Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

amen!

Newsweek -

-- The Obama campaign was provided with reports from the Secret Service showing a sharp and very disturbing increase in threats to Obama in September and early October, at the same time that the crowds at Palin rallies became more frenzied. Michelle Obama was shaken by the vituperative crowds and the hot rhetoric from the GOP candidates. "Why would they try to make people hate us?" Michelle Obama said to a top campaign aide.

Don´t know about the points in heaven line...
That´s up to the allmighty to give him that..... And nobody has yet come back from heaven to tell us if God is giving points over there.....

B+ ,Craig

CAMPAIGN 2008
Hackers and Spending Sprees

Highlights from NEWSWEEK's special election project.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/167581

repost from 5:30 a.m.

can't help think about how ole lbj and hhh must be smiling about all this.

It is the sort of vindication that the Bushites are always running on about.

From the Let Sarha be Sarha file _

"The McCain campaign found out last week when the aides sought reimbursement. One aide estimated that she spent "tens of thousands" more than the reported $150,000, and that $20,000 to $40,000 went to buy clothes for her husband. Some articles of clothing have apparently been lost. An angry aide characterized the shopping spree as "Wasilla hillbillies looting Neiman Marcus from coast to coast," and said the truth will eventually come out when the Republican Party audits its books."

hope no one missed this in spy talk yesterday:

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/spytalk/

coulda sworn i heard ole gordo's voice in the crowd quotes

California gay-marriage vote still undecided
Bans pass in Fla., Ariz.; anti-abortion initiatives rejected in Colo., S.D.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27523989/

Anon -- the election is over. You can stop stoning her...unless, of course, you are trying to the Gordo-of-the-left title....

I agree with Patsi.

In the spirit of unity, I took my Obama sign inside the house this morning at 9 a.m. It's done its job, and managed to survive.

I did leave the American flag up on my house, though.

".... We can all use a breather.
I think we deserve a fresh holiday in the sun from Craig. I mean we worked our asses off during this election cycle on his blog.... LOL"

jason, and not even at minimum wage! at least maybe get a writer's pay per word.... or is that a lawyer's pay?

gratis, craig, pro bono?

if this election is as Craig's column suggests...... legislation enacted more than 40 yrs ago finally coming to fruition...... it's a good time to remember that true change happens slowly and with lots and lots of hard work....

let the process begin.....

A proposal in Missouri would require the state to produce 15 percent of its electricity from clean energy by 2021 (approved). A California initiative would require all utilities to generate 20 percent of their power from renewable energy by 2010, and 50 percent by 2025 (rejected).
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One of the reasons this Missouri proposal passed is because several wind projects have come online in Missouri in the last year. The local press has been good, mainly written with the benefits to small towns, and land owners explained in those stories.

All the Obama signs disappeared from the public areas of Benbrook last night...seems like people had my same thought and wanted a souvenir...I was too late though

What info could be on SoetorObama's original HI BC (if there is one) that would cause him to hide it from the American people? The only fact that would be disqualifying - the birth location.

How do Obots explain his refusal to make his original BC public? They don't. There is no justification for this secrecy. Obots don't like to be reminded about this issue because they have no answer.

anon posted: An angry aide characterized the shopping spree as "Wasilla hillbillies looting Neiman Marcus from coast to coast"..

I smell a sitcom for her if the talk show doesn't work out. Anybody remember the show, "Carter Country"?

Is that why she had tears in her eyes last night? The shoes, the jackets, parting is such sweet sorrow.

I do have to give props to Sen. McCain for his disgust with the nastiness of his crowd last night & his attempts to reign them in.

GORDO,

You remind me of the Catholic bishops who say that Catholics who voted for Obama are going to hell because he is pro choice yet they themselves face no peril of eternal damnation, even though they covered for priests who raped children in their congregation.

GORDO

That pungent odor in the air is the smell of piss on the campfire.

Give it up, dude.

Oh, Gordo, you persistent, little cuss. This is the American, "yes, we can" spirit of which Obama speaks.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/05/palin-once-greeted-mccain_n_141394.html

Bush slides in an appointment:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/culturemonster/2008/11/lee-greenwoods.html

Patsi -

Thanks for talkin' me down.

Just consider it pickin' at the carcass of the Thanksgivin' Turkey.

Give it up, Bear. Open season on women has been called off.

Give it up, Bear. Open season on women has been called off.

Posted by: Patsi | November 5, 2008 12:45 PM

Pffffffffffff. I hope so. Getting tired of this. I feel like this will drag on forever.....
Just like Gordo should put a sock into it (according to many here on the blog), The media should shut the F... up and find a new pet.

Let's all chip in and buy GORDO a case of tin foil. He'll need it when his proton accelerator breaks down on the way back to the neutral zone.

blue, maybe not a sitcom, but a cartoon series like bullwinkle.... kinda resembles rocky the flying squirrel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOJKzDSsG0Q&feature=related

Craig, an excellent historical connecting of the dots. As someone else said earlier, "Rosa SAT, so Martin MARCHED, so Barack could RUN." The bittersweet tears of Jesse Jackson and Oprah last night in Grant Park spoke volumes on the struggle from LBJ to the present. Thank our heavenly stars that we have arrived at a point in our history when we can say Martin Luther King's "I have a dream" is one step closer to reality.

http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/mlkihaveadream.htm

Yes, we read King's speech from 1963 each year on his birthday holiday. But, somehow, it was so much more meaningful this morning. Give it a read!

Patsi _
Here's some news we all can use :

Teen compacted in Wis. garbage truck, survives

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1120ap_odd_teen_compacted.html?source=mypi

ANCHORAGE, Alaska -- With his political future uncertain, a weary Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens, looking at bit deflated, left a gathering of supporters to go home and get some sleep. With 96 percent of precincts reporting, Stevens - the longest serving Republican in the history of the Senate - led Tuesday with 48 percent of the vote compared to 47 percent for two-term Anchorage Mayor Mark Begich, a Democrat.

Stevens' lead was fewer than 4,000 votes with more than 40,000 absentee ballots to be counted within 10 days.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1132ap_alaska_senate.html?source=mypi

Can anyone explain why SoetorObama is hiding his original HI BC from the American people? I know -- because he can and must.

"...seems like people had my same thought and wanted a souvenir...I was too late though"

Bear -- we don't want to see you doing a Texas perp walk for stealing Obama signs!

"Teen compacted in Wis. garbage truck, survives"

Holy crap, er, trash!

Gordo -- pleeeeeeze shut up with the tin foil talk.

OK, here's a happy distraction to discuss: What kind of puppy will the Obama's get?

Patsi,

I looked at it more like preserving a piece of history...

Funny story, my local State Senator, Kim Brimer lost his reelection bid even though every police and fire dept. endorsed him, every mayor in his district endorsed him and he had some teacher support.

