Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

"If you aren't first, you're last" Ricky Bobby

"When we spend all our time just focusing on things that are unique to us, it becomes harder for us to build the broad coalitions to deal with the problems that we have in common with everybody."

that obama quote would do us well to put in action here in our trail mix discussions.

Good morning y'all. Karl Rove is doing his best to try to stay relevant. It's a blue world and the red team doesn't want him anymore.

Ricky, I was HIGH when I said that.....it don't make no sense.....I mean, you can be second.....or third...or fourth or even fifth......

--Reese Bobby

Hilarious!!!

From the Tennessean:

Toby Keith took particular notice of President-elect Barack Obama's appointment of retired Marine Gen. James Jones to national security adviser. After Toby wrote "Courtesy of the Red, White and Blue" in response to Sept. 11, he began playing it for the military. Toby hadn't planned on releasing it as a single because he didn't want it to be interpreted as exploiting a national tragedy. James heard Toby sing it and encouraged him to release it as a single because it would be an important song for the military and the nation to hear. They became good friends and completed a goodwill tour of Africa together. James also inducted Toby into the Oklahoma Music Hall of Fame.

it may be the merest of coincidences but Toby Keith was on Colbert talking about smoking dope on Willie's bus and then a week or so later Willie's bus got busted on the way to Anne Richards' funeral......the youngest guy on the bus was 75 or so, and Willie said, "It was like busting an old folks home."

Hey Patsi, thanks, never tried it but figured it would be too delicate anyways. Asked because a woman who carries my products asked me to make a hot cocoa mix so I've been working up a recipe. Found that vanilla powder is often synthetic too. Just gonna grind my own beans

how do you pay a pirate?

"The pirates ask that the ransom is all in used dollar bills - normally $50 or $100 notes - according to those with experience of such negotiations.....
They usually also don't like dollar bills that were printed in 2000 or the years before."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7752813.stm

all I know about pure vanilla is that those little bottles are 35% alcohol...............

that pirate link above also introduces us to a new profession, high-paid ransom negotiators.

I wonder if that Ferrel who sang the "Cowboy" song at the end of "Talledega Nights" is any relation to Will.......

only thing I want to see about rove is his being asked, "How do you plead?"

marvelous things, these internet tubes......

wiki:

Lee Ferrell is a musician (keyboardist and saxophonist) for the band The Righteous Brothers, which he joined in 1967. He is also the father of actor Will Ferrell.

All I know about vanilla is that I like it when a woman smells like vanilla.

Sturg -- Very funny! But Rove will probably get a blanket pardon by his old muse.

Patd -- Do the pirates still have that tanker ship?

Are Lee and Will Ferrell related to Mike Ferrell?

I wish Rove would go away. No matter what he says, I know he's got be working an angle. Heck, in the country of Rove-istan, going away is probably an angle, too.

Maybe Lester Holt for MTP? Not sure what his political background is, but think he is under-used. I'm sure Today is a fun show to do, but... What about Seigenthaler? Heck, bring over Schiffer or somebody from PBS.

divalicias, this one?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7762310.stm

"In a move bound to create political tension between Latinos and Asian-Americans, a group of Chinese-American activists in Silicon Valley has launched a nationwide grass-roots movement to fight President-elect Barack Obama's nomination today of Bill Richardson as commerce secretary."

http://www.mercurynews.com/bizreports/ci_11123347

martinez replacement?
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/F/FL_MARTINEZ_SENATE_GLANCE_FLOL-?SITE=FLTAL&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/rove-likes-obama-so-far.html#comment-178794

Thanks Patd -- That was the one I was thinking about -- but I guess it's hard to decide which pirate-captured ship since there are so many that get captured. Nice that it was all resolved peacefully -- after the elders got involved. At least the pirates listen to their elders.

dick gregory coming up on imus......

a couple of great straight line set-ups this AM, but I cant.....I just cant......lol

mornin' all.

So back to Obama bashing, eh? LOLOL (Just thought I'd say that - don't mean nuthin'by it, Poobah).

Rove - I hope his blessing isn't the kiss of death. Smarmy asshole. Not sure the pardon power is prospective - never been used that way that I'm aware of. Should be an interesting test.

Toby Keith - not a bad guy - if you can get past the music and Okie uber-patriotism (I guess). At least he'sa Dem and a friend of Bill Richardson and Willie.

and mike no relation apparently to lee and will.......

Rove said what?..... eh... who cares.....

CBob....
I rant too much about spending time on this machine (like now)..... but the "new media" really is wonderful!...... many times while my hubby (his name will not be mentioned) and I are watching tv, one of us will have a question..... we come to this machine and get the answer within minutes.....

it wasn't that long ago that the only way to get the answer was to go to the local library and ask the reference librarian which source was needed to look it up.... and it usually took hours.....

the biggest topic we talk about on my library board meetings is "how do we stay relevant now that we are no longer needed for the answers"...... we are having the same budgetary problems as everyone else..... but we make sure to fully fund our computers needs.....

Here is one for Anon

"Until last week, no one in the U.K. had dared search Parliament since 1642, when such an act led to the beheading of King Charles I.

Then on Nov. 27, police investigating government leaks arrested opposition lawmaker Damian Green, 52, raided his parliamentary offices and seized his computers".

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aezqEFuXz0v0&refer=home

Jack

I see Saxby Chambliss won his reelection bid. Too bad. One more dishonorable Republican in the Senate.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/rove-likes-obama-so-far.html#comment-178795

Blue -- I saw that too. I'm not so sure I like Richardson as the head of DOC either, but for other reasons. Richardson has yet to apologize to Wen Ho Lee for how his case was mishandled, and he needs to do that. He also needs to sit down with the Chinese-American community for a clear the air session so the accusations of scape-goating can be vented and repaired.

Renee

The problem with the "new media" is that one can easily become a Gordo

All text has equal value unless you hqve some sort of filter

Jack

From the Uh Duh file of competence during the Bush administration:

Auditors Fault Treasury Policing of bailout funds

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ioHc80xKMiATnqCpK0cDKJzk_nPQD94R47QG0

"many times while my hubby (his name will not be mentioned) and I are watching tv"

Renee,

Don't you dare stop using Rick's name. It's one of the things I love about you - the great relationship and togetherness you two have. Thanks to you, he's just as real as you are, and I would hate it if you changed that.

"Lee Ferrell is a musician (keyboardist and saxophonist) for the band The Righteous Brothers, which he joined in 1967. He is also the father of actor Will Ferrell."

Well, I'll be damned. I initially wondered if you were just joking when you asked that, sturge....

3-D views of ancient rome.......

http://www.romereborn.virginia.edu./gallery.php

patsi.....no, didnt know......i had that movie playing on an endless loop at the shop for awhile and wondered that until this morning when i found out......took about a minute......these tubes is cool.......

also i think that's nashville bassist (and former lead player with waylon), jimmie sam gray singing harmony with townes on "Dead Flowers" at the end of Lebowski.......

"That is the advantage of large agriculture. There is enough money to be made to think of the future" whskyjack 8:01 PM

Jack,

I thought that was an excellent point you made there (although, in a perfect world, I think small farmers could have been better compensated and learned the same thing).

