Call me dubious about Barack Obama's apparent enthusiasm for emulating Abraham Lincoln's choice to bring former political rivals into his Cabinet. It worked a century and a half ago when White House infighting was mostly private, but in today's world every squabble could become a public spectacle.
When Lincoln did not like what was written about him, he ordered the military to shut down a New York newspaper and arrest the editors. Presumably, those days are gone.
Scandal-crazed bloggers, out-of-control partisans and unmanageable leakers now lurk around new administrations like nothing before. Big egos, each with a unique political base and a personal agenda, could distract the nation and derail the new administration
Naïve presidents often first take office with grand promises about how, this time, the members of the Cabinet will be more than lap dogs. Jimmy Carter, for instance, vowed to run his administration with a strong Cabinet, holding weekly meetings that soon became bi-weekly, and then monthly, and, by his last year, quite seldom.
If Obama avoids the pattern of abandoning early promises of Cabinet-wide government in favor of an entrenched White House, it will be a first, almost since

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piranha amongst us..........
Posted by: sturgeone | November 18, 2008 6:05 AM
Dick Cavett on Imus this AM<.........
Posted by: sturgeone | November 18, 2008 6:08 AM
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Posted by: sturgeone | November 18, 2008 6:11 AM
Loved X's comments on Bush/Cheney last night:
"Heaven prevent anyone from thinking that I am a fan of rice, but howinell could anyone work the job, as you describe it, in an administration where the president channels messages from Jesus, and the government is run by a boozed up VP, who reads the SoS's mail before she gets it, is an insufferable martinet, and who is a fan of Mussolini, to boot ?
Since drunkendickcheney shot his pal, and his familiar was convicted of lying to the FBI, together causing cheney's downfall, rice has made real progress. Instead of being follicle deep in the elephant dudu, we are now only lip deep."
Posted by: Patsi
| November 18, 2008 6:18 AM
"Doooon't make a waaaaaaaaaaaave......."
Posted by: sturgeone | November 18, 2008 6:30 AM
I think mqw and i were talking about aspects of your column on the prior thread......promises and fulfillment, hope, etc......
dont make a wave......cant remember the set up which made that into a joke and a punchline, but I heard it in the 3rd grade from my older brothers who always shared their finds with me...........the setting is Lucifer and the new guy in front of this 3rd door in Hades while audibly emanating from within the door are the so-carefully uttered words:
"Dooooon't maaaaaaake a Waaaaave. "
Then another voice, "Doooooooon't maaaaake a waaaaave."
the door opens to show 3 guys chained in the middle of a room full of sewage up to their lips.
I guess there was a glass door within the outer door to keep the sewage from spilling out when the door opened.
Posted by: sturgeone | November 18, 2008 6:48 AM
Maybe if they rename the Volt the Chevy Barak or the Gore, it could save Detroit. Wait. People have to have jobs to get credit to buy cars. On the other hand, people will want big, old-school Detroit cars to live in when they can't pay their mortgages. Somebody fire Hank Paulson right now.
Seems like Stephen Colbert brought up something that sounded like insider trading when Mark Cuban was on his show a long, long time ago.
Posted by: blueINdallas | November 18, 2008 7:25 AM
Why don't they go after Jerry Jones instead?
Posted by: Corey
| November 18, 2008 7:39 AM
Morn'n all...
Fire Hank for why? He is just doing what the congress gave him..... and what the gov't created.
SHould gov't bailout GM, Ford, Chrysler, GE ?
Posted by: Ping Pong
| November 18, 2008 7:45 AM
Craig -
Was this a McCain line - "That one is so Naïve"
Barack looks older all ready - Darn shame when reality hits you and you get what you asked for...
Dooooon't maaaaaaake a Waaaaave
love it sturg
Posted by: Ping Pong
| November 18, 2008 7:47 AM
"Naïve presidents often first take office with grand promises about how, this time, the members of the Cabinet will be more than lap dogs."
Craig, For a dreamer (at least there are times you seem like one to me), you certainly are also a realist. Nice combination. :)
Craig pointed out something toward the end of the last thread. Here it is for anyone interested and missed it:
"i didn't limit my concerns to just swear words, RR, here's what i also said:"
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/obamas-leaky-transition.html#comment-173721
Posted by: chloe
| November 18, 2008 8:16 AM
Goodmorning
On my 2nd cup of coffee,
Just finished the morning phone call with the wife.
Now with tongue planted firmly in cheek.
Chloe
Teachers pet, teachers pet, niener, niener, niener.
A blog that engages in respectful debate and doesn't engage in name calling? You are wacko crazy, what kind of blog would that be?
Boooooooring.
;-)
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 18, 2008 8:45 AM
btw
if you get the resonance right you can make a wave that will provide more than a bit of entertainment at the expense of your fellow pool mates. After all it is hell and you take your entertainment where you can.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 18, 2008 8:52 AM
"...a room full of sewage up to their lips." Sturg, that was supposed to be _really_ concentrated 'sewage'.
Posted by: Flatus
| November 18, 2008 8:52 AM
Obama Should Look to FDR Not Lincoln
"In the last week, I've spoken with a gaggle of experts, some of them in finance, some in real estate and some in just plain investments. I've interviewed media magnates, both foreign and domestic, an investment banker, a manufacturer, and a former banker. This is what I have to report: Economically, we're in a recession. Psychologically, we're in a depression. The reason: None of these experts knows what to do.
.....what he might not appreciate is that among his many gifts, the one that might matter most is how close he can come to Rooseveltian enthusiasm, that optimism, that capacity for empathy that made so many ordinary people love this rich man and stick with him. Lincoln, a sometimes melancholy and somber man, belongs, as Edwin M. Stanton said, "to the ages." Roosevelt belongs to ours."
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/11/obama_should_look_to_fdr.html
Posted by: chloe
| November 18, 2008 8:53 AM
"Chloe
Teachers pet, teachers pet, niener, niener, niener."
LOL Jack, One thing I've never been is a teachers pet. Never. I'm too unconventional and rebellious. :)
Posted by: chloe
| November 18, 2008 8:55 AM
The many panic stricken comparisons to the depression is amusing. As grandad would say" this little down turn wouldn't make a pimple on the but of the great deppression."
When Roosevelt took office unemployment was 25% and that was just for the men. For women it was near 100%.
My mother inlaw was old enough that she could remember when they got toys for christmas. Her younger siblings didn't get toys.
What we have going on right now is an old fashion Panic. They happened on a regular basis in pre regulation times and they occurred for many of the same reasons. We had a run on the unregulated banking system.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 18, 2008 9:06 AM
Chloe
I believe you,
You trouble maker, you McCain plant
:-)
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 18, 2008 9:10 AM
I think what we actually have here is a nice going away present for a lot of fat cats and one final last grasp CASH GRAPPLE........it's take the money and run time.....
Posted by: sturgeone | November 18, 2008 9:12 AM
"You trouble maker, you McCain plant"
uh, oh. Outed again.
Posted by: chloe
| November 18, 2008 9:12 AM
Flate.......I cleaned it up for publication........you just cant re-tell 3rd grade jokes in the original 3rd grader's vernacular......entirely too crude and rude......
Posted by: sturgeone | November 18, 2008 9:17 AM
Good morning, Here's an article from Pat Buchanan - As GM Goes, So Goes The GOP
http://buchanan.org/blog/2008/11/pjb-as-gm-goes-so-goes-the-gop/
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 18, 2008 9:19 AM
that woulda been the year ev-lis came on the tee vee......
Posted by: sturgeone | November 18, 2008 9:19 AM
Tom
You ask, in the last couple of days, when was the proper time to put up Christmas lights. I usually do so in the weeks after thanks giving. A few at a time to give the neighbors time to adjust.
However, the new folks down the street have jumped the gun they had lights up this weekend, (very tasteless too I might add). I was going to scale back on the lights this year but I'm afraid this is war.
At least my light show will be tastefully done.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 18, 2008 9:21 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/rethinking-the-former-rivals-m.html#comment-174523
It worked quite well that way before the more obvious exposure under the CQ banner. Unfortunately, the old places kept crashing, so we are stuck with trying to hang on to our kinder, gentler blog with the quirky personality in this very bright lights, big city place.
Posted by: Jamie
| November 18, 2008 9:22 AM
mornin' all.
Not a lot of time today or tomorrow, but I did take a look at some of last night's posts.
Patsi, I heard Hannity yesterday calling the current economic downturn the Obama Recession. He and Dick are tight as ticks. Typical RWNM nonsense - they blamed the 2001 recession on Clinton after rhe left office and are blaming the 2008 one on Obama before he comes into office - despite the fact that it was beginning to crank up before even the primary season began. Here's the RWNM rule: if it's bad, call it something with either Clinton or Obama's name attached; if it's good, call it something with either Reagan or Bush's name attached. Here's an example:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/19/business/economy/19econ.html?_r=1&hp
This is to be called the Obama October 2008 Producer Prices downturn. It's the steepest since the Clinton downturn in '01 after the 9/11 attacks and the Clinton Downturn in '86, which was in anticipation of Clinton's election 6 years later.
Posted by: pogo
| November 18, 2008 9:24 AM
Gay Marriage is Inevitable in the Long Run
The Loving Decision
Same-sex marriage was beaten back at the ballot box. Now here's a history lesson on why victory is inevitable in the long run.
"The world only spins forward.....this is about one of the most powerful forces for good on earth, the determination of two human beings to tether their lives forever."
".........all Americans, "no matter their race, no matter their sex, no matter their sexual orientation, should have that same freedom to marry." ..... That's what Loving, and loving, are all about."
http://www.newsweek.com/id/169157/page/2
Gotta get to work and then run errands. Thanks all.
Posted by: chloe
| November 18, 2008 9:24 AM
"I think what we actually have here is a nice going away present for a lot of fat cats and one final last grasp CASH GRAPPLE........it's take the money and run time....."
I think you are right, sturge....
Posted by: Patsi
| November 18, 2008 9:29 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/rethinking-the-former-rivals-m.html#comment-174547
Swoooooooooosh
once again over the head.
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 18, 2008 9:33 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/rethinking-the-former-rivals-m.html#comment-174534
In some ways, this downturn "feels" worse for many people simply because they no longer have the support system available to most people during the depression and are used to being individuals rather than directly involved in their families and communities.
Three generations in the same home was common. Most women did not work with the exceptions of those in poverty (share croppers), domestic help that often lived with the family, and the "acceptable" professions of teaching and nursing.
In addition, most homes had a produce garden. Women regularly canned their own food, kept chickens for eggs and Sunday dinner. The idea of daily shopping at a supermarket for fresh food was virtually unknown except among the wealthy in which case the merchant often came to you.
The big kicker in the great depression was the ecological disaster of the dust bowl that wiped out so many families.
I'm not sure what the comparison would be for total number of homeless on the street. Given the rise in population, it could be that while the percentages may be lower now, the numbers are acually greater.
This doesn't minimize the Great Depression, but it may explain the psychology of fear or panic that some people today may be feeling.
Posted by: Jamie
| November 18, 2008 9:45 AM
great post, Craig. again, leaders going back in time for change...makes me feel less hopeful and maybe doomed. On the heels of a bailout bust, Mr. Obama needs to become that futurist, not a model of the past.
Posted by: Blonde wino
| November 18, 2008 9:50 AM
"Here's the RWNM rule: if it's bad, call it something with either Clinton or Obama's name attached; if it's good, call it something with either Reagan or Bush's name attached. "
I know, Pogo -- and I well remember during the 1999 campaign, how Bush/Cheney talked down the US economy to the point that I feared they were absolutely manipulating the markets.
Posted by: Patsi
| November 18, 2008 9:53 AM
Thanks for all your 'soundtrack of your life' posts.
When I worked in radio, one of our promotions was "songs you want to run over with a steamroller" -- and we held a summer picnic in our parkinglot, invited listeners to bring 45s (remember 45s? lol) to lay on the ground and we STEAMROLLED 'em. What a blast!!
