Weekend Roundup

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  1. Good Morning All

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 12:05 PM

  2. Good morning, Jamie! And everyone!

    Posted by: harborwoman Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 12:13 PM

  3. The Cabinet Maker isn't up to date. I've got the following named so far if not officially announced.

    Cabinet Position Appointee

    State Hillary Clinton
    Treasury Tim Geithner
    Defense Robert Gates
    Attorney General Eric Holder
    Commerce Bill Richardson
    Health & Human Services Tom Daschle
    Homeland Security Janet Napolitano

    Then there are some of the West Wing appointees

    Press Secretary Robert Gibbs
    Communications Director Ellen Moran
    Deputy Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer
    Head of Economic Council in WH Larry Summers
    Chair of Economic Advisors Christina Romer
    Dir. Domestic Policy Counsel Melody Barnes
    National Security Advisor Jim Jones
    Office of Management & Budget Peter Orszag
    Asst. OMB Robert Nabors

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 12:14 PM

  4. Thought for the day :
    " Losing weight: the triumph of mind over platter. "

    Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 29, 2008 12:29 PM

  5. 1929 Lt Cmdr Richard E Byrd sends "My calculations indicate that we have reached the vicinity of the South Pole" (He was wrong)

    Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 29, 2008 12:32 PM

  6. I'm sure the title of this is wrong, since most everyone here is so well informed, but..

    10 Things You Didn't Know About Janet Napolitano
    http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/politics/2008/11/24/10-facts-about-janet-napolitano.html

    Posted by: chloe Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 12:32 PM

  7. 1952 President-elect Eisenhower visits Korea to assess the war

    Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 29, 2008 12:34 PM

  8. MSN just reported that India is making noise about using the 'Bush Doctrine' as a pressident to invade Pakistan. Good ol' Bush, he just keeps giving, and giving and giving.

    Posted by: rosiethecat Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 12:45 PM

  9. Western governors to Obama: Act quickly on energy

    Western governors urge Obama to quickly adopt national energy policy, reduce greenhouse gases

    http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/11/western_governors_to_obama_act.php

    Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 29, 2008 12:46 PM

  10. The Utah Mining Association said that at first glance, it is supportive of WGA's efforts to focus on a national energy plan that reduces greenhouse gases.

    "But as you know, the devil is in the details in how you get there," president David Litvin said. "In this country right now we have a big push for renewables and many people think we can just move off our traditional sources of energy supply, but over 50 percent of our electricity comes from coal. Renewables only count for 2 percent of electricity produced. You can't move from 2 percent to 50 percent overnight."

    -----------------------------
    Nobody, I mean nobody ................... is calling for this to happen overnight. What people are calling for, is for it to start, and for it to start now.

    Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 29, 2008 12:52 PM

  11. "What people are calling for, is for it to start, and for it to start now."

    Exactly.

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 12:56 PM

  12. Bush just referred to the United States as "The world's oldest democracy". He may have been off by a thousand years or so.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/notesandqueries/query/0,,-80426,00.html

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 12:58 PM

  13. If it ain't American, then it don't count.

    Posted by: rosiethecat Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 1:01 PM

  14. http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/weekend-roundup-1.html#comment-177833

    Cbob. Re the Horsey cartoon. It's a shame Obama can't make the dummy in his lap do the right things.

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 1:02 PM

  15. Lots of left over parties around here...

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 1:27 PM

  16. SOFIA, Bulgaria -- A well-preserved ancient wooden dugout canoe has been discovered at the bottom of the Black Sea, scientists said Saturday.

    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1103ap_eu_bulgaria_ancient_boat.html
    ----------------------

    One of the great discoveries in archaeology in the last 25 years , has been the realization that the Black Sea, with it's anaerobic bottom - preserves ships . What will be found on the bottom of the Black Sea in the future will boggle the mind.

    Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 29, 2008 1:29 PM

  17. Whale wars -

    The whaling fleet left Japan earlier this month and is expected to focus its hunt for about 1,000 whales in the Ross Sea, where New Zealand is responsible for search-and-rescue missions under international law. Animal rights group Sea Shepherd has vowed to disrupt the hunt.

    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1106ap_as_antarctica_whaling.html

    Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 29, 2008 1:35 PM

  18. One of the Discovery Channels has done a show about that CB.

    Posted by: BrianInNYC Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 1:37 PM

  19. Our family was watching whale wars just two days ago. I'm rooting for the whales.

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 1:46 PM

  20. Jamie,

    My favorite thing about whales is that they got fed up with the hassle of being land mammals and finally said: "Screw this! Let's get back in the water!"

    Maybe humans should follow that example.

    Posted by: LardassLiberal Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 1:58 PM

  21. LL

    That was a great idea for lots of years, but now we have not only caught up with them and trashed their homestead but turned into serial killers as well.

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 2:03 PM

  22. I've tried watching that myself, but watching the volunteers on the Sea Shepard boat ....... I'd be hard pressed to put to sea with those folks.
    Running around the Southern Ocean with well meaning volunteers, would scare me more than the Japanese whalers.

    Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 29, 2008 2:05 PM

  23. Unfortunately torpedoing the Japanese whalers would probably cause an international incident of some size.
    Shame doesn't work well on them.

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 2:09 PM

  24. Michael Milken looking for a pardon. Remember him?
    http://www.adn.com/nation/story/604681.html

    Posted by: rosiethecat Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 2:11 PM

  25. Rupert and Roger despise Bill O’Reilly ..........

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/1108/Wolff_Murdoch_absolutely_despises_OReilly_.html

    ----------------
    Let's all turn in our hymnals to page 143 and sing Kumbaya. This is truly the first sign of the world coming together in a common purpose. That one day soon we can all join hands, and move forward in the common knowledge that, we all despise Bill O’Reilly.

    Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 29, 2008 2:24 PM

  26. "Honk if you despise Bill O'Reilly"

    Posted by: sturgeone | November 29, 2008 2:26 PM

  27. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBT3oDMCWpI

    you guys down in front, don't applaud.....just rattle your jewelry......

    --john lennon

    Posted by: sturgeone | November 29, 2008 2:32 PM

  28. Do you suppose they'd have been allowed in that club if they weren't the act?

    Posted by: rosiethecat Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 2:34 PM

  29. obviously they were running low on band names......

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIEBErVs0fY&feature=related

    but good taste in song material.........

    Posted by: sturgeone | November 29, 2008 2:35 PM

  30. as we danced close together long into the night, and every breath was a long and drawn out hallelujah......

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhfNJASU7NM

    Posted by: sturgeone | November 29, 2008 2:39 PM

  31. Oh no, sturg, no body does 'You belong to me' like Patti Page.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvlT61Hs_Kc

    Posted by: rosiethecat Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 2:41 PM

  32. Robert Thomas Veline doing the music he didn't like even if it made him famous

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBxo8V6R0tc

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 2:42 PM

  33. Do Wap a do -

    Dion & Belmonts-The Wanderer

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbRHnPTkNZc

    Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 29, 2008 2:44 PM

  34. In Contention : Jo Stafford

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H1Imb6jm0U

    Posted by: sturgeone | November 29, 2008 2:47 PM

  35. Jamie- a different 'Bobby V.'
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh1dAgoa3Bc
    Sturg-I love Jo Stafford I tried finding her doing 'paper moon' but it was a no go.

    Posted by: rosiethecat Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 2:56 PM

  36. "..............and the whale said to Jonah: 'Ain't no little bitty nothing like you.....gonna hip ME, the King of the Dip.....as to what the LICK is.......' "

    ---Lord Buckley

    Posted by: sturgeone | November 29, 2008 2:58 PM

  37. From the separation of church and state file -

    Hundreds of people are reported to have been killed in central Nigeria after Christians and Muslims clashed over the result of a local election.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7756695.stm

    Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 29, 2008 3:04 PM

  38. Best Headline -

    10 things fungi have done for us

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7754338.stm

    ------------------------------
    Listen up all you fungi haters.

    Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 29, 2008 3:10 PM

  39. the winner of the election, Mr Mbushi, was quoted as saying, "We did not steal the election.....those votes was counted fairsome and squarish......"

    Posted by: sturgeone | November 29, 2008 3:10 PM

  40. From the fungi article:
    9. LSD, a drug, but not for medicinal purposes, was originally isolated from Claviceps purpurea in the 1940s by Albert Hofmann, a chemist with a particular interest in hallucinogenic fungi. He was also the first to isolate psilocybin from magic mushrooms.

    What?? Not for medicinal purposes??
    NOW they tell me................

    Posted by: sturgeone | November 29, 2008 3:17 PM

  41. New thread on The BackChannel Blog

    Mumbai - BrianInNYC

    http://clistersbackchannel.wordpress.com/

    Posted by: BrianInNYC Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 4:28 PM

  42. Spectacular Sky Scene Monday Evening

    A slender crescent moon, just 15-percent illuminated, will appear in very close proximity to the two brightest planets in our sky, Venus and Jupiter.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20081128/sc_space/spectacularskyscenemondayevening;_ylt=AhkrRaaITT0GTcPQAR6S3Qys0NUE

    Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 29, 2008 4:30 PM

  43. Just a heads up....from Odetta's manager:

    Dear Friends of Odetta,

    On behalf of Odetta's adopted daughter Michelle Esrick and her niece Jan Ford (in California), I would like to share with you - Odetta's large extended family of brothers and sisters - the current health crisis in her life. On Saturday, she went into Lenox Hill Hospital for a check-up and IV nourishment. However, on Sunday evening she went into kidney failure, and we were told that the next 24 hours would determine if she would survive.

    Miraculously, she made it through that emergency, but is still listed in critical condition. I was on the road when she went in the hospital and rushed back on Sunday. Jan and I are thankful that Michelle was here and has been by Odetta's side every moment of this ordeal.

    Odetta believes she is going to sing at Obama's Inauguration, and I believe that is the reason she is still alive. She has a big poster of Barack Obama taped on the wall across from her bed. Her old heart has already outperformed and lasted far beyond the expectations of the heart specialists who treated her in January-March 2007 when she had her last health crisis while touring out West. Now compounded with the kidney failure, the doctors at the hospital are trying to do everything possible to stabilize her system and prevent the weakening of her other organs. They have her on dialysis now to rid the body of the toxic poisons that have built up, and it seems to be slowly working. She is sleeping a lot, but after a dialysis treatment and some food, she is coherent and talking. She is not in pain. We are told that she will be in the ICU Unit for at least another week, and that we'll just have to wait and see after that.

    All of you are well aware of Odetta's indomitable spirit. Accordingly, I wouldn't bet against her singing for Barack in January!

    If you would like to send a card, I know that she would love to hear from you (address of the hospital is below).

    Ms. Odetta Gordon
    Room # 719, 7th Floor ICU Unit
    LENOX HILL HOSPITAL
    100 East 77th Street
    New York, NY 10021

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 4:32 PM


  44. Chole-----from last thread--glad u liked the

    Very cool picture of the expanding universe---there is the energy that you and Patsi talk about----if you want to right click on it, and set up as background---it will enlarge and you can see at the very start of it all------Quantum fluctuations, and inflation----the first time that i saw this is exactly how i felt-----stared at it for a little while, and said ---cool, forgot to say very but i even felt it-----back and forth today as usual ---

    Tomorrow the History channel will have a totally new series on called Universe for 2008 starting at 12 pm central---gonna tape it and watch later on-----see u later

    Posted by: SolarCrete Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 4:52 PM

  45. "A slender crescent moon..."

    c-bob, is it just my imagination or have most of the larger and more coordinated acts of terrorism since and including 911 been carried out during cresent moons? has anyone noticed the sprectacular skies at those times?

