, that path ultimately led you to us. And, for that, I'm thankful.

    Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 9:16 PM

  190. Bethy, Thanks for telling us that story.
    Can you remember the name of that poem? The only one I could find was a poem he mentioned in an article he wrote. A poem by John Godfrey Saxe about the blind men and the elephant. http://www.jobdig.com/articles/349/Depression_and_the_job_hunt.html

    If you remember the title, I would like to read it.


    Also Bethy, I don't know if you saw CBob's post to you. He says he would like you to post a story about your corn plants that came up so fast. I know you can email your words to him if you want, and he will post it on his blue corn site.
    http://cbhopibluecornexperiment.blogspot.com/

    .... his email is on the site: coloradobob1 at mac.com

    Posted by: chloe Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 9:31 PM

  191. Bethy, I'm sorry about your injuries too. Let us know what the doctor says. Blonde Wino broke her hand yesterday - that was also in CBobs post.

    Posted by: chloe Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 9:36 PM

  192. "broke my left hand...5th metacarpal fracture...limiting at the moment...especially this typing! "

    BW, how the devil did you do that? Was it from pounding your hand on the table trying to get our horse in front?

    Hope you feel better soon. Fortunately you have Bethy to keep you company in sick bay.

    Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 9:37 PM

  193. just saw steve martin on the Idol show and it looked like he was in the company of some Dirt Band people.......they didnt credit them, what i saw, so I'm not so sure...........

    Posted by: sturgeone Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 9:38 PM

  194. Flatus, I must have missed Blondes post.... ouch!

    Posted by: chloe Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 9:42 PM

  195. Sturge, You sparked my curiosity... he'll also be on Ellen's show.

    "Steve Martin will be performing with his banjo tonight on the American Idol finale program. He’ll be doing one of his songs from The Crow, officially released today (5/20) on Rounder Records."

    Steve will be featuring music from The Crow on television a few more times this next two weeks:

    * May 25 - Ellen DeGeneres Show
    * May 30 - Grand Ole Opry
    * June 2 - Jimmy Fallon Show
    http://www.thebluegrassblog.com/steve-martin-on-idol-finale/

    Posted by: chloe Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 9:47 PM

  196. Bethy
    I'm so sorry about your injury. I wish there was something I could do to help! I hope you heal soon....

    Posted by: tonyb39 Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 9:56 PM

  197. http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/jimmy-hoffa-and-me.html#comment-229452

    patd

    Don't be too hard on Obama for the St. James posting. That ambassadorship almost has to be a multimillionaire just to do the job. The private expenses above and beyond the embassy budget are incredible. I don't like the practice, but right now the US can't afford to increase the Embassy budget. and at 71 let's hope it is "just have a good time, I'll give you someone to do the work."

    A lot would depend on who holds the number two spot given the UK importance in the Middle East.

    Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 10:21 PM

  198. Xrep -

    I had little wire cages on the manifolds on my Chrysler 360 shot hole drills. I made Sloppy Joes and heated the buns.

    Posted by: Colorado Bob Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 10:41 PM

  199. Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 10:46 PM

  200. http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/jimmy-hoffa-and-me.html#comment-229436

    Patd-

    All solar assistance will be of great help, I plan to open publish, on the site everything we do. I want to have people steal my work. I want people to advise my work .

    Here's the site to see the drawings :

    http://cbsolaroven.blogspot.com/

    Here's the fund raising platform :

    https://www.fundable.com/groupactions/groupaction.2009-05-15.2155051577?email=coloradobob1@mac.com

    I'm going to rent this thing to fund raising groups, when I'm not using it.
    The local pledges will have access to it.

    Posted by: Colorado Bob Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 11:02 PM

  201. And someone here has already helped, I can't match screen names to real names , but thanks, and you know who you are.

    Posted by: Colorado Bob Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 11:07 PM

  202. http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/jimmy-hoffa-and-me.html#comment-229454

    Patd, Bethy --

    Do you think there are coincidences? I've learned to think of them as "synchronicity," a term coined by Carl Jung to describe the meeting up of our inner and outer worlds.

