Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

congrats sheila!

reposting my q and a from last thread:

will daschle's wife and the spice of the other cabinet nominees make the same promises of disclosure and pre-approval of speeches that the dawg has made? you betcha not.

Congratulations, Sheila

PatD,

You're right that the others won't have to make the same promises, but it's an apples and oranges thing, or maybe it's more appropriate to say: a lion vs. house cats. You could de-claw the house cats, but with the lion you'd better pull some teeth.

and he'd better hold on to that list until the ink is dry on the confirmation.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2008-11-19/whos-funding-the-pirates/

patsi, now why does that not surprise me.

Patd -- No that news makes sense...and I have to wonder what all else is being funded there....

(RE: numbers -- good call, Sheila)

patd

Remember this is all rumor, based on gossip from people who either have an agenda, or who are so pathetic that they want to prove how close they are to power.
As is there is nothing we can do about it except to ask
"who saddled this tiger and why are we the ones riding it"

So grab a holt, put the spurs to that beast and give us a loud YeeeeeHaw.

Jack

Jack

Patd -- more pirates in LA Times...

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-highseas20-2008nov20,0,4580786.story

(I'm obsessed with the pirate story...)

Hail to the Chef.... Cue Presidential music... da ta ta da ....

Patsi

This question from the comment on the money link, is the one that needs to be explored.

I"t would be great to read more about this subject and find out exactly what the pirates are doing with these funds and who they are going to."

Jack

Is it Ironic - Held hostage over oil !

We have come so far.....

Congrats to Sheila. (So, now can you tell if were the Mayans right? Will the world end in Dec of 2012? If so, Newt & Huckabee can quit worrying about Sarah Palin.)

Congrats to Iceland. The Danes, Swedes, Fins and Norwegians just gave them a multi-billion dollar bailout.

Here's my idea for the auto industry: Fire the top 25 people in management in each company. They probably make more than the rest of the combined workforce. T

hen, replace them with more competent people, if a position actually needs to be filled and isn't superfluous, pay them less and make them accountable. If the company does well, maybe they get a nice bonus.

Last, go to the unions and tell 'em sorry, but....your insurance premiums are gonna go up a bit, your co-pays are gonna go up a bit, you're gonna have to pay a bit more for perscriptions, the pension plan isn't going to be so rich, and, no pay raises but merit-based bonuses just like management.

They don't need a bailout, they need some common sense...or just a greed intervention. That would be interesting: The top management of the "big 3" in Dr. Drew's rehab facility. Oh, the DTs they will have giving up their private jets.

I think Whole Foods pays its top person a max of 400% of what an entry level person makes. It sounds like a lot, but do the math starting with ten bucks an hour...it seems reasonable.

Navies May Get Tougher on Piracy After Tanker Seizure

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aAPIFp6jvOOA&refer=home

Here is something to feed the adiction , Patsi

Jack

Sheila...... congrats!
I was screaming and cheering frantically as you crossed the finish line....... :0)

I treat all this stuff about who's getting what job in Obama's cabinet exactly the same way as I played the electoral college count game..... I sit in the stands, enjoy the show, and cheer the winner......
I see no point in getting worked up about who gets what..... it'll either work out or it won't......

More job cuts in the auto industry...but it's never the guys at the top who get cut, is it?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081120/ap_on_bi_ge/eu_britain_rolls_royce_jobs

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081120/ap_on_bi_ge/eu_france_peugeot_citroen

*PS - It was good to see Fluffy Carlson, again. I miss him. Since MSNBC has a revolving-door policy, I think a non-left person like Carlson probably needs some airtime, again. Maybe a Tucker sorbet to cleanse the tastebuds between the KO and Maddow.

Subject: Useless BS

Jack -- Which Pirate are You Test lol

http://helloquizzy.okcupid.com/tests/the-find-your-pirate-personality-test

"Navies May Get Tougher on Piracy After Tanker Seizure"

Send in the subs...

my name is bond, jamie bond

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/nov/20/terrorism-ethnic-minorities-mi6

Looks like Obama better claim to be Muslim or he will be facing Jihad! I guess they don't care who's in charge of our country. I have changed my mind on the big 3 bailout. I talked to management about it at work last night. They didn't think it was a good idea. The big 3 need to change, giving them money wouldn't force them to change. They also brought up something I hadn't thought about. When gas was over $4 a gallon, people wanted to buy new cars that got better gas mileage. Now, gas prices have dropped. People don't need to buy more fuel efficient cars now. Also, banks aren't lending money to people right now, so nobody is buying cars for that reason as well. Another problem for the big 3. They did announce that we are going to be getting quarterly bonuses again at work. That was a shocking announcement. Also, today marks my 13th anniversary at work. Time flies.

oops, left out quote:

The proportion of women in top jobs in the domestic Security Service, MI5, has been running at about 50%.

So...when is Obama gonna pick some Washington outsiders for his cabinet positions? Bring some change to Washington? Anyone? Bueller?

Lawsuit forces eHarmony to offer gay dating services. Can't wait for those commercials!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081119/us_nm/us_gay_marriage_eharmony

patsi, need another fix?

here's an old discussion on pirate history by bbc:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A9734682

"A 'pirate' was someone who preyed on ships of every nation. He owed allegiance to no country and worked only for his own profit.

'Privateers' were legally sanctioned pirates. They were commissioned by a government to attack the enemies of that nation. They were often given a document called a Letter of Marque, which was official authorisation to attack enemy ships. Technically a privateer could not be prosecuted as a pirate because he was protected by international law...."

so are these new guys pirates or privateers by bbc's definitions?

Corey

Your management is under the belief, a restructured auto industry means more work for them as the big three outsource more of their production. What they forget is once the unions are busted there is no reason to keep the jobs in the US. Send them to China.

Jack

good idea in prior thread re making oil co.s with their obscene profits bail-out auto co.s...
how 'bout also giving them or anyoneelse tax credits/deductions matching any $$ going toward successful fuel efficient or alternative fueled products.

Well, we are picking up more business because other suppliers are going under. But, my company is also involved in other things. Batteries and heating and cooling systems. We are more divirsified, not as dependent as suppliers who only deal with car companies. The big 3 outsource a lot of work to suppliers, but if the suppliers start to struggle, somebody has to take over for them. They said our plant in Mexico was doing the same thing to other companies in Mexico.

Patsi

I tried taking the test. I got up to question 32 before I grabbed me cutlass and looked for the man who created the test , soz I could keelhaul em.

A pirate don't answer no 32 stinkin questions, 8 maybe 10 at the most.

Jack

HA! It did drag on....I hung with it and turned out to be Yellow Beard the Insane....

Patsi....
I took the pirate test....

but for the results they want some personal info and your email address.....
I didn't give it to them.....

"Well, we are picking up more business because other suppliers are going under"

Corey
That sounds good for you. Looks as if your company is well positioned. There is going to be a shakeout in the industry. What ever happens the Auto industry is going to have to reduce production by 20% next from what I've read. So a lot of your competitors won't be there next year.

BTW the reduction will also take place in the dealership end. look for a many empty lots as dealers go out of business.

Jack

Lady to young pirate trick-or-treater at her front door:

If youre a pirate, where's your buccaneers??

They're under my buccan HAT.......

mornin' all.

Corey - there's good and bad in every bailout - I agree that the Big 3 have to change, but I am not sure that denying the backbone, or what used to be the backbone of our manufacturing industry an infusion of cash that they claim is necessary to survive without filing bankruptcy is the right approach, particularly in light of the unfettered discretion they gave Paulson to aid the financial industry (a colossally stupid mistake). I certainly don't believe that giving them the money they ask for in the form of a loan from money already appropriated for them is the right approach. Understand that if they go the bankruptcy route, the one thing that will not happen is that their creditors, such as your employer, will not be paid dollar for dollar on any outstanding debts owed them, and likely will result in a reduction of services tot he automakers, and a consequent reduction in workforce. Might not happen, but if i was a bettin' man, that would be my bet.

Does Detroit need to change? You bet. Do they need relief from the union contracts that fix their labor costs above the market and make their cars noncompetitive with foreign-procuced cars? That's one way to approach the problem - and for you union supporters out there, bet that will happen - it's a sure thing. But what they really need is management that anticipates consumer wants and responds with products that are appealing and with comparable quality at comparable prices.

Oh, and my best to Uncle Ted. hahahahah

sturg, you're just a buccan rotten kid at heart.

"but for the results they want some personal info and your email address..... "

Arrrrgh, them would be pirates of the worst kind.

Keelhaulin would be too good fer the likes a them. Stringem up by their guts and let the crows feed on them, I say.

Jack

Congratulations to Sheila. I read somewhere on the previous thread that she was Craig s first commenter.

Bumpy Road Ahead for a Traveler
"He has been running toward it for years, maybe his whole adult life, and suddenly he has arrived. And what he discovers is that inside his new cocoon of Secret Service protection, the presidency of the United States is a very lonely job.

.....He has always been on his way elsewhere, in a journey of discovery and self-actualization that may be unmatched in American political history. And now he is at the doorstep of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue....Obama plays on a different stage now, and it's less forgiving.

... then there's the incredible shrinking vice president-elect, Joe Biden. Where is he these days? Do they have him in a box? ....