    'course most nights there are such skies.

    Posted by: patd | November 29, 2008 6:16 PM

  46. people act goofy in clubs during a full moon.....I always wonder if it's just cause they think they sposed to act goofy or the moon is doing something to them or the extra light lends to mischief.........

    Posted by: sturgeone | November 29, 2008 6:56 PM

  47. just the last time for instance I was attempting to work my way between these two roughnecks arguing and gesturing in the doorway......One of them grabs me and says, "Hey, settle this........is that the SUN? or the MOON?"
    I said, "Shit man, I'm not from this neighborhood........."

    --Townes van Zandt

    Posted by: sturgeone | November 29, 2008 7:14 PM

  48. snowin' on raton..................townes

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxJtolhinKk

    Posted by: sturgeone | November 29, 2008 7:21 PM

  49. ""few prodigies have been found in fields like writing, painting, sculpture -- different set of skills and brain cells than those involving mathematics and music. ""

    Patsi 8:53

    Patsi - I couldn't agree with you more. That is the basis for my belief that music IS life and life IS music.
    Movement and rhythm and meter and sound and emotion and harmony and dissonance - our bodies, all bodies are musical instruments. Oceans and waves and rivers have sound and rhythm - trees have rhythm which can be heard. Wind and storms - they have rhythm. They are put together with math.

    You can remember a beautiful painting and can quote magnificent words, but you can enjoy music anytime anywhere just by singing yourself - it is your body.

    I watch our crazy two year-old as he will start dancing and bopping around to no music we hear. It's in him.

    That's why I feel that musicians are the most valuable and indispensable people on the planet. They give to the future simply by creating possibilities for other geniuses - look at the genius of Horowitz and Perlman we have thanks to Mozart and Beethoven, just to name a few of the thousands and tens of thousands we haven't heard.

    Of course, it stands to reason, doesn't it, that our schools have had to cut out music classes because people don't want to be taxed too much. They can't kill music, tho, because music is part of us all.

    I think maybe I've gone off on this tangent before - sorry if you've gotten it twice.

    Posted by: bethyboo Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 7:26 PM

  50. "Moo-jicians is brain damaged."

    ---Archie Granbery, owner of Ollie's Round-up in Denver, paraphrasing Bill Cosby

    Posted by: sturgeone | November 29, 2008 7:29 PM

  51. Well, they are different, that's for sure. I've been know to say they are crazy, but in a nice way.

    Posted by: bethyboo Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 7:36 PM

  52. it taps an ancient chord............

    Posted by: sturgeone | November 29, 2008 7:40 PM

  53. http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/weekend-roundup-1.html#comment-177877

    Unfortunately, when you cut music your math scores drop as too many of the "back to basics" crowd have found out too late to help the children whose brains they crippled by not giving them rhythm that they all feel in their heartbeats.

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 7:42 PM

  54. the ancient chord would be that breed of innkeepers who take it for granted that musicians are brain damaged..........it's not an outrageous assumption at a certain level of musicianville, usa........

    Posted by: sturgeone | November 29, 2008 7:43 PM

  55. everyone should learn the "sturgeone walk-beat" method of song writing......most songs rhythmns can be best illiustrated by a brisk walk.....

    Posted by: sturgeone | November 29, 2008 7:46 PM

  56. Ornate Coleman used to give me a fit trying to put it into walkbeat but I'm sure that even sisyphus loved the challenge of his work................

    Posted by: sturgeone | November 29, 2008 7:47 PM

  57. Sturgeone

    That Bill Cosby "Children are brain damaged" routine is one of the most hilarious things I have ever heard.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ysFvUizRj8

    Around here we have been known to call out, "Let The Beatings Begin!!"

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 7:47 PM

  58. Jamie.....while my wife was preparing to give birth as we lived in the EverGreen Motel in Aurora (Indoor Heated Pool....Korean Owned, HBO and cable, on Colfax east.....)......we were treated thru the freakishness of time and space to the television spectacle of that bill cosby stand-up video......his impression of the doctor "sitting down there like johnny bench" came to me as i was witnessing my daughter's birth and I began laughing......the nurses and everyone gave me very foul looks and I quickly regained my composure and the event proceeded.......but for some reason me and archie, the clubowner, sat around later and saw the same video and he went around after saying that at every available.......along with his "moo-jicians is like chickens in a barnyard theory.
    Me and him sat around a lot, mostly in the mornings over coffee as the phones rang.........

    Posted by: sturgeone | November 29, 2008 7:56 PM

  59. I'ma tell ya......."very foul looks" doesn't begin to express the nature of the eyes on me at my outburst of laughter during the course of this, my lady's ordeal......and remember, they were wearing masks.....nothing but eyes......very serrrrrrrrious eyes.....

    sturgeone went fish-like and displayed a calm demeanor....................surely an explanation of bill cosby's routine and how it applied to the present situation would only be viewed as an encumbrance and possibly a totally un-necessary diversion from the sacred nature of the ancient ritual taking place before our very eyes........

    Posted by: sturgeone | November 29, 2008 8:18 PM

  60. Every one is talking a lot about music-----i thought that you might find this interesting ---sorry if you don't

    Music------is a vibration that we touch (hear) ---- the physical world is basically vibration

    Although sounds of high vibration seem to be continuous, to be pure sound, they are not---every sound is actually sound/silence, only the ear does not register this consciously when the alternation is too rapid---it appears only in the lowest audible notes of an-organ.

