Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

Happy Birthday to Tiptoe!

Oh harborwoman, you're good! Thank you.

I'm now 105 but holding at 104 until further notice.

Craig, I heard on the news, but it felt like serious hearsay, that in WV early voters saw their Obama votes being changed to McBush votes before their very eyes.

Sounds plausible but also fishy.

tt

Well...I wasn't sure, Tiptoe! Is your birthday Oct 20 or Oct. 21? And, my dear...you're holding up fabulously for a woman of...ahem...104 and holding....

You know Craig,
I still have a weird feeling about the repugs. I don´t know why.... Something tells me that on election day or shortly before we might be surprised in a big way.....
call me the devil´s advocate.....But, the voter surge may also work contrarily....
I so don´t belive any poll which is out there, but the voter turnout may be spicy.
I just do not want people to think that BO is so in front that he will be automatically elected........

On the other hand.... Welll, let me keep that to myself.

But,
If BO wins big...... Two things will be certain
1. HRC was dead wrong, saying t her supporters in the primary that BO was less likely than her to win in November
2. Mitt Romney will be the partie´s clear frontrunner in 4 years, alas someone like BO comes along for that party (I so see Sarah P somewehere)

happy B day TT..........

TT here'a a birthday present -

Obama leads McCain 50 percent to 42 percent among likely U.S. voters in the latest three-day tracking poll, up from a 6-point advantage for Obama on Monday. The telephone poll has a margin of error of 2.9 percentage points.

"It was another very big day for Obama," said pollster John Zogby. "Things clearly are moving in Obama's direction."

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE49J0LF20081021

CBS over night is reporting a 54/41 number on their poll, but it isn't up on the web yet.

The Move On Moose -

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/10/20/where-palin-goes-the-moveon-moose-will-follow/?mod=loomia&loomia_si=t0:a16:g4:r2:c0

So, Biden guarantees "It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. ... Remember I said it standing here if you don't remember anything else I said. Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy."

Sort of goes against the argument that electing Obama automatically makes the world like us again.

Morning - Happy Bday TT

Polls Polls everywhere the polls.....

Craig - Who Knows? Nice piece today.....

All these new voters -- I call the Brain Factor!!

And take the demographic.. Forget race - just the economics. Obama is playing to them like the pied piper!

Free for everyone of you! Barack is seen as a Robin Hood to this group!

Just do not kill the goose that lays the eggs

Ping,

We are the land of the free, so give me everything for free. Why work, if you can get free money? And then a extra check for not paying any taxes.

Who here wants to be one of the Obama 90 Percent Club?

Me, ME, ME ME

From the google search "early voting records"

More than 33,000 Dallas County voters had cast ballots by the time the polls closed at 5 p.m. Monday.
The previous record set on the first day of early voting came in 1996, when 21,960 votes were cast.

Ft. Worth -
A first-day record also was set in Tarrant County, where 28,273 votes were recorded by 6 p.m., a number that was expected to increase slightly. The previous record was 17,685 in the 2004 presidential election.

Steamboat Springs, Colo.-
Almost 400 Routt County residents cast their ballots Monday in what Clerk and Recorder Kay Weinland called the busiest first day of early voting in county history.

Fla -
Meanwhile a record number of voters all across Hillsborough County showed up to vote early.
More than double voted this time than in 2004. 7,648 people voted in Hillsborough County on Monday according to Hillsborough County's Supervisor of Elections, Buddy Johnson.

One man wearing a suit walked out of the courthouse after voting and yelled "Thank you Jesus! Thank ya'!"

Members of Florida A & M's marching 100 band marched straight to the polls too.
They entertained the crowds along the way.

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=early+voting+records&ie=UTF-8&nolr=1&sa=N&start=0

Ping
It was nice to here from you about the Obama rally in O-Town yesterday.I wanted to drive over, but I had to work.Thanks also for your thoughtful posts from a Republican perspective!!! I enjoy them...

"Just do not kill the goose that lays the eggs"

Let's do what the gov. of Alaska, did tax the oil companies and give everybody a $1200 check.
If it's good enough for Alaska it's good enough for the lower 48.

Obama the fairy tale..

Thanks tonyb

After listening to Obama live and being in the crowd it creates mixed feelings...
He is a very persuasive speaker

Two key ones.
1 Obama clearly plays to the fear and wants and makes corp. America evil – All Big Government and how he will do all of these things for them. (I guess I am not one of them)

2 Where the news outlets are getting the numbers of people – now they are raising to 60K at the event – No Way. Having been there – looked at the photo’s, this is just another continuation of the news media love affair or the city (now check the bias of the mayor and chief of police) to fluff up Obama. If over 20K I would be surprised.

Anon -
I look forward to my oil rights check once they start to drill of the Florida Coast!!!
I have family in Alaska and this sharing is not new

Records released by the secretary of state's office show 12% of registered voters in Georgia have cast their ballots early.

The numbers show women turned out at a higher rate than men, with 388,000 women voting early compared to 284,000 men.

http://wsbradio.com/localnews/2008/10/early-voting-a-hit.html

Ping -

I see, it's not socialism if it's typed on your keyboard.

As of the close of the polls this past Friday some 691,507 Georgia voters had gone to the polls early.

"I look forward to my oil rights check once they start to drill of the Florida Coast!!!"

Ping, about the time that would happen, there would be a dramatic drop in the market price of Florida Salty Crude. And, somehow, the residents of that Great State would end-up owing Big Oil the costs for developing their marginal resource.

happy bday tt... the 1st hundred the hardest?

isn't it odd that he is not leaving for hawaii until thursday?
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/10/20/obama_leaving_trail_thursday_t.html?hpid=topnews

Happy B'Day TT!