Of course, future profits is all the corporations are concerned with. And so be it. Money makes the world go round.

he played with waylon waaaaay back......'68 or so......

but I cant find that info about townes' version of the Stones song "Send me Dead Flowers"

"The recount in Minnesota's U.S. Senate race took a twist Tuesday when 171 ballots were found in a voting machine, narrowing Norm Coleman's lead over Al Franken."
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/12/02/Minnesotas_US_Senate_recount_continues/UPI-76261228231353/

Sturge -- I'm just knocked out by Justin Earle's retro "The Good Life."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA3sdQWICaI

(I think I posted this the other night...but in case you missed it...here's the link..)

patd -- the Franken run is getting even more interesting....from this morning's Star Tribune

http://tinyurl.com/55gcyx

RR

I rant too much about spending time on this machine (like now)..... but the "new media" really is wonderful!...... many times while my hubby (his name will not be mentioned)

Part of your charm is Rick----this gave me a big hahaha this morning------but Chloe is right -----I want Rick back.

about Rove-----he is to be watched and never believed -----he is the master of what is up my sleeve,,and it is always planned out to hurt the D's ----he must amuse himself quite a bit knowing that his every word is analyzed, and probably throws some coded words for the D's to go nuts over them-----

Obama is going to govern from the middle,,,and the extreme better get used to it---he has no choice,,,there is not $ to govern from the left field bleachers.

I agree ---this tube business is the greatest information machine around----now with the combination of channels like the science, history,,,,every one that can afford one can get the knowledge that they want----even on line education,,,a newspaper can't do that---

Great discussion on farming yesterday----small farms, are like the, small grocery stored they will go by the wayside---if not protected in someway that will help them------some kind of credit (tax) for buying organic??maybe hard to do,,but--------

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/rove-likes-obama-so-far.html#comment-178814

Patsi, I am so glad that you linked that song. (I'd never heard it before.) Thanks.

Off to get some work done.

good thing craig has a nyc apartment dweller to fill him in on all the things he misses by living in DC so far away from everything..........

"booble headed idiots who just shake their heads "yes" to whatever is put in front of them"

much better a booble headed idiot that says no to whatever is put in front of him.

"Dead Flowers" sung by townes and, I think, Jimmie Sam...........dont know about the pictures on the video, but the comment section is a good re-cap of great lines from Lebowski

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wonPmOhglhs

patsi.....nice song......steve's kid, eh?

Renee

I don't know about your Library, but many have access to the Ancestry records for genealogists. You can get the program for home use but it is a few hundred dollars, so it is still something that can bring people in to a library.

I love the Internet for information, but many people don't know how to do effective searches. This is something that only comes from experience and some libraries are making that research ability a central part of their relationship with the public and even more specifically with schools.

And the real glory of libraries is still the books. Very few people can afford a home library or the purchase of "read once" books. I would be totally lost without my library card, and I've got multiple stuffed bookcases. Can't imagine what it would be like for a child without books in the home.

Jeb Bush interested in Mel Martinez Senate seat.

That is scary on so many levels, and I actually sort of like Jeb.

The state of florida should be suing Jeb for selling the state mortgage backed securities as a Lehman brothers consultant

sending him to the senate is joke

If Georgia had ranked voting Martin would be in the senate
Runoffs are always a problem with turnout

DC Bars to stay open for four days straight during the Inauguration. Woo Hoo!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/03/inauguration-dc-bars-to-s_n_147987.html

Blue@7:57

Thanks for posting that link to the Wen Ho Lee case. I found this letter appealing:
http://www.wenholee.org/

It offers those who believe the case was seriously mishandled, to the detriment of Dr Lee and all Americans who believe the Bill of Rights is a substantial document, an opportunity to express their disapproval.

Renee.... Library??? Are you a librarian? I used to work in a library as an alternate "page" in the Children's Department. My "boss" and I became very good friends and still are. After I got my B.A. degree at Evergreen, I worked for the Dean of Library Services half time, while beginning my Master's program... I left when I got the job of Development Director at KAOS radio.

Libraries will always be necessary !!

NYC

An awful, bitter, catty, cursed, damned, despicable, despiteful, detestable, disgusting, evil, foul, gross, hateful, heinous, horrid, loathsome, malignant, mean, offensive, ornery, repugnant, repulsive, resentful, spiteful, uncool, undesirable, vicious, vile human being.

All the words that enter my mind if you do.

How Jeb Bush and Lehman Brothers Robbed Florida Taxpayers
By Volt

David Evans, Bloomberg.com, December 18, 2007

http://bartblog.bartcop.com/2007/12/21/how-jeb-bush-and-lehman-brothers-robbed-florida-taxpayers/

I don't like any Bush... they can all rot in hell for all I care...

Why anyone would care what Karl Rove thinks is beyond me. I want to hear from the person who knows how to put a stake in his heart.

Hey Chloe.... :-)

Don't hold back... tell us what you *really* think...

Sorry I just couldn't resist.

At first I thought you work talking about New York City. I love NYC! I've been there 3 times. It's a magic place really.

"No New York is where I'd rather stay...
I get allergic smelling hay...
I just adore a penthouse view...
Darlin' I love you but give me Park Avenue.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2WlYgDe1Vs

So I suppose that since Gates is staying as SecDef we should take that as a sign that Obama intends to continue the Bush Doctrine?

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/rove-likes-obama-so-far.html#comment-178841

Thanks Tom, for making light of it.
We should never take this stuff too seriously. (and I especially try to never take myself too seriously).

I've never been to NY and would never say such terrible things about any city.

Thanks again. :)

Frank SINATRA -New York New York
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM52Xsvw5NQ

Pogo I sort of think so... will this go down well with the left? No way! Is Craig correct? Is Obama going for the continuation of the Bush agenda and policies regarding the war?

FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30W3iRL48gQ

As a follow up to the discussion Monday (?) on college costs ...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/03/education/03college.html?em

ET, we don't know that and can't divine it from the tea leaves we get to see. I didn't even really mean to suggest that, because I don't believe it. I was just applying the reasoning that was used re: Daschle's appointment to one of the defining issues of the campaign. But then I suppose the view is clearer from an apt. in NYC.

chloe, now you've put a big smile on MY face. :-)

Well CHLOE I would say Frank did a great version of New York New York, but I still hold Liza's as the standard. The song was written for her by Fred Ebb with music by John Kander who also wrote Liza with a Z. Interesting thing about NY NY, the movie, is the parallels between it and her mother's film "A Star is Born". Both of these were about successful husbands who find their popularity waning while their wives take the spotlight. Both of them were seen as strong and in control while the husbands weren't. In reality, both Judy and Liza struggled horribly with success, depression, failed marriages, chemical dependancy etc. Also, Judy was deeply distraught when A Star is Born had the "Born in a Trunk" sequence edited out. Liza was deeply distraught when much of her favourite scenes in New York, New York were edited out. Both movies were eventually re-released in their original form....

Since I am on a tangent, here is a 1955 version of Judy singing "Over the Rainbow". t's a metaphor of Judy's life. Just listen to the difference between the 1939 version and the later versions. In 1939 there was a yearning, but hope that the rainbow could be found. In later versions, it was clear that Judy knew there was no such place over the rainbow, but she still sang the song as to show "I'm still here, and despite my pain, I am still here!!" This version really does cut to the heart! When she's crying, my heart is crying with her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hl20aUjZWc

Oh and Chloe, if you want to see some eye candy, watch Robert Di Niro in this clip of NY NY from 1977... WOW But then I am partial to Italians (l left the link off the last post)...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLeC9RvrKrU

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/rove-likes-obama-so-far.html#comment-178848

". In 1939 there was a yearning, but hope that the rainbow could be found."