    Light too---- is not pure light, but light/darkness,,,,(BRIAN YOU GOT THIS ONE WRONG TOO) Light pulsates in waves, with their essential up/down motion, and in some conditions the speed of light vibrations can be synchronizes with other moving objects so that the latter appear to be still. This is why arc lights are not used in sawmills, for they emit light at a pulse which easily synchronizes with the speed of a buzz saw in such a way that its' teeth seem to be still

    While eyes and ears actually register and responds to both the up-beat and the down-beat of these vibrations, the mind, that is to say our conscious attention, notices only the up-beat. The dark , silent, or ---off-- interval is ignored,,It is almost a general principle that consciousness ignores intervals,, and yet cannot notice any pulse of energy without them.

    Most people imagine that in listening to music they hear simply a succession of tones, singly, or in clusters called chords----If that were true as it is in the exceptional cases of tone-deaf people, they would hear no music, no melody whatsoever---only a succession of noises. Hearing melody is hearing the intervals between the tones, even tough you may not realize it, and even though these particular intervals are not periods of silence but---steps of varying length between points on the musical scale. These steps or interval are auditory spaces, as distinct from distance-spaces between bodies or time-spaces between events.

    Posted by: SolarCrete Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 8:25 PM


  61. Sturg sorry i interrupted you----great story

    Posted by: SolarCrete Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 8:30 PM

  62. if you go way, way back in the history of moo-jicians an interesting moment was when the original moo-jician, the Drummer, suddenly found he had to share the stage with a stringed instrument..........the interactive aspect was intriguing as the drummer possessed CLUBS while the stringed instrument involved PROJECTILES...........

    Posted by: sturgeone | November 29, 2008 8:34 PM

  63. I cannot abide the thought that I caused you to feel that you interrupted me......that could not be.
    lol

    Posted by: sturgeone | November 29, 2008 8:36 PM


  64. Don'tlike key pad

    I had lost that twice ---and did not want to loose it again,,,i hit the submit button---without looking to see if anyone was in the middle of a conversation---again sorry Sturg-----

    Posted by: SolarCrete Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 8:38 PM

  65. I must now examine the wine..........and the done-ness of the burnt beast sacrifice to zeus.......

    I must admit.

    Posted by: sturgeone | November 29, 2008 8:39 PM

  66. Solar I certainly don't need you to explain the duality of light to me, Albert explained it to the world a long time ago. Light does not "pulsate in waves" go back and read again.

    Posted by: BrianInNYC Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 8:47 PM


  67. Brian---i will admit when i am wrong----i stand corrected about lights pulsating as waves

    Posted by: SolarCrete Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 9:03 PM

  68. I'm sure that happens a lot in your brand of "voodoo - physics".

    Posted by: BrianInNYC Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 9:09 PM

  69. The universe is fascinating enough, it doesn't need to be embellished with myths, new age or old age.

    Posted by: BrianInNYC Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 9:10 PM

  70. Brian,

    SolarCrete was a gentleman about your correction. Try it.

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 9:13 PM


  71. Brian-----piss off

    ---that is two mistakes i have made with you this week---one is trying to be civil to you----the other is to admit a mistake to you--don't comment on my post it you disagree ----it won't do any good----i won't take the time to answer--

    Posted by: SolarCrete Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 9:22 PM

  72. Think of it as the challenge of a new experience to bring pleasure to others.

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 9:23 PM

  73. Such is the risk you take by going out of your way to get my attention, a word of advice, make sure your facts are correct if you want to be smug.

    Posted by: BrianInNYC Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 9:28 PM

  74. Colorado Bob

    You may want to add this web cam to your collection

    Starting tomorrow you can watch Maeshowe in Orkney

    http://www.maeshowe.co.uk/

    At the Winter Solstice you will see the sunrise just as the ancient Vikings did. Be sure to allow for the time difference between here and Europe.

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 9:34 PM

  75. I'm gonna look for that moon thing monday night........

    Posted by: sturgeone | November 29, 2008 9:46 PM

  76. I'm going to be Look Moonwatcher........

    Posted by: sturgeone | November 29, 2008 9:55 PM

  77. "make sure your facts are correct if you want to be smug. "

    ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Speaking of a factually-challenged maroon whose smugness pulsates in waves....

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 10:06 PM

  78. Prinicpal Vernon to Bender (Judd Nelson's character in The Breakfast Club):

    "Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns."

    Posted by: Corey Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 10:18 PM

  79. "Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns."

    Ah yes, and His SmugnessIn NYC might remember the words of my father: "If you want to run with the big dogs you better be able to piss in the tall grass."

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 10:21 PM

  80. Quick conversation between Emilio Estevez and Judd Nelson in The Breafast Club:

    Andrew: Why you have to insult everybody?

    Bender: I'm just being honest, assh-le. I would expect you to know the difference.

    Posted by: Corey Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 10:26 PM


  81. I have on the D.L Hughley show--re run----i hate to admit it ---kinda like it-

    Posted by: SolarCrete Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 10:27 PM

  82. http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/weekend-roundup-1.html#comment-177903

    Solar
    You haven't made a mistake at all,your a gentleman as Jamie said!! I read in one of your posts earlier about you making some friends here,you sure have and please count me as one!

    Posted by: tonyb39 Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 10:27 PM


  83. Tony-----thanks-----you going to get in a little extra exercise to work off the Thanks giving treats-----i over did it with too much white chocolate cake------gonna go get a slice now

    Posted by: SolarCrete Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 10:31 PM

  84. el sho-biz ultima.......la corrida de toros........you know if the opra singer doesnt hit middle C or something he may get chastised in print or among his peers but if the Matador "misses middle C" he gets a cornada......ie the horn inserted into a newly created orifice in el matador's corpus.....a hole in Juan, as it were.......that's a TOUGH ACT

    Posted by: sturgeone | November 29, 2008 10:34 PM

  85. http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/weekend-roundup-1.html#comment-177916
    Solar
    Yes, I did earlier today! I did an hour on the stair stepper and some Nautilus weight machines. I also worked on my uncles pool,it was bad,I had to manually vacuum and brush it.Oh boy...

