Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

hello

Am I the first?

Yes, a cow. Why not? And since Pauline has been the only pet cow since Taft, what would be wrong with
JUST ONE MORE COW?
A cow simply trumps those ponies that little Caroline Kennedy let graze on the White House lawn. Remember those ponies?

I was just trying to find a Fred Small song called "If I were a Moose and You were a Cow"... it was about Jessica The Cow and a Moose in Vermont. It was such a sweet love story.

CNN/Time
Monday, Nov. 17, 1986

"Ah, the rites of autumn, when a young moose's fancy turns to thoughts of love. But one suitor is so smitten that he does not seem to mind that his intended is a Hereford cow named Jessica. The 700-lb. moose has been courting his bovine beloved at the farm of Larry Carrara in Shrewsbury, Vt. Undeterred by the amusement of some 4,000 onlookers, the moose has made several amorous advances, only to have the cow trundle away.

Not only is Jessica not interested, she has a white-faced bull friend by whom she has borne two calves. Says Carrara: "She is very good-looking." Even if she relented, the mating would not produce a hybrid moose-cow, since the animals' chromosomes do not match up. Time is running out as well for the lovelorn moose. The end of the mating season is at hand, and he is expected to drift back to his own kind."

Here is a link to a book about it...

http://www.amazon.com/Moose-Jessica-Pat-Wakefield/dp/0525443428

Jamie ---------------------

(From the previous thread.)

WRONG AGAIN !!!

"... the delusion that a child using a stepparent's surname destroys their individual rights as a U.S. Citizen and that Sen. Obama is really still Philippino or something."

We've played the "name game" several times before. You continue to not understand what this is about. What's his legal name? Has it been Barry Soetoro for 40+ years? He has been going by the name BHO since his teens.

Berg has been trying to get this:

Certified copies of any Court Orders or legal documents changing Obama’s name from Barry Soetoro to Barack Hussein Obama

This is the second time you've mentioned " Philippino". Let the first one pass - thought it must have been a typo. Guess it was not. You are as confused about the country as you were about Stanley Ann rushing back to HI to give birth to his half-sister (born in Indonesia).

From what I read, Taft was big enough himself to be a Cow...

Not a good idea. Cows shed pretty bad and the kid is allergic to dander. Cows can also be pretty fiesty. I know because I have been chased around a pen by an old toothless cow until I could get in a position to hurdle the fence. I mistakenly thought she would be the least threatening and I voluntered to get off the fence and push her though the gate. The regular cow hands got a good laugh about it. Never mess with an old cow.

Never mess with an old cow.

LOL That's what she said!

William Howard Taft, at 6 feet and weighing over 350 pounds (159 kg),was the heaviest US President. -He was given the nickname "Big Lub" because of his size -Taft's weight caused him to become stuck in the bathtub in the White House on several occasions, prompting the installation of a new bathtub capable of holding all of the men who installed it, something the White House denied until the bathtub was torn out years later.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/why-not-a-white-house-cow.html#comment-171392

I was being facetious. I know the country is Indonesia. What doesn't pierce your delusion is that nothing a parent or step parent can do while a child is a minor that destroys that child's citizenship rights.

She could have married a martian, and Obama would still be a US citizen until such time as he as an adult relinquished those rights.

Rez that comment about an "old cow"... best to let that one go !! - :-)

So GORDO, did you hear? We had an election last week. The repugs lost.; the democrats won. Do your parents let you sit in front of the computer all day unattended?

My Favorite Martian.. Wouldn't that mean that Barack would be America's first GREEN President?

Cows shed!?!?!? and here i was thinking cows would NOT be allergy agents. What are some safe pets then? maybe a goldfish

Was the Map Blue?

"The Washington Post has a county-by-county results map that looks a lot like the map from 2004, although there is clearly a little more blue this year and the red is a little lighter.

... but the big blue map published by New York Times seems like a way to overstate the magnitude of the Democratic victory — maybe just to give liberals a nice blue souvenir to hang on their office cubicles, or maybe a subliminal way of pushing the idea of a huge mandate for liberal government."

http://savagepolitics.com/?p=2430

Snakes

Spiders...

of course they'll need to run any prospective presidential pets past the GORDO Origins Verification Department -- don't want any sleeper cell animals on White House grounds

selecting your snake
http://www.petplace.com/reptiles/your-guide-to-selecting-a-snake/page1.aspx

GORDO, I don't mind that you are a REPUG, but I do mind that you lied about being a DEM and supporting Hillary. No DEM would be pissed off by blue locations on an election map. Duh...