I met him at a realtor function and when I was introduced to him by the Pres. Elect of the Fort Worth realtor's association, he looked at me like I kicked his dog. Even though he was our preferred candidate, I made a mental note to vote against this ass...

He got soundly defeated last night...

When I went sign saving, the only ones left were his and McCains...lol

or the Obamas.... plural

Blue,

I hope it's a pound puppy...

Bear -
For pure collectable purposes the McCain signs may end up being rarer.

GORDO -

I want you to go to Wasilla for me and search Palin's trash for credit card statements, I'm obsessed with her wardrobe bills.

GORDO -
I would go myself, but I'm putting in new shelf paper in the bunker.

Here's a question: How come Joe Biden was running for Senate again last night? I mean, what did he say to Obama? Well....if you woulda lost last night I just wanted to make sure I had something to fall back on.

"he looked at me like I kicked his dog."

He probably thought you were an Italian terrorist, Bear.

"... shut up with the tin foil talk."

Tin foil? SoetorObama is hiding a PAPER birth certificate.

I'm on the obama website now and everything is on sale...woo hoo! lol

"pound puppy"
Not likely.
My money is on a Charlie look alike
http://thepoodleanddogblog.typepad.com/the_poodle_and_dog_blog/2008/01/the-dogs-of-pre.html

Corey,

That is standard practice to ensure the seat stays in the party. Better to let the governor pick a successor than risk someone else losing the seat on election day.

hmm,

Obama site is selling signs for a dollar, but charging $8 to ship...wtf? Now I know how they'll balance the budget...lol

Prop 1 for medicinal marijauna passed here in Michigan. People will not be allowed to grow their own marijuana plants for medicinal purposes. Prop 2 passed. Stem cell research is now legal and without nearly as many restrictions in Michigan. Cliff Taylor, the GOP incumbent Chief Justice on Michigan's supreme was upset by Democrat Diane Marie Hathaway. He was the first incumbent to lose in 24 years. The repubs still hold a 4-3 edge in Michigan's supreme court. It was 5-2 , but one justice often broke ranks with the Repubs before, so instead of 5-2 votes, the votes often ended up 4-3. We'll see what happens now. Oakland County in Michigan will not be represented in Congress by a Republican for the first time since 1933 after last night. Not to forget beer and wines now going be allowed on Sundays in Holland.

I don't know if this was discussed earlier or not, but was anyone watching the Fox coverage when Shep Smith was interviewing Ralph Nader and he slapped Nader for asking if Obama was going to be Uncle Sam or Uncle Tom?

Obama is against free shipping? Hell, you can get free shipping from QVC! LOL!

Associated Press Uncalls Minn. Senate race, numbers require mandatory recount

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/11/ap_uncalls_minnesota_senate_ra.php

Ain't opera grand , the fat lady has been called off stage.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/lbj-can-rest-easy-now.html#comment-169506

Corey, true enough, but IME (well actually, in my experience thanks to Mrs. P's habit) half the stuff goes back, and QVC makes you pay the return shipping. I doubt that people who order Obama stuff will be sending it back.

Craig -- Johnson and his Party ????
I need to go back and check some history.....

reconstruction of the past?
Grade review for the day is subject to change

"Don´t know about the points in heaven line..."
Jason | November 5, 2008 12:09 PM

Jason, This must be a continuation of my argumentative nature today, but I totally agreed with Craig's metaphor.

I think by 'points in heaven' Craig simply meant that Johnson did the right thing. :) A+ Craig!

Lard, what was it you were going to make with your yard sign? A quilt? If you think that we can develop a proprietary process for making such items, let's joint venture.

Obama quilts
http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A0geu7Jj8RFJntgAJIBXNyoA?ei=UTF-8&p=obama%20quilt&fr2=tab-web&fr=moz2

I know, Pogo. I just think it's funny and I think Bear found it funny too. I mean, to pay more for shipping than you actually paid for the product you bought? As far as campaign signs, I hate when people put up campaign signs and leave them up way after elections. Same with bumper stickers. You don't know how many cars I've seen around here with George Bush '04 bumper stickers still on them.

"Johnson and his party ultimately got their reward -- points in heaven and votes on the ground." Craig's post.

Oh, that is so cynical. The reward is intrinsic in the act itself, not some future good fortune.

If anyone is interested in watching a good, heart warming, well acted movie, I highly recommend The Straight Story.

http://www.amazon.com/Straight-Story-Sissy-Spacek/dp/B00004Z4SD

I stumbled up on it while waiting this morning and I really enjoyed it...

As long as the election is over now. What does everyone think George Bush will be remembered for? What is the shining achievement of his 8 years in office? Does he have one?

Hey all, it's lookin very much like TraIl Mixers as a group nailed this thing, pending the final Electoral College tally. I am a bit swamped, so would be much appreciated if someone has time to calculate the average number for our prections. Last weekend i came up with Obama 345 for our group average, but several predictions were added after that.

our Election Predictions page:

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/election-predictions.html

Chloe, those quilts are just quilts. I want to recycle the sign itself.

Here is the Ralph Nader "Uncle Tom" clip...

Corey, I'm just getting a chuckle at my wife's expense. :-)

But I did see an even more extreme example in this month's Consumer Reports. There was an ad for an auger - that you could get free if you paid the S&H. And if you took advantage of that offer, you could get a free cordless drill to go with it, if you paid the S&H for the drill. Same deal for an extra battery and charger. Of course, S&H for all of that was $56.00. Great deal, no?

More important - what is the final number?
380 +1 - Then I owe Brain......
if not --- Yipee free meal

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/lbj-can-rest-easy-now.html#comment-169484

GORDO, from FactCheck.org Annenberg Political Fact Check.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
Born in the U.S.A.
August 21, 2008
Updated: November 1, 2008

The truth about Obama's birth certificate.

Summary
In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate to quell speculative charges that he might not be a natural-born citizen. But the image prompted more blog-based skepticism about the document's authenticity. And recently, author Jerome Corsi, whose book attacks Obama, said in a TV interview that the birth certificate the campaign has is "fake."

We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.

Update, Nov. 1: The director of Hawaii’s Department of Health confirmed Oct. 31 that Obama was born in Honolulu.

"The reward is intrinsic in the act itself, not some future good fortune."

Of course you're right Flatus. But don't forget we're talking about politicians here. :)

Oh, and I know you wanted to recycle the signs into the quilts. I was just playing. (I saw Lard's post joking about it the other night) And a great idea it is!

1. Holland is the most republican blot on MI.

2. GORDO, it isn't a question of Obama hiding his birth certificate. It is that you and that miserable dirty trickster & professional arschloch, Berg, never even bothered to go to the Oahu Co. records to look at the dam' thing.

PLEASE, get off your lazy ass and go take a look, or stop your tedious whining.

