Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

info on ashura

http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-01-06-voa21.cfm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_of_Ashura

Hey Craig
Why didn't Kerry get SOS?
Why didn't Brazile get the DNC chair?
Why isn't Dr. Dean getting Surgeon General?

No one's addressed these questions. Maybe you could.

today's reuters on ashura
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L7273743.htm

funny you should mention the polka.......every time i play somewhere we have "Polka Time, by golly".....started doing it a long time ago........the polka is happy music.....impossible to sing a sad polka........lol

hey you're right, sturg, nobody can stay in a bad mood listening to polka

"polka is happy music.....impossible to sing a sad polka"
sturge, so too is the waltz. heard that it's because they synchronize somehow with the heartbeat... or something like that.

craig, that was a mighty nice gesture by imus when he said he'll do everything he can to promote the book. he has a pretty good batting average when it comes to selling books.... now all you and helen have to do is get on oprah and jon stewart shows for a sure-fire best seller.

I have a theory that most songs are written while walking and hence have a "walk-beat"

steve martin used to do a riff in his show about how the banjo music was "Happy" music and it was impossible to be sad listening to banjo.....then would try to play some "sad" banjo.......but it applies to polka also..........

just for you sturge. banjo polka

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CO4sVDFma3Y

our full-of-baloney campaign made the Final Four (last round of voting open until midnight Friday):

http://olberblogging.com/2009/01/06/countdown-pundit-political-posturing/

It is, however, possible to be driven to distraction by banjo music..........lol

3 of 'em.......all in a row......more banjos than you'd ever need.........martin, bela fleck and tony trischka

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jn3KCZEqxc&feature=PlayList&p=8ED0AFAF0B52A035&playnext=1&index=2

and now.........back to politics................

"hey you're right, sturg, nobody can stay in a bad mood listening to polka"

Craig, sturge and all -- you are so right. My friend Steve Popovich (whose record company, Cleveland International, launched Meatloaf's Bat Out of Hell) calls polka, "The People's Prozac."

Good morning all,

Craig, we could use a little competence after the last 8 years. Of course the bar is really low it wouldn't take much abilility to beat the current bunch.

Jack

"It is, however, possible to be driven to distraction by banjo music..........lol"

Old musician's joke:

What does a banjo solo have in common with a premature ejaculation? You know they're coming and there's not a damned thing you can do about it.

(disclaimer -- I love banjo solos)

Early results show McCraigster with a HUGE LEAD in the OBlogger poll.....

Craig the only reason I went to the site was to cast a vote for you........ As I know you are the best choice.

It was a difficult situation for me to even allow my computer to access a KO site, and KO if you are reading this - which I doubt your arrogant self would avail – Please stick with the one thing you do not do well, stay away from football , As an Entertainer your best at what you do playing to a small crowd in your primary venue. Having a hack on Football coverage – I do not see the value! Other then making it the WORST.

Since voting and access a KO site I have defragged, Virus checked and had my computer sterilized from the inside out.

Vote for Craig…..

Sanjay Gupta was a good choice for SG. Why does Tucker think it's a pointless position? Look, Dr. Koop was the anti-smoking spokesmodel. And don't forget the nice lady who spoke of the thing of which most Americans are uncomfortable and who then had to resign her post. ~What was her name?~

Yeah, we don't need the gov't to play mommy, but given the shrinking world, lots of things effect us. The Obama admin will have someone collecting and disseminating info to them and, in turn, to the public.

Considering the state of the healthcare system & the number of chronic-but-preventable illnesses, I don't think SG is superfluous or even mommy-ish. It makes sense.

Sturge

Gotta agree about the banjo and the polka

I have to put Mexican music in there also. Even their sad songs are more winsome than gut wrenching depressing like the blues can be.

Jack

ping - Ha. I was going to say the exact opposite about KO. Having him back at the sport desk is the thing that works for me. Not quite like he was on Sport Center (ah, the good, old days), but still...

Blue - hey maybe the sports desk is the place for KO ? I will need to purge his recent past.... Lets see...

Maybe the Polka Purg to bring me to a happy place.

for those of you who do not ant to sully your machines with olber cookies, here are some excerpts from there:

"OlberBlogging Countdown Favorite MNBC News Pundit Poll has elicited an intense battle between two popular pundits and their fans.

The fighting supporters of Craig “CQ Trailmix” Crawford and Chris “The Fix” Cillizza gave our meek OlberBlogging site more than 600 hits in the last two days alone!

Because of the intense interest this poll has raised from the Countdown, cyberspace and newsroom community, OlberBlogging posts the Countdown Pundit Political Poll - Final Answer with the top four contenders: Cillizza, Crawford, Robinson, Silver.

Each candidate also may make a statement regarding his campaign and why Countdown fans should vote for him.

Craig Crawford submitted this statement:...."and
not condone any cookie meddling or other compromises of the integrity of the ballot box"

We will post other candidate statements as they are received (and we do know from whom they are sent).

Candidates and their supporters have until 12 midnight Friday to vote. After that we will announce the name of the OlberBlogging Countdown Favorite News Pundit. The winner will receive some prize thatwe have yet to imagine, but we’ll come up with something.

So, make sure you vote. Vote early. Vote Often

Enjoy! Vote Early, Vote Often."

good morning gang....

everyone go back to olberblogging..... scroll down to the end.... and you can vote for Craig again in the Final Vote..... so far he's winning..... I bet it's because us luddites get up early..... all those wiz kids sleep late.... slackers!

"Changing Washington from the inside requires players who actually know how the place works."
Craig.... this is why those of us who supported Hillary..... well.... supported her.... I'm pleased that Obama is snatching up so many of Bill's leftovers...

ping - You do know that he came to us from ESPN, right?

The Bluesman's Epitaph:

"I Didnt Wake Up This Morning"

Ping...
I'm with you on KO and football....
saw him on the panel the other night while watching one of the playoff games.....
couldn't help but think.... man.... he sucks!.....

he used to be good with sports..... but I think all his political rantings and ravings have affected his sports brain.....

Does the Olberblog get advertising bucks from numbers of "hits"???

On the off chance someone hasn't voted...here's the link again:

http://olberblogging.com/

Ring Ring the Banjo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JFVaWQhDY0

This version selected because I loved the band name and location.

It's obvious that Craig's followers are early risers. He's currently at 74%. Cillizza must get the youth vote.

Just to pay some attention to Craig's article thismorning ...

Looking at all the Clinton people picked as the "insiders" on the team, it seems to be that Obama is doing something very smart. He is bringing back all the people who really wanted to "change" things from the last administration but were thwarted by a Republican Congress and the Clinton scandal, and given them a home in a new "change" administration where they might finally make things happen.

Great cartoon....