........ you have to believe that a man who can smile while his wife lovingly, genially puts him in his place is a pretty sane guy. In this transition time, when the traveler is finally about to reach his destination, that's reassuring."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/19/AR2008111903532.html

" for the results they want some personal info and your email address.....
I didn't give it to them....."

AH! I have an "identity" on that site -- hopefully, my answers are not going to the FBI! I could be in trouble....

I thought they should get a bail out, now I'm not sure. We'll see what happens. BTW, they said our sales are down 10-12% so far.

Well Thank You Craig. lol you think you could have gotten that picture a little bigger? Geez...

Thanks everybody. Now lets get this endless SecState drill over with.

The Glass Ceiling Holds Strong
"It is time to stop kidding ourselves. This wasn't a breakthrough year for American women in politics. It was a brutal one.

Yet American women are a majority of the population and a majority of the electorate. They earn more than half the bachelor's and master's degrees, a level of educational achievement far exceeding that of women in developing countries. There must be some reason we don't do any better than women in impoverished, rural regions of the world where cultural norms oppress women.

Maybe it is because our culture isn't so different after all."
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/11/the_glass_ceiling_holds_strong.html

Corey, that doesn't seem consistent with picking up more business as other suppliers go under. Probably a reflection of the inverse of a rising tide lifts all ships.. What I see is a rudderless appraoch to the economy by the admin and congress. It's stupid.

For another interesting article on pirates(oops)

I mean lobbyist

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aEZoCjCjrYDE&refer=home

"Now, with Obama ready to take office in January, lobbyists aren't quavering with fear. Many view the changed political landscape in Washington as a potential boon for their firms, which will be called upon to help clients navigate Congress and a new administration"

"Daschle has been able to serve as an Obama campaign adviser because he wasn't registered as a lobbyist, though his firm earned $3.5 million this year lobbying for the health industry.........................

.................................The health industry accounted for 60 percent of the firm's lobbying revenue during the first nine months of 2008"

Jack

I'm sick of the endless SoS BS as well. The press will never allow it to work. Cable News will continue to try to re-impeach Bill Clinton and question everything Hillary does.

She "could" be one of the most effective heads of State in history, but the press and netroots will hammer away. And in the process of trying to finish her off, they'll damage O's presidency.

I've liked Napolitano since the Anita Hill days....

A New Wind Is Blowing in Chicago

"SO long, Crawford, Tex. Even before President-elect Barack Obama takes office in 61 days, effectively crowning Chicago as the site of the Western White House, the city is basking in a moment of triumph that is spilling well beyond the confines of politics.

Michelle Obama’s mother is moving to Washington. (No, she is not living in the White House.) So Malia, 10, and Sasha, 7, aren’t alone, a family that lives near the Obama home in Hyde Park is also moving, so the girls have built-in friends in the new world surrounding them."
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/20/fashion/20chicago.html?_r=1&ref=politics

Time for me to get some work done. :)

Congratulation to Chef Sheila

and tooooooo bad for Missouri no longer the bellwether state

" a family that lives near the Obama home in Hyde Park is also moving, so the girls have built-in friends in the new world surrounding them."

This is odd. Moving now by accident or design?

Congrats to Sheila, although I still stand by my 538-0 prediction. LOL!

Patsi, by design.

I was hoping for an opinion from you on the glass ceiling article - your take on it. I'll catch up with the comments later.

Patsi,

I could be wrong by this, but my gut says Clinton has got SecState. Former President Clinton would not be going to all this trouble to vet his donor list.

could be wrong.

KGC!!! Good to see you and see happy! lol SWAK!

Was a long two years.

Bush's withered heart.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/washington/AP-Jobless-Benefits.html

Stupid bastard.

Ping

The original Hail to the Chief was set to music by James Sanderson using words by Sir Walter Scott in "The Lady of the Lake" .

The Marine band first played the song to entertain John Quincy Adams, but was first used to introduce James K. Polk. This was suggested by Julia Tyler wife of Polk's predecessor.

Albert Gamse wrote new lyrics for the song though they are seldom sung. In case you want to practice for a sing along:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSegQ9gGFbc

Hail to the Chief we have chosen for the nation,
Hail to the Chief! We salute him, one and all.
Hail to the Chief, as we pledge cooperation
In proud fulfillment of a great, noble call.

Yours is the aim to make this grand country grander,
This you will do, that's our strong, firm belief.
Hail to the one we selected as commander,
Hail to the President! Hail to the Chief!

dog, all those caveats make sense if significant money is to be made available to the Big 3, but it is beginning to look like all that is academic.

Sheila, good guess. :-)

chloe, thanks for the first family news. is this the article you saw it in?

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/20/fashion/20chicago.html?ref=fashion&pagewanted=print

Congrats, Sheila.........first O supporter and correct predictor of the votes......you're on a roll.......

Pogo

Bring in the Chinese,
If the Auto makers want to get the congress off the pot, they need to enter into negotiations with the Chinese for a ownership stake in the company. GM shold start doing it today. Quit begging play a little hard ball.

Jack

wonder if the chef mentioned in the times article i posted is going to be the new white house chef and if that's the family that's providing the built-in friends for malia and sasha.

"....Rick Bayless, a friend of the Obama family, who owns Frontera Grill and is among the city’s celebrity chefs...."

Also, negotiations with the Chinese would also put the UAW on notice.

Jack

WHy Thank you Sturg, I'm touched. ;0)

I think Sebilious should be EPA.

A toast to the winner -- Chef Sheila

I knew you would have the right recipe!

meet rick

http://www.rickbayless.com/about/meetrick.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/17/ed-hill-leaves-fox-news-c_n_144513.html

E.D. Hill to leave Fox - I hope she ends up doing personal interest pieces at a 100 watt t.v. station in rural Idaho.

Jack, that might be their next move. I'm betting there's more than one Chinese company that would have an interest - and don't leave out Korean and Indonesian investors.

patd

Rick Bayless is probably way to rich and famous to become the White House chef, but he might be acting as an advisor.

http://www.rickbayless.com/

Given her good taste in candidates, overall expertise in statistics, and choice of career, I think Chef Sheila should do another tour in the White House as soon as her mother's health permits.

Thanks Jamie,

I woild love to be the Personal Chef of the five who exist there.

Rick Bayless is a great guy! But the White House needs a very versitile Executive Chef who knows Garde Manger as well as a host of world tastes and presentation.

Bayless is fantasitc and my favorite chef and mentor in Mexican cuisine.

But I bet one of our certified Master Chefs get the nod eventually.

I would also (said this before) like to see an African American in the White House. there hasn't been one yet.

Pogo

I had better shut up before I talk myself into this.

A foreign infusion of cash gives GM the freedom to make the changes they need. They are going to have to do some major restructuring in the next year. Plants are going to be closed and congress critters are not going to be happy about it.
One of their major problems of asking congress for help is they can not be honest about their plans for political reasons.

As I read the link dog posted what keep popping into my mind, you can sure tell this is a business reporter and not a political one.

Jack

Sources: Pritzker, Napolitano being vetted
CNN - 1 hour ago
(CNN) -- Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano is President-elect Barack Obama's top choice for homeland security secretary,....

"I can see Mexico from my front porch" (from the Imus in the Morning Show)

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/trail-mix-predictorinchief-ann.html#comment-175404

Sheila,

Do you know of one you would suggest, just in case they are looking for names.

I've only met two wonderful black chef's and one was an expert in Louisiana Soul food and the other in French cuisine, but not on the level your talking about.

The soul food guy a hole in the wall kind of building in a huge parking lot in Westwood. It was all take out orders over a counter (You carried your own food as far as the tables set up in the parking lot). Too die for food and and incredible ambience as chaufferued limos parked next to Fords that looked like escapees from destruction derby.

Interesting article Chloe... thanks for posting the link. I personally can't imagine why ANYONE would want that job. Presidents age so quickly in office!

All the Hillary Clinton bashing in the media now is frustrating me. The media attacks the "drama" that surrounds the Clintons, but mostly it is the media that creates it. And I am also a bit frustrated with Hillary, DECIDE ALREADY! It's not helping her image to be "wavering", and I don't think it helps the new administration. She should just say "I accept" or "I respectfully decline" and be done with it.

I was totally for Hillary being SOS, but I am so turned off by the media reporting that I've come to believe she'd do better in the Senate. Working with Ted Kennedy on Universal Health Care would be a wonderful task, and she knows the issue thoroughly. Her past experience would help also, as she will know what pitfalls to avoid...

Just my thoughts.

ET

Hillary has already tentatively accepted. She can't "formally" accept until a "formal" offer is tendered.
The Clinton's wouldn't have subjected to the vetting unless they thought it was a serious offer that she was willing to accept.

This really is a complete media, commentator, and staff driven rumor mill, and it is disgusting ... another chance for the Clinton haters to load up and fire. I swear there are members of litter rotten that won't be happy until the whole family is six feet under.

It even bothered Chris Matthews last night and that is going some.

I'm off to work. But before I do.

I know from my readings that the Obama's really watch what they eat. Obama does a lot of Meatless meals, although he's not meatless.

I'd say Daniel Young is the best in this country. Most African American Chefs who are not doing just soul food are just too young.

Look for a certified Master Chef like Walter Shieb's (greenbrier fame and Clinton White House Chef) ilke.