Sam Cooke-A Change Is Gonna Come

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUT1WgHat6I

My point in lowering the grade Craig - And I see you have a B+ from Jason.....

This statement "doing the right thing Johnson and his party" - might make it sound like the Dem's owned the success of the civil rights movement.

Correct me if I am wrong - but the Dems voted in greater numbers against the measure - and indeed without the Republican vote - this would not have passed?

http://www.aikenjournal.org/2008/09/josef-stalin-once-said-if-you-tell-lie.html

I signed up for the CQ daily updates.

Very nice....

Good Stuff

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibsP6XN2dIo

Ping -
I believe those Republicans would be called RINOs today . And the last of that breed are on the endanger species list.

"Was anyone watching Fox this morning when they were reporting about the crowd that gathered outside of the White House last night?

They were saying that the crowd was chanting things like "YES WE CAN" and"OBAMA". All this while they were showing a close up of the crowd which was actually yelling "Go home Bush, Go home Bush", and some were making gestures toward the camera!! They aren't even being careful to hide the bias these days.

Posted by: truebeliever Author Profile Page | November 5, 2008 9:58 AM"

Reminds me of that mob that stood outside the naval observatory at midnight during the 2000 recount—yelling, "GET OUT OF CHENEY'S HOUSE"

Where's the change?

The Chronicle is reporting John Kerry is lobbying to be named Secy of State...

Obama Taps Emanuel For Chief Of Staff

Illinois congressman (left) is the president-elect's first choice for the new administration. Sen. John Kerry was reportedly pursuing the secretary of state job.
http://www.sfgate.com/

It appears that Chambliss and Martin are going to a runoff election in 4 weeks. I wonder if the wheels of retribution will make their way to the backside of Chambliss?

this is beautifully stated...

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/11/toles-flawless.html

I just remembered that I heard something interesting this morning on NPR and even if it wasn't presented in this context, could offer some insight in the whole Rev. Wright thing...

During World War II, in our segregated South, Nazi POW's could enter into a restaurant and eat a meal anywhere, while a black man in the uniform of the US Army was forced to go in the back door and eat in a segregated area.

If you are met with that knowledge, why are you unable to express your outrage, especially when you fought in Vietnam and couldn't get a cab, while in your own Army uniform, because you were black?

Thanks, PIT. Looks authentic enough to me. (You sure Annnenberg isn't in on the conspiracy?)

And there's this - re: his alleged Kenyan illegal dual citizenship.

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/does_barack_obama_have_kenyan_citizenship.html

I hear there's a sale on tin foil in the Food Center side of WalMart Superstores this weekend. Have a nice trip, Gordo.

"Obama Taps Emanuel For Chief Of Staff"

kgc, wasn't there something re an emanuel pelosi dust up around the time she was seeking the speakership? how is their working relationship now? who else in active leadership positions are from peotus's group of advisors that may leave a hole if tapped for cabinet?

Ping Pong,

The republicans of today can't take credit for the work of people they repudiate. Republicans who helped pass the 1964 Civil Rights Act, like Sens. Lodge, Javits, Keating, and Aiken would not be welcome in the Party today. Even the late former republican Barry Goldwater was declared personna non grata for being too Liberal.

If you would like to see a great photo of the new first family, go to The Villager website

http://electronicvillage.blogspot.com/2008/11/wordless-wednesday-americas-first.html

Has there been any information about what will happen with Ted Stevens?

I love how Maverickland returned a convicted felon to the Senate...will the Senate vote to Censure also remove Stevens from his seat?

Hmm. Now the AP's in on the consiracy, along with the HI Health Dept.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iw1At-4G1xuE50oXVFRlBPfR3dqgD945OLU00

LMFAO

Bear, I think you can rest assured they will consider it. Reid is not amused.

the media's biased coverage has been validated by
obama's election.
a dangerous precedent has been established for
future elections.now it will be ok for the media
to pick their candidate and back him 100percent.
everyone here is just fine with it this time' it may not
be your candidate that gets preferential next time.
will it be ok then

xrepublican--------------

"GORDO, it isn't a question of Obama hiding his birth certificate. It is that you and that miserable dirty trickster & professional arschloch, Berg, never even bothered to go to the Oahu Co. records to look at the dam' thing."

These are such revealing statements. What do they reveal? A TOTAL lack of knowledge about the BC/COLB issue. I'm so glad you made that post. It explains why Obots have such difficulty understanding all of this -- you are not alone -- I'm not attacking you. The BC records are not open to the public -- they are sealed. A BC is made available to only the person named on the BC and certain family members. SoetorObama is refusing to authorize the release of a certified hardcopy BC.
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"The main reason doubts persist regarding Obama's birth certificate is this question: If an original Hawaii-doctor-generated and Hawaii-hospital-released Obama birth certificate exists, why wouldn't the senator and his campaign simply order the document released and end the controversy?

That Obama has not ordered Hawaii officials to release the document leaves doubts as to whether an authentic Hawaii birth certificate exists for Obama."

http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=79900

Well, later, dudes.

Xrep...
The ignorance of the past knew no bounds, nor did the righteous – both could be found in each party

This was my point

Does that clear it up for you?

pogo, seems there's another tin hat bit about not even being african american. some stupid parsing quoted in spy talk yesterday at
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/spytalk/

is roswell next?

No GORDO, it is you who do not understand.

The records are not sealed. However, persons who do not have a compelling interest are not allowed to get copies of the certificate. This is not a plot by Obama, it is a precaution taken by states to protect the public, collectively and as individuals, from identity theft and impersonation.

It is not up to the President Elect or his campaign to release anything. YOU are the one who wants satisfaction. They couldn't care less about your delusion, and they owe YOU absolutely nothing.

So, I repeat, get off your lazy ass, go to Hawaii, get access to view the document through FOIA. By doing so you can gain the understanding that the rest of us already have, and leave the life of ignorance behind.

The Civil Rights Act of 1964, in reality, could not have been passed without Republican votes and more REPS voted for it :)
Those are the facts Craig :)

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/lbj-can-rest-easy-now.html#comment-169465

GORDO you are PATHETIC! Don't you get it? Obama is President-elect. How you can be such a stupid shit at this historic moment is unfrickenbelieveable. You might have 1, 2 or even 3 people here who "appreciate" your garbage and paranoia, but most of us are sick of hearing you trash anything and everything Obama. He is NOT a manchurian candidate, just as you are not an investigative reporter or even someone who shows a modicum of intelligence.

I think more and more members of the trailmix have had it with your poison posts. You really should be ashamed, and I really think it's time for the blog to shun you totally.

pogo -----------------------

Your 3:22 post.

I discussed that AP article last week. I'll post the links. Like xrepublican, you are low-information on this subject.

