Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

Craig...typo on "not"...should be "no"

Solar

Pediatrics Bulletin

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/99/4/505?ijkey=ee0fdea6dd94a1da795a0f6ce97536b9611cbe54&keytype2=tf_ipsecsha

Sperm damage and testicular cancer are through the roof in just the space of 25 years in half of all human males.

What it is doing at the lower levels in fish, amphibians and reptiles is starting to verge on catastrophic in disappearing species.

When was last perfect transition? Seems to me every president has a few nominees that have to drop out. I'm glad Daschle saw the writing on the wall and stepped aside.

Dr. Deeeaan.......

Hard to argue with that, Craig.

Obama got his landslide because unlike most politicians, people actually believed him. Now are demanding that he walk the talk he talked.

This country is hurting. Obama got populism to rear its sometimes uncontrolled head. If you don't think this can be dangerous just watch "All The KIng's Men"
or a good bio on Huey Long.

Don't rouse the rabble unless you are ready to deliver what you promised.

oooh...Gibbs just punted when asked if Dash gets to stay on as "Health Policy Czar" even if he's out as HHS Sec.

fixed, Lard, thanks

Climate Change or Change Climate ......

MoJo - Economic death spiral sucking the life out of the U.S. courtesy of the Pentagon

http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/tomdispatch/2009/02/economic-death-spiral-at-pentagon.html

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/02/change-climate-claims-daschle.html#comment-196197

CBob, Did you see Shuster's "Muckracker" last night? Featured global warming denier with no counter argument. Shinbone needs to go after David.

Alicia, NYT reports he's not taking the Czar post, either.

Mr. Holder said there would be "No witch hunts of Wall Street CEOs".

Not only do I want a witch hunt, when it comes time to burn them I want focusing solar collectors to do the job.

Jamie----thanks, for the link,,,incredible,,,,and doesn't the milk that kids drink make them advance sexuality..(Hormonal) ?? I advise all my family not to drink it,,,and yes what about cancers,,,are we in for a mass plague in the future,,,due to new strains of harmful bactirea and all ,,,a little pruning by mother nature,,and or evolutiion???

About Daschle ,,,I have been going back and forth about him,,,,Im glad that it was decided for me,,,,,but I think that Obama will still give him his pay back,,,for his support in some other way?

I want my witch hunts with a small carbon foot print.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/02/change-climate-claims-daschle.html#comment-196197

ha, CBob, i knew you'd say that

You know, I am GLAD he is not going to be in the Administration. I just can't help feel that people like Daschle, who has profiteered by making millions on behalf of the health industry is hardly going to be the strong guide for pushing universal health care and other reforms. He seriously is a poster child of what's wrong with the whole DC government culture that rewards former politicians with lucrative contracts and luxurious lifestyles. Like I said before, i am starting to believe BOTH major parties are as guilty at personal largesse in numbers that are indefensible !

CBob, I doubt Eric Holder can legitimately hold the balls of corporate CEOs to the fire when he himself has profited handsomely as a lobbyist (opportunist) for obtaining and expanding personal wealth. Am I the only one who things this is TOTALLY corrupt?

Solar...

Milk is good for you. I drink a gallon a week between coffee and cereal and just plain drinking it.

That's 2% and not whole anymore.

E.T....

It depends if fraud was involved or not. Holder may have made a fortune, the question is did he do it legally.

If CEO's or Holder for that matter made it through fraud that is another story and if fraud the CEO's should be prosecuted like any other crook is.

Out of here, time to go home and see the kitties.

The Obama Cabinet's New Theme Song: " ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST."

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/02/be-careful-what-you-ask-for-mr.html#comment-196169

Doubt he will... remember when Daschle got his ass dashed out of the Senate, one of the major issues for South Dakotans was the fact that he and his wife stated that their primary residence was in Washington DC. I doubt he even knows what South Dakota looks like anymore.

As for fellow Hillary supporters kinda grooving on the fact that the people who slammed her so much in the primary and worked passionately to stop her from getting the nomination are now dropping like flies.....

I AGREE.. I don't know that it's really an adult reaction as much as a pedantic "SOD OFF SUCKERS" gut of glee.

(I still like that President Obama is president. I just hope he can start sticking to the promises he made during the campaign. Saying one thing during a campaign and doing another is not "change you can believe it." It's the old status quo, though to be fair the intransigent REPUGS are determined to stop him and they are,so far, effective road blocks.).

Jamie -

Thanks I went and looked at that , I just caught the end of it yesterday.

I note the discussion didn't include the 118 degree temps in Australia, or the drought in the Argentine bread basket.

Adelaide recorded the highest night time temperature ever , 93 degrees.

"Not only do I want a witch hunt, when it comes time to burn them I want focusing solar collectors to do the job."

CB, I'm a traditionalist. IMO there's nothing more meaningful than an old-fashioned auto de fe.

I hope it wasn't because of the tax controversy but because of the ethical lapses. A number of people have commented on the "high road" Obama promised and all the pompous hooey about other candidates and their relationships to special interests. There was a refusal to acknowledge Obama's hypocrisy at the time and oh look karma taking a big bite in the ass of the new administration.

I did not think the TARP program was a good idea and I see nothing in the current package that gets to the heart of the problems. As long as bankrutpcy judges can cram down vacation houses but not primary residences there will be no fix. Obama has refused to acknowledge the housing market is the problem and has offered nothing to stablize it let alone begin to restore it.

In the SF Bay area alone
Local Homes Lose $202B In Value

Service tallies equity lost in Bay Area homes with 27% found to have negative equity.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/02/03/BUFC15LT56.DTL&type=realestate&tsp=1

Getting all huffed up about bonuses when doing nothing about housing is just so much hot air.

REPORT: Under Lobbyist Pressure, Obama to Gut "Buy America" - Battle Moves to Commerce Committee
by: David Sirota

http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=11259
Heck of a job Barry!

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/02/change-climate-claims-daschle.html#comment-196205

ET -- I agree with you on the Daschle thing.

Let's go back to the whole reason the Daschle choice was exciting to begin with. It was because of his knowledge of the Hill and the legislative process. Not because he was seen as someone who could wheel and deal with the health care industry. Good riddance. He wasn't the only capable person out there.

Now it is Charlie Rangel's turn.

KC, your clarity of vision is like a cool breeze. Keep blowin' sister.