Anon - Maybe selective - lets explore...

Mineral and oil rights payments – a cost for raw materials which are owned by the people. That once oil drilling is started as is blocked by the Dem’s and Obama will have a supply and demand impact favorable to the US.

Vs

Higher taxes on PROFITS and success – that are very progressive – that will send global jobs away from the US.

Naaa my keyboard is consistent
One is a cost of goods, the other is social engineering by policy

Happy B'day TT!

Here's a link to the poll you pay to take; 7-11 coffee cups. Maybe Obamaniacs don't only go to Starbucks. One other thing about this poll, not only do you have to pay to take part, but you then display your choice to the world until your beverage is gone.

http://www.7-election.com/

Check the results.

"isn't it odd that he is not leaving for hawaii until thursday?"

The whole relationship seems odd. Since he started campaigning, I just remember that one time that he visited with her and that was in conjunction with a family vacation. I don't recall mention that the great-grandkids saw her, or if Mrs Obama attended.

Flatus,
If our FUNDAMENTALS are maintained then the risk / reward stays with the big oil.

Problem is Big Government tinkers with these fundamentals.

And Barack Obama and Gibbs keeping telling us our Fundamentals are wrong? Why do they just not come out and say they are socialist - or even further - should everyone live in the same block house?

Ping, the last couple of decades has been about transferring risk from large corporate interests to the taxpayer. And, once that's done, management cashes out leaving nothing for the shareholders.

Just to show how idiotic these polls are.

This week Mc Cain takes the lead again in Ohio and Florida... I mean... Huh?
I suspect BO was never in the lead in Fl and Oh.
My parents were very surprised to hear that BO had opened up a lead of 7 points in Fla three weeks ago.....

I think BO is right to say not be over confident.... I do not trust these polls at all.
Can y´all remember the polls in the primaries when the polls had BO up by double digits in California?

That is why I am saying....The repugs are quiet but they are busy. Craig said last time, I don´t know why the dems blabb the whole time about what they are doing. The repugs are quiet......

The Sun interviewed 72 voters at five early voting sites across Southern Nevada and one in Carson City. Sixty one of the 72 said they had voted for Obama.

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/oct/19/voters-bring-passion-polls/

Flatus - On the individual basis and some of the corp. parachute payouts to US based executives is absurd. they are big numbers for an individual but the maginal impact of these individual payouts is marginal at best - it is attitude

But overall – beyond some incentives – I have not seen the transfer of risk? Why are corporations going bankrupt?

Business is the back bone of our economy – all segments and size. This must be the focus to maintain these Fundamentals.

Big Government is not the answer – it is when Government gets involved to disrupt our Fundamentals that we have problems – hence what we are in today.

Barack = Big Government

What in the heck is wrong with people?

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5igVGB_hHJfX2Odof8OgJyEPkCLPwD93UJIT83

"...bear cub shot to death in front of the school's administration building at the entrance to campus. The Obama yard signs were stapled together and placed over the bear's head..."

OK, McCain, this is a right, logical and understandable reason to suspsend a campaign. Not to create a lot of motion in order to look like you're actually doing something.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-obama-grandmaoct21,0,3939455.story

'A Dinosaur Dance Floor'

Numerous Tracks at Jurassic Oasis on Arizona-Utah Border

Oct. 20, 2008 - University of Utah geologists identified an amazing concentration of dinosaur footprints that they call "a dinosaur dance floor," located in a wilderness on the Arizona-Utah border where there was a sandy desert oasis 190 million years ago.

http://www.unews.utah.edu/p/?r=042508-1

Blue -

That's the "Culture of Life" at work.

The GOP has been fiscally irresponsible. The party has been co-opted by the right-wingnuts and Ronald Reagan wouldn't even recognize the party were he still around today. All of the "big government" fear-mongering of the GOoPers falls flat. I think Warren Buffet knows that business is the backbone of our economy...and he supports Obama.

We all wish the best for his Grandma Madelyn Dunham. Her story is already playing again and she seems like a great women.

Now if Barack can instill her character into America then this is a positive. To bad his own words are a contradiction to her values.

What does suspend mean?

Does the mean I will not see any commercials or activity in honor of his Grandma? That his wife, Michele, and children will join him to visit and honor their relationship?

you'll have to google for the link.......

AN ENORMOUS CRIME.....by Martin Hendon, Bill Hendon, Elizabeth something

the allegation of the book:
600 americans are still being held in North Viet Nam......according to the paris accords, USA was to pay N. Viet Nam for the release of POW's.......Half were released, of whom McCain was one, but the payment was never made and 600 are still being held prisoner in NVN.......

Wow Corey's prediction could take the day!

Maybe Fritz Mondale and Jimmy Carter can help McCain get over it. Mondale only carried his home state, Carter only slightly better.

McCain is on Imus tomorrow and Imus intends to ask him about An Enormous Crime's allegations......LeBoutillier and Hendon were just on Imus alleging McCain has some info on this subject.

Morning Joe -

Joe : There is zero ground game for McCain in Fla.
Chuck Todd moves his map to 313 E. Votes for Obama.

I know how McCain can turn it around. He can announce that if elected he will start a crash program to find and perfect that "Magic Wand" the Republicans are so fond of talking about.