But Private Chef, may I have a snack for midnight type, will be a low fat, very healthy signature cook, I bet.

Thanks Jamie... I didn't realize she had accepted (tentatively). !!!

"I personally can't imagine why ANYONE would want that job."

Tom, I couldn't agree with you more.
...........................................

I'm curious, and was taking a look to see if I could find what family would be moving to Washington with the Obama's - no luck - but ran across this earlier story (which incorrectly said Michelle:s mother would move into the White House). I was only interested in the part that talked about how much Michelle and Barak had depended on her mother, and how important she is to the girls. I'm not surprised, but it's nice to know.

"Robinson's main job during Barack Obama's two-year-long campaign for the presidency was to make sure the Obamas' young daughters, Malia and Sasha, were taken care of while mom and dad were on the campaign trail. According to a Boston Globe article from early this year, duties included upholding family rules (8:30 p.m. bedtime, healthy food) and getting the girls to the appointments on their daily schedules.... "
http://newsguru.newsvine.com/_news/2008/11/14/2113006-michelle-obamas-mother-to-move-into-white-house

and written even earlier, this one which talks about other personal family issues:

First family moving to Washington
"a source involved in the transition also says the Obamas plan to send their daughters to a private school in D.C., maybe Georgetown Day School or Maret School.....Michelle Obama has said being “mom-in-chief” will be her top priority in the White House."
http://www.mlive.com/us-politics/index.ssf/2008/11/first_family_moving_to_washing.html

Sheila,

Congrats...at some point i need a tip on how to butterfly a chicken breast in such a way so i can pound it thin and make a proper chicken kiev...

As for the pirates talk...if I were a baseball fan, I would demand that the head pirate be immediate be brought in to run the Pittsburgh Pirates. This way they can sniff a winning record. Otherwise, I would take a couple of cargo ships and load them with radar guided gatling guns that can spray 3K rounds per minute...send them out as bait and just light up every pirate boat that got close.

M Moore's take on the GM debacle, interesting:

"Eventually, the consumer got smart," Moore continued, "so they started to buy other cars. General Motors still wouldn't change. They still kept building the wrong cars, and more and more people stopped buying them."

story/video: Larry King

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/11/20/lkl.michael.moore/index.html

to the point raised about Sheila as first comenter, that could well be. Sheila was certainly among the first, and such a help in keeping things civil that we dubbed her the Hall Monitor in those days. Wish i could find out for sure. But as longtimers know, i accidentally blasted the archive on our first blog at blogspot, begun in 2005. (This is why we should all be grateful that CQ handles the tech side of this one, instead of me.)

So, like the Bible, we will have to rely on verbal tradition to retell the stories of those fateful early days.

Craig, I would love to have that honor,

But as I have said before, that first day of your blog, a woman named "Jackie" has all really gotten there before me. We had the first few days and then Madmustard and Marisa came on the seen and then Kathy, Colleen, Cbob and so on.

I wonder what happened to Sophia was it? She had a major crush on you.

Bear! Good to see you alive and kicking! I was starting to fear the pirates had carried you off.

Bear....
good to see you.... I was thinking about you yesterday and the fact you hadn't posted in awhile...... I hope all is going well with you....

Craig.... I don't remember if Sheila was actually first.... but she was most definitely one of the first....

my story of the "early days"...... I remember a hurricane that hit several posters here in Florida that first summer.... we lost AJ.... but eventually got back pissed-off-patricia and trial-lawyer-rich.....

....Sophia,,,,,,I bet you disaponted here with your interest in Ann Coulter. If I remember right you said Coulter was a major hottie for a while there. lol

trail mixer copying our venerable history:

http://www.herbsociety.org.uk/schools/factsheets/pictures/monk2.gif

Just saw on MSN- this years car show and GM and Chrysler didn't even show.
Sheila-congrats! on your bragging rights. You beat Chuck Todd.

Congrads Miss Sheila..... Good for U! I didn´t participate, but I surely would have been wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy off..... :-)

On another note, I received a B for defence of the dissertation. I was way too nervous and I stumbled on one important question... But, it´s over and now I am looking forward to just doing NOTHING!

Farewell Sen. Stevens. If you miss us, we will be right here, conversing and pontificating through a series of tubes.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081120/ap_on_go_co/senate_stevens

Bear,

Here is video of what you requested. I'm going to put it up on facebook for you too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqjfQP3Mp2k

Enjoy the chicken Kiev and remember, I could explain it, but Moving pictures are better. ;0)

ah.... Sheila answered the question....

Sheila.... remember the elderly lady from the Las Vegas area (Henderson) that posted as BJ..... you said some little innocuous thing and she got so upset that not only did she leave..... she deleted every posting she ever made on the blog.....

I think she showed up here during the primaries as a Hillary supporter..... I asked her if she was "that BJ".... but she never responded to me.....
I mean how many elderly women living in Henderson Nevada posting as BJ can there be...... ;)

Waxman takes over energy...that should be a signal.

Just saw on MSN- this years car show and GM and Chrysler didn't even show.

Maybe, hopefully, NASCAR bites the dusts.

I wonder how many recipes we lost on those old blogs?

Blue,

How long have you been commenting as a Crawford Lister? You, Sheila, Corey, CBob, Marisa, Julia, 9/11 (off the top of my head) were already on when I arrived on the scene almost three years ago.

Also POP was around. I love her blog, but wish she would drop by here every once in a while.

Jason -- Glad you are finished and can head home for Thanksgiving!!

I don't know. What would we do with 3 million drunk and BORED red-necks? At least NASCAR keeps 'em off the streets for a while.

lol@rosie

Renee,

how could I forget BJ. She said some very insulting things to quite a few people. One of them being Colleen and another being Pop! I just asked her to clean it up and stop being rude and basically respect the others on the blog. She gor really mad. She got very upset and DID erase everything.

I even wrote to her a few times and ask her to come back.

Wow! A LOT of Recipes on that old blog!

Especially dnd's desire for recipes that use Chilis

Now all the names are starting to come back. RR, dnd,

Sheila, that video you posted is next to several stuffed chicken recipes. I'm going to have a lot of fun trying them out.

jamie - I don't recall when I started posting. I lurked for quite awhile before I got up the nerve to post. I remember pOp & sheila welcoming me...it's all a little fuzzy now.

I just remember Craig & KO in Herald Sq for the 2004 GOP convention & Craig saying to look for McCain to say something odd/eerie..and pretty soon, Craig had a book & a blog & voila...

Will there be a 2009 to-do after the markets correct themselves and we're back in the black?

Oh well, I guess Junior would look pretty good in a Hyundai or Susuki. rofl.

...and I do believe the Fritz was already posting pretty early on.

Sheila.... yeah.... I remember her as being kinda "gruff" if you didn't have the same opinions as she did.....

Jamie.... include Nash and Bowman on that list....
I made my first posting 3 years ago this month and they were the first people to respond to me.... I started lurking from day one.... but as my big summer fair was only 6 weeks away..... and I knew I'd never STFU once I got going..... I waited until the heaviest of my weaving season was over before popping in....

I posted originally as simply "Renee"..... but I love PoP's alliterate name so much I changed it to "RebelliousRenee" in honor of her.....

The osso Bucco is in the oven.

Now Bear, POunding chicken breast flat for Kiev.

1. Two large pieces of plastic wrap. A good mallet with good weight. one side large and one side small grids.

Place the butterflied breast in inbetween the plastic. Don't seal it.

Starting with the large grid of the mallet and in the middle, just let the mallet drop, don't pound and work your way to the outside. If you need more weight just do it in firmer slaps of the mallet or you could tear the chicken.

open the plastic at intervals and then close again so you can let it out for the size of the breast.

Use the smaller grid when you see ridges forming in the meat. don't want to tear.

Ok. That method is called "Paillard".

"Besides seating a committed environmentalist as head of the energy committee, the vote also removes one of the auto industry’s best friends from a key leadership post — further evidence of how much power the American car-makers, whose executives have been pleading for federal money, have lost in Congress."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/21/us/politics/21dingell.html?em

It's almost Brunswick stew season, too.

"Senators Reach Bipartisan Deal to Aid U.S. Automakers "

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a6szHA.vC6Uk&refer=home

Jack

D'ya think SMARTcar racing could ever replace NASCAR? The sound of rolling thunder replaced by the annoying mosiquito like 'eeeeeee'.

I will never forget Fritz coming on. It was like all of our heads turned in unison from his twisted logic. I believe he came on within a month of the blog's opening.

Before him the Right Wing reppresentation was a guy named Mark.......wow! Went off like a bottle rocket at the mention of "Choice"

"The sound of rolling thunder replaced by the annoying mosiquito like 'eeeeeee'"

LOL

Point!

Jack

Rosie....
ROFL!

there 's some little town here in NH that has a summer fair where the locals race riding lawn mowers....

Lawnmowers? Do they only turn left like in NASCAR?

That first month, We all went through a refresher course in the 4th amendment by Marisa and Craig.

It was a great conversation especially with what the Bush Administration was trying to do.

Is that the one where they really soup 'em up so they go like 50/60 mph? Or do they just jump on their John Deeres and go.

Now, I might tune in for Earnhardt racing on a lawnmower. lol

Time to get back to work.

Craig again Thanks.

Thanks for the conversation everyone.