KGC

"I hope it wasn't because of the tax controversy but because of the ethical lapses."

The guy tried to defraud each and every one of us. Not only is it an ethical lapse, IMO it's felonious assault against the people of the United States.

Let you or me try to do the same thing; what do you think would happen?

Rez
As far as I can tell it's oe legged stool, I've seen nothing that gets to the heart of the problem.

Flautus
I fault him for knowing it was a mistake last summer and doing nothing until January to fix it and for having a big sense of entitlement. Apparently there were other tax problems but I haven't seen much reporting on those.

The mass media as always sucks and is doing a rotten job of explaing what is going on.

AP

Of all your worries, Milk is probably the most dangerous

http://www.notmilk.com/

As an organic chef friend (who dearly loved the occasional hamburger) said - Milk, the perfect food . . . for baby cows.

Been drinking milk all my life, other than the hairy palms, it's never hurt me.

Pogo

I love virtually all milk products all the while knowing that indulgence is another nail in the coffin

One should treat them like sugar --- no value, tastes good, don't use but if you can't live without .... make it rare.

The Nation hammers Daschle:

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat/404778/don_t_mourn_for_daschle?rel=hp_picks

I read or heard somewhere where some scientist blame milks hormones for little early child development in girls,,,and should be a concern for breast cancer no??

as a Hillary supporter..... I'm not doing the jig.... I really want Obama to succeed..... this country needs some success..... but I will say that Obama has put himself into a very small box through his own fault....

AP.... remember what Ghandi said about milk....
A. humans are the only mammals to drink another mammal's milk
B. humans are the only mammals to drink milk beyond weaning

Champ.... I have no idea what OFOS means..... so I guess I can safely say.... no.... I'm not in it....

Bowman & pogo.... I read Rick your responses about Derek Trucks.... we're both thrilled about having a chance to see him and his band....

Posted by: SolarCrete

Hormones added by some in the dairy and meat industry, it does not occur in milk naturally

Thank you monsanto!

Under the leadership of Dan Benedetti, Clover Stornetta Farms produces high quality organic and conventional milk products and continually strives for improvement.
Clover Stornetta Farms, Inc.

Clo the Cow

When Monsanto introduced the bovine growth hormone (rBST) in 1994, many dairy farmers hoped to increase their profits by increasing production. On California’s north coast, Clover Stornetta Farms saw a different kind of opportunity.
http://www.sustainablenorthwest.org/stories/clover-stornetta-farms-inc

Totally non-dairy for 21 years.

His birth name is his legal name. That's pretty elementary.

Gandhi was 4' 11"

KKGC

That is correct,,,,I should have added that the milk industry adds the hormones,,I know that you are into all of the organic foods,,,and I agree with all that you say about them,,,,I even get honey by a local supplier,,,,honey is about as pure a food that you can get,,,,used for a long long time for medicinal purposes,,,,

I'm with Marion Nestle on milk

as long as you drink organic milk and aren't lactose intolerant it's be a good part of your diet. I love cheeeeeese, ice cream and milk and cookies!

KGC

I even agree with your arguement with Jack---I do see his point ,,,but one should not just give up,cos the odds are stacked against you,,,,you and your friends might ,,,,will make a diff at some time,,,,good luck,,,,Monsanto--lol not me,,,

I actually don't know how tall Gandhi was, but America's prowess on the basketball court will suffer dramatically if we go off dairy.

Otoh, A smaller people would need to consume less food.

I used to love milk and cheese. Now the smell of cheese reminds me of baby barf. Except the Limburger types, which smell of well-used outhouse on a July afternoon.

Not if it was legally changed to Barry Soetoro from Barack Obama.
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"3. He took elected office and was admitted to the Illinois Bar under an alias

No record of any legal name change from ‘Barry Soetoro’ to ‘Barack Obama’ has ever been found."

http://defendourfreedoms.org/flysheet.html

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/02/change-climate-claims-daschle.html#comment-196224

Pogo, And even they stop drinking it when they are weaned.

I don't lose any sleep worrying about the stuff in milk that might kill me. I don't really just drink it - but I do put it in coffee and it and yogurt on cereal. Hell, with all the whole milk I drank as a kid, if it'll kill ya, I'm dead - I guessI just haven't noticed. But we do buy organic milk for LP - although if it ain't got chocolate or cereal in it, he ain't touching it these days. Oh, yeah, and like KC says, cheeeese, ice cream and milk and cookies (PB if you don't mind - hey, I live dangerously).

RR, you'll love it. He plays the shit out of that SG.

Renee- Did you know that platypus are the only mammals that lay eggs? I read something the other day that the reason that senators are giving Daschle a hard time is because it's a tax issue and the people they represent are having tax problems/money problems in this economy and they don't like hearing about a guy like Daschle not paying his taxes. A news story about the UAW and a factory near where I used to live. I know at least 3 people I went to high school with who work at this place.

http://www.lenconnect.com/news/x1556210330/Outlook-bleak-at-Lenawee-Stamping?popular=true

In my drinking heavy day's --when hungover I used to take a big spoon full of icecream,,,and take a big swig of cold milk at the same time,,,,,that used to shock my system and good to go Ha!

Xrep..... if Ghandi really were only 4' 11"..... he and I would have something in common....

ooooohhhh..... though I really am glad that Ghandi never said a thing about drinking margaritas..... :0)

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/02/change-climate-claims-daschle.html#comment-196229
Solar

Hormones in cows. Birth control hormones in water ... we are flooding children with chemicals they should never encounter in real life.

Craig Ferguson said last night that people knew Michael Phelps had a weed problem when he filled his pool at home with Captain Crunch and Milk. LOL!

"Did you know that platypus are the only mammals that lay eggs?"

Corey.... that's not true...... politicians lay them all the time.....

Actually these days my only downfall in dairy is cheese. I REALLY REALLY like cheese .... Is goat better than cow because Feta is high on the list?

I know cheddar is way up there in the thou shalt nots so I need to join sinners R us.

A. For the umpteenth time, their is no evidence that his name was legally changed. Just because a non-custodial step-father calls you Barry, doesn't mean your name is not Barack.

B. Wait until all you cheese eaters have to have that goop reamed out of your arteries. Then you'll be sorry.
Tall, but sorry.

I meant 'there', of course.