SO, tomorrow, the top 10 songs you wanna steamroll!!
Posted by: tylenol
| November 18, 2008 9:56 AM
"Tastefully done? somehow I doubt that!"
And once again, the personal insults begin.
Posted by: Patsi
| November 18, 2008 9:56 AM
when paulsen talks, my bull-shit-o-meter goes wild.
Posted by: Blonde wino
| November 18, 2008 9:56 AM
er... i just realized that i didn't make it clear that these are songs (like earwig songs) that you just CANT stand.
Posted by: tylenol
| November 18, 2008 9:57 AM
Craig,
Obama is playing his cards so close to the vest, that I suspect he may be ordering from a chinese menu of possiblities: I'll take Lincoln Lo Mein, FDR Rice, A Carter pot sticker, and a few futurist dim sum.
He seems to be using this time to actually study the issues that will be facing him in January while carefully building a team to handle them.
Everyone else is on the outside peering through the steaming windows .... "what do you think he ordered" "don't know can't see from here". "where's the menu, let's guess"
The problem with talking heads is that while they may fill TV time, they add a great deal more heat and darn little light, and frequently drive public opinion in totally falacious directions.
Posted by: Jamie
| November 18, 2008 9:59 AM
"SO, tomorrow, the top 10 songs you wanna steamroll!! "
I don't know. It's very close to the actions of country stations who brought in steamrollers to destroy Dixie Chick CDs after Natalie made a joke about George Bush. CDs were crushed, and the Chicks were banned at Clear Channel stations. (Clear Channel denied it was a "banning" of course....)
I'll think about songs I dislike...but stop short of a wood chipper.....
Posted by: Patsi
| November 18, 2008 10:00 AM
"when paulsen talks, my bull-shit-o-meter goes wild."
Ditto that, Blonde....
Posted by: Patsi
| November 18, 2008 10:01 AM
"The problem with talking heads is that while they may fill TV time, they add a great deal more heat and darn little light, and frequently drive public opinion in totally falacious directions."
Hear, hear! (We need more like our leader -- who actually thinks before he talks, and looks at issues from several angles.)
Posted by: Patsi
| November 18, 2008 10:04 AM
I'm not sure how BO is going to pull off alot of substantive change. So far, all of the names I've heard mentioned in cabinet are more of the same.
It seems like he's tying himself down with alot of these
people who bring alot of baggage with them.
I hope that he knows what he's taking on.
Posted by: jaxtrader
| November 18, 2008 10:04 AM
Which reminds me of why I started listening to Craig's commentaries lo those many years ago. I first heard him on Imus -- and noticed that while I agreed with him at times, and disagreed at times, I never felt a snarky tone or gotcha moment. He might laugh and make a joke or aside, but I never saw a meanspirited attack.
Posted by: Patsi
| November 18, 2008 10:06 AM
not one mention of the wars and the slow leak of billions over the years...I am so naive to really believe the government can cure (never prevent) the nightmare of their making. Bush impact...will be with most of us to the end of our time.
Posted by: Blonde wino
| November 18, 2008 10:12 AM
Sturg the setup was something like, "The Devil gave him a choice of three doors. The man listened at door number one and heard the most terrible screaming. At the second door there was constant moaning and cries for mercy. Finally at the third door, the man listened and heard the most gentle, calming murmurs. Immediately, he told the Devil, I want to go here! ..."
Posted by: Flatus
| November 18, 2008 10:14 AM
I blogged on some of the problems with Obama's "Team of Rivals" interpretation yesterday:
http://open.salon.com/content.php?cid=45203
I have the feeling Obama will start out wanting to form a "TOR" for noble reasons, but will end up making his choices out of less elevated political realities.
Posted by: Heather M | November 18, 2008 10:15 AM
I second Jamie's Comments Craig.
You comments were appropriately negative and should cause a some great debate. ;0)
So I will just add that Obama's disipline is a breath of fresh air. After experiencing the disipline of the campaign, we are dealing with delibarate and or feeler leaks from now on.
By the end of his term, I bet the historians will begin analysing the "Obama" style of leadership because Lincoln's Team of Rivals can only be a pattern of high the standards that Obama begins with.
Posted by: Chef Sheila | November 18, 2008 10:17 AM
Jax
That is almost inevitable as DC tends to be very internecine. You need a group that knows all the ins and outs of machinations of the Hill. Without them, a President can be completely stonewalled by Congress as Carter found out when he tried going completely with his Georgia team.
I think Obama is trying for balance by using DC power players coupled with his Illinois group and his Democratic supporters from the campaign. (this is said with full knowledge that I, just like the other speculators, I don't have a clue as to what I'm talking about)
I will say that the part of the party and the pundits who don't like the Clintons or the people associated with them and who are biting Obama's ankles about their involvement in this new White House team should just shut up and let the man do what he needs to do for the next month. They can whine later if they don't like the result.
Yowling like scalded cats sounds petty and doesn't reflect well on the President elect.
Posted by: Jamie
| November 18, 2008 10:18 AM
I see the government's main obligation as one of providing liquidity in the monetary system. Along with that liquidity, there should be massive investment in public works infrastructure. That investment should include the obvious roads and tunnels that people know about, but also such things as paintings and sculptures that enrich our existence.
Any cash infusion should be given directly to grandparents on social security. They will pass it on to their children and grandchildren in ways that help Americans rather than our overseas friends.
Posted by: Flatus
| November 18, 2008 10:19 AM
Craig..... scandal crazed bloggers?!!....... why you little...... :0)
Patsi.... I became aware of Craig on a now defunct MSNBC program that aired at noontime called "Coast to Coast"...... the hosts were Ron Reagan and Monica Crowley..... Craig was an occasional guest..... but it was his 2-week stint as guest host replacing Reagan who was away on vacation that made me fall in love with his sense of humor and fairness.....
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| November 18, 2008 10:19 AM
bush is definitely the anti-confidence prez
for these brilliant men to finally see a problem most of us had noticed at least a year before the "crisis" is ridiculous. Listen to the experts? They have all been asleep at the wheel.
Posted by: Blonde wino
| November 18, 2008 10:19 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/rethinking-the-former-rivals-m.html#comment-174572
Renee
I would love to see a team of Ron Reagan and Craig. Doubt it would happen. They are both too soft spoken, courteous, and non confrontational. A show with no screaming is bound to fall in the ratings when compared to the Jerry Springer style political shows.
Posted by: Jamie
| November 18, 2008 10:25 AM
Jamie, you still must go back to the WaPo graphic showing concentric rings of advisers with the very small inner circle composed entirely of Chicagoans.
Based on where the transition is headquartered, and the announcements that have been made, I see little change in the governing circle. I don't think that bodes well; it can cause the perception that the great inclusivity is not genuine.
Posted by: Flatus
| November 18, 2008 10:25 AM
Jamie....
I am in full agreement with your brilliant posting at 10:18.....
Obama's cabinet will indeed be a delicate balancing act.....
it's fun to sit back and watch it all.....
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| November 18, 2008 10:26 AM
must head to work, but I certainly agree about Craig...and he was one of the few who actually answered his email. He is the best and quite humble.
Posted by: Blonde wino
| November 18, 2008 10:28 AM
Jamie,
You're probably right...I obviously don't know much about the DC process either. I didn't vote for BO but that doesn't mean that I don't want him to succeed.
It just seems like he's is going to surround himself with so much old politics that he'll be either be bogged down constantly defending their actions or he'll be watching his back wondering when they'll undermine him.
Posted by: jaxtrader
| November 18, 2008 10:29 AM
Tonight, we're going to have the first hard freeze of the season. Stinky and I cleaned up the tomato patch, and I carried a whole bunch of fire wood upstairs.
So, there's a fire all built in the fireplace just waiting for the right time to set it ablaze. It may cause some soot, but it's not fossil fuel, and much of it comes from thoughtfully harvesting wood from our own property.
We have friends in Cranberry, Pa, (outside of Oil City). They have about 100 acres and have a wood furnace in their home. All their heat is courtesy of Mother Nature.
Posted by: Flatus
| November 18, 2008 10:38 AM
Jack- Do you have white or colored lights? I have a 2 story victorian with an L shaped porch. Usually drape garland and lights around the beams. I'm not sure I'll be able to afford fresh pine garland this year, hopefully it will be on sale. Mostly white lights used around here, but some people did really smart looking jobs last year with color.
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 18, 2008 10:41 AM
There are ants on these doughnuts, and who bought Hazelnut coffee ?
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 10:45 AM
For those of you who were fawning over Barry Manilow yesterday (jamie, ring any bells? -- just kidding, really) Barry was on the Tonight Show as the musical guest last night. I vaguely remember hearing him singing something - I was thankfully exhausted and asleep.
And was that you Jack, who last night mentioned Angel From Montgomery? Most excellent - Bonnie Raitt's version is frickin' wonderful. She did for Prine's song what Hendrix did for Dylan's All Along the Watchtower.
Posted by: pogo
| November 18, 2008 10:52 AM
Anon- He does at times see with great clarity and I have to admit that I like to hear his take on things,
Patsi,- wholeheartedly agree with you re Craig.
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 18, 2008 10:52 AM
I never heard the album Jamie likes so but would definitely nominate "Mandy" for tylenol's next list.
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 18, 2008 10:54 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/rethinking-the-former-rivals-m.html#comment-174575
Flatus, That is the difference between the Cabinet and the Kitchen Cabinet. I'm sure that tightly knit Chicago group will be the "West Wing" team, but the Cabinet will be the public face of the administration. Coordinating the two bodies is going to be a delicate balancing act.
BTW, All this noise about Hillary on the news channels feels like a red herring. They are all chasing after the same shiny thing rumor with full cooperation of the parties involved while not paying any attention or giving a closer look at anything else that might be happening.
Pundits and talking heads just love shiny twinkly things. Oooooh! Lookie lookie! A new sparkly. They remind me of kittens chasing a light spot on the carpet.
Anything to keep eyeballs fastened on the box.
Posted by: Jamie
| November 18, 2008 11:00 AM
OSH
Here is my favorite cut from the album. The lyrics were written by Johnny Mercer and his estate asked Manilow to write the melody.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEpj68Qf5jQ
Posted by: Jamie
| November 18, 2008 11:04 AM
Australia temporarily shuts down navy
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1106ap_as_australia_navy_shutdown.html
______________________
What a headline.
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 11:05 AM
TULSA, Okla. -- Oral Roberts University will lay off about 100 employees, days after it agreed to a near-$450,000 separation agreement with its former president who resigned amid a spending scandal.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1110ap_oral_roberts_scandal.html
-------------
Who the hell names their kid Oral, I've always wondered that .
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 11:09 AM
Anon, that woul dhave been Ellis and Claudia. Considering his oocupation, I assume the young Granville decided to use his middle name on the TV. Fitting, dontchathink?
Posted by: pogo
| November 18, 2008 11:13 AM
Pogo -
It was a simpler time.
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 11:18 AM
Pogo
Barry's voice such as it was went over the hill quite awhile back. It was his ability to write music, orchestrate and play plus the early association with Midler that brought out the showman and thrilled the fanilows into giving him a three decade long career.
There are only a couple of his songs outside of the 2:00 AM album that I like.
Posted by: Jamie
| November 18, 2008 11:24 AM
Wow Jamie, thanks for that, it is a great tune.
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 18, 2008 11:25 AM
ok....
my contribution to Ty's latest list is Manilow's "I Write the Songs".....
whenever I hear it..... I most definitely get the urge to purge...... :)
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| November 18, 2008 11:31 AM
The local talk radio is simulcast on a weather channel on our cable. This morning the discussion centered around their unlimited right to own any and all weapons, regardless of how lethal said weapon. Guess what the constitutional scholars on our talk radio came up with ....... that's oky-doky
They are worried about ammunition however, you can own a M40 recoilless rifle, but the bullets aren't in the 2nd amendment, and cost $50,000 each. That one has them stumped.