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-edcart-multimediagallery,0,5944816.gallery

Patsi

lol,
no bozos!
Thats a good one.

Jack

Flatt & Scruggs - Polka on a Banjo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmxtetzBmaM

Lexington
Huntington's clash

Dec 30th 2008
From The Economist print edition
One of America’s great public intellectuals died on Christmas Eve
http://www.economist.com/world/unitedstates/displaystory.cfm?story_id=12852885

A very worthwhile read.

Banjo Blues

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-_5QLOhR7w

Flatus

The problem I have with Huntingtons "Clash of Civilization" is that it is only happening in a small part of the world, you can count the countries affected on your 2 hands. The rest of the world is speeding toward modernity and away from the traditional. China and India are the best examples.

Jack

Deliverance - Dueling Banjos Scene HQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyKvD-4IxOY

patsi, that cartoon should be made to pop up on each and every one of those clowns' home pages. and hung in their offices amongst the obligatory shaking hands with vips pix.

Joycelyn Elders was the physician General who got in trouble for talking about sex. I've never been quite sure what the right wing doesn't like about factual talk about sex. Are they not getting any or is what they are getting making them grouchy?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joycelyn_Elders

ADP shows 693,000 jobs lost in December

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/ADP-shows-693000-jobs-lost/story.aspx?guid=%7B11A2598F%2D2D9D%2D48D2%2DA934%2D144BA5E1BB9C%7D

It looks like the private sector lost jobs in all areas, it is now a very broadbased recession.

Jack

solar?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/07/atheist-bus-advertising-spain

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2009/jan/06/atheist-bus

"He is bringing back all the people who really wanted to "change" things from the last administration but were thwarted by a Republican Congress and the Clinton scandal, and given them a home in a new "change" administration where they might finally make things happen."

Kudos Jamie, You're exactly right!

Chloe

I like that dueling banjos scene,
It reminds me of a neighbor when I was growing up. The whole family played musical instruments, he was mentally retarded but could play the banjo. So he was part of the family band that played around the comminity.

Jack

Chloe----morning---isn't it ?

Patsi---Hey first rate---Im gona steal that joke,,,you have more?

Jack---I started to listen to Mexican music late in life,,,,and you are right ---makes one pretty happy-----on channel 60 here they are showing a novela that goes by the name --Hija Del Mariachi ----lots of songs and very very funny. ( 9: a.m.) I tape the them,,,and take them to my Mom when we visit her----she then tells me some history behind the songs,,,and the artist (my favorite is Javier Solis) this sometimes prompts her to tell me some story about her life on the ranch that my Grandfather had.....and the Mexican Polkas are great also,,,

Morning Solar :)

oops sorry Chlo---did not hit the refresh button before I posted and saw you ----just sending you a wake up call--is all :-))))

Craig's thread is what I have been saying since O pick H. C.-----this was the deal in order to get her and B C on board----the people from his administration was the deal,,,that is how they pulled in Panetta---I think?

"I like that dueling banjos scene,"

me too Jack. When I saw all the Banjo talk this morning, it's the first thing that came to my mind.

kessler's book
http://books.google.com/books?id=k627bn1FtfcC&dq=question+of+intent+david+kessler+surgeon+general&printsec=frontcover&source=bn&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=4&ct=result

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/obamas-competent-change.html#comment-187396

Politics. It's all about the 'deals' made. But how else are they going to get anything done. Not so bad, as long as they're making deals with the right people.

And this administration seems to be coming together very nicely.

Padt----thanks for those linkes,,,bookedmarked them for later,(have a meeting a little later to go to),I read somewhere that here in the U S there are more Atheist than are reported----they feel intimidated,by family and friends ----so they have to come out of the closet just like my buddy Tony did

"-they feel intimidated,by family and friends -"

When I saw those buses this morning, I couldn't quite see that happening here in the states.

ugh, must do some work.

powers' analysis "The Senate’s Making a Big Mistake on Burris" is powerfully incisive
"Just because they don’t like or don’t trust the person or the process by which a legally proper appointment is made is no legally principled reason at all. It’s not even clear that an indicted, impeached or convicted governor’s choice would be grounds enough to make such an action anything other than purely arbitrary as a matter of law, unless the offense for which sanction has been imposed is directly linked to the senate appointment. Show us a smoking gun and we might have a very different kind of issue to decide.

Moreover, the Senate relied on a legal fig leaf for the strongest part of its argument. The Illinois secretary of state is reported to have agreed, at Reid’s request, not to certify Burris’s appointment."
http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docID=news-000003003633

"...it’s part of being politically courageous to resist treating the law as an inconvenient obstacle to be navigated around for the sake of some greater good simply to avoid looking weak or powerless."

also from madison powers' cq article

Competence is certainly a change from the Shrubian era

cbob, thanks for clearing up the blair house mystery for me last night. here's some more on it

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2009/01/blair_house_which_date_bumps_o.html

a former pm out ranks a peotus? wonder what rachel maddow thinks of that. she seemed a bit perturbed the other day about "the next leader of the free world" being stiffed.

Hi, y'all.

Man, what a drive - 2 1/2 hours through driving rain and ABSOLUTE IDIOTS scared to death of wet roads.

OK - I went and voted in the finals. Craig's at 70% - the kids must be waking up. Cillizza's troops will, I'm sure, start into the fray.

Burris to be seated in a couple of days - great work Harry. You have made an even bigger ass of yourself - and here I thought that wasn't possible.

"Reid vows to lead till at least 2015"

Does that mean he's stepping down at quarter-after eight tonight?

Or just some future night at 8:15?

On the off chance someone hasn't voted...here's the link again:

http://olberblogging.com/

patsi, reposting your reminder. those tm'ers who just came on might not be aware that there's a run-off vote to be made and you have to scroll down past a bunch of stuff to get to it.

go go gracious host! beat those cillizza-istas!

Ed, you are an optimist - as a realist I see 6 more years of bungling, ineffective, frankly embarassing leadership of the Senate democrats. That's just wonderful. Note to Harry - avoid microphones and cameras - they don't help you or us.

Here's a wonderfully funny (well in that not so funny way) about a 6 year old kid who drove himself 10 miles to school.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/06/AR2009010601195.html?hpid=topnews

Democrats are disputing reports that there is a deal to seat Burris as earlier reported by the AP.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090107/pl_politico/17163

pat,
The one Craig linked this morning goes to a list with only the four finalists, and he's doing much better.
http://olberblogging.com/2009/01/06/countdown-pundit-political-posturing/

oops, I scrolled down to quickly on your link It's there too.

"And for the next two weeks, President-elect Barack Obama will be living full-time at a hotel right across the street from the White House. This is historic because this is the first time a Democrat has checked into a Washington hotel room under his own name." --Jay Leno

That's cold!

