I saw that the Obama book we printed was in the bargain bin at Barnes & Nobel for $5. It was hopelessly out of date since it was printed before the nomination.
I think I'll save my money and use it on something fun, like going skiing tomorrow.
yep, and the problem with stupid is people are always borrowing it and not bringing it back..............then youre stuck with making up a new batch.............
Well, the souvenirs were probably all made in China out of a 50/50 mix of melamine & lead. So, while might want to buy Obama merchandise, you probably don't want to lick it.
Thought for the day : ( Sometimes these things are really stupid ........ Today is one of those days.)
" The light of a hundred stars doesn't equal the light of the moon. "
0039 Titus 10th Roman emperor (79-81), conqueror of Jerusalem
1851 Asa Griggs Candler developed Coca-Cola
1865 Rudyard Kipling Bombay, author (Jungle Book, Gunga Din-Nobel 1907)
1928 Bo Diddley [Ellas Bates] Mississippi, rock 'n' roll pioneer (Bo Diddley)
1931 Skeeter Davis [Mary Penick] Dry Ridge KY, singer (End of the World)
1942 Michael Nesmith Houston, rocker/actor (Monkees-Last Train to Clarksville)
1945 [David] Davy Jones Manchester England, singer/actor (Monkees-Last Train to Clarksville)
1731 1st US music concert (Peter Pelham's great room in Boston)
1809 Wearing masks at balls forbidden in Boston
1817 1st coffee planted in Hawaii (Kona)
1835 After gold discovery in Georgia, Cherokees are forced to move across Mississippi River
1853 Gadsden Purchase - 45,000 square miles (120,000 km) by Gila River from Mexico for $10 million; Area is now southern Arizona & New Mexico
1854 Pennsylvania Rock Oil Company, 1st in US, incorporated in New York NY
1879 Gilbert & Sullivan's "Pirates of Penzance" premieres
1936 United Auto Workers stage 1st sit-down strike, at Fisher Body Plant
1938 Electronic television system patented by V K Zworykin
1940 California's 1st freeway (Arroyo Seco Parkway) opens
1952 Tuskegee Institute reports 1952 as 1st year in 71 with no lynchings in US
1967 Beatles' "Hello Goodbye" single goes #1 & stays #1 for 3 weeks
1974 Beatles are legally disbanded (4 years after suit was brought)
1979 Rock group, Emerson Lake & Palmer break up
Today's Broadway flop -
1993 "Candles, Snow, & Mistletoe" closes at Palace NYC after 7 performances
And Mika was right, you can't get Morning Joe mugs at the NBC store. They had nothing MoJo when I was there this month, but still lots of old stuff from "Friends," and the the like. Who runs marketing for that store?
I absolutely hate that plate commercial. My glurge threshold is very low to begin with but the "kind eyes and confident smile" dialogue complete with uplifting orchestral music is positively nauseating made even more so by knowing they are probably selling them hand over fist.
As a former T-Shirt vendor this story warms my heart. They don't have to pay a nickel to Obama for his likeness. And their biggest problem is making change.
The T-Shirt business is really fun when you can't make change fast enough.
While I knew what penultimate was, it doesn't exactly come tripping off the tongue at odd moments. :-) I never knew so many people did so many things on penultimate days. This one of a British series on Big Cats hunting is quite nice.
" Kennedy supported Obama, Obama picked HRC, as SOS, freeing up her Senate Seat. So, now it's time for Obama, to pay Teddy Back. And the final bill is The Senate Seat for Caroline."
Lampe,
As far as I'm concerned, that was always a given. Of course a deal was made. How can anyone be so naive as to deny that.
The list is loaded for me today. I once went to a party in the Santa Monica mountains held by some ex pat Australians whose idea of a party was to take hostages on Friday night and release the still living on Sunday.
One of the other guests was a delightful man named Ted Hamilton whom I didn't recognize and who was introduced as a former Government official. We had an absolutely wonderful political conversation that we got so into that some busy body went and asked his wife (girlfriend?) if she wanted it broken up. Her response and why I've liked Australian women ever since, "For heaven sakes NO! I'm just glad he found someone else to listen to him for a change".
Anyway turns out that in addition to being a politician, he was a singer and actor and had starred as "The Pirate King" in the "The Pirate Movie" based on Pirates of Penzance. It still makes me smile when it turns up on TV.
i tried to sleep, and then I tried to eat some soup by first taking anti-nausea medicine as per the doctor... got a little soup down but it didn't stay there. :-(
CHEYENNE, Wyo. - Yellowstone National Park was jostled by a host of small earthquakes for a third straight day Monday, and scientists watched closely to see whether the more than 250 tremors were a sign of something bigger to come.
"Michael Nesmith's mother invented White Out at her kitchen table. "
G.I.s on isolated tours have known about whiteout for decades. It went something like this, "I've been gone so long that I'm suffering major whiteout!"
I wish I had quoted this paragraph when I linked the above article.
"As our case is new, so we must think anew, and act anew," Abraham Lincoln declared in 1862. "We must disenthrall ourselves, and then we shall save our country."
Samuel Huntington's Warning
"As a patriot I am deeply concerned about the unity and strength of my country as a society based on liberty, equality, law and individual rights." http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123060172023141417.html
12.29.08 -- 7:14PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (151)
The Long Goodbye
I think I have this right. The Republican party has decided on the racial joke issue as the vehicle to reintroduce themselves to the American people after the 2008 blow out.
The Palin family does seem stuck on the "Tr" sound with Track, Trig and now Trip. I wonder if new additions will be Troop, Trek, and Trudge. If there's a girl they can call her Trickle.
Obama Gets Heckled In Hawaii
Barack Obama found himself getting heckled during his Hawaiian vacation, after he asked a cheering crowd whether they liked his golf game. One woman responded: "Better than your bowling."
Well, you know, Chloe....what can I say? Sturge, I will see your earlier "Yeah, but..." and raise it with a "You know...." C-Bob, back in the early 90's if I traveled to Ann Arbor on Saturday afternoons and drove around the campus of U of M after football games, mainly games Michigan lost, there would always be at least one college kid selling freshly printed t-shirts that usually said "F- -k " followed by the name of whichever team beat Michigan that day. But, usually the cops would come and confiscate the shirts within a short time.
With Obama toys selling like hot cakes--does that mean that the rest of the country is ok with the way we do things (politics) here in Illinois ?,,,,that's good for us-we just need for you to get distracted for an instant,we will take from there,,,but no complaints later on.
Price of gas --up .10 per gl. at the pump--butr crude is down 1.00 per gl
The hedge fund era as we have known it may have come to an end, with returns evaporating, clients demanding their money and officials eager to tighten regulation, but experts say the industry is poised to emerge stronger once it consolidates, cleans up shop and opens the blinds.
While hedge funds are not required to publicly disclose much information, the industry stands to book its first year of negative performance since private groups first started tracking data about a decade ago. Hedge fund investments lost 22% of their worth through November, according to BarclayHedge, which collects data from around 2,200 funds. In light of the unprecedented turmoil and huge market shifts from day to day, few were nimble enough to avoid losses, leaving hardly any portfolio unscathed
" The right has long pushed abstinence-only programs as an alternative to sex education, and the Bush administration has funded those programs to the tune of roughly a billion dollars. "
Stocks in U.S. Gain as GMAC Gets Government Money; GM, Ford Shares Advance U.S. stocks climbed, recouping yesterday’s losses, after the government widened its efforts to keep General Motors Corp. out of bankruptcy by shoring up its finance arm.
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Researchers have found out what made the 1918 flu pandemic so deadly -- a group of three genes that lets the virus invade the lungs and cause pneumonia.
This cought my eye because several of my woman relatives were saying that even most of the high quality stores --sorta looked like warehouse stores----all the clothes off the racks,,,no sales people around that much etc.
Saks, Macy's Discounts Spark Spat With Vendors After Holiday Sales Debacle Clothing makers, balking at the deep holiday discounts offered by retailers such as Macy’s Inc., may force department stores to eat more of the markdowns.
END CORPORATE "PERSONHOOD"
An 1886 Supreme Court clerk's headnotes misreading (Santa Clara County vs. Southern Pacific Railroad) applied the 14th Amendment to corporations, extending to them all the rights, but none of the responsibilities, of human persons. The result has been the steady erosion of our democracy since then, and the consequent rise of the corporate state, which is primarily responsible for the military-corporate-media-academic complex, the expansion of the often brutal U.S. global empire (including the IMF, WTO, and World Bank) with its protecting militarism, and the destruction of our only planet's environment, all in the service of corporate capital's endless lust for power and profits. Corporate personhood is at the core of all of our problems. Ending it is the start of the way back to humane civilization.
"The Palin family does seem stuck on the "Tr" sound with Track, Trig and now Trip. I wonder if new additions will be Troop, Trek, and Trudge. If there's a girl they can call her Trickle."
jamie, you left out trudy, trish, trina, tramp and trollop...
cbob, like this?
"Researchers have long predicted that the Yellowstone supervolcano will eventually erupt again, with devastating consequences for much of the United States. Half the country could be covered in ash up to 3 feet (1 meter) deep, one study predicts. But those same researchers say nothing suggests such an eruption is imminent. They point out, however, that Yellowstone seems to blow its top about every 600,000 years." http://www.livescience.com/environment/081230-yellowstone-earthquake-swarm.html
jamie, thanks for the vanity fair article link. but that photo! what a way to not make my day. did you look in the eyes of some of those folks? scaaarry. bet if they held up a mirror to some there'd be no reflection.
SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- A U.S. Bankruptcy court judge approved a transfer of $28.1 million from Bank of New York Mellon Corp. (BK:
bank of new york mellon corp com
to cover expenses associated with the liquidation of Bernard Madoff's firm, according to media reports Tuesday. On Dec. 15, the Securities Investor Protection Corporation said it was liquidating Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities LLC and a federal court appointed Irving Picard as trustee of the liquidation. Picard later filed court documents stating he needed the money to help cover employee salaries and other costs associated with the liquidation.
I have to take issue with your daily history source. Congressional Quarterly's trivia question today mentioned that yesterday was the bicentennial of Andrew Johnson's birth.
Your source told us about:
1721 Madame De Pompadour mistress of French King Louis the 15th
but left out our 15th President. I checked it out. They had cake and ice cream yesterday in Greeneville, TN to mark the occasion.
U.S. December consumer confidence below 45.8 expected
SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Just when you thought it was safe to settle down for a quiet end to a really rough year, Hamas and Israel decided to mix it up again.
As Hamas lobs rockets into Israel, Israel pounds Hamas and the death toll mounts, the few energy traders out there who decided not to take the week off predictably ran up crude prices to match the bloody score in Gaza. Read about latest oil price spike.
Once again, news from that violent corner of the planet sends a shiver through the economy, reminding everyone that the break we've enjoyed from high oil prices was fragile and that anything that smells like heightened tension in the Middle East can -- and will -- jack oil prices higher in a flash.
The U.S. markets have been transfixed for the past few months by the calamity on Wall Street and billion-dollar bailouts thrown at the banks and auto makers. The luxury, if we can call it that, of being able to focus on core problems in the financial sector has been possible in part because crude oil prices have plunged from their record highs, eliminating a major distraction.
Gasoline prices are back below $2 a gallon, where most Americans think they belong. This has brought welcome relief to the economy. Imagine how much worse those all-important holiday retail sales might have been if gas prices had remained at $4 a gallon. Imagine also how much more damaging oil imports would have been to the nation's already huge trade deficit if they had remained close to their $147-per-barrel peak in July.
that annie leibowitz photo of the cabinet would make a great backdrop for all sorts of motivational events.....
darts
socratic lesson plans
bar ethics exams
letterman lists
anger management
phobia desensitizing
"-does that mean that the rest of the country is ok with the way we do things (politics) here in Illinois ?,,,,that's good for us-we just need for you to get distracted for an instant,we will take from there,,,but no complaints later on."
Ha Solar! I always reserve my right to complain. :)
Since this is the penultimate day of December, I think Fearless leader should take a break from writing in order to make like Santa Claus and show up on all of our doorsteps at exactly 12:01 AM on Jan 1 as the dark haired first footer armed with the traditional Scotch and a lump of coal.
"A custom known as "first footing" dictates that the first person to cross a home's threshold after midnight on New Year's Eve will determine the home-owner's luck for the new year. The ideal visitor bears gifts—preferably whiskey, coal for the fire, small cakes, or a coin—and should be a man with a dark complexion. Why? The answer hearkens back to the 8th century, when the presumably fair-haired Vikings invaded Scotland: a blond visitor was not a good omen. "
We could bomb the surrounding states if they don't cooperate-
The US Government’s Secret Colorado Oil Discovery
Rense
Hidden 1,000 feet beneath the surface of the Rocky Mountains lies the largest untapped oil reserve in the world - more than 2 TRILLION barrels. On August 8, 2005 President Bush mandated its extraction. Three companies have been chosen to lead the way. Test drilling has already begun
Dear Reader,
Five months ago, the U.S. Energy Department announced the results of a land survey
It was conducted to determine the official amount of oil a thousand feet deep in the Rocky Mountains
They reported this stunning news:
We have more oil inside our borders, than all the other proven reserves on earth.
Here are the official estimates:
* 8-times as much oil as Saudi Arabia
* 18-times as much oil as Iraq
* 21-times as much oil as Kuwait
* 22-times as much oil as Iran
* 500-times as much oil as Yemen
And it’s all right here in the Western United States.
James Bartis, lead researcher with the study says, “We’ve got more oil in this very compact area than the entire Middle East.”
More than 2 TRILLION barrels. Untapped.
“That’s more than all the proven oil reserves of crude oil in the world today,” reports The Denver Post. --- More very interesting comments from the first commentator
"Ha Solar! I always reserve my right to complain. :)"
Ok ----but you have to be an Il resident for at least one snow fall,,that is the bad thing-----you helping me shovel out of the next one,,,is a good thing,,,,,and this will allow you to shout out all you complaints.---later
Reminder: Kennedy Center Honors ceremony will be broadcast tonight. Honorees: Morgan Freeman, George Jones, Barbra Streisand, Twyla Tharp, Pete Townshend and Roger Daltrey.
Solar, Sounds like fun. How much destruction could we manage by hauling it all out for burning. I've got a better idea. Let's leave it there for a few million more years and see if it turns into diamonds.
Jamie-----we have to leave it there, and let it turn into diamonds........if we don't we will be rushing that little boom from Yellow Stone Park--good thing Obama is in----or the big money people would get their way on this also???but every thing is changing into ME any way Solar panels and more energy efficient means----this why Im very comfortable with Obamas choice of Energy Sec.
Can the Vatican be looking at the % of converts here? lets get them Baptized and they are ours forever--lot s of young minds to manipulate.
Vatican Issues Instruction on Bioethics
The Vatican issued its most authoritative and sweeping document on bioethical issues in more than 20 years on Friday, taking into account recent developments in biomedical technology and reinforcing the church’s opposition to in vitro fertilization, human cloning, genetic testing on embryos before implantation and embryonic stem cell research.
The Vatican says these techniques violate the principles that every human life — even an embryo — is sacred, and that babies should be conceived only through intercourse by a married couple.
The 32-page instruction, titled “Dignitas Personae,” or “The Dignity of the Person,” was issued by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the Vatican’s doctrinal office, and carries the approval and the authority of Pope Benedict XVI.
Under discussion for six years, it is a moral response to bioethical questions raised in the 21 years since the congregation last issued instructions.
It bans the morning-after pill, the intrauterine device and the pill RU-486, saying these can result in what amount to abortions.
The Vatican document reiterates that the church is opposed to research on stem cells derived from embryos. But it does not oppose research on stem cells derived from adults; blood from umbilical cords; or fetuses “who have died of natural causes.”
The document does not prohibit the use of vaccines developed using “cell lines of illicit origin” if children’s health is at stake. But it says that “everyone has the duty” to inform health care providers of personal objections to such vaccines.
The church also objects to freezing embryos, arguing that doing so exposes them to potential damage and manipulation, and that it raises the problem of what to do with frozen embryos that are not implanted. There are at least 400,000 of these in the United States alone.
“Our advice is that freezing should not take place,” said Bishop Elio Sgreccia, president emeritus of the Pontifical Academy for Life. “Because once it is done, you’re in a situation where to correct the error implies a further offense. Once you have them, what do you do with them?”
The Vatican’s intended audience is not only individual Roman Catholics, but also non-Catholic doctors, scientists, medical researchers and legislators who might consider regulating stem cell research and other recent developments in biomedical technology.
If you think my indignation at calling teenage girls tramps is bogus then you are one stupid mofo. Indignition doesn't even begin to describe how I feel about attacking young women.
None of this Obama merch can EVER top the Jimmy Carter roach clip: a plastic peanut with Jimmy's grin (attached to the standard yet handy aligator clip, of course).
I agree Flatus -- Ziggy is insufferable. And I don't know when Scarborough decided to jump back on the "W" train. For a while he bashed him....now he's the go-to apologist.
patsi, this one is different and any 3 yr olders that i know would happily listen to the u.s. tax code if read to by a lovable fun to be with granny like you.
the flap describes it as "a story about a lump of coal who can think, talk, and move itself around." on the back: "Miracles can happen, even to those who are small, flammable, and dressed all in black."
see pix of lump http://www.harpercollins.com/books/9780061574283/The_Lump_of_Coal/index.aspx
"Indignition" seems to be where someone might stick a busted key to turn a rather low powered motor over and over and over again... all in the name of never getting anywhere in life.
O the joys of turning life's wheel and feeling the car move, eh, Patsi?
It went a long way to explain Mika. She kept saying, now you know what it was like growing up with him. Maybe all those little girl giggles when daddy is on the show is defensive behavior.
Of course if her sweaters get any tighter, she might as well arrive nude.
Thanks---Roland Burris--I have always liked him,,he will know how to get re-elected,,,,and will get help from our Mayor in order to do so,,I think... Where have you been hiding out at?
from reading the bio, sounds like burris has publically served and campaigned enough to have had all the requisite rocks looked under and questions asked and answered.
"Medvedev may wait until Putin loses his popularity as the economy worsens by the day and dismiss him," independent political analyst Dmitry Oreshkin was quoted by online Gazeta.ru as saying. - In a New Year's wish to President-elect Barack Obama, Medvedev suggested the two nations could expand their cooperation on the basis of "pragmatism and a balance of interests."
No but their ditzy parents who name the child and then sell the photos for multi thousands of dollars are.
BTW, here are the most notable celebrity flights from sanity of the celebrity naming game. Apple is probably okay, but Fifi Trixibelle and Pilot Inspektor?
".....he looks like a perennial candidate, albeit one who has only been elected once."
flatus, funny how two people, reading the same data, can come away with such different views. i was impressed that burris was elected statewide and served 11 yrs as comptroller and 4 more as ag (rare for an aa at a that time). so he was beaten by the daily machine.... who hasn't been?
it can't be comforting to Obama to know that as a man who smokes, he's 23 times more likely to get lung cancer than a man who doesn't smoke. Taxpayers will foot his medical bills.
Obama recently drew headlines when he described the more than 3,000 Americans killed in Iraq since 2003 as wasted lives. (He subsequently apologized.) But he should know that about 600,000 Americans have died of lung cancer during the four years of the Iraq war -- almost all of them because of smoking.
On the Huffpo bit. Just one more shot in the decades long diatribe against the Clintons created by the right and believed and adopted by the left. Teach them to serve their nation. At least they will get to bring down the ball on New Year's Eve.
I'm glad you are online Ed...I wanted to ask you about Peter King's potential at a Senate run in New York. Would he have a shot at taking that Senate seat next time out?
CBob, You have an ally in Senor Horsedooty. I'll help half the time. The man makes me crazy with his racist rants and then he will say something sensible such as fighting terrorism being a police and investigative matter not a war.
That Onion piece is hilarious, Jamie. Although I will give my ex credit -- one day in the early 70s he was in a record store and this album was playing. He brought it home thinking I'd love it...and he was right on the money.
I'm far from an expert, but that's never stopped me from offering an opinion. Peter King is as visible as any Republican in the state right now, but even saying that, I'd bet 75% of the upstate voters don't know who he is, or anything about him. Certainly, Giuliani is a bigger name, but he's more apt to seek the Governor's Mansion than the Senate seat and I haven't seen or heard anything about him, since long before Election Day.
As blue as New York has been in recent presidential elections, there are still many upstate counties that have historically been Republican strongholds. (I live in one of them.) Also, we have had long serving Republican Senators in Al D'amato and Jacob Javits, so it's not beyond the realm of possibility for someone like Congressman King to have a shot.
He seems to have a talent for being both abrasive and either likable or reasonable at the same time. In case you haven't noticed it on this blog, abrasive plays well in New York City. Not so much in my part of the world.
King is definitely smart to get his name out there early and to take free shots at Carolyn Kennedy or anyone else, who might be considered by Governor Paterson.
If the person Paterson appoints, gets out there and works as hard as Senator Clinton did, and appears to be effective, King may decide to stay right where he is. If the appointee stumbles, or appears to be less than ambitious, King will be ready to shake a lot of hands and eat a lot of chicken in upstate New York, and he'll definitely have a fighting chance at the seat.
Jamie; 1:34 pm ........................."Indignation = Mob Hit", that is truly funny, or maybe you just have to be as cynical as I am........... I need your help, I'm so damn computer illiterate, that I don't know how to add a link to a picture or card, can you help me out?
Interesting thoughts, Ed....maybe the only thing that concerns me about Caroline is the possibility that she may take the appointment, then not really like actually running for office and open the door for an aggressive campaigner like King. (I'm pretty sure Caroline wouldn't be fighting Schumer for the television cameras....)
About the Christmas truce here, thank-you all for holding your keyboards. I didn't think you'd all do it, but you did. We really had a bit of peace and good words here.
For those that really don't know me. A bit of back ground.
It was on this thread many moons ago, that I said :
"Thank You Keith Olberman"
Note to the reader-
I was 57 when iI taught myself how to throw up web pages, and I did it right here. Fritz taught me hyper-links here on this thread.
So , I don't shoot blanks on the web folks.
And I'm telling you, that Lou Dobbs must go !
Thank-You Keith Olberman -
Now has 33,488 hits when I got this link today, and ToledoNative has run it for nearly as long ...... and done it well I might add. ToledoNative where ever you are, an "Atta Boy or Girl" to you for each and every post. we may have to start a new one for our friend Mr. Olberman.
He needs work. And he needs it now.
Yes, someone suggested the other day that Caroline may be running because it's what her Uncle Ted wanted. If that's her primary motivation, she's not likely to be a good senator. That is, unless she just happens to be one of those super-motivated kids who jumps in with both feet for any challenge.
Chuck Shumer will always be there when any camera is rolling or hot microphone is available, but just because of who she is, Caroline will get as much news exposure as she's willing to handle.
Right now, Peter King is hoping Caroline gets the nod because he thinks his experience will trump her name. I'm hoping that in two years, we'll be able to say, "Peter, you should have been careful what you wished for."
Caroline needs to get in the Senate now. That way, she'll always have seniority over Chris Matthews, IF he makes it.
Yes -- I posted that Uncle Ted theory, because someone who ought to know told me that he had pushed her on it. (Not in any bad way, I should say -- I believe he really wants the line to continue and thinks she'd do a great job. And she certainly might.)
Boy I do hope Chris Matthews goes down in flames if he runs in a primary. He sends no thrill up my leg.
Agree. What was that about. She was grilling him as if he had been charged with bribing a public official. Burris may be a go along to get along political type but he didn't deserve that grilling or insulting tone.
See folks, as Lou Dobbs was putting up his felony based climate experts, before he took his 2 week Christmas vacation.
I got a RECORD EVENT REPORT from the National Weather Service. This came to my house this fall :
RECORD EVENT REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LUBBOCK, TX
230 AM CDT FRI SEP 12 2008
...RECORD DAILY MAXIMUM RAINFALL SET AT LUBBOCK...
A RECORD RAINFALL OF 7.46 INCHES WAS SET AT LUBBOCK YESTERDAY...
SEP 11...THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 2.64 SET IN 1917. IT ALSO
BREAKS THE ALL-TIME CALENDAR DAY RECORD OF 5.70 INCHES SET ON JUNE 1
1967...AND IT BREAKS THE ALL-TIME 24-HOUR RAINFALL RECORD OF 5.82
INCHES SET ON OCTOBER 18 AND 19 1983.
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Except, .... it rained more at my house, ( 8 1/2 in. in 24 hrs.)
I have seen 3 rain fall events here, at Lubbock, Texas at my house, that are each a "one off" events. And I've seen them in the last 21 months.
7.46 INCHES in 24 hours belongs in the Amazon, not Lubbock, Texas.
"Agree. What was that about. She was grilling him as if he had been charged with bribing a public official. Burris may be a go along to get along political type but he didn't deserve that grilling or insulting tone."
I know, Jamie. I was embarrassed by the way she came at him. And as far as I could tell, it wasn't even supposed to be her interview.
Just in case anyone wants to know why health care is draining families and taxpayers....because it's not really "health" care....
Just had a call from someone who had to fly east to be with his 90-something grandmother. Over a year and a half ago she had a stroke (it was the least of her medical problems) -- but a neighbor found her barely alive and the med techs electrocuted her back to life. Since that time her quality of life has been terrible. My friend says hundreds of thousands of dollars have now been spent to keep her in an absolutely horrible state, something she had never wanted but had never translated into a legal statement. Her home has now been sold to keep moving her from one facility to another. One of the few things she's said was to the friend who found her -- "Why did you call 911?"
Philip J Berg has a new lawsuit challenging Obama’s eligibility:
"Berg today, with co-counsel Lawrence J. Joyce, Esquire, filed another lawsuit in Federal Court in the United States District for the District of Columbia on behalf of Retired Colonel Hollister against Barry Soetoro a/k/a Barack Hussein Obama demanding to know Obama’s real name and if he is constitutionally qualified to be President. Plaintiff, Gregory S. Hollister, is a resident of Colorado Springs, Colorado and Hollister has “standing” and needs a decision so he knows whether or not to follow any Order of Soetoro a/k/a Obama.
The suit is in the nature of an Interpleader that shifts the burden of proof to the Defendants, Soetoro a/k/a Obama and Biden to show that they are “qualified” for office."
I am not answering for Colorado Bob, but for me, Dobbs is the most devious. Network cable show on CNN. Makes it look the most respectable. Hannity has a cable show also but he is on Fox and that in and of itself is suspect.
Jamie; 5:50 pm ...................... Thanks so Much but I surely must be dense, everything works until I "right click" in the comment box, the menu shows, but paste will not come up. Any thoughts ??? BTW, I didn't like that "plate commercial" either, maybe it's just me, but
it seems to cheapen the process.
The living will is important, but even more so for emergency situations is the POLST (Physician Orders for Life Sustaining Treatment). You can get a copy from your physician. Make sure that doctor has a signed copy, that you have a copy in your papers, and that anyone likely to be making decisions on your behalf has a copy. Some hospitals will keep them on file as well or you can hand it to them any time you have to go to the hospital for anything.
It is a DETAILED list of treatment to be given under a variety of circumstances if you are not able to speak for yourself.
For example, I've chosen moderate intervention (feeding tubes, oxygen etc.) as long as recovery can be practically expected, but if not send me to a hospice, make me as comfy with drugs as possible and leave me alone.
Physicians are legally required to adhere to the signed and witnessed POLST
Doots -- I take your point. But I think Rush Limbaugh has actually altered the landscape of America. I know people who have completely changed outlook and personality because of listening to him. And just look how insidious HE is -- all that Oxycontin, and we're still talking about some woman with a few pills in Alaska....Rush got a pass.
Rita, If you're still having problems, here is a you tube video that shows you how to copy and paste. Which is what you're doing when you copy that address bar (which is called the url address) of the page you want to link to from here.
The list is too darn long. I'll try and find some of the worst for you. Hannity is among the greatest offenders for total absence of factual content even to the extent of news people at FOX broadcasting news that he then contradicts with on his show.
Just because he is asking questions about the Chosen One, doesn't make them lies. He did sit in rev. wright's church for over 20years, he was and probably still is friends with a man who bombed buildings in the United States (Ayers). And, he hasn't been in the Senate long enough to do anything but vote PRESENT. those are not lies, those are truths. Like it or not Obama, has alot of skeltons in his closet. And, was did it always take him so long to come out against, someone or something from his past?
Someone took the time to write down some of the worst in 2004. Nothing has changed, but I'll try to find something more current. He regularly uses quotes out of context and twists what was said. Since there is no one to correct him except other shows, it often sounds reasonable.
Lampe your sense of humor truly surpasses mine......after all you say you supported Hillary Clinton for president and you think fox news is fair and balanced.....
THAT'S funny......
First off, I did and still do support HRC. After the lousy way in which she was treated, by her own Party, and the way CNN was kisssing Obama's Butt. I got pissed off at the whole bunch of them. These are a few of the people who kissed his butt the most. Martin, Matthews,Blitzer,Madcow,Brazile,Cooper And last but not least Olbermann. They are the main reason I sought out people who were not totally in Love with The chosen One.
I have been a Democrat, for as long as I could vote. Just because I don't like the candidate they picked for me, doesn't make me any less a Democrat. You all sit here and say Republicans are stupid for supporting their candidates. So if they are stupid for that what does that make a Democrat, who will support the wrong person just because he is a Democrat?
"What is even scarier is that people believe the single sentence and don't bother to find the source or what she meant, just keep passing around the twisted negative."
So much has been twisted and BS'd this time out that I wouldn't know where to start. The REAL scary part is that the people who are too stupid to check things out are more widely found than you think. For example....how many of you think that the things Tina Fey said were not written by comedy writers?
There was the one bit where Fey used Palins actual words, but the rest was comedy writers exagerating on her comments.
Of course, some of the Palin remarks were very revealing of someone with little curiosity and less education, but she knew how to rouse the rabble , was a good speaker, and sold all the knee jerk talking points really well.
The NEWS part of FOX as opposed to their morning crowd and commentators actually did a good job of presenting the candidates fairly while CNN leaned left and MSNBC totally dove in the tank for Obama
Unfortunately, the commentators are so biased and badly researched and ignorant as to make the news suspect.
Which is why I watch the BBC to find out what is going on in the world.
I found the actual New Yorker article, gave you all a link, described the passage and you still go to one of the word twisters to turn the remark into something Michelle Obama never meant.
Let's try this again. Here is the "mean" quote. It is on page three of a ten page article. If you are going to damn the woman, at least get to know her first.
" If you are going to damn the woman, at least get to know her first."
I am certain Patsi believes in this but there are some here who enjoy taking shots at Bristol Palin or making fun of the Palin family names.
I don't think that the Discovery channel is the best one out of them all---they do come up with some good programing.
The "100 greatest discoveries" Origin-and evolution of life is my fav.---let me know when you see this so I don't post it again, I'll find the others if you like...enjoy.----get your feet off that table---now ;-)
See, here's my problem with that. I don't know that it's a valid assessment. And I don't know the educational background of people who question Palin's education. Don't know grade point averages, class schedules, many, many things.
"Washington’s Secretary of State claims he has no duty to determine if a presidential candidate is even an American citizen running under his legal name. Yet, there is not a single document in the public record available for inspection that could establishes as a matter of law that Obama is 1) a natural born citizen of the United States; 2) an American citizen; or 3) that his legal name is Barack Obama. …
We stated a claim in mandamus. The Secretary claims that we have the burden of establishing that Obama is not qualified to assume the office! We have proved that Obama did not establish that he was a “natural born citizen” of the United States at the time of the election. He has not produced a single piece of credible evidence that he is an American citizen, let alone a natural born citizen, and he has not produced any document showing a change of his legal name from Barry Soetoro to Barack Hussein Obama. "
Let try it again---that link won't hook up with the page I want to send u to-------In the search box---type in----Bill Nye---then scroll down,,some good subjects to listen to,,,,very informative
I didn't think I was ridiculing, just coming up with other TR names they could use. A bit of silliness nothing more. A joke may not be a good one. That doesn't mean the intent was evil. If you look back I didn't use the name calling possibilities.
I happen to think that Palin probably is a pretty good mother. I don't think she is even moderately qualified for public office.
" happen to think that Palin probably is a pretty good mother. I don't think she is even moderately qualified for public office."
Here's what I don't get. (Or maybe I do -- and if I am right, then God help women candidates...)
I don't "get" that this blog is "chat-chat-chatting" about children's names when there are so many other issues at hand. And then question Sarah Palin's intelligence?
Actually -- if anyone cares to question a REAL issue -- what about the news report I just heard...many electric bills in Nashville this month are at least double what they were last month. Holy crap.
Has anybody noticed that the worse the economy gets, the more we take the hit? One person on c-span said it perfectly today....the government is throwing the life preservers to the people in the boats, not the ones in the water.
Just wait until next week---no more hiding behind the Holidays,,,,reality is gonna hit a lot of people real hard,,,,my electric bill is down a little,I don't have anything on until we need it---power off the pc ---tv,,,don't have any kitchen appliances on unless they are being used,,,,but this is all easy for me I live in a Cave---haha -- nite kiddo
"I don't 'get' that this blog is 'chat-chat-chatting' about children's names when there are so many other issues at hand. And then question Sarah Palin's intelligence?"
Well stated Patsi, from some comments here because Palin did not go to an Ivy League school she is a dummy. It's the women that are hardest on the women--oh the irony!
Palin isn't unqualified because she is a woman. She is unqualified because she lacks intellectual curiosity, speaks in nothing but soundbites, takes positions so far right as to fall off a flat earth.
She would be unqualified if she were male. That opinion has nothing to do with her gender.
As far as the "chat chat chat" is concerned, this place has always been a mixture of issue information, general conversation, music, trivial silliness, and politics. Indulging in one doesn't mean you can't participate in all the rest.
Talking about cute things children say about their anatomy is just as valid a human interaction as a discussion of Middle East history.
If it had nothing to do with her gender then why demonize her instead of the many Republican fools in the race? Oh, you bet it was gender. And every "Caribou Barbie" comment proved it.
