Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

isn't this the day that handsome greek boys dive into the sparking waters? ah yes, epiphany.

or is today also an epiphany,"the sudden realization or comprehension of the essence or meaning of something" (as wiki puts it)?

Wooo Hooo for Patd.... you are on a streak

olberblogging check:
chilizza 45%
crawford 16%
robinson 10%

chris must have more groupie geeks than craig

by "geeks" i mean techies who know how to get around that olber cookie so they can vote more than once.

Good and timely post today Mr. Crawford.

As one starts the New Year - these are all good points that can be used by most anyone....
For me they are like a self improvement guide.

I will suggest that all Presidents and in fact all Political representatives should read Servant Leadership.

Patd, In Orlando they dive into the murky waters of downtown Lake Eola. The real Florida dive is in Tarpon Springs…..

Epiphany – One of my favorite words!!
Along with symbiotic

Maybe the new government will have a Symbiotic Epiphany…

ping, some of my favorite words along with serendipitous.

flatus, your input on this?

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/spytalk/

especially this quote:
But if the "intelligence professionals" take a deep breath, they may find that Obama's choice is the best thing that could happen to the CIA, at least in one regard: the former White House budget director, chief of staff, congressman, onetime Republican (a Nixon appointee) and longtime Washington power broker is hardly likely to play second fiddle to a mere general or admiral occupying the DNI's chair.

Ahhh.
So if Barack brings a real CHANGE then could it be a:

Serendipitous Symbiotic Epiphany

"...is hardly likely to play second fiddle to a mere general or admiral occupying the DNI's chair."

patd, to what end? If he doesn't have seasoned experience in the Agency or one of its compatriot agencies, then he is just a pretty face.

The new DNI's intel experience is a tour with the Agency as a liaison officer years ago. He would not have been read into most of the ongoing Agency programs. He's the one who is supposed to be the manager and arbiter of truth. He can fulfill that responsibility only if he has confidence that his subordinate directors are in fact professionals in their craft and are providing judgmentally sound advice.

I totally agree with Feinstein.

"Those people there at OlberBlogging called the C-Listers "un-sophisticated"."

corey, you and solar need to defend tm's honor. we are as sophist as any of them any day!

btw, is "the fix" apropos or not here? and sorry i misspelled your name chris.

"he is just a pretty face"

LOL

That, of course, was said tongue-in-cheek.

Off for my Remicade.

"Epiphany – One of my favorite words!!"

But you have to admit that what we more often experience is a Stupiphany....

In modern usage, sophism, sophist, and sophistry are derogatory terms, due the influence of many philosophers in the past (sophism and platonism were enemy schools).

A sophism is taken as a specious argument used for deceiving someone. It might be crafted to seem logical while actually being wrong, or it might use difficult words and complicated sentences to intimidate the audience into agreeing, or it might appeal to the audience's prejudices and emotions rather than logic, i.e. raising doubts towards the one asserting, rather than his assertion. The goal of a sophism is often to make the audience believe the writer or speaker to be smarter than he or she actually is, e.g., accusing another of sophistry for using persuasion techniques. An argument Ad Hominem is an example of Sophistry.

A sophist is a user of sophisms, i.e., an insincere person trying to confuse or deceive people. A sophist tries to persuade the audience while paying little attention to whether his argument is logical and factual.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophists

see, we are as sophist as any of them any day.

For any splendid Serendipitous Symbiotic Epiphany to occur, you must clean and revive. This has happened in the Executive Branch. This has happened to the out of date GOP in 06.

Now onto the Old School antiques that must go…. Lead the way with Barney Fife Frank – followed quickly by Harry and Nancy – and close the door on Chris Dodds…..

They all need to MOVE ON……. For the good of our Country…

And I think that BHO would agree…

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/listenerinchief.html#comment-187049

TM is more then just a simple blog... yet it is the "un-sophisticated" metric and analyst –
TM and Crawfordlisters are a connected community – which is much more and beyond the simplistic.
It is the real thing …. So have a coke!!