? Anon - what are you talking about ... Magic Wand - sounds like a creation in your realm

J.B.White's take on the Colin Powell endorsement.

http://rattlergator.typepad.com/rattlergator/2008/10/the-african-american-slide.html

Tony,
It's so good to see you here this morning. I've been wondering why you're not around more. You're missed.

Sturge, Is this it?

An Enormous Crime: The Definitive Account of American POWs Abandoned in Southeast Asia (Hardcover)
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0312371268/bookstorenow99-20

TT......Happy Birthday to yooooouuuuuuu...

Ping....you sat through an Obama rally just so your daughter could see Hillary.....
even if you were late..... there should be more fathers like you....

I can't wait for this election to be ova!...... while watching my beloved Patriots slaughter the Broncos last night, they kept interrupting the game for political commercials...... approve this you bunch of political junkies!....... wait a minute..... I am one...... never mind.....

that's to buy the book......there's another link to read it online but it looks too long.....I'll try it.....

http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&id=cPlLaY9k0TIC&dq=an+enormous+crime&printsec=frontcover&source=web&ots=1b0wLZQAaK&sig=xtZTkNAof6MA6r2kYvO2SKI4kHg&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=3&ct=result

“If I called all the shots, and if I could wave a magic wand,” Ms. Palin said, .......

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/21/us/politics/21palin.html?ref=us

Thank you Anon - Your post was taken as if this is a normal and much talked about Magic Wand. That Rep are trying to show an easy way.

Thanks for showing the source comment that corrects the possible misinterpretation of your out of context post.

A valid one that I am sure all Politicians would agree VP candidate Palin, that they would love to have the opportunity to connect one to one with more voters.

Thanks for clarification of your point.

Morning peeps,
Happy bday TT. Craig the blog have a technical problem, I noticed a whole bunch of posts vanished.

Anon - You know if I did not know better I would think that you have some Dixie Rebel in you.

The Obama I (Don't) Know
Chicago - "My Obama number is one. I know him through our association at the University of Chicago Law School and through mutual friends in the neighborhood. We have had one or two serious substantive discussions, and when I sent him e-mails from time to time in the early days of his Senate term, he always answered in a sensible and thoughtful fashion. And yet, for assessing the course of his likely presidency, I don't know him at all."
http://www.forbes.com/opinions/2008/10/20/obama-chicago-election-oped-cx_re_1021epstein.html

I didn't go to law school with him Chloe but I did email him and I did not write a very self serving article for Forbes Mag. But I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night.

'I never called all liberals anti-American'

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14777.html

World wide gap between rich and poor grows

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hh8ZaftBXioX8AVFItMGq8RFvj_wD93UP48O0

Was it a nice room at the Holiday Inn Express? Do they give free broadband?

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/voter-surge-signals-obama-tsun.html#comment-161441

Jason,

Why do you think HIllary has been out there working like a dog for Obama with her tag lines of "Tell Them Hillary Sent You" and "Jobs Baby Jobs".

Obama winning would be on his own merits. A landslide would be due to the generosity of people like the Clintons who decided to place the well being of the country ahead of their personal desires.

Jamie Jason is engaged in magic thinking. BTW did you hear Obama's statement about Hillary and health care yesterday? I didn't see it,but Sheila said he essentially said he intends for Hillary to head up his efforts on health care.

TECH NOTE: Sorry about anyone losing comments last night. Something weird happened and the whole post vanished for a while, had to be re-posted. Also, report any typekey problems to cqtrailmix@verizon.net -- I know Jamie was having some. Anyone else?

Jamie.
Quietly has the Bill Clinton Bill been paid?

To raise extra cash is this why Obama backed out of his promise and to tap into the Clinton supporters?

Just a thought?

Brain,,, and all... The full Obama visit can be found here
http://www.cfnews13.com/Politics/FloridaDecides/2008/10/20/obama_rallies_in_orlando.html?refresh=1

Or Here

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7686508&version=1&locale=EN-US

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/voter-surge-signals-obama-tsun.html#comment-161472

Michelle will be appearing in his place at some of the events that he had to cancel.

She and the girls visited Mrs. Dunham while they were on vacation this past summer.

Today's thread on The BackChannel Blog

Is Obama a Socialist? by dnd

http://clistersbackchannel.wordpress.com/

I wonder what the "life long Democrats" in this blog are going to do when Obama wins big... You know the ones I am talking about... Saying EVERYTHING bad about Obama and practically licking the boots of McInsane. I do wonder how they will survive....

Pong Obama didn't say he was suspending his campaign.

KGC

Here is the $.50 per person meal. @ current availible in Kansas City MO prices. You could also double the prices here if you aren't careful with your shopping

Camel Hump Stew

1 and ½ lb of cheap camel hump (If unavailable substitute 2 chicken hindquarters)
1/2 lb white beans
¼ lb lentils
½ head cabbage
3 carrots
3 stalks celery
1 onion 1/3 lb
1 bell pepper
1 can tomatoes with chilies
3 clove of garlic the size of your thumb
2 tablespoon curry powder
2 teaspoon cumin
½ teaspoon ground chipotle chilis or for mild version smoke Spanish paprika

Salt to taste

2 cups of rice

Start the beans cooking the night before, as it is just as easy to cook a pot of beans as a handful cook extra and freeze them for later use.

When the beans are soft add the chicken, lintels and spices. Cook until chicken is done remove chicken and separate skin and bones from meat and add meat back in.

Add the rest and simmer for at least an hour.

Serve the stew over rice.

Jack

It is great that Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton and others are out there campaigning. Hillary is particularly effective.

But I get nervous when anyone starts talking landslide or tsunami -- cannot take anything for granted!