Did you notice that there is no quote from an official? What you have is something written by the AP.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/checkmate-in-florida.html#comment-166911

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/my-electoral-college-predictio.html#comment-166982

pogo -------------------

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/my-electoral-college-predictio.html#comment-166988

ET,
Have not seen any posts this PM from you...
So how can I stream you .... Did not realize you had a radio show !!!

Learn something everyday

patd

Yeah ..I don't think Nancy P loves Rhambo all that much. She keeps encouraging him to get another job. Recentlly she was promoting him to replace Obama in the senate.

Hi Ping, I don't have a radio show anymore. I was a guest on KAOS' breakfast special show to discuss an expat's view of the elections.... It was fun.... 10 years away from KAOS.

I am soon to go to bed... I am very tired again!! busy day at work... amazing number of people asking me about the election. A lot of excited faces and people feeling that Europe will again be a respected partner with the USA ! A new era, new hope, happiness that the Bush debacle is about to end. It is like a political "Berlin wall" has been toppled and friends on both sides of the pond are seeing each other again in the friendship manner that was there pre-Bush jr.

Ping Pong,

I agree, and you sum it up nicely. Both Parties have distanced themselves from pasts they view as unlovable and indefensible.

Hey Gordo, how are you doing today?

xrepublican --------------

You are wrong and you know it. Just an attempt to divert attention from the FACT that SoetorObama refuses to authorize the release of certified hardcopies of all BCs.

He is stonewalling and using the legal system to keep his "hidden" past hidden.

well at least GORDO has one fan on here... Frankly on this historic day, I've had enough of his shit... bye all.

looks like the stock market is not joining in on the
celebrations today
maybe they don't like the idea of higher taxes
on personal income' higher capital gains tax'
higher corporate taxes'

The girls want a Golden-Doodle

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4752013a26642.html

The AKC vote for the puppy settled on the Poodle out of three "low allergy" dogs they recommended because of one of the girls allergies.

http://www.akc.org/poll/special/presidential.cfm

Michael Crighton has passed away from cancer.

Gordo,

I and several others have argued this subject with you for months. I think what's frustrating to me, possibly others, is that there does not seem to be any conclusion at hand. You've already stated that government officials lie. Anything that's been offered contrary to your position (AP, factcheck, fightthesmear, etc.) you disbelieve. So, I'm curious, how does one "prove" to you something that it appears to me you are unwilling to believe?

Goldendoodles are designer mutts, and are fantastic dogs! I know...I have one that I rescued because of a torn upper lip...and she's sweet and smart. If that's what they get, they will have made a most excellent choice!

Hey Rez, how did I sound on the radio? I thought it went well, until I forgot the name of MYSpace... I think I called it FaceSpace or HomeSpace or something... I wuz tired.

the vote on Proposition 8 has confirmed first and foremost my reason for moving to Europe. The unbelievable level and scope of homophobia in the USA has alienated me from my own country.

"The girls want a Golden-Doodle

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4752013a26642.html"

CUTE dog!

GORDO,

Repeat , it is not up to Obama to prove a thing. It is ALWAYS up to the person making the charge to present evidence. That is the way actions have proceeded in US Courts since 1787. You guys have lost in at least 3 courts now, because you haven't got a case. If you and berg actually had a case, you would have brought it before the court in Honolulu. Neither berg, no you have done anything of the sort.

You have no one to blame but yourself for being pig-ignorant.

euro tom
you can pack up and come home now no need to
live in exile anymore''by this time next year we will
be living in a regular Utopia over here'
all our problems are over dude

Gordo, you are pathetic.

"Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said Friday she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate."

What, you want a direct quote with quotation marks and everything? Health Department Director sounds a lot like an official to me. I suggest you fly to HI and interview those folks - maybe that will satisfy your need for punctuation.

Annenburg's people have seen and touched and photographed the document (they btw are very evenhanded in their criticisms of the respective campaigns' claims), and AP (recognized as the most credible of all the news gatherers) has talked with the officials at the HI health department who can confirm that the Dept. indeed has the original document, and who have confirmed that the original document is in their files. If you don't believe Annenburg, AP of the officials they cited, so be it - you'll never be satisfied until you hump your ass over there and lay eyes on the dingus yourself.

And I realize the short form COLB is not the hospital-generated form, which btw is NOT the official document. Don't believe it? Try and get a driver's license using your hospital "BC". The state-generated BC form is the official form, which is recognized by every federal, state and local government agency I've ever dealt with, but through an oddity in HI law, they have reversed the names of the documents as compared to the convention used in other states.

Step back and think about what you're suggesting that two people who had a kid in HI (or somewhere else as you suggest) did. The contortions that would have had to be done in '61 to secure something that would not matter for 47 more years (and was inconceivable at the time - that being BEFORE THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT was passed ) is just beyond the pale.

IMHO, you are the one who is low information, but then you believe the crap you link here from wingnut sites, and frankly, I think you've lost your mind on the issue. I suggest you fly to HI to disprove what Annenburg and the AP has reported since you've got nothing else to show. While you're there, say hello to Elvis and Jimmy Hoffa - they're not dead, you know, and I'm sure they will meet you at the airport to help you in your quest for the truth. And linking to your own posts don't impress me much.

Do we have any idea when MO and NC will be declared. Is there going to be a criminal investigation in Georgia about Saxby-Chambliss vote stealing?

Anybody got any good gossip? :-)

Hi mqw. I know you are teasing, but I'm here for the long haul. I actually didn't return to the USA for 5 years because Bush was President. I swore I wouldn't go back if he was still in office. I had to stop after 5 years because of new babies born into my family. Even my disdain for G.W. Bush wouldn't have kept me from seeing the babies.

falling asleep here... xoxoxoxo

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/lbj-can-rest-easy-now.html#comment-169573

No they just got news this morning about the true depth of the hole George dug. It scared the beejeesus out of them because it may be too big even for the US to handle.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/lbj-can-rest-easy-now.html#comment-169554
GORDO,
I will believe the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania before a socially conservative tabloid news and opinion website. The site also promotes Jerome Corsi's books that have been proven to be untrue or more succinctly promotes CRAP.
See Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WorldNetDaily

Jamie - George Dug ?
With the shovel of Dodds, Franks, Obama, Nancy P....

euro tom
just being sarcastic
congrats on your candidate's victory

X-Rep -- I kind of like a combo of pig-ignorant....

Pignorant

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/lbj-can-rest-easy-now.html#comment-169581

Really xr

Was it necessary to insult pigs?

Ping Pong you win!

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/lbj-can-rest-easy-now.html#comment-169590

Ping,

They may have helped, but look at Congress for the past 15 years and who has had control.

This was a Republican greed screw up. Some Dems just went along for the ride.

