Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

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Blue,
If you are still around DSM and want to meet up, let me know. zoeyp2001atyahoodotcom

I'll dig up Spike for the occaision.

hi zoey

zoey, our photo is my favorite of the campaign:

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/craigzoey.JPG

even more favorite than my Obama Girl pic:

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/obamagirl_web.jpg

Obama 319 McCain 219...Obama + 5

Thanks Craig. I was glad we got to run into each other since it will probably be awhile before we are in the same place at the same time.

Craig -- flattery will get you everywhere with Zoey....

Zoey -- Dig me up? All you have to do is wait until after dark and knock on the crypt...

i get to McCain 205 mainly because i don't think Obama wins Missouri -- too many Catholics and evangelicals, McCaskill notwithstanding

Zoey to Craig -- "I was glad we got to run into each other since it will probably be awhile before we are in the same place at the same time."

Don't forget, the 2012 Iowa caucus campaign starts in about 5 months...

spike (and zoey), i hate to say it because i love you guys but i am FED UP with Iowa (unless Florida is allowed into the mix)

Doonesbury predicts winner

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20081031/Obama.Doonesbury/

and incidentally, the Republican campaign begins at midnight on Nov. 5

or 11pm, when i'm hearing the networks expect to call it for Obama

Damn, Craig...that shore iz two purty ladies you have posted pics of!
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I could have voted early...it's closer than where I have to vote on 11-4, but I decided to wait...it's just a big deal to vote on election day for me, and I have only voted in 9 presidential elections ...my tenth is special!

Iowa does have a strangle hold on the electoral process and it isn't pretty, but then I really, really hate the caucus system.

well, dexter, you found my all-favorite video of 2008, and i'll forever be grateful:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtLPhDgMSlk

U mean Candy Crowley?

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/my-electoral-college-predictio.html#comment-166946

Your correct Craig, but I meant we'll actually have candidates on the ground here about March, 2009. At least that's about the same amount of time after the 2004 election we started seeing candidates.

yeah, Craig...that is indeed one heckuva dog!

i want to be that dog

"State officials say there's no doubt Barack Obama was born in Hawaii"

ROFL G Man, tell us who you would believe if you think the State Health (vital stats) officials lie.

Dexter, I feel the same way about going to the polls. You reminded me about the number of Presidents I've voted for. My first was 1968 as well.

Oh boy! I CAN'T wait until McCain goes on SNL ! (Yawn...)
BTW...that crazy appearance McCain made in Defiance, Ohio Thursday was just 15 minutes from my house (next town from me). My neighbor went and said the big crowds were 90% little school kids that were forced-bused in...

BTW, Intrade.com is now taking trades on the 2012 Presidential Futures Market:

Republicans available for trade (so far):
Huckabee
Jindal
Palin
Romney

Democrats available for trade (so far):
Obama
Clinton

Gordo, why not let Obama paraphrase Tito the Builder: Born wherever, but MADE IN THE USA

jamie...my first was 1972, for McGovern. This will be my tenth. For Obama.

Oh...a Huckabee sighting...only a nanosecond as I flipped past Faux Noise....

Out at the casino tonite, there was a contest for best costume by employees and customers. I wonder how many people this year went with an Ashley Todd look. I saw one of each with a backwards B and J .lol

dex, your dog video has inspired me -- i'm off to the tub. thanks again.

Craig,
"dex, your dog video has inspired me -- i'm off to the tub. thanks again."

Will there be video involved?

Craig - From OT - Nope, haven't moved to Des Moines yet, but I keep threatening folks here. Traffic was a mess due to Barak-fest downtown; heard him over the loudspeaker as we sat in traffic on the way to where we were going.

i saw where the Governator was criticizing Obama for his physique. Damn, is there nothing off limits with these goopers.

Good night all.

Thom Hartmann suggested there are three types of undecideds:
Those that don't know/don't care what the hells going on and will vote willy nilly on the 4th; those that don't want to tell or let anyone know their feelings and those that say they're undecided and probably won't vote at all. Interesting.

ET,

Only for you.
Today when I picked my wife up after her work at TESC, I asked her if anyone was unusually costumed for Halloween. She just laughed and said that's it's hard to tell at Evergreen.

I do not have the ability to make a prediction.

Same thing with Jamie's horse races. ;-)

tt

Rezdog -------------------

"State officials say there's no doubt Barack Obama was born in Hawaii"

My response:

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/checkmate-in-florida.html#comment-166911

Proves nothing. The question still remains -- why does he REFUSE to make public certified hardcopy BCs and other documents? If the HI official is telling the TRUTH, then why doesn't SoetorObama authorize the release of all hardcopy BCs?

Still serious citizenship questions and the possible use of a name(BHO) for about 30 years that is not his legal name.

Craig---------------

"Gordo, why not let Obama paraphrase Tito the Builder: Born wherever, but MADE IN THE USA"

MADE = created

I'll not go into this (tin -foil world), but that might be an accurate description.

It proves a lot! Who the hell are you! You're not anyone official. You didn't bother to address the question I asked, just your spin to a statement. Something you always do.

"tell us who you would believe if you think the State Health (vital stats) officials lie."

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/my-electoral-college-predictio.html#comment-166981

c'mon tiptoe, you can do it. play with our electoral map and make your predicition:

http://innovation.cq.com/prezMap08/?tab=2

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/my-electoral-college-predictio.html#comment-166983

ha, GORDO, there's HOPE for you yet

Rezdog ---------------

It proves ZERO !!!

Make ALL the documents public. That includes hospital records (which hospital -- two have been named) and everything necessary to PROVE that he is Constitutionally qualified. Let's see the certified hardcopy records.

Do you believe government officials never lie? What cave have you been living in?

You do understand (was explained several days ago) that a HI birth certificate can be issued to an infant born in another state and even outside the US.

SoetorObama continues to stonewall. This issue is not going away. If he wins, plans are being formulated to stop him in the Electorial College (heard it discussed tonight on a netcast).
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Electoral College

"In 2008, it will make this selection on December 15. The Electoral College is an example of an indirect election.

Electors are technically free to vote for anyone eligible to be President, ..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Electoral_College

ELIGIBLE ELIGIBLE ELIGIBLE

You're nutz Gordo,

"HI birth certificate can be issued to an infant born in another state and even outside the US."

The Director said no doubt he was born IN Hawaii. Dummy.

Still, who in the world would you believe? In my mind, nobody!

So this is all about casting doubt. "You don't want to know the truth."
LOL

Rezdog ------------

"The Director said no doubt he was born IN Hawaii."

How do we know the Director is telling the TRUTH?

Why does SoetorObama refuse to release certified hardcopy documents that can be examined by a panel of document specialists?

Even if he was born in HI, it's very likely he lost his "natural" born status. Problems with Indonesia and Kenya.

Need to see this:

"Certified copies of Obama’s Application and Admission forms for Occidental College, Columbia University and Harvard Law School"

What did he list as his nationality? Was it Indonesian or Kenyan?

What is SoetorObama hidding? Plenty !!!

Ping - was this directed at me? I ask because my name is Bethy, not Betty. Also, I'm not sure what you're referring to here if I am indeed the intended recipient - are you referring to the letter from the Blue states? If so, that was a joke and I didn't write it - couldn't have and actually wouldn't have. I don't think like that but thought it was funny and wanted to acknowledge someone else's handiwork. I find your comment a little nasty - I don't think I've ever posted anything nasty to you. I actually don't even think in insulting terms - I don't want to.

""Betty do you have any understanding of Capital stucture..... ah no need to waste my time.""

Posted by: Ping Pong | October 31, 2008 9:51 PM

In re Lampe's post: I don't see that as racist. She (not he) sounds very frustrated to me. Are you forgetting that Lampe is black?

Bye Gordo

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/my-electoral-college-predictio.html#comment-166967

1980 was my first vote. I voted for Jimmy Carter on the same day I registered to vote in Minnesota. I was pissed when he lost. I worked as a volunteer in Seattle for Mondale/Ferraro... we won Seattle SIGINIFICANTLY, at least 70% as I recall but still lost KING county. 88 I voted for boring Dukakis and then, of course '92 and '96 for Bill Clinton.. my first ever times to have chosen the winning candidate. Gore 2000, didn't care about Kerry but still voting for him (why are Massachusetts candidates so boring?). and 2008 Barack Obama which I am cautiously hoping will win the election. Oh yeah the first vote... I was not 18 until August 1977, so I just missed the '76 election. I would have voted for Carter then too, but in retrospect, I think Gerald Ford was a true gentleman and if someone of his stature was in the Republican party today I would vote for them (depending on the opposition).

Gordo, nice photo...

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k189/boredbotting/tinfoilhat.jpg

Obama 374 McCain 164 Obama +12

Jamie time to start a new pool -

It is probably the second-most-pressing question circulating in the salons of Washington’s media elite: Who will be the permanent host, or hosts, of the NBC program “Meet the Press”?

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/01/arts/television/01meet.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/my-electoral-college-predictio.html#comment-167003

BO has palestinian leanings? Since ween?

For me, I care very little about

my goodness.......John Cleese has called Bill O'Reilly a most curious word........ he called him a "berk", which he then explained is cockney rhyming slang and short for Berkshire Hunt. the translation i leave to google.

I hear McCain was responsible for a lot of money which was given to Khalidi......$400 thousand or so.....

O.....383
Mac......155

McCain 272
Obama - the remainder

Off to swim districts

our task for today, crawdads, is to find a better word than "landslide" for the msm to use the next few days.

"avalanche" is just too scary and too much like being buried by big hunky rocks. so too, but damper is "tsunami".

so how about "earthquake" or "flood" or " scree" or???

"But the scariest thing McCain has said — worthy of Scotland Yard’s “Black Museum” of horrors — is one I’ve barely seen commented on.

I heard him say that when the White House phone rings at the dread 3 o’clock in the morning, you don’t want someone picking it up who has to take time to “think and analyze the situation, but someone who will act.” This, coming from a man with the “thinking and analyzing” traits of a snapping turtle cannot help but bring the Cuban missile crisis to mind — and what the world might be today had the Arizona senior been in charge. If it (the world) would even be at all."

---Dick Cavett, in his blog at the NY Times

deluge as in "apres moi"

Sentimental Favorite: Mudslide

Obamalanche

Tsubami

Standing O-vation

ha.....we have a lady democrat ( for whom my daughter says I must vote) (actually, I thought she should know better......Ain't I a democrat?) (apologies to Sojourner Truth) running here in SC who has been accused of being a liberal by her opponent, an old fat white man...........So her latest ad says....."I am NOT a liberal, I'm a business woman."

woids woids woids and south carolina......an unending source of amusement.

John McCain: 275
Barack Obama: 263
Popular Vote: Obama +0.5

a dollar for mr ping:

http://www.jonco48.com/blog/zero_20bill.jpg

The Ass and the Mule
A MULETEER set forth on a journey, driving before him an Ass and a Mule, both well laden. The Ass, as long as he traveled along the plain, carried his load with ease, but when he began to ascend the steep path of the mountain, felt his load to be more than he could bear. He entreated his companion to relieve him of a small portion, that he might carry home the rest; but the Mule paid no attention to the request. The Ass shortly afterwards fell down dead under his burden. Not knowing what else to do in so wild a region, the Muleteer placed upon the Mule the load carried by the Ass in addition to his own, and at the top of all placed the hide of the Ass, after he had skinned him. The Mule, groaning beneath his heavy burden, said to himself: "I am treated according to my deserts. If I had only been willing to assist the Ass a little in his need, I should not now be bearing, together with his burden, himself as well."
---Eye soap.

Sturg, sorry you're in an area without kids--Halloween is a special journey into escapism, a road that we should all travel every once in a while.

We had about 50 kids stop by. Without exception they were delightful--even the young teens. And, they were unfailingly polite.