Cheers

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Renee,

We must have arrived very close together. I didn't put down a date but knew it was over 2 1/2 years and you were on deck when I arrived.

For all the folks here that share my disdain for Christopher Hitchens (I think it was Jamie who called him a drunk) well here is a fun fantasy...

Christopher Hitchens waterboarded !!! too bad there was a safety word.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LPubUCJv58

LOL

Love the roller coaster.
The$ 2000 in ford and GM stock I bought the other day fell $500 yesterday, today it gained it all back and I'm up $250 and the day is half over.

Wheeeeeere will it go

Whoooooopie

Jack

Jack, sell quick !

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Chloe, I was also interested in reading about Michelle's mother moving into the White House with them. I can't remember, did Miss Lillian live in the White House when Jimmy Carter was President? Anyway, I digress...

Having had one of the most wonderful grandmas in the world (whom I miss every single day) I think it's awesome that the girls' grandma will live with them. My Gram lived with us pretty much all the time and she provided a lot of stability that was needed in our home. I was always her "shadow", preferring to spend all my time with her instead of my own parents... :-) Thing is, no matter how much I screwed up, she just kept on loving me... I hope the girls have that same sort of love from their Grandmother, and if she is anything like mine is, they will be well protected!

One after thought

Jamie, Renee, Craig.....Has anyone heard from NASH? Really really miss him.

Tom

And pay taxes on all that profit?

When it doubles I'll pocket my original bet and keep playing on other peoples money.

I planning on a 6 mounth hold for this one.

Jack

EXCELLENT NEWS - AUTO INDUSTRY HACK John Dingell has been dethroned from his chairmanship of the U.S. House Energy Committee. No more stonewalling on more fuel efficient autos and alternative sources of energy !! Way to go DEMS!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/20/AR2008112001778.html?hpid=topnews

Here's a Pumpkin Cornbread recipe for Shelia and others to try out for Thanksgiving.

1 cup (8 ounces) pumpkin -- Libby's offers both pure pumpkin
and pumpkin pie mix in cans, and one-half can of either
will do just fine.
1 cup milk
1 cup cornmeal
1 cup flour
1 egg
4 tsp. baking powder
1 tsp. salt
3 tbs. melted butter
black or golden raisins (optional)
cinnamon to taste (optional)

Melt butter.

Mix ingredients in order given.

Grease loaf pan or square pan as you prefer.

Bake 40 minutes at 400 degrees.

Jack... let's hope GM is still around in 6 months!

The GM 5 television commercial... This I love!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeHFErgTYfg

I would love to have a '58 Cadillac ... and I am a passionate lover of Oldsmobile and Buick... Why these cars are as American as...

As...

As... Anheuser Busch !!!

Tom

they will be, I may be partnered Chinese by then.

Jack

Tom

Can't you them driving a chevy pickup flying a Chinese flag with a 12 pack of budwieser.

Jack

And down we go!!!!

Ah Budweiser !!! We consider it such a treat when it's available here. Have gone to a few American style diners in Belgium and The Netherlands and gladly enjoyed BUD with my meal. You folks should still visit classic Diners. They are such a part of our American heritage !

Here's one I've been two 3 times (funny thing I never visited when I was living in Minnesota). It's called Mickey's Diner... a delightfully true greasy spoon... My Mom told me she even used to go there when she was a little girl. :-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey's_Diner

WHEN YOU SAY BUDWEISER... YOU'VE SAID IT ALL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yxy27PtvF98

I am thinking that I came on board about three years ago this December. There were definitely some early dustups especially with Fritz in one corner and Colorado Bob & 911 Survivor Sort Of doing a tag team number on his outrageous posts.

Also remember one of Craigs hillbilly book tours with fried bologna sandwiches and bluegrass bands.

Well. for 5 guys it's bye, bye Gitmo.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/21/us/21guantanamo.html?hp

Jamie, if you''ve been around 2 1/2 years, I musta shown up just after you. I know you, Sheila, and pretty much everyone mentioned above were here, including that "ditzy Fritzy" as (was it C'Bob) he was called.

ET,

We have a Bud brewery just up the road in Merrimack, NH. Also plenty of those diners still left around southern NH. We even have one in Nashua, that has the booths made out of old car parts all shined up.

I read about the lawn mower race in NH Magazine..... I would assume they use regular riding mowers such as John Deere or Cub Cadet.....

Sheila.... Nash surfaced here a few months ago after a long absence..... but he stayed only a few days and then disappeared again..... I LOVE joking around with him....

Jack..... I LOVE roller coasters..... but this stock market stuff is toooooo much for me.....

Wow blue!

That recipe looks like the texure would be devine.

Bowman......The famous fried baloney sandwhich. lol

Just before that was "Appletinis and The Tree"

Bowman, that fried balony sammich was in Charleston, WV at the Gold Dome I believe, and was the day before Craig visited my little burg.

And just before that was the "Incident With the Eardrum and the HotTub

hey if any of you guys see NASH again. Please let him know that I miss him. Colleen has been asking after him too.

RR,

I am thinking about putting a lift kit and a spoiler on my Murray mower.

We had a town drunk where I grew up that had lost his drivers license so he drove his lawn tractor to the bar. He was also in charge of making the BBQ sauce for the Annual American Legion Memorial Day Chicken BBQ. Beer was part of his recipe. And the saying went. "One for the sauce & five for Ross"

Nash is probably snowed in in Maine already

Another smart one from the past -
microsurf

Tucker sorbet -

This is good Blue, this is very good.

The Real Great Depression
The depression of 1929 is the wrong model for the current economic crisis

By SCOTT REYNOLDS NELSON

As a historian who works on the 19th century, I have been reading my newspaper with a considerable sense of dread. While many commentators on the recent mortgage and banking crisis have drawn parallels to the Great Depression of 1929, that comparison is not particularly apt. Two years ago, I began research on the Panic of 1873, an event of some interest to my colleagues in American business and labor history but probably unknown to everyone else. But as I turn the crank on the microfilm reader, I have been hearing weird echoes of recent events.

http://chronicle.com/temp/reprint.php?id=477k3d8mh2wmtpc4b6h07p4hy9z83x18

Wow! Just checked in to see what's happening here, and find Chef Sheila smiling at me! Congratulations to you on your most excellent prognosticating, Sheila!

The other day the I was listening for the rotation of the Firedogs heads when Lieberman didn't lose his. Apparently they've bought an axe -

Sign-up to help re-defeat Joe Lieberman.

The race starts now ... whoever runs against Joe Lieberman.

http://action.firedoglake.com/page/s/DefeatLieberman

Well ... I've decided to CHER a CHER song per day on the blog...

This is so funny from Letterman... see what Dave does to Cher at the end of the song... LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6tQNch4RwQ

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Bow, lucky you !!! When I travel the states, I really want to visit diners! I am even thinking of a Route 66 road trip someday!

RE; Chef Sheila being the first, to paraphrase Maxwell Scott -

This is the Blog-o-sphere, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend.

Ted Stevens said he had more years of "service" to give to Alaska, and the country. I hope he's running for that job as mayor of Palookaville.

craig, word for the day. the cabinet picks brought it to mind:

pentimento
wiki:
A pentimento (plural pentimenti) is an alteration in a painting, evidenced by traces of previous work, showing that the artist has changed his mind as to the composition during the process of painting. The word derives from the Italian pentirsi, meaning to repent.

free dic:
An underlying image in a painting, as an earlier painting, part of a painting, or original draft, that shows through.....

"pentimento" was also the title of a lillian hellman collection of auto-nostalgia that's pretty well worth the read if your interested in that era. that was the first time i came upon the word.... good word.

I used to enjoy Bud and will still drink one on ocassion, but after going to England and Scotland, I have agree that it is making love in a canoe.

If he uses Pentimento then he will have to squeeze in palimpsest as well for pages scraped clean and then written upon again.

Battle of Tarawa remembered on 65th anniversary

TARAWA, Kiribati -- Master Sgt. James M. Fawcett got on his knees and gently mixed his father's ashes with sand on the same Pacific beach where the elder Fawcett fought his way ashore 65 years ago.

Maj. James L. Fawcett died in September at the age of 89. He wanted his ashes taken to the spot where half of his 50-man platoon were killed during the first two hours of the Battle of Tarawa, one of World War II's most brutal battles.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1106ap_battle_anniversary.html

whats the big deal with not giving Detroit 25billion.
congress usually spends that much before brunch
that's like change you find under your sofa cushions
to them. they just spent 350 billion on the financial
bail out and couldn't even tell you where the money went.

Look what I found hiding in the tubes when I went hunting for some old blog entries:

http://www.goodmanspeakersbureau.com/biographies/crawford_craig.htm

Fearless leader bio from about four years ago.

China is expected to reform its oil pricing mechanism within 20 days as part of efforts to reduce consumption and air pollution, state media reported Wednesday.

The China Daily quoted on its website an anonymous source "close to Beijing's top decision-making circles" as saying the new price system would be released within 20 days.

http://www.energy-daily.com/reports/China_to_reform_oil_prices_in_20_days_state_media_999.html

"palimpsest" yes.... good catch jamie.

Eisenhower essentially killed Route 66 - by building the Interstate Highway System

US 66 was officially removed from the United States Highway System on June 27, 1985 after it was decided the route was no longer relevant and had been replaced by the Interstate Highway System.

