Sarah Palin all day, everyday. Her shoes, her clothes, her kids, her husband, her disagreements with McCain, her interviews, whatever, everyday, all day for the next 9 days.
Republican fears of historic Obama landslide unleash civil war for the future of the party
Senior Republicans believe that John McCain is doomed to a landslide defeat which will hand Barack Obama more political power than any president in a generation.
I found this great fun. At first I was 36 and then I remembered that 0 comes BEFORE 1 and than I was 29.
I feel so chipper now.
1. Touch 'start'
2. Wait for 3, 2,1.
3. Memorize the number's position on the screen, and then click the circle from
the lowest number to the highest number.
4. At the end of game, the computer will tell you the age of your brain.
and ETom......dont think it was a "lot of shit".....I just pointed out it reminded me of a "playground" thing.....instead of pointing out the fact that McCain is seriously old and probably fast crossing into borderline senility.....it just gives him an easily dismissable moniker......
but at any rate.....it's just the way I see it.....I obviously dont expect many others to see everything my way.....after all, I'm as fulla crap as the next guy.......and then some......
But I did leave out a good one in the other direction: Obummer. LOL
Flatus -- the post of Brian's that sturge pointed to came yesterday -- and yes, it does cross a line. For some reason there are people here who think Brian's continual references to violence against others is just fine. Just part of his "personality" don't ya know....sad how he has influenced a lot of people who now tend to yuk it up over that sort of thing.
Patsi. I don't think they're a bit cute. Maybe it's a Manhattan thing. But, I thought they had changed their in-your-face ways in recent years. So, maybe it's just Brian's misanthropic personality. In any case, I agree that it's not a bit nice.
Patsi you want to do feminism a favor, find a speeding bus and dive under it.
Posted by: BrianInNYC | October 25, 2008 10:38 PM
I say, doesnt this cross some sort of line or another? Or is it just "cute"..........
Posted by: sturgeone | October 26, 2008 7:43 AM
Yes it does cross over the line, and it wasn't cute. I think Brian would, upon retrospect, would agree. But I did cringe when I saw it. I admire Patsi very much and I have come to like Brian and respect his intelligence. I wish they could find a sort of common ground. But then I haven't been so successful with a few in here either, so I am not here to condemn... just thoughts rolling through my head.
Good Morning all.
Yeah Sturge it's about as cute as
" Hey you got a cyanide capsule ready to bite down on when the election is called? If not, let me know, I'll find one for you."Posted by: BrianInNYC | October 25, 2008 4:39 PM
Patsi, GREAT editorial... I see the your wit also runs in the family. I particularly love the comment from your sister: "When it was all over Brother Tom stood by the door shaking hands, and he asked my sister Jo Ellen, what she thought of Billy James's revelations. She said she thought Billy James was a lunatic and a racist pig and ought to be locked up where he couldn't hurt anybody. "
Although written in 1980, it does bring sharp relevance to the discussion of the rise of the Religious "Right". I would like to add it to my blog if that is ok with you, and maybe share it with some friends along the way.
Good Morning all.
Yeah Sturge it's about as cute as
" Hey you got a cyanide capsule ready to bite down on when the election is called? If not, let me know, I'll find one for you."Posted by: BrianInNYC | October 25, 2008 4:39 PM
Posted by: oldseahag | October 26, 2008 9:24 AM
WOW... how did I miss that one? If it's any help I've been on the receiving end too, as have many of us. He isn't the only one to do it, but he is the most capable in creating these one line zingers. I had to look beyond those raw zingers to see the points he was really making. The guy is intelligent for sure, and in spite of these posts, I think he is a good and caring person.
patsi......i left the window up all night and it never came up......could you maybe send the editorial again when you get a chance? Thanks, again large sizes.........
A lot of the stuff presented isn't Palin as much as a disconnect between Palin's view of herself and the view the McCain's campaign staff have been trying to create.
It seems the Washington insiders on McCain's staff are a bit troubled by the back woods image Palin projects and have been doing their best to soften it.
McCain's problem isn't Palin, in fact an argument can be made that with out Palin it would be much worse for him.
McCain's problem is the economy and the fact that he has never created a solution to the problems from a conservative pov. It may be that there is no solution with a conservative bent but sounding like Bush the elder (and being a warmed over version at that) isn't going to work.
The Mortgage crises hit him like a ton of bricks and then the middle class folks all got there 401k quarterly statements at the same time. All that knocked Palin out of the picture. She is only relevant to people like you who need something to say besides. "God are we really headed for another great depression?"
Or a special incentive to those that do. which would be easier to prove.
Just make alternative energy required % of the mix then give the communities that have such things a reduction on what they pay.
A bit like one of the local communities that allows a landfill to be operated and expanded. Resdents get free use of the land fill.
"i left the window up all night and it never came up......could you maybe send the editorial again when you get a chance? Thanks, again large sizes........."
Good Morning all
Patsi you want to do feminism a favor,keep fighting the good fight against those who have a problem with strong woman and if you see a bus stop and look as it passes you by!!! The world needs you,we need you!! T
the nut case I want to see go home is Chamblis in Georgia. Was looking at the polls last night and it looks close.If Obama has any coat tails............
"am a troglodyte who prefers email, still, to Facebook and myspace. Need to learn to use them (goes into the "after November 5" queue...)
How about the rest of you"
dog -- be careful with those places. I tried to link to the site of a friend's daughter, and I thought I was just following instructions -- and came within an INCH of letting the site send an email to my entire address book, asking them to "be my friend." GOD! A lot of those in the address book are business contacts. It would have been a disaster.