All those things you just said were so great Tom.
That hope thing she had in '39 is something we all had more of when we were young. (That's why I like that saying so much: wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then).

Thanks for sharing all of that. Love hearing your insights.

The troll feels very strong today,,,yesterday he was fed all day and made strong----like what someone said before,,, don't feed the trolls.

So I suppose that since Gates is staying as SecDef we should take that as a sign that Obama intends to continue the Bush Doctrine?

Hey Pogo
I took it as a sign Obama wants to begin the wind downin Iraq now and keeping Gates avoids a transition delay. In theory Gates in working on that now...

It is Afghanistan that makes me wonder

Now I am away putting up my artificial white light Christmas tree... will hopefully check in later.

" if you want to see some eye candy, watch Robert Di Niro in this clip of NY NY from 1977... .."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLeC9RvrKrU

Tom,

Your absolutely right! Liza is the standard. I'd forgotten.
Hearing this good music this morning, it's nice to see something positive came out of my negativity. Thanks again. gotta go. :)

KC, as we say all the time in my profession - who knows? I suspect you're right, I hope you're right, but applying the "logic" of the local troll.

.. doesn't work.

WARNING: THIS IS HUMOR

I think, then again it could be real, you never know these days.

Here it is the EZ application for federal bailout money

http://mtblog.vanityfair.com/online/politics/2008/12/01/federalbailout.html

Pogo

Gates has been very busy the last 2 years undoing most of the Bush doctrine and restoreing accountability to the Department of defence. Under his watch people have even gotten fired,

Imagine that.

Jack

Sad news Odetta died. Especially heartbreaking in light of Patsi's earlier postings

News
Gates Expands US Right to Defend Against Plots

Tuesday 28 October 2008

»

by: Thom Shanker, The New York Times

photo
Secretary of Defense Robert Gates's statement expanded on the Bush administration's doctrine for pre-emptive war. (Photo: Chuck Kennedy / McClatchy)

Washington - Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates said Tuesday that the United States would hold "fully accountable" any country or group that helped terrorists to acquire or use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons.

The statement was the Bush administration's most expansive yet in attempting to articulate a vision of deterrence for the post-Sept. 11 world. It went beyond the cold war notion that a president could respond with overwhelming force against a country that directly attacked the United States or its allies with unconventional weapons.
http://www.truthout.org/102908J

Daschle is not my preferred HHS SEC, and I'm not the only one who feels this way. NARAL only gave him a 50% voting record. Also his time off the Hill was spent lobbying for CVS, Abbott Labs, and Health South. Obama has him as the point person for health care at the White House as well as HHS secretary. There goes universal health care.

http://www.rollingstone.com/blogs/taibbiunbound/2008/12/the-whore-factor.php

RR---and Rick

No stay being baaad-------but just be gooooooood at being bad

" responses get lamer all the time...."

ROFL, Renee! I know -- when I read his to you I thought, WTF does that even mean?

All the current DOD undersecs are out of jobs come January. Gates was never allowed to pick his own unders by the Bushies, and Cheney-ites.

Defense Secretary Gates Doesn’t Belong in Obama Cabinet
By Matthew Rothschild, October 29, 2008

A few days ago, the New York Times sketched out who would likely be in an Obama cabinet.

His Secretary of Defense was predicted to be none other than Robert Gates, who currently holds that post under Bush.

Obama should think again.

On Tuesday, Gates expanded the infamous Bush doctrine, saying, “The United States will hold any state, terrorist group, or other nonstate actor or individual fully accountable” for supporting or enabling terrorist efforts to obtain or use weapons of mass destruction.” And the definition of “supporting or enabling” was very broad: “whether by facilitating, financing, or providing expertise or safe haven for such efforts.”

Under this doctrine, the United States should have bombed Pakistan because it gave a safe haven to A.Q. Khan, who was running a nuclear Wal-Mart there.

Under this doctrine, the United States should have bombed Saudi Arabia, because it was financing bin Laden in Afghanistan.
http://www.progressive.org/mag/wx102908.html

KGC
That is not the Bush doctrine of pre-emptive strikes.
It is the old fashion containment /deterrence doctrine. That one involve a lot of threats of total destruction and many "we would be very unhappy if" , statements.

Jack

RR

I don't know what i would have done without libraries ,,,,,,that is where I spent most of my time during the day,,,instead of school,,,i felt that I was learning more on my own----and that is where I go to see if they have some of the books that are mentioned here---Rick is lucky to have,,,,,a 6' 4" tall sexy librarian :-))))))

Jack -----I found where im going to give my collection of Edgar Rice Burroughs ------if Renee wants them for her library-------if she want them i will start rounding them up?

charlie's interview re mel's vacancy
http://blogs.tampabay.com/buzz/2008/12/crist-word-for.html

Bethy---ok ok I'll behave!!

Patsi---Come (o) estas?? Ha I can't even spell right in Spantish!!!

Jack -- OMG! That bailout link you posted is hysterical....

Do I get to be an honorary Hispanic, Solar? My last name was almost Vega.

Thought for the day :
" An honest politician: One who stays bought. "

1586 Sir Thomas Herriot introduces potatoes to England, from Colombia
1621 Galileo perfects the telescope
1868 Trial of Jefferson Davis starts; 1st blacks on US trial jury
1930 Air-borne chemicals combine with fog to kill 60 (Meuse Valley Belgium)
1984 2,000 die from Union Carbide poison gas emission in Bhopal, India

If he kissed you ,,,you are- -----Patrcicia Vega---nice ring,,,,but i like Patsi--with an I.

I got a tetanus shot at the doctor's office this morning. So, I shouldn't pick up anything from being here.

I remember when I used to print off every e-mail because I hated reading text off of a screen. If you had told me about blogging back then, I couldn't have imagined having anything to do with it. Still like holding a book in my hands, though...and I don't think that Kindel-thing would take the place of book in hand, either.

crackers - Agree with you about the Jeb/Lehman Bros deal. If he ever had WH hopes, he can kiss them g'bye now. If W didn't ruin them for him, well, a lot of Floridians would write him off.

Renee, tis better to not have a neck, than to not have a brain.

WiskyJ -
I like the idea of warning labels of humor up ahead . I try and swerve to avoid it.

But, I can't .... Happy birthday to :
1966 Lisa Lightfoot Australian middle distance runner (Olympics-96)

You can't make that stuff up, it writes itself.

Truly sad about Odetta. It's a shame she didn't make it to the innaugural

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gBqnIyFhSolTj4oJA6syBErZnlTwD94RB1TO0

"Several protesters said corruption -- long viewed here with resigned apathy -- allowed repeated attacks to take place, accusing police and politicians of being more interested in collecting bribes than doing their jobs."

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jZI6Jmt9CN1GyFZJYK8SJxlFov9w

Bonus: The picture of the pretty, peacocks in uniform. Kind of Velociraptory-y.

C-Bob -- Don't know if you ever travel I-70 these days, but halfway between KC and Denver is this guy's studio...you'd enjoy it, and meeting him...

http://www.kansassampler.org/8wonders/artresults.php?id=97

Corey u funny as Rosie would say!