Countmme on the Serious Sinners R Us...I love milk, cheese -- the whole nine yards....

Touche, Renee!

Spiny Anteaters also lay eggs.

xr, how's the forehead? Mine is almost back to normal after laying off for a couple months pointlessly pointing out the obvious (a.k.a. beating my head against the wall). But I guess someone has to do it - I'm just glad it isn't me.

Jamie ---When I buy presents for any in my family---it is always some kind of thing that takes care of them a little,,,,,for example for Christmas I gave out 2 water filters that attach to the kitchen faucet ,,,,,,and I could not agree more about the harm of chemicals in everything that we eat,,,and drink,,,,,there is a terrible price that we pay,,,and not even know it,,,for progress,,,,,and IMO it started with the very first time that we learned about farming,,,and stopped our nomadic way of life,,,,,etc etc....but u get the pic,,,

There is Parmigiano-Reggiano which is relatively low fat

"There was a huge scientific breakthrough today. Researchers say they are very close to finding someone from Obama's Cabinet who's actually paid their taxes." -Jay Leno

Corey's post resentment of average citizens seems to be what is going on...the header in the Chron is :Editorial: Does anyone important in D.C. pay taxes?

KGC

As usual, your perspective is much too accurate.

For me there is a huge lapse between talk & action with the new administration illustrated by removal of the provision to allow bankruptcy judges to modify loans from the so-called "stimulus" bill.

To my surprise even the NYT is critical of this failure in an editorial yesterday.

"Sins of Omission: Help for the Beleaguered Homeowner"

"One serious disagreement has already taken place--between Senate leaders & the Obama administration--and it has been decided in a way that can only weaken the overall package. The senators had planned to make foreclousre relief part of the bill, by including a measure to let bankrupt homeowners have their mortgage modified under court protection.

But administration officials--who say they support the bankruptcy fix--rejected the idea of putting it in the bill out of fear that it would cause Republicans to delay or reject the package. "

NYT concludes: "Bankruptcy reform is the stick to whatever carrots the taxpayer will be asked to pay for".

The bankruptcy reform would not just assist those in bankruptcy but would provide the leverage to prompt lenders to "voluntarily" modify terms knowing the alternative could result in a bankruptcy judge ordering modification of loan terms.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/02/opinion/02mon1.html?_r=1

For the umpteenth time, you defend the indefensible.

Yeah, there are probably things that some politicians do or don't do and other politicians probably don't personally think it's a big deal to them, but they realize it's a big deal to the people who voted them into office, so they feel pressured to take a stand against those other politicians.

Thanks for asking, Pogo. I remember the same crap when Jimmy Carter was running for Pres. A girlfriend of mine didn't believe he could become President because he operated under the pseudonym, Jimmy. At least she provided some happiness with her wackiness.

We had a fellow in the White House named Leslie King, who called himself Gerry Ford. 2 Presidents, Chester Arthur and Woodrow Wilson, were the offspring of foreigners. I presume Arthur had a boyhood nick-name like, "Chet". I can't imagine anyone calling Wilson by a nick-name, unless it would by "Lofty", "Bigot", or "Stuffy".

"Gandhi was 4' 11""

I can understand why he shunned milk--but if were I, I would have chosen milk over my own urine.

Gordo

I believe he is a lawyer. There is a 50% chance that is his job description.

The other 50% of tyhe time he is a valiant defender of truth justice and yadda yadda

Jack

I don't need to defend yet. There hasn't been any sensible attack. I'll wait until someone offers some ACTUAL evidence, before I exercise my skills as a consultant for the defense.

Ghandi spent a good deal of his adult life shunning everything.

xr, how dare you defend the indefensible against claims of the unproven? LOL, oh my god, I think I peed myself.

xr, you a lawyer?

Flatus,

Gandhi probably would have chosen milk over you urine, also. However, there are some very odd things in Indian cuisine. I suspect that Gandhi consumed a fair amount of clarified butter in his time.

Pogo,

No, I did investigations in criminal cases as a youngster. When I got older, I consulted with attorneys who needed guidance in litigating, particularly voir dire.
I also wrote briefs and appeals in 4th and 5th Amendment issues. I left for the antiques game in the mid-80s.

I may not be the world's greatest expert on the Rules of Evidence, but I know rumors, urban legends, and flim-flammery when I smell them.

Well, you all have a good evening. Tummy says "Go home and eat." Brain says "OK."

xr, now that you mention it, I remember you telling me that some time ago.

And the smell is pretty strong.

I thnk there's a locical fallacy that goes something like the absence of a thing proves its existence - if there's not, there should be. We certainly see it in spades here.

If SoetorObama has nothing to hide -- then why hide these?

- Certified copy of original long vault birth certificate
- Certified copies of any and all passports and passport applications held in the U.S., Indonesia, Great Britain and Kenya.
- Certified copies of any and all school applications, school registrations, grant or student loan applications or funding received for Occidental College, Columbia University, Columbia College, Harvard University
- Certified copies of any U.S. Port of Entry Records
- Certified copies of any documentation pertaining to Social Security. Documentation showing multiple social security numbers being held
- Certified copies of documentation showing a social security number being applied for in the state of Connecticut
- Certified copies of immigration and naturalization records
- Certified copies of any records showing legal name and name change. "

http://drorly.blogspot.com/2009/01/proof-of-service-to-us-attorney-patrick.html

ct ---------------------------

DARK SECRETS: INSIDE BOHEMIAN GROVE

"WHAT IS BOHEMIAN GROVE? SEE THE TRUTH AS DOCUMENTED IN ALEX'S FILM, DARK SECRETS: INSIDE BOHEMIAN GROVE Since 1873, the Global Elite Has Held Secret Meetings in the Ancient Redwood Forest of Northern California. Members of the so-called "Bohemian Club" Include Former Presidents Eisenhower, Nixon and Reagan. The Bush Family Maintains a Strong Involvement. Each Year at Bohemian Grove, Members of This All-Male "Club" Don Red, Black and Silver Robes and Conduct an Occult Ritual Wherein They Worship a Giant Stone Owl, Sacrificing a Human Being in Effigy to What They Call the "Great Owl of Bohemia." Now, for the First Time in History, an Outsider Has Infiltrated Bohemian Grove with a Hidden Digital Video Camera and Caught the Ritual on Tape. That Man is Alex Jones, the Exclusive Digital Video is Just Part of His Shocking New Documentary: DARK SECRETS: INSIDE BOHEMIAN GROVE"

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-82095917705734983

Okay. I've had it with the Demodumbs and the Rebublicraps.

