Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

well, boysengoils......it's been a heck of a week, brownie.......I started at the crack of Monday at sunup and went from thence to quite this afternoon in a McMansion (for lack of a better term) on the beach....... 4 baths, powder room, kitchen, dining........cabinets already in place, all we're doing is drawers (104), doors, and false panels......"Grass" hidden hinges on the doors, KV self-closing drawer sides......false panels on all the appliances......dishwasher, sub-zero refer, warming drawer, trash compactor (what an anachronism), Ice-Maker, and separate beneath the granite counter sub-zero 2 drawer freezer....knobs on the doors and cup pulls on the drawers......Cherry office with 6 file drawers, black walnut kitchen, painted bath vanities, drop zone, and laundry room...... Monday mawnin' le cock crows once more......tonight is for saturday night lives and gimme 'nudder bud, bud........

Posted by: sturgeone | November 1, 2008 11:59 PM

OMG! SNL's KO skit was spot on. Was hoping for Craig as pundit, but "Richard Wolffe" was really good.

I almost feel compelled to watch "Countdown" on Monday to see KO's reaction, but since it was all about him, he'll probably take it as a compliment.

How are you seeing it yet? oh crimeny.....I set my watch up this afternoon...........HORSEFEATHERS

I heard the KO skit was good a few days ago.

I seem to be in a time warp.

tt

I'm belated.

Oh, I know. It was KO who said it on Countdown.

Duh.

tt

sturge, it'll be on YouTube or some where soon.

tt

whom do I ask to see about placing my blog on the blogroll.......blogroll........sounds like something you used to get at "Stuckey's"...................
that was the other thing I learned in the eighth grade from lt. Badger..........he drew little cartoon characters of "who" and "whom"......"Who" had an "Alley Oop" type club and was smacking "Whom" over the head..........
"Whom" is acted upon by "Who". "Who" acts. "Whom" is acted upon. Besides his goofy chalkboard cartoon, he showed us the "Who's on First" Routine.................

McCain is doing funny.......Charleston??

that does it........I KNEW he looked at me when I took my daughter.........That does it.........IM MOVING.

the last time I moved was cause I heard most accidents happen within 25 miles of home............

Just took a peek at the University of Iowa's Presidential Voter Share futures market. At this time, they have Obama's probability of winning at 85%. The voter-share market is currently at Obama -- 53%, McCain -- 46.5% HOWEVER, the markets have been trending slightly closer to each other for the last 4 days.

http://iemweb.biz.uiowa.edu/quotes/Pres08_quotes.html

Nice graph of the data is located here:

http://iemweb.biz.uiowa.edu/graphs/graph_Pres08_VS.cfm

there's books that teach you about yourself, and there's books which teach you about the world......the best one I ever read on the "myself" project was WALDO by Robert Heinlein.......it's ok science fiction the first time around, but then with each re-reading it assumes along the way all the auras of Socrates, Ghandi, Kurt Vonnegut, Nietzsche, Bertie Russell, and Jackie Gleason.
The books I read growing up which taught about the world and you, yourself, also in the bargain, were THE FREDDY BOOKS......by Walter Brooks......talking farm animals.......Freddy the Pig wrote poetry......Jinx the cat......all the animals talked and only Farmer Jones could hear them......they went on adventures all over the country.....kind of a precursur to the muppets.........

If anyone here has kids or grandkids to whom they read, I heartily and whole-foodedly recommend THE FREDDY BOOKS by Walter Brooks.

Senator Obama will reach 320; Ralph Nader will pull a higher-than-expected number of votes away from Senator McCain.

Posted by: benjaminblue | November 1, 2008 12:58 PM
_______________________

Jamie: It seems that in compiling all the predictions, you missed mine, and I want my bragging rights!

The city library was across the street downtown from my old alcoholic aunt........sometimes I'd have to sit in the library while me mudda visited with the aunt and sometimes I'd visit with her and me mom would amuse herself among the books........lots of tension.....I didnt know beans about alcohol at the age I was, I just dug my aunt and thought she was cool, though seemingly in some kind of strangely dire straits.....a very sad case she was.......Blanche DuBois had NUTTIN' on this dame........man, she could cook......talk a blue streak with a cig and a coffee.........and that cig/coffee smell.......yup

But exploring in that library for hours at a time is where I found Old Freddy the Poet Pig........his poems are riotus........

FREDDY DISCOVERED BY THE NEW YORK TIMES

The following article appeared in the May 22, 1994 New York Times Book Review and was written by Adam Hochschild.

That Paragon of Porkers: Remembering Freddy the Pig

The moral center of my childhood universe, the place where good and evil, friendship and treachery, honesty and humbug were defined most clearly, was not church, not school and not the Boy Scouts. It was the Bean Farm.

The Bean Farm, as all right-thinking children of my generation knew, was the upstate New York home of Freddy the Pig and his fellow animals. They were the subject of 26 books by Walter R. Brooks, a New York advertising man and a staff writer for the New Yorker, that appeared between 1927 and Brooks's death in 1958, One of Brooks's many triumphs of tone was that his human characters were surprised, but only mildly surprised, that the animals talked. Mr. Bean, whose farm they lived on, barely said a word, so he appeared the unusual one.

Brooks had many admirers, from my fifth-grade classmates to the mighty Lionel Trilling, who called the books "delightful." Other loyalists have claimed Freddy as the ancestor of more famous literary pigs such as those in George Orwell's "Animal Farm" (1945). In fact, in "Freddy the Politician" (first published in 1939 as "Wiggins for President" ), the animals foil a crafty gang of woodpeckers who try to seize control of the Bean Farm by making extravagant promises - a revolving door for the henhouses, cat-proof apartments for the rats and so on. In his book "Fairy Tales and After," the critic Roger Sale pointed out that :Freddy the Politician: "not only preceded Orwell's work but is a good deal more careful with its materials and, for that matter, shrewder about its politics…The actions emerge much less mechanically than do Orwell's."

Freddy's readers have called him a porcine prince, a pig of many parts, a paragon of porkers, a Renaissance pig. As the problems he faces require, he is by turns a cowboy, a balloonist, a magician, a campaign manager, a pilot, and a detective. But he is the most unheroic of heroes: he oversleeps, daydreams, eats too much and, when not suffering from writer's block, writes flowery poetry for all occasions. His tail uncurls when he gets scared. Although lazy, he accomplishes a lot, because "when a lazy person once really gets started doing things, it's easier to keep on than it is to stop."

Walter R. Brooks's gentle genius shines even brighter in his villains. Take, for example, Watson P. Condiment, the comic book magnate, who has six big houses, 15 big cars and a yacht. A blustery blackmailer, he is "a tall thin man who always looked as if he had a stomach ache. That was because he did have a stomach ache." But the animals can thwart Mr. Condiment's evil plans, because "people who read comic books will believe almost anything."

Almost all the other villains foiled by Freddy are representatives of the Establishment. The bank president, Mr. Weezer, who appears in many of the books, has glasses that fall off anytime anyone mentions a sum over $10. General Grimm is "short, stocky and red-faced and looked as if his uniform was too tight for him but nobody had better mention it." Mr. Gridley, the high school principal "never came close to anybody he was talking to but always stood off several yards and shouted."

The pompous, timid Senator Blunder flees the scene when pursued by the animals, because "should I be struck down, into what hands would fall the reins of the ship of state?" The fabulously wealthy Margarine family tears up farmers' fields with fox hunts in "Freddy Rides Again." (The fox, of course, is a friend of Freddy's, and the Margarine's are undone.) And, until he is exposed by the animals, a conniving real estate man pretends he is a ghost and haunts houses he wants the occupants to sell.

Give a researcher data, and he'll be a happy camper...

I just ran the Predictions data, and here's what we got...Based on the 55 predictions, as a group, we are 80% confident that the actual Electoral College votes for each candidate will fall between:

Obama: 338 to 352 Electoral College Votes
McCain: 183 to 197 Electoral College Votes
Obama's Win Percentage: 5.84% to 7.14%

could someone add:
Blues Crab.blogspot.com
and
databird.com

to the blog roll?

the person on databird is riley.......he has a place with a weird constitution party called

and Blues Crab? That's me.......I may post something at some point. Maybe.
revolutionbroadcasting.com

they got a radio going all day and a chat room
but he lurks here.......he's shy........

Let me see if I can coherentify that a bit........

great new blogs for the blog roll -----

www.bluescrab.blogspot.com

www.databird.com

apparently a lot of Trailmixers are giving all the tilting and most of the toss-up states to Obama. Could happen, but I will be shocked if Obama exceeds 350.

sturgee...back in '01 about 15 family members chipped in and we rented a huge Nag's Head beach house for a week for $4500. We only had about half of them turn out to be deadbeats and the damn bill was on my card...NEVER AGAIN !!! But...that was different times...money was easy...it seems like a lifetime ago!!!
OBAMA= C H A N G E

Well. I am pissed. Why doesn't SNL have the Olbermann parody on their website. Bloody hell !! Oh and good morning.

Life is all about "Ass."
You're either covering it, laughing it off, kicking it, kissing it, busting it, trying to get a piece of it, or behaving like one....

From the kickin' it division -

Dems hold big edge in Florida in early and absentee voting

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/55125.html

ABC News' Kate Snow reports: With three days left until the election, the John McCain campaign still has not, despite frequent requests, released any information about vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin's medical history, prompting some well-warranted skepticism.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/11/day-six-and-sti.html

Maybe if "Joe the Plumber" asked her, we'd get an answer.

sturgeone

Nice riff tonight.