Any landslide would be due to the Obama campaign's foresight in realizing they had to expand the electorate by registering and energizing hundreds of thousands of new and disengaged voters.

They have spent months and months out day to day every day talking to voters, registering new voters, working the grassroots.

But DON'T COUNT ON a landslide!! A modest and real win is fine.

Get out there and vote and remind others to vote early if at all possible.

This will be a big turnout election and polls are likely to be swamped November 4.

Get your vote safely into the bank ahead of time, if your state allows you to.

Ree,

That JB White article is interesting because of the mention of the conflict between W. E. B. DuBois and Booker T. Washington. It is sad that those two brilliant and accomplished men never really came to terms with the fact that they were both right and needed each other.

All groups need mentors, but the group itself can make accomplishments as a whole through patient hard work if given the opportunity to do so.

Jack: that looks tasty! Might have to try it. Thanks.

Well, Tom, they'll probably survive much like the lifelong Republicans who didn't like Bush and didn't vote for him.

I'm not sure I "get" who all you are aiming at. Are people no longer allowed to criticize candidates?

Plus, I haven't see much McCain boot licking.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/voter-surge-signals-obama-tsun.html#comment-161494

Given her recent statements about being in the Senate and the fact that health care has always been her baby, it makes sense that Hillary would be the point person for the legislation.

Chuck Todd was speaking of this fellow in Nevada this morning, he's an old Republican wise man in Nevada politics -

From the First Read at MSNBC

"NEVADA: Jon Ralston on the early voting in the state: “Third day exceeds second. Turnout will hit double-digits Tuesday. Democrats still have huge lead -- 40,625 -17,509. That’s 59 percent to 25 percent. (Monday it was 13,099-6,419.) In CD3, it’s 2-to-1 Democratic voter lead. Senate 5 (Heck) just under 2-to-1 Democrats; Senate 6 (Beers) about 2-to-1, too. The Democrats essentially are doubling the GOP turnout -- or more -- every day. Can they possibly keep this up?"

More from Ralston from his daily report: "Four years ago, the best the Democrats could do was to capture 46 percent of that day's early voters on any given day. This weekend: On Saturday, it was 62 percent; Sunday, it was 58 percent. Contrast that with the GOP numbers from 2004: The worst day the Republicans had was 37 percent of the early vote on any given day. On Saturday, the GOP turnout was 23 percent of the total and Sunday it was 26 percent. Yes, it's only two days. But it's the two days where - besides, perhaps, the final weekend of early voting - there will be the greatest turnout."

I posted this last night but it dissapeared in the tech glitch. It's really pretty funny when you think about it.

Ken Adelman is a lifelong conservative Republican. Campaigned for Goldwater, was hired by Rumsfeld at the Office of Economic Opportunity under Nixon, was assistant to Defense Secretary Rumsfeld under Ford, served as Reagan’s director of arms control, and joined the Defense Policy Board for Rumsfeld’s second go-round at the Pentagon, in 2001. Adelman’s friendship with Rumsfeld, Cheney, and their wives goes back to the sixties, and he introduced Cheney to Paul Wolfowitz at a Washington brunch the day Reagan was sworn in.

In recent years, Adelman and his friends Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Wolfowitz fell out over his criticisms of the botching of the Iraq War. Still, he remains a bona-fide hawk (“not really a neo-con but a con-con”) who has never supported a Democrat for President in his life. Two weeks from now that’s going to change: Ken Adelman intends to vote for Barack Obama. He can hardly believe it himself

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/georgepacker/2008/10/not-quite-colin.html

Berg: Due to Procedure, Obama & DNC Admit all Allegations

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/uncommitted-demographics-a-cam.html#comment-161418

Happy Birthday, Tiptoe. You must be figuring your age in dog years! I owe you some blogging gratitude as it was very early one morning when you showed me the path to forgiveness in politics....it involved your recent haircut and it did open my eyes and eventually my heart.

Craig....both front pages of the my local papers had early voting as the number one story. It is huge and exciting.

Glue speed, Obama.

Thanks Jack

You do mean chicken legs and not the actual chicken butt
right?

Boy,

I must still be half asleep. I've posted two messages before noticing that I have my little blue key back. It must have gotten lost in the glitch yesterday and is now back.

DUH!!!!

Brian,,, Thanks -

MSM is jumping all over "His Suspension" of the Campaign - so maybe it is the calculating of Gibbs.

Off to Puerto Rico…..

Catch up later

Berg Lawsuit
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Berg: Due to Procedure, Obama & DNC Admit all Allegations

"Still, for Berg, the issue is clear. He simply wanted answers or objections, he said, and instead received nothing. Rule 36, according to Berg, is fairly cut-and-dry.

"It all comes down to the fact that there's nothing from the other side," Berg said. "The admissions are there. By not filing the answers or objections, the defense has admitted everything. He admits he was born in Kenya. He admits he was adopted in Indonesia. He admits that the documentation posted online is a phony. And he admits that he is constitutionally ineligible to serve as president of the United States."

http://www.americasright.com/2008/10/berg-obama-dnc-admit-all-allegations.html

brit fun with economics (just seen tho month old)
http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2008/09/british_television_explains_th.html#c95149351

Patsi, I don't mind criticism, but I do object when "good Democrats" keep jumping for joy over anything good about Palin or McInsane and do the same "happy dance" on anything negative about Obama. And the ones who say they will vote for McInsane, well it is their right of course, but Obama's positions are mainstream Democratic Party positions. We Hillary supporters were very angry and had the right to be. I can fully understand remaining angry over the media and the Obama campaign's actions during the primary. I cannot comprehend using that as a reason to sing praises over McInsane's candidacy and that of the Powerpuff Girl. I have a close lesbian friend in Florida. She recently wrote this to me:

"If you ever get it, I would like find out what he [my ex-boyfriend Rick] thinks of Palin. She is on SNL with Tina Fey this weekend. I wish she and Hillary were on the same ticket. I am disappointed you are so easily manipulated by the media and subcumbed to Obamania. I am still pissed with the 1/2 primary vote for Hillary that the Obama Club gave me in Florida where votes never count.
Lissa"

We have never had an argument til recently. I can understand the anger and share it, but I can't see any reason why a lesbian, a gay man, or any fair minded person would be voting for a party with a VP candidate who will push for a constitutional amendment to make marriage only for a man and a woman, and by so, codify discrimination into the U.S. constitution.

That's what I meant for what it's worth, and there have been a few in here whom have finally made me snap and in the process, I suddenly become persona non-gratia, even referred to as going "Brianesque" in my posts which should now be ignored.

So some people whom I thought were friends here are really not and I've made friends with people who I never considered myself to be friends with but with whom I am.

And.. Patsi, your criticisms have been pretty fair in my book. You've always made it clear that if there was a chance of Obama taking Tennessee you'd vote Dem, otherwise cast your vote for a strong woman candidate, that being Cynthia McKinney. I have nothing but utmost respect for this wise consideration!

And I love you still !

Andrew Sullivan post with great picture of Obama's grandparents, Stanley and Madeline Dunham.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/10/his-last-parent.html

Hope Mrs. Dunham has good quality of life for time remaining to her, and especially hope that she lives to see her wonderful grandson elected and inaugurated -- at the very least.

She did some very hard work, raising him while he was a teenager searching out his identity and future. She was a real inspiration to him too, becoming a bank VP through work and persistence and determination (and need -- she was family breadwinner).

This at a time when women did not commonly hold executive or middle management positions and "Toot" was without a college degree. She was a trailblazer too.

God bless her.

Odd bit of speculation. I know some families don't take many photographs as mine is one of them, but when the opportunity presented itself to grab a four generation photo, we grabbed it.

It does strike me as odd that there doesn't seem to be at least one of Senator Obama with his grandmother after his wedding, and none of his daughters with their great grandmother. There is a photo *of his girls with his sister and her husband. Mrs. Dunham appeared in one of his commercials.

Has anyone seen a picture that I might have missed?

I also want to say, for the record, that Brian has been largely spot on with much of his commentaries and is an intelligent participant in the political debate. I used to really dislike him, but once I got beyond some of his more jugular slicing posts, I saw that he is often a person of wisdom. Not excusing the excesses, but I don't think people should toss away everything he say. And if we do object to treating people poorly, we shouldn't do it to him either.

JMHO...

GORDO on the other hand....

Ah well, I sort of like conspiracy theorists even when they are just parroting what others are writing or saying. Frankly, I don't think I would take the word of someone called "Texas Darlin'" or her website, to be a conclusive source for Obama's apparently Manchurian candidacy.

Dog, is it just me, or is Barack the spittin' image of his grandfather????

Martin Lawsuit
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From TD Blog:

" ... Martin was scheduled to file an emergency petition with the Hawaii Supreme Court to “release Barack Obama’s family records,” including his “birth certificate and related records.”

We can think of no reasonable cause for denying the public — the electorate, those who will be served by the President — the ability to examine documentation of birth and citizenship for a person standing for the highest office in the land. Especially since 1) reasonable doubt has been raised about this candidate’s eligibility and 2) there appears to be no formal process for vetting eligibility in advance of a candidacy."

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/10/21/obama-goes-to-hawaii/

KGC

legs thigh and back.

They sell them by the 10lb bag frozen. cheapest meat around. I use them for my chicken stock. Just put the stock in the frig so the fat hardens and skim it off.

When you buy that rotisserie chicken because it is a hard day and you are too tired to cook. Don't through away the carcass, after you have stripped the meat off put the skin and bones in a pot and make a very tasty broth to use in you cooking. I save a few of my yogurt containers and freeze it in them.

Back to my bookwork.

Jack

ET,

I wonder how all the Obama supporters here will feel (assuming that he wins) when he will not or cannot deliver on all the stuff he has promised. Or better yet he starts doing stuff that he never talked about.

Threadlock

Today from blistersyeahbutchannel

We are all socialists now!
Than you George W. Bush and Wall Street.

Wow..... ET....
I was just trying to lighten up a bad moment for you.....
I don't take any of this stuff too seriously..... it's only a blog.....

back to my work too......

had a special showing at a gallery this past weekend...... I was surprised at how well I did..... people are still buying....

McCain keeps using the line, "America didn't become the great nation it is by spreading the wealth around."

That is an out and out lie. What in the hell does he think the GI Bill following WWII did? Men and women who would never has aspired to college all expenses paid not only went but actually received a stipend that allowed them to live while doing so. It gave us one of the highest rates of college graduation in the world.
Courtesy of Republicans we now have one of the lowest of developed nations. Those young college graduates then got generous VA loans to buy small homes in suburbs in which to raise their families.

I think some more spreading is in order.

Bowman: If Obama is elected, he will face the worst set of circumstances since the Depression, will he not? With our troops at war in two countries, too.

Compromise and achieving what you CAN is adult and the best way to progress.

Obama is a pragmatist and not the socialist liberal you might fear.