    Posted by: tonyb39 Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 10:36 PM

  86. water seeks it's own level.

    Posted by: BrianInNYC Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 10:36 PM

  87. "water seeks it's own level."

    Wow -- did you just come up with this rapier witted quip?

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 10:40 PM

  88. CHICAGO (Nov. 29) - Even though employees at the Peer Bearing Co. no longer work for the Spungen family that recently sold the Waukegan-based ball bearings maker, they still received a turkey each this Thanksgiving in keeping with tradition.

    But even better was the gift that came in mid-September, when the Spungens threw a party to celebrate the company's acquisition by a Swedish company.

    They gave away $6.6 million in year-end bonuses to Peer's 230 employees, decided by a formula based on each worker's years of service.

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 10:42 PM

  89. Tony -- you remain one of the most positive forces on the blog -- thanks for that!

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 10:54 PM

  90. Well as much fun as this is, it's time to walk the chia pets. I crazy glued little wheels to their terracotta feet. People stop and stare, they don't bother me (name that tune).

    Posted by: BrianInNYC Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 10:55 PM

  91. Solar and Chloe -- found the Zebra!!!!

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 11:00 PM


  92. Patsi---i did not know that those toys were that hard to get----my guy said that ---some came in but were sold already-----glad that you have them-

    Posted by: SolarCrete Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 11:04 PM

  93. "water seeks it's own level"

    And when big dawgs is a pissin in the tall grass, the water should do well to remember that.

    Patsi, the" Pissing in the tall grass" can only be appreciated by someones who has driven the plains.


    Jack

    Posted by: whskyjack Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 11:04 PM

  94. http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/weekend-roundup-1.html#comment-177923
    Patsi
    Thanks! I really enjoy it here.I get to hob knob with some of the best and brightest such as yourself and Jamie,Chloe,Solar,Bethy and many other great folks.I continually learn something and that's always good.TM lifts me up when I'm down,I had a really terrible week,my mom's dog Pepper who was 16 drown in my pool!! I let him in from the yard and turned my back away from the pool and was taking the hot tub cover off and turned back around to the pool and there Pepper was at the bottom! I jumped in and got him up on the pool deck and applied CPR,I got him back breathing and alert and coughing up water but his breathing wasn't so good,so I took him to an emergency clinic, where he spent the night ,when I picked him up the next morning to take him to his vet. he was much worse.I got him to his vet., but after a few hours the vet. called with the sad news Pepper had died! I am so sad,that was my last connection to my mom....Pepper had a fine life, but i feel bad ,it all happened in less than a minute...Oh Shit...

    Posted by: tonyb39 Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 11:24 PM

  95. Brian

    Someone pulling chia pets on rollar skates and humming. The song has to be "On The STreet Where You Live"

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | November 29, 2008 11:26 PM

  96. Tony,

    I am so sad to read your news about Pepper. What a tragic accident. I know how responsible you must feel, but it could have happened to anyone. My sympathies on your loss.

    Posted by: Ivy Green Author Profile Page | November 30, 2008 12:10 AM

  97. Bill Clinton to Name Donors as Part of Obama Deal

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/30/washington/30clinton.html?_r=1&hp

    Another blow to PUMA! Obama says "jump", and the Clintons say "how high?"

    Posted by: BrianInNYC Author Profile Page | November 30, 2008 1:21 AM

  98. Posted by: rosiethecat Author Profile Page | November 30, 2008 1:31 AM

  99. Brian-you probably remember Michael Milken. He's looking for a pardon from Bush. What do you reckon?

    Posted by: rosiethecat Author Profile Page | November 30, 2008 1:44 AM

  100. Tony, you poor guy! What a horrible story but you know you gave the little guy a very nice life - remember you were his link to your mom, also.

    Frankly, Tony, you pick me up when I'm stressed. You are the sweetest and kindest person on this blog, and you warm my heart constantly with you sunny disposition. I'm really sick to death of the nastiness and the hardship that seems to have taken over, and there you are with your smile.

    Solar - that goes for you, too. You are so upbeat that you calm my blood pressure. With all the macho posturing around the world, and here too, it makes me smile when you show the strength of your self-confidence when you can easily say you made a mistake. You don't have to make others pay for your self-doubts because you know you're doing fine. What a relief to know you don't feel inadequate and don't need to prove anything.

    I learned years ago that to easily admit a weakness or mistake triggers the jealousy reaction in some people. I found out that so many people are aware of their own shortcomings but terrified to admit it. They really resent others who are strong enough to accept their faults and laugh at themselves. Those people can't accept themselves - it's not your problem.

    Posted by: bethyboo Author Profile Page | November 30, 2008 3:12 AM

  101. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9QwGJkYisc

    Rosie -- that was a great message that you posted for Tony.

    Tony -- I'm so very sorry about Pepper.

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | November 30, 2008 6:13 AM

  102. Tony,

    I'm am so sorry for what happened to Pepper. Sixteen years is a nice long life for a pet, but it's never easy. I'm sorry for the pain you had to go through. Loss is so hard to deal with.

    Posted by: chloe Author Profile Page | November 30, 2008 6:29 AM

  103. Patsi, Glad you found the zebra and that the sets complete. It really is the little things that count. :)

    Posted by: chloe Author Profile Page | November 30, 2008 6:29 AM

  104. Posted by: chloe Author Profile Page | November 30, 2008 6:32 AM

  105. Excellent article in Salon: Tom Friedman tries to hide his "big stick" with revisionist history...

    http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/11/30/friedman/

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | November 30, 2008 7:11 AM

  106. "remember you were his link to your mom, also"

    tony, bethy said it all for me.... particularly including what she said at 3:12 about you.

