Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

OMG, is it me - first time in a blue moon.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/bushs-legacy-a-flawed-election.html#comment-189181

Damn Craig...I should have said my pet goat. Would have segued nicely into this post.

Ping...given this steady stream of posts from Craig on the Bush legacy, should I just go ahead and call an ambulance over to your house or do you just want me to give you a lift to ORMC?

Craig, What's with all this pointing out the incredible stupidity of the Bush presidency - working up topics for a best seller on the Bush legacy? Now there's an idea. Problem would be narrowing the subject to some managable number of fumbles. Keep up the good work Kemosabe.

LL, don't ya just hate missing juussstt thisss much? That would ahve been a master stroke. Oh, well.

Thanks for ripping of the scabs, there Craig.

craig, here's richard a. clarke with similar sentiments:
"There wasn't a second 9/11? That's obviously true, but it misses the point. First, we must remember that Al Qaeda terrorists are patient, deliberate planners who often wait years between strikes. Second, there was the first 9/11 - and it happened on Bush's watch. Without rehashing the entire 9/11 Commission Report, the historical record is pretty clear by now that Bush did virtually nothing about the repeated warnings to him that those cataclysmic attacks were coming. Unfortunately, I can personally attest to that as well."

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2009/01/08/2009-01-08_president_bush_saved_us_lives_thats_only.html

Daily Show Visits "Pundit School"

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/funny/daily_show_visits_pundit_school_105663.asp

Ping

Glenn Beck is a master of twisting syntax to make it sound as if he knows what he is talking about and that his statements are reasonable. Neither of those conditions is true.

He is one big right wing knee jerk. Here is a site that compares the statements he makes about Global warming and his supposed "debunking" of Al Gore and what the actual material said and why Beck's understanding (or purposeful presentation) is complete hooey

http://mediamatters.org/items/200705080009?f=h_top

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/bushs-most-fateful-day.html#comment-189191

Pogo...not sure what's worse: Either what I just did, or thinking of just the perfect rejoinder you should have had at the meeting that day after you've gone to bed that night and switched off the lights.

Editors at newspapers put up with all kinds of stupid comments (from one another) at brainstorming sessions to come up with story ideas.

A remember at one meeting less than a year after 9/11 we were trying to develop a story list for the obligatory anniversary section. One dummy at the table actually came up with this cliche of an observation: "You know, I think people have already forgotten 9/11. Don't you? Maybe that would make a good theme for a story."

I just gave him the most withering look I could summon and replied: "No. I don't think so. I sure remember 9/11 and I'm sure lots of other folks do, too. It was that day two or three great big jet planes ran into some big buildings and knocked them down. Remember? Yesirree. I haven't forgotten that day."

Stupid news cliches.

LL – LOL….

I am in San Fran right now – So long way back to ORMC.....

Wow Craig used a lot of words today just for Bush.... I hope it is good therapy for him and the other Press to get it out of the system... My O My....
Make sure not to bring up the lack of hand off from the one that’s wife is now taking Condee’s place…

Craig – feel better?

There's your boy Craig

cbob, thanks for the pundit clip. wonder if craig gets residuals or equity pay for a visual nano-second? at least a shot of the cq logo would have been nice. seeing as how they mistakenly imho included him in a series of dorks, they owe him something.

Reps. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.) and Zach Wamp (R-Tenn.) wrote a letter to Obama this week urging his support for a national “green bank,” and a fund to help homeowners retrofit their homes for energy efficiency.

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/van-hollen-wamp-team-up-for-green-banks-2009-01-11.html

It was handed off Ping but the information was marginalized. As far as the Bushies were concerned if it was important to the Clinton people then it was of no importance.
Remember they were still fixated on Russia and the fact that they were the most intelligent people in the universe.

Jack

Just saw pictures of children over in Gaza( burned )----white phosphorus,,,not a chemical weapon---but it is a chemical

used on civillians ----Champ put up figures that in Israel,in the past years( 7- I think) had only 25 deaths ---from fired missals,that came from Gaza,,,doesn't seem very proportionate to me??

"lack of hand off"

ping, either you haven't read clarke's stuff or, if so, you think he's lying. which is it?

Solar...the analysis can't be just a simple numbers game based on body counts. As Israel's foreign minister Tzipi Livni said just yesterday, no choices are good ones in the Middle East....

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/bushs-most-fateful-day.html#comment-189202

ping, i feel your pain my friend. i'd like to do a post on the best of bush's legacy (seriously) but will need some help.

Ping, buddy, you are attempting to rewrite history, I'm afraid. It's been pretty well documented that the Clinton intel folks urged the Bushie intel folks to keep a close eye on OBL, but they dismissed the advice. Sorry, but you're trying to put lipstick on that pig (can we say that nay more?)

Cbob

They need to go beyond that. A good many houses in my neighborhood are rentals. There is no incentive for the landlord to make them energy efficient, he doesn't pay the gas bills the tenant does.
I would like to see section 8 housing inspection have an energy efficiency section that the house has to pass before it is eligible for vouchers.

I know of houses where the utility bill is more than the rent.

Jack

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/bushs-most-fateful-day.html#comment-189209

Solar,

The town most frequently hit by the rockets now has protective shelters where the people live rather than above ground so fewer of them are hit and die.

Hamas on the other hand, stores its weapons and places its rockets in private homes, in schools and in mosques with no protection for the civilian population.

Now if you want to add in more than 100 deaths per year by suicide bombers and car bombs (not to mention the multiple hundreds of injuries) you might be closer to the truth.

It is the difference between a country that is trying to stop an attacking enemy that simply refuses to stop attacking and a political group that doesn't care how many of its people die as long as they can pursue their fanaticism.

Craig, maybe I can help you generate a few . . . no, I guess none come to mind.