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 11:33 AM
This news report just burns my ass...
Banks are such blood suckers
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2008/11/18/foo.elderly.foreclosure.kusi
Posted by: EuroTom
| November 18, 2008 11:35 AM
WiskeyJ / Pogo -
Paradise by John Prine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEy6EuZp9IY
Mine baby mine
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 11:38 AM
"Banks are such blood suckers"
Tom
that is a repetitive statement.
That is like telling me dirt is dirty. It is part of the definition. A smart person knows this when they sign the contract.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 18, 2008 11:39 AM
OSH
If you have ever hung out with a group of musicians after closing time, this one will get to you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGLbZV_7IXs
It is sort of cool jazz with the same idea as Billy Joel's Piano Man. I guess guys who have played small clubs and piano bars have the same sort of ideas.
Posted by: Jamie
| November 18, 2008 11:42 AM
Pogo
make ya a deal---u get rid of wooly bully for me---ill get
red of anticipation for u------i did not read your very mean post wishing me the wooly bully tempo for my run yesterday, but now im hesitant to go cos of my fear of that song,,,,,,i will get rid of anticipation so that when u r in court and u can't get rid of it in front of the judge,,,,in the middle of sentence,,. while speaking to a client,,,,,,now thars a curse for u------lawyer's u can't live with em-----u can't live without em, that last part is a joke,,,,i like lawyer,,they r people too---well most of em:-)))
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 18, 2008 11:43 AM
Nomination for hideous song hits
I Write the Songs and Achy Breaky Heart
Posted by: Jamie
| November 18, 2008 11:43 AM
Pogo----that would be on ty's new 10 list to run over with a steamroller
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 18, 2008 11:44 AM
Hunter Charged After Stray Bullet Kills Toddler
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/18/nyregion/18hunt.html?ref=nyregion
MARYSVILLE -- A 42-year-old man told police that he accidentally shot and killed his 6-year- old daughter Sunday after drinking double vodkas while cleaning guns.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/388155_girl18.html?source=mypi
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 11:46 AM
Anon
Thanks, that is a goodun. I was going to say it was my favorite John Prine song but the I realised I had a whole list of my favorite John Prine song. It all boils down to my favorite is the one I'm listening to now.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 18, 2008 11:51 AM
From the Flintstones file -
Polygamist Group Creates Commune In Utah Caves
Bob started expanding his family - marrying 3 more women and had 28 more children including Melinda Foster Morrison, who says her father's decision to move his growing family to the desert was pure inspiration. After spending 20 days in jail for bigamy in 1974, Bob decided to leave mainstream society.
http://cbs5.com/national/polygamist.cave.homes.2.866760.html
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 11:54 AM
Anon,
As much as I hate drunks carrying fire arms, everyone needs to remember that news is news because it is rare. The number one cause of death in children ages 5 to 9 is unintentional injury with the following percentages in the category:
* Mohor Vehicle Traffic 621 20.58%
* Drowning 159 5.27%
* Fire/burn 153 5.07%
* Suffocation 40 1.33%
* Other Land Transport 33 1.09%
* Pedestrian, Other 27 0.89%
* Struck by or Against 20 0.66%
* Unspecified 20 0.66%
* Fall 18 0.60%
* Other Spec., classifiable 17 0.56%
* Poisoning 15 0.50%
* Firearm 14 0.46%
* Other Transport 12 0.40%
* Other Spec., NEC 8 0.27%
* Natural/ Environment 7 0.23%
* Machinery 6 0.20%
* Pedal cyclist, Other 4 0.13%
* Cut/pierce 2 0.07%
If you really want to keep children from being killed you need to keep them out of cars and swimming pools.
Posted by: Jamie
| November 18, 2008 11:57 AM
"Nomination for hideous song hits
I Write the Songs and Achy Breaky Heart"
alright Jamie!....
you are not a lost cause after all.....
let's add The Macarena to that list......
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| November 18, 2008 11:58 AM
Let me put this on the record: I despise everything about Joe Lieberman.
Posted by: Mr. Democrat | November 18, 2008 12:01 PM
RR
Thank you.
Now go back and listen to those links I put up for OSH :-)
Posted by: Jamie
| November 18, 2008 12:02 PM
"On Election day twelve Obama voters were interviewed extensively right after they voted to learn how the news media impacted their knowledge of what occurred during the campaign. These voters were chosen for their apparent intelligence/verbal abilities and willingness to express their opinions to a large audience. The rather shocking video below seeks to provide some insight into which information broke through the news media clutter and which did not.
... we also commissioned a Zogby telephone poll which asked the very same questions (as well as a few others) with similarly amazing results.
57.4% could NOT correctly say which party controls congress (50/50 shot just by guessing
And 86.9 % thought that Palin said that she could see Russia from her "house," even though that was Tina Fey who said that!! "
http://www.howobamagotelected.com/
Posted by: GORDO | November 18, 2008 12:02 PM
Gas is down to $1.49
so I took $2000 of my IRA out of a S&P 500 fund and bought $1000 each of Ford and GM stock.
I figure it this way both of them are not going to go broke and at least one of them will see stock gains of over 100%. Besides if both of them go broke my IRA will be toast anyway.
The other investment for my retirement account is $2 for 2 lottery tickets.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 18, 2008 12:04 PM
World's Earliest Nuclear Family Found
One of the graves was found to contain a female, a male and two children. Using DNA analysis, the researchers established that the group consisted of a mother, father and their two sons aged 8-9 and 4-5 years: the oldest molecular genetic evidence of a nuclear family in the world (so far).
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/11/081117192915.htm
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 12:04 PM
I am about to go watch The Weakest Link... I have to tell you folks... last night when we were talking about songs and musicians and posting youtube links, it was so much fun really! I want to thank everyone for that. I went to bed with a smile on my face and music playing in my head.
Sometimes it's the silly little things we do that brings much happiness. Thanks again !!!
Posted by: EuroTom
| November 18, 2008 12:04 PM
Mr. D
Full agreement. His actions are bad enough, but when combined with his holier than thou self important ego centricity, he approaches gag territory.
Posted by: Jamie
| November 18, 2008 12:04 PM
Pogo =---same with contractors---some r people too
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 18, 2008 12:11 PM
chloe, thanks for your comments in response to my posts this morning at 6:28 and 6:38 and sorry that you had to endure unwarranted put downs on their account. fyi and others, aside from all the past fundraising she's done for other senators she recently did more for which some should show some gratitude. e.g. karen tumulty, nov 5 time mag, wrote about hrc "campaigning at more than 200 rallies and fundraisers for upwards of 80 candidates across the country"
Posted by: patd | November 18, 2008 12:12 PM
Jamie -
I just put them up because they have a certain random sadness about them, and because these things seem to come in clusters.
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 12:13 PM
Anon, funny story (to me, at least) about that song. I once represented a couple who owned a coal dock on the Mon river, and they loaded coal mined at Peabody mines in WV & PA into barges to go to power plants on the river. They had a contract dispute with Peabody over how much coal they had loaded and how much they should get paid. We had a hearing on a motion to dismiss the case brought by Peabody's counsel - a green, nervous newish attorney who was obviously arguing her first motion before a court. The judge - now on our Supreme Court of Appeals - listened to her presentation without asking any questions, aske\d me to respond, which I did, then started asking her question after question, concluding by saying that if she thought that in his court the largest coal company in the world was going to stiff a couple of hard working folks over a few thousand dollars, she had another thing coming. He denied their motion and dismissed us. As he was coming down from the bench, I could hear him whistling "Paradise".
Posted by: pogo
| November 18, 2008 12:15 PM
Lieberman to keep committee chairmanship
Vote on expelling Stevens from GOP caucus postponed until January
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27782936/
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 12:19 PM
Pogo -
That's a jewel of a story.
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 12:21 PM
RE;
Lieberman
Listen carefully and you can hear the heads spinning out by Firedog Lake.
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 12:24 PM
LOL
The Fun thing about the Senate is how conservative they are. The Senate will change the day the tanks roll through the door and not a minute sooner.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 18, 2008 12:29 PM
President U -Tube pops up :
In Surprise Speech, Obama Promises Global Leadership On Climate Change
By Greg Sargent - November 18, 2008, 11:24AM
Barack Obama is set to deliver a surprise speech via video to the bi-partisan Governors Global Climate Summit in Los Angeles this morning.
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/11/in_surprise_speech_obama_promi.php
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 12:30 PM
The single most important item in news yesterday was the report that Obama will have his laptop on the desk in the oval office. That guy can go on line, and talk to all of us anytime he see's fit. And he's got 10,000,000 email addresses to send his clip to.
Scandal-crazed bloggers indeed.
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 12:37 PM
WiskeyJ -
RE:
Your stock investments ;
Have you considered dutch tulip futures ?
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 12:40 PM
Anon
They are what I call piggy sows.
As I said if they go down the tubes then take your money and buy all the dried beans you can. and a large cooking pot. Because there will not be a thing called money.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 18, 2008 12:49 PM
Farmland Jack farmland.
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 12:56 PM
It's Graham Parker's birthday he's 58.
Graham Parker and The Smithereens - Behind The Wall of Sleep
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bOBOhZYXBM&feature=related
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 1:02 PM
Jamie, thanks again, am glad you exposed to a whole other side of Manilow. It just doesn't seem right what makes a "hit" and what doesn't. I simply didn't know he had done anything to counterbalance "I write the songs" and "Mandy".
Jack- There was a Prine song I use to love in 1978, something about "going to the country, build myself a home". You have any idea what the title was?
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 18, 2008 1:03 PM
Looks to me like Lieberman knows where the bodies are buried.
Posted by: ubns
| November 18, 2008 1:03 PM
Jack, maybe 79.
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 18, 2008 1:05 PM
Solar, been one - well, worked for one - my uncle - and he's certainly a person, and I like to think I was one back then, too.
Not sure what to think about Lieberman - Obama is now stuck with a disloyal hawk in place as chairman of a pretty critical committee. I think it may be more Lieberman having Reid by the cojones than Obama haveing Lieberman by 'em.
Posted by: pogo
| November 18, 2008 1:09 PM
Pogo, good story, love that judge!
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 18, 2008 1:10 PM
Music from Big Pink
The Band - Chest Fever
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9No63MHrjYc
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 1:15 PM
OSH---Do you know what a Magic Jack is?----
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 18, 2008 1:15 PM
Solar- no, is this the start of a joke?
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 18, 2008 1:17 PM
The Band- Don't Do It
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11Y987Uf1wY
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 1:21 PM
OSH--no
it is devise that u attach to the back your your pc that takes replaces your telephone---i have my office in my house and was getting100.00 plus pone bills---now -- 0-- maybe u might be interested in one,??,( i don't sell them) but will give u the info,,,we have two more at the in office.
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 18, 2008 1:22 PM
Solar, sounds like a drug reference to me.
Posted by: pogo
| November 18, 2008 1:27 PM
Who gets award the "scandal-crazed blogger" of the year award? (The Scobby.) I nominate Gordo; lots of effort.
Posted by: blueINdallas | November 18, 2008 1:27 PM
Solar-Sounds neat and thanks for offering up any suggestions. Just went out , bought some eyeliner I had no right to buy, came home and told myself to just stay put, start my winter regime, reading, product planning etc. - won't spend any money that way!!. Have a few questions though. My satellite is reliant upon a phone line- does the magic jack count?
You said you have two in the office. Did you lose your telephone book listings? In my shop I need a phone for the credit card machine as well as a listing in the phone book.
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 18, 2008 1:32 PM
"Roll Away the Stone" -- Leon Russell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XJaDzI_wVg
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 1:33 PM
Pogo---Osh---
and others---if u haven't heard of Magic Jack----go to magic jack.com----it originally cost me 54.00--that includes a one year paid phone unlimited use,,,,it is for country wide use---u can call a loved one, ,,or each other,,,here from TM---it is about 3.00 per month, and can be upgraded for international calls,,,,i cancelled my home phone over 6 months ago----i still use a cell,,but save on the large phone bills???