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/rove-likes-obama-so-far.html#comment-178880

This for the ones that I have(unintentional ) offended,,,and for the screw ups that I will probably do in the future.
I hope this picture comes out right.

http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=johnk175x250ax2.jpg

blue, completely agree with you and kgc re jeb. he almost did in what used to be a very open and progressive state government. charlie will probably work a deal with mel to step down a little short of his term and make an appointment favorable to charlie's future.

COREY!.... get your butt over here and clean up all the diet soda that got sprayed on my screen......

Solar.... I wish our library had room for old collections..... sadly it doesn't.....
but thanks for the nice offer anyways.....

CBob.... Patsi is right.... the link Jack warned about IS hysterical.....
and it's short.....

now I'll go back to being "bad".... and to work.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hl20aUjZWc

ET

The real crime with "A Star Is Born" is that many of the deleted scenes were destroyed. In the restoration version, you get the still photographs and the spoken dialogue. Some of the conversations sound truly powerful and you wish the film hadn't been lost.

I didn't know that about the film, Jamie -- damn! What a tragedy!

organic??maybe hard to do,,but--"
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/rove-likes-obama-so-far.html#comment-178816

You know Solar, what you say there is not so far off. The government needs to reward behavior that will help our country as a whole (and of course, punish that that will harm us). Their whole reason for being is, after all, representation and leadership. If they can't guide us in the right directions, then they fail.

The right promised us that Obama would turn the keys to Ft. Knox over to Huego Chavez. That hasn't happened yet.

Punditville is overwhelmed , predicting Obama moves, and our reactions to him is turning out to be risky ground. I wonder if Karl Rove will get a pardon ? I wonder what the new att. general ( Mr. Holder ?) thinks of Mr. Rove's actions ?

If I was Karl Rove, I'd be throwing roses too.

Now there's an angle I hadn't thought of yet. Good one, c'b.

Jack -
Here's "Yer Atta Boy".
That 11:48 post is the winner for the day . We can all go home now, the contest is over.
Just mail a check payable to : Charlene

C-Bob exactly---about Rove----his first concern is Rove,,,He can call his own shots, at the Foxy station (girls r pretty there)
after he is in the all clear zone???

Chole I used to say that the farmer should not get paid from the Government for ---not planting---fields,,,,,back 20 years ago this did not make any sense---now it does,,,,for all the reasons that Jamie posted-----but what happened to all the research grants that the corp gets---how is it spent?-----and is it spent?

found the link that Patd listed about the AA farmers very interesting also----how are they going to survive-----no bail out's for them or for us little guy' that need the help----what I was also thinking about---is that I don't know too much about the black farmer's history------just like I don't know too much about the black cowboy---or military---gonna read and catch up.

Yes, Gates may be a decent administrator, but using Rummy as a benchmark sets a low standard, dontchathink? He has continued to adminster the Bush doctrine and in the opinion of some commentators (thanks for the links, KC) has even expanded it. He may have straightened out some things in the Pentagon, although I'd love to see something other than a BBFF opinion on that point, but while he may not be a major architect of the Bush doctrine, he's been a patsy of Bush and Peteraeus for 2 years and in the face of a supposedly wildly successful surge, he has presided over a reduction of an anticipated 7,000 combat troops out of the aproximately 130,000-150,000 in Iraq, and that reduction didn't start until last month. Yeah, he's really rolled back a bunch of the mistakes of Rummy and dialed back the Bush doctrine, you betcha he has. The FDL crowd will be happy when Gates gets the "head 'em up, move 'em out" order to repudiate the Bush doctrine in Iraq.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081105/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_iraq_troops

Blue -
Mr. Holder is career Justice Dept. not some hack bag man picked - up by the Bush family, with a degree from some hub cap Christian law school.
The Justice Dept. is going to be very interesting the next year.

http://mtblog.vanityfair.com/online/politics/2008/12/01/federalbailout.html

oops, wrong copy . Was supposed to say that I echo Bob's attaboy to Jack and passed the link I (erroneously) posted in my just prior comment to our accounting dept.

RE ;
Richardson at Commerce
Richardson was probably the most business friendly governor, he's worked to create jobs in New Mexico. He gets it about energy.
When do we see the Interior Dept. and EPA Adim. ?

If Obama wants to change the government he could start by disbanding the Interior Dept. and starting over.

Karl Rove poke the bear? Never.

Senate recount: Pendulum swings to Franken

The Democrat gained from a cache of found ballots in Ramsey County, along with a decision on rejected absentee votes.

http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/senate/35382149.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiUJ

I'm wondering if the wheels of capitalism have dragged Ping in ?

Nations sign cluster-bomb ban; US, Russia refuse

By DOUG MELLGREN – 1 hour ago

OSLO, Norway (AP) — Afghanistan unexpectedly joined dozens of nations signing a treaty banning cluster bombs in an effort that supporters hope will shame the U.S., Russia and China and other non-signers into abandoning weapons blamed for maiming and killing civilians.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g4VmE_BVd6aTBq1MRw30t1Fp1DWgD94RCS0G0

Bloomberg -

He has yet to fill the posts at the head of the departments of energy, housing and urban development, agriculture, education, labor, transportation, interior and veterans affairs and environmental protection agency administrator.

Feds halt plan to drill in scenic Utah canyons

Together with previous deferrals, the BLM has pulled nearly 100,000 acres from an auction set for Dec. 19, leaving more than 276,000 acres up for bid.

Last week, the BLM pulled drilling leases that were located on and near the borders of Arches National Park, Dinosaur National Monument and Canyonlands National Park, all in Utah.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28028802/

Ping..we miss you and where is Fry Daddy?

From one of trhe links posted today regarding the Minnesota recount:

"The Franken campaign also is considering asking the U.S. Senate to decide the outcome. While Elias denied that any decision along that track had been made, he said "obviously, the Senate remains an option."

Does anyone know whether the US. Senate is a normal recourse, or if that's specific to Minnesota? I'd hate to think that my state gave up its election process to an obviously partisan body outside the state. Sure, the U.S. Supreme Court might eventually become involved, but (at least in theory) they're supposed to be non-partisan. Okay, okay, that's a little naive.

My main question is about Franken, or even Coleman, being able to bring the vote to the U.S. Senate.

" Rachel Maddow interviews Leo Gerard, the President of the United Steelworkers Union and asks if the auto industry is getting tougher treatment than the financial industry did when it was their turn for a bailout. " .............. He makes some great points on how "we've treated the people who take a shower after work much different than we've treated the people who shower before they go to work".

http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/rachel-maddow-tale-two-bailouts

EdVB -
One never knows, the senate has been fooled with on a couple of times. The stuff could be buried in the last rule change on how they're picked.
That was 100 years ago.

Ha ! Hulabaloo - went off on the use of words today . In particular one of my favorite phrases, "Clean Coal "

" Controlling the terms of a debate is fundamental to controlling the debate itself. "

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2008/12/on-not-using-corporate-created.html

Chicago, Mayor Daley's brother (mind just whent blank) will, get an important role----transportation??? if not any post,,he will still play some major role----these are the kind of guy's that needs watching----the invisible ones.

Miles O'Brien To Leave CNN. Network Shutters Science, Space and Tech Unit

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/cnn/miles_obrien_to_leave_cnn_network_shutters_science_space_and_tech_unit_102312.asp

Hah! Clean coal indeed. What the hell is that anyway? You might reduce sulphur and nitrogen emissions, but coal really ain't much more than CO2 oncst it's burned as Iunderstand it - and you can't take the carbon out of coal to make it burn and make anything other than greenhouse gasses. I bet you have a position on that, Bob, and I'd love to know more - and your sources are better than mine.