Mexico's Calderon leaves door open to NAFTA discussions

WASHINGTON — Mexican President Felipe Calderon left the door open on Tuesday to discussion of possible changes in the North American Free Trade Agreement a day after talks with U.S. President-elect Barack Obama.

The Mexican government has been concerned about Obama's campaign promise to renegotiate NAFTA with the United States' two partners, Mexico and Canada.

After his final White House meeting with President George W. Bush a week before he hands over to Obama, Calderon joined his host in hailing the benefits of NAFTA, saying it had created jobs on both sides of the U.S.-Mexican border.

"As I indicated to President-elect Obama yesterday, we are willing to build on the foundation of what the free trade agreement has gained in order to focus on improving the benefits," Calderon said with Bush at his side in the Oval Office.

Craig....
the best of Bush's legacy?...... I will say this for him..... he obviously does believe in diversity.....

no one will forget 9/11.... I used to love that day..... it's my birthday.....
I've been afraid to celebrate these last 7 years.....

Craig,

Give him progress on treatment of AIDS in Africa so the past eight years aren't a complete waste of our precious time on earth.

"Citigroup plans to sever various corporate and
investment banking businesses"

I understand that they aree planning to merge with Morgan Stanley.

The new company will be called

Citi-Morg

Jack

Slideshow for the Detroit auto show

http://www.comcast.net/slideshow/finance-Auto_Show/

Jamie

I read yesterday that the major car companies had cut back there participation in the Auto show. This let the Chinese in on the main show room for the first time with their new electric car. It is the one that Flatus mentioned this morning and has financial backing of Warren Buffet.

Jack

The new company will be called

Citi-Morg

Citi-Morg
"Where your money goes to die"

Jack - your 4:03 gets my vote for post of the day.

Jack

Buy American ... Get the Volt

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17912_3-10140528-72.html

Craig

That may have been the most fateful for the nation

But the one that was most fateful for Bush was the day he decided to do his fundraiser while New Orleans was flooding.
The picture of him horsing around on stage with the singers and later his indifferent look out the window as his plane did a flyover of the damage ripped the veil from the eyes of Americans and forced them to see that the emperor had no clothes.

Jack

"best of bush's legacy"

two more to the list:

1. classy exiting transition and transfer

2. effectively saved us from a senator jeb (and maybe a president jeb if we're lucky)

Bob, this sounds like it's up your alley. What are the respective costs and emission figures for a plug in electric like the Volt versus a gas/electric hybrid like the Accord? I assume someone somewhere has done the comparisons.

It seems to me that some laws need chaning. Innauguration Day should be a holiday so everyone can share in the experience, but this isn't true.

For anyone wondering if Innauguration Day is a holiday, here is the info. Monday is a holiday for MLK Day, but Tuesday is only a Federal holiday as follows:

"NOTE: Inauguration Day, January 20, 2009, falls on a Tuesday. An employee who works in the District of Columbia, Montgomery or Prince George's Counties in Maryland, Arlington or Fairfax Counties in Virginia, or the cities of Alexandria or Falls Church in Virginia, and who is regularly scheduled to perform nonovertime work on Inauguration Day, is entitled to a holiday. (See 5 U.S.C. 6103(c).) There is no in-lieu-of-holiday for employees who are not regularly scheduled to work on Inauguration Day.'

Pogo,

Anyone buying a Volt would probably be wise to put in solar panels ... Cost to fuel car: Priceless :-)

"Buy American ... Get the Volt"

Jamie, that's fine. But. the leading indicator for our price at the pump is Chinese imports of oil. We want to do everything possible to reduce Chinese demand for petrol. Their electric car should help. And, if Buffett makes a buck in the process, we all come out ahead.

Pogo

Here's some info on all electric vehicle including my factious what if about solar panels.

A nod to Renee. If you have a power outage, your car can power your house.

http://www.calcars.org/vehicles.html

BTW, it's articles like this (admittedly almost a year old now) that prompted my question - along with the references to Volt above by Jamie.

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/products/environment/2008-02-25-plug-in-hybrids-pollution_N.htm

Now I must go exchange my powdered wig for my plumber's cap and fix Mrs. P's office toilet. Everyone have a good one (evening, that is).

Pogo -
When I see the Volt, I see it parked under a car port who's roof is covered with solar panels.

Speaking of solar power, the Fresnel lens we got, makes wood burst into flame is less than a second. The spot of the focus is so bright , we have to wear welders goggles.

Treasury nominee says he failed to pay taxes

By BRETT J. BLACKLEDGE, Associated Press Writer

Tuesday, January 13, 2009
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(01-13) 13:57 PST WASHINGTON (AP) --

President-elect Barack Obama's choice to run the Treasury Department and lead the economic rescue effort disclosed publicly Tuesday that he failed to pay $34,000 in taxes from 2001 to 2004, a last-minute complication in an otherwise smooth path to confirmation.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/01/13/national/w123701S19.DTL&tsp=1

Cbob- Posted at the end of the last thread so I didn't know if you saw it - Caution when reading anything from CapeWind. Bunch of crooks!! Just another big corp. looking to make money at the peoples expense. Nothing to do with the environment. There is another company that would like to place barges with windmills south of the island and most everyone is hoping that Capewind will be stopped and the other put in place. Here is a link to our group-
http://apns.convio.net/site/PageServer

"The other dark meat: Raccoon is making it to the table"

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/59566.html

"Raccoon made the first edition of The Joy of Cooking in 1931, back during that other big economic downturn. And some people still swear by it"

Hit a little too close to home eh?

has a blog of his own and he still poops here.
That's blogging in the 21st century.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/bushs-most-fateful-day.html#comment-189215

Jack,
would it not benefit the landlord to fix the houses and make them more energy efficient so if nothing else not be accused of being a slum lord? If the houses provided energy savings to the renter could the slum lord then raise the rent some to see a gain back for their investment?

didn't we see one time that Jack his on has a blog? Seem to remember something about his garden around his house. Jamie has a blog. Colorado Bob has several blogs. Lardass Liberal has that sex story blog.

