Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

Ten days until Christmas....

Patsi
Yes,I'm in the enjoyment stage now as I have everything gift wrapped or sent.....

Debt - Nothing that a good round of inflation will not help solve !!

What a thought....

Good Morning... Coal in the stocking

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/845d07a8-ca60-11dd-93e5-000077b07658.html?nclick_check=1

"Japanese business confidence dives"

"Sentiment among Japanese manufacturers has suffered its sharpest fall in more than three decades, according to the Bank of Japan much-watched Tankan quarterly survey."

those were the days. hard to believe now that we were worrying about how to spend a budget surplus and how big it was.
from a sep 2000 article:
"In the US Presidential race, much of George W. Bush and Al Gore's electoral sparring has centered around how best to use the federal budget surplus. Unfortunately, there is no clear consensus on how large this surplus is.
The Democrats have recently estimated the total on-budget surplus (that is, net of the current surpluses generated by Social Security) at $1.879 trillion for the 2001-10 period, relying on the economic assumptions of the Office of Management and Budget (OMB), an agency within the Executive branch. The Republicans, on the other hand, have relied on the estimate of the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) of an on-budget surplus of $3.387 trillion over the same period. Of course, each agency has been accused of partisan bias."

http://everything2.com/node/746482

http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/1212/p07s01-wome.html

"Saudi women speak publicly about divorce"

"They don't ask the woman if she wants to be divorced," Maha said of the courts. "It was a very bad day for me. I didn't expect that. I knew there were problems but, I thought, we can solve it, especially as we were living together and we understood each other."

those were the days my friend
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNVit7cesj8

relying on the economic assumptions - and estimates is bad math...... but good entertainment of the past !

Off to work to keep my budget in the black

these are the good old days.....just not exactly financially sound ones......you know, like they were during pres. clinton's run a few years back...

my budget is red like santa's costume and Rudolph's nose........wish i had some bootstraps to pull my feet off the floor with..................I'd be standing beside myself.......

let's see now, based on those 2000 estimates, we've blown anywhere from a quarter to half trillion of that surplus a year since the supremes gave us president shrub. and that's not counting the negative hole we've dug.

patd......we better send out for larger shovels......and maybe some back-hoes........this aint gonna be easy......

"wish i had some bootstraps..."

sturge, i think you ate them yesterday rather than trying my jellyfish casserole.

they were quite satisfying.......after sauteeing them over a medium flame I added the marinara sauce (ketchup) with a mustard dip on the side............

low flame, medium flame.....it doesnt matter with bootstraps........lol

heck sturge, country fried in bacon grease, they taste just like chicken. no fancy sauce necessary.

frank rich on imus

i guess if you smash up and fry the pork rinds it'd be sorta like bacon.........I aint cooking my only football......

country fried in bacon grease, he'll taste like chicken too.

Good morning all!

"Chicago Tribune Stopped Working With Prosecutors, Forced Arrest of Ill. Gov. Too Early"
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/12/15/chicago-tribune-stopped-working-prosecutors-forced-arrest-ill-go

Sturge- Is Wilmington a fairly safe town? My 18 year old daughter is there, brake line went on car while traveling home.

from oldsea's link:

"To me, this shows how our media all too often would rather serve their own interests than serve the interests of good governing and those of the people."

duh

Old sea.......I dont know much about wilmington.....been thru it a zillion times elsewhere bound, but I imagine it's like most cities......very safe in most places and other places maybe not so much......

" they taste just like chicken"

Ha! Rattlesnake with Jellyfish stuffing....

chickens when I cook 'em always taste like bootstraps.

Hey Sturge, thanks , thats kind of what I figured. Hope she is in one of those safe places. She is just a dumb little island girl, no st. smarts whatsoever, worst part is that she doesn't know how little she knows.

"Chicago Tribune Stopped Working With Prosecutors, Forced Arrest of Ill. Gov. Too Early"

Thanks for that link -- it does seem to me that they stopped just short of catching a real sale. But of course, I guess that could come on unreleased tapes.

big prayer-type monologue for safe places.........

They released the story to keep Jessie Jr. from going down.

Sturge- You are such good medicine, you always make me laugh! Thank you.

Homeland Security, original American style.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/Homeland-Security.gif

OSH _- I think the most freaked out I ever got was when my daughter was 18 and driving back from college with a girlfriend. They took a wrong turn and ended up in Louisville -- not the right town....stopped and called me from a gas station....late at night -- didn't know what to do, but said that they were getting directions. My daughter was not used to being the driver on long hails...

No cell phone back then...I was frantic, wanted to call the Louisville police...etc. They made it home -- and Tracy said that just after she talked to me, Waylon Jennings' tour bus pulled in -- on the way back to Nashville. So they just followed him home...

Patsi- neat story! My Emmy has been a real piss pot of late , so it's frustrating on a number of levels. Told her to get in a bus last night and she refused. Just don't want her riding in a car that lost its brake lines on 95 with a couple of hooligans behind the wheel.