Craig, we have to be sure there are no pets with "exotic" names. That's un-American.

ET,
:-), I wasn't really thinking so much about what Carol (ct)wrote, more about the old line, "That's what's she said". Old memories.

Jack -- If not hormones, how are they fattening hogs so much faster now than years earlier? Just by keeping them in small cages and feeding them more? My friend who works for Smithfield says that they fatten pigs three times as fast now as in the past.

Cows grow a fluffy coat in the winter and then they have to lose it in the summer. Lots of hair flying.

I meant don't mess with an old cow however you want to take that. Rosie will one day learn that.

To Craig: what do you think of Norman Ornstein's analysis of the Republicans?

OPINION
The GOP's deep hole
What Republicans need now is a leader and a message that resonate with minority and young voters.
By Norman Ornstein
November 9, 2008
Reporting from deep red South Carolina the day after the election, Anne Hull of the Washington Post wrote: "On the road, cars still had South Carolina license tags that said 'In God We Trust.' The utility pole on U.S. 29 was still tacked with the 'Jesus Saves' sign. ... The textile mills were still empty, and dogs still barked at the ends of their chains. ... But everything was different."

In so many respects -- culturally, ethnically, sociologically, internationally -- the election of Barack Obama has altered the landscape. It also has changed the political terrain, making the path for Republicans to return to majority status in the electorate daunting -- an uphill climb akin to scaling Mt. Everest. Without pitons.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-ornstein9-2008nov09,0,1847784.story

Centrist Republicans speak up
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20081108/NEWS01/811080327/1001/localnewsfront

Christy Todd Whitman
http://www.republican-leadership.com/

G Man,

This is another case of you not reading the source and just seeing what sites like SP wants you to see.
The SP piece completely omitted the part about the NYT showing:

"What the New York Times published this year is a map showing the shift in a county’s vote from 2004, not the results."

An entire paragraph was omitted on SP

I was thinking that the first pet could be an donkey, sometimes known as an ass. I know that there is no shortage of them.

Corey was right, as usual.

If they did get a cow, they could have it wear that dress Michelle wore onTuesday night!

ET -- I have little confidence in the "end of the GOP" type articles. Just a few years ago people were nearly attacked for questioning George W Bush. "W The President" stickers adorned SUVs in droves. The Dixie Chicks could be banned over merely making an offhanded remark.

What happened since that time is that we have a war that we obviously won't win (and never forget that Americans aren't so much anti-war as they are anti-losing a war), a huge debt and a failed economy. What happens depends on how the next four years go. Let's hope and pray they go well.

Probably make a comment about the White House needing a jackass.

Maybe Bri Bry can volunteer

Jamie -------------------

WRONG AGAIN !!!

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/why-not-a-white-house-cow.html#comment-171397

You still don't understand what this is about.
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From TD Blog:

Dual Citizenship Makes Obama Ineligible Under Article II

"He’s lied about Kenya, at least by omission, for months/years, so why should I assume he isn’t lying about Indonesia? Note Kenyan Citizenship automatically lapses if it isn’t renewed at age 21, Indonesian Citizenship doesn’t. If he was an Indonesian Citizen he would have to actively repudiate that Citizenship. Did he? Has he? Because if he hasn’t, Senator Obama is Dual National Indonesian at this moment, subject to the Laws of BOTH Countries, equally."

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/09/25/breaking-obama-admits-dual-citizenship/

Patsi, there used to be an old Army training film entitled something like, "The $15,000 Pencil"--supposedly if every person in the Army pinched a pencil, it would cost the taxpayer $15,000. That was when the Army was much larger than it is now. The moral of the story, leave the pencils and take the cash.

In any case they also made the point that hogs raised on G.I. mess hall scraps fattened three times faster than those raised on farm scraps. I suppose the moral there is, if you're a hog, you live longer on a country farm than a feed lot close to Ft Knox.

Actually, the film was on supply economy. It started out with a voice of doom recounting the parable about the loss of a nail from the king's steed ultimately costing the loss of the kingdom. I suppose the ultimate moral would be to use screws instead of nails.

Oh, well. I tried.

Chinchillas don't have dander, and I have an extra one that I rescued(I rescue rodents and sell or give them to my locally owned pet store) . D'ya s'pos they're into fancy rats?

I think Huckabee will emerge as the leadership of the Republicans who wish to interfere in ones life. I think Mitt is done.

Huckster will be dueling with the moderates for control of the goopers.

