Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

Who Who Me Me?

Fascinating video. How many other previously solid Republican Congressional seats are likely to fall simply because they had become too entrenched and now there is an opportunity for things to change?

With all the talk of education or lack of it, common man vs. snob, and those the various campaigns are attracting, I posted this link to an old blog article on the back channel

http://jdurward.blogspot.com/2006/08/whale-sang-opera.html

It seems as if the US is getting very lazy and that education and achievement are not getting the respect they should particularly in an era of global economy. How long has it been since you needed to look up the definition of a word used on TV or in the movies?

“You have not tried to find Barack Obama’s drug dealer”
by Greta Van Susteren

"Gloves are off ….Big Time!!! Look for blood on the floor!! Mrs. McCain’s lawyer fires off a letter to the New York Times! See the letter to Keller of the New York Times below:"

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/10/18/you-have-not-tried-to-find-barack-obamas-drug-dealer/#comment-2506254

If Elected... How Would President Obama Govern?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081018/ap_on_el_pr/if_elected_obama

If Elected...How Would President McCain Govern?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081018/ap_on_el_pr/if_elected_mccain;_ylt=AlP24rHSJZ5Z6ZLM0jcDIP6s0NUE

Levi Stubbs is dead. Considering how much he and his company helped in bringing about peaceful integration, it is a pity he could not live long enough to see the inauguration of President Obama.

Stubbs leaves legacy of sound:

http://www.freep.com/article/20081018/ENT04/810180372

The Hill has a pretty good rundown on vulnerable goopers

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/democratic-challengers-strong-in-third-quarter-house-reports-2008-10-16.html

Even Patrick McHenry in the safest gooper district in the country is at a cash disadvantage.

People hate George Bush and his gooper enablers.

Ohio 16 first time in generations - a Democrat.

I have never been to Staten Island. I've taken the round trip on the Ferry many times ..especially when it used to be a nickel

From TD Blog:
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Barry tells the Masses: “We’re Going to Change the World!”

"How so?

By using his Kenyan citizenship to help Cousin Odinga, the ethnic cleanser, promote Sharia Law, and ensure safe harbor for anti-American terrorists in African countries?

By trading the human rights of West Papuans in exchange for disappearing his Indonesian citizenship?

By capitalizing on his relationship with Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, who proclaimed that Obama is "The Messiah" ..."

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/10/18/barry-tells-the-masses-were-going-to-change-the-world/

Honestly, Gordo, I love a good conspiracy theory as much as anyone, but some of this is grasping at straws. If I was related to Hitler(which I don't think I am, but who really knows), it would not be my choice, but what could I do about it? A good conspiracy theory has threads of connection that goes beyond the cosmic prankster.

"By trading the human rights of West Papuans in exchange for disappearing his Indonesian citizenship?"

ROFL! You've out-tinfoiled yourself with this one, Gordo. Those zany West Papuans....

Or are you one of those agents of misinformation set out by the shadow government to insure that no one will take any theory seriously? Just who are you working for, GORDO?

Jamie - you always boil it down to the point...

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/video-trail-mix-obamas-white-b.html#comment-160450

How about Americans are getting lazy, more about self then community, a cell phone in every pocket?

The choice is very clear this election - well if you can get past the noise and smoke and mirrors.

Newspaper Endorsements

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003875230

Ping

Were you planning on sending all the women home so that they could work for free again?

Like it or not, taxes now pay for the work they used to do for nothing.

Do you even know who you are working for?

Bad bad bad media
"Bad Press

I agree with Glenn that the New York Times story about the McCains really is pretty bad. There are two ways to think about something like this, whether it fits in with the press's usual standards for these things and what those standards should be. As Glenn says, given the treatment of the Clintons by the NYT it apparently does fit within the standards they've set for themselves, but those standards have gotten pretty low.

One thing will be probably be different for this story probably Unlike such stories about the Clintons, this one won't drive cable news coverage for a week. More than that it'll probably be largely condemned and used to accuse the NYT of that evil librul bias."
http://www.eschatonblog.com/2008_10_12_archive.html#4066622668953399806

http://www.johnmccain.com/supporters/newspapers.htm

Jamie - that is so sexist.

Gordo - you are of no help and feed the BS machine of Barack. By putting non relevant elements the far right is helping Barack, helping him hide from the fact that he is very Liberal and has socialist views. Period.

Gordo - and those that feed the extreme must stop

rosiethecat ----------------------

"Kenyan insiders say Obama was part of takeover strategy"

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/video-trail-mix-obamas-white-b.html#comment-160278
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"Senator Barack Obama and Prime Minister Raila Odinga have been in direct contact since Senator Obama's visit to Kenya in 2006."

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/video-trail-mix-obamas-white-b.html#comment-160283

Blonde Who -
You know I was a toe head blond at one time!

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/video-trail-mix-obamas-white-b.html#comment-160454

you over simplfy and need to connect the economic dots.
Ummm I wonder who pays the majority of the tax already?
Ummm How can Barack give 90 something percent a tax decrease when almost 50% already pay nothing?

Sadly extreme elements of the right have not asked the correct questions and allowing these spin and half truth statements of Barack to carry the day....

and sadly Blone - you feel for his failed math.

But still time -

Brain - the polls in florida are showing McCain is turning the corner.

From what I hear some show him ahead , but most show the tide is turning,

Maybe youth is premature?

Elwyn Tinklenberg

Two hours on a Saturday :

660 people gave $ 29,334 that's an average of $44.45 each

3,727
Supporters

$156,230
Raised

At this time yesterday Tinklenberg had raised $2,500 on his Act Blue page.

http://www.actblue.com/entity/fundraisers/18660

Floridians are getting the truth now.

Barack on illegals, OK McCain is no star but safer then Barack

Barack's misinformation (Why his ads spend more time attacking now McCain then telling his story) is starting to backfire.

McCain can win Florida

Patsi -----------------------------

"How far did Obama go to scrub Indonesia of his records? That depends. How many oppressed West Papauns were tossed into the trash heap of history?"

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/video-trail-mix-obamas-white-b.html#comment-160497
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"What is the current status of Obama’s Indonesian citizenship? Was it ever repudiated? If so, when? "

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/video-trail-mix-obamas-white-b.html#comment-160507

Craig on MSNBC Sunday (10/18)

Craig, today is the 18th.