TV Newser -

"The Rachel Maddow Show" out-rated "Larry King Live" among A25-54 viewers (672,000 vs. 565,000) for the second month in a row. "Hardball with Chris Matthews" at 7 and "Countdown with Keith Olbermann" at 8 also beat their CNN competitors, Lou Dobbs and Campbell Brown.

CNN needs a new lineup.

"Ping..we miss you and where is Fry Daddy?"
Katherine Graham Cracker

Yes Katherine, I've been thinking the same thing.
(plus you haven't been here as much either).
Whatsup?

Pogo -
I hear , "Clean Coal" ......... I think of the town in "Blazing Saddles".
There's one "Clean Coal" plant in Fla. and it doesn't work. That is to say they don't bury the CO2. So there are in fact zero "Clean Coal" plants.
That Nova about this stuff, had a number that got me personally, because I've been to the Powder River Basin. I was there when this coal pile was first being developed to the scale we have today.
The coal trains leaving the Powder River Basin everyday are 35 miles long now. And that means there are 35 miles of empties rolling in. That's a 70 mile coal train moving all day, everyday.

That Nova was callled HEAT. The section on coal was really good.

C-Bob,

Thanks for the feedback on the Minnesota issue.

As for Rachel and the MSNBC boys besting CNN, isn't that kind of like Nader beating out Bob Barr in the '08 Presidential election. (I don't really know if Nader beat Barr, but that also is my point.)

I guess it was two years ago that MSNBC was boasting that they had the biggest ratings increase among cable news networks. I'm sure it was a true statement, but it was also a function of starting from a lower number of viewers.

Don't get me wrong, I watch (that knucklehead) Chris Matthews every night that I'm home. I'm just saying beating out CNN in those time slots is a small first step.

LEEZZY PLAYS PIANO FOR LIZZIE: Sec of State Condi Rice performs Monday night for Queen Elizabeth II at Buckingham Palace.

http://www.eurweb.com/story/eur49074.cfm

I went looking last year for the total amount of coal that man has dug, and burned since the dawn of the Industrial Revolution. I never got a number. The yearly production for 2006 was the latest number I could find.
2006 -
6,771 million short tons
1980 -
4,131 million short tons
http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/aer/txt/ptb1115.html

A short ton is 2,000 lbs.
That's :
2000 X 1,000,000 = 2,000,000,000
2,000,000,000 X 6,771 = 13,542,000,000,000 lbs.

EdVB...
I was wondering if you're a NYGiants fan and what you thought of the situation with Plaxico Burress..... personally.... I think he's a real knucklehead....

and I've gotten over the Patriots loss to them in the last Super Bowl....
Peyton has never done a thing for me..... but I do have a fond spot for Eli....
ssshhhhhh...... don't tell any other Patriots fan I said that.... I'd be lynched for sure!

and I've noticed that Flatus seems to be missing in action lately..... I hope everything is alright with him.....

Bob, thanks. That's kinda what I thought. I've heard the talk about carbon sequestration and clean coal (if you live anywhere near major coal mining, you know pretty well that "clean" is relative at best) and once I get my eyes rolled back to the front of my head, I say, yeah, where you gonna bury that CO2 and how? Seems like a kind of major gap in the process to me, but then again I'm a lawyer not an energy engineer, or whatever the folks who devise these systems are called.

"Don't get me wrong, I watch (that knucklehead) Chris Matthews every night that I'm home."

I do too, Ed -- but just the other night I realized that what I dislike most is his absolute delight when some public figure can be maligned. It's almost a sickness with him.

Man gets 45 years in prison in Pa. collarbomb case

By DAN NEPHIN
ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER

ERIE, Pa. -- A man who took part in a bizarre bank robbery plot that turned deadly when a bomb affixed to the neck of a pizza deliveryman exploded was sentenced to 45 years in federal prison Wednesday.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1110ap_bank_robbery_explosion.html

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/rove-likes-obama-so-far.html#comment-178931

I think it's her nickname. I've never understood why she's a Republican. Maybe she'll write a book.

This morning, as we noted, the Washington Post reported that the prosecutor Nora Dannehy has met with defense lawyers and issued subpoenas, through a grand jury, in her investigation into criminal wrongdoing in connection with the US Attorney firings.

And it looks like Alberto Gonzales, the former Attorney General on whose watch the firings occurred, is among the people she's contacted.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/12/gonzo_contacted_by_prosecutor.php

CBob...
I don't care which cable station is ahead or behind.....

but CNN getting rid of Miles O'Brien and it's science and technology department has me shaking my head.....

I guess one can never underestimate a cable news channel's capacity for stupidity!

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) — Still popular in Florida, former Gov. Jeb Bush said Wednesday that he's interested in the seat Sen. Mel Martinez is giving up, and the field of possible candidates could quickly narrow to make way for the president's younger brother.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g1g_1QTpZ5s4yTVGnK_iHsVxZK_wD94RFCF01

Well, gotta head out to LP's first middle school basketball game. Should be fun to watch - if he plays. Everyone have a good evening and think good thoughts.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/rove-likes-obama-so-far.html#comment-178892

Because of all the brilliant musicals numbers, A Star Is Born ran really long. In a time period when you went to a "double feature", the length was a major problem for the theater chains.

The biggest cuts were made in the elopement scenes in Nevada (this is the area with the most stills), the Born in a Trunk number, and another almost desperate number where she is trying to entertain him with the number she is doing at the studio.

Thank goodness The Born In A trunk number was completely restored. It is a masterpiece. My son an I have this thing about musicals and we were on a cross country trip by bus when the driver announced "Pocatello" ... couldn't help it - one of those shared brain events, we both sang, "I was born in a trunk at the Princess Theater in Pocatello, Idaho"

Poobah, LOL.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/rove-likes-obama-so-far.html#comment-178939

Gall is one thing never in short supply.

RR,

I'm a Cleveland Browns fan, but I follow the Giants because of friends and family and because they're sort of a New York team. (At least, their name says they are.)

I guess by calling Chris Matthews a knucklehead a few minutes ago, I'm obligated to find a stronger term for Mr. Burress. The guy is a talented football player, but Pittsburgh was glad to see him leave. It looks like the Giants now feel the same way.

What he did was stupid, but I don't favor jail time for him. I'd opt for some meaningful community service. I'm not sure what that could be, but there must be some good that could come from this. The Giants have been doing well without him, so his demise may be like the Shockey injury last year. Addition by subtraction.

Time to head out for some basketball. Have a good night all.

Craig....
ROTFLMAO!!!

hope you and Helen are having a good time.....

An interesting read.

"The number of important companies which have become penny stocks and the play things of day traders is remarkable, "

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/Big-Company-Stocks-Under-1/story.aspx?guid=%7B2B835C5D%2D35FD%2D4667%2DA021%2DFC446B0BD4B5%7D

Jack

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/rove-likes-obama-so-far.html#comment-178920

CBob, I don't know if you saw Boston Legal this week, but one of the cases was suing the networks for discrimination and failing to serve the public because there is no programming for people over 50.

Some funny lines, but one of the best was a spiel about having the most discretionary income, watching the most hours, and still having brains. It included a rant on the dumbing down of TV with sexy body mindless sitcoms, reality shows, dimwitted game shows, and screaming moderators ... the rant concluded with a shouted, "I WANT SOMETHING TO WATCH".

