Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

Woo hoo!

craig...does it really take ten weeks to build a review stand? Who is running the crew, Tito the contractor?

"Who is running the crew, Tito the contractor?"

ROFL!!!!!!

ha -- hey, it's washington. it takes incredible planning and fastidious work to waste your tax dollars

craig, I can only imagine how much high the insurance costs are!

Jon Stewart was hilarious last night talking about people making "eye contact" in New York and smiling. It scared him. :-) It sounds as if DC has a bad case of the same reaction. Wish I were there.

Ain't it great!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/

true...great map...amazing that Arkansas and Tennesee are the home states of Clinton and Gore. They are redest of red!

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/hey-world-were-sorry.html#comment-169958

Blonde, Caught your post on the last thread. That was another wonderful story.

I had one cat drag himself home after a week, he had been shot in the leg. They were able to pin his leg too. The one I'm talking about that lost her rear leg was hit by a car not long after we moved here. It was a miserable time, but fifteen years later, she's still around and feisty as ever.

Yes Blonde,

Live just a hair above the Mo-Ark line right in the middle. Actually the county right underneath the light pink one. Howell county. Looks like we made alot of progress In MO. Hope we can keep it that way.

Blonde Wino-----while not normally a peggy noogin type of guy( I love the way KGC plays on mames)-----i will only borrow this line from u and never ever give it back :-))))

I am an extremely rich woman(man), I just do not have the money to back it up.i feel the same,,like i said --will talk more about this later on

TONY-----just a thought---if u understand cleaning chemicals already--might not be a bad idea to approach office buildings etc and grow your co, if u already have----sorry,, if u don't want to grow i understand that also.

Anon---read my posts u know that i don't want to go back a 100yrs, u r much better than me with word games so ill just pull back--but i know that by now u know what i meant, thanks

sorry to over post so early in the am maybe a boring joke is better

Two Kentucky businessmen in Louisville were sitting down for a break in their soon-to-be new store.
As yet, the store wasn't ready, with only a few shelves set up. One said to the other,
"I bet any minute now some idiot tourist is going to walk by, put his face to the window,
and ask what we're selling."
No sooner were the words out of his mouth when, sure enough, a curious Indiana Hoosier walked
to the window, had a peek, and in a thick irish accent asked "What might ye be sellin' here?"
One of the men replied sarcastically, "We're selling ass-holes."
Without skipping a beat, the Hoosier said, "You are doing very well... only two left!"
Hoosiers - God bless them - should not mess with Hoosiers.

chloe...how wonderful your cat has been with you fifteen years. It does pain me to watch a 3-legged animal hobble, the dog whisperer's pack has many an abused dog without a leg, eye, etc. Rupert owns the National Geographic channel which runs Cesar Milan's show -- for some reason that surprised me. I always see Rupert as a villain...

LOL@Solar. Hey Solar, I got one for you. I actually used it before but I'm not sure any one got it,
They have a new use for sheep in Georgia
Wool.
It's low brow, I know, but I'm from the south so I can say It.

"Hoosiers - God bless them - should not mess with Hoosiers."

HA!

True, That map is interesting, Texas doesn't look nearly as red as it used to. I keep telling everyone how much it's changed.

solar...love the humor.

" It does pain me to watch a 3-legged animal hobble"

Me too Blonde. But, when you consider the alternative.....

Blonde and True -- Tennessee is so red it bleeds...not so much in Nashville, but other areas. Especially East Tennessee. That's why I figured I could vote for anyone this time out. My presidential vote never counts here anyway. I think the NRA cost Gore the state.

Patsi-Are you in East Tenn? I'm from Knoxville. Lived there for 35 yrs until I moved to AK

Rosie....I dedicate Wooly, Bully to you today!

http://www.mtv.com/lyrics/sir_douglas_quintet/wooly_bully/827707/lyrics.jhtml

I cannot find any sung version on youtube...sorry!

North Carolina Called For Obama

North Carolina's 15 electoral votes brings Obama's total to 364 nearly 100 more than necessary to win the White House. Missouri is the only state that remains too close to call.

I cheated. I just said gimme whatever Chuck Todd said would win.

btw, CQ is still updating election maps, so check back for latest results, WH, Congress, governors:

http://innovation.cq.com/election_night08

"Patsi-Are you in East Tenn? I'm from Knoxville. Lived there for 35 yrs until I moved to AK"

No, I live in Nashville. Moved here from Denver in 1983. (I wouldn't be able to take Denver weather these days....)

Well, if we hate to see cats and dogs hobble, we need to face the fact the ugliest part of the Bush legacy -- wounded vets. Watching vets struggle and hobble back to life is upseting. Perhaps, my selfish desire to get the country on track should first involve getting our vets taken care of, immediately.

and I mean war vets, not veternarians.

The amount of disabled vets in AK is staggering. We have so many military bases.

If anyone ever wants to donate to one of the best vets organization in the country, try the National Veterans Foundation, run by a friend of mine named Shad Meshad. Shad is the best friend the vets ever had.

http://www.nvf.org/

Kennedy White House photographer, Cecil Stoughton, dies at 88

http://www.comcast.net/articles/entertainment/20081105/Obit.Stoughton/

And Patsi-surly the hot 'n stickies can't be near as bad in TX and it is in TN. That's why I moved up here. Had to get out of that kitchin.

thanks, Patsi, for the link and thanks to Shad.

rosiethecat

Finally, a musical link to Wooly Bully

http://www.last.fm/listen/artist/Sam%2Bthe%2BSham%2B%2526%2BThe%2BPharaohs/similarartists

patsi....you might know more about Sam the Sham and the Pharaohs.

I thought Missouri was finally called for McCain?

blonde-:) Good song

I still think that Obama might have won ARK if he had tried. They were really pissed at what they saw as dissing of the Clintons by him. But they majorly dem in the gov't there. If he had gone down there with Bill and Hillary I think he might have had a chance. But it is small beans compared to the map he put together.

Okay what has to be done to dump Boehner ... churlish, rude, and sarcastic. He couldn't just let Obama pick Emanuel without saying something vicious about the choice.

Jamie--

those results I posted this morning while on the official state site were still listed as unofficial. Maybe they are waiting for the certification before including them.

Jamie...I will say something vicious about Boehner...he will develop skin cancer from those pointless hours spent under the UV lights to get his sunless tan.

*snicker... snort*

off to work now...must pay taxes and insurance.

All you anti-war people: Do some research on Emanuel.

A song for the honeymoon (keep the tissues handy) -
"We Need One Another Right Now"

http://www.oprah.com/media/20081105_tows_electionsong

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/honeymoon-in-washington.html#comment-170005

Does that mean he only approves of people with artificially acquired, post-birth tans?

Hey, GORDO. What's up?

But Blonde & Jamie, that "tan" makes his blue eyes really pop, don'tcha think?

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/honeymoon-in-washington.html#comment-170013

rosiethecat rattles the cage

before I leave, just in my inbox, the newest collector plate and coffee mugs of Obama.

http://www.discountmugs.com/us/obama.php

His hair actually looks a bit gray on the plate! I ordered my wedding wine glasses from discount mugs...good company. Order up!

You never know. There may be some chunks of Apple in that twinkie salad.

Well, there's a recipe we need to add to the C'list cookbook: Twinkie salad (hee-hee) apples, optional

LOL@BLUE

did I just hear Faux News refer to Rahm as a ballerina? The correct term is danseur. No apples in the Faux News twinkie salad.

jamie,

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032553

Now at least MSNBC has all the states called - Obama 364, McCain 173, 52-46%

pogo ----------------

It was not my intention to bring the subject up today, but since you made reference:

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/hey-world-were-sorry.html#comment-169826
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You have decided to defend SoetorObama's decision to keep important documents hidden from the American people. Apparently, you believe the Constitution just doesn't matter in this situation.

Instead of answering the question:

Why is SoetorObama refusing to authorize the release of certified hardcopy BCs and other documents which would prove he is Constitutionally qualified for the office of POTUS?