Recent Florida Polls

* McCain (R) 49%, Obama (D) 47% - Oct 17 SurveyUSA
* Obama (D) 51%, McCain (R) 46% - Oct 15 CNN
* Obama (D) 48%, McCain (R) 44% - Oct 15 InsiderAdvantage
* Obama (D) 47%, McCain (R) 42% - Oct 15 Datamar
* Obama (D) 51%, McCain (R) 46% - Oct 13 Rasmussen

Brain, Read the polls !!

McCain also picked up more endorsement - Tampa Trib - which is more independent then the liberal (sorry CQ) St Pete Times.

Ping

Fine with me. The guys can go home and work for free instead.

Ping

Here is the Real Clear poll of polls on Florida

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/fl/florida_mccain_vs_obama-418.html

Thanks Anon.
McCain can win Florida.

Sorry Gordo - but we must get the basics and facts out. sending crap out is what Barack wants people to do... That is easy to deflect and defend.

Ask solid questions....

As I asked earlier - Which no one has answered from my AM Post

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/video-trail-mix-obamas-white-b.html#comment-160444

Yup Jamie - Exactly my point...
Mark the date - Oct 13th was the peak point for Obama in Florida

Jamie did respond to a position on Charitbles.
Which Jamie points to Government need ...

I think Americans can do better and many do very well today.

Government is not the answer

THE ANSWER -

I am not a demographic that Barack needs to pander to and would be difficult to change.

So they did the research - found some values and numbers that made sense and could be political marketing material...

Then Barack and co went on a simple message that is not consistant and helps him hide his liberal self.

But if he really keeps the CHANGE going and you think you can trust his words - afterall he as to stop his change some time,,, then vote for him

Ping

Any of your charitable contributions to your community are tax deductible. Obama wasn't going to take that away from you. You certainly won't be penalized for donating your time. Were you planning to hire and pay for the people who do not have the time or money to do the same so that taxes didn't have to cover their services for when you can't be around?

When you stop the incentives - who is going to pay the bill? -- who pays it now?

Who is going to create the jobs?

Barack and big Government? Oh my no way...

Hope that either Barack really does change - or that the American People figure out the FUNDAMENTALS of Capitalism / Free Enterprise - when not disrupted by Government policy as in the Housing crap - are the answer - Not an Obama of Big Government

At the state level, we have some interesting numbers on both sides. SurveyUSA is the first pollster in a couple weeks to give McCain in Florida; they have him ahead there 49-47. On the other hand, SurveyUSA has yet to show Obama with a lead in Florida all year, so this may not be as newsworthy as it seems at first glance.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/10/todays-polls-1017.html

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/staten-islands-strange-politic.html#comment-160553

If that was the peak, then the slide down the mountain to election day should happen rapidly. Obama win no Florida recount this year.

Alicia,

Do you live in the real VA or the unreal one? Just heard a McCain surrogate on tv talking about the "real" VA. Last week, the McCain folks had the state divided up into commie and non commie. My guess next week it will be pro-American vs anti-american VA. I'm so confused lol

Jamie - I along with the Majority of Donors - Manage my resources -
Under a Barack plan he wants to manage my resources - Sorry that is just wrong.
My dollars are much more effective in my local community -
My dollars for my local community and Church will be less as Barack will take them...

That is sad

Ping

I am so glad that you make more than a quarter of a million a year and are able to make generous donations to your home community in the company of other equally generous and altruistic human beings.

Continuing proof that some human beings can be real jerks and should probably be tossed out of the gene pool.

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-odd/20081017/ODD.Missing.Camel/

Obama Rally Draws 100,000 in Missouri

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/10/18/obama-rally-draws-100000-in-missouri/

Love ya Jamie -
It is very simple and you are right on....

If you want a big government to keep growing and controlling the choice has never been more clear. Vote for Barack

The End of Opus

http://www.salon.com/books/feature/2008/10/18/opus/

The cost of living in a civil and just society is expensive.

The Salt Lake paper complained that "out of nowhere, and without proper vetting, the impetuous McCain picked Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate. She quickly proved grievously underequipped to step into the presidency should McCain, at 72 and with a history of health problems, die in office. More than any single factor, McCain's bad judgment in choosing the inarticulate, insular and ethically challenged Palin disqualifies him for the presidency.

This was on 20/20 last night.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=6048937&page=1

Thanks Rez -

"Barack Obama attracted 100,000 people at a Saturday rally here, his biggest crowd ever at a U.S. event."

Spontaneous order!

As you can see I strongly support the Free Enterprise, Capitalistic, everyone is entitled to contribute, do something for their country (like JFK said).. And we must have laws that drive and protect these values.

We must have accountability

To many people chase the ice truck only because as a society we are creating a dependent class of people - teach them to fish - show more respect - don’t just throw em a fish.

OK jump on this as one of those class statements. But get your sociology facts in order

JFK - would he be a republican now - Ask not ..... I wait for Barack to claim this statement...

A Rasmussen poll released on Friday shows Obama leading in Missouri 52% to 46% for McCain.

Ping better get some more fingers for that dike down in Fla.

Brain - point to my statements on Ayers.. Please that is a Barack tactic to deflect....

Agreed - I have always said Pelosi, Reed and Frank gotta go.... Just as the pretend Republicains got theirs in 06,,,

Who among this blog would defend that group?

Will MSM Report on Louis Farrakhan Declaration of Obama as the Messiah?

"Imagine the excitement of the mainstream media if they had discovered that some preacher up in Alaska had declared Sarah Palin to be like a deity? Well, the same basic thing happened when the Supreme Minister of the Nation of Islam, Louis Farrakhan, declared Barack Obama to be a messiah as you can see in this video. I believe this messianic pronouncement by Farrakhan was made last February but the video was uploaded to YouTube just yesterday."

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/10/09/will-msm-report-louis-farrakhan-declaration-obama-messiah

Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OowxMcVTjTE

"But most of life is governed by spontaneous order. People choose their jobs, hobbies, lovers, recreation and most of the best things in life, not the government."

"The moral: Intuition leads us to think that complex problems require centrally planned solutions, but political decision-making is rarely the answer. Life works best when we govern ourselves."

From that 20/20 article

Anon,,, I keep trying to plug the holes but AP is behind me with an Axe !!!! And some of the far right wingers are not helping to plug the holes....

"We must have accountability"

You'll want to start with Bush.

Oh that's right, accountability for everyone but the wingers.

Brain - so we are both consistant....

Have you done your homework on what happens when you allow social policy to overrule sound fiscal policy?

Ahhh you are living the example right now.... Big Government disrupting the natural flow -
Now the correction..