Cold but true Corey. :)

One more joke from Leno:

"Barack Obama spent his first full day in Washington since coming back from his vacation in Hawaii, but no matter where this guy is, he always manages to work out. Like, today, he spent most of the afternoon running from Bill Richardson." --Jay Leno

See? That's the thing, Solar; it's not about religion at all.
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/obamas-cia-choice-a-smart-move.html#comment-187301

Champ, Wish you'd elaborate on what you meant.

If Reid is going to lead until 2015, I have to ask when he plans to start. I bet that there are people in Nevada that are planning a serious run for his seat when it expires in 2010.

Great question Bowman - I haven't seen any evidence that he has started yet.

bowmanc

I would be tempted to send them a donation.
LBJ, he ain't.

Jack

He will be noted for a very extinguished career.

Much better comments over on the final olberblog pundit vote today.

jillabuster January 6, 2009 at 7:43 pm
GOOOO CRAIG CRAWFORD!!!! I need me some Baloney in My Belly

2Labpuppers January 7, 2009 at 7:28 am
Mmmmm fried baloney on rye with mustard! Now that I’m a vegetarian, I have to find out if they sell veggie baloney - Mr. Crawford has made me hungry.

Morning all. Has anyone mentioned the little forced vacation that Chris C. took from MSN a while back? When he was one of the people perpetuating the "I've just become a symbol" Obama quote out of context.

chloe,

Real blog-oney doesn't contain much meat, it is mostly filler.

C-Bob,

All those mini-earthquakes you been talking about might have been caused by a high-flying Richardson crashing to earth.

Champ

--Sorry I missed your post,,,I just took a peek at it cos Chloe posted hers-----I happen to think that the background that Im posting will show a little diff . twist that on the whole------but I think that the troubles over in Gaza is mostly about religion------if you don't think so tell my why-----but I can't read short hand----expound on what you said,,,,come out and play a little.

Chloe...
You made my day with that Dueling Banjos post. I haven't watched that scene in years, and it's still as irresistable as it ever was. Thanks.

Hey Solar! I hope you've been well.

Craig Ferguson said last night that no matter how you feel about Anne Coulter, you have to admit that she is a very attractive woman. He then asked, "Do we have a picture of her?" They promptly showed a picture of Tom Petty. LOL!

Bow -- you're on a roll today!

Hey Rosie!----Where have u been? I have missed you, I have been teasing OSH since you have been gone,,she is a great sport ,,,a little flirty just like you,,,and thats cool, makes for a lot of fun---doing fine --how about you??

Patsi,

Thanks, but I prefer to be on a bun.

Once again New Hampshire is in the grips of a freezing rain turning to ice storm today. So far it hasn't turned into the tree snapping nightmare of a couple weeks ago.

Louder = righter Why don't the liberals have any solopsic, salivating, pit-bull like commentators like Ann C. Rush or Bill O?

hey Rosie....
saw your comment on olberblog.....
that's not mayo on Craig's baloney sammy..... it's cheese and ketchup.....

champ.... let me chime in...... come out, come out, wherever you are and meet the young pundit that fell from a star....

What did Tom Petty ever do wrong to Craig Ferguson?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123134084980060941.html

It just sickens me when the political leadership treats the constitution like it is optional.....circumstances and all that. I don't know squat about Burris but the law is clear......he is to be seated....all this posturing is a clear challenge to our rules of law.

No, no. Chris Cilizza. Do you remember when that Obama quote "I've just become a symbol of America" came out? Taken in context, Obama was saying that he is just a symbol, taken out of context it made it sound like he was saying that he is THE symbol of America. Chris C. wrote a collum useing the taken out of context version and he would not retract it. He was banned from MSN for a while because of it.

vegan balogna = oxymoron

Mathews took a "forced vacation" I believe because of a health issue. Diabetes I think.

RR
Glad that you posted----was a little worried ---after seeing Bowmanc's post about the weather--get that generator hooked up?

RR-how is the weather where you're at? AK is in the middle of a record cold snap. Been below zero for more than a week now. Everything is freezing off. (really!)

Rosie

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/obamas-competent-change.html#comment-187446

Here is a great quote I read a few days ago:

"I condemn representatives who represent no one but themselves." - H. Roe Bartle former mayor of Kansas City

hey Solar & Rosie....

Bowmanc is right..... it's raining ice here in southern NH at the moment..... but so far it isn't sticking to the trees like it did 3 weeks ago.....

the electrician came this morning to take a final look at our panel..... he will put in a permanent transfer switch tomorrow..... we have to buy the generator ourselves..... we are going away on a short ski trip this Friday and will see what's available when we get back.....

Jay Leno said it was so cold in Alaska right now that someone was seen putting chapstick on a pig.

Roland Burris doing a press conference now...talking about his phone call from pal Jimmy Carter. ROFL! You gotta love Burris....what a hoot.

RR,

No generators at Lowe's in Nashua. I was in there yesterday, none to be had. I'll be adding a generator to my household electrical system pretty soon.

I'm watching the press conference now. Burris has obviously been given his marching orders. If he's a good foot soldier he'll be in as long as he provides cover for the leadership's violation of our constitution.....

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/obamas-competent-change.html#comment-187448

Rosie

We have a hard time lying with a straight face?

Jamie, it's not a question of whether or not a person is lying...it's WHY? That's what the promos for that new show "Lie To Me" say.

Lou the mule

I nearly cried, thanks Sturg.

Jax

except , maybe, for the sos of Ill. not certifying Burris, it is all constitutional. Just because Burris is a Senator doesn't mean the Senate has to seat him. The constitution lets the senate makeup its own rules.
I am suprised that more Senators aren't standing up for tradition. Robert Byrd must be in realley bad shape.

Jack

Jamie-?
LOL@cory

pat & bowman, at the risk of being a stone target, if I'm going to eat something veggie based, I'm not going to try and find something to replace baloney - it could never fool my brain. I've had the veggie bacon, veggie turkey, veggie burgers, and withthe exception of a couple of veggie burgers, I found them all to be pretty awful. Baloney at least resembles a meat product - none of the veggie poseurs did.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0109/17162.html

Sorry to hear that Jack Kemp has cancer. It doesn't sound good, but I wish him well.

RR

You might want to look into a generator that is big enough genewrator----I have one that is 5000 rated w----5500 surge -w----and 240/120 V-----it is just a little more than ($700.00) a little one but , it gives me enough power for 4 major things that i wnant running---Refrig, etc,,,,,it is what I use out on the field,,,and I can operate a small welding machine on it------sorry if you already know what you want.