For the past double decades those in power have raped and pillaged and now the bill is coming due.

For once in your miserable, useless overstuffed and comfy lives do what is right and take care of the nation. This President was elected with a mandate to do just that, and he needs to get off his "I just want to be nice and agreeable" ass and do it.

I want to hear some screams of outrage and I want to hear them on the floor of the Senate.

Bohemian Grove

Every year the Boho's have public show as a benefit for the Monte Rio Schools one year Colin Powell appeared as one of the village people.

There used to be a lot of public demonstrations when the Grove was a much more controversial place --now it's just a bunch of old men who want to wear dresses and get drunk. I think the average age is around 90.

The majority of the members are not political but theatrical.
The initiation fee for regular voting membership is said to be $8,500, and dues are set at more than $2,000 a year. Because the regular members require entertainment, "men of talent" pay greatly reduced fees. On Wouk's acceptance, for instance, he was put to work writing a history of the club. . .

A high point of the middle weekend was the performance of The Low Jinks, the Grove's elaborate musical-comedy show. Over the years the Jinks has become the leading entertainment at the encampment, surpassing the mannered and ponderous Grove Play, which is performed the next weekend. The Jinks is vigorously lowbrow. . .

The girls were all played by men, and every time they appeared -- their chunky legs and flashed buttocks highly visible through tight support hose -- the crowd went wild. After one character called the secretaries in the show "heifers," the audience couldn't resist breaking into "moos" every time they came back onstage. . .
http://prorev.com/2008/07/reporters-arrested-trying-to-crash.html

XR ---What was--is your line of work,,,your main line of work,,,sounds like you had many?

They used to dismember and sacrifice their victims to an otherwise unknown god named Care (as in worry). As if anyone in the bush crime family had cares.

This pagan rite of the bohemian grovers probably inspired the heathenish Burning Man festival. Lots of nudity, outdoor hi-jinx, ersatz human sacrifices, low-down pagan deities, blah, blah.

And the speculation as to why Daschle withdrew begins.

First up--George Stephanopoulos---

"A double-barreled combination of a blistering NYT editorial & a front-page story raising questions about Pres. Obama's commitment to ethics reform in Washington convinced Daschle he had to go."

http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2009/02/why-daschle-wit.html

The Bohemian Grove is just the country club there is also a Bohemian Club in SF. It's just down the river from me. And most of the year no one is there. But when they are in town --lots of private jets and hookers are here too.

Carol.....
isn't Coast to Coast hosted by that connoisseur of conspiracy theories, Art Bell?

pagan deities...... YUM!

File under what a dip
Some maroon sheriff in SC is thinking about filing charges against Michael Phelps.

"When I buy presents for any in my family---it is always some kind of thing that takes care of them a little,,,,,"

I like that concept a lot, Solar!

Art has been gone for a wnile. Now it is George Noory and Ian Punnett on weekends. I don't get to listen anymore since I got a TV out at the camp and am also usually lurking here until sleepy time.

The more I see and learn the more I believe in conspiracy theories.

Eric Holder is approved! I guess helping Mark Rich is ok compared with not paying your taxes and being a special interest sleeze ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

SolarCrete,

Art and antique appraisals. The world of art and antiques is chock full of fakes. For instance, faking antiques has been a huge business in China for at least 1,200 years. 3,000 years ago, Egyptian Pharaohs chiseled the names of previous previous kings off of monuments so they could take credit for the creation.

Just as I posted my last comment this site went nuts. It is the only website that wouldn't come up for me and now it is coming up all weird. Is something wrong or did the computer God see my message about my Trailmix addiction?

i think the site is up and working again. sorry for the burp.

Carol-----same here,,,,just roll with it ----I think that they are experimenting with way on how to do things here??

and by the way, i use out facebook group page to post updates when there are technical problems here, so you might want to bookmark it:

http://bit.ly/J6QA

XR----thanks ,,,very interesting,,,,the only antique around here is me,,,,how much for a 59 year old,,,,cigar injun :-))

Didn't help that it came just I was typing conspiracy theory. When I couldn't get back in I started shaking and sweating. Whew, glad it is over.

kgc,

Good point on Eric Holder. Early on, he was the appointee, who was supposed to have the toughest time getting confirmation. Who knew he'd look so good compared with the tax dodging twins and poor Ms. Killefer, whose sin seems to pale in comparison with theirs?

Another interesting question is the timing thing. If Daschle's problem surfaced before Geithner's would he have been the one who was confirmed?

Timing is everything.

SolarCrete,

You are not an antique. An antique has to be 100 years old. For import (duty free) purposes, add an extra 30 years padding.

At 59, you are merely a collectable.

Now, that I know how young you are, I'll expect to be treated with more respect.

xr

If you aren't limping along up to 65, stop bragging.

The kids have been after me for years so I'm finally doing a "sort of " autobiography beginning tomorrow so I will be aging rapidly all month.

Oh you mean about my crack last night,,,,,Ok,,,,,,,I watch the antique show on pbs with my wife sometimes,,,,,,and all of the appraisers that I have seen ,,,don't look like they would have a sense of humor,,,,and here you are with two of em,,,,,,XR u quake me up,,,,,thanks

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CT

Never blame on conspiracy that which can be accounted for by stupidity and greed.

Typekey sounds like a hassle. I rarely have problems, and when I do, I just close and re-open my browser. If you geezers are still using Internet Explorer, you need to get a different browser, like Firefox.

The smaller font on the time stamps is discombobulating, Craig. Should have warned us.

Just like in a husband and wife relationship, sometimes it comes to an end.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090203/D964CQ181.html

Katherine.....it may not be completely fair of me to think in this fashion, but it seems to be one strong facet of my visions of earth to date that when SC makes nationwide news, it's either for the chicken-poop jewelry this old boy took on the Johnny Carson show, some sheeerif charging some kind of really strange shit, or susan smiff driving her kids into the lake.......

It's always weird......

GORDO,

If you can get the Kenyan Ambassador to sign a sworn statement , duly notarized, to the effect that the Government of Kenya has proof that President Obama was born in Kenya, then you would finally have one piece of evidence regarding your contention.