So you want to keep that direction.... Oh My

Can you plant a garden to grow your own food in NYC?

McCain has called loud and clear to review, leads the way. Also calls for Accountability.

What has Barack said? Uh Oh

Your accountability is rather like your sex-ed policies, neither work very well.

I thought Obama was supposed to lead the post partisan era
where blame is not important and moving forward is what counts.

Gotta head out.... finish my chores

And of course as all can see - the choice is clear.

Barack = Big Government, will continue to allow social policy to overrule sound fiscal policy - like Bush

McCain = Fiscal Conservative

Choice is Clear

Obama - Bring tax burden back into balance while supporting the economic engine of the middle class

McCain - Continue double decade predatory attack on the middle class by corporations.

Anon?
The liberal position to allow 15 year olds to gain access without even parental awareness much less approval has greatly contributed. But hey just another place that the Government (Mostly Dems and Liberals) have taken away my parental rights...

Help me understand why Barack and liberals take my parental rights away?

Look for a comprehensive study that gets past simple correlative data

Ping I might bite on that if you hadn't been telling us the same thing about Bush when you rolled in here .

corey,

http://spontaneousorder.blogspot.com/

Choice is clear.

Barack continues policy that will drive jobs out of the US, Tax Policy that does not encourage business to develop in the US. That hides and runs from his Liberal positions to pander for votes

McCain = Policy that creates incentives, that does not see corp America as Evil, That still protects the 40 some percent that pay nothing,,, That is more honest about his position

Oh that's right Palin did such swell job with her girl.

Brain - I work for a large global company that has choice,
First I do not see Corp America as evil as Barack may not say but by his behavior.
Small Business along with Corp America create jobs, not the Fed.

And yes it is bad policy - and the pretend republicans that did run up the bills along with the Dems. Bush traded out for something - and now look back and all he did was complacent and allow this social policy to overule sound fiscal policy - which is by fact what Barack is selling

Yep Ping you're a real pioneer.

Anon - got the clue..... keep it under the covers

McCain = Fiscal Conservative
Then he'll want to give us tax payers back the money for those 2 jets he crashed because he let them stall .

Ping Pong ------------------

"And some of the far right wingers are not helping to plug the holes...."

I'm not. Now a PUMA. Have never (not even once) voted Repub.

"OMG Palin is bringing her baby onto stage at campaign rallies, this woman is disgusting. "

Erase the hate week

Another Out of touch Republican,

Not sure of his name, but youngish guy somewhere in his 30s. "COlin Powell's endorsement would be a good one day story for whomever gets it, but I don't see what constituency he would bring with it."

Numb Numb, try about half of the military that still really trust and honor the man.

Gordo,

So who will you be voting for this time, or are you just skipping the whole thing since you can't support the Democrat.

We do not hate babies. We do not LIKE babies.

BREAKING: Obama Land Deal with Rezko and Mutual Bank Subject of New Court Complaint

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/18/breaking-obama-land-deal-with-rezko-and-mutual-bank-subject-of-new-court-complaint/
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Batchelor: What Is Rezko Talking About?

http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/10/18/batchelor-what-is-rezko-talking-about/

Torn Between Obama and McCain

"I suspect that there are many voters like me, in this city and around the country, wavering in their choice for president. This doesn't necessarily mean we fit the caricature of the "undecided voter" often derided as either lazy or unthinking. It means instead that we find the entire campaign--the debates, the commercials, the press coverage--counterproductive to making a decision.

.........So who will I and the other Americans like me vote for? I'm not sure: I can only say that the choice will likely have little to do with specific tax proposals or subsidy programs, and much more to do with the ways in which we see ourselves as citizens and voters."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/10/torn_between_obama_and_mccain.html

Hell, I thought that crook Rezko was in jail already.

From TD Blog:
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Queen Michelle’s $450 Snack

"While husband Barack was in a meeting — no doubt discussing how to degrade and taunt Joe-the-Plumber while defending himself from accusations of socialism and elitism — Michelle Obama got hungry. She ordered a 4pm snack from Waldorf Astoria Room Service consisting of lobster hors d’oeuvres, two whole steamed lobsters, Iranian caviar and champagne, apparently forgetting that she’s not yet QUEEN."

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/10/18/who-paid-for-michelles-450-snack/

I guess I need to donate a little more so Michelle doesn't need to be slumming for lunch.

Just did some checking. I'd be rather skeptical of any poll done by SurveyUSA. They do robot calls.

Someone launched a campaign To Censure Bachmann

http://www.censurebachmann.com/

UPDATE with fundraising numbers:

24 hours ago, Congresswoman Michele Bachmann announced that all those who disagree with her are "Anti-American." Since then, the outpouring of support for my campaign has been extraordinary. Since Congresswoman Bachmann's outrageous remarks, my campaign has raised $438,346.57, and we're working to reach $500,000 by 5 p.m. today. Congresswoman Bachmann's extreme ideology divides people, but her comments on MSNBC's Hardball have united all of those who believe that I will jump start the ecomomy on Main Street by creating jobs and rebuilding our infrastructure. As a Minister and Mayor, I brought people together. I believe that we build by addition, not division. I want to thank you all. It is now clear that we have the momentum to win and I ask for your financial support. I will keep everyone posted.

Thank you,

El Tinklenberg

http://www.tinklenberg08.com

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/18/2550/3286/381/634245

24 hrs ago :

Help Kick Michele Bachmann out of Congress. NOW. (UPDATED with ActBlue goal!)
by thereisnospoon

Fri Oct 17, 2008 at 02:52:10 PM PDT

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/17/17297/266/761/633857

This post by thereisnospoon has the following item :

DCCC Poll Shows Bachmann Kissed up to Bush Too Many Times

Tinklenberg Holds Bachmann to 4 point lead; Her Approval Ratings Plummet

Last Friday, Minnesota Public Radio reported that the National Republican Congressional Committee planned to pull its television ads in Minnesota's third congressional district to defend Republican Congresswoman Michele Bachmann in Minnesota's sixth congressional district. They did so with good reason if their polling at all matches a poll the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee released today showing Bachmann with only 42 percent of the vote to Elwyn Tinklenberg's 38 percent, and 15 percent are undecided. Elwyn Tinklenberg has won the endorsements of both the Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party and the powerful Independence Party of Minnesota. The poll was conducted by Grove Insight, from October 10 thru 12, of 400 people with 4.9 margin of error.