Rosie-----You have that right---what a mess---but that is no excuse for you to be away for so long- :-))

generewrator===generator

Speaking of loudmouth commentators etc...

http://www.freep.com/article/20090106/SPORTS01/90106085/?imw=Y

Whiskey,
From what I understand the SOS of Ill is just certifying the signature of the governor.....That's why even the SOS himself said that his signing is just ceremonial......

Jamie, did you call me a lier?

lier=liar

Rosie, I believe she was saying we don't have any loudmouth commentators like Coulter, because we can't lie with a straight face, unlike people like Coulter.

Oh *blush*, I thought she was commenting on something else. Sorry Jamie.

Jax

Then he needs to certify it and let the games begin, because Burris is the jr senator from Ill.. All theSenate can do is seat him or leave the seat vacant. Why do I get the feeling Burris is having the time of his life.

Jack

Bon JoviTo Sing At NYC, HRC Fundraiser: To help pay off her remaining Debt: I thought Obama Supporters were going to help do this?

jax - I'd like to see the IL SoS defend NOT certifying the signature of Blago on the appointment credentials and causing a rejection of the nominee if his (her?) role is just ceremonial. I smell the proverbial rat - particularly considering news reports that Reid discussed the nomination with him before he refused to certify the documents and the Secretary of the senate rejected the documents because of the lack of that certification.

jack, that's the little box I was referring to yesterday when I said that he made his box littler by claiming Burris was refused the seat because his credentials were not in order

Whiskey,

What bothers me is the apparent ease and willingness to completely forego the letter and intent of the constitution. Even more troubling is the public's "yawn response to all of this". If they can thumb there nose at this part of the constitution then what keeps them from doing the same with the rest.

I think this wouldn't happen if there were some real penalties for conducting government business this way.

Pogo,
I agree and I suspect that the hearings will be well coreographed before they happen.....

jamie, shoot me if you must, but I thought Parker's comment was pretty humorous. But then again, I've gotten in my fair share of trouble over snappy little comments.

Pogo, Whiskey,
For the life of me I can't imagine what the Senate leadership is thinking. In order to not appear complicit in a tainted appointment they instead violate the constitution......where does that make any sense?

jax, I'm in full agreement with you (and with the SCOTUS in the only case they've issued an opinion in that considers the scope of Congress' power to refuse to seat a member of congress who is facially qualified to serve) on the IMHO willful ignorance of the Constitution.

"The Illinois secretary of state is reported to have agreed, at Reid’s request, not to certify Burris’s appointment."
http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docID=news-000003003633

Why not just say....we don't like how this appointment came to pass but it meets the state and constitutional requirements and we are duty bound to honor it.....case closed move on.....

If Reid did that then I think that this is grounds for a senate ethics case. I think it is an abuse of power for federal official to attempt to influence the legal transfer of representation that rests clearly with the states.

Oh, my god - I think I just pissed myself.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/07/us/politics/07holder.html?_r=1

Arlen Specter is opposed to Eric holder because he'd be an Obama yes man? And when he was CHAIR of teh JC while recommending for approval 2 Bush yes men for AG and 2 Bush yes men for SCOTUS, why wasn't this "yes man" disqualifier brought up by him? (That's a rhetorical question for any of you Bush supporters who think it was a serious query).

Jax

That would have been the way to do it last week but now Reid is looking for a facesaving way out. I don't know if Burris is interested in accomodating him. It is almost like someone set this trap for Reid. Wonder who?

Jack

As usual - missing the point.

Jax

from the constitution Article one, section 5

"Section 5. Each House shall be the judge of the elections, returns and qualifications of its own members"

Jack

Whiskey,
I know the article, so the Senate leader calls the SOS of Ill and asks him to not sign ( a technicality) so that he has cover to declare the appointee unqualified......and you dont see anything wrong with that?????

"....is reported to have agreed, at Reid’s request..."

jax, this just might be rumor so let's give reid the innocent-before-found-guilty benefit of the doubt that seems to be a somewhat oldfashioned sentiment and lacking on the hill.

Patd,
You may be right. Probably jumping the gun a little....
We'll just have to see...

It really doesn't matter what political persuasion you come from. The Constitution protects us all and any attacks on it from any political spectrum even from our own must not be tolerated......

Clumsy was when he said he'd never seat a Blagoyovich ( a sitting governor) appointee...or if he called the SOS to stop the appointee..

But when Burris showed up and was denied a seat. At that point it became a breach of the oath that he swore.
That's more than clumsy.

Jax

The best I can tell, if Reid is following the rules of the Senate then there is no constitutional conflict. Reid is free to express his opinion to the SOS of Ill. and the Senate is constitutionally permitted to make rules for the seating of members and to expel any member for any reason from the body.

So nobody is breaking the constitution that I know of.

It is just one of those sloppy parts of the separation of powers that don't often get exposed.

It is politically stupid on the part of Reid and any of his supporters and Blagojevich has proved that he would make a better majority leader of the senate than Reid. He may be a corrupt politician but he has proven with this appointment that he can play with the best of them.

Jack

Let's be clear - this isn't about Burris. It is about Reid, the SEcretary of the SEnate, and Blago.

This is the power in question.

"Amendment 17

"(Ratified April 8, 1913)

"The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, elected by the people thereof for six years; and each Senator shall have one vote. The electors in each State shall have the qualifications requisite for electors of the most numerous branch of the State legislatures.

"When vacancies happen in the representation of any State in the Senate, the executive authority of such State shall issue writs of election to fill such vacancies: Provided, That the legislature of any State may empower the executive thereof to make temporary appointments until the people fill the vacancies by election as the legislature may direct.

"This amendment shall not be so construed as to affect the election or term of any Senator chosen before it becomes valid as part of the Constitution. "

Reid is refusing to acknowledge the power of the governor of IL, granted him by the legislature of IL, pursuant to this amendment, to temporarily fill a vacancy. It further defines the qualifications that the Senate judges - along with residency and age requirements of Art. 1, Sect. 3. This is an Amendment to the Constitution affecting Art. 1, Sect. 3 & 5, which was subsequently passed and more specific than the general power granted by Art. 1. Sect. 5 to the Senate - And it is not power granted to the Majority Leader of the Senate. Any such power for the majority leader - or the Secretary of the Senate, for that matter - is pursuant to Senate Rules, which cannot diminish the requirements of the Constitution.

Notwithstanding the possibility that he may have improperly influenced the IL SoS to ignore his ministerial duty to certify the documents documenting Blago's appointment - pursuant to Art. 1, Sect. 3 and the 17th Amendment - of Burris, he has pretty clearly overstepped any constitutional authority granted him re: executive appointments to fill temporary vacancies in the Senate.

