Gobble, gobble....I've got a ham slow cooking in brown sugar, dijon and pineapples...but with just a few coming this year am REALLY slowing it down...just some appetizers, then the ham, potato salad and baked beans....
My daughter and her husband have a big turkey dinner at his parents' tonight -- so I figured we better go light here. My son couldn't get away from DC so it'll just be the daughter, SIL, grandbaby and my friend Joe Sun.
well, off to gut and skin the pumpkin fresh killed at dawn. those critters are getting wilier and wilier... the males are particularly hard to catch... and when you do sight 'em, it's a difficult shot with the ak-47 so as not to ruin the meat.
We'll have our Thanksgiving shindig tomorrow--today the rest of the local Ohlfahrt family is out volunteering. So, for today, Stinky has told me to vacuum the house; she says it's therapeutic. Guess it does get my blood pressure into the normal range.
Today for 'dinner' I think I'll have a bowl of raisin bran topped with a sliced banana. If that's not healthy, I don't know what is. Stinky will probably have some Korean leftovers along with a couple different styles of kimchi.
But, still, to all of those who frequent this area of peace and tranquility, I wish you exactly the kind of Thanksgiving that you remember from your childhood as being the best one ever.
And while I'm sitting here, maybe I'll start a letter to Autumn Kim.
Cornucopia
Saturday November 22, 2008
The cornucopia, literally 'horn of plenty,' adorns the Thanksgiving table thanks to Greek mythology. The horn may originally have belonged to a goat, but Zeus used to drink from it as a baby. The story of Zeus' childhood says that his mother, Rhea, sent him to a cave on the island of Crete for safe-keeping in order to prevent his father, Cronus, from swallowing him.
See Cannibalism in Greek Mythology
Sometimes it is said that a goat named Amalthea (various spellings) nursed the infant Zeus; sometimes that a nymph of the same name fostered Zeus and fed him on goat's milk. His nurse has also been named Adrasteia, which Timothy Gantz says may be another name for Nemesis, and Ida.
While an infant, Zeus did what other babies do -- cry. To cover up the noise and keep Cronus from finding out his wife's plot to protect her son, Amalthea asked the Kuretes or Korybantes to come to the cave where Zeus was hidden and make lots of noise by clashing their weapons.
There are various versions of the evolution of the cornucopia from a horn sitting on the head of the nurturing goat. One is that the goat tore it off herself to present it to Zeus; another that Zeus tore it off and gave it back to the Amalthea-goat promising her abundance; another, that it came from the head of Achelous, the river god, which the Naiads filled with fruit.
The cornucopia is most frequently associated with the goddess of the harvest, Demeter (Roman Ceres) -- as in the harvest song lyrics: "Ceres came with Plenty's Horn and showered wheat and golden corn" -- but is also associated with other gods, including the aspect of the Underworld god that is the god of wealth, Pluto, since the horn symbolizes abundance.
We are doing a turkey because for my wife that is thanksgiving, even though there are only us and my Fatherin law.
Traditionally I'm not bound to turkey. We didn't have turkey until I was older, as a turkey had to be bought at the store and we had beef or pork in the freezer.
So I would rather do prime rib but I getting ready to put a turkey in the oven.
We aren't doing many of the other heavy foods.
Just some roasted fall veggies, Youkon gold potatoes , carrots turnip sweet potatoes and acorn squash. all in the same dish with a light coating of butter.
and a salad with the last of the summer tomatoes.
For desert, pumpkin pie with out the crust, just the goodies. topped with lots of fluff.
No alchoholic beverages until we take the father-in-law home.
The nice thing about being an adult and controling your own life is you get to place the universe in proper order.
Pumpkin pie with the morning coffee.
Good morning all and happy Thanksgiving! All of your meals sound delicious.
Am a little behind, just made my pies-the kids wanted different ones. Other than the turkey and potatoes, we just might be eating pie. The rest of my family is down in Georgia at the river house doing lots of eating, drinking,laughing, wished I were there. My Dad has Alzheimers and I so wish I could be with him while he is still here with us. My mother is blind, but real feisty and tough as nails (she's an appalacian mountain girl) she hide her blindness for 5 years.
Patsi, your a good daughter of the South, I bet you make awesome sweet potatoes. Any chance of sharing your recipe?
"About the only true thing in the whole mythology is that these pitiful European strangers would not have survived their first several years in "New England" were it not for the aid of Wampanoag people. What Native people got in return for this help was genocide, theft of our lands, and never-ending repression. We are treated either as quaint relics from the past, or are, to most people, virtually invisible....
The myth of Thanksgiving, served up with dollops of European superiority and manifest destiny, just does not work for many people in this country. As Malcolm X once said about the African-American experience in America, "We did not land on Plymouth Rock. Plymouth Rock landed on us." Exactly."
[Mahtowin Munro (Lakota) and Moonanum James (Wampanoag) from link above]
Happy Thanksgiving to all...
I have much to be thankful for this year and T.M. is at the top of my list!! Craig thanks for all you do!!! T.M. people you bring me joy....Thanks...
Happy Thanksgiving to all here. Try not to strain a gut muscle with dinner today. I can't wait. I am thankful I don't have to cook today. All I had to do was make a chocolate yummy, a delicious dessert that I couldn't find a way to get one more calorie or fat gram into.
Also a late Happy Birthday to Craig.
I do have a couple of questions that are plaguing me. You guys do seem to know something about just about everything.
First: Who has all of our money? I have been listening to the experts for a while now but still haven't figured out where all the money we have all lost went. Someone must have found it. Is it just too complicated to explain? Is it in the pockets of all the CEOs?
Second question: How did Ann Coulter break her jaw? In my experience most broken jaws I have seen, I have seen quite a few, involved someone elses fist.
I'm thankful I'm not former Senator Phil Gramm . Noted UBS bank lobbyist and the man who would be Fed Chairman . May have a problem. ----
LUCERNE, Switzerland (Reuters) - Swiss bank UBS, at the center of a U.S. investigation into offshore services it provided to wealthy Americans, said on Thursday it had uncovered a "limited number" of tax fraud cases.
This man's wife sat on the Eron board. Phil Gramm is one of the architects of this pile of rubble, we call an economy. To be fair to Phil, lot's people on that project, but that's Phil Gramm's stamp on the bottom of the plans . We were sold the plans to the Emerald City, but we built Bartertown .
People wondering where the money went ? Phil's front door is a good place to start. Maybe some young Federal Prosecutor is serving " Sweet Subpoena Pie " to Phil this holiday season.
Turkey day stuffings
Since Plymouth, Thanksgiving Day has seen its share of controversy
By Brock N. Meeks
Chief Washington correspondent
MSNBC
updated 11:11 a.m. ET Nov. 23, 2004
WASHINGTON - Lobbying, intrigue, inflation and controversy, such are the historical ingredients in the recipe for Thanksgiving Day.
Most historical accounts of the nation’s first Thanksgiving put the date sometime in December of 1621 when the Pilgrims of New World America held a three-day harvest celebration. The elementary school textbook scene of Native Americans and Pilgrims sharing a banquet table, however, isn’t easily digested by everyone. The United American Indians of New England have, since 1970, held a “National Day of Mourning” on Thanksgiving Day in Plymouth, Mass., to highlight the plight of Native Americans dating from the arrival of the Mayflower.
Ok having posted this, I wish you all a Happy Thanksgiving. I will be celebrating with two other Americans and two Belgians on Saturday evening. I am making homemade American-style brownies and fresh cranberry sauce.
RAVEL -
Music to cross the Alps by.
You can see Hannibal's elephants struggling up the pass. the smell of sweat, and leather. And at the top, Italy lay before his feet, the Roman legions in the Po Valley in the distance . Their camp fires burning.
Jamie - nice meal! Got thirsty reading about all the bloody mary's going around, alas packy closed today. Have some brandy will try that in the sweet potatoes, thanks.
Rez I was educated on the issue at Evergreen. I understand the frustration but I am also of mixed mind with it. I think Thanksgiving is a holiday for all of us who are American. I think that had the white settlers treated the Natives fairly and honorably, this country would be in a far better place than it is. I hope sometime we will all find a true common humanity that unites all peoples.
I'm Otoe-Missouria and dear wife is Osage & Omaha... .
No wonder we voted O bama. lol
I just tried to link our tribal home page but it not up..(probably didn't pay the bill) but there's a wiki page with a little info. There's an external link (brokenClaw) on wiki that has tons on info, photos, etc if you're ambitious.:-)
There's a lot of water under the bridge and I'm not of mind to swim it today or probably ever here. I'm pretty pragmatic about it all. . . Happy turkey day to you and yours.
Happy Thanksgiving Day to all of ya'll! I hope everyone has a good and safe day. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvgZkm1xWPE
and always be thankful for what you have today!
Are you kidding? We were still hunter/gatherers when Cherokee were liviing in log houses and growing crops. That's why Choctaw tend to be a rather short people and Cherokee are tall.
"In an exclusive interview with WND today, Ogego was specifically asked whether Obama is a natural-born U.S. citizen.
"I don't know," he said with a tone of irritation. "You should ask your government. I know his father is Kenyan."
He continued with a rhetorical question: "Obama is an American, isn't he?"
On Nov. 6, only two days after the election, Detroit radio talk-show hosts Mike Clark, Trudi Daniels and Marc Fellhauer on WRIF's "Mike In The Morning" called the Embassy of Kenya in Washington, D.C., to speak with Ambassador Ogego.
The interview with the Kenyan ambassador was widely publicized after he called President-elect Barack Obama's Kenyan birthplace a "well-known" attraction:"
(Hear the Kenyan ambassador's interview with WRIF radio at link:)
Rezdog- thank you, couldn't find the brokenclaw link though, would love to see it. So are you in Oklahoma? My cousins are Cherokee but my aunt somehow ended up with the Navahos in Gallup, New Mexico which is where my uncle met her. My grandfather and uncle were out there building houses with the Navaho. I rode out to California once with this rip roaring asshole who wouldn't stop for anything but a restroom. Went all the way from the coast till I got to Gallup and absolutely insisted, really had to put up a fight. Just knew I had to stop there. Called my Mom that night and she told me about the family connection to Gallup. Lots of towns between here and there, know my ancestors were traveling with me that day.
We're in WA, moved up here 10+ years. Ive been on Rt 66/I40, OK-CA, too many times to remember. Gallup and most others are bypassed nowadays. (killed them) I have a ton of Navajo friends but it's a huge Nation. (needle in haystack) :-)
It was at the bottom (wiki page) under external links (genealogy). Check out the photo link, nice old pix of some relatives @1900 (Arkeketa = family name)
Just saw your request so this may arrive too late for you. The Sweet Hots are one of my inventions that you just go by taste.
Drain large can of yams
spread in single layer of buttered baking dish
Lightly salt
1/2 liquor and 1/2 pineapple juice to slightly short of covering yams
Sprinkle with pepper flakes
Evenly spread crumbled brown sugar over top
Top with pineapple slices
Cover and let sit for at least an hour (I sometimes make it up night before and then refrigerate)
Bake until heated through (pineapple slices browned on top.)
You can serve right from baking dish or drain most of liquid, remove pineapple and then whip with melted butter.
I thought I posted earlier wishing everyone a Happy Thanksgiving but apparently I can't find it...
Colorado Bob, it's very nice to see you on here again. I just read the Secret and I was wondering where you were and if we'd see you here again and lo and behold you're back...great to see you!
I'm almost done smoking my turkey...part of me wants to flower the wing and deep fry it to see how crunchy and tasty...lol
anyone, have a great day and bask in the love of your friends and families!!!
We had turkey in Toledo at daughter’s place. Her man, the pilot, got called to work Wednesday; he had to fly to Miami FL to fly a big shot rich person somewhere.
He missed Thanksgiving, so the bird was oven-roasted instead of deep fried. I prefer the old-style way anyway—I am tired of those damn deep fried turkeys.
We took both cars because my wife went a day early to bake and prepare stuff…I had to wait until Thursday because we have an older big black dog and they have 2 Weimaraners and we also have a Jack Russell…a lot of dogs for an overnight stay.
I love her Weimaraners…they are just great dogs! If I was a country gentleman with room to spare I would have a Weimaraner too.
I am home now and of course my wife is hitting the stores at 5 AM to grab some presents, so she stayed another night.
And dig this: Gas in Toledo is $1.51 a gallon!! I overfilled my tank at that price.
How’s this for timing? As I got to Toledo, “Alice’s Restaurant” by Arlo Guthrie came on the radio…I got to hear the whole thing before I got to the house.
I got to see the Lions get creamed by the Tennessee Titans but then the women took over the TV for “Survivor” and some Hallmark movie.
And I hope you gentle folk had a turkey or something else nice.
Just got home from my sister's house, and my one word description is noisy. One four year-old, one three year-old, and one two year-old, all boys, with three strong men to rassle with, and you can't get other than noise. Those boys screamed and laughed all night. The two year-old fell aside in his car seat as his mom was buckling him in.
Menu was turkey and taters with great gravy, white and wild rice pilaf, and green bean casserole - very plain.
I had made my two different apple pies yesterday, one of which is very labor intensive and there was pumpkin pie. No big whoop but very nice, and extremely hot - don't know how they did that but it was very very warm.
Champagne of course, and cheese tasting before dinner.
The best part was a cd of my mom playing the piano as we ate.
I hope you all have as much to be thankful for as I do.
Bethy and Dex -- sounds like you had a wonderful day. Same here. Food, family and friends. Smaller group than usual but a great day. My granddaughter and I watched the Tinkerbell movie, read Nemo and Dorie books and colored in the Tinkerbell and her Fairy Friends coloring book.
My friend Joe Sun told little Maria his favorite color was the rainbow, so she colored him a rainbow to take home.
well, I been trippin' thru youtube and Im zinging along from one to another, and this goofy friend of mine calls me up......he says, "Channel 3 QUICK!" click. So I put it on channel 3 and it's Barry Manilow doing "Islands in the stream".
LOL........... about all the Barry Manilow chat lately.............
Saw Craig's panel discussion in Charlottesville on C-Span .
Kellyanne Conway - She was lamenting the poor state of the McCain & G.O.P. media effort, and reminded everyone that it was Obama who found " Joe the Plumber " , not John McCain.
"Razors and eggs for breakfast, it's kind of like the payment for all your efforts," says Joe Hymer, a state fish biologist and longtime digger from Camas. "It just doesn't get much better than that."
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Yes it's true, he's talking about , Clam and eggs.