Interesting piece about the Lt. Gov in Illinois....that Chicago machine is one eff-ed up deal....

http://thehill.com/campaign-2008/some-dems-wary-of-blagojevich-successor-2008-12-12.html

solar.........rsturgeonxix at yahoo

And more on Blagojovich...this guy appears to have been a seriously loose cannon for a long time.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/15/us/politics/15blagojevich.html?hp

The Chicago Rules
“There’s a view of politics that says you go into this for sacrifice and public service, and then there’s a view of politics that says this is a business, and you’re wheeling and dealing, and ‘What’s in it for me? ....”

Obama said that all he could do was “shake my head” after reading the Blago transcripts. One can only imagine his incredulity at the circus now unfolding around the case and what it might mean for him. Every politician arises in a context, which shapes him and affects his future in ways he can only barely comprehend. There are no shining cities (or states) on a hill in local American politics. Some are nastier, sleazier, and uglier than others, but none are what you’d properly call pretty. Winning the presidency promises, among other things, an escape from all of that. But few presidents in recent memory have been able to avoid a Michael Corleone moment: “Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in.” This is the first such moment for Obama. For his sake, and, Heaven help us, for ours too, let’s hope it’s his last."
http://nymag.com/news/politics/powergrid/52922/

Craig,

The irony of the deficits that Bush has run are the fact that the spending can go on forever and it will now take massive cuts in spending to get things back in order...this was the dream of the Reagan administration.

Unfortunately, the departments with the largest growth in budgetary allocations these last 8 years are defense related. We have done a poor job "securing" the homeland and that challenge will grow harder as defense spending is halved...

mornin' y'all.

I understand the Trib said Nuh unh to the prosecutors. They get my shout out for the morning. They held off on runningthe story for at least 6 weeks - tough tootoos if the crime didn't materialoze in that time. Besides if Newsbusters think's it's a bad thing it has to be a good thing.

Anyone heard from Renee ove rthe weekend - lots of folks up that way without power.

shoebush incident:

"It is the farewell kiss, you dog!" he shouted, and threw the shoes before being wrestled to the ground by security guards and frogmarched out.

Bush lowered his head and the first shoe hit the American and Iraqi flags behind the two leaders. The second was off target.

flatus, when you come around, I caught your camera comments. I loved the old Rolleis. A good friend had one when I was just getting into photography (strictly amateur), and I wished I had one, but couldn't afford it back then. I built a darkroom in the spare bedroom and all that jazz My first camera was a hand me down from Dad - an Argus C-3. I moved to an SLR after a year or so - a Yashica if memory serves, then to one of my faves - a Canon EF - that got stolen from me while I slept on a train in Italy - really pissed me off. The Nikon was a replacement for that camera - and a step up IMHO. Now I'm digital only - have saved a ton in developing consts for photos to throw away. And havign become a snap shooter and chronicler of LP's sporting events, it works much better for me.

oldsea, patsi, thanks for the links....just another bunch of pirates to keep track of huh? here's some more on lt gov quinn.

"The next governor of Illinois may be a consumer advocate once described as an amalgam of Socialist leader Eugene Debs, labor organizer Mother Jones and government gadfly Ralph Nader."

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aMxIWZomA7PM&refer=us

"a region-wide summit that excludes the United States."
this plus the russian navy visiting cuba.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601086&sid=a0a8IQrfwSFU&refer=latin_america

good article, Anon P..................

sturge, anon p, does this mean good citizens shouldn't buy toyotas? but what if they're made in usa and they have more american-made parts in 'em than the so-called american cars?

patd.....I really dont know.....Anon might have an idea or two......I'd be loath to try and state what "americans should do" because I'm so ignorant about the whole thing.......I buy old cars of whatever type turns up......

is there a car which is totally made in usa, including parts and the materials from which the parts are made?

let's buy that one.

american made:

http://www.antiquehelper.com/auctionimages/42326t.jpg

yup, sturg, me too. The first and last time any automaker made a dime off an auto purchase of mine was over 25 yrs. ago. Now I can't say the same for Mrs. P - but I can say it's been 15 years since an Asian automaker made anything off her, but someone in Germany did last year. She likes her cars more than I do. As for US automakers - they just haven't made anything she cared about for well over 20 years.

Today is my birthday and I was given the gift of the shoe....not since Krushchev has a shoe been so important in politics...thanks GWB. I never thought I would see a shoe in politics before I died.

Khrushchev, not Krushchev.

"is there a car which is totally made in usa, including parts and the materials from which the parts are made?"

Don't think it exists. I won't rag on Toyota, because the company employs my son-in-law and pays him well enough that my daughter has been able to stay home with my granddaughter these past three years. And after years of buying only GM cars, I bought a Rav4 in 2001 and it has not given me a second's trouble.

If I had the money, I'd probably buy a GM car right now just to make a point, though. And I've already written to the Tennessee reps and senators who I believe are trying to destroy US automotive simply to bust the unions.