"the nut case I want to see go home is Chamblis in Georgia. Was looking at the polls last night and it looks close.If Obama has any coat tails............"
Ditto that -- likewise Norm Coleman. The thought that he followed Paul Wellstone to the senate makes me sick.
For those of you who didn't stay up till 2 am and watch the Phillies win.
"This was midnight madness and then some on a rainy night that pushed the start to 10:06 p.m. and it wrapped up at 1:47 a.m. Ruiz, Chase Utley and Ryan Howard homered for the Phils, but it took three kooky plays to win it on a bases-loaded trickler with no outs."
that special place is going to be very crowded.......tancredo, hunter, mcconnel, graham,
chambliss, coleman, just to scratch the surface.........where they'll be awaited by DeLay, Gingrich, Frist, Geo. Allen, already in place............going to be a grand old party.......
Democratic pollster Stan Greenberg said Friday that his party is in position for “an earthquake election” come Nov. 4.
“Nothing is going to look the same,” Greenberg said, joined by Democratic strategist James Carville at a breakfast with reporters hosted by The Christian Science Monitor.
It amazes me how repug southern New Mexico actually is! Obama will most likely win the state by the votes in the Albuqueruqe and Santa Fe, however, the southern part of the state seems lost to him...Obama has not held a large rally in this area as previous candidates had done -- Kerry, Gore and Bush.
The front page of both the El Paso Times and Las Cruces Sun News detail McCain's visit and follow with a little blurb on Hillary's visit to a much smaller town.
Sturge- You sail a lot? We (my kids and I) have a 26 ft. pearson with no rudder and a 25 ft. seibelmann with a leaky smoking engine. The annual plan is to for me to cook up a storm and load the cooler ( I get real thirsty sailing!) and go all day every Sunday. During the week sunset cruises are planned after I close the shop. Well we only got out a few times this year. So I cooked and loaded the cooler and sat on the mooring!
CONCORD, N.H. - Barack Obama has vaulted to a 15-point lead over John McCain in New Hampshire, according to a new Boston Globe poll, a significant gap in a state that McCain considers his second political home and has long been a swing state in the race for the White House.
I dislike Facebook and Myspace. They both, IMO, trivialize relationships by hanging them out like laundry on the line. And, when something is entered on either of those sites, the content is around forever without the context that is present in more of threaded discussion.
I much prefer Usenet to any of the more current social environments.
I find the postings here so appallingly naive. Hasn't anyone gotten the memo, yet? Don't you people read newspapers? The Republican Party is passé, obsolete, null and void of all content. Some guy named Alan Greenspan told the truth for everyone to hear.
The entire Republican platform and all their policies have been shown to be the greatest sham played on the American people since the last Great Depression, also caused by uncontrolled Republican fiscal policy, a policy built on greed and nothing but greed. Reaganomics and the conquer all neo-con agenda is dead. Not only did Reaganomics break the bank, it broke all the banks. It broke the insurance companies, the car companies and almost every small business in the country. Not just our country but every country.
Keith Olbermann, by the way, is the only journalist willing to stand up and speak the truth. (Rachel Maddow has stepped up, too.) He is the antithesis of the right-wing programmed screaming heads, the ones without a message or a mind to speak it. People like Limbaugh, Hannity and Kristol who simply repeat the propaganda issued by the Republican National Committee, one of the worlds most dangerous crime and terror organizations. All that remains of their "message" is the fear and hatred they have served up since Barry Goldwater accused the media of leading him to hate all Americans who would not vote for him. Such a petty individual, somewhat like the Bush clan.
Finally it looks like America will be taken back for the people, not the bankrupt big businesses that have been running the Republican Party for grossly huge profits that broke the American economy.
"It amazes me how repug southern New Mexico actually is! Obama will most likely win the state by the votes in the Albuqueruqe and Santa Fe, however, the southern part of the state seems lost to him..."
I'll be interested in seeing what happens in Denver and Colorado Springs....The Springs is seriously right wing...we used to laugh that Denver and Aspen had to offset the rest of the state. A bit of an oversimplification, but....
I think coming into a blog and opening up with a statement that says "I find the postings here so appallingly naive. " to be a wrong way to introduce yourself or your ideas.
As for Olbermann, he is sometimes interesting, but his sexist, anti-Hillary bullshit in the primary pretty much did me in toward him and his big mouth bullying. And before you accuse me of being some sort of right wing nut case, I am fully supporting Obama and have already voted for him.
Brian great comment in that link you provided from Boston.com
"Harry Nelson, a 79-year-old retired Wall Street money manager who participated in the poll and agreed to speak with a reporter afterward, said the next president will enter the White House under conditions similar to those that faced Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1933. Obama, he said, has "some of the same stuff" as Roosevelt and could be a "transformational leader."
"If you look at the way he runs his campaign, it's been brilliant," said Nelson, an undeclared voter who lives in Hanover. "I don't think he's an economic expert, but he doesn't have to be - he picks good people. . . . That's what management is all about, isn't it?" "
Hey
Patsi, Tom ,
Bruce is just a drive by poster, He is gonna set us straight in one post of incredible wisdom. As if that could be done. I've been giving you all my wisdom for a long time. And do you pay any attention? Noooooooo.
Just a hard headed bunch of stubborn people. That is all I have to say.