The four point spread in the race comes after the Alliance for a Better Minnesota television began running a television ad highlighting Michele Bachmann's close ties to President Bush including her infamous kiss at last year's State of the Union address. According to the DCCC's poll, President Bush's approval rating in the district is at an abysmal 18 percent and Bachmann herself isn't fairing much better with only 34 percent. Additionally, 82 percent of respondents said that the country is "off on the wrong track."

SurveyUSA Report Cards
http://www.surveyusa.com/index.php/surveyusa-report-cards/

Methodology
http://www.surveyusa.com/methodology.html

That's exactly what I said. Robo-calls. The voice IS an announcer, but not a live caller.

Calling all artistic Obama supporters ...

http://yeswecarve.com/

tylenol,

What is going on up in Canada with people having their brake lights removed if they have campaign signs on their lawns? One of my friends that lives in Toronto was talking about that last weekend.

It sounded like things were not that civil up in Canada either.

I love it.

Obama leads McCain in Newspaper endorsements.

Last I knew newspapers don't vote. And even worse, if you look at the circulation numbers, less and less people actually buy them. And even more troubling, most of the people that buy them just want to read about sports.

WaPo article on wealthy Japanese banks and the saving habits of Japanese

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/18/AR2008101800820.html?nav=rss_email/components

Bowman? Seriously, I don't know what you're talking about. Sounds like an isolated incident that's blown out of proportion. We did have an election on Tuesday, perhaps people were too slow to get those signs off their lawns? Anyway, Conservatives won another minority government, we're no farther ahead or behind. Status quo for now. I live in a suburb of Montreal and by unanimous decision, we all decided NO lawn signs, years ago. No big rallies, no campaign buttons, we just go out and vote (although, this was a verrrry boring election and our turnout was lowest in history: 59.1%)

You can take all the sincerity in Hollywood, place it in the navel of a firefly and still have room enough for three caraway seeds and a producer's heart.

---fred allen

Play the Fun Quiz: "Dead? or Canadian?"

Hey Bowman, I went looking and found this:

http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20081006/election2008_vandalism_081007/20081007/?hub=TorontoNewHome

But honestly, there certainly wasn't much coverage. Sounds like the work of one or two idjits.

oops....the quiz

http://www.funtrivia.com/submitquiz.cfm?quiz=12302

Smacks Sturge... ALIVE and Canadian..

Tylenol

Here's the news story on the severed brake lines

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/10/09/america/toronto.php

Some Conservative didn't like liberals so tried to kill one.

What else is new?

Nuttin new under the sun, Jamie. Hard to recognize the 'old conservative party' these days. They get their campaign advice from the likes of David Frum (he of "axis of evil" fame). Was a strange election. $300M spent, nothing changes, except 70% of this country voted left-of-center, so the conservatives can't do much harm.

Honolulu lawsuit filed to open Obama’s secret birth records

"Barack Obama steadfastly refuses to allow access to official sources. Andy Martin in Hawaii takes legal action to seek the truth and ferret out the facts about Barack Obama's family history."

CIRCUIT COURT OF THE FIRST CIRCUIT
STATE OF HAWAII

CIVIL NUMBER: 08-1-2147-10

http://contrariancommentary.blogspot.com/

I did ok on that quiz, Sturge.. 190 points. Two tricky questions: dead AND Canadian. lol

Honolulu lawsuit filed to open Obama’s secret birth records

Martin's Claim

3. The issue of the Senator’s birth certificate has become a controversial topic of intense national speculation.

This is a factually incorrect statement and plaintiff should not prevail.

Demonizing Joe The Plumber: Obama Campaign & Surrogates Launch Investigation! AP Digs through Birth and Court Documents to Destroy Him!

http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/10/demonizing-joe-plumber-obama-campaign.html

Ya don't win this one, GORDO.. McCAIN was the one who brought up Joe the Plumber.

Come on GORDO. You're repeating yourself. Move on to something real important like the WTO or if Tinky-wink is gay.

Just this afternoon, McCain said " Joe the Plumber never asked Obama to come to his house" as though Obama had hunted the man down to his front door to harass him about tax issues. Luckiy, David Schuster corrected that on air. It was so remenicent of "one of these nights, when your are asleep in your bed, they will come...."

Rezdog ----------------

If SoetorObama doesn't have anything to hide -- why is he hiding documents that prove he meets the Constitutional requirements for POTUS? You know why. Most likely, his legal name has been Barry Soretoro for the past 40+ years. When he returned to Hawaii from Indonesia (where he almost certainly had citizenship), unless the proper procedures were followed -- he doesn't even have "naturalized" status. In that case, he is an "illegal" alien.

Sturge, there was a show called "Viva Variety" on Comedy Central awhile back. They used to have a segment called "French or Gay?". They'd show pictures of people and you had to guess whether they were French or gay.

Gordo, what could he actually do to prove himself that you would believe without thinking that it was fixed, forged or someone was paid off?

If SoetorObama doesn't have anything to hide -- why is he hiding documents . . . ?

At this point, if it frustrates you and your nutty groups, that's good enough for me. I hope he keep it up. I'm satisfied he's provided all the requirement info to whomever he needed.

I have to say I like the idea of less crazy politicking they have in Canada - I'm really tired of all the sturm und drang. Rep Bachman apparently has not done herself and her ideas any good with her extremes, and so be it.
I'm beginning to feel as if your political stands will mark you for the rest of your life.

I remember when people were shocked and terrified to announce that someone in a protestant family decdided to marry a Catholic (or vice-versa)- actually that probably still happens, only now so much today. I don't know what religion most of the people I deal with practice.

I'm so tired of the fanatical partisanship.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/staten-islands-strange-politic.html#comment-160561

Hey Rez -- I think I still live in the "real Virginia." I am so close to Quantico I can hear the 50 calibers from my front yard. But I am only 40 miles from DC and most of my neighbors commute to and from DC or NoVa everyday -- however -- they are mostly former military, FBI, DEA, Secret Service. You would think that most of these people vote GOP. Hmmm... today I dropped off the last of 15 Obama lawns signs that I picked up on Wednesday. Where did the signs go? On the front lawns of law enforcement people, retired military people, Homeland Security people, an IRS executive, a plumber (real one) and building contractor, a child care provider, a school social worker, a small business owner (automotive mechanic), a senior citizen retiree, a stay at home mom married to active duty deployed Marine (both planning to vote for Obama.)

How more real can it get?

Catch you later G Man, the Red Sox are on!