Corker appears to have forgotten about Saturn in Spring Hill. I know people whose lives changed because of that plant. For years they'd scraped by doing this and that kind of labor....until Saturn opened.

patd, I'd say the summit, complete with no invitation to the US, reflects our waning influence in the region. We buy their stratocasters, liquor and drugs and try to get them to stop sending the drugs here. Our gov't may not ascribe to the hydraulic theory of economics and politics in the region - but when China is one of the new players and we're not invited to the party, we had better learn to consider that theory may have some validity.

J.B.,White “Riddle Me This”

http://rattlergator.typepad.com/rattlergator/2008/12/a-question-over-the-illinois-negotiation.html

I applaud Anon's article because I support the unions and because I detest most if not all southern republicans......so his article makes sense to me. As far as knowing what to do I ain't know dat......

and by southern republicans, I mean office-holders, not Regular Folks.........

Ree, LOL. White wouldn't piss on Obama if he were on fire. I note that he didn't bother to print or link Obama's list of acceptable candidates or show (or suggest) that Blago was negotiating with only people on that list. I submit to you that Blago's list differed from Obama's. Blagos list had one entry - anyown with enough money or position to give me what I want in return for the seat.

Corker is making money on this -- bet on it:

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2008/dec/13/chattanooga-regional-planning-necessary-prepare-vw/?volkswagen

Sturge -- the trouble in the South is that you sometimes can't tell the Democrats from the Republicans....

sturg, glad you clarified. My sister the southern non-office holding reublican (I really don't know where I went wrong) would have been offened to be on your shitlist.

Patsi's right, but you knew that. I see Evan Bayh is starting a blue dog club.

Pogo>>>>yup, yup......I figure most regular folks republicans are just deluded and have had their minds clouded by the GOP lies and half-truths......lol.....they caint hep it........

And I realize that Bayh ain't south'n and NV is not part of the south - but 5 of the 7 senators seen as likely targets of Bayh's are.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/14/evan-bayh-forming-conserv_n_150874.html

sturg - it sounds like you've met my sis. You haven't built any cabinets for hospitals latelly have you??? ;-)

Pogo.......nope.....not lately...........but call her and tell her she needs some..............

LOL - I figure she knows that.

true enough, but I know one who isn't.

sturg, a bit off topic, but do you let the panels float in doors you make? I thought that was kinda the preferred construction but saw a show this weekend where thy glued up all the joints. Just sorta curious.

well, they (not thy) you weren't on the show unless you were or are using a pseudonym there or here as it were.

"I don't think that's the issue, I think a level playing field is. All the foreign auto companies are getting assistance from their govts and due to the fact they also have national health plans they don't have the legacy costs our auto makers do."

An excellent post...an important point.

"regular folks republicans are just deluded and have had their minds clouded by the GOP lies and half-truths...."

Sure glad Democratic politicians don't lie. Thank goodness.

"yeah the race issue doesn't figure into it at all as to why so many southern whites support the GOP. The "Call me Harold" ad had nothing to do with Corker's victory. "

Why are you so combative? Why try to start an argument over something we all know?

If you really have time on your hands, try to contact some of you top shelf friends and get the entire story of Madoff's ponzi scheme....

Patsi, RFLMAO. Thanks, I needed that.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/our-national-debt-rut.html#comment-182468
"worst part is that she doesn't know how little she knows."

Sea, Ha, aren't they all at that age? Be sure to let us know how's she's doing.

I know you were kidding about the dumb little island girl, but you made me curious. What's it like there. Is it really that sheltered from the bad part of the world? Just curious what life is like there. :)

Things are changing in the South. They're just taking longer. Give them time.

That may be right about some of those voters not being duped. Maybe they're politicians are actually representing them. But that still makes the politicians the enablers.

I think we all learned a lesson yesterday. The next time you get mad at someone, don't argue with them...throw a shoe or two at them.

chloe, as everywhere - some are, some aren't and some just vote what they perceive as their best interests, whether economic or social. In the south you don't have to be in the GOP and vote for the GOP candidate if you're a racist and want to vote for someone who supports your views. Party doesn't define racist positions in the south among white voters (althought the correlation is certainly there) as much as it apparently does in some parts of the courtry (I can tell you from personal experience while living there that racism is alive and well and aligned with party in rural NH, and Boston isn't exactly a racism free zone, either). The southern GOP has a growing number of AA members - up from virtually none 40 years ago, and the southern Dem party has its fair share of bigots who haven't gone all GOP.

Pogo, Thanks....I agree with all you said. Of course, racism (and all the other ism's) has to go away one person, one family at a time. I was just thinking that politicians (along with other leaders) are the ones that have the responsibility to lead us in the right direction. And once again, if they can't lead, if they can't help set new expectations and goals, then they shouldn't be in that position. If they're not, then what are they doing?

Actually, all I was responding to is the post that said: "southern voters are not "duped" by the GOP, they know exactly what they are doing. "

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/inauguration-20-web-marketing.html#comment-182415

Bow, Saw your post about the bad weather up your way. Hope things are getting better there.

Renee, If you get any power back and peek in here, hope things are going well with you and things are getting back to normal. You and Rick, be safe.

gotta go

chloe, I assumed that was what you were responding to. That's what my "some are, some aren't" was responding to as well. I'd just rather talk with you.