What you don't get is that it all translates to women's wages. Every snarky gender-based Caribou Barbie comment ends up in paltry women's paychecks. Sad but true. Barbie Bucks.
Just as many jokes were made about "who let the dogs out" crosses on bookcases, and noun verb and 9/11 about male candidates during the primaries.
The only reason she got more is because she was the nominee and she turned in such a poor performance on the issues that she deserved to be ridiculed as a caricature not a serious political candidate.
There were any number of intelligent, well educated, politically aware, and principled Republican women McCain could have chosen. I might not have agreed with them, but I wouldn't think they were tossed into the campaign just to have a pretty female face on the buttons.
Palin is the kind of woman who makes it harder for other women trying to make strides in business. She acted like a Barbie doll and got called one.
"In Washington state's Broe v. Reed case, however, plaintiff's attorney Stephen Pidgeon says a unique state statute grants everyday citizens the required standing.
"These lawsuits have pointed their fingers at the various secretaries of state and said, 'You handle the elections, it's your job [to verify Obama's eligibility],'" Stephen Pidgeon told WND, "and the secretaries of state have said, 'No, it's not our job. You the voter have to prove he was ineligible.' But when the voters try to do it, the courts tell them they have no standing. So it presents a catch-22.
"Here, we have standing by means of statute," Pidgeon continued. "This particular statute provides for any registered voter to challenge the election of a candidate if the candidate at the time of the election was ineligible to hold office."
HRC,lost because the DNC,decide to stab HER in the back. Remarks, were made about her hair, her pantsuits,her tears, and her lack of tears. I did not hear one remark being made about anything any of the male candidates wore, their haircuts or anything else. Now maybe that doesn't count as sexism to some, but to me it sure as HELL stinks of sexism.
I for the life of me can't understand how people can call Gov. Palin a failure, or how she makes it harder for any woman to make strides? She was a Mayor, and is still a Governor. Not many women make it that far. Or for that fact not many men either. And, you all think Caroline Kennedy, has more to offer. What job, as she ever worked? She probably has more money then God. So she worked to make schools better, and she wrote a book. I guess now a days writing a book or two, can not only help you get elected to The Senate, but it can also get you elected POTUS.
Jamie, Chloe; .................. You don't know how much I appreciate your help, but there must be a problem with my programming because I get the menu down in the comment box, but the options - some are lit and some are pale - well "paste" is pale and I can't get it to light . So I'll just have to settle for WISHING One and All a Happy, Healthy, Prosperous NEW Year.
and what a year 2008 was.... drought-stricken, blown away, shaken-up, melted, down the drain and snowed in at the airport.
just a few more hours. what more can happen?
just a few more days of you-know-who. what more rath can he wrought?
We all heard the same thing as you. We know Michelle said America is mean. You can easily pull up tapes and articles on the internet proving it, in the same way others pull up tapes on Fox and Hannity lies. But you don't need to do that, because we all know it happened.
It sounds like you haven't worked your way through this yet, but many others used to feel the same way that you do. I will never go back to watching MSNBC either, and it is laughable to me to hear others say that they are reputable and others channels are not. They're all the same, except some have a different goal than others, a different agenda. If 'fair and balanced' is so funny to say about FOX, then it is every bit as hilarious to say about MSNBC.
When some ridicule what you say, they are simply trying to throw you off balance. You don't have to explain yourself to anyone, unless you want to.
The real Puma's are the one's that think they won.
I get the menu down in the comment box, but the options - some are lit and some are pale - well "paste" is pale and I can't get it to light . So I'll just have to settle for WISHING One and All a Happy, Healthy, Prosperous NEW YEAR!"
Rita, If the menu isn't showing paste, then you probably didn't get the copy done correctly. Instead of right clicking, you can also go to the Edit menu at the top left of your page. You highlight what you want to copy in blue (the video explained how to highlight by running your cursor over it, then go to edit at top of page and left click it. Once you get down to the comment box, do what you always do to post, but go up to edit and click paste. If paste isn't highlighted, then you didn't get your copy done correctly.
Copying the address from top of page you want to link, make sure the whole line gets highlighted, from http: all the way across. It must still be blue when you left click your copy tab.
I know you can do this. Just take your time and keep trying. I taught myself to use the computer by using the help menu and also you can search for any questions there are, and many will post articles to help you.
Please ask as many questions here as you need to, because we all went through the same thing when we started out. Don't give up!
et, and some comity to go along with your commonality wish for us all. get well dear tm friend.
co·mi·ty
1 a: friendly social atmosphere : social harmony b: a loose widespread community based on common social institutions c: comity of nations d: the informal and voluntary recognition by courts of one jurisdiction of the laws and judicial decisions of another
2: avoidance of proselytizing members of another religious denomination
Thirty Years Ago: Ali And Foreman Rumbled In The Jungle
10.29.04 - By Frank Lotierzo - GlovedFist@Juno.com - Thirty years ago on the morning of October 30th 1974, Muhammad Ali 44-2 (32) was just hours away from entering the ring to challenge undisputed heavyweight champion George Foreman 40-0 (37). The fight with Foreman represented more than just a chance for him to become the second former heavyweight champ to regain the title. A victory over Foreman meant validation and redemption for Ali.
By October 1974, seven years had passed since Ali was stripped of his heavyweight title for refusing Induction into the U.S. Army on April 28th 1967. After the then Cassius Clay defeated Sonny Liston in February of 1964 to capture the heavyweight title, he announced that he was a member of the Nation of Islam, and was adopting the name Cassius X. Two weeks later he was given the name Muhammad Ali by Elijah Muhammad the leader of the Nation of Islam. From that point on, Ali was a marked man by the so called establishment, and viewed as someone dangerous and capable of in sighting a race war between Whites and Blacks.
After a 43 month forced exile from boxing, Ali returned to the ring. In the four years in between his comeback fight with Jerry Quarry in October 1970, up to his title fight with George Foreman in October 1974, Ali fought for the title once, and went 12-2 in 14 fights.
Sturg, I, and my hooch mates, held Clay in the utmost contempt because of his shenanigans with his draft board (this was before all the other stuff happened.) We figured if Elvis could serve, Clay could as well. There was no racial component to our indignition.
Good morning. I see it got a little hot in here last night. Glad I went to bed early to rest up for my 5 days off. Whoppee. The down side of my time off is now I have time to work on all these projects I see stacked up around me.
Chloe, I used to be glued to MSNBC. I emailed several atta boys to Keith O. Then he turned his ire from Bush to Hillary. I tried to write and tell him what I thought about that and my emails came back with some error message. I stopped watching. A couple of nights ago I tried to watch him again and just couldn't. He now turns my stomach.
During the campaign I did tune in to Fox, when before I wouldn't be caught dead watching it. They did, at that time, seem more fair and balanced. I can't do Hannity or O'Reilly.
btw, I don't watch Hannity or O'Reilly either. I've pretty much stopped watching all cable news. What good is being informed, when you're hearing a 'version' of what's going on.
If you haven't lined up a dark haired man, a bottle of scotch, a lump of coal, a loaf of bread and the lyrics to Auld Lang Syne, get a move on you are running out of time.
Why is Morning Joe doing a rerun? MSNBC being budget conscious and short handed is silly. They must have an intern they could throw on the air or something.
Big snow day in upstate NY, so I've been talking about the weather and drive in with my co-workers as they show up. I walk to work, so as long as I can stay above my shoes, my trips are usually uneventful.
I really don't know anything about Louise Slaughter and only know of Carolyn Maloney since her name was bandied about as a possible candidate for Hillary's seat. I've read that Maloney has "paid her dues," but Governor Paterson has two "stars" in Andrew Cuomo and Caroline. In New York, star power usually trumps experience, so I'd say they are both long shots.
The one dark horse that interests me is Bob Kerrey. Apparently, there's some sort of a palace coup taking place at the New School, so he may give Paterson a way around choosing between Caroline and Andrew. Name Kerrey now, then let all who are interested duke it out for the 2010 nomination.
Personally, I'd rather see Kerrey stay and fight the academicians, but the fact is that even if he wins that battle, he'll probably be in a weakened position, so moving on now is probably a smarter choice.
New Yorker of the Year:
Hillary Clinton proved a woman of resolve and class
"The most powerful woman in the world.
So Hillary Clinton will become with the dawn of a new White House. Madam Secretary of State. A strong hand in a velvet glove, extended to the globe on behalf of the most anticipated presidency in generations.
Short of Barack Obama, no American today has a greater opportunity to shape international history than does New York’s departing junior U.S. senator.
Jamie if a dark haired man passes the threshold of my home after midnight tonight I fear it wouldn't be a good omen. More likely someone just broke out of jail.
"Why is Morning Joe doing a rerun? MSNBC being budget conscious and short handed is silly. They must have an intern they could throw on the air or something."
I also don't understand all the re-running/constantly airing of prison programming...I despise those shows.
Wow, Ed -- I just read a bit about the New School situation. I guess this article could have been titled "Students Chase One-Legged Man Down the Street."
One more post: this story ought to give anyone getting a tattoo pause. Lark Previn, daughter of Mia Farrow and Andre Previn, has died. It is being speculated that she contracted the AIDS virus from a dirty tattoo needle.
For some of our more dedicated drinkers, here is the world clock sorted by time zone. Hurry up, they've already had New Years and it is Thursday in Australia and Hong Kong
talk about re-runs.....USA network........New Year's Eve.....they are running the movie "Elf"........all day long......24 hours of "Elf"...........all day......all night......merry "Elf".
I guess I'll have to go back and see what happened last night. Patsi, thanks for wasting your breath (and OSH, you might as well ask crap not to stink) - KC did it for a while, I did it for a while, in fact many have (most have left) and the frickin' Energizer Bunny of juvenile put downs and one liners just keeps going and going and... Anyway, Jamie and Patsi have my undying gratitude.
And Flatus, a lot of folks in the US felt Clay was just using the CO status of NoI to avoid the draft - I saw it as a possibility, but I didn't condemn him for it - that was a growing movement back then, and if Freedom of religion means anything, it should mean the government respects the CO status that results from a religion based rejection of war. I did see a bit of a disconnect between a man who made his living fighting other people claiming he couldn't fight on behalf of his country because his religion forbade it, but he wasn't trying to kill anyone and but hey, what did I know about NoL tenets? Damned little. I heard similar criticism of members of the Quaker faith - generally from people who knew damned little about it as well. But then, I wasn't clamoring to get to vietnam, either. Just curious, did you hold the same contempt for people who took academic deferments? Or was this just a case of believing CC was manipulating the suystem by conveniently canging religions to avoid the draft?
Sturg, LP was watching Elf this morning while he was gobbling down his oatmeal - I watched about 3 minutes of it while I was chatting with the boy. That was enough for me - at the risk of drawing fire, I think Will Farrell is a decent comic actor - in very small doses - but won't be rememebered as one of the giants of the genre.
The real fight was Ali and Sonny Liston. Liston learned to fight in prison. He beat the crap outta people in prison. He was a feared man. When Ali decided to fight him, people thought he would get killed. Ali did something nobody expected, he taunted Liston as often as he possibly could. Liston could not understand this. In prison and in boxing everybody feared him, but Ali didn't. They said in prison, the only people guys like Liston feared were guys who were crazy. Liston started to think that Ali was crazy. Ali ended up winning the fight and shocking the world.
From my perspective, there doesn't seem to be a good outcome. Blago undoubtedly has the legal power to appoint Obama's successor. And anyone he appoints will be under a cloud. And I'm not sure Reid has the authority under the Constitution to refuse to seat Burris. And now Cornyn agrees with Reid (of course he just wants an election an IL repug can enter and vie for the seat). It just goes to show what I think about Reid is confirmed once again - the guy hasn't got a clue about leading - and his hip has to be sore from shooting from it so often.
Solar, You did not make a mistake by being on this blog. There is a reason you showed up here, and you've made it a better place with your presence. If you need to say something, then do it. Otherwise, what's the point? Craig has said repeatedly that there are very few rules.
Happy New Year! And you'd better stick around. Tony warned you already.
You're right, Pogo -- ain't no easy way out on this one. Looks like the Dems should be looking for a way to save face right now, because legally, Burris is the appointee. And it's true --so far Blago is still presumed innocent. (I keep wondering what "real" evidence Fitzgerald has....hope he didn't jump the gun.)
Without some judicial exercise, like it or not, Blagojavitch is the Governor of the State. As such, he has the right to make the appointment and Burris is the Senator.
The only way out would be to do a change in the Illinois Constitution and take the power away from the governor, or to let Burris serve but immediately call for a special election to replace him.
Just because you think Blago is a crook doesn't mean you can throw out the law.
I agree with your post just now about having to respect the law. But if Blago was anything close to a true statesman -- as opposed to a self-serving egomaniac -- he could have solved this easily by following the Constitution and and still achieving the goal of "Illinois representation in the U.S. Senate."
The solution: Ask a panel of senior elected state officials (Democratic legislative leaders, Democratic cabinet members, however you want to define the group) to simply nominate a candidate for Blago to appoint. No veto power, no questions asked. That gets you the untainted appointee that everyone wants, and Blago is still the one making the appointment. Problem solved.
But you can't do that when the governor has chosen to use the power he derives from the people simply as a weapon to defend his own political career at all costs. It is the absolute height of cynicism. And don't let's even get started on the race card.
The law is always written in hopes that the majority will obey it. If you try to design it to cover every weasel likely to abuse and wiggie in such a way as to avoid consequences, you destroy freedom for everyone.
Your solution assumes that Blago is a reasonable man willing to accept compromise when we already know that he is a self serving SOB.
What bothers me is that Burris who seems to have lived an honorable life or service to the community is allowing himself to be used in this fashion.
It's the pits, but Burris is in until an election (special or scheduled) can be held.
LL, sorry, that horse is already out of the barn. I don't for a second think that Reid's preemptive rejection of Blago's (excellent IMHO) appointment - what's that old saying? Act (or something) in haste, repent at leisure - had a shred of a racial motive, but Blago shrewdly put that into play. But leave it to our Dem leadership to find a way to screw up anything they have an opportunity to. What's Reid's alternative? Leave the seat unfilled until the current term expires? Sounds like shooting one's self in the foot to me. Hold a special election? Expensive, legally suspect, and that leaves the seat vacant during the firs 4-6 months of the Obama administration - precisely when the Dems will need every vote they can muster to try and advance Obama's legislative initiatives. Yep, Reid's drawn a line in the sand - only he drew it as a box around himself, and may have created a minor constitutional showdown to boot.. Couldn't he see that coming? JHC!
Jamie, Patsi, we reach common ground, again. Go figure.
The appointment had little to do with Blago fulfilling his duty as Gov. I could just see the wheels turning under his arrogant hair. Oh, how to parlay this into a career move, a book deal, a TV movie starring Charlie Sheen...?
Uh, oh. If this happens, looks like I'll be facing moving to satellite and scaling back to basic cable - just so I can keep network channels and RoadRunner. If I haven't said I hate Time Warner before - I HATE Time Warner. I'll pay the friggin' $.23. - hell, make it an even buck if they have to. At their cable rates, who would even notice?
"Reid's drawn a line in the sand - only he drew it as a box around himself, and may have created a minor constitutional showdown to boot.. Couldn't he see that coming? JHC!"
Does anyone know any details about Comcast ownership or management? When you come to the main page that lists news stories, the headlines seem to be quite slanted even when the story it links to is fairly well balanced. I wondered if it was management or some sort of headline feed.
blue, whether Blago did it TO fulfull his constitutional duty or not, he has the power to make that appointment under the Illinois Constitution. Arrogance and a criminal charge - not yet followed by as much as an indictment - do not remove that obligation. And please, can anyone deny that Fitz was doing everything he could to get the spotlight on himself and to convict Blago in the press and the mind of the public when he had the federal jackboots drag himinto t squad car at the crack of dawn in front of the cameras and went before the cameras to make sure EVERYONE knew about Blago's phone calls?
Don't misunderstand - Blago may indeed be guilty of a crime - frankly I don't know, although I'm betting he is eventually convicted of something - and he's definitely guilty of gross stupidity - but that's a different issue for a different day and in a different forum.
"Blago undoubtedly has the legal power to appoint Obama's successor."
pogo, i agree because if he doesn't have the legal power for that, he doesn't have it for any other official action (like signing bills, admin decisions, pardoning, etc.) that he is taking and has been taking since it hit the fan. if he did lose the power, at what point in time did he lose this power? when arrested? the date of the tapes? the day when reid said his pick would not be seated?
you better believe there's some power hungry prosecutor, less scrupulous than fitz, out there drooling in wait for his chance to instantly unseat/dethrone his particular elected official.
Pogo, the events I recalled were in 1962, or the latest, 1963, i.e., before we had any significant involvement in Vietnam; that came in 1965 although Tonkin was in 1964.
My memory says that his pleas to the draft board centered around his being intellectually deficient--that he simply was too dumb to be inducted. Note that I didn't say fight--we weren't fighting anybody at that time.
It wasn't until he lost all his appeals based on stupidity that Clay decided to get religion. Up until that point I considered him a scumbag. After his embracing of religion, I considered him a religious scumbag.
You asked about educational deferments. Consider this. Most people having the deferments would end up being officers. I didn't want officers who felt they were too good to lead enlisted swine into battle; at the time, there were plenty of real men willing to lead others when their country demanded that duty of them. Of course, I'm disparaging such people as Cheney who sought never-ending deferral.
I am for the Senate refusing to seat Burris. I do not believe this should preclude him from being appointed at a later date when the mess is resolved. I think Lardo's idea is the BEST I have heard, and it's too bad that Governor EGO cannot show even a moment's humility by acting like a person who really wants to put integrity above personal ambition. It's a sorry sight and he really should be ashamed.
Pogo, regardless, it is my understanding that the U.S. Senate can refuse to seat a member if they deem it appropriate. I do feel that Obama has Reid's backside covered by once again saying that the appointment should not go through. He made it clear it wasn't about Burris and it wasn't about race; it was about the morally bankrupt Governor who still thinks he has done nothing wrong and will not own up to the political realities that confront him.
Flatus, My parents always said the same thing. Cassius Clay became a muslim just to get out of the Military... I was too young to know but I suspect what you say contains a large amount of truth.
ET, that understanding of yours is the subject of fairly vigorous debate amond constitutional law scholars aas we speak - the refusal to seat a member has to be based on constitutional authority or Senate Rules since those are the exclusive sources of the senate's power to act. All this constitutional law stuff can be pretty complicated, and isnot necessarily intuitive. It will be fleshed out in detail in the coming weeks I expect. As it is right now, Reid's opinion, whether backed by Obama (who, BTW has NO legal power to approve or disapprove the appointment either as senator vacating the seat, PEOTUS or POTUS) is the proverbial "opinion" (whose analo is "asshole")
Well, I gotta go. Keep it legal and between the lines, and avoid the idiots on the roads tonight - they'll be out there.
Dang it all Solar, don't leave. I understand how you feel. Have felt bad that I haven't posted much this week because I wanted to say the following:
Glad to see you back Solar and do you make tamales for the holidays?, Bethy- Happy Birthday!! , Jamie,- your growing kitties are adorable! Tony, I'm so glad you had a marvelous Christmas! Corey, Am thinking of you and your family this holiday season. Cbob- great tunes! Patsi and Chloe- I love you two!! Sturge- thanks as always!
I wondered where Jack was, but figured he was doing the same as me, just lurking, trying to avoid any conflict this week and enjoy the holidays., It is simply toxic at times. I broke my resolve and posted this morning - just couldn't stand by and watch people being abused any longer. I agree with you , there are some fine people here and yet one of the most despicable and miserable souls that I have ever come across. Just the same, the friendship of all the others outweigh his negativity although sometimes it is just about impossible to keep that in mind. So now that you know that many want you to stay put, please do. I got your back and so do others. We'll figure this out somehow. Besides , we can't be leaving Craig all alone here reduced to a blog of one!!
Whew! Do you feel better Champ? My glasses got fogged up.
Hope you are all stocked up on your cabbage and black-eyed peas. Walmart was sold out of black-eyed peas. It happens every year and you would think they or me, would plan ahead.
Now why is it that we have to eat those foods? Besides gas what are we supposed to get? I am sure you know Jamie.
Im still thinking about your tattoo post from this morn-----I don't have any tattoo's , none of the males in our family do---I dont think----but a few of the nieces do,,,they are very nice kids to boot,,,,what makes a woman get one or as in some cases, more than one?,,,,The Obvious answer is Hollywood---but they know the diff-between real and not real.
Re: Blagojevich ---friends(moderate Dems) in Dupage County (very big Republican cty) tell me that they can't keep the neighbors from sneering and telling them that there is no diff between the two.......I like Blago when he ran for Gov,,,and even when he looked like he made a few mistakes,,,,,cos he came from very humble beginings ,,,some here are saying that t he influence of his wife is what changed him---me I say you can't change anyone's character,,,,he just hid the bad one that he had pretty good for a while,,,,,,It looks like its all about money with him,,,so Im inclined to believe as does the person that said he is looking how to make $ out of all of this...I like the Sheen family --if any one of them make star in his movie----I won't
Choe
More things in common---I don't watch msnbc at all,,I tried cos off Craig----but can't ,,,at certain times,CNN for the financial news,,,I look forward to Christine Amanpoure's new show that she will have,,,do like Rich Sanchez,,,but otherwise not much cable news either ----another is learning the computer,,,it took time but like Cheyenne I can get stubborn also---and managed to learn a new trick,,,,can I get an apple too??
Rita---Chlo is right don't give up,,,,my computer once asked if I could do something else, and give it frikin break-----I took threw it up against the wall,,,grabbed it by its neck shook it around a little more,,,,put it back on my desk,,,and now Im here talking with you---does have its rewards :-))
In the South, it is considered good luck to eat black-eyed peas on New Year's Day because they are thought to symbolize wealth (because they look like little coins when cooked). They also swell when they are cooked, which is another sign of prosperity. Cabbage is also an auspicious item to eat on the new year, as it's leaves can also look like cash.
Concerning the Ali/Liston fight: Malcolm X told Ali to remember the story of David vs. Goliath:
"One man who did believe in Clay was Malcolm X. On the night of Feb. 25, 1964, he followed the Liston bout as intensely as my friends and I did, but from seat "7" at the arena in Miami, a seat arranged by Clay himself. When Clay prevailed, he shocked everyone but Malcolm.
Not one to miss an opportunity, Elijah Muhammad launched a holy war for the fighter's soul before the arena had even cleared. He had all the weapons. He called Clay immediately and offered him the name "Muhammad Ali," an honorarium denied members of the Nation of much longer standing. Two weeks later he made Ali pledge to sever his relationship with Malcolm. Two days after that, on March 8, 1964, Muhammad publicly denounced Malcolm as a "hypocrite," a signal, writes Karl Evanzz in his excellent book, "The Messenger," "that hunting season was about to open for all mammals named Malcolm X." As to Ali, when asked for his reaction to the split, he muttered, "I don't know much about what Malcolm is doing, but I do know that Muhammad is the wisest." So much for loyalty." - Jack Cashill Dec. 17th, 2001 WorldNetDaily
This was something that Muhammad Ali regrets to this day.
Solar, Here's a whole bushel of apples just for you. Enjoy!
(ps I knew you weren't a quitter - I figured if you made it through those nuns, you can make it through anything) :)
I posted before looking----glad to hear from you--------Im trying to sound like you did ---and now it looks like you are trying to sound like I do...wtf HA
OSH
Thanks ---I don't know how to make tamales yet---but I will as soon as my nephew's wife let me make the ones like my sister Maria used to make----when she passe she told her that she was not to give out the directions,,unless they helped make them---she has been pregnant for the last time now (3 kids and finally a boy) and will make them with me---I even have told her that I would do all the work---she could just sit there and guide me-----but that she could not breast feed that kid in front of me----I get to blushing and all that---I hate that stuff,,,although I think that all woman should do it on a bus if that is what they want-----but they should have a special breast feeding bus ---I hvent t aken a bus for over 40 years hahah...but the tamales are so good that that well they are the best,,,,,,,and whats with that dange it language--can't u be a little more like me and Champ and tone it down hahaha
Solar- too much of a tit man eh? See, I don't think you would want me to stop from refraining- I swear like a sailor.
Happy New Year to you Corey, 2009 will be better!!
carol, wish pogo hadn't left for the day cause his alabama background might have more info on the southern new year's feast. also there are different foods for different southern folk.
i was told that the first thing you put in your mouth in the new year foretold what the rest would be like (therefore eat symbols of health and wealth) and also told to start it off humbly so that it's up hill from there on with black-eyed beans cooked with hog jowl or fatback or ham hock, greens (usually collards) hoppin' john (a delicious rice, onion, beans and ham dish) and cornbread made in an iron skillet.
i'm having the latter fare to start the year humbly.
I will be fixing Hoppin' John and cornbread as a throw back to the time I spent in Memphis. There, I usually went to a restaurant on New Year's Day that served the best black-eyed pea salad and yeast rolls. Yum.
I am also making Toll House cookies today since it has been years since I have made them. The cookie most requested from family and friends when I am baking is oatmeal chocolate chip but I have a craving for Toll House today.
I'm surprised. It is only the south that has these New Years food traditions??
Solar when you learn how to do the tamales please share. I tried once and just made a mess. We used to have this place here that made the countries best tamales. He died a while back and took the recipe with him.
It's snowing here so the natives went out sledding and I'm here in my quiet warm house baking Tollhouse too! For New Year's Day I started my own tradition (the rest of the family is down south eating hoppin john) and cook either Mexican or Greek , my two most favorite cuisines. Usually I make tamales, but don't feel like spending that much time in the kitchen. Will probably make taquitos or chilaquiles with beans & rice. Mexican drives my poor old Da crazy with the wait- he once said "No wonder Mexico is a third world country, the food takes so long to prepare who has time to work" Hope that doesn't offend anyone, it wasn't meant to.
Step by step instructions with pictures for tamales. Because they are so labor intensive, it is always best to do it as a party or with all the relatives if you plan on a large batch.
Had a girlfriend named Carol Murphy ----cool name cool girl.(she din't treat me cruel-------------)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdsDXgILDsg#)-----
..I will, share that info on the tamales, my other sisters make them with what they call Atole,,,a sweet hot drink that goes with them--they even make some pink ones (tamales) that are great for kids,,,one of my brothers owns a rest. and makes tamales,,,pretty good ---but not the same---if im going to take the time that it takes to make them... I will do the ones that are the best,,plan to do a huge amount of them and freeze them,,,tried with others and the keep for ever.
OSH---no if and or buttttts----your flirting again :-))))
Thanks for all the responses. Solar I am honored and I won't make you cry unless I happened to be cutting onions. I do like to cook with onions.
Zoey's talk of Tollhouse sent me flying into the kitchen and the first batch is in the oven. I double the nuts and half the chips cuz sometime you feel lie a nut...
Thanks to a very sleepy kid - now engaged in Family Guy watching and dozing on the couch, I have a little time to peek in.
Flatus - Ali appeared for but refused induction in1967. He was stripped of his NY boxing license and title then. He was convicted in of draft evasion, which was upheld by the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals, but in 1971 his conviction was overturned unanimously by the US SCt, which ruled that his CO status application based on his religion was legitimate and should have been granted.
Jamie, the NYD food story as it was passed down from my mom - whose family was from Opelika., AL (hard to get much more "South" than that) was if you expected to have good fortune in the new year, you had to eat pork (not exactly sure what the significance of the ork was), greens (turnip or mustard usually) for prosperity, and black eyed peas (preferably as Hoppin' John so that they are tolerably edible) for good luck. And we did eat those every year (and will again because I ... just ... can't... not) and hoped it would be better than the last.
what a ride...... it's seems like only yesterday we were chopping holes in the ice on our brook to get pails of water in order to flush our toilet..... now.... at last..... we've rejoined the 21st century.....
Here is my recipe for tamales- ( use the instructions from the video for assembling and steaming.) It comes from a great book "Cocina de la Familia", as Jamie said enlist help!.
2 lb. pork butt or shoulder
3 garlic cloves
1 1/2 tsp. sea salt
5 peppercorns
2 tblsp. pure chile powder with mixed chiles- I don't do this- just make more from the following chiles or you don't have to do any of this grinding stuff- just buy good chile powder
3 dried ancho chiles or california or new mexican-seeded, toasted and ground
1 dried chile de arbol -seeded, toated and ground
1/4 tsp. cumin
1 cup flour
3-4 tblsp canola or lard
1/2 dried mexican oregano
1/2 tsp. sea salt- depending on the saltiness of the broth
Cut up port into large pieces, place in large pot, cover with 6 inches of water. Flatten garlic, add to pot with salt and peppercorns. Bring to boil and let simmer about 1 1/2 hrs. until ready to fall apart. Remove pot from heat, let meat cool in broth. Remove meat, reserve broth and cut off any fat you don't want to eat. Shred meat and set aside. Add the chile powder, ground chiles and cumin to 3 cups of the broth and mix thoroughly. Brown flour in an ungreased skillet until lightly toasted; stir and shake the pan so that the flour doesn't burn. Drizzle in some of the oil until the flour is saturated and continue to stir until it is a deep khaki color. Slowly stir in the chile-broth mixture and cook over medium heat until the gravy thickens. Add the oregano and salt to taste. Stir and taste, adding more chile if necessary.
Stir half of the gravy into the shredded pork meat. Set aside3 remaining gravy to be reheated later.
Prepare the tamal batter.
4 cups masa harina
1 1/2 tsp baking powder
1 1/2 tsp. sea salt
3 coups lukewarm broth or water
2/3 cup lard or vegetable shortening
Mix masa harina, baking powder and salt together in a large bowl and stir in enough of the broth to make a most batter. Beat the lard with an electric mixer about 5 minutes, until creamy and fluffry. Mix with the masa , adding more water if needed. To make a spreadable batter, continue beating for at least another 10 minutes. Taste for salt and add more if necessary. The batter is ready when a spoonful dropped into cold water floats to the surface.
Line up the pile of corn husks, masa, filling and ties then assemble and steam tamales without opening for an hour. Serve with remaining gravy.
Enjoy!
The more I watch about the Burris appointment, the more I think that Harry Reid and the Senate Dems are being total asses. They welcome traitor Joe with open arms but reject a man with a clean if somewhat hack like record all because their noses are out of joint over Blago.
If Blago can't appoint Burris, then nothing he has done since being arrested is legal. A special election would cost the state (broke like the others) several million dollars.
Just let Burris be a stopgap senator and go on to try Blago for any crimes he might have committed and let the whole matter go into well deserved oblivion.
Renee, welcome back to America. Not much has changed since you were banished to the wilderness. Sorry to say, but Bush is still president, and he's still stupid. Harry Reid's still SML, and he's still stupid. Hope you don't have Time Warner cable and weren't addictied to VH1 Classic (like me). The economy's still in the crapper. Oh well. Happy New Year.
Pogo.....after reading this thread.... I see nothing much has changed on this blog either..... we have Comcast.... they did hook up the road on Saturday..... but the fact that our wire was off the house kinda threw them for a loop..... guess they are Comcastically Unprepared......
we got plugged back in about 3 hrs ago...... just in time to watch Ryan Seacrest get hit with the new year's ball.... and of course to do the annual watch of the original Planet of the Apes....
Pogo -- what effect will the Fitzgerald request for 90 more days before he charges Blago? That is very strange -- what did he expect to happen with the appointment?
Animal Control,
Noticed you've posted a couple of times lately. Just want to thank you for the shout out a couple weeks ago. Have a very happy New Year! :)
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Renee, Welcome back! Glad you got your power back before 2009 arrives.
"Now the entire campaign to de-legitimize Blagojevich is getting harder for U.S. senators and the U.S. attorney handling the case to make, George Washington University law professor Jonathan Turley and others told FOXNews.com.
"There is no question that (Burris) is the legitimate successor to Barack Obama. There is no controversy here as a matter of law. The controversy is purely political. People simply don't like the governor who appointed him," Turley said.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, though, said he and his colleagues will not seat Burris since he would enter the chamber "under a shadow" and be "plagued by questions of impropriety."
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Since Burris has not been sworn in, the first tactic by the Senate may be simply to prevent that from happening, rather than wait until he's sworn in to expel him. But the senators' effort is complicated because Burris technically was appointed through a legal process.
Turley said that Reid would be pursuing a "dangerous precedent" if he tried to block Burris.
"There's no question in my view that this would be an abuse of the Senate's inherent authority."
Carl Tobias, a law professor at the University of Richmond, said one option for the Senate is to seat Burris and then refer the matter to committee for investigation.
"It's all very murky right now," Tobias said.
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Both professors said they wouldn't be surprised if the matter headed to court."
Sad to say that my NYE party got cancelled tonight. I was heading downtown to see a friend who has a new drag-act, but a kitchen fire has closed the place down. Sad, because he was revved up about his new Tanya Tucker songs. Guess it will be a quiet night after all.
you can celebrate Elvis's birthday on the 8th of January. There also is an old fiddle tune called "The 8th of January" but you may know it more as "The Battle of New Orleans." Jimmy Driftwood was singer/songwriter and part time history teacher in Arkansas when he wrote this tune to help keep the students interested in the subject. The year was 1936. It is said that Driftwood wrote over 6,000 songs in his lifetime. Another famous song is "The Tennessee Stud."
"An unscientific poll being conducted by America Online reveals more and more people are having second thoughts about Barack Obama's eligibility to occupy the Oval Office.
Those who raised questions about his vague history before the election largely drew scorn from the mainstream media, which cited an online image from Obama's campaign that purportedly proved his U.S. citizenship with a Hawaiian "Certification of Live Birth."
But the latest results from the America Online poll reveal that nationwide only 41 percent of the participants now believe there is no issue to be investigated.
Fifty-three percent nationwide, and majorities in 45 states individually, say "yes" when asked if there is "any merit" to the controversy surrounding his citizenship. Even in Obama's own state, Illinois, the opinion is split 47-47 percent on the issue. "
Rita: Thank You, for your kind words. Happy New Year!I Hope 2009, brings PEACE,and Understanding. I like you did not vote for Obama, but he is going to be our next POTUS. I will hold my judgment of him,until I see what he is going to do. He has to show me that he is a man of his word, not just a man who knows how to use words.