You and others try to shift the discussion to Berg, standing, Annenberg FactCheck, FTS site, misleading statements by HI officals and AP writers, etc.

SoetorObama is keeping these documents secret because he can and must. He does have a "hidden" past and it has to stay hidden for him to avoid very serious legal problems.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/06/palin-africa-charge-comes_n_141783.html

Come on, GORDO, I thought you might have somethng on Rahm.

you're bad, rosie, sooooo bad LOL

meow

Gordo, you misconstrue. I don't accept your premise. I didn't say I defended him not releasing the documents - I said I believe he has. You just aren't satisfied with what has been released and with who has examined them and reported on their examination - IMHO that is your problem and not Obama's - and you make absurd assumptions about the constitution, and who has rights and responsibilities under it. If there is a dispute over what the constitution requires, it is up to the courts to resolve that dispute. I'm not rehashing the dozen or so ways Berg (and you by defense of him) screwed the pooch in his efforts. You didn't require the same of McCain despite the same or similar questions being raised about him, and accepted much less "proof" of his qualifications to serve if elected. You were being hypocritical then - you are just factually and legally wrong now. And you are repeating yourself.

The legal issue of same sex marriage is a little funny to (not ha ha) but stupid funny-----here is a thought------in the catholic church u r married by a priest that performs the rites-------the priest that married my wife and my i was one of the priest that was accused and convicted for having relations with kids-------if on moral grounds some don't want to give the gay community the ability to get married----why don't they use this as a kind of information (in your face type of thing) to accomplish thru advertising etc etc, and of course they can get andrew sullivan to spear head on tv and print and others like him that have a voice to show an other side of it,,,,,hey i wonder if i have a loop hole here to get out of marriage ( if i bring it up like a smart ass my wife will just open the door and say-------) the priest are supposed to be in the state of grace (pure) in order to give the sacraments no???well they weren't,,,,,soooo a lot of people out there are not really married, forgiven at confesional, baptized, or any of the witch rituals that go on???

I'd like to have something on Rahm...

I am so fricken tired again !! working hard....

Hope everyone is doing good. So many people in Europe are happy about the American election and feeling that a new era of mutual respect is coming. Good stuff.

rosiethecat ----------------

You can start with this, there is much more.
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Rahm Emanuel’s War

"Yesterday Truthout ran an examination of how Emanuel, who remains in a position to do candidate recruitment for the DCCC this cycle, used his similar position last time around to sabotage the campaigns of grassroots progressives who favored leaving Iraq, all so he could recruit candidates who, when they've won, have gone on to provide Bush and the Republicans everything they want on Iraq and more."

http://firedoglake.com/2007/09/07/rahm-emanuels-war/

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/honeymoon-in-washington.html#comment-170025

Just when I thought it was safe to come on here ... GORDO there has to be something more than that birth certificate stuff. How about the infanticide nonsense?

Just love how the Republicans can't seem to get with the program. Keep it up Mr. Boehner with your shitty attitude maybe at the midterms we can turn the whole country blue. We don't need this crap right now, we need to fix what's wrong and the Republicans are continuing to act like adolescents throwing spit balls at the new class president.

Feeling good and feel good stories
Cable car gripmen --play hail to the chief as Obama victory announced:

"But the real fun was out on the square, where hundreds of revelers literally danced in the streets, waved Obama signs and chanted, "O-bam-a!" and "Yes we can!"

The throng was egged on by the happily honking motorists and some particularly inspired cable car grip men, who clanged away merrily on their bells, surrounded by a mob and stuck on the tracks.

"I have to tell you, that speech brought tears to my eyes," said Ellis Cato, who with fellow grip man Craig Wiggins, was ringing up "Hail to the Chief" and other tunes on the bell. "Damn, this feels good!"

Cato and Wiggins still couldn't believe their luck. They thought work would make them miss the president-elect's speech. Turned out they were ending their route, where there's a Muni shack with a TV, when it came on.

"You could see in that crowd in Chicago and this one here that this country has all these great people of all nationalities and they're coming together," Wiggins said.

Oh, and by the way, I did not bring the subject up or refer to it - in response to a comment about perceived hypocrisy and unity I noted only that I like to argue with you and didn't mean to suggest I wanted you to agree with me or shut up or go away. You chose the subject and have brought it back up.

As one congressman said yesterday, Rahm is a "great policy guy" Elegant words indeed.

Craig, GORDO's being an asshole again !!! I have an idea... maybe we could spread some "Preparation H" on him and watch him dissolve... Get it? "asshole"... "Preparation H".

Nice thing about being inappropriate when one is tired is that I can blame my own exhaustion. :D

But seriously... GORDO... why don't you poof away somewhere and create your own blog. I am sure most of us would (n't) join !

Solar, "soooo a lot of people out there are not really married, forgiven at confesional, baptized, or any of the witch rituals that go on??? " Maybe not in the eyes of the Catholic Church perhaps ... but i the eyes of the state, I'm afraid you don't have a Get Out of Marriage Free card.

GORDO,

You're incessant need to be this one trick pony is akin to one of those 6 hour porn tapes...same thing, over and over and after 15 minutes, you lose all interest and just walk away.

ET... Its my fault. I was interested to see what Gordo had to say about Rahm. And as to what YOU said....naughty, naughty. But I agree. Threesome anyone?

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/honeymoon-in-washington.html#comment-170041

hey i don't want GORDO to go away. he's not saying anything that isn't all over the internet -- stuff i'd rather not go read myself, but like knowing what's out there

sure why not? LOL

I still think a trip on a left over Apollo shuttle would be nice...

But enough of GOOFO...

Do I still have electoral college bragging rights?

Pogo---30 year with the same gal---and in my eyes along with the states im staying married----u know, im pretty independent, i can cook a little, sew a little (there is a song in there somewhere) and can survive,,,but i would be lost without my friend that lets me be me, it sounds like yours does also---

I think it must be GORDO who rattles the cages and pulls the chains.......lol

remember.........GORDO spelled backwards is ODROG

Solar, when I first read your stuff I really thought you were Gay. Know why? because most straight guys aren't as sensitive as you! Kudos my friend!

Here's a song by Christine Lavin ... Sensitive New Age Guys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1bumOZENyI

I was actually dancing on stage during once of her concerts at Evergreen... I was one of the "Sensitive New Age Guy Chorus"... LOL

Solar, I don't know what I'd do without her. She lets me be me ... to a point. You're probably common law wed anyway if they recognize that in your state - they don't here in WV, bu twe had one of those traditional weddings - performed by a law school friend of mine in the bar at the Jefferson Hotel in Richmond.

D'ya s'pos they'll put Barney down for bitting that reporter or will he get a presidential pardon?

15+4+18+4+7

I think old Gordie is an outrider for the idea to get a special prosecutor in place so they can go ahead and get started hounding obama for the next (right now) 4 years till they think they have found something they can scream about and try to impeach him on.........

pogo ---------------------

You still will not answer the question:

Why is SoetorObama refusing to authorize the release of certified hardcopy BCs and other documents which would prove he is Constitutionally qualified for the office of POTUS?
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I'll play your diversion game.

He has released nothing. Annenberg FactCheck (as in Chicago Annenberg Challenge) is in on the fraud.
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"FactCheck's photos of Obama's paper birth certificate proves, once and for all, that their image of it was a forgery! "

http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/2008/08/22/update_factchecks_photos_of_obamas_paper_birth_certificate_proves,_once_and_for_all,_that_their_image_of_it_was_a_forgery!.thtml
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So just when did Annenberg FactCheck become the final word on anything? Who fact checks FactCheck ?
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Just admit it. You consider a SoetorObama Presidency MORE iimportant than the US Constitution.