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 18, 2008 1:33 PM
Osh -----the only thing that is required is fast internet connections----go to magicjack.com for info---u can even talk with a live person to ask any questions
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 18, 2008 1:36 PM
JJ Cale, The Breeze
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21PHsqnG-qI
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 1:37 PM
Reason to bailout Ford if need be....
http://www.thecarconnection.com/image/100170109_2010-ford-mustang
Posted by: Patsi
| November 18, 2008 1:40 PM
Osh ----there is no diff than your existing line now---very little static, and u have to have the pc on all the time, or for the hours that u want calls coming in----fax machine, works,,,it should also work with other needs.....think about it in the terms of E Mail--------with e mail u by pass the post office-----same with this u by pass the phone co, with just veeeery little inconvieneince
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 18, 2008 1:42 PM
OSH....
is this the Prine song you're looking for?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P3FW-YBRwg
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| November 18, 2008 1:44 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/rethinking-the-former-rivals-m.html#comment-174618
Anon,
These events are so tragic when they happen, you can't help but be angry at the stupidity of the parent.
I was just pointing out the hazards that are so much higher on the list that even dedicated parents fail to consider.
Posted by: Jamie
| November 18, 2008 1:49 PM
Magic jack is going to be my choice for christmass gift for some of my family
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 18, 2008 1:49 PM
If you like a good bass line that'll stick in your head -
Garbage - Stupid Girl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N29vkIT3eo
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 1:50 PM
I was away from my puter yesterday, so -- a little late, but here's the soundtrack of my life:
You've Lost That Lovin Feeling - Righteous Brothers
Tears of a Clown - Smokey Robinson
1,2, 3... Len Barry
The Letter - Boxtops
The Weight - The Band
Cinnamon Girl - Neil Young
The Way - Fastball (if you don't know it, U-tube it, it's AMAZING)
Dancin in the Dark - (or Born to Run, makes no nevermind to me) Springsteen
Girls Just Wanna Have Fun - Cyndi Lauper
Papa Don't Preach - Madonna
Posted by: tylenol
| November 18, 2008 1:51 PM
Renee
That was the one I was trying to pull out of my brain. But it wasn't happening. I was telling my self, I know that one it is???? dah da da dah, no it is dah da da dah , lol and so on. I never pulled it out.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 18, 2008 1:53 PM
RR -
It's the one I was trying to remember, thanks.
Eat a lot of peaches.
Jamie -
True True
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 1:56 PM
Osh u don't cancel the phone line---just the phone and in the process the phone bill
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 18, 2008 1:59 PM
traffic - forty thousand headmen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQmwQ-Mc_Os
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 2:04 PM
and Jamie? You were right, it was much harder to pick 10 than I had imagined. How 'bout this one? haha.. Tom Jones' songs were so un-hip they were cool!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfaNCRAFuek
Posted by: tylenol
| November 18, 2008 2:04 PM
haha..and I defy ANYONE to NOT do that hip-push on the drumbeat!! hahaha
Posted by: tylenol
| November 18, 2008 2:06 PM
Cream - I'm So Glad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiMCqTQ4jjc
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 2:07 PM
RR- Holy shit you found it! I've been looking at Prine song lists for years and never could find it. No wonder, never would of guessed that title. Thank you so much, it just makes me happy listening to it. My friend and I use to like to cruise around on country roads (when Kissimmee Fl was the country) on our day off with this tape and a 6 pack. Can't do that anymore!
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 18, 2008 2:11 PM
I'll check it out Solar, Thanks.
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 18, 2008 2:12 PM
Howlin' Wolf - Smokestack Lightning (1964)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LNt5J0Cesc
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 2:17 PM
My nomination for earwig song - steamroller song - whatever --
seasons in the sun, terry jacks
I was in radio then, that friggin song played every 20 minutes, and because it was Canadian Content, you could not bring in any station that wasn't playing it. I still drive into the ditch every time I hear it.
Posted by: tylenol
| November 18, 2008 2:19 PM
OSH
It is all John Prine's fault that I'm married. My wife would play John Prine on dates, every body else she dated made fun it.
I started singing along with the tunes. It wasn't long sfter that she broke my thumb and being crippled I couldn't run and was helpless.
lol
Spending your first date in the emergency room does make for an interesting story.
For us the full moon in May is the moon of the broken thumb. We celebrate it as our anniversary.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 18, 2008 2:24 PM
Muddy Waters plays "Manish Boy"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5IOou6qN1o
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 2:26 PM
I'm gonna bring back the 2nd cousin that's "Little John the Conquer Roo"
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 2:32 PM
Oh hey, I didn't realize that people were creating a "soundtrack" of their lives! I'll write mine soon!!!
Posted by: EuroTom
| November 18, 2008 2:35 PM
Damn...time to go to work... youtube is all consuming!!
Posted by: tylenol
| November 18, 2008 2:35 PM
Little Red Rooster by Big Mama Thornton
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ycw4uaXPRU
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 2:37 PM
Ty, for tomorrow-
1. In the year 2525 - Zager & Evans
2. McArthur Park - Richard Harris
3. You're having my Baby - Paul Anka
4. Macarena - Los del Rio
5. Wake me Up before you gogo - Wham
6. My Heart will go On - Celine Dion
7. Achy Breaky Heart - Billy Ray Cyrus
8. Separate Ways - Journey
9. Seasons in the Sun - Terry Jacks
10. Muscrat Love - Captain & Tenille
(And just about anything by Cher, especially Can You Fool, with Greg Allman)
Posted by: pogo
| November 18, 2008 2:41 PM
Dream Lover - Bobby Darin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdLn-QhRSB4
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 2:43 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/rethinking-the-former-rivals-m.html#comment-174674
I would think that EVEN the Bush admin. would try to be facially neutral in its last minute pro-religion anti-abortion rulemaking. Guess not.
Posted by: pogo
| November 18, 2008 2:51 PM
POGO... OMG you know the song Can You Fool? WOW !!!! It is from one of the "Lost Albums" Allman and Woman: Two the Hard Way
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D_RNlGgy-c
One of my favourites from the album is Cher's solo: Island
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKjHx_xGaXg
Posted by: EuroTom
| November 18, 2008 2:54 PM
Here's another last minute reg that Congress or Obama will need to rescind.
http://greeninc.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/18/in-waning-hours-bush-administration-fortifies-oil-shale-industry/?hp
Oil shale - worst possible source of carbon energy.
Posted by: pogo
| November 18, 2008 2:55 PM
Them - Baby Please Don't Go (1964)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9X6HFwXjgI
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 2:55 PM
ET, I'm a huge Allman Bros. fan - have gone to see them since they were the Allman Joys. That is the worst song ever done by any member of the Allman Brothers - even worse than Dickie Betts at his solo worst - at least he has good guitar solos in his worst songs. There is no redeeming value that I can find in Can You Fool.
Posted by: pogo
| November 18, 2008 2:58 PM
Oh Pogo, now you disappoint me! I love that song !
Posted by: EuroTom
| November 18, 2008 3:00 PM
songs that have held significant meaning in my life:
"I Am What I am" performed by George Hearn in the Broadway musical "La Cage Aux Folles which I saw it's opening week! It was 1981 (as I recall) and I had just "come out" to my family and disappeared for 10 days in NYC, confused and nervous. When this song was played I felt reborn, even more so than when I did the 'born again Christian' thang. For an upper midwest boy from a homophobic family, that sound spoke VOLUMES about my life and it was an important step of finding more clarity about me and the world around me.
I just found this video of George performing the song live in 1996, 15 years after I saw him on Broadway. Now, a few moments after watching it, I am as profoundly moved by the performance. WOW. I have chills!
Move over Gloria, this song belongs to George, and Mr. Jerry Herman, once of the best musical composers of all time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCDEgBOagC0
Posted by: EuroTom
| November 18, 2008 3:09 PM
Hey Pogo
Eat a Peach!
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker
| November 18, 2008 3:09 PM
avast, ye scurvy dogs. another ship taken.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7735507.stm
Posted by: patd | November 18, 2008 3:11 PM
Plastic Fantastic Lover - Jefferson Airplane
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62RyP3tf-tI
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 3:12 PM
Grab your kickers kids -
Fortune Teller - Krauss and Plant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7RLjMmY5Q8
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 3:15 PM
OSH....
I used to be a HUGE John Denver fan...... back before he made Rocky Mountain High and was popular..... he recorded that song on one of his early albums..... I didn't have a clue what it's title was..... I just googled the first line of the refrain ..... "blow up your tv"..... and there it came up..... it's actual title is "Spanish Pipedreams"......
and because of Champ's insistence we'd all be better off if we blew up our tvs.... I dedicate my favorite version of the song to him.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j805xYochIA
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| November 18, 2008 3:17 PM
piracy incidents map so far this year.
hoist the flag and shake your booty
http://www.icc-ccs.org/index.php?option=com_fabrik&view=visualization&controller=visualization.googlemap&Itemid=89&phpMyAdmin=F5XY3CeBeymbElbQ8jr4qlxK1J3
Posted by: patd | November 18, 2008 3:18 PM
Robert Plant & Alison Krauss- Gone Gone Gone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WRm3VsmXRE
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 3:18 PM
KC, the last and best IMHO album with Duane.
Posted by: pogo
| November 18, 2008 3:21 PM
Another song that means a lot to me... is LOVE HURTS... This is from the 1975 album STARS that Cher made. Her voice in this version gives me chills; it was released in 1975.. another significant message which became even more so for me after a few failed relationships...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLeZd95AbHA
A song about loss and searching for new meaning... MANY RIVERS TO CROSS.. performed by the absolutely HOT Lenny Kravitz...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr1S8HWSWf4
Posted by: EuroTom
| November 18, 2008 3:23 PM
I like the Tom Jones version of Joe Cocker's "You Can Keep Your Hat On"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGBvbrXNjs0
Posted by: Jamie
| November 18, 2008 3:25 PM
Randy Newman's "You Can Keep your Hat On".......
and number one of all time for me:
Cheri beri bin........Harry James.
Posted by: sturgeone | November 18, 2008 3:32 PM
Craig has threatened us with media "lurkers" before. The lab rats aren't behaving themselves today. Here we should be obsessing over impending financial doom, cabinet appointments, senatorial ejections, and Presidential malfeasance and what are we doing? Playing with You Tube.
The Thanksgiving holiday is starting early. Put our feet up, kick back and smile happily until the innauguaration as we become the Mad Magazine of blogdom ... "What Me Worry".
Posted by: Jamie
| November 18, 2008 3:36 PM
Apparently you guys haven't moved to ty's songs you want to steamroll category for tomorrow. Just so there's no mistaking my intent - that's what my list is in response to.
Posted by: pogo
| November 18, 2008 3:36 PM
The Under Assistant West Coast Promotion Man
http://mp3.rhapsody.com/player?type=track&id=tra.2726272&remote=false&page=&pageregion=&guid=&from=&pcode=rn&hasrhapx=true&__pcode=
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 3:38 PM
This song by Placido Domingo with John Denver opens my emotions! So beautiful ... trying to define love even when it's hard to define.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YnfCH7LNcM
Another song that touches me is TOP OF THE WORLD by the Carpenters. It means so much to me because it's a song of promise and my Gram loved the song so much. I LOVE SINGING with it... Oh yeah, sentimental me cried when Karen Carpenter died in 1983. It was an autumn day, but it was already winter in my heart.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIDZAJoXLvI
Posted by: EuroTom
| November 18, 2008 3:38 PM
patd -- That piracy map is stunning....
Posted by: Patsi
| November 18, 2008 3:39 PM
A little of this and a little of that, jamie.
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/18/live-blogging-the-senate-automaker-hearings/index.html?hp
Here's live blogging from the auto bailout hearing.