Go Bosox and Go Obama /Biden 08

2nd lawsuit challenges Obama's citizenship

"Steven Marquis of Fall City, Wash., filed suit Oct. 9 in Washington State Superior Court, calling for Secretary of State Sam Reed to determine whether Obama is a citizen before Election Day.

"At this point, Mr. Obama has not allowed independent or official access to his birth records nor supporting hospital records," Marquis wrote."

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78111

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/staten-islands-strange-politic.html#comment-160639

tylenol When and if Obama wins, I would support Canadian immigration to the US -- at least for a long vacation!

"On the front lawns of law enforcement people, retired military people, Homeland Security people, an IRS executive, a plumber (real one) and building contractor, a child care provider, a school social worker, a small business owner (automotive mechanic), a senior citizen retiree, a stay at home mom married to active duty deployed Marine (both planning to vote for Obama.) "

I'm a bit surprised, given the current tone, that anyone would put up a sign of any sort. Especially one who works for the government. There'll be repercussions now -- or later.

Gordo, he's had to show them to SOMEONE. That would be just one really sloppily dropped ball if he hasn't. Don't you think McCain would be stumping that?

That's funny I just voted for him today here in WA state.

Real Virginia must be where all those pro Americans live.

lol

rosiethecat ------------------

There is a flaw in the system -- NO check of a person's credentials to determine if the Constitutional requirements are met. I know that is hard to believe, but it is fact. Never been a situation like this. SoetorObama (what is his legal name?) has a very complex past -- multiple citizenships at the same time, etc. He is withholding documents for a reason.

1) The documents contain very damaging info. They could reveal new info or contradict previously released info (like that on the COLBs that have been posted on three web sites).

2) The documents don't exist. Such as:

A certified copy of Obama’s Certification of Citizenship.

A certified copy of Obama’s Oath of Allegiance taken upon age of majority.

Certified copies of any Court Orders or legal documents changing Obama’s name from Barry Soetoro to Barack Hussein Obama.

AnonP - I just now caught your response to me. I understand your point there, but this guy who shot up the church is crazy. I can't really consider him as a conservative even tho he obviously spouted the party dogma. I don't see conservatives as naturally crazy, tho some might be, as some liberals might be crazy.

Conservatives believe in property, such as buildings, cars, bank accounts, airplanes - anything solid and real to them. I'm not criticizing them because I also own property (altho not much) and don't want to see it destroyed - most of us here do.

It's just that slavish love of property causes an im-balance in decison-making, and that's why I say conservatives won't start a revolution for political reasons. Religious reasons might be different, but I doubt it here in this country.

The more balance we have in this country, the more stable we will be, and that's why I'm a liberal - I hate the lack of balance of opportunities that the have/have not situation creates.

Everyone should have a chance to own property and the ones who don't live an imbalanced life, and it's not fair. I want that balanced, and that includes conservatives having a share inrunning the country.
That's all. they won't start a revolution.

I wonder if anybody here read The Name of the Rose - I truly enjoyed that book. It furnished me with much food for thought.

Then why aren't the Rep. using that info? I all sounds good, but GORDO, you have to remember that ANYONE can write ANYTHING. That dosen't nessisarly make it true. It's okay to not like Obama for whatever reason, but as McCain himself said, you don't need to be afraid of him. Like I said earlier, you want to be careful about who you are REALLY working for. Do you think you are changing minds with your rather ah...extreme views, or just making sure nobody will listen to you when you might have a really relevent piece of information?

Gordo,

It doesn't matter where he went or what he was called after he was born. You cannot renounce another person's citizenship for them no matter what the adults around a minor do. Another country may have considered him a citizen. That does not deprive him of his rights as a US Citizen. He is the one and only person who can do that. Born in Hawaii. Over the age of 35. He is legal to be President and nothing you and the conspiracy cuckoos can change that.

rosiethecat -----------------------------

If he has nothing to hide -- why hide the documents? Why are SoetorObama and the DNC fighting discovery in the Berg lawsuit?

http://www.obamacrimes.com/attachments/030_ObamaBergOpposProtecOrder100808.pdf

I'm not a member of any organized party, I'm a Democrat.

I've seen that Gordo. but where does it come from? What website? Who wrote the website. Is there any documentation on the documents? For all I know( though I don't think you'd do that) it could have come from you. I can't just read it and say "oh, ok, it must be true."

As a Staten Islander, proud one actually, and a constituent of Mike McMahon's, I am very excited and finally proud that the borough is electing a Democrat to the Congress. I never thought it possible, much less Fossella disgracing himself the way he has.

That said, he is still rather popular here and could pull off a squeaker had he re-run.

BTW, the Ralph's and Denino's are right down the street from my house, so it was very interesting to see my neighborhood on CQ.

"you have to remember that ANYONE can write ANYTHING.. . "

Rosie,

That's one thing GORDO knows real well.

btw, tag you're it

Lived on staten Island for 7-8 months in '77......lived about a block from Carmen's Spanish Restaurant on Barclay, off Hyland......

http://www.carmensrestaurant.com/

And Gordo, you have to be careful when you check your references to make sure that it isn't the same four or five people reference themselves and each other. It's an old trick, but a very effective one.

Sturg,

yeah but how was the food at Carmen's?

Jamie -------------

WRONG !!!

There is not only the loss of his "natural born" status (Berg says he never had it because he was born at Coast Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya. Stanley had to be 19, she was 18. That's the simplified version -- it's more complicated.). But also dual and triple citizenship -- "divided" loyalty issues.

Rez -- maybe you should buy a sweatshirt from my shop:

http://www.cafepress.com/RitaFlamingo.37852685

rez.....paella was superb.....practically lived there when not "touristing" in manhattan.......

speaking of rednecks......know how to tell a rich guy in georgia? TWO cars up on blocks.

rosiethecat ------------------

This is a link to Philip Berg's site. He is the lawyer in Berg v. Obama lawsuit.

http://obamacrimes.com/

Gordo

Reference back to "anybody can say anything". Born in the US = US Citizen

Why bother. I don't think you are stupid, so you have to be nuttier than a peanut factory or so filled with hatred for the idea of a black President that you will believe anything no matter how asinine.

lol thx

They found a new use for sheep, too.
Wool.

Patsi sed: Rez -- maybe you should buy a sweatshirt from my shop:

I want something with redneck on it. That's suits me better.

Gordo, you've been feed twinkies. Time to eat some apples and get a clue. You aren't stupid, just being a tool.