There could be a sea change in party affliation. The Democrats become more right as the disaffected moderate Republicans join the Democrats if the Huckster wins the Goopers.

The left of the Democratic Party could be most in flux.

Thomas Friedman said it well in today’s New York Times:

“Bush & Co. did not believe that government could be an instrument of the common good. They neutered their cabinet secretaries and appointed hacks to big jobs. For them, pursuit of the common good was all about pursuit of individual self-interest. Voters rebelled against that. But there was also a rebellion against a traditional Democratic version of the common good — that it is simply the sum of all interest groups clamoring for their share.”

What does this mean for the Republican Party? It means a serious re-think. Just as the conservative leaders are doing today somewhere in Virginia, fiscal conservatives and social centrists need to come together and decide if this is a party worth fighting for. What are the ideals that set us apart and have served us so well in the past? Can the principles we have stood for in the RLC reclaim the party, or do we just let the far right take the name and we go elsewhere? That's a stark assessment, but it is a question we are going to have to answer."

from the Whiteman site
social moderates and fiscal conservatives --the New Republicans. They should add competent.

I always thought that the Republicans wanted to lose this one. Who would want to try and clean up this mess and get left with blame if you can't. Kinda glad that " my girl" didn't get the job.

Rezdog----------------

The NYT's intention was to mislead people into thinking the Dem win was bigger than the actual win. Many just look at the map, they don't read the "fine print".

From the SP link:

" ... but the big blue map published by New York Times seems like a way to overstate the magnitude of the Democratic victory ..."

I Don't like Spiders and Snakes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lYdD9DdLNY

"I suppose the moral there is, if you're a hog, you live longer on a country farm than a feed lot close to Ft Knox."

Ha! True -- I emailed a guy I went to high school with -- he's a big time Kansas hog farmer. I'll see what he has to say, if he'll be honest with me. He once asked me to come visit him...and I said I couldn't because if he had thousands of hogs crammed into cages I'd have to kill him.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/why-not-a-white-house-cow.html#comment-171418

Corey, Michelle is a beautiful and stylish woman, but that dress was a definite misstep. It made you wish Mr. Blackwell hadn't died just days before she wore it. My first thought about that splash of red across her lap was just the sort of poor taste remark that he got away with once a year.

Who was the designer for Michelle's dress? Blame him/her. I am sure Barrack said yes, that looks nice honey. Maybe his first mistake?

Jamie, I read this interview that Jamie Lee Curtis gave last year. She talked about fashion. She said one year she wore a really expensive dress and lots of jewelry to the Academy Awards. She thought she looked great. At the ceremony after the awards her husband Christopher Guest asked her, "Do you know who the most beautiful woman here is tonight?" She thought he was going to say, "You!" But, he didn't. He pointed across the room to the actress Gloria Stuart from the movie "Titanic" and said, "She is." Jamie Lee looked her and said, "You're right." All Gloria Stuart was wearing was a simple dress and a necklace. She wasn't all glammed and glossied up like all the other actresses there.

This picture is what all good republicans did this weekend....

We will worry about recovery for the party later.

At least those from Orlando that drove the short ride to the coast !!

http://photoroe.smugmug.com/gallery/6507355_uLTXM/1/413424430_X6SgV#413424430_X6SgV

The TV I watched was not hi-def...Michelle's dress made her look like a Black Widow spider...it was hideous. I have seen high-resolution slide-shows of the Grant Park event since, and the dress seems fine. It was just on the TV I watched, the color patterns and the design itself appeared all distorted . I am sure the dress looked stunning to her when she selected it...it just looked bad on older TVs.

"mooooooooooooooooooooooooooo"

The dope smoking punk and the cud chewing cow,
Alike, but yet, different somehow
Oh yes, I see it now.
It's the intelligent look on the face of the cow.

That map is telling...most of the USA was changing...not winning those rural counties, but changing...and Obama promises change.
The map is absolutely stunning, a true indicator of the heart of the nation.
I am trying to forget and forgive my fellow voters for their enamor of Bush and their hatred and rejection of Kerry04...it's a New Day.

Brain - leave the Repugs out -
But many Republicans have shifted and join the Dem's. Taking over with centric views....
CHANGE
Here it comes.....
Cannot beat em, Join and take over

Mooooooooooo!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_EsxukdNXM

Oh God! I wouldn't give my worst enemy a chiuaua or however you spell it.Or were you just using that as an excuse to show us a picture of your buddies?

i'm thinking a weasel might be appropriate

malia and sasha were promised (in public before the whole world) a dog. perhaps we can compromise with a dogie, a stray or motherless calf.

but what about an all american, indigenous pet like a turkey? or better yet an armadillo? no allergy problem there.

possum on a half-shell. I like it.