There's a difference between having a cow and pointing out cowsh*t. This is the latter.

ill atty gen
"....response to Burris' request that the Illinois Supreme Court force White to sign Burris' Senate paperwork.
Madigan, representing White in her role as the state's chief legal officer, argued that the court should not order White to sign the appointment papers because Burris has "not identified any law requiring" that White must do so "because there is none." Further, Madigan asserts U.S. Senate rules do not require White's signature in order for Burris to be seated.

"The secretary has performed all of his legal duties regarding the Burris appointment. This court cannot compel the U.S. Senate to seat petitioner Burris. But nothing remains to be done by the secretary to complete the appointment process and to enable the U.S. senate to seat Burris," the filing stated."

http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/clout_st/2009/01/burris-appointm.html

"There's a difference between having a cow and pointing out cowsh*t."

and stepping in said *it

Jack,
If expressing his opinion means requesting that a state public official doesn't perform his duties then it's a real problem.

It's no different than influencing a law enforcement officer to not uphold the law at the request of a select individual.

pat - LOL. See, I thought Reid drew a line in the sand - I see where I was wrong.

Hah. this could come down to a clash between Senate rules and IL state law, If Madigan is correct about U.S. Senate Rules, there is no basis for requiring a state's SoS certification of the credentials documents and Reid was just making it all up, got the Secretary of the Senate to go along with the scam, and is now being left out to dry. His little box keeps shrinking with every new disclosure. He should be drummed out of his leadership position. I suspect the Senate Ethics Committee will take a pass on this investigation.

Obama refuses to take stand on seating Burris

Wednesday, January 7, 2009
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/01/07/national/w080458S67.DTL

I'm so confused...does PEBO want Burris seated or not?

Pogo,
What a mess.....we don't have enough real problems to deal with....they have to manufacture a few just to make it interesting....

The only thing left is to have a few fist fights on the Senate floor and we will officially be Mexico......

Jax

Anyone is free to ask a police officer not to write a ticket, they just can't offer him a bribe. The police officer is free to ignore the suggestion also. As was the Ill. sos.

Jack

obama to sen dems reverse course
http://www.chicagocontent.com/?p=2152

Jack,
Excuse me officer, I'm going to commit a crime. Do you mind looking the other way......Thanks.....Laughs

KC, but then again . . .

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/07/dem-aide-obama-wanted-sen_n_155909.html

jax, you are exactly right. I hope Reid loses his post as a result.

"I'm so confused...does PEBO want Burris seated or not?"

KGC

That makes me remember this song by The Clash

"Should I stay or should I go"

"If I stay it will be trouble , if I go it will be double"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1Gn0e7kvTA

Jack

Head's up gang. With all the stories everyone tells here, this should be an easy request to fill. Last year my buddy Shelly over at This Eclectic Life http://thiseclecticlife.com/ had everyone crocheting afghans for a ranch in Texas for children with cancer.

This year she is doing Medicine Bags each with three good luck charms. You don't have to make anything. Just dig through your drawers and come up with items that have a story and send them with the story to Shelly.

You can read the details today on her website today. It can be your good deed for January.

Pogo

It seems PEBO has taken every position possible..of course a lot of this is based on Mr. (or Ms) Anonymous so who really knows!

" this could come down to a clash between Senate rules and IL state law,"

If that is the case then the senate wins as article 5 makes them the ultimate authority in deciding who is a senator and who is not. I also believe they are the only ones who can determine if senate rules are broken.

Jack

How is a new Pres supposed to focus on anything when all around him his own house is like a zoo gone mad.

Who or what is he supposed to trust in.....

As I said before, this Burris situation is all Blago's fault. Blago is the guy who needs to be punished, but Burris is the one getting punished. Pogo, that was me who mentioned the Rob Parker story. It's just another story of someone who made a comment (reportedly to make light of something) and took a lot of heat because people didn't see it that way. If he had not said anything at all, he wouldn't have had to apologize a day later and he probably wouldn't have resigned last week. The rumor was that he was gonna receive a demotion. He said today on ESPN that this was the basically the last straw along with all of the upcoming changes to the newspaper. It was time for him to move on.

Jax

It is no longer his house, he is not in the senate anymore. If he is foolish enough to interfere I'm sure there are 99 senators who will tell him.

Jack

Also, Obama has spent 30 years around Chicago politics, he is used to food fights

Jack

Jack,
By his house, I meant his supposed allies in the Congress. I'm sure that he feels like he has the Keystone cops to deal with to get alot of things done.

They are looking as much like a liability as they are an aid.

We have a candidate for "Worst Person in the World".

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Stick-swiping-jerk-almost-finds-way-to-ruin-Wint;_ylt=AmqiLhzmw7wgRxWUI4z5Wrc5nYcB?urn=nhl,132819

jack, that's an argument - it's the one Reid made on MTP Sunday - and IMO it is wrong. I,5 doesn't give the senate the power to impose upon state officials any duties (and the Constitution is a document limiting the powers of the 3 branches of government, not enlarging them, so any power claimed by the branches has to be enumerated in it), and there is no authority to support the idea that the Senate can make law binding upon state officials through it's internal rules. Requiring a SoS to certify documents that aren't required as a qualification for serving as a senator is way outside of the powers granted by the constitution. But then again, I don't get to make these determinations.

Obama has lunch with 4 presidents
" President-elect Barack Obama hailed a rare Oval Office gathering of all U.S. presidents as an extraordinary event on Wednesday as the current occupant, President George W. Bush, reminded his predecessors and successor that the office "transcends the individual."
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=254753

Hilarious -- Reid is upset that some are saying Burris out-foxed him....

http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0109/Reid_.html

Solar....
we've seen 6500 watt ones for $800 on the market..... we are getting a switch powerful enough to run 10 circuits..... 2 of them will be for our water pump...... we've decided to nix a propane one..... turns out Rick's idea was if he died I wouldn't have to worry about anything..... I told him if he dies, I'll immediately put this house on the market and find myself a nice little condo....

"Arlen Specter is opposed to Eric holder because he'd be an Obama yes man? And when he was CHAIR of teh JC while recommending for approval 2 Bush yes men for AG and 2 Bush yes men for SCOTUS, why wasn't this "yes man" disqualifier brought up by him? (That's a rhetorical question for any of you Bush supporters who think it was a serious query)."

Pogo..... that was discussed on NPR this morning..... it was said that Specter has to make a show of not just rolling over and giving Obama his way as he is up for re-election in 2010.... he must act like a Republican or risk losing in the PA repub primary....

The senate is now being sued:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090107/ap_on_go_co/burris_legal

Corey, sorry to have missed that it was your comment. Same response - been there, done that, have the t-shirt.