Off to my Capitalistic world

Ping this -- Image a world without http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/listenerinchief.html#comment-187056

Mornin',

When I went to the Olberblogging site, I found that it is was very poor site, and I'm not even sure my vote was counted since the gold standard "Vote Now" or "Submit" button did not exist uner the list of candidates for whom to vote. They were actually accusing us TMixers of figuring out how to end-run the one vote cookies - I assured them that when it comes to computers, we aren't that sophisticated. (Hell some of us can't cut and paste links fuhchrissake, and they think we can disable cookies?)

Frankly, while I think years in the intel business would help you understand the intel business, it certainly doesn't assure that the intel given to the Pres is worth the paper it's written on, now does it? Just ask George SlamDunk Tenet, winner of the Presidential Medal of Freedom, or whatever the hell that stupid thing is. Give me intelligence, curiosity and willingness to nail people to the wall over the info they claim to have any day. Another example - the person who decides what the country will do as a result of the info from EVERY cabinet or equivalent level position is the president - who is certainly not experienced in all, and perhaps not in any of the areas of expertise the cabinet positions represent.

Ping -- You've got no argument with me about Chris Dodd especially -- he is such a banking and credit industry tool that I'm surprised they haven't got his picture on credit cards. And Reid just continues to disappoint.

I think that the CIA could use some decent management above all. Good Lord, how can they have not anticipated needing more Middle East specialists? We need fewer Ollie Norths in the sneaking around biz.

patd,

You can log off, clear the cache, log on and vote again.

I think

"Hell some of us can't cut and paste links fuhchrissake, and they think we can disable cookies?"

yeah, but we can sure bake the heck out of them, pogo.
bet our chefs are better than their chefs.

and thanks for the cookie disabler recipe, animal.

For those that subscribe, today is the "Epiphany" day of gift giving "the 12th day of Christmas"

"Hell some of us can't cut and paste links fuhchrissake, and they think we can disable cookies?"

Tools
Options
Privacy
Show cookies
Select cookie to remove
Click remove cookie (in this case, olberblogging)

I'm not suggesting anyone do this, but it's always nice to remove unwanted cookies from your computer. Everyone puts one there.

I stand corrected - just as I go and defend our honor over there, Animal Control discusses how to get around the vote cookie. Thanks for making a liar out of me, AC.

Solar, that block you quoted from Olberblogger was mine, BTW.

And then chloe lays it out in detail. Terrific. That will teach me to defend our honor.

good morning gang....

"But you have to admit that what we more often experience is a Stupiphany...."
Patsi..... ROFL!

Craig.... I think not liking to be questioned is a common human trait.... not just a presidential one....

I voted for Craig.... and now I'm done with it....
just like when he's on Countdown..... I watch his segment ..... then change the channel....

"That will teach me to defend our honor."

What's dishonorable about knowing how to clear cookies from your machine? You think it's more honorable to be called "unsophisticated" You think they meant that as a compliment. Knowing how to do something and actually doing it are two different things.

Pogo, In my opinion why honor an unhonorable site--Olberman does not post comments contrary to his thinking. I doubt that the vote count is accurate as they censor what Kieth doesn't agree with. Moreover, I responded to patd's question in order to hopefully educate, and had no bearing on your comment.

ha, i did not mean to create such a monster with that oberblogging pundit race -- a cookie monster! now that i'm not winning i withdraw, will not run if nominated, or serve if elected. i feel so dirty now.

chloe, AC, I get your point - I just don't agree. It's no biggee - no internet poll is worth the paper it's written on (and since they aren't even written on paper...) And it wasn't any "them" that said TMixers were unsophisitcated with the computer - it was me. (And certainly there are some of you who are more than capable of rigging votes by disabling cookies - but really, what's the point?) And it wasn't meant to be a slight to us - it was meant to suggest that we weren't trying to rig the frickin' vote. I guess I was wrong.

"i feel so dirty now."

Craig..... sending a fried baloney sandwich and a good german beer your way......

"(And certainly there are some of you who are more than capable of rigging votes by disabling cookies - but really, what's the point?"

nice pogo

CC, you're a man of honor. First in our hearts and all that jazz.

yum, RR

pogo....
doesn't the whole thing remind you of how conspiracy rumors get started.....