ET
ET---not gay by a long shot-----just had 4 sisters and a mom that showed me another side of all the macho shit-------i showed it myself from to time,,, played a lot of sports-----men are sensitive too bu mostly to each other half the time----u want sensitive get hurt while doing and end run, or twist an ankle playing basketball-all of your team mates will cry for u, carry u, and everything else that they are afraid to show others----me i will punch your lights out for being a macho shit---not only that i was punished enough times in front of the tv and forced to watch---MY LIFE TO LIVE----at the sock hops in school (dances) i found out that if u showed some sensitivity that ( girls could not believe that i watched soaps) they might show u juuust a little------on a more serious note---r u doing any exercises other than work , it helps to build energy and relieves stress??

Craig---------------------

"... like knowing what's out there ... "

Here's a good one.

http://israelinsider.ning.com/profiles/blogs/is-obama-the-secret-son-of

like i say, GORDO, i'll just rely on you to tell us what's important, have too many links to keep up with already

when does the impeachment campaign begin? might as well get started

Back from Jury Duty.... then it hit me....

Craig,
I got it…. Your last post was great Sarcasm …

Grade change A+

You had many people fooled-- going around this time of year….
Like the Righteous winds of Hope helping the stock market

leiberman is going to the principals office---he will not be able to play both sides anymoe?

What follows many induced highs is one hell of a headache when reality comes crashing in...

Lets see Which Barack Shows Up

Craig, I have to tell you, the back and forth between you and Champ on the previous blog had me in stitches !! LOL! LOL! LOL!

Champ was being his usual semi-cynical self and you keep saying

"C'mon Champ, let's change the world !!"

I really think you wore the poor guy down. I didn't know what to make of Champ at first but like most here, I appreciate his participation. The guy's really intelligent even though we often disagree.

"C'mon Craig, let's change the world !!"

"GORDO spelled backwards is ODROG"

sturge, and in pig latin it's "ordo-gay"
but what's in a name? that which we call a gordo
by any other name would smell as sweet? feet? meat?

oh gordo, gordo, of course they've hidden his past. you didn't read my post of yore about the no-such-agency and the company supplying the baby barry with enumerable bcs, colbs, passports etc.

Gordo, you've lost it. I haven't diverted attention from anything. Let me be as clear as I can. I accept the documentation provided by Annenburg Fact Check and the AP as being sufficiently credible to satisfy my own curiosity about Obama's birthplace, and I don't care about what was originally posted on the Stop The Smears site or on Kos. Refutation of that by a somewhat anonymous blogger is hardly dispositive, and his own opinion of the "proof" he's offered that the document is a forgery is appropos of nothing other than his opinion. (And consider this - Townhall.com, on whose blog polarik's work appears, has never put his conclusions into the NEWS sections of its site). I can only conclude that is because even Townhall does not consider his conclusions credible enough for inclusion there. Finally, I don't think the constitution requires that Obama do what you require or that any proof required by it be made available to you or to Phillip Berg as a certified hard copy. Face it, your argument doesn't pass muster.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/honeymoon-in-washington.html#comment-170063

Ping, I think you nailed it. It was irony...

C'mon everyone, LET'S CHANGE THE WORLD!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmxT21uFRwM

here comes a time
When we head a certain call
When the world must come together as one
There are people dying
And it's time to lend a hand to life
The greatest gift of all

We can't go on
Pretneding day by day
That someone, somewhere will soon make a change
We are all a part of
God's great big family
And the truth, you know love is all we need

USA Farts for Africa.

Chloe- Don't know if you're still around, but we made some progress, have the images of the chocolates up now! Sadly we had to do a number of George Castanza moves and it worked. On to the shopping cart!

I have to admit, there are some seriously good artists on the WE ARE THE WORLD song/video. It's a good song and it's nice to see Michael Jackson semi-sane and still black.

the no-such-agency and the company supplied the baby barry with enumerable bcs, colbs, passports etc.

can you, gordo, or anyone else prove to me that they didn't?

so far so good----i like Rahmbo,,,the kennedy's will drive my r friends nuts,,,but i hope that he takes his time with the sec of treasury,,,,this t me is the big one??

Hi all...been traveling since Monday....did I miss anything???...laughs

" didn't seem bothered by Rahm's history when he was supporting Hillary. "

Try to keep up. Rahm remained neutral during the primary.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/honeymoon-in-washington.html#comment-170068

Pogo, I don't think he ever found it...

Yeah Jax, we kicked your republican butt :D

ET,
I can deal with a butt kicking every now and then.....you can't truly enjoy a victory without a few good losses under your belt.....

pogo ---------------

You still will not answer the question:

Why is SoetorObama refusing to authorize the release of certified hardcopy BCs and other documents which would prove he is Constitutionally qualified for the office of POTUS?

You know why. Documents are held back for a reason. He has something to hide. What could that be? At the worst: He is an"illegal" alien with the legal name (for 40+ years) of Barry Soetoro.

GORDO, an nationally recognized leader in the growing Hoax Industry today again failed to identify any evidence that would lead a rational person to believe that Senator and President Elect Obama was born anywhere other than Honolulu, Hawaii.

When asked about his ducking the question GORDO replied, "I don't get into those areas on this blog."

ET, LOL. I only meant lost it in its rhetorical sense. :-), but you knew that.

ok, we'll give you a victory in 2040. after all, equal time for majority party ... :-)

Gordo,

I did answer the question. Apparently you have not learned to read. Let me repeat (and I'll type slowly this time so you'll be sure to get it) - I disagree with your premise. I think he has - just not to you or Berg.

Now who's diverting?

I just made a trip visitng my steel manufacturing accounts including those in Mexcio and across the board they are projecting volumes in the 30% range compared to this year. Several are going to completely halt operations for the rest of the year. Consequently my big scrap metal processors are also
stopping operations. This is a very steep decrease in activity and these guys are generally leading indicators....get ready this isn't going to be pretty.

Yeah, jax. Bloomberg dropped his tax rebate program in NYC.

The Bank of England just dropped their interest rate 1.5 %

Jax. Any connections to the big new Metal recyle plant in South Georgia?

One mexican steel importer in Brownsville just defaulted on 5000 tons of steel billets. While sitting on the docks his product fell in value by 50%. The stevedore was required to sieze the steel in order to be paid. Unfortunately he can't find anyone to buy it. Noone will give him even 30 cents on the dollar.

the jay leno "interviews"... The Michael Jackson interview at the end is my personal favourite... also love the O.J. interview

http://www.jibjab.com/view/156993

"You don't have to be a PUMA to question the coming administration. If people are to be bashed for questioning things like that FISA vote, and whether we stay mired in the Middle East, then it's exactly the same treatment that Bush supporters gave us for the last four years. I'm going to take him at his word, that he can and will deliver what he said during the primary season." [Patsi 12:02]

thanks, patsi. yes, give him a chance, good will and time to fulfill those promises. he is "our" peotus now. all of ours, yours, mine and gordo's......

GORDO,
If Senator & President Elect Obama weren't a citizen, how could he have served these many years in the Senates of Illinois and the US ? How could he have avoided outing by the official mccain campaign team - as opposed to you, rush, hannity, oreilly, savage, the podhoetz mob, and karl rove. Are mickey reagan and ann coulter part of this plot, too ? Why is it that no major Obama haters have emerged with an accusation ? God knows they have accused him of every other damn thing.

Finally, why do YOU continue to duck the most important question :"Where's the beef ?"

Ping
Not directly. Im a transport company. Tug, barges, ships, trucks. I also operate a carbon processing operation which feeds the steel industry. I move alot of scrap but don't hold title. Looks like a significant downturn for steel and any related industries. On the postive side I've been trying to upgrade my tug/barge fleet and cheap steel will be huge for newbuildings.

Solar -
I was thinking of that little kid at the gun show last week, and all those little kids in Africa carrying AK's. I've never been much on nation state when I use "we", more human race "we".

Too much Whole Earth Catalog years ago.

Dark days in the retail sector.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/07/business/07shop.html?hp

Jack -
What part of Texas are you in ?

Anon,
I'm based in Houston.

I was in Houston once... I nearly passed out from the heat and humidity.