Sing-a-long!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chrP2MukhIQ

I love You!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXo3NFqkaRM&feature=related

"possum on a half-shell. I like it."

Rosie -- You lived too long in East Tennessee! :)

guilty :)

Lord, I thoughtI was the only sucker dumb enough to cook for my dog.

sometime soon, I hope

I wish you all a great rest of the day... I am off to bed.. work comes early.

GO BLUE!

LOL! @ Sturge! My Aunt took care of our dog one weekend and she fed him chicken and other good things. We were worried he wouldn't wanna come back home. You know, for as grumpy a person as my Dad could be, he loved our dog to death. He was nicer to the dog than he was to his family.

Go Blue? Tom, I didn't know you were a Michigan fan! Cool!

You got muggers, I got grizzly bears.

FYI-grizzly bears are NOT afraid of dogs.

I always think of that movie "Escape from NY city" whenever I think of NY. I'm just a mid-sized city girl at heart.

The Obama list two hundred Shrub acts to reverse

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/08/AR2008110801856.html?hpid=topnews

http://www.newstin.com/tag/us/86731710
this link might work

a prairie dog! it's native to america! i know it's really a rodent, but if it barks like a dog and is cute like a dog, well it's close enough for government work.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prairie_dog

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/why-not-a-white-house-cow.html#comment-171436

Gracie Allen (George Burns' wife for the children here) had a rule before leaving her home. There was a mirror right by the door. She would stand with her back to the mirror and then quickly spin around to face the mirror. If the first thing she noticed was a piece of jewelry, she immediately removed it before exiting the house.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/why-not-a-white-house-cow.html#comment-171441

Rosie, If I didn't have four cats, I would take you up on the chinchilla. They really are sweet pets. A girlfriend of mine had one when I was a teenager.

American Bison!

And if you take care of them well(chinchillas) live to be more than 20 yrs old. They're the longest lived of the rodents

My landlord gets so annoyed with me sometimes, until I present him with a three legged rabbit, or a half-blind guinea pig, then he melts. He's a real good guy.

Patsi

In feeder calves growth hormone would get me about 10 - 12 % more growth for the calf, no where near 2 to 3 times.

It takes 51/2 months to fatten a hog to 200lb under good conditions. I've raised hogs for 15 years from highschool until I got smart and started to do something besides farming.
There is no way you can get a hog fattened in less than 3 months. which is what your friend is implying.

Jack

Patsi
your ham question, for a smoked cooked ham see what is locally produced. So much of pork is vertically intigrated that the small producer has to market locally. that way you get to talk to the farmer and the processor.

Jack

The big problem with hormones in dairy and beef is the passage on to human beings. How much early sexual maturation, obesity and other problems might be associated with these chemicals is being widely discussed.

We are the only animal that consumes milk past infancy. Cows milk was meant for baby cows not human beings.

KGC - Good article from Friedman. I've been saying since the primaries that both parties will have to re-align. They have wandered too far from their bases and have new elements that are pushing for recognition.

Moderate repubs and evangelical dems - remember Dean's chief of staff who said medicine didn't cure the woman of cancer, prayer did?

What I think it might mean is both parties becoming smaller, and more indies. The byzantine rules for nominating a candidate the dems thought up really shut out a lot of people. If dems want to discount people who have been loyal for years and sent them money, the message is clear - don't count on us to represent you.

With the repubs, it's even more obvious. We can see a lot more than we ever have before.

Jamie

As it is undetectable probably very little

Jack

I highly recommend My Year of Meats Ozeiki
this is a link to a discussion guide.
http://us.penguingroup.com/static/rguides/us/my_year_of_meats.html

It's fiction but has a great presention on hormones in beef. It really brings the point home.

jamie
let's not forget all the antibiotics given to animals
then ingested by humans producing drug-resistant
bacteria

Jack -- My friend said that hogs were in a 3-times-a-year cycle. So that would be about four months. But I see what you mean. Still haven't heard back from my hog farming friend.

Slate article on the business side of selling milk as a wholesome food

http://www.slate.com/id/2102639/

Jack, The human body these days is absolutely innundated with hormones, additives, chemicals, and metals. It probably isn't good for us, but exactly why this generation has a shorter life span that previous generations is still up for grabs.

Don't have your blood tested for stuff that isn't supposed to be there, it can get pretty scary.