ROFLMAO!

yep.....toss your hat into the ring and wind up with a flattened hat.........

good morning all

My father in law kept his pennies in jars, buckets and at one time rolled some of them. When we moved him out of his house we found (I would estimate) over 200 lbs of pennies. one tool box alone contained over 100lbs and was all I could do to pick it up and move it around.

On CBS Sunday morning they did a piece about a group that is building schools for Afghan and Pakistan children, with the idea that education of children especially girls reduces war. It is called "pennies for peace"

http://www.penniesforpeace.org/about_power.html

My father in law is WWII veteran, he operated a flamethrower and did things and saw things that no 20 year old should have to experience. It affects him to this day.

Last night the wife proposed we give the pennies to the organization and maybe see if one of our school teacher friends would like to start a pennies for peace drive in their school. If so we can give them a boost with 200lb of pennies.
It seems like a worthy use of the pennies if they can keep a few children from living the life my father in law has lived.

Jack

Everyone should know how to remove a cookie from their computer if they don't want it there. That certainly isn't the same as voting twice. Did someone here say they voted twice? Do you have to defend TM by saying we're too stupid to delete cookies, instead of saying we're too honorable to cheat?

Others sitting here as moral judges is the point.

Craig, you shouldn't assume anyone did anything wrong here.

I don't know chloe, call me old fashioned or whatever you will for that matter, but if I'm tempted to monkey with a system to cheat it just to get a result I want, I generally just pass. I do appreciate the info on disabling cookies, though - I'm sure there are bunches of them on my machines I need to get rid of.

And yep, pat I'd choose us in a cook off any day.

"I trust Bernie madoff with my money."

ha ha ha

but if I'm tempted to monkey with a system to cheat it just to get a result I want, I generally just pass.

pogo......I think that's commonly referred to as "passing the monkey"

chloe, I'm not laying any moral judgment on you or anyone else - I spoke only for myself about not cheating the system, don't know whether you or anyone else voted more than once, and don't care. And to get the record straight, you didn't tell anyone how to vote more than once - you told us how to delete cookies (specifying the one at issue, but nevermind that) - AC told pat how to vote twice. If you took what I said as a moral judgment - you're reading waaayyy too much into my opinion that voting more than once isn't right. I'm a lawyer fuhchrissake - how much moral authority could I credibly have outside the shark pen anyway?

" For starters, they like to hear themselves talk. "
-------------

We all love the sound of our own violin.

sturg - isn't that a kid's birthday game?

"And to get the record straight, you didn't tell anyone how to vote more than once - you told us how to delete cookies"

As usual pogo, you know just how to shut me up... by demeaning me. Have a good day.

Chris Cilliza is winning? What did you expect from someone whose column is titled "The Fix"

My inquiries into the co-op idea have yielded another example. This one's out of San Fran. Just opened the link, but I think these folks are pretty close to what I've been talking about.

One Block off the Grid -

http://1bog.org/

Chloe...
I don't think Pogo meant to demean you..... he was just asking us not to take him so seriously.....

CBob...
I like the idea of co-ops..... I think we will see more of that type of idea as we baby boomers age..... 20% of us didn't have children (Rick and I included)....
I think we will form co-ops around green energy and retirement communities in the very near future....

I need to get back to work now...

I figure that since we read what they wrote about us at Olberblogging , maybe someone from there read my post here last night. Punks, that's what they are. I nominate them for "Worst Persons in the World". Here...have a laugh, Chloe:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8Vh9_Hi1kY

Craig is going to be on Imus in the Morning Tomorrow.

This Morning was Deirdre Imus discussing her new book "Green You" It wasn't terrible I didn't want to stab myself in the eye with the nearest sharp object:)

http://youhavetobethistalltogoonthisride.blogspot.com/2009/01/deirdre-imus-green-you-3rd-installment.html

In true Perot style, i've decided to reenter the race, but will run a front-porch campaign, keeping expenses down. Altho if elected my Administration will be known for the long overdue comeback of the fried baloney sandwich!