Laughs....you definitely want to be careful when you choose to visit. Oct - May are great. Summer can be brutal.

Pogo -
As we were constructing our service economy, and juicing it up with easy credit, I don't think anybody stopped to ask what would happen if the music stopped.
At least with musical chairs only one at a time gets taken away. The scary part of this deal is no has a clue has how many chairs are missing.

Anon ---got u---i always we in the same sense--

yeah when u see 9-16 year olds carrying ak's---not good,,we can teach them to care for others , or we can mold them into hating machines---which imo is more hateful than the people that hit us on 9/11,,they were religious nuts---but to train young minds to hate and kill is just pure evils to me

GORDO,

When you go to the fake birth certificate conventions, will they share space with the 9/11 truthers to offset some costs?

I'll admit, I'm a JFK conspiracy buff. Since I'm in the DFW area, I make the annual trek to Dealy plaza. If the American public and many of it's public servants won't admit that Oswald wasn't the shooter, what makes you think the "truth" about Obama will ever come out?

I'm starting to leave out important words. I hate it when that happens.

i always use we in the same sense,,,that is

Gordo is a prime example why the mental health sanitariums should not have been closed in the 1960s.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-birth-certificate-30-oct30,0,1742172.story

Hmmm, note the last line of the next to last paragraph.

"Dunham was three months shy of her 19th birthday when Obama was born. But subsequent acts of Congress relaxed the requirement to five years in the U.S., including just two years after the age of 14, meaning Dunham could have been 16 and still qualified even if Obama was born in another country, Volokh said. Congress made the law retroactive to 1952, doubly covering Obama."

If Volokh is correct about that - and if he's not, show me the money - even if you are right, Gordo, you are wrong.

Solar -
That's my problem with Palin whipping up those crowds, and now we see that the Secret Service reporting a spike in threats to Obama. So any attack that comes her way for her wardrobe seems pretty thin to me.

Jack -
How's the Ike repairs going ?

Anon----to see what is pure evil watch a movie called white dog----real life story-----an actor named godfry or something like that stars in it,,,that is pure evil to me and just as wrong headed as any example that u can come up with------some acts are more very much violent but not as evil to me???

like all you energy conversations with pogo and others,,,know some of it but not nearly enough. thanks

Anon,
Galveston got nailed. The cruise ships started sailing out again this week but there's nothing to see in town.
The historical "Strand" is down hard. I think it'll be 6 mos to a year to get back. TX A&M Galveston students will be back for next semester.
Houston for the most part is already back. Almost all debris gone...Quite a few blue roofs still....plenty of good deals on slightly damaged yachts...:)

xrepublican -----------------

"... failed to identify any evidence that would lead a rational person to believe that Senator and President Elect Obama was born anywhere other than Honolulu, Hawaii.

All the evidence is sealed -- SoetorObama will not release anything. He's holding back much more than BCs.
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When asked about his ducking the question GORDO replied, "I don't get into those areas on this blog."
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This is the post:

xr ---> "His "past is unknown in many areas." WTH does that mean ???"

G ---> I don't get into those areas on this blog. Am concentrating on name and citizenship issues here.
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I don't post here about this, for example: the "lost" Columbia years

RE;
The map that shows the blue shift, Montana caught my eye, one more cycle and that one goes.

Anon,
For Montana that means about a dozen people need to change their mind...:)

Norm Coleman's lead is dwindling. He still has VICTORY on the front of his campaign website.

Off to bed, it's past 10 pm and once again, I am a tired guy.

xoxoxoxo

Gotta run....one more flight this week to Mobile to see how bad this is going to be for those clients....see you all next week....

A couple of more weeks and we'll all need Romulan decoder rings to sort out GORDO's posts.

Anon,

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/honeymoon-in-washington.html#comment-170101

Very true. Example - interest rates for inter-bank loans is essentially zero, but banks are not lending to each other. (I don't mean they aren't lending at all, but that the loan activity is very low). While the low rate might be attractive to the borrower, it doesn't pay for the lender. I think this has something to do with the widespread lack of available credit, but someone who knows something about this stuff should try and explain it.

DoL's numbers it don't look pretty (bottom of page).

http://www.dol.gov/

God speed trader J.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/honeymoon-in-washington.html#comment-170111

Gordo, to paraphrase the words of Nick Carlton (William Hurt's character in "The Big Chill") "You're soooo obtuse."

Banks are lending to good credit.

It is a shift, No more easy bad loans which is the #1 catylist to our current problems.
In the long run the line will be straight and this will be a blimp on the chart.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/honeymoon-in-washington.html#comment-170053

Sturgeone

Don't you need another 15 in there instead of another 4?

Shrubian economics are entirely built on fake cheap credit instead of real cheap credit. Shrub's entire way of life is built on making things look right whether it is right is incidental. The Republican enablers went along with him in lock step. I wouldn't ask a Republican for their opinion on anything. goopers have earned a time out.

Brain,
Do you concede to Ping?

I have no trip plans to NYC at this time….. So need to claim in the next 4 years before he leaves office?

Pogo -
So much of what we've built in the economy is stuff like dog wash salons, tanning booth operations, pimp my truck shops, scrapbook stores, and a zillion other "foamy" businesses . Watch them blink out in the strip malls.

What's going to be a real shocker is GM going down, they're in Pelosi's office today with the other 2 giving Nancy the bad news.
That's why I say Dingell needs to be chipped, he was their butt boy for all those years, fighting the Cafe standards.

Craig asks -"Who knows how long it lasts, but starting with the spontaneous crowds cheering in the streets on Election Night, the nation's capital feels different right now"

It is all up to Pres. Elect Barack.....
Could be short lived...

Change, may become constant - Oh it already is

Anon – that business level you mentioned is the layer just beyond the Dot.com?

We need Meat and Taters! Build a bridge and pave a road… Better yet – lets build mass transit to at least get halfway to Europe’s infrastructure.

Space race to Hydrogen cars?

ET – I have rented a car only 2 times in over 25 trips over the pond !!

(OK – sometimes I have a driver pick us up for part of the trip) But for the most part all mass transit

ET, You are starting to sound like the Taliban, not wanting people, like GORDO, to exercise their freedom of speech, which last I knew, was encouraged by our host.

Ping -
Sometimes you sound like the salesman for Harlan and Wolf.

"Madam you have my personal guarantee, that this ship is unstinkable ... er a sinkable"

(There's a Stooges movie in the works)

Ping -
All that wonderful mass transit in Europe is done with high taxes, and government mandates.

I hope Obama keeps the promise to do things differently.
I don't know what that means but I know what we are doing now is not working -- so I'm up for change and trying new things.

I cannot decide what I would like to see as the first official act of office -- any thoughts?

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/honeymoon-in-washington.html#comment-169972

Solar
Thanks for the suggestion! I'm pretty content with things in my business at the moment,but I may at some point consider commercial buildings.I was doing some builder cleaning jobs but that's all gone now!! I'm kinda scared at the prospect of having employee's and all it entails..I make a very good living between my Gen.Motors. and investment income,which has diminished greatly like most everyone's ,but I'm not complaining in the least.I keep wondering if at some point I'll start to lose business because the service we offer is really a luxury,but most of my clients have a fixed income and are upper income earners so maybe that will keep me good?

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/honeymoon-in-washington.html#comment-170048
Hey Solar
This is a fine compliment to your wife!! I betcha she feels blessed to have you as her best friend for 30 years too!! Lovely as my Aussie friend Baz would say...

Just like French nuclear power. The government decreed it, and it worked pretty well until the higher temperatures started making them shut down in heat waves. It seems their discharge water fries aquatic life in heat waves . Oops!

KGC-
First thing ;

We all are issued life preservers that float in shit.

Anon - To My Point... If Barack is going to take more money at least do something good and build infrastucture.