The NYT map is being used to mislead people into believing there has been some huge shift to the left.

The final vote totals:

SoetorObama 52.6%

Against 47.4%

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/
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So, SoetorObama received just a little more than half the vote. This with everything in his favor: turmoil in financial markets, the GWB factor, massively outspending McCain, amazingly weak McCain campaign, MSM bias in favor of SoetorObama, his "hidden" past was hidden from the voters, etc.
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"The big blue map consumes the entire top half of the front page of the Times special election section of today’s paper. On pages P10 and P11, the Times has several more maps illustrating the election results, including a small county-by-county map that shows that, just like in 2004, most of the land mass of the U.S. is in “red” counties.

... the big blue map published by New York Times seems like a way to overstate the magnitude of the Democratic victory ... or maybe a subliminal way of pushing the idea of a huge mandate for liberal government."

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/rich-noyes/2008/11/06/new-york-times-election-map-shows-america-nearly-all-blue

G Man,

Now you've become a media critic! Psst, there's a liberal bias in the media, favoring Obama, in case you're wondering.

gordo makes a valid point
very good gordo

mqw

A couple of days ago I said that it wouldn't be long before the conservative brought out the county by county maps so that all the red splotches would look really big.

What they rarely mention is that the majority of that red is in very sparsely settled areas often very rural with low population. That means that you get a lot of red, but not a lot of people to go with it. Even with that, this year's map is much more blue that either the 2000 or 2004 map.

As to Obama ONLY getting 52% of the vote, that is Huge. I still remember coming in to work the morning after Nixon was elected to a boss whooping it up about the people electing Dick to which I replied, "Yep 42% of the people are sort of happy".

names of the "anons" who said this? A case of CYA?

Where was Bri's outrage over Huckabee, Romney, Brownbeck, et al -- oh, I forgot. They are, and have, dicks.

All these Republicans are now scrambling to cover their asses....the reason they lost is, in a word, Bush. But they dare not admit it.

ya'll have been telling gordo to get off that birth certificate obsession for months ' now he's talking about other things' thats a positive development

Don't worry about the New York Times, they'll close the Boston Globe first. But things ain't looking so good for the paper, could it be that it just doesn't live up to it's former glory?

http://finance.google.com/finance?client=news&q=NYT

Also poison to dogs includes grapes, raisons, onions, alcohol, chocolate, coffee,macadamia nuts. Wikipedia has a list and good links.

I have to watch my coffee because my little Maggie dog waits for me to leave a cup unattended and within reach and it is gone.

CT, NYC water is most likely the best municipal water in the world. After all they flooded large portions of upstate NY to supply water for the masses.

See this ink to know what was done to rural landowners and townspeople for the sake of the Big Apple.

http://bearsystems.com/cannonsville/cannonsville.html

ct...

For about $200, you can buy an under-sink reverse osmosis water filtration system. That's what I use for our drinking and cooking water. Eliminates the need to worry about the aluminum and other components used by most water systems to settle solids, etc. Reverse osmosis is the best water filtration system you can have.

Here is more about the lost towns of upstate New York. Many rural citizens have had to make huge sacrifices to support the urban masses.

http://bearsystems.com/losttowns/lost.html

The Republicans are a little slow about such things as the "working class". When people think of everything other than a roof over their heads and food as "luxuries" then the guys as the top suffer. We've had eight solid years of petting the plutocrats while punishing the plebians and now everybody gets to suffer until we get some balance back in the system.

"... a good case can be made that the vote yesterday was perhaps not quite the Democratic victory achieved by other presidents.

But a landslide mandate? No doubt they will claim as much and the press will aid them in crowing about it. But given all the advantages - including a lackluster candidate that a third of the country saw as too old to be president - shouldn't they have done a lot better?"

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/11/was_it_a_landslide.html

PUMA

Paranoid "Chicago"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGLyCN8EUvw

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/why-not-a-white-house-cow.html#comment-171530

Bowman, The same thing happed in the 20s with Los Angeles. Those millions of people live on land that is supposed to be a desert suitable only for cattle grazing on large ranchos with minimal people.

Instead the water barons first destroyed the Owens Valley then started ripping off the Colorado River. Now surrounding states are demanding their share of a limited resource. Let the water wars begin

Too many people and not enough liquid and a state too stupid to have even started water desalinization like any other self respecting desert near an ocean.

I used to think that distilled water was probably the safest water since things that call for distilled water can't have anything in it. I read that it was the safest if you can trust what you read. How can we really know unless you pay to have your own test done? That water sits in plastic for God knows how long.