Rosie, i caught your comments yesterday. Agreed.

Brain, I am a red neck....

Grown up - white trash was and is a BAD name to be callin somebody... Refer to it as the WT word

Got the difference..

Red necks can be mighty fine people - you might be considered a yankee red neck....

Here you go REz

http://www.zazzle.com/rednecks_for_obama_sbl_poster_print-228058545908623771

bethyboo...

They both were pushed over the edge by the likes of Hannity, Savage and the other Limpballs who spewed Hated across the airwaves.

They are the Republican Base that McCain\Palin campaign and the RNC are inciting to violence against a sitting Senator and Presidential Candidate.

These are also the same people that Ping is proud in following the support of McCain\Palin.

Watch the video at the link below and hear what the Republican Base says.

http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2008/10/18/104048/48

If anything happens to Senator Obama rest assured that America will become the next Iraq. Why do I think that will happen.

When the people take to the street Ping's dictator will declare Martial Law and put troops on the streets. When that happens War will break out.

Kent State will be the result and Blood will be spilled once again on American soil making the Civil War look like a board game.

I bet that there will be no place on Earth, Heaven or Hell that Republicans will be able to hide if that happens.

The McCain\Palin campaign and those who have been pushing the Hate and Fear Mongering for the RNC and the Fascist Takeover of Our Country will be consumed in the Fire Storm that they started.

Along with the rest of Our Country.

Jamie ---------------

"so filled with hatred for the idea of a black President"

Playing the "race" card? That's what Obots do when they have no answer.

Born in the US? Which US hospital -- two have been named.

His grandmother in Kenya claims he was born in that country.

He is withholding documents because he has a "hidden" past.

What about Cracker? I always wondered where that term came from. One day a slave was eating a cracker and decided it looked just like massa Jones?

lol Jamie, I was thinking more along the lines of red skins.

Rosie

Cracker

http://kpearson.faculty.tcnj.edu/Dictionary/cracker.htm

If you get down through the various sources, one of the most prominent is "corn crack" as in the song Blue Tailed Fly and "Jimmy Crack Corn" - So poor you have to make your own corn meal i.e. crack corn

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQdKNv0MuMo

More McCain\Palin supporters.

http://minnesotaindependent.com/13461/first-dude-and-absent-sarah-upstage-norm-at-duluth-sportsmen-for-coleman-rally

Police said that Adkisson had targeted the Unitarian Universalist Church "because of its liberal teachings." The church advocates social justice and tolerance, and it openly welcomes gay, lesbian, and transgendered members........from last thread(Anon P)

Deuteronomy-13
Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst, if you own full brother, or your sonor daughter, or your beloved wife, or your intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods,gods of any nation, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth
to the other,do not yield to him or listen to him nor look at him, to spare or shield him, but kill him,your hand shall be he first raised the rest of the people shall jjoin in with you.

from this thread ---Anon

If anything happens to Senator Obama rest assured that America will become the next Iraq. Why do I think that will happen.

When the people take to the street Ping's dictator will declare Martial Law and put troops on the streets. When that happens War will break out.

Kent State will be the result and Blood will be spilled once again on American soil making the Civil War look like a board game.

I bet that there will be no place on Earth, Heaven or Hell that Republicans will be able to hide if that happens.

could this be part of the overall problem????----i am loading my ak-47 now and ready

I'd always heard that "Jimmy crack corn" was Jimmy wise-cracked cornily........but master was gone away so it didnt matter......

Hmmm, I guess it can now be used to refer to the average Palin supporter.

Anon - Paranoid ---- You say what? Come now - You know me better !

First they are the fringe and I have never tolerated such discussions as you so state - and I guess we have the fringe showing both sides.

Those that create the distration that allows your comments and keeps people from the truth. They are as guilty as those that slither and hide

Now...

Diva.. I wont be emigrating, but it'll be nice to have an agreeable person in the Oval Office.

I am a Cracker before a Red Neck....

We have been through this before... Cracker is NOT A BAD WORD !!!!

It comes from a basis of hard honorable work - Cowboys that are "Cracking" the whip

Florida continues to be a great cattle state and Florida Crackers abound.

The only negative is the ignorance of people that convert it to such

"White Trash not so much. Darn little school and not bright enough to learn if they stayed. Too much alcohol too many kids by too many men (you get the picture)"

Jamie

That is the same definition a clansman will use for N*gger. He will also say"I'm not talking about blacks they are different"

A bit like your Redneck vrs white trash definition.

As I said last night. It's a class thing, If you don't understand it is because your part of it.

Jack

If there was any doubt as to what had brought out the 400-500 souls who showed up in a Gander Mountain parking lot on the outskirts of Duluth this afternoon, the hand-made signs in the crowd spelled it out:

Three things keep us free: God, Guns, Sarah!

Charles Manson was a community organizer

And, on a truck loaded with firewood: Let’s turn Washington DC into a hockey rink

That's an interesting link AP

More on Crackers - and the basis for use in the South...

http://www.oldfloridamuseum.com/crackervillage.html

Ping pong

I believe Jamies definition of cracker fits better to its use than yours. It means rural hill country poor afaik.

Jack

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/staten-islands-strange-politic.html#comment-160722

Jack,

The majority of people who live in trailers are definitely NOT trailer trash.

Jack...
I can tell you the growing up in the south we had Florida Crackers and Georgia Crackers....

Just good old country folks that worked hard, did the right things, was not white trash, never owned nobody, was not rich or wealthy.... again, just good ole folks -

Now some in the PC crowd will turn them into evil.... or more negative use of the term.. simply wrong..

I am not sure of the post from Jamie which way it is trying to take it...

But take it from me and the normal and frequent use in my growin up years

Okay, here is a story from work. About 5-6 years ago I worked with a black woman named Venice. Venice was from Chicago. A nice, married woman. I got along with her pretty well. She and I were working next to each other one night at work. We had just got back from break and she was eating some crackers. She saw me looking at her as she was eating her crackers. She turned to me and asked, "Would you like a cracker?" I asked her, "What did you call me?!" Her reaction was priceless! She said, "Oh no, no! It ain't nothin' like that! I asked you if you WANTED a cracker!" The other people we worked with showed up and wondered why we were laughing so hard. I told them what happened and they all started laughing with us. We must have laughed for about 10 minutes over that.