The utoob bit was nothing. It purported to be a recording of a purported radio program that had a purported conversation with the Kenyan Ambassador, in which it SEEMED as though the purported ambassador agreed that President Obama was born in Kenya. I trust that you can spot the weaknesses in this alleged evidence.

I was proud of SC when they voted down Real ID, sturge, even if it was because of Rev 13:17. Don't be so hard on them.

Damn Obama for trying to have a White House with ethics! He's taking the blame for Daschle saying "I screwed up!" It's not his fault these people screwed up.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/02/change-climate-claims-daschle.html#comment-196306

XR - Speaking sanity to the insane is always fruitless. Gordo enjoys his aberrant fantasies. Destroying them would make him unhappy.

Craig

the page changed again,,,,,its like the twilight zone,,,,we don't look like us,,,,us looks like them,,,,you know the ones that Gordo say's that----------help------help-------going down for the third timeeeeee,,,,,,,,h p

I'm not hard on them.......I'm one OF them..........but I have this old video tape of a guy from the upstate in SC who went on Johnny Carson with chicken-poop jewelry......

and hell, susan coulda been from ANYwhere

Jamie,
62 in a bit. & I'm not bragging. I owe it all to God, Sweetie, and a few doctors.

SolarCrete,
I had a chance to be one of those Antiques Road Show appraisers, but at the last moment, I had a heart attack. I wasn't asked again. Of course, the appraisers have to look humorless, they are talking about people's family 'treasures' and the loot people have been dreaming about lugging home from the Sotheby's auction. People are really offended if you joke about their dreams; their money.

Sure it is Corey. We just had 8 years of no responsibility, so now it is time for a change. I bet that that the vetting process has gotten a whole lot more intrusive for potential Obama Administration appointees.

Before Daschle gave up today I was all for him assuming the appointment, in eighteen months after serving his time in federal prison, then he could do it for free as part of his community service.

May I ask what type of art you appraise? Your "area of expertise"?

Well sorry for the heart attack,,,,and it looks like Sweetie takes good care of you,,,,,,as far as the road show ,,,,you probably wouldn't have contained the urge to tell them off like you do me,( I can just hear you,,,,,Hey lady are u shitting me that pile of junk ain't worth 2 dead ants),,and got booted any way,,,so ,,,,

May not have been Obama's fault that Daschle screwed up but it didn't look good for him that he was trying to excuse him for a week or so. His so called tough vetting process lost some of it's cred. IMO.

I know. Obama has to be very careful. He said he didn't want it to look like he had a double standard as far as taxes were concerened. Kinda like the lobbyist issue.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/02/change-climate-claims-daschle.html#comment-196312

Well creeping up on 65 and God had nothing to do with it unless you count the bar at the intersection that didn't come down allowing my car through and the very large train with very bright light as I looked to my left while crossing the tracks.

Who will be asked to replace Daschle?

Wouldn't Howard Dean be the logical choice or is the rift with Rahm too much to overcome?

"Among those considered for the post before it went to Daschle was Howard Dean, the physician-turned-politician who ran for president in 2004 and recently left as head of the Democratic National Committee. Other possible replacements include Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius, Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, and Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland." AP

I vote for Dr. Dean. We need to get the media involved.

Justice prevails as Daschle withdraws. Now Obama needs to show some guts and stand up to the Republicans. ...enough of the pie-in-the-sky stuff..

Coreen

I like E Rendell,,,,he is very likable,,,knowledgeable and can teach the dems how to stay on message,,,,and is a friend of Hillary Clinton,,,,,the last reason is the best reason,??

Anderson Cooper on CNN's No Bias...is holding Obama's feet to the fire.

And add an even more interesting name to the list:

Former Senator Bill Bradley, also known to some of us
as "Dollar Bill" Bradley. (And that is in a good way!)

If I had to select--either Howard Dean or Bill Bradley

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/03/daschle-replacement-buzz_n_163667.html

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/02/change-climate-claims-daschle.html#comment-196323

OD

You're right. Things are moving too fast. Obama has only had the power for 15 days. Modern time spans being what they are that is practically an millennium. He needs to come out swinging. It's sad that things move so fast, but it is what it is.

Really good "radio" station:

www.tuneinseattle.com

If Obama is really interested in reaching across - both lines and time....

Newt G is one of the most studied and up to date on Healthcare.....

A. Sorry GORDO.

Just more of the same old non-evidentiary crap.

B. Champ,

Isn't ahmedinajad just about ready for forced retirement ? It won't be a moment too soon. As to hiim and his pal hugo, if the republicans had put us on a plan to eliminate the use of petro 8 years ago, neither of those guys would have the money to make trouble. Same with bin laden. What a waste.

Fearless Leader on Shuster

Ping...

He said SOME of his appointments would be Republicans, not ALL of them!

Now u r getting my hopes up,,,,do you think that he would take it if offered?,,,,,I can see him asking H C for help on the Health care issue,,,and maybe there will be a slim chance of us getting one with him in there,,,,,he is all business,,,while some are all politics??

Max, you gotta cuto out this logic stuff. I't throwing me for a loop.

Xrep

As this is the week where apologies are in fashion.
Let me apologise for calling you a lawyer.

Now who did I have you confused with............
That may be even a worse insult.

Jack

I don't know from know from no Ahmadinejad, xr, I just wanted to know what kind of art you appraise.

Sorry xrepublican.

Just more of the same old excuses about THE USURPER in the WH.

GORDO...my theory is that at some point you are going to collapse onto a hospital gurney, go into shaking convulsions with your chest undulating unnaturally, and then suddenly a hole will burst open in the middle of your chest and out will pop...OBAMA...the ALIEN!!!

And only then will you be satisfied, and be able to tell everyone you told us so. Except you'll be dead.

So that's kind of the downside of that scenario.

Somehow, the Obama Administration forgot the VETTING process when choosing who to nominate for his cabinet.

Or maybe he didn't forget the VETTING process....he had to nominate these tax evaders as part of his quid pro quo

Oh...I forgot to mention that before you have the chance to die, the little OBAMA alien will finally produce his "long vault birth certificate" and then roll it up as tightly as he can and whip you with it until you are unconcious while he's standing on your chest. And then you'll die.

So at least you'll have that.

