Actually, the Republicans remind me of my sassafras tree. A bit odd and full of hallucinogen.
Speaking of odd, I was wishing for a good cup or tea of my favorite spring tonic, which is almost impossible to find thanks to the FDA, and two saplings appeared in my back yard.
Yes, that Cheney makes a great garden knome,---- say...let's volunteer him to be that travelling knome from television land...let's send him to a cell in Guantanamo! Since Obama isn't going to get to close the prison/torture chambers any time soon, thanks to his buddy-dems who caved in to the "nimby" complaints of their constituencies, he could stay there a good long while.
What...these chicken-dems don't realize there are prisons all over this great nation, housing murderers and worse , every day? Even Harry Reid surprised me as he wants no part of any terrorists "on US soil."
Dick Durbin? His state hs Marion Federal Prison, along with Stateville Prison, a couple of the worst prisons in the world. What's a few terrorists in chains going to do, bite him? Sheesh.
don1: Someone tagged all our ash trees in City Park with WARNING! ASH BORERS HAVE CONTAMINATES TREES ! DON'T MOVE FIREWOOD.
I tried to make sassafrass tea outta bark...I guess we needed the sap, eh? We were just little kids.
Mom useta make catnip tea, I kid you not! My gawd, it was AWFUL !
Sorry, missed it ivy. I've been hit and miss lately. It's funny, both religion and string theory are starting to coalesce around the notion that perception is reality. So I would agree with your summation.
Haven't made it from scratch yet Dexter. They're too small to make tea right now. They're interesting though, they have three different leaf shapes. And crushed leaves smell like root beer. Amazing how people have been using the tea for centuries and now the FDA has decided it's going to kill us. With the record of the FDA I vote for folk medicine.
I'll leave y'all with this tonight. Dex you can sweep up after it hits the fan.
"College students and faculty members with concealed handgun licenses would be allowed to pack their firearms on campus under a bill that the Senate tentatively approved Tuesday."
Except in University hospitals where it makes the most sense to get shot...where there's immediate help.
"Senators also rejected a provision that would have given parents and students the right choose a dormitory free of firearms. They agreed to one that would ban handguns in polling places and bars on campus, and at regents' meetings."
okay - my radius is fractured/chipped . the doc wasn't a radiologist and told me to check with my doc in a couple of days. I'll also have my bil read the films, whcich they gave to me. From elbow to bottom of fingers is in a splint , just underneath and not on top, so I can ice it. It is so much better immobilized - I'm taking aspirin, my special Ascriptin -it has maalox with it and doesn't bother my stomach. The pain is negligible - it's the annoyance.
The toe and foot are okay, but I'm not sure. that toe is a killer.
I think I can find the poem, Chloe. Ricahrd Bolles is apparently involved in religious and therapeutic works so maybe it was the philosophy that did it for me.
Flatus, yes it did occur to me, when I remembered the
details, that I was in a library that I found that answer. I had forgotten that, but I was probably there looking
for the crossword puzzle from the Sunday NY Times.
I do seek the company of books, esp when discombobulated.
what I want to know is how in the world am I supposed to do crossword puzzles?
Patd - I won't say thaat it was hard to write that. It did bring tears to my eyes remembring how dark dark were those days, but I felt safe doing so. Those days are polar opposite to what I have now, and I am flabbergasted. There is quiite a lesson right there.
The past is the past and I've forgiven myself and just about anybody else.
I occurs to me that I felt safe telling that story for several reasons. One, time has passed. Two, the situation is so improved as to be another world. finally, I don't fear you guys. If you don't want to hear a sad story of mine, I know you'll scroll down or flat ignore, or be embarrassed for me (???). But I also know you guys won't be mean - you're always kind.
Yes, I did see Cbob's post to me. I ahve taken some pix but they're on film. Now I need to get a decent digital camera, and I want one I can plug into the tv, but my sister says it'll have to be an hd tv. I'll get thepix up there.
What I did with my seed is plant them in little pods that staart off flat like adisc and expand when you water them. Then I pushed the seed in and made sure it was covered a little. I did put them on a tray I could plug in sto kkep warm, but didn't do that much.
time to creep off to bed. Thanks for all the well wishes from everyone.
Tip -
The gun nuts are on the march. They're all dead certain Obama's coming after their guns. Bidding up the price of ammo sky high.
I mean crying about the price of bullets when they have 10,000 rounds in the closet.
Boo -
Canon Power Shot 360, or whatever has replaced it. I got mine at Amazon for 85 Bucks. Get a bigger memory card for movies, two sets of rechargeable batteries, and bingo ! Your in the Movie Business .
What would dem Cajuns do without dem leaves of dat sassaras tree to make der gumbo file?
And Craig I love your gardening and cooking videos. I wonder if PBS could find a spot for you, especially that new Create channel I get at Owl camp with my rabbit ears. I just love that channel. It's cooking, crafts, gardening, and travel. Anyone ever watch it? I'm not sure cable carries it.
And I got an email from one of the Dem websites saying they needed my help with health care reform. I wrote back saying, yeah you do. They wanted money. I told them I was short on that but full of good advice.
And also, Bethy I am sorry about your injury also. Man I am going to be awful careful going down my stairs today. Don't things usually come in threes? Anyone else break anything so the rest of us are safe here? Craig? Is it your turn again?
they can't hep it........they can write a 4 page letter with all the loftiest goals and ideals expressed, but at the end of the last page it says: SEND ME MONEY.
just like a damn television evangelist.......send me money.
sturge, caught you... 5:54, 5:57, 6:00... lurking like a spider ready to pounce with a woo hoo
solar, a joke just for you (all the pc police please ignore):
> A
> blonde woman was speeding down the road in her little red
> sports car
> and was pulled over by a woman police officer
> who was also a blonde.
>
> The blonde cop asked to see the blonde
> driver's license. She dug
> through her purse and was getting
> progressively more agitated.
>
> 'What does it look like?' she finally
> asked.
>
> The policewoman replied, 'It's square
> and it has your picture on it.'
>
> The driver finally found a square mirror in
> her purse, looked at it and
> handed it to the policewoman. 'Here it
> is,' she said.
>
> The blonde officer looked at the mirror, then
> handed it back saying,
> 'OK, you can go. I didn't realize you
> were a cop.
I only opened that email from the Dem party because it said, "Carol, I need your voice...." When I tried to give them it, all they really wanted was my money.
Sometimes my water out here looks worse than urine so I drink distilled water. I am trying to come up with something I can build with all the gallon jugs I am accumulating. I nice raft maybe or house boat.
So now the nuts can bring guns into our National Parks so lets go all the way and allow guns into the Congress.
Surly the Repugs wouldn't be afraid of having someone walk in and put a bullet in their head now would they. After all everyone including the Congress and Senate would also be packing so they could defend themselves from any threats against them.
Just think how much more interesting those Congressional and Senate Sessions would be with everyone wondering if there Congressional Opponent would shoot them if they said the wrong thing.
Lets see a Democrat suggest fire arms allowed into their Congress and watch the Repugs scream about safety in their chambers.
Then the Democrats could ask the Repugs why they want gun control in the peoples house and why are they against the NRA who wants everyone to own a assault weapon to protect themselves with.
bw, hope my dumb joke for solar didn't offend you. especially in your hours of pain. if it did, you owe me one when your fighting hand (per ct's diagnosis) heals.
perhaps you and boo can co-post or collaborate during recovery, assuming that y'all's injured extremities are on opposite sides.
That carry your concealed weapon to college is up for a vote in our legislature in La. Our Govenor wants it to pass. I am glad I'm not still teaching at the University or I would have to quit. I used to have to teach the hard stuff and some of my students would get really pissed when they failed a test.
sturge, those c critters live in a parallel universe of anti-matter. iow, it don't matter to them. example their single payer health insurance vs. none for us
Craig- LOVE the video!
Bethy- don't know what a radius is, but I'm sorry you broke it. Get well soon!
Cbob- Don't feel bad, I've had cajun envy for years, you learn to live with it.. Spanish moss, hoo doo, bayous, jazz, cajun music, french with a southern twist, shrimp, beignets, sultry nights and now to add insult to injury Carol's owl camp. As if it wasn't bad enough before.
Wish I could stay here and visit with you all, i do miss you but must go out to my own torturous gardens.
Craig.... ROFL!... even better than last year's garden video.....
trying to play catch-up here....
Bethy and BlondeW... so sorry about your broken bones.... heal fast....
Carol.... had to get my dad to the doctor yesterday... he broke a rib from coughing too hard..... so if TMer's parents count... there's your 3rd one....
of course..... no surprise.... America voted for the christian missionary white bread candidate on American Idol last night.....
The Palin/rose was spot-on & scary. The Pelosi/St. John's Wort was also spot-on & funny! Do you have anything in your garden to make her speak coherently...and less?
Hmmmm, sassafras mead. Now that has has possibilities. I hear mead's a bit bitter though.
They take the safrole out of gumbo file. Now what fun is that?
Seems like the FDA is always protecting us from natural substances that aren't harmful and allowing through harmful drugs that they get paid for testing and protecting. Like l-Tryptophan vs. Prozac
...and today t'key remembered me & I didn't have to sign in/it kept throwing me back to the login yesterday even though the postbox....oh, "machines"
bethyboo - Take care.
C'b - Corn still looks like long blades of grass/not getting any bigger around yet & bending/breaking in the wind. Oh, and you are right about the gun nuts going into hoarding mode. Are we more exposed to it just because we live in Texas?
Ouch RR. Tell your dad I'm sorry. I know how painful those broken ribs are cuz I break one at least a couple times a year just breathing hard. Hope my Forteo starts working soon.
I think we will count your dad in. It protects the rest of us here.
And Sea, it would take just one step out of the house on a summer day for all your cajun envy to disappear. The great out of doors is almost prohibited in the summer.
The problem I have with the natural substances that packagers make medicinal claims for, is that they are marketed as nutrients with absolutely no oversight over efficacy or side effects, and no mandatory, tested adherence to claimed contents.
We are a nation of laws. Every instance of summary 'justice' comes back to haunt us, as it should.
Nuremberg formalized the process that should be followed in crimes against humanity. Whether Cheney's actions rise to that level is a determination I can't make.
Flatus,
Yeah, I'd like testing for purity and percentage. Just not whether or not I can take it. I don't have a lot of trust in doctors. They call it a license to practice for a reason.
Look at how long wine was bad for you, I've now had two doctors tell me to have a glass at least 5 nights a week.
L-Tryptophan was banned just as Prozac came out, but was still allowed in baby formula. Go figure.
Stinky has me by my ear and is dragging me outside to trim trees. Ladder work with a chainsaw. Not smart. But, I have my orders. After that, it's into the shower and then off to the dentist.
Later!
craig, kudos for the crazy crepe myrtle from delaware.
and any offense from comparing chauncy the gardner to craig the gardner should not be taken personally.... the comment has more to do with their followers than the characters themselves.
We are not a nation of laws until investigations and prosecutions if needed are done and those who committed crimes against our constitution and War Crimes are held accountable.
There is more than enough proof in the public domain that Bush\Cheney authorized War Crimes including the illegal invasion of Iraq.
They have denigrated the honor and integrity of the military, the constitution and our country.
And we now have laws on the books that allows one person to determine if you have any rights under what was once our constitution.
The fact of the matter is that no one wants to admit that we are now no different than any other third world dictatorship country ruled not by law but by the acts of a few individuals.
And yes their are many Democrats that are just as guilty as the Republicans and the Bush\Cheney Nazi's.
There are more than a few bad apples in the military today and until they are also purged one day we could end up under military rule.
Not all in the military are bad, however the leaders are and because of that many good Americans have died for oil in a illegal War of Aggression for another countries resources which is the Greatest War Crime of All.
A Crime Against Humanity that's what America has done. I hope your not proud of that, because I'm not.
Gotta run in a few minutes to get an estimate for the insco - good news is I missed the deer. Bad news is, I didn't miss the guardrail. Irony is I was thinking about trading the damn thing - and I may yet.
Bill Press was on fire this morning about the Dem senators voting to keep Gitmo open. He is making sense to me. Wusses. They don't think such vaunted places as Supermax are up to the task of keeping suspected terr'ists until they can be tried and set out to sea to drift until some passing freighter picks them up? I got an idea - let them all be the unarmed crew on a junk freighter passing off the coast of Somalia - we won't hear a word from them for years.
We really have become a nation of frightened wusses. First we're willing to give up all kinds of due process and civil rights because we are scared of terrorists -- scared even of anyone who practices a strange religion or wears a scarf on her head.
Now we're scared because if we close Guantanamo and confine those who really might threaten us in maximum security prisons they might bankroll other terrorist activities (huh? go figure that one out) or 'convert' other criminals to their cause, or bring terrorist special forces into the U.S. to rescue them and let them run rampant on our streets.
So, we've got all these gun nuts with all of their weapons, aren't they able to protect those of us who might like going hunting once in awhile, but don't see the need to keep an AK-47 by our bedstead? What are they going to do with all those guns in National Parks -- except maybe protect us from the terrorists who try to take over Old Faithful
Pogo.... crap!.... hope you're ok.... a car is just a "thing".... although it does come in handy when you need it.... :0)
Ivy.... I forgot to mention that a pair of Indigo Buntings showed up at my feeders a couple days ago... now the families growing up in my yard are complete...
I wish I could send all of you the smell of my front yard... the lilacs are in full bloom and they smell heavenly.... could someone please invent smell-ernet...
RR, chloe, I'm fine (I was just pissed off) - I wasn't even sure I had hit the guardrail until I got out to look. It just did a little customizing of the paint on the right side and reconfiguring the fender.
a-p, on this issue, you may be one of the biggest realists around. I wish could disagree with you. Oh, well.
Joe, I heard one of the gun nuts trying to defend needing to have a gun in parks recanting the raped, murdered, stabbed stuff - and he sounded like a frickin' idiot. He could provide axactly one incident - the central park woman jogger - I'm sure you remember it. Think she would have been packin' heat while she was jogging? I kinda doubt it. This stuff about having guns on college campuses - puhlease. Nothing like mixing youth, inexperience, drugs, alcohol, anger at "unfair" professors and firearms. Hmmmm, what's the worse that could happen? Oh, dead folks. I've said it before and stand by it - Larry Flynt has done more to protect our rights than Wayne LaPierre ever has or will.
Now I ask you, if they can try "Ahmed Ghailani in federal court" so he " finally answers for his alleged role in the bombing of our embassies in Tanzania and Kenya,” [as] Attorney General Eric Holder said in a statement." then why is closing Gitmo and trying the terrorist suspects on whom we actually have evidence such a big fucking deal? Assholes!! (Excuse me, but I am tired of the bullshit).
First, the opposition is involved in this self-fulfilling reason about the danger. It seems - correctly - that people are dismissing the idea that our federal prisons can't hold these people - just like they hold thousands of other dangerous "lifer type" criminals.
So the other argument is that housing these people in US prisons could make those prisons or the communities in which they are located - targets for terrorists who are not in captivity.
I know of no law that would require us to publicly disclose where these prisoners would be held. And if there was - we could change it when dealing with convicted terrorists.
But of course all these NIMBY opponents will probably refuse to shut their mouths and will make a big deal that will draw attention and media coverage to any location that agrees to accept terrorist. Now that is playing politics with America's safety and adding to the precise danger these pols are rallying against.
Second, Obama is taking hits for giving a 1-year timeline. Give me a break. The other option - the usual Washington politics where tough issues are kicked down the road and hard decisions are avoided like the plague. Screw that, Yes this is a tough decision - but if people would quit the grandstanding and focus on the problem - a year is more than enough time to come up with a plan and implement it.
(Perhaps the Republicans could spend more time on this issue and less time trying to rebrand the Dems as socialists...)
Guns might be handy in Southern California Parks because of marijuana growers. In NC just about anyone can get a concealed carry permit. I overheard one person that just got hers asking what a hang fire was. I don't want these people carrying guns. Or in places where alcohol is found.
" dueling speeches would be: "Two Americas"" Used on the Daily Show just last night.
It is ridiculous to argue people would pack heat while jogging. People won't even carry an ipod and pay plenty of cash to get one of the mini ishuffles...
"In a bold and sweeping policy memorandum issued late yesterday, President Obama ... direct[ed] executive branch officials to review every regulation adopted in the past ten years to scrub them of inappropriate preemption language.
"In an assault on federalism and our Constitution, the Bush Administration quietly inserted preemptive language into a number of important regulations in an attempt to favor corporate interests at the expense of state laws protecting their citizens. Yesterday, the Obama Administration recognized that states serve as "laboratories of democracy" and often are the most aggressive defenders of public health, safety, and the environment."
OK, now somebody remind me because my memory isn't what it used to be. WHICH party is the party of a smaller less intrusive federal government? This is so typical I can't stand seeing the McConnells and Boners of the world stand up and speak with straight faces about the Obama administration as trying to enlarge the government.
Newt claims - with righteous indignation - that Pelosi has “disqualified herself” for the leadership spot, because “if I were a person trying to defend this country, I’d have very little confidence that the Speaker of the House had any regard for what we were doing.”
BUT...Newt in on record with:
"The [NIE] is so professionally unworthy, so intellectually indefensible and so fundamentally misleading that it is damaging to our national security."
And Rep. Peter Hoekstra’s (R-MI) - another big blow hard on this issue - made this statement in 2007:
“We cannot have an intelligence community that covers up what it does and then lies to Congress.”
God, warren, I saw the newt on TV last night - when confronted with Hoekstra's 2007 statement, he did verbal origami trying to distinguish those comments from Pelosi's and looked like the fat fool he is. One itty bitty detail that seems to have escaped him is that Pelosi was talking about specific lies she says were told to her by the CIA 5 years BEFORE Hoekstra made his comments - in response to REPUBLICAN criticism of her for approving torture. Jesus H. Christ, what a f*cking idiot. Newt NEEDS to be the voice of the GOP along with Rush - dems need them to be. IMHO the GOP has become like the 15 clowns that pile out of a VW Beetle at Ringling Brothers.