I obviously don't agree that it's Blago's fault, although had he not made the appointment, there wouldn't have been any controversy, just an empty seat in the Senate. Blago's got the authority to nominate a temp for Obama's seat - and nothing has been done to remove that authority.

I've got to hit the road - everyone have a good evening.

I agree with Bush on the "office transcends the Indiviudal" I think it disrespects the Office of the President when people refer to the President with derogatory little names and terms.....it says alot about their own personal character....

Burris expects to join Senate 'very shortly'
By ANN SANNER, Associated Press Writer Ann Sanner -– 16 mins ago

"Roland Burriiated Press s said Wednesday he should be able to join the Senate "very shortly," after talking to newly supportive Democratic leaders and working on lingering legal obstacles. Talking to reporters on the second day of a Washington power odyssey that would intimidate many, the 71-year-old Burris declared himself happy and said he was pleased with his meeting with Sens. Harry Reid and Dick Durbin."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090107/ap_on_go_co/senate_burris;_ylt=ApxH2EbHN27pm3FzVj9v.yqyFz4D

I imagine Burris outside the senate, standing behind a red velvet rope. Saying, 'I'm the new senator from the state of Illinois!" Meanwhile a giant bouncer says "I'm sorry, you're not getting in!"

Pogo
This is not the senate telling a state what to do, they can't
It is the Senates right to determine the qualifications of its members, article 5, the 17 amendment only addressed the way states are to select senators.
The senate has done what Reid is threatening to do several times almost always for corruption. It doesn't happen often and is a move that should be taken lightly as I believe has happened in this case.

Jack

damn. not done yet.

RR, if being a hypoctical asshole (sorry Craig - he's a public figure, so he's fair game) is acting like a Republican, and acting like a republican is what he has to do to get re-elected, he'll be re-elected in a landslide.

Patsi, Reid will learn to shut the hell up if he's got any shred of sense left. Almost every time he opens his mouth, he is showing what an idiot he is.

jack, that''s not exactly right - it;s the senate's role to JUDGE the qualifications of its members. That woul dlikely mean to make sure they have the qualifications set out in the constitution.

Now I get to leave.

Pogo, Jack

That makes more sense. They are allowed to "judge" if the qualifications are met. Not to dictate the qualifications.

Pogo...
oh.... I agree that Specter is a hypocritical asshole..... the guy on NPR (sorry can't remember his name) said he must act like a member of the opposing party......

remember when some Dems voted with Bush..... people here were screaming "off with their heads!"...... we called the Dems wimps and worst.... we wanted an opposition party.....

the Republicans want that now too....

Pogo

As the senate is the final authority on the subject when it comes to seating a member it is a difference without a difference.

Jack

Jack,
The outgoing Senate rules chairperson Feinstein says that Burris meets the qualifications and should be seated. Not a great vote of confidence for Reid's position.

Renee

If Spector is worried about not being a good Republican maybe he should switch parties. The way they treated him in 2004 I don't know why he is still a Republican.

Jack

Jax

Ain't it the truth and I'll bet there are even more speaking out privately. Senators can't be happy with the way this was handled.

Jack

http://www.gov.state.ak.us/news.php?id=1595

Looks like the resume work begins........

Welcome to Chicago politics ----u aint seen nothing yet!,,,,,Blago is a street fighter in a suit,,,,,he pissed some one off and it is that simple,,,he in turn has shown that he won't lay down by appointing Burris---a very acceptable appointment .,,that is black,(smart),( trap for Reid)and has had his trouble with the chicago machine------we here in Il just sit back and let it all unwind--cos one minute your speculations can look pretty good,,,,and then next piece of news that comes out might make your assumptions and you look pretty dumb,,,,senate, the power he is protecting is his own---he house?? this little side show, makes me like the Obama appointments all the more----they won't take their eyes off of the important issues,on these type of distractions,,they are not the bunglers that are in there now.

This is just so funny to read or should I say Reid?

I Want To Play Poker With Harry Reid

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/01/i_want_to_play_poker_with_harr.html

I couldn't find the link for this..so sorry it's a bit long but too funny to not pass along..

*Here is the Washington Post's Mensa Invitational which once again asked readers to take any word from the dictionary, alter it by adding, subtracting, or changing one letter, and supply a new definition. Here are the winners:*

1. Cashtration (n.): The act of buying a house, which renders the subject
financially impotent for an indefinite period of time.

2. Ignoranus : A person who's both stupid and an asshole.

3. Intaxication : Euphoria at getting a tax refund, which lasts until you realize it was your money to start with.

5. Bozone ( n.): The substance surrounding stupid people that stops bright ideas from penetrating. The bozone layer, unfortunately, shows little sign of breaking down in the near future.

6. Foreploy : Any misrepresentation about yourself for the purpose of getting laid.

7. Giraffiti : Vandalism spray-painted very, very high

8. Sarchasm : The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.

9. Inoculatte : To take coffee intravenously when you are running late.

10. Osteopornosis : A degenerate disease. (This one got extra credit.)

11. Karmageddon : It's like, when everybody is sending off all these really bad vibes, right? And then, like, the Earth explodes and it's like, a serious bummer.

12. Decafalon (n.): The gruelling event of getting through the day consuming only things that are good for you.

13. Glibido : All talk and no action.

14. Dopeler Effect: The tendency of stupid ideas to seem smarter when they come at you rapidly.

15. Arachnoleptic Fit (n.): The frantic dance performed just after you've accidentally walked through a spider web.

16. Beelzebug (n.) : Satan in the form of a mosquito, that gets into your bedroom at three in the morning and cannot be cast out.

17. Caterpallor ( n.): The colour you turn after finding half a worm in the fruit you're eating.

*The Washington Post has also published the winning submissions to its yearly contest, in which readers are asked to supply alternate meanings for common words. And the winners are:*

1. coffee , n. the person upon whom one coughs.

2. flabbergasted , adj. appalled by discovering how much weight one has gained.

3. abdicate , v. to give up all hope of ever having a flat stomach.

4 esplanade , v. to attempt an explanation while drunk.

5. willy-nilly , adj. impotent.

6. negligent , adj. absent-mindedly answering the door when wearing only a nightgown.

7. lymph , v. to walk with a lisp.

8. gargoyle , n. olive-flavoured mouthwash.

9. flatulence , n. emergency vehicle that picks up someone who has been run over by a steamroller.

10. balderdash , n. a rapidly receding hairline..

11. testicle , n. a humorous question on an exam.

12. rectitude , n. the formal, dignified bearing adopted by proctologists.

13. pokemon , n.. a Rastafarian proctologist.

14. oyster , n. a person who sprinkles his conversation with Yiddishisms.