German CO2 emissions fall below Kyoto requirements
Berlin - Germany has cut its greenhouse gas emissions to below levels required under the Kyoto Protocol on climate change, the government in Berlin announced on Friday. Europe's biggest economy's CO2 emissions, which are blamed for causing global warming, last year came in at 22.4 per cent below Kyoto's base years of 1990 and 1995, the environment ministry said in a statement. http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/243842,german-co2-emissions-fall-below-kyoto-requirements.html
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I had a night filled with a bad headache, chills and nausea and I wasn't even here! LOL! We had Thanksgiving at the home one of my brother-in-law's sisters near Lansing yesterday. It went fine, although I guess for some reason her husband was mad at her yesterday. Why be angry on a holiday? Anyway, my brother-in-law's Dad is having a big catered party tonight. All kinds of hors d'oeuvres for the food. Should be good. I hope everyone had a good Thanksgiving yesterday.
Had a lot to eat-----everything was wonderful-----i was with the children more than with the adults---brought back a few hand drawn piccaso's to put by desk-----I never give card's out, for Christmas or any holiday,,or birthday,,,i just write a little notes----or cut and paste some drawing and put a note on it-----so i really like the coloring((page cut outs) that i get from them all
This weed end all the nieces and nephews will come in from all over the country to be together with each other for a cpl of days ----they do this once a year----they all grew up together and are good friends---we just go see them for a little while and then get out of the way----they all bring their kid along---the ones that we know----and the ones that we don't -----you can see a little of my mom and dad's face in all of them---it is great!!
Solar -- one of the jobs I had as a teenager in my mother's kitchen was to pour some salt in the butt of the turkey before my mom began to stuff it. Talking to the blog's drive-by dumpster is something akin to that task....
"I don't mean you shouldn't communicate with the drive by (it often can't be helped) -- just picture pouring salt up a turkey's butt when you do."
I know-----by his reaction to my post that is exactly what i did today----but it does me no good to talk to him,,since i don't have heeeem in the square circle too toss him around a leetle bit-- no-----i ate so much yesterday that im still full---we brought some left overs for later---it' hard to talk espaniol with your fingers---Ha it hard for me to talk in any language with my fingers-----i have a nephew that teaches ---and told me that he could teach me correct written grammer-he is so busy that i will not bother him at this time---maybe thru emails?
C B---and Patsi----------i don't envy people with $,,,, or larger homes,,or anything----except people that r well traveled...looks like u both are-----so is Sturg---maybe most of the people here at TM----great sites----estes park ---thanks
Read your post yesterday about ---Thanks Giving----great attitude ---i try to do the same,,,although it's hard sometimes----water under the bridge and being pragmatic about is cool----it is what it is anyway----but i would like for schools to teach real history-----think that it would go a long way to stop some hatred due to ignorance---thanks
I had a friend who worked for the Colorado Highway Dept. out of Alamosa. He ran the rotary plow on Wolf Creek Pass, and Monarch when it needed it. But mainly Wolf Creek.
You haven't lived until you've seen the Colorado Highway Dept. moving snow on Wolf Creek with that rotary plow. A giant orange monster, with a 300 foot rooster tail of snow being blasted off the mountain.
NGC 186 Sat, Nov 29
2:00 AM Prehistoric Predators: Bear-----The short faced bear
lived 10,000 years ago,, and was killed off by the latest ice age----our ancestors had their hands full---ay
Oh my God
I cooked to much and ate a fair bit!! It was all good,but after I cooked ,well I was over it.I enjoyed the family and friends though.I also sent it all home with them except some turkey and deviled eggs....Oh and one piece of pumpkin pie....Enough...I guess I will start on the tree this weekend..A glass of Chardonnay and tree trimming,oh and some Christmas music on the I-pod,I think I'll start with Donna Summer's Christmas..."Lovely" as my Aussie friend Baz would say...
Dream car. Only 200 made and each has it's own particular serial number with the 200th one off the line kept for the museum. Riding in one was a dream since people just stopped and stared
I just found this book online. It is called "Behind the scenes, or, Thirty Years a Slave, and Four Years in the White House" by Elizabeth Keckley. She was a Black slave who was freed and become a close confidant to former First Lady Mary Todd Lincoln. I am so enjoying this book, not only for the historical significance, but also for the excellent writing by Ms. Keckley
Before Old 99 got widened and multi laned into Highway 5 going over the grapevine in central california, there wre several truck escape places both on the downside heading for Bakersfield going north or on the downside heading for Los Angeles going south
Hi everyone. Tomorrow we are having an American style Thanksgiving Dinner at my ex's home with his American husband, a woman friend of mine that was a colleague and her husband (American) and a Belgian with an American boyfriend who works at a military base. It will be the most Americans I've been around in one place in Europe. :)
I will eat carefully... I am making the cranberry sauce. My American brownies have been taken off the menu because there are 3 pies... Pumpkin, Pecan and Blueberry.
ET
By the way, weird stuff at a Long Island WalMart store. Can you IMAGINE a temporary worker getting trampled to death by crazed shoppers impatient to get in and get the bargains??? What has the world come to???
any chance some of the recent pirate show was for diversionary purposes? tactic to keep the indian navy busy while the terroists crept in by sea.
"...an Indian navy spokesman confirmed that the terrorists entered Mumbai without detection by taking a sea route. Starting from a base in Gujarat to the north of Mumbai, they made their way to the Gateway of India at Mumbai's southern tip and another landing point on the peninsula 14 nautical miles away; they killed one boatman in the process." http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20081128/wl_time/08599186266100
"...Asked whether there can be any connection between the pirates and the attacks in Mumbai, Vice Admiral Sunil K Damle, Flag Officer Commanding-in-Chief, Southern Naval Command, said such a thing cannot be ruled out.
"I cannot say but I will not rule it out. I cannot say whether there is connection or not. All I am saying is that we very strongly suspect such a thing can happen," he told reporters on board the INS Tir.
"It is a fact that our action against the Somali pirates in the recent past has got the Indian Navy into focus particularly in that area", he said, adding this also brought in a danger...Indian Navy being targetted by these people also in addition to the terrorists," he said.
"These bad elements unfortunately have a fair amount of illegal money at their disposal. Even if Somali pirates were not taking direct action against us, there is every possibility of them pumping in the money into such organisations which are capable of taking terrorist action against us", he said."
The man I dated who owned it, would lend it out for a political parade care so it was equipped with a microphone. Nothing quite like waiting to be picked up from shopping and having someone drive up in that broadcasting, "Need a ride little girl?". lol
Tony ---good to see you------glad u r having a good time---have to do some extra exercises to work of all that we eat huh-----
I used to do a lot of partying in Wisconsin---when the freddy prinze comedy was on-----we played a lot of sports at a place called Furlans Dug out Inn----people from many diff states when there for fun----we even had winter softball----as many as 100 people there all the time------no one ever knew my real name------they just called me Chico----great times, and never any trouble---near twin lakes wis----fell in love there once-------well once every week end---hahaha
The last stand of the 300 Spartans-----greatly out numbered by the Persian forces--they fought to the death,hey fought long enough to let the Spartan army escape.
Sorry folks, but I'm drivin' around southern Colorado today.
This is the view east and a little north from Alamosa, the image is Mt. Blanca in the Sangre' de Cristos. This time of the year, the Sangre' de Cristos begin the cycle that they get their name from. When a southern low comes across Albuquerque in the winter, this valley, and those mountains, all turn white. The the winter sunset over the San Juans to the west, make everything pink. Different shades of pink every sunset all through the winter. They didn't just pull a name out of the hat when they named them The Blood of Christ .
This wetland, is at 8,000 ft. , that mountain is 14,345 feet.
I promise you it is the biggest mountain you've never heard of. It is absolutely huge. Just to the right is Ft. Garland, Kit Carson served out of Ft. Garland.
"u like the way Freddy P ---I was 6' 1" at the time and they said that i looked like him-I still look like him----Dead! hah"
In 1970 I got a free hair cut in Salzburg because the people at the salon thought I was Shirley Maclaine (in town for a film thing of some sort)....my husband reminded me that her current movie was Irma La Douce.....
" In 1970 I got a free hair cut in Salzburg because the people at the salon thought I was Shirley Maclaine (in town for a film thing of some sort)....my husband reminded me that her current movie was Irma La Douce".....
I had u looking like Angie Dickinson------sorta like Bonnie and clyde ------u rob banks-----or box car bertha----yeah thats the ticket-----u moved around a lot------just changed your wrestling name
Well, Solar -- I'm just impressed as hell that you looked like Freddie Prinze. Back in the day, and in Europe, my ex was mistaken for Omar Sharif....At our daughter's wedding I told him he's lucky those weren't the terrorist times...they'd have never allowed him on a plane.
Well Pats--that was back in the day---now i probably look like a cross between telly savales ,,,anthony quine , and dracula,,,,,you liked-----tall dark and handsome-------2 out 3 aint bad---i remember u saying that about you husband-
Yep -- the ex was dark and handsome. Not so tall -- maybe 5'10...and he was a cool man -- played flamenco guitar, chemist, well-read, asshole....oops...not really, though he sometimes tried...as did I....and we're still friends after being divorced thirty years....or maybe because it's been that long....
Sounds like I would have liked him----worked, and played hard
Patsi---in between,,our pleasent little trip to the past----i was watching a video that is call origins-----on pbs---Astro Physicist--named
Neil DeGrasse Tyson----i will keep an eye out for the next time that it is shown------shows the origns of energy, stars, the chemicals that make us humans-----it is what u felt when your freind died ---or saw
I have a picture, drawing, in my documents that shows the inflation,, bang, the spread of the universe------the cosmic of evolution---how can i put it on the t m thread ----like some have drawings and such?? thanks
Hello Folks, Been at an antique show all day and am heating up the leftovers right now. Love coming home to a feast! If my feets don't fail me, will try making the first batch of candy canes tonight.
Solar- Haven't read up thread yet, but wanted to answer your question- time is relative so yes, after that fighter flight kicks in, time does slow down. Was that the correct answer?
OSH---hello ---glad tha u have been posting---like your garden talks with Whisky-----and yes ----that is the correct answer----same thing for when we get older---the world moves a little slower for us
Patsi Are your books still available to read? Your ex by the ways sounds like he was quite handsome. Just got icebreaked by a man on eharmony- he's 61, so he has that in his favor, but his profile says he hasn't read a book in years. Not trying to be a snob but what kind of person hasn't read a book in years?!
Jamie------thank you for the pbs link------don't know why i did not link it---yes they are spectacular-----if i wanted to put a picture or drawing on the thread, how would i go about it,,,,thanks ahead of time
OSH -- yes -- he was very good looking back then. But his attraction (at first) was intelligence and sense of humor. His greatest trait right now (IMO) is that he loves being a grandfather....sure some of the books are available...I'll find a link....
The only way I know that you can show your picture here is to scan it onto your computer and then put it onto a site you can link for us to go to. You can scan a picture onto your computer (using your printer, as long as it also scans) and save it in order to upload it to a site of your choice.
There's a site called blog spot (or Blogger) where you can open an account and have your own blog site there if you want. It instructs you how to set up your own site (and is free). It seems fairly easy to follow, as it gives detailed instructions.
Hey Solar, Yeah, I like to have a chat with Jack, sometimes it feels like he is an old friend. I too have been enjoying your universe and Jesus stuff and chats with Chloe and Patsi.. Am pagan so am not too into the Jesus stuff , but appreciate the history and your unbelievably vast knowledge!! Aside from the negative energy here at times, I've just been real busy getting ready for the holidays. Less fudge, more chocolates- in the summer I would sit down for 10 minutes while waiting to stir the batch!
Patsi,
That's a lot of books you've written! I didn't realize there were so many.
It looks as though "The Garth Factor" doesn't come out until May of '09. That sounds like a really interesting read. Did you work with Garth on that one?
Patsi,Thank you, I've read portions of your book "Coming Home", remember when it came out and it was great! Will for sure put your books on my wish list on amazon for my winter reading.
OSH-- No I specifically told Garth I was doing it on my own, and would not show it to him until finished.
I take a lot of shots at the business end of music in the book, and did not want the reprocussions aimed at him. And I'll take some shots because of what I have to say about his own record label's treatment of him, I promise you...oh well...
(I wrote all label-generated info from 1990-on about Garth's music, though, and therefore had all the interviews and quotes from each album and event. Also had access to all archives. The book is about his career -- not a "personal" memoir...)
One thing is I know you're in touch with energy, but that is more just magick, not exclusive to paganism, which is just a belief in more than 1 god. I believe in the duality of god(s) although I work more with godesses, I noticed Bear is into the Secret, that is based on witchcraft and Buddhism. Always kinda cracked me up all the Oprah fans getting into it, oblivious to the fact that they were practicing very basic witchcraft-just not called that. The first page acknowledges this by naming a Coven, but you wouldn't know it if you weren't familiar with the coven.
Oh, was it OSH who asked about my sweet potato recipes? I fear that my daughter is the one who always makes a sweet potato dish...here's what she made this time:
Yeah that was me Patsi. I went ahead with a recipe I got from southernfood.com ? which was reeally good, pecans on top of course and I took a cue from Jamie and added bourbon.
Back from a party/birthday party at my brother-in-law's Dad's condo. It was the 2nd party he's had for his upcoming 80th birthday. Party #3 will be in January. LOL! We had hors doeuvres for the meal: Hot wings, egg rolls, pigs in a blanket, beef wellington, and barbeque meatballs as well as a cheese and meat tray, a veggie tray, a few other small things and a yellow cake with white frosting. Good stuff!
I'm not sure what to say to all of that, because I know so little about it. You're right, I do believe in energy. But I'm not sure why you called it magic.
What I really most deeply believe in is nature, and all it entails. And I like to think of it as 'Mother Nature'. To me nature is all there is, it's everything.
Any experience with it Patsi? It seems kind of corny to me and I guess I really don't care to share much info with absolutely complete strangers. I don't meet many men here, live across the st. from the harbor- but those coming in on boats seem to be all drunkards, or married. There are enough single men on the island, but they just ne'er do wells. I have a big house overlooking the harbor and the packy so I am of course a prime target for them. Guess it's like that in most tourist areas.
OSH-----man --oh-- man, do i get myself in trouble with you ladies-------I called Rosie an older muchacha,,I had my pal Chloe running a house of ill dance hall once (bordello) ,,i did not mean to say that u r old----i meant that as we all age-at a certain point time will slow down a little for us.....the Jesus stuff, is taken from books and videos programs that i have taped for years----i am a religious non believer,,,that wants the truth out there for people to see---------but when this started i thought i would just post bits and pieces,, the Universe stuff the same ----but it looks like i forget some details, so have to go thru them
again----which is fun for me cos ---it looks like i missed some things, XR is really up on all of this Jesus stuff too -and it has been a lot of fun arguing with him about it--
Chole----Hello---thanks for the link-----thanks for your support -as ---thanks for being you---nature and all it entails-----excellent ----
Jamie ---it registered on the site that you provided ---ill try to do something with it later------I have a wonderful picture of the Universe that shows and explains the inflation of it from the start,,,shows how many years in between each phase of evolution that the universe went thru before there were stars,,,and after---and it expanding,,it gives one a pretty good sense of it all,, i use it as my pc background sometimes,thank you
Because magick exists and it is just the bending, manipulating of energy. Witchcraft is an earth based spirituality. Sounds like you're on your way girl!