Patsi, I think the pres can indeed do this - he could just veto the legislation and when it comes back up, put a signing statement on it saying that it usurps his power as commander in chief to conduct (not declare) war and prosecute our enemies as part of that effort, have Holder file suit in Fed Dist. Court and let the case matriculate to SCOTUS. In the year or so that it goes forward, he could try the guys who need trials, release the rest onto a junk freighter headed for the Somali coast, and close the damn place. (No, I'm not serious about the specifics, but the trying, releasing and closing part I am dead serious about). Habeus corpus, remember it? It was one of the major motivators, aside from taxes on tea, that moved the founding fathers to give George III the finger.
I used to think that if the GOP thinks their prospects are dim to unseat Obama in 2012 - that they would trot out Palin as the sacrificial lamb. Reasoning that she would at least be willing to take some very tough shots at Obama as she crashes and burns.
But now - it seems that Newt fits the bill even better (and has even less of a political future to sacrifice). He will be willing to trash Obama and the Democrats - and go down in the process. Losing whatever ounce of credibility he has in some quarters of America.
He is the consumate rabble-rouser. And it looks like he is ready to be the hyperbolic, hypocritical master of misinformation for the GOP in 2012. Should be fun!
Quick, everyone, check under your beds. See, this is why the BS about Gitmo doesn't make sense. There is no evidence that the Gitmo guys would make us less safe if in prison in the US, and regardless of what is done at Gitmo, we are not made safe from the threat of terror plots by keeping folks from halfway across the globe in prision in Cuba. And does anyone see any mention of getting info about this plot by detaining and torturing the folks involved in planning it? I can't seem to find any such reference. These dots really aren't that hard to connect.
btw, what is el presidente saying? Not being able to get streaming video or audio, I'm kinda in the dark.
I think Obama closing Gitmo unilaterally would be a big mistake.
First, he would draw the inevitable comparisons to Bush in that he is expanding executive power.
Second, the move would generate such controversy that it would detract and distract from the symbolic gesture that is closing down Gitmo. (Indeed, the symbolism is one of the major benefits of the closure.)
I think he just needs to continue to press his case as he is doing today. Point out that a supermajority of Americans (including McCain, Gates, etc.) all agree that this is the right thing to do. And call on Congress to help get it done instead of playing politics with the issue.
warren, I don't claim to have a monopoly on what is the right and wrong thing to do, just my own stupid opinions. I think the obvious way to shut gitmo is to try the people we are housing there and dispose of them (as in disposition rather than discard). Obama can continue to make the points you suggest while that process goes forward. Frankly, I do see a constitutional conflict in that law, at least as I understand it, and I would veto it in a heartbeat were I he.
"hyperbolic, hypocritical master of misinformation for the GOP" RFLMFAO The competition for that title will be fierce - there are just so many contestants...
Pogo, you must be referring to all the new faces of the new GOP. What a great up and coming crew it is. Cheney, Rove, Gringrich, Thompson and Lott.
I saw everyone of those guys being interviewed on FOX yesterday . . Hey, I was channel surfing! Oh, I forgot, I saw a story talking about a fellow named Rumsfeld too.
Obama is a politician before he is a Constitutional scholar. Only those who are able to freely pontificate in the theoretical world of a class room or a lecture hall can truly be pure scholars...
What is the status of the argument that Guantanamo is a U.S. territory and, therefore, the detainees are already on U.S. soil? Seems to me the NIMBY people would want to pull up that old chestnut.
Terrific comments about torture and Gitmo on pages 2 & 3. And talk about stick it to Bush - on the release of 2/3 of the Gitmo detainees. Can't wait to hear the dark lord respond to this. (And I won't be able to get Burgess Meredith's Penguin out of my head as he does).
I don't see why the President needs to close Gitmo. Can't he just transfer the prisoners somewhere else by executive order ... say at least a 100 to that max security prison on Olbermann last night?
Cheney is just babbling the same tired crud including Sadaam had prove "relationships" with terrorists. Water Board is not torture. The information we got was worth the method ... blah blah gag gag. Somebody PLEASE arrest this man. He is a sociopath who still believes in his righteous mission to injure others. No one will change his mind and like the terrorists he tortured belongs where he can not damage others.
Ivy, I'm not sure it is technically a U.S. territory. According to Wiki (the fount of all knowledge) it is under US territorial control pursuant to a perpetual lease as a result of the 1903 Cuban-American Treaty. Someone with more knowledge than I have about treaties, international leases, territorial jurisdiction and the like would have to opine about the legal status of Gitmo as a US territory.
From Wiki:
"The U.S. government obtained a 99-year lease that began on February 23, 1903, from Tomás Estrada Palma, a Cuban-born citizen, who became the first President of Cuba. The newly-formed American protectorate incorporated the Platt Amendment in the Cuban Constitution. The Cuban-American Treaty held, among other things, that the United States, for the purposes of operating coaling and naval stations, has "complete jurisdiction and control" of the Guantánamo Bay, while the Republic of Cuba is recognized to retain ultimate sovereignty."
And the rest of the story...
" 1934 the Avery Porko treaty reaffirming the lease granted Cuba and its trading partners free access through the bay; modified the lease payment from $2,000 in U.S. gold coins per year, to the 1934 equivalent value of $3,085 in U.S. dollars; and made the lease permanent unless both governments agreed to break it, or the U.S. abandoned the base property. Since the Cuban Revolution, the government under Fidel Castro has cashed only one of the rent checks from the U.S. government, and only because of confusion in 1959 in the heady early days of the leftist revolution. The remaining uncashed checks made out to "Treasurer General of the Republic" (a position that ceased to exist after the revolution) are kept in Castro's office stuffed into a desk drawer. The United States argues that the cashing of the single check signifies Havana's ratification of the lease — and that ratification by the new government renders moot any questions about violations of sovereignty and illegal military occupation.[citation needed] It is countered, however, that the 1903 and 1934 lease agreements were imposed on Cuba under duress and are unequal treaties, no longer compatible with modern international law, and voidable ex nunc pursuant to articles 60, 62, and 64 of the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties."
Rez, I was referring mostly to Cheney, Limpballs and Palin, but those you mentioned will likely file their candidcacy papers to seek the title as well. And PLEASE, let's not forget Michelle Bachman, Bobby Jindal and Eric Cantor. I'm sure that they aren't happy with the new face of the GOP (Steele) either.
My argument is simply this - had the incompetent bozos of Bushworld done their f*cking jobs instead of getting their jollies letting "contractors" torture our Gitmo guests, they would reviewed what evidence they actually had and would have determined who was and was not engaged in activity against us before they were rounded up by ME bounty hunters and wisked away to Gitmo ,and they wouldn't have let the 7th prisoner go but would have convicted and jailed him. This report does not IMHO reflect badly on the release of prisoners in general as much as it provides specific evidence, yet one more time, on the wholly unbelievable lack of competence in the conduct of the wawhonterra by Bushco.
"liminal psychological states during which we are receptive and open to new growth. At these times, it is not unusual for there to be "coincidences between our inner subjective world and outer events.... glimpses of the eternal and ordinary perception overlap." http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/jimmy-hoffa-and-me.html#comment-229469
Ivy,
Just catching up with last nights posts, and I found that post of yours that I linked above very interesting.. I think you hit the 'coincidence' thing on the head (so to speak). They are transitional points that we experience - or go through - and I, for one, always feel best when I'm in one of them. However, it always feels like something familiar and comfortable is being left behind. Well, so be it, it's always about trade offs.
I guess it's nothing more than changing our mind, and creating the circumstances to fit our new thinking. Anyway, thanks for the point you made.
"Sometimes my water out here looks worse than urine so I drink distilled water."
Oh, and Carol, I know you won't be around until the evening, but why distilled water instead of spring water? I'm just curious (especially since you're in the medical field, and know a lot more than I do). My thinking has been you get more of the natural minerals, etc. in the spring water. (?)
Corey....
YES!.... Big Papi finally hit a big one!.... actually, his was one of 4 Red Sox home runs hit in one inning..... Fenway erupted like he'd just hit a walkoff homer in the 7th game of the World Series..... Rick and I kept going back and forth between the game and AI.... glad we caught it.....
I haven't watched hockey in years..... but my parents told me the Bruins were eliminated last week..... if your Red Wings are still in it.... I hope they go all the way....
Thanks for the link, warren - I, too, don't agree with Cheney. I don't agree with the premises of his statements - nuclear torrorists indeed, what bullshit - where has there been one shred of evidence that any terrorists have that capability? - and would remind him that the brushcutter's "comprehensive strategy" apparently did not include reading the DPBs and paying attention to what they said.
I believe he's just trying to taunt Obama into releassing some memos he recalls seeing that said so and so said such and such after we made him think he was going to die. Considering where he chose to make his rebuttal from, and the fact that he has been identified as the source of the torture directive and that it was used to gin up, ex post facto, an imaginary link between Saddam and al Qaeda to justify a bullshit war, what else would we expect than an apparently strong defense of the indefensible. He's presented compelling defenses of actions based on nothing in the past, so it's nothing more than certainty in the face of evidence only to the contrary once again. If America buys his bullshit again they are even dumber than I give them credit for. I am not surprised that he presented only a favorable slant to the facts as he would have them appear - it's his MO.
"The vice president was as emphatic as ever in his defense of the most controversial Bush administration policies. Interrogators' use of waterboarding, he insisted, was not only lawful but "skillful" and "entirely honorable."
"Critics of Cheney reacted harshly to the address. Speaking on MSNBC, former CIA special agent Jack Rice described the vice president has having "wrap[ped] himself in the flag with the Constitution in tatters at his feet." Lawrence O'Donnell called the speech "as sleazy a presentation from a vice president as we've had since Spiro Agnew. It was a complete abomination."
I need to read the text of the speech, but I'm guessing that sums it up pretty well since it's wholly consistent with the Magical History Tour he's been on of late.(My apologies to Lennon & McCartney).
"The key to any strategy is accurate intelligence, and skilled professionals to get that information in time to use it. In seeking to guard this nation against the threat of catastrophic violence, our Administration gave intelligence officers the tools and lawful authority they needed to gain vital information. We didn't invent that authority. It is drawn from Article Two of the Constitution. And it was given specificity by the Congress after 9/11, in a Joint Resolution authorizing "all necessary and appropriate force" to protect the American people."
Really? Seems to me there was a prett fricking specific warning given directly to shrub in a Presidential Daily Briefing, specifying OBL and his plans to hit the US that was dismissed as too, ummm what was the word - vague? Nonspecific? I forget. Maybe they wanted flight numbers before they would actually try to do anything. Slam dunk. Give Medals of Freedom. The JR was for the use of military force, not for the employment of torture, and show me one place in Article II that mentions interrogation techniques and I might buy it - MIGHT. But then unlike dick, I have read Article II. This is the stuff that sounds just peachy, but doesn't hold up to even a modicum of scrutiny.
11:42 AM ... I think the truest read on Cheney is his cutting and snide anger contrasted with his history of personal cowardice, ducking service in the Vietnam war he himself vociferously supported. Fear and anger are his defining emotions.
Greetings from the 2012 Iowa Republican Presidential Campaign Bus... (BTW, CG gets a nice plug here)...
"The Iowa Republican has learned that Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour is coming to Des Moines to headline an event for the Republican Party of Iowa. Just yesterday, Congressional Quarterly had an article saying that Barbour will not rule out a 2012 presidential run.
Barbour’s visit to Iowa means yet another potential presidential candidate is making his way to Iowa. Since the last general election, Bobby Jindal, Mike Huckabee, and George Pataki have all traveled to the Hawkeye state. Nevada Senator John Ensign is scheduled to be in northwest Iowa on June 1st to headline the American Future Fund’s conservative lecture series.
In addition to Ensign, Mike Huckabee will be back in Iowa on June 10th to speak at the Iowa Association of Business and Industry Annual Conference, and he will also headline a fundraiser for Republican gubernatorial candidate Bob Vander Plaats."
jamie, we are a nation of laws.... he gets a trial first, that is after a few years as a non-combatant toxic plant flooded with water to expose his roots and fellow travelers... but be careful where you toss him,craig. nimby.
pogo, it was my understanding that only the infamous prison/detention part of guantanamo was to close.... never the base itself. imho they'd be nuts to let such a strategic site a gitmo go.
gol dangit, cbob, git yer ass out'n that thar chair and git to work.... thur's stuff to buy and bucks to buy it with... no lolly-gaggin and tear jerkin today around the ole tm cracker barrel for you pardner. git!
pat, that is my understanding as well, but by bringing Gitmo up as a US territory, I thought I'd look at what it actually is. And the answer is less than clear. From what I can tell, essentially, we are boarders.
1. Pogo, Thanks for the O'Donnell video. Thank goodness he held back. What on earth does Andrea Greenspan ever bring to ANY conversation, besides someone else's limp and chancred excuses? What possesses MSNBC to employ the pro-hitler, pro-franco, pro-mussolini, pro-tojo, holocast and rape of Nanking denier, and "pro-conventional morals" pat buchanan ??? Also, didn't uberpimp kristol also refer to his pals jack abramov, tom delay, stupor libby, and randy cunningham as mature, responsible, and thoughtful ?
2. Speedy recoveries to Bethyboo and Blonde Wino, and all the other Trail planters who are ailing.
3. Flatus, Please, don't go climbing trees w/ chainsaws. That is a "Kids, don't try this at home" action, if there ever was one. At least, borrow a cherry picker. Pretty please. And, thanks for clearing up the matter about the Korean Divisions in Viet Nam a few days back. I had forgotten that there were 2 of them. We used to say they were as hard as ROKs. Lame, but it passed for wit back then, back there.
4. CBob, You mentioned yesterday that you wanted "to boil 100 ears at a time." Would it be more efficient to just steam them, so you wouldn't have to push many heavy gallons of water around? Or, would there be a difference in the product quality?
5. ripuplicans 2012 Dream Ticket Update : m. bachmann for Prez and Ditz-in-Chief, dreck cheney for Veep and Grand Inquisitor. Strategy : The world needs more fear and pain, subtexts : torture and Republican Depression nostalgia, Programs : deregulate sadism and make every non-billionaire destitute, taglines : "Unleash John Yoo" and "No dollars left behind".
It's Thursday - soccer practice for LP - so I'll be running along. But for warren (who disagrees with Cheney) and others who thought Cheney made a strong defense of Bush practices - including torture - I'll leave you with and excellent IMHO piece by Elizabeth Holtzman - one of those left wing pinko sympathizer former PROSECUTORs about the simple fact that the Constitution - that largely ignored document in this stupid defense of torture on the basis of it being efficacious - prohibits it. There's this little clause banning "cruel and unusual punishment" (read "torture" here).
"The FBI rejected torture, our Constitution bans it, and we have ratified the Geneva Conventions as the law of our land, not because we are nation of wimps or bleeding hearts. Unlike former Vice President Cheney, who ran from the Vietnam War, and former President George Bush, who never saw a day of combat in his life, those who wrote the Bill of Rights fought a bloody revolution to win their independence from Britain. They weren't afraid to fight hard to create and keep this country. They rejected torture not out of weakness, but out of strength."
"They weren't interested in any specious claim of torture's efficacy; they knew that torture produced unreliable information. They also knew that forcing people to incriminate themselves was a slippery slope. Once torture was condoned in one case, it would become irresistible in other cases, particularly involving political opponents, religious dissidents and the like. Above all, they knew torture was inimical to the conception of human dignity that underlay our constitutional framework, so they adopted a granite opposition to it."
So when Cheney the Chickenshit stands up and tells how much of a patriot he and his fellow chikenshit Dumya and all the brave lawyers who somehow missed that little clause in their analysis (nevermind the Geneva Conventions which btw are also part of our laws) when they said torture is Okey dokey and the CIA operatives who tortured people were, remember what they had to ignore to go there and remember to IGNORE THEM.
Actually, it was the Tiger Division that got there first, in the Fall of '65. The White Horse was the one I watched hit the beach in the Spring of '66. As we both know, they were two magnificent infantry divisions. Where were you at back then?
OK Chloe, here are my thoughts on the distilled water issue and they could be flawed so you guys feel free to blow them out of the water. Pardon the pun.
From what I understand there aren't a lot of regulations on the water they sell you. I guess they could be filling up those jugs from the septic tank but I avoid buying any brown water. Certainly they could be filling them up from the city water supply, called a Spring, somewhere where the water aint that good.
With distilled water, it is used for batteries, some irons and other stuff that needs to have pretty much everything out of it so it doesn't conduct electricity. I am hoping it is less likely to have chemicals in it. But the plastic container may be leaching it's own chemicals into the water so you can't win.
Most water sold may end up having a higher bacteria count since there is no chlorine to kill it. Just have to assume that and hope it boosts your immune system.
I safely did my chores this morning. Just barely. I made sure Stinky was nowhere near the ladder--that she was at least fifty feet away in a direction where I could see what she was doing.
I attacked two trees; a maple and an oak. I lost control of the ladder trying to set it aside the maple. I let the ladder fall where it wanted. The damned thing is heavy--one of those extra heavy-duty 24-foot fiberglass things designed for a working weight of 300-lbs.
I managed to get the thing up and removed the limbs I needed to. The work on the oak tree was uneventful. Then I had to cleanup the entire mess.
The job, including many breaks, took about 2-hours. As I finished, the recyclable yard waste truck arrived and i helped the two county contractors load the stuff on. (I saved stuff large enough for the fireplace.)
When I got back into the house the phone was ringing. It was the dentist's office. "Mr Ohlfahrt, are you okay? We were so worried when you weren't here for your appointment." It was of course for 0950 when I thought it was 1050. They said, alright come as soon as you can, but don't rush. I told them I'd be there as soon as I took a shower.
I was 45-minutes late, the first time I've been late for any set time in fifty years. (Not going to meetings that I had no intention of attending doesn't count as being late.) When I arrived, everyone once again expressed their relief that I was okay. And, all this :"relief" was before they knew why I was late.
The doc and her assistant worked through their lunch hour taking care of this old fool.
I got home, ate my raisin bran, and took a two hour nap. I just got inside after round two of chores. This time, though, they were all done at ground level.
Whew Flatus, You had me worried for a minute. My heart raced when I read "lost control of my ladder..." and then again when you wrote "...including many breaks...". Be careful what you wrote man. We are all getting old and can't take that kind of stress here.
elizabeth edwards was on diane rehm show today but i only heard a few minutes of it... those few were really good. anybody catch the whole thing? how was it in toto? did she say what's next on her agenda other than book tour interviews and cancer treatments? really fine lady.