BTW Patsi, spell check is telling me you are spelling your name wrong. Just thought you would like to know
Sturg----will get the Robert Ringer book, i have always felt certain things--- everyone has looked up at a calm night full of stars and felt spiritual, what they are looking at is part of themselves. I would love to have these theories taught side by side in any classroom that the people that thing the earth is only 6-10mil old------along with true history of the all religions and the popes etc etc,,the good and the bad, i think that it would open a lot of minds that are corrupted since the day their parents start brainwashing them with not believable fables, i started asking questions in catholic school, and expressed confusion, and doubt about the father, son. and the holy ghost being all the same person, that used to get me a few wacks from sister may adrieane, and the rest of the week in the penalty box------in the clothes----i learned a lot of thing about all the kids in that closet,,, i think i even saw sister mary's vibrater-haha
Flatus,,,the person that i would like to see replace pelosi, is Romm Emmanuel, he is from il and probably know Obama, and the people that he knows well. he would get his agenda passed a lot easier, and we would find out what kind of potus he would make right away,,,,,,i hope that he can just get a cpl of big important things done, health care for all is one of them .thanks
" I've been giving you all my wisdom for a long time. And do you pay any attention? Noooooooo."
ROFL, Jack. You are wrong. I have been compiling your wisdom in The Book of Whiskey Jack
and don't I know that my name is mispelled. My older sisters refused to call the new baby "Patricia" and nicknamed me....they thought Patsy with an "i" was revolutionary. Ig'nert.
Bruce...sorry....I am so upset about McCain getting better press coverage here when his rally was much smaller than Hillary Clinton's rally. "Hey, ours was bigger than theirs!" The local papers have given the repugs much front page coverage...and as Patsi noted, it is the military nature of the area.
I found the intent of the homemade signs against Obama so repugnant!
Sorry Bruce – You may play to most of this crowd but your argument hold little truth.
The antipathies of Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddox are just the antithesis of Limbaugh, Hannity. They are all ENTERTAINERS. To call Keith Olbermann a Journalist is an insult to the true professional journalist. Which not knowing your age you may not relate - as in recent years they are hard to find. AM Joe got his message – Olbermann in time will get his.
Secondly – this current correction is needed and a result of bad balance sheets that went the wrong direction primarily based on not maintaining the fundamentals of sound accounting and economics. And you are correct – the true Republican values have not been represented and Bush has acted complacent – allowed this to happen by not standing the ground and allowing bad fiscal policy to happen.
Brian-----do you have real dog's---i mean dogs that you can hear bark or something, they don't get very much time out when you take them for a walk, unless they do their bizns out in the hall way, which would make others in the building pretty mad, or r you the only one left in the building?
Too funny, just now on Blitzer's show when Heather Wilson was asked about Palin's shopping spree she made a crack about Biden's hair plugs. The of course launched into the repug catch phrase of the week "Obama, Pelosi, and Reid"
Flatus – did you get caught yet? I gotta go finish some chores….
Will check back later - see if any response to these open items.
1 –gifting demographics – And impacts
2 – The impact of high taxes on RI as a case study and concerns to tip it too far
3 – Who has the lowest IQ – Nancy, Harry, Barney?
4 - Does Craig really have his own hair and natural color?
5 – Good news is Bad news for Barack – but hey maybe to late as the correct turn is starting
6 – Rays or Phillies
Ping Pong, it is ALL about incompetent leadership from America's greatest enemies - repugs!
Pick up a history book some time. The single motivation the GOP - Greedy Old Party - has is huge profits over all else.
Before Reagan broke our economy a 10% annual profit was considered a very good return. Under the sham of Reaganomics anything under 30% annual growth was considered failure. Uncontrolled growth like that is maintained artificially over any extended period of time - like 5 years - and resulted in the 1987-1989 recession. But the greedy ones didn't learn their lesson.
Remember trickle down? Never happened.
All those jobs to be created by cutting taxes for the rich? Never happened. People don't create jobs, businesses do. Only they didn't create more jobs, they exported those jobs to Latin America and Asain.
You ask me the guy is basically right, the GOP has managed itself into meaninglessness. Let's hope the rest of the country doesn't follow.
The last shred of policy left to the GOP is the personal attack. They don't even have that greed thing left.
McCain claims to want de-regulation while callling for the need to re-regulate? Enough to make your head spin. Him and his ilk have been nothing more than a rubber stamp for the worst President in U.S. history. It has gotten so bad there isn't anything left to hate, just pity. The burned out shell that was George W. Bush has already begun instituting President Obama's policies.
Think about it - America for Americans.
But what will the right-wing hate machine do? McCain has already whipped them up to threaten violence. In some cases the hate-crimes have already begun. What kind of "conservative" ideology is that?
The people who stampeded the vote on the bailout and Obama was one of them, demonstrated centrist conventional thinking and sheep like behavior. The bailout benefited big banking.
Of course there is the FISA vote earlier this year. He was against it before he was for it.
"What makes Obama's 'textbook' dash to the center so extraordinary is not just its speed, but how it falsifies the very essence of his candidacy. It's as if Bill Clinton won the Democratic nomination in 1992 and announced suddenly that actually he was not a 'new kind of Democrat'; or if George W. Bush, after winning his party's nomination in 2000, forswore 'compassionate conservatism'; or if John McCain, after winning the GOP nomination this year, declared in favor of a hard deadline for withdrawal from Iraq http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/07/wag_the_blog_obamas_shift_to_t.html
Jack----OSH-----made a large pot of this, and froze in 4 diff containers, goes a long way, a very cheap,but very good imo.
single recipe----Round meat ( pot roast) and 1-2 large soup bones
2 lbs meat, that you wash and place in a pot with cilantro, 1 large onion, 1-3 tomatoes, salt to taste, let simmer till meats is tender,them you put in vegies, 2-3 large zuchinni, i cut them up in round slices, 3 large corn on the cob cut in 1/2, carrots, and cabbage ( jack is right make you soups fresh and crunchy sliced cabbage is the ticket) you can eat this (mexican style soup) with rice and lemons, or with out that i like.the trick of it is the water i use about 1/4-to 1/3 gal.