I'm looking forward to next year!

Well, I guess Mr Obama is going to have a chance to show his support for protecting our borders:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081101/ap_on_el_pr/obama_aunt

275-McCain
263-Obama

Really, I have no idea and little interest. Mr Nader is on C-Span right now.

flatus.....I'm just the opposite......I have no interest (in the actual numbers) and little idea.

If you missed Charlie Rose last night with the pollster from 538 (short) and then two long interviews with Charles Schumer and David Brooks. The subjects were the current campaign but with Schumer the whole financial mess both its causes and resolution plus what the next President will be facing.

Brooks went over the split in the modern Republican party and was bot wistful and funny.

I looked on the Charlie Rose site, but the video isn't up yet.

We're looking at a borderline mandate...
378 Obama
160 McCain
6.7% margin (lunatic precision)

I do have one prediction. If it appears as if the contest after the voting is close, and one or two states could turn the tide, it will be James Baker who will determine the winner--and, it won't be Mr Obama.

from what I hear mr baker might be up against an angry army of democratic fighting lawyers......

damn I was almost asleep when I wrote my response over the ridiculous comment about Obama hating Israel. What I was saying was, personally speaking, I don't give a frack about Israel. We should cut all funds to them and let them finance themselves.

Sturg, they folded like a deck of cards in 2000.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/my-electoral-college-predictio.html#comment-167004

Anon,

You need to pick another name so that we can tell who you are. Or just a letter. We all recognize Anon P. :-)

For meet the press, I would like to see Chuck Todd and Gwen Ifill either rotate or co host.

"What I was saying was, personally speaking, I don't give a frack about Israel. We should cut all funds to them and let them finance themselves. " ET@8:39

On any number of levels we're obligated to support Israel. That obligation was formalized in 1947 by the Truman administration.

And, in the last fifty years, Israel has been our military proxy in the Middle East. Their blood was shed instead of ours.

We owe them--big-time.

Sturgeone

I really like Tsubama

That wave is going roll right across the whole country.

Ha! I like the boldness of corey's math.

Jamie, I like Ifill for the position.

flatus......exactly......2000........I dont think the current crew believe in folding......I think they'll raise antes and carry the fight to the opponents......perhaps even to scorched earth.......I think the leaders have set fire to the boats

I heard JOhn Cleese say that and got very curious looks from people who didn't quite understand what was so funny.

"...I think the leaders have set fire to the boats "

Which probably means the crew is going over the side, swimming for shore while it is still on the horizon.

but the boats were beached.........no retreat........no quarter.............

lol

I will be watching from a hilltop well away from the coast!

A great article from Justin Webb of the BBC

The greatest political show on earth

The most fascinating, most gruelling and most expensive US presidential election campaign for generations is almost over. Whoever wins, says Justin Webb, the contest has left him wondering if any other political show could ever compete.
Three unforgettable moments...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/7701877.stm

( I stashed a rowboat a little ways up the coast......)

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/my-electoral-college-predictio.html#comment-167035

pffffft ... they have the money, the military and the ability to protect themselves. Unless we want to make them a colony, we should cut loose and let them pay for themselves... unless there was a serious attack or war. I don't say we have to cut ties; we already have a presence in the Middle East. And the USA can always be supportive. But, as they say in Republican camps, it's time to lift themselves up by the boot straps and take responsibility for themselves... a bit of Repub paraphrasing on personal responsibility.

I don't hate Israel, even though I don't think they were legitimately given the land they live on when considering what happened to the palestinian peoples who lived there, torn out of their homes and tossed out of the new country.

The Palestinians were not thrown off "their" land.
Speak to the Jordanians.

Some here have no knowledge of history and are simply mouthing the lies of terrorists.

ET, your 9:07

It looks as if you've really been influenced by the Palestinian talking-points. So be it.

For balance, if you haven't done so, why not do a reading of Uris' Exodus and Wouk's War and Remembrance and it's sequel (the title escapes me).

Yes those pesky palestinians... Terrorists one and all...

Craig -
Your Fla. theory is holding up well -

(in-person & absentee returned)

3,360,088

2008 2004
Party

Dem
45.6% 40.7%
Rep
38.2% 43.5%
No/Oth
16.2% 15.8%
Ballot

Absentee
41.5%
In-person
58.5%

44.0% (% of total 2004 vote)

7,640,319 (2004 total vote)

36.1% ( 2004 early vote %)

OBAMA =373
MCCAIN=165

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/my-electoral-college-predictio.html#comment-167047

ET

That isn't what happened. All were free to stay. The neighbors told the Palestinians to leave and get out of the way and when Israel was destroyed, they could go home again. It didn't work out that way, so the neighbors didn't really want the Palestinians either because absorbing them would mean the loss of a political weapon against Israel. So they ended up in a no mans land.

Many Palestinians live within Israel. They have complaints about representation in government and prejudice and whole lot of other items, but they are in their homes unlike those who departed.

McCain on TV now, " I never asked for pork barrel projects"

There 80,000 people living on the Navajo Reservation who don't have running water.

It would be nice if McCain knew what he was talking about when he talks about these things he wouldn't allow in the budget such as the "overhead projector".

Talk about stupid talking to stupid. Of course he might know wht that "projector" was and that makes it pandering which makes it manipulative liar agitating stupid.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/my-electoral-college-predictio.html#comment-167014

Sturge...that note from Cavett's blog you posted goes right to the heart of one of my pet peeves about McCain and Palin rhetoric: The whole idea that a "maverick" makes a good leader. By definition, a maverick is a lone colt that has ESCAPED FROM THE HERD! What does that have to do with being a leader??? And Palin's convention speech, she used the phrase "we'll be a TEAM of mavericks". Can there be such a thing? Isn't that like saying "a TEAM of loners."??

Pingy: Just saw your note from last night. Go Boone!

I have really grown to loath McCain this fall.

South Florida at Cincinnati now on ESPNU (DirecTv 614). Tied 7-7 in the first quarter. USF is an exciting team to watch. Go Bulls!

Curious ... has anyone here read "Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid" by Jimmy Carter? I know there was a lot of controversy....

I am also interested in the works of ilan pappe'

"Ilan Pappe, born in Haifa in 1954 is currently a Chair in the Department of History, the University of Exeter and a co-director of the Exeter Center for Ethno-Political Studies. He was the academic head and founder of the Institute for Peace studies in Givat Haviva Israel (1992-2000) and the Chair of the Emil Touma Institute for Palestinian Studies in Haifa (2000-2008).

Pappe is a both a professional historian and a human rights’ activist who believes that commitment and professionalism do not necessarily clash, but rather reinforce each other.

He wrote extensively on the 1948 Nakbah and is regarded as one of Israel ‘new historians’ who challenged the official Zionist version of events.

Pappe has also written on the Modern Middle East, multiculturalism and historiography."

“Occupiers cannot also be liberal”: An interview with Ilan Pappe

Apostolis Fotiadis, The Electronic Intifada, 21 June 2008

ATHENS (IPS) - Support for an academic boycott of Israeli universities exposed Ilan Pappe to death threats last year, forced him to resign as senior lecturer of political science at the University of Haifa, and leave the country.

His argument that the creation of Israel in 1948 was followed by a policy of cleansing Israeli territory of Palestinians, his support to Hamas resistance despite rejecting its political ideology, and the denouncement of Israeli academia for justifying the occupation of Palestine have made him an unwanted person in Israel. But still he remains a firm believer that the only way to improve this reality is by exposing its worst aspects.

Pappe now teaches history at the University of Exeter in Britain.

In an interview with Inter Press Service correspondent Apostolis Fotiadis, Pappe discusses the situation in Palestine today, and the Arab-Israeli conflict 60 years after it began. Continue →

http://ilanpappe.com/?cat=15

Being Jewish, Mr. Pappe is considered a traitor.

His latest book:

"The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine"

"Since the Holocaust, it has been almost impossible to hide large-scale crimes against humanity. In our communicative world few modern catastrophes are concealed from the public eye. And yet, Ilan Pappe unveils, one such crime has been erased from the global public memory: the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians in 1948. The pervasive denial of the Nakbah, as Palestinians call the catastrophe that befell them, is still a mystery today. But why is it denied, and by whom?"

Noam Chomsky on Israel, Lebanon and Palestine

By Kaveh Afrasiabi of Global Interfaith Peace

08/07/06 "Information Clearing House" -- --

NEWS YOU WON'T FIND ON CNN

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article14404.htm

McCaine just has to lose. Just the thought of "My Friends" for the next four years is an impeachable offense.

I don't think Presidents are allowed to torture citizens until they are forced into ear covered fetal balls.

Here's hoping his prostate swells to the size of a grapefruit.

Jamie, I confess that I am not an expert on the Middle East... And I do believe that there are issues of legitimacy on both sides of the conflicts... I do think our supporting one side has done little to strengthen our interests in the region.

But hey, I admit I have a lot to learn. In the meantime, a country that actually spies on the USA and is their biggest benefactor politically, financially and militarily doesn't sit well with me. The money given to Israel could finance many programs in the USA...

why are weather phenomena compared to sports equiptment, while health and body issues are compared to fruit?
--george carlin (i think)

hailstones as big as golfballs

prostate as big as a grapefruit......

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/12/28/noonan/

Peggy Noonan is a joke. Now she is trying to look like she always knew what she was doing. Ride the magic dolphins Peggums you stupid idiot.

Why do people continue to quote idiots because they are hoping on a bandwagon.

If you want better media, you have to get rid of the idiots first not pet them on the head when they happened to find an acorn.

What a stupid and vapid woman this is, but respected and admired by our media class because she fits right in with them -- endlessly impressed by her own sophistication, maturity and insight while drooling out platitudes one never hears except in seventh-grade cafeterias and on our political talk shows. As always, this isn't worth noting because the adolescent stupidity on display here is unique to Noonan, but precisely because it isn't. This is how our national elections are decided: by people like her, spewing things like this.
Glenn Greenwald

Popular vote:
Obama 49.5%, McCain: 47.5%, Others: 3%

Electoral college:
Obama: 300 (Kerry states, NM, IA, CO, FL)
McCain: 238

Fact Check Please,

Noonan is highly respected in most corners of this country. She is a pundit and writer. She's not a journalist. She can write and endorse who and how she wants.

I may not agree with Peggy Noonan at times, but she is nothing if truthful and courageously writing about what she believes.

In case you didn't know, she's been moving steadily toward Obama for about a year now, as with a lot of other republicans.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/

Today's 538

Obama 349.7 McCain 188.3

"I don't think Presidents are allowed to torture citizens until they are forced into ear covered fetal balls."

Can we put Bush in jail for THAT? (hoping...)

I am also of the opinion that Noonan and Brooks' truth telling about Obama, helped the Old Guard Republicans move toward Endorsing him rather than keeping silent.

No matter how the election ends next Tuesday, that fact is significant in American History.

Jamie, isn't that about what I predicted? Wow!!

Off to watch Battlestar Galactica. Good lord, let Tuesday come and pass quickly... I am wound up like a rubber band ready to bust :-)

Some of the early vote is off the charts -
Georgia
2004 - 20.2%
2008 - 53.3% (% of 2004 total vote)

North Carolina-
2004 - 30.8%
2008 - 66.2% (% of 2004 total vote)

Colorado -
2004 - 47.9%
2008 - 68.8% (% of 2004 total vote)

Tennessee
2004 - 47.3%
2008 - 63.1% (% of 2004 total vote)

http://elections.gmu.edu/early_vote_2008.html

Peggey Noonan is an idiot and has a history of writing nonsense.