No, no Solar, no worries, I didn't take it that way at all. I have no idea what you consider old, or old enough for time to slow, just wondering. I knew that you weren't a practicing anymore either. I follow your posts!
Ha, far from it sea. I'm already exactly where I want to be.:)
Solar, Those things you just said to me are among the nicest things anyone has ever said to me. Thank you. (and you don't need to work with that teacher relative of yours that you were talking about, you express yourself beautifully) :)
"Because magick exists and it is just the bending, manipulating of energy. Witchcraft is an earth based spirituality. Sounds like you're on your way girl!"
you can't leave an opening like that around----it' s too tempting,,,,but ill refrain -----in enough trouble----but Patsi---does have the latest broom model ---and it aint for sweeping
Well Sea, I'm 49 too and I must say I don't like it ONE BIT !! I was always the "youngest" in the crowd I was with, probably because my birthday is in August and end August was the cut off for going to kindergarten if you were already 5 years old. Those in September on had to wait a year.
Anyway, I am accepting that I am getting old and realize I am truly middle-aged but I still feel like the goofy young guy I was. One thing that helps... I love humor and we have a fun working relationship in my shop... my employees are my colleagues more than my subordinates (except if I lose my temper, but they understand that passes). We have mostly a good time in a high stress business and we joke and act silly while still maintaining a friendly and warm atmosphere.
ET- have though more about age this year, although it might be more the passing of time and watching my parents grow old that freaks me out more than anything. Although, not real thrilled with the extra 8 pounds I gained this year and can't seem to drop it like i used to!
" I have a big house overlooking the harbor and the packy so I am of course a prime target for them. "
Ha, OSH -- I have a friend who says too many are looking for a "nurse or a purse."
No, I don't know anything about eHarmony except what was posted about the same sex deal. There was a time I'd have said, "Stay Away!" from those sorts of meet-ups. But I have a friend in NY who met her fabulous third husband through an ad in Village Voice, and another friend here in TN who met the love of her life online. So who knows?
If I were in the market, I think I'd keep all options open.
But at my age I am more in the Janis Ian mode when she sang Pass the Tea and Sympathy (for the good old days long gone...) cool song and I bet it's on YouTube...if so, I'll post!
"Fare thee well
Trade in all our words for tea and sympathy
Wonder why we tried, for things that could never be
Play our hearts lament, like an unrehearsed symphony
Not intend
To leave this castle full of empty rooms
Our love the captive in the tower never rescued
And all the victory songs
Seem to be playing out of tune
But it's not the way
That it has to be
Don't trade our love for tea and sympathy
'Cause it's not the way
That it has to be
You begin
And all your words fall to the floor and break like china cups
And the waitress grabs a broom and tries to sweep them up
I reach for my tea and slowly drink in"
Here's another beautiful and melancholy song IMO also dealing with the passage of time from my girl Stevie ( who is also a witch) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhNrrrCCTdA
OSH, I feel your pain ! You know, when I was a little kid, my Mom had the Roy Clark 8-Track tape with the song "Yesterday When I Was Young"... It mean't NOTHING to me.. Now, it is so significant in my life!
Off to my sister's for another turkey meal. I left everything at her house - HA! But I did get kudos for how fast I cleaned her kitchen last night - well, not all cleaned but quite decent. I keep telling them the first thing to do is stack the dinner dishes and put all the sterling in one pot and let it soak - then there's all sorts of space to put the rest of it. But do they listen? You know the answer is NO.
And then the young women, my niece's, take over and I refuse to tell people any more to get out of the way and I'll do it. They're what my bil calls Young Mothers on the March - don't argue with them. they're such darling darling dolls!
Patsi------down load image from 9:56 pm link ----set as back drop ----enlarge to make it fir screen-----it too small -go into properties, click desktop,,,on position open it , and click stretch, click apply, then ok ,,it will fill the screen---you could always change it it you don't like it
"What fun, and I'm glad to see Obama has brought Powers on back on board, the woman has a top notch mind when it comes to foreign policy."
======================
"The problem for those who favor a strong US-Israel relationship is that Power seems obsessed with Israel, and in a negative way. ... And it is clear that her approach to addressing the Israeli-Palestinian conflict would be for the US to behave in a more "even handed" fashion, which of course means withdrawing US support for Israel, and instead applying more pressure on Israel for concessions.
Power appears to support slashing, if not eliminating, military aid to our ally (surrounded by 300 million people who wish to destroy her) and giving it to the Palestinians, whose charters (whether the Hamas or Fatah version) advocate the destruction of Israel.
Power also showed her animus toward Israel in another instance, appearing to argue with the New York Times for more negative coverage of Israel in the paper."
it was 66 and 67......I was inna house band at a beach pavillion......I opened (and since I play piano, I played with) most of these at the time "B" list acts: The Hully Gully Olympics, Lee Dorsey, Huey "Piano" Smith and the clowns, The Tams, The Dixiecups, Maurice Williams and the Zodiacs, Fats Domino, Gary "US" Bonds, Bobby Moore and the Rhythmn Aces, and 8 or 9 different sets of "Original Drifters.....................
Hmm....I'm back up -- couldn't get back to sleep after letting the dog out....but am glad to read aboit Doug Clark and the Hotnuts! I saw them back in 66 or 67 -- they were the big news around campus for quite a while....
Some very cool music last night and this am....Stevie Nicks, Bobby Darin, the Cowbells, Dixie Cups...love that David Gilmour guitar...and Ernie Kovaks channeling Devo-moves to top it off! (Or did Devo channel Ernie-moves....)
Interesting that Janis Ian could write such powerful songs about time passing while still a very young woman...but then, it was when I was very young that I fell in love with songs like "Tea and Sympathy." Music makes it go 'round...no doubt....
patd -- Mozart! Yes, yes...of course, few prodigies have been found in fields like writing, painting, sculpture -- different set of skills and brain cells than those involving mathematics and music. (There's that young girl, Akiane (?) who was sent from God to paint...and is amazingly accomplished....but few others.)
I had an interesting talk with a young woman who cut my hair at oneof those inexpensive "no appointment" places. She was a tremendous hair cutter -- and my hair is hard to cut...thick, coarse, and full of cowlicks....but she took great time and excruciating pains to be precise...in our conversation she mentioned that the only classes she really liked in school were math and science. She then said that since she'd been very young, she could do two things well -- math problems and hair cutting. And I thought, of course, that's where this precision comes from.
The only brand of canned sweet potatoes I use is Bruce's; they are consistently good.
Take three cans of potatoes, drain all except 1-1/2 cups of the liquid. Put the potatoes and liquid in a suitable casserole. Dump in 1-1/2 cups of light brown sugar, 1/2 stick of unsalted butter, and about 1/4 cup of good quality clover honey. Season with freshly ground black pepper and a sprinkling of sea salt. Sometimes, I will grind a little nutmeg and sprinkle on top.
Bake in 325-deg oven for a couple of hours (uncovered) until the remaining liquid is reduced and the sugar and honey and butter have infused the potatoes. The potatoes may be gently turned as necessary.
Towards the end of the baking, taste test the potatoes and correct the seasoning to your taste.
The same recipe can be prepared in the microwave with a medium setting. Cook for about 1/2 an hour checking periodically.
My 10:13. Should have specified three _large_ cans of potatoes. Looking at the spelling of potatoes, I had a thought of how close Dan Quayle was to being right.
i'll admit it, this year's traditional Trail Mix Turkey Silde Show has been a fraud. Earlier, that was the bird i cooked last year, and yes, we end with store-bought sandwich meat. Book writing got in the way this year, so had to go with deli turkey and a sliced ham from the internet. Next year i promise a legitimate show.
That blog you linked on synesthesia (sensory crossover) was very interesting. I took this quote from it with me:
"Lend your ears to music, open your eyes to painting, and . . . stop thinking! Just ask yourself whether the work has enabled you to 'walk about' into a hitherto unknown world. If the answer is yes, what more do you want?"
........................
Patsi, I read what you said about math, music and precision hair haircutting all being similar thought processes, and agree with you (once I thought about it a little). Makes sense.
"-i think that he call his pc's (6 of them) by name and pinned a tail on em---on a good night (when he tokes up) they probably even bark- keep up the good work late at night---it keeps him up, and away from the serious talks in the mornings"
Very cool picture of the expanding universe---there is the energy that you and Patsi talk about----if you want to right click on it, and set up as background---it will enlarge and you can see at the very start of it all------Quantum fluctuations, and inflation----the first time that i saw this is exactly how i felt-----stared at it for a little while, and said ---cool, forgot to say very but i even felt it-----back and forth today as usual ---
Tomorrow the History channel will have a totally new series on called Universe for 2008 starting at 12 pm central---gonna tape it and watch later on-----see u later
No body around today----have on some smooth jazz to keep me company.
You know that arch that noah built, and then put 2 of every kind of animal (it's Actually 7-in the bible ) if he didn't let in the two flies --one male -one female ----a lot of people would not have died of disease -----was that planned? shoulda swatted em going in.
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"Why are we so gullible?" [from last thread]
craig, as tonto would say, what do you mean "we" white man? wanted to say this yesterday, but it being your purported b-day, i didn't wish to be rude.
btw, public nudity! and on thanksgiving? you could have at least strategically placed a parsley sprig or two on the old bird.
Posted by: patd | November 27, 2008 6:24 AM
Gobble, gobble....I've got a ham slow cooking in brown sugar, dijon and pineapples...but with just a few coming this year am REALLY slowing it down...just some appetizers, then the ham, potato salad and baked beans....
My daughter and her husband have a big turkey dinner at his parents' tonight -- so I figured we better go light here. My son couldn't get away from DC so it'll just be the daughter, SIL, grandbaby and my friend Joe Sun.
I may even use paper plates.....
Posted by: Patsi
| November 27, 2008 6:59 AM
"I may even use paper plates..."
patsi, more in keeping with the original thanksgiving picture...pilgrims and indians... than norman rockwell
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic-art/590003/91965/The-First-Thanksgiving-reproduction-of-an-oil-painting-by-JLG
Posted by: patd | November 27, 2008 7:23 AM
well, off to gut and skin the pumpkin fresh killed at dawn. those critters are getting wilier and wilier... the males are particularly hard to catch... and when you do sight 'em, it's a difficult shot with the ak-47 so as not to ruin the meat.
Posted by: patd | November 27, 2008 7:34 AM
An ounce of pumpkin is worth a pound of vine.......
proclaimers and old softie shoes.......sehr gut........mucho danke......
Posted by: sturgeone | November 27, 2008 7:45 AM
thanksgiving in india
http://www.welt.de/english-news/article2789200/Explosions-rock-besieged-Oberoi-Hotel.html
Posted by: patd | November 27, 2008 7:47 AM
We'll have our Thanksgiving shindig tomorrow--today the rest of the local Ohlfahrt family is out volunteering. So, for today, Stinky has told me to vacuum the house; she says it's therapeutic. Guess it does get my blood pressure into the normal range.
Today for 'dinner' I think I'll have a bowl of raisin bran topped with a sliced banana. If that's not healthy, I don't know what is. Stinky will probably have some Korean leftovers along with a couple different styles of kimchi.
But, still, to all of those who frequent this area of peace and tranquility, I wish you exactly the kind of Thanksgiving that you remember from your childhood as being the best one ever.
And while I'm sitting here, maybe I'll start a letter to Autumn Kim.
Posted by: Flatus
| November 27, 2008 7:59 AM
thanksgiving at the old homeplace:
http://boingboing.net/uke/Images/georgeprice.gif
Posted by: sturgeone | November 27, 2008 8:07 AM
Great question on C-Span -- a woman said, "Wall Street's broke, the auto industry is broke, the American people are broke -- where's all the money?"
Posted by: Patsi
| November 27, 2008 8:09 AM
Damn, sturge -- that cartoon is GREAT! I'd frame it if it could be printed....
Posted by: Patsi
| November 27, 2008 8:11 AM
patsi........George Price......new yorker cartoonist......he's got a million of 'em......
Posted by: sturgeone | November 27, 2008 8:12 AM
uno moss:
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/cartoonamerica/images/ca026-03305v.jpg
Posted by: sturgeone | November 27, 2008 8:18 AM
Happy Thanksgiving
This year I only have three so it is just a somewhat expanded roast chicken dinner.
My daughter is doing a big dinner down south, so I will be cooking by phone and email
Posted by: Jamie
| November 27, 2008 8:32 AM
ROFL!
Posted by: Patsi
| November 27, 2008 8:33 AM
Cornucopia
Saturday November 22, 2008
The cornucopia, literally 'horn of plenty,' adorns the Thanksgiving table thanks to Greek mythology. The horn may originally have belonged to a goat, but Zeus used to drink from it as a baby. The story of Zeus' childhood says that his mother, Rhea, sent him to a cave on the island of Crete for safe-keeping in order to prevent his father, Cronus, from swallowing him.
See Cannibalism in Greek Mythology
Sometimes it is said that a goat named Amalthea (various spellings) nursed the infant Zeus; sometimes that a nymph of the same name fostered Zeus and fed him on goat's milk. His nurse has also been named Adrasteia, which Timothy Gantz says may be another name for Nemesis, and Ida.
While an infant, Zeus did what other babies do -- cry. To cover up the noise and keep Cronus from finding out his wife's plot to protect her son, Amalthea asked the Kuretes or Korybantes to come to the cave where Zeus was hidden and make lots of noise by clashing their weapons.
There are various versions of the evolution of the cornucopia from a horn sitting on the head of the nurturing goat. One is that the goat tore it off herself to present it to Zeus; another that Zeus tore it off and gave it back to the Amalthea-goat promising her abundance; another, that it came from the head of Achelous, the river god, which the Naiads filled with fruit.
The cornucopia is most frequently associated with the goddess of the harvest, Demeter (Roman Ceres) -- as in the harvest song lyrics: "Ceres came with Plenty's Horn and showered wheat and golden corn" -- but is also associated with other gods, including the aspect of the Underworld god that is the god of wealth, Pluto, since the horn symbolizes abundance.
from N.S. Gill's ancient history blog/letter
Posted by: sturgeone | November 27, 2008 8:39 AM
pictures of the seven hills of rome:
http://ancienthistory.about.com/od/cityofrome/ss/7hillsofRome_3.htm
Posted by: sturgeone | November 27, 2008 8:46 AM
N.S. Gill's Ancient/Classical history blog.....nice site.
http://ancienthistory.about.com/b/
Posted by: sturgeone | November 27, 2008 8:49 AM
Jamie
The chicken sounds good.