Have you read that the reverse osmosis specifically removes drug contaminants?

Life Cycle of a Democracy...

Interesting stuff - equates this last election to end of the cycle....

Pondering....

It sure wouldn't be you.

Inside Looking Out 6-13-70 Part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nKmne3bBxk

Part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nKmne3bBxk

Video quality not too good.

Jamie,

New York State and California are completely different. NYS has abundant water supplies. Droughts are rare. This is really a case of urban populations exerting control over less populated (and less politically powerful) rural areas to exploit their resources.

Bowman

Resources are being exploited. It doesn't have to be for the same reasons to be the wrong thing to do.

bethy -- I loved that zombie quiz!

Well that gives you the street cred for Monticello. Those poor rubes upstate just couldn't survive without all the riches that you bestow upon them.

I took the zombie quiz.....it said I was zombie bait.......

the test is flawed.......lol

Zombie Bait! Oh, sturge, I doubt it....ROFL!

Red Album - In Need

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbW4YZFfl7w

This is not in response to anon-para's YouTube listing -- or actually any of them in particular, becaue most are just songs. But You Tube and other pop culture newbies are changing the country -- we are now in a YouTube, American Idol, reality television BS world. And THAT crowd is calling everyone else anti-intellectual....Pretty damned scary.

Shady Grove to video from Yellow Submarine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UT2VQeKZyHU

ct and bethy...

From Wikipedia..."Reverse osmosis: Mechanical pressure is applied to an impure solution to force pure water through a semi-permeable membrane. Reverse osmosis is theoretically the most thorough method of large scale water purification available, although perfect semi-permeable membranes are difficult to create. Unless membranes are well-maintained, algae and other life forms can colonize the membranes."

Here's the link if you'd like to read more about water filtration...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_purification

Just admit you're wrong and move on, Jamie. It'll be much easier.

Dex, thanks for that e-mail.

tt

Not altering the environment? Bullshit, flooding fifteen miles of valley is altering the environment. Cannonville Dam, Downsville Dam. Just because the is lower population density does not make it right. Same as other politically weak groups were exploited.

How about we breach the all the dams up there and let it revert to pre 1950 conditions. Then we'll see how well the metro NY area fares.

Fresh Air from closing of Fillmore in 1971.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EacQEhrbBQ

good musics anon-P

Who Do You Love.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Boz9JV5VsG8

sturgeone...

Unfortunately some of them are over 10 minutes and YouTube only gives you ten minutes.

Who Do You Love by Quicksilver Messenger Service was my first listen to them. I think they are a great band and pretty much wore this album out.

Now thinking about it I should have bought a second one as its priceless now. At least I think so.

Hey Bri Bri
where do you stand on the draining of Hetch Hetchy (the valley next to Yosemite)

Corey

I wasn't fighting so it isn't a problem. My whole stand on places such as NYC and LA is that there is nothing wrong with them that a good plague wouldn't cure.

In The Court of The Crimson King... Last one for tonight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4c5lY_5NNU

I have too say that I truly miss those days.

Dear Albany,

Please drain the upstate New York reservoirs so I can park my rusted Ford Pickup truck above water. As a real American, I want Albany to know that I am tired of sending pure upstate water to those evil urban sophisticates that drink it and then turn it into urine. It is just like them to take a pure American resource and use it to create a byproduct that is unsanitary and unamerican. And to promote an increase in agriculture, I am asking that the great State of New York exercise it's power of eminent domain and restore the island of Manhattan to is condition prior to 1492 so that we can restore substance farming to the original indigenous population. I further request that all current inhabitants of Manhattan be relocated to Ellis Island for processing to return to the homeland of there ancestors whom emigrated to this country.

Eminent domain. That's what they are using for the Bruce Ratner Atlantic Yards Project that Mayor Bloomberg has heartily endorsed. The neighborhood my cousin lives in would be torn down if this finally goes through. Eminent domain is easier to deal with if it doesn't effect you directly.

The Elks Club, you fool.

It was nice last weekend driving up North. For the most part there are still a lot of rural areas up north. Here, all undeveloped land gets developed quickly and subdivisions are built.

Don't worry about people wasting their prayers on you. They won't.

What does an elk say?

I know cows say "Moo"

Pigs say "Oink"

anonP......they were good days.......seasons in the sun

her shoes! ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

I think the saying goes: "Never judge a person until you've walked a mile in their shoes. Then, you're a mile away and you have their shoes."