Posted by: pogo
| November 18, 2008 3:39 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/rethinking-the-former-rivals-m.html#comment-174701
Sturgeone
If you are going back that far, then the response is
Perfidia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-vo-w-D4W4`
Posted by: Jamie
| November 18, 2008 3:46 PM
Riders on the Storm by the doors is a song that makes both categories for me.
If you just let the music and Jims vocals wash over you, what a great song.
If you stop and listen to the lyrics, lol what a goof.
"his brain is squirming like a toad"
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 18, 2008 3:46 PM
I woke up this evening and I got myself a beer.......
Yeah, woke up this evening and got myself a beer......
Posted by: sturgeone | November 18, 2008 3:50 PM
The Day I Joined The Rolling Stones
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Xp9jcIVvNY
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 3:52 PM
Bill Wyman's Rhythm Kings - Anyway the wind blows
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxLrgDBlKwI
Bowl leggid woman do the boogaloo
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 3:57 PM
Is it a done deal?
Obama team counting Senate votes on Holder as AG
Obama team canvassing senators on whether Holder would be confirmed as attorney general
http://www.newsweek.com/id/169694
The Swamp was predicting it back in August.
Eric Holder joins Obama
"Given Holder’s credentials, it isn’t outside the realm of possibility to suggest he could wind up the nation’s first African-American attorney general should Obama win the White House."
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2007/08/eric_holder_joins_obama.html
Posted by: chloe
| November 18, 2008 3:57 PM
well I am done... so many songs... music really is the : sustenance of my life. When I was a little kid I didn't have a security blanket like other children; I always had a stack of 45 rpms on my little fingers... at that time it was Peter Pan records. :-) (and the chipmunks!).
I will add a song that played during the time I had my first boyfriend.
Ironically called "Do That To Me One More Time" - Captain and Tennille :-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSWxgMlsOyU
It's almost bedtime for me....
Again this is fun... ;-)
Posted by: EuroTom
| November 18, 2008 3:58 PM
ET- before you go to bed, tell me how I can post YOUTUBE stuff on the blog.
Posted by: rosiethecat
| November 18, 2008 4:01 PM
"When I was a little kid I didn't have a security blanket like other children; I always had a stack of 45 rpms on my little fingers.."
Tom, That is so precious. :)
Posted by: chloe
| November 18, 2008 4:01 PM
I do wish MSNBC would stop running that Hitchens remark about Sen. Clinton. When I want advice from an egocentric drunk with an over inflated estimate of the value of his opinions, I'll ask for it.
They have been running it into the ground. It must have been the only quote they could find opposing her for SoS
Posted by: Jamie
| November 18, 2008 4:04 PM
And ET-do you remember those Disney records we got when we were children and our parents got a fill-up at the gas station?
Posted by: rosiethecat
| November 18, 2008 4:05 PM
Rosie, you just google the title or the artist name.
When the search page come's up, hit more (on the top left of pg.)
Then hit YouTube.
Go to the You Tube link of your choice (there'll be a selection).
Then, when you find the one you want, highlight the address bar and paste it on your comment.
Posted by: chloe
| November 18, 2008 4:09 PM
Creedence Clearwater Revival - Born On The Bayou
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIjUY3pjN8E
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 4:12 PM
Chloe thank you! xoxoxox
Rosie, just copy the link and post it here...
I have to tell a story about me and the little 45 rpms.. One time I walked too far away from home and my grandmother got worried... She asked my mom if she had seen me, and suddenly they realized I was missing, so of course they panic and call the police. I actually was walking "to work" (you know how a baby's head thinks) and i stepped into some mud and sunk in it. I will never forget how scared I was. I couldn't get out and I was crying and crying. Some girl found me and pulled me out; the mud was up to the crotch area. I was really little because I couldn't even tell them where I lived. She took me to her parent's home and they took off my jeans and I was just in my underwear. I had my 45 rpms with me and they let me play them.
Meanwhile the police came and they went to this swamp close to the house and started feeling around there. My Gram said at that moment she became so faint sitting in the back of the car, a sense of horror that never left her. (I was destined to be a dramatist in my life). Anyway, no me.. but then a report came over the radio "The baby Freeman boy has been found and is at ... " (I don't know the address). I will never forget. My Gram shows up with some policemen, and there I am playing records in my little underwear and I look up and say "Hi Gram!". I was totally into playing my records. My Gram had a blanket and wrapped me around it and took me to the car and we went home. I suppose I thought it was a fun adventure; it never occurred to me that something was wrong. I had my 45s and someone let me play their record player: all was good in the world !!!
All through life, whenever we'd go to any restaurant, I ALWAYS went first to the jutebox and I would beg to have money to play some songs. And i dreamed of being a radio DJ, and when I finally was able to do that, it was awesome!
well thanks for letting me share....
Rosie, I would get Disney albums too. I had Cinderella, Jungle Book, Uncle Remus and some others... oh yeah and some Disney record "It's a Small World After all" !! Anyway, this is why I keep sharing songs because I still love it and even when people are hurt or angry, music can heal and bring us together.
I am off to bed... thanks again all.
Posted by: EuroTom
| November 18, 2008 4:17 PM
Chloe
Go to this website
http://www.youtube.com/
In the search box, type in the name of the song you want
A whole group of options will pop up so that you can select the version or performer you like for that song if it is available. Click on the one you want
It will pop up and start playing. Off to the right are two lines of code. One reads "URL" and the other reads "embed"
Click on the one that says "URL" and copy it.
Come here and paste.
The "embed" is for inserting a video into a blog if you have one. I use them there all the time for my blog
Posted by: Jamie
| November 18, 2008 4:18 PM
I like that even better. Thanks.
Posted by: chloe
| November 18, 2008 4:19 PM
I don't know how to cut and paste. I'm very, very new at computers.
Posted by: rosiethecat
| November 18, 2008 4:22 PM
Tina Turner .... river deep, mountain high
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULw1RHHPv5g
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 4:26 PM
While holding down your left click, slide your mouse cursor over the address that you want to copy (this will highlight it). Once it's highlighted, right click it and click on copy.
Then come over to the blog, in the comment area, left click where you want to put it, then right click and you''ll get the menu that will say paste. There's not much to it, but I'm going to look for the site I linked for Bethy when she was learning it...
Posted by: chloe
| November 18, 2008 4:28 PM
Rosie -
How to cut and paste -
http://www.lollie.com/happy/cutandpaste.html
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 4:29 PM
Argh! I have a mac!
Posted by: rosiethecat
| November 18, 2008 4:31 PM
wow.... so many great stories today....
first pogo's judge..... then Jack's broken thumb..... and now ETom's being lost with his records.....
Rosie.... if you have a Mac..... I'll try to answer you questions.... if you have a PC.... there's plenty of people here who will walk you through anything concerning them.....
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| November 18, 2008 4:32 PM
oops..
Posted by: chloe
| November 18, 2008 4:32 PM
Here's one from the AARP -
http://www.aarp.org/learntech/computers/howto/a2002-07-16-cutpaste.html
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 4:33 PM
Rosie.....
I have a Mac too..... just click on the address you want to post and it will automatically highlight in blue....
then click on Edit on the top toolbar and click on copy....
come back here to the comments box..... click on the box and it will outline in blue...... then click back on Edit.... and click on paste....
the address will automatically appear in the comments box....
but make sure you click on this comment box and get it to highlight in blue first or it won't work.....
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| November 18, 2008 4:35 PM
rosie -
Cut and paste on a mac
http://web.utk.edu/~ssherril/New%20CCI%20w%20rollovers/cutpasteMac.html
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 4:38 PM
Argh! I have a mac!
Which one ?
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 4:40 PM
mac and cheese on a roll.......
Posted by: sturgeone | November 18, 2008 4:40 PM
"That piracy map is stunning"
patsi, yeah and disturbing too. a pirate here and a pirate there was just interesting news, but when i saw the map wow. something very strange is going on... has a suspiciously organized look about it.
Posted by: patd | November 18, 2008 4:42 PM
iMac os Xleopard 10.5 Shit! I thought I had it but it literally went 'poof'. I have the mac for Dummies, but I need the book for complete idiots.
Posted by: rosiethecat
| November 18, 2008 4:44 PM
Dire Straits - Heavy Fuel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71XtQ4HbDHo
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 4:45 PM
pirates, shmirates...
sturge, you buying?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-svlRdTZ9M
Posted by: patd | November 18, 2008 4:47 PM
Keep hackin' Rosie, you'll have that light blub moment.
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 4:47 PM
Rosie, Follow Renee's instruction, and just keep messing with it until you get it. It takes time, but you will. It's always hard the first time.
Posted by: chloe
| November 18, 2008 4:48 PM
Rosie....
keep trying.... after you're successful once you'll think..... "boy that was easy"....
using a Mac is a breeze..... it's so intuitive.... I used PCs for years and got this Mac 1 1/2 yrs ago..... I'd never go back....
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| November 18, 2008 4:49 PM
Dire Straits "Skateaway"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjDD30FjwdM
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 4:50 PM
Rosie, If you start with the address bar of trailmix and left click it you can practice from this site. When it turns blue, then follow Renee's steps. That way you'll be here to ask questions.
Posted by: chloe
| November 18, 2008 4:50 PM
Rosie....
I have a library trustee meeting tonight.....
I will have to leave soon..... but I'll be back around 9pm EST.....
I'll answer any questions (if I can) then if you ask them while I'm gone....
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| November 18, 2008 4:55 PM
The Skateaway girl has a music player on her hip that looks like a tackle box, and she's approaching 50.
Ugh !
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 4:55 PM
Rosie, you still here?
Posted by: chloe
| November 18, 2008 4:58 PM
Chloe -
There's no left click on a mac.
To paraphrase John Houston :
We don't need no stinkin' left clicks.
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 4:58 PM
Yeah! Just beating my head. My mouse dosen't have left and right buttons. It's just one big CLICK.
Posted by: rosiethecat
| November 18, 2008 5:00 PM
Oh......That's why Renee just said click.....one clicker??
Posted by: chloe
| November 18, 2008 5:00 PM
Ok, I finally got ti to say COPY under the EDIT file, but dang if I can get it to say PASTE
Posted by: rosiethecat
| November 18, 2008 5:04 PM
Rosey, Do you know what we mean when we say address bar. Right now, your's should say: http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/rethinking-the-former-rivals-m.html at the top of your page. From what Renee said, you just point your mouse over that address bar and click it (with the one big clicker):)
And see if that turns it blue.
Posted by: chloe
| November 18, 2008 5:04 PM
Rosie....
that's correct..... you only have to click anywhere on your mouse.....
let me give you a simple exercise.....
go to the comments box here..... point on the box.... click the mouse..... it will highlight around it in blue..... then click again.... the highlighting will go away....
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| November 18, 2008 5:05 PM
I'm trying to learn the basics Bri. I get by with a little help from my friends.
Posted by: rosiethecat
| November 18, 2008 5:06 PM
With the passing of my friend, a contractor that i knew over 25 years,,,it just dawned on me, that there are only two people left that i can do a deal--job--with out a complicated contract--just a little verbal agreement and hand shake,,, and never a problem---this am i subed out a little job and had a contract ready for it
My friend and i used to say--------giving u my word is the one thing that i can keep
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 18, 2008 5:08 PM
Rosie....
it won't say paste until you have an address copied.....
and you have to click on the comments box first..... then go back to edit.... then click on paste.....
I know you can do it!
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| November 18, 2008 5:08 PM
That's it Rosie, you have to stay offline until you find the ignition switch, it's right by the heater knobs.
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 5:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZOxaBW3Xn8
Oh! Thank you guys! I've been wanting to share this song for soooo long.
It's very beautiful and sad. OH THANK YOU ALL!
Posted by: rosiethecat
| November 18, 2008 5:10 PM
oops sorry to interfere with rosie's pc help
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 18, 2008 5:12 PM
You know I'm getting really pissed with the moaners and groaners about Obama possibly appointing Clinton. Are they trying to cause conflict and cripple the man before he ever takes office?