One possibility is "gimcrack corn," cheap corn whiskey; another related theory is that it refers to "cracking" open a jug of corn whisky; another is that "crack-corn" is related to the (still-current) slang "cracker" for a rural Southern white.[9] Another interpretation is that "crack corn" came from the old English term "crack," meaning gossip, and that "cracking corn" was a traditional Shenandoah expression for "sitting around chitchatting."[10] Yet another, and possibly the most popular, is that the chorus refers to an overseer who, without the master, has only his bullwhip to keep the slaves in line. Most etymologists support the first interpretation, as the term "cracker" appears to predate "corncracking", and "whipcracker" has no historical backing.[11] This suggests that the chorus means the slaves are making whiskey and celebrating.

wiki

Anon - Aside from pointing out that you are using some of the incendiary "logic" that those you hate use, I will give up this discussion. You seem to hate the people you are picking out as much as you think they hate you.
Too bad.

When Fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the Flag and carrying a Cross.

was that sinclair lewis or upton sinclair.....it was one of them......(about the flag and the cross)

I think there is a greater fear of socialism now. That's what I keep hearing people fear.

Ping Pong

I've never used the term "cracker" about a person, so don't have any feelings about it except my standard rule: If someone objects to being called something, don't call them that.

Ping, I lived in E. Tenn for 35 yrs, drank moonshine from a mason jar and have relatives that grow tabbacy. I know people that live in small inbreed communities in the mountains that literally haven't married "outside" in more than a hundred years. People have stereotypes for a reason. There are such things as Crackers and dumb red-necks. As Jack said, it is a social thing and they are afraid of change.

bethyboo...

Sorry bethyboo, but I don't hate them.

What I hate is the path and road they are taking Our Country down.

Because I fall under the same definition that they are calling UnAmerican, Terrorist and all the rest of their Hate Speech.

This speech was used in Nazi Germany against the Jews as well as Gypsies and Blacks to demean and denigrate them.

It's evident that many in America believe the rhetoric that is spewed by the Reich Wing of the Republican Party which is no different than Hitlers Nazi Party.

Least we forget that the Nazi Party ended up destroying Germany we to will end up having America Destroyed by the Republican Party.

In the latin cultlure---------ranchero (rancher)--or campasino rural person-- is equal to white trash, and is very clearly known what you mean when you say it, no matter how you disguise it with humor, or anything,,,,,,,,,,,,i bunked with a friend named T R Munn from ala,took a long time for us to be friends,said he may smile and laugh at the diff things people said, but, on the inside he was mad. he took as a class definition, then he would take his boots, and imitate Gaby Hayes, if you can't see it's all about class even in the big city of chicago------lots of latin neighborhoods are lived in by diff classes of people, not money(so much) but social class.

Spreading the wealth, I believe.

the nazis also exploited a fear of socialism and communism.......

Just effect what would socialism have here in America? What would be the major changes from what we have now?

Ping pong
I just found this interesting explanation. It would tie it to cracking, as in telling a joke or telling a wordplay joke on some one. As in cracking on someone or cracking a joke.

http://www.word-detective.com/100699.html

"There are theories tracing "cracker" to the crack of a slavemaster's whip, or to "corncracker" (slang for country folk, who presumably ate a lot of corn). But the actual source is almost certainly the much older slang sense of "to crack" meaning "to boast or brag," first seen around 1460, and its derivative "cracker," meaning "braggart," which appeared around 1509. The earliest use of "cracker" used in the "poor white" sense discovered so far bears out the connection. In a letter written to the Earl of Dartmouth in 1766, an observer named Gavin Cochrane, referring to bands of outlaws operating at that time in the Southern U.S., noted: "I should explain to your Lordship what is meant by crackers; a name they have got from being great boasters; they are a lawless set of rascalls on the frontiers of Virginia, Maryland, the Carolinas and Georgia, who often change their places of abode." "

Jack

Jack,, I like it.... And could tie also with the cattleman telling stories...

Regardless to all, I do not offend and in fact would take pleasure in being known as Ping Pong the Cracker !!!

Of course I tell my daughters that Crack Kills !!! when they lean over and you can see their Joe the Plumber back ends

Long day - lots of chores completed !! I cracked the whip !!! so time to slow down and prepare for a day of worship.... and football

my best to all...

can cracker be applied to a black person also? why aren't they in the equal opportunity-craker barrel-

Here are two links about Bush threatening Martial Law if the congress would not pass his Socialist bailout of his Corporate pals.

From the first link:
According to numerous Congressional testimonies, the stark panic atmosphere which has gripped both Congress and the US media was intentionally created in order to 'fast-track' a financial bailout bill. Several members of Congress were told before Monday's vote that martial law might be instigated in America if the legislation failed.

During his speaking time on Thurs, Congressman Sherman stated explicitly, "Many of us were told in private conversations, that if we didn't pass this bill on Monday, the sky would fall, the market would drop two or three thousand points, another couple thousand the second day, and a few members were even told that there would be Martial Law in America if we voted no(to the bail out bill)."

Earlier this week, Congressman Michael C. Burgess from the 26th District of Texas, went public on Monday stating live on Infowars nationwide radio broadcast, that House speaker Nancy Pelosi had declared House Rule 136A, effectively putting the House under "Martial Law" rules, a dictatorial measure only activated during times of national emergency.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Representatives-Were-Threa-by-Patrick-Henningsen-081004-301.html

From the second link:
Background: the First Brigade of the Third Infantry Division, three to four thousand soldiers, has been deployed in the United States as of October 1. Their stated mission is the form of crowd control they practiced in Iraq, subduing "unruly individuals," and the management of a national emergency. I am in Seattle and heard from the brother of one of the soldiers that they are engaged in exercises now. Amy Goodman reported that an Army spokesperson confirmed that they will have access to lethal and non lethal crowd control technologies and tanks.

George Bush struck down Posse Comitatus, thus making it legal for military to patrol the U.S. He has also legally established that in the "War on Terror," the U.S. is at war around the globe and thus the whole world is a battlefield. Thus the U.S. is also a battlefield.

http://www.alternet.org/rights/101958/thousands_of_troops_are_deployed_on_u.s._streets_ready_to_carry_out_%22crowd_control%22/

Also do not forget that under the MCA of 2006 he has the power to label anyone, yes anyone including American Citizens as Enemy Combatants, arrest, detain forever and confiscate all there belongings and property as well under another power given him by the RFN's and some Democrats.

Now why would the Republicans and Bush want to give a Democrat the power to hold them all accountable for their Crimes Against Humanity, War Crimes and Treason for outing a NOC and endangering Our National Security?