Campaign slogan: "Baloney in Every Belly!"

And now for something really different.

http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2009/01/whats-new-2.html?loc=interstitialskip

Speaking of violins, do you guys think Reid is really stupid enough to have the SaA and the Capitol Police turn Burris away? Reid is being played like a fiddle - He's refusing to seat 2 Dem Senators - that represent two votes possibly critical to getting Obama's agenda moving in Congress - one because McConnell and Boner raised a stink and objected to the pick and he's trying to appear either tough on corruption or above the that sort of thing or whatever - and one because the Republican loser is going to appeal the results of the election. Again, McConnell declarin gthat the race isn't over (it is - but appeals are stil possible). Although technically I guess Franken can't be sworn until the MN gov. certifies that he won the election - which can't be until next Monday. This is the Senate leadership of the Dem party? God help us.

chloe, I was not demeaning you. Pointing out that you gave us cookie deletion instructions is demeaning you? How, exactly? In fact, I thanked you for the cookie instructions. Renee has it exactly right - I don't expect anyone to take me that seriously - hell if I wanted to be taken seriously I wouldn't spend so much time here. The last thing I want to do is shut you up - you're one of the voices here I really enjoy. That don't mean we have to agree on everytihing.

"PUMA" Pundit Unity My Ass! Go Craig!!!

"AC told pat how to vote twice."
pogo, animal told us how to disable cookies as did chloe. both i am sure shared their knowledge with the purest of intentions and concern for our computers.

the uber people themselves, you know the one's that look down on us pedestrian luddites, posted just before the poll list:
"Vote Early, Vote Often (if you can figure out how to defeat the cookie)"
i read that as part of the voting rules and regulations in this particular poll one can honorably vote more than once (in fact is ordered to "vote often") if one meets certain qualifications.

Solar, LOL.

There's an old Little Feat song - Spider's Blues - about giving someone a piece of your mind . . .

"Well long last Sunday down at the May soiree
Hurricane Lucy hit Spider and the bodies flew every which way
Spider told Lucy "Girl I'd like to give ya a piece of my mind"
She said, "Ya better hold on, Ya better hold on
Ya better hold on to it honey
You might need it sometime"

Good advice I'd say.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/listenerinchief.html#comment-187102

Exactly. What better image for a pundit race?

"PUMA" Pundit Unity My Ass! Go Craig!!!

corey, and here's our campaign song... except the second line is spelled c-r-a-i-g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmPRHJd3uHI

Campaign slogan: "Baloney in Every Belly!"

As I remember it, that topic was introduced on a trip to West Virginia.
West Virginia, where fried baloney is called : " cuisine"
No wonder Obama lost West Virginia.

pat, AC told you how to vote twice - shortly, clearly, succinctly and with the express purpose of voting again.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/listenerinchief.html#comment-187061

Baloney sammich? Golden Dome! Remember Craig, you're just a 6 hour drive (1 1/2 hour flight) from the baloney sammiches that got the baloney sammich movement started. Maybe you shoudl schedule a campaign meeting - over lunch of course.

Well, if Craig loses this year, I have no doubt he will do well in '12. It's all a matter of timing. If he loses this time I chalk it up to the fact that we've already had 8 years of baloney. People must be getting tired of it. Maybe they'll be ready for more in '12?

Bob, good memory - the Golden Dome, Cjharleston. If Obama spelled it balogna or pronounced it buh-low-nuh, he was doomed here. (And for what it's worth, ONLY white bread is proper for a baloney sam,mich - fried or not).

Jack ----that is cool thing to do with pennies that are mostly just laying there----us contractor types are not supposed to have big hearts like yours,,,,,,I told a friend of mine that if they would just take a penny from the toll collected from cars,, that they could feed the hungry,,,,now im angry again----toll up to .80 cents here----got in the wrong lane---got a camera ticket,,,,and had to pay that,,,but anyway, like most big guys that I have known ---you have a big heart----thanks-- you make us contractor look good.

contractor===contractors

OK, pat. UNCLE!

pogo, this was a case of hear no evil, see no evil, read no evil..... now if you're going to get picky and rub my face in it, well okay.

however, as posted, they did say and continue to say "vote often" if you're not a computer illiterate.