Thank God Flatus that Stinky is around and I hope she keeps her cellphone on her. Ever since I fell down my stairs and smashed three vertebrae, I keep my cellphone in my pocket when I go down the stairs.
It was a miracle that I had a friend spend the night the day I took my spill. It is very rare that someone is here at that time of the morning. I think it was actually a miracle. Otherwise a gator could have got me before someone found me.
patd....
I only caught the last 10 minutes of it..... Elizabeth Edwards told D. Rehm that she is running her own little furniture store..... something that is just her's and not her's and John's.....
didn't say what kind of furniture.... there wasn't time to discuss it....
wish I had heard the whole thing.... but my time isn't much my own at the moment....
While Republicans continue to demand that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi apologize for accusing the CIA of lying, or even step down, it turns out that the Republican who has been inciting the anti-Pelosi crusade himself accused the CIA of a coverup and lying to Congress just last year.
Rep. Peter Hoekstra, the top Republican on the House Intelligence Committee who called Pelosi's charges against the CIA "outrageous" earlier this week, said this about the CIA just last November:
Well I caught my breath so it's off for afternoon chores. Will check in later and try to keep my thoughts to myself more. I can see you rolling your eyes at me Warren.
Listening to the right wing commentators today with all the "can't have them here" ... "ACLU will turn them lose" terror, terror, terror. They have all caught a severe case of cowardice from Cheney and company.
Hallmark of the bully - Everything and anything different sscares the beejesus out of them.
I am relieved Mr. Ohlfahrt was not relieved. I skimmed the sentence too fast while catching up on the thread, and I read it as "lost control of my bladder."
Oh c'mon Warren, at least a couple of time, huh? I certainly can't speak politics as well as ya'll do and you have caught me with my dumb on a few times.
And Flatus I got one of those ladder I think you are talking about. It weighs so much that I can't even move it to put it away. It's open in the back of the room and I use it as my holiday tree. I wrap it with the appropriate colored tinsel for each special occasion. Not kidding.
XR - "chancre'd excuses" ??? a little graphic,
doncha think? LOL
Buford - I agree - we do have a grand variety in our garden.
Flatus - I was on my way to vote even when I thought it was a waste of effort. The doc at the urgent care facility
was impressed - he voted too and the same way I did.
Said to wait for the cuts to come and see what people say then.
I'm pretty sure BW is hurting more than I. Mine is just a small break on the radius down by my wrist - it's the other bone in your forearm than the ulna. Pain is really no longer worth noticing - aspirin is all. Course I want the film to be read by a radiologist, but that's just a precaution.
I learned that brushing my teeth with my left hand is
easier than I expected but I didn't even try putting on make-up - they're used to grisly sites - they're medical people. The one thing that almost stymied me was taking off and putting on the delightful invention of the bra - it gave me greater appreciation of old boyfriends.
Flatus - the idea of taking a chain saw up a ladder ranks up there with a local man, father of my niece's friend, who set the heels of the ladder in a wheelbarrow. Hard to have sympathy for his broken leg. I also thought it was a bladdermistake at first.
Last word re my sad post yesterday - I posted it very matter-of-factly, not feeling sad. The important thing was the poem.
Me 'n hubs enjoyed watching that Johnny Guitar clip. What fingers! Thank you.
Hubs is feeling good this evening 'cuz at his lesson today, he discovered a musical error in a published transcription ("Guitar World") of a Jimi Hendrix song titled "Red House." To him, that means he's reading and finally understanding the MUSIC.
Bethy, you'll of course remember how I mangled your moniker shortly after you appeared here. Thanks for finally getting back via my bladder. We're even :)
Carol and Ivy, stop having so much enjoyment at my expense. :) But, to be honest, Uncle Arthur was kicking my butt this afternoon.
And Flatus, to answer one of your earlier questions today...my insurance only approved the Forteo for a year, as of now. I don't really think ahead even that far so I don't know what I'll be doing then.
With that black box warning on the Forteo..."osteosarcoma"... I may not have that long. I had to decide whether I wanted to be held up by bone dust or risk the bone cancer to have a little stronger skeletal support system. I took the risk of cancer, kills ya quicker and saves all that money wasted on a nursing home and the misery sitting all hunched up on my Hoveround.
I must say it was nice in the garden and the woods today. Walked out on T-RexVP's speech and stayed out there all day, even when it started to drizzle.
You know what plants are cool? Ferns. I found some growing "wild" in the woods, sub-divided a few, and transplanted them to the garden. I figured if the deer are leaving these specimens unmolested in the woods, they will be safe in my garden too.
Baltasar Garzón from Spain is after him. He can run, but he can't hide. Why doesn't he just STFU? It's cause he thinks he can talk his way outta this. Fool.
"Spanish Court Weighs Inquiry on Torture for 6 Bush-Era Officials "
Second, even though the potential for osteosarcoma was demonstrated in rodents, so far there is no documented incidence in humans.
So, that makes the most important thing whether or not it works. For that, I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you.
Leave your ladder in the larder. Or, put it on Craig's List. Next time I'll do the job on a weekend and, hopefully, my yard will be full of volunteers eager to break their necks rather than cleaning up after I do mine.
I agree Cheney is scared, and I think his bluster is to keep his public behind him, and I think it's working on them. I doubt he will ever change minds, but he will bolster the others - too bad. If he goes silent, the rest will lose some fight in themselves.
Didn't anybody like my line about my old boyfriends skill at undoing bras? I thought it was funny especially because that thought did enter my mind while I was struggling - I thought that guys must have really practiced. You know, that was one of the tests on Monty Python's Twit of the Year contest - how long did it take to get a bra un-done? Oh, well..........
Thanks again for all the good wishes. I just managed a trip to the library and safeway,driving myself. It was okay but I'd prefer 2 hands.
Flatus, I took some advice Solar gave me a while back and hired some young 16 year old guys to help out with my yardwork the last two weekends. It didn't work out very well.
When I was young I created a monster of a yard to take care of. It used to be fun but now it's way too much work.
The two teenagers couldn't even keep up with me at 58, puny and broken down. It actually slowed me down trying to get them to do something. One was a football player so I thought he could handle the heat and intensity of the labor. He brought along a pretty boy whose father had just bought him a new Tacoma the day before.
They both folded after two and a half hours of mostly breaks. I was paying them each 10 bucks an hour. The second weekend I was going to tell the football player's mom I didn't need them but she said her son would bring along another football player so I said OK.
They actually did less work and didn't listen to a thing I asked. I told them not to weed eat where the stuff would get in the pool and I looked over after a few minutes and the entire surface of the pool was covered with leaves and grass. I had just got the damn thing cleaned out after fighting it all Fall, Winter and Spring. They didn't even notice.
They were very entertaining and it was fun having their youth around but I physically can't afford any more work.
I'm glad you enjoyed my "coincidence" post. I hope I gave appropriate credit to the author of "Crossing to Avalon," Jean Shinoda Bolen. I love her books and that was the first one I read.
44th Medical Command. Saigon. In 70 they moved to Long Bihn, but I was long gone. I got some side trips to places around III Corps. If I was a good boy, Cam Rahn Bay or Nha Trang. If I was a bad boy, the hills above Tuy Hoa.
The experience combined with my genetic code and family culture to make me gloomy, nasty, and anti-social for a decade. Other guys boozed, smoked dope, and slept a lot. I drank coffee, smoked Camels, and stayed awake all the time.
I don't think that dreck cheney is mouthing off cuz he's scared. The constant cheney, hoekstra, newt, boehner, rush, hannity, savage avalanche of fear mongering, blusterfication, and bushlit is all Big Ugly Frogging. It is all done just to keep people from noticing that the republicans in Congress are doing everything they can to prevent the Dems from fixing everything the ripuplicans broke. ripuplicans would rather see the USA descend into hell than be shown to have been totally incompetent and corrupt.
Ivy - sounds to me that it refers to scotch broom which is apparently a nuisance plant out here - yellow flowers and takes over very quickly. If that's what it is, the poem seems kinda ironic.
Bethy, I think that's the plant - there a drawing in the book of a yellow-flowered plant, labeled Common Broom.
I googled the author and found a wiki link to the book. I had no idea it was well-known and popular enough to inspire a TV show. It was a musty thing I had to treat with talcum powder to rid it of the "old book smell" - a tip I got from the antiques dealer in lieu of a markdown. Turned out to work reasonably well and I've since used it on other old books.
Ivy - what a neat idea for "cleaning" up old books - makes sense.
that is a pretty flower and I'm not sure whether it's a pest out here. It seems to me I've been told it's invasive but my sister just failed to remember . Maybe KGC will know.
Here's another one of those moments. I found a poem in old old book at a friends house. It was printed at the beginning of a chapter. It's my favorite way of looking at life and has been very instrumental in teaching me how to react. I've decided that just about your whole life is decided by how you react.
Now I'm going to cheat and put it off till tomorrow. My hand is getting really tired of typing like this.
I look forward to your poem tomorrow. This blog may be due for a poetry day...I hope Craig agrees... if not, well, I guess we'll have to apply for a poetic license.
Nha Trang? xrepublican, I lived there for almost a year, 575th Med Det, 6th Convalescent Center, Camp McDermott, USArmy, near the Air Force base, which was the NHA airport for a long time but is now non-operational.
I worked closely with the 283 Dustoff medic helicopter crews, also. 1970 and 1971.
Here is the weed I spent part of my day eradicating. Almost as bad as kudzu which thankfully is not in my yard. But this Roundleaf Greenbriar thorny parasite weed is here - it will wrap itself around a host tree and eventually choke it to death. I am fairly ahead of it after 4 years of pulling, but it will sneak back as soon as it thinks I'm not looking. Not even supposed to be this far south, but it can't read either.
"Oh no. Now I know how W felt when Dick Cheney was in the bathroom and the generals needed to know whether to push that button now. There was only one option. I had to stall."
Up every mornin just to keep a job
I gotta fight my way through the hustling mob
Sounds of the city poundin in my brain
While another day goes down the drain
But its a five oclock world when the whistle blows
No one owns a piece of my time
And theres a five oclock me inside my clothes
Thinkin that the world looks fine, yeah
Tradin my time for the pay I get
Livin on money that I aint made yet
Ive been goin tryin to make my way
While I live for the end of the day
Cuz its a five oclock world when the whistle blows
No one owns a piece of my time, and
Theres a long-haired girl who waits, I know
To ease my troubled mind, yeah
oh my lady, yeah
oh my lady, yeah
In the shelter of her arms everythings OK
When she talks then the world goes slippin away
And I know the reason I can still go on
When every other reason is gone,
In my five oclock world she waits for me
Nothing else matters at all
Cuz every time my baby smiles at me
I know thats its all worthwhile,
yeah oh my lady,
yeah oh my lady, yeah, fade........
xrepublican -
We boil, we steam , we roast, & we bake. I'm makin' 400 degrees at noon, on wheels. And that's the twist. The wheels let me point the oven at the sun at 9:00 A.M. to preheat, by 10, I'm cooking. Every 20 min. , you move the thing , just a bit.
I can't wait to start using it. I've raised $490 in 5 days, it's just unbelievable . Everyone else wants to see the son-of-a-bitch run too.
Rez.......in your late night travels with Charlie (pride) did you ever hear anything about that grass cutting story? it's a nice story, it'd be even nicer if it's true.........
Californians rejection of any new state taxes should
be a warning to washington that there is a limit to
their tax and spend'' then spend more policies''
especially the democrats since they are in control now'
I guess we had the country pretty well covered. I was with the 184th Ord Bn in QuiNhon. We took care of the ammo for the 1st Cav and the 4th ID. When they were mounting an operation we would have the ammo waiting for them.
When I went to Vietnam at the end of '65 I expected it to be much like Korea. It wasn't. Indeed, they seemed like polar opposites. The greatest major difference I can think of to account for the difference was the French colonization of the country.
The officer leadership was terrible (with a couple of notable exceptions). So self-serving and so bad that I took a discharge when I got back to the States and enlisted in the AF. It was much better in the sense that our mission was better defined and we were more focused.
In any case, I was never more happy to leave any place than Vietnam. When I left, a runner came to my tent at 1300 and told me I was leaving on an airplane at 1600. My orders would be waiting in the orderly room. Well, I had two hours to spare.
It was really nice when I got back to Cleveland and there was Stinky, waiting on the ramp. Really, really nice.
"With Alaskans facing the highest energy prices in the nation, it's disappointing that our governor is turning thumbs down on federal funding that could help our families and communities reduce their energy bills..."
Oh Ivy, that weed you linked is all over this area along with a million others. Right now I am having a time with those burrs. Don't know the official name but every time I take Maggie for a walk we go round and round trying to get them out of her hair.
If I have to get close to her face to nab one, she shows me her teeth. I just laugh and tell her that them little choppers aren't going to intimidate me.
When I can't pull them out I have to cut them out and Maggie is starting to look like she had a fight with a lawn mower. It's her punk look.
ct, next time negotiate a set price for the job... they do it alone, take their sweet time or can bring in the whole team and finish in half hour.... either way you've got the job done without the irritation of cracking a whip.
Pat, I thought about that but there are too many things they can destroy out there and telling them ahead of time didn't work.
I had them using my 30 year old Sears weed wacker. It can take down a house, cut plastic pipe and wiring. The last guy who used it did take out a good bit of siding on the house.
They also wouldn't know the good plants from the weeds. Even with me watching they screwed up the pool as I turned my head for just a minute.
Oh, and they didn't want to get dirty. They were in shorts and short sleeves and pulling some weeds out of a little fish pond I made. One watched as the other was trying to keep his hand clean. I asked if they were planning on wearing the same clothes to go out on a date that night?
I had to finally say lets move on and there's a bucket still sitting in the little pond. I will have to tackle that myself since I am not allergic to mud.
Evidently they don't make kids like they used to. I was in my 30s helping my stepfather cut some rice one summer and when I got thru, I was so dirty that I had to smile so you could see the whites of my teeth. The AC on that big machine was broken.
Ivy, Given the heart shaped leaves and the fact that it winds itself around a tree and chokes it to death, it isn't comforting to know it is also called "The Love Vine"
Carol, having a kid and having been one, and knowing a lot of kids as a result, I can say with some certainty that they still make kids like they used to, there just aren't as many as there used to be that don't mind hard, dirty work. I attribute it to play that is too clean and organized instead of the old go out and see what the woods have to offer approach. For enough money some kids will do about anything.
Well, I really am not hearing many vigorous defenses of Cheney's rebuttal yesterday beyond the predictable supporters, but then again I don't listen to"conservative" infotainment. I did stumble across Keith Olberman responding to Cheney's speech while I was surfing last night, and I gotta give Keith credit for that one. Even David Brooks is not giving Cheney's speech much support, and pointed out that Cheney lost in thepolicy wars - to Condi Rice.
Here's a link to an interesting article in the New Republic by Jack Goldsmith, a former Bushco Asst. AG. It's pretty long and detailed, and I haven't absorbed all of it yet, but i appears to be worth the read.
when i was a kid and we'd ride around on christmas day sometimes, the streets were full of kids........space suits, cowboy outfits, roller skates, bicycles, etc........now if one rides around on christmas day, it's like a ghost town out there........
Colorado Bob's Solar Oven $550 goal
$610.00 secured Goal met. Pledges are still being accepted until deadline. Time Left:
20 days 14 hours 47 min. 35 sec.
POLITICO’s Carrie Budoff Brown has a nine-page “interested parties” memo (our favorite kind) from PAUL BEGALA on “COUNTERING REPUBLICAN ORWELLIAN RHETORIC ON HEALTH CARE”: “Veteran Republican pollster Frank Luntz has circulated a memo which attempts to teach Republicans how to kill health care reform by misleading people. Because they know they cannot win the argument honestly, Republicans are resorting to mendacity. Democrats must not let them get away with it. … When Republicans repeat the Luntz talking point that our plan will deny treatment and increase waiting, we should say: ‘Every day, insurance companies deny people care. As health care costs keep rising, it will only get worse. And yet the Republicans are committed to a system that puts profits ahead of people. That’s why they oppose Pres. Obama’s reforms and why they have no reform plan of their own. Our plan reduces costs, increases access, and protects choice.’ … When Republicans repeat the Luntz talking point that they’re really for reform, we should say: ‘Their plan is the status quo. Their plan is rising costs.’ … Do not let the Republicans kill reform by co-opting our message. When they repeat their talking points, you must punch holes in them. I hope this memo helps empower you to do so.”
flatus, of course I live in a glass house - with a kid who is into every frickin' sport, plus his band, and who has to be steamrolled into calling his buddies to just hang out when he doesn't have this game or that practice scheduled. At least he does have and love to ride his bicycle.
sturg, those were the days, my friend (hmm, I think there may be a song in there somewhere). Yep, I have to laugh - we ran across a box of photos that had been stuck in a drawe when we moved, and there was a photo fo LP on Christmas morning when he was 5, dressed in his "Woody" cowboy outfit, complete with guns, riding his new bicycle. It coulda been from 50 years ago and been me in my Roy Rogers outfit on my new bike on Christmas morning.
Won't a government run heathcare plan present a huge cost savings by paying its administrators and employees salaries that are far less than those paid in the private sector.
"Regarding insurance agent commissions, we reported in the story that Blue Cross paid out $15 million in sales commissions last year, or 3 percent of the entire premium dollar collected from customers."
patd - I was writing my post before I had even read yours. I makes perfect sense to me that huge profits that usually go to health insurance CEO's and bigwigs can be passed on as savings to patients under a public plan.
McClatchey was not persuaded by Cheney - finding that his speech contained omissions, exaggeratons, and misstatements. Gee, who could have ever guessed that Cheney might be less than completely candid?
"A top-secret 2004 CIA inspector general's investigation found no conclusive proof that information gained from aggressive interrogations helped thwart any "specific imminent attacks," according to one of four top-secret Bush-era memos that the Justice Department released last month.
"FBI Director Mueller Robert Muller told Vanity Fair magazine in December that he didn't think that the techniques disrupted any attacks."
I don't suppose that 2004 CIA AG report is one of the documents Cheney wanted released.