Jax------Patsi # 8 for u

Jax--only a little time left to make big $ hurry up---here are some very good tips that could make up you more $, u can make it all on paper so u will be able to even lay off a few more truckers

be aware of the next expected mergers so that you can get in on the ground floor and make some big bucks.
watch for these consolidations in 2008-(deals only last for the remaining time that bush has left as potus) in 2009 Obama will give it all to the poor--hurry.
1.) hale business systems, mary kay cosmetics, fuller brush, and w r. grace co. will merge and become:
hale, mary, fuller, grace.
2.) polygramrecords, warner bros., and zestacrackers join forces and become:
poly, warner cracker.
3.) 3m will merge with goodyear and become:
mmmgood.
4.. zippomanufacturing, audimotors, dofasco, and dakota mining will merge and become:
zipaudidoda .
5. fedex is expected to join its competitor, ups, and become:
fedup.
6. fairchild electronics and honeywell computers will become:
fair well honeychild.
7. grey poupon and docker pants are expected to become:
pouponpants.
8. knotts berry farm and the national organization of women will become:
knott now!
and finally...
9. victoria 's secret and smith &wesson will merge under the new name:
tittytittybangbang

xr - shhhh. That's because he's hiding behind the legal system. The judges are in on the scam. And the RWNC judges on the SCOTUS are just waiting for Berg's appeal so they can finally show that they are really leftists and are in on the conspiracy to hide the truth. All those decisions that have been APPARENTLY supportive of Bush and the RWNCs are just cover so that no one will suspect them when they affirm the dismissal of Berg's suit. The appointment of Roberts and Alito were the final steps in that part of the conspiracy, that started with the appointment of Scalia and Thomas.

Purple - Where you been?
What did I win>>

Hey and be careful to all with that Pignorant... Getting kinda close on the naming thing --

pogo-----------------

"Health Department Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said Friday she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate."

"... holds Obama's original birth certificate."

As I've tried to point out, a HI BC can be issued to an infant not born in the US -- it's a fact. There may be an original BC, but notice there is no quote saying he was born in HI. That was from an AP writer.
----------------------

"Annenburg's people have seen and touched and photographed the document ..."

Annenberg like in Chicago Annenburg Challenge. What a coincidence !!!

============

UPDATE: FactCheck's photos of Obama's paper birth certificate proves, once and for all, that their image of it was a forgery!

"From the high-res photos that FactCheck provided, I was able to confirm a number of my findings that exposed the FactCheck COLB image as a manufactured forgery. To get everyone up to speed, there has been one, and only one forged image. From this one source image, several copies were generated. One was kept by the Obama campaign while one copy went to the Daily Kos, and the other went to FactCheck. Both the Daily Kos and the Obama campaign cropped their images before posting them on June 12. The Obama Campaign posted a very small, low-res copy to their "Fight the Smears" website, while the Daily Kos image was cropped close to the borders but left in its original size. FactCheck posted their uncropped image to their website four days later on June 16."

http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/2008/08/22/update_factchecks_photos_of_obamas_paper_birth_certificate_proves,_once_and_for_all,_that_their_image_of_it_was_a_forgery!.thtml

Sorry, Ping, I ... just ... couldn't ... help ... myself.

ET,
I caught the last 5 minutes and you did fine. You don't have a perceptible accent like I would guess from someone living in europe. Nice pitch for TM.

Well, gotta go. Day turns to night, and so it goes.

I had a feeling that today there was going to be a few that did not like the election results-----i will just be throwing a acpl of jokes out there, maybe a good one here and there.

ET--u lost some weight recently, if u r not exercising to build up stamina, and relieve stress, that could be a factor in being tired all the time?? sorry if not my biz

Gordo,

Don't you get it, there's no means or manner for anyone to prove to natural-born citizenship to you.

Gordo, your posts are utterly ridiculous and don't merit a response. Now excuse me while I compose lengthy rebuttals to them. You've also so made despicable comments which have no place in the discussion; hold on while I link to them to give them more attention than they would have received otherwise. Now shut up and go away so we can celebrate this historic day of unity.

GORDO,

Don't you get it, there's no means or manner for anyone to prove his natural-born citizenship to you.

You don't believe anyone; gov't official, photo, website, news outlet. Tell us what you would believe!

______________

"Louisiana is proof positive why you shouldn't marry your 1st cousin."

Posted by: Anon | November 5, 2008 11:42 AM

I would appreciate if you would please keep these kind of thoughts to yourself. I was born, raised and have resided in La. all my life. I love my state even though we do have our problems. We also have some beautiful places in our state, friendly people and some of the best food in the country.

Jefferson has done well in his area due to the loyalty of the AA. As I said yesterday AA are very loyal to their own especially when they see a person as somewhat of a celebrity. It is often a good thing but sometimes it can be a problem i.e. O J Simpson.

BTW, where are you from Anon?

Craig Crawford must have a mighty high pay grade to know that God gave LBJ points on doing the right thing. But great analysis, even if you are underpaid.

Tomorrow is the Blog Blast for Peace - 44 Countries and all the states in the US except South Dakota in case anyone knows anyone with a blog in South Dakota

http://mimiwrites.blogspot.com/

That's right, Flatus, you ignorant m__________r! Your brand of negativity has no place here! Consider yourself repudiated, b____!

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/a-lesson-for-presidentelect-ba.html#comment-169216
"remember its nothing more than ignorance"
Hey Chloe
Thanks,your always so kind and bright,wished the world was full of people like you...Thanks also for the congrats on Obama's victory..I'm so happy that at least now we have a chance for change.These 8 long years of Bush Hell are finally coming to an end..Thats big...

OH Solar
Your on a roll today,so funny! You need to work on that aim...HA HA. You and Jason are a riot..Thanks for keeping it real..

champ....
I don't read Gordo's posts or any posts addressed to him....... some days it means I read very little of this blog......

but I thank the stars I made an exception for you......

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!

thanks...... your 5:00pm nailed it!

Jamie -
The Anvil that broke the camels back points directly and completely to the screwed up balance sheets caused by the perfect storm of crappie mortgages - as per the Democratic Party model -

AND WARNING - I am looking to be harmonic but if Barack caries this social policy with his righteous wind - we will all lose.

RebRenee -- Great plan..