The Clinton appointment is a great idea with or without Bill. They wouldn't look at the wife of a man in a similar position. These two are respected around the world. It shows both daring and courage on Obama's part. She brings the support of half of the voters in the Democratic party with her.
At least let the new President screw up before you start trying to tear him a part.
Posted by: Jamie
| November 18, 2008 5:13 PM
Rosie
Cut and paste
You take an exacto knife and carefully cut around the outline of the object. then you open the jar on the paste and carefull dab paste on the backside(don't be messy and spill it everywhere). then stick it onto your grid paper where you want it.
See its easy.
Whats that?
Oh computers, Rosie never mind
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 18, 2008 5:14 PM
alright Rosie!
thanks for the utube song...... yes it was beautiful but sad....
see..... wasn't that easy once you figured it out.....
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| November 18, 2008 5:17 PM
McCain's wife is an (ex)drug addict. Nobody made a big deal about that.
Posted by: rosiethecat
| November 18, 2008 5:19 PM
Rosie
I'm going to have to go back to my office and plug in the speakers, this laptop doesn't give the song justice. Thanks I always enjoy finding new stuff.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 18, 2008 5:21 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/rethinking-the-former-rivals-m.html#comment-174771
Well except for some netroots ninnies. But with the lieberman vote we know thier place in the cosmos
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 18, 2008 5:24 PM
Thinking about the Lieberman vote today the netroots has a lot in common with social conservatives in the Republican party. Ya'll got to be feeling used and abused.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 18, 2008 5:28 PM
I drink alone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISmgOrhELXs
Posted by: chloe
| November 18, 2008 5:29 PM
Rosie -
Mac people are more fun -
Ask any question you ever have (24/7), tons of people will help you.
Bookmark this one :
Our discussion forums are filled with thousands of Macintosh, users from around the world.
http://discussions.apple.com/index.jspa
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 5:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysXMAOgEIq4
correct link - nite
Posted by: chloe
| November 18, 2008 5:31 PM
Oh, come on ANON. Do you really think I know how to bookmark? I can type words and push enter. Thats about the extent of my abilites.
Posted by: rosiethecat
| November 18, 2008 5:36 PM
I've got to leave now....
since Rosie got it.... I probably won't be back tonight.....
see you all tomorrow..... have a nice night....
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| November 18, 2008 5:37 PM
Chloe
I'm groovin on the first link
One bourbon, one scotch, one beer, ooooooohhh yeah
I'll listen to the second after the first finishes
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 18, 2008 5:39 PM
Jack, You make me laugh so much......
Ok, really out of here now.
Posted by: chloe
| November 18, 2008 5:41 PM
Rosie....
before I go..... you go, girl.... you are doing spectacular..... :0)
I happen to be lucky enough to have a husband who works for Hewlett Packard....... he helps me with this machine all the time.....
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| November 18, 2008 5:42 PM
OK rosie -
Open that link I posted , along the top of the screen you'll see Bookmarks, click it. the first thing you'll see is :
Bookmark This Page,
click that. You're done.
How long you had your Mac ?
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 5:45 PM
Those apple discussions will be big help at 4 AM when you're stuck, trust me.
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 5:50 PM
Jack- Thanks for that sweet story- will dedicate and toast to you and the Mrs. next May's full moon celebration!
I nominate "short people" by Randy Newman and "yummy, Yummy, Yummy" = Ohio Express for Ty's list
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 18, 2008 5:52 PM
The latest from AK:
Looks like we'll have another Dem senator
Appears Begich's lead has doubled over Stevens to 2,300+ with @10K more ballots to count.
http://www.adn.com/elections/story/593530.html
Posted by: Rezdog
| November 18, 2008 5:53 PM
Top 10 Songs to Steamroll
I begin with hits that were insipid, incongruous, or mildy moronic. However, with My Way, we reach hits that displayed profoundly disturbed mental and emotional states : megalomania, depression, severe autism, sadism & solecism. Perhaps someone else can characterize the worst of this lot, I can't - it's just too hideous to contemplate.
10. See You In September - Tempos
9. La Bamba - Mormon Tabernacle Choir
3. People - Streisand
4. Go Little Honda - Beach Boys/Hondells
5. The Ballad of the Green Berets - Sgt Sadler
5. My Way - Sinatra
4. In My Room - Beach Boys
3. Time After Time After, etc. - (?)
2. The Complete Works of Eminem
1. Yummy Yummy Yummy I've Got Love in My Tummy - 1910 Fruit Gum Company
Posted by: xrepublican
| November 18, 2008 5:56 PM
Well there's 2 soft Republicans in Maine.
That's getting pretty close.
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 5:57 PM
Well
I made a little money on my GM stock today, about enough to buy me a double duce of budwieser. I heard today the bad news, budwieser can no longer wrap itself in the American flag. It is now a foreign company. What can I say, habits die hard.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 18, 2008 5:58 PM
XR
That's a real sink_o_rama you got there.
YUMMY YUMMY YUMMY I got ......
Posted by: Anon | November 18, 2008 6:00 PM
I'm sorry, is Yummy Yummy the Ohio Express ?
How could I have done such a thing to those hapless dopes at the 1910 Fruit Gum Company Syrup Factory ???
I shall commit hara kiri as soon as I verify....
Posted by: xrepublican
| November 18, 2008 6:02 PM
sharpdressed man
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW_QCRGvT-g
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 18, 2008 6:02 PM
Xrep
Aren't they the same people?
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 18, 2008 6:05 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/rethinking-the-former-rivals-m.html#comment-174768
Jamie,
I couldn't agree with you more. The media always howl indignantly about "Clinton Drama," but the fact is it's a totally symbiotic relationship. The media GENERATE Clinton drama because they are addicted to it and are then able to bash the Clintons over it.
Now Politico is posting a blaring headline "Hillary Might Reject State Offer." Well, that's news to me...how can she reject it if she hasn't been OFFERED it yet? Oh, wait. That's right. The press has already prematurely reported that the job has been offered to her, even though there's no hard confirmation that it has. Still, that chew toy is getting boring. So let's make up a NEW story. That's she's going to REJECT the offer. Now THAT's some good drama.
And on and on it goes. And somehow, the Clintons get blamed for it all -- even though the only crime they've committed is simply to exist.
This same dynamic played out a million times in the primaries. It's totally horrible journalism. The worst of Washington pack journo garbage.
Posted by: LardassLiberal
| November 18, 2008 6:05 PM
Anon-I bought it in late Sep. I got it with the extra money Palin got for us for our PFD :) I've never even had a job where I did anything except just simple input on a computer. I did take a little in tech. school right out of high school. I learned some Basic. HaHa. In college I took lotus 123 and word perfect 1.5. I think 'dinosaur' is the word they use for folks like me.
Posted by: rosiethecat
| November 18, 2008 6:06 PM
You all may not believe this but this song was written about me, Honest.
"Bad To The Bone"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7VsoxT_FUY
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 18, 2008 6:06 PM
if it aint bud ---it aint beer----i refuse to drink anything other than bud-----sometimes dos XX amber
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 18, 2008 6:08 PM
Oh c'mon Jack. We all know you're just a big softie on the inside, way before you even get close to the bones.
:)
Posted by: LardassLiberal
| November 18, 2008 6:08 PM
Thank heavens ! I found a 1910 Fruit Gum Company cover off the hideous piece. You can get it as a ringtone, if you want people to know that you are a cheery cannibal. Anyqay, now I'm off the hook for the hara kiri bit. Too bad, eh champ ?
Also discovered that Judy Collins covered it in the '60s.
Whathehell was she thinking ? ? ?
Posted by: xrepublican
| November 18, 2008 6:11 PM
Lardo
"All I can say is I never intentionally hurt anyone"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VO6bI-xrj8
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 18, 2008 6:12 PM
Xrep
Come on clip on some other youtubes get it out of you mind.
I dread the subject of the worst ear worms in the world.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 18, 2008 6:15 PM
SolarCrete,
Now that Bud is Belgian, they are making a sort-of-Belgian style ale called. highly ironically, "America."
Have you tried it ?
It's a little too sweet for me, but not as syrupy as a cream ale. I'd buy it again.
Posted by: xrepublican
| November 18, 2008 6:18 PM
Rosie---u r doing fine---took a lot of courage to start writing on a blog---nice song
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 18, 2008 6:20 PM
Solar
I was weaned on bud. Went straight from the tit to a bottle of bud. I will drink a corona once in a while and Dos Equis ain't bad. But they are all foreign beers now. If I'm going to drink a domestic beer it will have to be one of those fou fou beers
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 18, 2008 6:22 PM
Waylon Jennings - Rainy Day Woman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1lhzi4uU8o
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 18, 2008 6:24 PM
xr---ill know the diff---if they try a switch
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 18, 2008 6:25 PM
This is for Jack. I'm an old punk rocker, and the ex-hubby was a skateboarder.
It might be a little too...edgy for ya.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR8UcVruNgE
Posted by: rosiethecat
| November 18, 2008 6:26 PM
Stevie Ray Vaughan - Superstition
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX-GJ46kiCo
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 18, 2008 6:29 PM
Solar-I always liked watching Craig on the news, so this was one of the first places I came to when I got my mac. I watched for a while, and most everyone seemed cool. A blogger named Hyppocritta snarked at me on my very first blog and I almost said "screw it" But I hung in a realized most were not like him at all. I'm glad I stayed with it :)
Posted by: rosiethecat
| November 18, 2008 6:30 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/rethinking-the-former-rivals-m.html#comment-174808
Jack,
Tail end of WW II. Dad stationed in Walla Walla. mother and baby take very long bus ride to join him. Run out of bottles and one very crabby baby ends up in officers club with baby being passed from man to man who hadn't seen their own children for four years, while mother goes to kitchen to make some more formula. Returns with bottle only to find baby merrily sucking on a beer .... "But, she kept crying out ba ba"
Sorry, I don't remember the brand. :-)
Posted by: Jamie
| November 18, 2008 6:31 PM
How could I have overlooked 'Love Hurts' yesterday ?
Orbison and Nazareth also treated itone with respect. It's one of the few songs that gives me chills. Another is the Flamingos, I Only Have Eyes For You.
Posted by: xrepublican
| November 18, 2008 6:34 PM
SolarCrete & WhskyJack,
Summit Ale and India Ale are both studly.
Leinenkugel Lager.
I could make a suggestion for a US owned & built rice beer. Alas, I can't.
Yup, Bud is distinctive. Clean, crisp & ricey.
Posted by: xrepublican
| November 18, 2008 6:38 PM
Jack
all i can say is this---some times when i have worked of hot day for 8-12 hrs all i want is a near to freezing bottle (not a can) of bud--------i used to tell this really nice looking bar tender that the first bottle ( not the 2nd) was better than sex-----that minx used to offer me sex when it was 80-90 degree out,,and saw me comin all full of crete and all---all i wanted was to be nursed by my bottle of bud :-)))))) that and a good patsi cline song---and off to the races
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 18, 2008 6:41 PM
Editing errorz again. I meant, I WISH I could recommend a US owned and built rice beer. I am ignorant of any good ones. Tried to make some once myself - the first time I tried forment anything besides my garbage. It was just more garbage.
Anyway, the first person who finds one ought to report it.
Posted by: xrepublican
| November 18, 2008 6:43 PM
"Return of the Grievious Angel" Gram Parsons & Emmylou Harris
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7w8vIVnVhc
Posted by: Bowmanc
| November 18, 2008 6:44 PM
Jack, cook your own--it's therapeutic. And tastes good.
Posted by: Flatus
| November 18, 2008 6:45 PM
Solar-How about Patty Page?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvlT61Hs_Kc
Wee! this is fun.
Posted by: rosiethecat
| November 18, 2008 6:49 PM
"The Ballad of the Green Berets - Sgt Sadler"
ROFL-- XRep -- Sadler the lunatic. He once threatened to shoot me in a Nashville bar.