And I agree with you on one point -- I don't want to see a Democratic Congress and president steamroll the country either -- one party rule has its hazards, ably demonstrated by GWBush.

This country is probably center-right now; plenty of work that can be done that will sit fine with that. (Access to healthcare; shoring up our financial system through prudent practice and better oversight; engaging America in green technology R&D; developing good jobs in this country for our kids and selves....and Joe the Plumber)

Obama is not the scary guy you fear.

Renee thank you for saying that. I felt bad, like you hated me suddenly. I feel better now, really :) ... and it's time for me to get less serious I guess.

Bow, everyone knows that he can't deliver everything. Name a President who has been able to. He would not only need filibuster-proof majorities in the U.S. Senate and even then he would be dealing with Dems from various political leanings from far left to pretty much right, and also regional differences among the Dems, especially in the House. All he can do is try and if the Congress stands in his way, at least he will be able to say he didn't throw the ideas away, but was stymied by other politicians with their own agendas.

Ok logging off for now.

Gosh -- Tom is right!

Look at the photo from Andrew Sullivan link -- Obama looks SO much like his grandfather Dunham.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/10/his-last-parent.html

Ah, the death throes of the McCain campaign. Today, it's socialism. Tomorrow, it'll be "Remember the Maine!" Boy, it will be beautiful on November 5th, not just because Obama is going to win, but I know that we won't have to hear Sarah Palin/McCain's voice for another two and a half years.

I know those few narrow minded bigots among us are mad because I won't fall 'in line' with one side or the other. It's been like that all my life. I don't conform well enough to suit people and the interests they're promoting. That seems to make a certain type of person mad. Hence, the hate directed my way.

But, if I haven't changed by now, then you can bet I never will. So they can say what they want. It's meaningless to me, except in telling me what kind of person they are.

And it doesn't matter to me who wins this election, because the same people will be running this country.

I know what to say to make all of you happy. It doesn't take a genius to learn the rules. But you'll never hear it from me.

dev,

You are projecting, I don't fear liberals, most of my family are self proclaimed liberals. Do I agree with Obama's program? very little. And I don't think that he is going to be able to make all the stuff that he is saying he will do happen. Plus escalating the war in Afghanistan (as he has suggested he will do) with it probably spilling over into Pakistan would be a big mistake. That part I do fear, no doubt.

Chloe,

If what you wrote is true, we all still don't care.

"I suddenly become persona non-gratia, "

Not gonna happen Tom! You are NEVER not appreciated. Once in a while you get excited, and so do many of us. The way of the play.

As far as your lesbian friend....I have several gay and lesbian friends who are sitting this out, or voting McCain. I think I have convinced the McCain voters that with McCain ahead in TN by almost twenty points, he doesn't need their vote....that they'd be better off casting their votes for Cynthia McKinney and Rosa Clemente. I wish to hell we had viable parties other than the two we have.

I'm surprised Larry Flint didn't include McKinney/Clemente in his Palin-porn flick, "Who's Nailin' Palin." He supposedly DID include Hillary and Condaleeza Rice. It's open season on women.

Jamie- haven't seen such a family photo. I could be wrong but seem to remember that during the Obama's hawaiian vacation only Obama and the girls visited the grandmother? I just know at the time that their visiting schedule struck me as odd and that perhaps Michelle and the grandmother aren't close.

Jack- Thanks for the recipe, the spices looks like a neat alternative to our old yankee stews. The island is totally dead now and with the harsh winter predicted, it looks like I'll be needing those cheap eat recipes to get through this winter. Keep em coming!

ET,

Are you guys already pulling back and setting expectations lower for a potential Obama administration?

That is not change we can believe in, that's the same old crap all the poiticicans do. I am getting disillusioned already. You cannot end the honeymoon before the wedding.

Senate race tied in KY!

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollTrack.aspx?g=b7cb88d3-c9ec-4134-8dc7-f6b2ded0be6e

Bowmanc I wonder how you and your party will feel now that you won't be able to get a parking ticket fixed once we have a filibuster proof senate?

Thanks Mr. D.
But I already knew that.

"It does strike me as odd that there doesn't seem to be at least one of Senator Obama with his grandmother after his wedding, and none of his daughters with their great grandmother."Jamie@10:15 am

It seems hinky to me. Perhaps an estrangement with granddaughter-in-law?

Chloe wrote: "I won't fall 'in line' with one side or the other. It's been like that all my life. I don't conform well enough to suit people and the interests they're promoting."

And Mr. D (using the Royal WE) said "we still don't care."

Chloe -- at least you wouldn't have been a candidate for EST, which I believe quite a few here might have been. (I can say that because a friend of mine in the '70s was some big deal in EST and convinced me to go. I got kicked out quickly. As would you have, Chloe.)

We have free parking where I live and work. Try not to see everything through your New York City kaleidoscope.

Hey Chloe, how are you? I'm not often on as the same time as you. You're all right Chloe, don't change, I like you just the way you are!

Jack ---thanks for the tips----will add these to list that i have come up with for my workers,really like the carcass idea-------us mexicalies go a little far some times though,,,,,,i was cought red handed trying to bbq pinto beans with a net,,lol

what can we say, chloe.

You are an iconoclast, a maverick, with an intelligence as wide as the whole universe.

And this odd habit of shouting out to seahag and rita and julie young and anyone else who puts up some really rough stuff on occasion: you are missed! Your voice is needed!!

But you only put up posts like that to some people. And it's kind of -- well, predictable.

Must be that non-conformist streak of yours.

Chloe, if that was directed at me, save it for someone who cares.