America will be the next Kent State if the American People don't wake up and smell the coffee.

oops--having a cpl drinks-----starting to talk cracker

"can cracker be applied to a black person also?"

Solar
Like your friends from Mexico, they too have class distinctions. I suspect it is part of their southern heritage. I'll let those more familiar with AA culture talk about them.

Jack

And spell it, too :0)

What I know about Sweden is that Sweden has very high taxes. I remember many pro tennis players from Sweden who didn't live in Sweden because the taxes were very high.

Thanks Jack

How is you kitchen going----they are always simple, before you start them---but when you,,, often a cpl of surprises, hus

that is when you start them

Things are going good, The home owner is happy with the progress and I'm still on schedule. We did expand it a little the first day. It was easier to strip off the old plaster and sheet rock then it was to repair the plaster. I told the owner up front that there was a good chance of that. It does make it easier to rewire it and modernize the electrical circuits.

The fun part is the unlevel floors. At some time the house had a back porch, the kitchen was expanded into the porch. the old kitchen floor is as level as can be expected in a 100 yr old house. The porch floor is a different story It is about an inch and half out of level in 6 ft. I've got a major hump in the middle of my sink base. So I went over today and played with them while nobody was around to bother me. Shim 3/4 here 1/2 there and I think I have them looking great even if they aren't. The base trim will cover everything.

While you and I can spot the flaws all the home owner will be looking is the shiney new tile countertop and fancy backsplash.

Jack

Goot one! es verdad Solar?

"A reader in Colorado sends over word that the state Democratic Party and the Obama camp are blasting out robocalls from "Joe Martinez," a plumber in Colorado who vouches for the Illinois Democrat's tax plan."

Jose el plomero

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/18/obama-launches-own-joe-th_n_135854.html

yeah those back porches are fun---a lot of them here (inclosed) are used for an extra bedroom----most are very cold----they improvise with electric heaters that have poor wiring,,,,, i always have good wishes for them

Rea

I wrote yesterday that joe aint no plumber,,,,,he is more like a sales man,,,,he talks like one,,,,,plumbers are plumb shy

lol Solar

spare the home owner

it will up in online in a couple hours.

I've got that problem with my house I'm rehabbing. There is no good solution to getting heat to the rooms.
I am lucky that the house has a walkout basement so I can get under the rooms but they basically just hang out with the floors exposed to the cold. I think I will need to build an insulated box around the duct.

Jack

collecting the collections at mass, used to be a prettty good part time job for some one that i knew-----used to brag about it at the bar---when i would not except a drink from him-----used to tell him that i did not who was paying for it so i could buy one back

Jack

sounds about right--box them in----maybe some cheapy concrete wall insulation to the bottom will help, covered with plastic the length of the basement?----

Sox going to game 7

i wrote except a drink------should have been accept a drink, im bad enough as it is,,,,this typing while drinking could get someone arrested, if he is trying it in his car, the cop would take my lap top away no?

A book on the topic of Cracker Culture...

Cracker Culture: Celtic Ways in the Old South (Paperback)
by Grady McWhiney (Author)

http://www.amazon.com/Cracker-Culture-Celtic-Ways-South/dp/0817304584

All i ever wanted to be was 2 things--a patrol boy,,and a cowboy,,,,,
i did not get either ----Sister mary Adriane said that it was (patrol boy) i was not good enough, and never would be,,,,i hated that bitch-- 1-2-3-4- ah that's bettter im ok now

While walking past a dept. store once, i showed mom the cowboy hat,boots,two gun holsters, and two shiny shoot em up col 45's WOW----had to save our money to pay for all our school tuitions, i hated f--n school---1-2-3 im ok don't worry.

well im a big boy now i got both------borrowed a patrol boys belt, and helped him cross the little ones, and then at a holloween party i dressed up as the masked man the lone(and horny)ranger, sooner or later i always get what i want----maybe

Still have fantasy's , but now it's diff toys i just pop in a good porno now---hahaha,,oops here comes judy---later.

for everybody who works for a living and has never voted for a republican...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4KMrc3eNdo

B, I voted he would endorse.

off to bed

Holy cow! Do NOT skip Frank Rich in The Times today...Frank just destroys McCain in this great column.
Here's a sample:
"The election isn’t over, but there remain only three discernible, if highly unlikely, paths to a McCain victory. A theoretically mammoth wave of racism, incessantly anticipated by the press, could materialize in voting booths on Nov. 4. Or newly registered young and black voters could fail to show up. Or McCain could at long last make good on his most persistent promise: follow Osama bin Laden to the gates of hell and, once there, strangle him with his own bare hands on “Hannity & Colmes.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/19/opinion/19rich.html?hp

colin for obama done deal.

Powell voting for Senator Obama.

YaHoooooooooo..................

"Powell voting for Senator Obama.
YaHoooooooooo.................."

Was there ever any doubt?

I wonder if he'll bring some charts and maps to MTP to explain the urgency.....

Powell should have resigned when Bush started passing the Iraq Kool Aid.

Powell said it was the negative tone of the campaign that pushed him to Obama and he still thinks going to Iraq was the right thing to do...AND it would have been better if the surge were earlier. Sounds like he still supports the Shrubian/McCain Eyerack policy

Blonde Who -
You know I was a toe head blond at one time!

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/video-trail-mix-obamas-white-b.html#comment-160454

you over simplfy and need to connect the economic dots.
Ummm I wonder who pays the majority of the tax already?
Ummm How can Barack give 90 something percent a tax decrease when almost 50% already pay nothing?

Sadly extreme elements of the right have not asked the correct questions and allowing these spin and half truth statements of Barack to carry the day....

and sadly Blone - you feel for his failed math.

But still time -

Posted by: Ping Pong | October 18, 2008 1:46 PM

Ping...typical republican chant, I believe I have a better understanding of the difference between arithmetic, math, financial theory and bullshit than our current regime. Your numbers are incorrect and I correctly stated that the current financial crisis is more physical than political. Too many rich people at the top...

As I stated the repugs are getting hysterical about wealth redistribution. What is wrong with putting the money back in America? What about the cost of the Iraq war? It has enriched Blackwater and Haliburton. How much do they pay in taxes?

Once you release yourself from the republican talking points, Ping, it will set your free.

NEW THREAD

"towhead" - a person with light blond hair. This is based on the hair's resemblance to "tow" which is coarse or broken flax prepared for spinning (Wiki, et al).