Get Your kicks on Route 66 - Asleep At The Wheel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtDn5ChHI28

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And winning WW III aside, I still haven't forgiven him.

In case you should ever want to make the drive, a turn by turn map is available here:

http://www.historic66.com/

Hydraulic hybrids? UPS orders a few
Fluid and air pumps capture energy lost in braking, saving fuel

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27420449/

---------------------
The largest oilfield we have is our own gas tank.

He won WW III ? I missed that one.

I like Ike!

The "cool" version from the songwriter -

Bobby Troup - Route 66

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLUYf6cekMA

Euro Tom,

Thanks for the Mickey's Diner Promo. Next time you come home, you'll want to stock up on cholestrol again, and Mickey's is a great resource for LDL.

A buddy of mine claims there's a stroke in every bite.

My fingers stuttered

has the media followed up on obama's comment that
he would regulate coal-fired power plants out
of business . i guess the puppy question was more important' better start knitting some wool socks up
there in the north east'' going to get awful cold and dark
next winter

About as far from Mickey's as one gets : Congrats Chef Sheila ! I am so jealous, I'm BLUE in the face.

ET- here's some pathos for you and Solar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKCEEupqqyE

The very "hep" version from -

Depeche Mode- Route 66

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqrKxBhKdFM

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mqw

Since that isn't what he said, probably not.

mqw = fritz lite

very nice song, Anon.

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mqw, if you figure that out, please let me know. Maybe the $350B without so much as a goodnight kiss left a bad taste in their mouths. All I know is that they are passing up a chance to avoid bankruptcy for at least 2 of the 3, and I can't imagine a dem congress wants to see a bankruptcy judge mess with the labor contracts now in place - which is a distinct possibility.

"Sign-up to help re-defeat Joe Lieberman."

Anon -- you're gonna hate this piece in the NY Observer.

http://www.observer.com/2008/politics/back-fold-irresistible-joe-lieberman

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Tom, How wonderful your gram was. I'm sorry for your loss (even though it sounds like it's been a while now). It is so sweet the way you describe yourself as her shadow, and how she always made you feel so loved.

"A buddy of mine claims there's a stroke in every bite."

xrepub, I don't really think that's unless you eat a lot of it. (or maybe I'm just saying that because that's where I got my lunch today.)

"I'm takin' little white pills and my eyes are open wide ......"

Dave Dudley - Six Days on the Road

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f231Cf4GJmk

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That's not what he said. He said that with the costs of building the plant to comply with clean coal regs & taxes he'd put on carbon emissions, it would bankrupt a company to try and build NEW coal fired plants.

Nice Catch Pogo,

I was just about to add, that the big 3 have to produce a legitamite plan of use for the money as well as a 15 year production plan to convert their cars and plants to a more efficient way of operating, before I'd buy off on that.

......as well as planned pay cuts for all the CEO's, CFO's and any other big bites out of profits.

.....and an immediate answer to how they will proceed in employee retention.

Bankruptcy would not only throw us into a depression for sure, but also immediately, put tens of thousands of people on the street.

Michigan is one of four states that have run out of unemployment insurance.....AND to this date, there are now 1.9 million people who can't find jobs and are considered long term unemployment. Most than 6 months without a job.

they are just about to be lost on the radar.

Anon-this song is from my punk past and really rocks.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8_K7HT2UcU

http://www.curvemag.com/Curve-Magazine/Web-Articles-2008/N-Sigafoos-author-of-Dear-Violet-Letter-from-a-Desert-Grave-talks-to-Curve/

An intel​ligen​t inter​view about​ a woman​'​s passi​on for story​telli​ng,​ peace​ and makin​g human​ conne​ction​s.​ Enjoy​ the artic​le and pleas​e do pass it on.

N. Sigaf​oos is an Olymp​ia Washi​ngton​ resid​ent,​ a peace​ activ​ist,​ psych​other​apist​,​ artis​t and autho​r.​ Not only that,​ she'​s a reall​y good frien​d and I admir​e her great​ly!​

OOPS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8_K7HT2UcU

Rosie,

We're finally here together!...

Of course, its time for me to serve lunch. Later!

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REZ, Mauro made me do the NASCAR simulation thing at the MALL OF AMERICA. After it was done, I was dizzy and sweating! Ugggh. He loves Nascar!

"mqw = fritz lite"

oh Anon.... not even close...... that's it.... the Niccolo Award for you!.... :0)

BTW..... I will not say who I know you are..... but you've left a trail of clues a mile wide for any oldie to figure out..... my nose was definitely going in the right direction a couple weeks ago..... ;)

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Do you think Ted Stevens will ever congratulate the winer?

".... I will not say who I know you are..."

Anon, Please tell.....Now that you say you've been around for so long (I don't even know who Fritz is) I am so curious. I keep thinking 911 or Lard.......but am probably wrong.

Sheila, I gave you congrats a couple of hours ago. I hope you pay more attention when you're chopping!

"Friendly Fire records shredded"

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/11/20/friendly_fire/?source=newsletter

Shouldn't there be a court martial in here somewhere?

ET, you left one letter out - was it an "h" or an "n"?

Pogo

I vote for the h as we all know uncle Ted is great at self congradulation

Jack

Pogo....
that's exactly what I was thinking...... did he mean "whiner" or "winner"..... lol

Anon.... don't worry.... I won't mention it again..... if you want to be Anon.... that's your right..... but I'm really glad you're back!

Chloe..... you wouldn't know him.... he's been gone a long time....

Patsi -
Sometimes I post stuff merely as an interested observer. Personally I don't give a rat's fuzzy butt what happens to Lieberman. But I do enjoy watching the net evolve, and there's no greater pack of howling, pitch fork carrying, axe grinding Holy Joe haters than those folks over by the Lake. ( FLD )
I was waiting to see what their next move would be. Lieberman from my view has taken on that condition Hitler had ( monorchic ), and Obama has the remaining one in his pocket.

Jamie-I can't watch that. I tried, but I just can't.

"you wouldn't know him.... he's been gone a long time...."

Thanks Renee, It was driving me nuts, because I knew he was familiar with a lot of people here and seems very savvy and smart. Now I can let it go. (I do miss both 911 and Lard (although he's here occasionally), and also Fry...the list goes on and on.)

Niccolo Award -

Man that thing got run in the ground and broke off didn't it ?
You could win the Niccolo Award for just loggin' on in the morning.

RR -
It's not Okla, it's Texas.

When I was a lad I loved Ike. However, when I became a man I put away childish illusions. (Pretty good line, eh, SolarCrete ?)

Ike was right to keep Truman's containment policy. He was rightly hostile to Haiti's papa doc/baron samedy, and cool to Argentina's crypto-nazi dictator, juan peron. Ike encouraged the colonial powers to divest themselves of their empires.

Ike wasn't early enough or vocal enough in opposition to the witch-hunting right wing demogogues, like joe mccarthy. He even had one for a running mate.

He blew it in Guatamala, Iran, Suez, Hungary, and Viet Nam.

I'm ambivalent regarding Ike's treatment of Cuba. Fulgencio Batista was a bully and kleptomaniac. The Cosa Nostra used Cuba as a slave plantation, money laundry, and hideout.

49.9 years after the Castros drove unopposed into Havana, dog catchers in the meanest and most isolated village are still selected by the Royal Family, everything that is not illegal is mandatory, and Cuba's Homeland Security is the role model for bushcheneyrumdumbchertoff's Homeland Security.

Under Ike, the DoD secretly inflicted radioactive poisoning on citizens in order to monitor the effects over time. The experiment included dumping radioactive iodine on a Minneapolis grade school and playground. I am unclear about whether Ike had knowledge of this outrage.

Ike increased the amount of rat poop allowed in the flour used to make items like Wonder Bread, Nabisco Crackers, and Twinkies.

I now have difficulty liking Ike.

Rosie

I didn't watch it either. It's the criminal cover up in the story that is important. Somebody better serve time for this one.

monorchic ! I love it !

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heheheh I just caught that myself... WINNER...

my typos; LOSER

Anon....

OMG!..... thanks for telling me that!
I've missed you and I love you!....

and you're secret is safe with me......

Renee -
Here's yer "Atta Girl".

It's not a secret, it's more like a helmet to avoid in coming fire.

"it's more like a helmet to avoid in coming fire."

I need one of those.

Texas? no... surely not...

Here's one back at ya rosie -

Steve Earle - Copperhead Road

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc86_Weoye0

"Him and my uncle tore that engine down ....... I can still remember that rumblin' sound."

Shirley Knot

I remember her

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Anon}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

I'm bawling like a baby...... but they're tears of joy!

Pogo -
Steve Earle and the Del McCoury Band
The Texas Eagle -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tLzyuiUUzI

Amarillo Highway - Terry Allen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-sHkhkHrNw&feature=related

WiskeyJ
Don't call me Shirley.

Bowmanc -

Here's yer "Atta Boy"

Anon is Nash?

XR----and xr only---yeah good one----u know this u agree with me,, and i agree with you stuff for some reason doesn't feel right to me---- so PUT EM UP---PUT EM UP!!!!!!!!!!

Rosie--put your little shoes away??? i sorta had a feeling that u were about 5' 10-11 inches and stacked like a birck----never mind :-))))))

No Tom I'm not as smart as Nash .