"Chris Cilliza is winning? What did you expect from someone whose column is titled "The Fix"

ROFL, KGC!!!!!!!

" where fried baloney is called : " cuisine"

It is when I fry it, Bob! ROFL!

rez, the tail end of one of the huff articles reads:

"The Atlantic's Marc Ambinder shot down the speculation:

I'm not sure why Gregoire is going to Washington, but Obama aides say Gregoire is not a candidate for commerce.

This rumor is: FALSE."

Ben and Jerry's has a special flavor for the innauguration

Yes PeCan

Proceeds go to Common Cause

http://www.benjerry.com/features/yespecan/index.cfm?utm_source=chunkMail010609&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=chunkMail010609

gregoire
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2008595119_webgregoire07m.html

The latest on Burris.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009/01/06/washington/AP-Senate-Burris.html

Reid has now made his little box littler.

Solar - his comment was aimed at my comment. I think it was in reference to the white bread/baloney sammich reference, but who could tell - it could have referred to the spelling or the pronunciation. We're left to our imaginations.

Pogo

Thanks,,,getting punchy I guess,, but he has been chasing me around the block as they say,,,,,and I can't afford to admit errors cos he takes them for weakness --and throws them up in you face-at a later post---- later

I'm not sure of his ethnicity, but Cilizza just sounds like a name from a big Italian family. He probably has brothers, sisters, nieces, nephews, et al. padding his count.

As an only child, Craig has to count on his friends to do that for him. At least, I think Craig is an only child, as was my brother. (Apologies to Jack Paar, or whoever said that first.)

AHA! As I suspected.

"Reid has now made his little box littler."

Insanity. Reid is a fool. Stevens and Craig, cool. Burris, booted.

Because some people need practical advice.

http://www.brunching.com/idiotsandwich.html

for Ed:

He brings his father, his mother,
his sister and his brother,
Oh we never see Cilizza alone,
He brings his uncles and cousins,
He's got `em by the dozens,
We never see Cilizza alone....

For people with short attention spans who need practical advice.

http://help.unc.edu/5188

caroline.......tossed her hat into the ring and got a flattened hat........she may have actually thought (no perjorative here) she might be made senator on the level of being who she is......plus the fact that she is probably a very capable woman in many respects and would, by studiously applying herself to the issues, probably turn out to be a very capable senator from nyc.......It turns out that what she's not good at is talking to large groups of antagonistic questioners.......she's not good at the bullshit part of senator......being a politician as opposed to being a senator.......it probably took her a bit by surprise.....

Yes, Patsi, indeed. And Reid apparently didn't listen when his mama told hinm that it's better to be quiet and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt. (Seems some of us may have missed that advice as well). LOL

maybe caroline will figure it out and begin to dance with it

sturg, having had a father and two brothers in the biz - you'd think she might have expected that part of the job (albeit only one of them was in it for any length of time after she was a kid). Plus, a few of them have been on the tube, in the papers, and on the internets being made fools of when not making fools of themselves. you'd think she might have noticed.

are there Lard's Chancellors in Balonian administrations?

pogo......that's what I mean.....I think she was led to believe that she would be a smooth clear winner of the appointment........

OMG - I think Bush has finally lost it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/05/AR2009010501181.html?hpid=moreheadlines

And Cheney is worried about establishing a dangerous precedent? RFLMFAO

people can tell you what it's like out there (ie, somewhere anywhere) but you never really know until you get there yourself......I dont think there's any "education" could really prepare one for that kind of jolt..........

sturg - it's one of those "who you gonna believe, me or your lying eyes" moments. I guess she chose wrong.

I've kind of liked her since the time I won one of her books on the Imus show a few years back.......the collection of patriotic words she edited...........

but come to think of it I've been very aware of her thru the years since camelot.......what a story she's had........"What a long strange trip it's been."
----Jerry

Pogo.. one of many that I love, but I think this is my fave Little Feat song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWwgwADwHh0

Sign of the times :
Another tycoon suicide -

German tycoon Adolf Merckle commits suicide

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE5054JI20090106

AUSTIN – The Texas Department of Transportation announced this morning that it has officially killed the Trans Texas Corridor, saying that despite the project's visionary aspects, "it is clearly not the choice of Texans."