Well the first Rev. Wright ad just ran on MSNBC.

From NPR yesterday -

The Presidential Debates Of '08 — 1908, That Is

It seems almost impossible to get away from the presidential campaign these days. The candidates are arguing on the radio in your car, plopping down in your living room on the TV, and even popping up on your computer.

For all that, you can thank William Jennings Bryan and William Howard Taft. Those two kicked off the era of the mass-media presidential campaign a century ago. And the modern parallels are uncanny.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=96390250

Texas Tech stuns No. 1 Texas in the final seconds

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/colleges/story/870936.html

Great game, Tech won with 1 sec. on the clock.

Anon

They have been running the Reverend Wright ad for a couple of days here in Missouri. Not McCain but some "independent" group.

Jack

It's too bad William Jennings Bryan never won. I think he would have been a great populist President.

Tom

Scopes Monkey trial

Jack

Here's a great ad... Scott Kleeb... DAYUM what a looker!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSJy8aSM1sU

I've been out of pocket, so I don't know if anyone has posted Chick Todd's state-by-state update. The great news is that it's possible that a Democrat will pick up Dick Cheney's old House seat in Wyoming.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27478547/

Yeah well... you are right Jack... still he would have been better than Taft :D

Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/02/opinion/02rich.html?_r=1&ref=opinion&oref=slogin

Frank Rich nails it.

Uh, that would be "Chuck" Todd....

I do know a couple of guys named Chick, but they're both involved in hillbilly music....

"Life is all about "Ass."
You're either covering it, laughing it off, kicking it, kissing it, busting it, trying to get a piece of it, or behaving like one...."

Stop it anon -- yer killin' me.

Mornin all...... less then 48 hours to go for the final...

PATSI --- Nice - may I add that if McCain turns this around the media entertainers should feel like one.....

But heck maybe no need to vote since everyone has declared the winner!

Thank you, Ronald Reagan:

http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081102/NEWS01/811020429

Brain - Well Put !!!

Is there time in the last short news cycle?

Can McCain blow over the facade of Obama -

I still claim give me a 30 Min interview and you will hear about Ping the Blogger!!!!

Ping -- Anon is the on who originally posted the "Ass" commentary -- I just cracked up and repeated it....

Ping -- read Chuck Todd's state-by-state -- it's good.

Patsi - ah perfect for a plumber! So you just wedged in your points and dumped them on us? what a gas!!

Patsi -

That was on the last thread, I didn't write that one, but I know good material when I see it. And like Picasso I try and steal from the best.

Will the real author please stand-up.

Sorry, but I think the idea of McCain being a "maverick" is a facade... Just my humble opinion.

CRAIG - One more comment from your post a few back. A thanks for clearing up that the “Feeling moved” was more of a political science prospective.

So is this a CHANGE for you to acknowledge that it is OK to run a campaign with only 4 talking points, stay away from the press and do not answer questions?

I have not heard much from the PUMA’s but maybe they are also feeling a Movement to fall in line? After all the payment to Big Dog was made.

I fully agree that The Obamaittes have run the best “Marketing Campaign”.

They could use the Toyota music – Saved by Zero

"And like Picasso I try and steal from the best.

Will the real author please stand-up."

Hilarious! So, Anon -- whoever posted it in the firsts place has at least two fans on the board.....

OK with the theme that Patsi butted in with this morning, do you like how I used the term “Movement” in my last post? What a gas….

Brain, please do not blow us away!! That would really stink.

OK juvenile time is over…

Sorry Flatus..

"I think the idea of McCain being a "maverick" is a facade... Just my humble opinion. "

Tom -- I think McCain was, at one point, something of a maverick -- if being a maverick means being willing to buck his own party. But when Bush came in, people seemed to lose all semblance of objectivity. He was thought to be the Great Hope of Conservatism. They slobbered over him just long enough for a lot of evil shit to go down.

And that's what we all have to stop doing -- slobbering over candidates and shrugging off accountability. And that includes Barack Obama, who is thought to be the Great Hope of Liberalism.

Brain - Yes, I agree - I am very disappointed in the current position - The Campaign that has redefined Barack is to the point the most spectacular Marketing second only to a few others in World History!

The Barack facts are an easy target and less then 48 hours to full voting... It is most likely to late.

The talking heads are just as much to blame as the Entertainers taking the seats in the MSM

But at the end of the day do not place blame anywhere but with what you can control and the home team.

No crying about the officials not giving a call your way.

Barack has very few substantive points to count on.

Barack has very few substantive points to count on.

And his campaign is a contradiction of his actual history. He is a Liberal but his campaign has been allowed to control the flow and language. McCain never found a voice to match.

To many distractions to facts.

Barack is going to capitalize on a few factors.

Craig – so do not write on Wednesday that if he wins, that this is a resounding movement. It is much more a rejection – which is the primary campaign theme – then a movement towards what???? Which Barack?

"OK with the theme that Patsi butted in with this morning, do you like how I used the term “Movement” in my last post? What a gas…."

Ping -- I haven't really understood this "movement" since the "plumber" reference you made...what are you talking about? My repeating Anon's "ass" post?

As the teachers always say: Be specific, use examples....

"It is much more a rejection "

I agree with this sentiment, Ping. This election has really been about George Bush.

Dextrous.....Nags Head.....I spent 9 months in that area as a guest of the gov't at Elizabeth City.......the good old pasquotank river.......Nags Head a common diversion....

Speaking of Bush -- a really funny Doonesbury:

http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/dailydose/index.html

Here's another very good piece from Salon. Glen Greenwald talks about a phrase that has long irritated me, "Commander in Chief" --

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/11/02/biden/

Patsi -
This rejection which by default Barack is the recipient of the lack of choice. As McCain never got his voice out there….. But let’s give Barack acknowledgement for his gift. This is part of leadership to be capable of delivery of message.

Just which message is Barack going to deliver?

Scary – some of his voters will be very disappointed in a very short time.

As they bought into one of the many Baracks then closed their ears.

Sturg

104 drawers. Sheesh. We have three drawers. I can never find anything because Stinky keeps moving my stuff from drawer to drawer. Sheesh. 104 drawers.

Sturg -
You up late and up early!! Early bird gets the worm!!

grits and eggs yet?
Or susage and gravy?

and in the theme - is that red eye gravy.. ouhhhh

Flatus.............dont tell anyone about it but I built a strange cubicle looking floor to ceiling thing in a cherry closet in a downtown house for a lady once.....the cubicles were roughly a foot square and a foot deep, 10 foot ceiling, and about 6 cubicles wide.........I wondered what it was until i went back for something ornother after they'd moved in and took a look...........it was sweaters......every cubicle, sweaters.....

Ahh the American Right ..... It's always some ethereal force, clever words, the "media", powerful "elites".

How about this .... Your guy is a bozo, who proved to be the "best" in a crowded field bozos. Your much vaulted "ideas". You folks believe the earth is 6,000 years old. You think that being a "C" student is just the same as graduating Mega cum Laude'. That a plumber's views on nuclear proliferation have the same value as say Dick Lugar's.

pingalong cassidy......so far just the cafe and a bored egg sammich...........with leftover baked chicken

Red Eye??

Anon - You are on the same theme.... just a little rudimentary in your language.

So we agree – it is not about Barack being this wonderful choice that he is getting high on every night – but about the lack of choice. And that Bozo could not get the easy win from Obama.

Thanks

Sturg .. u nver had redeye grvy?

Gotta have it from the drippings of the ham... yum yum

I think the GoP is throwing the game......they have enough money saved up to really really throw a monkey wrench into the next administration......

I just saw the Olberman SML skit -- hilarious!

But I digress.

Anon -- the dumbest thing both "sides" do is stereotype each other. Liberals are socialists and baby killers. Conservatives are flat-earthers and knuckle-draggers.

Plus: What happened to this Brave New World where Everybody is but One Body and we all just get along? Was that just rhetoric?

And Anon -- the earth is not that old..... Prove it!!! Only a twit would believe that…

little rudimentary -

They're called declarative sentences old buddy, or "straight talk" in some quarters.

".............I wondered what it was until i went back for something or other after they'd moved in and took a look...........it was sweaters......every cubicle, sweaters....."

Sturge -- you should have seen Tanya Tucker's wardrobe room out at the ranch...it was as big as the house I was living in at the time. Many, many of those cubicles (shoes, sweaters, etc), as well as rows of labeled clothes racks, huge circular hammocks for throwing down discarded costumes while choosing what to take on the bus.

ping....yeppus.....had the red -eye ham dripping gravy before.........i thought maybe you were roundaboutedly commenting on my visual status this fine day..............lol

Anon - u r 1 smart dude or dudeettia... i see why u r in that elitsit grouper thing with bayrackohalabama.

let me try one of them thar declraitive statemts....

uhhh uhh I declare - Anon is on theme with the day.... no red eye gravy thar

howz waz that..? Uhhh Uhhh

Anon - ;~)
See I thought that you where a pioneer ... keeping the cover with ultra ego? But maybe not… So I tip my hatter

Ping, I love ya pal -- but are you drunk this morning?

Yes - and i was warned to get off the expresso shots first thing in the AM !!!!

Patsi -
Brave New World -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o

Anon - what a great link....

Now add the religion of Barack Obama the anointed one -

What George missed is the choice…..

Now off as a robot with choice… to worship!

God bless

Ping -

"By and large, language is a tool for concealing the truth."