My Love Will Not Change

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN91OwVs_T0

Hey it's nice to meet you officially. I've heard so much about you.... People here LOVE you ! I remember looking at your blog and your friends here were so worried about you, but it seems you are doing quite well, and for this I am thankful !!!

Tom

P.S. I don't agree with the "not as smart as Nash" comment... :)

Man!
we thought you were dead...... we googled the Lubbock newspapers looking for your obituary.....

Harborwoman called some gallery where you worked and they told her you were alive and well..... and it's true.....

Nowadays they don't make no trains
Just the piggyback freighters and them Amtrak things
They shut the Eagle down awhile ago
Sold it to the railroad down in Mexico
But every now and then that whistle's on my mind
I ride that Texas Eagle 'cross the borderline

Ok so Renee said it.. I wasn't going to say that everyone thought you were dead, but it's true. Can you imagine how strange it is to be part of a blog where someone who was universally liked is gone and presumed dead? How is your health? And what brought you back to the blog?

C-Bob Lives! Too fabulous!

I have been hearing about Colorado Bob for so long here (especially from 911). So glad to meet you. (and I'm sorry I was arguing with you a week or two ago. I feel guilty)

Bring back the "Atta boy!"

OP-ED COLUMNIST
Hillary for Secretary?

By GAIL COLLINS
Published: November 15, 2008

Hillaryhillaryhillaryhillaryhillary.

Is she going to be Barack Obama’s secretary of state?

It’s been quite a while since we’ve had an opportunity to discuss the Clinton-Obama dynamic, and it does feel good to be back. Forget bankrupt automakers and retail sales numbers. It’s May, and we’re in Indiana arguing about gas prices

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/15/opinion/15collins.html

Chloe I feel your pain !! :-) Passionate people make passionate posts. Sometimes we go overboard but the beauty of being human is that we recognize our mistakes and learn from them. I have enjoyed immensely briefly chatting with you the last few days and reconnecting as friends! So... I'll send out a blanket apology to anyone I've hurt or insulted in the blog. Mea Culpa and please don't forget, it isn't that we make mistakes, it's how they change us and make us better.

xoxoxoxoxo

Tom -
Nash is a snowy poet, and master of the word. His posts were like fly paper, just one and we were all stuck. And no one is funnier after 1 AM than Madmustard, or smarter before it.

As for me , I'm some sort of white trash science experiment, still molting teeth, brain cells, and hair.

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Tom
Your wonderful,Chloe too! Its makes sense you two get along...

When i was lurking for a long time,,,about a year ago ,,,,colorado bob this colorado bob that,,,,what the hell is a colorado bob???? then i saw a picture of colorado bob in front of some old grocery store or something,,,and said,,,what is the big deal,,,NOW I KNOW----howdy C. B.

CBob...
I'm opening my best bottle of wine tonight with supper and toasting you.....

and BTW..... I was wrong.... I thought you were MadMustard....
you 2 sound so much alike.....

and thanks for all the help you gave with my Mac when it was new.....

ETom.... xoxoxoxoxo.... back atchya....

I am curious why you chose to be ANON? YOu don't have to tell if you don't want to. Also it is like 2 hours past my prescribed bedtime.. .the mornings come early here :)

CBob
Its a pleasure your here! Heard so many good things for so long about you...Anon too...Good

Thanks Tom. I've enjoyed chatting with you too. My husband sometimes calls me Yosemite Sam (because I can have a short fuse, but it doesn't last long). :)

I still want Champ back -----though !

Macs rock !!!!

Chloe
It is the oldtimer reunion today, back in their days they didn't have any of this fancy key stuff or these other easy things us whippersnappers have They had to walk through the intertube thing three miles just to see a router. knee deep in snow, up hill both ways.

Jack

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Solar
Me too!

So the news of the day is:
Cowboy is back,
and the Indians go after the Pirates....

An appropriate song at this fine moment

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGbnua2kSa8

Chloe -
Never forget it's screen with little electrons floating on it. Nothing more, nothing less. I learned that from Fritz. I you wind your main spring up, by the way those little electrons have arranged themselves, well the original arranger usually does know or doesn't care.

And thanks for polishing my shoes.

Hey Patsi
You said the other day you had your x-mas decorations up,what kind of tree do you have?I'm getting excited to put mine up,I've got a beautiful 9ft Frasier Fur...Can't wait...If I had more time this week I wouldn't,HA...

"It is the oldtimer reunion today"

Ha, I'll say Jack. This is still all so knew to me. You've been blogging a lot longer. This is the first place I ever chatted (or should I say argued), venting off all that frustration during the primary, and here I've stayed.

Thanks for the advice Colorado.
I knew there was a reason those shoes were so big. Way too big for me to fill. :)

Now, how does everybody feel about this woman losing a hundred thousand dollar tool bag in outer space ?

Too sexist ? I thought so.

Hey Chloe
This was the first blog I ever posted on and then I lurked for months...It was the giving up on the MSM during the primaries,I had to have a place to vent or explode! HA

Chole

Me too Chole------some times i can't believe that we say and have done a lot of the same things.,,this is my first place, and only place that im going to blog,,,im just getting over the anxiety that i used to have every time that i post,,,,,every one is used to my screw up by now,,,and take it all in stride. I owe a lot to Bethy for our long post that helped me get by.

Tony, I remember your first post. I was here that night (I think it was night, anyway). I liked you from the start (I was very new too). I remember you were so impressed with Jamie, came in and told her you'd been lurking and she was your favorite person here. You're still great, as a matter of fact, better than ever. I like it when you occasionally get a little feisty. :)

Tony----a 19ft tree---wow---i saw a picture of u too----skinny little guy---don't get any splinters climbing up that tree hahahaha

{{{{{HUGS BOB}}}}}}}

Its a real good day!

Ha Solar. We do think alike. I remember your first post too. You didn't sound like you were going to stick around, and I was worried you wouldn't. I'm so glad you did. I love reading your posts and enjoy your free association way of thinking.

ps I hope Champ comes back too.

There's a big ol goofy man
Dancing with a big ol goofy girl

Oh baby, it's a big ol goofy world

John Prine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZACwVOJXpn0

Colleen has been missing you for while. I'll let her know you were here. She's not too up to snuff lately. I'm sure it will warm her heart to know you showed up again. ;0)

Good evening, my union-busting pals! Hope the stench from this morning is gone. At least, I read there was a stench. I kid you all. But, good to see C-Bob here! I woke up expecting to see snow, but it didn't get here yet. Probably waiting until I leave for work! Time for some sentimental music....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2vvOPsiVdU

Chloe

We've meet a number of folks through the year. I was thinking of Ruth last night when Solar and I were talking about food and garden tomatoes.
I wonder how her husband is getting along on dialyses.

Jack

Jack,
I have thought about Ruth too (and so many others). I wish they would all drop in now and then and let us know how they're doing. So many have come and gone.

Jack, I wasn't here for your first post (as you know) but what I always remember about you is all the times you've defended me when I got myself in trouble. Thanks.

My last clip , it has a Kinks song in it ..... One of their best -

Attitude :

http://push.pickensplan.com/video/video/show?id=2187034%3AVideo%3A229347

" It's not your manners you've got to improve, it's your attitude ...... "

From time to time, I hear from Julia. She's doing fine.

Now there you go Chloe , getting all sappy and sentimentel. You're going to make a great oldtimer one of these days.

John Prine and Iris DeMent - In Spite of Ourselves

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5axlwCBXC8

Jack

very cool day.......

Chef Shelia -

I will be filing papers in D.C. federal court to have this "so-called contest" thoroughly investigated. This is clearly a plot by the Obama forces to make "conventional wisdom" look silly, and grossly misinformed.
Just take the results from Missouri, we all know that it's "America's Bellwether ", and these returns are just not possible. I would remind the readers here that I am the man who forced The Great Arkansas River Vicksburg and Gulf and Steamship Company into receivership.

HA!!! I thought so. Welcome back Buckaroo -- your absence has been noticed, and your presence sorely missed.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/trail-mix-predictorinchief-ann.html#comment-175606

Truer words, sturg, truer words. . .

lol Bob Hunny Bunny What the !@#$ you talking about? lol

You didn't like the election results?

SWAK!

BTW, dnd misses your back and forth too. ;0)

Besides, whats up your sleeves on Climate change?

oh......oh......Are you kidding your old early morning coffee clutch partner? lololol

Wahoo - I go away for a couple of hours and C Bob puts in an appearance. .... hugs, kisses etc.

The home town reunion is starting to look like a good gathering

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0fJ2_Tm4IY

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/trail-mix-predictorinchief-ann.html#comment-175592
"I like it when you occasionally get a little feisty. ":)
Chloe
Oh ya,It always surprises me when I get feisty, its usually if I feel someones feelings are getting hurt,I don't like that. Man you have a good memory.I remember having this overwhelming disgust for the way Jamie was treated during the primaries, meanwhile she was always so respectful to those who were the offenders.I just had to let her know and I'm so glad I did!! Your so good Miss Chloe and the fact you care so much for as you say your critters,well that says it all....

Solar
19ft tree well....HA HA. I'm 6ft and my tree is 9ft so I don't have far to climb!! You so funny...Where's your picture MR???