Thanks for the Email,,,you have one now also. Going to a Sunday show this holiday weekend,,,Is M,,a holiday?
PAt,,,,,,,thanks for that Blondy joke,,,,I liked it,,and used it already,,,I will tell you one later tonight,,,,but I never met a dumb blond,,,,,well maybe one,,,Sue, long story
Carol,,,,I still think that you should have someone helping around your house,,,,,but NO,,,NO,,,you should never hire football players,,,they are lazy, out of the football field,,,and they are primadonnas,,,when that kids father gave him a toyota,,,,all he needed was gas $,,,but not willing to work for it,,,,,,,,,and you can get someone that is a good worker for ten bucks and hr.cash,,,,,all kids are what they used to be,,,but some are used to being given what they want without working for it,,,,,On of my biggest,,,father moments ,,,was when one of my sons Bosses,,,(we were at a bar listening to his band,,,,surprised me,,they were very good) told me that Tommy was a very very good worker.,,,I used to get him up,,,very early in the am,,,and help me pour concrete on the weekends,,and treated him like any other laborer.,,,hard.
Pogo,,,,,,Thanks for the shout out,,,,and here,,,check it all out,,,but the # 2,,,is what Im ordering for your lunch today,,,gonna send a copy to Mrs P,,,she will know how to keep you in line,,HA!
You are what you eat, and that includes your brain. So what is the ultimate mastermind diet?,,,
Don 1
Don't go messing with my string theory,,,,the same as religion ,,where did you get that from,,,???
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Is Cheney riding on the 47 million year old dinosaur in your garden?
Posted by: DexterJohnson
| May 21, 2009 12:31 AM
Actually, the Republicans remind me of my sassafras tree. A bit odd and full of hallucinogen.
Speaking of odd, I was wishing for a good cup or tea of my favorite spring tonic, which is almost impossible to find thanks to the FDA, and two saplings appeared in my back yard.
Posted by: don1one
| May 21, 2009 12:36 AM
Yes, that Cheney makes a great garden knome,---- say...let's volunteer him to be that travelling knome from television land...let's send him to a cell in Guantanamo! Since Obama isn't going to get to close the prison/torture chambers any time soon, thanks to his buddy-dems who caved in to the "nimby" complaints of their constituencies, he could stay there a good long while.
What...these chicken-dems don't realize there are prisons all over this great nation, housing murderers and worse , every day? Even Harry Reid surprised me as he wants no part of any terrorists "on US soil."
Dick Durbin? His state hs Marion Federal Prison, along with Stateville Prison, a couple of the worst prisons in the world. What's a few terrorists in chains going to do, bite him? Sheesh.
Posted by: DexterJohnson
| May 21, 2009 12:40 AM
don1: Someone tagged all our ash trees in City Park with WARNING! ASH BORERS HAVE CONTAMINATES TREES ! DON'T MOVE FIREWOOD.
I tried to make sassafrass tea outta bark...I guess we needed the sap, eh? We were just little kids.
Mom useta make catnip tea, I kid you not! My gawd, it was AWFUL !
Posted by: DexterJohnson
| May 21, 2009 12:46 AM
Wouldn't Dick more of a garden gargoyle? Used for scaring off dogs and stray children?
Posted by: don1one
| May 21, 2009 12:48 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/garden-variety-politics.html#comment-229486
Yes, that's what it looks like to me and they're squishing the ivy!
Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 12:49 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/garden-variety-politics.html#comment-229487
"Speaking of odd..."
Don, did you happen to catch what I posted earlier about "coincidences between our inner subjective world and outer events?" Seek and ye shall find?
Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 12:54 AM
I'm so relieved the plumbago made it.
Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 12:57 AM
Sorry, missed it ivy. I've been hit and miss lately. It's funny, both religion and string theory are starting to coalesce around the notion that perception is reality. So I would agree with your summation.
Haven't made it from scratch yet Dexter. They're too small to make tea right now. They're interesting though, they have three different leaf shapes. And crushed leaves smell like root beer. Amazing how people have been using the tea for centuries and now the FDA has decided it's going to kill us. With the record of the FDA I vote for folk medicine.
Posted by: don1one
| May 21, 2009 1:10 AM
And with that I'm afraid it's off to bed. Early conference call. Says hi's for me.
Posted by: don1one
| May 21, 2009 1:12 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/garden-variety-politics.html#comment-229494
Don, as you say, "both religion and string theory are starting to coalesce around the notion that perception is reality."
Or as the great philosopher Tim Allen (or maybe it was an elf) said in the movie The Santa Clause, "Seeing isn't believing. Believing is seeing."
Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 1:21 AM
pretty funny:
http://www.passiveaggressivenotes.com/
g'night all.
Posted by: warren
| May 21, 2009 1:23 AM
One more thing. I promise you don't have to listen to the whole interview with Rush.
But is Greta taking dictation from the GOP swami for the first minute or so?
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=5207500&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/index.html
Posted by: warren
| May 21, 2009 1:33 AM
Tortured metaphors! LMAO!!
You could run Tortured Metaphor Theatre".
I'll leave y'all with this tonight. Dex you can sweep up after it hits the fan.
"College students and faculty members with concealed handgun licenses would be allowed to pack their firearms on campus under a bill that the Senate tentatively approved Tuesday."
Except in University hospitals where it makes the most sense to get shot...where there's immediate help.
"Senators also rejected a provision that would have given parents and students the right choose a dormitory free of firearms. They agreed to one that would ban handguns in polling places and bars on campus, and at regents' meetings."
NO gun free dorms here.
*sigh*
"College gun bill clears first Senate vote"
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/texassouthwest/legislature/stories/DN-collegeguns_20tex.ART.State.Edition1.4999a31.html
tt
Posted by: tiptoe
| May 21, 2009 1:42 AM
okay - my radius is fractured/chipped . the doc wasn't a radiologist and told me to check with my doc in a couple of days. I'll also have my bil read the films, whcich they gave to me. From elbow to bottom of fingers is in a splint , just underneath and not on top, so I can ice it. It is so much better immobilized - I'm taking aspirin, my special Ascriptin -it has maalox with it and doesn't bother my stomach. The pain is negligible - it's the annoyance.
The toe and foot are okay, but I'm not sure. that toe is a killer.
I think I can find the poem, Chloe. Ricahrd Bolles is apparently involved in religious and therapeutic works so maybe it was the philosophy that did it for me.
Flatus, yes it did occur to me, when I remembered the
details, that I was in a library that I found that answer. I had forgotten that, but I was probably there looking
for the crossword puzzle from the Sunday NY Times.
I do seek the company of books, esp when discombobulated.
what I want to know is how in the world am I supposed to do crossword puzzles?
Patd - I won't say thaat it was hard to write that. It did bring tears to my eyes remembring how dark dark were those days, but I felt safe doing so. Those days are polar opposite to what I have now, and I am flabbergasted. There is quiite a lesson right there.
The past is the past and I've forgiven myself and just about anybody else.
I occurs to me that I felt safe telling that story for several reasons. One, time has passed. Two, the situation is so improved as to be another world. finally, I don't fear you guys. If you don't want to hear a sad story of mine, I know you'll scroll down or flat ignore, or be embarrassed for me (???). But I also know you guys won't be mean - you're always kind.
Yes, I did see Cbob's post to me. I ahve taken some pix but they're on film. Now I need to get a decent digital camera, and I want one I can plug into the tv, but my sister says it'll have to be an hd tv. I'll get thepix up there.
What I did with my seed is plant them in little pods that staart off flat like adisc and expand when you water them. Then I pushed the seed in and made sure it was covered a little. I did put them on a tray I could plug in sto kkep warm, but didn't do that much.
time to creep off to bed. Thanks for all the well wishes from everyone.
Posted by: bethyboo
| May 21, 2009 2:56 AM
Tip -
The gun nuts are on the march. They're all dead certain Obama's coming after their guns. Bidding up the price of ammo sky high.
I mean crying about the price of bullets when they have 10,000 rounds in the closet.
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| May 21, 2009 2:58 AM
Get well Boo. The corn will keep.
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| May 21, 2009 3:05 AM
Boo -
Canon Power Shot 360, or whatever has replaced it. I got mine at Amazon for 85 Bucks. Get a bigger memory card for movies, two sets of rechargeable batteries, and bingo ! Your in the Movie Business .
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| May 21, 2009 3:11 AM
that raggedy cheney doll is getting a lot of air time.......might be time to look for a pilot script for a sit-com............
Posted by: sturgeone
| May 21, 2009 5:54 AM
i can never figure out how american people accepted all those draft dodging weasels as national security experts.......what make dat?
Posted by: sturgeone
| May 21, 2009 5:57 AM
sassafras tea: recipes and histories.......
http://www.southernangel.com/food/sassafras.html
Posted by: sturgeone
| May 21, 2009 6:00 AM
new favorite book title: [ Hello Vodka? It's Me, Chelsea]
Posted by: sturgeone
| May 21, 2009 6:30 AM
What would dem Cajuns do without dem leaves of dat sassaras tree to make der gumbo file?
And Craig I love your gardening and cooking videos. I wonder if PBS could find a spot for you, especially that new Create channel I get at Owl camp with my rabbit ears. I just love that channel. It's cooking, crafts, gardening, and travel. Anyone ever watch it? I'm not sure cable carries it.
Posted by: ct
| May 21, 2009 6:32 AM
And I got an email from one of the Dem websites saying they needed my help with health care reform. I wrote back saying, yeah you do. They wanted money. I told them I was short on that but full of good advice.
Posted by: ct
| May 21, 2009 6:38 AM
And also, Bethy I am sorry about your injury also. Man I am going to be awful careful going down my stairs today. Don't things usually come in threes? Anyone else break anything so the rest of us are safe here? Craig? Is it your turn again?
Posted by: ct
| May 21, 2009 6:41 AM
they can't hep it........they can write a 4 page letter with all the loftiest goals and ideals expressed, but at the end of the last page it says: SEND ME MONEY.
just like a damn television evangelist.......send me money.
yeah, right.
Posted by: sturgeone
| May 21, 2009 6:41 AM
leboutillier is fulla crap.
Posted by: sturgeone
| May 21, 2009 6:44 AM
I almost told them that I had no money because of how they handled the finance problem so I hoped they did a better job with the health care one.
Posted by: ct
| May 21, 2009 6:44 AM
I also wanted to write them that they could monitor Trailmix because this site if full of good advice.
Posted by: ct
| May 21, 2009 6:45 AM
sturge, caught you... 5:54, 5:57, 6:00... lurking like a spider ready to pounce with a woo hoo
solar, a joke just for you (all the pc police please ignore):
> A
> blonde woman was speeding down the road in her little red
> sports car
> and was pulled over by a woman police officer
> who was also a blonde.
>
> The blonde cop asked to see the blonde
> driver's license. She dug
> through her purse and was getting
> progressively more agitated.
>
> 'What does it look like?' she finally
> asked.
>
> The policewoman replied, 'It's square
> and it has your picture on it.'
>
> The driver finally found a square mirror in
> her purse, looked at it and
> handed it to the policewoman. 'Here it
> is,' she said.
>
> The blonde officer looked at the mirror, then
> handed it back saying,
> 'OK, you can go. I didn't realize you
> were a cop.
Posted by: patd
| May 21, 2009 6:47 AM
I also wanted to write them that they could monitor Trailmix because this site if full of good advice.
Posted by: ct Author Profile Page | May 21, 2009 6:45 AM
That's the FBI's job........
Posted by: sturgeone
| May 21, 2009 6:47 AM
That's what I was afraid of Sturge. Not sure I want them listening in. Then they would be taking names.
Posted by: ct
| May 21, 2009 6:49 AM
He, he, he, Patd
Posted by: ct
| May 21, 2009 6:51 AM
portent of our future....the squeamish among us may wish to scroll on by...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/20/AR2009052003016.html?hpid=sec-health
Posted by: patd
| May 21, 2009 6:53 AM
patd......they give a new and fresh perspective to "drinking the kool-aid".
Posted by: sturgeone
| May 21, 2009 6:56 AM
I only opened that email from the Dem party because it said, "Carol, I need your voice...." When I tried to give them it, all they really wanted was my money.
Posted by: ct
| May 21, 2009 6:58 AM
Sometimes my water out here looks worse than urine so I drink distilled water. I am trying to come up with something I can build with all the gallon jugs I am accumulating. I nice raft maybe or house boat.
Posted by: ct
| May 21, 2009 7:00 AM
So now the nuts can bring guns into our National Parks so lets go all the way and allow guns into the Congress.
Surly the Repugs wouldn't be afraid of having someone walk in and put a bullet in their head now would they. After all everyone including the Congress and Senate would also be packing so they could defend themselves from any threats against them.
Just think how much more interesting those Congressional and Senate Sessions would be with everyone wondering if there Congressional Opponent would shoot them if they said the wrong thing.
Lets see a Democrat suggest fire arms allowed into their Congress and watch the Repugs scream about safety in their chambers.
Then the Democrats could ask the Repugs why they want gun control in the peoples house and why are they against the NRA who wants everyone to own a assault weapon to protect themselves with.
That would indeed be an interesting live session.
Posted by: anon-paranoid
| May 21, 2009 7:09 AM
bw, hope my dumb joke for solar didn't offend you. especially in your hours of pain. if it did, you owe me one when your fighting hand (per ct's diagnosis) heals.
perhaps you and boo can co-post or collaborate during recovery, assuming that y'all's injured extremities are on opposite sides.
Posted by: patd
| May 21, 2009 7:10 AM
That carry your concealed weapon to college is up for a vote in our legislature in La. Our Govenor wants it to pass. I am glad I'm not still teaching at the University or I would have to quit. I used to have to teach the hard stuff and some of my students would get really pissed when they failed a test.
Posted by: ct
| May 21, 2009 7:17 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/jimmy-hoffa-and-me.html#comment-229467
cbob, hope more $$$ see their way to you and the noble work goes on.
Posted by: patd
| May 21, 2009 7:22 AM
anon-p is on to something over there.........let the congress critters deal with it at home, so to speak.........see how that sets with 'em........
Posted by: sturgeone
| May 21, 2009 7:23 AM
sturge, those c critters live in a parallel universe of anti-matter. iow, it don't matter to them. example their single payer health insurance vs. none for us
Posted by: patd
| May 21, 2009 7:25 AM
Craig- LOVE the video!
Bethy- don't know what a radius is, but I'm sorry you broke it. Get well soon!
Cbob- Don't feel bad, I've had cajun envy for years, you learn to live with it.. Spanish moss, hoo doo, bayous, jazz, cajun music, french with a southern twist, shrimp, beignets, sultry nights and now to add insult to injury Carol's owl camp. As if it wasn't bad enough before.
Wish I could stay here and visit with you all, i do miss you but must go out to my own torturous gardens.
Posted by: oldseahag
| May 21, 2009 7:28 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/garden-variety-politics.html#comment-229514
You got that right, Sturg. I hope it's the last time we have to put up with him. I thought Alexis Glick was a terrific guest the other day.
Posted by: Flatus
| May 21, 2009 7:30 AM
Lawyers like Joe Scarborough and the twelve that are being pursued for disbarment are a threat to Democracy.
Their no better than Hitlers Lawyers who gave him the legal advice to do what he did nor the Judges who upheld those legal opinions.
Maybe we should start calling Scarborough Nazi Joe the Lawyer. The shoe sure fits him if you ask me, but then you didn't ask me did you?
Posted by: anon-paranoid
| May 21, 2009 7:35 AM
Craig.... ROFL!... even better than last year's garden video.....
trying to play catch-up here....
Bethy and BlondeW... so sorry about your broken bones.... heal fast....
Carol.... had to get my dad to the doctor yesterday... he broke a rib from coughing too hard..... so if TMer's parents count... there's your 3rd one....
of course..... no surprise.... America voted for the christian missionary white bread candidate on American Idol last night.....
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| May 21, 2009 7:37 AM
american's idle.
Posted by: sturgeone
| May 21, 2009 7:39 AM
A-P, should we afford him due process before or after we hang him?
Posted by: Flatus
| May 21, 2009 7:40 AM
The Palin/rose was spot-on & scary. The Pelosi/St. John's Wort was also spot-on & funny! Do you have anything in your garden to make her speak coherently...and less?
Posted by: blueINdallas
| May 21, 2009 7:40 AM
CC is a very chancey gardener.............
Posted by: sturgeone
| May 21, 2009 7:42 AM
How far apart do Bethy and BW live? And, what were they doing two days ago? Are charges pending? Why not?
Posted by: Flatus
| May 21, 2009 7:43 AM
Hmmmm, sassafras mead. Now that has has possibilities. I hear mead's a bit bitter though.
They take the safrole out of gumbo file. Now what fun is that?
Seems like the FDA is always protecting us from natural substances that aren't harmful and allowing through harmful drugs that they get paid for testing and protecting. Like l-Tryptophan vs. Prozac
Posted by: don1one
| May 21, 2009 7:45 AM
...and today t'key remembered me & I didn't have to sign in/it kept throwing me back to the login yesterday even though the postbox....oh, "machines"
bethyboo - Take care.
C'b - Corn still looks like long blades of grass/not getting any bigger around yet & bending/breaking in the wind. Oh, and you are right about the gun nuts going into hoarding mode. Are we more exposed to it just because we live in Texas?
Posted by: blueINdallas
| May 21, 2009 7:47 AM
Ouch RR. Tell your dad I'm sorry. I know how painful those broken ribs are cuz I break one at least a couple times a year just breathing hard. Hope my Forteo starts working soon.
I think we will count your dad in. It protects the rest of us here.
And Sea, it would take just one step out of the house on a summer day for all your cajun envy to disappear. The great out of doors is almost prohibited in the summer.
Posted by: ct
| May 21, 2009 7:47 AM
flatus...
If he's a enemy combatant he has no rights. Just like those we have held and tortured for the past eight years.
Posted by: anon-paranoid
| May 21, 2009 7:49 AM
Don,
The problem I have with the natural substances that packagers make medicinal claims for, is that they are marketed as nutrients with absolutely no oversight over efficacy or side effects, and no mandatory, tested adherence to claimed contents.
Aside from that, I think natural is good.