NPR's This American Life -Ira Glass did a show on Pa and the presidential race. It is long but it is great. I was out and about yesterday and it was the topic of conversation with Bay area liberals.

You can listen to it on line
http://www.pri.org/this-american-life.html

I highly recommend it.

"Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things."

Since it's Sunday - here's more Carlin on the 10 Comandments ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyWEBbFwU1o

Anon - next drink is on me!
Now out the door until later....

sturgeone, added your blog to to the Blogroll:

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/blogroll.html

btw, this list has been giving me some technical problems. if anyone who used to be on it is missing, let me know. and any regulars with blogs who want to be added, send your Trail Mix screen name and blog address to:

cqtrailmix@verizon.net

Hey Sturg
Great start...does this mean we are all bozos on the bus now?

Craig, You were so close to being immortalized in an SNL skit.

McCain probably did himself more good than harm & Cindy looked very comfy, very Price-Is-Right-ish.

My friends got calls from both campaigns last night. Not sure if it's because this is Iowa or because they still, actually have a land line.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/trail-mixers-predict-obama-345.html#comment-167447

Benjamin Blue

Please post you guess. I will get it on the list.

Put my name first so I don't miss it.

Thanks

"Craig, You were so close to being immortalized in an SNL skit. -- Posted by blueINdallas"

ha, dodged that bullet.

Anon -- Great Carlin piece. I went to hear him while in college in the mid 60s. He was stunning -- not so famous then....but just as killer. Nobody else in my sorority house wanted to go, so I went solo. Best part ofall -- the Preservation Hall Band was one of a couple of musical acts that night. I've always wanted a jacket with a white bird perched on the shoulder.

Benjaminblue found yours

Blue, I've seen people walking up and down our street carrying what appears might be election stuff. I watch them look towards our house, evaluating the significance of the 30-foot flagpole (w/flag), then pass us by. I guess they have a low threshold for rejection.

Craig would be difficult to satirize on SNL. He's not a flamethrower like Matthews or Olberman, nor a sippy cup like Wolfe.

I've never heard of anyone referred to as a "sippy cup." That's good.

Sturgeone,

I added Blues Crab to my blogroll on Durward Discussion. It used to be there but you stopped writing for a while so I deleted. You are back again.

I didn't add the other blog because it doesn't seem to be run by a single person/trailmixer and doesn't have articles to feed.

Craig is the one you need to email or jump up and down and wave your hands to add blogs to his blogroll.

BTW, anyone on blogspot can add a list of blogs they follow to their blogs for even more coverage and links for everyone.

HA! Brokow just told Fred Thompson that when he was a kid hanging out at Bud's Pool Hall, he was looking for guys like Fred.

ET

Great bio on William Jennings Bryan - A Godly Hero

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Jennings_Bryan

While he was a populist and believer in the great common man, he was also a strict believer in the bible opposed to Darwin (Scopes trial), inequality of blacks, favored prohibition. Lots of things we now consider the province of the far right Republicans.

really good article from yesterday's guardian. warm, moving and full of hope.

Me, my son and Obama: one father's story
Gary Younge
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/01/obama-race-black-americans-equality

also different view on some things:

"To express such scepticism before many Obama supporters was to be accused of cynicism. The true believers do not just want you to drink the Kool Aid. They demand that you chug it.

The people my scepticism vexed most were white liberals. Obama had become prey to the soft bigotry of unreasonable expectations. Describing the crowd's reaction to him in Rockford, Illinois, Time's Joe Klein noted: "The African Americans tend to be fairly reserved ... The white people, by contrast, are out of control." They had found a black politician they felt comfortable with, and wanted him to be everything: Martin Luther King, John F Kennedy, a griot, president, vice-president, motherhood and apple pie. They prattled on about a post-racial America as though the Jena Six never happened and Sean Bell, a unarmed black man from Queens who was riddled with bullets on his wedding day, was still alive."

had to look up "griot" at wiki:
"A griot .... is a West African poet, praise singer, and wandering musician, considered a repository of oral tradition. As such they are sometimes also called bards....Although they are popularly known as 'praise singers', griots may also use their vocal expertise for gossip, satire, or political comment."
however, don't know if that definition is what younge meant when he listed it in above linked article.

Patd,

Thanks for linking that Gurardian story. I loved reading it!

Patsi

Don't turn around,,im right behind you,,,im not looking at your a--just happen to be behind u-----when i posted the asspose last night, chloe reminded that i left out head up ones a--don't know why im behind u, im really a toe man.

Since everyone is so enamored of the variations on ass, you might want to buy one of these

http://www.zazzle.com/life_is_all_about_ass_you_are_either_covering_shirt-235985777325788619

Please note on above site that they are having an "election" sale with three dollars off through Tuesday.

I guess that is when our interest in asses subsides.

elections page updated with Jamie's latest:

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/election-predictions.html

Jamie, note: this one is my prediction, not CQ's --
Cong. Quar. 333 205 Obama + 6

On the fox news panel-----they pick as surprise winners,,

Bill Crystal ---Sen. Stevens hangs on
Juan Williams---Al Franklin
Mara L---Mrs Hudson

Craig

Got the change. My mistake, I put it as CQ because you said you weren't going to predict. I'll change it.

hey solar, been meaning to get around to thanking you for the tip on baruch de espinosa. am adding him to my list of working guys who think (i've always been partial to laboring folk especially the saintly sort). i found this biography on line and wondered if you might have read it and would recommend or pan it.
http://books.google.com/books?id=iSe95FJrfeYC&pg=PA351&lpg=PA351&dq=baruch+espinosa&source=web&ots=FrkODuDGjJ&sig=yKrb6n_vuFa3xD7I80m-VosH2CA&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=7&ct=result#PPP1,M1

chloe, you're very welcome. it was a nice way to start out a beautiful sunday, wasn't it?

yeah i gave in to demands for a prediction:

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/my-electoral-college-predictio.html

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-c.cgi#comment-167540
"im really a toe man"
Solar
HA HA!! Your ass comment funny! And now toes....What a guy...Oh and I loved how you had to explain Patsi's article's sight to your wife...Thanks for the laughs....

Lol Solar.
As soon as I posted that I regretted it.
If I'd had a delete I would have deleted it.
Now you mentioned it again! :)

jamie, what happened to patsi on the prediction list? i tho't she was with rene whoopin' it up in the grandstand as a fan, pom poms and all.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/T/TRICK_OR_TREAT_KILLING_SCOL-?SITE=SCCHA&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

By MEG KINNARD
Associated Press Writer


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SUMTER, S.C. (AP) -- An ex-convict who thought he was being robbed gunned down a 12-year-old trick-or-treater, spraying nearly 30 rounds with an assault rifle from inside his home after hearing a knock on the door, police said Saturday.

Quentin Patrick, 22, is accused of killing 12-year-old T.J. Darrisaw on Friday night. T.J.'s 9-year-old brother, Ahmadre Darrisaw, and their father, Freddie Grinnell, were injured but were released after being treated at a hospital.

The family attended a Halloween celebration in downtown Sumter, 45 miles east of Columbia, then stopped at Patrick's house because the porch light was on, police said. Another sibling was with them, but wasn't hurt.

Police said at least two of the boys were wearing ghoulish masks when they knocked on the door. The boys' mother and a toddler stayed in the car nearby.

"it was a nice way to start out a beautiful sunday, wasn't it?"

Yes it was Patd.
We're hitting the road soon, buck I'm taking my laptop to keep up with you guys. Thanks again.

halloween.........yahoo......

patd

Thanks for the link to that Spinoza bio. I've been reading the philosophy of the lens grinder for decades. I"ll await a verdict from Solar.

Here is a one page discussion. Why they chose red on pink is beyond me. You may want to copy and paste to another program to make it more legible.

http://www.wsu.edu/~tcook/doc/BenedictSpinoza.htm

jamie, thanks. don't mind the pink so much, but the red print is hard to read and makes for an unpleasant, unwelcoming presentation.

Sorry chloe---but it does belong in that category, the trouble with text jokes is that they are not heard in real time and comes off (sometimes) sounding a little diff than what u intended

Hi tony----remember that u r supposed to put in the collection plate today, not take out.

Patd---yeah espinosa was a great find for me---even albert e. was said to have adopted his view of the world,,i cross reference with other books and have finally come up with something s that i really believe------i will talk to about it when the elections are over and we can sit down by the fireplace that u mentioned,,,,not i haven't read that book that u mentioned but will be the next one that i get.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-c.cgi#comment-167549

Hey Chloe
Loved your response to Solar,HA! Glad your taking your laptop,always looking for your passionate comments.Laughing along with you about the objectivity of the media and some journalists.Thanks

Good morning everyone --

I posted this to all the Facebookers -- but it's worth spreading the word here.

http://votekindly.org/

Cheers!

~Alicia

Solar, I might have figured that was you! ha!

"http://www.zazzle.com/life_is_all_about_ass_you_are_either_covering_shirt-235985777325788619"

Jamie -- do you think the misspelling on the shirt is on purpose?

Jamie--Patsi---i just went out for my run, and had to come back, it is a nice day today 60 degree's and will be for a cpl more days, i still have a lot of tomatoes left on the vine---how low of a temp before they freeze?, how can i get them to ripen when i do?

when i do take them of the vine that is

More than you ever really wanted to know about tomatoes

http://www.helpfulgardener.com/vegetable/2003/tomatoes.html

http://sarah-palin-2008.blogspot.com/2008/11/why-mccain-is-better-choice.html

Don't tomatoes ripen if you just put them in a bowl on the counter?