Speaking of aliens:
--------------------------
"4. He probably lost his citizenship.

An Indonesian citizen at age 6 -9, having been adopted by a national, he may be in the US illegally-10. USC §1481(a)(2) provides loss of nationality by Natural born citizens upon "taking an oath or making an affirmation or other formal declaration of allegiance to a foreign state ... after having attained the age of eighteen years," in violation of 8 U.S.C. §1401(a)(1). Indonesia did not allow for dual citizenship. If Obama got an Indonesian passport in 1981, when he was 20 years old, he effectively renounced any U.S. citizenship he may have had."

http://defendourfreedoms.org/flysheet.html

I don't think Dr Dean is gonna be the HHR guy. I have heard that the riff is too great between the Obama camp and the Dean camp.

Keep talkin' Gordo. No matter what you say, you're not going to get a date with Sigourney Weaver.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/02/change-climate-claims-daschle.html#comment-196343

Awooga!

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/02/change-climate-claims-daschle.html#comment-196340

Sorry Gordo,

Just more of the same idiocy with no proof from the wackos.

I still cannot get over the fact that Timothy F. Geithner, the United States Secretary of the Treasury is a tax evader....the person who heads the Department of Treasury, is a tax evader! What kind of change is Obama bringing to Washington?

Still the alarm. It was simply an ad-dumbinem attack.

"Newt G is one of the most studied and up to date on Healthcare....."

ROFL! Newt's plan: The Ice Float (especially for cancerous soon-to-be ex-wives)

Nope, I'm telling Craig on you, and then he's going to make a whole thread about what a dick you are, which will lead to some hurt feelings and a lot of soul-searching.

Plus, you're off horn-duty, indefinitely.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/02/change-climate-claims-daschle.html#comment-196348

Champ

No AWOOGAH necessary. Gordo doesn't talk, he just regurgitates. Unfortunately, this is one of the places where he deposits the vomitus.

"ROFL! Newt's plan: The Ice Float (especially for cancerous soon-to-be ex-wives)"

To return the favor, Patsi shoots and scores.

Newty is a particularly noxious dweeb.

Sorry, if Craig follows previous patterns, he will have to find an equally opposite dick to chastise alongside me.
You volunteering?

Either way, I want the horn back. Besides, it was just GORDO. He doesn't care what others say or think. He's like the Alex Karras character in Blazing Saddles. Just give him a bowl of rancid chili to eat, a campfire to fart around and a horse to knock out, and he'll be happy.

besides, Who names their offspring Newton?

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/02/change-climate-claims-daschle.html#comment-196352

Feminism and ex wives aside, I still remember the poor politician who got in trouble for saying that "everyone owes a death".

There probably should be some sort of "thou shalt not do anthing" for those elderly past 75 or 80. I think hospices, dying at home, and gentle care for the final months should be high on the list of compensation in insurance as opposed to the invasive knives and tubes.

Check out that station I posted, Lard; tell me what you think. You have to listen for at least 20 minutes; it's very eclectic without being obnoxious.

Champ. Will do...as long as you promise they'll be playing no Buddy Holly songs. Thanks.

Lardo,

If you want a radio station, then create your own. Pandora is wonderful. I have three radio staions of my creation. You can do the same

http://www.pandora.com/

So Champ...I'm tuning in, and the first thing I'm hearing is what I think is a 12-year-old Alanis Morrisette tune.

Should I stick with it?

Okay. It's getting better now. I'm going to be patient.

Jamie...thanks for the tip on creating my own megalomaniacal radio station.

Would they also allow me to place a giant, rotating, internally-lit sculpture of my head on the highest building in town with a do-loop of a recording of me shouting: "I'm King Of All I See"?

Just curious. That would really sell me on it.

Obots:

http://rense.com/1.imagesH/obey_dees.jpg

Jamie, Hospice, at least down here, will provide some assistance for people even if they don't have any money or healthcare financing. It is a wonderful program.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/02/change-climate-claims-daschle.html#comment-196363

Lardo, Sorry about that but no. Now where self indulgence is concerned, I manage quite well with a blog, You Tube, Twitter, and Pandora ... but I'm the modest sort.

P.S. If you do go on Pandora and want to listen to my creation .... just tune in to "Piano Bar"

Wow...I'm into minute number 20 at least, and loving it. Thanks to both Champ and Jamie, I think I have now found a permanent soundtrack to accompany my Trailmix browsing, not to mention another site for future ego development.

These are both great sites. Consider them bookmarked, Trailmix friends!

Just a thought---maybe we could use the Tune In Seattle site as our unofficial, common background music for everyone to stream in as they post here -- at least at night. It's eclectic enough to suit everyone -- I'm hearing some country right now -- and may just give us one more thing in common.

Just a thought. Thanks, and good night.

PS: GORDO, did you just fart again?

Can you listen to Pandora while on another website? If so, how?

Cool. Glad you like it. Time for work.

CT

If you have "Tabs". You can put Pandora on one and just listen while surfing on another. You can also send your "station" to your phone, but I haven't tried that.

ct,

you need to download Firefox and learn how to use tabbed browsing. right click on link, open in new tab.

you could also open another window with Internet Explorer, but using IE at all is a bad idea.

On the whole I think it was for the best that Daschle stepped down. So far I don't think Obama has made any serious mistakes. I'm waiting to see results - at least Wells Fargo cancelled the Vegas party.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/02/change-climate-claims-daschle.html#comment-196362

Lardo,

You have the option of listening to their choice of music in a variety of genres or building your own. Right at the moment I'm listening to Sinatra and Our Love Is Here to Stay on my channel who just gave way to Nat King Cole and "Stardust". .... as you know, I have VERY good taste. :-)

Never used anything but IE. Don't know anything about the others.

Carol,

I'm on IE, but I can flip back and forth between tabs on two or more sites. One of the computer mavens may be able to help you.

Carol,

I'm on IE, but I can flip back and forth between tabs on two or more sites. One of the computer mavens may be able to help you.

Champ,
Sorry to get back to you so late. Fine arts. I am a generalist, however, I was one of the few guys in the Twin Cities outside of the Minneapolis Museum of Art who knew anything about Chinese porcelains.

Most of my appraising has been for people who want to know if they should upgrade their insurance. Unfortunately, the auction houses and galleries are seeing erosion of values. In most cases, I can safely say, no you don't need an upgrade.