"Later on we learned about Hawaiian law in effect at the time of Obama's birth that allowed parents or guardians of babies born in a foreign country to register the foreign births in Hawaii and to receive a COLB as evidence of that registration.
After learning this information many concerned Americans had doubts about whether the COLB was sufficient proof that Obama was in fact born in Hawaii.
... the conflicting statements of Obama and his sister concerning in which Hawaiian hospital he was born; the failure of any Hawaiian hospital to confirm that Obama and/or his mother were present in any such hospital at the time of Obama's alleged birth in Honolulu; Director of Hawaiian Department of Heath, Fukino, said she has “personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures," but she failed to say that the certificate shows that Obama was born in Hawaii ..."
Thanks guys. I'm on AOL. We don't always agree in polls but we did always vote for Hillary in the primary polls.
I thought I was the only one who skipped New Years Parties for a cozy night at home. Eating chili,Tollhouse cookies and protecting the dog from firecracker noise. Also watching LSU kick some Georgia butt.
Apologies. That is AOL's reputation. Their members tend to be elderly, very conservative, and unwilling or unable to venture out into the great wide world of the net.
You may need to find a different gate to the outside world. 2009 will finally see me officially a "senior" at 65, but I don't let that interfere with the brave new world. :-)
I found this joint after watching Craig on TV and finding him to be one the few guys I agreed with. I wanted to tell him thank you and ended up discovering this blog. It was the most intelligent blogs I have come across on the net. It has been an enjoyable experience and you are all very interesting specimens.
A few hours ago I received a late Christmas present ,,,and an early new years one,,,received a phone call from an Architect friend of m ine---told me that I had mail-------a client of his is building a new house in a suburbs and he recommended me to him,,,we have had some preliminary agreements and it looks like something very good for my co...so I will be up all night studying blue prints and tomorrow also,,,,getting ready for a Friday meeting,,,,that's a good thing,,,,the bad thing is might be working in the freezing cold----but nothing new.
OSH---sorry if I said something wrong--back there ---was just trying to tease you a little
I see that RR made it back--that nice
Chole --at 12:01 sending you a big hug
Patsi--no more guessing,,,the only thing that I got right is that rabbit that was sitting on you lap again----but little M is what counts ---so I have that right huh,,,sorry about your not making your party---If I was there I would pick u up ---and we would hit the nearest Hill-Bill-Tex-Mex joint and get in trouble together. :-)))
It is a wonderful place. Most of the time peaceful and inhabited by well read and ver intelligent folks who like to discuss politics when they aren't veering off into music and local events. Have you had a chance to make the rounds of the trailmixer blogs? Craig links to them under "blogroll" on the left.
No Jamie, I barely have time to work, do all my chores and keep up with this blog. I thought that maybe when I retire but then there was this ecomony thing that happened. Retirement money went into the ozone.
I am a nurse practitioner and provide the medical care for about 1300 inmates at our local jail/prison. Never a dull moment. It is actually my retirement job. I am a retired nurse educator.
Solar, studying people has always been my favorite hobby. So much I can learn and I see everyone as my teachers even my inmates. I do skip learning anything re: their crimimal activities since if I am seeing them the criminal activity was not very sucessful.
What is really pitiful is that most of the poor people in jail haven't done anything close to what is being done to us by many of those in our government and on Wallstreet.
36 years practicing in many different roles as a nurse/clinical nurse specialist/nurse educator/diabetes educator/ etc and it takes all that plus to take care of my inmates. Many have serious mental problems in addition to being excellent manipulators. It has been my most challenging job. It also can be very rewarding.
Im glad that you are out of the bad mood your were put in by those bastards ---I lost very big time in the last year and a half----but will have to keep my head down and get to work,,,that is the only way that I know how to keep going---wish that it was spring---more of a positive atmosphere ,,,,,,I also study people a lot---had 28 employees once,,,and knew what they were thinking just by the way they walked,,talked,,body language,,,,they thought that a was a Bruho----Warlock,,,I just knew them well.-I joined up here for exactly the same reason that you did
Question----I did not write down the date that I made my first post --- how can I find out?
Solar- don't be silly, I was just teasing too! I didn't respond because I went out for a bit. There is this man on the island with a great irish name and the map of Ireland on his face, hot in a scruffy way.. Well, he is a singer songwriter guitarist, sings irish sounding, sea chantey type tunes. He isn't a technically brilliant singer but anyways sometimes when I hear him sing and he catches my eye, I have to look away for fear he can see too far into my soul. I thought I'd end the year on a good note and go listen for a bit. This island is so weird sometimes. We got 6 inches of snow (maybe) so very few people were at the concert and they stopped early, all done by the time I got there. It was a pretty drive though, the snow is still stuck to the trees and creating all sorts of snow sculptures about.
I have to go over to TM's photo's and see what he sees,,,,,, Im back----nice picture, very nice,,how old did you day you were,?,,,,want some candy little girl :-)))
things are not going right----Krista Ross it the 7th one on the 2nd page---from there you can see some of the people from here---that site keeps bouncing me around--so I hope that it lets you in
Happy New Year Trail Mixers! My kids are hosting an all-night gaming session and I'm here watching CNN. Kathy and Anderson are a great combination -- she's made him blush throughout the evening. Also really good to see Bill and Hill dancing in Times Square.
Doots -- did you ever go to his yearly festival? My sister used to pack up her guitar and head to Arkansas every year.
No, sadly I was never able to go. Woulda been real fun. Have you heard or do you know John Hartford's kid Jamie Hartford? He is a pretty good musician.
Tiptoe goes to the Woody Guthrie festival every July in Okema, Oklahoma. Never been there either but I been in Oklahoma in July and it is mucho caliente.
I just got the coolest message from a very good friend of mine that I met in college. Tedd was editor of the school newspaper and we were both passionate about politics... We found each other on Facebook...
I wrote to him: Happy New Year Tedd.. Needless to say, I really miss you. The election of 2008 reminds me of the excitement we had in 1992 when Bill Clinton was elected! Love the thought on free markets.. LOL
And then Tedd wrote to me, which turns out to be a "classic me" moment, speaking out against the ideology of a Washington State Employment Security representative who was in our MPA class denouncing government providing public jobs...
Tedd says: "1992 was exciting, but in hindsight Bill was only able to slowdown the coservative bullshit that started in the 60's. Over the past year I've often thought of the heretical verbal drubbing you gave a rep from Employment Security visiting our mpa class because he did "not think government should create jobs.". You were precient, flying in the face of new democrat/pro market bs that dominated until recently. All that bs has been repeatedly refuted by the facts on the ground all over the world."
WOW... you know, sometimes I feel I am far less eloquent than I used to be, maybe a disconnect from the USA, perhaps because I do not attend classes any more and perhaps because my language is used less than before and when I do speak English I often have to use broken words with my customers... This message of Tedd made my first day of 2009 to be a beautiful one.
"Have you heard or do you know John Hartford's kid Jamie Hartford? He is a pretty good musician."
Doots -- I've only met Jamie a couple of times, and it was years back. Yes -- his music is great...
John was already pretty sick by the time I first heard Jamie play. (Although John Hartford danced and fiddled his way around cancer for a long time....he kept that sorry disease guessing!).
John was a dear friend -- and one of my personal heroes. And boy did he love that river....
patsi, just looked at the photo of your daughter and grandchild. maria has such beautiful startling blue eyes in it.... have they become more intense and expressive as she's grown older?
patd -- Maria's eyes seem to change color now...sometimes they are blue, sometimes greenish blue...very interesting. But they always are "sharp." She doesn't miss much!
It's fun and funny to see my only grandbaby with fairly light hair and eyes....both my children were very dark, solid brown eyes....when my son and daughter went into Mexican restaurants, the waiters and waitresses almost always began speaking to them in Spanish.
patd, it would have been wonderful if Mr Carter could have bypassed the presidency and gone straight to Habitat.
He did more damage to reasonable and proper intelligence gathering than any individual in my experience.
I spent hours and hours hiding information, not from foreign operatives, but my own government. This was done solely for the protection of our sources and methods.
Patsi, I would send you a few pictures of Autumn, but somehow I think, despite her beauty and demeanor, you would find her a distant second to your Maria. :)
and to all the bad ones too. comity, my friend flatus, comity.
1 a: friendly social atmosphere : social harmony b: a loose widespread community based on common social institutions c: comity of nations d: the informal and voluntary recognition by courts of one jurisdiction of the laws and judicial decisions of another
2: avoidance of proselytizing members of another religious denomination. [merriam-webster]
IMO and it does not account for much, the Hartford album "Steam Powered Airplane" is one of the finest collections of music that has ever been produced.
A friend of mine used play banjo on the General Jackson at Opryland. Hartford had a house on top of the cliffs somewhere along the river. I was able to spend the day with Greg once on the General and when we passed his house, the boat blew its horn and Hartford blew his horn in response. In my mind, very cool.
Happy New Year to you also.
I spent last night at a friends house. He has a western swing band called the Texas Trailhands. They put on a house concert for free. Was fun. We had food and music. Alcohol free.
Allan Chapman is his name. He spent 15 or so years in Nashville working for United Artists as a songwriter. Did you ever run across him in town?
About New Years resolutions, not to worry everyone. :)
Don't Do It; You're Perfect Already
"Each year, on or around Jan. 1, a substantial number of reasonable Americans embark on the futile task of pledging to eliminate one toxic activity or another from their lives. Don't. You're already perfect." http://www.denverpost.com/harsanyi
I sure hope this carton from that same paper is wrong: http://www.denverpost.com/opinion/ci_11337131
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"we have had some preliminary agreements and it looks like something very good for my co...so I will be up all night studying blue prints"
Solar, Congratulations on getting that job! Working in the cold is better than not working at all.
Someones fantasy?
What if Obama legalizes marijuana to help stimulate the economy?
Why Obama Really Might Decriminalize Marijuana
"The stoner community is clamoring to say it: "Yes we cannabis!" Turns out, with several drug-war veterans close to the president-elect's ear, insiders think reform could come in Obama's second term -- or sooner." http://www.esquire.com/the-side/richardson-report/obama-marijuana-legalization-122308
The Woman Who Blew the Whistle on Blago
Whistle-blower
"Pamela Davis, blond suburban mother of three, was told that her bra would be the best place to wear the wire that kick-started a long investigation into Chicago graft and that ultimately caught the governor of Illinois trying to sell Barack Obama’s Senate seat. Davis is the president and C.E.O. of Edward Hospital, in Naperville, Illinois..." http://www.newyorker.com/talk/2009/01/05/090105ta_talk_burleigh
".I will not set on the sidelines though and watch i will speak up,Chloe taught me that here during the primaries,Thank you Chloe!!"
Tony, There were a lot of rough times. One of the things that got me through them was you. You've always been so unquestioningly supportive through the bad times, and there were many times that you were the only reason I came back here.
"you would find her a distant second to your Maria. :)"
ROFL, Flatus -- Not at all. As people (friends from the music business, and of my children) started sending me pictures of their little daughters this year, I found myself exclaiming each time -- "OH! She's the most beautiful...." etc etc.
I love the way babies/toddlers differ. Two of my great nieces had new sons a little over a year ago. One is as blond and blue-eyed as you'd ever see, and the other (whose father is Hispanic) has jet black hair and sparkling black eyes. I absolutely love seeing their pictures side by side on my fridge -- what a couple of handsome guys. A snapshot of America. And reminiscent of "Giant."
And the funny thing is, the little guy who most looks like he "belongs" in my father's family, is the Hispanic. He does look a lot like his great great granddaddy.
Chloe
I feel the same way.I can't forget how badly you were treated (buy some that I like) just for having your own thoughts and opinions and it changed me for the better because i became more tolerant of differences and i learned to appreciate them!. I also remember a few times wanting to go away but you kept me coming back.Glad...
Good morning everyone and Happy New Year. I was sitting here trying to decide which bad habit I would attempt to change and fail trying. Then I read the article you cited and realized I don't have to. Whew!
Yes Chloe, you can say depressing. It is more frustrating. Many inmates come in with horrible medical conditions, we make good progress in addressing them, they get out, don't do a thing to follow up and are back in even worse condition.
"comity ain't divine if it means unlimited intellectual sacrifice merely for the sake of 'peace'."
flatus, certainly don't want to censure anyone or ban especially the thought-provokers. only advocating for less addled hominy (or whatever our gracious host chided us about) and for more bons mots, eruditely and civily proffered with equanimity.
Obama seems so relaxed and at ease on his vacation. If I was facing what he is going to face I would be inside fretting but I guess when your going to be the bossman you can delegate that. It's nice to be King.
"Hartford had a house on top of the cliffs somewhere along the river. I was able to spend the day with Greg once on the General and when we passed his house, the boat blew its horn and Hartford blew his horn in response. In my mind, very cool."
Yes -- John loved that place -- and entertained every holiday season. He was such a fine man. There was an elderly man who lived nearby (on just social security), whose landlord doubled his rent. The old man was one John loved sitting by the river and talking to...and when John learned what was happening, he immediately converted his garage into a "guest house" and invited the old gent to live there. (free pof charge)
I don't recall ever knowing Allan Chapman. The name is familiar though....not surprising in Nashville. You hear about far more people than you know!
they are a really a novelty band. They do a lot of Roy Rogers and Gene Autry stuff and they are mostly acoustic. The lead guitar player plugs in on live gigs. The girl singer is the voice and she sings the part of Jessie the Yodeling Cowgirl on the Disney release "Toy Story II record. She is very good. She does some dates with Riders In The Sky.
How in the world did America survive all it's years without a CIA to create reasons to spy on people and to disrupt legitimate gatherings and conduct assassinations of Heads of State that did not do the USA's bidding??
Thank god we got the spy network back up and working and that with the wonderful thing known as the internet, everything and anything we write or visit is collected by spy agencies in order to protect "freedom". Now, who is spying on the spys?
Flatus I don't know if you were an "intelligence" worker in the past, and it's no dig on you that I express my great concern about intelligence abuses. Last night I watched "Meet the Fockers" which was on BBC. Now I picture you as Robert Di Niro's role as the retired CIA agent. Hope you're still in the "circle of trust"... :)
I have to leave, but regarding Tony, he's been nothing but a gentleman the whole time he has been here and Tony, if you were in Belgium, I am sure we would be best friends...
Bye all, just got home from doing inventory of my shop. So much for my vacation. We're gonna relax now and watch a DVD... cheerio...
That is a nice photograph. Clicking on the link brings up an email form, not a shopping site. Is there anyway to hear him and how does money change hands?
I don't know the answer to your question. I will call him today and ask that question for you. I think you might get an idea of what he sounds like from the trailhands CD link.
Patsi--- love your post to Flatus, about babies,,,,,what you said is right on with what I believe is the first true feelings( collective) all human beings share around the world,,the love of all babies and themselves---the love of your species ?? P.S. there so many babies in our family that is hard to keep tract of all of them----but each and every one of them are a diff, and have their very own little characteristics.
PATD------- it took a little while for me to understand your post above,,,and still working on it-----once again----you fibbed a little to me when you said that you were not a word meister ---you are the best one!
This my favorite one (word) that I have learned from you,,,,,,and I say it over ,,and over,,,I also repeat it cos I say the same thing more than once some times-----------I hope that Craig used it in his book several of times,,,,,sorry could not resist being corny again---------ITERATIVE----- so once again thanks.oops :-)))
Chloe
Thanks ---pretty sure I will get it --but like I said once before . I don't count on anything until all the contracts are signed,,,keeps one from too many disappointments.
Doots -- I love to hear those trail songs....I grew up around the Cimarron cutoff part of the Santa Fe Trail, out by Dodge City. Others see that part of the country as desolate....I love it.
Those plains can be magical....once my mom and I pulled off to the side of the road to watch 5 (count 'em!) tornados dancing on the horizon -- miles from us....it was glorious to watch...they dipped and swayed, almost like a ballet....I wished I'd had a camera -- not the ratty little ones I ever had though -- a really good one like what you probably use, Doots!
For those who would like to see the Clintons dancing and celebrating the New Year, here is a link to a video. They look happy.
Clintons, Revelers Ring in 2009 in Times Square http://wcbstv.com/cbsnational/new.years.eve.2.898124.html
"I wished I'd had a camera -- not the ratty little ones I ever had though -- a really good one like what you probably use, Doots!"
My main camera is very old, Patsi. It can not be newer than about 1950 because that is when they quit making that particular style. The camera is a large format camera that is mostly made of wood. To operate it it has to be on a tripod and to focus you have to crawl under a big blanket and the damned image is upside down. Pain in the @ss. Now, the taking lenses are some of the best in the commercial world. They are older but in excellent shape. The negative measures 4x5 inches.
I, too, love the plains. I once drove up Hwy 287 from Ft Worth to Amarillo and it was raining off and on the whole time. Closer I got to Amarillo and I 40 the tornadoes started to appear. Very spooky. Nothing much out there for them to tear up but maybe some fence posts and wire. Still....
Don't stop your conversation with H D---fantastic------I can imagine all kinds of names ---Side Saddle Sally-(Chloe) ha----5 tornados and you made it to 50 thats great
I know zero about photography, Dooty....but don't people fight for those vintage cameras? Don't they take a photo in a very different way? (I may have seen that in a tv show...ha)
Oh, yeah -- I love the Texas and Oklahoma panhandles....likewise SW Kansas and Eastern Colorado. It's funny to hear various band members talk about that drive along I-70 between Kansas City and Denver -- once you get past Eastern Kansas, you hit the real plains. Some of the guys I've met -- very few -- LOVE that drive -- others are slightly horrified by the lack of anything, including trees.
To me, there is nothing better than dawn on the plains, and the sound of a train whistle in the distance.
Patsi---I forgot the tax--50 plus tax=63--less actual condition --mental,etc-----63--less--13= 50,, now leave it at that and stop arguing like a 63 year old kid---I love that picture of Maria and your daughter,,
That guy is full of------and himself----along ethnic lines is how this country was built----if we can only live intermixed like some community's have show possible,,,than there is no way in hell....The Texas part is the only thing that I can see happening----in 30-40 years the Hispanic influence will have that effect I think----We should have made Mexico (all of it) part of the U.S. when we invaded them in 1846.
Alaska----I have faith in Gov Palin------she won't lose it to the Ruskies-----she will defend it with tooth and nail----and a little lipstick,,,,,but I will go to Minn---to see my beefalos Patsi
While working on my "Lou Dobbs Must Go" piece I came across this little item . In 2007 I tried to track some of this stuff real closely, and I saw these things all over the world. This past year , I didn't do it with as much zeal, but this one news item confirms to me that what I saw in 07' hasn't slowed down :
" Following nearly three years of sparse rainfall, 2008 is poised to go into the record books as the state's wettest year ever, eclipsing even the Great Flood year of 1993. "
2008 one of wettest years ever in Mo
( 2008 beat 1993 by a hair in Mo.) http://www.usatoday.com/weather/news/2009-01-01-missouri-precipitation_N.htm
" Missouri State Climatologist Pat Guinan said the most precipitation recorded in Missouri in 2008 was in Unionville, near the Iowa border, where a weather station logged 73.96 inches — almost double the town’s average of 37.26 inches.
But Miller, in Lawrence County, wasn’t far behind, reporting more than 72 inches for the year. "
http://www.joplinglobe.com/joplin_metro/local_story_366215348.html
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These extreme rain / snow events are increasing in number, and they don't just last for a day or two, many of them have nothing to do with tropical storms. It rained 18 inches in 6 hours at Marble Falls, Texas in 2007 without a hurricane. That one still boggles my mind. Several cities in the Northwest led by Spokane , have just booked the largest snow records ever. Spokane just received 5 feet for the month of December. Countless other places have recorded far more.
This is what the models predicted.
We better get a good FEMA director folks, we're gonna need one.
In terms of insured losses, Hurricane Ike was the most expensive individual event in 2008. Whereas in the previous two years, the US mainland had largely been spared by heavy cyclones, the 2008 hurricane season generated substantial losses which also affected the insurance industry. Six tropical cyclones (Dolly, Edouard, Fay, Gustav, Hanna, and Ike) reached the US coast in close succession this year, the severest being Ike, which made landfall as a Category 2 hurricane near Galveston (Texas). The storm surge triggered by Ike submerged large sections of the Texas and Louisiana coast. As the storm progressed over the mainland, extreme precipitation caused more and more damage, resulting in an insured loss estimated at US$ 15bn (not including the claims covered under the National Flood Insurance Program). The overall loss caused by Ike was US$ 30bn. The year’s second most expensive hurricane was Gustav, with an overall loss of US$ 10bn and an insured loss of US$ 5bn.
Just heard something on radio that has crossed my little grey cells a few times. King George and his various dupes and spokesliars keep saying that he has kept us safe from terra since 9/11. With all of that eavesdropping, undercover activities, keeping watch on everyone not to mention the billions spent on anti terra and war on drugs plus all the money spent supposedly wiping out the poppy crops that are now more plentiful than ever, can you explain why heroin and cocaine are so easy to get here in the well protected homeland?
I would love to have one of theoretically investigative type reporters stand up and ask that one.
i certainly can't feel sorry about someone who builds
a house 50feet from the oceans edge, on a foundation of sand, then gets on tv ands cries about
how they got wiped out'
dumbass should have known better
there have always been hurricanes ''won't stop just
because people have decided to develop every
square inch of beach
Tom
Thanks for your kindness! I believe you are right we would be best friends..I like smart and passionate people and you sure fit that description.. Glad your feeling better.Happy New Year!!
houston is probably the second most important
the port of baton rouge to new Orleans the first
60 percent of all u.s. grain exports goes through NO
the ports were operating within a week after katrina
all the concern was about residential neighborhoods
that were built on swamp and marshland' and should
have never been developed in the first place
mqw -
Ike when it got to Rolla , Mo. :
Sept. 14th
" A RECORD RAINFALL OF 4.43 INCHES WAS SET AT VICHY-ROLLA MO TODAY.
THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 2.39 SET IN 1993."
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Rolla is a long way from the beach.
Patsi
Thanks for the photo's,nice.Hope the New Year is finding you swell so far.I worked today but got done early.I'm still catching up reading here.I enjoy all your posts and the info you provide so much.I'm glad your such a strong woman and say what you feel.Like Hillary you don't let all the sexist slurs that are said to you by one person shut you up or make you quit on anything you believe.It all makes perfect sense to me now,you can't be beaten down and one person here doesn't like that..TOUGH...Your the best...
The point remains q.
In 3 years we've seen 5 major category cyclones destroy the coastline from Galveston to New Orleans. The climate models were predicting this stuff for years, and we are witnessing it right in front of our eyes.
Animal Control, Happy New year back atcha. Love that Rolling Stones song you linked. Hope to see you around here more. :)
.........
"I don't count on anything until all the contracts are signed,,,keeps one from too many disappointments."
Hey Tony, In the theory of the 'breakup of the U.S.' story that Carol linked, your and my state will be in the same section. We'll be under the influence of Mexico, which is not surprising, but... Ha. Ain't gonna happen...
Gordo---Happy New Year----now I am not telling you what to do,,,but it is a new year---like Osh says Dang---just realized I just did some paper work and dated it 2008-------any way Gordo,,,a new year, calls for a new project for your tenacious ability's ----there are two on the table worthy of your talent---and C-bob has them both on Radar for you-----the first that he has in order that he presented them is---Lou Dobbs---yeah he has got to go,,,,the 2nd is what is the best way to get shore line construction in the areas mentioned above?????both are worth while don't you think---get it going and we all can help you,,,,but if want to stick with 2008 and get left behind---go head,,,thanks
I want to tell you something-----I think that you are probably right on most of what you have said,,,,but so what ---the man is in the drivers seat now,,,,and if he wants to he can make all new paper work appear by magic,,,but u will know the diff-----hell I still don't think that we landed on the moon,,,,sometimes I do--- but who cares now----we have made it a fact ,,,,such is the power of manipulation,,thanks
Thanks for the train songs....I used to looove to hop on a train for almost no reason. My dad finally told me that if he called the sorority house one more time and some girl told him she didn't know where I went, "just somewhere on the train"....he was gonna come down to that college and jerk me straight out of there....ha.
Patsi---yes we do----and I also want to take away one reason for the late night ridicule of him,,,that would make one less person to f---with,,,its getting old?
My last try---I doesn't matter is he was born in Russia,.,or Germany,,,and his father was Hitler ---it is a fact he is President of the U. S,,,,,just like G W was elected by the S. Court---he will also,,,,it it a dead issue-even your boy at Quarterly doesn't say any diff.
Hey Patsi
If you ever get the chance to meet Donna Summer,please tell her a big hello for me!! Oh and a big Thank you for putting out a wonderful new CD(Crayons) after a long absense..I love her and her birthday is today....
Solar, Can't really call Gordo "tenacious" since he doesn't actually do anything but read the conspiracy sites and then regurgitate the contents here. They flush and the Gordo pipe empties in our little neck of the woods.
Solar,oh and thank you for making me keep my feet off the coffee table,there on the ottoman,no really they are...HA HA..Let us no if you get the new job,i would love to here some good news about housing for a change...Buddy I like that,i kinda miss being called that.When i worked at GM we called friends that all the time.Maybe its a mid-western northern thing..Nice
If this were the Wild West I can envision some here as all for "lynching Gordo" just because he does not subscribe to the prevalent "group think" and by the way--until Obama has taken the Oath he is not President-according to "The Constitution" or maybe that doesn't count anymore in this "Hopey Dopey World of Change"
AC---u r absolutely right---just wanted to take away the bait he gives some others---is all----might need some solar passive help from you-,,,how is the weather where u r at?
Have a friend from childhood---Mike Croy----he only had one job in his whole life---working for Santa Fe Railroad,,,started as a switch man and worked his way to train master in Calif....one of he highest jobs in he country,,,,,,,started to buy model rail road cars,,,cabooses etc,,down town chicago at the age of 10-11 year old---he is one of the biggest collectors in of HO scale now-----travel all over the country for shows and club,,we were in the Marine Corps together,,,,,,,he would have loved all of this train music and talk----thanks for reminding me of a great freind.
"PRESIDENT-elect Barack Obama is being hit by shocking charges - it's against the law for him to take office because he isn't a "natural-born" U.S. citizen! A stunning lawsuit by a former government official claims the 47-year-old politician was actually born in Kenya, which would disqualify him from office. GLOBE's Special Report rips the lid off the simmering controversy. It's must reading for every American!"
Steve had a stroke several years ago and has had to learn to play guitar again. One of the problems he has is that he cannot remember the words to Texas Trilogy any more.
Yup, been about 5 or 6 years now since he had the stroke. He took about a 4 year vacation from work and did the recuperation thing. He is now back preforming again albeit a greatly reduced schedule. He is still leading river canoe trips in the Big Bend Nat Park and is also doing trail rides on horse back.
Funny story told after the stroke but before he was released from the hospital he was visited by country music legend Billy Joe Shaver. You may know that Billy Joe lost 2 fingers on his right hand as a young man in a logging accident. The story goes that when Billy Joe walked into the hospital room Fromholz looked up smiled as he held up his hand and said, "Billy Joe, gimme three!"
Hey Gordo, Happy New Year! Surprised there is an article in the Globe magazine. Saw somewhere today that one media group named it the most under reported topic of the year. Can find the link if you would like. I admire you for very rarely reacting to the negative personal comments and sticking to your topic.
Oh and one more thing GOOFO, of course I know what a birth certificate is. I did not known of the acronym COLB, but then there are many acronyms I had not previously heard. SoeterObama is just a phrase created by your fellow conspiracists (last 7 letters r-a-c--i-s-t-s) to further writhe and whine that Barack Obama won the election. Shame on you ! Shame on you and shame on the people who think you are somehow being a courageous participant on this blog. I do wonder how some people sleep at night.
DON'Tt be tossing any shame on me ET, I'll have none of it. Gordo is questioning the whole issue as many others do, maybe not here on this blog, but it did make the Globe today. So obviously he is not alone. He has never said ANYTHING racist nor does he stoop to name calling those who mock him. This sort of bs attitude reminds me of the period of time after 9/11 when one couldn't question Bush without their patriotism being questioned. Don't question the great and mighty O, or maybe you'll be called a racist or even worse- a republican
And one more thing ET, I just looked at my first post- I didn't say anything much, but you got so mad that you're leaving because I greeted Gordo and told him that "I admire him for not rarely reacting to negative personal comments?! Kind of overreacting , don't you think? You ought to buck up.
"... of course I know what a birth certificate is. I did not known of the acronym COLB ..."
COLB is NOT a BC!
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"SoeterObama is just a phrase created by your fellow conspiracists (last 7 letters r-a-c--i-s-t-s) ... "
His LEGAL name (now) is unknown -- it's a combination of his two most likely legal names.
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"... paranoid bullshit ..."
He admits to dual citizenship at birth -- therefore, he is NOT a "natural born" citizen.
This is from SoetorObama's own site:
“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children."
Solar- Ha ha! And as for a brogue when I'm mad, never thought about it before, maybe some does slip out. Who can stay mad with friends like you around? Good night and wishing you a grand, prosperous and healthy new year to you.
Hope everyone's holidays were fantastic, and that you have enough of something left to keep going - money, energy, sleep, food, whatever.
Thanks for the birthday wishes, too. I've always been one of those people who fared quite well having a birthday the day after Christmas. In the last ten years or so it has developed into a rave since people felt like still partying. I got gifts from people who weren't around on my sisters's birthdays. This year it was quiet, and it's a damn good thing.
For all of you who have been having trouble with typekey, I have to say comparing typekey to symantec is eye-opening. Symantec has it all over competition.
Tuesday I was told my auto-protect was OFF. I could not start it, so had to get symantec to call me between 11 and 12 pm - and that's when the fun started.
My contact was Russian, I think. The phone line was horrible. This was succeeded by another Russian. I stayed nice but cried, literally, and hung up. Mistakenly my contract was cancelled an hour later.
I convinced my self that my computer was vulnerable and all my money was probably stolen from my accounts - un-plugged my computer, and cried all night. No sleep till about 11 am the next day. I was figuring out how I could stand to live on my soc sec and pension, and no money as back-up.
I finally got it straightened out, after two days of talking with India. I didn't get nasty with anyone, but my god! It makes me claustrophic, trapped, when I can't move forward even a little. The whole thing qualifies as one of the most nightmarish times of my life.
I'm not really old or sick, but for the first time in my life I have had a little extra money and not had to drag myself to work. I had got used to getting decent sleep and feeling good - I could not stand to think of going out looking for another job which would probably be beyond un-rewarding.
Okay, so no more whining, and so far my money is still safe. But is there a computer safety org that has reps who really speak English???????
Fels good to be back talking with you guys and hearing you squabble.
what's going on ? ain't craig supposed to reset this thing ' and put out a topic worthy of discussion and debate. where is that old pumkinhead at. still writing that book' heck pat or newt could written two books by now. he's probably just been lounging on the sofa
eating sugar pops and watching old movies.
c'mon craig we're dying here
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I wonder where all this stuff was made.
I saw that the Obama book we printed was in the bargain bin at Barnes & Nobel for $5. It was hopelessly out of date since it was printed before the nomination.
I think I'll save my money and use it on something fun, like going skiing tomorrow.
Posted by: Bowmanc
| December 30, 2008 6:37 AM
happy penultimate day!
wonder if anyone ever has a penultimate party and do they just shake hands at midnight?
Posted by: patd | December 30, 2008 6:46 AM
sounds like cruise control just got green
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7803997.stm
now if the speed limits also were lowered....
Posted by: patd | December 30, 2008 6:53 AM
Good morning -- and a thought from the web:
Wisdom is the only true wealth ~
It can be handed down through successive generations-
and no one wants to steal it.
Posted by: Patsi
| December 30, 2008 6:56 AM
Morn'n... OK - now I need to google penultimate day...
Hey to go with the Obama stuff I have some Pokie Man items and beenie baby's
Posted by: Ping Pong
| December 30, 2008 6:57 AM
obama bowling balls might be a good sell....
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5isOFwdbq0tsqatW6vJpkDRTI1gMgD95CU5180
or nicorette with souvenier obama labels.
Posted by: patd | December 30, 2008 7:03 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/PRESIDENT-BARACK-OBAMA-PLUSH-CUDDLY-CUTE-WOW-99-CENTS_W0QQitemZ270322042163QQcmdZViewItemQQssPageNameZRSS:B:SRCH:US:101#ebayphotohosting
Posted by: patd | December 30, 2008 7:29 AM
Wisdom is the only true wealth ~
Now they tell me, I stocked up on stupid all these years.
Posted by: Colorado Bob | December 30, 2008 7:33 AM
yep, and the problem with stupid is people are always borrowing it and not bringing it back..............then youre stuck with making up a new batch.............
Posted by: sturgeone | December 30, 2008 7:41 AM
Hi, I am home early... sick with some sort of gawd-awful virus. Anyway, I think there should be Obama lapel American Flag pins ... :-)
I am off to bed...
Tot ziens,
ET
Posted by: EuroTom
| December 30, 2008 7:41 AM
Tom
Feel better!
Posted by: tonyb39
| December 30, 2008 7:44 AM
Well, the souvenirs were probably all made in China out of a 50/50 mix of melamine & lead. So, while might want to buy Obama merchandise, you probably don't want to lick it.
Posted by: blueINdallas | December 30, 2008 7:52 AM
Thought for the day : ( Sometimes these things are really stupid ........ Today is one of those days.)