Solar, tomatoes are fruit and will ripen after you pick them, even the greenest ones will eventually ripen and develop a good flavor. Let them ripen slowly by placing in a dark location. I hang mine in the dark cellar and have them all winter long.

Amima Control thanks---i like your style-----talk t u later , don't laugh i just put a few on the hood of my pick-up, that is where the sun lays the longest,,but i do want them to ripen slowly so i will do what u said

Obama's aunt living in U.S. illegally

"Barack Obama's aunt, revealed this week to be dwelling in a Boston slum, is living in the United States illegally, refusing to leave the U.S. for her Kenyan homeland when a judge rejected her request for asylum four years ago, the Associated Press is reporting.

A person familiar with the case told AP that 56-year-old Zeituni Onyango was told to leave America by a U.S. immigration judge in 2004."

http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=79743

Solar, you're welcom and another thought:
Unless you're expecting really cold weather you can wait until the first sign of cool dew on your lawn and pick your tomatoes then.
Depending on the type, rather than picking them, cut the vine and hang them if you can (by tying a sting onto the vines) --this provides good air flow. If unable to then just place in a dark spot but not in a bag (air is important to slow maturation. Have a great day. Going to a soccer game.

I have some lemon boys -still hanging on the vine
http://seasonalpantry.blogspot.com/2008/10/last-tomato.html

I read somewhere -once it starts raining --pick them

The post has a couple of links to the last tomato of the season.

Solar

I just pick them before there is a killing frost. Usually by flashlight that night, lol.

Just leave them out or store them in the basement or cool back room and they will ripen
Some recomend wrapping them in newspaper to keeep them from drying out and getting wrinkled.

You can pickle the small ones< I use a dill pickle recipe. Larger one the size of a walnut can be cut in half..

Jack

Green Pickled Tomatoes

Wash tomatoes and pack in sterile jars. Add several garlic buds. (May
also add strips of celery, pepper, carrots.) Boil the following five minutes:

2 qt. water
1 qt. vinegar
1 c. canning salt
2 tbsp. dill seed

Pour brine over tomatoes. This makes enough brine for 6-7 quarts tomatoes. Add fresh dill if available. Ready to serve in six weeks.

JACK------if u hadn't put that lol----i would have gone to the store to get some batteries for may flash light-----now that is cold---making fun of a tomato dummy.

KGC---thanks----boy this is a great place, when in need just ask---lots of folks here to help------on an R' blog i would have been told to sell them while i had the chance---but i don''t think that they grow anything do they?

Today's 538 numbers with some interesting info on the state races and numbers

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/

O - 344
M - 194

Just got this email from the Al Franken campaign. Sorry for the length:

Dear Friend,

It has been a long campaign, and a tough one. Norm Coleman has sunk to historic depths to smear Al Franken and make this election about something, anything other than his own record and the issues that affect the people of Minnesota.

But what Norm Coleman did yesterday was something else entirely, and you need to know the truth.

Here's the story: A Republican businessman in Texas by the name of Paul McKim filed a lawsuit this week against Nasser Kazeminy. Kazeminy is one of Norm Coleman's biggest donors and closest friends - he's the same man who flew Coleman on his private jet to vacations in the Bahamas and Paris.

Only a small portion of the lawsuit has anything to do with Norm Coleman - but the part that does is incredibly serious. McKim's sworn affidavit, since corroborated by a second lawsuit, describes an effort to funnel $100,000 to Senator Coleman.

So are the allegations true? We don't know. In fact, we at the campaign didn't know a thing about this lawsuit, had never heard of this company or Paul McKim, until we read about it in the newspaper.

Then came yesterday. Instead of answering these very serious allegations, Norm Coleman released the most dishonest ad of the year, blaming Al for the lawsuit.

That ad is up on TV right now. And it's a despicable lie. Al Franken had nothing to do with this lawsuit.

Norm Coleman, faced with sworn allegations of a conspiracy to funnel him improper payments, is trying to deflect blame by lying about Al Franken in a TV ad. No matter what candidate you support or what party you belong to, it is a sad day.

With just a couple of days left, the only way we can stop him is with the truth. After all, that's what Al's always been about: letting the truth carry the day.

But we need your help. Please forward this email to everyone you know. And please know that no matter what happens in this election, you can be proud that you were part of this campaign.

Thank you for all you do,

Andy Barr
Al Franken for Senate

All i need now is for sturg to show up and tell me where to put em---and i hope that he doesn't say ass-----cos im sensitive;;;ha ha

"I just don't see how he can win...He has lost his brand as a maverick; he did not live up to his pledge to fight a clean campaign."
-- Rep. Chris Shays, CT co-chair of McCain campaign, on McCain

STOP - No more using the Bradley Effect term.

Before reading I propose

MediaPremature-selffullfillment-prophetic-ignorance

If McCain wins it will not be race - It will be the facade of Barack was not strong enough. People will have voted substance

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/30/AR2008103002396.html

my feelings are sensitive

Sensitive feelings are a sign of a warm heart.

How many of you are signed up like me on the Obama campaign?

Can you believe- just like in the George Carlin link earlier – the Church of Obama is again asking for more money!! Just click here – it is an emergency request from their CFO of the Campaign. I guess he is not an evil CFO that Obama points to in corp. America.

https://donate.barackobama.com/page/contribute/backstageND?source=20081102_MM_ND

What an amazing campaign

Gosh Barack - I want a front row seat - just like on a roller coaster.

I talked to my mother in the last hour... We chit chatted about many things and I reminded her to vote and she is DEFINITELY voting. And I said "you ARE voting for Barack Obama", and she replied "of course I am and Al Franken for Senate". Understand that this woman, my Mother, said back in 1988 to me that she would NEVER vote for a black man for President. I take this as a hopeful sign! She may still be racist but she's also grown and knows which candidate is going to help the common people.

Obama/Biden 2008

you know... Ping, you sound a bit bitter...

Religious left rallies for Democrats

By JEANNE CUMMINGS | 11/2/08 11:21 AM EST
The new push is part of a wider effort by Democrats to strengthen their voter turnout in key states like Ohio.

Ohio’s progressive religious leaders, who largely sat out the 2004 presidential election, have mobilized now to counter the political clout of their conservative and evangelical brethren.

“We had been silent too long,” said the Rev. Tim Ahrens, senior pastor at First Church in Columbus, who helped found We Believe Ohio, a multidenominational organization that promotes social justice and other progressive causes.

The new activism is part of a wider effort by Democrats to strengthen their voter turnout operation and broaden its reach since the bitter 2004 loss to President Bush that was caused, in part, by the mobilization of conservative religious leaders in the Buckeye State.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15166.html

While I deplore religious activism in American politics, given the activism of the religious right-wing fundamentalists for the Repugs, I am pleased that the left wing Church people are also speaking up...

Craig - you in Make up? So we get to see the haircut...

No one answered - do they put something extra in his shampoo?

Oh Craig - you are going to be with Rachel the detestation leader -- Do you think you can get that chip off of her shoulder? Is Rachel really as closed minded in person with the same arrogant unawareness of others that comes over the tube?

This one pisses me off...

Obama avoids same-sex marriage fight

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15183.html

[snip]

Some Obama supporters wish the Democratic presidential hopeful would speak out more forcefully against the initiative and perhaps even issue a statement before Election Day. Immediately after the measure qualified for the ballot in June, the Illinois senator wrote a wide-ranging letter to San Francisco's Alice B. Toklas Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender Democratic Club in which he said he opposed "the divisive and discriminatory efforts to amend the California constitution" and similar moves in other states.

Since then, however, Obama has not made any bold pronouncements or urged supporters to specifically vote no on 8. "It's been frustrating," says one gay Obama supporter and fundraiser.

Some attribute this to simple electoral politics: the Democratic nominee needn't concentrate on California because it's not a battleground state — the Field Poll has him ahead in the Golden State by as much as 22 points. And, Obama and his advisers are mindful of the 2004 presidential race, when same-sex marriage bills on 11 state ballots were credited with galvanizing the Republican base and helping George W. Bush win reelection over his Democratic challenger. "Gay marriage was an overwhelming factor in the defeat of John Kerry," former President Bill Clinton told an audience a week after the last election.

The silence has emboldened supporters of Proposition 8 to send a mailer with a picture of Obama with an accurate quote in which he states his opposition to gay marriage to inaccurately suggest that he favors the proposed ban on it. [snip]

Obama should speak out against Prop 8. It is the moral high ground to do so. On this, I am unhappy with Obama's lukewarm reaction.

If SoetorObama did not follow the proper procedure after returning to HI from Indonesia - he has something in common with Auntie Zeituni - both are living in the United States illegally.

He is refusing to authorize the release of certified hardcopy documents for a reason - his "hidden" past. There appears to be no way (not yet) to get at these documents through the legal system. The media refuses to demand that he prove his Constitutional eligibility for POTUS.

Unknowingly, the American people may be voting for a man who is a citizen of Indonesia, not America. And who has been using a name (BHO) since his teens that is not his legal name -- Barry Soetoro.
-----------------------------------
Auntie Zeituni - "Illegal"

http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=79743

ET - I think it is hilarious – How much has Barack blown to this point in dollars?

Good planning on his part – McCain airmailed his plans – even pointed out by Craig many times that McCain is a last minute campaigner.

If Barack gets elected it will be an interesting study to see which constituents he chooses to reflect. After all he has thrown not only a big net but many nets.

And I FIGHT TO THE LAST MOMEMENT…..
Vote McCain - do not let Barack and Nancy and harry....