I just figured it out, thanks for letting me know it was possible. You guys keep teaching me so much.

WhskyJack,

No offense taken.

I've been called worse than 'lawyer'. I've been called "trial lawyer", "Philadelphia lawyer", and "#*%&@". Hasn't affected my life much.

Bethy, check out that video Gordo sent a link to on Bohemian Grove. That is the guy who was on C to
C that night. Gordo has given me a couple of neat links when I needed them. I would miss him if he died LL. We all have a little something to offer.

I am enjoying some Enya.

I just went from Aretha to Roberta Flack

You have all now been corrupted ...

Posted by: GORDO | February 3, 2009 9:06 PM : "Indonesia did not allow for dual citizenship. If Obama got an Indonesian passport in 1981, when he was 20 years old, he effectively renounced any U.S. citizenship he may have had."
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Last time I looked, Indonesian law had no effect in the US. When did we switch over to their way of doing things ?

xr wanna do some sight unseen appraisals? I have two Edward Weston photographs I bought for the 1st anniversary of my marriage. You know, the paper anniversary and all. Edward made the negs in about 1929 or so and they are of the Sea Nautilus shells. One of the photographs was even kicked out of the Armory Show in NYC in about 1929 or 30. They are contact prints from 8x10 inch negs. The prints were made in about 1959 by Edwards son Cole who was left instructions on how to print the negs. My prints are dry mounted and matted and framed. Any ideas as to the worth?

California Supreme Court Hearing set for Prop *8 case

http://www.sacbee.com/1095/story/1596513.html

For you Bethy,

The worshiping the owl ritual reminded me of a really neat owl experience I had a couple of years ago. I have these two huge cypress trees that sit right at the edge of the river out at the camp. The two trees are about 4-5 stories tall and they are merged together in several spots. It is a good thing they are because one is hollow and I think the other tree is actually holding the hollow tree up.

Two years ago, when my big sister was visiting, I noticed that a barred owl had made a nest way up high in a hole in one of the tree. She had 5 babies, the smallest I named fussy butt because that is all I could see as he sat up high up on one of the branches. He was the last owl to leave the nest. It was so special watching those owls grow up. I was very sad when they finally all left.

Several months later I was sitting outside thinking about my owls and wondering if they all made it when I noticed an owl sitting up on top of a telephone pole out in the front yard. As soon as I noticed the owl, as if he was waiting for me to do that, he flew off and joined four other owls. The five of them flew back and forth throught the trees in the woods across the street. It was strange. I think they knew I was thinking about them and just wanted to let me know they were all OK.

READ --THINK

"If Obama got an Indonesian passport in 1981, when he was 20 years old, he effectively renounced any U.S. citizenship he may have had."

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/02/change-climate-claims-daschle.html#comment-196387

Dooty, If it isn't in XR's field, you could probably get a good idea here

http://www.artfact.com/catalog/searchLots.cfm?scp=m&artistRef=NJYOQR4JAR&ord=2&ad=DESC

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/02/change-climate-claims-daschle.html#comment-196389

Carol,

If you watched that videof that Craig posted earlier, you would know that I have this thing about Owls. That is a great story about your five owls.

Good NIght all .. sweet dreams.

I saw Craig on the Shuster re-play...love those shirts...I have two of that same color. David Shuster's tie looked like an amplified virus strain.

thanks jamie I have a pretty good idea but you never know. I looked at the site and it looks like I have to pay money for a real look at prices. Not gonna happen. but thanks anyway.

Ok I am feeling VERY feisty and pissed off again....

Sorry for anyone offended...

U.S. Plans to Curb Executive Pay for Bailout Recipients - NYTimes.com 05:10
Source: www.nytimes.com

The Obama administration is expected to impose a cap of $500,000 on the compensation of executives at companies that receive large new infusions of
federal bailout money.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/04/business/04pay.html?_r=1&hp

My thoughts:

President Obama is right. The compensation levels for CEO's is untenable and morally (and possibly fiscally) bankrupt. This has long been a disgusting festering infection in corporate organizations. My only regret is that they can even get $500,000. THEY DON'T DESERVE IT... THEY NEVER DID AND THEY NEVER WILL. We must understand that we continue to create a super-rich class society through this fat cat compensation schemes, while everyday people, who bust their asses to perform, earn nominal wages and benefits.

AS McInsane said: "THE FUNDAMENTALS OF OUR ECONOMY IS STRONG". Translation: " My best friends in corporate America continue to live high off the feeding trough and the rest can eat cake".

ah, the site burped again, should be working again now

Posted by: GORDO | February 3, 2009 10:30 PM :
"If Obama got an Indonesian passport in 1981, when he was 20 years old, he effectively renounced any U.S. citizenship he may have had."
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Not necessarily. Where'd you get that crazy idea, anyway ?

As to the insulting, "READ --THINK" instruction he left me, I see he doesn't follow his own advice. Show us the passport.

I wonder what the ultimate significance is of Coleman winning the argument to have additional absentee ballots looked at, and possibly counted, in the contested U.S. Senate election from Minnesota.

"Senate recount trial judges: 4,800 ballots may get a look
The decision expands the evidence that can be considered in the recount trial, giving Coleman the opportunity to put more ballots into play in his effort to erase a 225-vote lead for Franken."

http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/senate/38890229.html?elr=KArks8c7PaP3E77K_3c::D3aDhUec7PaP3E77K_0c::D3aDhUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiU

Okay all you rich Crawfordlisters now you can buy a new car and get a tax write off.

Senate votes to give a tax break to new car buyers.

http://apnews.excite.com/article/20090204/D964FSQO0.html

I'm sure you all have at least $25,000 to spend on a new car. At least I believe Ping might since he's a lawyer. Anyone else make enough to help out our worsening economy by buying a new car?

My vehicle is nineteen years old and I don't owe a dime on it. My co workers ask why I don't buy a new vehicle since I could probably afford the monthly payments.

I tell them that at least I own my vehicle and if worse comes to worse and I lose my job and become unable to afford rent that I at least have a place to sleep.

Yes I have slept in a car before so it wouldn't be something new to me. At least its a roof over my head and I don't have to worry about it being repossessed.

So for all of you who can afford it why not stimulate the economy and buy a new car and take on some more debt for the sake of our economy.

Joking of course since most of us are in the same boat as the Depression continues to Deepen.