If you want to put the job losses in perspective, consider that 50 years ago, every town of even moderate size all around the world had a building with no windows where some 200 women were employed in three shifts around the clock. Even the smallest town had at least one woman who turned off the equipment when she went to bed. At the time the population of the world was half of what it is now.

http://tinyurl.com/6pva3o

In your pocket or purse is an object about three inches long that put them all out of work

http://www.mobilewhack.com/images/lg_vx5200_cell_phone_1.jpg

As more and more labor intensive jobs disappear while the population needing labor intensive jobs to survive continues to grow, it could get ugly out there unless we start redesigning the whole meaning of "work".

Ping, cheap, easy credit, or lack thereof, is indeed a problem when the economy's apparent vigor is built on it but the lenders are holding onto their cash. I don't know about the blip thing - I'll leave that to economists and history to sort out.

I do know I heard that the unemployment claims last week (or maybe it was unemployment figures for October - traffic was bad and I was a little distracted) are the highest since 1969, the U.S. auto industry is looking worse than I've ever seen it, productivity is slipping, the dollar looks weak (which has its upside - I'm going to Mexico in a couple of weeks), manufacturing is dismal, and so on and so forth. My 401(k) is bleeding and I can't decide whether to shift more of it into cash for a while to see whether the market is going to go up or down or into bonds or do nothing - and I have access to people who supposedly understand this stuff but who don't know what to advise me - none of them predicted this, so why would I listen to them now? Maybe I'll buy gold, but it's lost 25% since Jan, so what to do? All I can say is I hope you are right.

And it won't be up to just Obama to keep the mood light in DC - a quick filibuster or two could turn the mood sour very quickly.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/honeymoon-in-washington.html#comment-170140

Hamburger Marys? got one up there?
Good food, fun Crowd
Just No Smoking...

Or Ruth Chris

Well, enough of this love - g'night.

pogo-------------

What documents has SoetorObama released to the public? You mean altered COLB images on web sites? You mean a fake COLB to his pals at Annenberg FactCheck? Nothing has been released.
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I went to the Chicago Tribune Link. Could an article be more pro - SoetorObama? I don't think so.

"A persistent rumor circulated by opponents of Barack Obama in recent weeks questions the authenticity of his birth certificate from Hawaii, despite the fact that the Obama campaign debunked the rumor in June."

That is NOT correct. It is a LIE. Therefore, the entire article is suspect.
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He refuses to make BCs and other documents public. Besides birth place, there are citizenship issues because of Indonesia and Kenya.

The cover-up continues.

Statement out from Sen. Reid ...

Today Senator Lieberman and I had the first of what I expect to be several conversations. No decisions have been made. While I understand that Senator Lieberman has voted with Democrats a majority of the time, his comments and actions have raised serious concerns among many in our caucus. I expect there to be additional discussions in the days to come, and Senator Lieberman and I will speak to our caucus in two weeks to discuss further steps

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Looks like Lieberman will be slow roasted.
"You want fries with that ?"

Pogo – anyone that tries to give me advice today – I usually run…
Balance sheets need to get in order - one more reporting cycle

Long run the Fundamentals will bring balance – lower steel- lower auto manf cost, lower price – Micro / Macro Economic theory is still valid

You never know a quick filibuster may be needed depending on which Obama shows up with Nancy, Harry, Chris and Barney already to crank it up…

Brain,
I you come visit your nephew - I buy.... dessert

Ping
the problem with the American cars is not the cost of steel -it's building the wrong car and refusing to acknowledge it when others tried to help them build the right car --they lobbied against it. I have no sympathy for industries that refuse to change with the times. The American car industry for the most part had its collective head up its butt. How much retraining and pension guarantee will the proposed bailout buy instead? Why prop up buggy whip manufacturers --I think paying the workers directly is a better idea. Let the workers decide their own futures.

Jamie -
Excellent point about "work". I didn't open the link, until phone company popped in my head.

Ping -
We'll have to beat off Sean Hannity screamin' about "Free Markets", but he's still in the bathroom crying.

Like 1994 when talk radio drove the agenda, and swept in Newt's contract on America.

Obama has millions of supporters, and he can zap them in a second.
Don't think for a min. he won't pull the trigger either. That's why he picked Rahm Emanuel.
He'll cut deals, but he's got the hammer. All this jibberish about no mandate is just another ring wing circle jerk.

GORDO,
The answer is that there is no reason Senator Obama should make his birth certificate available to you. You have never said why he should. You, Gordo, don't have a reason why he should. We know that you don't, because several of us have asked for one, and you repeatedly failed to answer.

You have never provided a cause for Obama to act on your request. To him, and the rest of us, you're just a bystander with a bizarre thought in your head, but not an atom of evidence that there is anything untoward. For practical purposes, you are merely a gawker, and Senator Obama's birth certificate is no more your business than is pogo's or my birth certificates.

Iow, if you can't give a legitimate reason to ask for the document, you will never get that document, 'cuz it's really none of your business, and the Senator doesn't owe you a thing.

Until Obama's birth certificate becomes your business, so that you do have a legitimate reason to request the document, you cannot expect satisfaction from the Senator. However, if you really think the matter is important, you can still go to HI - as I have written to you several times already - and petition to examine the document under the FOIA, and satisfy yourself that you have been barking up exactly the wrong tree.

Otherwise, if you don't think this matter is important enough to go to Hawaii for, please stop bleating about it.

I think we're going to see Obama playing 3 dimensional chess , while the Republicans sit at their checker board.

"If Volokh is correct about that - and if he's not, show me the money - even if you are right, Gordo, you are wrong."

I explained that to Gordo about a month ago, Pogo -- there's no talking to him.

Republicans have nothing. No one cares about them. If they keep up their current behavior they will be a third party in four years and probably controlled by the Christian Right.

Hannity and others did no good for the election of McCain – they all contributed to Barack success with the BS – and non substantive arguments – the distraction of limit resources from the issues that needed to come out. Folly all folly

I wish Barack success as that means good for all….

Also 1994 talk radio had a much bigger grip then today. If they bring in the fairness act, this will show the true bad color, and then make sure it is inclusive of all Media – cable, the web…,

"Palin isn't the brightest penny in the roll, but for a moment I don't believe she didn't know Africa is a continent. "

I think what we are seeing is a bunch of Rupub a-holes trying to shift blame. I noticed that they never related what was actually said.

Why can't they just admit the truth: George Bush and Obama's smart campaign cost them the election.

Oh, plus the fact that McCain is obviously getting senile....

Mandate – shamdate – does not matter- no big win with 52% when you out spend by one of the biggest factors ever, have the best campaign on the ground in history, against the party that is fighting a losing battle with the current President and a political party that is imploding… with the MSM entertainers with tingles up there legs……

Give it up – Barack did win – or McCain lost – but in any case Barack did not blow it out with a Mandate.

Regardless - Barack now has the mantle, does he make a 2nd term will be up to him. Whichever Him Shows up?

Tough going is ahead – Let’s see how far the Righteous wind keeps his sails full following his words just words…

I will support good policy on his part – Incentives for those that contribute innovation and a safety net for those in need.

Like I said Build the individual to be self sufficient – no need to chase the ice truck, no single point of failure.

So do you buy that Anon – Got a special just for you !!

"That's my problem with Palin whipping up those crowds, and now we see that the Secret Service reporting a spike in threats to Obama. "

Anon -- are you a political newbie? Is this the first time you remember hearing Republicans calling Democrats socialists, commies, not "real" Americans? Holy crap, have you been asleep since 1980?

"I cannot decide what I would like to see as the first official act of office -- any thoughts?"

Closing Gitmo, KGC. It would send the best message possible.

The Rep Party is now shambles on the ground, A cycle - lets see what rises out of the ash..

Ironic - that the Phenoix rode it into the ground...

Patsi - He Opens Cuba, signs one document that removes travel restrictions

Good thought, Ping. Close Girmo, open Cuba.

Jamie - you must have heard my conversation with my niece the other day!!!

She bought a couple of these pen-like computers - haven't seen them so can't imagine them - for Christmas presents. Apparently, you can record a prof's lecture, plug the thing into your computer, and email the entire lecture to friends who didn't feel like making it to class.