" The light of a hundred stars doesn't equal the light of the moon. "
0039 Titus 10th Roman emperor (79-81), conqueror of Jerusalem
1851 Asa Griggs Candler developed Coca-Cola
1865 Rudyard Kipling Bombay, author (Jungle Book, Gunga Din-Nobel 1907)
1928 Bo Diddley [Ellas Bates] Mississippi, rock 'n' roll pioneer (Bo Diddley)
1931 Skeeter Davis [Mary Penick] Dry Ridge KY, singer (End of the World)
1942 Michael Nesmith Houston, rocker/actor (Monkees-Last Train to Clarksville)
1945 [David] Davy Jones Manchester England, singer/actor (Monkees-Last Train to Clarksville)
1731 1st US music concert (Peter Pelham's great room in Boston)
1809 Wearing masks at balls forbidden in Boston
1817 1st coffee planted in Hawaii (Kona)
1835 After gold discovery in Georgia, Cherokees are forced to move across Mississippi River
1853 Gadsden Purchase - 45,000 square miles (120,000 km) by Gila River from Mexico for $10 million; Area is now southern Arizona & New Mexico
1854 Pennsylvania Rock Oil Company, 1st in US, incorporated in New York NY
1879 Gilbert & Sullivan's "Pirates of Penzance" premieres
1936 United Auto Workers stage 1st sit-down strike, at Fisher Body Plant
1938 Electronic television system patented by V K Zworykin
1940 California's 1st freeway (Arroyo Seco Parkway) opens
1952 Tuskegee Institute reports 1952 as 1st year in 71 with no lynchings in US
1967 Beatles' "Hello Goodbye" single goes #1 & stays #1 for 3 weeks
1974 Beatles are legally disbanded (4 years after suit was brought)
1979 Rock group, Emerson Lake & Palmer break up
Today's Broadway flop -
1993 "Candles, Snow, & Mistletoe" closes at Palace NYC after 7 performances
Posted by: Colorado Bob | December 30, 2008 7:56 AM
busines should = business
Posted by: sturgeone | December 30, 2008 7:57 AM
15,333 results found for "Obama" on e-bay.
http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=m38.l1311&_nkw=obama&_sacat=See-All-Categories
Who needs an economic stimulus plan, when we can just buy & sell Obama stuff.
Posted by: Bowmanc
| December 30, 2008 7:57 AM
Limes E-Tom, Limes.
Posted by: Colorado Bob | December 30, 2008 7:58 AM
And Mika was right, you can't get Morning Joe mugs at the NBC store. They had nothing MoJo when I was there this month, but still lots of old stuff from "Friends," and the the like. Who runs marketing for that store?
Posted by: blueINdallas | December 30, 2008 8:00 AM
Bow -
Gently floating from bubble to bubble.
Posted by: Colorado Bob | December 30, 2008 8:00 AM
In today's Craig post Headline:
busines should = business
Posted by: sturgeone | December 30, 2008 8:01 AM
This would make a beautiful Broadway flop -
1731 1st US music concert (Peter Pelham's great room in Boston)
Peter Pelman's Great Room ......... It writes it's self.
Posted by: Colorado Bob | December 30, 2008 8:03 AM
Here is the store's website
http://www.politicalamericana.com/
I absolutely hate that plate commercial. My glurge threshold is very low to begin with but the "kind eyes and confident smile" dialogue complete with uplifting orchestral music is positively nauseating made even more so by knowing they are probably selling them hand over fist.
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 8:14 AM
Today's vid -
As a former T-Shirt vendor this story warms my heart. They don't have to pay a nickel to Obama for his likeness. And their biggest problem is making change.
The T-Shirt business is really fun when you can't make change fast enough.
Posted by: Colorado Bob | December 30, 2008 8:17 AM
patd
While I knew what penultimate was, it doesn't exactly come tripping off the tongue at odd moments. :-) I never knew so many people did so many things on penultimate days. This one of a British series on Big Cats hunting is quite nice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F94xqHBYoz0
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 8:23 AM
CBob
One item in your "this day" list reminded me of a photo I saw recently. If you want to feel a little more elderly than usual, who is this man?
http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/bios/images/nez201.jpg
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 8:26 AM
1 good T-Shirt design can be like a little mini oil well .
You folks are talking to the guy who put "Driller's Do It Deeper" with cool graphics on the front of a shirt.
But one of the best was :
"Please don't tell my mama I work in the Oil Patch, She still thinks I play piano in a whore house."
Posted by: Colorado Bob | December 30, 2008 8:26 AM
Michael Nesmith
Posted by: Colorado Bob | December 30, 2008 8:28 AM
Michael Nesmith
http://www.videoranch.com/
Michael Nesmith's mother invented White Out at her kitchen table.
I loved his movie "Time Rider" what cult classic.
Posted by: Colorado Bob | December 30, 2008 8:32 AM
Michael Nesmith - Cruisin'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRWTz3zY1WY
sunset sam
Posted by: Colorado Bob | December 30, 2008 8:36 AM
Nesmith and Zappa
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgNxuNaYHsk
Posted by: sturgeone | December 30, 2008 8:39 AM
" Kennedy supported Obama, Obama picked HRC, as SOS, freeing up her Senate Seat. So, now it's time for Obama, to pay Teddy Back. And the final bill is The Senate Seat for Caroline."
Lampe,
As far as I'm concerned, that was always a given. Of course a deal was made. How can anyone be so naive as to deny that.
Nothings changed.
........
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/happy-trails-for-the-holidays.html#comment-185487
LOL Corey!
Posted by: chloe
| December 30, 2008 8:41 AM
Timerider (1982) - trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG1jEVcY1pM
Posted by: Colorado Bob | December 30, 2008 8:41 AM
CBob
The list is loaded for me today. I once went to a party in the Santa Monica mountains held by some ex pat Australians whose idea of a party was to take hostages on Friday night and release the still living on Sunday.
One of the other guests was a delightful man named Ted Hamilton whom I didn't recognize and who was introduced as a former Government official. We had an absolutely wonderful political conversation that we got so into that some busy body went and asked his wife (girlfriend?) if she wanted it broken up. Her response and why I've liked Australian women ever since, "For heaven sakes NO! I'm just glad he found someone else to listen to him for a change".
Anyway turns out that in addition to being a politician, he was a singer and actor and had starred as "The Pirate King" in the "The Pirate Movie" based on Pirates of Penzance. It still makes me smile when it turns up on TV.
http://www.anthonypaterson.com/tedhamilton.html
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 8:50 AM
Coming Soon: The 21st Century
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/29/AR2008122901897.html
Posted by: chloe
| December 30, 2008 8:53 AM
But what are they going to give Patterson in return?
Oh wait, you can't do that. Well maybe you can in New York, but not in Illinois.
Posted by: Bowmanc
| December 30, 2008 8:54 AM
The opening score to Timerider :
Baja 100
http://www.rhapsody.com/michael-nesmith/timerider
Posted by: Colorado Bob | December 30, 2008 8:55 AM
Mt. Washington
Temperature 9.9°F
Wind 68.2 mph
Direction 291° (W)
Gust 78.3 mph
Wind Chill -20.0°F
Posted by: Colorado Bob | December 30, 2008 9:04 AM
i tried to sleep, and then I tried to eat some soup by first taking anti-nausea medicine as per the doctor... got a little soup down but it didn't stay there. :-(
Posted by: EuroTom
| December 30, 2008 9:12 AM
CHEYENNE, Wyo. - Yellowstone National Park was jostled by a host of small earthquakes for a third straight day Monday, and scientists watched closely to see whether the more than 250 tremors were a sign of something bigger to come.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28427187/
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When I first posted this yesterday, the number on the Univ. of Utah site was 30 quakes in 2 days.
Posted by: Colorado Bob | December 30, 2008 9:14 AM
Wow, they're still coming fast and furious.
Look at this list -
http://www.seis.utah.edu/req2webdir/recenteqs/Quakes/quakes0.html
Posted by: Colorado Bob | December 30, 2008 9:21 AM
"Michael Nesmith's mother invented White Out at her kitchen table. "
G.I.s on isolated tours have known about whiteout for decades. It went something like this, "I've been gone so long that I'm suffering major whiteout!"
Posted by: Flatus
| December 30, 2008 9:22 AM
In case anyone is on the other side of the date line or wants to start practicing, I have Auld Lang Syne with instructions up on my site:
http://jdurward.blogspot.com/
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 9:26 AM
I wish I had quoted this paragraph when I linked the above article.
"As our case is new, so we must think anew, and act anew," Abraham Lincoln declared in 1862. "We must disenthrall ourselves, and then we shall save our country."
Samuel Huntington's Warning
"As a patriot I am deeply concerned about the unity and strength of my country as a society based on liberty, equality, law and individual rights."
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123060172023141417.html
Posted by: chloe
| December 30, 2008 9:27 AM
12.29.08 -- 7:14PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (151)
The Long Goodbye
I think I have this right. The Republican party has decided on the racial joke issue as the vehicle to reintroduce themselves to the American people after the 2008 blow out.
Am I missing something?
--Josh Marshall
----------------
The party of ideas.
Posted by: Colorado Bob | December 30, 2008 9:28 AM
The Palin family does seem stuck on the "Tr" sound with Track, Trig and now Trip. I wonder if new additions will be Troop, Trek, and Trudge. If there's a girl they can call her Trickle.
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 9:29 AM
Obama Gets Heckled In Hawaii
Barack Obama found himself getting heckled during his Hawaiian vacation, after he asked a cheering crowd whether they liked his golf game. One woman responded: "Better than your bowling."
Posted by: Colorado Bob | December 30, 2008 9:35 AM
" Former Bush advisers say Katrina severely damaged Bush's ability to talk to nation "
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3 weeks folks, just 3 more weeks.
Posted by: Colorado Bob | December 30, 2008 9:38 AM
Well, you know, Chloe....what can I say? Sturge, I will see your earlier "Yeah, but..." and raise it with a "You know...." C-Bob, back in the early 90's if I traveled to Ann Arbor on Saturday afternoons and drove around the campus of U of M after football games, mainly games Michigan lost, there would always be at least one college kid selling freshly printed t-shirts that usually said "F- -k " followed by the name of whichever team beat Michigan that day. But, usually the cops would come and confiscate the shirts within a short time.
Posted by: Corey
| December 30, 2008 9:43 AM
Speaking of the party of ideas, here's 2 more of their ideas.
Virginity pledges go the way of Creationism -
Virginity Pledge Doesn’t Stop Teen Sex
Teenagers Who Take Virginity Pledges No Less Sexually Active, More Likely to Forgo Birth Control, Condoms
http://www.webmd.com/parenting/news/20081229/virginity-pledge-doesnt-stop-teen-sex
Posted by: Colorado Bob | December 30, 2008 9:47 AM
I like the way Bristol Plain's baby waited for this teen sex report to come out. You can't write this stuff folks.
Posted by: Colorado Bob | December 30, 2008 9:53 AM
With Obama toys selling like hot cakes--does that mean that the rest of the country is ok with the way we do things (politics) here in Illinois ?,,,,that's good for us-we just need for you to get distracted for an instant,we will take from there,,,but no complaints later on.
Price of gas --up .10 per gl. at the pump--butr crude is down 1.00 per gl
The hedge fund era as we have known it may have come to an end, with returns evaporating, clients demanding their money and officials eager to tighten regulation, but experts say the industry is poised to emerge stronger once it consolidates, cleans up shop and opens the blinds.
While hedge funds are not required to publicly disclose much information, the industry stands to book its first year of negative performance since private groups first started tracking data about a decade ago. Hedge fund investments lost 22% of their worth through November, according to BarclayHedge, which collects data from around 2,200 funds. In light of the unprecedented turmoil and huge market shifts from day to day, few were nimble enough to avoid losses, leaving hardly any portfolio unscathed
http://i.thestreet.com/files/tsc/v2008/css/images/tsclogo.gif
Posted by: SolarCrete
| December 30, 2008 9:56 AM
" The right has long pushed abstinence-only programs as an alternative to sex education, and the Bush administration has funded those programs to the tune of roughly a billion dollars. "
http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/ajc/bookman/entries/2008/12/30/abstinenceonly_is_a_total_croc.html
Posted by: Colorado Bob | December 30, 2008 9:56 AM
Stocks in U.S. Gain as GMAC Gets Government Money; GM, Ford Shares Advance U.S. stocks climbed, recouping yesterday’s losses, after the government widened its efforts to keep General Motors Corp. out of bankruptcy by shoring up its finance arm.
http://www.bloomberg.com/?b=0
Posted by: SolarCrete
| December 30, 2008 10:04 AM
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Researchers have found out what made the 1918 flu pandemic so deadly -- a group of three genes that lets the virus invade the lungs and cause pneumonia.
http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUSTRE4BS56420081229?feedType=RSS&feedName=healthNews
Posted by: Colorado Bob | December 30, 2008 10:05 AM
This cought my eye because several of my woman relatives were saying that even most of the high quality stores --sorta looked like warehouse stores----all the clothes off the racks,,,no sales people around that much etc.
Saks, Macy's Discounts Spark Spat With Vendors After Holiday Sales Debacle Clothing makers, balking at the deep holiday discounts offered by retailers such as Macy’s Inc., may force department stores to eat more of the markdowns.
Posted by: SolarCrete
| December 30, 2008 10:08 AM
END CORPORATE "PERSONHOOD"
An 1886 Supreme Court clerk's headnotes misreading (Santa Clara County vs. Southern Pacific Railroad) applied the 14th Amendment to corporations, extending to them all the rights, but none of the responsibilities, of human persons. The result has been the steady erosion of our democracy since then, and the consequent rise of the corporate state, which is primarily responsible for the military-corporate-media-academic complex, the expansion of the often brutal U.S. global empire (including the IMF, WTO, and World Bank) with its protecting militarism, and the destruction of our only planet's environment, all in the service of corporate capital's endless lust for power and profits. Corporate personhood is at the core of all of our problems. Ending it is the start of the way back to humane civilization.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/12/30/01647/229/976/678374
Posted by: Colorado Bob | December 30, 2008 10:15 AM
"The Palin family does seem stuck on the "Tr" sound with Track, Trig and now Trip. I wonder if new additions will be Troop, Trek, and Trudge. If there's a girl they can call her Trickle."
jamie, you left out trudy, trish, trina, tramp and trollop...
Posted by: patd | December 30, 2008 10:22 AM
This Vanity Fair issue on the Bush presidency is really fascinating and quotable.
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2009/02/bush-oral-history200902
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 10:26 AM
patd & jamie,
Me, I'd go with trichonosis.
That VF issue is valuable. Also look for Draper's GQ interviews with Bush.
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| December 30, 2008 10:28 AM
"a sign of bigger things to come"
cbob, like this?
"Researchers have long predicted that the Yellowstone supervolcano will eventually erupt again, with devastating consequences for much of the United States. Half the country could be covered in ash up to 3 feet (1 meter) deep, one study predicts. But those same researchers say nothing suggests such an eruption is imminent. They point out, however, that Yellowstone seems to blow its top about every 600,000 years."
http://www.livescience.com/environment/081230-yellowstone-earthquake-swarm.html
Posted by: patd | December 30, 2008 10:31 AM
"Half the country could be covered in ash up to 3 feet..."
that'd put a new meaning to ash wednesday
Posted by: patd | December 30, 2008 10:33 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/obamabilia-big-busines-in-dc.html#comment-185580
I didn't think Tramp and Trollop would be on the names list because that could lead to Tricks.
Other possibilities: Train and Trike for unusually mobile offspring.
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 10:33 AM
jamie, thanks for the vanity fair article link. but that photo! what a way to not make my day. did you look in the eyes of some of those folks? scaaarry. bet if they held up a mirror to some there'd be no reflection.
Posted by: patd | December 30, 2008 10:40 AM
Follow the money?
SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- A U.S. Bankruptcy court judge approved a transfer of $28.1 million from Bank of New York Mellon Corp. (BK:
bank of new york mellon corp com
to cover expenses associated with the liquidation of Bernard Madoff's firm, according to media reports Tuesday. On Dec. 15, the Securities Investor Protection Corporation said it was liquidating Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities LLC and a federal court appointed Irving Picard as trustee of the liquidation. Picard later filed court documents stating he needed the money to help cover employee salaries and other costs associated with the liquidation.
Posted by: SolarCrete
| December 30, 2008 10:41 AM
C-Bob,
I have to take issue with your daily history source. Congressional Quarterly's trivia question today mentioned that yesterday was the bicentennial of Andrew Johnson's birth.
Your source told us about:
1721 Madame De Pompadour mistress of French King Louis the 15th
but left out our 15th President. I checked it out. They had cake and ice cream yesterday in Greeneville, TN to mark the occasion.
Posted by: EdVB
| December 30, 2008 10:42 AM
U.S. December consumer confidence below 45.8 expected
SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Just when you thought it was safe to settle down for a quiet end to a really rough year, Hamas and Israel decided to mix it up again.
As Hamas lobs rockets into Israel, Israel pounds Hamas and the death toll mounts, the few energy traders out there who decided not to take the week off predictably ran up crude prices to match the bloody score in Gaza. Read about latest oil price spike.
Once again, news from that violent corner of the planet sends a shiver through the economy, reminding everyone that the break we've enjoyed from high oil prices was fragile and that anything that smells like heightened tension in the Middle East can -- and will -- jack oil prices higher in a flash.
The U.S. markets have been transfixed for the past few months by the calamity on Wall Street and billion-dollar bailouts thrown at the banks and auto makers. The luxury, if we can call it that, of being able to focus on core problems in the financial sector has been possible in part because crude oil prices have plunged from their record highs, eliminating a major distraction.
Gasoline prices are back below $2 a gallon, where most Americans think they belong. This has brought welcome relief to the economy. Imagine how much worse those all-important holiday retail sales might have been if gas prices had remained at $4 a gallon. Imagine also how much more damaging oil imports would have been to the nation's already huge trade deficit if they had remained close to their $147-per-barrel peak in July.
http://www.marketwatch.com/
Posted by: SolarCrete
| December 30, 2008 10:48 AM
that annie leibowitz photo of the cabinet would make a great backdrop for all sorts of motivational events.....
darts
socratic lesson plans
bar ethics exams
letterman lists
anger management
phobia desensitizing
Posted by: patd | December 30, 2008 10:52 AM
"-does that mean that the rest of the country is ok with the way we do things (politics) here in Illinois ?,,,,that's good for us-we just need for you to get distracted for an instant,we will take from there,,,but no complaints later on."
Ha Solar! I always reserve my right to complain. :)
Posted by: chloe
| December 30, 2008 10:55 AM
Since this is the penultimate day of December, I think Fearless leader should take a break from writing in order to make like Santa Claus and show up on all of our doorsteps at exactly 12:01 AM on Jan 1 as the dark haired first footer armed with the traditional Scotch and a lump of coal.
"A custom known as "first footing" dictates that the first person to cross a home's threshold after midnight on New Year's Eve will determine the home-owner's luck for the new year. The ideal visitor bears gifts—preferably whiskey, coal for the fire, small cakes, or a coin—and should be a man with a dark complexion. Why? The answer hearkens back to the 8th century, when the presumably fair-haired Vikings invaded Scotland: a blond visitor was not a good omen. "
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 10:55 AM
leibovitz photo in vf article
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2009/02/bush-oral-history200902
Posted by: patd | December 30, 2008 10:56 AM
"tramp and trollop... "
And which little girl would you give those names to????
By the way, my daughter's name is Tracy. Sorry.
Posted by: Patsi
| December 30, 2008 10:59 AM
highly recommend this particular "lump of coal"
http://www.cbc.ca/arts/books/story/2008/12/24/lemony-snicket.html
patsi, your maria would love to hear this one read to her i bet.
p.s. poor joke on my part re disparaging names. a dozen mea culpas and 3 furtive snickers.
Posted by: patd | December 30, 2008 11:04 AM
We could bomb the surrounding states if they don't cooperate-
The US Government’s Secret Colorado Oil Discovery
Rense
Hidden 1,000 feet beneath the surface of the Rocky Mountains lies the largest untapped oil reserve in the world - more than 2 TRILLION barrels. On August 8, 2005 President Bush mandated its extraction. Three companies have been chosen to lead the way. Test drilling has already begun
Dear Reader,
Five months ago, the U.S. Energy Department announced the results of a land survey
It was conducted to determine the official amount of oil a thousand feet deep in the Rocky Mountains
They reported this stunning news:
We have more oil inside our borders, than all the other proven reserves on earth.
Here are the official estimates:
* 8-times as much oil as Saudi Arabia
* 18-times as much oil as Iraq
* 21-times as much oil as Kuwait
* 22-times as much oil as Iran
* 500-times as much oil as Yemen
And it’s all right here in the Western United States.
James Bartis, lead researcher with the study says, “We’ve got more oil in this very compact area than the entire Middle East.”
More than 2 TRILLION barrels. Untapped.
“That’s more than all the proven oil reserves of crude oil in the world today,” reports The Denver Post. --- More very interesting comments from the first commentator
http://www.marketwatch.com/
Posted by: SolarCrete
| December 30, 2008 11:06 AM
"Ha Solar! I always reserve my right to complain. :)"
Ok ----but you have to be an Il resident for at least one snow fall,,that is the bad thing-----you helping me shovel out of the next one,,,is a good thing,,,,,and this will allow you to shout out all you complaints.---later
Posted by: SolarCrete
| December 30, 2008 11:10 AM
Reminder: Kennedy Center Honors ceremony will be broadcast tonight. Honorees: Morgan Freeman, George Jones, Barbra Streisand, Twyla Tharp, Pete Townshend and Roger Daltrey.
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 11:11 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/obamabilia-big-busines-in-dc.html#comment-185597
Solar, Sounds like fun. How much destruction could we manage by hauling it all out for burning. I've got a better idea. Let's leave it there for a few million more years and see if it turns into diamonds.
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 11:15 AM
I think Maria is a bit young and happy for the Lemony Snicket experience....probably now three-year old material... :)
Posted by: Patsi
| December 30, 2008 11:20 AM
"you have to wait till they are least 16 before you can call them a tramp or trollop. Patience is a virtue!"
Nice talk. Thanks for the oink.
Posted by: Patsi
| December 30, 2008 11:22 AM
Jamie-----we have to leave it there, and let it turn into diamonds........if we don't we will be rushing that little boom from Yellow Stone Park--good thing Obama is in----or the big money people would get their way on this also???but every thing is changing into ME any way Solar panels and more energy efficient means----this why Im very comfortable with Obamas choice of Energy Sec.
Posted by: SolarCrete
| December 30, 2008 11:25 AM
Can the Vatican be looking at the % of converts here? lets get them Baptized and they are ours forever--lot s of young minds to manipulate.
Vatican Issues Instruction on Bioethics
The Vatican issued its most authoritative and sweeping document on bioethical issues in more than 20 years on Friday, taking into account recent developments in biomedical technology and reinforcing the church’s opposition to in vitro fertilization, human cloning, genetic testing on embryos before implantation and embryonic stem cell research.
The Vatican says these techniques violate the principles that every human life — even an embryo — is sacred, and that babies should be conceived only through intercourse by a married couple.
The 32-page instruction, titled “Dignitas Personae,” or “The Dignity of the Person,” was issued by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the Vatican’s doctrinal office, and carries the approval and the authority of Pope Benedict XVI.
Under discussion for six years, it is a moral response to bioethical questions raised in the 21 years since the congregation last issued instructions.
It bans the morning-after pill, the intrauterine device and the pill RU-486, saying these can result in what amount to abortions.
The Vatican document reiterates that the church is opposed to research on stem cells derived from embryos. But it does not oppose research on stem cells derived from adults; blood from umbilical cords; or fetuses “who have died of natural causes.”
The document does not prohibit the use of vaccines developed using “cell lines of illicit origin” if children’s health is at stake. But it says that “everyone has the duty” to inform health care providers of personal objections to such vaccines.
The church also objects to freezing embryos, arguing that doing so exposes them to potential damage and manipulation, and that it raises the problem of what to do with frozen embryos that are not implanted. There are at least 400,000 of these in the United States alone.
“Our advice is that freezing should not take place,” said Bishop Elio Sgreccia, president emeritus of the Pontifical Academy for Life. “Because once it is done, you’re in a situation where to correct the error implies a further offense. Once you have them, what do you do with them?”
The Vatican’s intended audience is not only individual Roman Catholics, but also non-Catholic doctors, scientists, medical researchers and legislators who might consider regulating stem cell research and other recent developments in biomedical technology.
http://science.videosift.com/
Posted by: SolarCrete
| December 30, 2008 12:01 PM
"bogus indignation"
If you think my indignation at calling teenage girls tramps is bogus then you are one stupid mofo. Indignition doesn't even begin to describe how I feel about attacking young women.
Posted by: Patsi
| December 30, 2008 12:01 PM
None of this Obama merch can EVER top the Jimmy Carter roach clip: a plastic peanut with Jimmy's grin (attached to the standard yet handy aligator clip, of course).
Oh, and hi everybody, long time, no see!
Posted by: Julia | December 30, 2008 12:03 PM
And Zbig is annoyingly arrogant.
Posted by: Flatus
| December 30, 2008 12:10 PM
I agree Flatus -- Ziggy is insufferable. And I don't know when Scarborough decided to jump back on the "W" train. For a while he bashed him....now he's the go-to apologist.
Posted by: Patsi
| December 30, 2008 12:12 PM
Patsi, indignition totally deserves being a word. Send it to the Atlantic Monthly immediately.
Posted by: Flatus
| December 30, 2008 12:13 PM
"probably now three-year old material... :)"
patsi, this one is different and any 3 yr olders that i know would happily listen to the u.s. tax code if read to by a lovable fun to be with granny like you.
the flap describes it as "a story about a lump of coal who can think, talk, and move itself around." on the back: "Miracles can happen, even to those who are small, flammable, and dressed all in black."
see pix of lump
http://www.harpercollins.com/books/9780061574283/The_Lump_of_Coal/index.aspx
Posted by: patd | December 30, 2008 12:14 PM
Flatus,
"Indignition" seems to be where someone might stick a busted key to turn a rather low powered motor over and over and over again... all in the name of never getting anywhere in life.
O the joys of turning life's wheel and feeling the car move, eh, Patsi?
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| December 30, 2008 12:17 PM
I kind of see it as being steroidal indignation/
Posted by: Flatus
| December 30, 2008 12:19 PM
patd,
"Miracles can happen, even to those who are small, flammable, and dressed all in black."
Finally -- a children's book about the Ramones.
Long overdue.
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| December 30, 2008 12:19 PM
"you helping me shovel out of the next one,,,is a good thing,,,,,and this will allow you to shout out all you complaints"
Whoa Solar. Me shoveling snow is not what I had in mind. I prefer to complain from the warmth of where I am now. Sorry buddy :)
Posted by: chloe
| December 30, 2008 12:20 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/obamabilia-big-busines-in-dc.html#comment-185597
It went a long way to explain Mika. She kept saying, now you know what it was like growing up with him. Maybe all those little girl giggles when daddy is on the show is defensive behavior.
Of course if her sweaters get any tighter, she might as well arrive nude.
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 12:23 PM
Blagyovich is going to announce Obama's replacement this afternoon. AG Roland Burris.
Posted by: rosiethecat
| December 30, 2008 12:24 PM
General Roland Burris to be named to Obama seat.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_Burris
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 12:26 PM
jamie,
Well, if she'll tighten them up a mite, Scarborough will rename Our Miss Mikaccino his intergalactic supernovastar.
Posted by: 9/11 survivor (sort of)
| December 30, 2008 12:26 PM
"whoa Solar"---Damn that stopped me in my tracks--haha,,but I do like my new middle name----Whoa Solar---think before you post and insert foot--tanks
Posted by: SolarCrete
| December 30, 2008 12:30 PM
Rosie
Thanks---Roland Burris--I have always liked him,,he will know how to get re-elected,,,,and will get help from our Mayor in order to do so,,I think... Where have you been hiding out at?
Posted by: SolarCrete
| December 30, 2008 12:40 PM
from reading the bio, sounds like burris has publically served and campaigned enough to have had all the requisite rocks looked under and questions asked and answered.
gov blago is one wiley nutball.
Posted by: patd | December 30, 2008 12:42 PM
I know nothing about him other than the wiki that was linked. From it, he looks like a perennial candidate, albeit one who has only been elected once.
Posted by: Flatus
| December 30, 2008 12:56 PM
Aha -- I hadn't heard of the different "take" with the coal Snicket....
and patd -- you are so right-- Blago is pretty wiley!
Posted by: Patsi
| December 30, 2008 1:05 PM
"Medvedev may wait until Putin loses his popularity as the economy worsens by the day and dismiss him," independent political analyst Dmitry Oreshkin was quoted by online Gazeta.ru as saying. - In a New Year's wish to President-elect Barack Obama, Medvedev suggested the two nations could expand their cooperation on the basis of "pragmatism and a balance of interests."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081230/ap_on_re_eu/eu_russia_presidential_term;_ylt=AtOTjsLK5y9fC63vZl2H0C1H2ocA
Posted by: blueINdallas | December 30, 2008 1:13 PM
innocent newborn babies are fair game now ?
Posted by: mqw | December 30, 2008 1:20 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/obamabilia-big-busines-in-dc.html#comment-185616
Indignition - could also be a mob hit depending upon who you upset.
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 1:34 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/obamabilia-big-busines-in-dc.html#comment-185630
No but their ditzy parents who name the child and then sell the photos for multi thousands of dollars are.
BTW, here are the most notable celebrity flights from sanity of the celebrity naming game. Apple is probably okay, but Fifi Trixibelle and Pilot Inspektor?
http://www.cracked.com/article_15765_20-most-bizarre-celebrity-baby-names.html
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 1:42 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/obamabilia-big-busines-in-dc.html#comment-185611
Hi Julia,
What have you been up to?
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 1:44 PM
For the soup lovers out there, I found a great recipe. Please read all instructions so that you don't start chopping on someone from Stockholm.
http://athousandsoups.blogspot.com/2008/12/guest-post-caramelised-root-vegetable.html
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 2:00 PM
the same people who voted for obama in the general election' are the same people who voted no to same-
sex marriage
now thats irony
Posted by: mqw | December 30, 2008 2:07 PM
".....he looks like a perennial candidate, albeit one who has only been elected once."
flatus, funny how two people, reading the same data, can come away with such different views. i was impressed that burris was elected statewide and served 11 yrs as comptroller and 4 more as ag (rare for an aa at a that time). so he was beaten by the daily machine.... who hasn't been?
Posted by: patd | December 30, 2008 2:21 PM
daley, not daily.... my mind's been dwelling on jon stewart lately.
Posted by: patd | December 30, 2008 2:24 PM
http://www.theonion.com/content/index
Better satire
Huffpo's 236 is lame like the people who read it and pretend it's real
Posted by: sock drawer open | December 30, 2008 2:34 PM
it can't be comforting to Obama to know that as a man who smokes, he's 23 times more likely to get lung cancer than a man who doesn't smoke. Taxpayers will foot his medical bills.
Posted by: sock drawer open | December 30, 2008 2:57 PM
Obama recently drew headlines when he described the more than 3,000 Americans killed in Iraq since 2003 as wasted lives. (He subsequently apologized.) But he should know that about 600,000 Americans have died of lung cancer during the four years of the Iraq war -- almost all of them because of smoking.
Posted by: sock drawer open | December 30, 2008 2:57 PM
"Taxpayers will foot his medical bills."
We're already picking up all the Medicare, Medicaid and disability hospital bills....why not Obama's smoking problems?
Posted by: Patsi
| December 30, 2008 3:40 PM
so predictable ?
The cheap shot at the expense of the Clintons.
Posted by: sock drawer open | December 30, 2008 3:41 PM
Anybody up for some shoe throwing?
Posted by: Corey
| December 30, 2008 3:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIduOvEoVeQ
Posted by: sock drawer open | December 30, 2008 4:17 PM
Another Jazz great gone. Freddie Hubbard dies Monday at age 70
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/4031471/Freddie-Hubbard.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLS4sSwoug8
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 4:42 PM
Rude in one way, just as rude in another.
Posted by: Lampe | December 30, 2008 4:45 PM
Every once in a while The Onion comes eerily near absolute truth
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/amazon_recommendations_understand
On the Huffpo bit. Just one more shot in the decades long diatribe against the Clintons created by the right and believed and adopted by the left. Teach them to serve their nation. At least they will get to bring down the ball on New Year's Eve.
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 4:50 PM
My war with Lou Dobbs begins .................
It was 82 degrees outside my greenhouse today.
Join me , I will bring victory.
Lou Dobbs, must go.
Posted by: Colorado Bob | December 30, 2008 4:50 PM
I'm glad you are online Ed...I wanted to ask you about Peter King's potential at a Senate run in New York. Would he have a shot at taking that Senate seat next time out?
Posted by: Patsi
| December 30, 2008 4:52 PM
Could all the 'stuff' be American made.
Just teasing y'all.
tt
Posted by: tiptoe
| December 30, 2008 4:53 PM
I have Lou Dobb's balls in my pocket girls.
Posted by: Colorado Bob | December 30, 2008 4:53 PM
This is a little more on the Morning Load-Zig meltdown
http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/diary/2717
Too bad the Mayor of Looneyville is too self-involved to get the full impact of the insult.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker
| December 30, 2008 4:54 PM
The Lou Dobbs Show is as dead as steam power locomotives.
Posted by: Colorado Bob | December 30, 2008 4:56 PM
CBob, You have an ally in Senor Horsedooty. I'll help half the time. The man makes me crazy with his racist rants and then he will say something sensible such as fighting terrorism being a police and investigative matter not a war.
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 4:56 PM
That Onion piece is hilarious, Jamie. Although I will give my ex credit -- one day in the early 70s he was in a record store and this album was playing. He brought it home thinking I'd love it...and he was right on the money.
Dory Previn, Live at Carnegie Hall
http://tinyurl.com/9xtxyp
Posted by: Patsi
| December 30, 2008 4:59 PM
Lou Dobbs Concern Troll for America
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker
| December 30, 2008 5:03 PM
Patsi,
I'm far from an expert, but that's never stopped me from offering an opinion. Peter King is as visible as any Republican in the state right now, but even saying that, I'd bet 75% of the upstate voters don't know who he is, or anything about him. Certainly, Giuliani is a bigger name, but he's more apt to seek the Governor's Mansion than the Senate seat and I haven't seen or heard anything about him, since long before Election Day.