But on Wednesday if Barack wins then I will fight to influence…

Sorry, Tom. He voted "present."

ET get used to it..

In Florida we have amendment #2 - and Barack people have said - Marriage is One Women and One Man - So Support amendment #2 – Barrack does….

Do not say I did not warn all of you Obamaittes - Which Barack are you voting for….

Craig has pointed out many times – or at least Craig used to point it out many times before his movement… (Sorry Craig just using your words)

This is what will happen with the Hidden Candidate that is running to get elected. He is the master…..

Which Barack are you voting for?

Just another reason to vote for McCain !!!

It AIN"T OVER YET..

One small news cycle to go

SNL parody of Keith Olbermann is pretty funny. Played by hottie Ben Affleck

http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/countdown-with-keith-olbermann/805561/

No Treats For Obama Supporters

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NGAYR7RHfQ

Just when you think you've seen everything ... you guys have got to see this.

Ping, I understand your partisan passion, but the Republican party is a disaster and always has been. It's time for the Dems to reclaim the mantle of power.

I correct my last comment... always has been since Reagan for sure.

ET: I thought Ben's KO was pretty funny.

Loved the camera angles on the special comment. LOL

When McCain wins Florida….

Polls showing too tight to call now in Florida…..

Why did you vote McCain when you polled in favor of Barack…

Answers –
Gosh – the pollster was more leading me and yes I too am not happy with Bush but the more I thought about it -- I am voting for Someone Not against. So I voted For McCain.

Answers –
Well the more I thought about it – it is true – what has he done…..

Answers –
I checked him out – and his words just words are much different then his real actions – Take prop 8 in California and amendment 2 in Florida – Who is the real Barack?

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/politics/orl-poll0208nov02,0,4397858.story

ET - I agree- read my posts...

2006 was a blessing - But Nancy and Harry - You think they are great?

We cannot afford $$ to have those wonderful people in power .......

Dems need to be cleaned up also.... There are lots of great new Dems that I do support – more centric.

Barack is liberal left history with verbiage of Centric. Which Barack is real?

McCain is closer to the center and the best choice – brings balance

McCain is not my first choice but he is now the best choice

GAK -- Amazing. Not only is the woman a nut -- she's a fool if she didn't see a YouTube moment heading for her like a freight train! What a maroon.

I had to google "sippy cup." sure enough, 605,000 hits for "sippy cup."

How has this expression escaped me all these years ?

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/trail-mixers-predict-obama-345.html#comment-167598

Karen, I just watched that link. MY GOODNESS! Could a person be that weird? She should have been in a witch's outfit complete with green skin, yellow teeth and an ugly wart. What a NUTCASE... Who would punish little kids? Most of the kids wouldn't even know who to support or what the fuss was about... This woman used to be a school teacher?

I am going to stop using the McInsane moniker because even McCain isn't nuts like Ms. Nagel is.!

Ping, you know I am rather left wing, except on crime and punishment... I don't want McCain in power to turn the Supreme Court even further right, not to mention the appellate courts and other federal seats. He is dangerous... but hey, if I had trick or treaters, I'd even give McCain supporters candy :)

The North Carolina polls -

74.9% of the Total 2004 vote has already voted, That's 2,661,110 people.

2008 2004
Party

Dem
50.8% 48.6%
Rep
30.6% 37.4%
None
18.5% 14.1%
Age

18-29
15.0%
30-44
23.4%
45-64
40.0%
65+
21.5%

McCain is a meat popsicle in North Carolina.

http://elections.gmu.edu/early_vote_2008.html

"He is dangerous... but hey, if I had trick or treaters, I'd even give McCain supporters candy :)"

What's the most bizarre part of this is that anyone would even think about Halloween in those terms...she's obviously a candidate for the bin.

Did you see the video by one of her former students? It's pretty telling...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF1tFOC05h8&

It's a bit too personal, but it's interesting to watch.

Fla . early voting -

53.8% of total 2004 vote has already voted, that's 4,107,894 people.

2008 2004
Party

Dem
45.5% 40.7%
Rep
37.6% 43.5%
No/Oth
16.9% 15.8%
Ballot

Absentee
38.6%
In-person
61.4%

What next, mall Santa's pushing kids off their laps if their parents don't vote 'the right way?' How the hell did politics make it into children's hollidays?

The worse part of this election, will be the finger pointing when it is over. If McCain loses, it will be blamed on Palin. If Obama loses, it will be blamed on White People. Either way The world as we know it will be exactly the same. One Group of People, blaming another Group of People, for their own faults.

I mean besides the masks and hanging effigies.

The Fla. numbers are very telling . The Dems have a 4.8% gain in early voters the Reps. have a 4.9 % loss. Other is a 1 point gain.

This is a complete reversal of the historic patterns.

Lampe look on the bright side, we get to watch the Republicans feed each other into the wood chipper.

( I've retired circular firing squad as metaphor )

Well it's not over till the fat lady sings. And to be truthful, I am a little plump, and I have yet to sing.

To be truthful, there is a few Democrats, that I would not mind adding to that Wood Chipper.

" My country's never had to prove it's faith in me"

I was the son of 2 admirals who made sure I didn't flunk-out of Annapolis. Even though I was a snot nosed punk, at the bottom of my class. Yes my friends no affirmative action for me !

Lampe -

Common ground.
Richard Byrd

Not to mention it is so fun to watch Tucker Bounds sputter and not answer questions.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/trail-mixers-predict-obama-345.html#comment-167614

Lampe

The blame game will look a bit like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCqxZxq1eyg

Wood chipper is such a versatile appliance.

the new ones run on bio-diesel.

At least Joe Watkins can go back to being a preacher man to bring in a paycheck. I'm giggling thinking about what a Ron breakdown might look like. It has something to do with popped veins and flying eyeballs.

1. KO skit last night was well done...Ben didn't quite have it down, but that's ok. Keith will probably mention on FNIA tonight or on Monday's show.

2. I must amend my Tuesday forecast(I had it right in 00, misfired on only Ohio in 04). Obama 340, McCain 198 Obama +7.5

Dems will end up with a 57-41-2 advantage in the Senate, and will add 22-26 House seats. Watch the Alabama 5th and Nebraska 1st Tuesday night.

Blago will appoint Tammy Duckworth, Sheila Simon(Paul's daughter...a very liberal gay woman who is brilliant and well-versed in domestic policy), or himself to the IL Senate seat. Mark it down.

Jack the blame game as I see it :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp3llVQh__Q

Pundit Predictions for Election 2008

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/opinions/pages/pundit-predictions/index.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

MSNBC - Good reporting so far today.

Good segment with Craig and overall very balanced. ah it is not Rachel the Radical - it is Nora the Normal balanced one...

Mac is Back...

McCain getting his voice - But is it to late?

My wife made me canvas for Obama; here's what I learned

http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/1103/p09s02-coop.html

What do you think the fallout will be if Obama, does not win?

IHS Global Insight, a Waltham economic forecasting firm.

The firm's election equation, which has correctly forecast the popular vote winner in 13 of the past 15 presidential elections, predicts Democrat Obama will take 53.1 percent of the vote to 46.9 percent for Republican John McCain.

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/11/economic_foreca.html

I still feel,with all my heart that HRC, would have been the better Democratic Candidate.

It ain't gonna happen . Even Frank Luntz doesn't think it will.

We all know that none of these pundits, could never be wr ong. Right? Seems to me they all had HRC, losing in New Hampshire, but then she ended up Obama, by something like 20 points or more.

Howard Dean woulda been better than kerry.....at least he could scream when he had to.............

My brother canvassed for Obama in their neighborhood in Denver. He said it was a great experience, the campaign was very well organized. Their list was "sporadic voters" leaning to Obama. He said they are planning to work on election day as well.

The long lines for early voting and expected crush on election day is a good argument for electoral reform. It should be as easy as possible to register and vote. Vote by mail should be a big component -easy, cheap, paper trail.

KGC........this bus dont carry no gamblers, this bus......only bozos and the bozoly inclined........Namely members of the Loyal and Benevolent Fraternal and Sororital Order of the Crustacean........

an ancient order known mostly for its Loyalty and Benevolence......

Sturg

Welcome me aboard -- I am by birth a crustacean not to mention being pretty much of a bozo.

Ok.......it FEELS ancient.......but it's not that old, really.....say from around the sixties or so.......

Sturge-that bus move sideways?

KGC......unless I miss my mark, you is a nachal bone crustacean and a credit to the concept.......

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/trail-mixers-predict-obama-345.html#comment-167636

Fallout will be direct relationship to the subtle evil that Obama has craftily structured in his campaign

that bus move any way necessity might dictate.......

Anon

Is that the movie where Jack Nicholson says " can't we all just get along" and then the martians blow him away?

Any way who ever looses, my bet is it's the Bitch's fault

Jack

Patd----let me know when u r around.

Didn't your mother ever teach you, that BITCH, is not a nice word?

He broke the president

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rcHNZeoDCM

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/trail-mixers-predict-obama-345.html#comment-167638

I can agree with that. But I am a Democrat, and I think Obama is working out just fine.

I think Whskyjack is using irony in the "bitch" statement.

Thus, if McCain loses it is the fault of Sarah Palin.

If Obama loses, it is the fault of Hillary Clinton.

Did I get that right Jack?

Then you could say. "It's A Female's Fault." Or We could say, " Our Country, is in this shape, because of the Bastard's who have been running it."