We are doing a turkey because for my wife that is thanksgiving, even though there are only us and my Fatherin law.
Traditionally I'm not bound to turkey. We didn't have turkey until I was older, as a turkey had to be bought at the store and we had beef or pork in the freezer.
So I would rather do prime rib but I getting ready to put a turkey in the oven.
We aren't doing many of the other heavy foods.
Just some roasted fall veggies, Youkon gold potatoes , carrots turnip sweet potatoes and acorn squash. all in the same dish with a light coating of butter.
and a salad with the last of the summer tomatoes.
For desert, pumpkin pie with out the crust, just the goodies. topped with lots of fluff.
No alchoholic beverages until we take the father-in-law home.
I'd better get the turkey in the oven.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 27, 2008 8:52 AM
"so I will be cooking by phone and email"
Ha! Jamie -- I've been on both sides of that fence....
Posted by: Patsi
| November 27, 2008 8:55 AM
HAPPY THANKSGIVING EVERYONE!
eat lots of whatever you're eating....... drink lots of whatever you're drinking.....
and don't forget to bring along a larger size of pants......
I am thankful for all that I have in my life..... including this little place where I can contemplate the universe and listen to some great music.....
take care!
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| November 27, 2008 9:00 AM
The nice thing about being an adult and controling your own life is you get to place the universe in proper order.
Pumpkin pie with the morning coffee.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 27, 2008 9:20 AM
jack, with or without the crust and fluff?
Posted by: patd | November 27, 2008 9:25 AM
for those of you who didn't have the joy of traveling
with a car full of children.
Over The River And Through The Wood
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtsn8zfwQT0
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 27, 2008 9:26 AM
turkey in the straw 1942
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsnZxfkkoKQ&feature=related
Posted by: patd | November 27, 2008 9:33 AM
No crust, a big dollup of fluff.
To make the crustless pie , use your favorite pumpkin pie filling.
spray a glass pie dish with pam
pour in the pie filling and bake as usual.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 27, 2008 9:39 AM
I realise that once you remove the crust it is probably no longer pie and has another name but in my ignorance........................
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 27, 2008 9:42 AM
Good morning all and happy Thanksgiving! All of your meals sound delicious.
Am a little behind, just made my pies-the kids wanted different ones. Other than the turkey and potatoes, we just might be eating pie. The rest of my family is down in Georgia at the river house doing lots of eating, drinking,laughing, wished I were there. My Dad has Alzheimers and I so wish I could be with him while he is still here with us. My mother is blind, but real feisty and tough as nails (she's an appalacian mountain girl) she hide her blindness for 5 years.
Patsi, your a good daughter of the South, I bet you make awesome sweet potatoes. Any chance of sharing your recipe?
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 27, 2008 9:43 AM
lest we forget
http://bermudaradical.blogspot.com/2008/11/thanksgiving-national-day-of-mourning.html
Posted by: patd | November 27, 2008 9:43 AM
oops, 4 pies. chocolate pecan, pumpkin, apple and tollhouse
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 27, 2008 9:45 AM
Happy Thanksgiving all
lots of greens here ..as well as the traditional turkey
but first the Thanksgiving brunch with lots of bloody marys
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker
| November 27, 2008 9:48 AM
"About the only true thing in the whole mythology is that these pitiful European strangers would not have survived their first several years in "New England" were it not for the aid of Wampanoag people. What Native people got in return for this help was genocide, theft of our lands, and never-ending repression. We are treated either as quaint relics from the past, or are, to most people, virtually invisible....
The myth of Thanksgiving, served up with dollops of European superiority and manifest destiny, just does not work for many people in this country. As Malcolm X once said about the African-American experience in America, "We did not land on Plymouth Rock. Plymouth Rock landed on us." Exactly."
[Mahtowin Munro (Lakota) and Moonanum James (Wampanoag) from link above]
Posted by: patd | November 27, 2008 9:51 AM
Just wanted to stop by & wish all a Happy Thanksgiving.
While I have not had much to offer to the discussion
recently, still do check in to see that all is going
pretty well.
Enjoy your day everyone.
Posted by: Coreen | November 27, 2008 9:55 AM
Pie -
I'm reminded of Homer Simpson.
MMMM PIIIEEE ............. AAAHHHHGGGG .
Sweet potato pie.
Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 27, 2008 10:05 AM
Pie could be the apex of the Western World.
Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 27, 2008 10:08 AM
http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/rma/lowres/rman1266l.jpg
pie in the sky
Posted by: sturgeone | November 27, 2008 10:14 AM
Happy Thanksgiving to all...
I have much to be thankful for this year and T.M. is at the top of my list!! Craig thanks for all you do!!! T.M. people you bring me joy....Thanks...
Posted by: tonyb39
| November 27, 2008 10:16 AM
http://www.growinghope.net/uploaded_images/pie1_gray-793120.jpg
pie lovers unite
Posted by: sturgeone | November 27, 2008 10:21 AM
thankful i dont live in mumbai
mumbai yaieeee m'load
mumbai yaieee.......
Posted by: sturgeone | November 27, 2008 10:24 AM
Happy Thanksgiving to all here. Try not to strain a gut muscle with dinner today. I can't wait. I am thankful I don't have to cook today. All I had to do was make a chocolate yummy, a delicious dessert that I couldn't find a way to get one more calorie or fat gram into.
Also a late Happy Birthday to Craig.
I do have a couple of questions that are plaguing me. You guys do seem to know something about just about everything.
First: Who has all of our money? I have been listening to the experts for a while now but still haven't figured out where all the money we have all lost went. Someone must have found it. Is it just too complicated to explain? Is it in the pockets of all the CEOs?
Second question: How did Ann Coulter break her jaw? In my experience most broken jaws I have seen, I have seen quite a few, involved someone elses fist.
Enjoy the day.
Carol
Posted by: ct | November 27, 2008 10:30 AM
custard's last stand
http://www.gallagherstravels.com/destinations/shenandoah/images/image004.jpg
Posted by: sturgeone | November 27, 2008 10:45 AM
I'm thankful I'm not former Senator Phil Gramm . Noted UBS bank lobbyist and the man who would be Fed Chairman . May have a problem. ----
LUCERNE, Switzerland (Reuters) - Swiss bank UBS, at the center of a U.S. investigation into offshore services it provided to wealthy Americans, said on Thursday it had uncovered a "limited number" of tax fraud cases.
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE4AQ2K520081127
This man's wife sat on the Eron board. Phil Gramm is one of the architects of this pile of rubble, we call an economy. To be fair to Phil, lot's people on that project, but that's Phil Gramm's stamp on the bottom of the plans . We were sold the plans to the Emerald City, but we built Bartertown .
People wondering where the money went ? Phil's front door is a good place to start. Maybe some young Federal Prosecutor is serving " Sweet Subpoena Pie " to Phil this holiday season.
Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 27, 2008 10:53 AM
Turkey day stuffings
Since Plymouth, Thanksgiving Day has seen its share of controversy
By Brock N. Meeks
Chief Washington correspondent
MSNBC
updated 11:11 a.m. ET Nov. 23, 2004
WASHINGTON - Lobbying, intrigue, inflation and controversy, such are the historical ingredients in the recipe for Thanksgiving Day.
Most historical accounts of the nation’s first Thanksgiving put the date sometime in December of 1621 when the Pilgrims of New World America held a three-day harvest celebration. The elementary school textbook scene of Native Americans and Pilgrims sharing a banquet table, however, isn’t easily digested by everyone. The United American Indians of New England have, since 1970, held a “National Day of Mourning” on Thanksgiving Day in Plymouth, Mass., to highlight the plight of Native Americans dating from the arrival of the Mayflower.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6560439/
Ok having posted this, I wish you all a Happy Thanksgiving. I will be celebrating with two other Americans and two Belgians on Saturday evening. I am making homemade American-style brownies and fresh cranberry sauce.
Cheers
Posted by: EuroTom
| November 27, 2008 11:18 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/holiday-open-thread.html#comment-177514
Jack
Pumpkin Custard
Posted by: Jamie
| November 27, 2008 11:18 AM
Well all the prep work is done for the menu
Stuffed Chicken
Baked Stuffing
Sweet and Hot Yams
Green Beans Almondine
Mashed Potatoes w/gravy
Waldorf Salad
Pumpkin Pies w/whipped cream
Now I kick back until time to turn on the heat. Someone pass me a bloody mary.
Posted by: Jamie
| November 27, 2008 11:24 AM
my Mother is probably cooking right now... I think I will call her
Posted by: EuroTom
| November 27, 2008 11:24 AM
Jamie
Do you like yours spicy?
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker
| November 27, 2008 11:33 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/holiday-open-thread.html#comment-177527
CT
Goofed on Craig's b'day. It isn't until July.
Reason for Coulter's jaw given as she fell down the stairs. I don't know if she had any help doing that.
Posted by: Jamie
| November 27, 2008 11:36 AM
The Sting was on this morning, next time you see it, listen for Lt. Snyder's shoe squeak. Charles Durning's shoe squeaks the whole movie.
Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 27, 2008 11:37 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/holiday-open-thread.html#comment-177535
KGC
Men, books, or sweet potatoes? :-)
I use Brandy, Pepper Flakes, brown sugar, and pineapple juice in the yams.
Posted by: Jamie
| November 27, 2008 11:38 AM
Bloody Mary!
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker
| November 27, 2008 11:41 AM
Bloody Marys should cause some steam
Posted by: Jamie
| November 27, 2008 11:41 AM
I got this one stuck in my head -
But it's perfect for Thanksgiving. And the performance is wonderful . Everyone brought their "A" game this night .
BOLERO-RAVEL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-4J5j74VPw
Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 27, 2008 11:52 AM
What you can buy with that deflated portfolio of stocks.
Holiday Shopping with Deflated Stocks
http://www.cnbc.com/id/27888369
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 27, 2008 12:10 PM
Morning all . .
"Pumpkin pie with the morning coffee." same here. Good one
I sharing Turkey and dressing with another Indian and having cocktails with some others later. :-)
ET, . . I was there in Plymouth, Mass. in 1970. We had a blast "protesting". lol
patd. . .Great link, covers all the bases and serves up a good reminder.
Posted by: Rezdog
| November 27, 2008 12:16 PM
RAVEL -
Music to cross the Alps by.
You can see Hannibal's elephants struggling up the pass. the smell of sweat, and leather. And at the top, Italy lay before his feet, the Roman legions in the Po Valley in the distance . Their camp fires burning.
Make a good sandal movie.
" The Carthagians Have Crossed the Alps ! "
Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 27, 2008 12:19 PM
We were talking about Governor Lamm yesterday. It seems the Japanese PM just made the same mistake of telling the truth
http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-world-asia/20081127/AS.Japan.Gaffe.Prone.Leader/
Posted by: Jamie
| November 27, 2008 12:22 PM
Jamie - nice meal! Got thirsty reading about all the bloody mary's going around, alas packy closed today. Have some brandy will try that in the sweet potatoes, thanks.
Sturge- thanks for the laughs!
Rezdog, - May I ask what tribe you belong to?
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 27, 2008 12:48 PM
Rez I was educated on the issue at Evergreen. I understand the frustration but I am also of mixed mind with it. I think Thanksgiving is a holiday for all of us who are American. I think that had the white settlers treated the Natives fairly and honorably, this country would be in a far better place than it is. I hope sometime we will all find a true common humanity that unites all peoples.
Posted by: EuroTom
| November 27, 2008 1:16 PM
osh,
I'm Otoe-Missouria and dear wife is Osage & Omaha... .
No wonder we voted O bama. lol
I just tried to link our tribal home page but it not up..(probably didn't pay the bill) but there's a wiki page with a little info. There's an external link (brokenClaw) on wiki that has tons on info, photos, etc if you're ambitious.:-)
www.omtribe.org (broken)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otoe_tribe
Posted by: Rezdog
| November 27, 2008 1:29 PM
ET,
There's a lot of water under the bridge and I'm not of mind to swim it today or probably ever here. I'm pretty pragmatic about it all. . . Happy turkey day to you and yours.
Posted by: Rezdog
| November 27, 2008 1:34 PM
Happy Thanksgiving Day to all of ya'll! I hope everyone has a good and safe day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvgZkm1xWPE
and always be thankful for what you have today!
Posted by: rosiethecat
| November 27, 2008 1:42 PM
I'm Choctaw.
Posted by: rosiethecat
| November 27, 2008 1:43 PM
Special shout out to ET-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuluCH6KNpg
Thanks for the Elf thing, that was too cute!
Posted by: rosiethecat
| November 27, 2008 1:53 PM
Are you kidding? We were still hunter/gatherers when Cherokee were liviing in log houses and growing crops. That's why Choctaw tend to be a rather short people and Cherokee are tall.
Posted by: rosiethecat
| November 27, 2008 1:56 PM
Ya'll have a good day!
Posted by: rosiethecat
| November 27, 2008 1:57 PM
Kenya: 'I don't know' if Obama born in U.S
"In an exclusive interview with WND today, Ogego was specifically asked whether Obama is a natural-born U.S. citizen.
"I don't know," he said with a tone of irritation. "You should ask your government. I know his father is Kenyan."
He continued with a rhetorical question: "Obama is an American, isn't he?"
On Nov. 6, only two days after the election, Detroit radio talk-show hosts Mike Clark, Trudi Daniels and Marc Fellhauer on WRIF's "Mike In The Morning" called the Embassy of Kenya in Washington, D.C., to speak with Ambassador Ogego.
The interview with the Kenyan ambassador was widely publicized after he called President-elect Barack Obama's Kenyan birthplace a "well-known" attraction:"
(Hear the Kenyan ambassador's interview with WRIF radio at link:)
http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=82060
Posted by: GORDO | November 27, 2008 2:00 PM
Rezdog- thank you, couldn't find the brokenclaw link though, would love to see it. So are you in Oklahoma? My cousins are Cherokee but my aunt somehow ended up with the Navahos in Gallup, New Mexico which is where my uncle met her. My grandfather and uncle were out there building houses with the Navaho. I rode out to California once with this rip roaring asshole who wouldn't stop for anything but a restroom. Went all the way from the coast till I got to Gallup and absolutely insisted, really had to put up a fight. Just knew I had to stop there. Called my Mom that night and she told me about the family connection to Gallup. Lots of towns between here and there, know my ancestors were traveling with me that day.