It was so funny and unfortunately true. CNN giving up on science is just more of the same.

a fun and informative read
An economic history of the US

It begins like this:

"The year 1776 means one thing and one thing only to Americans: The birth of our nation. But when Adam Smith published his “Wealth of Nations” in 1776 he launched another revolution, an Economic Revolution, by codifying the best practices he found during extensive travels throughout Europe during the 18th century, the Age of Enlightenment. (”The Age of Enlightenment. What about Witches?” demanded the Queen. The White Rabbit had that worried look on his face as he nervously chose his words. “Almost all the Witches had been executed by that time, except in Poland and ah Switzerland. This story is about the world model that came after the model with witches in it.”)"

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2008/12/capital-the-thrust-of-history/

Jack

CHICAGO/WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President-elect Barack Obama is not planning to implement a windfall profit tax on oil companies because prices have dropped below $80 a barrel, an aide said on Tuesday.

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE4B206W20081203

Craig,

Your post, http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/rove-likes-obama-so-far.html#comment-178939

offers pleasant thoughts as to why the South will not rise again...

Georgia, home to a proud CSA tradition, just reelected a man who used academic deferments and a trick knee to avoid serving his country in battle. Chambliss is proof that all chicken hawks are chicken shit and he is head of the class.

Then throw in Westmoreland, the congressman who demands the 10 Commandments be posted in every public building and he can't even name 2?!? I don't go to church but I still remember that the first is "I am the Lord, your God who brought you out Egypt, out of the house of slavery"

I know you think Obama showed a bit of cowardice not campaigning for Martin in Georgia but it's better to have some room for growth in 2010 since things will have turned around enough to make further gains in both houses then...

As for your thoughts on Yankee greed, just consider it Yankee ingenuity that was able to harness the blood, sweat and riches of an entire people without needing a whip, a chain or a machete to keep its workforce in line...lol

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/rove-likes-obama-so-far.html#comment-178945

RR, cannot even begin to describe what a privilege and pleasure it is to write a book with this amazing woman. so much work, but we are having a blast. not only did she start covering presidents since JFK, she was a reporter in this town since the 40's. she is telling me first-hand stories about eleanor roosevelt, for god's sake (when faced with ridiculous criticism about her clothing she told helen, "I feel like i'm dressing the washington monument"). it just doesn't get any better than that.

Craig,

Has Helen Thomas done any project where she has written a book about her exploits?

Can you do some type of podcast with her so she can talk about the vast experiences she's had?

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/rove-likes-obama-so-far.html#comment-178951

he's backing away from everything liberals wanted. what fools they were to to blindly buy the hype and think otherwise, and not push him for more specifics. which is why i'm starting to really like him

back to work

"Former President Bill Clinton says he is open to the possibility of a role in the Obama administration but said he otherwise plans to be deferential to both the president and Clinton's wife, the soon-to-be secretary of state.

BILL CLINTON: I don't think we can turn it around in less than a year, because too much wealth has already disappeared. The stock market might come back in less than a year but the shrinkage. … It’s already occurred in investment wealth is going to play itself out in the real economy. I don't think it will take longer than three years. So I would say if they make really, really good decisions, which I think they will, probably somewhere between 15 months and two years we will back up again."
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1208/16156.html

Bear -- where have you been!!!!

Jack

That is a wonderful article. I've bookmarked it for closer reading as I just skimmed through. It is one of the first on economics that I have seen that stated Adam Smith's view of labor correctly

"None the less the concentration of wealth and exploitation of workers (think some developing countries) are real problems in Capitalism. Adam Smith saw those problems first but his solution of relying on the “moral sentiments” is toothless"

He did stress that morality as being the only thing that actually allows capitalism to work courtesy of his relationship with his friend and advisor, David Hume. Smith also was one of if not the first to suggest the graduated income tax.

The article also mentioned the thesis, antithesis, synthesis cycle that is at the heart of changes in the human condition.

Thank you for the link

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/rove-likes-obama-so-far.html#comment-178956

Bush is leaving behind a huge stack of lemons. I think Obama will make as much lemonade as he can, but there isn't much squeeze left in this economy.

Craig....
I am truly happy for you.....

Bear.... uh, oh..... hope you didn't see what I wrote about Eli....

gotta go..... have a book club meeting tonight....

everyone take care!

Ping is Ponging in..... or trying... From Chicago

Good points today Craig !!
Which Barack is showing up? The one on the RIGHT track.

Hope all are doing well

Since I am in Chicago - I was hoping to bump into Pres elect Barack - tell him how happy I am with his choices to this point - nice centric movement.

Also give him some advise as a dad of two daughters - we have lots in common

I went to google to look up things that could be made with lemons and ran across the lemon detox diet. I sounded way more interesting than cookies or pie.

While looking at the web site I ran across this piece of advise that maybe Obama should consider.

"Prior to starting the lemon detox diet, it is recommended that you start with the colon cleanse for the first couple of days. This will help clear the colon of some of the toxic fecal matter before it is burdened with the extra toxins coming in from the detox diet"
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/406500/lemon_detox_diet_and_colon_cleanse.html

I sure there are a number of pieces of excrement that will need to be removed before progress can be made.

With that I think I will get back to looking for the perfect lemon pie.

Jack

Bush

Yep, just another damnned Yankee.

"spit"
Carpetbagger.

Jack

We have National Health now .... Just not formal

Better include a Personal investment in good health as our fat @$$ behavior of super size is a big problem and huge addition to the costs.

And Smoking...... You take care of yourself - you get Healthcare - if not then NO... !!

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/rove-likes-obama-so-far.html#comment-178965

Bush is no son of the South. He is a freaking Massachusetts/Maine carpetbagger. One of yours, my friend. Fake accents and pork rinds don't fool me.

Craig - You gonna make it to Right wing Obamlando any this holiday season?
I'll buy you some holiday Egg nog to go with the grits, and susage gravey breakfast

"Fake accents and pork rinds don't fool me."

LOL Craig. I was hoping you were more gullible than that. I'll never try to put one over on you. :)

A cool graphic on the age of the earth.

http://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/geotime/time.html

" son of the SOUTH!"

I wonder what you would do if you didn't have someone or something or some place to hate. You remind me of the poor white trash who need to look down on someone, so they sneer at blacks...

What the hell are pork rinds?

gribenes for goys

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/rove-likes-obama-so-far.html#comment-178980

Jack, You're right, that is a cool graphic.

Hi Chloe

Been busy with end of the year stuff but still lurking around.
Ping was here but where is Fry Daddy and I still wonder about MaggieSD --I enjoyed her posts.

I think Maggie and Marcia and others are long gone Katherine. (It would be nice if I were wrong.) Not sure about Fry. I enjoyed their posts too, and many others.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/rove-likes-obama-so-far.html#comment-178987

Oh...my dumb. Thanks, Jamie...lol

Lightfoot v. Bowen, California lawsuit, Obama not eligible, Dr. Orly Taitz, Petition for Extraordinary Writ for Mandamus for Stay, Gail Lightfoot, Vice Presidential candidate, Ron Paul, co-Plaintiffs, Electors, Constitution Party, December 3, 2008

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2008/12/03/lightfoot-v-bowen-california-lawsuit-obama-not-eligible-dr-orly-taitz-petition-for-extraordinary-writ-for-mandamus-for-stay-gail-lightfoot-vice-presidential-candidate-ron-paul-co-plaintiffs/

http://goexcelglobal.com/share/c146.pdf

New York dropout rate 5.6%
Tennessee dropout rate, 3.3%

http://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d07/tables/dt07_103.asp

lowest expenditure per student, goes to Utah, $5,216
Utah, btw gets a good bang for the buck. Their schools place around average in scholastic achievement.
There are several states lower then Tennessee.

http://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d07/tables/dt07_174.asp

New York spends twice what Tenn does on education but look at the drop rates.