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/010609dnmetttc.43c00ac6.html

"Trans Texas Corridor"

C-Bob -- what has that whole 6-year "plan" cost Texas so far? I know some PO'd folks in TX....and can't wait to hear what their take on this mess is now.

Trash Talk.

http://imustimes.wordpress.com/2009/01/05/anybody-miss-imus/

Patsi -
Some bad idea's take a long time to kill.

America's Untapped Energy Resource: Boosting Efficiency

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1869224,00.html

Wasting Our Energy
We complain about the cost of our energy, but we still throw away most of it. Our power plants, for example, waste enough energy to power Japan. Only 4% of the energy used to run a typical incandescent bulb produces light; the rest is frittered away as heat at the plant, over transmission lines or in the bulb itself, which is why you burn your fingers when you touch it. Our cars, water heaters and industrial motors are still embarrassingly inefficient compared with Japanese and European models.

Headline of the day -

'Jealous wife' charged after fatal genitals fire
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28518932/

Ecopolis
Powering the Future------science channel ---4: p.m. today

Nobel prize-winning energy scientist Dan Kammen explores four pioneering technologies aimed at transforming imaginary future megacity, Ecopolis. This episode, how to provide energy for the city's 18 million citizens, without damaging the environment.

Pogo,

Someone on the site said once that there's only two ways to win an argument with a woman.

And neither one of them work.

In my case, I'm sure he was right. :)

chloe, that's certainly been my experience. :-)

Hey, ty, I can't open youtube here - what song did you link? I know them pretty much by heart.

Bob, youch!!!

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/listenerinchief.html#comment-187153

this is great news for the people of Texas.

Ancient Rock Piles Reveal Early American Cuisine
Jennifer Viegas, Discovery News

http://dsc.discovery.com/

pogo, that unc help & support page must know their readership. did you catch the warning?

"Warning
You do not need to use the entire jar of mayonnaise, only as much as you like."

Solar, didn't find that article at the DSC site, but found this tidbit - Dirty Jobs' episode tonight at 9:00 - balogna maker (which would be baloney maker among real americans).

pat, I did see that. And here I always thought UNC students were pretty smart - lord knows it's hard enough to get in there.

BTW, if ty's not around, someone open that link of hers and let me know which Little Feat song she likes.

69.7 billion needed per gates' war estimate

http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docID=cqmidday-000003003320

these pinched penny days it's no longer a choice between guns and butter, but more like sticks, stones and forget-it-we-ate-the-cow.

pogo i think it was Little Feat
Willin'

i been warped by the rain, driven by the snow
i'm drunk and dirty don't you know, and i'm still, oh i'm still
out on the road late at night, i seen my pretty Alice in every head light

I've been from Tuscon to Tucumcari
Tehachapi, to Tomapah
driven every kind of rig that's ever been made
now i've driven the back roads so i wouldn't get weighed

chorus
And if you give me weed, whites and wine
and show me a sigh
i'll be willin to be movin

Now I smuggled some smokes and folks from Mexico
Baked by the sum, every time I go to Mexico and I'm still
And I"ve been kicked by the wind, robbed by the sleet
Had my head stoved in and I'm still on my feet
And I'm willin, oh I'm willin

And I been from Tuscon to Tucumacari
Tehachapi to Tonapah
Driven every kind of rig that's ever been made
Driven the back roads so I wouldn't get weighed

And if you give me, weed, whites and wine
and show me a sigh
I'll be willin to be movin

Willin' and Oh, Atlanta are 2 of my favorites from the Waiting For Columbus album - along with Old Folks' Boogie - which seems to have more and more meaning to me - I have no idea why, though. :-)

. . . and I'm still (In a whole lot of trouble) ...

Pogo.. was Willin.. truly one of my top 3.. :)

I sure do miss Lowell George.. sigh..and Gram Parsons too..