So thanks to all that address their post to gordo.. It is like TIVO fast fwd for this blog... Auto skip

Now if Gordo will come up with something new that is supported......

and I add -
If barack fails with sound fiscal policy he will be a one term president

Why does SoetorObama refuse to authorize the release of certified hardcopy BCs and other documents that show he is Constitutionally qualified for the office of POTUS? That's something none of you will answer. Just take his word. That's what you are saying. If he doesn't have anything to hide -- what is he hiding?

ta da da
right on cue

One more on high finances, than its back to serious times again

The Stock Market... a better undertstanding
once upon a time in a village, a man appeared and announced to the
villagers that he would buy monkeys for $10 each.
the villagers, seeing that there were many monkeys around, went into the forest and started catching them. the man bought thousands at $10
and, as supply started to diminish, the villagers stopped their effort.
he further announced that he would now buy monkeys at $20 for each.
this renewed the efforts of the villagers and they started catching
monkeys again. soon the supply diminished even further and people
started going back to their farms. the offer increased to $25 each, and
the supply of monkeys became so small that it was an effort to even find a monkey, let alone catch it!
the man now announced that he would buy monkeys at $50! however, since
he had to go to the city on some business, his assistant would now buy
on behalf of him.
in the absence of the man, the assistant told the villagers. "look at
all these monkeys in the big cage that the man has collected.
i will sell them to you at $35, and when the man returns from the
city, you can sell them to him for $50 each."
the villagers rounded up
all their savings and bought all the monkeys.
they never saw the man nor his assistant again, only monkeys everywhere!
now you have a better understanding of how wall street works.

"That's something none of you will answer."

Who's he going to release it to that you would believe?

The FBI, ICE, DHS.

ROFL@solar

XPQZ@frank

Tony, Thanks. And don't forget! I adore you.

"chloe - When I wrote, "...not happy about this one," I was referring to the sale of wine & beer being allowed in my 'burb. Not sure why you think that was "inevitable"?"
Posted by: blueINdallas | November 5, 2008 12:32 PM

I didn't see this earlier today.

Blue, When we moved here from California fifteen years ao, I had never seen laws like that. In California they sold liquor in markets and every where else 24/7 since I was a kid. So when I got to Texas, it was all new to me. Since we've lived here, so many of the laws on alcohol sales have changed in so many counties, that I was assuming it'll end up happening everywhere. I understand you aren't happy about it, and I was not and am not promoting the idea in any way. Especially, considering the raising crime rate correlation that you mentioned (which I didn't know about).

I concluded (possibly in error) that things will keep changing in the direction I've seen them headed in other areas. I'm sorry if that offended you and sorry your county changed something you'd rather have stayed the same. :)

I occurs to me that another nasty effect of having an incompetent and smug president is the extra ugliness and near hysteria of the following election. The hatred of Bush is so strong that people will not be denied their chance to rejoice heartily. The mob outside the White House is a sample.

Me - I feel this almost giddy sensation of relief.

Im just wondering what cheney and company will do on their way out......it's all just too pat.......

Good question Sturge, can't imagine but they''ll be up to something.

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"Now shut up and go away so we can celebrate this historic day of unity."
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Thanks for pointing out the hypocrisy Champ.

Hey Bethy we missed you!
We started drinking at 4:30 PST -- We had a pretty good array of sparking wines Gloria Ferrer blanc de noir, Korbel Chardonnay, and Domain Napa Reserve. Food was pretty good too. My neighbor makes a great seven layer dip and another brought an artichoke dip that was quite tasty. And our guests from Santa Rosa carved the Obama symbol out of jicama and she also made an excellent dip using Stilton cheese. We also had a squash/kale and apple soup. And apple crisp. People were really happy. The trains won. I'm not happy about my new supervisor but the rest of it (except for prop 8 of course) was ok. I'd be curious to know more about why 7 and 10 lost. I was surprised Prop 2 won but this is their fourth state campaign so they must know what they are doing.

Sturg---thats what i think also---the Clintons left with the silverware---u know that the bushes are big thinkers,its going to be something big,,,some little-big surprise for the country, and one more thing for the new administration to straighten out---but there will be somtin?

Sturg---come to think about it ----that is where Gordos talent should come in handy---10-4?

Cham--hi--get a good tan?---

Champ---left out the p sorry--Chloe is right , should be a delete button by the wheel here

Did the Clintons steal goods from the Whitehouse?

No. When President Clinton left office, accusations were made to that effect. Representative Bob Barr asked the Government Accounting Office to investigate, and the GAO found no basis for the claim.

Tell liar Brad Blakeman all the computer keys were there too.

Marilyn Musgrave in Colo rolled to defeat. EXCELLENT!

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/12054520/the_10_worst_congressmen/10

Dog's Eye,

Thanks!

Are you on Facebook?

Fact check ---correct, they didn't steal anything,it is just such a trivial thing that it has no importance,,in the context of how i used it---maybe i was wrong so thanks for the correction

Thanks for letting me in on the secret, Pogo !

If Senator Clinton had won the nomination, I am sure that GORDO would have spent the last 4 months demanding proofs that she didn't murder Vince Foster, ranting endlessly about a coverup, and whining querolously, "Why are there no fingerprints on the deodand ?"

Actually, I don't believe he is up to deodand, but you get my point.

LOL@fact check. Hey Did you ever find out if the Palins are involved in the Promise Keepers?

old gordo certainly has become a powerful force around these parts.........

Sturgeone,

This is the end game :

babybush pardons every crook in the gang on Christmas Eve. On Christmas Day, he resigns, and dirt is sworn in. On New Years Eve, dirt returns the favor by pardoning baby bush. Then, on Jan 3, still in a drunken stupor from his 9 day long Presidential Ascension/New Years Eve celebration, dirt shoots to kill Senator Leahy, but misses and accidently blows away Antonin Scalia.

Isn't it some kind of unspoken rule that the in-coming prez never ever tries to prosecute the out-going prez for anything?

xrepublican -------------

"If Senator Clinton had won the nomination, I am sure that GORDO would have spent the last 4 months demanding proofs that she didn't murder Vince Foster ..."

Wrong. I was for Hillary.

All this about COLB web images, Fact Check, Berg, etc is a diversion from the only question that matters. Why does SoetorObama refuse to authorize the release of certified hardcopy documents that prove he is Constitutionally qualified for the office of POTUS? Why? Can you answer that question? Could it be that he is not Constitutionally qualified? That's a very definite possibility. Don't want to think about that -- do you?

Rosiecat- I thought so, but remember hearing last month? that Obama wanted to prosecute Bush et al for Iraq. Sorry I can't remember the source but I believe that it was either on CNN or Fox

OSH- That would be SWEEEEET!

And GORDO- Who says Obama didn't authorize the release. Do you have to have the orig. in your hand to believe it?

Yeah, well I wished I could remember how I heard it.

OSH, don't get your hopes up on any charges directed at Bush from the White House -- never gonna happen.

OBAMA'S ELECTION DAY BLOODBATH IN KENYA

So, with the native celebrations featuring public slaughtering of livestock...

In Obama's Kenya village, Election bloodbath Time Magazine

"The presidential candidate's half-brother Malik tied a bull to a tree, then hobbled it, and asked me to hold the beast's head to the ground as he drew a machete across its jugular. "Hold this guy down now," said Malik, 50, eyeing the animal's horns as blood poured from its throat like an open tap. "He could kill me now." After five minutes, the blood flow began to slow, and the fight went out of the animal, which stopped kicking and lay still, breathing heavily."