People who think Reagan was a good president and voted for him --flock together and are also stupid

Nooners wrote terrible things about John Edwards and other Democrats. Her support for Obama is bogus and what she should be doing is apologizing for her support of George W Bush

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/my-electoral-college-predictio.html#comment-167069

Sheila,

Noonan was one of the correspondents mentioned by Brooks last night on Charlie Rose as being in that group like himself "arugula eating conservatives" :-)

The ones who have been turned off by the part of the party given over to the "Joe Six Packs" and the praise of ignorance.

He really went into the division talking about the Reagan and Buckley wings. He really sounded sad and saying it would be a decade before the party resolved the internal conflicts.

Sunday, February 24, 2008
Peggy Noonan Idiot
Shorter Peggy Noonan Barack Obama doesn't understand 'normal' people like we rich white Republicans do.
http://genderqueerview.blogspot.com/2008/02/peggy-noonan-idiot.html

-Bertrand Russell
Wednesday, May 03, 2006
Peggy Noonan: Armchair Juror
As far as political pundits go, there is no one more vacuous and insubstantial than Peggy Noonan. As I've noted before, her columns read like something she dictated into a tape recorder on her drive to work. Her understanding of the facts is superficial at best, and she invariably supports her strange knee-jerk opinions with arguments that any 12-year old could easily turn back around on her. In fact, Noonan has such a tendency to make these self-destructive arguments that I named an award after her.

Noonan's latest column is a real masterpiece. It's titled: "They Should Have Killed Him." The "him" she's referring to is Zacharias Moussaoui, who on Wednesday was sentenced to life in prison (and spared the death penalty) for his tangential role in the planning of the 9/11 attacks.
http://www.anonymousliberal.com/2006/05/peggy-noonan-armchair-juror.html

Peggy practically stalked Ronald Reagan wanting to jump on his bandwagon -- he finally gave it up and hired her. She would be saying exactly the opposite if McCain had a chance in hell, cause she's a campfollower before all.

Peggy Noonan writes in front of a mirror.

And because I am wound tight over the election, I want to escape in some comedy...

Check this out...

http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/paulblartmallcop/

Paul Blart: Mall Cop
In theaters: January 16, 2009

Can't they release it like NOW? xoxoxoxo to all

Wow fact Check,

At least present links to back up your insistance that all of us agree with you.

I like Peggy Noonan. She has never written anything even remotely like Bill Crystal.

I do, however, agree that Obama has kept his cool through the process. We'll see if he will deliver on his promises. And believe me, he's made a boatload of 'em.

Get your own links.
You are the one defending the piece of crap journalist

If you think she is so great prove it. What has she written besids a cya piece on Obama that is so smart.

Fact Check,

I see you did. Thanks!

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Irrefutable Proof That Peggy Noonan Has The Self-Awareness Of A Fruit Fly
By: Blue Texan Friday October 3, 2008 10:47 am

Nooner, who is still sore from the wingnut flogging she endured over telling the truth about Palin, writes today (emphasis mine):

I find obnoxious the political game in which if you expressed doubts about the vice presidential nominee, or criticized her, you were treated as if you were knocking the real America—small towns, sound values.

"It's time that normal Joe Six-Pack American is finally represented in the position of vice presidency," Mrs. Palin told talk-show host Hugh Hewitt...
http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/03/peggy-noonan-its-obnoxious-and-divisive-to-conflate-a-politician-with-the-real-america/

......and there is my time to exit. Factcheckplease is upset and foaming at the mouth.

Thanks for he post on Brooks Jamie. Patsi good to see you.

Anon, great posting! You brind good back ground to the subject!

Hi Tom!!

ET

One thing to consider when speaking of foreign aid is that it really is a tiny part of the US budget unless you are speaking about the costs of an active war as being "foreign aid".

The majority of the money does not go directly to the country concerned. It stays in the US creating jobs by buying equipment, food, medical supplies etc. that is then shipped to the country in question. Money that actually does go to countries is often bribes to dictators to stay on our side of an argument not funds that benefit the citizens.

It is that old saying of "Don't take down a fence until you know why it was built".

The trouble with the U.S. budget is that there is both a great deal of waste on projects that do little more that swell someone's bank account and projects that create jobs where needed but whose project is not needed at all. You would almost have to do a zero based penny by penny analysis of the thing and then throw up your hands in defeat because any correction is likely to be worse that what it replaces.

I love the scene in "Dave" where he brings in his accounting friend to work all night on the budget to find some necessary money. Nice fantasy and a whole lot of wishful thinking.

Like fact check, I try to recall just what some of these people were saying before the various parades started. So many act as though they were not part of the right wing cheering squad.

It's extremely unpopular to be a rabid Republican right now, and certainly will be for the next eight years. People like Sullivan and Noonan want to keep their invitations to the party, no matter which it is.

Palestinians

Palinstinians

Not upset or foaming too bad you pretend you want discussion but can't take it

Just the facts. Something some here would rather make up
then check.

Before I go.

one last comment.

Noonan and Brooks are just examples of how wonderful the US is. They have the freedom to change their minds and opinions.

Obama or some one like him can always feel free to convince someone to agree with their side.

We have the freedom from retribution o change our opinons and speak out.

We have a great country.

Noonan and Dowd are idiots and add nothing to political commentary in this country. They are snide, snarky and irrelevant and should be fired. Their commentary does not stand up.

I feel sorry for Bri Bri when he figures out the rest of the Obama supporters are closet Republicans who are looking for a place to hide.

Post partisan unity. What a joke.

"But: and this holds for Maureen Dowd too (and columnists across the board) -- because a lot of what Noonan says is occasionally drivel (although always engagingly written), that does not mean she cannot have some real insight too."

I could probably find some good points and insight in almost anyone's writings, and that includes some real baddies. But you will never convince me that either of those writers, or Sullivan, have not done damage by swimming with the pack. There are actually people out there who read them without any critical thinking skills.

Saturday, November 1

*
o 11:00 am
o Joe and Jill Biden hold an "Early Vote Rally for Change" in Evansville, Indiana
*
o 11:30 am
o Vice President Cheney delivers remarks at a "Wyoming Victory Rally" in Laramie, Wyoming
*
o Midday
o Barack Obama holds a "Change We Need" rally at Coronado High School in Henderson, Nevada
*
o 12:00 pm
o John McCain holds a "Road to Victory" rally in Springfield, Virginia
o Sarah Palin holds a "Road to Victory" rally in Polk City, Florida
*
o 3:00 pm
o John McCain holds a "Road to Victory" rally in Perkasie, Pennsylvania
o Sarah Palin holds a "Road to Victory" rally in Ocala, Florid
*
o 4:15 pm
o Joe and Jill Biden hold a "Change We Need" rally in Marion, Ohio
*
o 5:00 pm
o Barack and Michelle Obama hold a "Change We Need" rally at Union Avenue Historic District in Pueblo, Colorado
*
o 7:00 pm
o Sarah Palin holds a "Road to Victory" rally in Raleigh, North Carolina
*
o Evening
o Barack and Michelle Obama hold a "Change We Need" rally at Parkview High School in Springfield, Missouri
o Joe and Jill Biden hold a "Change We Need" rally at Bowling Green State University in Bowling Green, Ohio
*
o 9:30 pm
o Sarah Palin holds a "Road to Victory" rally in Glen Allen, Virginia
*
o 11:00 pm
o John McCain makes a cameo on NBC's "Saturday Night Live"

Watch McCain's condition tonight, if he's not doing "Keep alert pills" I'm Dick Cheney.

You're right, dog -- although I used to read Sullivan often. He was one of several wingers I followed through the post 9/11 nightmare. My blood ran cold the minute George Bush used the word "crusade" and the slogan "with us or against us."

Then I started hearing "9/11 changes everything." And I started reading as many people from all over the spectrum as possible. They helped push this country into madness, sheer madness.

(I no longer trust what Thom Friedman says, either.)

MY FRIENDS: THE MUSICAL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdBsv0uCT0c

(I no longer trust what Thom Friedman says, either.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedman_(unit)
The term is in reference to a May 16, 2006 article by Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting (FAIR) detailing journalist Thomas Friedman's repeated use[10] of "the next six months" as the period in which, according to Friedman, "we're going to find out...whether a decent outcome is possible" in the Iraq War. As documented by FAIR, Friedman had been making such six-month predictions for a period of two and a half years, on at least fourteen different occasions, starting with a column in the November 30, 2003 edition of The New York Times, in which he stated: "The next six months in Iraq—which will determine the prospects for democracy-building there—are the most important six months in U.S. foreign policy in a long, long time."[11]

We deserve a better class of political journalists and editorial writers.

fcp -

Those are called "Friedman units"

6 mos = 1 Friedman unit

"anyone who believes Bill Kristol's commentary in his various columns and appearances will NEVER get that time spent reading or viewing back. "

Absolutely in agreement on this one, dog.

The biggest problem with the op/ed writers who have no real core is that the cable news cycles pick up what they say and it often becomes a chant. As with the drumbeat to war.

And it was done in such a way that people were called anti-American freedon-haters if they dared disagree. (Much like now, only the term is racist old hag...)

shelia

Obama or some one like him can always feel free to convince someone to agree with their side.

We have the freedom from retribution o change our opinons and speak out.

We have a great country.
except if you critisize obama....as per joe the plunber

i hope McCain wins because it will be fun listening to pundits scramble to explain all their bias and predictions ....as they look to blame someone or something on obamas loss

since it seems I'm the only regular poster who hasn't picked "the numbers" yet, I've made a decision....

since all sports and games require some sort of support from fandom.....

I will become the fan in the grandstand...... wearing a big funky hat..... a large mint julep in hand and a large bag of popcorn by my side....... screaming "GO, GO, GO!"..... while the rest of you run around the track...... ;)

received an a robo call from a Bishop urging catholics NOT to vote for a pro-abortion candidate (no such candidate exists)...then in his scariest voice...Barack Hussein Obama is a such a pro-abortion candidate. Paid for by the Latinos for (4) reform.

http://128.121.140.50/

Our catholic church in Mesilla is celebrating this weekend its elevation to a Basilica and the Bishop's last name is similar to the one on the robo call...I knew the organization was not from this area...would have used Hispanics for Reform, rather than 'latino'. It is the kind of call a good catholic would listen to....first time I have ever received such a call during a prez election. Rudy will be in Mesilla tonight for McCain. Timing is every thing!

"I will become the fan in the grandstand...... wearing a big funky hat..... a large mint julep in hand and a large bag of popcorn by my side....... screaming "GO, GO, GO!"..... while the rest of you run around the track...... ;)"

ROFL! Can I sit with you, Renee?

RR

Keep this under your hat....

Obama 344
McCain 194

BlondeW -- My sister is a Catholic and says she's never once heard that members vote alike on anything....what's your take?

Some people have too much time on their hands but it is still a good thing!

http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm52/Nevilledog/slide_547_11729_large.jpg

of course you can sit with me Patsi....
I'll gladly share the popcorn....... but you have to get your own mint julep.....

Jamie..... I would like to be included on your list..... please put me down as
"The Fan"......

Patsi...just like the GE, the older faithful will vote as warned.

RR...I can also make many wine recommendations for popcorn...sort of like a 40 course dinner if you count each piece of popcorn.

Jamie, predictor page updated per your last re-listing (there are a couple more in comments to the page):

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/election-predictions.html

just curious, Craig, do you have a jetted, tub?

Woops, Laptop and finger violation on that last post!

lol

Bwino....

you can recommend any wine you like...... I'm one of those weirdos that says "screw the rules"..... I drink whatever wine strikes my fancy no matter what I'm eating....

and except for the very occasional pinot grigio, I order red.....
yes!..... even with chicken or fish.....

ET,

As a US citizen are you considered a bona fide residence of the Netherlands?

"the older faithful will vote as warned. "

Ha! Well, Blonde -- I guess that counts out my sister...she is one of the older but no-so-faithful...

"This list is managed by Jamie, our Wandering Minstel"

What is a minstel and should Jamie be insulted or happy?