Tony

Hi-----Here is a site that will fascinate. The Universe--play around in it --it's big

http://www.history.com/minisite.do?content_type=Minisite_Episodes&content_type_id=54041&display_order=6&mini_id=54036

Two little typos on Willin lyrics.. it's 'had my head snowed in' (truck talk) and 'show me a sign.'

solar, tho't you might be interested in this one. here's a quote from one of the congregation:

"The crucifix is the oldest and most famous symbol of the Christian church. Pulling it down and putting up something that would look more at home on the side of a flashy modern shopping centre is not the way to get more bums on seats.

"Next they'll be ripping out the pews and putting sofas in their place, or throwing out all the Bibles and replacing them with laptops. It's just not right."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/06/crucifixion-church-vicar-sculpture-copnall

Yep, ty, those were two great losses. Lowell was just getting his act together when he died. Damn shame.

I was peripherally aware of Parsons through his connection with Emmylou Harris and his work witht he Byrds on Sweetheart of the Rodeo, and later listened to the Flying Burrito Brothers stuff he did, although I wasn't much aware of it when it was current.

Here's the Willin' lyrics from the official Little Feat site (well, a link)

http://www.littlefeat.net/index.php?page=lyrics&dc_id=158

They list "head stoved in " although head snowed in woulxbrdztd probably have been sung by them at one time or another.

BTW, ty, Little Feat was Little Pogo's first R&R concert. We went and saw them at the HogFest concert about 2 years ago in Canaan Valley - outdoor lawn seating concert - and they just blew the doors off the place (well, you know what I mean). I've seen them several times, and age doesn't seem to diminish their playing or their presence. If anything, Paul Barrere just keeps improving.

Padt---thanks

"Next they'll be ripping out the pews and putting sofas in their place, or throwing out all the Bibles and replacing them with laptops. It's just not right."

There would be nothing that I would want more for a church to have ------living space for families ------let make them all into town houses and condos ( lost and lots of land they have for us builders)----All the $, all the labor, all the space, and materials( that has been spent thru out time )etc etc could house quite a few people,

,OH they forgot,,with the sofas and all,,they will need a front movie projector,,,with a 100 ft. screen. :-)))

make that a 100 inch screen ---

solar, dibs on the belfry.... for the pet bats.

A 50 gal gas fired water heater at Home Depot is nearly $700.

California attempts to regulate flat screen televisions
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-tv3-2009jan03,0,2869589.story

while they are at it...do away with instant on

Star Trek Chess -

Obama Wants Journalist for Surgeon General

By Howard Kurtz
President-elect Barack Obama has offered the job of surgeon general to Sanjay Gupta, the neurosurgeon and correspondent for CNN and CBS, according to two sources with knowledge of the situation.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2009/01/06/obama_wants_journalist_for_sur.html?hpid=topnews

I would think Sanjay would be a great SG. I catch his bits on CNN pretty regularly, and he has a broad knowledge of lots of things medical, seems to be a very smart guy, and has a name that's just a blast to goof with.

I remember seeing Dr. Gupta doing brain surgery during the invasion of Iraq.
Give to it the brain surgeon .

2 weeks left of Bush World.

I do not think Dr. Gupta is a good choice. I find his medical perspective to be very narrow.

Michael Moore and Dr. Gupta
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/56569/

That was a different Obama today. He seems to have the bit in his teeth.
I hope he reads us the riot act in 2 weeks.

Padt----weeeeeell OK---but that belfry would have been the dinner bell----guess we can go for another cow bell HA

Pogo---C-B---Ditto on Dr Gupta---he is very likable on sat mornings when he gives med. advise

As long as Obama is taking a lot of Clinton people he should bring back Jocelyn Elders

NEW THREAD

Apple changes iTunes prices; removes copy protection

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/products/2009-01-06-apple-macworld_N.htm

"Baloney Maker"

Isn't that the job Pat Buchanan had in the Nixon White House? . . . and Peggy Noonan working for Ronald Reagan?

YES - let's hear it for Jocelyn Elders! Recently I was thinking of other 'love affairs' people have, other than those with uteri (sp?)!