    Posted by: patd | November 30, 2008 7:19 AM

  107. huzzah! huzzah! patsi bagged her zebra!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bsugfQpWyw&feature=related

    Posted by: patd | November 30, 2008 7:51 AM

  108. Ha! Yes -- pat -- my daughter tracked it down on ebay!!!! As I told her, how could Maria and I play with the figurines while watching Madasgar unless we had the zebra!!!???

    Also got her the fairy figurines to play with while we watch Tinkerbell...

    I told my daughter, son-in-law and my son that they were going to be in charge of cooking and cleaning this Christmas -- I was going to be in charge of playing with my granddaughter!

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | November 30, 2008 7:58 AM

  109. And what a joy she is -- with the Doodlebops -- down front and waving!

    http://practicallyperfectpatsi.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/mariabopswithdoodles.jpg

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | November 30, 2008 8:01 AM

  110. Tony, I'm so sorry about Pepper. Please accept my condolences.

    Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | November 30, 2008 8:43 AM

  111. Good morning all
    Thanks to all for your kindness! Rosie a special thanks to you for the rainbow-tube! Bethy thanks!

    Patsi
    I love this! "I told my daughter, son-in-law and my son that they were going to be in charge of cooking and cleaning this Christmas -- I was going to be in charge of playing with my granddaughter!" Your a wonderful Grandmother! What a wonderful thing for any child or adult. I had a Grandmother like you and I'm so glad,your post brought that back..Nice...

    Posted by: tonyb39 Author Profile Page | November 30, 2008 8:45 AM

  112. Tony.... here's a cyber hug.....
    {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{TONY}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

    Patsi...... YES! zebras are good.....

    Posted by: RebelliousRenee Author Profile Page | November 30, 2008 9:23 AM

  113. Visible Light Waves
    "Visible light waves are the only electromagnetic waves we can see. We see these waves as the colors of the rainbow. Each color has a different wavelength. Red has the longest wavelength and violet has the shortest wavelength. When all the waves are seen together, they make white light."
    http://science.hq.nasa.gov/kids/imagers/ems/visible.html

    Posted by: chloe Author Profile Page | November 30, 2008 9:28 AM

  114. Tony -- we had beautiful weather Wednesday and Thursday -- and are now back to cold and rainy -- wish I was in Florida!!!!!!!!

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | November 30, 2008 9:31 AM

  115. Posted by: tonyb39 Author Profile Page | November 30, 2008 9:31 AM

  116. Here's one Christian you don't want to tailgate...or pass on the wrong side of -- or even be on the same road with....

    http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/traffic/God_said_she__needed_to_be_taken_off_the_road.html

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | November 30, 2008 9:35 AM

  117. http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/weekend-roundup-1.html#comment-177950

    Patsi
    I know what you mean.I moved here to care for the ladies and the weather grew on me,so I sold everything in Michigan and stayed. Mostly 80's last week and supposed to be in the 70's this week, I like it this time of year because you can open up the windows some.I get a nice breeze coming across the lake in back of my property,heavenly....

    Posted by: tonyb39 Author Profile Page | November 30, 2008 9:43 AM

  118. " a nice breeze coming across the lake in back of my property,heavenly...."

    Ah -- yes...heavenly. And I have to go to the grocery store in the (yuk) rain! ROFL!!!!

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | November 30, 2008 9:50 AM

  119. tonyb39

    So sorry about the death of your pup...

    Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | November 30, 2008 9:56 AM

  120. Catholic Obama voters ordered to "confession."

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/56697.html

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | November 30, 2008 10:02 AM

  121. patsi, is your beautiful angelic maria also like this "flibberty-jibbet" and "how do you hold a moonbeam in your hand?" type maria?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYtjdal1uDc

    Posted by: patd | November 30, 2008 10:03 AM

  122. Pat -- She's what my grandmother would have called "a caution," my dad would have called "a pistol," and most would call a charmer...Very similar to the song! ha!

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | November 30, 2008 10:44 AM


  123. Tony----glad i checked in before starting to work out-------I too am sorry for your loss------ ---Pepper----------I believe in reincarnation so the next pup that you get,it will be pepper but called------Salt-----------que sera sera.

    Bethyboo----Thank you for your words at you 3:12 am post---before coming on this blog ---i looked at some others ----there is no comparison-----TM---outshines them all , with the wonderful diverse people that are here,,,,my intent is still the same as when i came here,,,and that is to learn from all, ,,and to share what little that i know with mainly the lurkers about true History and Religion, and the Sciences,,,,educating people is the only way to stop the,,,HATE,,,that is out there and that i have experience ---if along the way I have to be corrected for some wrong information----then i have learned something,,,and my reason for being here makes sense to me-------also along the way I have some new,wonderful people to talk to----it is my new Cantina----I have always enjoyed talking to friends ----a person like brian would never have sat to me more than once,,and never would have talked to me more than once, you would not like that other person----me (just one more Ha) What is great about the sciences is that they are always being improved by new information--and I will keep on informing about what I think is interesting ---if at some point it is not----then i will expect one of you to tell me,,and since this is a blog that is respected by most of you I would stop---but some punk in NY won't be a problem to me,,,,thank you so much for your sense of me----all of me's :-)))))))

    Patsi----Tthanks---glad you and Miss Maria will be playing together with the hard to find toys --------what is also enjoyable is that once you are finished, and a little tired of playing---is that you will get to rest up , and recuperate when they go home.

    Chole ----I booked that sit that you posted at 9:28

    As always ---i we do think very similar ------that will help me in many ways ---that was your way to support me thanks for taking the time.