RR...that is what I really like about you. Patsi...that is what I like about your sister!

Off to help hubby work on the greenhouse....

"This list is managed by Jamie, our Wandering Minstel" What is a minstel and should Jamie be insulted or happy? -- Posted by: Question

that is Jamie's official title (she chose it) on our Trail Mix Facebook Group:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=17347137146

Early vote tid bit -

Rasmussen internal nat. tracking poll -

Nearly a third of voters say they have already cast their ballot and Obama leads by nine among this group. Obama also has a similar lead among the small group who have not voted but still plan to vote early. The candidates are essentially even among those who plan to vote on Tuesday.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

Dog
I admit to not liking Sullivan! I feel he jumped from the Bush ship for personal reasons,GAY MARRIAGE....I can't forget what a cheerleader he was for the anti-gay Republicans!Yes I'm sure he finds Bush repugnant now.It serves him doesn't it?Personal reasons affect my opinion as well.Appreciate your links to Sullivan though,i still read them.I take nothing off the table,it keeps me well rounded in my opinion's.Thanks.

i do have a jetted tub, blone wino -- that's how i once punctured an ear drum, got too close to one of the jets

that's a lesson for jacuzzi lovers -- keep your head above water when the jets are on!

Obama - 374
McCain - 164
Nationally - Obama +6

" Wandering Minstrel"

Ok. Thanks Typo! On the predictions page, minstrel is misspelled.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/my-electoral-college-predictio.html#comment-167139

a brave one there, doug, but you might be right -- i just talked to a most authoritative source who said if Obama gets to 318, the damn breaks and he goes to 374 or higher

LL - S

So it seems you are in fireworks range of Norton Baker field? If so we are very close as I walk to the game...

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/my-electoral-college-predictio.html#comment-167057

thanks for the typo check, Question -- fixed:

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/election-predictions.html

off to get a haircut, keep those predictions coming

So Craig -- Did you know that Da Ping and Da LardassLiberal live near each other .... Or am i missing something

Hey Ping
I'm over here in New Smyrna Beach..Close by too...

Is it a blip or a turn?

Early voting in Florida is shifting Republican

Craig- I am happy to see you have found peace in the kool-aide of Obama, As I asked yesterday – is the moving feeling based on a Political Science thought process or is it you buy into the reforming the fundamentals of America?

If so what about your life do you want to see changed? Not about others but yours?

I've made my prediction..... and wanna be part of the list too.....

whatsamatter..... you have something against those of us that think outside of that box..... :0)

little boxes..... little boxes.... all made out of ticky tacky and they all look just the same.....

Question of the day returned?
Does the Hair Cut include a little extra something in the wash?

tobyb39
NSB !!!
Growing up here - we called it Orlando Beach.. And my Stetson Days we always found a way to the beach ... probably why I did not finish all 4 years there...

Ping
Orlando Beach it is,especially on weekends! HA HA Love it here...Can be to OBT in 45 to 50 min in the evening traffic,yet live the small town life...Nice

Ping,

Early voting in Florida is shifting Republican

It is the undecided, finally coming around.

I never understood how anyone could take this guy seriously,apparently the Democrats do.

http://tinyurl.com/mean-in-his-chaussures

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/my-electoral-college-predictio.html#comment-167125

Renee, You are a wine drinker after my own heart. Though I did get some strange looks when I did pour champagne to add that little touch of insouciance to my popcorn snack

Craig, just read this on aol news -- I have no idea whether it is valid but figured since you'd just mentioned Facebook...

Facebook Virus

We know you may love those funny videos your friends send to you on Facebook, but you may have to forgo clicking on any links from friends in the near future. That's because a Trojan horse that purports to be a legitimate e-mail from a Facebook friend actually contains W32.Koobface worm, which looks for a cookie on your computer that enables it to take over your Facebook account and send itself to all your friends! Here's what to watch out for: E-mails that have flattering subject lines about who a hot crush someone has on you, or how great you look in some video.

The e-mail itself will have a link to a YouTube like link that leads you to a fake YouTube page. On that page, you're asked to download a video player upgrade. Whatever you do, don't download and install that upgrade, or your machine will be infected. But before you even get to that point, you might just double-check with your friends who like to send videos to make sure what they've sent is legit. It may take the fun out of video sharing, but better safe than sorry!

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/my-electoral-college-predictio.html#comment-167138

And don't get a thigh near the out take slot .... very very large bruise.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/my-electoral-college-predictio.html#comment-167129

It was minstrel but then someone heard me sing and I got demoted.

Senator Obama will reach 320; Ralph Nader will pull a higher-than-expected number of votes away from Senator McCain.

Brain - the local news reports that in one Metro Orlando County - Seminole - that Republicans have out voted Dems the last day, and that this trend is happening around the state.

I have not seen any validation beyond the news reports and we all know the value of the news these days

I just got back from early voting at the Orange County main elections headquarters, and I sure didn't see much evidence of a Republican surge. Everyone was excited and talking about making history. Don't think they were speaking of McCain or Palin.

Line was extremely long, but moved quickly. I only had to wait 45 minutes.

Jamie...I sent to your e-mail a photo of my ballot at the Moment Of Truth!

Notice To All Obama Supporters: Please submit your home addresses, so I can mail you all a Box of PUFFS, on Wed. AS you all are in for a rude awakening. McCain|Palin are going to be the winners, people are starting to take a second look at OBama THE SHARE THE WEALTH MAN, and they don't like what they are seeing.

Gallup Daily: Obama 52%, McCain 42% Among Likely Voters

Gallup's 2 sets of polls have merged, that is the old model & the new model are now showing the same numbers. Josh at TMP thinks this is due to Gallup polling people who have already voted. As they feed into the survey the numbers begin to match. The Rasmussen poll I linked earlier bares this out .

http://www.gallup.com/poll/111661/Gallup-Daily-Obama-52-McCain-42-Among-Likely-Voters.aspx

Rasmussen internal nat. tracking poll -

Nearly a third of voters say they have already cast their ballot and Obama leads by nine among this group. Obama also has a similar lead among the small group who have not voted but still plan to vote early. The candidates are essentially even among those who plan to vote on Tuesday.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

Lampe -

I was thinking you guys should post addresses as well . We'll be sending turkey basters, because McCain's goose is cooked.

Jamie, here are some from comments to the predictions page if u want to add:

Monotreme Obama 367 McCain 171 Obama +6
Frelman Obama 338 McCain 200 Obama + 5
Martin Obama 407 McCain 131 Obama + 7.2

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/my-electoral-college-predictio.html#comment-167162

yes, Patsi, about Facebook -- that's why i've suggested many times DO NOT use the third-party applications and games, reject invites to add them -- they are dangerous, otherwise it's a safe site to use

right...and Alaskans mailed back the $1200 that Palin sent them when she shared the wealth, is that it? Of course , she let some valuable issues go unfunded in Alaska, some dealing with child care, so she could invoke the socialist giveaway. Repuggs wave signs "SPREAD DREAMS NOT WEALTH"...I saw them myself. But Palin dispersed cold cash, now didn't she.
Keep your Puffs and tune into reality...McCain is about to be consigned to the dustbin of history.
Of course I realize you are probably making over $300,000 a year, or you could not possibly be for McCain, right? McCain is just more of the same, and we can't stand that.
Obama Biden 2008.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/my-electoral-college-predictio.html#comment-167150

Ping -- kool-aide too sweet for me, i'm just happy Democrats made peace with Florida, that's all. otherwise, my analysis is purely about the politics of this race. i'm not big on change or status-quo. i prefer something in between. Three cheers for variation!

I still get confused about Facebook...if I find a good story online and share it to Facebook, it goes to my profile page where it takes effort for others to get to it.

Bitter? Table for One?

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/my-electoral-college-predictio.html#comment-167160

And like wives. He has been married three times, though he hasn't had any children. He met his current girlfriend, a West Palm Beach events planner, last year. When I ask about the ups and downs in his personal relationships he hesitates again. 'I would find myself very difficult to live with because I am totally self-contained and resent having to do things I don't want to do. Now I can choose. When I'm put in a position where I don't want to be there, I make sure everyone else is miserable.'

Rush Limbaugh
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/31/limbaugh-reveals-personal_n_139872.html

Nice, Limbaugh is turning into Mr. Burns.

Hey ET,

Did you catch this? ;-)

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/my-electoral-college-predictio.html#comment-166979

Comic Relief -

http://www.thesimpsons.com/characters/home.htm

for those interested in polling insidery stuff, here is an excellent piece by Washington Post polling director Jon Cohen:

"Our Polls Are on the Mark. I Think."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/11/01/ST2008110101102.html

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/my-electoral-college-predictio.html#comment-167182

Okay I have them. Just one question. Is Montreme an anteater or platypus?

Just curious Craig...

1) Exactly why was your head under water in your Jacuzzi? Do we really want to know???

2) Did you happen to create the video Zoey requested last night?

ha, jamie, perhaps a Montmarte extremist

Oh I think McCain is now heading toward victory. Dick Cheney is rousing up the troops in Wyoming.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/my-electoral-college-predictio.html#comment-167193

spike --

1) what i can i say, i like to sit in the tub underwater. nothing more exotic than that

2) no recent video but who can forget the hot tub edition of video trail mix:

http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1431564060/bctid1456303206

McCain's #2 pick for VP -

http://www.thesimpsonsshop.com/simpsons/popup.php?alt_view=/img/product/catl/00060506-626724.jpg

When is the earliest the elections could be called? I saw someone mention 11pm.But do they not wait until all polls (HI) close?

Rez yes! I miss the college. I was one of those students, staff members, who actually respected highly the police force at the college as well. I always thought Larry took a lot of shit for doing a job that had to be done. I've been away for a decade, but I can tell you TESC is still in my heart.

Oh yeah, I will be on KAOS Radio wednesday morning around 8 am I guess to discuss an expat's viewpoint on the American elections... I hope to share some of the reactions I have experienced from Europeans regarding American politics and the Presidency.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/my-electoral-college-predictio.html#comment-167197

Hell, he could have just chosen Joe the Plumber...

As I recall in 1992 and 96 the election was called around 8 pm Pacific Standard Time.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/my-electoral-college-predictio.html#comment-167194

Craig

As long as he stays on the LEFT bank, not too many people will yell at him here.

not at all suggesting you try to include them here, Jamie, but there a few more predictions in comments on my huffpo page:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/craig-crawford/my-electoral-college-pred_b_139937.html

Craig, I remember that video...It comforts me to see that I'm not the only person who wears their glasses in the pool...

Craig -- "no recent video..."

Zoey will be SO disappointed...

ET,

As a US citizen are you considered a bona fide residence of the Netherlands?

Craig, I didn't even know that you had a Huffington Report page! Cool...

Anselm I do not understand your question or what the relevance is of you asking...

Also I don't mean to sound snarky; I just would like to know why you are asking?

Personally I want Corey's Electoral prediction to be true... LOL... Leave it to Corey to provide the best in comic relief...

Okay, Here is the info on how the networks will be calling the race

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14660.html

It all adds up to they will call a state Once the polls in that state is closed. If it becomes obvious that Obama (or in your dreams McCain) has hit 270 then they have to decide whether to old off official announcement until after polls have closed in California ... sort of a definite maybe. You may want to keep a calculator handy to do your own addition.

ET,

Because should Obama be elected I want to make sure I am current with up to date information for my extended travel/stay outside the US.

O = 367 (wins FL, ND and MO)
McSame = 171 (we'll give him IN)

I saw up above talk of movement in Florida. I received the below email this afternoon forwarded from that state. I would guess Gordo's crusade is going viral amongst the elderly down there.