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 27, 2008 2:06 PM
Brain,. . . Amazing :-)
osh,
We're in WA, moved up here 10+ years. Ive been on Rt 66/I40, OK-CA, too many times to remember. Gallup and most others are bypassed nowadays. (killed them) I have a ton of Navajo friends but it's a huge Nation. (needle in haystack) :-)
It was at the bottom (wiki page) under external links (genealogy). Check out the photo link, nice old pix of some relatives @1900 (Arkeketa = family name)
http://native.brokenclaw.net/wp/om-contents
Posted by: Rezdog
| November 27, 2008 2:21 PM
Dogs
Just saw your request so this may arrive too late for you. The Sweet Hots are one of my inventions that you just go by taste.
Drain large can of yams
spread in single layer of buttered baking dish
Lightly salt
1/2 liquor and 1/2 pineapple juice to slightly short of covering yams
Sprinkle with pepper flakes
Evenly spread crumbled brown sugar over top
Top with pineapple slices
Cover and let sit for at least an hour (I sometimes make it up night before and then refrigerate)
Bake until heated through (pineapple slices browned on top.)
You can serve right from baking dish or drain most of liquid, remove pineapple and then whip with melted butter.
Posted by: Jamie
| November 27, 2008 3:25 PM
Hey everyone,
I thought I posted earlier wishing everyone a Happy Thanksgiving but apparently I can't find it...
Colorado Bob, it's very nice to see you on here again. I just read the Secret and I was wondering where you were and if we'd see you here again and lo and behold you're back...great to see you!
I'm almost done smoking my turkey...part of me wants to flower the wing and deep fry it to see how crunchy and tasty...lol
anyone, have a great day and bask in the love of your friends and families!!!
Posted by: Bear
| November 27, 2008 4:44 PM
We're off for a long, long walk...before seconds. :)
Happy Thanksgiving!
Posted by: blueINdallas | November 27, 2008 4:47 PM
Ha Craig, You changed the turkey picture. It's cooked now. Good. :)
Posted by: chloe
| November 27, 2008 4:59 PM
Ain't that America
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eOZ1WyZBiE
Posted by: chloe
| November 27, 2008 5:12 PM
Very clever Craig!
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 27, 2008 5:19 PM
Hey! Craig
The Turkey's done.
Posted by: Jamie
| November 27, 2008 5:31 PM
Pie hat!
http://boingboing.hexten.net/2008/11/26/pie-hat.html
Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 27, 2008 5:57 PM
jesus and mo......
http://www.popaganda.com/press/images/billboard_JesusSUV.jpg
Posted by: sturgeone | November 27, 2008 6:15 PM
http://www.mountholly-lamano.com/mayorsoffice/uploaded_images/569px-Burma_Shave_slogans-798937.jpg
the road to burma
Posted by: sturgeone | November 27, 2008 6:17 PM
Harold Lloyd doing his impression of the ending to "The Graduate"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2hhp0V-sxk&feature=related
Posted by: sturgeone | November 27, 2008 8:44 PM
We had turkey in Toledo at daughter’s place. Her man, the pilot, got called to work Wednesday; he had to fly to Miami FL to fly a big shot rich person somewhere.
He missed Thanksgiving, so the bird was oven-roasted instead of deep fried. I prefer the old-style way anyway—I am tired of those damn deep fried turkeys.
We took both cars because my wife went a day early to bake and prepare stuff…I had to wait until Thursday because we have an older big black dog and they have 2 Weimaraners and we also have a Jack Russell…a lot of dogs for an overnight stay.
I love her Weimaraners…they are just great dogs! If I was a country gentleman with room to spare I would have a Weimaraner too.
I am home now and of course my wife is hitting the stores at 5 AM to grab some presents, so she stayed another night.
And dig this: Gas in Toledo is $1.51 a gallon!! I overfilled my tank at that price.
How’s this for timing? As I got to Toledo, “Alice’s Restaurant” by Arlo Guthrie came on the radio…I got to hear the whole thing before I got to the house.
I got to see the Lions get creamed by the Tennessee Titans but then the women took over the TV for “Survivor” and some Hallmark movie.
And I hope you gentle folk had a turkey or something else nice.
Posted by: DexterJohnson
| November 28, 2008 12:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9I7NA8RmO7k
VW Bus footage for TIPTOE
Posted by: DexterJohnson
| November 28, 2008 1:03 AM
I dropped in at just the right time. Thanks Dex!
How different The Church looks now! And Arlo too. That's the REAL Officer Obie. http://www.arlo.net/obie.shtml
tt
Posted by: tiptoe
| November 28, 2008 1:49 AM
And Alice's Restaurant is a Thanksgiving favorite these days.
BTW, Arlo says that the whole story's true including the White Hall Street induction. And he had pneumonia during that part of the film.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4hVexkXkeI&feature=related
The only not true part is his male side kick. That was added for cinematic effect? : - )
tt
Posted by: tiptoe
| November 28, 2008 1:57 AM
"Send Your Heartfelt Goodbye Letter to George W. Bush"
http://goodbye.us/
"The Bush Move Game" Help him pack.
http://www.sendbushpacking.com/
tt
Posted by: tiptoe
| November 28, 2008 2:19 AM
Just got home from my sister's house, and my one word description is noisy. One four year-old, one three year-old, and one two year-old, all boys, with three strong men to rassle with, and you can't get other than noise. Those boys screamed and laughed all night. The two year-old fell aside in his car seat as his mom was buckling him in.
Menu was turkey and taters with great gravy, white and wild rice pilaf, and green bean casserole - very plain.
I had made my two different apple pies yesterday, one of which is very labor intensive and there was pumpkin pie. No big whoop but very nice, and extremely hot - don't know how they did that but it was very very warm.
Champagne of course, and cheese tasting before dinner.
The best part was a cd of my mom playing the piano as we ate.
I hope you all have as much to be thankful for as I do.
Posted by: bethyboo
| November 28, 2008 3:22 AM
Bethy and Dex -- sounds like you had a wonderful day. Same here. Food, family and friends. Smaller group than usual but a great day. My granddaughter and I watched the Tinkerbell movie, read Nemo and Dorie books and colored in the Tinkerbell and her Fairy Friends coloring book.
My friend Joe Sun told little Maria his favorite color was the rainbow, so she colored him a rainbow to take home.
Posted by: Patsi
| November 28, 2008 5:41 AM
BURP!
escuse moi, too much punkin pie mit homemade whipped cream.
Posted by: patd | November 28, 2008 5:56 AM
pirates continue to make the news
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iPPJ5oeH8vFtPkAUfYR0QS4NEbcQD94NSL6G0
Posted by: patd | November 28, 2008 7:00 AM
when the word was thunderbird, and the price was 40-twice.........
Posted by: sturgeone | November 28, 2008 7:28 AM
oops, that was billy joe shaver........"never mind" lol
Posted by: sturgeone | November 28, 2008 7:55 AM
sturge, are you reminiscing about the wine, the car or big walter "thunderbird" price?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8CLPWyR0S4
Posted by: patd | November 28, 2008 8:04 AM
this billy joe?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeJ4kp1AwY4
Posted by: patd | November 28, 2008 8:13 AM
ha.....well, it was the wine's price actually.....but it doesnt pay to reminisce long into the abyss.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBqdDB57nH8
I'd been thinking all this time that that was a Joe Sun song but google showed me it was billy joe shaver's
Posted by: sturgeone | November 28, 2008 8:15 AM
surge, this joe sun? you mean patsi's thanksgiving guest?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hS1VZ3wPFQ
Posted by: patd | November 28, 2008 8:21 AM
well, I been trippin' thru youtube and Im zinging along from one to another, and this goofy friend of mine calls me up......he says, "Channel 3 QUICK!" click. So I put it on channel 3 and it's Barry Manilow doing "Islands in the stream".
LOL........... about all the Barry Manilow chat lately.............
Posted by: sturgeone | November 28, 2008 8:57 AM
Thought for the day :
" A good man gone wrong is usually a bad man found out. "
1948 "Hopalong Cassidy" premiers on TV
Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 28, 2008 9:08 AM
For the Pirate fans -
1795 US pays $800,000 & a frigate as tribute to Algiers & Tunis
Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 28, 2008 9:11 AM
Is pecan pie at 8:00 A.M. wrong ?
Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 28, 2008 9:19 AM
What's your pirate name? I am sorry to report that I am Poop Deck Nadine.
http://gangstaname.com/pirate_name.php
Posted by: Patsi
| November 28, 2008 9:20 AM
And my Mafia name is Rosa the Fruit.
Posted by: Patsi
| November 28, 2008 9:23 AM
"Is pecan pie at 8:00 A.M. wrong ?"
It depends on how much you need to kick the old blood sugar up.
Pecan pie, an excellent grease and sugar delivery device.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| November 28, 2008 9:24 AM
"Is pecan pie at 8:00 A.M. wrong ?"
Only if sweet potato pie with marshmallow topping is wrong....
Posted by: Patsi
| November 28, 2008 9:25 AM
Saw Craig's panel discussion in Charlottesville on C-Span .
Kellyanne Conway - She was lamenting the poor state of the McCain & G.O.P. media effort, and reminded everyone that it was Obama who found " Joe the Plumber " , not John McCain.
Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 28, 2008 9:31 AM
Digging razor clams: Keep clam in the sand
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/getaways/389219_razorclam27.html?source=mypi
------------------------
That's good advice boys and girls.
" Keep clam in the sand " ..................... " Keep clam in the sand "
Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 28, 2008 9:39 AM
From the above article -
"Razors and eggs for breakfast, it's kind of like the payment for all your efforts," says Joe Hymer, a state fish biologist and longtime digger from Camas. "It just doesn't get much better than that."
---------
Yes it's true, he's talking about , Clam and eggs.
Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 28, 2008 9:46 AM
Plus by hunting razor clams, you don't get the anti-hunt drowd on your back. Poor clams. People think they are chopped liver. Or not.
Posted by: Patsi
| November 28, 2008 9:50 AM
Or the drowd crowd, as it were.
Posted by: Patsi
| November 28, 2008 9:51 AM
Elvis on clams:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxJwOzGcVAs
Posted by: sturgeone | November 28, 2008 10:02 AM
Elvis Presley - Clambake
No wonder he hated doing movies.
Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 28, 2008 10:07 AM
away to le shop............sawdust to be made............
reason # 2: "Frankie and Johnny"
Posted by: sturgeone | November 28, 2008 10:17 AM
German CO2 emissions fall below Kyoto requirements
Berlin - Germany has cut its greenhouse gas emissions to below levels required under the Kyoto Protocol on climate change, the government in Berlin announced on Friday. Europe's biggest economy's CO2 emissions, which are blamed for causing global warming, last year came in at 22.4 per cent below Kyoto's base years of 1990 and 1995, the environment ministry said in a statement.
http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/243842,german-co2-emissions-fall-below-kyoto-requirements.html
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Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 28, 2008 10:31 AM
The Onion: Bush Pardons Scooter Libby In Giant Turkey Suit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nj-tRDt5ww&eurl=http://crooksandliars.com/
Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 28, 2008 10:38 AM
I had a night filled with a bad headache, chills and nausea and I wasn't even here! LOL! We had Thanksgiving at the home one of my brother-in-law's sisters near Lansing yesterday. It went fine, although I guess for some reason her husband was mad at her yesterday. Why be angry on a holiday? Anyway, my brother-in-law's Dad is having a big catered party tonight. All kinds of hors d'oeuvres for the food. Should be good. I hope everyone had a good Thanksgiving yesterday.
Posted by: Corey
| November 28, 2008 10:45 AM
Temperature 16.1°F
Wind 27.2 mph
Direction 236° (SW)
Gust 38.0 mph
Wind Chill -3.2°F
Friday 11:30 AM
http://www.mountwashington.org/
Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 28, 2008 11:39 AM
Current Weather
11/28/2008
16:40:00 GMT
Temperature
-38.1°C -36.6°F
WindChill
-49.7°C -57.4°F
http://www.usap.gov/videoclipsandmaps/spwebcam.cfm
Spring is coming to the Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station.
Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 28, 2008 11:46 AM
Elvis had some pretty good early movies. One of the best: King Creole based on the book, "A Stone For Danny Fisher". Scrads of songs including
Crawfish
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oa7gT2V8WE4
Trouble
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ai7jkqv9sY
Posted by: Jamie
| November 28, 2008 11:50 AM
Chris Matthews Staffing Up For Senate Run: Report
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/28/chris-matthews-senate-run_n_146949.html
I wonder if Matthews plans to just spray all over the babies, rather than kiss them.
Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 28, 2008 12:17 PM
The Old Faithful WebCam
http://www.nps.gov/archive/yell/oldfaithfulcam.htm
Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 28, 2008 12:26 PM
Had a lot to eat-----everything was wonderful-----i was with the children more than with the adults---brought back a few hand drawn piccaso's to put by desk-----I never give card's out, for Christmas or any holiday,,or birthday,,,i just write a little notes----or cut and paste some drawing and put a note on it-----so i really like the coloring((page cut outs) that i get from them all
This weed end all the nieces and nephews will come in from all over the country to be together with each other for a cpl of days ----they do this once a year----they all grew up together and are good friends---we just go see them for a little while and then get out of the way----they all bring their kid along---the ones that we know----and the ones that we don't -----you can see a little of my mom and dad's face in all of them---it is great!!
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 28, 2008 12:28 PM
Live panorama of Halema`uma`u, Kilauea Volcano
http://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/cam3/
Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 28, 2008 12:33 PM
The Top 10 Webcams
http://www.earthcam.com/topten.php
A view from La Jolla Beach & Tennis Club facing South West (La Jolla Cove in the distance).
http://www.ljbtc.com/default.aspx?p=DynamicModule&pageid=228655
Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 28, 2008 12:46 PM
The Time Warp!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdu7xoHU9DA
"Let's do the Time Warp again ! "
Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 28, 2008 12:51 PM
" had a night filled with a bad headache, chills and nausea and I wasn't even here! LOL! "
Corey -- I always count on you to make me laugh!!!
Posted by: Patsi
| November 28, 2008 1:02 PM
The Eiffel Tower cam -
http://www.earthcam.com/france/paris/
Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 28, 2008 1:06 PM
And Solar Crete -- your Mexican Wrestler Name is La Fantasía Numero Uno (You can argue with them about whether you have to dress in drag....)
http://gangstaname.com/mexican_wrestler_name.php
Posted by: Patsi
| November 28, 2008 1:10 PM
Live View of Yosemite Valley -
http://yosemite.org/vryos/TurtlebackCam.htm
Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 28, 2008 1:12 PM
C-Bob -- were you ever down on East Colfax at the theater that had the midnight Rocky Horror Show every nite back in the 70s?