I've probably got all that out of whack, but I'm slowly coming to the conclusion that one day the only movement we humans will make is to have fun - sports,dancing,etc. I honestly believe the human personality is going to change as we cease to understand the meaning of the word work.

Maybe Palin's tears were because she didn't get to give her concession speech she had written. Also heard today that she refused to campaign with some repubs she didn't agree with - like a pro-choice candidate. She might make it as an Alaskan rep but seems to me she's just not palatable enough to get national -just knocked on wood.

Ping,

---did u see my list of taxes, that was for u to see,,,it created a little fuss but if u did not

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/hey-world-were-sorry.html#comment-169877

xrepublican ------------------

"The answer is that there is no reason Senator Obama should make his birth certificate available to you."

It's not just me. Are you aware of all the lawsuits about this subject? There are more questions than "was he born in Kenya". Did he become a citizen of Indonesia? If so, does he still possess Indonesian citizenship? Is he still a citizen of Kenya (from his father)? Has he been using an illegal name (BHO) since his teens? Has his legal name been Barry Soetoro for 40+ years?

We need to see this:

Certified copies of Obama’s Application and Admission forms for Occidental College, Columbia University and Harvard Law School

He refuses to make these documents public. Why? What nationality did he list? Indonesian? Kenyan?

He is hiding the TRUTH from the American people.

Solar -I like it.. How about the KMA tax?.. LOL

Ms Ping is calling me and lil ms ping to dinner..

Back later

I like closing Gitmo and opening Cuba --nice symmetry.

Now that the election is out of the way, we can start thinking about serious things. What will Michelle wear for the Innaugural balls?

"we can start thinking about serious things. What will Michelle wear for the Innaugural balls?"

ROFL, Jamie -- shoot me now. All the talk about her dress on election night has made me suicidal.

Who are the women being mentioned for Obama's cabinet?

Democrats should have kept those gingrich/frist rules that prevented members of the insignificant party from authoring bills. If we were to tuck Pelosi, Hoyer, and Ried out of the way for awhile, we could re-instate those rules. I can see no fruitful reason to allow muckcain, liebermuck, or banure to author anything through the end of this millennium.

You may say that if we deny these poor mammonist birds the ability to make bills, they will not be able to earn a living and feather their nests in the manner to which they have long been accustomed. To which I must reply, "Let them eat crow."

By the way, don't know if anyone has mentioned it, but Craig was great on C-Span today....

Bethy---u did again----u keep getting my attention when u say something like this

I'm slowly coming to the conclusion that one day the only movement we humans will make is to have fun - sports,dancing,etc. I honestly believe the human personality is going to change as we cease to understand the meaning of the word work.

i have at least 10-15 tapes on evolution from the science channel and others,,,,Carl Sagan, walter cronkite, and afew more.we will be living in the future as long as the bible elders(900-1000 years) and more,,,it is the part of evolution that has started already with plastic replacement for important body parts (hearts etc.) in that future that y see, we will definitly be more robotic and not do the hard work, we will go anywhere in the world for a virtual vacation that u will enjoy, as if u were actually there,,,oh to have my head frozen just to see and understand the future....i would sell my soul for this, if i believed that there is a sole, im going to pull a few of them out soon and get a few more names of these scientist that makes, String Theory, black holes, universes, so exiting to anticipate the future, while understanding the past is a matter of the truth in education,,,,the future is where it's at ( a little 60's there?)

Funny stuff- Poll on CNN.com asks first actions of Barack? one option Cut Taxes.. all of the others also conservative options... How Funny CNN - where you been?

Not so Funny
DOW suffers one of the worst post election losses in history

http://money.cnn.com/2008/11/06/markets/markets_newyork/index.htm?postversion=2008110615

Posted by: GORDO | November 6, 2008 5:53 PM :
"It's not just me."

It doesn't matter if it is not just you, personally. Even if it is you, collectively, you haven't an atom of evidence that there is anything untoward. Not having evidence means there is no case, y'know. Do you understand that ?

Are you aware of all the lawsuits about this subject?"

I know that judges keep throwing your suits out because they don't meet the requirements of legitimate lawsuits. The technical term is 'insufficient', as in 'unprofessional.' Perhaps, if you were to hire a literate attorney. Ever think of that ?

"There are more questions than "was he born in Kenya".

There is no reason to believe he was born anywhere other than Hawaii.

"He is hiding the TRUTH from the American people."

NONSENSE. HE IS IGNORING YOU. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.

If it is not important enough for you to go to Hawaii, it is not important enough for anyone to pay attention to you.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/honeymoon-in-washington.html#comment-170151

KGC
I worked for Gen.Motors for 23yrs,since I was 18.I really agree with your comment.I worked at the Truck and Bus plant in Flint,Michigan.The handwriting has been on the wall regarding building smaller cars vs. larger cars and trucks for years,alas profits on larger cars and cheap gas kept sales booming!! If GM,Ford and Chrysler go bankrupt,I feel for people like myself whose pension and medical Insurance contracts are broken and gone..I don't expect the government to bail us out though...I rolled with the punches for years and knew what I was getting into working for GM and I will roll again...I feel for the older people who can't....

"If GM,Ford and Chrysler go bankrupt,I feel for people like myself whose pension and medical Insurance contracts are broken and gone."

And there is the real problem.

Solar -

Methuslah lived 900 years, Methuslah lived 900 years,
But who calls that livin' if no gal will give ine to no man
who is 900 year??????

tonyb39
It sucks and the people who should be compensated are not.
I have a friend who works for Sonoma County. He worked for the county entirely for the retirement package which included healthcare ..after 10 years. He is getting ready to retire and they are trying to weasel out of the promise..not just for him but all the county retirees. What's the point of a contract if you can unilaterally get out of it? If that's how it works, why not just promise everything and just say nevermind when payment time comes.

bethy-what about Sean Connery? I swear that man gets better as he gets older.

Solar - I forgot to add that I absolutely will sue SOMEBODY if I live any longer than I can think. I do not want to see the future - I'm sure many would be fascinated by it but I'm sure to my 20 century it will be ugly, concrete, glass, and steel.

Tony - your post proves my contention for years that investors aren't the only ones who take risks. Mor and more, people take risks when they decide to work at one particular job. They invest their years and energy
which are two items that can never be replaced, unlike money. Somebody who speaks for employees has to make this point. If you work for 20 years at a job after college, you are 41 or 42, and had better hope that company or job will be well run for a lot more time.

xrepublican ---------------

SoetorObama is using the legal system to keep his "hidden" past a secret. The proof that he has something to hide is the fact that he is hiding ALL documents that could impact on his eligibility to be POTUS. Does he, at this moment in time, possess Indonesian citizenship? Kenyan citizenship? Both?

They don't just hand out another person's BC to anyone who asks. Andy Martin will be returning to HI -- he's trying to get the BC.

Gordo -- the damned birth certificate HAS BEEN EXAMINED. It is legit. GIVE IT UP.

.. Is there some corollary of Godwin's Law to the effect that the first person to fling a gratuitous Klu Klux Klan reference loses? ...

Rosie - you have a valid point there, but when he hits
900, I don't even want to take a peek!lol

KGC - I know about the Sonoma County plan for retirees. I've been gone for 2 years and each year something is changed. What happens -they say- is that the money to fund their promises is never budgeted. I could cry salty tears for them.......

I agree about contracts - apparently there isn't a contract that can't be broken. Another item to put on the list of big changes that need to take place.

Mine starts with
#1. Get rid of electoral college.
#2. No public money to be paid for any election
does not have secret ballots.

Any body care to add to the list?????

Patsi --------------

It has not been examined by anyone who matters - Annenberg FactCheck's examination was a fraud. They claimed to have looked at a COLB, not a BC. SoetorObama refuses to release all certified BCs for a reason. The info will not match that on the web COLB.

"What happens -they say- is that the money to fund their promises is never budgeted........"