As blue as New York has been in recent presidential elections, there are still many upstate counties that have historically been Republican strongholds. (I live in one of them.) Also, we have had long serving Republican Senators in Al D'amato and Jacob Javits, so it's not beyond the realm of possibility for someone like Congressman King to have a shot.
He seems to have a talent for being both abrasive and either likable or reasonable at the same time. In case you haven't noticed it on this blog, abrasive plays well in New York City. Not so much in my part of the world.
King is definitely smart to get his name out there early and to take free shots at Carolyn Kennedy or anyone else, who might be considered by Governor Paterson.
If the person Paterson appoints, gets out there and works as hard as Senator Clinton did, and appears to be effective, King may decide to stay right where he is. If the appointee stumbles, or appears to be less than ambitious, King will be ready to shake a lot of hands and eat a lot of chicken in upstate New York, and he'll definitely have a fighting chance at the seat.
Posted by: EdVB
| December 30, 2008 5:17 PM
Oops, don't let Craig know I misspelled Caroline's name. Not that he cares so much about her, but I've had him believing I was perfect.
Posted by: EdVB
| December 30, 2008 5:24 PM
Jamie; 1:34 pm ........................."Indignation = Mob Hit", that is truly funny, or maybe you just have to be as cynical as I am........... I need your help, I'm so damn computer illiterate, that I don't know how to add a link to a picture or card, can you help me out?
Rita
Posted by: politicallypissed
| December 30, 2008 5:33 PM
Interesting thoughts, Ed....maybe the only thing that concerns me about Caroline is the possibility that she may take the appointment, then not really like actually running for office and open the door for an aggressive campaigner like King. (I'm pretty sure Caroline wouldn't be fighting Schumer for the television cameras....)
Posted by: Patsi
| December 30, 2008 5:37 PM
About the Christmas truce here, thank-you all for holding your keyboards. I didn't think you'd all do it, but you did. We really had a bit of peace and good words here.
For those that really don't know me. A bit of back ground.
It was on this thread many moons ago, that I said :
"Thank You Keith Olberman"
Note to the reader-
I was 57 when iI taught myself how to throw up web pages, and I did it right here. Fritz taught me hyper-links here on this thread.
So , I don't shoot blanks on the web folks.
And I'm telling you, that Lou Dobbs must go !
Thank-You Keith Olberman -
Now has 33,488 hits when I got this link today, and ToledoNative has run it for nearly as long ...... and done it well I might add. ToledoNative where ever you are, an "Atta Boy or Girl" to you for each and every post. we may have to start a new one for our friend Mr. Olberman.
He needs work. And he needs it now.
WHY .... September 13th 2006
DAY #1 SCORE :
ATTA BOYS : 57
posted by COLORADO BOB at 9/13/2006 09:35:00 AM
http://thank-you-keith-olbermann.blogspot.com/2006/09/why-september-13th-2006.html
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I'm tellin' you all Lou Dobbs Must Go !
Posted by: Colorado Bob | December 30, 2008 5:41 PM
CBob
I never watch him anymore. As far as I'm concerned, he is gone. Now if everyone will copy this useful action....
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 5:46 PM
Rita
Go to the page that you want to copy.
Right click on the address at the top of the page (it will turn blue and a menu will drop down)
move your cursor down to "Copy" on the menu and left click.
Come back here, put cursor in the box
Right click (menu will drop down) and go down to "Paste".
Left click and the URL for what you want people to see will be in the box.
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 5:50 PM
I'm tellin' you all Lou Dobbs Must Go !
Which is why I set-up The Shin Bone Star last July.
http://the-shin-bone-star.blogspot.com/
-----------------
Dutton Peaboby lives, and he's on a mission -
Lou Dobbs Must Go !
Posted by: Colorado Bob | December 30, 2008 5:52 PM
Jamie -
Thanks .... deniers aren't the only ones that can manufacture web based bullshit.
I'll be calling on everyone here.
Lou Dobbs Must Go !
Posted by: Colorado Bob | December 30, 2008 6:01 PM
Dearest Dutton,
I'm glad I didn't see that show as the top of my head would have blown off and I really need it for a while yet.
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 6:03 PM
Patsi,
Yes, someone suggested the other day that Caroline may be running because it's what her Uncle Ted wanted. If that's her primary motivation, she's not likely to be a good senator. That is, unless she just happens to be one of those super-motivated kids who jumps in with both feet for any challenge.
Chuck Shumer will always be there when any camera is rolling or hot microphone is available, but just because of who she is, Caroline will get as much news exposure as she's willing to handle.
Right now, Peter King is hoping Caroline gets the nod because he thinks his experience will trump her name. I'm hoping that in two years, we'll be able to say, "Peter, you should have been careful what you wished for."
Caroline needs to get in the Senate now. That way, she'll always have seniority over Chris Matthews, IF he makes it.
Posted by: EdVB
| December 30, 2008 6:09 PM
Yes -- I posted that Uncle Ted theory, because someone who ought to know told me that he had pushed her on it. (Not in any bad way, I should say -- I believe he really wants the line to continue and thinks she'd do a great job. And she certainly might.)
Boy I do hope Chris Matthews goes down in flames if he runs in a primary. He sends no thrill up my leg.
Posted by: Patsi
| December 30, 2008 6:17 PM
Great moments in Lou Dobbs History
last summer's drunk pundit (or drugged)
And Dobbs is such a failure --the two border patrol agents are still in jail and scooter libby is not.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker
| December 30, 2008 6:18 PM
By the way, I'm starting to get a kick out of Blago....he's great theater. Those zany Serbs!
Posted by: Patsi
| December 30, 2008 6:19 PM
And Mika's arrogant attitude toward Burris is somewhat off putting.
Posted by: Patsi
| December 30, 2008 6:22 PM
Patsi
Agree. What was that about. She was grilling him as if he had been charged with bribing a public official. Burris may be a go along to get along political type but he didn't deserve that grilling or insulting tone.
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 6:32 PM
Lou Dobbs Must Go !
See folks, as Lou Dobbs was putting up his felony based climate experts, before he took his 2 week Christmas vacation.
I got a RECORD EVENT REPORT from the National Weather Service. This came to my house this fall :
RECORD EVENT REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LUBBOCK, TX
230 AM CDT FRI SEP 12 2008
...RECORD DAILY MAXIMUM RAINFALL SET AT LUBBOCK...
A RECORD RAINFALL OF 7.46 INCHES WAS SET AT LUBBOCK YESTERDAY...
SEP 11...THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 2.64 SET IN 1917. IT ALSO
BREAKS THE ALL-TIME CALENDAR DAY RECORD OF 5.70 INCHES SET ON JUNE 1
1967...AND IT BREAKS THE ALL-TIME 24-HOUR RAINFALL RECORD OF 5.82
INCHES SET ON OCTOBER 18 AND 19 1983.
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Except, .... it rained more at my house, ( 8 1/2 in. in 24 hrs.)
I have seen 3 rain fall events here, at Lubbock, Texas at my house, that are each a "one off" events. And I've seen them in the last 21 months.
7.46 INCHES in 24 hours belongs in the Amazon, not Lubbock, Texas.
Posted by: Colorado Bob | December 30, 2008 6:33 PM
"Agree. What was that about. She was grilling him as if he had been charged with bribing a public official. Burris may be a go along to get along political type but he didn't deserve that grilling or insulting tone."
I know, Jamie. I was embarrassed by the way she came at him. And as far as I could tell, it wasn't even supposed to be her interview.
Posted by: Patsi
| December 30, 2008 6:38 PM
Sorry for the screaming, but that's what the NWS posts are.
Record Event Reports from them are never in lower case.
I've read hundreds of them, you should see the summer of 07' in Montana. Montana never saw a summer like the one in 07'.
Posted by: Colorado Bob | December 30, 2008 6:41 PM
Bought some cold medicine tonight. The cashier asked me what my birth date was. I was surprised, then I remembered. Oh yeah...meth labs.
Posted by: Corey
| December 30, 2008 6:43 PM
Well at least we know she is being serious. She put on a jacket.
Ick! Catty is me. She's been rubbing me the wrong way all day.
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 6:45 PM
Lou Dobbs Must Go !
Posted by: Colorado Bob | December 30, 2008 6:46 PM
Just figured it out. Mika seems to be channeling Greta Van Susteren today.
Thank goodness Rachel is on in an hour
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 6:47 PM
RIP Ann Savage
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Anne_savaged2.jpg
Posted by: Patsi
| December 30, 2008 6:50 PM
"Bought some cold medicine tonight. The cashier asked me what my birth date was."
Corey --also, my druggest told me there's a huge spike in teens shoplifting cold medications and asthma "puffers."
Posted by: Patsi
| December 30, 2008 6:52 PM
Nice write up on Ann Savage
http://www.winnipegsun.com/news/winnipeg/2008/12/29/7871001-sun.html
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 6:54 PM
Thanks -- Great tribute quote from that write-up, Jamie:
"She's the fiercest femme fatale in the history of film noir,"
Love it!
Posted by: Patsi
| December 30, 2008 7:01 PM
Just in case anyone wants to know why health care is draining families and taxpayers....because it's not really "health" care....
Just had a call from someone who had to fly east to be with his 90-something grandmother. Over a year and a half ago she had a stroke (it was the least of her medical problems) -- but a neighbor found her barely alive and the med techs electrocuted her back to life. Since that time her quality of life has been terrible. My friend says hundreds of thousands of dollars have now been spent to keep her in an absolutely horrible state, something she had never wanted but had never translated into a legal statement. Her home has now been sold to keep moving her from one facility to another. One of the few things she's said was to the friend who found her -- "Why did you call 911?"
Make that living will, sports fans.
Posted by: Patsi
| December 30, 2008 7:14 PM
Philip J Berg has a new lawsuit challenging Obama’s eligibility:
"Berg today, with co-counsel Lawrence J. Joyce, Esquire, filed another lawsuit in Federal Court in the United States District for the District of Columbia on behalf of Retired Colonel Hollister against Barry Soetoro a/k/a Barack Hussein Obama demanding to know Obama’s real name and if he is constitutionally qualified to be President. Plaintiff, Gregory S. Hollister, is a resident of Colorado Springs, Colorado and Hollister has “standing” and needs a decision so he knows whether or not to follow any Order of Soetoro a/k/a Obama.
The suit is in the nature of an Interpleader that shifts the burden of proof to the Defendants, Soetoro a/k/a Obama and Biden to show that they are “qualified” for office."
http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2008/12/30/philip-j-berg-lawrence-j-joyce-esquire-retired-colonel-hollister-lawsuit-december-30-2008-obama%E2%80%99s-lack-of-qualifications-challenged-gregory-s-hollister-hollister-has-standing-inter/
Posted by: GORDO | December 30, 2008 7:21 PM
Montana's Preliminary Climate Statistics For July 2007 -
JULY 2007 WAS NOT ONLY THE HOTTEST JULY ON RECORD, BUT ALSO THE HOTTEST MONTH ON RECORD BY FAR.
http://coloradobob1.newsvine.com/_news/2007/08/05/878999-montanas-preliminary-climate-statistics-for-july-2007-
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If the earth is cooling why did this happen in Montana last year ?
Posted by: Colorado Bob | December 30, 2008 7:22 PM
Colorado Bob,
¡El doktor senor Horsedooty reporting for dooty!
Lou Dobbs must go.
Posted by: yo soy Horsedooty!
| December 30, 2008 7:37 PM
I'm on that bandwagon. Lou Dobbs must go. What shall we do? Let's mobilize. CBob is in charge with Senior Dooty second in command.
Posted by: zoey
| December 30, 2008 7:44 PM
Patsi,
2006 statistics:
Estimates show that about 27% of Medicare's annual $327 billion budget goes to care for patients in their final year of life.
A majority of that in the last 30 days.
Carol
Posted by: ct | December 30, 2008 7:48 PM
One question C-Bob.....why Dobbs first? Not Limbaugh? Hannity? Who is the biggest offender?
Posted by: Patsi
| December 30, 2008 7:48 PM
I am not answering for Colorado Bob, but for me, Dobbs is the most devious. Network cable show on CNN. Makes it look the most respectable. Hannity has a cable show also but he is on Fox and that in and of itself is suspect.
Posted by: yo soy Horsedooty!
| December 30, 2008 7:55 PM
Jamie; 5:50 pm ...................... Thanks so Much but I surely must be dense, everything works until I "right click" in the comment box, the menu shows, but paste will not come up. Any thoughts ??? BTW, I didn't like that "plate commercial" either, maybe it's just me, but
it seems to cheapen the process.
Rita
Posted by: politicallypissed
| December 30, 2008 8:01 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/obamabilia-big-busines-in-dc.html#comment-185705
The living will is important, but even more so for emergency situations is the POLST (Physician Orders for Life Sustaining Treatment). You can get a copy from your physician. Make sure that doctor has a signed copy, that you have a copy in your papers, and that anyone likely to be making decisions on your behalf has a copy. Some hospitals will keep them on file as well or you can hand it to them any time you have to go to the hospital for anything.
It is a DETAILED list of treatment to be given under a variety of circumstances if you are not able to speak for yourself.
For example, I've chosen moderate intervention (feeding tubes, oxygen etc.) as long as recovery can be practically expected, but if not send me to a hospice, make me as comfy with drugs as possible and leave me alone.
Physicians are legally required to adhere to the signed and witnessed POLST
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 8:09 PM
Rita
left click to place cursor.
right click to get pull down menu. "Paste" is the fourth item down on the list.
left click on paste.
The link you copied should be there.
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 8:13 PM
Doots -- I take your point. But I think Rush Limbaugh has actually altered the landscape of America. I know people who have completely changed outlook and personality because of listening to him. And just look how insidious HE is -- all that Oxycontin, and we're still talking about some woman with a few pills in Alaska....Rush got a pass.
Posted by: Patsi
| December 30, 2008 8:25 PM
I Love Hannity and FOX News. Unlike CNN, they let both sides voice their opinions. And, they are not Obama Worshippers.
Posted by: Lampe | December 30, 2008 8:32 PM
Rita, If you're still having problems, here is a you tube video that shows you how to copy and paste. Which is what you're doing when you copy that address bar (which is called the url address) of the page you want to link to from here.
How to Copy and Paste
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c66pvfilotA
Posted by: chloe
| December 30, 2008 8:33 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/obamabilia-big-busines-in-dc.html#comment-185717
Lampe
FOX has been caught in so many outright lies and distortions that to call it "both sides" is absolutely laughable.
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 8:54 PM
What outright lies and distortions?
Posted by: Lampe | December 30, 2008 8:57 PM
If your state has a POLST program, you can get the forms here
http://www.ohsu.edu/ethics/polst/programs/state+programs.htm
If not, copy a form and suggest to your doctor that they establish a statewide program
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 8:59 PM
Lampe,
The list is too darn long. I'll try and find some of the worst for you. Hannity is among the greatest offenders for total absence of factual content even to the extent of news people at FOX broadcasting news that he then contradicts with on his show.
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 9:02 PM
Just because he is asking questions about the Chosen One, doesn't make them lies. He did sit in rev. wright's church for over 20years, he was and probably still is friends with a man who bombed buildings in the United States (Ayers). And, he hasn't been in the Senate long enough to do anything but vote PRESENT. those are not lies, those are truths. Like it or not Obama, has alot of skeltons in his closet. And, was did it always take him so long to come out against, someone or something from his past?
Posted by: Lampe | December 30, 2008 9:08 PM
fox news......fair and balanced.............ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
only in america
Posted by: sturgeone | December 30, 2008 9:19 PM
Lampe
Someone took the time to write down some of the worst in 2004. Nothing has changed, but I'll try to find something more current. He regularly uses quotes out of context and twists what was said. Since there is no one to correct him except other shows, it often sounds reasonable.
http://www.prisonplanet.tv/articles/september2004/230904seanhannity.htm
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 9:22 PM
Obama, Truthful and a U.S. Citizen. HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!! See I have a sense of humor just like all of you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Lampe | December 30, 2008 9:22 PM
Misinformer of the Year: Sean Hannity
http://mediamatters.org/items/200812170007
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 9:26 PM
Lampe your sense of humor truly surpasses mine......after all you say you supported Hillary Clinton for president and you think fox news is fair and balanced.....
THAT'S funny......
Posted by: sturgeone | December 30, 2008 9:26 PM
Another batch of Hannity lies
http://www.newshounds.us/2008/09/16/lies_and_smears_from_sean_hannity_at_the_values_voters_summit.php
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 9:30 PM
First off, I did and still do support HRC. After the lousy way in which she was treated, by her own Party, and the way CNN was kisssing Obama's Butt. I got pissed off at the whole bunch of them. These are a few of the people who kissed his butt the most. Martin, Matthews,Blitzer,Madcow,Brazile,Cooper And last but not least Olbermann. They are the main reason I sought out people who were not totally in Love with The chosen One.
Posted by: Lampe | December 30, 2008 9:33 PM
Sturgeone
That could produce uncontrolable hysterics. Supporting Hillary and believing FOX is definitely an oxymoron.
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 9:35 PM
Michelle Obama, did say "America is a downright evil and mean Country." So therefore that is not a lie.
Posted by: Lampe | December 30, 2008 9:35 PM
I have been a Democrat, for as long as I could vote. Just because I don't like the candidate they picked for me, doesn't make me any less a Democrat. You all sit here and say Republicans are stupid for supporting their candidates. So if they are stupid for that what does that make a Democrat, who will support the wrong person just because he is a Democrat?
Posted by: Lampe | December 30, 2008 9:39 PM
Gov. Ed Rendell (D-PA): Fox News IS Fair and Balanced
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BspCUHqXME0
Posted by: GORDO | December 30, 2008 10:00 PM
"What is even scarier is that people believe the single sentence and don't bother to find the source or what she meant, just keep passing around the twisted negative."
So much has been twisted and BS'd this time out that I wouldn't know where to start. The REAL scary part is that the people who are too stupid to check things out are more widely found than you think. For example....how many of you think that the things Tina Fey said were not written by comedy writers?
Posted by: Patsi
| December 30, 2008 10:03 PM
Patsi
There was the one bit where Fey used Palins actual words, but the rest was comedy writers exagerating on her comments.
Of course, some of the Palin remarks were very revealing of someone with little curiosity and less education, but she knew how to rouse the rabble , was a good speaker, and sold all the knee jerk talking points really well.
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 10:08 PM
Fox News: Fair, Balanced, and First--Sez Terry McAuliffe!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11bu-4RjGh0
Posted by: GORDO | December 30, 2008 10:08 PM
campaign talk, gord......campaign talk......lol
Posted by: sturgeone | December 30, 2008 10:10 PM
Gordo
The NEWS part of FOX as opposed to their morning crowd and commentators actually did a good job of presenting the candidates fairly while CNN leaned left and MSNBC totally dove in the tank for Obama
Unfortunately, the commentators are so biased and badly researched and ignorant as to make the news suspect.
Which is why I watch the BBC to find out what is going on in the world.
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 10:12 PM
Michelle Obama: America is ‘Just Downright Mean’
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/03/05/michelle-obama-america-just-downright-mean
Posted by: Animal Control | December 30, 2008 10:15 PM
Sheesh folks
I found the actual New Yorker article, gave you all a link, described the passage and you still go to one of the word twisters to turn the remark into something Michelle Obama never meant.
Let's try this again. Here is the "mean" quote. It is on page three of a ten page article. If you are going to damn the woman, at least get to know her first.
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/03/10/080310fa_fact_collins
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 10:19 PM
" If you are going to damn the woman, at least get to know her first."
Absolutely agree, about any public woman. Or man.
Posted by: Patsi
| December 30, 2008 10:21 PM
" If you are going to damn the woman, at least get to know her first."
I am certain Patsi believes in this but there are some here who enjoy taking shots at Bristol Palin or making fun of the Palin family names.
Posted by: Pot to Kettle | December 30, 2008 10:33 PM
Time to go whack Penguins
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080522/MULTI/80522108/1048/SPORTS
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 10:36 PM
The Palin names are entertaining. You will note that I published the funnier names chosen by other celebrities.
Heck, I invented my daughter's name because we couldn't stop fussing so I just shoved two names together for Lanisa
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 10:40 PM
Tony
I don't think that the Discovery channel is the best one out of them all---they do come up with some good programing.
The "100 greatest discoveries" Origin-and evolution of life is my fav.---let me know when you see this so I don't post it again, I'll find the others if you like...enjoy.----get your feet off that table---now ;-)
Posted by: SolarCrete
| December 30, 2008 10:40 PM
" with little curiosity and less education"
See, here's my problem with that. I don't know that it's a valid assessment. And I don't know the educational background of people who question Palin's education. Don't know grade point averages, class schedules, many, many things.
Posted by: Patsi
| December 30, 2008 10:41 PM
Tony--damn ---forgot the link
http://www.videosift.com/
Posted by: SolarCrete
| December 30, 2008 10:42 PM
"Heck, I invented my daughter's name because we couldn't stop fussing so I just shoved two names together for Lanisa"
Then Jamie -- why ridicule other people? This seems out of character for you.
Posted by: Patsi
| December 30, 2008 10:43 PM
Broe v. Reed: Reply to SOS
"Washington’s Secretary of State claims he has no duty to determine if a presidential candidate is even an American citizen running under his legal name. Yet, there is not a single document in the public record available for inspection that could establishes as a matter of law that Obama is 1) a natural born citizen of the United States; 2) an American citizen; or 3) that his legal name is Barack Obama. …
We stated a claim in mandamus. The Secretary claims that we have the burden of establishing that Obama is not qualified to assume the office! We have proved that Obama did not establish that he was a “natural born citizen” of the United States at the time of the election. He has not produced a single piece of credible evidence that he is an American citizen, let alone a natural born citizen, and he has not produced any document showing a change of his legal name from Barry Soetoro to Barack Hussein Obama. "
http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=2351
Posted by: GORDO | December 30, 2008 10:44 PM
Tony
Let try it again---that link won't hook up with the page I want to send u to-------In the search box---type in----Bill Nye---then scroll down,,some good subjects to listen to,,,,very informative
Posted by: SolarCrete
| December 30, 2008 10:47 PM
No, but you as much called me a liar!
Posted by: Lampe | December 30, 2008 10:50 PM
I know you were addressing Lampe....BUT....may I take this opportunity to call you an idiot?
Posted by: Patsi
| December 30, 2008 10:51 PM
meant to say that the Discovery channel in not the best one of them all,,,,looks like I can't do 2-3 things at one time anymore sorry tony.
Posted by: SolarCrete
| December 30, 2008 10:53 PM
Man enough to dish it out, but not man enough to take it?
Posted by: Lampe | December 30, 2008 10:53 PM
Patsi
I didn't think I was ridiculing, just coming up with other TR names they could use. A bit of silliness nothing more. A joke may not be a good one. That doesn't mean the intent was evil. If you look back I didn't use the name calling possibilities.
I happen to think that Palin probably is a pretty good mother. I don't think she is even moderately qualified for public office.
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 10:54 PM
" happen to think that Palin probably is a pretty good mother. I don't think she is even moderately qualified for public office."
Here's what I don't get. (Or maybe I do -- and if I am right, then God help women candidates...)
I don't "get" that this blog is "chat-chat-chatting" about children's names when there are so many other issues at hand. And then question Sarah Palin's intelligence?
Posted by: Patsi
| December 30, 2008 11:05 PM
Actually -- if anyone cares to question a REAL issue -- what about the news report I just heard...many electric bills in Nashville this month are at least double what they were last month. Holy crap.
Posted by: Patsi
| December 30, 2008 11:15 PM
Has anybody noticed that the worse the economy gets, the more we take the hit? One person on c-span said it perfectly today....the government is throwing the life preservers to the people in the boats, not the ones in the water.
Posted by: Patsi
| December 30, 2008 11:17 PM
Patsi
Just wait until next week---no more hiding behind the Holidays,,,,reality is gonna hit a lot of people real hard,,,,my electric bill is down a little,I don't have anything on until we need it---power off the pc ---tv,,,don't have any kitchen appliances on unless they are being used,,,,but this is all easy for me I live in a Cave---haha -- nite kiddo
Posted by: SolarCrete
| December 30, 2008 11:29 PM
"I don't 'get' that this blog is 'chat-chat-chatting' about children's names when there are so many other issues at hand. And then question Sarah Palin's intelligence?"
Well stated Patsi, from some comments here because Palin did not go to an Ivy League school she is a dummy. It's the women that are hardest on the women--oh the irony!
Posted by: Animal Control | December 30, 2008 11:33 PM
Patsi
Palin isn't unqualified because she is a woman. She is unqualified because she lacks intellectual curiosity, speaks in nothing but soundbites, takes positions so far right as to fall off a flat earth.
She would be unqualified if she were male. That opinion has nothing to do with her gender.
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 11:33 PM
As far as the "chat chat chat" is concerned, this place has always been a mixture of issue information, general conversation, music, trivial silliness, and politics. Indulging in one doesn't mean you can't participate in all the rest.
Talking about cute things children say about their anatomy is just as valid a human interaction as a discussion of Middle East history.
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 11:37 PM
"That opinion has nothing to do with her gender."
If it had nothing to do with her gender then why demonize her instead of the many Republican fools in the race? Oh, you bet it was gender. And every "Caribou Barbie" comment proved it.
What you don't get is that it all translates to women's wages. Every snarky gender-based Caribou Barbie comment ends up in paltry women's paychecks. Sad but true. Barbie Bucks.
Posted by: Patsi
| December 30, 2008 11:40 PM
You know...
Posted by: Corey
| December 30, 2008 11:45 PM
"turned control over to the hag."
ROFL. You are such a putz. Hags, Barbies, tramps -- you just can't get enough of the name calling.
Posted by: Patsi
| December 30, 2008 11:53 PM
Patsi
Just as many jokes were made about "who let the dogs out" crosses on bookcases, and noun verb and 9/11 about male candidates during the primaries.
The only reason she got more is because she was the nominee and she turned in such a poor performance on the issues that she deserved to be ridiculed as a caricature not a serious political candidate.
There were any number of intelligent, well educated, politically aware, and principled Republican women McCain could have chosen. I might not have agreed with them, but I wouldn't think they were tossed into the campaign just to have a pretty female face on the buttons.
Palin is the kind of woman who makes it harder for other women trying to make strides in business. She acted like a Barbie doll and got called one.
Posted by: Jamie
| December 30, 2008 11:56 PM
Kennedy Center Honors
Bye Bye
Posted by: Jamie
| December 31, 2008 12:00 AM
"In Washington state's Broe v. Reed case, however, plaintiff's attorney Stephen Pidgeon says a unique state statute grants everyday citizens the required standing.
"These lawsuits have pointed their fingers at the various secretaries of state and said, 'You handle the elections, it's your job [to verify Obama's eligibility],'" Stephen Pidgeon told WND, "and the secretaries of state have said, 'No, it's not our job. You the voter have to prove he was ineligible.' But when the voters try to do it, the courts tell them they have no standing. So it presents a catch-22.
"Here, we have standing by means of statute," Pidgeon continued. "This particular statute provides for any registered voter to challenge the election of a candidate if the candidate at the time of the election was ineligible to hold office."
http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=84966
Posted by: GORDO | December 31, 2008 12:17 AM
HRC,lost because the DNC,decide to stab HER in the back. Remarks, were made about her hair, her pantsuits,her tears, and her lack of tears. I did not hear one remark being made about anything any of the male candidates wore, their haircuts or anything else. Now maybe that doesn't count as sexism to some, but to me it sure as HELL stinks of sexism.
Posted by: Lampe | December 31, 2008 4:12 AM
I for the life of me can't understand how people can call Gov. Palin a failure, or how she makes it harder for any woman to make strides? She was a Mayor, and is still a Governor. Not many women make it that far. Or for that fact not many men either. And, you all think Caroline Kennedy, has more to offer. What job, as she ever worked? She probably has more money then God. So she worked to make schools better, and she wrote a book. I guess now a days writing a book or two, can not only help you get elected to The Senate, but it can also get you elected POTUS.
Posted by: Lampe | December 31, 2008 4:22 AM
Jamie, Chloe; .................. You don't know how much I appreciate your help, but there must be a problem with my programming because I get the menu down in the comment box, but the options - some are lit and some are pale - well "paste" is pale and I can't get it to light . So I'll just have to settle for WISHING One and All a Happy, Healthy, Prosperous NEW Year.
Rita
Posted by: politicallypissed
| December 31, 2008 6:00 AM
happy december the last!
and what a year 2008 was.... drought-stricken, blown away, shaken-up, melted, down the drain and snowed in at the airport.
just a few more hours. what more can happen?
just a few more days of you-know-who. what more rath can he wrought?
Posted by: patd | December 31, 2008 6:48 AM
Ed, if you are around. Your take on the prospects of Louise Slaughter and Carolyn Maloney?
Posted by: Patsi
| December 31, 2008 7:10 AM
patd -- I am increasingly nervous about any moves Bush makes regarding the Israeli/Palestinian situation right now.
Posted by: Patsi
| December 31, 2008 7:12 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/obamabilia-big-busines-in-dc.html#comment-185736
Lampe,
We all heard the same thing as you. We know Michelle said America is mean. You can easily pull up tapes and articles on the internet proving it, in the same way others pull up tapes on Fox and Hannity lies. But you don't need to do that, because we all know it happened.
It sounds like you haven't worked your way through this yet, but many others used to feel the same way that you do. I will never go back to watching MSNBC either, and it is laughable to me to hear others say that they are reputable and others channels are not. They're all the same, except some have a different goal than others, a different agenda. If 'fair and balanced' is so funny to say about FOX, then it is every bit as hilarious to say about MSNBC.
When some ridicule what you say, they are simply trying to throw you off balance. You don't have to explain yourself to anyone, unless you want to.
The real Puma's are the one's that think they won.
Posted by: chloe
| December 31, 2008 7:38 AM
I get the menu down in the comment box, but the options - some are lit and some are pale - well "paste" is pale and I can't get it to light . So I'll just have to settle for WISHING One and All a Happy, Healthy, Prosperous NEW YEAR!"
Rita, If the menu isn't showing paste, then you probably didn't get the copy done correctly. Instead of right clicking, you can also go to the Edit menu at the top left of your page. You highlight what you want to copy in blue (the video explained how to highlight by running your cursor over it, then go to edit at top of page and left click it. Once you get down to the comment box, do what you always do to post, but go up to edit and click paste. If paste isn't highlighted, then you didn't get your copy done correctly.
Copying the address from top of page you want to link, make sure the whole line gets highlighted, from http: all the way across. It must still be blue when you left click your copy tab.
I know you can do this. Just take your time and keep trying. I taught myself to use the computer by using the help menu and also you can search for any questions there are, and many will post articles to help you.
Please ask as many questions here as you need to, because we all went through the same thing when we started out. Don't give up!
Posted by: chloe
| December 31, 2008 7:50 AM
Happy New Year To All!
jamie - I fling a flaming wheel of haggis, virtually of course, to ring in the new year.
craig - Easy on the appletinis tonight.
Posted by: blueINdallas | December 31, 2008 7:52 AM
Rita, also your edit may not be ready to go, until you left click first into the comments box.
Posted by: chloe
| December 31, 2008 7:53 AM
if my last post was garbled, please blame it on the medicines...
Posted by: EuroTom
| December 31, 2008 7:55 AM
euroT - Go back to sleep & get better. The blog will still be here when you wake up. Take care.
Posted by: blueINdallas | December 31, 2008 7:57 AM
Tom,
Glad you hear you're feeling better. Don't over do it working today, or you feel worse again.
Happy New Year Tom and everyone.
Posted by: chloe
| December 31, 2008 7:59 AM
Feel better, Tom!
Posted by: Patsi
| December 31, 2008 8:02 AM
et, and some comity to go along with your commonality wish for us all. get well dear tm friend.
co·mi·ty
1 a: friendly social atmosphere : social harmony b: a loose widespread community based on common social institutions c: comity of nations d: the informal and voluntary recognition by courts of one jurisdiction of the laws and judicial decisions of another
2: avoidance of proselytizing members of another religious denomination
Posted by: patd | December 31, 2008 8:08 AM
"I also understand that a woman in the modern world has always had to fight harder to stay standing... "
Hey Patsi, Tom gets it. He's so right.
Posted by: chloe
| December 31, 2008 8:09 AM
merriam-webster
Posted by: patd | December 31, 2008 8:09 AM
"co·mi·ty "
Pat, I wonder if Craig has time to get that one in his book?
Craig,
Happy New Year to you too!
Posted by: chloe
| December 31, 2008 8:12 AM
Thirty Years Ago: Ali And Foreman Rumbled In The Jungle
10.29.04 - By Frank Lotierzo - GlovedFist@Juno.com - Thirty years ago on the morning of October 30th 1974, Muhammad Ali 44-2 (32) was just hours away from entering the ring to challenge undisputed heavyweight champion George Foreman 40-0 (37). The fight with Foreman represented more than just a chance for him to become the second former heavyweight champ to regain the title. A victory over Foreman meant validation and redemption for Ali.
By October 1974, seven years had passed since Ali was stripped of his heavyweight title for refusing Induction into the U.S. Army on April 28th 1967. After the then Cassius Clay defeated Sonny Liston in February of 1964 to capture the heavyweight title, he announced that he was a member of the Nation of Islam, and was adopting the name Cassius X. Two weeks later he was given the name Muhammad Ali by Elijah Muhammad the leader of the Nation of Islam. From that point on, Ali was a marked man by the so called establishment, and viewed as someone dangerous and capable of in sighting a race war between Whites and Blacks.
After a 43 month forced exile from boxing, Ali returned to the ring. In the four years in between his comeback fight with Jerry Quarry in October 1970, up to his title fight with George Foreman in October 1974, Ali fought for the title once, and went 12-2 in 14 fights.
http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=2100&more=1
He beat Foreman in Zaire, the Rumble in the Jungle
Posted by: sturgeone | December 31, 2008 8:14 AM
elijah muhammad had the "foresight" to prevent Ali from keeping the name Cassius X........