Lampe

My mother tried to teach me a lot of things. What can I say I'm a slow learner.

As my sisters tell there children, "Thats just your Uncle Jack and no you can't grow up to be like him."

Jack

Jack -
In deed it is . Jack as the liquored-up casino promoter.

Ping's view of the Obama campagin -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBI-AXLSewE

" Our Country, is in this shape, because of the Bastard's who have been running it."

I'm good with that. only I would say stupid bastards.

Jack

by the way, "Bastard" is also an offensive moniker...

ET

You got it right. at least for certain minorities in each party.

Jack

McCain--called hillary a bitch---jack i think was saying that hillary would be blamed??--hillary has moved on, i like that she does not look back.

http://www.puma08.com/2008/10/31/three-things-the-obamedia-will-do-to-depress-gop-turnout-and-help-obama/

firesign theatre back from the shadows

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI3RylUPu60

And the Obama Camp, and it's supporters, called HRC alot worse things then "A BITCH." HRC, might be able to brush those remarks of her shoulder, but, there are still alot of PISSED-OFF Women, who are having a very hard time doing the same. And not all of them are P.U.M.A. whinners.

From the above link

Head Games Coming Your Way:
(1) Calls for McCain to just give up and quit, because the race is over. This one is a favorite of the trolls who lurk on pro-McCain sites.

The ONLY way McCain loses this race is if the media, operating as a full-fledged wing of the Obama campaign, breeds enough Eeyores amongst you to keep enough people home for Obama to squeak out wins. Hillary Clinton should have won Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Indiana, by larger margins that she did. Ohio should have been a 13-point win, Pennsylvania should have been a 12-point win, and Indiana should have been a 9-point win. Eeyores staying home, saying, “Oh bother, TV say me stay home, me sad, need dydee changed!” is what cost Hillary those extra points.

They called it the closest back in 2004

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/02/ibdtipp-obama-2-under-50/

McCain / Palin campagin -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUc3wd4It8g

What cost HRC, those points, was the Obama Camp and his supporters, branding her "A RACIST." It's real funny how easy it is for them to throw The RACE CARD, out there when it suits them.

Irony is a bitch........

firesign theatre -

Talk about the bozo bus.

Jack

Maybe this will work for the sensitive souls:

When thee gets back to thy kennel, I hope thy mother bites thee.

Jack

it looks a little slow now----been thinking about that bridge they build (is it built?) in minn, they finished it in record time of 12-14 months----the process was very impressive, as soon as they finished with the very first section of the blue prints, that part went into construction,,,,first the footing etc,,,no approval of any section of construction,,,the city could have been the ones drawing the plans but i still have to wonder about the safety of it----i know that they have large computors monitoring stress and all but still i ??? it

i read were they offered the contractor a bonus( 25 m ) for finishing ahead of time,,another concern for me?? hope the contractor had supervision 24 hrs per day-----i know that when a contractor sees a bonus of 25 m it is tempting to take short cuts-------they also sign an agreement of responsibility for shoddy work----they fined for repairs------in most if not all cases,,the contractor owns another co. that makes the repairs way above the fine that they received in the first place----at first i was impressed, but now i hope its safe in a few years?????? have any thoughts?.

SolarCrete

The devil is in the details. When California had the freeway collapse due to an earthquake, a similar contract with bonus for rapid completion was bid out. The builder collected on the bonus and it has been functioning well, but within the contract were safety, strength, and inspection details agreed to up front.

Your bridge may be a similar situation but you would need to put eyeballs on the contract to be sure.

My cousin walked into a deli.........He tells the guy, "I'll have a BLM....."
The guy says, "BLM.......what's that?"
My cousin says, "BLM........bacon, lettuce, and 'mater....."
The guy says, "Don't you mean BLT?"
My cousin snorts and says, "Hell no.....I'f I'da wanted a bacon lettuce and 'tater I'da said so......."

Jamie---thanks,,,,unless i missed something,what concerns me is the application of construction, that was done as soon as one piece of drawings came of the table,,,,,,a square ft. threshhold had to met, but was there enough time to go thru each section to make sure it met the need-----what kind of soil test were done,,etc,,,,but maybe im just in overdrive in my thinking as always---i better get it out off my mind.

Anon - Great one!

Yes and at the last Min Grandma's Music Saved the day and the Martians heads exploded!!

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/trail-mixers-predict-obama-345.html#comment-167661

Craig - Thank you for pointing to MSNBC PM - Very level headed unlike the headliners usually found on that network..

Racheal would be an impossible recovery - but we will see.
Think you can intro me to Nora?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv8vrN2W6zE

http://sarah-palin-2008.blogspot.com/2008/09/busted-video-of-fannie-mae-ceo-in-2005.html

And now no Coal? But McCain and Palin are both for Coal in states like Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Virginia, Montana, Kentucky you get the idea...those folks have jobs when the ECONOMY is bad. McCain and Palin on ENERGY independence they kind of favor keeping Coal and maybe creating more jobs by Expanding Clean Coal Production...Just sayin Realtiy bites.

lampe, as a true blue clintonista i vouch for jack's good heart if not questionable intentions. am sure he was referring to the lipsticked dog (they're not usually studs in drag you know) and to the proud holder of the appellation put forth by snl's poehler/faye.
i'm tempted to urge "forgive him for he know not what he do..... but he does. that's our jack.

And today is celebration of All Saints Day!

Blessed are those that paved the way !!

not wanting to cast aspertions or anything, just out of curiosity looked up jack in wiki. here's what they say:

A "Jack" is the name given to a male donkey/ass. A "Jack" is fertile.

~~~~one out of two ain't bad ~~~~

The KO skit was right on the money - I thought it was pretty cutting, bu he will probably indeed take it as a compliment. I was surprised they had him nail Wolfe as a nazi. wha was that about????

I 'm the lone voice here, I guess, who thought McCain looked good last night. He's pretty funny and held back from laughing at the Palin jokes.

That doesn't mean I'd want him as president.

Bethyboo... I am with you! Despite my political preference from what I saw McCain did well for himself.

I thought McCain was funny until he made that crack about permanently campaigning in Charleston, SC.....that ain't funny, mac............

http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/mccain-qvc-open/805381/

Ya know, I just don't think McCain wants to be president - I think he'd like to be called Mr President, but the work of a president..........I don't think he'd like it and that makes him even more like W, who sure as hell didn't like being the president the constitution told him he should be. For one thing, he does have fun being a talk show guest and cracking jokes.

The SNL on Olbermann is right on,,,

Keith is an ignominy and to be blunt a loser of an entertainer…

The long arm of Jack I am sure is already in touch….

And a clear contrast to what was on this afternoon.

That is why Fox KO’s - KO !

Patd,

You might want to try this book before buying the espinosa bio

Looking for espinosa,,joy sorrow, and the feeling brain, by Antonio Damasio,,,,u will find out quite a bit about espinosa, plus i think that u will like the author,,, a good 2 fer a very reasonable price.,.,let me know when u get this.thanks

Craig look it's wonkette hmmm.. I so don't miss her.

http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2008/11/02/mccain-camp-things-are-getting-tight/

Solar- did you ask about the cuban vote in Florida and see the answer?

Ping---i did, and it made sense,,,that is why i only gave Obama 302 to McCains 236 electoral votes, thanks

Bethy---nothing to say, just wanted to say hello----have u seen champ around?

Ping, isn't November 1 All Saints Day?

Other than this I like almost all you write.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiXwZI_YqHY

Golden oldie, this video has been passed around so much, and copied, and passed around somemore. I wonder how many copies there are and if there is a part of the globe that has not viewed this video. I sent it to my husband in Liberia..thats how far I have sent who knows it does make the point why would we put the fox in charge of the hen house?

The Tune is catchy Listen to the Money Talk. Get your money for nothing and your chicks for free.

Sorry about the drive-by post ... I would have loved to discuss the crazy teacher lady with you guys! LOL Had to leave but couldn't let that video go without posting the link.

ET: Thanks for the link to one of her ex students. Do you think he is for real?

Anyway, just another bizarre story for this amazing election! It will be very interesting to see what the coming days will bring.

Evening. I'm back from Traverse City. Let me say the scenery was beautiful this weekend. It was a nice drive, about 3 hours Northeast of Holland. I took a lot of pictures. I posted all of them in my Facebook page as well as posting a few on my blog.

Ree,

This is a great video that is to the point. But may be wasted on this blog - But it does put the facts in simple terms...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiXwZI_YqHY

Rez (or anyone else interested)

I did my Manic Monday post on my blog about the death of Tony Hillerman and Navajo sand painting with links to some of the beautiful art work, and a nice video of a prayer to greet the dawn.

http://jdurward.blogspot.com/

Ree-saw your u tube

Pres Bush had 8 yrs to bring up and reverse any law that pres Clinton passed,,that's what a potus should do, is to study what the last administrations have done and then change, what they think would hurt the country. 2nd pres reagan took credit for the berlin wall, knowing that other administrations also had a hand in it, but the republicans still say that he brought it down by himself,,so this is bushes mess, if we go by those standards,,,,,but the financial situation is just one of many things wrong today,,,whose fault are our other problems, from 1995 to the present is a long time to ignore??Clinton had a republican congress to help him pass laws,,,and lastly i think that both the D's and the R's are to blame,,,i hope that it is going to be diff this time around----thats all us indies, can hope for, but i kinda doubt it.thanks

Obama takes campaign battle to GOP territory

In the final weekend of a long race for the White House, Barack Obama promised to heal America's political divisions while rival John McCain fought to hold on to Republican-leaning states and pledged to score an upset.

For Obama, buoyed by record campaign donations and encouraging poll numbers, it was a time for soaring rhetoric and forays into Republican territory.

"We have a righteous wind at our back," the Democrat said Saturday.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081102/D946POKG0.html

Solar

I don't know anything about the bridge but I'm stetting next to a marketing specialist for a large engineering company so I turned to her and ask what she knew. She knew 2 things. They didn't get the contract and it was a design/ build contract. She did say that she wouldn't have been surprised if the city did bring in a geo tech firm for the site prep work before the other contract was even signed.
She also said it being a design build made it faster as every phase did have to be bid.

Jack

Solar - you know we seem to agree to a point on many things. The video Ree sent is a support of my primary point that Brain gets tired of hearing - Social policy that overruns sound fiscal policy.

And I agree fully that Bush was complacent at best - which is one of my other themes - he is weak and traded for something.

Barack is more of the same - which is most likely the point we seperate.

Jack thank u very much,,,the original story did not have the info about the geo tech firm, that threw me off right away,cos i know that the prep work is crucial----the rest makes sense thanks to your friend also

From The Times
November 3, 2008
How The Times followed a trail to find Barack Obama’s aunt

n fact, the story came from a book that has been read by millions, including just about everyone connected to the Obama campaign.

..........The only mystery, perhaps, is how so many people read Mr Obama’s book in the US without wondering what might have happened to the mysterious relative, lost in America.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article5068613.ece

i think if the country hears this interview with obama it could change a lot of predictions

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/11/02/hidden-audio-obama-tells-sf-chronicle-he-will-bankrupt-coal-industry

QUESTION??

Will the news channels tell/post/discuss

WHO wins in the East

BEFORE the West votes??

I hope not.

tt

Obama, pledges to heal political division: Well I hope he plans on starting with his own party first. Because of him , and The DNC, they managed to do something no other candidate,was ever able to achieve. They managed to tear The Democratic Party, in two. I think it is going to tak alot more than just fancy words, to bring this Party back together. And, I really hope that all these people that are supporting him ie ( Madonna, Matt Damon, Diddy, Ludacris,The Ladies of The View) and others, are the first ones in line to hand over their hard earned money, after all they have much more to tax, alot more than the everyday Joe.

Ping

whats wrong with a little of both,and tweak as needed,,,well im glad this is finally over---

On the contrary Lampe, I think Obama has brought the democrats together......I believe it is the republican party that has been split into several slivers.

Time will tell.

Obama's brief conversation with Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, and Roosevelt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6DwN-zt-24

Is S...O really X?

We have had very few Presidential commercials here in Washington. I suppose because of our blue state, but I just saw one that completely blew me away. It is so simple with sucha a simple message. If you haven't seen it, it is all pictures while Paul Simon sings American Tune

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbuLchsauKs

!!!!....!!!!....!!!!

"State-supported investment banks set BILLIONS aside for BONUSES"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/nov/03/european-bank-bonuses-executive-salaries

tt

Enough of the blood sport of politics

It's time for the really great vampires of True Blood.

Great video Jamie.

What a wonderful and identifiable voice Paul Simon has.

We have a ton here (Oh) but I do not watch much TV....the few I have seen are the really horrible ones.....all twisted and dirty, just really dumbed down and nasty. The local political races are even worse.

Nice to know what they think of the voters here in this backassward state.

it was The Democratic Party, that had two candidates,that had around 18 million votes each. The DNC, was the Party, that decided to throw one under the Bus ,for the sake of the other. It was The DNC, that allowed news stations, make comments about HRC,ie (She's a real nutcracker, I have to cross my legs when she comes into the room.) there was many many other sexist comments made, too many to list here. And did nothing to come to her rescue. But, when anyone even looks sideways at Obama, The DNC, comes charging out to his defense. The managed to ruin The Clintons, and then insist, that if Obama loses it is their fault. And Obama, has been caught making some very interesting comments about people, when he thinks they are not listening. AND Obama Supporters, some not all, have been the most hate-filled bunch of people I have ever come across. When I voted for HRC, it was because of who she was, and what she stood for, not because she was a Democrat, after she was no longer in the race, and I along with alot of others voiced our unhappiness, we were told to shut-up and just get over it. Does anyone on this blog, actually believe for one minute, had Obama, been the one not going on, his supporters, would have just gotten over it? So I am really sorry, if I seem bitter, and feel that my voice was not even considered, but this is America, and until it changes, everyone is entitled to their own view points.

Biden: At a rally in Fla. today said " Politics of division must end." Two Dozen McCain|Palin supporters were also there. Biden's words of Political Unity are as follows, " I thought it was a siren,but wait it was just a Whine."

Lampe,
I too, casted my primary vote for HIllary. She lost. It stung. But I chose to look at our country and what we needed and who was best suited of those remaining to fulfill that position......certainly when I was for Hillary, I did not agree even remotely with John McCain.....still don't.

My core beliefs didn't change, but my candidate of choice did. You have every right to express your feelings, but maybe take a moment and look at the similarities that Hillary and Barack share, instead of any differences.

Take a peek at the big picture.......I guess that is what I am suggesting.

And the first choice of Change that Obama makes is what? A White Man, Who has beeen a Senator, for longer than even John McCain. So Excuse ME, If I Don't Just GET OVER IT.

I've said several times that I didn't believe that there would be a election on November 4th. this year.

Now whether or not there is still does not take away my main premise that Bush will declare Martial Law. Until he steps down on January 20th., 2009 there is still a lot of damage he can do, including Martial Law.

And God forbid the Repug's steal another election or anything should happen to Senator Obama America could very well become the next Iraq.

I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but I still do not see Bush giving the power of the MCA of 2006 to a Democratic President. Not the power to arrest and hold indefinitely without the right to a lawyer or a court hearing to challenge his and the rest of those arrested their detentions.

Only time will tell.

Somewhere in America there is an empty couch.

How could you even support someone, who accuses people in his own Party, of being RACIST, simply because they do not agree with him?

Lampe - You probably don't know it but many many here, women and men, basically agree with you, and it was a blood bath here for a long time

Those of us who were HRC supporters haven't necessarily got over it (or so it seems,altho I can't really speak for them), but most of us seem to have decided that Obama is the one runningand the one with the chance to keep McCain out of the White House.

My own reason for voting against McCain is to keep the Supreme Court from being an adjunct of the republican party. They have politicized half of the executive branch and could own the Court, and make Rove's dream of a permanent republican majority come true. Roe v Wade would be gone and churches would be able to write laws. I could live with a lot but not that.

So know that you're not alone, but the fight was barbaric as I'm sure you can imagine. Some people you cannot say the truth to.

Please explain to me, how my not wanting to support Obama, because I don't feel he is the right person for the job right now, is any different then AA's saying "If Obama doesn't win, it will be The Clinton's fault, and that Blacks would never vote for her, if she ran anything ever again?

Jamie...

Thanks for posting that commercial spot. I hadn't seen it yet on tv. It's beautifully done. My fingers are crossed that Tuesday evening will bring the news so many of us want to hear....

Lampe,

You don't have to get over it. You don't. Just continue how you are feeling now and if it accomplishes your goals, you are on the correct track. Life is funny that way.

peace~

Republican Party = The American Taliban.

ciao everyone- might go see Sarah in the morning if I don't over sleep......(just for the fun of it.)

Obama/Biden 2008......it's possible. :)

Bethy...

There is no better reason to support Obama than the potential damage that could be done if ANY Republican is allowed to appoint the next several Supreme Court justices! That is the force that drives my vote.