I've lived in the South for the last 25 years -- but I lived in Denver the ten years prior to that. I saw just as many bigoted, uninformed voters in Denver as I do in Nashville.

And, I suspect, there are some bigots and uninformed voters in New York.

After living in rural TN for several years, I've come to believe that abortion and gun rights are far bigger issues here than race.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/our-national-debt-rut.html#comment-182531

Thanks again Pogo. :)

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/our-national-debt-rut.html#comment-182531

Patsi, Thanks for saying that! They talk about the south like it's horrid. That's what I used to hear in California, and I believed it. The people here in Texas, if anything, are more opened minded and less prejudice then those in California I witnessed. They're just more politically correct there in what they say, but otherwise not much different.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/our-national-debt-rut.html#comment-182532
sorry Patsi, this one

I think you find all sorts of people everywhere, Chloe. I know Texans who are among the most liberal around and vice versa. Same with Tennesseans. Of course, I've usually worked in music-connected situations, so you have a different kind of people.They are creative, from all over the country, and more concerned with their art than anything else.

When Gore was running in 2000 the main thing I kept hearing was guns, guns, guns. I'm sure that other things were at work as well, of course....but I'd just never known that guns was such a big issue.

One foundation closes because of Madoff, and Lautenberg's foundation stands to lose very big bucks.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/sns-ap-wall-street-arrest,0,6227430.story

"I'd just never known that guns was such a big issue."

Maybe because the big issue is actually 'rights' Patsi.

People, understandably, don't want to give up their rights. Just as all races, all nationalities, all genders, etc. etc. want their rights. The same reason there should be same sex marriages. We're all supposed to all have equal rights.

And even though we don't understand why their guns are so important to them, they believe that is their right too.

Patsi, that's what defeated Gore in WV in '00. "He's gonna take away our guns." Idiots. This time around, some thing, with a touch of racism and religion thrown in to boot. Obama didn't stand a chance here. Hell, they are reporting that gun sales have been brisk since the election at all the gun shows that go from NG armory to NG armory. The line they ar eusing now is that Obama doesn't have a good track record on guns - hmmmm, I wonder where they got that idea?

same thing (not some thing)

patsi, chloe
found more bigots in boston than anyplace south of it.

"found more bigots in boston than anyplace south of it."

HA!

re: automaker legacy costs - not to mention pensions.

http://www.autoblog.com/2006/09/20/explaining-the-burden-of-legacy-costs/

patd - you don't have to look too hard there - ever hear of Southie?

Yeah, Pogo -- "they're coming for your guns" is a biggie....

The dumb part of it is that I know a lot of Democrats, liberals, who own guns, including myself. I have my dad's old 22 rifle, with the stock one of my nephews made...I ain't giving that gun to anyone. And I know that no Democrat is going to ask me to....

I actually know people who say they think they will buy some more guns. And these aren't whacked out nuts. But it's more about the economy than anything else. Some of these guys think the country is headed toward all out depression and anarchy.

I guess if it happens I'll probably be one of the anarchists. If I can remember how to load that .22.

yeah, pogo, but southie can't hold a candle to that little school on the charles

patd - you mean the one with "ar"s pronounced as "ah"s?

I have to give a big thank you to all the electrical crews that have come to our aid here in New Hampshire, I saw a group of trucks from Maryland with their crews working on the lines here is Nashua today and it made me feel grateful that these people have traveled hundreds of miles to help.

yep, and the closer you are to john asittin in his chair the closer you are to gawd.

Remember when Hillary was going around on the campaign trail like she was Annie Oakley?

Talking about guns? Yep -- I think most of 'em pander to gun owners at some point. But Annie Oakley wasn't her term....

The L Word 25 men who look like old lesbians the Blago edition.

http://getoffmyphone.blogspot.com/2008/12/l-word.html

I know. Kidding. But, that's how she was portrayed.

"I know. Kidding.'

I knew you were.... :)

"The L Word 25 men who look like old lesbians the Blago edition."

I'd never seen the actual list with photos....hiparious!!!

"hiparious"

Or, hilarious....depends....

Barack Obama: Hillary talking like she's Annie Oakley
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzQxFtM9cfk

Justices won't review Obama's eligibility to serve

Another one bites the dust!

Four Years, Next case!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081215/ap_on_go_su_co/scotus_obama;_ylt=AvxXVErrpomWjjmXglkGD_BMEP0E

Someone, please help the G Man up off the floor.

Thought for the day :
" If reality wants to get in touch with me, it knows where I am. "

B Wino you share your Birthday with & Happy Birthday -

0037 Nero Claudius Augustus Germanicus 5th emperor of Rome (54-68)
1832 Alexandre-Gustave Eiffel French engineer (Eiffel tower)
1892 J Paul Getty Minneapolis MN, oil magnate (Getty Oil)

1593 State of Holland grants patent on windmill with crankshaft
1791 Bill of Rights ratified when Virginia gave its approval
1791 1st US law school established at University of Pennsylvania
1792 1st life insurance policy issued in US (Philadelphia)
1877 Thomas Edison patents phonograph
1944 Bandleader, Major Glenn Miller, lost over English Channel

Tuxedo Junction - Glenn Miller

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNI0DBdWLX4

This is completely made up, so please don't repeat it as real.