I received the email with the full addresses and names intact. And, I know the correspondents to be live, normally sentient, human beings. In any case here's the correspondence:

From: ---------@aol.com
To: -------@tampabay.rr.com
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 9:47 PM
Subject: Sen. Obama's Birth Certificate

Hi Jean,

I wrote to the Attorney General. Here is what
I sent yesterday. Wonder if I'll get an answer.

I'll let you know.

Cheers - - - Charlie

Charles F. S-----
Oceanside, Calif.

If it weren't for the United States military,
there'd be NO United States of America.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The Honorable Michael B. Mukasey
Attorney General of the United States
Washington, DC 20530-0001

Dear Mr. Attorney General,

This is an Official Request for an Investigation to confirm, through an official vetting process, that Barack H. Obama, the Democrat Party Candidate, meets the stated requirements found in the United States Constitution to serve as President of the United States of America.

Did you know that no Election Officials, nor anyone else in some States, nor as far as I can determine, not in the United States Government, requires validation of a Presidential Candidate's qualifications? No one verifies that Presidential Candidates meet Constitutional requirements? There is No official agency, or any independent official element, no watch dog organization charged with vetting Presidential Candidates and reporting their findings to the American people?

Apparently all that's required to put a name on a ballot to run for President of the United States is some Political Party official to simply notify State Elections officials? Most States simply take the word of the political machine, or Political Party, stating that Barack Obama is qualified. No Birth Certificate is required. Has anyone seen Obama's official Birth Certificate? Even lawsuits can't dislodge a valid, Certified Copy. Why not? Don't you, Sir, believe it reasonable a Presidential Candidate should confirm his or her qualifications? What is Sen. Barack H. Obama hiding?

Mr. Attorney General, we are without checks and balances in America if a political party could nominate Mickey Mouse and it would appear on the ballot based on info below from Florida.

From Florida:
Thank you for inquiring about the determination of a candidate’s eligibility to run for President of United States. The Florida Department of State does not have investigative or enforcement authority to ensure that major parties’ Presidential candidates are properly qualified to be President of the United States. The U.S. Constitution establishes the qualifying requirements for President. Under Florida law, the way in which a major party’s candidate is placed on the ballot is that the state executive committee of each political party submits its slate of presidential electors for its candidate before September 1st of each presidential election year; then, by law, the names of candidates are printed on the ballot. Those candidates are not required to provide any documents to the State that they meet the qualifications for office.
The Florida Secretary of State performs only a ministerial function. So, the Secretary has no authority or responsibility to look beyond the filing documents to determine if a candidate is eligible. If a candidate (or the party in the case of a major political party nominating someone as a Presidential candidate) files the necessary paperwork, which papers are complete on their face, the Secretary must qualify the candidate.

Any challenge to the qualifications of a U.S. Presidential candidate should be made in a court of competent jurisdiction (such as what has occurred in federal court in Pennsylvania regarding Senator Obama). The Department of Justice in Washington, D.C., may also be a resource for information or inquiry on this matter. Contact information for the Department of Justice is: AskDOJ@usdoj.gov.; phone: 202-514-2000; and U.S. Department of Justice, 950 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW. Washington, DC 20530-0001.

Bureau of Election Records

Kristi Reid Bronson, Chief

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Thank you, Sir, for taking time to read my concerns.

I anxiously await your response.
Respectfully,

Charlie

Charles F. S------
Col., USAF (ret.)
Oceanside, Calif.

ET

And too, you are the only American citizen I know who lives abroad. Just think we might become neighbors!

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/my-electoral-college-predictio.html#comment-167214

Anselm, when I moved to the Netherlands in 1998, it was far easier to do then than now. Post 9/11 there is far more scrutiny that than in the past, and it costs a lot more to be a resident. Since I was in a relationship with a Dutch citizen, it went pretty easy for me. These days you would have to study the language in advance of moving and pay a rather high fee to seek residency (and it's not even all that easy anymore to have "family reunification" in Europe as there is a "cultural battle" going on between Europeans and "allochtonen" (which usually means "Moroccans", "Turks", "Arabs" etc. ) wherein the alloctonen try to have their families and extended families relocated to Europe.

If you want more information on the changes in the Dutch law, you might find http://www.expatica.com useful or the Dutch Embassy in Washington DC. I do know that if you have a legitimate reason to move, a job as an ex-pat, or a self-employed business person, there are ways for you to move using that route. None of these suggestions are easy anymore.

And yes, I am a legal resident in Europe, though I currently only hold American citizenship.

Anselm, in spite of our ideological differences, I would love to meet you someday! Also Ping and other Crawford trailblazers !!!

Craig,

Just notice today's topic, and you then predict some fallacy of Obama winning, but what really cracked me up is where you said, "But don't take my word for it . . .Check out what Trail Mixers say". Craig 99.167% of them are all Democrats, what else would they say other than Obama is winning. LOL

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/my-electoral-college-predictio.html#comment-167221

did we get anywhere with that Spring in DC idea for a roundup? i'd be happy to host a party.

btw, here's some variously priced lodging near me:

http://carlylesuites-px.trvlclick.com/index.cfm

http://www.swannhouse.com/

http://www.thechurchillhotel.com/

http://washingtondchotels.jurysdoyle.com/

jamie, i don't get this one?

Rebel Ren The Fan

anselm ''they do seem to be slightly biased towards the democratic ticket here

I'm listening to the Palin Speech

Europe will be surprised to know that their citizens can't succeed because they have Socialist tendencies. The Democrat party is extreme. Barney Frank is evil. You can compress one of her speeches into

lie /too/ exageration /also/ inaccuracy/ too again/ simplicitic aphorism / also / another lie / ronald reagan / too / another lie also

This ignorant, jingoistic, uneducated twit needs to be sent back to the great white north as soon as humanly possible.

predictions page updated:

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/election-predictions.html

ET,

Thank you very much. Not sure if I'll be working, or how long I can stay in any country if I decide not to work. Also not sure how as an a US citizen I could find work. I guess I could always work for a US company and that way I might not have to satisfy and foreign government regulations. Oh, is the Netherlands on the EURO, or have they retained the guilder? This is my back-up plan for the next 4 years should Obama be elected, and too the Netherlands seems like a nice jumping off point.

"You may want to keep a calculator handy to do your own addition."

Jamie,

Thx, I just ran across a similar statement regarding CNN 's projection policy.

And looking at the State closing times ; If Obama wins FL, IN,OH & NC, plus the others he's expected to win based upon current favorable polling, then they should be able to call it by 9 EST*

* This factors in the solids plus PA, CO & NM

"anselm ''they do seem to be slightly biased towards the democratic ticket here"

You think? Only slightly?

The Euro Anselm... Most national currencies have been replaced with the Euro... A coupleof the exceptions are Sweden and Denmark (though Norway does have the Euro) and many of the new EU countries are not yet integrated into the EURO.

Oh and while NL is a nice place, I actually live in Flemish Belgium now...

I actually live in Flemish Belgium

Ahhh, I made a brief visit there in 2002, while I was staying in Paris at the time. Great fun it was.

If Obama wins FL, IN,OH & NC, plus the others he's expected to win based upon current favorable polling, then they should be able to call it by 9 EST*

And only if he could pull off that walk on water stunt, this election would be over by Monday night.

Obama - 370
McCain - 168

Popular Vote - Obama +7

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/my-electoral-college-predictio.html#comment-167224

Craig

Rene is sitting in the stands with pom poms, rubber fingers, wine, and snacks watching everyone else run around the track.

Re DC get together. It was left semi up in the air depending on your possible book/tour schedule.

I was taking requests for locations and so far only Asilomar and DC have been suggested. If we can get a date and an approximate number of attendees, I can go to work on it.

From past experience I know that some of the chains right on the Metro out near the Pentagon or Crystal City used to have pretty good group rates. Maybe one of the east coasters could look into that possibility.

Obama 286
McCain 252
Obama wins overall popular vote by 4%

Obama--302 O plus 5%

McCain--236

Ask ET Anselm, I hear the weather nice over there. Bon voyage.

Has anyone ever counted the actual lies McCain tells in his stump speech?

i.e. "Joe the Plumber never asked Obama to come to his house".

I'm an optimist, and here is my prediction:

396 for Obama
142 for McCain

Popular Vote: Obama +9%

Surprises:
Obama takes Georgia, North Dakota, Montana, and Indiana.

McCain barely squeaks AZ, and Texas is much closer than polled.

Worst Case:

Obama 286
McCain 252

Renee-----if it looks like im way off---i will be the first to drop off,,,move over ill foin you---got some left over chunky bars,,,what a chunk of chocolate

foin=join

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/my-electoral-college-predictio.html#comment-167242

Newellam

Your guess is exactly the same as McFlipFlop. You will need to change your percentage on the Popular vote for a tie breaker

My wife, a big Obama fan just told me that im insane---i told her

I'm not suffering from Insanity... I'm actually enjoying it,,,ha i was waiting for her smart crack!

dangit, Studs Terkel died

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=96432130

http://www.studsterkel.org/

Obama 330, McCain 208

Jamie,

I AM McFlipFlop.

Came over here cause Craig said to.

:-)

I have got

Obama 338
McCain 200

Popular Vote +12

Obama 364 McCain 174 Obama +8

Lardo wanted everyone to see his ballot at the moment of truth. You can see it here

http://jdurward.blogspot.com

Thanks NewEllam

I'm caught up now through Cherryice. I hope all you new folks don't just drop in and run. We have a pretty nice place here.

So much for the " you are either for us or against us" GOP
Agreeing to disagree! Yeah right!

http://usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-10-30-gun-ceo-ousted_n.htm?imw=Y

Craig,

We commented on Terkel yesterday. I got hooked on his writing with the book "working". It was a bad week for authors. We lost Tony Hillerman as well, so no more great Navajo mysteries.

Thanks for posting Jamie!

And it should be noted that's a FLORIDA ballot.

Craig, you are going to be very suprised. Obama is gonna win the South. Obama gets 380 EV's.......I get bragging rights :-)

Rezdog

It's amazing how many of the freedom loving patriots only believe in freedom for people who agree with them.

"And it should be noted that's a FLORIDA ballot." lard@4:43

Lard, you didn't get the word that they're enforcing the 'Number 2 Pencil' rule this year??

Obama 338
McCain 200

Obama popular vote +11%

Jamie....
thanks for adding me to the list..... and that's a mint julep I'll have in my hands while playing cheerleader...... the wine is for afterwards.....

Solar.... hell yes come join me and Patsi...... chocolate is ok.... but I prefer caramel or toffee..... the mini heath bars are mine!

just got back from the big city of Nashua, NH...... needed to go to Lowe's for some Thompson's Wood Protector..... we were greeted by numerous lighted Christmas trees as we walked into the place...... god grief.... it was Halloween only yesterday....

hey all you newbies...... welcome to the blog... and please stick around.....

Flatus...I leave nothing to chance in a Florida voting booth. I not only used the pen that was in the booth, but I walked over to the elections official first to make sure it was indeed the right instrument.

"...but I walked over to the elections official first to make sure it was indeed the right instrument." Lard, there's only one thing left for me to say, "Well done!".

The atmosphere was really electric in that voting place. People are so excited about this election.

This is for all people, who have worked long and hard for their money. If Obama wins on Tues, you better go to your banks, call your brokers, and cash out all of your funds. Because Jan 09, this man is going to tax you right into the poor house. I have 10 more years, before I can retire, and I have worked long and hard, to save what money I have. I will be damned if I am going to give it to people, who seem to have no desire to work for a living. Obama, spent over 3 million dollars the other night, to say nothing more, than what he has been saying for 21 months. If he is so concerned about people in the so called middle class, Why didn't he just take that money, and help people get jobs, or save their homes? Then he would have been a man of his word. No he just wants everybody else to spread the wealth around. Who's Obamna, really taxing? White People, and maybe some Blacks, like myself, who have managed to save for my old age. Thanks but No Thanks.

yeah i just learned about terkel's death. such a bummer.