Posted by: Patsi
| November 28, 2008 1:15 PM
Patsi---great
I am now called -----Chico----the frito bandido.----they said that I don't need a mask-----the one i have will do????
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 28, 2008 1:22 PM
The Santa Fe Plaza Cam
http://www.santafeinformation.com/
Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 28, 2008 1:22 PM
Solar -- one of the jobs I had as a teenager in my mother's kitchen was to pour some salt in the butt of the turkey before my mom began to stuff it. Talking to the blog's drive-by dumpster is something akin to that task....
Posted by: Patsi
| November 28, 2008 1:23 PM
Patsi -
Missed that, I tried to stay out of Denver, and Colfax Ave.
Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 28, 2008 1:26 PM
Aw, C-Bob -- that's no fun. I lived on Race Street, just down from Pete's Kitchen and the Satire Lounge....
Posted by: Patsi
| November 28, 2008 1:32 PM
Patsi---got you----won't be talking to the drive-by's anymore
Oh by the by----I also entered us as a tag team---you are the devil muchacha -----know as La Fabulosa Muela----remember her?
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 28, 2008 1:32 PM
Best biscuits and gravy in Denver -- maybe the only biscuits and gravy in Denver.....
http://www.petesrestaurantstoo.com/petesKitchen.html
Posted by: Patsi
| November 28, 2008 1:36 PM
I 80 Evanston Port of Entry - mm 0.4
(View Facing West)
Evanston Wyoming
http://www.wyoroad.info/highway/webcameras/I80EvanstonPOE/I80EvanstonPOE.html
Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 28, 2008 1:36 PM
Didn't knw of La Fabulosa Muela...although I did google and find that Muela is a brand of very sharp Spanish knives....perfect.
I don't mean you shouldn't communicate with the drive by (it often can't be helped) -- just picture pouring salt up a turkey's butt when you do.
Posted by: Patsi
| November 28, 2008 1:40 PM
Patsi -
I was here for a few years -
http://www.estesparkcvb.com/cams.cfm
Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 28, 2008 1:42 PM
And here :
"City Hall" in downtown Steamboat Springs, Colorado. The camera is looking NW.
http://www.crh.noaa.gov/gjt/?n=steamboat
Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 28, 2008 1:50 PM
C-Bob -- I recall we laughed about this some years back -- you hung out in the classy part of the state, while I was here:
http://tinyurl.com/6kadca
Posted by: Patsi
| November 28, 2008 1:50 PM
"I don't mean you shouldn't communicate with the drive by (it often can't be helped) -- just picture pouring salt up a turkey's butt when you do."
I know-----by his reaction to my post that is exactly what i did today----but it does me no good to talk to him,,since i don't have heeeem in the square circle too toss him around a leetle bit-- no-----i ate so much yesterday that im still full---we brought some left overs for later---it' hard to talk espaniol with your fingers---Ha it hard for me to talk in any language with my fingers-----i have a nephew that teaches ---and told me that he could teach me correct written grammer-he is so busy that i will not bother him at this time---maybe thru emails?
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 28, 2008 1:55 PM
And here :
Monarch Pass -
http://www.dickgilbert.com/colocam-monarch1.htm
Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 28, 2008 1:55 PM
C B---and Patsi----------i don't envy people with $,,,, or larger homes,,or anything----except people that r well traveled...looks like u both are-----so is Sturg---maybe most of the people here at TM----great sites----estes park ---thanks
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 28, 2008 2:04 PM
And here :
Grand Lake -
http://www.earthcam.com/usa/colorado/grandlake/
Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 28, 2008 2:05 PM
Worker dies at Long Island Wal-Mart after being trampled in Black Friday stampede.
http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2008/11/28/2008-11-28_worker_dies_at_long_island_walmart_after.html
Posted by: Rezdog
| November 28, 2008 2:06 PM
Here :
Allenspark -
http://www.dickgilbert.com/colocam-allenspark1.htm
Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 28, 2008 2:08 PM
US-160 at Wolf Creek Pass
http://www.dickgilbert.com/colocam-wolfcrkpass1.htm
Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 28, 2008 2:10 PM
Rez-
Read your post yesterday about ---Thanks Giving----great attitude ---i try to do the same,,,although it's hard sometimes----water under the bridge and being pragmatic about is cool----it is what it is anyway----but i would like for schools to teach real history-----think that it would go a long way to stop some hatred due to ignorance---thanks
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 28, 2008 2:25 PM
I had a friend who worked for the Colorado Highway Dept. out of Alamosa. He ran the rotary plow on Wolf Creek Pass, and Monarch when it needed it. But mainly Wolf Creek.
You haven't lived until you've seen the Colorado Highway Dept. moving snow on Wolf Creek with that rotary plow. A giant orange monster, with a 300 foot rooster tail of snow being blasted off the mountain.
Wolf Creek Pass - C.W. McCall
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6enviWKCYGo
There are no "sippy cups" on Wolf Creek Pass.
Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 28, 2008 2:34 PM
C -Bob
NGC 186 Sat, Nov 29
2:00 AM Prehistoric Predators: Bear-----The short faced bear
lived 10,000 years ago,, and was killed off by the latest ice age----our ancestors had their hands full---ay
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 28, 2008 2:45 PM
This one is open only in the summer -
http://tom-purvis.com/images/blogFoto/IndependenceSign.jpg
Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 28, 2008 2:47 PM
C-Bob -- that link took me to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ev5EAfSsw8I&feature=related
and it made me wonder how many of us had "An Old Yellow Car" -- I sure did. I think it was a 1956 0r 57 Oldsmobile....
Posted by: Patsi
| November 28, 2008 2:52 PM
ATTENTION TRUCKERS -
STAY IN LOW GEAR ..... YOU'RE NOT DOWN YET !
http://www.mesalek.com/colo/picts/us160wolfcrtruckspeeds.jpg
Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 28, 2008 2:52 PM
CBob
Yosemite and Hawaii are fine, but can you spot the Loch Ness Monster?
http://www.lochness.co.uk/livecam/
Posted by: Jamie
| November 28, 2008 2:52 PM
"it is what it is anyway"
Yuppers. . And with that we're out to the casino. . . Our Montezuma's revenge. . . diarrhea of the pocketbook. :-)
Posted by: Rezdog
| November 28, 2008 2:52 PM
Nope -- I think this was it -- only a pale yellow....
http://www.americandreamcars.com/1954oldsrocket88021807.htm
Posted by: Patsi
| November 28, 2008 2:55 PM
Have some fruit to go with those chickens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bDITw772u0
Posted by: Jamie
| November 28, 2008 2:56 PM
The runaway truck ramp on Monarch Pass -
http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/content_images/photography_tour/mon_5.jpg
If you ever have to use one of these , this is not the one you try out on first.
Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 28, 2008 3:15 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/holiday-open-thread.html#comment-177635
HA, Chico-Solar..HA HA
Oh my God
I cooked to much and ate a fair bit!! It was all good,but after I cooked ,well I was over it.I enjoyed the family and friends though.I also sent it all home with them except some turkey and deviled eggs....Oh and one piece of pumpkin pie....Enough...I guess I will start on the tree this weekend..A glass of Chardonnay and tree trimming,oh and some Christmas music on the I-pod,I think I'll start with Donna Summer's Christmas..."Lovely" as my Aussie friend Baz would say...
Posted by: tonyb39
| November 28, 2008 3:15 PM
Dream car. Only 200 made and each has it's own particular serial number with the 200th one off the line kept for the museum. Riding in one was a dream since people just stopped and stared
http://www.bicentennialeldorado.com/
Posted by: Jamie
| November 28, 2008 3:17 PM
egads, now that's a sticky wicket! what is this world coming to...cricket tourney called!
"The tournament was to be staged next week in India, with teams from Australia, India, Pakistan, South Africa and England having qualified this year.
But with the tournament now rescheduled to next year, teams will have to re-qualify under a CA ruling.
That could turn state against state with bitter disputes over who are the rightful qualifiers....."
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24722990-11088,00.html
Posted by: patd | November 28, 2008 3:18 PM
I just found this book online. It is called "Behind the scenes, or, Thirty Years a Slave, and Four Years in the White House" by Elizabeth Keckley. She was a Black slave who was freed and become a close confidant to former First Lady Mary Todd Lincoln. I am so enjoying this book, not only for the historical significance, but also for the excellent writing by Ms. Keckley
http://digilib.nypl.org/dynaweb/digs/wwm9713/@Generic__BookView
Posted by: EuroTom | November 28, 2008 3:20 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/holiday-open-thread.html#comment-177666
Before Old 99 got widened and multi laned into Highway 5 going over the grapevine in central california, there wre several truck escape places both on the downside heading for Bakersfield going north or on the downside heading for Los Angeles going south
Posted by: Jamie
| November 28, 2008 3:23 PM
Now we have shootouts in Toys R Us
Nothing like killing people in front of the kids.
Posted by: Jamie
| November 28, 2008 3:24 PM
Hi everyone. Tomorrow we are having an American style Thanksgiving Dinner at my ex's home with his American husband, a woman friend of mine that was a colleague and her husband (American) and a Belgian with an American boyfriend who works at a military base. It will be the most Americans I've been around in one place in Europe. :)
I will eat carefully... I am making the cranberry sauce. My American brownies have been taken off the menu because there are 3 pies... Pumpkin, Pecan and Blueberry.
ET
By the way, weird stuff at a Long Island WalMart store. Can you IMAGINE a temporary worker getting trampled to death by crazed shoppers impatient to get in and get the bargains??? What has the world come to???
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/29/business/29walmart.html?em
Is this insane or what???
Posted by: EuroTom | November 28, 2008 3:29 PM
any chance some of the recent pirate show was for diversionary purposes? tactic to keep the indian navy busy while the terroists crept in by sea.
"...an Indian navy spokesman confirmed that the terrorists entered Mumbai without detection by taking a sea route. Starting from a base in Gujarat to the north of Mumbai, they made their way to the Gateway of India at Mumbai's southern tip and another landing point on the peninsula 14 nautical miles away; they killed one boatman in the process."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20081128/wl_time/08599186266100
Posted by: patd | November 28, 2008 3:30 PM
ATTENTION TRUCKERS : NO JAKE BRAKES !
Peterbilt Jakin' In SF tunnel with straight pipes!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mExSM3EHa5k
Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 28, 2008 3:30 PM
http://www.bicentennialeldorado.com/
Oh yes -- I can imagine folks stopping for that beauty, Jamie!
Posted by: Patsi
| November 28, 2008 3:30 PM
"...Asked whether there can be any connection between the pirates and the attacks in Mumbai, Vice Admiral Sunil K Damle, Flag Officer Commanding-in-Chief, Southern Naval Command, said such a thing cannot be ruled out.
"I cannot say but I will not rule it out. I cannot say whether there is connection or not. All I am saying is that we very strongly suspect such a thing can happen," he told reporters on board the INS Tir.
"It is a fact that our action against the Somali pirates in the recent past has got the Indian Navy into focus particularly in that area", he said, adding this also brought in a danger...Indian Navy being targetted by these people also in addition to the terrorists," he said.
"These bad elements unfortunately have a fair amount of illegal money at their disposal. Even if Somali pirates were not taking direct action against us, there is every possibility of them pumping in the money into such organisations which are capable of taking terrorist action against us", he said."
http://ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080074457
Posted by: patd | November 28, 2008 3:40 PM
Patsi,
The man I dated who owned it, would lend it out for a political parade care so it was equipped with a microphone. Nothing quite like waiting to be picked up from shopping and having someone drive up in that broadcasting, "Need a ride little girl?". lol
Posted by: Jamie
| November 28, 2008 3:56 PM
Tony ---good to see you------glad u r having a good time---have to do some extra exercises to work of all that we eat huh-----
I used to do a lot of partying in Wisconsin---when the freddy prinze comedy was on-----we played a lot of sports at a place called Furlans Dug out Inn----people from many diff states when there for fun----we even had winter softball----as many as 100 people there all the time------no one ever knew my real name------they just called me Chico----great times, and never any trouble---near twin lakes wis----fell in love there once-------well once every week end---hahaha
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 28, 2008 3:57 PM
Sturg
History channel --7 a.m. sunday
The last stand of the 300 Spartans-----greatly out numbered by the Persian forces--they fought to the death,hey fought long enough to let the Spartan army escape.
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 28, 2008 4:09 PM
" Nothing quite like waiting to be picked up from shopping and having someone drive up in that broadcasting, "Need a ride little girl?". lol"
ROFL! I love it!
Posted by: Patsi
| November 28, 2008 4:10 PM
Solar, I LOVED Freddy Prinze -- another dead boyfriend, C-Bob! (They are so much easier to deal with...)
Posted by: Patsi
| November 28, 2008 4:11 PM
Patsi---------u like the way Freddy P ---I was 6' 1" at the time and they said that i looked like him-
I still look like him----Dead! haha
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 28, 2008 4:16 PM
this is a good computerish illustration of the battle of thermopylae...........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6BDHGa4CEY
Posted by: sturgeone | November 28, 2008 4:43 PM
Sorry folks, but I'm drivin' around southern Colorado today.
This is the view east and a little north from Alamosa, the image is Mt. Blanca in the Sangre' de Cristos. This time of the year, the Sangre' de Cristos begin the cycle that they get their name from. When a southern low comes across Albuquerque in the winter, this valley, and those mountains, all turn white. The the winter sunset over the San Juans to the west, make everything pink. Different shades of pink every sunset all through the winter. They didn't just pull a name out of the hat when they named them The Blood of Christ .
This wetland, is at 8,000 ft. , that mountain is 14,345 feet.
I promise you it is the biggest mountain you've never heard of. It is absolutely huge. Just to the right is Ft. Garland, Kit Carson served out of Ft. Garland.
http://www.spa.usace.army.mil/opsphotos/ops%20photo%202005/Scenic/Winter%20Wetlands.Mt.Blanca.Alamosa%20County.Nov.05.Scenic.VanTruan.jpg
Posted by: Colorado Bob | November 28, 2008 4:49 PM
CBob,
Colorado is beautiful! Please keep the pictures coming. :)
Posted by: chloe
| November 28, 2008 4:55 PM
CBob,
Colorado is beautiful! Please keep the pictures coming. :)
---Chloe
Roger that..........
Posted by: sturgeone | November 28, 2008 4:58 PM
battle of thermopylae----good vidio-----what military discipline ----will tape to have all the details.
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 28, 2008 5:00 PM
yes that mountain that i did not know is breath taking----thanks
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 28, 2008 5:03 PM
"u like the way Freddy P ---I was 6' 1" at the time and they said that i looked like him-I still look like him----Dead! hah"
In 1970 I got a free hair cut in Salzburg because the people at the salon thought I was Shirley Maclaine (in town for a film thing of some sort)....my husband reminded me that her current movie was Irma La Douce.....