Solar,

"Starve the women and children".... well that would be true if Israel controled the only entrance to Gaza. It would definitely make them the bad guys.

Now would you care to explain why Egypt won't open it's entrance?

Doots...

Unfortunately I had to shut the family-friendly sex site down due to professional complications a few months back. But the spirit of "Lardo's Retreat" lives on in each and every one of us who posted there!

If I still had "Lardo's" I could post a picture of my pre-Inauguration jersey myself instead of waiting for Craig to get around to it. Maybe I'll send it to Jamie to post on her blog, since Craig's turning up his nose.

Did anyone hear a good explanation of why the treasury nominee didn't pay his taxes? Doesn't exactly give me a good feeling about him.

Doesn't sound like an "honest mistake" for someone who should know things like that. No wonder this country is in such a financial mess. It seems the experts are dumber than the rest of us.

Jamie ----you missed the point,,,,are they torturing innocent people that are not hiding any Hamas, with white phosphorous,,and where is the sympathy for them,?

Yo soy
Just wish somebody would change the diapers once in a while but as management doesn't mind the smell who am I to complain.

Jack

I agree, Doots.
As the owner of two motorcycles and two Jack Russell Terriers, I firmly believe that one of anything isn't nearly enough.

I was pleasantly surprised when bush actually did a good job of dodging that shoe.

I will be the first to offer something positive on Bush. I really enjoyed his annual Barney Christmas videos. I also think he does have a fairly good sense of humor. Well, I have laughed at him several times.

Solar...my only point up above was that the "numbers game" or the "body count" alone really tends to oversimplify a very complex situation.

I don't think "proportionality" is the issue here -- it's basic sovereignty and security. If the Mexican government started lobbing rockets indiscriminately into El Paso, we'd probably send in the U.S. Army and not stop until we rooted out and/or killed all the people shooting them at us....even if more of their civilians than ours were ultimately killed. Nobody would be worried much about "proportionality" in that case.

Now, if Israel pre-emptively uncorked a nuke over downtown Tehran next week just to stop the Iranian weapons development program -- then I think you could have a proportionality discussion.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/bushs-most-fateful-day.html#comment-189261

ha, lard, i would post your fabulous t-shirt but i am very busy at the moment cooking a pork tenderloin over red cabbage and apples in my clay pot and it smells so wonderful right now that i am unable to focus on my web mastering duties. jamie, it's yours if you're there.

H D thank you for asking in a civilized way---but why would I provide info that tells someone that im not welcomed near my family(children)---and in what context was it,,,thanks

Oh good. Now Mike Huckabee is the arbiter of good taste in politics.

Christ almighty.

"piss off psycho. "

Where is the blog police? Why can he make this kind of continual attack and never have his hands slapped?

Yo soy,

You can't shame a slum lord type. But they can be put out of business if the quality of their housing is worse than comprable priced housing. Houses do get reputations and the tenant churn can effect profits. But we aren't talking about people people that think that far ahead.
Also, a lot of slum lord types rent section 8. They do the minimum to pass inspection. If you add insulation and weatherization requirements the they will still do the miniumum. BTW in my neighborhood section 8 is better than the market.

As far as being able to rent for more not really people look at the rent number and don't think about the cost of utilities.. This is especially true when the landlord does a cheap cosmetic rehab. In that case they both look the same to the average renter. Behind painted sheet rock uninsulated walls look the same as those with insulation and most renters don't think about the advantage of having a new furnace.

My wife and I have had this discussion and she thinks I put too much into my houses but I keep arguing that in the end we will get better renter who will stay longer.
In the end the market will tell wheather I am right or she is.

Jack

Where is the blog police? Why can he make this kind of continual attack and never have his hands slapped?

don't you try to slap his face every day Patsi?

you and jack and solar seem to have want to always stir it up even when he is not here.

Does anyone else think that Neal Kash Kari guy who has been in charge of the biggest direct money transfer in history looks and sounds very much like the David Schwimmer character from the popular TV hit "Friends"?

I do. And it's scaring me, especially since the first $350 Billion has apparently been lost.

What a great episode! I bet the Jennifer Anniston character will never date him now!

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/happy-trails-for-the-holidays.html#comment-185224

this is the comment that Solar made.

Sturge is right- he dodges shoes well. He also is a decent fisherman.
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushfishingvacation.htm

Solar

Shame on you for teaching those neices and nephews bad words

Boy howdy if that was against the law all us uncles would be in jail.

Jack

H D and you are talking to the person that I told that to-----did you bother to read her comments,,,afterward,,,or wtf

I see the full moon rising... I guess with a full moon, some feel the need to howl.

Maybe time for a joke, eh Solar?:

A man walks into a pharmacy and wanders up & down the aisles. The sales girl notices him and asks him if she can help him.

He answers that he is looking for a box of tampons for his wife.

She directs him down the correct aisle.

A few minutes later, he deposits a huge bag of cotton balls and a ball of string on the counter.

She says, confused, 'Sir, I thought you were looking for some tampons for your wife?

He answers, 'You see, it's like this, yesterday, I sent my wife to the store to get me a carton of cigarettes, and she came back with a tin of tobacco and some rolling papers; cause it's sooo-ooo--oo-ooo much cheaper.

So, I figure if I have to roll my own .......... so does she.

duck goes into a drug store asks for some chapstick.....the clerk gets it and says, "will that be cash, sir?" He says, "No, thanks, just put it on my bill.