15. Frisbeetarianism , n. the belief that, after death, the soul flies up onto the roof and gets stuck there.

16. circumvent , n. an opening in the front of boxer shorts worn by Jewish men

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/obamas-competent-change.html#comment-187550

Jaxtrader,

Given all the destruction George has brought to the country, I suppose he had to come up with a reason not to call him names.

Bowmanc

lol

Wouldn't we all like to have Harry at our table. Give me a night with him and dubya and I could take the rest of the winter off.

Jack

OMG! Bow! Thanks for that Jane Hamsher article -- she is hilarious!!!!!

"Blago laughs out loud. This is amateur night in Dixieland. He leaks to the press that he spoke with Reid before the election, and that Reid didn't think any of the African American candidates vying for the seat were "electable," while Tammy Duckworth was. He stirs up the potential jury pool and makes Reid look like an idiot -- the day before Reid is set to appear on Meet the Press."

After this fiasco ain't nobody gonna be scared of Harry and that is bad for a majority leader. Because most days the only real power he has is fear.

Jack

Jack...
I see your point about Specter....

although one could easily say the same thing about Hillary and the Democratic party..... she stayed because she believes in the Democratic party's principles.....

I suspect the same for Specter..... although I can hear you now saying "what the hell are Republican principles"..... LOL!

bow, thanks for that post.... sure wish pogo was still online to see it. bet he would have had some choice and colorful words to add.

Did Harry Reid really say he was proud of Burris for having college degrees? I heard the very end of a conversation about this...

Bow, That article said it all....

"A seventy-one year old dude who hasn't held office for 14 years, appointed by a crook, takes the Senate Majority Leader to the cleaners."

"Dopeler Effect: The tendency of stupid ideas to seem smarter when they come at you rapidly."

ROFL, KGC!

you know why I love politics....

it's frequently stupid...... but it's rarely boring......

Reid.... Specter... Burris.... Blago... Joe the Plumber.... ROTFLMAO!!!

"you know why I love politics....it's frequently stupid...... but it's rarely boring......Reid.... Specter... Burris.... Blago... Joe the Plumber.... ROTFLMAO!!!"

Worth repeating, Renee!!!!!

Then what was Reid's "education" comment being discussed on Hardball?

Obama better take the wheel pretty soon, because the Senate leadership is careening around like a bunch of drunks fighting over the steering wheel of old jalopy

From Wikipedia: Jalopy is a common slang term in American English, noted in 1924[citation needed] but now slightly passé, for an old, decrepit and unreliable automobile which has limited mechanical abilities, and at times can barely move. A jalopy is not a well kept antique car, but a car which is mostly rundown or beaten up.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/obamas-competent-change.html#comment-187568

The comment on that Coulter column must have made MSNBC cringe if they saw it.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/obamas-competent-change.html#comment-187585

Patsi, Reid was talking about what he and Burris had discussed and mentioned that Burris spoke of his degrees earned, how proud he was of his family etc.

Reid sounded more than a little conscending, but that could have just been perception of remarks made by a man very uncomfortable in the corner he had been boxed in.

Jamie

He meantioned his degrees? I wonder why?

Unless the conversation went something like this

Reid , sternly lecturing" but, you have to understand"

Burris: "I don't have to understand a God damn thing, I got my second college degree when your mother was changing your dirty diapers and wiping the shit off your white ass. Don't be lecturing me on politics. There is not a damned thing you can do except shut up and point me to my office."

Jack

Then again maybe it was just a quiet conversation about grandchildren and mutual friends.

Jack

What would we do without the congresscritters to provide entertainment.

talk about the economy?

Jack

ROFL@Jack!

(And thanks for explaining, Jamie -- I couldn't take another hour of Hardball....)

Porn industry seeks stimulus package.....uh,

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/01/07/porn-industry-seeks-federal-bailout/

Dwight Yoakam　--　Guitars, Cadillacs & Hillbilly Music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVr1gTkP9YM&feature=related

Lots of hillbilly music on Youtube!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSW6b390L2Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af9bbRTFPUY&feature=PlayList&p=6AB749B4A4C8D839&index=6

Luke the Drifter, wit dem honky tonk blueses........

Barstool Mountain............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3SQj-vg6DE

I thought you were in charge of polka music, Sturge? LOL!

well.....I'll have to change hats for that........

The latest on Richardson:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090107/ap_on_re_us/richardson_probe

Richardson will probably grow his beard back .......couple of years and he'll look just like this guy:

http://www.alamhof.org/images/Golden,%20Willian%20Lee.jpg

Burris: I'm A Natural Born Citizen

"... Burris furnished the impeachment committee an affidavit. In that affidavit, Burris states that he is at least 30 years of age and "a natural born citizen of the United States." Article I of the U.S. Constitution requires a senator to be at least 30 years of age and "a citizen" of the United States for at least nine years. The "natural born citizen" requirement is only found in Article II of the U.S. Constitution establishing the qualifications for president of the United States. One can't help but wonder if Burris' "natural born citizen" status mentioned in his affidavit is a pointed barb at President-elect Obama, whose status has been called into question in more than a dozen lawsuits ..."

http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2009/01/burris-im-natural-born-citizen.html

For the month of January, Ben & Jerry's has added a
Barack Obama inspired ice cream flavor "Yes Pecan"--described as containing amber waves of buttery ice cream with roasted non-partisan pecans--available
at their Scoop Shops.

Proceeds of the Yes Pecan sales to be donated to the Common Cause Education Fund.

http://www.shoppingblog.com/cgi-bin/sblog.pl?sblog=1060916

Beverly Hillbillies Theme
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJWindioP9c

What if?

"What if an imposter from another country ran for the presidency and won?

What if the media blocked any news of his birthplace and citizenship?

What if the media censorship even blocked paid advertising that tried to expose it?

What if no one had the courage to challenge or verify it?

What if he was inaugurated illegally?

What if the military had to answer to a commander in chief who was illegitimate?

What if every law he signed was invalid?

What if every appointment he made was improper?"

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=85418

Just saw Chris Cilizza on Hardball and must admit he's doing better than he did a few years ago, when his hair plugs had not yet filled in and his dental work still caused all his s-sounds to send sparks. But I still do not consider him to be my favorite.

Sorry, Jamie. I did not see where I "poked" him. Can you show me?

Brooks & Dunn - Hillbilly Deluxe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiOvK4xwr2U

Craig may win that Countdown poll:

Chris Cillizza ("The Fix") 7%
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Craig Crawford ("CQ Trailmix") 76%
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Eugene Robinson (Washington Post) 13%
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Nate Silver (fiverthirtyeight.com) 4%
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Rosiecat left a really nice comment there today (praising Craig)

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/obamas-competent-change.html#comment-187566

My favorite Katherine was #2:

Ignoranus : A person who's both stupid and an asshole

Chloe

Rosie did---how about the guy after her---Paul ? a few down from her.