    Posted by: SolarCrete Author Profile Page | November 30, 2008 10:58 AM


  124. Rosie----the Rainbow Bridge post-----great way to say something to some one hurting----that is what i will use ----i booked it

    Posted by: SolarCrete Author Profile Page | November 30, 2008 11:02 AM

  125. The Annual Haggis Hunt has begun from now through January 25. Enjoy spotting them on ten webcams and trying to win the weekly prizes

    http://haggishunt.scotsman.com/

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | November 30, 2008 11:37 AM

  126. Haggis tastes offal.

    Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | November 30, 2008 12:04 PM

  127. Well, the Big Guy is doing a good job so far.
    http://www.adn.com/nation/story/604872.html

    Posted by: rosiethecat Author Profile Page | November 30, 2008 12:05 PM

  128. LOL@Flatus

    Posted by: rosiethecat Author Profile Page | November 30, 2008 12:07 PM

  129. Thought for the day -
    " Never mind the wind ... Adjust your sails." .................... Ted Turner

    1835 Samuel Clemens [Mark Twain], author (Tom Sawyer, Huckleberry Finn)

    Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 30, 2008 12:14 PM

  130. "it is my new Cantina----"

    solar, that phrase sparked who it is you remind me of. what i see in your writings is a combination of the main characters in graham greene's "the power and the glory" and you seem to be both at once the whiskey priest and the lieutenant. please don't be offended as i mean this as a compliment and that you remind me of the good qualities in these otherwise flawed or fallen men (fallen that is in the eyes of the church). cerveza toast to solar!

    Posted by: patd | November 30, 2008 12:27 PM

  131. http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/weekend-roundup-1.html#comment-177963

    Cute Flatus. Not true, but cute. Besides, you only hunt the Hagii with cameras. No haggis will be injured in the course of the hunting season.

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | November 30, 2008 12:33 PM

  132. " Never mind the wind ... Adjust your sails." .................... Ted Turner

    c-bob, did you see him on mtp this morning. loved it. specially his push for alternative energy.

    Posted by: patd | November 30, 2008 12:33 PM

  133. I noticed one of those things that only appear when they suddenly go away. Like a loud noise when it stops.

    Car commercials, this Sunday morning I noticed the silence that had been growing for weeks. There aren't any truck commercials with knobby tires grinding over rocks, and mud. None of the old style ads that implied I wasn't a real Texan unless I had a 3/4 ton crew cab, with duelly's on the back, and a Detroit diesel to move it all around.

    This Sunday morning the only car ad in heavy rotation was the Toyota one selling the car made out of leaves and twigs. It was floating on an ocean of oil company ads, telling us how they, " get it ".

    Now, if we can just get that leaves and twigs car to run on fungi.

    Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 30, 2008 12:38 PM

  134. What is it about evangelicals that they have a vision of God so small and petty that he must be petted and praised every single minute of the day like some petty tyrant who will put you in front of the firing squad if you don't genuflect and salute in the proper manner.

    If my job were keeping several universes running in an orderly fashion, the last thing I would want is constant noise. :-)

    Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | November 30, 2008 12:39 PM

  135. jamie, what they picture on that link as haggii sure look like platypuses (platypodes?) to me.

    Posted by: patd | November 30, 2008 12:42 PM

  136. Patd -
    Ya, I bookmarked that line, as soon as it came on the screen. Ted is the largest land owner in America, and he's giving all of it to the "greenies" when he goes.

    Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 30, 2008 12:46 PM

  137. Another Catholic pastor labels voting for Obama a sin

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/56697.html

    Posted by: BrianInNYC Author Profile Page | November 30, 2008 12:46 PM

  138. http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/weekend-roundup-1.html#comment-177971


    Because evangelicals understand in their guts something the are scared to admit in their mind. God enjoys sneaking up behind you and kicking you in the ass. And he doesit at time when you are unable to maintain your balance.

    It is the reason I refuse to believe in God, for if he exists we're going to have to have a long talk about some of his habits.


    Jack

    Posted by: whskyjack Author Profile Page | November 30, 2008 12:47 PM


  139. Bethy--Wrote----and I am responding,,like this in the hopes that it will help someone out there in space.

    "I learned years ago that to easily admit a weakness or mistake triggers the jealousy reaction in some people. I found out that so many people are aware of their own shortcomings but terrified to admit it. They really resent others who are strong enough to accept their faults and laugh at themselves. Those people can't accept themselves - it's not your problem."'

    I would like to expound on this a little-------at some point all of my workers have told me, that they appreciate that I do admit when i make a mistake------believe me in construction mistakes are part of the job----it is how you correct them that counts -----If a worker see you covering up for a dumb mistake-------he will cover up in his mistake that will at the very least cause you to be embarrassed with the client, a most probably, time and cash.

    I have lived pretty hard,,and partyed pretty hard, and made a lot of mistakes-----some I learned from, some I didn't------Once that I finally decided that I had been carrying a lot of childhood baggage I don't remember 60% of my childhood----lot of bad stuff---my dad used to make me kneel, when he wanted to punish me (which was often-i was pretty outspoken and rebellious) and hit me with an electric extension cord (Marine Corps- boot camp was a
    breeze for me) cos i would not let him hit my two youngest brothers--he was a fuckin monster when he wanted to be,,,my mom a good catholic -----in her religious ignorance had to stand by her man-----she was great at making things better, Well anyway I told my worker that once I figured it out----that the hardest part was to look in the mirror and forgive myself-----i stood in front of full length mirror without any clothes on---and recalled all the hurtful things that I did to others,and they to me,,,,and while crying like a baby---i realized that the one I hurt the most,,,was myself,,,,,,and forgave myself,,,,,it was a huge weight off my shoulders-------I have always been a pretty happy guy ,,,but a friend, and family said that there was a diff. in me-------my older brother , the decon asked me if i found god-----I told him that I had found myself....we always talk about our feelings ----sometimes it get a little personal ,,but we have very strong ties in our family.