Thank you----thank you,,,love both of them thar jokes.

A little jimmy buffet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85gO8XLb4ug

Solar, there was no time to get your approval first. I was running for the crash cart.

Devil went down to Jamaica

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSmNuHQzlYg

If you enjoy simple numbers games:

Israeli-Palestinian Fatalities Since 2000 - Key Trends*

http://domino.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/d9d90d845776b7af85256d08006f3ae9/be07c80cda4579468525734800500272!OpenDocument

"Can't they all just get along?"

Here's one for you Solar- sorry but it's the only one I can remember and no offense meant to the rest of my clan.

What's the difference between an irish wedding and an irish wake?

a bit of suspense- scroll down.

one less drunk.

oops, forgot , not in the box anymore, didn't work.

The Great Smoke Off

Shel Silverstein.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVfE_-ZJAxc

Carol

good timing,,,sorry about my poor Oh Carol song,,,here---gave it to you in English ---before,,a little diff now

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS0DArWyYQE#

Speaking of numbers games...

Steely Dan Live 1996: Ricky Don't Lose That Number

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IocHM0n75DI

OSH

where have you been?,,,,,,swinging again-----I was thinking of you---on the science Chanel,,they showed how two diff people from diff states wil be able to dance together,,,,,hologram stuff,,,,going to have more virtual friends that real ones later

Well I understood the Carol part. I have always wanted to learn Spanish but no one to talk to so what I learn seems to just leak out. I have learned a few words. el bano, comida... Those two words could get me by.

Champ

When it comes to Israel there are no simple numbers.
It feels like listening to Baghdad bob, you can't even get a coherent set of facts.
In fact I would rather be stuck at a hotel that accidentally book Handgun inc and the NRA on the same weekend.

Not gonna get in a gun control argument nor an Arab/Israel one either.

Jack

Wow, keep em coming Jack! Use to know him, he was a nice man, miss seeing him around.

Champ

Thanks,,,,and that was in 2007,,,wonder what the new numbers are

Lardo,

I would be honored to post your jersey. How about a picture of you to go with it?

Hey Solar, I been checking in on you all, but honestly got enough bs going on around here (at home), sometimes I just don't need to add to it. Just need a lugh instead. Hope you're feeling better!

Carol

Excellent,,,,but don't say those two words in the same sentence,,,unless you want to eat in the bath room...lol

I started to learn Polish,,cos lot of them in the construction field,,,,talk about a happy group!!

old shel:

http://shelsilverstein.tripod.com/021251.jpg

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/bushs-most-fateful-day.html#comment-189263

Solar,

I don't know that they are doing anything of the sort. No western reporters are allowed into Gaza. They have already been caught using photos of events that Hama itself did in 2005 ... old pictures. I don't doubt that innocents have been wounded and killed. At the same time I don't trust any information put out by Hamas until there is confirmation of the events.

There is one very simple way to bring a stop to the whole thing. ... Stop shooting rockets into Israel. Stop sending car bombs into Israel. Stop signing up suicide bombers to blow themselves up into Israel, and stop importing weapons from Iran to use against Israel.

End of problem

Sturge- that link didn't work

Hey all
Ole Pat has some good points about Bush in this piece.
http://buchanan.org/blog/
"PJB: An Unreflective Man"

"Nor does there appear in Bush’s self-assurance any awareness of the cost of his Freedom Agenda. In Iraq, it is 4,000 U.S. dead, 30,000 wounded, hundreds of thousands of Iraqi dead, millions of refugees, a pogrom against an ancient Christian community, and a strategic victory for Iran and its Shia allies across the Middle East. When last heard from, the Ayatollah Sistani — the chief Shia cleric in Iraq, who has welcomed Iranian but not American visitors — was calling for Muslims to stand up against Israeli criminality in Gaza."

Craig,
A few observations.

1. You would be surprised what plots come down the wire. Clinton left office with a. little control on deteriorating Pakistani/Indian relationship (going nuclear) b. lack of public desire to "get OBL" (Left wanted to lift sanctions on Saddam), c. Saddam hoping Iran would think he was rebuilding WMD capacity, d. Sudan and Somali turning darker with Rwanda a complete tragedy, e. a Clinton/Gore green light for Russia to arm Iran, f. NK suspected of screwing Clinton agreement, Palestinian bombers going off in Israel and of course g. the nut we armed, OBL as plotting. There was a similar aviation plot centered from Indonesian that Clinton thwarted. Clark most feared biological threats.

2. The saddest day happened sometime around 2003, when half of this country forgot what it was like thinking that our way of life had forever changed. At first for a year we realized how easy it would be to terrorize the West and eventual get WMD to hit us. By the time of our invasion of Iraq, many on the Left had drifted back into "normalcy" and joined the choir that most terrorists lived in caves and the US was the world’s greatest evil. So the saddest day was when we forgot the import of 9/11 and allowed of public standard to fall into the gutter. In reality, with every minute that goes by on the clock, things are meeting predictions. Boy will we be surprised, but then Obama ought to already know this.

3. And let us be clear in regard to warnings and potential threats. Sure, that briefing was something to consider. What if the terrorists crashed their plan into a nuclear reactor? Despite that fateful day (and there has not been another during the remainder of the Bush years), Obama is coming to office with a UN failure happening in Lebanon, Sudan, Somalia etc.. Yes, Barak must consider Kenya, Somalia and the Sudan. He knows from intelligence reports that Iran is supplying Hamas via Somalian pirates. Perhaps he should inform Carter. From the Sudan to Iraq including South America, Iran is pulling terror strings. Obama also knows from reports that NK may be working with Syria and Iran to develop WMD, spreading out facilities between countries. Barak hears some expert estimates at 1 to 3 years before Iran builds a bomb and has delivery systems. He knows now how weak that NIE Report was just about two years ago.