Posted by: Patsi
| November 18, 2008 7:01 PM
Rosie----keep experimenting with your computer ---it won't break------i locked myself in my basement until i figured it out---im only at about 80% of what a good operator is---but i an very persistent and will never give up on something that i want------and i can tell that u r too-----it used to tell me to go and find something else to do, and stop fin hurting it haha---it feels good huh.
patty page yes----i love all music---used to love to dance------u might not believe this---but i have never bought a record or tape or anything in my life---it seemed like music was always around, every where,,,my wife has tons of 45's 78's elvis nut---i even like rap,,if it is in good taste--my favorite is smooth jazz,piano jazz, good instrumentals ,,,,,i have never listeend to the words too much,,just the music.
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 18, 2008 7:04 PM
Patsi, Sounds like he would get along with you know who.
Posted by: Bowmanc
| November 18, 2008 7:06 PM
Jes'um Patsi, what did you say to him?
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 18, 2008 7:09 PM
LA Times/Jonestown and "Confirmation Bias"
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-shermer18-2008nov18,0,2806746.story
Posted by: Patsi
| November 18, 2008 7:13 PM
"Jes'um Patsi, what did you say to him?"
Among other things, to STFU. Even some of my friends had moved from the table by that point.
Posted by: Patsi
| November 18, 2008 7:15 PM
Was he singing The tale of the green beret?
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 18, 2008 7:17 PM
This was in the early 80s. Sadler was a complete raving lunatic by then, getting ready to move to Guatemala and start guerrilla wars.
Posted by: Patsi
| November 18, 2008 7:20 PM
I realize I'm setting myself up, but the truth is: All roads lead loonies to Nashville.
Posted by: Patsi
| November 18, 2008 7:23 PM
or Martha's vineyard. We call it the open air asylum!
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 18, 2008 7:27 PM
Sea -- maybe everyone feels that way. Back in the 70s, one of my husband's old army buddies came to see us. He was from Arizona and complained that California had run out of room for tjhe crazies and they were spilling over the border. :)
Posted by: Patsi
| November 18, 2008 7:34 PM
Patsi- true enough. by the way, anything left over for the open house?
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 18, 2008 7:45 PM
Patsi,
Well, some of those crazies ended up in New Hampshire as part of the "Free State Project" Fortunately not as many as they want. Take a look at the attached link if you want to see what they are up to.
http://www.freestateproject.org/
Posted by: Bowmanc
| November 18, 2008 7:45 PM
Why I love BBC America: Major news coverage today on the collapsing bee colonies in Britain (the bee keepers were picketing parliament for $8 million pounds for research) and the locust infestation in Australia. Both are actually very important issues in relation to the environment, but the chances you will get a whole ten min segment to cover it in depth in an American news show: Zilch.
Posted by: Jamie
| November 18, 2008 7:53 PM
Sea -- No -- unfortunately. When I described the candies to my kids over the weekend they demanded I share -- so I UPS-d them the rest!
Posted by: Patsi
| November 18, 2008 7:55 PM
Jamie, they are an active group, have seen the beekeepers on before, thought they were great then.
Patsi- oops, well at least you didn't make them disappear on your own!
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 18, 2008 7:58 PM
Rosie
Your not into punk until you are into Romanian punk
Now that is cutting edge ;-0
Los Pogos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKNgI_tbmPo
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 18, 2008 7:59 PM
"some of those crazies ended up in New Hampshire as part of the "Free State Project" Fortunately not as many as they want. Take a look at the attached link if you want to see what they are up to. "
Damn! Bow -- am I reading this right? They want more guns and more drugs?
Posted by: Patsi
| November 18, 2008 8:00 PM
They closed with clips of the new movie "Australia" that comes out Thanksgiving weekend which is on my must see in the theater list. Nicole Kidman, Hugh Jackman, and the WW II bombing of Darwin. Romance, scenery, and heroics ... who could ask for more.
Posted by: Jamie
| November 18, 2008 8:03 PM
You know nothin can convert you to believing in gun control better than being around a bunch of drunks shoot skeet. It is a bit like bird hunting with Dick Cheney.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 18, 2008 8:03 PM
Don't worry Patsi, all the sane people have guns here too.
Posted by: Bowmanc
| November 18, 2008 8:11 PM
It is easier to get a permit to carry a pistol/revolver in New Hampshire that it is to get a drivers license.
Posted by: Bowmanc
| November 18, 2008 8:14 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/rethinking-the-former-rivals-m.html#comment-174796
Hey Lard
Oh boy, do you and Jamie have it right,I'm pissed,can a Larry King segment be far behind??? I just don't understand how Hill's life can be reduced to her husbands business dealings?Isn't she a person in her own right? I don't watch MSNBC!! I love Craig, but not enough to even watch the clips he posts of his appearances with KO.Thank you Jamie for letting me know what I'm missing,I'll skip it,I'm pissed just the same! T
Posted by: tonyb39
| November 18, 2008 8:17 PM
"Bill is going to have to agree to having certain limitations placed on his business dealings as long as his wife is SOS."
lol
Sure he is.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 18, 2008 8:29 PM
i still hope, that HRC, tells Obama to take his job and stick it up his ASS. She better not fall for this, it is only another ploy by Obama, and The DNC, to keep her from running in 2012. Obama, sure has alot of questions he wants answered, by everybody else. To bad, he didn't have to answer all those same questions, he now wants others to answer.
Posted by: Lampe | November 18, 2008 8:30 PM
Jamie -- all this talk about Barry Manilow reminds me of something I've recently seen or read....Someone, a person seemingly unlikely, was listed as a huge Manilow fan -- might have been a pro-football player, or a macho actror -- and damn it I cannot remember who the person was!
Posted by: Patsi
| November 18, 2008 8:30 PM
I also hope Hillary turns down this job. All it does is set her up for more bashing, and to take the fall if the world doesn't "Change."
Give it to Kerry.
Posted by: Patsi
| November 18, 2008 8:33 PM
uggh! Anybody out there on a mac that knows the easiest way to add a shopping cart to a website built on dreamweaver?
We've been working on a variety of options for about a week and are about now pulling our hair out.
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 18, 2008 8:42 PM
"Barack Obama's incoming administration is unlikely to bring criminal charges against government officials who authorized or engaged in harsh interrogations of suspected terrorists during the George W. Bush presidency"
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jNJh9ZFMqkoehf9byAYKGnm-EKYQD94H27D80
My expectations for the incoming administration have never been high but I hope this is just a bit of rumor.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 18, 2008 8:47 PM
Jesus cont
During the feast of passover in 50 a.d. A roman soldier pulled up his tunic and farted into a crowd of pilgrims and temple worshipers.The less restrained of the young men and the naturally tumultuous segments of the people rushed into battle writes josephus. The Roman neaby infantry was called in, creating a gigantic panic in which, according to josephus 3,000 were trampled to death---Jesus's attack on the temple had coincided with the reaction of mobs of pilgrims like those who died in the panic o 50 a.d. Led the jewish and roman authorities to wait until night fall to take jesus into custody---Something close to a general revolt developed in 52 a.d. Under the leadership of Eleazer ben Deinaios, a revolutionary bandit, who had beem in the mountains for almost twenty years. The governor Cumanus, rounded up Eleazars followers killing still more. But the disorder spread and all over the country plundering went on and the bolder spirits rose in revolt. The Syrian legate intervened, beheaded eighteen partisans, and crucified all of the prisoners who had been rounded up by Cumanus.The revolt was finally crushed by a new governor, Felix ( no not felix the cat smart ass) who captured Eleazar and sent him to Rome, probably to be strangled in public.The bandits whom he crucified says jjosephus and the local inhabitants in league with whom he caught and punished were too many to count.
In Jerusalem, assassinations by dagger men who concealed their weapons inside their garments now had become common. One of their most famous victims was the high priest jonathan. In the mids of all this bloodshed, military-messianic contenders appeared again and again, Josephus refer to one set of messianic leaders as scoundrels in act less criminal but in intention more evil, who did as much damage as the murderers—cheats and deceivers. Claiming inspiration, they schemed to bring about revolutionary changes by inducing the mob to act as if possessed, and leading them out into the wild country on the pretense that there God would show them signs of approaching freedom.
Felix interperted this foray s the first stage of a revolt, and ordered the roman cavalry to cut the mob to pieces. Next came a Jewish Egyptian—false prophet.He collected several thousand dupes, led them into the desert, then turned around and tried to attack jerusalem—providing confirmation , if the romans needed it that all such people were politically dangerous.Hosephus give the following picture of the situation in paleestine about 55 a.d.
The religious frauds and bandit chiefs joined forces and drove number to revolt, splitting up into groups they ranged over the countryside, plundering the houses of the well-to-do, killing the occupants, and setting fire to the villages, till their raging madness penetrated every corner of judea. Day by day the fighting blazed more fiercely.
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 18, 2008 8:48 PM
I just got back from my meeting and checked to see if Rosie had any more questions.....
OSH.... I don't know anything about websites or dreamweaver...... sorry, I can't help you....
Bowman..... we don't own any guns..... but then..... we aren't really normal either..... :)
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| November 18, 2008 8:49 PM
Meet the new boss, He's the same as the old boss
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 18, 2008 8:55 PM
rr- thanks anyways, wanted to ask you where you sell your scarves?
Lampe- If you are still there, wanted to say hello and am sorry that I didn't jump into the fray with you a few weeks back, instead I just got disgusted and walked away. I've been feeling pretty lousy about.
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 18, 2008 8:58 PM
"Truthfully it was the constant rerunning of Hitchens today that had me boiling. If there had been a way to punch him in the nose through my TV screen, I would have."
Hitchens is such a friggin' drunk -- and my GAWD he seems to want to live in Bill Clinton's short!
Posted by: Patsi
| November 18, 2008 8:59 PM
that would be shorts...
Posted by: Patsi
| November 18, 2008 8:59 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/rethinking-the-former-rivals-m.html#comment-174864
Jack,
It may be that there are so many horrendous problems with what is shaping up to be a major world wide economic down turn that they want this stuff to go away as quietly as possible. Close down Guantanmo. Release any that should be released. Try the rest here as required and get on with the business of getting out of Iraq, righting the economy and deal with the environment. Those Crises are so much more important that they will leave Bush criminality to the history writers.
Posted by: Jamie
| November 18, 2008 9:03 PM
The Who, We Won't Get Fooled Again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3mi-bKtDGA
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 18, 2008 9:05 PM
Jack
As a p.s. Holder will have his hands full cleaning up the Justice department and giving the Gonzales screwups the heave ho.
Posted by: Jamie
| November 18, 2008 9:07 PM
Thats what we will do just sweep it all under the rug and hope someone writes a book about it. Mean while nothing changes and Obama gets to use the tools if he wishes.
Meet the new boss..............
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 18, 2008 9:09 PM
on that I'm out of here
Up early to get some work done tomorrow.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 18, 2008 9:10 PM
Jack
I think a lot of the Bush "imperial presidency" will be corrected. Just getting Holder in there will help with that. It's why I picked him for the cabinet. He is absolutely steeped in the ethos of Justice and won't be a rubber stamp and boot licker the way Gonzales has been.
Posted by: Jamie
| November 18, 2008 9:13 PM
Good night all
Posted by: Jamie
| November 18, 2008 9:17 PM
Good night Jamie.
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 18, 2008 9:18 PM
Begich lengthens his lead to 3,000+
Posted by: xrepublican
| November 18, 2008 9:20 PM
Leo C. Donofrio NJ lawsuit, US Supreme Court Appeal, Update November 18, 2008, Obama not eligible
http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2008/11/18/leo-c-donofrio-nj-lawsuit-us-supreme-court-appeal-update-november-18-2008-obama-not-eligible/
Posted by: GORDO | November 18, 2008 9:28 PM
So nobody wanted to enter into my project of a list of most sensual erotic songs? Surprised...