Obama - 383
Mc Cain - 155

Popular Vote - Obama +11

"If Obama wins on Tues, you better go to your banks, call your brokers, and cash out all of your funds"
Lampe | November 1, 2008 5:03 PM

Murdoch says Obama win could worsen financial crisis

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=081101041202.azy6f08j&show_article=1

and the winner for the best replacement for "landslide" is:
sturge with the most votes (3) wins with "tsubama"!!!

jamie, mtp gwen ifill yes

Lampe...didn't you mean to say that Obama wants to "quote, spread the wealth around"

That's the official talking point. And you have to make little air quotes with your fingers when you say it.

Politics of celebrity takes over

THIS has been the worst US presidential campaign I've ever seen. Vacuous, fatuous, misleading, dishonest, trivial, at times unhinged in its disconnect from reality.
The politics of the world's greatest democracy has taken something weird in its Kool-Aid.

How can I say this when both candidates are so attractive and so articulate?

This is American politics as American Idol. And that's a giant step backwards."

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24582660-7583,00.html

Ensign says Palin not up to being president

Nevada Sen. John Ensign, who heads the NRSC, said in a Las Vegas interview late this week that Joe Biden is more qualifed than Sarah Palin and that an argument can be made that she has hurt the ticket.

Ensign's analysis is perhaps the most extended critique of the Palin pick and her subsequent rollout from any prominent Republican.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/1108/Ensign_says_Palin_not_up_to_being_president.html

Honeygrin

You are tied with another projection. I will need a popular vote percentage to act as a tie breaker in case your guess wins.

Thank you

Lampe

All of that money that is spent by the candidates isn't just burned for smoke signals.

Halls and stadiums are rented
products are manufactured and sold
entertainment is hired
commercials are booked in all media
cleaning crews are hired
food and beverages are supplied
Staff is hired all over the nation many of them at the level of secretaries and clerks

Election years are often the make or break profit margins for many many businesses and they will work for anyone Republican or Democrat.

For all the talk of the masses of money raised, when all is said and done they spend less than $2.00 per voter.

why should obama need to go to colorado today?

Heavy mention on the Veterans. Probably a push back against all the fight, fight, fight from the McCain speech.

Lampe:

If Obama started buying people's mortgages with his campaign dollars - he would be brought up on charges for buying votes.

Of course he would also be spreading wealth around - which you seem to take issue with in the rest of your post.

And of course Republicans are going to say that Obama will make the financial crisis even worse. But we had higher tax rates during the Clinton years along with a budget surplus and increases in jobs.

Jamie....

I read this past week in the Christian Science Monitor that Americans will actually spend more on Halloween than both candidates combined will on their campaigns.....

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/my-electoral-college-predictio.html#comment-167276

Craig, maybe it's the only place he could find with a hill to climb.

A Sermon on the Mount does require a hill

And The Hills are alive with the Sound of Music

Jamie...here's another little something from the Sound of Music.

"Ballots with bubbles and ink pens to fill them
Mavericks with troubles and VPs that kill them
Dumb as the plumbers they always must bring
These are a few of my favorite things."

When the dog bites
When the bee stings
When I'm feeling sad
I simply remember to vote for Obama
And then I don't feeeeel so bad

Keithie with comments and matthews with tirades
Fox News with rumors and those who drink Koolaid
Pundits and pollsters and graphs that they bring
These are a few of my favorite things

OK Craig and Jamie here goes.

Obama 395

McBush 143

That at least equals the total.

tt

The Hockey Mom bites
Then Karl Rove stings
And I'm feeling sad
When I remember to vote for Obama
And then I don't feeeel so bad

Rethugs are making themselves out to be asses
Palin hates any truth, gays, and progressives
Mccain is so senile he can't find the stage
Sticking his tongue out and always in rage

When we all unite
Against the lying right
When we agree on what's bad
I simply remember my favorite things
And then I don't feel so bad

I like Corey's the BEST.

: - )

tt

Don't forget to Fall Back tonight.

It's a real bummer if you ask me.

It's dark SO early!

tt

corey has a way with numbers........

but he might not get away with those........

roses are red
violets are blue
I'm going to vote
for obama next tue.

Why vote sturg... It is already over

Just like the Gators CRUSHING the Dogs....

Now now Ping. Someone might think that was voter supression. The next thing we know you might tell him to vote on Wednesday because of the crowds. :-)

Obama, is going to be the worst thing that has ever happened to this Great Country. White, People what he is going to do is take your hard earned money, and give it to Black Folks, as a way to make up for slavery. I am a Black Women, and can see this, are you so stupid, as to think this is anything but this. When any one tells you, that you have to take money, that you have worked long and hard for, and give it away to someone else, something is very very wrong. Obama, Pelosi, and Reid, are going to run us right into the ground, and all these other countries, that hate us, are going to stand by and watch them destroy us, thenthey are going to come in and finish what Obama, is set on destroying. Wake-Up America, before it is to late.

Campaigns bought with money stashes
Promises that will soon burn into ashes.
People like puppets pulled by their strings
These are a few of my favorite things.

Lampe

I'm not a White American. I'm an American. Every single citizen in this country is a fellow American.
If he is elected, Barack Obama will be the President of all Americans. He wasn't my first choice, but he will be MY President.

I'm sorry that your heart is so filled with hatred that you can't be glad that this man has come so far.

"I'm sorry that your heart is so filled with hatred"

Hatred, or fear?

Fear breeds hatred

It sounds as if she passed fear a long time ago.

" why should obama need to go to colorado today? "

Not the state CC, but where in the state .... Pueblo, he knows the Hispanics are breaking 7 to 3 his favor. Down the Arkansas river from Pueblo, and in the city itself, Large Hispanic population.

Frank Newport on Hardball confirmed Josh's theory tonight about the early vote. 27 % of the Gallup poll now has people in it who have already voted. Newport shot down the undecided theory that McCain people are pushing. Newport thinks they will split . Not break McCain.

Drudge has egg all over his keyboard tonight ..... The cherry picking of that Zogby poll this morning really blew up.

CBS tonight -
Obama by 13 points
Among early voters - Obama has built up a lead of 57%-38%.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/11/poll_obama_has_banked_big_lead.php

Gallup - Obama 52%, McCain 42%, with a ±2% margin of error

ABC - Obama 53%, McCain 44%, with a ±2.5% margin of error

McCain is a "meat popsicle".

Lampe....

"I love your gown, but your purse is on fire......"

--Tallulah Bankhead, to a an acolyte with the incense passing her pew at St. Peters.

predictions page updated with Jamie's 6:45p list:

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/election-predictions.html

I am very very happy, that Obama, has made it this far. This has nothing to do with me being proud. this has to do with Obama, not being ready, and not knowing what he is doing. I am also an American, Hrc, was my first pick, but The DNC, took it upon themselves to tell me who I should vote for. My heart, is not filled with hatred. My mind is filled with worry. Biden made remarks about Obama, "NOT BEING READY.", now he is telling us "OBAMA WILL BE TESTED IN A CRISIS." and he also said "WE WON'T AGREE WITH OBAMA'S DECISION." Now I don't know if that doesn't worry you, but it worries the HELL out of me. I have been calles all kinds of racist names, by blacks, because Obama, is not my choice,but what really hurts the most is that I'm Black, but it doesn't matter to them, what matters is that he is Black, and according to them I owe him my vote. So If I sound like I'm angry then yes I am.

Lampe

I adore Biden but he has a severe case of Senate speak. You get to guess what he really, really meant to say by the context of where and when he said it.

Virtually every single President who has entered office has been tested in some way by some unexpected crisis. If and when that happens to Obama and in all likelihood it will, he will have a magnificent group of people around him. He has proven repeatedly that he knows how to listen and take counsel from others.

I have enormous respect for Hillary and Bill Clinton. If they say this man will have what it takes to be a good president, then I believe them. Biden is one of the best foreign policy people in government as is Bill Clinton. Hillary Clinton is one of the best on domestic matters.

If this country has survived (barely) eight years of George Bush and his crowds of cronies and crooks, a President Obama will be a major improvement. I'm not willing to put the U.S. in the hands of a hot tempered, jingoistic war hawk like Cheney and a Veep with no understanding of the world or the Federal government.

He may not be perfect, but Barack Obama is the best we have and let us hope he becomes the best possible President when it is needed because it will be needed.

All the promises are the ones from long long ago
the same ones now made from Obama and chicago

Chicago is the city that swings
These are a few of my favorite things

I'm a white, liberal, rather affluent (albeit cash poor) South Carolinian.........I have guns.........I drink beer, and I have a pick-up truck with a gun rack which holds a 4-foot level.........and I say that this idea of voting for John McCain is a freakin' maniac's nightmare.......How dare anyone suggest I vote for that vicious harlequin--- the latest in a long string of republican shills and tools with which the they browbeat tand smack down the great american worker and craftsman? I am appalled.

There's a scary freudian slip for you. I typed Cheney instead of McCain. Guess that says who I think is really pulling the strings on the puppet.

Please, by-all-means go and have another beer, it sure sounds like you haven't yet had enough.

To all the Republicans -
BUSH is the worst thing to happen to the country , and you guys are the ones who stuck us with him. He's your guy, for years I read your predictions about how things would unfold, well guess what you guys blew it. That's why your about to lose seats down into the state houses.

Tip Toe post your list of Republicans. These people have no memory, and certainly no foresight.

I still think Lampe is GORDO's angry black female persona.

Fred Barnes one of Palin's puppet masters -

Early voting forced a crabby Fred Barnes to come into contact with "all these poor old people" who were trying to cast their ballots in a crowded building with limited parking in that third world outpost known as Alexandria, Va. How dare they:

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/241850.php

"I typed Cheney instead of McCain. Guess that says who I think is really pulling the strings on the puppet."

I think you're right. It took both of them to take screw things up so badly.

Obama 341
Mccain 197
Obama +7

Who, or what in the Hell is aGORDO?

Fred Barnes loves Joe the Plumber, just long as he doesn't have to vote with him.

Lampe, Gordo is nothing more or nothing less than what you see. He's on a mission and that's his story and he's sticking to it. Harmless.

Gordo is TM's ever ready bunny---he keeps on going, and going, and, gone

"Please, by-all-means go and have another beer, it sure sounds like you haven't yet had enough."

And Lampe, Sturge is a nice guy too.
He's just like you. Feels strongly about what he believes.

Well, I guess I'm just going to give you all further reason to dislike me, but I don't see Lampe's voice as being filled with hatred. I think she is angry, just as most of us here are angry at Bush and all his group have done to us. I haven't noticed her calling herself a black American - she has described herself as black and a woman. I really don't think she's afraid - what is she afraid of? She admits to being worried, and we will be worried, too, if McCain wins.

At first Lampe didn't make her arguments re the economics of it all, and I was surprised when she added that to her comments, but I wasn't irritated. She's by no means the only person here to say those same things.

I don't agree with her but I am very interested in what she is saying. I've seen people interviewed who have been threatened for being black and not voting for Obama. What a nice situation - now people think they can tell by looking whom you'll vote for. That's how some used to tell who was a slave. Two hundred years ago, if your skin was black that meant you were a slave. Today if your skin is black you're probably going to vote for Obama, and certainly should.

Reverend Wright's vitriol upset me because I had never heard of black liberation theology. Now there is hatred. I wondered at the time if all blacks felt that way and it bothered me to think they might. I'm relieved to hear from yet another one black citizen who hasn't felt obligated to vote for someone she doesn't like.

As I said, I don't agree with her at all, but I think she is strong and sincere and speaks from a position which not one of us can claim.

I also said I realize that somehow I manage to piss off most of you, and this will just give you more fodder so indulge yourselves. Enjoy the feast. It won't stop me defending a newbie who hasn't been welcomed very fairly or anyone else who might piss you off.