Is this a great country or what?

JTP lands his book deal.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/20/joe-the-plumber-secures-b_n_145271.html

Hope he's better at writing (as if he will be the one who wrote any of it) than he is at math or plumbing - on both of which he comes up pretty short.

Oops -- forgot to give the link to the Indians and the Pirates:

http://ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=311990589125833

The Obama example

"Next time you move to another state and need a new driver's license, try this: Refuse to produce the birth certificate or any other personal information required by the department of motor vehicles. Just explain that a facsimile of the required document is posted on your website and give the clerk the domain name.

Tell them: "I'm following the example of President-elect Barack Obama. If he didn't need to produce a birth certificate to establish his eligibility to be president of the United States, why would you require me to produce one to get a lousy driver's license?"

See if it flies."

http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=81347

Tony -- My decorations are not much this year, little tree, big wreath over the fireplace, some candles....

My cats have become enemies of Christmas decorations....

lol GORDO, You still grinding that one into the ground?......

Every time I come here you are writing on the same subject.

Oh well, nothing like the familiar tonight.

Patsi

It looks like India is filling some of the void in that part of the world. I read the other day they were getting ready to launch a probe to the moon. Pakistan is starting to look more and more backward.

Jack

Good news on the home front. Though there hasn't been an official announcement yet, my friend Jackie is scheduled to go to DC tomorrow to accept the job as Michelle's Chief of Staff. Jackie ran Obama's campaign in Iowa and gets a lot of credit for his win. It didn't hurt that her husband, John, ran Kerry's winning caucus campaign so they already had the organization. Jackie is one class act and will do well at the job...they are lucky to have her.

"Iowan Picked As Michelle Obama's Chief Of Staff"
http://www.kcci.com/politics/18026404/detail.html

And who does this surprise?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/20/AR2008112002011.html?nav=rss_nation

CIA FUs, CUs, lies.

Supremes to review Barack's citizenship

"A case that challenges President-elect Barack Obama's name on the 2008 election ballot citing questions over his citizenship has been scheduled for a "conference" at the U.S. Supreme Court.

The Supreme Court's website listed the date for the case brought by Leo C. Donofrio against Nina Wells, the secretary of state in New Jersey, over not only Obama's name on the 2008 election ballot but those of two others, Sen. John McCain and Roger Calero.

If four of the nine justices vote to hear the case in full, oral argument may be scheduled.

The action questions whether any of the three candidates is qualified under the U.S. Constitution's requirement that a president be a "natural-born citizen."

http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=81484

Patsi
I have many clients with cats and they have a ball with the tree ornaments,last year it seemed like part of my job was putting them back on there tree's as the cats took them back off.....love them cats though,especially gray and green eyed Bobby.

"If"

LOL
Another one of them big words that keep getting in the way.

Jack

wonder how barack got his illinois driver's license.......

That's exciting news, Zoey -- congrats to your friend!

GORDO,

I have tried and tried......can't get a major news sourse on that one. Just a bunch of blogs and right wing nutjobs. Good Luck on that on.

Sturge

for a long time my drivers licence identity was based on my draft card. It was the only ID I had when I got my first licence. With the new requirements my last one is based on my birth certificate and a piece of junk mail to prove residence.

C-Bob -- Tell the truth -- you've been in hiding with this guy, haven't you?

http://www.houstonpress.com/2008-11-20/news/the-collector-mack-mccormick-s-huge-archive-of-culture-and-lore

Dem leaders demand business plan before auto aid vote:

http://www.freep.com/article/20081120/BUSINESS01/81120068

Penny Pritzger the subprime queen just sez no to vetting

She, here's the note from the SCOTUS on the conference - scheduled for 12/5. The decision on whether it's accepted should be in the notices the following Monday (12/8).

http://origin.www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08a407.htm

sturg - I've commented on that before, recommended that G-Man FOIA those records. To . . . no . . . avail.

Hey Sheila
Nice to see you posting,congrats!! I appreciate your post earlier regarding the big three bailout bridge loan and spot on.....

Thanks pogo, Will wonders never cease. lol

Thanks on both accounts Tony, good to see you too.

Just another MSM cover-up. There are many.

Colorado Bob - at last!!!!!! You are the first legend I have ever encountered. Thanks for coming back and letting us newbies get to know you.

Solar - what a nice thing to say. I lurked for only a short time before I made my first short (HA!) little post, and did so because I quickly decided that the people here were decent and very intelligent and kind.

Our long posts re Mexico were great for me, too, as I had had those thoughts for a long time and nobody I knew was interested in exploring them with me. Then you were there and had real first hand knowledge of the subject - what joy to find someone to talk things over with. I think we all feel that way here, no?

The video of Hitchens being waterboarded was almost too much to watch. He's appalling, but.. He also made a very cogent comment - what does an innocent person do to stop it?

The Prop 8 thing here is about whether it amended the constitution ot just altered it - that kind of legal wrangling. My answer to people who say the people voted and it should stand is :

You don't understand - there are some things we do not vote on. We don't get to vote on denying the Bill of Rights to particular people. That is already decided - it is a given. The majority does not always get to win = that is the law.

oh god..... I'm dreading to see what my new cat, Paris, will do when she sees our Xmas tree.....

the little shit has me constantly rewinding balls of yarn she's taken apart and flung all over the house.....

she also has a thing for taking pens and strewing about on our stairs..... when we go downstairs in the morning we have to watch out we don't step on one and break our necks....

it's a good thing she's cute!

Sheila, filing a lawsuit ain't no big thang. Getting one accepted on a direct writ to the You Ess Soopreme Court, to be heard denovo without having a losing verdict in hand from a federal district, then circuit court is a whole 'nuther thang. I probably have better odds of getting pregnant. Nope, wonders never cease. lol

But before anyone gets all excited and such, this is not the be-all, end-all lawsuit. It is just an application for a stay pending the filing and disposition of a petition for a writ of certiorari - can''t tell what it's requesting a stay OF while Donofrio writes and files a petition for a writ of certiorari, which will reveal what he thinks the merits of his case are, but that may be on Lexis or Westlaw. This is just saying something like "oh,please, oh, please stop those people from doing anything while I write something that you might consider." I may mosey over there if I get bored and see if I can find anything.

RR- She sounds like a cute rascal. Where do you selll your scarves? they sound beautiful! Good color names too.

Jamie, how is your new kitten?

Thanks Pogo, glad your not Pregers! lol

Sheila - nope. (Could be me, though). Arrivederci

Buona Sera pogo and horse De Ovrey's

OSH...
I sell my scarves mostly through galleries here in NH..... I do give some to a few galleries in other New England states...... but nothing near you.

I don't do a website...... craft items don't sell well on the internet.....
and besides...... I do them in like 50 different colors..... I could never put all my color samples on a web page!

and yes..... Paris is a rascal..... I got her from a local animal shelter this past April...... she's 3 yrs old and small..... she must have been the runt of the litter as she's about half the size of an average cat....

time for football on the NFL network....

see you all tomorrow....

and CBob..... please stick around..... feels like I'm getting to know you all over again....

Jesus cont,

There are very few practical options t choose from. It would be most convenient if the dating of Jesus's minstry was wrong---if it could be shown that Jesus had not been t urge his fellow Jews to love the Romans until after the fall of Jerusalem, But an error of forty years in the conventional chronology of events such as Judas o Gallee's tax revolt of Pontius Pilate's governorship is inconceivable,
Although we cannot be in error about when Jesus spoke, there aare many reasons to suppose that we are in error about what he spoke. A simple practical solution to the questions raised at the close of the previous chapter is that Jesus was mot as peaceful as is commonly believed, and that his actual teachings did not represent a fundamental break with the tradition of Jewis military messianism . A strong pro-zealot bandit and anti-Roman bias probably pervaded his original ministry. The decisive break with the Jewish messianic tradition probably came about only after the fall of Jerusalem.When the original politico-military components in Jesus's teachings were purged by Jewish Christians living in Rome and other cities of the empire as an adaptive response to the Roman victory. That, at least in brief.is the argument that in order to relate the paradozes of peaceful messianism to the conduct of practical human affairs.
Continuity between the original teachings of Jesus and the military-messianic tradition is suggested by the close link that existed between Jesus and John the Baptist. dressed in animal skins and eating nothing but locusts and wild honey , John the Baptist clearly corresponds to the genre of holy men whom Jjosephus describes as wandering about the badlands of the Jjordan Balley, stirring up the peasants and slaves and making trouble for the Rjomans and their Jewish clients. All four Gospels agree that John the B, was the immediate forerunner of Jesus. His mission was to perform the work of Isaiah, to go into the wilderness-the bandit-infested backlands full of caves that echoed with the memories of Jahweh's covenant, and cry out--"Prepare ye the ways of the lord , make his paths straight." (Repent for your sinfulness, recognize your guilt, so that you may at least be rewarded with the promised empire.) John "baptized" Jews who confessed their guilt and were properly penitent, bathing hem in a river or spring to symbolically wash away their sins. According to the gospels, Jesus was the Baptist's most famous penitent. Upon being washed in the Jordan River Jesus embarked on the climactic phase of his life-the period of active preaching that led o his death on the cross. John the B's career replicates the pattern of desert oracles described in the previous chapter. When the crowds around him grew too big, he was taken into custody by the nearest guardian of Roman law and order. This happened to be the puppet king, Herod Antipas, ruler of the part of Palestine east of the Jordan where the vaptist had been mos active.