Obama sees the flexing of Russia with EUrope feeling the energy mafia. He see the US lead in Space stumbling. He now realizes that hitting Pakistan is not sole answer as the Taliban take new territory since the rise of the Moderates Obama heralded. He knows that Hizb'Allah is building lethal offenses under the nose of the UN. He sees the threat to his own relatives in Kenya.

He knows his stimulus plan will push deficits so high, how will increase defense, send aid and stand up to both America’s adversaries and America's lenders?

SO I hope Obama understands that it wasn't so much whether Bush grasped the full meaning of the daily briefing, but whether America gets it. I have some hope that Obama will decide to make peace with the GOP to the Left's dismay. Armed with moderate Republicans, Obama will have the numbers to steer center and keep force on the table. Like Kennedy, he will have his tests. As I listen to blogworld, it seems many Liberals are disappointed with Obama.

I suggest they stay away from that bus.

Craig -
Something good about Bush ?

AIDS in Africa ...... I've heard for years about how much good he's done, I.E. funding increase. But I've never seen a report on the ground about how he's efforts helped . I'm sure there are some, but it's gotten zero attention.

OSH

Shel Silverstein was a creative genius.
He could do some of the most imaginative inocent stuff and then some piece of rauch.

Some of the funnest songs out there he wrote

Since we are on numbers tonight
How about this one sung by Bobby Bare

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5yJvtM04VQ

Jack

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/bushs-most-fateful-day.html#comment-189321

Jamie
I so much agree with your post.Thanks

OSH----yes I am,,,,just being patient like Tony said before exercising again.----About Irish funnerals and weddings and such been to a lot of them, my best friend is Irish,,,,,and the only thing that I was not allowed to do was root against N D ,,,I did one time,,,his sisters, brother, father all sat on me and kept my mouth shut until the game was over,,,and then acted like nothing happened ---they were my 2nd family.

Flatus, Congratulations on the arrival of Heaven! A nice healthy 8 pounds.... way to go.

Jamie----thanks,,,lot to think about no?

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/bushs-most-fateful-day.html#comment-189329

Good Boy....I say go to a mall and look around you will feel better about taking a break from the workouts...........

Lardo,

I put up her web page when she was first named. She is truly fascinating.

http://www.elizabethalexander.net/home.html

At the Atlantic, Marc Ambinder is reporting that this evening President Elect Obama is dining with convservative opinion makers--William Kristol & David Brooks, at a home reportedly owned by George Will.

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2009/01/obama_dines_with_conservative.php

Yeah Solar...watch your house be bulldozed, your family shot, a settlement stocked with foreigners built on the land of your fathers, and live in a cage.. just let it happen and everything will be hunky-dorey!

I've been continually outraged by Bush's daily 'fateful days' since about 2002 when his game became clear.

What comes to mind? Nearly selling our ports, or the coverage thereof. Habeas corpus? Eminent domain? Torture? The economy? Domestic spying? Katrina? The Pet Goat book?

Horrible, horrible.

tt

Tony --I did do my push ups and a little snow shoveling,,,,,very cold today,,,sunny but cold----getting a very col front here.

Strategy Page

Here is what is happening in Gaza. Many LIberals won't face the facts. I was hardly comfortable with Obama's record on the subject, but since going center, he seems to get it. Maybe others can too.

Israel agreed to a ceasefire in Lebanon after Hizb'Allah attacked Israeli soldiers and they moved to crush the terrorists. The UN mandate that sent Israel packing was to disarm militants and keep weapons out. What a friggin joke. The UN can't even triangulate those firing a missile at Israel less that 4.5 miles away from their headquarters.

Carter says Israel should just bomb the tunnels. What garbage. Carter lies when he pretends he doesn't know many ways the weapons flow into Gaza. That is why Carter and others are propagandists. Ban goes to Gaza? And talk with who? THe UN considers Hamas a terror group...LOL Not one word from the noble Left when Hamas militants drag children shields as the IDF approaches. They keep families in booby=trapped buildings. They put munitions next to hospitals and mortars in mosques. They are terrorists using chaos now to kill Fatah, but yall make them equals.

There were global sanctions on Gaza BECAUSE of the Hamas charter, record and actions. Simple enough? The Palestinians elected a terror group and the world answered back. Let's be honest please, many posting here want Israel to go away, to vanish. Given Iranian and AQ designs, the irony is mind-numbing.

Hey Solar, I think you sent some of that cold down our way. It's going to be 28 here tonight.

Max...you're a sight for sore eyes. Welcome back. It's nice to have long posts that are actually coherent and worth reading.

Jamie...I sent the pic of the shirt to Webthings...not sure if it got through. If it did, you have full North American distribution rights.

http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/israel/articles/20090113.aspx

Strategy Page

max, I agree with you on Israel.

tt

Champ----that is why I did all that long ass boring post,,,,shows a lot of History,,,,a few families go all the way back to Jesus's time,,,,,,they should be protected at least,,,,,,I do see the other side of though,,,,,,but I guess you can;t show how tough you are,,,if you don't kick someones teeth out,,,even while they are unconscious ...How are you doing,,,,,you never told us anything about your vacation in the ?? I forgot,,,,anyway good to hear from you from time to time,,,,,,,say hello to Chloe as long as u r here "-)

Numbers Huh? Remember somebody could be watching you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD7MHgskNwg

max, don't ya just wonder where the world wide outrage has been as Hamas has shot missiles & mortars into Israel for years?

Even the PA (Palestine Authority) doesn't like Hamas.

tt

Chole

Sorry that was meant for that wise guy in Florida----I will have better aim nest time,,,,put on some ole flannels on tonight.