Posted by: sturgeone | December 31, 2008 8:19 AM
Ali-Foreman post-fight interview......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSH5frB6eN8&feature=PlayList&p=F0EE1413C6EB27A7&playnext=1&index=38
Norman Mailer had a big presence also in Zaire during the fight........
Posted by: sturgeone | December 31, 2008 8:22 AM
Sturg, I, and my hooch mates, held Clay in the utmost contempt because of his shenanigans with his draft board (this was before all the other stuff happened.) We figured if Elvis could serve, Clay could as well. There was no racial component to our indignition.
Posted by: Flatus
| December 31, 2008 8:23 AM
Good morning. I see it got a little hot in here last night. Glad I went to bed early to rest up for my 5 days off. Whoppee. The down side of my time off is now I have time to work on all these projects I see stacked up around me.
Chloe, I used to be glued to MSNBC. I emailed several atta boys to Keith O. Then he turned his ire from Bush to Hillary. I tried to write and tell him what I thought about that and my emails came back with some error message. I stopped watching. A couple of nights ago I tried to watch him again and just couldn't. He now turns my stomach.
During the campaign I did tune in to Fox, when before I wouldn't be caught dead watching it. They did, at that time, seem more fair and balanced. I can't do Hannity or O'Reilly.
Posted by: ct | December 31, 2008 8:37 AM
"She takes a lot of hits for the rest of us."
Chloe, indeed she does. And she does it willingly with full knowledge of the thinly veiled hate speech that is sure to follow.
Now, it's off to the pharmacy; seems as if that is one of our favorite places to visit. :(
Posted by: Flatus
| December 31, 2008 8:41 AM
"thinly veiled hate speech"
Thanks Flatus, for calling it exactly what it is.
Posted by: chloe
| December 31, 2008 8:45 AM
Carol, Enjoy your vacation!
btw, I don't watch Hannity or O'Reilly either. I've pretty much stopped watching all cable news. What good is being informed, when you're hearing a 'version' of what's going on.
Posted by: chloe
| December 31, 2008 8:48 AM
A song to start the New Year:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpNoxKzEEvw
Posted by: ct | December 31, 2008 8:48 AM
If you haven't lined up a dark haired man, a bottle of scotch, a lump of coal, a loaf of bread and the lyrics to Auld Lang Syne, get a move on you are running out of time.
Full instructions on their use are available at
http://jdurward.blogspot.com
Posted by: Jamie
| December 31, 2008 8:57 AM
Why is Morning Joe doing a rerun? MSNBC being budget conscious and short handed is silly. They must have an intern they could throw on the air or something.
Posted by: Jamie
| December 31, 2008 8:59 AM
Patsi,
Big snow day in upstate NY, so I've been talking about the weather and drive in with my co-workers as they show up. I walk to work, so as long as I can stay above my shoes, my trips are usually uneventful.
I really don't know anything about Louise Slaughter and only know of Carolyn Maloney since her name was bandied about as a possible candidate for Hillary's seat. I've read that Maloney has "paid her dues," but Governor Paterson has two "stars" in Andrew Cuomo and Caroline. In New York, star power usually trumps experience, so I'd say they are both long shots.
The one dark horse that interests me is Bob Kerrey. Apparently, there's some sort of a palace coup taking place at the New School, so he may give Paterson a way around choosing between Caroline and Andrew. Name Kerrey now, then let all who are interested duke it out for the 2010 nomination.
Personally, I'd rather see Kerrey stay and fight the academicians, but the fact is that even if he wins that battle, he'll probably be in a weakened position, so moving on now is probably a smarter choice.
Posted by: EdVB
| December 31, 2008 9:01 AM
New Yorker of the Year:
Hillary Clinton proved a woman of resolve and class
"The most powerful woman in the world.
So Hillary Clinton will become with the dawn of a new White House. Madam Secretary of State. A strong hand in a velvet glove, extended to the globe on behalf of the most anticipated presidency in generations.
Short of Barack Obama, no American today has a greater opportunity to shape international history than does New York’s departing junior U.S. senator.
.....Obama gave her the planet as her portfolio at the very moment when the world is pleading for America to lead."
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/12/30/2008-12-30_new_yorker_of_the_year_hillary_clinton_p.html
off to do my work....
Posted by: chloe
| December 31, 2008 9:03 AM
Preacher (and former Nashville wack job) Tony Alamo believes Bible gives him right to abuse children.
http://www.tennessean.com/article/20081231/NEWS03/812310398
Posted by: Patsi
| December 31, 2008 9:06 AM
Jamie if a dark haired man passes the threshold of my home after midnight tonight I fear it wouldn't be a good omen. More likely someone just broke out of jail.
Posted by: ct | December 31, 2008 9:08 AM
"Why is Morning Joe doing a rerun? MSNBC being budget conscious and short handed is silly. They must have an intern they could throw on the air or something."
I also don't understand all the re-running/constantly airing of prison programming...I despise those shows.
Posted by: Patsi
| December 31, 2008 9:12 AM
Hmm...interesting on the New School issue, Ed. I'm going to see if there are any reports. Kerrey is indeed an interesting potential player.
Posted by: Patsi
| December 31, 2008 9:15 AM
Wow, Ed -- I just read a bit about the New School situation. I guess this article could have been titled "Students Chase One-Legged Man Down the Street."
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/12/18/protest-at-the-new-school-turns-unruly/
Posted by: Patsi
| December 31, 2008 9:21 AM
Does anybody else LOVE the idea of Republicans accusing Bush of being a pinko commie? You can't make this stuff up.
Posted by: Patsi
| December 31, 2008 9:25 AM
One more post: this story ought to give anyone getting a tattoo pause. Lark Previn, daughter of Mia Farrow and Andre Previn, has died. It is being speculated that she contracted the AIDS virus from a dirty tattoo needle.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/30/lark-previn-mia-farrows-d_n_154139.html
Posted by: Patsi
| December 31, 2008 9:31 AM
OK, I lied. One MORE post. This is a photo of one of my favorite writers, Steve Clemens. And it will bring a big smile to all dog-lovers.
http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/
Posted by: Patsi
| December 31, 2008 9:34 AM
For some of our more dedicated drinkers, here is the world clock sorted by time zone. Hurry up, they've already had New Years and it is Thursday in Australia and Hong Kong
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/custom.html?sort=2
Posted by: Jamie
| December 31, 2008 9:38 AM
Patsi,
The Wiki article about TABA linked by Clemens on his page is fascinating reading in light of Hillary Clinton now being the Secretary of State
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taba_Summit
Posted by: Jamie
| December 31, 2008 9:54 AM
In line with the video, I wonder which bobbleheads are still missing from Craig's mantlepiece
http://www.fadtoys.com/political/index.html?s_kwcid=political%20bobbleheads|819442945&jkId=8a8ae4cc1d11233f011d1c1c6dbc4d9d&jt=1&jadid=819442945&js=1&jk=political%20bobbleheads&jsid=11911&jmt=1&
Posted by: Jamie
| December 31, 2008 10:01 AM
talk about re-runs.....USA network........New Year's Eve.....they are running the movie "Elf"........all day long......24 hours of "Elf"...........all day......all night......merry "Elf".
Posted by: sturgeone | December 31, 2008 10:03 AM
http://www.theholidayspot.com/newyear/wishes.htm
No matter how you say it...Happy New Year!
and hopefully goodbye to Lou Dobbs, Concern Troll for America
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker
| December 31, 2008 10:03 AM
Mornin', all, and almost g'bye to '08.
I guess I'll have to go back and see what happened last night. Patsi, thanks for wasting your breath (and OSH, you might as well ask crap not to stink) - KC did it for a while, I did it for a while, in fact many have (most have left) and the frickin' Energizer Bunny of juvenile put downs and one liners just keeps going and going and... Anyway, Jamie and Patsi have my undying gratitude.
And Flatus, a lot of folks in the US felt Clay was just using the CO status of NoI to avoid the draft - I saw it as a possibility, but I didn't condemn him for it - that was a growing movement back then, and if Freedom of religion means anything, it should mean the government respects the CO status that results from a religion based rejection of war. I did see a bit of a disconnect between a man who made his living fighting other people claiming he couldn't fight on behalf of his country because his religion forbade it, but he wasn't trying to kill anyone and but hey, what did I know about NoL tenets? Damned little. I heard similar criticism of members of the Quaker faith - generally from people who knew damned little about it as well. But then, I wasn't clamoring to get to vietnam, either. Just curious, did you hold the same contempt for people who took academic deferments? Or was this just a case of believing CC was manipulating the suystem by conveniently canging religions to avoid the draft?
Posted by: pogo | December 31, 2008 10:13 AM
CNN has some nice 2008 retrospective articles
http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2008/news/year.in.review/index.html
Posted by: Jamie
| December 31, 2008 10:13 AM
Sturg, LP was watching Elf this morning while he was gobbling down his oatmeal - I watched about 3 minutes of it while I was chatting with the boy. That was enough for me - at the risk of drawing fire, I think Will Farrell is a decent comic actor - in very small doses - but won't be rememebered as one of the giants of the genre.
Posted by: pogo | December 31, 2008 10:22 AM
Will Farrell: can't stand more than two minutes of him.
Posted by: Patsi
| December 31, 2008 10:30 AM
"The Wiki article about TABA linked by Clemens on his page is fascinating reading in light of Hillary Clinton now being the Secretary of State"
Very interesting -- glad you pointed it out because I was too busy admiring the dog and had missed it! :)
Posted by: Patsi
| December 31, 2008 10:39 AM
Today's Thread on blistersyeahbutchannel
A careful examination of the humorless Obama Supporters
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/sunday/la-oe-rutten31-2008dec31,1,7295282.column
Posted by: blistersyeahbutchannel | December 31, 2008 10:59 AM
Don't leave Solar! Here's my own Happy New Year Greeting -- Live Large in 2009!
http://practicallyperfectpatsi.wordpress.com/
Posted by: Patsi
| December 31, 2008 11:47 AM
The real fight was Ali and Sonny Liston. Liston learned to fight in prison. He beat the crap outta people in prison. He was a feared man. When Ali decided to fight him, people thought he would get killed. Ali did something nobody expected, he taunted Liston as often as he possibly could. Liston could not understand this. In prison and in boxing everybody feared him, but Ali didn't. They said in prison, the only people guys like Liston feared were guys who were crazy. Liston started to think that Ali was crazy. Ali ended up winning the fight and shocking the world.
Posted by: Corey
| December 31, 2008 11:52 AM
Overused words and terms to drop from your vocabulary as well as a link to submit your candidates for total erasure from the English language.
http://jessicah160.vox.com/library/post/2008-list-of-overused-words.html
Posted by: Jamie
| December 31, 2008 11:53 AM
Overused words and terms to drop from your vocabulary as well as a link to submit your candidates for total erasure from the English language.
http://jessicah160.vox.com/library/post/2008-list-of-overused-words.html
Posted by: Jamie
| December 31, 2008 11:53 AM
At the risk of injecting sometihing political into the discusson today, what are peoples' thoughts on the Reid-Blago-Burris-Cornyn kerfuffel?
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/31/washington/31congress.html?_r=1&hp
From my perspective, there doesn't seem to be a good outcome. Blago undoubtedly has the legal power to appoint Obama's successor. And anyone he appoints will be under a cloud. And I'm not sure Reid has the authority under the Constitution to refuse to seat Burris. And now Cornyn agrees with Reid (of course he just wants an election an IL repug can enter and vie for the seat). It just goes to show what I think about Reid is confirmed once again - the guy hasn't got a clue about leading - and his hip has to be sore from shooting from it so often.
Posted by: pogo | December 31, 2008 11:54 AM
well, lunch
Posted by: pogo | December 31, 2008 12:00 PM
Solar, You did not make a mistake by being on this blog. There is a reason you showed up here, and you've made it a better place with your presence. If you need to say something, then do it. Otherwise, what's the point? Craig has said repeatedly that there are very few rules.
Happy New Year! And you'd better stick around. Tony warned you already.
Posted by: chloe
| December 31, 2008 12:01 PM
You're right, Pogo -- ain't no easy way out on this one. Looks like the Dems should be looking for a way to save face right now, because legally, Burris is the appointee. And it's true --so far Blago is still presumed innocent. (I keep wondering what "real" evidence Fitzgerald has....hope he didn't jump the gun.)
Posted by: Patsi
| December 31, 2008 12:04 PM
Pogo
Without some judicial exercise, like it or not, Blagojavitch is the Governor of the State. As such, he has the right to make the appointment and Burris is the Senator.
The only way out would be to do a change in the Illinois Constitution and take the power away from the governor, or to let Burris serve but immediately call for a special election to replace him.
Just because you think Blago is a crook doesn't mean you can throw out the law.
Posted by: Jamie
| December 31, 2008 12:05 PM
"Just because you think Blago is a crook doesn't mean you can throw out the law."
Agree, Jamie. We've seen enough trashing of law and the constitution these past eight years.
Posted by: Patsi
| December 31, 2008 12:13 PM
Jamie,
I agree with your post just now about having to respect the law. But if Blago was anything close to a true statesman -- as opposed to a self-serving egomaniac -- he could have solved this easily by following the Constitution and and still achieving the goal of "Illinois representation in the U.S. Senate."
The solution: Ask a panel of senior elected state officials (Democratic legislative leaders, Democratic cabinet members, however you want to define the group) to simply nominate a candidate for Blago to appoint. No veto power, no questions asked. That gets you the untainted appointee that everyone wants, and Blago is still the one making the appointment. Problem solved.
But you can't do that when the governor has chosen to use the power he derives from the people simply as a weapon to defend his own political career at all costs. It is the absolute height of cynicism. And don't let's even get started on the race card.
Posted by: LardassLiberal
| December 31, 2008 12:24 PM
Rep. Rush Invokes Race in Defending Blagojevich Senate Appointment
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2008/12/30/rep-rush-invokes-race-defending-blagojevich-senate-appointment/
Posted by: Animal Control | December 31, 2008 12:42 PM
Lardo
The law is always written in hopes that the majority will obey it. If you try to design it to cover every weasel likely to abuse and wiggie in such a way as to avoid consequences, you destroy freedom for everyone.
Your solution assumes that Blago is a reasonable man willing to accept compromise when we already know that he is a self serving SOB.
What bothers me is that Burris who seems to have lived an honorable life or service to the community is allowing himself to be used in this fashion.
It's the pits, but Burris is in until an election (special or scheduled) can be held.
Posted by: Jamie
| December 31, 2008 12:47 PM
LL, sorry, that horse is already out of the barn. I don't for a second think that Reid's preemptive rejection of Blago's (excellent IMHO) appointment - what's that old saying? Act (or something) in haste, repent at leisure - had a shred of a racial motive, but Blago shrewdly put that into play. But leave it to our Dem leadership to find a way to screw up anything they have an opportunity to. What's Reid's alternative? Leave the seat unfilled until the current term expires? Sounds like shooting one's self in the foot to me. Hold a special election? Expensive, legally suspect, and that leaves the seat vacant during the firs 4-6 months of the Obama administration - precisely when the Dems will need every vote they can muster to try and advance Obama's legislative initiatives. Yep, Reid's drawn a line in the sand - only he drew it as a box around himself, and may have created a minor constitutional showdown to boot.. Couldn't he see that coming? JHC!
Jamie, Patsi, we reach common ground, again. Go figure.
Posted by: pogo | December 31, 2008 12:56 PM
The appointment had little to do with Blago fulfilling his duty as Gov. I could just see the wheels turning under his arrogant hair. Oh, how to parlay this into a career move, a book deal, a TV movie starring Charlie Sheen...?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/30/AR2008123003035.html
Posted by: blueINdallas | December 31, 2008 12:56 PM
Re Blago: You can't punish people who believe that they haven't done anything wrong.
Posted by: Corey
| December 31, 2008 12:58 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/30/time-warner-cable-cuts-of_n_154378.html
Uh, oh. If this happens, looks like I'll be facing moving to satellite and scaling back to basic cable - just so I can keep network channels and RoadRunner. If I haven't said I hate Time Warner before - I HATE Time Warner. I'll pay the friggin' $.23. - hell, make it an even buck if they have to. At their cable rates, who would even notice?
Posted by: pogo | December 31, 2008 1:06 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/obamabilia-big-busines-in-dc.html#comment-185870
Pogo, One of the delights of this list is that we are all so darn brilliant and agreeable. LOL
Posted by: Jamie
| December 31, 2008 1:08 PM
"Reid's drawn a line in the sand - only he drew it as a box around himself, and may have created a minor constitutional showdown to boot.. Couldn't he see that coming? JHC!"
Exactly. "The Trouble With Harry."
Posted by: Patsi
| December 31, 2008 1:08 PM
Does anyone know any details about Comcast ownership or management? When you come to the main page that lists news stories, the headlines seem to be quite slanted even when the story it links to is fairly well balanced. I wondered if it was management or some sort of headline feed.
Posted by: Jamie
| December 31, 2008 1:14 PM
blue, whether Blago did it TO fulfull his constitutional duty or not, he has the power to make that appointment under the Illinois Constitution. Arrogance and a criminal charge - not yet followed by as much as an indictment - do not remove that obligation. And please, can anyone deny that Fitz was doing everything he could to get the spotlight on himself and to convict Blago in the press and the mind of the public when he had the federal jackboots drag himinto t squad car at the crack of dawn in front of the cameras and went before the cameras to make sure EVERYONE knew about Blago's phone calls?
Don't misunderstand - Blago may indeed be guilty of a crime - frankly I don't know, although I'm betting he is eventually convicted of something - and he's definitely guilty of gross stupidity - but that's a different issue for a different day and in a different forum.
Posted by: pogo | December 31, 2008 1:21 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/obamabilia-big-busines-in-dc.html#comment-185866
Lardo, this is an excellent post. I recommend you add it to the CQ Politics article
Blagojevich Appoints Burris to Obama’s Seat But Senate Leaders Say They Won’t Seat Him
By Greg Giroux and Jonathan Allen, CQ Staff
http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docID=news-000003001766&cpage=1
It would be a nice counterpoint to the doofus there who said Blago was acting the role of a "statesman"...
Posted by: EuroTom
| December 31, 2008 1:25 PM
"Blago undoubtedly has the legal power to appoint Obama's successor."
pogo, i agree because if he doesn't have the legal power for that, he doesn't have it for any other official action (like signing bills, admin decisions, pardoning, etc.) that he is taking and has been taking since it hit the fan. if he did lose the power, at what point in time did he lose this power? when arrested? the date of the tapes? the day when reid said his pick would not be seated?
you better believe there's some power hungry prosecutor, less scrupulous than fitz, out there drooling in wait for his chance to instantly unseat/dethrone his particular elected official.
Posted by: patd | December 31, 2008 1:29 PM
Posted by: pogo | December 31, 2008 10:13 AM
Pogo, the events I recalled were in 1962, or the latest, 1963, i.e., before we had any significant involvement in Vietnam; that came in 1965 although Tonkin was in 1964.
My memory says that his pleas to the draft board centered around his being intellectually deficient--that he simply was too dumb to be inducted. Note that I didn't say fight--we weren't fighting anybody at that time.
It wasn't until he lost all his appeals based on stupidity that Clay decided to get religion. Up until that point I considered him a scumbag. After his embracing of religion, I considered him a religious scumbag.
You asked about educational deferments. Consider this. Most people having the deferments would end up being officers. I didn't want officers who felt they were too good to lead enlisted swine into battle; at the time, there were plenty of real men willing to lead others when their country demanded that duty of them. Of course, I'm disparaging such people as Cheney who sought never-ending deferral.
Posted by: Flatus
| December 31, 2008 1:31 PM
I am for the Senate refusing to seat Burris. I do not believe this should preclude him from being appointed at a later date when the mess is resolved. I think Lardo's idea is the BEST I have heard, and it's too bad that Governor EGO cannot show even a moment's humility by acting like a person who really wants to put integrity above personal ambition. It's a sorry sight and he really should be ashamed.
Pogo, regardless, it is my understanding that the U.S. Senate can refuse to seat a member if they deem it appropriate. I do feel that Obama has Reid's backside covered by once again saying that the appointment should not go through. He made it clear it wasn't about Burris and it wasn't about race; it was about the morally bankrupt Governor who still thinks he has done nothing wrong and will not own up to the political realities that confront him.
Like Patsi said "oh those crazy serbs"... :-)
Posted by: EuroTom
| December 31, 2008 1:33 PM
Flatus, My parents always said the same thing. Cassius Clay became a muslim just to get out of the Military... I was too young to know but I suspect what you say contains a large amount of truth.
Posted by: EuroTom
| December 31, 2008 1:35 PM
ET, that understanding of yours is the subject of fairly vigorous debate amond constitutional law scholars aas we speak - the refusal to seat a member has to be based on constitutional authority or Senate Rules since those are the exclusive sources of the senate's power to act. All this constitutional law stuff can be pretty complicated, and isnot necessarily intuitive. It will be fleshed out in detail in the coming weeks I expect. As it is right now, Reid's opinion, whether backed by Obama (who, BTW has NO legal power to approve or disapprove the appointment either as senator vacating the seat, PEOTUS or POTUS) is the proverbial "opinion" (whose analo is "asshole")
Well, I gotta go. Keep it legal and between the lines, and avoid the idiots on the roads tonight - they'll be out there.
Posted by: pogo | December 31, 2008 1:45 PM
Dang it all Solar, don't leave. I understand how you feel. Have felt bad that I haven't posted much this week because I wanted to say the following:
Glad to see you back Solar and do you make tamales for the holidays?, Bethy- Happy Birthday!! , Jamie,- your growing kitties are adorable! Tony, I'm so glad you had a marvelous Christmas! Corey, Am thinking of you and your family this holiday season. Cbob- great tunes! Patsi and Chloe- I love you two!! Sturge- thanks as always!
I wondered where Jack was, but figured he was doing the same as me, just lurking, trying to avoid any conflict this week and enjoy the holidays., It is simply toxic at times. I broke my resolve and posted this morning - just couldn't stand by and watch people being abused any longer. I agree with you , there are some fine people here and yet one of the most despicable and miserable souls that I have ever come across. Just the same, the friendship of all the others outweigh his negativity although sometimes it is just about impossible to keep that in mind. So now that you know that many want you to stay put, please do. I got your back and so do others. We'll figure this out somehow. Besides , we can't be leaving Craig all alone here reduced to a blog of one!!
Posted by: oldseahag
| December 31, 2008 1:50 PM
The 7 Dirty Words You Can't Say at an Inauguration:
Fuck
Shit
Piss
Cunt
Cocksucker
Motherfucker
Jesus
Happy New Year!
Posted by: champ | December 31, 2008 1:50 PM
Whew! Do you feel better Champ? My glasses got fogged up.
Hope you are all stocked up on your cabbage and black-eyed peas. Walmart was sold out of black-eyed peas. It happens every year and you would think they or me, would plan ahead.
Now why is it that we have to eat those foods? Besides gas what are we supposed to get? I am sure you know Jamie.
Carol
Posted by: ct | December 31, 2008 2:00 PM
Patsi
Im still thinking about your tattoo post from this morn-----I don't have any tattoo's , none of the males in our family do---I dont think----but a few of the nieces do,,,they are very nice kids to boot,,,,what makes a woman get one or as in some cases, more than one?,,,,The Obvious answer is Hollywood---but they know the diff-between real and not real.
Re: Blagojevich ---friends(moderate Dems) in Dupage County (very big Republican cty) tell me that they can't keep the neighbors from sneering and telling them that there is no diff between the two.......I like Blago when he ran for Gov,,,and even when he looked like he made a few mistakes,,,,,cos he came from very humble beginings ,,,some here are saying that t he influence of his wife is what changed him---me I say you can't change anyone's character,,,,he just hid the bad one that he had pretty good for a while,,,,,,It looks like its all about money with him,,,so Im inclined to believe as does the person that said he is looking how to make $ out of all of this...I like the Sheen family --if any one of them make star in his movie----I won't
Choe
More things in common---I don't watch msnbc at all,,I tried cos off Craig----but can't ,,,at certain times,CNN for the financial news,,,I look forward to Christine Amanpoure's new show that she will have,,,do like Rich Sanchez,,,but otherwise not much cable news either ----another is learning the computer,,,it took time but like Cheyenne I can get stubborn also---and managed to learn a new trick,,,,can I get an apple too??
Rita---Chlo is right don't give up,,,,my computer once asked if I could do something else, and give it frikin break-----I took threw it up against the wall,,,grabbed it by its neck shook it around a little more,,,,put it back on my desk,,,and now Im here talking with you---does have its rewards :-))
Posted by: SolarCrete
| December 31, 2008 2:01 PM
Thanks OSH and have a Happy New Year!
Posted by: Corey
| December 31, 2008 2:02 PM
I was kind of wondering if those words Champ were being directed at anyone in particular on this blog? If so you missed a few.
Posted by: ct | December 31, 2008 2:03 PM
In the South, it is considered good luck to eat black-eyed peas on New Year's Day because they are thought to symbolize wealth (because they look like little coins when cooked). They also swell when they are cooked, which is another sign of prosperity. Cabbage is also an auspicious item to eat on the new year, as it's leaves can also look like cash.
Posted by: Jamie
| December 31, 2008 2:09 PM
Concerning the Ali/Liston fight: Malcolm X told Ali to remember the story of David vs. Goliath:
"One man who did believe in Clay was Malcolm X. On the night of Feb. 25, 1964, he followed the Liston bout as intensely as my friends and I did, but from seat "7" at the arena in Miami, a seat arranged by Clay himself. When Clay prevailed, he shocked everyone but Malcolm.
Not one to miss an opportunity, Elijah Muhammad launched a holy war for the fighter's soul before the arena had even cleared. He had all the weapons. He called Clay immediately and offered him the name "Muhammad Ali," an honorarium denied members of the Nation of much longer standing. Two weeks later he made Ali pledge to sever his relationship with Malcolm. Two days after that, on March 8, 1964, Muhammad publicly denounced Malcolm as a "hypocrite," a signal, writes Karl Evanzz in his excellent book, "The Messenger," "that hunting season was about to open for all mammals named Malcolm X." As to Ali, when asked for his reaction to the split, he muttered, "I don't know much about what Malcolm is doing, but I do know that Muhammad is the wisest." So much for loyalty." - Jack Cashill Dec. 17th, 2001 WorldNetDaily
This was something that Muhammad Ali regrets to this day.
Posted by: Corey
| December 31, 2008 2:14 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/obamabilia-big-busines-in-dc.html#comment-185886
Sea, That was a great post. (I love you too, and the others here).
.............
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/obamabilia-big-busines-in-dc.html#comment-185887
Champ, Talk to us!
..............
Solar, Here's a whole bushel of apples just for you. Enjoy!
(ps I knew you weren't a quitter - I figured if you made it through those nuns, you can make it through anything) :)
Posted by: chloe
| December 31, 2008 2:23 PM
Champ
I posted before looking----glad to hear from you--------Im trying to sound like you did ---and now it looks like you are trying to sound like I do...wtf HA
OSH
Thanks ---I don't know how to make tamales yet---but I will as soon as my nephew's wife let me make the ones like my sister Maria used to make----when she passe she told her that she was not to give out the directions,,unless they helped make them---she has been pregnant for the last time now (3 kids and finally a boy) and will make them with me---I even have told her that I would do all the work---she could just sit there and guide me-----but that she could not breast feed that kid in front of me----I get to blushing and all that---I hate that stuff,,,although I think that all woman should do it on a bus if that is what they want-----but they should have a special breast feeding bus ---I hvent t aken a bus for over 40 years hahah...but the tamales are so good that that well they are the best,,,,,,,and whats with that dange it language--can't u be a little more like me and Champ and tone it down hahaha
Posted by: SolarCrete
| December 31, 2008 2:24 PM
More from Illinois...
ILL Sec of State will not accept Blagojevich appointment
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2008/12/blagojevich-proclamation-on-burris-is-rebuffed.html
...and just to complicate matters, Fitzgeral asks for 90 more days to make his case
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2008/12/us-seeks-more-time-to-indict-blagojevich.html
Posted by: Patsi
| December 31, 2008 2:30 PM
Solar- too much of a tit man eh? See, I don't think you would want me to stop from refraining- I swear like a sailor.
Happy New Year to you Corey, 2009 will be better!!
Posted by: oldseahag
| December 31, 2008 2:34 PM
carol, wish pogo hadn't left for the day cause his alabama background might have more info on the southern new year's feast. also there are different foods for different southern folk.
i was told that the first thing you put in your mouth in the new year foretold what the rest would be like (therefore eat symbols of health and wealth) and also told to start it off humbly so that it's up hill from there on with black-eyed beans cooked with hog jowl or fatback or ham hock, greens (usually collards) hoppin' john (a delicious rice, onion, beans and ham dish) and cornbread made in an iron skillet.
i'm having the latter fare to start the year humbly.
Posted by: patd | December 31, 2008 2:35 PM
Enjoy your partying tonight but in moderation. You still have Innauguration day on Jan 20th and the The Year of the Ox kicks off on January 26.
Posted by: Jamie
| December 31, 2008 2:35 PM
Can't wait to see Bri Bri wearing lipstick on 1/20
and maybe he will fly too
Posted by: sock drawer open | December 31, 2008 2:47 PM
Re: New Year's good luck meals.
I will be fixing Hoppin' John and cornbread as a throw back to the time I spent in Memphis. There, I usually went to a restaurant on New Year's Day that served the best black-eyed pea salad and yeast rolls. Yum.
I am also making Toll House cookies today since it has been years since I have made them. The cookie most requested from family and friends when I am baking is oatmeal chocolate chip but I have a craving for Toll House today.
Posted by: zoey
| December 31, 2008 2:51 PM
Patsi
Love it-no wet noodle this time-----she looks like her father (looks like the same forehead-eyes) thanks
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/obamabilia-big-busines-in-dc.html#comment-185854
Posted by: SolarCrete
| December 31, 2008 2:52 PM
I'm surprised. It is only the south that has these New Years food traditions??
Solar when you learn how to do the tamales please share. I tried once and just made a mess. We used to have this place here that made the countries best tamales. He died a while back and took the recipe with him.
Posted by: ct | December 31, 2008 2:58 PM
It's snowing here so the natives went out sledding and I'm here in my quiet warm house baking Tollhouse too! For New Year's Day I started my own tradition (the rest of the family is down south eating hoppin john) and cook either Mexican or Greek , my two most favorite cuisines. Usually I make tamales, but don't feel like spending that much time in the kitchen. Will probably make taquitos or chilaquiles with beans & rice. Mexican drives my poor old Da crazy with the wait- he once said "No wonder Mexico is a third world country, the food takes so long to prepare who has time to work" Hope that doesn't offend anyone, it wasn't meant to.
Posted by: oldseahag
| December 31, 2008 3:03 PM
ct
Step by step instructions with pictures for tamales. Because they are so labor intensive, it is always best to do it as a party or with all the relatives if you plan on a large batch.
http://www.sonofthesouth.net/tamales/Tamale_Recipe.htm
Posted by: Jamie
| December 31, 2008 3:06 PM
Just finished watchin The Quiet Man and now watching Cry Freedom. Both are favorite movies
Posted by: Jamie
| December 31, 2008 3:10 PM
http://seasonalpantry.blogspot.com/2008/12/citrus-new-year.html
Here is what's cooking at Chez Cracker
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker
| December 31, 2008 3:13 PM
I also saw that story on ESPN Classic. LOL!
Posted by: Corey
| December 31, 2008 3:26 PM
Or was it PBS. It doesn't matter. Ali was forced to shun Malcolm X. That's the truth.
Posted by: Corey
| December 31, 2008 3:30 PM
Carol--
Had a girlfriend named Carol Murphy ----cool name cool girl.(she din't treat me cruel-------------)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdsDXgILDsg#)-----
..I will, share that info on the tamales, my other sisters make them with what they call Atole,,,a sweet hot drink that goes with them--they even make some pink ones (tamales) that are great for kids,,,one of my brothers owns a rest. and makes tamales,,,pretty good ---but not the same---if im going to take the time that it takes to make them... I will do the ones that are the best,,plan to do a huge amount of them and freeze them,,,tried with others and the keep for ever.
OSH---no if and or buttttts----your flirting again :-))))
Posted by: SolarCrete
| December 31, 2008 3:31 PM
Carol----hope t his goes thru-this time--would hate to have to sing it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdsDXgILDsg#
Posted by: SolarCrete
| December 31, 2008 3:36 PM
All I know is that after seeing video of Obama golf, he makes Gerald Ford look like Jack Nicklaus.
Posted by: Corey
| December 31, 2008 3:38 PM
Thanks for all the responses. Solar I am honored and I won't make you cry unless I happened to be cutting onions. I do like to cook with onions.
Zoey's talk of Tollhouse sent me flying into the kitchen and the first batch is in the oven. I double the nuts and half the chips cuz sometime you feel lie a nut...
Posted by: ct | December 31, 2008 3:49 PM
"I suspect the mood around here will be rather morgue like. "
Definitely. I'd hoped Rick Warren would win...oops...he did.
Posted by: Patsi
| December 31, 2008 3:52 PM
Thanks to a very sleepy kid - now engaged in Family Guy watching and dozing on the couch, I have a little time to peek in.
Flatus - Ali appeared for but refused induction in1967. He was stripped of his NY boxing license and title then. He was convicted in of draft evasion, which was upheld by the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals, but in 1971 his conviction was overturned unanimously by the US SCt, which ruled that his CO status application based on his religion was legitimate and should have been granted.
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/obamabilia-big-busines-in-dc.html#comment-185892
Jamie, the NYD food story as it was passed down from my mom - whose family was from Opelika., AL (hard to get much more "South" than that) was if you expected to have good fortune in the new year, you had to eat pork (not exactly sure what the significance of the ork was), greens (turnip or mustard usually) for prosperity, and black eyed peas (preferably as Hoppin' John so that they are tolerably edible) for good luck. And we did eat those every year (and will again because I ... just ... can't... not) and hoped it would be better than the last.