I'm not going to bother with the infant mortality numbers they , doubtless, were pulled out of the same hole.

Jack

"What the hell are pork rinds?"

Oh -- I should say that my recipe for cheese grit & sausage casserole is going gangbusters among some publishing circles in NYC....there are SOME there with excellent "taste." :)

BBC America News

http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/329/index.jsp

just had a fascinating story about the Isle of Egg. It is too far off the coast of Scotland to connect to the national power grid so until recently all power was by generator. They now have a modern combination of solar and wind power that services the whole of the island.

The crux of the story is that more and more remote communities and even medium size towns have no need of a national top down power grid. It is cheaper, more efficient, and more dependable to simply have a contained local source.

"What the hell are pork rinds?"

Ah, chicharones

http://www.chicharones.com/

5th Obamagate case reaches Supreme Court

Cases from 15 more states are moving towards the Supreme Court.

http://drorly.blogspot.com/2008/12/5th-obamagate-case-reaches-supreme.html

Good evening all!
Gordo, Don't know if you saw this , so here it is-http://www.thebulletin.us/site/news.cfm?newsid=20210273
"Obama Fomenting A Constitutional Crisis: Constitutional Lawyer Discusses Ramifications Of Controversy"

Seem to be reading about it more and more as you forewarned.

C-Bob -- The family in Aspen that was asphyxiated....they were there because they won a contest...

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=6376209&page=1

sea----------------

Saw it.

Many of the stories are incorrect:

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2008/12/03/kansas-city-star-just-like-msnbc-gets-the-donofrio-scotus-story-wrong-very-wrong

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2008/12/03/world-net-daily-letter-campaign-mistates-core-issue-in-donofrio-scotus-case/

Hey Gordo........got any good jesus stuff?

Here's the problem with that Bulletin source --

"Let's assume he wasn't born in the U.S.," Mr. Vieira told The Bulletin"

Usually, when someone says "let's assume" in trying to prove a point -- you gotta problem.

Print, TV ads demand citizenship proof from Obama
Concerned Americans look to media to compel president-elect to release documents

http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=82523
======================
Donofrio does not agree with the "birth location" argument that most are using. For Donofrio, it's all about dual (American and British) citizenship at birth - where does not matter.

More on Chicharrones.

"Aside from the taco’s de canasta there are also just straight up tacos, these being Tacos Casero. As can be seen below these are much crispier chunks of pork skin. The small chunks of fat hanging on are just another layer in this awesome as f*ck flavor profile."

http://groceryeats.com/2008/04/12/chicharrones/

Jack

I'm not defending it and I don't know anything about that paper. Just saw the article and noted that it was in a newspaper as opposed to noquarter.

I should probably issue an abject apology for any resulting addictions. Can't get out to play miniature golf? Go here:

http://www.ibogleif.dk/index/index3.html

Chicharones with Tomatoes

1 1/2 pounds tomatoes; broiled *
2 fresh chiles seranos; broiled
3 garlic cloves; peeled, chunked
1 tablespoon lard
1 vidalia onions; slice thin
1/4 pound chicharones; break in 1 inch pieces *
1 tsp oregano
1 tsp cumin, whole
1/4 tsp chipotle pepper, ground
* If you can't find flavorful fresh tomatoes, use a one pound can of Italian plum tomatoes and a handful of sundried tomatoes instead.

*Chicharones or chicharron are fried pig skins, also called cracklings. They come in fat and thin pieces. This recipe uses a mix of fat and thin, which is what you generally find in packages in the US.

Add tomatoes, fresh chiles and garlic to a blender. (If using fresh tomatoes, also add 2/3 cup of water, if using canned tomatoes use all of the liquid in the can.) Blend until smooth.

Heat lard in a frying pan, fry onions over high heat for a few minutes. The onions should be wilted but not browned. Add tomato sauce and spices. Cook over high heat a few minutes, stirring, so that the sauce thickens. Add chicharones and stir.

The chicharones need to cook until they are very soft. Depending on how hard the chicharones are, it may take from 5 to 15 minutes. The sauce should cover the chicharones, add more liquid (dry vermouth, wine or beer) if necessary and stir occasionally.

Serve in tacos, over noodles or rice. Serves two

source, of course...

Jack- The spicing in that sounds tasty. Do you think it would work with another cut of pork?

God, don't you ever let up? What a miserable life you must have. You seem to just sit and wait like a spider for something to attack.

What are pork rinds??? Sounds like a snack food elitist!

Different night...different outrage.

different night, same pig.........

"Different night...different outrage."

ROFL, Corey --exactly right....

osh

It should work with any pork.

Cory

How's work?

Jack

Jack-Cool, thanks , think I'll make that this weekend. , I try to make dinner a bit more fun on weekends and Mexican is so festive.. Think I'll try it with boneless country ribs- if they're on sale!

Corey , meant to ask you. Do you build cars for work?

As I said- just like a spider.....

With that I would put the pork in the skillet first and brown it a bit and render some of the fat out of it Drain ad the onions , cook , add the tomato mix. You could also add a bell pepper sliced to cook with the onion. use more meat as the chicharrones are dried and absorb water.

Jack

Oooh, definately making it this weekend!! Thanks Jack

OSH

I stole that recipe while looking for Chicharones info.
I just clicked on the home page, I think they may be your neighbors or you may know them.

http://world.std.com/~kcl/index.html

Jack- Have you ever ground up a vanilla bean? Would try it myself but when I went to buy one today , beans were 16.49 for one here on the island. I'm sending to SF Herbs for them. Am working on a hot cocoa mix and have the base down (just got to grind the chocolate up a bit more) but still need to add vanilla. Thought I would try grinding beans and then straining them.

Jack- small world huh? They sure look like islanders!

I've never messed with the beans, For what little baking I do I use the extract.

Jack

"... these people spouting this crap about where Obama was born are pretty much the same crowd that claims the Clintons had Vince Foster murdered."

That crowd was late to the Constitutional eligibility fight.

Most of the early work on this was done by PUMAs. The Religious Right, "Patriot" and "Vince Foster was murdered by the Clintons" types are now working with PUMAs to protect the Constitution.

Repubs still fear the racist label -- so say and do nothing.

Here is the spice store I use, a local family run business. All their spices that I have used are fresh and very reasonablely priced.

http://www.plantersseed.com/Spices11.htm#Vanilla%20Beans

Work is the same. 3 nights at work and I've worked in 3 different departments. Some departments are at the end of their run. The department I worked in last night was supposed to stop running completely on Dec. 1st. Then they said it would only run on 1st shift this week. However, it's been running on 1st and 3rd shift all week long. And now they will be working on Saturday. This line makes a cargo system for some Buick crossover vehicle. The end of production for almost every line never goes as planned. Most times I come to work not knowing what I'll be doing that night. Other times, they tell you one thing one night and then the next night, they tell you something completely different.