Hey Lard,
Glad I could help. I got so busy I rarely have time to wander. Stubborn Facts has an interesting thread I rambled on with regarding Gaza and Hamas. As you can see, I have no options other than root for the Obamanator. Yes, he brings in record mud from Chicago, but he hasn't been indicted. You got to give him credit for that. And the Past has long since blown away. This is it baby......He will start walking a mine field. As the pragmatic egoist he is (and I don't necessarily mean that in a bad way...LOL), he would be well served quickly taking up the wartime mantle and slapping us into economic and geopolitical reality.

Yeah,.....Independent thinking.......

There's a gay dude on a moped watching me right now? Creepy. I'm going to go put on some pants.

"that was meant for that wise guy in Florida"

Ha! Florida has weather more like Hawaii. Tony's never cold.
Flannels, lots of heat and a big fire. :)

Max...stick around.

We're going to need you, especially while the world tries to figure out why Egypt can't (or just doesn't) seal off the frickin' tunnels.

I mean, it's not the Holland Tunnel. Just seal the damn things off.

Jack- it was amazing how multi talented that man was. Love his cartoons too. Thanks for the numbers song.

Flatus- Congrats!

Jack,
Sorry to hear about your nephew being sent to Iraq.

Solar,
I am so sorry to see all the crap you had to put up with tonight. I think some people must just thrive on it.

Yeah tt, We go from watching the media handle Clinton, Obama, Palin to Israel.

UNwar was asked why a video showing militants firing mortars at Israel from a UN school in 2007 was never investigated. Now they call for investigation of the UN school incident? Despite two militants dying from return volley from the IDF at the UN school, witnesses claiming weapons were in the school and secondary explsions indicted booby traps, media prints the story they want. How about the CPR story they later retracted?. The NYT wanted none of the truth as they ran stories on white phosphorous supported by comments from a Norwegian doctor in Gaza who though 9/11 was a good thing. He's Mads...

Me too, Jack. About your nephew.

I also worry that "Iraq" is something Obama will have to own from Day One, whether he likes it or not. And if he withdraws too quickly, and that country descends into chaos, that it will be blamed on him .... not Bush and Cheney.

Sort of like Vietnam. No one blames Ike and Kennedy much. Just LBJ, who knew from the beginning it was a losing cause, and Nixon...who (Obama-like) only wanted out, and nothing else.

I'm worried.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/bushs-most-fateful-day.html#comment-189335

Champ, The ones who stayed put instead of believing the surrounding countries encouraging them to leave so that Israel could be driven into the sea are still there with their families in their homes. They are Israeli citizens and make up about 20% of the population.

Alternative. If the surrounding Arab countries had taken in the Palestinians who had left Israel at their behest rather than refusing admittance and confining them to those camps so that there was an anti Israel talking point, then they would have lives as citizens of other places.

All Israel did was build a modern, democratic nation surrounded by enemies while defending itself. Have there been bad things done by the Israelis, definitely, but the fault lies with those who don't want peace and are not willing to negotiate in good faith and then abide by the agreements made.

Chloe

That co. I told you about is in two other states now----they are a growing energy company----they have invited me to be a consultant for them,,,going to check them out further,,,,but they did get a license,,,,and there will be a lot of start ups....this one has been around for about 5-7 years. Everything is just talking,,,on my end ,,,and learning something never hurts.

Patsi-----Thank you,,,once again

Flatus,,,,,congratulations --

Chole

It is getting to be the norm around here---Carol,,and OSH showed up and saved the day,,,cpl of little jokes and Im fine,,,thanks for caring so much,,,,

"-they have invited me to be a consultant for them"

Solar! Things are going your way. I can see it coming.

http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=5846

What's up with Egypt and those tunnels. deka has a lead article on Somalian transport of weapons. In the end. Obama had better extract his relatives from Kenya. How the world just watches the problems in Kenya and the threat to humans AND animals, is stunning.

Now what will the Saudis do?

Please, Jamie, my eyes are going to roll so far backwards they'll fall out of my ass if you keep it up, and I need those eyes, to see and stuff like that.

I want to thank Patsi too. For always sticking up for what's right. Keeping things on the up and up.

Solar- not surprised we can be kinda weird like that. It's said that the Irish have long memories- in my experiences mostly no memory at all, just don't piss em off too bad!

Patsi

I just want you to know that I have all your pictures saved in my document pictures,,,,,,if I can get my nephew to send some ( E- Mail) that we took over the Christmas Holidays I will post them and show you some of our little Maria's (middle name---cool) with me holding them------maybe I should not have said holding them...HA

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/bushs-most-fateful-day.html#comment-189354

You seem to thrive on defining and characterizing the inter-personal drama that's predictably generated here on a daily basis, even when you're not involved in the original discussions.

Just as a scientific exercise, maybe you should ignore the drama for awhile. Just be yourself and post your own original thoughts on issues of the day instead of worrying so much about the interactions (or perceived, out-of-context wounds) of others, at whatever point you choose to log in.

For instance, the other day you dinged me for "dropping a bomb" and then scramming out. That's not my style. I own my comments on this place, totally. It annoyed me for you to imply otherwise.

I just don't have all day to monitor every single reaction to every single thing I post. But I do try to come in later and mop up (or apologize, when need be) later.

--Lardo

"------maybe I should not have said holding them...HA"

It's obvious you shouldn't even make jokes here, Solar.

Lardo,

The T Shirt is up for all to behold. Are you inside it?

http://jdurward.blogspot.com/

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/bushs-most-fateful-day.html#comment-189367

I'm asking you to never address me again. You have no credibility in my eyes, and there's nothing you will ever say that I'm interested in hearing. You're just downright mean, and I don't know why it took me so long to notice.