    I felt that there was something still missing for awhile ----a year later if figured it out again-------My Father-------he was now retired living in Mexico,,,I took two weeks off work and flew to Mexico to see my Mom and Dad-------My mom looked the same to me,,,a little older-----My father looked,,,,older too but not like a monster---Well we finally took a walk that did not involve the wood shed,,and we were gone from the house for most of the day----we forgave each other------I can still see, and hear him when he told me that,out of all the children that he had (11-that lived--4 died) that he never worried about me---he knew that i would always be ok,,,,and that he was very proud of me. He even showed me the American Legion Building, and went with me to have a cpl of beers---(damn--no bud but had a similar one) with me----he was still a cheapskate and i did all the buying(actually i insisted) I met a cple of people that were from Canada,,,they were very nice---we talked about our diff political views ---he told me that he was happy with the universal health ins,,he had ---but was not happy with the wait time---had to go to chicago one for an emergency..

    I am a much happier person now that I have learned to forgive myself and my father----A cpl of the people that I have come in contact with (3-ex gang members also) have told me that they are much happier after the forgave themselves-they call me once in a while,,you can fell the confidence in their voices----makes me feel-----Once again Wrote this in the hopes that someone out there can forgive them selves----no one can other that you and that mirror---you don't have to get nekid ---but if you don't cry real tears----you are just b s ing your self----try it again-----sorry for the long----long rant-------if you all want to blame some one blame Bethy---she makes me talk, and talk and----Bethy- lots of hugs :-))))))))

    Posted by: SolarCrete Author Profile Page | November 30, 2008 12:50 PM

  140. ever since typekey became typepad signing in is a nightmare.

    Posted by: BrianInNYC Author Profile Page | November 30, 2008 12:51 PM

  141. flatus, awful offal at that. here's a recipe from alton. notice his last line: "Serve with mashed potatoes, if you serve it at all."

    http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/alton-brown/haggis-recipe/index.html

    Posted by: patd | November 30, 2008 12:51 PM

  142. 1886 1st commercially successful AC electric power plant opens, Buffalo

    1983 Radio Shack announces the Tandy Model 2000 computer (80186 chip)

    Great moments in electricity.

    Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 30, 2008 12:54 PM

  143. offal is in the eye of the beholder.........

    Posted by: sturgeone | November 30, 2008 1:00 PM

  144. either that or Offal is on the shoe of the beholder.......

    Posted by: sturgeone | November 30, 2008 1:01 PM

  145. “The day of fossil fuels as a fuel are over. It’s just a matter of how soon everybody recognizes it.”
    Ted Turner

    Posted by: patd | November 30, 2008 1:02 PM

  146. Another great day in electricity -

    1924 1st photo facsimile transmitted across Atlantic by radio

    Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 30, 2008 1:03 PM

  147. Some Offal is quite Delish

    Posted by: Chef Sheila | November 30, 2008 1:06 PM

  148. "Another Catholic pastor labels voting for Obama a sin
    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/56697.html/Posted by: BrianInNYC | November 30, 2008 12:46 PM"

    See November 30, 2008 10:02 AM

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | November 30, 2008 1:08 PM

  149. We owe this to Nicola Tesla. That was his power house at Buffalo. Running Westinghouse turbines that he designed.

    We don't need more God, we need more Tesla.

    Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 30, 2008 1:11 PM

  150. Im way too serious--here u go---Rosie


    After retiring, I went to the Social Security office
    to apply for Social Security. The woman behind the counter asked me for
    my driver's license to verify my age. I looked in my pockets and
    realized I had left my wallet at home.

    I told the woman that I was very sorry, but I would have
    to go home and come back later.
    The woman said, 'Unbutton your shirt'.

    So I opened my shirt revealing my curly silver hair. She
    said, 'That silver hair on your chest is proof enough for me' and she
    processed my Social Security application.

    When I got home, I excitedly told my wife about my
    experience at the Social Security office.

    She said, 'You should have dropped your pants. You might
    have gotten disability, too'


    Posted by: SolarCrete Author Profile Page | November 30, 2008 1:15 PM

  151. From the separation of church and state file -
    1554 Roman Catholicism was (briefly) restored to England, under the reign of Mary Tudor, the daughter of Henry VIII and Catherine of Aragon. In the process, "Bloody Mary" had Thomas Cranmer, Hugh Latimer, Nicholas Ridley and nearly 300 other Protestant leaders burned at the stake.

    Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 30, 2008 1:17 PM

  152. C-Bob -- Did you hear the NPR show on Tesla this morning? You can stay in his old room....

    Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | November 30, 2008 1:22 PM

  153. I hope they had enough BBQ sauce CB!

    Posted by: BrianInNYC Author Profile Page | November 30, 2008 1:22 PM


  154. Jamie wrote
    http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/weekend-roundup-1.html#comment-177971

    How is it that hardly any major religion has looked at science and concluded, 'This is better than we thought!--- The Universe is much bigger than our prophets said, grander, mor subtle, more elegant? Instead thy say, No, no, no, my god is a little god, and I want him to stay that way. All religions, old or new, that stressed the magnificence of the Universe as revealed bu modern science might be avle to draw forth reserves of reverence and awe hardly tapped by the conventional faiths.
    Carl Sagan, wrote in Pale Blue Dot

    Jact----ain it the truth
    http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/weekend-roundup-1.html#comment-177975

    I would like to know why he did not allow Noah to swat the 2 flies???? they spread a lot of sickness no???

    Padt----you can say what ever you want to ---to me,,,y r great and can never insult me---i will read that book---maybe i can see what others see in me---thanks

    Posted by: SolarCrete Author Profile Page | November 30, 2008 1:40 PM

  155. this sounds like an old wurlitzer juke-box......

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdrMIqqdcnw&feature=related

    Posted by: sturgeone | November 30, 2008 1:47 PM

  156. Big "O"...........a change is gonna come......