    Jungian analyst and professor Jean Shinoda Bolen writes in her book, "Crossing to Avalon," about liminal psychological states during which we are receptive and open to new growth. At these times, it is not unusual for there to be "coincidences between our inner subjective world and outer events." T.S. Eliot wrote, she says, about "the point of intersection of the timeless / with time." It is a "place of poetic sensibility where glimpses of the eternal and ordinary perception overlap."

    Whatever it's called, I say go with it...

    Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 11:13 PM

  203. I have to buy $450.00 of the reflective film . That's 150 sq feet. but my first oven will use maybe 60 feet. That's what I'm fund raising for it.

    Now, off to buy the wheels. Good ones.

    Posted by: Colorado Bob Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 11:16 PM

  204. “The greatness of America lies not in being more enlightened than any other nation, but rather in her ability to repair her faults.” -Tocqueville

    That is a great quote Jamie!

    It is really provides a good perspective on the historal times we face.

    It also speaks to the political troubles of the Grand Old Party. (No not Reagan's - Hannity's.) Many of their tone-deaf and counterproductive actions come from an inability to admit their faults.

    Many of the Bush/Cheney loyalists refuse to pay anymore than lip service to mess this Country has gotten into over the last 8 years following some of the policies these blind partisans still champion.

    But the new conservative generation is not as close-minded as the one currently in power. (They're just greedy and entitled.)

    With up and comers like Paul Ryan, Jindal, Huntsman, Cantor - and yes - do not count out the formidable hockey mom (as much as the left wants you too ; ) - the GOP is down but not out.

    Meghan McCain even provides a glimmer of hope that the Republicans can cut into the Democratic dominance in the youth vote - even though Obama still has it pretty much locked up for 2012. (And don't forget all the loyal supporters crazy old Ron Paul was able to garner this past election.)

    But the old guard is not going to go down without a fight. The "barking class" will never cease to (attempt to) shout down anyone who challenges their power.

    Alexis gave us another insightful take:

    “There are many men of principle in both parties in America, but there is no party of principle.”

    Posted by: warren Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 11:23 PM

  205. Heal quick bethy and blondie!!

    (And you're right bethy - this place is like Lost!)

    Posted by: warren Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 11:45 PM

  206. 5th metacarpal fracture? Sounds like a boxer's fracture to me. Who did you deck Blondie? That turtle? What always gives it away at my joint is that a couple of days later someone comes in with a fractured jaw that they got falling up the stairs. Yeah right.

    Had a busy couple of days. My Warden asked me to come to the annual two day correction's conference being held in town. He invited me just as the lectures were starting. They really think about us in medical a lot. I had just finished a telemedicine clinic and he didn't have to ask me twice since it was being held at one of our local casinos. I dropped my overwhelming patient load for the day and went.

    Good info and I won a $50 gift card for Wally World at the post conference prize drawings. Didn't lose too much in the slots at the lunch break either.

    I paid for that interruption big time today. Whew! But thinking about what I am going to blow that $50 on made it a little easier. Probably something in sporting goods....

    Posted by: ct Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 11:57 PM

  207. Warren -
    PBS ran a Nova on the last shuttle crash. The bottom line on that report :
    "Management behaved as though there were no rules , while holding everyone else to a ridgid protocol."

    I thought, " we can flop that template on every problem we face".

    Posted by: Colorado Bob Author Profile Page | May 20, 2009 11:58 PM

  208. Well, did we find him???

    Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com Author Profile Page | May 21, 2009 12:00 AM

  209. CT -
    Get a fish hook helmet.

    Posted by: Colorado Bob Author Profile Page | May 21, 2009 12:01 AM

  210. I saw the loss of the Challenger.

    Posted by: warren Author Profile Page | May 21, 2009 12:02 AM

  211. Good idea C-bob. If I get any fishing in this weekend I will keep an eye peeled for Jimmy.

    Got my replacement seed today C. One project for the weekend is to come up with a fence for the corn before I plant it again. It will most likely include chicken wire. Hope it is not too late here but late or not it is going in the ground.

    I finished all my yardwork today so it's planting, fence building and fishing scheduled for the weekend and whoopee it is a long one also

    Posted by: ct Author Profile Page | May 21, 2009 12:11 AM

  212. Don't know where that extra sentence fragment came from in my first post. From the ozone layer I suspect.

    Posted by: ct Author Profile Page | May 21, 2009 12:15 AM

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