Lard -- my sentiments exactly.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/bushs-most-fateful-day.html#comment-189370

Sorry. Request denied. I will address you as I see fit.

Lard and anyone else -- when I said My sentiments -- I was referring only to Lard's Bush post. I thought I had permalinked it.

OSH

John and myself are best friends,my Mother made him part of our Mexican family,,,,and his Mother made me part of their Irish family,,,,we were in the Marines together ,,,,saved his life once,,,not in the service, we have never said a mean thing towards one another,,,,and I have 4 other friends almost as close,, when we get together,,we are 18 yaers old again,,,

I wasn't referring to Lard's post to Chloe. (I don't think she is a Drama Queen at all.) Nor do I have a beef with Lard. I think they have often misunderstood the others' posts.

Jame...thanks! That's great. And you absolutely do own all the North American rights.

Patsi--LOL. No problem. I don't expect you to get between me and Chloe.

Chloe...you should just relax. You pissed me off, I pissed you off, but I don't that should mean the end of the relationship. Whatever.

Lardo

What was the purpose of this?,,,showing off?

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/bushs-most-fateful-day.html#comment-189340

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/bushs-most-fateful-day.html#comment-189363

Don't bother to present any facts otherwise, just roll your eyes. That requires much less thought facts or energy

My eyes, my eyes! *plop*

Solar- lucky you, friends like that are rare.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/bushs-most-fateful-day.html#comment-189377

Solar...

Nothing sinister or showing off.

I was welcoming back a long lost member of the tribe--MaxTrue.

He was here long before you, and could definitely rival you in the lengths of posts (and complaints about them).

I hope you two will chat at some point.

I will add that Max was the one who caught flak for the cut and paste. As it turned out he was a wonderful conversationalist even when you disagree with him after he gave up that habit.

And those were pearls that were his eyes.

Lard----welll ok---I know that my post are not up to the standards of this blog,,,,,and before you came back----I explained a lot about myself,,they decided to take me as I am,,,,long post,,,mangle the english language and all.

I did lurk for a long time before posting,,,,and said on a few occasioins that Max was an excellent poster. I don't think that there any shabby posters here other than me,,,do you agree.??

Yes, I find most people are wonderful once they conform to my standards.

are pearls

Could someone please tell me how to post another comment in blue like Lard just did?

Solar,

You are not a shabby poster. You are a thoughtful generous spirit. It's not you that anyone is objecting to, it is the cut and paste that could just be summarized and linked so that we would know the point you are making and could refer to the longer article at leisure.

Solar..don't worry. You're doing just fine.

The Bard's spinning right now, Lard; spinning. For shame.

point your mouse at the date on the post you want to copy and right click select copy link location. left click go to comments box and click on the box and then right click and select paste. Left click and there you go.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/bushs-most-fateful-day.html#comment-189387

correction at the comments box right click and select paste.

Go to the comment you want to reference.

Right click on the date beneath the comment
Highlight and left click on "copy shortcut"

Come down to the comment box and place cursor in box, right click to open menu and left click on "Paste"

.http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/bushs-most-fateful-day.html#comment-189391
Aha, the date, thank you yo soy Horsedooty!

Full fathoms five thy father lies
Of his bones are coral made
Those are pearls that were his eyes;
Nothing of him that doth fade
But doth suffer a sea-change
Into something rich and strange.
Sea-nymphs hourly ring his knell.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/bushs-most-fateful-day.html#comment-189390

Champ...LOL.

Oh Jeez -- I thought I had done just that, Doots -- but I just realized I didn't "right click." Thanks....I'm going to try it out.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/bushs-most-fateful-day.html#comment-189391

Jamie,

jinks you owe me a coke!

OSH, you got at period in front of the "http" so it didn't turn blue.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/bushs-most-fateful-day.html#comment-189391

Jamie...Champ...
Thanks for defending the integrity of Billy Shake.
A truly wonderful verse, that is.

there you go Patsi works like a charm!

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/bushs-most-fateful-day.html#comment-189349

Chloe
Ha Ha..It was a nasty day today here rainy and around 70.I had a job in Ormond Beach today right on the Atlantic and wuss me was wishing for the 90,s like my friend Baz is having in Melbourne,Australia. It was 93 at 300am in Melbourne as I was speaking to him yesterday, makes me wish for summer..Keep your chin up and keep smiling......

The Tempest is one of my favorites of old Will's efforts. A pretty fair writer he was. Too bad he just stuck to all that popular, crowd pleasing stuff.

He gave us King Lear, which beat the Greeks and Hamlet even on tragedy.

Henry IV, part I, which beat any other historical play in history. (sorry Oliver Stone)

And the Tempest...best and darkest of all of the comedies.

Dooty,

I'll get you an orange juice since I refuse to contribute to delinquency.

Solar,

If someone only read the quote without knowing what preceded or followed it, it sounded a little strange. I defended you because I did see it all and knew that the comments were innocent. Dooty may not have. In any case, he is a fair man and I'm sure doesn't mean you ill in any way.

Now, printing something out and then typing it verbatim doesn't change the fact that it is the equivalent of cut and paste, you are just doing it the hard way. All I can say is that you are much more interesting and readable when you are talking for yourself.

You will note that virtually everyone else uses the comment and link method in order to keep the conversation moving rapidly and not throwing a log jam into the middle of everything.

Lard

I am 59 years old,,,,I don't need an approval ,,,thanks ,I was just telling you some info that you missed out on about me,,,,and that will be the last time that I will let you kook down at me,,,,that is all,,,,,,if my post are incoherent please scroll past them,that is my last word on this now.

Solar,

I could always read the posts I just could not write to the blog. I read what you wrote in real time. I have always been here.

I find inter-personal theatrics are best reserved for one's mother. Translation: Save the drama for your mamma.