Mexican rice.....my way
1 large cup of brown rice----don't like the starch in white, open up one can of corn, one can of peas and drain fluid do not throw away put in an other cup, dice 1 large onion, dice 1 large tomato or 2, a little cilantro, and a little tomato sauce (i use a little salsa) about 2-3 large spoons and set aside-------put in a frying pan little oil,,any then put in the rice-----hey where you going,,,,,,watch that rice it cooks fast,,,don't make me come over there,,,,,turn the rice over and over until it gets a little brown, then put in the 3 spoons of salsa of sauce, keep turning the rice until it stops sizzling then put in the liquid from the corn and the peas and 2 more cups of water. then add all the rest of,,,cover on low heat until all water evaporates,,,,,,,you can put this in the soup above or like do with any other meal---i like it with fish.
both are very cheap and goes a long way----hope you like it
solar, craig sneaked a new thread in on us. your recipe deserves to be read. sounds like you're very much at home in the kitchen and can wield a wicked soup ladle.
Stinky had me up at 0530. Ate breakfast, did four loads of laundry, ate lunch, did the dishes and took a two hour nap--all by 1300. The only job left is filling the medicine dispensers for the next week--a 45-minute job. After that, nothing left to do except mutter about how the Rays wuz robbed.
I love it when the Times talks tax policy. In their own house, they've shrunk their product and boosted its price. Let's see how that works for them.
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Posted by: BrianInNYC
| October 26, 2008 12:17 AM
Bla Bla Bla....... How does Boring no substance Obermann stay on the air?
Craig.... You saved the day for Keith - you are the only value on MSgeNBC
The long arm of Jack will be in touch....
Posted by: Ping Pong
| October 26, 2008 12:25 AM
As long as the story is about her and not McCain, then the Dems win. Keep it up MSM including the beautifully coiffed Craig Crawford. :-)
Posted by: Rezdog
| October 26, 2008 12:31 AM
Yes he was nicely coiffed wasn't he? And his hair color looks so natural too.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| October 26, 2008 12:50 AM
Sarah Palin all day, everyday. Her shoes, her clothes, her kids, her husband, her disagreements with McCain, her interviews, whatever, everyday, all day for the next 9 days.
Posted by: Rezdog
| October 26, 2008 1:02 AM
Yep Rez, 9 days before the election and McCain is already yesterday's news.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| October 26, 2008 1:06 AM
Republican fears of historic Obama landslide unleash civil war for the future of the party
Senior Republicans believe that John McCain is doomed to a landslide defeat which will hand Barack Obama more political power than any president in a generation.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/3260074/Republican-fears-of-historic-Obama-landslide-unleash-civil-war-for-the-future-of-the-party.html
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| October 26, 2008 1:14 AM
I found this great fun. At first I was 36 and then I remembered that 0 comes BEFORE 1 and than I was 29.
I feel so chipper now.
1. Touch 'start'
2. Wait for 3, 2,1.
3. Memorize the number's position on the screen, and then click the circle from
the lowest number to the highest number.
4. At the end of game, the computer will tell you the age of your brain.
http://flashfabrica.com/f_learning/brain/brain.html
tt
Posted by: tiptoe
| October 26, 2008 1:46 AM
It almost seems McInsane picked Palin out of spite for Rove for denying him his buddy Senator Joey.
It looks like an Obama win.
Posted by: DexterJohnson
| October 26, 2008 3:00 AM
Very interesting profiles of the four candidates
http://www.nytimes.com/pages/weekinreview/index.html
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| October 26, 2008 3:33 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/palin-the-running-weight.html#comment-163856
Hey Dexter, I've been taking a lot of shit for using your McInsane moniker for McIck... vis-a-vis the blog. :-)
Posted by: EuroTom
| October 26, 2008 4:42 AM
Dex is a case unto himself........lol
solar.....a good book along the alan watts book is Robert Ringer's LOOKING OUT FOR # 1.
Posted by: sturgeone | October 26, 2008 6:15 AM
and ETom......dont think it was a "lot of shit".....I just pointed out it reminded me of a "playground" thing.....instead of pointing out the fact that McCain is seriously old and probably fast crossing into borderline senility.....it just gives him an easily dismissable moniker......
but at any rate.....it's just the way I see it.....I obviously dont expect many others to see everything my way.....after all, I'm as fulla crap as the next guy.......and then some......
But I did leave out a good one in the other direction: Obummer. LOL
Posted by: sturgeone | October 26, 2008 6:48 AM
Am I the only one who thinks it is ironic that the evangelical is the one who shops at "Out of the Closet"?
Posted by: Jamie
| October 26, 2008 7:13 AM
Dateline Alaska
Anchorage Daily News endorses Obama
http://www.adn.com/opinion/view/story/567867.html
Posted by: Jamie
| October 26, 2008 7:17 AM
"Am I the only one who thinks it is ironic that the evangelical is the one who shops at "Out of the Closet"?"
Yes
Posted by: Flatus
| October 26, 2008 7:25 AM
Definition, please, for post-election sycophanticide.