With all the voter purges by the GOP, the voter intimidation and every thing else the GOP did to turn the people against Senator Obama he still won.

Maybe because God let him and saw him as being on God's side and not like the GOP who believed that God was on their side.

I believe that Lincoln said something to that effect IIRC.

"Obama Win Causes Obsessive Supporters To Realize How Empty Their Lives Are"

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/obama_win_causes_obsessive?utm_source=embedded_video

LOL

TT

ct,

reverse osmosis is excellent. I have had a system in my house for years. we use it for cooking & drinking water. It is an amazing improvement to the city supplied well water. Here is a link for info:

http://www.purewaterexpress.com/

Corey.....this is what an elk says:

You have heard the tolling of 11 strokes.

This is to remind you that with Elks, the hour of 11 has a tender significance.

Wherever Elks may roam, whatever their lot in life may be, when this hour tolls upon the dial of night, the great heart of Elkdom swells and throbs.

It is the golden hour of recollection, the homecoming of those who wander, the mystic roll call of those who will come no more.

Living or dead, an Elk is never forgotten, never forsaken.

Morning and noon may pass him by, the light of day sink heedlessly in the West, but ere the shadows of midnight shall fall, the chimes of memory will be pealing forth the friendly message,

"To our absent members."

tt.....thank you large sizes.......that was hilarious.......

Palin to be interviewed on NBC on Tuesday night. McCain to be on Leno on Tuesday night as well.

Ping has victory and Brain is to buy Ping Dinner !!

Truth, sparkling teeth and the American Way wins again !!!

And No Brain the wonderful cooking for your dogs is not the meal..... !!

TipToe - Great site !!

Try this one

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/first_openly_gay_racehorse_to

I liked Barbara Bush running aground off the coast of maine, too.......lol

"Great ending to Family Guy tonight"

Rosie
Your cue!

NIghts in White Satin '67

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9muzyOd4Lh8

Stairway to Heaven.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKg4g9zMeHI

Kashmir.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTaOvzZKRxA

Battle of Evermore.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHj_fZG8-lU

Ramble On.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssKtIni9adA

Gordo,

Mandate or not, the shift towards Democratic politics means a hell of lot at the State level, especially when the time comes to redraw the CDs after the 2010 Senseless.

From the Nat Cong state Leg.:

"And the result of elections over the last few cycles means that Democrats are now in control of sixty chambers (give or take one or two as final results come in), with sixteen "trifecta" states in which they control both chambers and the Governor's office."

Also, notwithstanding Prop 8, many right wing ballot initiatives were overwhelmingly defeated across the country, and a number of progressive initiatives were enacted into law.

btw, I'll begrudgingly have to agree with mqw about your shift on topics. lol

Spirit - Taurus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogTFdlbup24

The Onion is good!

Thanks y'all.

tt

List of songs stolen by Zeppelin:

http://www.warr.org/zep.html

I was disappointed when I found out myself.

From the Beginning.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nUId91rPF4

It would be nice if the GOP shifted Libertarian, although I won't hold my breath.

Which was first? That or Roundabout?

Lucky Man - Royal Albert Hall.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDiLOMP9MNE

Still You Turn Me On.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoxHGxQw9ws

Rezdog --------------

Berg was on the Bill Cunningham radio show tonight discussing the Birth Certificate issue. Believe another lawsuit will be filed tomorrow by someone else.

Why does SoetorObama continue to hide his original 1961 BC and related documents? Because he has to -- he is Constitutionally ineligible for POTUS.

SoetorObama and the DNC are trying to pull off the biggest hoax in US history.

What's wrong with Alaska? It's amazingly beautiful and awash in natural resources.

"SoetorObama and the DNC are trying to pull off the biggest hoax in US history."

sez you and your wingnut buddies. Lawyers making hay.

Takin' It To The Streets.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G54lfxiid_w

Jesus Is Just Alright With Me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2ClBlp9crA

Rockin' Down The Highway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J2O1Fg1IJU

Free Bird Live '77.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PENBU3lrpE

Rezdog -----------

You have no answer for this question:

Why doesn't he release his 61 BC and related documents? Just end all this.
--------------------
Answer:

Because releasing them would prove he is Constitutionally ineligible. (That's the short answer - hiding ineligibilty and/or other very damaging info. More later.) That's why !!!

Later,

The CNN 's got a good piece on our PE, Barack Hussein Obama.

Rezdog-------------

"Because he doesn't want to."

Correct. SoetorObama doesn't want to because he knows that he would face serious legal problems. Not POTUS. Not Senator. Inmate. Wonder what Federal prison?