Enjoy a song, instead:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3DrL8pwu1k

and Solar I make my own mind. I am not someones lackey either. You are so wrong it must make your head spin.

Solar...I would never kook down on you. Ever.

H D thank you---If im wrong ---sorry,,,,but please also except Patsi's explanation,, about this very ugly story,,,,after all she would be the injured party,,,thank you

One more just because Radiohead is so fucking amazing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLRifPue5Ss&feature=related

Sorry for the relapse; I'm out-

Champ...great song posts. No sorry, papasan.

Mama Said

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZbHi0AfnPM

Chole------hey now that Champ is back and singing ---u still there?

Enjoy your evening folks. See you on the day light side of things.

Lard
the t shirt is great
thanks Jamie for putting it up

Jamie----thank you

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http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2009/01/bushs-most-fateful-day.html#comment-189408

Hey Solar
I know sometimes for me especially in the beginning of my time here at TM I felt inferior being among all these smart literate folks.I enjoy being around smart folks even though I'm just a lunch bucket type assembly line worker who now cleans for a living. I love to learn thats why I'm here and learn I have.That said, I have felt the looking down your nose feeling your talking about and it hurts. I think those who do that do so out of a need to feel superior,sad for them because it means their listening ears are off sometimes.I wish for you to keep on doing what you do and thats be yourself and keep telling us what you feel on the subjects and political news thats important to you.IMO thats the purpose of this blog.. So Blog On... Oh and Hell yes I'm being supportive!! Words cost nothing..........

Tony

was just going to log off----thanks,,,,,Tony I don't feel infeirior,,,I have a lot of confidence in myself...I have done too many things too feel otherwise,,,,but Im not egotistical enough to pretend,,,to people that would see right thru a pretense,,,,just like I can see false pride in some others....at this stage of my life, the last thing I need to do is bs myself,,,,,but I am learning an awful lot here,,,just like you said, Tony,,lunch buckets like you and I are fearless,,,,we have stepped out of our( littleworld) world cos,,,we see another interesting one,,and its not too late to learn a little about the people that read the kind of books that I have read, and want to read later on,,,,how many would feel adequate in my world of construction,,,or yours at 25 stories high,,,it would take a little nerve ,,,just diff schools of experience thats all pal, good night

"at 25 stories high,,,it would take a little nerve ,,,"

Solar,

at 25 stories up I would be quivering jello begging you to help me crawl down to safety, and believe me I would be on all fours creeping from arm hold to arm hold. I won't even go near windows in skyscrapers.

Everyone has their particular field of expertise.

does anyone here still believe JFKerry was a worse choice than WBush in 2004?

Thanks Jamie, but I think my fault was post length. I tried not to cut and paste too much.

Here's a thought. Obama said that the lessons of Iraq would not be transferred to Afghanistan. Although Biden admitted a surge of sorts was necessary, the Great Awakening was not the way to go. These two were adamant there WAS NO LESSON FROM IRAQ. And look who is running our military hopes in Afghanistan. How ironic….Watch as Obama co-opts Clinton and Bush. Here is what I am talking about.

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/opinion/op-ed/Lessons+from+Iraq/1173272/story.html

As far as Pakistan, Obama was wrong about the moderates. If he actually went forward with his threats Pakistan would crumble as the Taliban gained. Watch as he co-opts Clinton and Bush with additional surge added to the mix.

Obama ran against missile defense. Mow reality has set in and missile defense will go forward including freezing a new type of destroyer for more Aegis destroyers that can project missile defense.

Obama now must confront a developing nexus between Sudan, Somalia into the Middle East. THis is one way weapons go into Gaza. While he pushes for a fresh start, Turkey is holding suspect Iranian cargo via Hugo. Syria is going forward with nuke sites with Iran and NK support.

What we are seeing in not only must Obama move towards Hillary who he beat by painting her the conservative, but also Bush.

What this shows is that by Obama faking it with his voters, media helping out and the GOP running a lame campaign, Obama won. This is not an attack on Obama, but rather a simple observation. It does highlight the differences between a pragmatic egoist and a more principled idealist.

Already Hillary is getting flack for her remarks today. While we won't be seeing illegals with driver licenses anytime soon, we will see more of the same. The reason is that there are very sound ideas underlying American policy. It need adjustment and innovation, but it is borne from objective facts.

Those daily briefing Craig have made an impact on Obama. Yes, perhaps this is a critical evolution over Bush. Despite eight years of Mr. Brain, without Saddam and with Sunnis rejecting AQ and countering Iran, possibilities open up for a strong, determined Administration. I can only hope there will be made more Obama throws under the bus.

One more for Jamie

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/01/media_and_activists_ignore_hor.html

How true

will obama's taking office mean investigations into bush cheney or will the new administration inaugurate an era of feel-good kumbaya post-partisan amnesia?

---paraphrase of rachael maddow statement on her show.

inquiring minds want to know

"I'm really surprised to read/hear anyone hear state that liars and word-twisters etc should not be allowed to practice their craft in the media."

Bethy -- I think the point of what was said regarding presenting two sides was misinterpreted. No one suggested people be banned from speaking. But when people are lying -- as in that swiftboat episode -- they must be called out on it. To allow continual lying in the name of fairness is indredibly dangerous.

For example, it bothers me a great deal that in the name of "fairness" C-Span almost never corrects people calling in with information that has already been discredited.

By allowing those statements to stand, a great segment of the population then repeats it as gospel.

That is how civilizations become based on untruths.

"Everyone has their particular field of expertise."

That was a very nice post you made there Jamie. :)

Tony,
Thanks for the 'chin up' message. I feel so honored that you've taken the time to get to know me so well. That kind of sensitivity is hard to come by.