Posted by: Flatus
| October 26, 2008 7:27 AM
nice one from anchorage......here's another.....in re the mayor of Ketchikan.....
http://www.adn.com/politics/story/522583.html
Posted by: sturgeone | October 26, 2008 7:29 AM
Wouldn't it be neat if Ms Pelosi lost her seat.
Posted by: Flatus
| October 26, 2008 7:33 AM
TT
I put up the Chinese age test several month ago. It's nice to know that I am still 32, but then I've been 32 for 32 years. :-)
Posted by: Jamie
| October 26, 2008 7:34 AM
Or at least her place on the Congressional Throne.
Posted by: Flatus
| October 26, 2008 7:35 AM
People wondered why Harold Ford challanged her for that position -- but I think he just knew how bad she'd be....
Posted by: Patsi
| October 26, 2008 7:41 AM
Patsi you want to do feminism a favor, find a speeding bus and dive under it.
Posted by: BrianInNYC | October 25, 2008 10:38 PM
I say, doesnt this cross some sort of line or another? Or is it just "cute"..........
Posted by: sturgeone | October 26, 2008 7:43 AM
When do you think Harold will resurface as an elected office seeker?
Posted by: Flatus
| October 26, 2008 7:44 AM
An insult to feminism?? Of course not.
Pelosi had a wonderful chance to succeed. She didn't. Time to find someone else.
That's feminism as it should be.
Posted by: Flatus
| October 26, 2008 7:49 AM
Flatus -- the post of Brian's that sturge pointed to came yesterday -- and yes, it does cross a line. For some reason there are people here who think Brian's continual references to violence against others is just fine. Just part of his "personality" don't ya know....sad how he has influenced a lot of people who now tend to yuk it up over that sort of thing.
Posted by: Patsi
| October 26, 2008 8:18 AM
I don't know what Harold will ultimately do. He's got a lot on his plate now...and probably making some money for a change.
Posted by: Patsi
| October 26, 2008 8:20 AM
Patsi. I don't think they're a bit cute. Maybe it's a Manhattan thing. But, I thought they had changed their in-your-face ways in recent years. So, maybe it's just Brian's misanthropic personality. In any case, I agree that it's not a bit nice.
Posted by: Flatus
| October 26, 2008 8:26 AM
It's not a manhattan thing.....the people I know in NYC would stomp on someone exhibiting that type of behavior...........
Posted by: sturgeone | October 26, 2008 8:48 AM
harold's a television guy now........he probably digs it......
Posted by: sturgeone | October 26, 2008 8:49 AM
Ha ........brokaw playing clips of McCain claiming to be very close to pres bush.............
McCain tap dancing.......furiously
Posted by: sturgeone | October 26, 2008 9:06 AM
Mornin all
Just talked to the wife, 4 more days she'll be home.
Sunday mornin' coming down
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Cru2ld06-A
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| October 26, 2008 9:08 AM
McCain: Those polls are CA-RAZY.
Posted by: sturgeone | October 26, 2008 9:09 AM
Sturg, actually it wasn't really what you wrote that I was referring to... but anyway, we can agree that more unites us than divides us, eh?
Posted by: EuroTom
| October 26, 2008 9:11 AM
ETom.....beyond question........pet peeves are squiggley.....and not to get in the way of more major issues.......
Posted by: sturgeone | October 26, 2008 9:13 AM
Patsi you want to do feminism a favor, find a speeding bus and dive under it.
Posted by: BrianInNYC | October 25, 2008 10:38 PM
I say, doesnt this cross some sort of line or another? Or is it just "cute"..........
Posted by: sturgeone | October 26, 2008 7:43 AM
Yes it does cross over the line, and it wasn't cute. I think Brian would, upon retrospect, would agree. But I did cringe when I saw it. I admire Patsi very much and I have come to like Brian and respect his intelligence. I wish they could find a sort of common ground. But then I haven't been so successful with a few in here either, so I am not here to condemn... just thoughts rolling through my head.
Posted by: EuroTom
| October 26, 2008 9:16 AM
Sturg, I actually like it when you and Renee refer to me as ETom. Sounds cool !!!
Posted by: EuroTom
| October 26, 2008 9:17 AM
Good morning, Tom....or is it afternoon there?
Posted by: Patsi
| October 26, 2008 9:17 AM
And I remember very well how we were on the same side for Hillary so you're a friend for life dude! :)
Posted by: EuroTom
| October 26, 2008 9:17 AM
2:18 pm Patsi, how's be it with you...
Posted by: EuroTom
| October 26, 2008 9:18 AM
Patsi, I am about to read your 1980 article... I'll be back soon
love ya!
Posted by: EuroTom
| October 26, 2008 9:19 AM
" I wish they could find a sort of common ground. But then I haven't been so successful with a few in here either, so I am not here to condemn... "
Brian actually has pulled back some on the personal insults, so there's that.
Posted by: Patsi
| October 26, 2008 9:19 AM
I am privileged to be considered so..........merci
Posted by: sturgeone | October 26, 2008 9:20 AM
Good Morning all.
Yeah Sturge it's about as cute as
" Hey you got a cyanide capsule ready to bite down on when the election is called? If not, let me know, I'll find one for you."Posted by: BrianInNYC | October 25, 2008 4:39 PM
Posted by: oldseahag
| October 26, 2008 9:24 AM
Patsi, GREAT editorial... I see the your wit also runs in the family. I particularly love the comment from your sister: "When it was all over Brother Tom stood by the door shaking hands, and he asked my sister Jo Ellen, what she thought of Billy James's revelations. She said she thought Billy James was a lunatic and a racist pig and ought to be locked up where he couldn't hurt anybody. "
Although written in 1980, it does bring sharp relevance to the discussion of the rise of the Religious "Right". I would like to add it to my blog if that is ok with you, and maybe share it with some friends along the way.