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/11/obamas-election.html

So Missouri was declared for McCain That just leaves North Carolina.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/lbj-can-rest-easy-now.html#comment-169635

If true were in deep do do....Your joking right....Ha laughing along with ya...

I can remember having to do chickens like that bull when I was a squirt.......we were sacrificing them to sunday dinner......

reminds me of a thing.......the difference between "commitment" and "involvement".......If you have breakfast of eggs and bacon, the chicken is "involved"........the pig is "committed"........

dog's eye

Maybe you could hunt down one of these girls and see if they hung on to the button

http://mediaburn.org/Video-Preview.128.0.html?&aaa=12&flagg=2&uid=4414

x-rep, great minds and so forth... i wrote this morning:

anselm, you spoke of the shrub doctrine's preemptive strike tendencies. how about the senario of preemptive pardons for the nasty neocons? can't you see w pardoning the dick, then taking temporary leave, swearing the dick in to pardon w, taking back the reins and going forth to do more evil until jan 20?

if lil ole us tho't of it, so have they. *scary music plays*

Gordo,
you sed; "Why does SoetorObama refuse to authorize the release of certified hardcopy BCs and other documents that show he is Constitutionally qualified for the office of POTUS?"

What good would that do and to whom would he release it to?

I ask because you're not willing to accept any response as truthful. You've alluded multiple times to the government as capable of telling lies and said, "what they say proves nothing". You've questioned the truthfulness of the person(s) holding certified documents.

So what would Obama prove in your mind by releasing any information.

You can't pardon someone who hasn't been indicted of anything. Besides, the Bush administration has spent the last 8 years funneling TRILLIONS of dollars to their friends such as Halliburton and AIG; they don't need silverware. The Clintons are small-time crooks, the Bushes are straight gangsta. While you guys wonder what they are going to do, they've already made it half-way to Mexico by now.

Just to give you all something to talk about instead of GORDO's conspiracy theories...

The 2012 Presidential race officially starts on November 22, 2008. It was announced today that Bobby Jindal from Louisiana is coming to Iowa on the 22nd for some sort of an appearance....

And only in Iowa....Had a campaign sign stolen from my yard last night, but in true Iowa-nice fashion, they waited until after the polls closed to take it...

I would like to extend my CONGRATS, to all the Obama Supporters on this blog. Although he was not my pick, I do send out a pray to him and his family. May God, watch over all of them and keep them safe.

what did ford pardon nixon of?

Lampe.......Thank you............now we'll see how he does.......

"Now, therefore, I, Gerald R. Ford, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from July (January) 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974."

Huh. I guess a president CAN pardon someone for nothing. Only in America. PARDON me. Get it? Pardon?

I beg your pardon?

"You can't pardon someone who hasn't been indicted of anything."

champ, we're talking about folks who preemptively went to war, invaded another country. what's a little thing like waiting for an indictment?

anyway, one of their own gop govs did this in ky. except he being the gentleman he is, didn't go as far as pardoning himself.

Hey Solar
How's the weather? Sunny and warm I'll bet..Just sayin..It was here today..I had a client today that's on the 17th floor overlooking the Atlantic,oh the view was beautiful today so clear you could see the coast line of Daytona Beach in the distance..I was doing windows and man is salt spray something else to remove,a little slice of Tony's world...

champ, here's a link on ky gov pardons

http://www.discourse.net/archives/2005/08/amnesties_are_goodusually_then_theres_kentucky.html

here's an excerpt:
This incident shows how the power of pre-conviction, and especially pre-indictment, amnesty can work harm (here, by removing a way for the public to get at the truth of the accusations).

Rezdog ------------------

"What good would that do and to whom would he release it to?"

That's a good question. Believe Jamie asked the same thing several days ago.

There's never been a situation like this -- there are serious questions about his history. I know you will not believe me, but it appears his past has been "scrubbed". Almost no documents are available to investigators. What does exist is sealed.

Some group would have to be created. Then all documents submitted to a panel of document analysts to determine authenticity.

with clinton it was "whitewater"...........so with big O it might be the Gordo files......all he has to do is keep repeating it.......here and other places?

maybe they're just looking for any excuse to set up a "special prostacooter........

Don't know if anyone saw today's Oprah, but she dedicated the whole show to Obama. You guys would have been proud.

Tony

today in the 60's and sunny, between 60-70 is perfect for me, and perfect working weather---i like living is il cos it doesn't get extreme, we get a little of it all. what r u doing outside on the 17 th floor,,r u in build maint?

i started the day off invoking the spirits of lbj and hhh. i'll end it with them:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxEauRq1WxQ&feature=related

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/lbj-can-rest-easy-now.html#comment-169687

Gordo,

Why have you not pursued with equal vigor the birth certificate for McCain? After all, he actually was born outside the boundaries of the United States?

Even if a commission were created, why would you believe them. After all they would then become "the government"

Tony
I said i was not going to get serious today and im not

Tony---a joke for u named sombich

A filthy rich and gay man in Florida named Tony decided that he wanted to throw
a party and invited all of his buddies and neighbors.
He also invited Leroy, the only Redneck in the
neighborhood. He held the party around the pool in the
backyard of his mansion.
Leroy was having a good time drinking, dancing, eating
shrimp, oysters and BBQ and flirting with all the women.
At the height of the party, the tony said, 'I have a
10 foot man-eating gator in my pool and I'll give a million
dollars to anyone who has the nerve to jump in.'
The words were barely out of his mouth when there was a
loud splash. Everyone turned around and saw Leroy in the pool!
Leroy was fighting the gator and kicking its ass! Leroy
was jabbing it in the eyes with his thumbs, throwing punches,
head butts and choke holds, biting the gator on the tail
and flipping it through the air like
some kind of Judo Instructor.
The water was churning and splashing everywhere. Both
Leroy and the gator were screaming and raising hell.
Finally Leroy strangled the gator and let it float to the
top like a dime store goldfish.
Leroy then slowly climbed out of the pool. Everybody was
just staring at him in disbelief.
Finally the tony says, 'Well, Leroy, I reckon I owe
you a million dollars.'
'No, that's okay. I don't want it,' said Leroy.
Tony said, 'Man, I have to give you something.
You won the bet. How about half a million bucks then?'
No thanks, I don't want it,' answered Leroy.
Tony said, 'Come on, I insist on giving you
something. That was amazing.
ow about a new Porsche and a Rolex and some stock
options?'
gain Leroy said no.
onfused, tony asked, 'Well, Leroy, then what
do you want?'
eroy said, 'I want the name of the sumbich who pushed
me in the pool!

All hail Oprah! It is right to give thanks and praise. Thanks be to Oprah.