I think in some instances you can equate a person with an event - not link to, but actually give the person a weight that matches any event, even un-connected.
To me, W has been another 9/11. His whole term in office has been as damaging, as deadly, as world-altering as 9/11. I don't mean he caused it or handled it badly (altho he is guilty of the latter)- I mean he has been literally another 9/11 that has lasted 8 years.
I'm not sure I want to see Hillary as Sec State, but not because I think she can't handle it. I still have no reason to trust the Obama group.
I'm also concerned at the draining of democratic senators.
Christopher Hitchens used to amuse me with hisoutspoken comments MANY years ago, but I could never get past his status of poseur. He has obviously studied Hemingway and a number of other drunken disheveled cigarette-smoking dillitantes, and made a career out of it.
When he went on his ride of disdain for Mother Theresa, I was interested since I was never in awe of her. About that same time I tried to read an article he wrote for a book review section - maybe Oxford review but some high tone review - and it was so full of classical allusions that there was no article. He was so full of awe for his own education, he didn't use that education to think and offer insight.
Hitchens is a professional shocker - that's what he does and how he makes a living.
Posted by: bethyboo
| November 18, 2008 9:40 PM
Jesus---cont
By 66 a.d. The bandits were every where, their agents has infiltrated the temple priesthood and forged an alliance with Eleazar, the son of the High Priest Ananias..Eleazar issued a kind of declaration of independence. An order preventing the daily sacrifice of animals dedicated to the health of Nero,, the reigning emperor. The pro-roman and anti-roman factions began to fight in the streets of jerusalem...dagger men( i think that some of the apostles were dagger men) freed slaves, and the jerusalem rabble led by Eleazar on one side, the high priests, the Herodian aristocracy, and the roman royal guard on the other.---Meanwhile in the backlands, Manahem, the last surviving son of judas of Galilee, stormed the fortress of Masads, equipped his bandits with roman weapons taken from the armory, and marched on Jerusalem,bursting onto a chaotic scene, Manahem took command of the insurrection-like a king,says Josephus. He drove out the Roman troops, gained control of the temple area, and murdered the high priest Ananias.Manahem then decked himself with kingly robes, and followed by a train of armed bandits, prepared to enter the sanctuary of the temple, but Eleazar, possibly to avenge his fathers death, ambushed the cortege, Manahem fled but was captured and pout to death by prolonged torture.
The Jews fought on , convinced that the real messiah would yet appear.after the Romans had suffered several reverses, nero called in his best general, Vespasian, veteran of the compaings against the Britons. With 65,000 men and the most advanced forms of military engines and siegecraft, the Romans slowly regained control of the smaller cities. On Neros death in 68 a.d.Vespasian emerged as the favored candidate for emperor. Assured of all the men and equipment he might need, Vespasians son Titus finished the war. Despite fanatic resistance, Titus broke into Jerusalem in 70 a.d. Set fire to the temple and looted and burned everything in sight.....Reflecting that the siege of Jerusalem had cost the Jews over one million casualties, Jjosephus bitterly denounced the messianic oracles,,there had been terrible portents---bright light on the alter, a cow that gave birth that gave birth to a lamb, chariots and regiments in arms speeding through the sky at sunset,,,but the bandits and their execrable prophets missed these signs of doom. These cheats and false messengers beguiled the people into believing that supernatural deliverance would yet be theirs...(how can we—modern man still believe in this???)
Even after the fall of Jersulem, the bandits still could not believe that Jahweh had deserted them. One more heroic effort---one more blood sacrifice,,,,and Jahweh would at last decide to send the true anointed one...As I mentioned before the last sacrifice took place at the fortress of Masada in 73 a.d.a descendent of judas of Galilee, exhorted his remnant force of 960 men,women and children to kill each other rather than surrender to the romans-------To sum up: between 40 b.c. And 73 a.d. Josephus mention at least five Jewish military messiahs , nnot including Jesus or John the Baptist> These are Athrongaeus, Theudas, the anonymous scoundrel executed by Felix, the Jew ish Egyptian false prophet , and Manajem. But Josephuys repeatedly alludes to other messiahs or prophets of messiahs whom he does not bother to name or describe,(xr u missed these since they r not in the good book—only bs) In addition it seems to me very likelly that the entire lineage of zealot, bandit guerrillas that descended form Hezekiah through Judas of Galilee,,,Manahen, and Eleazar were believed by many of their followers to be messiahs or propheets of messiahs ,,,,In other words,,,at the time of Jesus,, there were as many messiahs in Palestime as there are today cargo prophets in the southseas.
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 18, 2008 9:40 PM
Hey Gordo, Did you see that full page ad yesterday?
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 18, 2008 9:40 PM
Bethy-----sorry i did not answer your question about Steven S. series,,,no i have not but will take a peek and see,,,,,thanks
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 18, 2008 9:45 PM
Bethyboo- didn't see it, good idea, will post those tomorrow, already did the worst. Torch songs.....,
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 18, 2008 9:45 PM
Only have one more long post---or two short ones left on the Messiahs expose-------there is one on the secret of the prince of peace that is a hummmdinger-------but i will only post if u want me to go on---it takes into account his life in pretty good detail---let me know.
Ok XR---or is it Lex Luthor with the kryptonite ---blast away if u can hahahahahaha
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 18, 2008 9:53 PM
Please do Solar.
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 18, 2008 9:57 PM
SolarCrete,
Sorry, I was on a conference call. Yes, of course I wanted you to continue.
Posted by: xrepublican
| November 18, 2008 10:46 PM
Bethy,
Lots of "sexy" songs, but I prefer hints and wordplay so
Bewitched, Bothered, and Bewildered (original lyrics)
Mentioned "You Can Leave Your Hat On" earlier
For a hot affair that's over: It Was Just One of Those Things
I'll think of more.
Posted by: Jamie
| November 18, 2008 10:49 PM
Jamie
I listened to whiter shade of pale 2 times today---it sounded and felt just like the first time that i ever heard it
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 18, 2008 11:00 PM
Biiiiian---oh Briiiian---hey were did u go-----u know we----they all talked about music all day today------what the hell do they think this blog is about huh a friggin radio station or someting,,,,,ill back u up in the morning ---lets tell them tthat they can't do that----i got your back
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 18, 2008 11:04 PM
Bethy----booked marked it--thanks
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 18, 2008 11:07 PM
Solar
Looking forward to your next posts.I love history of any kind,religious,U.S.,World,Music.Please keep them coming.Your,Your,Your the Greatest.....
Posted by: tonyb39
| November 18, 2008 11:11 PM
Ok Solar
Your right I was being a smart ass,HA HA!! No 32 degree spurt ,Please....I'll be looking you though when we need rain! Thanks for the magicjack.com tip it looks interesting.Off to bed..Sleep well all..
Posted by: tonyb39
| November 18, 2008 11:29 PM
Two strangers are walking down the street. One stumbles on an irregularity in the sidewalk and says, "God !"
The other guy says, "I didn't come here to have you inflict your religion on me."
Posted by: xrepublican
| November 18, 2008 11:34 PM
Patsi,
I seem to remember the same thing about an seemingly incongurous Manilow fan.
OJ ?
Posted by: xrepublican
| November 18, 2008 11:38 PM
Lampe----thank u---night
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 18, 2008 11:42 PM
Cheney indicted in Texas
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5h9PvQtj8plxTnRZS7hHmJap_Rt2AD94HOCQ00
Posted by: Jamie
| November 18, 2008 11:44 PM
Dam' Jamie !
You just made me the happiest guy in the Northern Hemisphere. Please, keep the good news coming.
Come awn Baby,
Let the Good Times roll,
Roll all night long.
Feels so goooood....
Posted by: xrepublican
| November 18, 2008 11:53 PM
solar.........looking forward to more of the religion posts.....pay no attention to the Dweeb behind the curtain.........
Posted by: sturgeone | November 19, 2008 12:38 AM
"The religious frauds and bandit chiefs joined forces "
And the world rolls on! Thanks for that one Solar!
Posted by: Patsi
| November 19, 2008 12:51 AM
"To me, W has been another 9/11. His whole term in office has been as damaging, as deadly, as world-altering as 9/11. I don't mean he caused it or handled it badly (altho he is guilty of the latter)- I mean he has been literally another 9/11 that has lasted 8 years."
Perfect description, Bethy -- plus, love your analysis of Hitchens!
Posted by: Patsi
| November 19, 2008 12:59 AM
Who is it wants to punch that bigot, hitchens, in the nose ?
Give him one for me, will you please ?
Falling asleep. Maybe time to say G'night.
G'night.
Posted by: xrepublican
| November 19, 2008 1:03 AM
"I seem to remember the same thing about an seemingly incongurous Manilow fan.
OJ ?"
Nope -- someone cooler that the Juice....
Posted by: Patsi
| November 19, 2008 1:15 AM
I went to see Barry Manilow perform once.........it was a great show........enjoyed his act immensely...........
Posted by: sturgeone | November 19, 2008 1:18 AM
bethyboo & Patsi,
But, babybush DID cause it. A bi-partisan commission headed headed by Rudman and Hart recommended on January 3, 2001 that all US airlines harden the cockpits of their planes. babybush said that it would cost millions, and the airlines were already in financial trouble [ ! ] . Estimated cost $23 MM
If we had hardened those cockpits, the al qaeda hijackers would have found themselves on the wrong side of the locks. They would have been captured, with very little loss of life, and no loss of buildings.
baby bush was warned that al qaeda was going to try something big. However the warnings were ignored because the bush crime family was concentrating on saddam. Years before, rumdumb, drunken dick, and senile bush had supplied saddam with the stuff to make CWMDs years and they knew he had gotten the package in the mail, 'cause he had used them to exterminate 10,000 Kurds. That turned out to be an embarrassment. Then that idiot (technical term in politics) trio grabbed defeat from the jaws of victory in '91.
In '01, the Houston oil Billionaires and drunkendick said that the price of oil was too low. Well, what would remedy that situation faster than a nice war in the Mid East ?
In short, little twerp bush, the drunk, and the 'efficiency expert' were determined to ignore al qaeda and bring saddam to heal. Besides, in the middle of the night, Jesus told the little junkie to go wreck Iraq. SolarCrete can blame Jesus D for being a lousy advisor( : >D)< but I blame babybush & the republicans for 9/11 and all the horror that followed.
I must go now and dream sweet dreams of dick drying out in a South Texas jail where there are 3 guys for every bunk, and the food is weak coffee and frijoles X3 per day.
Night, night.
Posted by: xrepublican
| November 19, 2008 1:37 AM
Sorry, that 'D' following Jesus is a typo. Ya just can't get good proof readers and typists anymore.
Posted by: xrepublican
| November 19, 2008 1:42 AM
Oh, Sturgeone. Ya, WAAAY cooler than the juice.
I never understood what people had against Manilow.
Not my type of music, but so what ?
I see him as a sort of laid and mellow back Liberace, who writes his own stuff, and is kind to old people. He doesn't get into brawls over dope, or spend time behind bars, and he wears his slacks above his hips.
Now, I've really got to go to b
Posted by: xrepublican
| November 19, 2008 1:54 AM
Instead of starting the day, this time I'm ending it.
tt
Posted by: tiptoe
| November 19, 2008 1:56 AM
X -- and Jamie -- Also, Manilow contributed to both Hillary and Obama...can't be all bad.
Posted by: Patsi
| November 19, 2008 2:56 AM
I'll probably re-post this article tomorrow morning...because it's important...more Bush-BS waiting for President Obama...
http://www.takepart.com/2008/11/18/bush-administration-turns-appointments-into-civil-posts-in-interior-department/
Posted by: Patsi
| November 19, 2008 2:58 AM
XR - I won't argue with you re whether W caused 9/11
cuz I can see the possibility. He has been way more than a disaster.
Maybe Craig can tell us if we are straying outside the bounds of his intent for this blog.
Posted by: bethyboo
| November 19, 2008 3:15 AM
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