Lampe - I hope you hang around whether you agree with me or not - so far you have not called anyone names or belittled us.

55Baracuda

Zorg: I hate warriors, too narrow-minded. I'll tell you what I do like though: a killer, a dyed-in-the-wool killer. Cold blooded, clean, methodical and thorough. Now a real killer, when he picked up the ZF-1, would've immediately asked about the little red button on the bottom of the gun.

[Scene shifts to Aknot, who is staring in confusion at the little red button. He shrugs and pushes it]
[Casually smokes a cigarette as the room with the Mangalores blows up]
Zorg: Bring me the priest.

"I also said I realize that somehow I manage to piss off most of you, and this will just give you more fodder so indulge yourselves"

Bethy, I agree with you. Believe it or not, I was defending her.

"I had never heard of black liberation theology. Now there is hatred"

Bethyboo,

Just one comment. All of Rev Wright's sermons were made available on tape. He has been a Preacher for more than 20 years. I don't agree with a large part of his philosophy though I try to understand it. After pouring over hours and hours and hours of tapes, the Republicans found one sentence in one sermon that they didn't even know if Obama had heard that they could pull out and repeat endlessly in commercials and videos.

If someone recorded 20 years of your public statements, do you suppose they just might be able to find one sentence they could pull out and paint you as something horrid?

As to Lampe. I hope she sticks around as well. I'm just very surprised that someone who ardently backed Hillary Clinton could turn their back on everything she believed and supported in favor of someone who opposed everything she believed. It just didn't make any sense.

I don't know if she listens, but her radio could certainly receive it.

"It just didn't make any sense"

To you.
But I'm sure it makes sense to Lampe.

Lampe......I think youre a fictitious creation......ie youre portraying a character..... I'm, of course, free to think that whether it's true or not......but I agree with Bethy too......so have at it......Lay on, MacLampe, and curst be he who cries "Hold---Enough!".

Well. I just got to read what others posted while I was writing, and have to clear some things up.

First, Lampe, you showed some teeth there. Sturge doesn't really deserve it - he's one of the most gentle people here,and very funny. If you want to wrangle like that, go ahead but be prepared to get mussed up. Most of us feel as strongly as you do about our votes and we do show it. Nontheless, I do hope you stay around. Welcome.

I also have to say that I take back what I said about Lampe not being welcomed fairly, because some of the recent posts talked to her as if she were welcome. The first posts , I thought, were rather rude. But then
I'm a jackass, aren't I, and more than a little boring .
The honest truth? I have never once in my life claimed to be fun.

"I have never once in my life claimed to be fun."

Well, get used to it. You are. :)

bethy-you're cool and I like you just the way you are.

Bethy

I'm a jackass, aren't I, and more than a little boring .
The honest truth? I have never once in my life claimed to be fun.

I think that ur one of the most interesting people here,,,not boring,,,and i had a lot of fun when we were exchanging ideas via our long blog sessions,,,, just saying

You can write some long ass posts, sometimes, though.

I still think Lampe is GORDO's angry black female persona.

Posted by: rosiethecat Author Profile Page | November 1, 2008 8:28 PM

See Lampe how nice some of the people here are. You must conform to be treated with dignity--You must not have your own opinions without the OK of some.

You will be accused of being angry as long as you are firm in your opinions and voice (write) them.

There are some decent people on this site, personally I like what you write.

You all will ALL be aware of when I've had enough beer by the sudden and oh so effective non-postings from what amounts to "this neck of the woods"........lol

Like the booking agent out on Franklin Pike told me oncet (and with a straight face......almost as straight as mine), after I informed him I was "re-forming the band"......."Keep me posted."

It'd be really hard to read this comment section and not have some at least vague idea of who GORDO is......

Ummm, Animal Control. Lampe SAID she was angry.

Jamie - lol If someone listened to things I've said in the last 20 years, I'd probably be lynched. Young and dumb morphed into middle-aged and dumb, and so on. I've made that same suggestion to friends, and it does take them back.

I know Wright has done some good things, but he preached hatred and racism. I certainly never said anything I regret in full voice in fron of hundreds of people, and never taught hatred in my 17 years in the classroom.

I merely was flabbergsted at the idea of separatism and a black state within this nation. The man does hate, I think and I took it personally, too. My precious great nephews and great niece? They will live in a future with people Wright has taught to hate - these babies don't know what hate is. They don't even hate broccoli!

I really was relieved when I read the posts I missed when I posted - they proved me wrong and i am thrilled

http://sarah-palin-2008.blogspot.com/2008/11/coming-in-on-wing-and-lot-of-prayers.html

Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens
Bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens
Brown paper packages tied up with strings
These are a few of my favorite things

I supported HRC, because I believed in her, and I thought wouldn't it be great, if we could finally let a woman, enter into the All Boy's Club. I feel that The DNC, has pulled a fast one on Blacks, and Dems alike. The DNC, had to pick a candidate, they knew, would pull in the most votes. So they picked Obama, because they knew, if they got him nominated, Black's would vote for him no matter what. This is what has made me so angry. I have been a Dem, for 37 years, I went door to door, getting Dems elected. I feel as alot of HRC supporters do, we were told who we had to vote for, like it or not. Now, if I really felt like Obama, was ready to be POTUS, I would be very happy to vote for him. But, I just don't think now is his time. What The DNC, failed to realize, is that had they worked as hard to get HRC,elected, they could have had The White House for 16 years. 8 Clinton followed by 8 Obama. Obama, scares me, when he says he wants to take, what people have worked long and hard for, and tax them at higher rates. I am not a stupid women, I am all for change and hope, but in order to achieve those things, everything must be fair and equal. You can not punish someone with higher taxes, simply because they have managed to do things with their lives, any more then you can punish some for not making anything out of their lives.

Rosie----did u say ass---ok---here

Life is all about "Ass."
You're either covering it, laughing it off, kicking it, kissing it, busting it, trying to get a piece of it, or behaving like one....
 

Rosie - It's been a long time since I've laughed like that.

I know I write long ass posts and it is a constant embarrassment. I do try to keep it short, tho, q.e.d.

Well, Solar, That pretty much covers it all. But don't forget the people that have their head up it.

Oh, I love em, and Solar's too. And speaking of Solar, Dude, I got the recipe for Mango Salsa from Chef Sheila. It looks so good.

Rosie---no snark from me just trying to have a little saturdaynight fun is all

Lampe

Obama's economic policies are a lot more like Hillary (and Bill Clinton's) than McCain's.

Do you think HRC would have ran the economy into the ground? Cause the GOP would be making the exact same argument if she were the nominee. Socialized medicine, higher taxes. etc.

Bethy

Reading what you think Wright was preaching tells me that you haven't read any of his writings or listened to any of his sermons. I could be wrong, but it sounds as if you are repeating what someone else told you he was preaching.

When wave after wave of immigrants came to this country, they lived together, supported each other, made investments in each other. Whether it was Irish, Germans, Poles, Jews, Russians, hispanics and Lations and now various groups of asians.

The only group that didn't really do this was the one that had been brought here against their will, with the majority living in slavery for almost 300 years and then in second class citizenship, had their family structure destroyed, and were consigned to ghettos where almost all of the business and power structure were of another race. At the core of Black Liberation Theology is the precept that they do what all other immigrant groups have done: help themselves.

Anyway I can understand WRight. FAther Pfleger is another matter. That one I haven't figured out yet.

Lampe, you say you were for HRC all the way, but you are disturbed by the fact that Obama will raise taxes. You say you were a Dem. for a very long time. Are you saying that you did not realize that part of the basic philosophies of the Dems. is that the wealthy pay more in taxes.

what we got, just 150 minutes left for Electoral Predictions?

Solar-Don't you ever change, either. :)

I will admit one thing Lampe doesn't sound like a typical blk women that is mad---most blk women 99.9% of them sound just the opposite, she sounds like a lot of what i have heard from misinformed white tavern people that i knew from time to time---they were not hateful,,but misinformed----Jason doesn't talk like this at all, and he has a lot of misgivings ???

jamie, tiptoe emailed her prediction:

Obama 395

McBush 143

Lampe

I posted this yesterday, but you may not have seen it

http://www.lcurve.org/

Now you mention working hard. 2/3 or more of all wealth is inherited. There is no "working" about it unless you mean working with what you got for free.

The top 1% of the US population has over 40% of the wealth (more than the total income of the combined 95% of the population

Until 1960 they paid 90% of their in come in Fed Taxes. This was dropped into the 60% range. Reagan took it down to 39%. Bush took it to 33%. I don't think Obama wanting to go back to Reagan levels is exactly rampant Socialism

Want to clarify--her statement that Obama wants to give $ back for slavery to me does not seem to ring true according to political reality----if Obama even tries this he is toast, he will be a one term potus????

The philosophy that the rich pay more taxes is not the Democrat's.

Both parties believe in it. The progressive tax system was started by Teddy Roosevelt. McCain's hero.

So the debate is not whether we tax the rich more - but it is by how much. Obama wants to go back to the rates of the Clinton years. That would entail rolling back the Bush tax cuts - which McCain opposed and called irresponsible when they were first announced.

Lampe is not Jason Solar.

I got Tiptoe. It's 9:36 your time. Are we cutting off at 11?

What I learned in the eighth grade from Lt. Thomas Badger........the difference between "If I was" and "If I were"

Subjunctive mood, condition contrary to fact: "If I were".

Obama isn't even the decendant of slaves, "Lampe"

Bad comparison--i admit

Look at this socialist:

"In May 2001, when Congress first considered the tax cuts, McCain said in a May 26, 2001, floor statement that he opposed the bill because "so many of the benefits go to the most fortunate among us, at the expense of middle class Americans who most need tax relief." And in 2003, McCain voted against legislation to accelerate the tax reductions enacted in the 2001 bill and to cut taxes on dividends and capital gains."

http://mediamatters.org/items/200801180003

Raising Taxes, is one thing. Telling people, that you are going to tax them at a higher rate, just so you can give other people tax breaks, does not sound very fair to me. And I'm really sorry that I don't sound angry enough, or Black enough for all of you. I am what God made me, just because I tend to carry myself different from others, does not make me any less Black. I have worked long and hard, not to be put into a class simply because of the color of my skin. But, believe me if I need to be, I can be just as angry and nasty, as anyone else. My parents always taught me, that it is better to talk in a lower tone, then to yell and scream, People will listen to your thoughts and ideas,with open minds.

cutoff at midnight EST? gotta watch SNL at 11:30p

Here's a Huffington Post article about Obama opposing reparations for descendants of slaves

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/02/obama-opposes-slavery-rep_n_116506.html

McCain:

"But I cannot in good conscience support a tax cut in which so many of the benefits go to the most fortunate among us, at the expense of middle class Americans who most need tax relief."

But he sure as hell can campaign on the Bush tax cuts.

couple more from comments to the predictions page:

Obama 388
McCain 150
7.2% margin
Posted by: bobdoremus

McCain: 283
Obama: 255
Margin: 6%.
Posted by: nota

A little ditty from another site:

You put your paycheck in,
you take your paycheck out,
you put your paycheck in and you shake it all about.
You do the hopey dopey and you pay the other guy, that’s what’s all about.

You put your service hours in,
you take your service hours out,
you put your service hours in and you shake em all about.
You do the hopey dopey and you work yourself to the ground, that’s what it’s all about.

O +7.5%

Obama 334, McCain 204, Obama + 5.5

Bethyboo sed: "What bothers me is that the idea of demanding a separate state for blacks here on this continent is alive and well."

What's all the crap about . Who demanding this and what does this have to do with the 2008 elections.

There is a ritual in Presidential campaigns that goes widely unnoticed by both the press and the public. Late in the night on the Saturday prior to a Presidential election (or the following Sunday morning, depending on the candidate's schedule), the candidate and his/her national campaign leadership team meet with the campaign's polling team to learn the fate of the election.