LOL@solar. That was a good 'un.

again, with music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKDVNSpsBZE&NR=1

Meet the Electors! Virginia's Electoral College has a website:

http://www.virginiaelectoralcollege.org/electors/index.html

Hi Rosie-

Jamie ---------------

There is no way the two can be said to be the same. You know that. McCain does not have a "hidden" past, SoetorObama's past is unknown in many areas. I've only posted about the questionable birth place and a few other things that could determine Constitutionally eligibilty for POTUS. There are many, many questions that have no answers.

A commission is much better than nothing.

commission........funded by richard mellon scaife perhaps?

lol............here we go again.....

Why doesn't somebody (Jamie perhaps) start a "What kind of dog will the Obama's get poll?" See who guesses right.

Jack Russel

An Uncle of mine had two of them, Sturge. One was a nice dog, the other was crazy aggressive.

My guess is a poodle. I will miss Barney and his Christmas show each year. It was the only thing I enjoyed from the GWB administration.

*ha-cha-chas into the room*

Hello All! Two things from last night that I will remember for the rest of my life:

Jesse Jackson's tear-streaked face and Congressman Lewis' words. Two men who shared MLK's dream, who didn't just talk the talk, but walked that damned long hard walk!! WHAT a night!!

Posted by: champ | November 5, 2008 7:36 PM :
"the Bush administration has spent the last 8 years funneling TRILLIONS of dollars to their friends such as Halliburton and AIG; they don't need silverware. The Clintons are small-time crooks, the Bushes are straight gangsta. While you guys wonder what they are going to do, they've already made it half-way to Mexico by now."

Wow, you really understand what these wiseguys are after : The Loot of Nations. The big Q is, will the US and the rest of the world let them keep it ? On the other hand, just because these steal on a continental scale, doesn't mean they won't filch the silver spoons. Remember the babybush aide who was arrested for shoplifting 3/$10 socks at Target ?

The accusation against the Clintons in 2000 was simply a matter of some bushcrimefamily lieutenants projecting their own pettiness onto other people.

patd,

Yup. 2 Great Minds with a single Great Scheme. I love the way your mind works. Do you write crime fiction, by any chance ?

Gordo sed: 'Some group would have to be created. Then all documents submitted to a panel of document analysts to determine authenticity."

Maybe so Gordo, until such time, all you can do is whine around here about it. I have no problem with legislation bolstering the article II, but that's not going to happen in the near future and I doubt would be retroactive. So, do your whining, the powers that be don't seem to mind. imo, if it was anyone beside Obama, there would be less encouragement going on. I'm joining RR and skipping your posts.

GORDO,
Good grief. His "past is unknown in many areas." WTH does that mean ??? This isn't fact - this is worthless pablum. It can be said of almost anyone who has grown up poor in America. That makes 1/4 of us suspect in your book, I guess. 75 million of us. In fact, we know more about Obama's 47 years than we do about Thomas Jefferson's, Andrew Jackson's, James Buchanan's, Abe Lincoln's, Andrew Johnson's,US Grant's, Chester A. Arthur's, and Grover Cleveland's lives.

Where's the beef ? Rumors are not beef. The quibblings of questionable 'authorities' aren't evidence, they are drivel. You haven't shown us the beef. Show us the beef, GORDO ! Put up or shut up.

Rezdog ---------------

It's not just me. I posted earlier about an effort to get some electors involved in this - on three netcasts last night. Am listening to another netcast about it as I type this post.

One of the Constitutional requirements is "natural" born status. It's very likely SoetorObama does not have that citizenship status.

None of you can answer the question about why he refuses to release hardcopy certified documents.

xrepublican ----------------

"His "past is unknown in many areas." WTH does that mean ???"

I don't get into those areas on this blog. Am concentrating on name and citizenship issues here.

The guest on the netcast is going at the citizenship question very hard. She is tough and determined.

Just popped in to congratulate all you Obama supporters.Time for everyone to get past the election and support our new president.After all we are all Americans who want the best for our country and fighting amongst ourselves will not help.I was for Hillary and although I did not vote for Obama,I am glad he won.I did not vote for any candidate this year.He will be good for out state as bush was for Texas.So I personally hope he succeeds.

Ruth

o

The "Dona Nobis Pacem" peace globes for tomorrow, have started going up tonight. If you would like to see them, go to Mimi Writes

http://mimiwrites.blogspot.com/

Rezdog...

Don't you know that only Indians can be a POTUS?

After all their the only Natural Born Citizens since this was originally their Country.

lol@ap I thought Obama was part Cherokee.

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Because it has already been named. It is a rescue labradoodle

The contest the AKC ran ended up picking a poodle because of their low dander as one of the girls has alergies, but they went with the labrador poodle mix.

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Solar
I have a cleaning business.I'm a self confessed neat freak and excel at cleaning private homes.I was out on my clients decks cleaning all there many windows.I have with my partner and fellow neat freak Grace built through word of mouth a great little business.T

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Let me guess, he was delivered by cesarean section, and only "natural born" can be President.

Sheesh Gordo, I moved so much that my life is so "hidden" that I don't know all the places I've been. I'm joining the no more talking to the wackadoodle group.

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Solar
HA HA!! Funny,Funny!! Don't get serious to much cause I'm having to many belly laughs with you today....I hope there is a TM get together that works out sometime,cause I sure would like to meet you! Thanks again for the laughs MR.

GORDO,
Why are you dodging the most important question ?

Where's the beef ?

Why is GORDO refusing to answer this most important question ? The answer is undoubtedly that he has nothing. In fhere is no evidence that Obama was born outside Hawaii. Obviously, GORDO is desperate to avoid answering this all important question because it will unravel the GORDO birth certificate conspiracy. In fact what do we know about GORDO's early life as the son of the union of Donald Segretti and Lee Atwater, living in the many basements of John McCain, constantly on the move.

More on the WORLDWIDE GORDO HOAX INDUSTRY later. Goodnight all.

Lampe - very well done, indeed. Thanks for the softness of you post - my blood pressure fell a great distance.

Chloe - when I lived in Texas, 67-70, we couldn't buy fresh meat on Sunday and only 3.2 beer. It could really ruin an impromptu barbecue.

KGC - you certainly did better than we did. We were still eating dinner when they called it and we never did get to open the champagne!Still a memorable evening.

MQW - I don't know where you got the idea that we were all happy with the media coverage for Obama.
I'd say at least half of us here were disgusted and there were vicious and bloody battles about it. Quite a few of us will not forgive and forget. We just made a decision that we did not want another repub to run things. The first conservative scotus appointment will have me working to get rid of Obama, also.

I had a thought today - yes, I heard you groan. In refusing to recognize gay marriage, governments are interfering with religions and churches. Some churches do perform gay marriages but the state tells them they can't? See why church and state have to be separated? It's better for both. If the state can't stop a religion from making animal sacrifices, how can it stop a church from performing a gay marriage?

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