Posted by: pogo | December 31, 2008 3:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XADRMmllKU4
Posted by: Corey
| December 31, 2008 3:56 PM
I'm baaaaaaack....
what a ride...... it's seems like only yesterday we were chopping holes in the ice on our brook to get pails of water in order to flush our toilet..... now.... at last..... we've rejoined the 21st century.....
HAPPY NEW YEAR!
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| December 31, 2008 4:00 PM
Good to have you back, Renee. You were missed!
Posted by: Corey
| December 31, 2008 4:08 PM
Solar -- that is my son-in-law...I added the only photo I have (that I can scan) of my daughter and Maria from a couple of years back.
http://practicallyperfectpatsi.wordpress.com/
Posted by: Patsi
| December 31, 2008 4:09 PM
I love The Quiet Man!
Here is my recipe for tamales- ( use the instructions from the video for assembling and steaming.) It comes from a great book "Cocina de la Familia", as Jamie said enlist help!.
2 lb. pork butt or shoulder
3 garlic cloves
1 1/2 tsp. sea salt
5 peppercorns
2 tblsp. pure chile powder with mixed chiles- I don't do this- just make more from the following chiles or you don't have to do any of this grinding stuff- just buy good chile powder
3 dried ancho chiles or california or new mexican-seeded, toasted and ground
1 dried chile de arbol -seeded, toated and ground
1/4 tsp. cumin
1 cup flour
3-4 tblsp canola or lard
1/2 dried mexican oregano
1/2 tsp. sea salt- depending on the saltiness of the broth
Cut up port into large pieces, place in large pot, cover with 6 inches of water. Flatten garlic, add to pot with salt and peppercorns. Bring to boil and let simmer about 1 1/2 hrs. until ready to fall apart. Remove pot from heat, let meat cool in broth. Remove meat, reserve broth and cut off any fat you don't want to eat. Shred meat and set aside. Add the chile powder, ground chiles and cumin to 3 cups of the broth and mix thoroughly. Brown flour in an ungreased skillet until lightly toasted; stir and shake the pan so that the flour doesn't burn. Drizzle in some of the oil until the flour is saturated and continue to stir until it is a deep khaki color. Slowly stir in the chile-broth mixture and cook over medium heat until the gravy thickens. Add the oregano and salt to taste. Stir and taste, adding more chile if necessary.
Stir half of the gravy into the shredded pork meat. Set aside3 remaining gravy to be reheated later.
Prepare the tamal batter.
4 cups masa harina
1 1/2 tsp baking powder
1 1/2 tsp. sea salt
3 coups lukewarm broth or water
2/3 cup lard or vegetable shortening
Mix masa harina, baking powder and salt together in a large bowl and stir in enough of the broth to make a most batter. Beat the lard with an electric mixer about 5 minutes, until creamy and fluffry. Mix with the masa , adding more water if needed. To make a spreadable batter, continue beating for at least another 10 minutes. Taste for salt and add more if necessary. The batter is ready when a spoonful dropped into cold water floats to the surface.
Line up the pile of corn husks, masa, filling and ties then assemble and steam tamales without opening for an hour. Serve with remaining gravy.
Enjoy!
Posted by: oldseahag
| December 31, 2008 4:11 PM
Renee -- You were missed! (AND worried about!)
Posted by: Patsi
| December 31, 2008 4:11 PM
The more I watch about the Burris appointment, the more I think that Harry Reid and the Senate Dems are being total asses. They welcome traitor Joe with open arms but reject a man with a clean if somewhat hack like record all because their noses are out of joint over Blago.
If Blago can't appoint Burris, then nothing he has done since being arrested is legal. A special election would cost the state (broke like the others) several million dollars.
Just let Burris be a stopgap senator and go on to try Blago for any crimes he might have committed and let the whole matter go into well deserved oblivion.
Posted by: Jamie
| December 31, 2008 4:21 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/obamabilia-big-busines-in-dc.html#comment-185927
Jamie, please - stop talking sense. :-)
Renee, welcome back to America. Not much has changed since you were banished to the wilderness. Sorry to say, but Bush is still president, and he's still stupid. Harry Reid's still SML, and he's still stupid. Hope you don't have Time Warner cable and weren't addictied to VH1 Classic (like me). The economy's still in the crapper. Oh well. Happy New Year.
Posted by: pogo | December 31, 2008 4:30 PM
hey.... I missed everyone here too....
Pogo.....after reading this thread.... I see nothing much has changed on this blog either..... we have Comcast.... they did hook up the road on Saturday..... but the fact that our wire was off the house kinda threw them for a loop..... guess they are Comcastically Unprepared......
we got plugged back in about 3 hrs ago...... just in time to watch Ryan Seacrest get hit with the new year's ball.... and of course to do the annual watch of the original Planet of the Apes....
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| December 31, 2008 4:43 PM
Welcome back Renee!
Posted by: oldseahag
| December 31, 2008 4:45 PM
For all of you who are still stunned, shaking your heads, and wondering what just happened:
Uncle Jay explains the News
http://www.unclejayexplains.com/media/UJ%2012-22-08.wmv
Posted by: Jamie
| December 31, 2008 4:46 PM
Wouldn't want to miss Chuck cry.
Posted by: pogo | December 31, 2008 4:46 PM
New Year's Eve evening here in Easton, CT (only 3" of snow fell--but very windy & cold now) & wanted to wish everyone a Happy New Year.
And from the NYT for those who may remember---
when Guy Lombardo was synonymous with New Year's Eve.
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/12/30/a-new-years-gig-1765-miles-from-the-waldorf/
Posted by: Coreen | December 31, 2008 4:50 PM
Well, all - now I really am off - everyone stay safe and warm.
Posted by: pogo | December 31, 2008 4:50 PM
Pogo -- what effect will the Fitzgerald request for 90 more days before he charges Blago? That is very strange -- what did he expect to happen with the appointment?
Posted by: Patsi
| December 31, 2008 4:53 PM
actually..... I'm gonna miss ol' Chuck's tears....
my neighbor is throwing a "we've all been through hell, so let's party tonight" party.....
we'll be walking through the snow to her house in a few hrs.....
everyone have fun!.....
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| December 31, 2008 5:18 PM
Animal Control,
Noticed you've posted a couple of times lately. Just want to thank you for the shout out a couple weeks ago. Have a very happy New Year! :)
.....
Renee, Welcome back! Glad you got your power back before 2009 arrives.
Posted by: chloe
| December 31, 2008 5:29 PM
"Now the entire campaign to de-legitimize Blagojevich is getting harder for U.S. senators and the U.S. attorney handling the case to make, George Washington University law professor Jonathan Turley and others told FOXNews.com.
"There is no question that (Burris) is the legitimate successor to Barack Obama. There is no controversy here as a matter of law. The controversy is purely political. People simply don't like the governor who appointed him," Turley said.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, though, said he and his colleagues will not seat Burris since he would enter the chamber "under a shadow" and be "plagued by questions of impropriety."
........
Since Burris has not been sworn in, the first tactic by the Senate may be simply to prevent that from happening, rather than wait until he's sworn in to expel him. But the senators' effort is complicated because Burris technically was appointed through a legal process.
Turley said that Reid would be pursuing a "dangerous precedent" if he tried to block Burris.
"There's no question in my view that this would be an abuse of the Senate's inherent authority."
Carl Tobias, a law professor at the University of Richmond, said one option for the Senate is to seat Burris and then refer the matter to committee for investigation.
"It's all very murky right now," Tobias said.
........
Both professors said they wouldn't be surprised if the matter headed to court."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2008/12/31/fast-campaign-weaken-blagojevich-hits-roadblocks/
Posted by: patd | December 31, 2008 5:38 PM
Bonne Annee a tous!
This has been the best holiday season my family's had for years. Hope you all enjoyed your respective Festivals of Light(s)!
I don't remember other transitions taking so interminably long; the more you look at George Bush's face, the more it begins to look like a foot.
Enjoy what's left of the holidays! (I'm off till the 8th of January, whoooppeeeee!!)
Posted by: tylenol
| December 31, 2008 5:50 PM
They finally came up with an Obama song that I really like: Michael Franti and Spearhead with The Obama Song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd9xU8cw1JE
Break out your dancing shoes.
Posted by: Jamie
| December 31, 2008 5:56 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/obamabilia-big-busines-in-dc.html#comment-185905
Zoey...Hoppin' John is also a traditional southern good luck meal for the new year, and is what we'll be serving tonight at our small party....
Wishing all of you the kind of year you're hoping for in 2009! HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
Posted by: harborwoman
| December 31, 2008 5:59 PM
Well it's officially 2009 now in Belgium... 12:02 am
HAPPY NEW YEAR from 2009 to 2008
Tom
Posted by: EuroTom
| December 31, 2008 6:02 PM
Sad to say that my NYE party got cancelled tonight. I was heading downtown to see a friend who has a new drag-act, but a kitchen fire has closed the place down. Sad, because he was revved up about his new Tanya Tucker songs. Guess it will be a quiet night after all.
Posted by: Patsi
| December 31, 2008 6:36 PM
Happy New Year ET.
Posted by: Jamie
| December 31, 2008 6:45 PM
tylenol said, "I'm off till the 8th of January."
you can celebrate Elvis's birthday on the 8th of January. There also is an old fiddle tune called "The 8th of January" but you may know it more as "The Battle of New Orleans." Jimmy Driftwood was singer/songwriter and part time history teacher in Arkansas when he wrote this tune to help keep the students interested in the subject. The year was 1936. It is said that Driftwood wrote over 6,000 songs in his lifetime. Another famous song is "The Tennessee Stud."
Posted by: yo soy Horsedooty!
| December 31, 2008 6:53 PM
Doots -- did you ever go to his yearly festival? My sister used to pack up her guitar and head to Arkansas every year.
Posted by: Patsi
| December 31, 2008 7:00 PM
Photos of my company dinner... It was a good time, it was the best time, it was a party, just to be together...
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=181077&l=0283f&id=1441770734
Posted by: EuroTom
| December 31, 2008 7:42 PM
no apologies necessary rita, nice post and happy new year!
Posted by: oldseahag
| December 31, 2008 8:24 PM
Happy New Year Rita
I hope 2009 brings you all you desire.
Posted by: Jamie
| December 31, 2008 8:33 PM
AOL: Growing majority worried over eligibility
"An unscientific poll being conducted by America Online reveals more and more people are having second thoughts about Barack Obama's eligibility to occupy the Oval Office.
Those who raised questions about his vague history before the election largely drew scorn from the mainstream media, which cited an online image from Obama's campaign that purportedly proved his U.S. citizenship with a Hawaiian "Certification of Live Birth."
But the latest results from the America Online poll reveal that nationwide only 41 percent of the participants now believe there is no issue to be investigated.
Fifty-three percent nationwide, and majorities in 45 states individually, say "yes" when asked if there is "any merit" to the controversy surrounding his citizenship. Even in Obama's own state, Illinois, the opinion is split 47-47 percent on the issue. "
http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=84990
Posted by: GORDO | December 31, 2008 8:41 PM
Rita: Thank You, for your kind words. Happy New Year!I Hope 2009, brings PEACE,and Understanding. I like you did not vote for Obama, but he is going to be our next POTUS. I will hold my judgment of him,until I see what he is going to do. He has to show me that he is a man of his word, not just a man who knows how to use words.
Posted by: Lampe | December 31, 2008 8:42 PM
Oh for crying out loud Gordo .... AOL is like saying Aging Old Laggards.
Any poll conducted there might as well have a stone with Rest In Piece because we are almost gone erected over it.
Posted by: Jamie
| December 31, 2008 8:46 PM
"Later on we learned about Hawaiian law in effect at the time of Obama's birth that allowed parents or guardians of babies born in a foreign country to register the foreign births in Hawaii and to receive a COLB as evidence of that registration.
After learning this information many concerned Americans had doubts about whether the COLB was sufficient proof that Obama was in fact born in Hawaii.
... the conflicting statements of Obama and his sister concerning in which Hawaiian hospital he was born; the failure of any Hawaiian hospital to confirm that Obama and/or his mother were present in any such hospital at the time of Obama's alleged birth in Honolulu; Director of Hawaiian Department of Heath, Fukino, said she has “personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures," but she failed to say that the certificate shows that Obama was born in Hawaii ..."
http://drorly.blogspot.com/2008/12/obama-has-not-met-his-burden-of-proving.html
Posted by: GORDO | December 31, 2008 9:04 PM
If you haven't connected with one of the best series on TV, HBO is running True Blood from first to last for season One.
Early episodes are overloaded with sex. HBO got wise and dialed it back some so the parents would allow the teens in the family watch.
Posted by: Jamie
| December 31, 2008 9:07 PM
And the percentage of people who live in the IT world is how big? :-)
Posted by: Jamie
| December 31, 2008 9:20 PM
Thanks guys. I'm on AOL. We don't always agree in polls but we did always vote for Hillary in the primary polls.
I thought I was the only one who skipped New Years Parties for a cozy night at home. Eating chili,Tollhouse cookies and protecting the dog from firecracker noise. Also watching LSU kick some Georgia butt.
Posted by: ct | December 31, 2008 9:24 PM
I mean Georgia Tech butt.
Posted by: ct | December 31, 2008 9:26 PM
ct
Apologies. That is AOL's reputation. Their members tend to be elderly, very conservative, and unwilling or unable to venture out into the great wide world of the net.
Posted by: Jamie
| December 31, 2008 9:29 PM
Some just can't wait to denigrate others--must be in their DNA.
Posted by: Pot to Kettle | December 31, 2008 9:30 PM
Never have been called conservative but I am working toward the elderly part but still have a ways to go.
Posted by: ct | December 31, 2008 9:34 PM
ct
You may need to find a different gate to the outside world. 2009 will finally see me officially a "senior" at 65, but I don't let that interfere with the brave new world. :-)
Posted by: Jamie
| December 31, 2008 9:38 PM
Kettle to Pot
Aliases are cowards.
Posted by: Jamie
| December 31, 2008 9:40 PM
I found this joint after watching Craig on TV and finding him to be one the few guys I agreed with. I wanted to tell him thank you and ended up discovering this blog. It was the most intelligent blogs I have come across on the net. It has been an enjoyable experience and you are all very interesting specimens.
Posted by: ct | December 31, 2008 9:43 PM
A few hours ago I received a late Christmas present ,,,and an early new years one,,,received a phone call from an Architect friend of m ine---told me that I had mail-------a client of his is building a new house in a suburbs and he recommended me to him,,,we have had some preliminary agreements and it looks like something very good for my co...so I will be up all night studying blue prints and tomorrow also,,,,getting ready for a Friday meeting,,,,that's a good thing,,,,the bad thing is might be working in the freezing cold----but nothing new.
OSH---sorry if I said something wrong--back there ---was just trying to tease you a little
I see that RR made it back--that nice
Chole --at 12:01 sending you a big hug
Patsi--no more guessing,,,the only thing that I got right is that rabbit that was sitting on you lap again----but little M is what counts ---so I have that right huh,,,sorry about your not making your party---If I was there I would pick u up ---and we would hit the nearest Hill-Bill-Tex-Mex joint and get in trouble together. :-)))
Rosie-----:-))))))
Happy New Year's to all
Posted by: SolarCrete
| December 31, 2008 9:46 PM
"Aliases are cowards"
Proves my statement.
Posted by: Pot to Kettle | December 31, 2008 9:46 PM
ct
It is a wonderful place. Most of the time peaceful and inhabited by well read and ver intelligent folks who like to discuss politics when they aren't veering off into music and local events. Have you had a chance to make the rounds of the trailmixer blogs? Craig links to them under "blogroll" on the left.
Posted by: Jamie
| December 31, 2008 9:46 PM
And your response proves mine.
Posted by: Jamie
| December 31, 2008 9:48 PM
Yes I have and have enjoyed them also.
Posted by: ct | December 31, 2008 9:50 PM
ct
Do you have one?
Posted by: Jamie
| December 31, 2008 9:52 PM
No Jamie, I barely have time to work, do all my chores and keep up with this blog. I thought that maybe when I retire but then there was this ecomony thing that happened. Retirement money went into the ozone.
Posted by: ct | December 31, 2008 9:56 PM
ct
What kind of work do you do?
Posted by: Jamie
| December 31, 2008 10:05 PM
"you are all very interesting specimens"
Patd was right we are lab rats----and now he has an assistant ---Carol--(kidding)---Happy New Year --Craig.
Posted by: SolarCrete
| December 31, 2008 10:07 PM
I am a nurse practitioner and provide the medical care for about 1300 inmates at our local jail/prison. Never a dull moment. It is actually my retirement job. I am a retired nurse educator.
Posted by: ct | December 31, 2008 10:11 PM
My aunt was a nurse. Needless to say I have a low opinon of most doctors. :-)
It must be difficult working with that large a population of prisoners. Is it a county jail or a long term facility?
Posted by: Jamie
| December 31, 2008 10:16 PM
Solar, studying people has always been my favorite hobby. So much I can learn and I see everyone as my teachers even my inmates. I do skip learning anything re: their crimimal activities since if I am seeing them the criminal activity was not very sucessful.
What is really pitiful is that most of the poor people in jail haven't done anything close to what is being done to us by many of those in our government and on Wallstreet.
Posted by: ct | December 31, 2008 10:20 PM
36 years practicing in many different roles as a nurse/clinical nurse specialist/nurse educator/diabetes educator/ etc and it takes all that plus to take care of my inmates. Many have serious mental problems in addition to being excellent manipulators. It has been my most challenging job. It also can be very rewarding.
Posted by: ct | December 31, 2008 10:27 PM
Carol
Im glad that you are out of the bad mood your were put in by those bastards ---I lost very big time in the last year and a half----but will have to keep my head down and get to work,,,that is the only way that I know how to keep going---wish that it was spring---more of a positive atmosphere ,,,,,,I also study people a lot---had 28 employees once,,,and knew what they were thinking just by the way they walked,,talked,,body language,,,,they thought that a was a Bruho----Warlock,,,I just knew them well.-I joined up here for exactly the same reason that you did
Question----I did not write down the date that I made my first post --- how can I find out?
Posted by: SolarCrete
| December 31, 2008 10:35 PM
Solar- don't be silly, I was just teasing too! I didn't respond because I went out for a bit. There is this man on the island with a great irish name and the map of Ireland on his face, hot in a scruffy way.. Well, he is a singer songwriter guitarist, sings irish sounding, sea chantey type tunes. He isn't a technically brilliant singer but anyways sometimes when I hear him sing and he catches my eye, I have to look away for fear he can see too far into my soul. I thought I'd end the year on a good note and go listen for a bit. This island is so weird sometimes. We got 6 inches of snow (maybe) so very few people were at the concert and they stopped early, all done by the time I got there. It was a pretty drive though, the snow is still stuck to the trees and creating all sorts of snow sculptures about.
Posted by: oldseahag
| December 31, 2008 10:41 PM
I have to go over to TM's photo's and see what he sees,,,,,, Im back----nice picture, very nice,,how old did you day you were,?,,,,want some candy little girl :-)))
Posted by: SolarCrete
| December 31, 2008 10:54 PM
Where are TMs photos? Are you talking about Anima?
Posted by: ct | December 31, 2008 10:59 PM
Solar- you are a crazy one, and don't be taking my line!
Posted by: oldseahag
| December 31, 2008 11:09 PM
Ct- I think he is talking about TM on facebook.
Posted by: oldseahag
| December 31, 2008 11:10 PM
http://www.facebook.com/
Carol---here is how i got in---
Posted by: SolarCrete
| December 31, 2008 11:13 PM
not he right one---now it's diff??
Posted by: SolarCrete
| December 31, 2008 11:14 PM
What's different? Are you on facebook Solar?
Posted by: oldseahag
| December 31, 2008 11:16 PM
http://www.facebook.com/srch.php?nm=Krista%20Ross
Carol I got in on this one when Rosie gave it to me,,,,no Im not in it---OSH.
Posted by: SolarCrete
| December 31, 2008 11:20 PM
things are not going right----Krista Ross it the 7th one on the 2nd page---from there you can see some of the people from here---that site keeps bouncing me around--so I hope that it lets you in
Posted by: SolarCrete
| December 31, 2008 11:25 PM
Happy New Year Trail Mixers! My kids are hosting an all-night gaming session and I'm here watching CNN. Kathy and Anderson are a great combination -- she's made him blush throughout the evening. Also really good to see Bill and Hill dancing in Times Square.
Here's to 2009 -- come what may!
Posted by: Divalicias
| January 1, 2009 12:11 AM
HNY, y'all.
tt
Posted by: tiptoe
| January 1, 2009 12:36 AM
Doots -- did you ever go to his yearly festival? My sister used to pack up her guitar and head to Arkansas every year.
No, sadly I was never able to go. Woulda been real fun. Have you heard or do you know John Hartford's kid Jamie Hartford? He is a pretty good musician.
Tiptoe goes to the Woody Guthrie festival every July in Okema, Oklahoma. Never been there either but I been in Oklahoma in July and it is mucho caliente.
Posted by: yo soy Horsedooty!
| January 1, 2009 1:20 AM
Happy New Year to all......
Make it a great Year
Just Ping
Posted by: Ping Pong
| January 1, 2009 3:21 AM
I just got the coolest message from a very good friend of mine that I met in college. Tedd was editor of the school newspaper and we were both passionate about politics... We found each other on Facebook...
First Tedd wrote: is wondering if conservatives no longer take free markets seriously, why should liberals? - http://washingtonindependent.com/22352/the-ca se-for-spending-more
I wrote to him: Happy New Year Tedd.. Needless to say, I really miss you. The election of 2008 reminds me of the excitement we had in 1992 when Bill Clinton was elected! Love the thought on free markets.. LOL
And then Tedd wrote to me, which turns out to be a "classic me" moment, speaking out against the ideology of a Washington State Employment Security representative who was in our MPA class denouncing government providing public jobs...
Tedd says: "1992 was exciting, but in hindsight Bill was only able to slowdown the coservative bullshit that started in the 60's. Over the past year I've often thought of the heretical verbal drubbing you gave a rep from Employment Security visiting our mpa class because he did "not think government should create jobs.". You were precient, flying in the face of new democrat/pro market bs that dominated until recently. All that bs has been repeatedly refuted by the facts on the ground all over the world."
WOW... you know, sometimes I feel I am far less eloquent than I used to be, maybe a disconnect from the USA, perhaps because I do not attend classes any more and perhaps because my language is used less than before and when I do speak English I often have to use broken words with my customers... This message of Tedd made my first day of 2009 to be a beautiful one.
It's going to be a great year!
HAPPY NEW YEAR
Posted by: EuroTom
| January 1, 2009 3:49 AM
"Have you heard or do you know John Hartford's kid Jamie Hartford? He is a pretty good musician."
Doots -- I've only met Jamie a couple of times, and it was years back. Yes -- his music is great...
John was already pretty sick by the time I first heard Jamie play. (Although John Hartford danced and fiddled his way around cancer for a long time....he kept that sorry disease guessing!).
John was a dear friend -- and one of my personal heroes. And boy did he love that river....
Happy New Year!
Posted by: Patsi
| January 1, 2009 5:44 AM
happy brand new 2009 january oneth!
patsi, just looked at the photo of your daughter and grandchild. maria has such beautiful startling blue eyes in it.... have they become more intense and expressive as she's grown older?
Posted by: patd | January 1, 2009 6:43 AM
flatus, what did you think of yesterday's spytalk re carter not retaining bush discussion?
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/spytalk/
Posted by: patd | January 1, 2009 6:52 AM
patd -- Maria's eyes seem to change color now...sometimes they are blue, sometimes greenish blue...very interesting. But they always are "sharp." She doesn't miss much!
It's fun and funny to see my only grandbaby with fairly light hair and eyes....both my children were very dark, solid brown eyes....when my son and daughter went into Mexican restaurants, the waiters and waitresses almost always began speaking to them in Spanish.
Posted by: Patsi
| January 1, 2009 7:11 AM
patd, it would have been wonderful if Mr Carter could have bypassed the presidency and gone straight to Habitat.
He did more damage to reasonable and proper intelligence gathering than any individual in my experience.
I spent hours and hours hiding information, not from foreign operatives, but my own government. This was done solely for the protection of our sources and methods.
Posted by: Flatus
| January 1, 2009 7:18 AM
Patsi, I would send you a few pictures of Autumn, but somehow I think, despite her beauty and demeanor, you would find her a distant second to your Maria. :)
HNY to you and all the other good people here!
Posted by: Flatus
| January 1, 2009 7:22 AM
"HNY to you and all the other good people here!"
and to all the bad ones too. comity, my friend flatus, comity.
1 a: friendly social atmosphere : social harmony b: a loose widespread community based on common social institutions c: comity of nations d: the informal and voluntary recognition by courts of one jurisdiction of the laws and judicial decisions of another
2: avoidance of proselytizing members of another religious denomination. [merriam-webster]
Posted by: patd | January 1, 2009 7:45 AM
Comity--drones wandering about their hive.
Posted by: Flatus
| January 1, 2009 7:47 AM
sen. burris
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/blagojevich/1358089,CST-NWS-burris01.article
Posted by: patd | January 1, 2009 7:51 AM
drones they may be, but at least they're civil drones.
Posted by: patd | January 1, 2009 7:52 AM
comity ain't divine if it means unlimited intellectual sacrifice merely for the sake of 'peace'.
Posted by: Flatus
| January 1, 2009 7:53 AM
Patsi,
IMO and it does not account for much, the Hartford album "Steam Powered Airplane" is one of the finest collections of music that has ever been produced.
A friend of mine used play banjo on the General Jackson at Opryland. Hartford had a house on top of the cliffs somewhere along the river. I was able to spend the day with Greg once on the General and when we passed his house, the boat blew its horn and Hartford blew his horn in response. In my mind, very cool.
Happy New Year to you also.
I spent last night at a friends house. He has a western swing band called the Texas Trailhands. They put on a house concert for free. Was fun. We had food and music. Alcohol free.
Allan Chapman is his name. He spent 15 or so years in Nashville working for United Artists as a songwriter. Did you ever run across him in town?
Posted by: yo soy Horsedooty!
| January 1, 2009 8:26 AM
About New Years resolutions, not to worry everyone. :)
Don't Do It; You're Perfect Already
"Each year, on or around Jan. 1, a substantial number of reasonable Americans embark on the futile task of pledging to eliminate one toxic activity or another from their lives. Don't. You're already perfect."
http://www.denverpost.com/harsanyi
I sure hope this carton from that same paper is wrong:
http://www.denverpost.com/opinion/ci_11337131
............
"we have had some preliminary agreements and it looks like something very good for my co...so I will be up all night studying blue prints"
Solar, Congratulations on getting that job! Working in the cold is better than not working at all.
Posted by: chloe
| January 1, 2009 8:30 AM
Someones fantasy?
What if Obama legalizes marijuana to help stimulate the economy?
Why Obama Really Might Decriminalize Marijuana
"The stoner community is clamoring to say it: "Yes we cannabis!" Turns out, with several drug-war veterans close to the president-elect's ear, insiders think reform could come in Obama's second term -- or sooner."
http://www.esquire.com/the-side/richardson-report/obama-marijuana-legalization-122308
Posted by: chloe
| January 1, 2009 8:33 AM
"Many have serious mental problems in addition to being excellent manipulators. It has been my most challenging job. It also can be very rewarding."
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/obamabilia-big-busines-in-dc.html#comment-185992
Carol, I bet it can also be depressing at times (?)
Posted by: chloe
| January 1, 2009 8:41 AM
The Woman Who Blew the Whistle on Blago
Whistle-blower
"Pamela Davis, blond suburban mother of three, was told that her bra would be the best place to wear the wire that kick-started a long investigation into Chicago graft and that ultimately caught the governor of Illinois trying to sell Barack Obama’s Senate seat. Davis is the president and C.E.O. of Edward Hospital, in Naperville, Illinois..."
http://www.newyorker.com/talk/2009/01/05/090105ta_talk_burleigh
Posted by: chloe
| January 1, 2009 8:48 AM
Sea and Rita
Happy New Year!! Thanks for the wonderful words to me in your earlier posts........
Posted by: tonyb39
| January 1, 2009 8:51 AM
".I will not set on the sidelines though and watch i will speak up,Chloe taught me that here during the primaries,Thank you Chloe!!"
Tony, There were a lot of rough times. One of the things that got me through them was you. You've always been so unquestioningly supportive through the bad times, and there were many times that you were the only reason I came back here.
Happy New Year!
Posted by: chloe
| January 1, 2009 8:53 AM
Chloe
Happy New Year!
Thanks for that wonderful link earlier in the thread on Hillary being New Yorker of the Year...Enjoyed...
Posted by: tonyb39
| January 1, 2009 8:54 AM
"you would find her a distant second to your Maria. :)"
ROFL, Flatus -- Not at all. As people (friends from the music business, and of my children) started sending me pictures of their little daughters this year, I found myself exclaiming each time -- "OH! She's the most beautiful...." etc etc.
I love the way babies/toddlers differ. Two of my great nieces had new sons a little over a year ago. One is as blond and blue-eyed as you'd ever see, and the other (whose father is Hispanic) has jet black hair and sparkling black eyes. I absolutely love seeing their pictures side by side on my fridge -- what a couple of handsome guys. A snapshot of America. And reminiscent of "Giant."
And the funny thing is, the little guy who most looks like he "belongs" in my father's family, is the Hispanic. He does look a lot like his great great granddaddy.
Posted by: Patsi
| January 1, 2009 8:54 AM
"drones they may be, but at least they're civil drones."
ROFL....but you must admit that much destruction can happen under the nose of "comity."
Posted by: Patsi
| January 1, 2009 8:57 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/obamabilia-big-busines-in-dc.html#comment-186036
Chloe
I feel the same way.I can't forget how badly you were treated (buy some that I like) just for having your own thoughts and opinions and it changed me for the better because i became more tolerant of differences and i learned to appreciate them!. I also remember a few times wanting to go away but you kept me coming back.Glad...
Posted by: tonyb39
| January 1, 2009 9:02 AM
"A snapshot of America. And reminiscent of "Giant."
I love the way you put that Patsi!
Now I have to hurry, we're taking off soon.
Happy 2009! A new year, another chance. :)
Posted by: chloe
| January 1, 2009 9:03 AM
Happy New Year shout to Chloe, Patsi, Solar, et al. My New Year wish for you is best said by Mick Jagger.
Rolling Stones - You Can't Always Get What You Want - Live!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0jyKabLHVc
Posted by: Animal Control | January 1, 2009 9:04 AM
Good morning everyone and Happy New Year. I was sitting here trying to decide which bad habit I would attempt to change and fail trying. Then I read the article you cited and realized I don't have to. Whew!
Yes Chloe, you can say depressing. It is more frustrating. Many inmates come in with horrible medical conditions, we make good progress in addressing them, they get out, don't do a thing to follow up and are back in even worse condition.
Posted by: ct | January 1, 2009 9:11 AM
Happy New Year All
The Obamas will be at my favorite hotel in DC until the 15th. I just love the Hay Adams. Must check lottery numbers to see if I can afford it now. :-)
Posted by: Jamie
| January 1, 2009 9:16 AM
"comity ain't divine if it means unlimited intellectual sacrifice merely for the sake of 'peace'."
flatus, certainly don't want to censure anyone or ban especially the thought-provokers. only advocating for less addled hominy (or whatever our gracious host chided us about) and for more bons mots, eruditely and civily proffered with equanimity.
Posted by: patd | January 1, 2009 9:17 AM
Obama seems so relaxed and at ease on his vacation. If I was facing what he is going to face I would be inside fretting but I guess when your going to be the bossman you can delegate that. It's nice to be King.
Posted by: ct | January 1, 2009 9:21 AM
"Hartford had a house on top of the cliffs somewhere along the river. I was able to spend the day with Greg once on the General and when we passed his house, the boat blew its horn and Hartford blew his horn in response. In my mind, very cool."
Yes -- John loved that place -- and entertained every holiday season. He was such a fine man. There was an elderly man who lived nearby (on just social security), whose landlord doubled his rent. The old man was one John loved sitting by the river and talking to...and when John learned what was happening, he immediately converted his garage into a "guest house" and invited the old gent to live there. (free pof charge)
I don't recall ever knowing Allan Chapman. The name is familiar though....not surprising in Nashville. You hear about far more people than you know!
Posted by: Patsi
| January 1, 2009 9:25 AM
PS -- Doots -- ain't nothing better than Texas swing....
Posted by: Patsi
| January 1, 2009 9:27 AM
When you cross that old Red River, Bob and Tommy are still the Kings....
Posted by: Patsi
| January 1, 2009 9:35 AM
"less addled hominy"
Ha, patd -- is that grits? :)
Posted by: Patsi
| January 1, 2009 9:38 AM
Patsi what great photos !!!
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/obamabilia-big-busines-in-dc.html#comment-185924
Posted by: EuroTom
| January 1, 2009 9:44 AM
they are a really a novelty band. They do a lot of Roy Rogers and Gene Autry stuff and they are mostly acoustic. The lead guitar player plugs in on live gigs. The girl singer is the voice and she sings the part of Jessie the Yodeling Cowgirl on the Disney release "Toy Story II record. She is very good. She does some dates with Riders In The Sky.
www.texastrailhands.com
Posted by: yo soy Horsedooty!
| January 1, 2009 9:48 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/obamabilia-big-busines-in-dc.html#comment-186021
How in the world did America survive all it's years without a CIA to create reasons to spy on people and to disrupt legitimate gatherings and conduct assassinations of Heads of State that did not do the USA's bidding??
Thank god we got the spy network back up and working and that with the wonderful thing known as the internet, everything and anything we write or visit is collected by spy agencies in order to protect "freedom". Now, who is spying on the spys?
Flatus I don't know if you were an "intelligence" worker in the past, and it's no dig on you that I express my great concern about intelligence abuses. Last night I watched "Meet the Fockers" which was on BBC. Now I picture you as Robert Di Niro's role as the retired CIA agent. Hope you're still in the "circle of trust"... :)
Posted by: EuroTom
| January 1, 2009 9:48 AM
I thought patd was speaking in tongues and only the gifted will understand.