Explanation for the Secret Service delay and allowing a second shoe to be thrown at President Bush:

Agent MacElroy: “It’s my fault. I totally misread the situation. From where I was standing, the man who threw the shoe appeared to have only one leg.”

Arena Football League cancels 2009 season

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=497237

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Will anyone notice ?

What's this I here about Bush not willing to take one for the Flag. I see he ducked and let that Iraqi desecrate our flag.

Jack

This is the kind of crap that completely screws our local economies:
http://www.thestate.com/local/v-print/story/622256.html

If my memory is close to being accurate, the protagonist, Continental, was given ten years of favorable taxpayer-supported incentives that would expire in 2020--the year that they'll leave for incentives elsewhere.

This crap must stop. Businesses must be forced to indemnify municipalities for the physical detritus they leave behind, and the social costs of the loss of jobs that go far beyond the closed plant by itself.

Best headline today -
Peru seizes 3 tons of cocaine mixed with guano

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1102ap_lt_peru_cocaine_guano.html

C-Bob,

I really wanted to connect the dots between the 1st U.S. law school being founded in 1791 and a year later the first insurance policy being issued. If it had been any kind of insurance other than life insurance it would have worked.

As to the Arena Football League cancellation, only the company that manufactures those nerf-looking footballs and a few beer and popcorn vendors in each city are likely to be affected.

Nascar’s Sponsors, Hit by Sticker Shock

Automakers aren’t the only ones pulling out. Longtime sponsors — including Kodak, Texaco and Domino’s Pizza — are abandoning Nascar. Even Craftsman, the Sears brand that has been the title sponsor of the truck series since it started in 1995, is cutting its ties.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/14/business/14nascar.html?em

Flatus,
Most public economic development plans carry a term commitment for the business entity which usually calls for job creation during the term. After the term of the contract is over the business and state are free from its covenants. In a free country this means they can both go about their respective business interests unencumbered. What about this seems unfair....???

Pogo, I well know the feeling of a stolen camera. I left my Leica on the seat of my Jeep while I ran into my hooch for something. By the time I got back, it was gone. Of course, there was no one in sight. It was a pre-war Leica IID with the collapsible Elmar lens. It fit perfectly in the shirt pocket of my fatigues; that's where I should have left it. I keep looking for one to replace it.

Casinos rolling snake eyes in bad economy
Lotteries, horse racing also suffering as gamblers sit on their wallets

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28163581/

Jax, in the legal sense there is nothing "unfair". In the broader social and economic sense it's as sound a practice as slash-and-burn acrigulture.

Rezdog--------------

No surprise. This was expected by almost everyone. SCOTUS and the other courts refuse to deal with the "natural born" issue for a number of reasons - one reason is fear of what would happen if the Constitutional requirement is enforced (Obots have threatened in the primaries, general and now to "torch" cities across the country if he does not become POTUS.) . SoetorObama has NOT been ruled a "natural born" citizen!!! Efforts are continuing even after today - some people still care about the Constitution. If SoetorObama reaches the WH, he will be a usurper - nothing he does will be legal. Teams of lawyers are already preparing to challenge everything. SoetorObama is a fraud.

Jellyfish Gone Wild

1. 1/3 of the total weight of all life in Monterey Bay is from gelatinous animals.

2. 3 minutes after a person is stung by a deadly box jellyfish, s/he may be dead.

3. 8 years after fast-reproducing comb jellies invaded in the Black Sea, they dominated it.

4. 20 to 40 people are killed annually from box jellyfish stings in the Philippines alone.

5. 100 foot-long tentacles may dangle from the Lion’s Mane Jelly.

6. 400 vast Dead Zones in world oceans are too polluted for almost all life except jellyfish.

7. 1,000+ fist-sized comb jellies filled each cubic meter of water in Black Sea jelly blooms.

8. 45,000 eggs may be released daily by a single jellyfish.

9. 500,000 people are stung by jellyfish in the Chesapeake Bay annually.

10. 500 million refrigerator-sized jellyfish float into the Sea of Japan daily during blooms.

http://www.nsf.gov/news/special_reports/jellyfish/textonly/index.jsp

SoetorObama has NOT been ruled a "natural born" citizen!!!
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Pathalogical

Flatus,
Its easy to solve....no state is required to offer any special incentive for businesses to operate there. Its really very simple.

Businesses like individuals will locate wherever it is most advantageous to prosper. They will also, like individuals, move to greener pastures at their leisure.

Why do you expect business to be held to a higher standard than you yourself would be?

ms wino, i hope you have had a wonderous birthday today. sounds like it started out just fine, one size ten shoe and then another with pomp and flourishes. may you have an equally jolly evening. perhaps barney can drop some chocolate goodies in his master's path in your honour.