Posted by: EuroTom
| October 26, 2008 9:29 AM
seahag: thanks for the link on the Alliance to Protect Nantucket Sound -- bookmarked it (for reading up after the election).
FYI: here's the link again, for others interested in offshore wind farming technology and environmental issues:
http://www.saveoursound.org/site/PageServer
Posted by: dog's eye view | October 26, 2008 9:31 AM
Good Morning all.
Yeah Sturge it's about as cute as
" Hey you got a cyanide capsule ready to bite down on when the election is called? If not, let me know, I'll find one for you."Posted by: BrianInNYC | October 25, 2008 4:39 PM
Posted by: oldseahag | October 26, 2008 9:24 AM
WOW... how did I miss that one? If it's any help I've been on the receiving end too, as have many of us. He isn't the only one to do it, but he is the most capable in creating these one line zingers. I had to look beyond those raw zingers to see the points he was really making. The guy is intelligent for sure, and in spite of these posts, I think he is a good and caring person.
Posted by: EuroTom
| October 26, 2008 9:33 AM
You're welcome Dog's eye and thank you for your interest. We need all the help we can get against this disaster of a project!
Posted by: oldseahag
| October 26, 2008 9:35 AM
Interesting that the Anchorage Daily News endorsed Obama. Kudos to Jamie for finding that one.
http://www.adn.com/opinion/view/story/567867.html
=============
EuroTom: I emailed you about 3 days ago. Did it arrive safely? Not sure I used a current email address.
Posted by: dog's eye view | October 26, 2008 9:36 AM
Perhaps there should be a special financial disincentive applied to utility costs of communities that decline to allow such things as wind farms.
Posted by: Flatus
| October 26, 2008 9:37 AM
patsi......i left the window up all night and it never came up......could you maybe send the editorial again when you get a chance? Thanks, again large sizes.........
Posted by: sturgeone | October 26, 2008 9:38 AM
Craig
It is Olberman, Strictly koolaid imo.
A lot of the stuff presented isn't Palin as much as a disconnect between Palin's view of herself and the view the McCain's campaign staff have been trying to create.
It seems the Washington insiders on McCain's staff are a bit troubled by the back woods image Palin projects and have been doing their best to soften it.
McCain's problem isn't Palin, in fact an argument can be made that with out Palin it would be much worse for him.
McCain's problem is the economy and the fact that he has never created a solution to the problems from a conservative pov. It may be that there is no solution with a conservative bent but sounding like Bush the elder (and being a warmed over version at that) isn't going to work.
The Mortgage crises hit him like a ton of bricks and then the middle class folks all got there 401k quarterly statements at the same time. All that knocked Palin out of the picture. She is only relevant to people like you who need something to say besides. "God are we really headed for another great depression?"
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| October 26, 2008 9:42 AM
dog I think I got it, but I am BEHIND in the emails... will look now, and my apologies !!!
Posted by: EuroTom
| October 26, 2008 9:44 AM
Obama nears the "now what?" moment
If elected, he'll likely, as he has done all his life, take the path of least resistance.
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/obama-most-one-2205757-world-people
Posted by: Michael | October 26, 2008 9:51 AM
DEV... you got mail :D
Posted by: EuroTom
| October 26, 2008 9:51 AM
"FYI: here's the link again, for others interested in offshore wind farming technology and environmental issues:"
That link is really fascinating. I didn't have a good grasp of what was going on with this situation.
Posted by: Patsi
| October 26, 2008 9:52 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/palin-the-running-weight.html#comment-163898
Or a special incentive to those that do. which would be easier to prove.
Just make alternative energy required % of the mix then give the communities that have such things a reduction on what they pay.
A bit like one of the local communities that allows a landfill to be operated and expanded. Resdents get free use of the land fill.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| October 26, 2008 9:52 AM
"i left the window up all night and it never came up......could you maybe send the editorial again when you get a chance? Thanks, again large sizes........."
I'll try again!
Posted by: Patsi
| October 26, 2008 9:54 AM
Looks like Patsi missed the bus! Morning peeps
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| October 26, 2008 9:55 AM
Patsi
Send the article my way if you would.
thanks
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| October 26, 2008 9:56 AM
nice sailing boat on that wind link.......makes my 22' macgregor look like a bath toy......lol
Posted by: sturgeone | October 26, 2008 9:56 AM
Good Morning all
Patsi you want to do feminism a favor,keep fighting the good fight against those who have a problem with strong woman and if you see a bus stop and look as it passes you by!!! The world needs you,we need you!! T
Posted by: tonyb39
| October 26, 2008 9:56 AM
oh boy.....will surely be nice to see Lindsay Graham go back to private practise......
Posted by: sturgeone | October 26, 2008 10:03 AM
Friend of the Devil
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0877FWNLZ98
Posted by: whskyjack
| October 26, 2008 10:04 AM
Thanks Tom! Good to know email still works.
I am a troglodyte who prefers email, still, to Facebook and myspace. Need to learn to use them (goes into the "after November 5" queue...)
How about the rest of you?
Posted by: dog's eye view | October 26, 2008 10:06 AM
Sturge
the nut case I want to see go home is Chamblis in Georgia. Was looking at the polls last night and it looks close.If Obama has any coat tails............