Buyers flock to condo auction, ready to snap up bargains

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/Buyers-flock-condo-auction-ready/story.aspx?guid=%7BCA836705%2D93E1%2D4E3E%2DA973%2D6B0690CAA4B4%7D&dist=hplatest

Sounds like it would keep you from getting bored, but it also sounds like you're at the bottom, so any work is good work , eh?

Jack

Some nights are better than others, Jack.

Better to be a "crackpot" than a traitor.

Jamie -
Thanks for the Egg Island story.

Craig -
Agreed on Obama not being pinned down. But it's also smart not to pursue oil company taxes when oil goes to $49.00 a barrel. It's the gas taxes at the other end, that's where the rubber will meet the road. And Obama has to sell it, he could get some help with this, but in the end he has to do it.

Every country that's bit the bullet on this has come out ahead.

"I understand you spend half your time obsessing over me,"

Much like I obsess over road kill that's difficult to avoid.

Book mark and play around on this site if you plan on having an intellegent discussion on public education.

http://nces.ed.gov/programs/stateprofiles/

http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/states/

I was looking at Utah and New York. New York spends 3 times the money for the same result as Utah assessment wise. Utah and DC make the more money= better results questionable.
One other difference with Utah and New York. Utah has fewer students who qualify for the free lunch program. Poverty is always a factor in education.

Jack

"An associate lawyer in a Chicago-based firm whose partner served on a finance committee for then-Sen. Barack Obama has advocated for the elimination of the U.S. Constitution's requirement that a president be a "natural-born" citizen, calling the requirement "stupid" and asserting it discriminates, is outdated and undemocratic.

The paper was written in 2006 by Sarah Herlihy, just two years after Obama had won a landslide election in Illinois to the U.S. Senate. Herlihy is listed as an associate at the Chicago firm of Kirkland & Ellis. A partner in the same firm, Bruce I. Ettelson, cites his membership on the finance committees for both Obama and Sen. Richard Durbin on the corporate website."

... So it sure looks like Obama's people have looked into the matter of 'natural born' as far back as early 2006."

http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=82680

Cool and Ariana are 2 words that really don't belong next to each other.

Jack

Girl from iconic Great Depression photo: 'We were ashamed'

She says she'll never forget the lessons of her hard-working mother, who died at the age of 80 in 1983. Her gravestone says: "Migrant Mother: A Legend of the strength of American motherhood."

http://us.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/12/02/dustbowl.photo/index.html

Cbob

The Gas tax is where it is at. Now is the best time to do a gas tax increase .25 to start and a nickle every 6 months. Do this before everybody gets out of the conservation mood. The way gas is going down around here it had better be damn fast..
Right now we remember the pain of $4 gas in 6 months, not so much. the tax should all be directed at investing in alternative energy and helping poor people adjust. A program to insulate all the old junk houses in my neighborhood. You should not pay more for utilities than you do in n rent. Help them buy fuel efficient cars. When gas raises all they can afford is the old gas guzzling clunkers.

Jack

"Rove....just trying to provoke a fight among liberals."

Oh yeah. Of anyone in the whole, wide world this is the LAST guy anyone should trust.

tt

On the scale of cool
in decending order

Chris matthews
Bill O
Geraldo
Rosie O'Donald
Joe the Plumber
Don the plumber( don is a real plumber but a major pain in the ass)

A number of other people that wouldn't interest you
.
Then reggie , across the street( he has a great story about the corn on his foot)

Then Arianna , maybe

Then most the world, if anybody is left.

Jack

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/rove-likes-obama-so-far.html#comment-179070

LOL
Yep

When I'm laughing at your version of cool, maybe you need to reassess the whole concept. Ya think?

Jack

Jack -
Agreed every penny on the gas tax raises a billion dollars.
If he sells it was a patriotic duty it'll work.

The melamine in powdered milk story goes on.

Saudi Arabia finds chemical in milk from China

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia -- The Saudi government has found excessive amounts of the industrial chemical melamine in powdered milk imported from China and lower concentrations in chocolate wafer cream made in Malaysia.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/health/1500ap_ml_saudi_tainted_milk.html

Grateful Dead - Ripple

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVdTQ3OPtGY

Cbob

On the melamine, a couple of days ago I read , they are finding it in trace amounts in baby food that has never been to China. Seems it is leaching out of the plastic jars. That iws why I buy the cheap whiskey in glass and not plastic. It tastes different IMO.

Jack

A walk on the Web is good for the brain
Online searches are stimulating, research finds

By HEIDI BENSON
SAN FRANCISCO CHRONICLE

Can Googling delay the onset of dementia?

A UCLA study, part of growing research into the effects of technology on the brain, shows that searching the Internet may keep older brains agile -- it's like taking your brain for a walk.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/health/390212_brain02.html

--------------
Cool ?

these "digital immigrants,"

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/rove-likes-obama-so-far.html#comment-179078

Thanks for that reassurance...I was afraid it was making me stoopid --

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200807/google

I like this term -
"digital immigrants,"
It makes it seem like the computer I used to have could only run on kerosene and understand Polish.

"these "digital immigrants,""

Cbob

The great thing about the net is you never know how old, educated, wealthy any one you meet on line is. And when I used to hang out on use net we had people from all over the world. So I got to learn little things like a snickers bar is not the same here as in England.
But also as you argue back and forth you see a vast variety of views.

And, boy howdy, toto are we ever not in Kansas anymore.

Jack

What a long strange trip it's been

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPNgjA4i6gM

Ivy Green -
The Atlantic is a little off the mark on that one.

Little Feat Dixie Chicken

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FekVR_SC5M

Tommy Bolin - Post Toastee

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2lJfpx0F0s

Thanks, Bob. I AM exhibiting some of those short-attention span symptoms...

I'll be coming to the Loveland area for the holidays...is there anything interesting I should do while there? - been to the bronze park, it's amazing...

Thanks...heading to the barn now...

Cbob

I don't think the computer is doing any thing to my brain except to exercise it. . What it has done is limit my book reading because I spend too much time on this machine. I enjoy it but it doesn't stop me from enjoying a book either. it just competes for the time.

Speaking of time it is late and the wife will call me early. She is oe of those bubbly morning people. She is even more bubbly when she calls me from on the road.
See y'uns tomorrow

Tommy Bolin / Zephyr - Going Back To Colorado

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_oPoua-tv8

Ivy Green -
Ya .... Go the Estes Park, and have drinks in Nagel's World Famous Wheel bar.

Ok
I'll take a minute to listen to the music

My father wasn't much for reading or television but he loved his music. I remember when I was a child he would go out to the car and listen to the radio, because it would bring in the Grand old Opry.
He would love youtube.

Jack

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/rove-likes-obama-so-far.html#comment-179090

C-Bob -- Sounds like a winner!

The James Gang - The Bomber

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Beurhv5jR90

Ivy -
East entrance to the Rocky Mountain Park, you can't go wrong on a day trip.

Small Faces, Itchycoo Park

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJzcF0v1eOE

K Ç and The $unshine ßand - Get Down Tonight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE26BGdzRfw

Tom Jones - Help Yourself

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSBqtDQLR30

Ha Obama apointed a liberal to any post that will have real power?

Looks like the DLC rules.

Once the brains wrap around that one, I can see a few heads exploding.

Jack

Theme music for today -

The Fortunes - You've Got Your Troubles, I've Got Mine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsK5Qs9Hoss