When I move, I clean the old house, cut the grass and trim the shrubs, have my mail forwarded and make sure that the house is left in safe hands, i.e., it has a buyer. No harm, no foul.

Businesses ignore that last part.

I thoroughly understand that businesses have an obligation to do the best for their shareholders. That obligation, of course, is tempered by the law.

The cure is simple, change the laws that incentivize this practice.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/our-national-debt-rut.html#comment-182585

Teams of patriots you mean!

Flatus,
There are hundreds of thousands of abandoned homes in the US. They have been left in various states of repair. Taxes are owed, bills unpaid, neighborhoods blighted.
By your thoughts the individuals should be forced to pay the "physical detritus and social costs associated with their departure"
Responsibility.........Now do you see???????

Jellyfish are among the only creatures that can adapt to utra-polluted, oxygen starved waters known as Dead Zones. Lacking competitors and predators in Dead Zones, jellyfish tend to thrive in such waters.

From 2004 to 2006 alone, the number of global Dead Zones--which each covered 45,000 square miles--increased from 150 to 200.

Some communities do as Tampa has done--declare the properties a public nuisance, give the mortgage holder 15-minutes to make them habitable, then raze them if that isn't done. Sorry 'bout that. Responsibility.........Now do you see???????

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/our-national-debt-rut.html#comment-182585

Team of parrots.

Has anyone seen David Vitter on TV since it was rightly pointed out that he would rather spend money on prostitutes than on American Industry and workers?

Flatus,
Your issue before was with businesses bailing out on states. You want them held accountable. But when an indiviual bails on their obligations that's OK??? How is that responsible??

Bear,
Given our current state my guess is that his rate of return on prostitutes is better.....laughs

Obot = parrot

I woke-up last night, and there was Das Boot on TCM. Still trying wash the smell of diesel off me.

Johann in the engine room, listening to the cylinders with an old valve held up to his ear.

Das Boot (Tipperary Song)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KIl8-GADyE

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/our-national-debt-rut.html#comment-182593

patriot, patriot, patriot!

Das Boot - U-Boat on the Hunt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATEjQhdfA8U

DJ Ted Stevens Techno Remix: "A Series of Tubes"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtOoQFa5ug8

Hey Chloe, It's a pretty insular and especially close knit community. The kids enjoy a lot of freedom here as the crime rate is quite low. Some people are starting to take their keys out of their cars in the summer now though, but most islanders probably couldn't tell you where their house key is. Not summer people though, they have their cars all locked up with obnoxious alarms. Don't know where they think anybody is going to go with their car. Real glad I haven't heard those things go off for a couple of months now. It's not uncommon to see teenagers hitchhiking, I use to hitch to the south beach when I was 12 with my parents permission! On the other hand there is no mall or McDonalds, the kids might be a bit less materialistic., But with no mall etc. teenagers here can have some wild parties. One night of the Vineyard- Nantucket football game I had about 175 kids here. Hell, there are about 6 of them upstairs now. I imagine parents are a bit more permissive about drinking and reefer, (not only because they do it a lot themselves), but the kids aren't out in cars, just hanging out in homes. So the kids really have no concept of bad neighborhoods etc. A good thing till they get to the real world!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha's_Vineyard

The brake line got fixed, am told there were 2 bald tires replaced too. So they are leaving Wilmington and going to DC tonight. My heart is in my throat. Thanks for asking Chloe.

Jax, I think this is the one you were thinking of:

Jul 10, 2008 7:22 am US/Central
Toyota Texas Plant To Close For 3 Months
Automaker To Announce U.S. Manufacturing Changes Today
http://cbs11tv.com/local/toyota.texas.changes.2.767654.html

Chloe,
laughs....he's just sooooo

"No person except a natural born citizen... shall be eligible to the office of president..." Obama has admitted that he is NOT, NEVER was and NEVER will be natural born! He has NO right to be President!

Barack Obama has ADMITTED he had dual citizenship at birth. This is not in question like his place of birth is. Even if Obama can prove that he was born on American soil, which he can't, he still is ineligible because of his dual citizenship."

http://americamustknow.com/default.aspx

"The cure is simple, change the laws that incentivize this practice."

Good point, Flatus. We encourage this game of state-to-state musical tax breaks.

oh, TED......get down, brutha-main......

pogo.....yes mostly, out in the wild, the panels float.....you can put in small inch long or so pieces of plastic tubing in the groove, couple on a side, to eliminate the rattle.......

old sea, good news, eh?

"most islanders probably couldn't tell you where their house key is."

It wasn't long ago that we did that out here where we are Sea.

Thanks for telling me about life there. It sounds like a really great place and a nice way to bring up kids. I would think it would be hard to live any place else, if you spent long enough there.

Glad that all is well with your daughter, and that you can now rest easy. :)
................................................

HAPPY BIRTHDAY BLONDE!