With the announcement of Judd Gregg R-NH nominated as Commerce Secretary, I am not particularly troubled by that, however... his insistence that the Democratic Governor must choose a Republican replacement strikes me as odd. Isn't that sort of like the "pay to play" controversies that we've been reading about recently?

Oops it's 5:40 am and I have to get to work...

anon, as long as the tax breaks are for lower and middle class opportunities to get a car, I don't have a problem. The super rich already have the means to buy as many cars as they want.

'THE FUNDAMENTALS OF OUR ECONOMY IS STRONG' bwa-ha-ha

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/02/change-climate-claims-daschle.html#comment-196398

excuse me, but I will be having a Belgian passport soon but that does not mean I have renounced my U.S. citizenship. I will hold dual citizenships, both American and Belgian, and it is quite legal. Your argument doesn't hold up to scrutiny

ok is every fricken person in bed or are my posts just boring? :)

E.T....

I said that about the Repugs buying the Senate seat of Gregg since how could they come out and say they had been assured that a Repug would be chosen by the Democratic Governor to fill the seat.

Sure sounds like they bought the seat to me. How about you?

Also E.T. I'm not saying that the tax break is bad, what I'm saying is while many middle class working poor Americans are losing their jobs would it be a wise thing for them to do by taking on more debt.

I don't think it would be since most Americans are deep in debt and the Banks continue to raise interest rates if one payment to any credit card company is late to loan shark rates for all the other credit cards the persons may have.

Not good sound fiscal policy for Americans to take at this time if you really care about my opinion. Not trying to imply that your wrong, just that right know people are starting to buy the grocery's and paying for them on their credit cards.

The credit card bubble will burst this year as more and more people can no longer afford to pay them as they lose their jobs and homes or apartments if they don't own a home.

It is going to get really bad no matter what President Obama does I'm sad to say. Even though he's trying to help ease the pain for our country and citizens.

Bush\Cheney and the Republican Party have destroyed the economy here at home and around the world. The people in other countries are starting to protest and riot in there countries and one day they will here in America.

Be prepared for its coming to a neighborhood near you in the not so distance future.

Good night.

Oh yeah and Craig... the comment on a "Perp Walk" is hilarious. I had to google it, but ok! I learned a new phrase.

Oh Anon- I understand your point... and if people don't have money, tax cuts won't fix anything. Man, I never thought i'd see an economy as bad as this one...

Oh before I forget.

It was in a story somewhere else and I don't remember where though another peanut plant unregistered with the FDA has been involved in the peanut butter poison scandal.

This one of course is in the most corrupt State in the Union. Any guesses?

Texas, now who would have believed that?

Me thinks that no one should be buying and eating anything that has peanuts in it or made with peanuts. You could get very, very sick and maybe even die.

Brought to you by your Republican Party contaminated peanut products.

Mr. Horsedooty,

Jamie outed a major secret of the appraisal business. Now, I'll lose all my clients and have to sell apples on the corner to feed my insulin habit. I shall die even more destitute than I expected, and be buried in a mass grave in Potter's field like Mozart. No Great Pyramid, no terra cotta army, no trove of Danegeld. Sob.

Artfact will sell you access to the results of art sales worldwide for a day, a month or a year for a reasonable sum. I believe they provide 24 hours access for $25. For most people, 24 hours will cover just about everything. However, the pictures they show do not give you with the perfect knowledge of the condition of an artwork the way seeing it in person would. Iow, I don't think a sight unseen appraisal is worth a penny, and I wouldn't want to give a mistaken impression and be the cause of later disappointment. There is already too much disappointment in the world. The condition of the work is extremely important. Any tears, scuffs, stains, etc. on a fairly new print, such as a Weston, severely decrease the value. It would be different if it were an original of John Quincy Adams as sitting President or Queen Victoria as a teen ager. Then a little oily thumbprint in the corner might not matter at all. The son's prints will not acheive the same high prices that the old man Weston's prints will. Hand written notes giving instructions as to how to develop a particular print can add to the value.

Appraisals are educated guesses. One day a work offered at auction may not get a single bid at any level. On another day 2 people with more money than sense may both fall in love with that item and bid it into the stratosphere. Which day was the fluke ? Maybe both. So, art and antique appraising is more of an art than a science.

Take pics of all your treasures and write brief descriptions. The pics with descriptions should be kept in a place faqr from the treasures. These are the proofs of your ownership and the quality of the items. You keep the record away from the goods, because you are far more likely to have a fire than a burglary.

Btw, I can't imagine a Weston being kicked out of a show, unless it was one of his nude boys. Or, unless they objected to showing the old man's images as printed by the son.

Sweetie has promised to read to me, so I'm punching out of this job. I haven't worked this late in years.

Ct - you are SO lucky to have had that experience with the owls! I see no reason to doubt that they were aware of your watching them as they grew - I'll bet you talked to them too so they could remember your voice.
We don't have to endow them with language skills to believe that they remember things, and sights and sounds could easily have imprinted.

Thank you for that story!

Mr. Tom,

Coleman's lawyer in this recount action is Joe Friedberg, a TRIAL LAWYER, a CRIMINAL DEFENSE LAWYER, and a DEM !!!

(natch. name a decent republican trial lawyer, besides Karl Cambronne. can't can ya ?)

So, if the trial had failed, all the rightwing radioactives would have screamed that the loss was a Dem plot cooked up by Friedberg.

Franken's lead looks really tough to overcome. Thank goodness.

"Show us the passport."

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/02/change-climate-claims-daschle.html#comment-196398
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From my 5:22 PM post

- Certified copies of any and all passports and passport applications held in the U.S., Indonesia, Great Britain and Kenya.
- Certified copies of any and all school applications, school registrations, grant or student loan applications or funding received for Occidental College, Columbia University, Columbia College, Harvard University
- Certified copies of any U.S. Port of Entry Records
- Certified copies of immigration and naturalization records

The documents listed above are NOT available for public examination -- they are being hidden by SoetorObama for a reason. The reason? They would reveal his "hidden" past. He uses the legal system to hide documents and you say "Show us the passport."

THINK and then ask yourself what could be in that "hidden" past. Do you know enough about him to answer that question? But it doesn't matter. Ignore everything (including The US Constitutiom) because he is Mr. Hopey-Changey.

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