So your voting against McCain, because of some law that was enacted over 40 years ago? And If a woman, is not considered good enough to run this country, that's okay, as long as she has the right to have an Abortion? I'm sorry, but I consider myself more important then just my reproductive system.

I have to think of something larger than hurt feelings.
There is far too much at stake in this country and the world to vote for four more years of George W. Bush and the Republicans. By his own admission Senator McCain says he has voted with Bush 90 % of the time. If you believe the status quo is fine than by all means vote for the man.

Everything in this country is in ruins and a vote for McCain is a vote to keep doing what we are doing and expecting a different result is delusional.

It is true that Obama wasn't my first choice but at this time in our history he is the ONLY choice.

And even after , hopefully , Obama wins, there will always be those b*chting and moaning over the past......."crying over spilled milk" as they say.

What a waste of energy.

Lampe - I wouldn't call it PRO -OBAMA, but I will say that most of us want him to win.

Basically, we all like to converse and share ideas, and this is a very tense time with the election so close. But there are some here who are not interested in your feelings or ideas - by and large we have learned to skip their posts. Some of us call them Knotheads, and we enjoy the rest here so much that we are willing to pretend they don't exist. Don't give up too soon.

And it's not just because of Roe v Wade - there are decisions to be made in the future, too.

Lampe - see what I mean?

final list posted on the predictions page (thanks to all for playing):

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/election-predictions.html

Lampe,,this is the first and only blog that i have been involved with,,these good people are caring---i find my self talking about (and i talk a lot) anything that i want to ,and i have said that it is good therapy for me, at a cheap price,,,,i think that u won't find another as fine,,,stick around and talk about something other than politics,,,it will be over in a cpl of days,,don't let what is going to happen or not happen hurt u, nothing wrong with being passionate,but u have to take care of yourself, don't mean to tell u what to do,u pick what u want, but once u do don't be surprised that some have a diff idea than yours,,i see that even the ones that agree with each other, have differences and express them at sometime or other.Lampe what else u got other than anger huh show me, if that all u can't win no matter what,thanks

Lampe--

Just some thoughts to you. I know how you felt about Hillary. I don't know if it's possible to have wanted Hillary to win any more than I did. While I did not know her personally, I had been in very close proximity to her several times while she was first lady of Ark. as I do alot of work there in various public events that were attended by the Clintons. I was always impressed by her. She was someone I not only admired but, I felt a kinship with her in many ways. As a professional woman my self having experienced the glass ceiling and all of the nice little jabs that go with it, what Hillary went through in the primary cut me to ribbons. The night of the Indiana primary Hillary knew in her heart where the tide was going, I saw it in her eyes and on Bill's face. I was devastated.

I stopped posting here for a long time, and told myself I would not contribute, nor would I work for the Democratic party ever again. But in the end I have worked harder for Obama than I ever have any other Pres. Candidate, and I have contributed more money to him than anyone before.

The reason is because I look at my ten year old little girl, and I am afraid for her future. I am very concerned about the world that will be left her. I know how important this election is and how devastating ANY more years of republican rule would be. To me it isn't even about me. Or how I feel, or how pissed off and hurt I was. It is about getting a better world for my child, and there is no doubt in my mind which candidate will even try to provide that for her.

Just look in your heart and find out what is important to you. You'll know what's up.

Doubts persist about Obama birth certificate

Considerable evidence still points to candidate's birth in Kenya

"The issue of the authenticity of Obama's original birth certificate is further muddied by communications from Sen. Obama's half-sister, Maya Soetoro, who has claimed Obama was born in two different Hawaii hospitals.

In a November 2004 interview with the Rainbow Newsletter, Maya told reporters her half-brother Sen. Barack Obama was born on Aug. 4, 1961, at Queens Medical Center in Honolulu; then in February 2008, Maya told reporters for the Honolulu Star-Bulletin that Obama was at the Kapiolani Medical Center for Women and Children.

Last week in Hawaii, WND retained a top private investigator with extensive FBI training and tasked with visiting both the Queens Medical Center and the Kaliolani Medical Center to investigate claims that Obama birth certificates existed at either hospital.

But the private investigator reported that on Thursday and Friday of last week, sheriff's deputies were stationed at both hospitals to fend off press inquiries about Obama's birth certificate."

http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=79900

If you like cherries....this is the place for you. I bought some jam and salsa here. I also bought a bottle of their cherry conservancy wine at their wine store this weekend.

http://www.cherryrepublic.com/

Lampe...

Not sure if your comments re: voting because of our reproductive systems and/or rights were directed to me or Bethy, but my decision to vote Obama in large part because I want him to make the next few Supreme Court nominations actually has little to do with Roe v. Wade. It has far more to do with what I hope we will see in the relationship between business and the majority of Americans. The balance right now has swung to favor business over the citizenry in some very negative ways, IMO, and I hate to see that. Business (and I primarily mean BIG business) has a great deal of money, which unfortunately translates into power over the citizenry when you have a government that is willing to sell itself to you for campaign contributions. If McCain goes into the presidency, he will be surrounded by many of the same supporting cast of characters we've seen these past eight years. In a word...gaaaack! They have already appointed SC justices and agency heads who are willing to turn away from the common good and away from science in order to push the wishes of their donor corporate interests. I really, really want to see that come to an end!

I understand your concern, for your little girl, really I do: But, how is her seeing and hearing the things that are being said about HRC, and Gov. Palin, going to make things better for her? Is it fair, for men, to just decide, that a women, is good enough, to be a Senator, or a Mayor, or even a Governor, but she is not good enough to be POTUS. And I think what has really surprised me, more then anything, is the way other women, are talking about them. I've grown-up knowing that alot of men, don't think women,are capable of doing their jobs, but I have never witnesses the nastiness for women before, like I have during this Election. As I women, I am more concerned about how this will look to others, when they see one women, bashing another women, just because she is not what they think she should be. How can we ever expect men to respect us, and level the playing fields, when women, aren't even to respect each other?

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/trail-mixers-predict-obama-345.html#comment-167772

harbor
What a very good comment.I had not even looked at my vote for Obama in the way your looking at yours!! Thanks,i feel even better regarding my vote....

PUMA. In the long term, the Chicago phalangists have done more to cause harm to the Democratic Party than anything in recent memory. They've recreated it in an image of the highly structured Republican organizations of the past. I give it four years before it starts collapsing.

Lampe

I see things developing as a process. Hillary has set a new standard for women and their expectations that is huge. It is always a process of development when you are talking about societal change. Nothing happens overnight. She put the bar high for the next qualified woman. She showed them her grit and spine of steel. I don't think there are many, like her or not, who will take those things away from her.

Notice I said QUALIFIED woman. I do not consider Palin qualified to run for dogcatcher. She is absolutely an insult to Hillary and everything she stood for. Palin should not even be put in the same league as her. I think people make fun of her because she invites it with how she presents herself with all of winking and wholly unprofessional manner in which she conducts herself. There isn't anything to her. I guarantee you that most, if not all of the strong women on this blog, would completely destroy her if we were left in the same room with her for a very long period of time.

Elections are for the most part nasty, like it or not. Look at all the nasty things you read about what candidates are doing to each other. Hillary knows this, and she moved on. Because she still has a future. She will still be around doing her good work. And qualified women everywhere will be looked at a bit different because of her.

Very interesting:

"The Gay Mafia That's Redefining Liberal Politics"

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1854884-1,00.html

*applause*

tt

Truebeliever...
Funny - I think I would turn it on Barack if only for a 30 min time period with no preconditions. You know the same rules he drives as he thinks he can handle anyone.
So why has he ducked and been unavailable and only spouts the same few points?

Because it is a smart campaign - as the truth of Barack would be very problematic.

We are voting for the President -

I am so happy that the kool-aide has made the rounds and all have forgotten the events -- what a "Movement"

Which Barack are you voting for?

What about JF? I think she set the standard long ago.
And for women to dump on Sarah Palin in the manner of your post -
Give me a break -
I warn my daughters that the worst enemy to their future is their fellow women

GF not JF... Geraldine Ferraro
the other points stand

meow

Flatus - I couldn't agree with you more. The machine has grabbed a stranglehold for a while, but it won't last.

ETom - Updates on the Prop 8 campaign:

We are seeing new ads re Prop 8 - a pix of Obama and a statement the he is opposed to Prop 8. Also, a pix of Arnie with a statement of his opposition.

Then it turns out that Steve Young, former Niner qb, has signs in his windows and on his law in opposition to Prop 8. Of course, he's Mormon but recently a big group of Mormons wrote a letter to their church arguing to stop Prop 8. The Youngs also gave $50,000 to the campaign against it. Seeing as how I am a fervent Montana fan and disliker of Young, I can't say I believe he deserves the credit for it as his wife's name is coming up more than his. But if he does deserve the credit, it'll be the first thing I give him credit for. HA - but I do mean it.

The ugly story is that Jeff Kent, former Giant and now Dodger, is apparently saying he's for Prop 8 and gave $,500. When he was a giant, he was a constant agitator of Barry Bonds, also a trouble maker, but Kent openly talked about it, so I'm not surprised he's so small-minded.

Ugly ugly thing from Palo Alto - police chief told her officers that if they saw any AA's, they should have sonsensual contact with them. She says it's not profiling, tho I have no idea how she comes to that conclusion. It's hard to believe.

When we passed the signs for Holland on our way in and out we thought of you and wished you well.

While up north we weren't online, watched only about 5 hours of TV and had a refreshing break from politics as we have no preferred candidate since Hillary lost the primary.

We found there to be about an equal amount of signs and bumber stickers for Obama & McCain wherever we travelled in northern MI but only saw 2 O and 2 Mc stickers on cars on our 1000 mile trip home thru MI, OH, PA, MD, DC and VA. Thought that was unusual compared to other election years.

Here in eastern NC folks in our town who usually have signs in their yards have none this year and I don't see many in the area. Our county is 66% AA and we thought there would be more Obama signs but we've actually seen more McCain signs. Perhaps they didn't supply our county with signs for O as they figured they had the votes without them and they could be better used elsewhere.

Craig and all posters:

Missed reading all your comments this past month and look forward to seeing where the blog rolls after the election. Whatever the results on Tues. night, (or Wed. or next week or month) I hope all the trailmixers and those who lurk here will enjoy good health, meaningful relationships, financial security, and peace of mind during the next four years and beyond despite politics!

PS Craig,

May I suggest the State Theater in Traverse City as a place for you to speak. Michael Moore had a lot to do with its renovation and its a site used for his Film Festival there. I think you'd draw a large crowd and have an interesting time visiting the area.

I don't understand how anyone can say Gov. Palin, isn't qualified. She has been a Mayor, and a Governor. What has either Obama, or HRC, done that even comes close to that? She has balanced budgets,ran towns and states, why has Obama ran? And please don't say a good campaign, because we all know Alexrod ran that campaign. So, if your saying Gov. Palin, is not Qualified to be either POTUS, or V.P. then there is no way in HELL, Obama is qualified.

My comment didn't post my first try and somehow when I cut and pasted the first part of my comments didn't copy. Sorry! This is why I don't post more often!

My comment was for Corey - We just got back from a month in MI and spent a lot of time in Traverse City. We brought back 4# of dried black sweet cherries. Read your blog and it seems we travelled a lot of the roads you were on this weekend. Enjoyed hearing about your trip as it brought back pleasant memories.