"Jellyfish are among the only creatures that can adapt to utra-polluted, oxygen starved waters known as Dead Zones. "

C-Bob -- The ultimate Apocalypse Movie -- nothing is left but jellyfish in the seas, and cockroaches on land: The Final Battle.

sooooo... not nice....yes Jax :)

Chloe,
I was going to say so hoplessly, regularly, wrong....but not nice sounds better...Thanx...:)

OSH -- If the kids break down in Washington DC -- email me....my son might be able to help.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/our-national-debt-rut.html#comment-182617

LOL Jax. :)

Pogo......that is, panels in cabinet doors I'm accustomed to.....if someone who knows what he's doing is gluing the panels in fast and tight he probably has a good reason for it.........

C-Bob, surge and any other former Colorado cats-- Westword has a lengthy piece on the impending demise of the Rocky Mountain News:

http://www.westword.com/2008-12-11/news/the-rocky-mountain-news-is-going-down/

Oldsea - Help! I can't find your web site - I had it on my favorites list and must have deleted it somehow. I want to order some goodies!

All of my life in the house I grew up in the doors were never locked - except if I stayed there alone. It was always a chore to find the house key.

I am still stupified by Madoff's ability to suckerpunch people like Zuckerman and Lautenberg. And where is all the money?

"If the courts finally do their duty, and Obama is exposed as an usurper, the legitimacy of the rest of the political system will be eviscerated (and the legitimacy of even the courts will be in doubt, because their intervention was so reluctant and tardy).

What will be the necessary consequence of the exposure of America’s political system as illegitimate in its entirety? Power will replace law. As Mao Tse-tung opined, political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.

So, at that point, because the courts did not act, and Congress did not act, and We the People did not act, the Praetorians will see fit to act. And even if the Military Commission eventually returns power to civilians, the precedent will be set in steel for “the Latin American solution”—government by junta."

http://www.newswithviews.com/Vieira/edwin186.htm

Bethy,

Here's Sea's candy site:
http://newmoonmagick.net/enchantedchocolates.html

Sea, I just emailed you regarding a question placing my order.

All this talk about Sea's candy is making it hard to hold out for that wonderful fudge until after dinner...Antisipation,well maybe just a little to tide me over till dinner because I still have to hit the stepper....HA....

"It's official: Barack Obama elected 44th president"

As one of my nephews would say:; "Case up!"

G Man,

Chill on the hyperbole. C. Arthur didn't meet your NBC test and AmeeryCa made it. Bush did meet your NBC test and our country's survival is questionable.

"the Praetorians will see fit to act. "

G-man -- I'd be a little careful throwing that idea around.

"Arthur didn't meet your NBC test ..."

"Chester Arthur’s lies came during his Vice Presidential campaign in 1880. His fraudulent attempt to obfuscate family history provides context and evidence that in 1880 it was recognized that having been born as a British citizen would make one ineligible to be President or VP. His falsification of family history indicates he was aware of POTUS ineligibility.

William Arthur was not a naturalized citizen at the time of Chester Arthur’s birth, and therefore Chester Arthur was a British subject at birth and not eligible to be Vice President or President.

Because Chester Arthur covered up his British citizenship, any precedent he might have set that the country has had a President born of an alien father is nullified completely as Chester Arthur was a usurper to the Presidency."

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2008/12/06/urgent-historical-breakthrough-proof-chester-arthur-concealed-he-was-a-british-subject-at-birth/

Jay Carney leaving Time to work for Biden...

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1208/16600.html

Flatus,

Someone here might be able to help you find that Leica.

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/

Gordo,

Raising the Arthur situation was an effort to counter your wild speculation about our Country going to hell with guns, juntas and law at the end of a barrel, and not about presidential eligibility. Don't conflate the two.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/our-national-debt-rut.html#comment-182629

It's Edwin Vieira's idea.

http://www.newswithviews.com/Vieira/edwin186.htm

(Heard that he is Meredith's brother.)

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/our-national-debt-rut.html#comment-182624

Patsi,

Most of it is probably gone. There may be some attempt to go after the dividends paid to early investors. They didn't commit any crime but the payments received were the result of a Ponzi scheme fraud.

Later investors are just SOL. Unless the feds can find some hidden bank accounts, all the money just went "poof" as it always does with a Ponzi.

I'm amazed it took as long as it did to catch up with him. The crash in the world's financial organizations is probably what laid it bare.

The SoetorObama situation is far more dangerous to the country's future. Arthur did not represent a threat - SoetorObama does - think about it.

Patsi,

I just ran across this Tompall Glaser gem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50BcGGGLK54

"The crash in the world's financial organizations is probably what laid it bare. "

That makes a lot of sense Jamie...Damn! One guy on NPR said his neighbor -- an older widow -- lost all her savings. Every penny.

Bow -- Thanks -- I hadn't seen that medley! People sometimes forget that Tompall and Harlan Howard wrote this classic tune:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPD1yKPTzGM&feature=related

Here's what Gordo or someone should be working on. Torture and war crimes by the current administration From Glenn Greenwald at Salon:

Just ponder the uproar if, in any other country, the political parties joined together and issued a report documenting that the country's President and highest aides were directly responsible for war crimes and widespread detainee abuse and death. Compare the inevitable reaction to such an event if it happened in another country to what happens in the U.S. when such an event occurs -- a virtual media blackout, ongoing fixations by political journalists with petty scandals, and an undisturbed consensus that, no matter what else is true, high-level American political figures (as opposed to powerless low-level functionaries) must never be held accountable for their crimes.