Gordo,

I answered your question and you agreed. Thx

IFI knew the Mega Million numbers I 'd be rich. Woulda , coulda shoulda is all you you can say. Too bad for you and your buds. Prove all your lies.

I wouldn't vote for a guy named Josef Hitler Bonafarte.

I would Champ if he was up against John S. McCain.

Rezdog------------

So we agree - SoetorObama is Constitutionally ineligible for POTUS. And he's holding back the 61 BC and related documents because they prove the ineligibility.

Glad you have been convinced of his ineligibility.

what's the deal with the continuing palin bashing
by the media and the democrats'' both mcain
and palin stood up and said they lost fair and square
the people have spoken' we should get behind the
new president'
what more do democrats want ? or is about 2012
the democrats won '' they should act like winners
and show a little class' take a que from their leader'
winners don't have to be petty and spiteful

sociopath [(soh-see-uh-path, soh-shee-uh-path)]

Someone whose social behavior is extremely abnormal. Sociopaths are interested only in their personal needs and desires, without concern for the effects of their behavior on others. (Compare psychopath.)

Funny Gordo.

We agreed on the answer to the burning question you ask multiple times daily.

Gordo asked at 11:5: "Why doesn't he release his 61 BC and related documents?

Rezdog answered at 12:05 "Because he doesn't want to."

You agreed at 12:28: Rezdog---"Because he doesn't want to." Correct."

I've already told you Gordo, I guess you don't understand my comments very well. I don't give a damn where he's was born.

the democrats fixation on palin seems to come from
fear that she will be a threat in 2012''
they seem to have a problem with strong-willed
ambitious intelligent women 'which seems strange
since they are supposed to be all about women's rights and equality

mqw,
Are you precluding a Hillary Clinton prez campaign in the future?

Rezdog---------------------------------

12:28:

"SoetorObama doesn't want to because he knows that he would face serious legal problems. Not POTUS. Not Senator. Inmate. Wonder what Federal prison?"

Didn't include everything in your 1:11 post.
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"I don't give a damn where he's was born."

The Constitution cares where he was born.

-----------------------

There's more than the birth place. Do you remember what?

Gordo sed: "SoetorObama doesn't want to because he knows that he would face serious legal problems."

Sez you! "WOULD FACE." More conditional expressions. That's all you guys use.

The Constitution cares where he was born. ROFLMFAO

hillary's chance to be president has come and gone
democratic party has no up and coming
female to fill her shoes
and from the looks of things the obama administration
will be devoid of any women
maybe they will let mccaskill be secretary of the secretaries

Nite Gordo. Hasta luego.

Rezdog ---------------

Since we agree that he is Constitutionally ineligible for POTUS, just think of the massive fraud involved. SoetorObama knew he was not eligible before he started the run for POTUS. In addition, he has probably been using an illegal name (BHO) for about 30 years. Wonder how many years prison-time all that would bring him.

I don't understand how Alaska has run its government in the past if they need the price of oil to be $70-75 a barrel. Until this last fiasco, it hasn't been that high, has it?

Have they been running a deficit for that many years?

mqw - I haven't agreed with you on much, but your 1:11
post was spot on. I think that's one reason why, when I decided I couldn't register as a repub, I knew I couldn't go with the dems either. That was so long ago that I don't remember if any exact thing made up my mind, but I'm pretty sure it went along the lines of they're no better than the repubs.

I think I knew what the repubs believed in cuz they pretty much out and out said it, and I just felt the dems were better liars.

It's been said many times here that women have sabotaged women, and I do think there's some strength to that argument.

Flatus - I agree absolutely with you re KO, Hillary, and Greta. You're a wise man.

bb
yes' the democratic party has made sure there will be no
female president in my lifetime
and that makes me a little sad and disappointed
talk about the old boys network
unlike some people on here i like women
i like'm alot''

maybe they will let mccaskill be secretary of the secretaries

Posted by: mqw | November 10, 2008 1:32 AM

LOL....
That´s a good one mqw.... Think she will accept? hahahahhahh

I think all national leaders should be women. There would be fewer wars.

corey, pay no attention to sturge. elks bugle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VHxRoEE5bE

however, it's getting harder and harder these days to find a horn big enough.

the above post refers to corey's 8:47 and sturge's 9:02 answer.

" I think all national leaders should be women. There would be fewer wars."

champ, have you ever read the studies on the social problems occurring with an excess of males in mammal populations?
as spock would say, "fascinating"