This ritual, beginning in the late 1970s, crosses party lines and is one of the most sacred in all of research. The polling team assembles with the campaign staff and awaits the arrival of the candidate. When the candidate enters the room, all rise until motioned to seat down by the candidate.

The head pollster then utters one of two phrases:

"Senator ___, the data suggests that you will not be elected the next President of the United States," or

"Senator ___, the data suggests that you will be elected the next President of the United States."

The latest predictions:
Obama, 287
McCain: 137
Too Close to Call: 114

http://worldsofspike.blogspot.com

the data is a ass.

--charles dickens

I once had a girl...
The Beatles - Norwegian Wood
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY5i4-rWh44

Jamie, here are my predictions....

Obama -- 316
McCain -- 222
Over/Under: Obama by 4%

The data suggests McCain will carry all the "too close to call" states except Ohio. However, my decision on Ohio is a pure gut call. I think this election is going to be a lot closer than people think...

Bottom line: Even if McCain take Ohio, it doesn't give him enough Electoral Colleges votes to win the election.

Full details at http://worldsofspike.blogspot.com

Bethyboo

All I can go by is what I was told. I haven't heard the whole sermon, but he meant it in the same way that the Old Testament prophets would curse a leader who had strayed from the teachings of God.

He wasn't calling for the destruction of America but rather saying that our actions in the world that had caused this hatred and it was for America to correct and improve itself to be better. It was a call to repentence.

As I understand but since I haven't heard it, I can't say for sure there was also a great deal of sympathy for those who had lost their lives and the families that were suffering, and the one sentence was pulled out of that.

I predict NC will go blue......

how about a prediction pool for who will carry which toss up states?

predictions page updated as of jamie's 9:50p relisting:

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/election-predictions.html

I predict whatever Chuck Todd predicts. He's good. REAL good.

Rosie----r u going to keep on TEASING me or r u going to give me that there recipe?? :-) thank C S for me.the only thing is i haven't had a mango for a while i might eat it before i make the salsa---i better get an extra one.

Rosie YOu need to make up your mind fast. Chuck has it at 313 Obama and 163 McCain with 62 too close to call. WHo do you want to have the 62?

I think this race, is going to be alot tighter than they think. I also think we are not going to know right away who the winner is. It is going to be a replay of Florida, with voter fraud being the thing that holds up this race.

Jamie,
Just checked the rove and site reading between his lines with the tossups, looks like his Monday nite call is 326-O 212-M for Karl if you want to update otherwise no biggy

Jamie-give 'em to Obama, I guess.

Solar Crete. I don't know if this is Sheila's Mango Salsa because I didn't write where I got it.

Plum/Mango Salsa

5 Plums (2 peeled)
1 Mango (peeled)
1 Cucumber
1 Red Onion
8 Jalapeno Peppers
1 Hot Hatch Pepper
1 Green Bell Pepper
1 Orange Bell Pepper
2 Habanero Peppers (1 red and 1 yellow)
1/8 Cup Chives
1/4 Cup Lemon Juice
1/4 Cup Cilantro
4 TBSP Sontava! Habanero XXX Hot Sauce
4 TBSP Coyote Cocina Tequila Habanero Grill Sauce
2 TBSP Sugar
2 TSP Salt
1 TSP Minced Ginger Root
2 Minced Garlic cloves

Directions: Just throw the sliced cucumber, peppers, onion, chives, garlic, ginger root, and cilantro into a large food processor and blast it into a chunky goop, then pour into a large container. Cut the pits out of the plum and mango and remove skins. Place the meat of the fruit into the food processor with the rest of the ingredients and lightly chop until chunky.

Pour into the large container and mix well. Refrigerate for 1-2 days, occasionally stirring to let the ingredients marinate, and serve.

If you’re afraid that it will be too hot, remove the Hatch pepper and one of the Habanero peppers. The recipe could probably also do without the two hot sauces and still taste great. If you have a mild chipotle or favorite barbeque sauce, you could use it instead of the Coyote Cocina Tequila Habanero Grill Sauce

Solar-1 med. mango, cubed and a little papaya
3 strawberries
1 finely diced jalapino
1/4 purple onion, chopped
bunch of purple grapes, halved
oj to moisten and salt to taste.
I can't wait to try it!

Teehee! I think Sheila's is a kinder, ummm, GENTLER salsa.

Obama - 368
McCain - 170

Popular vote Obama by just under 7%

Also in 2012 Palin will be out by SC but will make it to second runner up on Dancin' with the Stars!

Well we all know that Sheila is much kinder and gentler than I am. :-)

Jamie,
Make Karl a +5.5 and you probably need to give JM the 10 extra for Pogo.

Jamie thanks---it has to be , looks like something a chef would do,i better eat a little something before i start making it----looks like it is going to run me around the kitchen a little, on second thought, this is just what will surprise some friends, when they visit,,,thanks,,,oh byb the way very interesting conversation that u were having with bethy.

Okay Shanona

I got you.

I'll put up the list again tomorrow morning

Rosie---got it,,,but now i have try both,,,won't be able to try one and not the other-looks like jamie's a challenge though..thanks

Solar

I enjoyed the conversations. We used to have lots of discussions like those around here before the election. It's kind of nice when everyone is feeling chatty and tossing their two cents in.

Just learned a new historical fact. I knew George Washington was considered one of the best if not the best horsement in the country , that he was a great dancer, loved to gamble, and was the largest whiskey distiller in the colonies, but I didn't know the name of his favorite horse: Nelson

Here's a possible scenario:

Wonder why Bill & Hill have been campaigning for SoetorObama?
They want him to win because they know the TRUTH -- he is not Constitutionally eligible for POTUS and have the evidence to prove it. Before the Electoral College meets on Dec 15, the Clintons get that info out through a friendly media contact. The electors cannot vote for SoetorObama, so they cast their votes for Hillary. She received about 18 million votes, Biden around 10,000 (Fox News) in the primaries.
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"Electors are technically free to vote for anyone eligible to be President, ..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Electoral_College

Gordo,

Dropping in to visit us from your alternate universe?

Jamie

Well Jamie im looking forward to the future historical conversations,,,,when ever i get confused about something, which is often, i do rely on history for the real answer------I used one of your facts while talking to friend, that said that his father would never have voted for Obama cos he was blk------i told him that we already had 3 blk presidents----he was a little shaken by this fact, laughed and said his father is spinning in his grave,,thanks

c. 1972

This old trucker I knew in a former life....Mark, the trucker.....he was hauling a trailer full of South American penguins from the wharf at NYC to the zoo in Cleveland......he got a a good start and was on the outskirts of Old Cleve at around 1:30 pm and figgers, what the hell, I gotta get 'em there by 5 so I got time for a beer or two, then I'll take the pengs and get some sleep and head back. So he pulls into the truck stop with the bar next door and gets himself a pitcher or two and then three and finally looks at the clock...............it's 4:30........He's wasted......he lamps the only other OTR trucker in the joint and says, "Look....I'm gonna lose my job......I'll give you a C-note to use my rig and take them penguins to the zoo for me" ......the other guy's not so blitzed so he figgers what the hell and takes off with the penguins in back.
6 hours later......... my friend Mark has drunk hisself sober and he's out in the parking lot running across it sometimes diagonally and sometimes around the perimeter---chewing on his logbook.....back and forth, up and down---Where's my RIG??
About 2130 (9:30pm) he sees his rig coming down the frontage road and then pulling into the lot......The Penguins Are Still in the trailer.
All the penguins are still in the trailer.
He tears the door open on the cab and screams at the guy......."I gave you a hunnered dollars to take these goddamned penguins down to the goddamn zoo.....how hard IS that? A Hundred DOLLARS! To take 'em to the ZOO!"

The guy screams back, "I TOOK 'em to the zoo........we had so much fun, I took 'em to the movies!"

Hi All

Just heard that the speech Obama is giving in Springfield Missouri is packed. The line to get in reached more than 2 miles on foot. The local nbc news ( obviously biased for republicans -----consider the area) refused to estimate the number of people. That is huge for anything democratic in this area. I'll bet the republicans are flipping out!!!

Jamie, the list isn't in alpha order.

; - )

I saw SNL earlier tonight??

tt

actually 6 hours later woulda been 10:30, wouldnt it........

Thanks sturg for ending my night on a funny---i was a concrete trk driver for a few years,,,tis a good joke---night all

Rosie---thanks---i still think that u r a tease,:-)))))

Tiptoe

It is sorted by the number predicted for Obama lowest to highest + the fan in bleachers.

I think the TV anchors will probably give us numbers. They might not come right out and say "and the winner is Tip Toe!", so I figured the number would be faster.

I think that was Buddy Hackett.

Solar,

Send him on a few more spins by telling him about the gay one. :-)

Jamie, I knew you had a method going there.

: - )

tt

Sturg--thanks for ending my night on a funny--i was a concrete trk driver and instructor for a few yrs--i liked it--night all

Rosie--thanks, i still think u r a tease:-))))))))

Good Night All

Thomas Jefferson kept two bear cubs in the white house kept in cages on the south lawn.

History Channel is good tonight.

Have fun night crew.

The night crew is probably confused. I turned the clocks back already.

Why is this night different from all other nights???

tt

sorry for the dbl post, i did not think the first went thru

that's a wrap for predictions (u got in, Shannona) -- and thanks again to Jamie for keeping track

final page:

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/election-predictions.html

well, boysengoils......it's been a heck of a week, brownie.......I started at the crack of Monday at sunup and went from thence to quite this afternoon in a McMansion (for lack of a better term) on the beach....... 4 baths, powder room, kitchen, dining........cabinets already in place, all we're doing is drawers (104), doors, and false panels......"Grass" hidden hinges on the doors, KV self-closing drawer sides......false panels on all the appliances......dishwasher, sub-zero refer, warming drawer, trash compactor (what an anachronism), Ice-Maker, and separate beneath the granite counter sub-zero 2 drawer freezer....knobs on the doors and cup pulls on the drawers......Cherry office with 6 file drawers, black walnut kitchen, painted bath vanities, drop zone, and laundry room...... Monday mawnin' le cock crows once more......tonight is for saturday night lives and gimme 'nudder bud, bud........

NEW THREAD

mcsame 299
nobama 239
watch and learn

My prediction: McCain 274 to Obama 264, and with Obama winning more popular votes than McCain. Please note how tremendously unlikely this is if and when I win the superduper bragging rights contest. No one is saying this, but I just did. :-)--AMW

pogo-----------------

"Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said Friday she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate."

"... holds Obama's original birth certificate."

As I've tried to point out, a HI BC can be issued to an infant not born in the US -- it's a fact. There may be an original BC, but notice there is no quote saying he was born in HI. That was from an AP writer.
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"Annenburg's people have seen and touched and photographed the document ..."

Annenberg like in Chicago Annenburg Challenge. What a coincidence !!!

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UPDATE: FactCheck's photos of Obama's paper birth certificate proves, once and for all, that their image of it was a forgery!

"From the high-res photos that FactCheck provided, I was able to confirm a number of my findings that exposed the FactCheck COLB image as a manufactured forgery. To get everyone up to speed, there has been one, and only one forged image. From this one source image, several copies were generated. One was kept by the Obama campaign while one copy went to the Daily Kos, and the other went to FactCheck. Both the Daily Kos and the Obama campaign cropped their images before posting them on June 12. The Obama Campaign posted a very small, low-res copy to their "Fight the Smears" website, while the Daily Kos image was cropped close to the borders but left in its original size. FactCheck posted their uncropped image to their website four days later on June 16."

http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/2008/08/22/update_factchecks_photos_of_obamas_paper_birth_certificate_proves,_once_and_for_all,_that_their_image_of_it_was_a_forgery!.thtml