Posted by: Flatus
| May 21, 2009 7:51 AM
Carol, what treatment will you shift to when your two years are up?
Posted by: Flatus
| May 21, 2009 8:01 AM
Flatus...
Or we could give him the same process we gave Saddam Hussein if you preferred that treatment for him.
Posted by: anon-paranoid
| May 21, 2009 8:09 AM
chauncy ain't got nothing compared to our craig the gardner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYLy1Yj_P_Q
Posted by: patd
| May 21, 2009 8:15 AM
A-P,
We are a nation of laws. Every instance of summary 'justice' comes back to haunt us, as it should.
Nuremberg formalized the process that should be followed in crimes against humanity. Whether Cheney's actions rise to that level is a determination I can't make.
Posted by: Flatus
| May 21, 2009 8:19 AM
Flatus,
Yeah, I'd like testing for purity and percentage. Just not whether or not I can take it. I don't have a lot of trust in doctors. They call it a license to practice for a reason.
Look at how long wine was bad for you, I've now had two doctors tell me to have a glass at least 5 nights a week.
L-Tryptophan was banned just as Prozac came out, but was still allowed in baby formula. Go figure.
Posted by: don1one
| May 21, 2009 8:21 AM
Stinky has me by my ear and is dragging me outside to trim trees. Ladder work with a chainsaw. Not smart. But, I have my orders. After that, it's into the shower and then off to the dentist.
Later!
Posted by: Flatus
| May 21, 2009 8:22 AM
Craig,
Love your video. Especially your garden gnome.
Posted by: cajunjoe.pip.verisignlabs.com
| May 21, 2009 8:27 AM
craig, kudos for the crazy crepe myrtle from delaware.
and any offense from comparing chauncy the gardner to craig the gardner should not be taken personally.... the comment has more to do with their followers than the characters themselves.
Posted by: patd
| May 21, 2009 8:28 AM
Flatus...
We are not a nation of laws until investigations and prosecutions if needed are done and those who committed crimes against our constitution and War Crimes are held accountable.
There is more than enough proof in the public domain that Bush\Cheney authorized War Crimes including the illegal invasion of Iraq.
They have denigrated the honor and integrity of the military, the constitution and our country.
And we now have laws on the books that allows one person to determine if you have any rights under what was once our constitution.
The fact of the matter is that no one wants to admit that we are now no different than any other third world dictatorship country ruled not by law but by the acts of a few individuals.
And yes their are many Democrats that are just as guilty as the Republicans and the Bush\Cheney Nazi's.
There are more than a few bad apples in the military today and until they are also purged one day we could end up under military rule.
Not all in the military are bad, however the leaders are and because of that many good Americans have died for oil in a illegal War of Aggression for another countries resources which is the Greatest War Crime of All.
A Crime Against Humanity that's what America has done. I hope your not proud of that, because I'm not.
Have a nice day.
Posted by: anon-paranoid
| May 21, 2009 8:41 AM
mornin'
Gotta run in a few minutes to get an estimate for the insco - good news is I missed the deer. Bad news is, I didn't miss the guardrail. Irony is I was thinking about trading the damn thing - and I may yet.
Bill Press was on fire this morning about the Dem senators voting to keep Gitmo open. He is making sense to me. Wusses. They don't think such vaunted places as Supermax are up to the task of keeping suspected terr'ists until they can be tried and set out to sea to drift until some passing freighter picks them up? I got an idea - let them all be the unarmed crew on a junk freighter passing off the coast of Somalia - we won't hear a word from them for years.
Now I gotta go get that estimate. Damn.
Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 8:42 AM
We really have become a nation of frightened wusses. First we're willing to give up all kinds of due process and civil rights because we are scared of terrorists -- scared even of anyone who practices a strange religion or wears a scarf on her head.
Now we're scared because if we close Guantanamo and confine those who really might threaten us in maximum security prisons they might bankroll other terrorist activities (huh? go figure that one out) or 'convert' other criminals to their cause, or bring terrorist special forces into the U.S. to rescue them and let them run rampant on our streets.
So, we've got all these gun nuts with all of their weapons, aren't they able to protect those of us who might like going hunting once in awhile, but don't see the need to keep an AK-47 by our bedstead? What are they going to do with all those guns in National Parks -- except maybe protect us from the terrorists who try to take over Old Faithful
Posted by: cajunjoe.pip.verisignlabs.com
| May 21, 2009 8:59 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/garden-variety-politics.html#comment-229528
Patd, CBob is reaching his goal quickly.... we may be seeing that oven soon.
https://www.fundable.com/groupactions/groupaction.2009-05-15.2155051577?email=coloradobob1@mac.com
Posted by: chloe
| May 21, 2009 9:03 AM
Joe, If we've become frightened, it's because we have been told over and over again that we aren't save unless....
I think people just look for reasons to buy the guns they want to buy anyway.
Posted by: chloe
| May 21, 2009 9:06 AM
Craig, There are also plenty of fruits in this garden. It really is a variety.
Posted by: buford.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 9:06 AM
" almost told them that I had no money because of how they handled the finance problem so I hoped they did a better job with the health care one. "
Good idea, Carol!
Posted by: Patsi
| May 21, 2009 9:07 AM
"Bad news is, I didn't miss the guardrail"
Pogo, I assume you're ok?
We don't need anymore TM broken bones. It's geting downright scary.
Posted by: chloe
| May 21, 2009 9:15 AM
we aren't save = we aren't safe
Posted by: chloe
| May 21, 2009 9:16 AM
Pogo.... crap!.... hope you're ok.... a car is just a "thing".... although it does come in handy when you need it.... :0)
Ivy.... I forgot to mention that a pair of Indigo Buntings showed up at my feeders a couple days ago... now the families growing up in my yard are complete...
I wish I could send all of you the smell of my front yard... the lilacs are in full bloom and they smell heavenly.... could someone please invent smell-ernet...
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| May 21, 2009 9:23 AM
I don't have time to write it - but I think a great headline for an article re: Obama and Cheney's dueling speeches would be: "Two Americas"
(I don't think Edwards is using that line too much anymore these days...)
Posted by: warren
| May 21, 2009 9:31 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/garden-variety-politics.html#comment-229557
Joe -- you are spot on!
Posted by: Patsi
| May 21, 2009 9:33 AM
Renee -- Oh man! I am so envious! I love the smellof lilacs more than anything...and lilac "scent" just doesn't do it. Has to be those bushes!
Posted by: Patsi
| May 21, 2009 9:34 AM
RR, chloe, I'm fine (I was just pissed off) - I wasn't even sure I had hit the guardrail until I got out to look. It just did a little customizing of the paint on the right side and reconfiguring the fender.
a-p, on this issue, you may be one of the biggest realists around. I wish could disagree with you. Oh, well.
Joe, I heard one of the gun nuts trying to defend needing to have a gun in parks recanting the raped, murdered, stabbed stuff - and he sounded like a frickin' idiot. He could provide axactly one incident - the central park woman jogger - I'm sure you remember it. Think she would have been packin' heat while she was jogging? I kinda doubt it. This stuff about having guns on college campuses - puhlease. Nothing like mixing youth, inexperience, drugs, alcohol, anger at "unfair" professors and firearms. Hmmmm, what's the worse that could happen? Oh, dead folks. I've said it before and stand by it - Larry Flynt has done more to protect our rights than Wayne LaPierre ever has or will.
Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 9:36 AM
Better take the Roundup to the Cheney plant. It is a non native growth and will take over any garden where it is planted.
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 9:36 AM
strug:
Idle Nation.
Posted by: warren
| May 21, 2009 9:38 AM
Doh! I mean sturg
Posted by: warren
| May 21, 2009 9:39 AM
The wheels of justice grind slowly.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/22/us/22gitmo.html?_r=1&hp
Now I ask you, if they can try "Ahmed Ghailani in federal court" so he " finally answers for his alleged role in the bombing of our embassies in Tanzania and Kenya,” [as] Attorney General Eric Holder said in a statement." then why is closing Gitmo and trying the terrorist suspects on whom we actually have evidence such a big fucking deal? Assholes!! (Excuse me, but I am tired of the bullshit).
Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 9:46 AM
I agree with everyone on Gitmo.
I am really incensed about 2 things.
First, the opposition is involved in this self-fulfilling reason about the danger. It seems - correctly - that people are dismissing the idea that our federal prisons can't hold these people - just like they hold thousands of other dangerous "lifer type" criminals.
So the other argument is that housing these people in US prisons could make those prisons or the communities in which they are located - targets for terrorists who are not in captivity.
I know of no law that would require us to publicly disclose where these prisoners would be held. And if there was - we could change it when dealing with convicted terrorists.
But of course all these NIMBY opponents will probably refuse to shut their mouths and will make a big deal that will draw attention and media coverage to any location that agrees to accept terrorist. Now that is playing politics with America's safety and adding to the precise danger these pols are rallying against.
Second, Obama is taking hits for giving a 1-year timeline. Give me a break. The other option - the usual Washington politics where tough issues are kicked down the road and hard decisions are avoided like the plague. Screw that, Yes this is a tough decision - but if people would quit the grandstanding and focus on the problem - a year is more than enough time to come up with a plan and implement it.
(Perhaps the Republicans could spend more time on this issue and less time trying to rebrand the Dems as socialists...)
Posted by: warren
| May 21, 2009 9:48 AM
Glad you're ok pogo.
Guns might be handy in Southern California Parks because of marijuana growers. In NC just about anyone can get a concealed carry permit. I overheard one person that just got hers asking what a hang fire was. I don't want these people carrying guns. Or in places where alcohol is found.
" dueling speeches would be: "Two Americas"" Used on the Daily Show just last night.
Posted by: don1one
| May 21, 2009 9:49 AM
pogo:
It is ridiculous to argue people would pack heat while jogging. People won't even carry an ipod and pay plenty of cash to get one of the mini ishuffles...
Posted by: warren
| May 21, 2009 9:50 AM
And the only idiot I know that would put a loaded gun in their sweat pants is Plaxico Burress.
Posted by: warren
| May 21, 2009 9:50 AM
craig...i'd like to see cheney in one of those electric bug zappers!
Posted by: Blonde wino
| May 21, 2009 9:53 AM
Mead Recipes - Honey mead is wonderful
http://www.greydragon.org/brewing/mead.html
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 9:56 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/garden-variety-politics.html#comment-229564
Renee --
Your buntings traveled a long way and are ready to get down to business!
Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 9:58 AM
damn that Jon Stewart!!
(But I still think it would be an interesting article to analyze the two distinct views on Foreign Policy that exist in America.)
Posted by: warren
| May 21, 2009 9:59 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/garden-variety-politics.html#comment-229570
Hope he's careful where he aims that stuff... (^_~)
Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 9:59 AM
warren, I know - I suspect this is being driven by people who want to shoot a bear and claim self defense.
Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 10:03 AM
"In a bold and sweeping policy memorandum issued late yesterday, President Obama ... direct[ed] executive branch officials to review every regulation adopted in the past ten years to scrub them of inappropriate preemption language.
"In an assault on federalism and our Constitution, the Bush Administration quietly inserted preemptive language into a number of important regulations in an attempt to favor corporate interests at the expense of state laws protecting their citizens. Yesterday, the Obama Administration recognized that states serve as "laboratories of democracy" and often are the most aggressive defenders of public health, safety, and the environment."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/doug-kendall/breaking-president-obama_b_206226.html
OK, now somebody remind me because my memory isn't what it used to be. WHICH party is the party of a smaller less intrusive federal government? This is so typical I can't stand seeing the McConnells and Boners of the world stand up and speak with straight faces about the Obama administration as trying to enlarge the government.
Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 10:19 AM
Speaking of hypocrisy pogo - I really like this:
Newt claims - with righteous indignation - that Pelosi has “disqualified herself” for the leadership spot, because “if I were a person trying to defend this country, I’d have very little confidence that the Speaker of the House had any regard for what we were doing.”
BUT...Newt in on record with:
"The [NIE] is so professionally unworthy, so intellectually indefensible and so fundamentally misleading that it is damaging to our national security."
And Rep. Peter Hoekstra’s (R-MI) - another big blow hard on this issue - made this statement in 2007:
“We cannot have an intelligence community that covers up what it does and then lies to Congress.”
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/05/20/gingrich-hoekstra/
Posted by: warren
| May 21, 2009 10:26 AM
Pogo -- I think Wayne LaPierre is probably a serial killer. PLEASE at least let him get busted for something awful on his computer.....
Posted by: Patsi
| May 21, 2009 10:27 AM
Warren -- I agree about the timeline...the president has to be given time to do this. If the damn congress will even let him.
Posted by: Patsi
| May 21, 2009 10:28 AM
God, warren, I saw the newt on TV last night - when confronted with Hoekstra's 2007 statement, he did verbal origami trying to distinguish those comments from Pelosi's and looked like the fat fool he is. One itty bitty detail that seems to have escaped him is that Pelosi was talking about specific lies she says were told to her by the CIA 5 years BEFORE Hoekstra made his comments - in response to REPUBLICAN criticism of her for approving torture. Jesus H. Christ, what a f*cking idiot. Newt NEEDS to be the voice of the GOP along with Rush - dems need them to be. IMHO the GOP has become like the 15 clowns that pile out of a VW Beetle at Ringling Brothers.
Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 10:40 AM
Patsi, I think the pres can indeed do this - he could just veto the legislation and when it comes back up, put a signing statement on it saying that it usurps his power as commander in chief to conduct (not declare) war and prosecute our enemies as part of that effort, have Holder file suit in Fed Dist. Court and let the case matriculate to SCOTUS. In the year or so that it goes forward, he could try the guys who need trials, release the rest onto a junk freighter headed for the Somali coast, and close the damn place. (No, I'm not serious about the specifics, but the trying, releasing and closing part I am dead serious about). Habeus corpus, remember it? It was one of the major motivators, aside from taxes on tea, that moved the founding fathers to give George III the finger.
Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 10:46 AM
I used to think that if the GOP thinks their prospects are dim to unseat Obama in 2012 - that they would trot out Palin as the sacrificial lamb. Reasoning that she would at least be willing to take some very tough shots at Obama as she crashes and burns.
But now - it seems that Newt fits the bill even better (and has even less of a political future to sacrifice). He will be willing to trash Obama and the Democrats - and go down in the process. Losing whatever ounce of credibility he has in some quarters of America.
He is the consumate rabble-rouser. And it looks like he is ready to be the hyperbolic, hypocritical master of misinformation for the GOP in 2012. Should be fun!
Posted by: warren
| May 21, 2009 10:55 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/20/new-york-city-temple-bomb_n_206140.html
Quick, everyone, check under your beds. See, this is why the BS about Gitmo doesn't make sense. There is no evidence that the Gitmo guys would make us less safe if in prison in the US, and regardless of what is done at Gitmo, we are not made safe from the threat of terror plots by keeping folks from halfway across the globe in prision in Cuba. And does anyone see any mention of getting info about this plot by detaining and torturing the folks involved in planning it? I can't seem to find any such reference. These dots really aren't that hard to connect.
btw, what is el presidente saying? Not being able to get streaming video or audio, I'm kinda in the dark.
Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 10:55 AM
pogo:
I think Obama closing Gitmo unilaterally would be a big mistake.
First, he would draw the inevitable comparisons to Bush in that he is expanding executive power.
Second, the move would generate such controversy that it would detract and distract from the symbolic gesture that is closing down Gitmo. (Indeed, the symbolism is one of the major benefits of the closure.)
I think he just needs to continue to press his case as he is doing today. Point out that a supermajority of Americans (including McCain, Gates, etc.) all agree that this is the right thing to do. And call on Congress to help get it done instead of playing politics with the issue.
Posted by: warren
| May 21, 2009 11:02 AM
If they close Gitmo and move the prisoners, John Engler wants them brought to the prisons in Northern Michigan.
Posted by: Corey
| May 21, 2009 11:04 AM
warren, I don't claim to have a monopoly on what is the right and wrong thing to do, just my own stupid opinions. I think the obvious way to shut gitmo is to try the people we are housing there and dispose of them (as in disposition rather than discard). Obama can continue to make the points you suggest while that process goes forward. Frankly, I do see a constitutional conflict in that law, at least as I understand it, and I would veto it in a heartbeat were I he.
SHHHH!!!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/18/john-weaver-gop-headed-fo_n_204695.html
I hope Cheney is speaking now. And I hope Rush is next, followed by Sarah.
Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 11:10 AM
"hyperbolic, hypocritical master of misinformation for the GOP" RFLMFAO The competition for that title will be fierce - there are just so many contestants...
Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 11:14 AM
Pogo, you must be referring to all the new faces of the new GOP. What a great up and coming crew it is. Cheney, Rove, Gringrich, Thompson and Lott.
I saw everyone of those guys being interviewed on FOX yesterday . . Hey, I was channel surfing! Oh, I forgot, I saw a story talking about a fellow named Rumsfeld too.
Posted by: Rezdog
| May 21, 2009 11:21 AM
Renee, I heard there was a Big Papi sighting in Boston last night.
Posted by: Corey
| May 21, 2009 11:22 AM
Obama is a politician before he is a Constitutional scholar. Only those who are able to freely pontificate in the theoretical world of a class room or a lecture hall can truly be pure scholars...
Posted by: warren
| May 21, 2009 11:26 AM
What is the status of the argument that Guantanamo is a U.S. territory and, therefore, the detainees are already on U.S. soil? Seems to me the NIMBY people would want to pull up that old chestnut.
Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 11:26 AM
Here's the text of Obama's speech for those not able (like me) to watch it.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/us/politics/21obama.text.html?pagewanted=1
Terrific comments about torture and Gitmo on pages 2 & 3. And talk about stick it to Bush - on the release of 2/3 of the Gitmo detainees. Can't wait to hear the dark lord respond to this. (And I won't be able to get Burgess Meredith's Penguin out of my head as he does).
Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 11:30 AM
I don't see why the President needs to close Gitmo. Can't he just transfer the prisoners somewhere else by executive order ... say at least a 100 to that max security prison on Olbermann last night?
Cheney is just babbling the same tired crud including Sadaam had prove "relationships" with terrorists. Water Board is not torture. The information we got was worth the method ... blah blah gag gag. Somebody PLEASE arrest this man. He is a sociopath who still believes in his righteous mission to injure others. No one will change his mind and like the terrorists he tortured belongs where he can not damage others.