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| October 26, 2008 10:07 AM
Ah I have learned how to appreciate MySpace and Facebook. If any of you folks are interested, here are my links:
http://www.myspace.com/eurotom
and/or
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1441770734&ref=profile
Feel free to drop by for a visit and become a friend. I really love people, pets and the rest... :-)
Posted by: EuroTom
| October 26, 2008 10:08 AM
jack.......from your keyboard to the monitors of the gods..........all of them.................
"special place in hell" for chambliss.......and graham should be the doorman........
Posted by: sturgeone | October 26, 2008 10:09 AM
Times has updated it's map
Obama 286
McCain 163
http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/president/whos-ahead/key-states/map.html
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| October 26, 2008 10:12 AM
"special place in hell" McCain's quoted statement in re. Tucker Eskew after Mac's 2000 primary run in SC.
Posted by: sturgeone | October 26, 2008 10:12 AM
"am a troglodyte who prefers email, still, to Facebook and myspace. Need to learn to use them (goes into the "after November 5" queue...)
How about the rest of you"
dog -- be careful with those places. I tried to link to the site of a friend's daughter, and I thought I was just following instructions -- and came within an INCH of letting the site send an email to my entire address book, asking them to "be my friend." GOD! A lot of those in the address book are business contacts. It would have been a disaster.
Posted by: Patsi
| October 26, 2008 10:16 AM
"the nut case I want to see go home is Chamblis in Georgia. Was looking at the polls last night and it looks close.If Obama has any coat tails............"
Ditto that -- likewise Norm Coleman. The thought that he followed Paul Wellstone to the senate makes me sick.
Posted by: Patsi
| October 26, 2008 10:17 AM
For those of you who didn't stay up till 2 am and watch the Phillies win.
"This was midnight madness and then some on a rainy night that pushed the start to 10:06 p.m. and it wrapped up at 1:47 a.m. Ruiz, Chase Utley and Ryan Howard homered for the Phils, but it took three kooky plays to win it on a bases-loaded trickler with no outs."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081026/ap_on_sp_ba_ga_su/bbo_world_series
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| October 26, 2008 10:19 AM
that special place is going to be very crowded.......tancredo, hunter, mcconnel, graham,
chambliss, coleman, just to scratch the surface.........where they'll be awaited by DeLay, Gingrich, Frist, Geo. Allen, already in place............going to be a grand old party.......
Posted by: sturgeone | October 26, 2008 10:25 AM
Dems predicting ‘earthquake’ election
Democratic pollster Stan Greenberg said Friday that his party is in position for “an earthquake election” come Nov. 4.
“Nothing is going to look the same,” Greenberg said, joined by Democratic strategist James Carville at a breakfast with reporters hosted by The Christian Science Monitor.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14911.html
*happy dance*
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| October 26, 2008 10:26 AM
So long, its been good to know you.
Woody
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqiblXFlZuk
Posted by: whskyjack
| October 26, 2008 10:31 AM
It amazes me how repug southern New Mexico actually is! Obama will most likely win the state by the votes in the Albuqueruqe and Santa Fe, however, the southern part of the state seems lost to him...Obama has not held a large rally in this area as previous candidates had done -- Kerry, Gore and Bush.
The front page of both the El Paso Times and Las Cruces Sun News detail McCain's visit and follow with a little blurb on Hillary's visit to a much smaller town.
http://www.lcsun-news.com/
http://www.elpasotimes.com
Dems really do not have a good ground game here...
Posted by: Blonde wino
| October 26, 2008 10:32 AM
And yet again we are left asking, why is McCain wasting his time in Iowa.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| October 26, 2008 10:33 AM
Sturge- You sail a lot? We (my kids and I) have a 26 ft. pearson with no rudder and a 25 ft. seibelmann with a leaky smoking engine. The annual plan is to for me to cook up a storm and load the cooler ( I get real thirsty sailing!) and go all day every Sunday. During the week sunset cruises are planned after I close the shop. Well we only got out a few times this year. So I cooked and loaded the cooler and sat on the mooring!
Posted by: oldseahag
| October 26, 2008 10:34 AM
CONCORD, N.H. - Barack Obama has vaulted to a 15-point lead over John McCain in New Hampshire, according to a new Boston Globe poll, a significant gap in a state that McCain considers his second political home and has long been a swing state in the race for the White House.
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2008/articles/2008/10/26/for_obama_a_new_cause_for_confidence___and_for_caution/
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| October 26, 2008 10:35 AM
I dislike Facebook and Myspace. They both, IMO, trivialize relationships by hanging them out like laundry on the line. And, when something is entered on either of those sites, the content is around forever without the context that is present in more of threaded discussion.
I much prefer Usenet to any of the more current social environments.
Posted by: Flatus
| October 26, 2008 10:38 AM
I find the postings here so appallingly naive. Hasn't anyone gotten the memo, yet? Don't you people read newspapers? The Republican Party is passé, obsolete, null and void of all content. Some guy named Alan Greenspan told the truth for everyone to hear.
The entire Republican platform and all their policies have been shown to be the greatest sham played on the American people since the last Great Depression, also caused by uncontrolled Republican fiscal policy, a policy built on greed and nothing but greed. Reaganomics and the conquer all neo-con agenda is dead. Not only did Reaganomics break the bank, it broke all the banks. It broke the insurance companies, the car companies and almost every small business in the country. Not just our country but every country.