Posted by: Patsi
| November 28, 2008 5:33 PM
Outer Space----made the charts
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tel+star&search_type=#
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 28, 2008 5:41 PM
" In 1970 I got a free hair cut in Salzburg because the people at the salon thought I was Shirley Maclaine (in town for a film thing of some sort)....my husband reminded me that her current movie was Irma La Douce".....
I had u looking like Angie Dickinson------sorta like Bonnie and clyde ------u rob banks-----or box car bertha----yeah thats the ticket-----u moved around a lot------just changed your wrestling name
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 28, 2008 5:53 PM
Well, Solar -- I'm just impressed as hell that you looked like Freddie Prinze. Back in the day, and in Europe, my ex was mistaken for Omar Sharif....At our daughter's wedding I told him he's lucky those weren't the terrorist times...they'd have never allowed him on a plane.
Posted by: Patsi
| November 28, 2008 6:02 PM
Well Pats--that was back in the day---now i probably look like a cross between telly savales ,,,anthony quine , and dracula,,,,,you liked-----tall dark and handsome-------2 out 3 aint bad---i remember u saying that about you husband-
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 28, 2008 6:09 PM
Yep -- the ex was dark and handsome. Not so tall -- maybe 5'10...and he was a cool man -- played flamenco guitar, chemist, well-read, asshole....oops...not really, though he sometimes tried...as did I....and we're still friends after being divorced thirty years....or maybe because it's been that long....
Posted by: Patsi
| November 28, 2008 6:17 PM
Sounds like I would have liked him----worked, and played hard
Patsi---in between,,our pleasent little trip to the past----i was watching a video that is call origins-----on pbs---Astro Physicist--named
Neil DeGrasse Tyson----i will keep an eye out for the next time that it is shown------shows the origns of energy, stars, the chemicals that make us humans-----it is what u felt when your freind died ---or saw
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 28, 2008 6:27 PM
Aha -- I'd like to see it....
Posted by: Patsi
| November 28, 2008 6:35 PM
I have a picture, drawing, in my documents that shows the inflation,, bang, the spread of the universe------the cosmic of evolution---how can i put it on the t m thread ----like some have drawings and such?? thanks
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 28, 2008 6:39 PM
And speaking of life & death: the great Billy Joe Shaver, Live Forever...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeJ4kp1AwY4&feature=related
Posted by: Patsi
| November 28, 2008 6:44 PM
google or whatever u use ----pbs origins---it is all there---u will like.
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 28, 2008 6:44 PM
Patsi ----yes u can watch it all on line------when u get a little bored of things---i booked marked it to watch other parts that i don't have
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 28, 2008 6:48 PM
Hello Folks, Been at an antique show all day and am heating up the leftovers right now. Love coming home to a feast! If my feets don't fail me, will try making the first batch of candy canes tonight.
Solar- Haven't read up thread yet, but wanted to answer your question- time is relative so yes, after that fighter flight kicks in, time does slow down. Was that the correct answer?
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 28, 2008 7:05 PM
Hey Patsi, been meaning to ask you what you do in the music industry?
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 28, 2008 7:07 PM
Oh -- well, I've worked as a writer primarily -- marketing, artist related pr, you name it...and some books...
Posted by: Patsi
| November 28, 2008 7:10 PM
Here is the Origins website
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/origins/
The Episodes have interactive pictures you can view. The ones on a History of the Universe are spectacular
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/origins/universe.html
Posted by: Jamie
| November 28, 2008 7:17 PM
OSH---hello ---glad tha u have been posting---like your garden talks with Whisky-----and yes ----that is the correct answer----same thing for when we get older---the world moves a little slower for us
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 28, 2008 7:18 PM
New advertising push -- you, too, can buy someone's foreclosed home...
http://tinyurl.com/5s833o
Posted by: Patsi
| November 28, 2008 7:19 PM
Patsi Are your books still available to read? Your ex by the ways sounds like he was quite handsome. Just got icebreaked by a man on eharmony- he's 61, so he has that in his favor, but his profile says he hasn't read a book in years. Not trying to be a snob but what kind of person hasn't read a book in years?!
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 28, 2008 7:20 PM
Ooops mean't 6"1"
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 28, 2008 7:21 PM
Jamie------thank you for the pbs link------don't know why i did not link it---yes they are spectacular-----if i wanted to put a picture or drawing on the thread, how would i go about it,,,,thanks ahead of time
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 28, 2008 7:22 PM
OSH -- yes -- he was very good looking back then. But his attraction (at first) was intelligence and sense of humor. His greatest trait right now (IMO) is that he loves being a grandfather....sure some of the books are available...I'll find a link....
Posted by: Patsi
| November 28, 2008 7:24 PM
OSH: here it is:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw_0_10?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=patsi+bale+cox&sprefix=patsi+bale
Posted by: Patsi
| November 28, 2008 7:29 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/holiday-open-thread.html#comment-177698
Solar,
The only way I know that you can show your picture here is to scan it onto your computer and then put it onto a site you can link for us to go to. You can scan a picture onto your computer (using your printer, as long as it also scans) and save it in order to upload it to a site of your choice.
There's a site called blog spot (or Blogger) where you can open an account and have your own blog site there if you want. It instructs you how to set up your own site (and is free). It seems fairly easy to follow, as it gives detailed instructions.
This is the link:
https://www.blogger.com/start2
I've heard others here recommend a photo posting site also, but I don't know about that one, although I've seen others use and link it.
Posted by: chloe
| November 28, 2008 7:32 PM
Here is a good photo hosting site: Image Shack
http://imageshack.us/
Just create an account and then upload any photos from your computer. You can then share them with anyone just by pasting the URL here.
Posted by: Jamie
| November 28, 2008 7:35 PM
Hey Solar, Yeah, I like to have a chat with Jack, sometimes it feels like he is an old friend. I too have been enjoying your universe and Jesus stuff and chats with Chloe and Patsi.. Am pagan so am not too into the Jesus stuff , but appreciate the history and your unbelievably vast knowledge!! Aside from the negative energy here at times, I've just been real busy getting ready for the holidays. Less fudge, more chocolates- in the summer I would sit down for 10 minutes while waiting to stir the batch!
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 28, 2008 7:44 PM
Patsi,
That's a lot of books you've written! I didn't realize there were so many.
It looks as though "The Garth Factor" doesn't come out until May of '09. That sounds like a really interesting read. Did you work with Garth on that one?
Posted by: chloe
| November 28, 2008 7:48 PM
Solar- What is your definition of older? I'm 49, and time seems to be flying.
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 28, 2008 7:51 PM
I'm with you sea. The older I get, the faster the seasons and years go.
Posted by: chloe
| November 28, 2008 7:54 PM
Patsi,Thank you, I've read portions of your book "Coming Home", remember when it came out and it was great! Will for sure put your books on my wish list on amazon for my winter reading.
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 28, 2008 7:54 PM
Hey Chloe, How are you doing? Hope you had a great Thanksgiving!!
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 28, 2008 7:55 PM
Yes I did, thanks sea. Sounds like yours was great too.
Sea, I'm not really clear on all that pagan entails, but I bet there's some great conversations there. I may be one myself.:)
Posted by: chloe
| November 28, 2008 7:59 PM
OSH-- No I specifically told Garth I was doing it on my own, and would not show it to him until finished.
I take a lot of shots at the business end of music in the book, and did not want the reprocussions aimed at him. And I'll take some shots because of what I have to say about his own record label's treatment of him, I promise you...oh well...
(I wrote all label-generated info from 1990-on about Garth's music, though, and therefore had all the interviews and quotes from each album and event. Also had access to all archives. The book is about his career -- not a "personal" memoir...)
Posted by: Patsi
| November 28, 2008 8:03 PM
eHarmony to create same-sex service, settling complaint
NEW YORK (CNN) -- Online dating site eHarmony will create a service for same-sex matching in a settlement of a 2005 complaint that the company's failure to offer such a service was discriminatory.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/11/19/eharmony.same.sex.matches/index.html
Posted by: chloe
| November 28, 2008 8:04 PM
"eharmony still discriminate against people seeking same sex matches? "
Can they legally do that?
Posted by: Patsi
| November 28, 2008 8:05 PM
Aha -- thanks for the clarification, Chloe. It didn't sound legal....and I wondered if anyone filed suit.
Posted by: Patsi
| November 28, 2008 8:07 PM
I'm definitely going to be reading that one Patsi.
Meantime, I just need to decide which one to order now. :)
Did you get your McDonald's toys?
Posted by: chloe
| November 28, 2008 8:07 PM
One thing is I know you're in touch with energy, but that is more just magick, not exclusive to paganism, which is just a belief in more than 1 god. I believe in the duality of god(s) although I work more with godesses, I noticed Bear is into the Secret, that is based on witchcraft and Buddhism. Always kinda cracked me up all the Oprah fans getting into it, oblivious to the fact that they were practicing very basic witchcraft-just not called that. The first page acknowledges this by naming a Coven, but you wouldn't know it if you weren't familiar with the coven.
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 28, 2008 8:08 PM
Oh, was it OSH who asked about my sweet potato recipes? I fear that my daughter is the one who always makes a sweet potato dish...here's what she made this time:
http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Sarah-Contonas-Sweet-Potato-Pie/Detail.aspx
Chloe -- I have all but the zebra....
Posted by: Patsi
| November 28, 2008 8:09 PM
Yeah that was me Patsi. I went ahead with a recipe I got from southernfood.com ? which was reeally good, pecans on top of course and I took a cue from Jamie and added bourbon.
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 28, 2008 8:12 PM
Back from a party/birthday party at my brother-in-law's Dad's condo. It was the 2nd party he's had for his upcoming 80th birthday. Party #3 will be in January. LOL! We had hors doeuvres for the meal: Hot wings, egg rolls, pigs in a blanket, beef wellington, and barbeque meatballs as well as a cheese and meat tray, a veggie tray, a few other small things and a yellow cake with white frosting. Good stuff!
Posted by: Corey
| November 28, 2008 8:15 PM
eHarmony seems like a bunch of a-holes....
Posted by: Patsi
| November 28, 2008 8:19 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/holiday-open-thread.html#comment-177730
I'm not sure what to say to all of that, because I know so little about it. You're right, I do believe in energy. But I'm not sure why you called it magic.
What I really most deeply believe in is nature, and all it entails. And I like to think of it as 'Mother Nature'. To me nature is all there is, it's everything.
Posted by: chloe
| November 28, 2008 8:22 PM
Any experience with it Patsi? It seems kind of corny to me and I guess I really don't care to share much info with absolutely complete strangers. I don't meet many men here, live across the st. from the harbor- but those coming in on boats seem to be all drunkards, or married. There are enough single men on the island, but they just ne'er do wells. I have a big house overlooking the harbor and the packy so I am of course a prime target for them. Guess it's like that in most tourist areas.
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 28, 2008 8:28 PM
OSH-----man --oh-- man, do i get myself in trouble with you ladies-------I called Rosie an older muchacha,,I had my pal Chloe running a house of ill dance hall once (bordello) ,,i did not mean to say that u r old----i meant that as we all age-at a certain point time will slow down a little for us.....the Jesus stuff, is taken from books and videos programs that i have taped for years----i am a religious non believer,,,that wants the truth out there for people to see---------but when this started i thought i would just post bits and pieces,, the Universe stuff the same ----but it looks like i forget some details, so have to go thru them
again----which is fun for me cos ---it looks like i missed some things, XR is really up on all of this Jesus stuff too -and it has been a lot of fun arguing with him about it--
Chole----Hello---thanks for the link-----thanks for your support -as ---thanks for being you---nature and all it entails-----excellent ----
Jamie ---it registered on the site that you provided ---ill try to do something with it later------I have a wonderful picture of the Universe that shows and explains the inflation of it from the start,,,shows how many years in between each phase of evolution that the universe went thru before there were stars,,,and after---and it expanding,,it gives one a pretty good sense of it all,, i use it as my pc background sometimes,thank you
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 28, 2008 8:28 PM
Because magick exists and it is just the bending, manipulating of energy. Witchcraft is an earth based spirituality. Sounds like you're on your way girl!
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 28, 2008 8:29 PM
No, no Solar, no worries, I didn't take it that way at all. I have no idea what you consider old, or old enough for time to slow, just wondering. I knew that you weren't a practicing anymore either. I follow your posts!
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 28, 2008 8:32 PM
"Sounds like you're on your way girl!"
Ha, far from it sea. I'm already exactly where I want to be.:)
Solar, Those things you just said to me are among the nicest things anyone has ever said to me. Thank you. (and you don't need to work with that teacher relative of yours that you were talking about, you express yourself beautifully) :)
Patsi, I'll stay on the lookout for your zebra.
Posted by: chloe
| November 28, 2008 8:37 PM
"Because magick exists and it is just the bending, manipulating of energy. Witchcraft is an earth based spirituality. Sounds like you're on your way girl!"
you can't leave an opening like that around----it' s too tempting,,,,but ill refrain -----in enough trouble----but Patsi---does have the latest broom model ---and it aint for sweeping
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 28, 2008 8:37 PM
Regarding Oldseahag's post on age...
Well Sea, I'm 49 too and I must say I don't like it ONE BIT !! I was always the "youngest" in the crowd I was with, probably because my birthday is in August and end August was the cut off for going to kindergarten if you were already 5 years old. Those in September on had to wait a year.
Anyway, I am accepting that I am getting old and realize I am truly middle-aged but I still feel like the goofy young guy I was. One thing that helps... I love humor and we have a fun working relationship in my shop... my employees are my colleagues more than my subordinates (except if I lose my temper, but they understand that passes). We have mostly a good time in a high stress business and we joke and act silly while still maintaining a friendly and warm atmosphere.
49 ... bleech!
Yesterday When I Was Young
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEY4LxORCeo
If I Could Turn Back Time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5G4O5AMSevc
Posted by: EuroTom | November 28, 2008 8:39 PM
It's always good to have another form of transportation!
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 28, 2008 8:41 PM
ET- have though more about age this year, although it might be more the passing of time and watching my parents grow old that freaks me out more than anything. Although, not real thrilled with the extra 8 pounds I gained this year and can't seem to drop it like i used to!
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 28, 2008 8:44 PM
"I am accepting that I am getting old and realize I am truly middle-aged but I still feel like the goofy young guy I was"
I think everyone feels like that.
Posted by: chloe
| November 28, 2008 8:44 PM
" I have a big house overlooking the harbor and the packy so I am of course a prime target for them. "
Ha, OSH -- I have a friend who says too many are looking for a "nurse or a purse."