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 11:39 AM
Ivy, I'm not sure it is technically a U.S. territory. According to Wiki (the fount of all knowledge) it is under US territorial control pursuant to a perpetual lease as a result of the 1903 Cuban-American Treaty. Someone with more knowledge than I have about treaties, international leases, territorial jurisdiction and the like would have to opine about the legal status of Gitmo as a US territory.
From Wiki:
"The U.S. government obtained a 99-year lease that began on February 23, 1903, from Tomás Estrada Palma, a Cuban-born citizen, who became the first President of Cuba. The newly-formed American protectorate incorporated the Platt Amendment in the Cuban Constitution. The Cuban-American Treaty held, among other things, that the United States, for the purposes of operating coaling and naval stations, has "complete jurisdiction and control" of the Guantánamo Bay, while the Republic of Cuba is recognized to retain ultimate sovereignty."
And the rest of the story...
" 1934 the Avery Porko treaty reaffirming the lease granted Cuba and its trading partners free access through the bay; modified the lease payment from $2,000 in U.S. gold coins per year, to the 1934 equivalent value of $3,085 in U.S. dollars; and made the lease permanent unless both governments agreed to break it, or the U.S. abandoned the base property. Since the Cuban Revolution, the government under Fidel Castro has cashed only one of the rent checks from the U.S. government, and only because of confusion in 1959 in the heady early days of the leftist revolution. The remaining uncashed checks made out to "Treasurer General of the Republic" (a position that ceased to exist after the revolution) are kept in Castro's office stuffed into a desk drawer. The United States argues that the cashing of the single check signifies Havana's ratification of the lease — and that ratification by the new government renders moot any questions about violations of sovereignty and illegal military occupation.[citation needed] It is countered, however, that the 1903 and 1934 lease agreements were imposed on Cuba under duress and are unequal treaties, no longer compatible with modern international law, and voidable ex nunc pursuant to articles 60, 62, and 64 of the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties."
You figure it out - I can't.
Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 11:40 AM
Rez, I was referring mostly to Cheney, Limpballs and Palin, but those you mentioned will likely file their candidcacy papers to seek the title as well. And PLEASE, let's not forget Michelle Bachman, Bobby Jindal and Eric Cantor. I'm sure that they aren't happy with the new face of the GOP (Steele) either.
Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 11:44 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/garden-variety-politics.html#comment-229602
Pogo - lmao
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22889570@N07/2230546566/
Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 11:51 AM
This speech is tedious...I hope it isn't some college's commencement address....I'm heading to the garden now.
Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 11:54 AM
Here's teh argument that the detainees can't be released.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/us/politics/21gitmo.html?ref=us
My argument is simply this - had the incompetent bozos of Bushworld done their f*cking jobs instead of getting their jollies letting "contractors" torture our Gitmo guests, they would reviewed what evidence they actually had and would have determined who was and was not engaged in activity against us before they were rounded up by ME bounty hunters and wisked away to Gitmo ,and they wouldn't have let the 7th prisoner go but would have convicted and jailed him. This report does not IMHO reflect badly on the release of prisoners in general as much as it provides specific evidence, yet one more time, on the wholly unbelievable lack of competence in the conduct of the wawhonterra by Bushco.
Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 11:54 AM
"liminal psychological states during which we are receptive and open to new growth. At these times, it is not unusual for there to be "coincidences between our inner subjective world and outer events.... glimpses of the eternal and ordinary perception overlap."
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/jimmy-hoffa-and-me.html#comment-229469
Ivy,
Just catching up with last nights posts, and I found that post of yours that I linked above very interesting.. I think you hit the 'coincidence' thing on the head (so to speak). They are transitional points that we experience - or go through - and I, for one, always feel best when I'm in one of them. However, it always feels like something familiar and comfortable is being left behind. Well, so be it, it's always about trade offs.
I guess it's nothing more than changing our mind, and creating the circumstances to fit our new thinking. Anyway, thanks for the point you made.
Posted by: chloe
| May 21, 2009 11:55 AM
David Corn tweet exposes the total inability of an idealogue to use logic in the Cheney speech:
"Cheney: US taxpayer $ may be used to "support" Gitmo "terrorists" brought to US. What $ supports them at Gitmo? Showing demagoguery here."
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 11:55 AM
Where is solar - lunch (just for you compadre). :-)
Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 11:56 AM
"Sometimes my water out here looks worse than urine so I drink distilled water."
Oh, and Carol, I know you won't be around until the evening, but why distilled water instead of spring water? I'm just curious (especially since you're in the medical field, and know a lot more than I do). My thinking has been you get more of the natural minerals, etc. in the spring water. (?)
Posted by: chloe
| May 21, 2009 11:58 AM
"(And I won't be able to get Burgess Meredith's Penguin out of my head as he does)."
LMAO, Pogo! Ain't it the truth!!!!!
Posted by: Patsi
| May 21, 2009 12:00 PM
Some of the comments on the WaPo's "The Fix" are interesting
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/white-house/obama-vs-cheney-a-polling-mism.html#comments
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 12:06 PM
THIS DAY IN HISTORY, 1881, humanitarians Clara Barton and Adolphus Solomons found the American National Red Cross in Washington D.C.
They weren't in favor of torture either
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 12:18 PM
Live Theater lovers alert: Neil Patrick Harris will host the Tonys on June 7
http://www.tonyawards.com/en_US/news/articles/2009-05-13/200905131242267925609.html
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 12:21 PM
Sturg - You get my vote for post of the day! : )
"CC is a very chancey gardener..."
Posted by: blueINdallas
| May 21, 2009 12:26 PM
Corey....
YES!.... Big Papi finally hit a big one!.... actually, his was one of 4 Red Sox home runs hit in one inning..... Fenway erupted like he'd just hit a walkoff homer in the 7th game of the World Series..... Rick and I kept going back and forth between the game and AI.... glad we caught it.....
I haven't watched hockey in years..... but my parents told me the Bruins were eliminated last week..... if your Red Wings are still in it.... I hope they go all the way....
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| May 21, 2009 12:50 PM
Say what you will - but I think Cheney laid out a pretty powerful message. I don't agree with him - but the two Americas will remain divided:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090521/pl_politico/22810;_ylt=ArZLF_UVH0yWSxKZtt6b4vK_w5R4
(Fortunately, right now, Obamawan-kenobi and the jedi have control over the dark side...)
Posted by: warren
| May 21, 2009 12:51 PM
Thanks for the link, warren - I, too, don't agree with Cheney. I don't agree with the premises of his statements - nuclear torrorists indeed, what bullshit - where has there been one shred of evidence that any terrorists have that capability? - and would remind him that the brushcutter's "comprehensive strategy" apparently did not include reading the DPBs and paying attention to what they said.
I believe he's just trying to taunt Obama into releassing some memos he recalls seeing that said so and so said such and such after we made him think he was going to die. Considering where he chose to make his rebuttal from, and the fact that he has been identified as the source of the torture directive and that it was used to gin up, ex post facto, an imaginary link between Saddam and al Qaeda to justify a bullshit war, what else would we expect than an apparently strong defense of the indefensible. He's presented compelling defenses of actions based on nothing in the past, so it's nothing more than certainty in the face of evidence only to the contrary once again. If America buys his bullshit again they are even dumber than I give them credit for. I am not surprised that he presented only a favorable slant to the facts as he would have them appear - it's his MO.
Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 1:34 PM
Here's cheney's speech
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/21/cheneys-speech-obama-dese_n_206165.html
"The vice president was as emphatic as ever in his defense of the most controversial Bush administration policies. Interrogators' use of waterboarding, he insisted, was not only lawful but "skillful" and "entirely honorable."
"Critics of Cheney reacted harshly to the address. Speaking on MSNBC, former CIA special agent Jack Rice described the vice president has having "wrap[ped] himself in the flag with the Constitution in tatters at his feet." Lawrence O'Donnell called the speech "as sleazy a presentation from a vice president as we've had since Spiro Agnew. It was a complete abomination."
I need to read the text of the speech, but I'm guessing that sums it up pretty well since it's wholly consistent with the Magical History Tour he's been on of late.(My apologies to Lennon & McCartney).
Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 1:43 PM
Thought for the day :
" Obviously crime pays, or there'd be no crime. "
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| May 21, 2009 2:00 PM
1602 Martha's Vineyard 1st sighted (Captain Bartholomew Gosnold)
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| May 21, 2009 2:01 PM
1856 Lawrence KS captured, sacked by pro-slavery forces
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| May 21, 2009 2:02 PM
0427 - BC- Plato (Aristocles), Athens(?)
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| May 21, 2009 2:06 PM
Weekly Standard and TPM draw swords and duel
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2009/05/21/whos_really_keeping_america_sa.html?wprss=44
Josh wins
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 2:06 PM
OK, I read it. Stephen King would be proud.
"The key to any strategy is accurate intelligence, and skilled professionals to get that information in time to use it. In seeking to guard this nation against the threat of catastrophic violence, our Administration gave intelligence officers the tools and lawful authority they needed to gain vital information. We didn't invent that authority. It is drawn from Article Two of the Constitution. And it was given specificity by the Congress after 9/11, in a Joint Resolution authorizing "all necessary and appropriate force" to protect the American people."
Really? Seems to me there was a prett fricking specific warning given directly to shrub in a Presidential Daily Briefing, specifying OBL and his plans to hit the US that was dismissed as too, ummm what was the word - vague? Nonspecific? I forget. Maybe they wanted flight numbers before they would actually try to do anything. Slam dunk. Give Medals of Freedom. The JR was for the use of military force, not for the employment of torture, and show me one place in Article II that mentions interrogation techniques and I might buy it - MIGHT. But then unlike dick, I have read Article II. This is the stuff that sounds just peachy, but doesn't hold up to even a modicum of scrutiny.
Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 2:10 PM
Larry O'Donnell on MSNBC:
Larry shows the love.
http://tpmtv.talkingpointsmemo.com/?id=2566806&ref=fpblg
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| May 21, 2009 2:12 PM
11:42 AM ... I think the truest read on Cheney is his cutting and snide anger contrasted with his history of personal cowardice, ducking service in the Vietnam war he himself vociferously supported. Fear and anger are his defining emotions.
Josh Marshall
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| May 21, 2009 2:16 PM
Where is Hunter Thompson now that we really need him.
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| May 21, 2009 2:17 PM
Exactly, C-Bob....
Posted by: Patsi
| May 21, 2009 2:19 PM
yes, where indeed?
Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 2:25 PM
Greetings from the 2012 Iowa Republican Presidential Campaign Bus... (BTW, CG gets a nice plug here)...
"The Iowa Republican has learned that Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour is coming to Des Moines to headline an event for the Republican Party of Iowa. Just yesterday, Congressional Quarterly had an article saying that Barbour will not rule out a 2012 presidential run.
Barbour’s visit to Iowa means yet another potential presidential candidate is making his way to Iowa. Since the last general election, Bobby Jindal, Mike Huckabee, and George Pataki have all traveled to the Hawkeye state. Nevada Senator John Ensign is scheduled to be in northwest Iowa on June 1st to headline the American Future Fund’s conservative lecture series.
In addition to Ensign, Mike Huckabee will be back in Iowa on June 10th to speak at the Iowa Association of Business and Industry Annual Conference, and he will also headline a fundraiser for Republican gubernatorial candidate Bob Vander Plaats."
http://theiowarepublican.com/home/2009/05/21/haley-barbour-headed-iowa-to-for-rpi-event/
Now I'm off to pot some annuals -- Spike
Posted by: Spike
| May 21, 2009 2:43 PM
If you like "Show Biz" stories, you might enjoy this one about John Barrymore I just came across
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=21696598&blogId=235249679
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 2:48 PM
"Ladder work with a chainsaw. Not smart."
flatus, please add our "i told you so" to your own when the evitable accident happens or almost happens.
hint: let go of saw in case of misstep.... better it than you.
Posted by: patd
| May 21, 2009 3:03 PM
hint: let go of saw in case of misstep.... better it than you.
Let me correct that - hint: throw saw in case of misstep... HARD... better it than you.
Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 3:05 PM
"Better take the Roundup to the Cheney plant."
jamie, we are a nation of laws.... he gets a trial first, that is after a few years as a non-combatant toxic plant flooded with water to expose his roots and fellow travelers... but be careful where you toss him,craig. nimby.
Posted by: patd
| May 21, 2009 3:10 PM
I sometimes don't open my email until my brain is fully free of sleep .
My God , thank - you all for helping me on this oven . I went from 17 % to 78% of my goal overnight.
Old man cry's in chair in Texas.
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| May 21, 2009 3:15 PM
pogo, it was my understanding that only the infamous prison/detention part of guantanamo was to close.... never the base itself. imho they'd be nuts to let such a strategic site a gitmo go.
Posted by: patd
| May 21, 2009 3:18 PM
"Let me correct that - hint: throw saw in case of misstep... HARD... better it than you."
pogo, absolutely... and, flatus, make sure the beloved who is holding the ladder below has been warned that said saw is about to be tossed.
Posted by: patd
| May 21, 2009 3:26 PM
"....cry's in chair in Texas"
gol dangit, cbob, git yer ass out'n that thar chair and git to work.... thur's stuff to buy and bucks to buy it with... no lolly-gaggin and tear jerkin today around the ole tm cracker barrel for you pardner. git!
Posted by: patd
| May 21, 2009 3:32 PM
pat, that is my understanding as well, but by bringing Gitmo up as a US territory, I thought I'd look at what it actually is. And the answer is less than clear. From what I can tell, essentially, we are boarders.
Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 3:40 PM
don't let the wind farms get your goat.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8060969.stm
Posted by: patd
| May 21, 2009 3:48 PM
1. Pogo, Thanks for the O'Donnell video. Thank goodness he held back. What on earth does Andrea Greenspan ever bring to ANY conversation, besides someone else's limp and chancred excuses? What possesses MSNBC to employ the pro-hitler, pro-franco, pro-mussolini, pro-tojo, holocast and rape of Nanking denier, and "pro-conventional morals" pat buchanan ??? Also, didn't uberpimp kristol also refer to his pals jack abramov, tom delay, stupor libby, and randy cunningham as mature, responsible, and thoughtful ?
2. Speedy recoveries to Bethyboo and Blonde Wino, and all the other Trail planters who are ailing.
3. Flatus, Please, don't go climbing trees w/ chainsaws. That is a "Kids, don't try this at home" action, if there ever was one. At least, borrow a cherry picker. Pretty please. And, thanks for clearing up the matter about the Korean Divisions in Viet Nam a few days back. I had forgotten that there were 2 of them. We used to say they were as hard as ROKs. Lame, but it passed for wit back then, back there.
4. CBob, You mentioned yesterday that you wanted "to boil 100 ears at a time." Would it be more efficient to just steam them, so you wouldn't have to push many heavy gallons of water around? Or, would there be a difference in the product quality?
5. ripuplicans 2012 Dream Ticket Update : m. bachmann for Prez and Ditz-in-Chief, dreck cheney for Veep and Grand Inquisitor. Strategy : The world needs more fear and pain, subtexts : torture and Republican Depression nostalgia, Programs : deregulate sadism and make every non-billionaire destitute, taglines : "Unleash John Yoo" and "No dollars left behind".
Posted by: xrepublican
| May 21, 2009 4:37 PM
It's Thursday - soccer practice for LP - so I'll be running along. But for warren (who disagrees with Cheney) and others who thought Cheney made a strong defense of Bush practices - including torture - I'll leave you with and excellent IMHO piece by Elizabeth Holtzman - one of those left wing pinko sympathizer former PROSECUTORs about the simple fact that the Constitution - that largely ignored document in this stupid defense of torture on the basis of it being efficacious - prohibits it. There's this little clause banning "cruel and unusual punishment" (read "torture" here).
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/elizabeth-holtzman/the-phony-debate-about-to_b_205960.html
This gets to the nut of the article:
"The FBI rejected torture, our Constitution bans it, and we have ratified the Geneva Conventions as the law of our land, not because we are nation of wimps or bleeding hearts. Unlike former Vice President Cheney, who ran from the Vietnam War, and former President George Bush, who never saw a day of combat in his life, those who wrote the Bill of Rights fought a bloody revolution to win their independence from Britain. They weren't afraid to fight hard to create and keep this country. They rejected torture not out of weakness, but out of strength."
"They weren't interested in any specious claim of torture's efficacy; they knew that torture produced unreliable information. They also knew that forcing people to incriminate themselves was a slippery slope. Once torture was condoned in one case, it would become irresistible in other cases, particularly involving political opponents, religious dissidents and the like. Above all, they knew torture was inimical to the conception of human dignity that underlay our constitutional framework, so they adopted a granite opposition to it."
So when Cheney the Chickenshit stands up and tells how much of a patriot he and his fellow chikenshit Dumya and all the brave lawyers who somehow missed that little clause in their analysis (nevermind the Geneva Conventions which btw are also part of our laws) when they said torture is Okey dokey and the CIA operatives who tortured people were, remember what they had to ignore to go there and remember to IGNORE THEM.
As Ted Baxter said, Good night, and Good News.
Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 4:46 PM
XR,
Actually, it was the Tiger Division that got there first, in the Fall of '65. The White Horse was the one I watched hit the beach in the Spring of '66. As we both know, they were two magnificent infantry divisions. Where were you at back then?
Posted by: Flatus
| May 21, 2009 4:56 PM
OK Chloe, here are my thoughts on the distilled water issue and they could be flawed so you guys feel free to blow them out of the water. Pardon the pun.
From what I understand there aren't a lot of regulations on the water they sell you. I guess they could be filling up those jugs from the septic tank but I avoid buying any brown water. Certainly they could be filling them up from the city water supply, called a Spring, somewhere where the water aint that good.
With distilled water, it is used for batteries, some irons and other stuff that needs to have pretty much everything out of it so it doesn't conduct electricity. I am hoping it is less likely to have chemicals in it. But the plastic container may be leaching it's own chemicals into the water so you can't win.
Most water sold may end up having a higher bacteria count since there is no chlorine to kill it. Just have to assume that and hope it boosts your immune system.
Posted by: ct
| May 21, 2009 5:05 PM
Pat, Pogo, XR, et al.