That is just crap. And the same for the companies that do it too. In the past, the money for pensions etc was in separate audited trust account. This new accounting is not working out.
I don't get how you can sign a contract saying this the deal and then do nothing to honor it.

From Conan O'Brien:

"According to exit polls, 70% of bi-sexuals say they voted for Barack Obama. That's interesting, huh? Of course when pressed, 100% of bi-sexuals said "I could go either way." -Conan O'Brien

"All the major networks declared Barack Obama the winner at 11 last night, except for MSNBC, which declared Obama the winner six months ago." - Conan O'Brien

My Mom went to Curves today and some woman asked her what the hell was Michelle Obama wearing the other night?

Video of Obama caught in a major lie. Watch this!

http://www.nbc.com/Late_Night_with_Conan_O'Brien/video/clips/conans-negative-obama-ad-11508/813021/

Next year's Joe the Plumber...

http://practicallyperfectpatsi.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/takingacrackatcasting.jpg

Bethy
-- are u talking to me--or one of the other me's,( i am more than one person remember :-) if u r talking to the present me,,i understand about not wanting to be around if u can't be self sufficient, if u r talking to the adventurist me and willing to go all the way to next planet where there will be a new type of us looking down at what used to be me,,,huh ?---oh never mind i just confused all of my me's :-))))

1. How do YOU know "he is using the legal system to keep 'hidden' past a secret" ?

2. How do YOU know there is any secret ?

3. The 'proof' you allege is not a proof. It is merely YOUR unsupported assertion.
a. It could just be that he is ignoring you because the assertions are baseless and risible. Or,
b. that he finds the way you asked to be offensive. I know I would, were I he. Or,
c. it could be that he knew you when you were both rivals in little league bucketball, and he still despises you. Or,
d. he has important things to accomplish, and doing your bidding isn't one of them.
e. the 4 above are only a tiny selection of all the possible alternative explanations for the phenomenon.

From a myriad of possible explanations you picked out just one, and then claimed it was your proof.

4. You do not present any reason why he should not ignore you.

5. He does not have either Indonesian or Kenyan citizenship. You have no evidence that he is, which is why, I suppose you keep asking to see that evidence.
Anyway, Kenyan law does not provide for dual citizenship for adults.

6. No one who works or lurks here has any of the alleged information that you desire.

7. It serves no good purpose to keep posting to people who don't believe you, for evidence that does not exist, about situations that never occurred.

OSH

Great looking chocolates,

xrep,
forget Gordo go look at Old Sea Hags chocolates

http://newmoonmagick.net/enchantedchocolates.html

Now there is something worth talking about, peanut butter fudge dipped in dark chocolate. MMMMMMMMM

Jack

Keith may irritate him at times, but he is a whiz on cultural references that makes anyone who likes such things grin. Tonights was Gilbert and Sullivan

To sit in solemn silence in a dull, dark dock,
In a pestilential prison with a life-long lock
Awaiting the sensation of a short, sharp shock
From a cheap and chippy chopper on a big, black block.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/honeymoon-in-washington.html#comment-170194

Bethy,

What has gotten into you tonight. First quoting "It Aint Necessarily So" and then a couple of posts later "How Long Has This Been Going on"

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-c.cgi#comment-170184
Hey Patsi
Yes.It is a terrible problem.I know things are terrible back in Flint.My niece just lost her job,the restaurant she was working at closed suddenly. Ashley doesn't have any insurance but thankfully she can get unemployment.She told me she has to give up her apartment and move in with her aunt. I will send her Christmas money early and then some to pay for the moving costs.I feel so bad for Ashley and some in the younger generation,there's no lunch bucket jobs that pay a decent wage with medical...I wish I knew how to make things better for Ashley....I spoke with her on election day and she was so into Obama's change message,oh her hopes are so high,she's looking at him like he's the messiah!! I cautioned her ,telling her that Obama will be inheriting the biggest mess any President ever has and to be very patient...Ashley is under the impression things will change and change fast because Obama said so, I told her politicians say many things....On a brighter note,how was your granddaughters Halloween?I'm sure the costume Tracy made was wonderful..E-mail some photo's if you have any..I sure enjoyed all my kids in the neighborhood,but wished I wouldn't have had any Snicker bars left...Oh God,Ive been bad...Sugar Bad.. HA..

Jack, thank you very much, I'm honored truly. Got a lot banged out today but still don't have a shopping cart yet, hopefully by tomorrow night. Can't do much more, my eyes are giving out and my darling son has had about enough for today!

Posted by: GORDO | November 6, 2008 7:24 PM :
"It has not been examined by anyone who matters"

As if GORDO or berg matter. 100% Tonipandy

"On a brighter note,how was your granddaughters Halloween?I'm sure the costume Tracy made was wonderful..E-mail some photo's if you have any..I sure enjoyed all my kids in the neighborhood,but wished I wouldn't have had any Snicker bars left...Oh God,Ive been bad...Sugar Bad.. HA.."

I'll send you a bat ballerina photo! (Tracy made costumes for a lot of Maria's friends too -- including a Morton Salt girl....and a great parrot....fun.

Did you see the link above? Maria as Joe the Plumber? Ha.

http://practicallyperfectpatsi.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/takingacrackatcasting.jpg

Really sorry about your niece's job, Tony! Things are falling apart in this country.

No to Lugar or Kerry for Secy of State. I think Lugar has already said no.

OSH -- I love the chocolate shop! I will be ordering some!

xrepublican ----------------

The fact that he refuses to authorize the release of certified hardcopy BCs is proof that he is hiding something. Think about it - we are talking about a birth certificate! What's the big deal? People have to show BCs all the time for many reasons.

Wonder how using an illegal name (BHO) since his teens would complicate SoetorObama's situation?

Has he been lying about his birth country?

Has he been lying about his legal name?

Jack,

I am diabetic, so I will avoid the eye irritation.

Thanks for the excellent advice. I am becoming obsessed by GORDO's inability to learn through either discourse or satire.

Everyone else on this planet knows that the absence of any evidence means that the case will be thrown out. There is nothing more absent than evidence that Obama is not who he says he is.

I wonder if he had a head injury - perhaps the tertiary spirochete. GORDO reminds me of Mark Chapman, who killed that ex-Beatle fellow.

I'm so glad Patsi! I'm making chocolate american flag lollipops to give to vets this weekend , will add one to any TMer's who order. You all deserve one being the fine patriots you are. We might not all agree on how to run the country, but you all love it so.

xrepublican -------------

There is no evidence because all the evidence has been either sealed or "scrubbed". If SoetorObama has no damaging secrets in his "hidden" past, he would voluntarily release ALL documents. And prove he is Constitutionally eligible for POTUS. Guilty until proven innocent.

X-Rep -- come on, Gordo is a paranoid....simple as that. I seldom read him because I can't stop myself from responding to his BS. Gotta completely break the habit.

xrep,

When I hung out on usenet they called people like Gordo "netkooks". If I could block him I would. We all know what he has to say so the best thing is to just ignore him or anyone else(including me if I irritate you) It would be easier if the name is at the top. But I tend to not read long posts until I see who it is. A habit I developed when max was here last spring.

Jack

"A habit I developed when max was here last spring."

LOL@Jack

" conspiracy freaks "

Of course, we do have another self-professed paranoid in here....

Day One: Obama faces a Cold War threat and a warning from Israel
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1083501/Day-One-Obama-faces-Cold-War-threat-warning-Israel.html

Could someone make a new Youtube video for this song?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGtFSTL1Nbo

Alert - this post go a little long -bethy.

KFC - I do agree with you re the worthless promises
corporations and govt agencies make. The thing is that it is recognized and nothing is done about it.

I've been thinking that in order to get things fixed or changed a movement has to be started and led by someone who has energy and the right temperament.
Martin Luther King, of course, but Jesse Jackson and Rev Al as well. Those two just wouldn't shut up. There always seems to be enough Kenneth Lays to abuse people, but not enough fighters to go after them. I know I couldn't have done it.