No, I don't know anything about eHarmony except what was posted about the same sex deal. There was a time I'd have said, "Stay Away!" from those sorts of meet-ups. But I have a friend in NY who met her fabulous third husband through an ad in Village Voice, and another friend here in TN who met the love of her life online. So who knows?
If I were in the market, I think I'd keep all options open.
But at my age I am more in the Janis Ian mode when she sang Pass the Tea and Sympathy (for the good old days long gone...) cool song and I bet it's on YouTube...if so, I'll post!
Posted by: Patsi
| November 28, 2008 8:50 PM
An absolutely fabulous lyric about lost youth and lost love:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmHXRJMxYCQ&feature=related
But not a sad lyric, I think.....
Posted by: Patsi
| November 28, 2008 8:55 PM
"but Patsi---does have the latest broom model ---and it aint for sweeping"
ROFL -- yes, I'm magically capable of turning into one at the drop of a dime!
Posted by: Patsi
| November 28, 2008 8:57 PM
Patsi- one smart friend. Don't know that song, always loved Society's Child though. Amazed me that she wrote that at such a young age (i think at 16)
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 28, 2008 8:58 PM
Patsi,
What a beautiful song. I'd never heard it. Thanks.
Posted by: chloe
| November 28, 2008 9:04 PM
"Fare thee well
Trade in all our words for tea and sympathy
Wonder why we tried, for things that could never be
Play our hearts lament, like an unrehearsed symphony
Not intend
To leave this castle full of empty rooms
Our love the captive in the tower never rescued
And all the victory songs
Seem to be playing out of tune
But it's not the way
That it has to be
Don't trade our love for tea and sympathy
'Cause it's not the way
That it has to be
You begin
And all your words fall to the floor and break like china cups
And the waitress grabs a broom and tries to sweep them up
I reach for my tea and slowly drink in"
Posted by: chloe
| November 28, 2008 9:05 PM
Patsi- beautiful song, left me a bit melancholy though.
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 28, 2008 9:06 PM
"Amazed me that she wrote that at such a young age (i think at 16)"
Janis Ian was stunning for a young writer. And while she's written great things since -- I believe she's never surpassed those younger days....
Posted by: Patsi
| November 28, 2008 9:08 PM
Sorry OSH -- didn't mean to leave you melancholy! I am such a fan of everything Ian writes, and that in particular....a couple of others, too...
Posted by: Patsi
| November 28, 2008 9:10 PM
Society's Child
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW_rYLoIR08
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 28, 2008 9:10 PM
That's quite alright, I just was saying that I think it is melancholy as opposed to sad. Always love to listen to Janis!
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 28, 2008 9:14 PM
It's still so hard to believe that such a beautiful person wrote this:
Janis Ian - At Seventeen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efHOIT1ROk8
Posted by: chloe
| November 28, 2008 9:19 PM
Here's another beautiful and melancholy song IMO also dealing with the passage of time from my girl Stevie ( who is also a witch)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhNrrrCCTdA
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 28, 2008 9:20 PM
OSH, I feel your pain ! You know, when I was a little kid, my Mom had the Roy Clark 8-Track tape with the song "Yesterday When I Was Young"... It mean't NOTHING to me.. Now, it is so significant in my life!
WOW
Off to bed..
Posted by: EuroTom | November 28, 2008 9:20 PM
Goodnight Et.
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 28, 2008 9:26 PM
Nice song sea. I like Stevie Nicks a lot too. All the really great music comes from the past (imo). :)
Tomorrow.
Posted by: chloe
| November 28, 2008 9:26 PM
Chloe, agreed, good night.
Posted by: oldseahag
| November 28, 2008 9:27 PM
night sea.
Posted by: chloe
| November 28, 2008 9:28 PM
Bobby Darin
Once Upon A Time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ8mVtBnawA
Posted by: Jamie
| November 28, 2008 9:45 PM
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/9363/bangch2.th.png
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 28, 2008 9:56 PM
Off to my sister's for another turkey meal. I left everything at her house - HA! But I did get kudos for how fast I cleaned her kitchen last night - well, not all cleaned but quite decent. I keep telling them the first thing to do is stack the dinner dishes and put all the sterling in one pot and let it soak - then there's all sorts of space to put the rest of it. But do they listen? You know the answer is NO.
And then the young women, my niece's, take over and I refuse to tell people any more to get out of the way and I'll do it. They're what my bil calls Young Mothers on the March - don't argue with them. they're such darling darling dolls!
Posted by: bethyboo
| November 28, 2008 10:07 PM
Patsi------down load image from 9:56 pm link ----set as back drop ----enlarge to make it fir screen-----it too small -go into properties, click desktop,,,on position open it , and click stretch, click apply, then ok ,,it will fill the screen---you could always change it it you don't like it
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 28, 2008 10:07 PM
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/1824/bangdv1.th.png
did the image over it should be fine now ---re sized it
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 28, 2008 10:13 PM
Here's something to lighten the moo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK_nmhhDpxw
I hope everyone had a nice Thanksgiving
Posted by: rosiethecat
| November 28, 2008 10:26 PM
the picture is still small, Solar. I can't tell what it is.
Posted by: rosiethecat
| November 28, 2008 10:37 PM
http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bangyu2.png
for a 21 inch screen
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 28, 2008 11:00 PM
Some more Gilmore Island Jam for a quiet Friday Nite.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD1-j5ZWOmw
Posted by: Rezdog
| November 29, 2008 1:10 AM
"What fun, and I'm glad to see Obama has brought Powers on back on board, the woman has a top notch mind when it comes to foreign policy."
======================
"The problem for those who favor a strong US-Israel relationship is that Power seems obsessed with Israel, and in a negative way. ... And it is clear that her approach to addressing the Israeli-Palestinian conflict would be for the US to behave in a more "even handed" fashion, which of course means withdrawing US support for Israel, and instead applying more pressure on Israel for concessions.
Power appears to support slashing, if not eliminating, military aid to our ally (surrounded by 300 million people who wish to destroy her) and giving it to the Palestinians, whose charters (whether the Hamas or Fatah version) advocate the destruction of Israel.
Power also showed her animus toward Israel in another instance, appearing to argue with the New York Times for more negative coverage of Israel in the paper."
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/02/samantha_power_and_obamas_fore_1.html
Posted by: GORDO | November 29, 2008 1:47 AM
We can always count on you to stop in and try to turn a cordial encounter into something negative.....
Posted by: Patsi
| November 29, 2008 2:53 AM
it was 66 and 67......I was inna house band at a beach pavillion......I opened (and since I play piano, I played with) most of these at the time "B" list acts: The Hully Gully Olympics, Lee Dorsey, Huey "Piano" Smith and the clowns, The Tams, The Dixiecups, Maurice Williams and the Zodiacs, Fats Domino, Gary "US" Bonds, Bobby Moore and the Rhythmn Aces, and 8 or 9 different sets of "Original Drifters.....................
Posted by: sturgeone | November 29, 2008 3:03 AM
oops.....Fats wasnt "B" List.....how he got in there, I'll not never knowishly fathom.......
Posted by: sturgeone | November 29, 2008 3:05 AM
Oh, I forgot Ernie K-Doe......."Mother-in-Law"
Posted by: sturgeone | November 29, 2008 3:07 AM
these kids were fun:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neqT_qbQycE
Posted by: sturgeone | November 29, 2008 3:10 AM
......I completely failed to mention the 9 or 10 shows we did with Doug Clark and the Hotnuts.......holey moley
Posted by: sturgeone | November 29, 2008 3:16 AM
In 66 i was 2 years shy of 20........amazing.......simply ponderous......................
Posted by: sturgeone | November 29, 2008 3:19 AM
what........................like I'm the only one here?
yeah, right.
Posted by: sturgeone | November 29, 2008 3:25 AM
Hmm....I'm back up -- couldn't get back to sleep after letting the dog out....but am glad to read aboit Doug Clark and the Hotnuts! I saw them back in 66 or 67 -- they were the big news around campus for quite a while....
Posted by: Patsi
| November 29, 2008 4:45 AM
a little something to get us started
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Uw03hS_EMY
Posted by: patd | November 29, 2008 6:51 AM
iz is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1W_UkcyZ-Q
Posted by: patd | November 29, 2008 7:03 AM
Some very cool music last night and this am....Stevie Nicks, Bobby Darin, the Cowbells, Dixie Cups...love that David Gilmour guitar...and Ernie Kovaks channeling Devo-moves to top it off! (Or did Devo channel Ernie-moves....)
Interesting that Janis Ian could write such powerful songs about time passing while still a very young woman...but then, it was when I was very young that I fell in love with songs like "Tea and Sympathy." Music makes it go 'round...no doubt....
Posted by: Patsi
| November 29, 2008 7:41 AM
patsi, how about a 5 years old writing this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1W_UkcyZ-Q
Posted by: patd | November 29, 2008 8:07 AM
sorry wrong link. that certainly wasn't mozart.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVME1auBjHM
Posted by: patd | November 29, 2008 8:10 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/11/holiday-open-thread.html#comment-177773
You got it all set up....Very cool Solar! :)
Posted by: chloe
| November 29, 2008 8:36 AM
ROFL -- Rupert Murdoch hates O'Reilly, but denies that he's turned liberal...
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Author_Murdoch_absolutely_despises_bullying_Bill_1128.html
Posted by: Patsi
| November 29, 2008 8:42 AM
patd -- Mozart! Yes, yes...of course, few prodigies have been found in fields like writing, painting, sculpture -- different set of skills and brain cells than those involving mathematics and music. (There's that young girl, Akiane (?) who was sent from God to paint...and is amazingly accomplished....but few others.)
I had an interesting talk with a young woman who cut my hair at oneof those inexpensive "no appointment" places. She was a tremendous hair cutter -- and my hair is hard to cut...thick, coarse, and full of cowlicks....but she took great time and excruciating pains to be precise...in our conversation she mentioned that the only classes she really liked in school were math and science. She then said that since she'd been very young, she could do two things well -- math problems and hair cutting. And I thought, of course, that's where this precision comes from.
Posted by: Patsi
| November 29, 2008 8:53 AM
http://www.rr.com/view/content/story.cfm?storyId=6303057&view=HOME&newsgroup=9000&sSect=HOM_1
"Saudi king says oil should be $75 a barrel"
Posted by: tonyb39
| November 29, 2008 9:07 AM
patsi, and then there are those who have synesthia and see music as colors. this link and several others are quite fascinating about this and other mental phenomena, talent or gifts. http://cabinet-of-wonders.blogspot.com/2007/10/synesthesia-flavor-of-music-color-of.html
Posted by: patd | November 29, 2008 9:10 AM
that was supposed to read "synesthesia"
tony, am surprised he priced it so low.... a little conflict of interest there?
Posted by: patd | November 29, 2008 9:17 AM
That bird is starting to look a bit ripe, Craig. Better put it in the fridge.
Posted by: LardassLiberal
| November 29, 2008 9:26 AM
http://cabinet-of-wonders.blogspot.com/2007/10/synesthesia-flavor-of-music-color-of.html
VERY interesting link, pat!
Posted by: Patsi
| November 29, 2008 9:27 AM
More on sweet potatoes.
The only brand of canned sweet potatoes I use is Bruce's; they are consistently good.
Take three cans of potatoes, drain all except 1-1/2 cups of the liquid. Put the potatoes and liquid in a suitable casserole. Dump in 1-1/2 cups of light brown sugar, 1/2 stick of unsalted butter, and about 1/4 cup of good quality clover honey. Season with freshly ground black pepper and a sprinkling of sea salt. Sometimes, I will grind a little nutmeg and sprinkle on top.
Bake in 325-deg oven for a couple of hours (uncovered) until the remaining liquid is reduced and the sugar and honey and butter have infused the potatoes. The potatoes may be gently turned as necessary.
Towards the end of the baking, taste test the potatoes and correct the seasoning to your taste.
The same recipe can be prepared in the microwave with a medium setting. Cook for about 1/2 an hour checking periodically.
Posted by: Flatus
| November 29, 2008 10:13 AM
My 10:13. Should have specified three _large_ cans of potatoes. Looking at the spelling of potatoes, I had a thought of how close Dan Quayle was to being right.
Posted by: Flatus
| November 29, 2008 10:28 AM
Happy Holidays to all!
New Thread at Noon
Posted by: Craig Crawford
| November 29, 2008 10:30 AM
Thank you Craig, and to you, too.
Posted by: Flatus
| November 29, 2008 10:32 AM
i'll admit it, this year's traditional Trail Mix Turkey Silde Show has been a fraud. Earlier, that was the bird i cooked last year, and yes, we end with store-bought sandwich meat. Book writing got in the way this year, so had to go with deli turkey and a sliced ham from the internet. Next year i promise a legitimate show.
Posted by: Craig Crawford
| November 29, 2008 10:54 AM
Do you need more words?
Posted by: Flatus
| November 29, 2008 11:15 AM
patd,
That blog you linked on synesthesia (sensory crossover) was very interesting. I took this quote from it with me:
"Lend your ears to music, open your eyes to painting, and . . . stop thinking! Just ask yourself whether the work has enabled you to 'walk about' into a hitherto unknown world. If the answer is yes, what more do you want?"
........................
Patsi, I read what you said about math, music and precision hair haircutting all being similar thought processes, and agree with you (once I thought about it a little). Makes sense.
Posted by: chloe
| November 29, 2008 11:51 AM
"-i think that he call his pc's (6 of them) by name and pinned a tail on em---on a good night (when he tokes up) they probably even bark- keep up the good work late at night---it keeps him up, and away from the serious talks in the mornings"
LOL Solar
Posted by: chloe
| November 29, 2008 12:24 PM
Chole
Very cool picture of the expanding universe---there is the energy that you and Patsi talk about----if you want to right click on it, and set up as background---it will enlarge and you can see at the very start of it all------Quantum fluctuations, and inflation----the first time that i saw this is exactly how i felt-----stared at it for a little while, and said ---cool, forgot to say very but i even felt it-----back and forth today as usual ---
Tomorrow the History channel will have a totally new series on called Universe for 2008 starting at 12 pm central---gonna tape it and watch later on-----see u later
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 29, 2008 1:02 PM
You know that indestructible black box that is used on airplanes? Why
don't they make the whole plane out of that stuff?!
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 29, 2008 3:28 PM
No body around today----have on some smooth jazz to keep me company.
You know that arch that noah built, and then put 2 of every kind of animal (it's Actually 7-in the bible ) if he didn't let in the two flies --one male -one female ----a lot of people would not have died of disease -----was that planned? shoulda swatted em going in.
Posted by: SolarCrete
| November 29, 2008 4:32 PM
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