And just to save you the hassle of taking my words and twisting them to fit your own barb, here it is for you... save you the trouble.

Et if that was directed at me, save it for someone who cares.

... Now, I got a suggestion... Since we clearly dislike each other... STRONGLY, I suggest we do not communicate.

Martin Lawsuit
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Hawai'i Supreme Court Petition

SUPREME COURT DOCKET NUMBER: 29414

EMERGENCY PETITION FOR WRIT OF MANDAMUS

"If Obama has posted a version of his birth certificate, it would appear he has waived any privacy issues and the statutory restrictions on issuance of a copy to Petitioner no longer apply.

It is indeed a very peculiar state as now exists where Obama claims he has released his birth certificate or at least his latest version of the document, and yet claims that no one should be able to obtain an official copy of the same document from the State of Hawai’i or review the source information for the certificate. Waiver would appear to be applicable and render nugatory any privacy concerns.

Obama has claimed he was born in a Honolulu hospital, but there is no verifiable evidence to sustain that claim. An examination of birth records is thus essential to resolve the lingering doubts."

http://contrariancommentary.blogspot.com/2008/10/hawaii-supreme-court-petition-andy.html

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/voter-surge-signals-obama-tsun.html#comment-161542

Like any of this is any of your business. A man is off to go see a dieing loved on and you try to spin it against him, amazingly disgusting!

Dog's eye view- - I don't put up rough stuff. I have a few times defended myself and others from vicious attacks. I don't make the attacks and have told that poster repeatedly to leave me out of that twisted game.

Chloe-----if you change i will never read what you have to say again, no more, never,,us indis are not the gentle herd type, but the hard to lasoooooo type ,ps thanks for keeping me company last debate night ,

Bow, I am a Democrat. After a lot of soul-searching I am supporting the Democratic candidate. If you think someone else can do better with the Congress to fulfill their entire agenda, one which the US people agree with, may I suggest you tell us who it is?

"Are you guys already pulling back and setting expectations lower for a potential Obama administration?"

Yep.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/voter-surge-signals-obama-tsun.html#comment-161543

Patsi, That gives me a flashback laugh. One of my former bosses said, "I am so glad you were never in EST. My last assistant was and every time she had something to "share", it meant I did the work and she didn't!"

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/voter-surge-signals-obama-tsun.html#comment-161550

Oh lighten up Brian. It wasn't a negative. It was good old fashioned curiosity and nosiness. I just wondered why.

I think it is wonderful that he is going to be with her in what is probably her final illness, and genuinely hope whe will get the opportunity to see him elected President.

my high expectations were for Hillary. For Barack, it is the Democratic agenda that he pretty much espouses and which are in line with my values. With the checks and balances system in our government it isn't easy to get everything through that politicians want to implement. This was true for Bill Clinton and would have been just as true for Hillary. Nonetheless, the change that Barack offers is hands-down better than the crap we've endured under the Bush critter. Politics can be a very cynical sport and I've always been disappointed when someone I have rooted for has not been able to implement the agenda presented to the people. Such as the health care reform under President Clinton. He and Hillary fought for it, FORCIBLY and still lost. Does that make them less that what they promised to be? I think not. If Barack is not able to break through the vested interests in the Congressional branh, will it make him less of a change advocate than what he professed to be? I would have to say no.

Nonetheless, I've been around this game long enough and my expectations are not that high to begin with. But as I have said before, I'd have higher expectations for a Nutella Jar as candidate, than what we've endured under the existing corrupt administration.

Patsi, someone got me to go to one of those meetings. By then they changed the name to something like "the forum". Those people scared the bejeezus out of me, and let me tell you, it wasn't easy to get out of the sales pitch that went on after the presentation either. I can barely remember it, but it was something like "if you want it to happen, you will have the money to make it happen"... I couldn't understand that. I was a student on financial aid and struggling to make ends meet, and they kept saying that I was using money as an excuse to say no because if I want it to happen, I will have the money to make it happen.

Ugh

Happy Birthday to Tiptoe!

You wear that century-plus well.

It sure was nice to see the narrow minded bigots knew exactly who they were (DEV and ET, now waiting for Torpedo)

What i expect from Obama---------nada, not if pelosi and reid, and the rest of the ones that are going to pull the strings don't want him to (i hope O is what they have been waiting for----can they do their jobs then?),,,but if he does attempt to do any thing that he has promised, he should try it right way like Bush did, there is a lot of stuff to reverse.

re: high expectations:

mine were higher for Obama, because he realized the urgency of growing the electorate and bringing more people on board and moving forward through a developed consensus.

BUT: I will be happy if we just get our country back and on the right track.

That would seem to be an administration of work right there.

I do think we are going to see some progress on healthcare access: businesses will be better able to compete with a healthier and more stable workforce.

We are playing in a global economy and our citizens deserve good healthcare. We are one of the wealthiest nations ever. That so many of our citizens go without healthcare -- or go into bankruptcy if they need emergency surgery or have a desperately ill family member -- is a national shame.

Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_Y50hE5ri8

chloe: you called me a troll and new to the blog too, remember?

That was not any more accurate.

Jamie can remind you.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/voter-surge-signals-obama-tsun.html#comment-161560

Are you feeling better now Chloe? Name calling always does seem a shortcut way to make one feel superior.

Buh bye!

Tom and Jamie -- Yes -- the EST crowd was very weird. The woman I knew also said "share" a lot, ROFL. And Tom -- you hit it on the head about the "found money" thing. I hadn't heard that much about the "experience" and I think I believed it to be some sort of management training/motivational seminar. Whoa! Was I ever wrong. Wack jobbery.