Solar - My bil thinks it's fascinating to think of space colonies etc. I think it sounds horrible. I am made very uncomfortable by straight lines and right angles - they are cold to me and rigid, like steel and concrete and glass. Nature doesn't like straight lines, either. Who would want to cuddle with a skeleton?? give me someone rounded and soft and warm....

Sea - your menu is impossible to ignore. You'll be hearing from me.

Jamie - I use a lot of lyrics and titles in my inner conversations. "Porgy and Bess" is one of my favorites - maybe that should go on my list of to-do's - get the Gershwin Foundation to release the movie so people can see it again! Most of the lyrics I know are pretty old, tho

Jack - right on re Max's posts. I do try to warn from the berginning when I post one of my monsters, and will try to do it more consistently.

The trouble is knowing how long a post is going to be - HA!

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Hey bethy
What a visionary you are!! Smart!! I knew the risk ,It was worth it and I have been treated well by GM. It really wasn't a choice because it was are life.When I say life, its what I was raised to do.My whole family Grandfather,Father,Uncles,Aunts,Cousins worked for GM.Sorry its gone because its good honest work!! I wished my niece Ashley had it...I wished America had it..

OSH
I added your sight to my favorites! I will order soon from you!! I think your a delight!! I have enjoyed your post's and your candy looks wonderful.....

Good Night all. Have a great one.

Bethy

Post as long as you want I will scroll back up and read it. I do like the way you break it up, maakes it more readable for me.

Jack

Osha--will be ordering---it looks like all treats and no tricks, will pass on to all i know.

BETHY,,where is your sense of adventure??? how do u think we got this far,,,a few threads ago there was talk about the fruit fly, i think it was the fruit fly,,,but here is a lot of experiment that they do on them since one can actually see evolution in processes,. as fast as some farmers spray insecticides to kill them, they evolve and become immune to the chemicals----they also are injected with dna to develop extra legs, eyes, etc-----now don't read this if u don't want to------have bil read it-----when we are going to space travel to another planet, it is going to take so long that the passengers will be put to sleep and woken up in aabout 50 years after they board,,,,,the flight atendents, will not sleep at all, they will feed people while they sleep,, they will have 4 arms and no legs since they will not need them---all of this will be quite normal,,,,can u imagine what the people that colonize the new planet will look like---------I can't wait to go, lets go ok?

To those of you I have email addresses for I just sent a picture of Newsweek Senior Editor Jonathan Alter interviewing Jesse Jackson...my bother is the other man , smiling in the picture...he and his wife had VIP tix in Chicago Tuesday night.
My brother then had a few pleasant words with Jesse.

Jack ----if u didn't get my post a few treads back ---thanks for going out of your way about that bridge,,and thank your friend also------u see what reading Edgar Rice Borrouhs did to me---im already planning a trip to another planet. :-))

Osh sorry about he spelling of your name

Solar

That was no friend, that was the wife. ;-0

Your talk about bridge building the other day reminded me. Have you ever got your self certified as a minority small business by the SBA?

My wife worked marketing for a small local Architect firm and through them worked with several of the local big boys construction firms. If they are doing any federal work they have to have certain goals they need to meet with regards to small and small minority subs. So they often set up mentoring relationships with minority small businesses. Could be a way to grow.

Jack

Solar

if you need a good saw man when you start building in outer space give me a call. I haven't worked out of town in some time. The way my feet have been hurting zero G sound just right.

Jack

Jack, Solar

The concrete design made me think back to the times when lots of septic tanks were needed for postwar housing.

If a mixer returned from a construction job with some leftover concrete, they would dump it into a septic tank mold. I remember seeing ready-mix yards with dozens of septic tanks just waiting for a home.

There's so much opportunity for reliable subs, especially those with unique competencies, even when the economy is down.

Jack---i see it must be interesting for u and your wife to share the same passion of building-------No i have not certified as yet, been thinking about it now---------at the time that i started my construction biz---it was not seen as a good thing to get minority work, it was considered a handout----i build up my co, a little at a time,until i had a revolving clients of architects and others,,,always had work to carry me and my men thru, until now,,,but will probably go that route if the houses don't work out,,,there is more but that is the gist of it, thank you and your wife for asking

A new hope.

Free at last

Try again.

A new hope.

http://america-weeps.blogspot.com/2008/11/free-at-last-new-hope.html

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Patsi
Thanks for the link! Maria is beautiful! It brings back sweet memories of Ashley at that age...Nice..

Flatus----thank you---i did a few of them,,, and what they call a frensh drain septic for a few out in the boondocks clients,,,i haven't subed in quite a while but will until spring,,,,some of the g c's around here are buying houses,, and i got a cpl of calls to remodel if they get the financing,,,,,have my heaters ready to go---on thing positive about winter work and early spring is the availability of good workers,,,thanks

Jack i bet u use that imagination on the job---u can thank E R B for it ,, a good saw man is always a plus

Jamie - do you mean the actors didn't want to speak in the vernacular? Shame on them. I don't remember how they spoke their lines.

I do remember Clara singing Summertime in front of the water. I remember Crown singing that miraculous duet with Bess. I remember on the sound track vinyl lp that Sammy Davis jr couldn't be on it - it had to be Cab Calloway. I think more than anything I remember the ball bouncing in counter rhythm to another sound - a hammer maybe? - and Pearl Bailey singing
Strawberrrrrieees. Those sounds go through my brain all the time and it's frustrating to me that I can't duplicate the sounds.

My sisters and I have made Oh, Lord, I'm on my way
into our special language. I want to see that movie again and think it would be welcomed by young black kids with great joy, regardless of the lack of correct accent.

That show they allowed on PBS some years ago was a real drag. I've seen part of the movie with Simon Rattle, but was out somewhere and couldn't watch. I loved that stage set in the old movie.

Solar - I do not believe that it takes all kinds.....it is just that there ARE all kinds. Not all kinds are needed. However I do believe that your kind who see the future as an adventure are very necessary, so appreciate your attitude, and that of my bil.

I just know my strengths and weaknesses and accept myself. I may be boring to a lot of people, but not to myself! HA!

One of my strengths is that I'm a great great appreciator and so I appreciate you and all the folks here.

My god.

House just got lucky and walked into the office singing the Serenade fromStudent Prince.........................
Overhead the moon is beaming, white has blossoms on the vine............

My mother woke us up with that on Saturday mornings.
Another song I hear all the time.

I don't think that there is one woman on this blog that has ever posted that is boring,,,some are a little witchy from being on their brooms a little to long, but hey thats the sister hood of TM :-)) night

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/honeymoon-in-washington.html#comment-170130

I believe in free speech, but I also believe people should be responsible for what they say.

I'll wrap a towel around my head... :-)

"You want fries with that ?"

Posted by: Anon | November 6, 2008 4:56 PM

Anon, "you want fries with that?" was the official class theme of Evergreen State College's 1996 graduating class. LOL... That is when I got my second diploma -- Master of Public Administration. Proud moment, and I was the very first person to receive the diploma. Cynical theme? A bit. Our 1990 theme was something like "OUr diversity and unity is our strength"

One thing.. Ping and Jax... you guys are alright in my book. Your politics make me crazy, but you are decent gentlemen! There are some Republicans I like, and I even voted for two in Washington State election... so I am strong Democrat who sometimes crosses party lines.

Actually I love most of the people in this blog...We can be upset at comments, but we are pretty much congenial and friendly with one another.

I am late for work.

This MPA has to go sell cigarettes, beer, coffee, liquor, lotto tickets, et al and clean the pumps and sort garbage. Ah the glamour of being a business owner.

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Ex --- about my comments re: the cool people on the blog. GORDO is the exception that makes the rule. That said, let the guy spew. I like Renee's comment that she doesn't read his drivel anymore (which reduces the blog reading significantly... LOL).

Ah well... the sanitariums are closed now and the sanitariums 'R Us...

Peace out.

Tony, I need a house cleaner... Wanna come to Belgium? :)

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