I didn't see any after her Solar. I'll go back and look.
I knew you'd like to see that one from Rosie. Haven't seen her around in a while. Miss hearing from her.

I saw it a while back---mid day---before I talked to her here.

Solar, Rosie's comment was 7 of 7. I don't see a Paul. Was Rosie here today?

Chloe

Rosie was here about mid day --a little after you left-----after you left that like---I whent and voted for Craig----and there was Rosie------I left the one a few under her.,,it might have been # 9 or so---I think that they might have erased it?

like=site

Good. Glad she's back. I'll go back and check it out. I thought I caught up on all the posts, but always manage to miss a few.

Rosie started posting at 12:39 today

I missed a lot of posts Solar. I'm glad I went back and caught them. I liked Bow's pun on the bologna comments (as well as Pogo's) .

Even Lard was here. And Rosie sounds good. I left too soon! Thanks.

Yeah,,,There was a little bit of fun today---I post that morning call out to you---cos I thought that you might have been a little mad,,,,and wasn't going to post today.,,,I couldn't pick a favorite one from KGC's post ---too many very good ones.

We almost had Champ out of the dark today ?

I wasn't mad. And when I am it doesn't last long.
But I still appreciated the call out. Always helps when you're feeling a little insecure.

Solar, I didn't think you had seen Champs post. And I really am very interested in what he meant. Hope he takes the time to talk to us at some point in the future.

And can you imagine how cold Rosie is in Alaska now. I guess she might consider Chicago warm at this point. It's all relative, including the weather.

Solar, Speaking of elaborating. Don't forget about the ubiquitous intelligence comment you made. I'm hoping to hear more.

Hi Max! We've missed your posts.

Chloe

That is exactly the same way that I am,,,,my anger doesn't last more that 5 min most times,,,,except when some one I like get hurt------and no I did not see Champs post to me---thanks----we once talked about some thing similar a few months back,,I want him to know that these post are more for information that hardly anyone would take the time to look up---but if they did,,,they might see things a little diff----not change sides or thinking ,,,,but not make harmful comments,,,there is a lot of info that I have---thinking about not posting anymore---or all of it---how the Palestine, and Jerusalem got here is very interesting ---int he sense of history,,,,,but maybe just to me??

Keep sharing Solar. It's all good.

Chole----sure thing, but will see when the next showing for it will be,,,,there is another one that you will love---about computers, how they will be everywhere,,,,you will be able to watch a movie on your sunglasses.

"bringing in all the Clinton people doesn't smack of a sea change"

Max, Don't know if you saw Jamie's post this morning, but I really liked her take on it.

"Looking at all the Clinton people picked as the "insiders" on the team, it seems to be that Obama is doing something very smart. He is bringing back all the people who really wanted to "change" things from the last administration but were thwarted by a Republican Congress and the Clinton scandal, and given them a home in a new "change" administration where they might finally make things happen."

"you will be able to watch a movie on your sunglasses. "

I think they already have something like that. But I'm not sure how they work. Personal cinema glasses that connect to a video ipod.

I have missed this post of Champ's - all I have seen from him is the word mellifluous. When was this new one posted.

That Ben and Jerry's ice cream sounds great, and the other names are good, too. I guess I won't be able to get any tho cuz we don't have one of their stores here!
Unfair trade!

The best Obama ice cream name was Peanut Butter Barackle.

It's interesting that manbc tried to edit Cilliza and he didn't take it. Good for him - he sure got spots on pbs and cnn so maybe that's why they had to bring him back on.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/obamas-cia-choice-a-smart-move.html#comment-187301

Bethy, this is it from last night, but not much longer than the last one. All he said was:

"See? That's the thing, Solar; it's not about religion at all."

Clinton Supporter Thrown Out of Rules Committee Meeting

How could we forget?

not that I didn't agree with her....

I don't think that Champ like Western religions,,,he is into some kind of weird stuff--like I am---Vedanta Hinduism,,,and such---and that is not exactly what it is---so if he doesn't want me talking for him ---he can clear it up---I can tell you but ---he should

like=like-----he thinks that religion is good---man bad----they messed it up---he is partially right.

"very sick economy". Maybe Gupta can help."

Ha, I like Gupta a lot Max, but I doubt even he will be much help in that department.

And I agree with you on the Palin, Caroline (you know) comment. Some get away with it, others get away with nothing. No ones ever claimed any of it is fair.

I've missed hearing your take on things around here. Thanks.

Champ----you about had enough of me talking for you----pretty soon you won't have much of a vocabulary left-----I kind of like the four letter ones...but that's just me..haha

Well Chloe I will read Jamie's post. Work more than anything keeps me away. The change however that the Clinton referendum sought was quite different than what Obama preached. And he said we didn't need to return to the Clinton era which he rated DURING the primaries as par with Nixon. But that was Obama the politician. I'm not going to hold that against him. He did what he thought he needed to to beat Hillary. He has dragged into the WH so many issues and it could be possible he might be called as a witness to the Blago mess, Fizgerald hasn't stopped yet. Still, I don't care so much now considering what is at stake in the world. Sure, Obama had no team to run things, so he used the last team...LOL

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/obamas-competent-change.html#comment-187655

Solar, I really like the way Champ thinks. His understanding and insights often blew me away. I always knew where he was coming from and rarely disagreed with what he said.

"And he said we didn't need to return to the Clinton era "

Yeah, but Max. We knew that he said that because he was running against a Clinton. It infuriated me at the time and I haven't forgotten any of it, never will. But it's water under the bridge for the time being. We just have to move on and hope for the best.

Hey Max, judging by what little we've seen so far - you think he'll do ok?

Chloe

I don't know what just happened,,,Craigs site just shut me off,,,had a hard time getting back in---seems ok now---you still there?

Yeah Solar. But only for a couple more minutes.

When that happens, sometimes you have to shut everything down and reboot. I think it's typekey that causes the problems.

yes that is what I did ---just came back to say good night---sleep well.

nite Solar.

KGC; 5:12 pm.............. What's up with those Mensas - there's no number 4. Very funny though, I love these silly things.....................................................................

Rita

Unbelievably stupid:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/01/07/john.doe.letters/index.html

You're right, Patsi. Some time you really cannot imagine how such a mistake can happen.

Sea - I just got your new email. I'm set to order some chocolate covered cherries, but am not sure when people will be home to get them. The ones before Christmas were kinda shanghaied and not shared too well! Will do it soon.

The inauguration had better get here fast - that depression Sturge mentioned is turning into despair.
I'm watching a riot in Oakland because of a remarkably incomprehensible shooting of a kid in the BART station by a cop.

W's Damage:

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/01/08/damage/print.html