There is no hint in the gospels that the Baptist might have been arrested because his activities were regarded as a threat ot law and order.The entire poloitco-military dimension is absent. Instead we are told that the Baptist's arrest resulted from his criticism of the marriage between Herod and herodias, the divorced wife of one of Herod's brothers. The story goes on to attribute the Baptist's execution not to any political motive but to Herodias's desire for revenge. Herodias gets her daughter Salome to dance ofr King Herod. The King is so pleased with the performance hat he promises the dancer anything she wants. Salome announces she wants the Baptist's head on a platter, and Herod complies. Herod is said to have been overcome with remorse, just as later on Pontius Pilate is said to have been overcome with remorse at the execution of Jesus. Considering what the Baptist was telling the crowds in the wilderness before he was arrested, the lack of political references and the remorse attributed ot Herod seem most inappropriate. What John preached was a pure military-messianic threat.

My personal favorite quote in the bible---Deuteronony13:1
"Whatever I am now commanding you, you must keep and observe ( I think that with this---God has effectively tied every ones hands -----they can't get away from this one???)

2nd is------Deuteronomy--13;7-11-----If your brother . the son of your father or of your mother, or your son or daughter, or the spouse whom you embrace, or your most intimate friend, tries to secretly seduce you, saying ,"Let us go and serve other gods," unknown to you or your ancestors before you, gods of the peoples surrounding you, whether near you or far away, anywhere throughout the world, you must mot consent, you must not listen, to him, you must show him no pity , you must not spare him or conceal his guilt. No, you must kill him, your hand must strike the first blow in putting him to death and the hands of the rest of the people following..you must put him to death since he has tried to divert you from Yahweh you God

I have asked priest if they know that this is in the bible----they always lie---and say no.

sorry to bomb that on u but i was afraid of losing it

RR- If you would like to sell them here I could show them to some friends who have an american only craft shop ( they call it a gallery, everybody's an artist here). my email is kcowley at verizon dot net

RR and OSH

Sakura may be the even more evil twin of renee's kitten.

Her brother Mister is a sedate, mellow and well behaved little gentleman whose motor starts running the instant you look at him.

Sister on the other hand knows that she has an absolutely perfect pretty face, is unbearably cute and knows how to bounce from place to place with adorable grace. This allows her to get away with murder. Open the dryer ... she's in it. Open the dish washer ... she's in it. Sit down and you get a used as a tree (she's the kitten on the head staring upside down in your glasses). Her latest trick, standing on her back legs and reaching up with her front paws to be picked up.

Most of the time I love her to bits except at 3:00 a.m. when she thinks my head is a bump in the oval track she is running for her morning exercise.

Lumberjack Song

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PpxQp3Hy5nk

If you missed Rachel tonight or even if you didn't, one of her guests Malcolm Gladwell was fascinating. Author of "Outliers, the Story of Success". Previous book, "The Tipping Point".

With all the Clinton as SoS noise, he and Rachel came across as having hung on to their sanity unlike the other yammerers (particularly on the far left bemoaning all the "clinton people appointments"). Obama is secure enough to balance necessary expertise with new ideas and action in order to perform his job well.

http://www.gladwell.com/

For info on his books and copies of New Yorker articles

Jamie-She sounds so adorable. Kittens are some of the best things in life.

Congratulations, Sheila. I might have come up with that number if I had thrown a dart - HA! It's beyond me.

KGC - I just saw yesterday the warning re not burning wood on winter spare the air days. I understand it, but don't remember the law. I must have voted for it, but it was too long ago for me - groan. Is it state-wide and, if so, what about the people who live in the Sierra? Also, does it pertain to fire logs? Gas fireplaces are ok, I know.

*Waits to receive text message from Hillary*

Well, we almost got through a day without a mention of her. Almost...

Congrats, Chef Sheila!

Can you predict my future??

tt

Michael Mukasey, AG, just collapsed while giving a speech - don't know anything else. I think FOX broke the story cuz it's not on any other station, and you know how the media loves 'breaking news.'

She was the real turkey.

THE SOGGY BOTTOM BOYS - OH BROTHER WHERE ART THOU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF5OtSO3j6I

CB ----i was trying to think of that song yesterday-----i think i watched the move 5-6 times---the only other movie that i have seen as much is cry baby with johny depp?---thanks---got it booked.

R.L.Burnside - it's bad you know

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzC_rGX-XyM

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/trail-mix-predictorinchief-ann.html#comment-175668

But you don't know for sure that she is wavering. You only have a rumor that she is being indecisive. All the yakking about it is starting to remind me of what I disliked about the media love affair with Obama during the campaign and kept me irritated at him and more devoted to her.

Muddy Waters & James Cotton - Got My Mojo Working (1966)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K91Qj870HHk

My nominees for the stupidest moves of the last few days - or week:

#1 - The auto execs flying to DC individually in private
corporate jets

#2 - Sarah Palin's abattoir interview

#3 - The Verizon employees hacking into - or prying into - Obama's cell phone and records.........especially in this job market

I got to think what was said tonight is true, they'll announce HRC after thanksgiving. Given that the Titanic has started to take on more water this week we'll see the treasury pick before then. I'm with everybody though on one point, cable news is sliding more and more into artifice.
I didn't think that possible.

Welcome back again Bob. Good night all. Enjoy the late night concert.

That was some video. And I have learned how the process of turning a live turkey into dinner starts. The beheading/bleedout funnel.

The advent of supermarkets and mass food production methods have divorced several generation of people from the understanding of where their food comes from, particualarly with respect to meat and poultry.

However without these methods there would be much less food available for people. So my question tonight is, does mass production of food encourage population growth or does it prevent starvation on a mass scale?

Robert Johnson "Sweet Home Chicago"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkftesK2dck

Bow -
I'm goin' with intercourse first then the chickens.

"Malcolm Gladwell was fascinating. Author of "Outliers, the Story of Success". Previous book, "The Tipping Point".

I heard him on NPR yesterday, Jamie. He was really interesting. The interviewer, though, was at times confrontational when it seemed innapropriate. I couldn't figure out what his problem was.

Wayne Fontana & the Mindbenders-The Game of Love

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB1fis5QNMs

Patsi -
Gladwell has been doing a bunch of shows, that book seems like another good one. I saw him on Colbert last night and Maddow tonight. I think Boing Boing did a review a week or so ago. Their stuff is always pretty good with interesting books.

George Baker- Little Green Bag

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b1wt3-zpzQ

WTF ! Turkeys don't vote. In MN, domestic turkeys outnumber dogs. Southerners, Midwesterners, and Westerners all slay their own food. 100,000 deer hunters in MN alone, butcher their own kill.

I know all this because I am only superficially urban and dainty. Hell, I like to clean fish, 'cause it gets me closer to lunch and dinner, and I love both lunch and dinner.

What % of the American public is allergic to the sight of blood ? 2.47 % ? On average, we each watch 624 murders per week on tv (don't quote me please, 'cause I made these #s up. But, in your hearts, you know what I mean), so how can we be squeamish ?

There aren't more than 3 republicans in the NE, and 2 are ME senators, so how can this possibly turkey business possibly hurt Guv Palin ???

tim pawlenty draws more blood by high sticking geriatric defensemen at the old timers games. If he could, he'd display their heads on pikes.

Weather Report - Birdland

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj51b4ns1Ww

Colorado Bob? Is that YOU?

WOW!

tt

We held a cyber wake for ya here.

tt

C-Bob -- I tuned in during the middle of the interview, and so I missed some important parts. But the interviewer appeared to have a bit of a bee in his bonnet about Gladwell promoting predeterminism. (Which I didn't get -- just thought he was pointing out some important realities.)

heads on pikes

Now there's a economic policy we can all support.

Yes, C-Bob -- there was a wake...it was SO Huck Finn of us....

Or Tom...as it were....

True, Patsi.

Where has C-Bob been?

tt

I am glad I missed that one.

TT I've seen you wandering the hallways at night.

Yep, C-Bob.

If you're the REAL C-Bob, what did you give Craig? What did you make for me?

tt

For me, it was that cute little red bikini with fringe.

tt

I'll check back tomorrow & see if ya remember.

tt

Jeff Beck Group - Plynth

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hM__HgisHAA

TT _
Is your VW bus on blocks, or is it still running ?

Wow... welcome back CBob!! Fritz is the reason I picked tylenol as a nic... every time i read his posts I got a headache... good to see ya, Bob :)

tt -- I opined earlier that C-Bob has been in hiding with this guy:

http://www.houstonpress.com/2008-11-20/news/the-collector-mack-mccormick-s-huge-archive-of-culture-and-lore

Tip Toe's VW bus :

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p51/coloradobob/robertchapman_4.gif

tylenol -
LOL
I never knew that about Fritz. How's the great White North ?

tylenol -

You could have gone with Preparation H .

CBob...

It's good to know that your still around. I hope your doing well and are around for a long, long time.

Take care and...

God Bless.

Well, with C-Bob back, it's time to Boogie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_k-CL3dJ8k&feature=related

A song for "Anon"

A bear in his natural habitat........Studebaker

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6w316aA8ed8