Posted by: ct | January 1, 2009 9:49 AM
I have to leave, but regarding Tony, he's been nothing but a gentleman the whole time he has been here and Tony, if you were in Belgium, I am sure we would be best friends...
Bye all, just got home from doing inventory of my shop. So much for my vacation. We're gonna relax now and watch a DVD... cheerio...
ET
Posted by: EuroTom
| January 1, 2009 9:54 AM
Patsi,
here is Allan's website for his solo CD.
I was proud to be asked to shoot the cover photo for the project.
http://allanchapman.net/
Posted by: yo soy Horsedooty!
| January 1, 2009 9:55 AM
Senor Horsedooty
That is a nice photograph. Clicking on the link brings up an email form, not a shopping site. Is there anyway to hear him and how does money change hands?
Posted by: Jamie
| January 1, 2009 10:06 AM
Jamie,
thanks.
I don't know the answer to your question. I will call him today and ask that question for you. I think you might get an idea of what he sounds like from the trailhands CD link.
Posted by: yo soy Horsedooty!
| January 1, 2009 10:14 AM
Feleiz Anio Nuevo =HNY
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/obamabilia-big-busines-in-dc.html#comment-186038
Patsi--- love your post to Flatus, about babies,,,,,what you said is right on with what I believe is the first true feelings( collective) all human beings share around the world,,the love of all babies and themselves---the love of your species ?? P.S. there so many babies in our family that is hard to keep tract of all of them----but each and every one of them are a diff, and have their very own little characteristics.
PATD------- it took a little while for me to understand your post above,,,and still working on it-----once again----you fibbed a little to me when you said that you were not a word meister ---you are the best one!
This my favorite one (word) that I have learned from you,,,,,,and I say it over ,,and over,,,I also repeat it cos I say the same thing more than once some times-----------I hope that Craig used it in his book several of times,,,,,sorry could not resist being corny again---------ITERATIVE----- so once again thanks.oops :-)))
Chloe
Thanks ---pretty sure I will get it --but like I said once before . I don't count on anything until all the contracts are signed,,,keeps one from too many disappointments.
Posted by: SolarCrete
| January 1, 2009 10:22 AM
"www.texastrailhands.com"
What a fun band!! I especially love the name "Hoot Al."
And I can't imagine a better bunch to spend a NYE with....
Posted by: Patsi
| January 1, 2009 10:22 AM
actually the only place I could find was their myspace site and that is for the trailhands.
http://www.myspace.com/texastrailhands
try the number 5 song "The Illustrated Cowboy"
Posted by: yo soy Horsedooty!
| January 1, 2009 10:27 AM
Doots -- Was Rodeo Kate at the party? You have friends with the BEST names!!!!
Posted by: Patsi
| January 1, 2009 10:27 AM
PS --Great album cover shot! Congrats!
Posted by: Patsi
| January 1, 2009 10:32 AM
Rodeo Kate is Hoot Al's third wife. The party was at their house. Kate raises show goats. They presently have about 24 goats in various ages.
Also, at the myspace page there is a nice story about Al's grandparents. Called "Red Silk Bandana" Give it a listen.
Posted by: yo soy Horsedooty!
| January 1, 2009 10:34 AM
"http://www.myspace.com/texastrailhands"
Good stuff!
Posted by: Patsi
| January 1, 2009 10:37 AM
Doots -- I love to hear those trail songs....I grew up around the Cimarron cutoff part of the Santa Fe Trail, out by Dodge City. Others see that part of the country as desolate....I love it.
Posted by: Patsi
| January 1, 2009 10:44 AM
Those plains can be magical....once my mom and I pulled off to the side of the road to watch 5 (count 'em!) tornados dancing on the horizon -- miles from us....it was glorious to watch...they dipped and swayed, almost like a ballet....I wished I'd had a camera -- not the ratty little ones I ever had though -- a really good one like what you probably use, Doots!
Posted by: Patsi
| January 1, 2009 10:48 AM
Happy New Year all!
For those who would like to see the Clintons dancing and celebrating the New Year, here is a link to a video. They look happy.
Clintons, Revelers Ring in 2009 in Times Square
http://wcbstv.com/cbsnational/new.years.eve.2.898124.html
Posted by: oldseahag
| January 1, 2009 10:58 AM
"I wished I'd had a camera -- not the ratty little ones I ever had though -- a really good one like what you probably use, Doots!"
My main camera is very old, Patsi. It can not be newer than about 1950 because that is when they quit making that particular style. The camera is a large format camera that is mostly made of wood. To operate it it has to be on a tripod and to focus you have to crawl under a big blanket and the damned image is upside down. Pain in the @ss. Now, the taking lenses are some of the best in the commercial world. They are older but in excellent shape. The negative measures 4x5 inches.
I, too, love the plains. I once drove up Hwy 287 from Ft Worth to Amarillo and it was raining off and on the whole time. Closer I got to Amarillo and I 40 the tornadoes started to appear. Very spooky. Nothing much out there for them to tear up but maybe some fence posts and wire. Still....
Posted by: yo soy Horsedooty!
| January 1, 2009 11:17 AM
Patsi
Don't stop your conversation with H D---fantastic------I can imagine all kinds of names ---Side Saddle Sally-(Chloe) ha----5 tornados and you made it to 50 thats great
Posted by: SolarCrete
| January 1, 2009 11:35 AM
I'd love to be fifty again, Solar! Fifty kicked my butt goodbye thirteen years ago.
Posted by: Patsi
| January 1, 2009 11:38 AM
I know zero about photography, Dooty....but don't people fight for those vintage cameras? Don't they take a photo in a very different way? (I may have seen that in a tv show...ha)
Oh, yeah -- I love the Texas and Oklahoma panhandles....likewise SW Kansas and Eastern Colorado. It's funny to hear various band members talk about that drive along I-70 between Kansas City and Denver -- once you get past Eastern Kansas, you hit the real plains. Some of the guys I've met -- very few -- LOVE that drive -- others are slightly horrified by the lack of anything, including trees.
To me, there is nothing better than dawn on the plains, and the sound of a train whistle in the distance.
Posted by: Patsi
| January 1, 2009 11:43 AM
As Mickey Newbury once told me, "Nobody understands a train song like a flatlander."
Posted by: Patsi
| January 1, 2009 11:45 AM
Patsi---I forgot the tax--50 plus tax=63--less actual condition --mental,etc-----63--less--13= 50,, now leave it at that and stop arguing like a 63 year old kid---I love that picture of Maria and your daughter,,
Posted by: SolarCrete
| January 1, 2009 11:52 AM
Messiah Included
Fun A Look Back
http://sarah-palin-2012.blogspot.com/2008/12/2008-in-photos-and-verse.html
Posted by: Ree | January 1, 2009 12:21 PM
Messiah Included
Fun A Look Back
http://sarah-palin-2012.blogspot.com/2008/12/2008-in-photos-and-verse.html
Posted by: Ree | January 1, 2009 12:21 PM
Now this doesn't sound good. Who will be left in my country? Chloe, Solar, C-Bob?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=103&topic_id=411220&mesg_id=412191
Posted by: ct | January 1, 2009 12:31 PM
Don't blame me for that dumb story. It was on CNN.
Posted by: ct | January 1, 2009 12:38 PM
I don't want to be in the Atlantic America....I want the Central North American Republic....
Posted by: Patsi
| January 1, 2009 12:48 PM
Isn't that Uncle Jay thing the one Jamie posted a few days ago? Or is this something new?
Posted by: Patsi
| January 1, 2009 12:51 PM
Oh Carol
That guy is full of------and himself----along ethnic lines is how this country was built----if we can only live intermixed like some community's have show possible,,,than there is no way in hell....The Texas part is the only thing that I can see happening----in 30-40 years the Hispanic influence will have that effect I think----We should have made Mexico (all of it) part of the U.S. when we invaded them in 1846.
Alaska----I have faith in Gov Palin------she won't lose it to the Ruskies-----she will defend it with tooth and nail----and a little lipstick,,,,,but I will go to Minn---to see my beefalos Patsi
Posted by: SolarCrete
| January 1, 2009 12:54 PM
The thread that wouldn't die.
Happy New Year boys and girls.
While working on my "Lou Dobbs Must Go" piece I came across this little item . In 2007 I tried to track some of this stuff real closely, and I saw these things all over the world. This past year , I didn't do it with as much zeal, but this one news item confirms to me that what I saw in 07' hasn't slowed down :
" Following nearly three years of sparse rainfall, 2008 is poised to go into the record books as the state's wettest year ever, eclipsing even the Great Flood year of 1993. "
2008 one of wettest years ever in Mo
( 2008 beat 1993 by a hair in Mo.)
http://www.usatoday.com/weather/news/2009-01-01-missouri-precipitation_N.htm
" Missouri State Climatologist Pat Guinan said the most precipitation recorded in Missouri in 2008 was in Unionville, near the Iowa border, where a weather station logged 73.96 inches — almost double the town’s average of 37.26 inches.
But Miller, in Lawrence County, wasn’t far behind, reporting more than 72 inches for the year. "
http://www.joplinglobe.com/joplin_metro/local_story_366215348.html
----------------------
These extreme rain / snow events are increasing in number, and they don't just last for a day or two, many of them have nothing to do with tropical storms. It rained 18 inches in 6 hours at Marble Falls, Texas in 2007 without a hurricane. That one still boggles my mind. Several cities in the Northwest led by Spokane , have just booked the largest snow records ever. Spokane just received 5 feet for the month of December. Countless other places have recorded far more.
This is what the models predicted.
We better get a good FEMA director folks, we're gonna need one.
Posted by: Colorado Bob | January 1, 2009 1:55 PM
In terms of insured losses, Hurricane Ike was the most expensive individual event in 2008. Whereas in the previous two years, the US mainland had largely been spared by heavy cyclones, the 2008 hurricane season generated substantial losses which also affected the insurance industry. Six tropical cyclones (Dolly, Edouard, Fay, Gustav, Hanna, and Ike) reached the US coast in close succession this year, the severest being Ike, which made landfall as a Category 2 hurricane near Galveston (Texas). The storm surge triggered by Ike submerged large sections of the Texas and Louisiana coast. As the storm progressed over the mainland, extreme precipitation caused more and more damage, resulting in an insured loss estimated at US$ 15bn (not including the claims covered under the National Flood Insurance Program). The overall loss caused by Ike was US$ 30bn. The year’s second most expensive hurricane was Gustav, with an overall loss of US$ 10bn and an insured loss of US$ 5bn.
http://www.munichre.com/en/press/press_releases/2008/2008_12_29_press_release.aspx
-----------
Just 2 storms cost us 40 billion dollars in 2008.
Posted by: Colorado Bob | January 1, 2009 2:19 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/obamabilia-big-busines-in-dc.html#comment-185959
KEYWORD: UNSCIENTIFIC
Describes Gordo to a T....
Posted by: EuroTom
| January 1, 2009 2:26 PM
Just heard something on radio that has crossed my little grey cells a few times. King George and his various dupes and spokesliars keep saying that he has kept us safe from terra since 9/11. With all of that eavesdropping, undercover activities, keeping watch on everyone not to mention the billions spent on anti terra and war on drugs plus all the money spent supposedly wiping out the poppy crops that are now more plentiful than ever, can you explain why heroin and cocaine are so easy to get here in the well protected homeland?
I would love to have one of theoretically investigative type reporters stand up and ask that one.
Posted by: Jamie
| January 1, 2009 2:37 PM
i certainly can't feel sorry about someone who builds
a house 50feet from the oceans edge, on a foundation of sand, then gets on tv ands cries about
how they got wiped out'
dumbass should have known better
there have always been hurricanes ''won't stop just
because people have decided to develop every
square inch of beach
Posted by: mqw | January 1, 2009 2:44 PM
mqw -
Ike went over the Houston Ship Channel . The single most important complex of infrastructure we may have.
Posted by: Colorado Bob | January 1, 2009 2:55 PM
C-Bob -- since tropical storms aren't the increased rainfall cause, are there theories out there? And is it just in pockets?
Posted by: Patsi
| January 1, 2009 2:57 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/obamabilia-big-busines-in-dc.html#comment-186057
Tom
Thanks for your kindness! I believe you are right we would be best friends..I like smart and passionate people and you sure fit that description.. Glad your feeling better.Happy New Year!!
Posted by: tonyb39
| January 1, 2009 3:06 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/obamabilia-big-busines-in-dc.html#comment-185945
"leather queens are as annoying as disco queens, not there's much difference!"
Ha,i don't find leather or disco queens annoying,but i do find Bitchy queens annoying who complain about them..............
Posted by: tonyb39
| January 1, 2009 3:11 PM
Happy New Year everyone.
May all your wishes come true...and oh be careful what you wish for.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker
| January 1, 2009 3:12 PM
houston is probably the second most important
the port of baton rouge to new Orleans the first
60 percent of all u.s. grain exports goes through NO
the ports were operating within a week after katrina
all the concern was about residential neighborhoods
that were built on swamp and marshland' and should
have never been developed in the first place
Posted by: mqw | January 1, 2009 3:13 PM
mqw -
Ike when it got to Rolla , Mo. :
Sept. 14th
" A RECORD RAINFALL OF 4.43 INCHES WAS SET AT VICHY-ROLLA MO TODAY.
THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 2.39 SET IN 1993."
-------------------------
Rolla is a long way from the beach.
Posted by: Colorado Bob | January 1, 2009 3:22 PM
XR------Happy New Year,,,what's up crabby?
Posted by: SolarCrete
| January 1, 2009 3:27 PM
Patsi
Thanks for the photo's,nice.Hope the New Year is finding you swell so far.I worked today but got done early.I'm still catching up reading here.I enjoy all your posts and the info you provide so much.I'm glad your such a strong woman and say what you feel.Like Hillary you don't let all the sexist slurs that are said to you by one person shut you up or make you quit on anything you believe.It all makes perfect sense to me now,you can't be beaten down and one person here doesn't like that..TOUGH...Your the best...
Posted by: tonyb39
| January 1, 2009 3:34 PM
The point remains q.
In 3 years we've seen 5 major category cyclones destroy the coastline from Galveston to New Orleans. The climate models were predicting this stuff for years, and we are witnessing it right in front of our eyes.
Posted by: Colorado Bob | January 1, 2009 3:42 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/obamabilia-big-busines-in-dc.html#comment-186099
No! I know a few gay guys like myself who have a fondness for classic disco and some who even like leather..Now Bitchy Queens...let me think...Yes
Posted by: tonyb39
| January 1, 2009 3:45 PM
It's just god working the kinks out of his next deluge......
Posted by: sturgeone | January 1, 2009 3:45 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/obamabilia-big-busines-in-dc.html#comment-186088
KEYWORD: UNINFORMED
Describes EuroTom to a T....
(Remember your ignorance about COLB and SoetorObama?)
Posted by: GORDO | January 1, 2009 4:24 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/obamabilia-big-busines-in-dc.html#comment-186043
Animal Control, Happy New year back atcha. Love that Rolling Stones song you linked. Hope to see you around here more. :)
.........
"I don't count on anything until all the contracts are signed,,,keeps one from too many disappointments."
Solar, I always think the same thing .... it ain't a done deal until it's a done deal. (I hate disappointments too), Side Saddle Sally :)
...........
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123051100709638419.html
Hey Tony, In the theory of the 'breakup of the U.S.' story that Carol linked, your and my state will be in the same section. We'll be under the influence of Mexico, which is not surprising, but... Ha. Ain't gonna happen...
Nothing to worry about Carol. :)
Posted by: chloe
| January 1, 2009 4:58 PM
," Side Saddle Sally" :)
Thats the trouble with this joint ----you whisper something to somebody,,,,and everyone hears it.
Tony--- Just want to say thanks Buddy (:-0))))))))
Posted by: SolarCrete
| January 1, 2009 5:10 PM
"and the sound of a train whistle in the distance."
for patsi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u5EbXxZra4
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpp5yoTS788&feature=related
Posted by: patd | January 1, 2009 5:11 PM
No whistle, but your links reminded me how much I like this song too pat.
City of New Orleans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piUWIqWSthA
Posted by: chloe
| January 1, 2009 5:17 PM
Gordo---Happy New Year----now I am not telling you what to do,,,but it is a new year---like Osh says Dang---just realized I just did some paper work and dated it 2008-------any way Gordo,,,a new year, calls for a new project for your tenacious ability's ----there are two on the table worthy of your talent---and C-bob has them both on Radar for you-----the first that he has in order that he presented them is---Lou Dobbs---yeah he has got to go,,,,the 2nd is what is the best way to get shore line construction in the areas mentioned above?????both are worth while don't you think---get it going and we all can help you,,,,but if want to stick with 2008 and get left behind---go head,,,thanks
Posted by: SolarCrete
| January 1, 2009 5:20 PM
jimmie rogers......waitin' for a train
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbzc77Tz6PA
Posted by: sturgeone | January 1, 2009 5:20 PM
Gordo
I want to tell you something-----I think that you are probably right on most of what you have said,,,,but so what ---the man is in the drivers seat now,,,,and if he wants to he can make all new paper work appear by magic,,,but u will know the diff-----hell I still don't think that we landed on the moon,,,,sometimes I do--- but who cares now----we have made it a fact ,,,,such is the power of manipulation,,thanks
Posted by: SolarCrete
| January 1, 2009 5:30 PM
I agree, Solar....we need to find Gordo a more useful obsession....
Posted by: Patsi
| January 1, 2009 5:35 PM
the train don't stop here anymore... gotta walk that lonesome valley by yourself
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-GN-BP_Qlk&feature=related
Posted by: patd | January 1, 2009 5:36 PM
Exactly What IS a Natural Born Citizen?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEnaAZrYqQI
Posted by: GORDO | January 1, 2009 5:39 PM
Thanks for the train songs....I used to looove to hop on a train for almost no reason. My dad finally told me that if he called the sorority house one more time and some girl told him she didn't know where I went, "just somewhere on the train"....he was gonna come down to that college and jerk me straight out of there....ha.
OSH-- remind you of any of your girls?
Posted by: Patsi
| January 1, 2009 5:39 PM
Curtis........pipple get ready, they's a train a'coming.......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQqTxK7VhSk
Posted by: sturgeone | January 1, 2009 5:41 PM
Patsi---yes we do----and I also want to take away one reason for the late night ridicule of him,,,that would make one less person to f---with,,,its getting old?
Posted by: SolarCrete
| January 1, 2009 5:42 PM
Waiting for a Train
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbzc77Tz6PA
Posted by: chloe
| January 1, 2009 5:46 PM
Gordo
My last try---I doesn't matter is he was born in Russia,.,or Germany,,,and his father was Hitler ---it is a fact he is President of the U. S,,,,,just like G W was elected by the S. Court---he will also,,,,it it a dead issue-even your boy at Quarterly doesn't say any diff.
Posted by: SolarCrete
| January 1, 2009 5:55 PM
Sweet Jeezus! I guess the lesson here is don't screw with female chefs shopping at Whole Foods!
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Woman_Makes_Mince_Meat_of_Carjacker_Bay_Area.html
Posted by: Patsi
| January 1, 2009 5:59 PM
Train - Drops Of Jupiter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS0CV_GWEMI
Ok, not a train, but by Train... a great song
tomorrow
Posted by: chloe
| January 1, 2009 6:00 PM
trains......brit style............
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS4xGx5mfIs&feature=related
Posted by: sturgeone | January 1, 2009 6:11 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/obamabilia-big-busines-in-dc.html#comment-186049
Hey Patsi
If you ever get the chance to meet Donna Summer,please tell her a big hello for me!! Oh and a big Thank you for putting out a wonderful new CD(Crayons) after a long absense..I love her and her birthday is today....
Posted by: tonyb39
| January 1, 2009 6:15 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/obamabilia-big-busines-in-dc.html#comment-186106
Oh, this is a big chuckle,never gonna happen is right......Florida under Mexico's control..Is the guy on something hallucinogenic or what?
Posted by: tonyb39
| January 1, 2009 6:18 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/obamabilia-big-busines-in-dc.html#comment-186112
Solar, Can't really call Gordo "tenacious" since he doesn't actually do anything but read the conspiracy sites and then regurgitate the contents here. They flush and the Gordo pipe empties in our little neck of the woods.
Posted by: Jamie
| January 1, 2009 6:20 PM
one of the greatest train songs ever sung by the guy that wrote it Steve Goodman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmcxsh2Pis8
Posted by: yo soy Horsedooty!
| January 1, 2009 6:24 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/obamabilia-big-busines-in-dc.html#comment-186107
Solar,oh and thank you for making me keep my feet off the coffee table,there on the ottoman,no really they are...HA HA..Let us no if you get the new job,i would love to here some good news about housing for a change...Buddy I like that,i kinda miss being called that.When i worked at GM we called friends that all the time.Maybe its a mid-western northern thing..Nice
Posted by: tonyb39
| January 1, 2009 6:26 PM
Sugar Pine Railroad at Fish Camp near Yosemite
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta6o1gMndyU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGyRkJwLASM
Posted by: Jamie
| January 1, 2009 6:29 PM
here is a memory of rural Texas in the 1950's near Waco.
Steve Fromholz is actually the Poet Laureate of Texas and his song Texas Trilogy is one of the best story songs in my opinion ever written.
enjoy,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDVpz-qEnPs
Posted by: yo soy Horsedooty!
| January 1, 2009 6:35 PM
If this were the Wild West I can envision some here as all for "lynching Gordo" just because he does not subscribe to the prevalent "group think" and by the way--until Obama has taken the Oath he is not President-according to "The Constitution" or maybe that doesn't count anymore in this "Hopey Dopey World of Change"
Let's hear it for FREE SPEACH
Posted by: Animal Control | January 1, 2009 6:35 PM
You guys and your train songs reminded me of one I listened to forever as a kid. My mother had it on either an album or 78, not sure which.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_aIQ1_sAVg
Rock Island Line, I didn't know what pig iron was, but I loved the fact that the engineer could fool the stationmaster so easily.
Posted by: EdVB
| January 1, 2009 6:41 PM
Georgetown Coloraydo.........scenic loop railway......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyhzq9ckkO8&feature=PlayList&p=78A84CDD20A77189&playnext=1&index=11
Posted by: sturgeone | January 1, 2009 6:42 PM
AC---u r absolutely right---just wanted to take away the bait he gives some others---is all----might need some solar passive help from you-,,,how is the weather where u r at?
Posted by: SolarCrete
| January 1, 2009 6:45 PM
Arlo version "Rock Island Line"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCIOMtV_Na0&feature=related
Posted by: sturgeone | January 1, 2009 6:48 PM
Solar
Went out to till the soil this morning and it was frozen.
Posted by: Animal Control | January 1, 2009 6:53 PM
Have a friend from childhood---Mike Croy----he only had one job in his whole life---working for Santa Fe Railroad,,,started as a switch man and worked his way to train master in Calif....one of he highest jobs in he country,,,,,,,started to buy model rail road cars,,,cabooses etc,,down town chicago at the age of 10-11 year old---he is one of the biggest collectors in of HO scale now-----travel all over the country for shows and club,,we were in the Marine Corps together,,,,,,,he would have loved all of this train music and talk----thanks for reminding me of a great freind.
AC---what state?
Posted by: SolarCrete
| January 1, 2009 6:58 PM
Obama Under Fire!
"PRESIDENT-elect Barack Obama is being hit by shocking charges - it's against the law for him to take office because he isn't a "natural-born" U.S. citizen! A stunning lawsuit by a former government official claims the 47-year-old politician was actually born in Kenya, which would disqualify him from office. GLOBE's Special Report rips the lid off the simmering controversy. It's must reading for every American!"
http://www.globemagazine.com/story/286
Posted by: GORDO | January 1, 2009 7:01 PM
"Dark was the night, Cold was the Ground"
Blind Willie Johnson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNj2BXW852g
Posted by: sturgeone | January 1, 2009 7:02 PM
"We do care about the Constitution, that's why it annoys us to see people like GORDO abusing free speech and abusing the legal process. "
Oh, please....Gordo is just a garden variety crackpot -- don't put him on a pedestal...
Posted by: Patsi
| January 1, 2009 7:05 PM
"Fromholz "
He's one of the best, Dooty....
Posted by: Patsi
| January 1, 2009 7:17 PM
My favorite song about a train:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X71LvIw548s
Posted by: Corey
| January 1, 2009 7:35 PM
corey....try this one.......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhdQyuN9ktE
just like the Trail Mix Midnight Special Express
Posted by: sturgeone | January 1, 2009 7:45 PM
a train by any other name would haul its freight......
Posted by: sturgeone | January 1, 2009 7:57 PM
Train to Nowhere
(B.Keith)
Standing on the platform
Staring down the track
I felt a shiver
When I heard that clickety-clack
Heard the cry of "All aboard"
The ancient whistle blow
I've been waiting here so long
I can't tell friend from foe
Posted by: chloe
| January 1, 2009 8:09 PM
I'll meet you down the line
I'm on the train to nowhere
And it's right on time
The conductor was a blind man
And it caused me some concern
When he handed me my ticket
For the point of no return
"You look a little worse for wear
I hate to call your bluff
But if you're going to ride this line
You must be made of sterner stuff"
I begged the brakeman, "Stop this train"
He said, "But what's the use?
You should know by now it's commonplace
For all hell to be breaking loose
Posted by: chloe
| January 1, 2009 8:14 PM
Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there.
Will Rogers
Posted by: sturgeone | January 1, 2009 8:14 PM
"Fromholz "
Patsi,
Steve had a stroke several years ago and has had to learn to play guitar again. One of the problems he has is that he cannot remember the words to Texas Trilogy any more.
Posted by: yo soy Horsedooty!
| January 1, 2009 8:16 PM
"Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. "
LOL
Posted by: chloe
| January 1, 2009 8:19 PM
Ah yes, I have that one on my iPod as well, Sturge.
Posted by: Corey
| January 1, 2009 8:29 PM
Don't forget Elvis rode a train too. At least in a movie:
Frankfort Special (G.I. Blues)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFFBtPjHIQw&feature=PlayList&p=0A8D2D2E22040598&playnext=1&index=28
Posted by: EdVB
| January 1, 2009 8:34 PM
Oh, man. I didn't know about Steve Fromholz' stroke, Dooty.
Posted by: Patsi
| January 1, 2009 8:57 PM
Yup, been about 5 or 6 years now since he had the stroke. He took about a 4 year vacation from work and did the recuperation thing. He is now back preforming again albeit a greatly reduced schedule. He is still leading river canoe trips in the Big Bend Nat Park and is also doing trail rides on horse back.
Funny story told after the stroke but before he was released from the hospital he was visited by country music legend Billy Joe Shaver. You may know that Billy Joe lost 2 fingers on his right hand as a young man in a logging accident. The story goes that when Billy Joe walked into the hospital room Fromholz looked up smiled as he held up his hand and said, "Billy Joe, gimme three!"
Posted by: yo soy Horsedooty!
| January 1, 2009 9:20 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/12/obamabilia-big-busines-in-dc.html#comment-186105
hahahahahah GOOFO... is that the best you can do?
I know you are, but what am I?
Posted by: EuroTom
| January 1, 2009 9:21 PM
Good evening all,
Patsi, it sure does!
Hey Gordo, Happy New Year! Surprised there is an article in the Globe magazine. Saw somewhere today that one media group named it the most under reported topic of the year. Can find the link if you would like. I admire you for very rarely reacting to the negative personal comments and sticking to your topic.
Posted by: oldseahag
| January 1, 2009 9:21 PM
Oh and one more thing GOOFO, of course I know what a birth certificate is. I did not known of the acronym COLB, but then there are many acronyms I had not previously heard. SoeterObama is just a phrase created by your fellow conspiracists (last 7 letters r-a-c--i-s-t-s) to further writhe and whine that Barack Obama won the election. Shame on you ! Shame on you and shame on the people who think you are somehow being a courageous participant on this blog. I do wonder how some people sleep at night.
Posted by: EuroTom
| January 1, 2009 9:27 PM
DON'Tt be tossing any shame on me ET, I'll have none of it. Gordo is questioning the whole issue as many others do, maybe not here on this blog, but it did make the Globe today. So obviously he is not alone. He has never said ANYTHING racist nor does he stoop to name calling those who mock him. This sort of bs attitude reminds me of the period of time after 9/11 when one couldn't question Bush without their patriotism being questioned. Don't question the great and mighty O, or maybe you'll be called a racist or even worse- a republican
Posted by: oldseahag
| January 1, 2009 9:36 PM
And I sleep just fine at night, except when I'm wondering what happened to my Party and just where the hell did the journalists go!
Posted by: oldseahag
| January 1, 2009 9:38 PM
You should know.
Posted by: chloe
| January 1, 2009 9:42 PM
:) God, I hate it when you're funny.
Posted by: chloe
| January 1, 2009 9:45 PM
Sea, Don't worry about all of this. Don't take it personally.
What's the use?
You should know by now it's commonplace
For all hell to be breaking loose
Posted by: chloe
| January 1, 2009 9:46 PM
And one more thing ET, I just looked at my first post- I didn't say anything much, but you got so mad that you're leaving because I greeted Gordo and told him that "I admire him for not rarely reacting to negative personal comments?! Kind of overreacting , don't you think? You ought to buck up.
Posted by: oldseahag
| January 1, 2009 9:51 PM
Sea,
Check your email when you get a chance. :)
Posted by: chloe
| January 1, 2009 10:24 PM
"And I sleep just fine at night, except when I'm wondering what happened to my Party and just where the hell did the journalists go!"
YOU GO GIRL
Happy New Year Oldseahag to you and yours.
Posted by: Animal Control | January 1, 2009 10:26 PM
Solar
I'm in DC
Posted by: Animal Control | January 1, 2009 10:29 PM
They have farms out there??thought they just grew,,,,Political critters,,lobbyist,,,and bad weed in general----just kidding Animal---luck.
Posted by: SolarCrete
| January 1, 2009 10:33 PM
Solar, yea that's right but the ***** is great fertilizer and we've got better weed than anyone. Happy New Year.
Posted by: Animal Control | January 1, 2009 10:37 PM
Rita,
Happy New Year back at ya.
Posted by: Animal Control | January 1, 2009 10:46 PM
Thank you Solar and Animal Control.
Posted by: oldseahag
| January 1, 2009 11:01 PM
"... of course I know what a birth certificate is. I did not known of the acronym COLB ..."
COLB is NOT a BC!
-------------------
"SoeterObama is just a phrase created by your fellow conspiracists (last 7 letters r-a-c--i-s-t-s) ... "
His LEGAL name (now) is unknown -- it's a combination of his two most likely legal names.
------------------
"... paranoid bullshit ..."
He admits to dual citizenship at birth -- therefore, he is NOT a "natural born" citizen.
This is from SoetorObama's own site:
“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children."
http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate
("That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.")
Posted by: GORDO | January 1, 2009 11:05 PM
Osh---welcome----like it when you get a little mad ----u start typing with a brogue :-))
Posted by: SolarCrete
| January 1, 2009 11:16 PM
Osh---you still mad-??---what do get when you have mirrors on your bedroom ceiling?----------------naked sky divers hahaha good night
Posted by: SolarCrete
| January 1, 2009 11:22 PM
Solar- Ha ha! And as for a brogue when I'm mad, never thought about it before, maybe some does slip out. Who can stay mad with friends like you around? Good night and wishing you a grand, prosperous and healthy new year to you.
Posted by: oldseahag
| January 1, 2009 11:27 PM
Hope everyone's holidays were fantastic, and that you have enough of something left to keep going - money, energy, sleep, food, whatever.
Thanks for the birthday wishes, too. I've always been one of those people who fared quite well having a birthday the day after Christmas. In the last ten years or so it has developed into a rave since people felt like still partying. I got gifts from people who weren't around on my sisters's birthdays. This year it was quiet, and it's a damn good thing.
For all of you who have been having trouble with typekey, I have to say comparing typekey to symantec is eye-opening. Symantec has it all over competition.
Tuesday I was told my auto-protect was OFF. I could not start it, so had to get symantec to call me between 11 and 12 pm - and that's when the fun started.
My contact was Russian, I think. The phone line was horrible. This was succeeded by another Russian. I stayed nice but cried, literally, and hung up. Mistakenly my contract was cancelled an hour later.
I convinced my self that my computer was vulnerable and all my money was probably stolen from my accounts - un-plugged my computer, and cried all night. No sleep till about 11 am the next day. I was figuring out how I could stand to live on my soc sec and pension, and no money as back-up.
I finally got it straightened out, after two days of talking with India. I didn't get nasty with anyone, but my god! It makes me claustrophic, trapped, when I can't move forward even a little. The whole thing qualifies as one of the most nightmarish times of my life.
I'm not really old or sick, but for the first time in my life I have had a little extra money and not had to drag myself to work. I had got used to getting decent sleep and feeling good - I could not stand to think of going out looking for another job which would probably be beyond un-rewarding.
Okay, so no more whining, and so far my money is still safe. But is there a computer safety org that has reps who really speak English???????
Fels good to be back talking with you guys and hearing you squabble.
Posted by: bethyboo
| January 1, 2009 11:30 PM
FYI - the Closer is back on January 26.
Posted by: bethyboo
| January 1, 2009 11:31 PM
"Billy Joe, gimme three!"
OMG! That's funny -- and Billy Joe's twisted kind of humor, too!
Posted by: Patsi
| January 2, 2009 1:37 AM
Don't think anyone has mentioned Senator Pell's passing. Pell Grants helped over 50 million people attend college. Quite a legacy.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0109/16985.html
Posted by: Patsi
| January 2, 2009 2:00 AM
what's going on ? ain't craig supposed to reset this thing ' and put out a topic worthy of discussion and debate. where is that old pumkinhead at. still writing that book' heck pat or newt could written two books by now. he's probably just been lounging on the sofa
eating sugar pops and watching old movies.
c'mon craig we're dying here
Posted by: mqw | January 2, 2009 5:44 AM
what seems to be the problem, mate?
Posted by: sturgeone | January 2, 2009 6:02 AM
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