After that first little "preview" I questioned some of the BS they were spouting and was told that questioning the philosophy wasn't acceptable. I asked, "What philosophy? This sounds like crap to me." Oops. The woman I knew was so embarrassed.

Patsi, they SCARED me... really. I wasn't sure I was going to get out of that room without a fight. LOL... hugs.

Chloe -- go ahead and say exactly what you want to say. This is a freedom of speech blog....supposedly.

I'm heading out again, and I am backing down. No matter how I feel about someone, I need to not engage. It's not good for the blog and not good for me. So I extend sincere apologies and I am off to watch the 4400 ...

Bye for now.

EST grew out of Scientology as the founder of EST carried off a lot of the business and interpersonal relationshp formulae and dropped all the religious, outer space stuff to create that combination of motivation as cult scenario.

Still very, very strange.

"they SCARED me... really. I wasn't sure I was going to get out of that room without a fight. LOL"

They had that fine-tuned....one thing I remember was the guy walking around the room getting people to stand up and confess some horrible thing that had hurt them....and he kept trying to get people to cry. I was thinking, "Oh, puhleeze..." when he walked right up to me sitting on the end of a row and badgered me about standing up. I told him I wasn't Catholic, and had no confession to make.

I also thought I might have to fight my way out.

"motivation as cult scenario."

ROFL! Exactly, Jamie!

Barack Obama is holding a slight lead on John McCain in Indiana, 48-
46, according to the newest survey from Public Policy Polling.

Obama’s lead in the state is being fueled largely by voter concern about the economy.
60% of respondents list it as their biggest issue when deciding who to vote for this fall,
and the Democrat has a 59-34 lead with that segment of the electorate.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_Indiana_1021398.pdf

Berg Lawsuit
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"Berg stated that he filed Requests for Admissions on September 15, 2008 with a response by way of answer or objection had to be served within thirty [30] days. No response to the Requests for Admissions was served by way of response or objection. Thus, all of the Admissions directed to Obama and the DNC are deemed “ADMITTED.”

OBAMA - Admitted: (1) - (56)

DNC - Admitted: (1) - (27)

Berg again stressed his position regarding the urgency of this case as, “we” the people, are heading to a “Constitutional Crisis” if this case is not resolved forthwith."

http://www.obamacrimes.com/index.php/component/content/article/1-main/38-press-release-obama-a-dnc-admit-all-allegations-in-berg-v-obama

ETom.... I could never hate you.....

Chloe..... I LOVE your spirit..... I'd rather sit down and have a conversation with you..... ideologues who spout the same old tired talking points on either side are sooooooo boring to me.....

I honestly don't see how the division in this country will come to heal...... yes I know the Republicans started it....... but I don't see very many Democrats that are acting mature enough to end it......

I agree with Craig..... the powers that be are sleeping very soundly no matter which of the candidates win the presidency, IMO.....

but I'm still voting to throw the bums out!

tt,
Many happy returns of the day.

Jamie,
Werner Erhardt's EST was a rigorous method for learning to live one's life out of one's intentions, rather than out of one's circumstances. Philosophically, it owes a great deal to phenomonology and Buddhist. Over a couple of decades, EST evolved into the Landmark Forum, which is highly respected as a training tool by many businesses.

"..., because he realized the urgency of growing the electorate and bringing more people on board and moving forward through a developed consensus."

Dog, I was going to say, "Surely you jest.", but that would be off-putting. Instead, here's how I feel. I clearly see a different Mr Obama than you.

His growing of the electorate seems more like 'let's all go to a party, it'll be a blast' rather than a reasoned assumption of civic responsibilities--the latter involving lots of issue-oriented education.

I don't see a bottoms-up consensus having been developed--if it had, we would surely have genuine universal healthcare as the single most important social issue. Instead, we have some watered down version where the true victors will be the established insurance and medical interests.

As I've said before, I'm a traditional Eleanor Roosevelt Democrat--that will never change. I feel tremendously letdown by the current direction of Democratic politics.

No more McCain/Palin for another 2 1/2 years...
The sad thing is, this is just the beginning for her. She'll have more time as gov and a veep nom/campaign under her belt. The base loves her and I can envision Palin/Huckabee signs already. Yikes? You betcha!

XR

The business precepts of L Ron Hubbard in Scientology are excellent methods of increasing effectiveness in one's life. It doesn't surprise me at all that EST would morph into something used by business today.

Of course all of it was stolen and/or resurrected from Frank Gilbreth (and many others0 who probably got most of his ideas from observation, common sense and history. Of course he had 12 children to test his theories (Cheaper By The Dozen).

"Eleanor Roosevelt Democrat"

Wonderful thought!!!!

Spike -- Have you seen this Krugman column about McCain backers manipulating Intrade?

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/17/manipulating-the-future/

Palin should scare the hell out of anyone. She is an extremely effective speaker who either has the ability to spout talking points with absolutely no concept of what they mean or the ability to lie through her teeth for her own personal gain.

Could there be a trues sign that the apocalypse is upon us?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-young/west-hollywood-considers_b_136422.html

Blue, gas in Burleson is $2.25 today

Joe the plumber first. Now we have Tito the Builder, Claire the nurse, Mary the teacher .... etc. All named off from signs at a Palin speech.

Someone should explain serfdom to these people and how most of them got their last names in a time when the gap between the wealthy and the workers was similar to what we are becoming now.

Gas prices are depressed until after the election, just like 4 years ago.

You will notic