He's talking about a report Senator McCain briefly mentioned this weekend with George Stephanopoulos

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/

Jamie, thanks for the link. Here's a picture of the camera in question:
http://www.whoami.dk/3d/leica_II/

There is one on ebay today--$800. Guess I have to save some more nickles and dimes.

And Bow -- one more for us rubes....from Rolling Stone's favorite hillbilly:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_cu7v6VmyQ&feature=related

Thanks for the concern and well wishes everyone and Patsi thank you,for the offer I'll keep that in mind! Chloe, thanks for passing on the site to Bethy!

Interesting info about the "real" Ponzi --

http://money.cnn.com/2008/12/15/news/newsmakers/ponzi.fortune/index.htm?postversion=2008121511

It's interesting that Charlie Pride is singing that song. One of the most famous poets of the Harlem Renaisance, Countee Cullen, wrote about Baltimore

Incident
Once riding in old Baltimore,
Heart-filled, head-filled with glee,
I saw a Baltimorean
Keep looking straight at me.

Now I was eight and very small,
And he was no whit bigger,
And so I smiled, but he poked out
His tongue, and called me, "Nigger."

I saw the whole of Baltimore
From May until December;
Of all the things that happened there
That's all that I remember.

Thanks for the link, Chloe.

Oldsea, I just sent in an order. For my sake I'm planning to give most of it away. I have so much will power - I never use it so I've got it saved for the day I do use it.

And how about this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8yYEq6Y1Lg

Streets Of Baltimore
Words and Music by Tompall Glaser and Harlan Howard

Well I sold the farm to take my woman where she used to be
We left our kin and all our friends back there in Tennessee
And I bought those one way tickets she had often begged me for
And they took us to the streets of Baltimore
Well her heart was filled with gladness when she saw those city lights
She said the prettiest place on earth was Baltimore at night
Well a man feels proud to give his woman what she's longing for
And I kinda liked the streets of Baltimore

hen I got myself a factory job, I ran an old machine
And I bought a little cottage in a neighborhood serene
And every night when I'd come home with every muscle sore
She'd drag me through the streets of Baltimore
Well I did my best to bring her back to what she used to be
Then I soon learned she loved those bright lights more than she loved me
Now I'm a going back on that same train that brought me here before
While my baby walks the streets of Baltimore
While my baby walks the streets of Baltimore

Bethy,

I have lots of will power. It's the won't power that's missing.

"Well a man feels proud to give his woman what she's longing for
And I kinda liked the streets of Baltimore"

Every hillbilly's downfall.... :)

Yeah

Patsi,
Those bright lights and the women they attract do it to us every time

"Those bright lights and the women they attract do it to us every time"

Doncha know it....and for us women, it's bad men and dim lights... :)

Dim Lights, Thick Smoke and Loud, Loud Music....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tRgoyibFMA

ROFL, Bow -- I love the line "You'll never make a wife to a home-lovin' man."

It rivals my favorite Janis Joplin line:

"I ain't the kind of woman to make your lifea bed of ease, but if you just want to go out drinkin' won't you invite me along please."

Patsi

The turtle blues, Janis Joplin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXGlNwLlk0k

lol, I see why you like it

Jack

Cute, but I already bought this one:

http://calendars.cafepress.com/item/wall-calendar-doing-drugs-is-stupid/144871363

Jack -- that song always brings back the BEST memories....1969 -- Germany....a bunch of my husband's Vietnam pals sitting around our apartment and we were all listening to Janis....I was 23 years old and VERY pregnant, and we all laughed at the lines of the song. (I was one of the very few army wives who put up with those guys....)

Interesting you should say that. I am not surprised that you think a good "home life" is one with multiple step fathers as opposed to a single feminist mother. Or maybe that's not what you think after all....

You and your kind already went after Sarah Palin as a "bad mother" -- don't dream you can do it to feminists.

"ilk" would have been better....

Bri -- best you and I just shut up for the night....

Are the shoes about to come off? I wear size 10 in case anybody needs a pair to throw. LOL!

I've got some heavy work boots I could toss!

Craig Ferguson said that Oliver Stone was gonna make a movie about what happened to Bush. He thinks there may have been a 2nd shoe thrower! LOL!

Facebook entries from Baghdad and Palestine are calling al-Zaidi a hero...very interesting reading. al-Zaidi has a mandate for no prison time , instead a hero's parade.

"Oliver Stone was gonna make a movie about what happened to Bush. He thinks there may have been a 2nd shoe thrower! LOL!"

Ha! Good one.

patsi, wonder if a movie will be made about madoff. a robinhood knockoff: he stole from the rich to give to the rich. except in reality there were some not so rich involved.