I safely did my chores this morning. Just barely. I made sure Stinky was nowhere near the ladder--that she was at least fifty feet away in a direction where I could see what she was doing.
I attacked two trees; a maple and an oak. I lost control of the ladder trying to set it aside the maple. I let the ladder fall where it wanted. The damned thing is heavy--one of those extra heavy-duty 24-foot fiberglass things designed for a working weight of 300-lbs.
I managed to get the thing up and removed the limbs I needed to. The work on the oak tree was uneventful. Then I had to cleanup the entire mess.
The job, including many breaks, took about 2-hours. As I finished, the recyclable yard waste truck arrived and i helped the two county contractors load the stuff on. (I saved stuff large enough for the fireplace.)
When I got back into the house the phone was ringing. It was the dentist's office. "Mr Ohlfahrt, are you okay? We were so worried when you weren't here for your appointment." It was of course for 0950 when I thought it was 1050. They said, alright come as soon as you can, but don't rush. I told them I'd be there as soon as I took a shower.
I was 45-minutes late, the first time I've been late for any set time in fifty years. (Not going to meetings that I had no intention of attending doesn't count as being late.) When I arrived, everyone once again expressed their relief that I was okay. And, all this :"relief" was before they knew why I was late.
The doc and her assistant worked through their lunch hour taking care of this old fool.
I got home, ate my raisin bran, and took a two hour nap. I just got inside after round two of chores. This time, though, they were all done at ground level.
And, that, was my day.
Posted by: Flatus
| May 21, 2009 5:13 PM
Whew Flatus, You had me worried for a minute. My heart raced when I read "lost control of my ladder..." and then again when you wrote "...including many breaks...". Be careful what you wrote man. We are all getting old and can't take that kind of stress here.
Posted by: ct
| May 21, 2009 5:17 PM
write not wrote. Sorry it was a long day.
Posted by: ct
| May 21, 2009 5:21 PM
elizabeth edwards was on diane rehm show today but i only heard a few minutes of it... those few were really good. anybody catch the whole thing? how was it in toto? did she say what's next on her agenda other than book tour interviews and cancer treatments? really fine lady.
Posted by: patd
| May 21, 2009 5:28 PM
Thank God Flatus that Stinky is around and I hope she keeps her cellphone on her. Ever since I fell down my stairs and smashed three vertebrae, I keep my cellphone in my pocket when I go down the stairs.
It was a miracle that I had a friend spend the night the day I took my spill. It is very rare that someone is here at that time of the morning. I think it was actually a miracle. Otherwise a gator could have got me before someone found me.
Posted by: ct
| May 21, 2009 5:30 PM
flatus, thank god you're okay.
boy those dentist appts can be terrible.
Posted by: patd
| May 21, 2009 5:30 PM
(+_+)
Posted by: patd
| May 21, 2009 5:32 PM
patd....
I only caught the last 10 minutes of it..... Elizabeth Edwards told D. Rehm that she is running her own little furniture store..... something that is just her's and not her's and John's.....
didn't say what kind of furniture.... there wasn't time to discuss it....
wish I had heard the whole thing.... but my time isn't much my own at the moment....
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| May 21, 2009 5:36 PM
And where do we fax our money to help C-bob with his invention?
Posted by: ct
| May 21, 2009 5:39 PM
It ought to be all right if we use a color fax huh?
Posted by: ct
| May 21, 2009 5:39 PM
Strange but true: Republican accused CIA of lying
While Republicans continue to demand that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi apologize for accusing the CIA of lying, or even step down, it turns out that the Republican who has been inciting the anti-Pelosi crusade himself accused the CIA of a coverup and lying to Congress just last year.
Rep. Peter Hoekstra, the top Republican on the House Intelligence Committee who called Pelosi's charges against the CIA "outrageous" earlier this week, said this about the CIA just last November:
"We cannot have a community that operates outside the law and covers up what it does and lies to Congress."
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/detail?entry_id=40464&tsp=1
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker
| May 21, 2009 5:40 PM
And what is up with USA Today...did they hire Newtie as their editorial director when I wasn't paying attention
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker
| May 21, 2009 5:42 PM
Well I caught my breath so it's off for afternoon chores. Will check in later and try to keep my thoughts to myself more. I can see you rolling your eyes at me Warren.
Posted by: ct
| May 21, 2009 5:47 PM
No way. I don't roll my eyes. I am not as disdainful as most posts sometimes appear...
Posted by: warren
| May 21, 2009 6:21 PM
Listening to the right wing commentators today with all the "can't have them here" ... "ACLU will turn them lose" terror, terror, terror. They have all caught a severe case of cowardice from Cheney and company.
Hallmark of the bully - Everything and anything different sscares the beejesus out of them.
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 6:48 PM
methinks cheney doth protest too much.......
Posted by: sturgeone
| May 21, 2009 7:04 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/garden-variety-politics.html#comment-229674
I am relieved Mr. Ohlfahrt was not relieved. I skimmed the sentence too fast while catching up on the thread, and I read it as "lost control of my bladder."
(^_~)
Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 7:13 PM
Oh c'mon Warren, at least a couple of time, huh? I certainly can't speak politics as well as ya'll do and you have caught me with my dumb on a few times.
Posted by: ct
| May 21, 2009 7:14 PM
LOL, Oh Ivy you thought that Flatus peed his pants? That's reserved for us women. We are more likely to have that stress incontinence.
Posted by: ct
| May 21, 2009 7:21 PM
And where is Mr. Flatus while we're here talking about him? Did he pull too many muscles with all that work in the yard to type?
Posted by: ct
| May 21, 2009 7:23 PM
johnny guitar.....look at them digits fly..............
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkd1LxWAdRI&feature=related
Posted by: sturgeone
| May 21, 2009 7:34 PM
And Flatus I got one of those ladder I think you are talking about. It weighs so much that I can't even move it to put it away. It's open in the back of the room and I use it as my holiday tree. I wrap it with the appropriate colored tinsel for each special occasion. Not kidding.
Posted by: ct
| May 21, 2009 7:38 PM
Ecological Folks, "The Ethical Man" is touring America
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/ethicalman/
Here is the BBC site of his videos touring overseas.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/ethical_man/default.stm
The average US train goes only 54 mph and passenger lines must give way to freight. Pure idiocy.
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 7:44 PM
Dang Sturge. He was playing so fast he had to lick his fingers to cool them off.
Posted by: ct
| May 21, 2009 7:48 PM
XR - "chancre'd excuses" ??? a little graphic,
doncha think? LOL
Buford - I agree - we do have a grand variety in our garden.
Flatus - I was on my way to vote even when I thought it was a waste of effort. The doc at the urgent care facility
was impressed - he voted too and the same way I did.
Said to wait for the cuts to come and see what people say then.
I'm pretty sure BW is hurting more than I. Mine is just a small break on the radius down by my wrist - it's the other bone in your forearm than the ulna. Pain is really no longer worth noticing - aspirin is all. Course I want the film to be read by a radiologist, but that's just a precaution.
I learned that brushing my teeth with my left hand is
easier than I expected but I didn't even try putting on make-up - they're used to grisly sites - they're medical people. The one thing that almost stymied me was taking off and putting on the delightful invention of the bra - it gave me greater appreciation of old boyfriends.
Flatus - the idea of taking a chain saw up a ladder ranks up there with a local man, father of my niece's friend, who set the heels of the ladder in a wheelbarrow. Hard to have sympathy for his broken leg. I also thought it was a bladdermistake at first.
Last word re my sad post yesterday - I posted it very matter-of-factly, not feeling sad. The important thing was the poem.
Posted by: bethyboo
| May 21, 2009 7:51 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/garden-variety-politics.html#comment-229697
Hey Sturge --
Me 'n hubs enjoyed watching that Johnny Guitar clip. What fingers! Thank you.
Hubs is feeling good this evening 'cuz at his lesson today, he discovered a musical error in a published transcription ("Guitar World") of a Jimi Hendrix song titled "Red House." To him, that means he's reading and finally understanding the MUSIC.
Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 7:53 PM
he takes a licking and keeps on picking.........
Posted by: sturgeone
| May 21, 2009 7:53 PM
"There's two kinds of music........blues.....and zippy-de-doo-dah."
---townes van zandt
Posted by: sturgeone
| May 21, 2009 7:55 PM
that johnny guitar was quite zippy.......
Posted by: sturgeone
| May 21, 2009 7:56 PM
Bethy, you'll of course remember how I mangled your moniker shortly after you appeared here. Thanks for finally getting back via my bladder. We're even :)
Carol and Ivy, stop having so much enjoyment at my expense. :) But, to be honest, Uncle Arthur was kicking my butt this afternoon.
And, Bethy, I'm glad you're on the mend!
Posted by: Flatus
| May 21, 2009 8:57 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/garden-variety-politics.html#comment-229707
Flatus --
Is that my Uncle Arthur-itis? I didn't realize he was your uncle too...we must be related.
Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 9:28 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/garden-variety-politics.html#comment-229560
Buford,
Crunchy granola: fruits, nuts, flakes, and sweet as honey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taEHw11MlaU
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 9:32 PM
And Flatus, to answer one of your earlier questions today...my insurance only approved the Forteo for a year, as of now. I don't really think ahead even that far so I don't know what I'll be doing then.
With that black box warning on the Forteo..."osteosarcoma"... I may not have that long. I had to decide whether I wanted to be held up by bone dust or risk the bone cancer to have a little stronger skeletal support system. I took the risk of cancer, kills ya quicker and saves all that money wasted on a nursing home and the misery sitting all hunched up on my Hoveround.
Posted by: ct
| May 21, 2009 9:36 PM
I must say it was nice in the garden and the woods today. Walked out on T-RexVP's speech and stayed out there all day, even when it started to drizzle.
You know what plants are cool? Ferns. I found some growing "wild" in the woods, sub-divided a few, and transplanted them to the garden. I figured if the deer are leaving these specimens unmolested in the woods, they will be safe in my garden too.
Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 9:44 PM
Look on the bright side guys, Uncle Arthur helps you keep track of where you left all your parts.
Posted by: ct
| May 21, 2009 9:47 PM
Cheney is SCARED, IMO.
Cheney was negligent and complicit.
Cheney is SCARED.
Baltasar Garzón from Spain is after him. He can run, but he can't hide. Why doesn't he just STFU? It's cause he thinks he can talk his way outta this. Fool.
"Spanish Court Weighs Inquiry on Torture for 6 Bush-Era Officials "
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/29/world/europe/29spain.html?_r=2&hp
tt
Posted by: tiptoe
| May 21, 2009 9:52 PM
Carol, if it's not one thing, it's another.
There is news, though. First look over this registry to see is it's something you want to get involved with:
http://www.naaccr.org/filesystem/other/NAACCR_Town_Meeting_14Apr2009_final_slides.ppt
Second, even though the potential for osteosarcoma was demonstrated in rodents, so far there is no documented incidence in humans.
So, that makes the most important thing whether or not it works. For that, I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you.
Leave your ladder in the larder. Or, put it on Craig's List. Next time I'll do the job on a weekend and, hopefully, my yard will be full of volunteers eager to break their necks rather than cleaning up after I do mine.
Posted by: Flatus
| May 21, 2009 10:02 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/garden-variety-politics.html#comment-229708
Ivy, we're cousins!
Posted by: Flatus
| May 21, 2009 10:05 PM
Hey TT I hope Cheney wasn't planning on a lot of international travel during his golden years.
Posted by: ct
| May 21, 2009 10:06 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/garden-variety-politics.html#comment-229716
Flatus --
Uncle Arthur married Ruma Toyd and she's my grandmother's sister.
Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 10:17 PM
A woodsy poem I found --
An angel mid the woods of May
Embroidered it with radiance gay --
That gossamer with gold bedight --
Those fires of God - those gems of light.
Dafydd ap Gwillym
Welsh Poet of 14th Century
Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 10:22 PM
My Aunt nape roxen and uncle tyler nol have some advice for your Unce Arthur ritis Ivy.
Posted by: chloe
| May 21, 2009 10:27 PM
I agree Cheney is scared, and I think his bluster is to keep his public behind him, and I think it's working on them. I doubt he will ever change minds, but he will bolster the others - too bad. If he goes silent, the rest will lose some fight in themselves.
Didn't anybody like my line about my old boyfriends skill at undoing bras? I thought it was funny especially because that thought did enter my mind while I was struggling - I thought that guys must have really practiced. You know, that was one of the tests on Monty Python's Twit of the Year contest - how long did it take to get a bra un-done? Oh, well..........
Thanks again for all the good wishes. I just managed a trip to the library and safeway,driving myself. It was okay but I'd prefer 2 hands.
Posted by: bethyboo
| May 21, 2009 10:52 PM
Flatus, I took some advice Solar gave me a while back and hired some young 16 year old guys to help out with my yardwork the last two weekends. It didn't work out very well.
When I was young I created a monster of a yard to take care of. It used to be fun but now it's way too much work.
The two teenagers couldn't even keep up with me at 58, puny and broken down. It actually slowed me down trying to get them to do something. One was a football player so I thought he could handle the heat and intensity of the labor. He brought along a pretty boy whose father had just bought him a new Tacoma the day before.
They both folded after two and a half hours of mostly breaks. I was paying them each 10 bucks an hour. The second weekend I was going to tell the football player's mom I didn't need them but she said her son would bring along another football player so I said OK.
They actually did less work and didn't listen to a thing I asked. I told them not to weed eat where the stuff would get in the pool and I looked over after a few minutes and the entire surface of the pool was covered with leaves and grass. I had just got the damn thing cleaned out after fighting it all Fall, Winter and Spring. They didn't even notice.
They were very entertaining and it was fun having their youth around but I physically can't afford any more work.
BTW, where is our "hot tamale"?
Posted by: ct
| May 21, 2009 10:54 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/garden-variety-politics.html#comment-229609
Chloe --
I'm glad you enjoyed my "coincidence" post. I hope I gave appropriate credit to the author of "Crossing to Avalon," Jean Shinoda Bolen. I love her books and that was the first one I read.
Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 10:58 PM
Flatus,
44th Medical Command. Saigon. In 70 they moved to Long Bihn, but I was long gone. I got some side trips to places around III Corps. If I was a good boy, Cam Rahn Bay or Nha Trang. If I was a bad boy, the hills above Tuy Hoa.
The experience combined with my genetic code and family culture to make me gloomy, nasty, and anti-social for a decade. Other guys boozed, smoked dope, and slept a lot. I drank coffee, smoked Camels, and stayed awake all the time.
Posted by: xrepublican
| May 21, 2009 11:07 PM
Carol - those boys had your number. Wish I'd been there.
Posted by: bethyboo
| May 21, 2009 11:13 PM
I don't think that dreck cheney is mouthing off cuz he's scared. The constant cheney, hoekstra, newt, boehner, rush, hannity, savage avalanche of fear mongering, blusterfication, and bushlit is all Big Ugly Frogging. It is all done just to keep people from noticing that the republicans in Congress are doing everything they can to prevent the Dems from fixing everything the ripuplicans broke. ripuplicans would rather see the USA descend into hell than be shown to have been totally incompetent and corrupt.
Posted by: xrepublican
| May 21, 2009 11:16 PM
"More pleasant far to me the broom
That blows sae fair on Cowden Knowes
For sure sae sweet, sae soft a bloom;
Elsewhere there never grows."
Scotch Song
Can't say what it means, but it's pretty-sounding and was in the same book with the Welsh poem that I found in an antique store.
Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 11:16 PM
Ivy - sounds to me that it refers to scotch broom which is apparently a nuisance plant out here - yellow flowers and takes over very quickly. If that's what it is, the poem seems kinda ironic.
Posted by: bethyboo
| May 21, 2009 11:26 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-c.cgi#comment-229729
Bethy, I think that's the plant - there a drawing in the book of a yellow-flowered plant, labeled Common Broom.
I googled the author and found a wiki link to the book. I had no idea it was well-known and popular enough to inspire a TV show. It was a musty thing I had to treat with talcum powder to rid it of the "old book smell" - a tip I got from the antiques dealer in lieu of a markdown. Turned out to work reasonably well and I've since used it on other old books.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edith_Holden
Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 11:34 PM
Bethy --
If the broom plant a pest, I guess Craig doesn't want it in his garden...he has T-RexVP - a big enough pest - sitting there already. (^_~)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Koeh-200.jpg
Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com
| May 21, 2009 11:46 PM
Ivy - what a neat idea for "cleaning" up old books - makes sense.
that is a pretty flower and I'm not sure whether it's a pest out here. It seems to me I've been told it's invasive but my sister just failed to remember . Maybe KGC will know.
Here's another one of those moments. I found a poem in old old book at a friends house. It was printed at the beginning of a chapter. It's my favorite way of looking at life and has been very instrumental in teaching me how to react. I've decided that just about your whole life is decided by how you react.
Now I'm going to cheat and put it off till tomorrow. My hand is getting really tired of typing like this.
Asta manana!
Posted by: bethyboo
| May 22, 2009 12:12 AM
Bethy --
I look forward to your poem tomorrow. This blog may be due for a poetry day...I hope Craig agrees... if not, well, I guess we'll have to apply for a poetic license.
(^_~)
Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com
| May 22, 2009 12:38 AM
xrepub, I like what you've posted tonight.
:-)
tt
Posted by: tiptoe
| May 22, 2009 1:01 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/garden-variety-politics.html#comment-229732
Bethy --
You were right the first time. Scotch broom is a pest.
http://www.nps.gov/archive/redw/scotchbr.htm
Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com
| May 22, 2009 1:01 AM
ct, I hear SPAIN's nice at this time of year.
tt
Posted by: tiptoe
| May 22, 2009 1:03 AM
Nha Trang? xrepublican, I lived there for almost a year, 575th Med Det, 6th Convalescent Center, Camp McDermott, USArmy, near the Air Force base, which was the NHA airport for a long time but is now non-operational.
I worked closely with the 283 Dustoff medic helicopter crews, also. 1970 and 1971.
Posted by: DexterJohnson
| May 22, 2009 1:07 AM
Thanks, XR and Dexter.
Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com
| May 22, 2009 1:10 AM
Here is the weed I spent part of my day eradicating. Almost as bad as kudzu which thankfully is not in my yard. But this Roundleaf Greenbriar thorny parasite weed is here - it will wrap itself around a host tree and eventually choke it to death. I am fairly ahead of it after 4 years of pulling, but it will sneak back as soon as it thinks I'm not looking. Not even supposed to be this far south, but it can't read either.
http://www.weedalert.com/weed_pages/wa_roundleaf_greenbriar.htm
Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com
| May 22, 2009 1:19 AM
"Oh no. Now I know how W felt when Dick Cheney was in the bathroom and the generals needed to know whether to push that button now. There was only one option. I had to stall."
http://grumpygardener.southernliving.com/grumpy_gardener/2009/05/when-is-a-weed-not-a-weed.html
Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com
| May 22, 2009 1:30 AM
Sturg-
Top this one
The Vogues - Five o'clock world
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXKRwqBmC4A
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| May 22, 2009 1:44 AM
Up every mornin just to keep a job
I gotta fight my way through the hustling mob
Sounds of the city poundin in my brain
While another day goes down the drain
But its a five oclock world when the whistle blows
No one owns a piece of my time
And theres a five oclock me inside my clothes
Thinkin that the world looks fine, yeah
Tradin my time for the pay I get
Livin on money that I aint made yet
Ive been goin tryin to make my way
While I live for the end of the day
Cuz its a five oclock world when the whistle blows
No one owns a piece of my time, and
Theres a long-haired girl who waits, I know
To ease my troubled mind, yeah
oh my lady, yeah
oh my lady, yeah
In the shelter of her arms everythings OK
When she talks then the world goes slippin away
And I know the reason I can still go on
When every other reason is gone,
In my five oclock world she waits for me
Nothing else matters at all
Cuz every time my baby smiles at me
I know thats its all worthwhile,
yeah oh my lady,
yeah oh my lady, yeah, fade........
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| May 22, 2009 1:46 AM
My final garden post of the night...I'm sure this is the postal lady's favorite stop.
http://grumpygardener.southernliving.com/grumpy_gardener/2009/05/mr-postman-look-and-see.html
Posted by: ivygreen.myopenid.com
| May 22, 2009 1:54 AM
Prickly Pears .............
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| May 22, 2009 2:27 AM
xrepublican -
We boil, we steam , we roast, & we bake. I'm makin' 400 degrees at noon, on wheels. And that's the twist. The wheels let me point the oven at the sun at 9:00 A.M. to preheat, by 10, I'm cooking. Every 20 min. , you move the thing , just a bit.
I can't wait to start using it. I've raised $490 in 5 days, it's just unbelievable . Everyone else wants to see the son-of-a-bitch run too.
Posted by: Colorado Bob
| May 22, 2009 2:47 AM
cbob.....a nize little bit of fluff here along those lines......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOf3rqu12G0
Posted by: sturgeone
| May 22, 2009 3:15 AM
But then there's this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxNEiZhpinY
Posted by: sturgeone
| May 22, 2009 3:26 AM
Rez.......in your late night travels with Charlie (pride) did you ever hear anything about that grass cutting story? it's a nice story, it'd be even nicer if it's true.........
Posted by: sturgeone
| May 22, 2009 3:28 AM
and paycheck takes it home.......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPrSVkTRb24
Posted by: sturgeone
| May 22, 2009 3:51 AM
cbob''
you should be fully funded now and then some for your
solar-oven project
Posted by: mqw
| May 22, 2009 4:17 AM
Californians rejection of any new state taxes should
be a warning to washington that there is a limit to
their tax and spend'' then spend more policies''
especially the democrats since they are in control now'
Posted by: mqw
| May 22, 2009 4:37 AM
XR, Dex
I guess we had the country pretty well covered. I was with the 184th Ord Bn in QuiNhon. We took care of the ammo for the 1st Cav and the 4th ID. When they were mounting an operation we would have the ammo waiting for them.
When I went to Vietnam at the end of '65 I expected it to be much like Korea. It wasn't. Indeed, they seemed like polar opposites. The greatest major difference I can think of to account for the difference was the French colonization of the country.
The officer leadership was terrible (with a couple of notable exceptions). So self-serving and so bad that I took a discharge when I got back to the States and enlisted in the AF. It was much better in the sense that our mission was better defined and we were more focused.
In any case, I was never more happy to leave any place than Vietnam. When I left, a runner came to my tent at 1300 and told me I was leaving on an airplane at 1600. My orders would be waiting in the orderly room. Well, I had two hours to spare.
It was really nice when I got back to Cleveland and there was Stinky, waiting on the ramp. Really, really nice.
Posted by: Flatus
| May 22, 2009 7:16 AM
"With Alaskans facing the highest energy prices in the nation, it's disappointing that our governor is turning thumbs down on federal funding that could help our families and communities reduce their energy bills..."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090522/ap_on_re_us/us_palin_stimulus
Posted by: blueINdallas
| May 22, 2009 7:19 AM
Ivy- ha, that'll teach the neighbors. Prickly pear even grows here, but not to that height.
Posted by: oldseahag
| May 22, 2009 7:19 AM
Oh Ivy, that weed you linked is all over this area along with a million others. Right now I am having a time with those burrs. Don't know the official name but every time I take Maggie for a walk we go round and round trying to get them out of her hair.
If I have to get close to her face to nab one, she shows me her teeth. I just laugh and tell her that them little choppers aren't going to intimidate me.
When I can't pull them out I have to cut them out and Maggie is starting to look like she had a fight with a lawn mower. It's her punk look.
Posted by: ct
| May 22, 2009 7:31 AM
"I was paying them each 10 bucks an hour."
ct, next time negotiate a set price for the job... they do it alone, take their sweet time or can bring in the whole team and finish in half hour.... either way you've got the job done without the irritation of cracking a whip.
Posted by: patd
| May 22, 2009 7:36 AM
https://www.fundable.com/groupactions/groupaction.2009-05-15.2155051577?email=coloradobob1@mac.com
way to go, cbob!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwEMxYggoKQ
Posted by: patd
| May 22, 2009 7:44 AM
Pat, I thought about that but there are too many things they can destroy out there and telling them ahead of time didn't work.
I had them using my 30 year old Sears weed wacker. It can take down a house, cut plastic pipe and wiring. The last guy who used it did take out a good bit of siding on the house.
They also wouldn't know the good plants from the weeds. Even with me watching they screwed up the pool as I turned my head for just a minute.
Posted by: ct
| May 22, 2009 7:44 AM
cbob, that extra over the top will pay for a lot of butter
Posted by: patd
| May 22, 2009 7:46 AM
Oh, and they didn't want to get dirty. They were in shorts and short sleeves and pulling some weeds out of a little fish pond I made. One watched as the other was trying to keep his hand clean. I asked if they were planning on wearing the same clothes to go out on a date that night?
Posted by: ct
| May 22, 2009 7:48 AM
I had to finally say lets move on and there's a bucket still sitting in the little pond. I will have to tackle that myself since I am not allergic to mud.
Posted by: ct
| May 22, 2009 7:50 AM
Evidently they don't make kids like they used to. I was in my 30s helping my stepfather cut some rice one summer and when I got thru, I was so dirty that I had to smile so you could see the whites of my teeth. The AC on that big machine was broken.
Posted by: ct
| May 22, 2009 7:55 AM
machine? AC?
Posted by: sturgeone
| May 22, 2009 8:09 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/garden-variety-politics.html#comment-229741
Ivy, Given the heart shaped leaves and the fact that it winds itself around a tree and chokes it to death, it isn't comforting to know it is also called "The Love Vine"
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| May 22, 2009 8:09 AM
Carol,
Absent having Bethy there as foreman, I really don't have any advice except seeing if they're dressed for work and have callouses on their hands.
Is there a Future Farmers or 4-H group nearby? Would the native plant society have a list of willing volunteers to help you?
Posted by: Flatus
| May 22, 2009 8:10 AM
flatus......you might know this one......how many beans in a can of Irish Pork n' Beans?
Posted by: sturgeone
| May 22, 2009 8:10 AM
Sturg, that got me by surprise, too.
Posted by: Flatus
| May 22, 2009 8:10 AM
Irish Pork 'n Beans? You're pulling my leg, now.
Posted by: Flatus
| May 22, 2009 8:12 AM
239 beans.
One more and it would be two farty........
Posted by: sturgeone
| May 22, 2009 8:13 AM
I am laughing now, by golly.......
Posted by: sturgeone
| May 22, 2009 8:14 AM
I knew you had something up your sleeve!
Posted by: Flatus
| May 22, 2009 8:15 AM
We had a wonderful webcam session with our family in Korea this morning. Four generations of Ohlfahrts all trying to talk at the same time. Marvelous!
Posted by: Flatus
| May 22, 2009 8:19 AM
Collection of articles on Obama/Cheney smackdown
http://americanheartland.wordpress.com/2009/05/22/522-heartland-morning-front-page-obama-v-cheney-in-a-national-security-smackdown/
Posted by: jamie44.myopenid.com
| May 22, 2009 8:36 AM
"cbob''
you should be fully funded now and then some for your
solar-oven project"
Posted by: mqw Author Profile Page | May 22, 2009 4:17 AM
...wow! mqw, If I remember correctly, I think you may be the one who originally brought up this whole solar oven fund raising idea to begin with. (?) Regardless, good work everyone. Congratulations CBob... and it only took 5 days.
https://www.fundable.com/groupactions/groupaction.2009-05-15.2155051577?email=coloradobob1@mac.com
Posted by: chloe
| May 22, 2009 8:44 AM
"We had a wonderful webcam session with our family in Korea this morning."
The marvels of technology.... I love being able to do all the things we couldn't do twenty years ago (or much longer). The world is a lot more fun.
Posted by: chloe
| May 22, 2009 8:46 AM
mornin'
Carol, having a kid and having been one, and knowing a lot of kids as a result, I can say with some certainty that they still make kids like they used to, there just aren't as many as there used to be that don't mind hard, dirty work. I attribute it to play that is too clean and organized instead of the old go out and see what the woods have to offer approach. For enough money some kids will do about anything.
Well, I really am not hearing many vigorous defenses of Cheney's rebuttal yesterday beyond the predictable supporters, but then again I don't listen to"conservative" infotainment. I did stumble across Keith Olberman responding to Cheney's speech while I was surfing last night, and I gotta give Keith credit for that one. Even David Brooks is not giving Cheney's speech much support, and pointed out that Cheney lost in thepolicy wars - to Condi Rice.
Here's a link to an interesting article in the New Republic by Jack Goldsmith, a former Bushco Asst. AG. It's pretty long and detailed, and I haven't absorbed all of it yet, but i appears to be worth the read.
http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=1e733cac-c273-48e5-9140-80443ed1f5e2&p=1
anyway, mornin'.
Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com
| May 22, 2009 9:00 AM
pogo, what do you think about this rebuttal to 666's speech?
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jRK80GKnOMCvHIx8d3Ssdf6UQNUAD98B9I980
Posted by: patd
| May 22, 2009 9:08 AM
cheney's more like 664 1/2.
Posted by: sturgeone
| May 22, 2009 9:11 AM
"I attribute it to play that is too clean and organized..."
For today's suburban kids _everything_ is organized from the time they wake up until they go to bed. It's terrible.
Mom & Dad have their fingers in everything including doing the homework, transporting to and from school, organizing sports teams, etc..
It's a terrible preparation for adulthood. I don't blame the kids, they're exhibiting the ethos they been taught.
Posted by: Flatus
| May 22, 2009 9:11 AM
when i was a kid and we'd ride around on christmas day sometimes, the streets were full of kids........space suits, cowboy outfits, roller skates, bicycles, etc........now if one rides around on christmas day, it's like a ghost town out there........
Posted by: sturgeone
| May 22, 2009 9:14 AM
Colorado Bob's Solar Oven $550 goal
$610.00 secured Goal met. Pledges are still being accepted until deadline. Time Left:
20 days 14 hours 47 min. 35 sec.
let's hear it for c-bob
Posted by: patd
| May 22, 2009 9:15 AM
POLITICO’s Carrie Budoff Brown has a nine-page “interested parties” memo (our favorite kind) from PAUL BEGALA on “COUNTERING REPUBLICAN ORWELLIAN RHETORIC ON HEALTH CARE”: “Veteran Republican pollster Frank Luntz has circulated a memo which attempts to teach Republicans how to kill health care reform by misleading people. Because they know they cannot win the argument honestly, Republicans are resorting to mendacity. Democrats must not let them get away with it. … When Republicans repeat the Luntz talking point that our plan will deny treatment and increase waiting, we should say: ‘Every day, insurance companies deny people care. As health care costs keep rising, it will only get worse. And yet the Republicans are committed to a system that puts profits ahead of people. That’s why they oppose Pres. Obama’s reforms and why they have no reform plan of their own. Our plan reduces costs, increases access, and protects choice.’ … When Republicans repeat the Luntz talking point that they’re really for reform, we should say: ‘Their plan is the status quo. Their plan is rising costs.’ … Do not let the Republicans kill reform by co-opting our message. When they repeat their talking points, you must punch holes in them. I hope this memo helps empower you to do so.”
http://www.politico.com/playbook/
Posted by: warren
| May 22, 2009 9:24 AM
pat, Darth can't be happy with that turncoat Gates.
Here's another article on the two speeches - from the WSJ - with some interesting links under the "More" heading on the left about 2/3 down the page.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124291383880043289.html
I'm not sure how I'm getting into these WSJ online articles - has the Journal changed it's "pay if you want to see the article" policy?
Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com
| May 22, 2009 9:28 AM
warren, wonder if they can refute elizabeth's charge
http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2009/05/21/elizabeth-edwards-1-of-every-700-went-to-pay-salary-of-unitedhealth-ceo/
Posted by: patd
| May 22, 2009 9:31 AM
http://www.consumerfreedom.com/ the spawn of luntz speak
the rightwing specializes in obsfucation --it's all they have left.
An educated public is the best defense.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker
| May 22, 2009 9:31 AM
flatus, of course I live in a glass house - with a kid who is into every frickin' sport, plus his band, and who has to be steamrolled into calling his buddies to just hang out when he doesn't have this game or that practice scheduled. At least he does have and love to ride his bicycle.
sturg, those were the days, my friend (hmm, I think there may be a song in there somewhere). Yep, I have to laugh - we ran across a box of photos that had been stuck in a drawe when we moved, and there was a photo fo LP on Christmas morning when he was 5, dressed in his "Woody" cowboy outfit, complete with guns, riding his new bicycle. It coulda been from 50 years ago and been me in my Roy Rogers outfit on my new bike on Christmas morning.
Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com
| May 22, 2009 9:42 AM
Won't a government run heathcare plan present a huge cost savings by paying its administrators and employees salaries that are far less than those paid in the private sector.
"Regarding insurance agent commissions, we reported in the story that Blue Cross paid out $15 million in sales commissions last year, or 3 percent of the entire premium dollar collected from customers."
http://www.billingsgazette.net/articles/2007/08/19/news/state/41-notebook.txt
Posted by: warren
| May 22, 2009 9:44 AM
patd - I was writing my post before I had even read yours. I makes perfect sense to me that huge profits that usually go to health insurance CEO's and bigwigs can be passed on as savings to patients under a public plan.
Posted by: warren
| May 22, 2009 9:46 AM
McClatchey was not persuaded by Cheney - finding that his speech contained omissions, exaggeratons, and misstatements. Gee, who could have ever guessed that Cheney might be less than completely candid?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20090521/pl_mcclatchy/3237981
"A top-secret 2004 CIA inspector general's investigation found no conclusive proof that information gained from aggressive interrogations helped thwart any "specific imminent attacks," according to one of four top-secret Bush-era memos that the Justice Department released last month.
"FBI Director Mueller Robert Muller told Vanity Fair magazine in December that he didn't think that the techniques disrupted any attacks."
I don't suppose that 2004 CIA AG report is one of the documents Cheney wanted released.
Posted by: newpogo.myopenid.com
| May 22, 2009 9:55 AM
NEW THREAD.. http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/05/what-does-bush-think.html
Posted by: craigcrawford.myopenid.com
| May 22, 2009 10:18 AM
Chloe
Thanks for the Email,,,you have one now also. Going to a Sunday show this holiday weekend,,,Is M,,a holiday?
PAt,,,,,,,thanks for that Blondy joke,,,,I liked it,,and used it already,,,I will tell you one later tonight,,,,but I never met a dumb blond,,,,,well maybe one,,,Sue, long story
Carol,,,,I still think that you should have someone helping around your house,,,,,but NO,,,NO,,,you should never hire football players,,,they are lazy, out of the football field,,,and they are primadonnas,,,when that kids father gave him a toyota,,,,all he needed was gas $,,,but not willing to work for it,,,,,,,,,and you can get someone that is a good worker for ten bucks and hr.cash,,,,,all kids are what they used to be,,,but some are used to being given what they want without working for it,,,,,On of my biggest,,,father moments ,,,was when one of my sons Bosses,,,(we were at a bar listening to his band,,,,surprised me,,they were very good) told me that Tommy was a very very good worker.,,,I used to get him up,,,very early in the am,,,and help me pour concrete on the weekends,,and treated him like any other laborer.,,,hard.
Pogo,,,,,,Thanks for the shout out,,,,and here,,,check it all out,,,but the # 2,,,is what Im ordering for your lunch today,,,gonna send a copy to Mrs P,,,she will know how to keep you in line,,HA!
You are what you eat, and that includes your brain. So what is the ultimate mastermind diet?,,,
Don 1
Don't go messing with my string theory,,,,the same as religion ,,where did you get that from,,,???
Posted by: SolarCrete
| May 22, 2009 10:29 AM
Pogo,,,,don't know why I couldn't get this link in with the comments to you,,,,but here
http://www.newscientist.com/search?rbauthors=Kate+Douglas%2C+Alison+George%2C+Bob+Holmes%2C+Graham+Lawton%2C+John+McCrone%2C+Alison+Motluk+and+Helen+Phillips+
Posted by: SolarCrete
| May 22, 2009 10:32 AM
Posted by: sturgeone May 22, 2009 3:28 AM
Hey bro,. . musta missed that one. Shoot me a link or speak a little slower to this Coors soaked brain.:-)
Posted by: Rezdog
| May 22, 2009 2:10 PM
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