Keith Olbermann, by the way, is the only journalist willing to stand up and speak the truth. (Rachel Maddow has stepped up, too.) He is the antithesis of the right-wing programmed screaming heads, the ones without a message or a mind to speak it. People like Limbaugh, Hannity and Kristol who simply repeat the propaganda issued by the Republican National Committee, one of the worlds most dangerous crime and terror organizations. All that remains of their "message" is the fear and hatred they have served up since Barry Goldwater accused the media of leading him to hate all Americans who would not vote for him. Such a petty individual, somewhat like the Bush clan.
Finally it looks like America will be taken back for the people, not the bankrupt big businesses that have been running the Republican Party for grossly huge profits that broke the American economy.
Posted by: Bruce Harris | October 26, 2008 10:43 AM
"It amazes me how repug southern New Mexico actually is! Obama will most likely win the state by the votes in the Albuqueruqe and Santa Fe, however, the southern part of the state seems lost to him..."
I'll be interested in seeing what happens in Denver and Colorado Springs....The Springs is seriously right wing...we used to laugh that Denver and Aspen had to offset the rest of the state. A bit of an oversimplification, but....
Posted by: Patsi
| October 26, 2008 10:44 AM
"I find the postings here so appallingly naive. "
And I find the rest of YOUR post appallingly naive. We've been blasting Reagan's leading this country to hell for years. Back off, Buster.
Posted by: Patsi
| October 26, 2008 10:46 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/palin-the-running-weight.html#comment-163930
Usenet? That's soooo 20th century ! :-)
Posted by: EuroTom
| October 26, 2008 10:48 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/palin-the-running-weight.html#comment-163931
I think coming into a blog and opening up with a statement that says "I find the postings here so appallingly naive. " to be a wrong way to introduce yourself or your ideas.
As for Olbermann, he is sometimes interesting, but his sexist, anti-Hillary bullshit in the primary pretty much did me in toward him and his big mouth bullying. And before you accuse me of being some sort of right wing nut case, I am fully supporting Obama and have already voted for him.
As Patsi said, "Back off, Buster"...
Posted by: EuroTom
| October 26, 2008 10:50 AM
Brian great comment in that link you provided from Boston.com
"Harry Nelson, a 79-year-old retired Wall Street money manager who participated in the poll and agreed to speak with a reporter afterward, said the next president will enter the White House under conditions similar to those that faced Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1933. Obama, he said, has "some of the same stuff" as Roosevelt and could be a "transformational leader."
"If you look at the way he runs his campaign, it's been brilliant," said Nelson, an undeclared voter who lives in Hanover. "I don't think he's an economic expert, but he doesn't have to be - he picks good people. . . . That's what management is all about, isn't it?" "
Posted by: EuroTom
| October 26, 2008 10:53 AM
Nice post Bruce.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| October 26, 2008 10:54 AM
Hey
Patsi, Tom ,
Bruce is just a drive by poster, He is gonna set us straight in one post of incredible wisdom. As if that could be done. I've been giving you all my wisdom for a long time. And do you pay any attention? Noooooooo.
Just a hard headed bunch of stubborn people. That is all I have to say.
BTW Patsi, spell check is telling me you are spelling your name wrong. Just thought you would like to know
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| October 26, 2008 10:58 AM
Wisdom? LOL. Jack I never realized till now you have a sense of humor. funny.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| October 26, 2008 11:00 AM
Great day today. I'm gonna do yard work.
later
Posted by: whskyjack
| October 26, 2008 11:01 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/palin-the-running-weight.html#comment-163939
Hey,
My pleasure.
later
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| October 26, 2008 11:07 AM
Jes'um crow Brian - Can you ever just leave people be? Have you ever heard" If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all"?
Posted by: oldseahag
| October 26, 2008 11:12 AM
Bruce...you sound like you find the entire country naive...perhaps, it is time for you to move. Remember that fine repug chant...love it or leave it!
Posted by: Blonde wino
| October 26, 2008 11:14 AM
sup hag?
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| October 26, 2008 11:18 AM
I have told you many before that my name is not hag, stop with the juvenile bullshit.
Posted by: oldseahag
| October 26, 2008 11:19 AM
I'm taking the dogs out, but before I do let me leave you all with these three words,
Obama, Reid, Pelosi!
Discuss.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| October 26, 2008 11:23 AM
Sturg----will get the Robert Ringer book, i have always felt certain things--- everyone has looked up at a calm night full of stars and felt spiritual, what they are looking at is part of themselves. I would love to have these theories taught side by side in any classroom that the people that thing the earth is only 6-10mil old------along with true history of the all religions and the popes etc etc,,the good and the bad, i think that it would open a lot of minds that are corrupted since the day their parents start brainwashing them with not believable fables, i started asking questions in catholic school, and expressed confusion, and doubt about the father, son. and the holy ghost being all the same person, that used to get me a few wacks from sister may adrieane, and the rest of the week in the penalty box------in the clothes----i learned a lot of thing about all the kids in that closet,,, i think i even saw sister mary's vibrater-haha
Flatus,,,the person that i would like to see replace pelosi, is Romm Emmanuel, he is from il and probably know Obama, and the people that he knows well. he would get his agenda passed a lot easier, and we would find out what kind of potus he would make right away,,,,,,i hope that he can just get a cpl of big important things done, health care for all is one of them .thanks
Posted by: SolarCrete
| October 26, 2008 11:27 AM
" I've been giving you all my wisdom for a long time. And do you pay any attention? Noooooooo."
ROFL, Jack. You are wrong. I have been compiling your wisdom in The Book of Whiskey Jack
and don't I know that my name is mispelled. My older sisters refused to call the new baby "Patricia" and nicknamed me....they thought Patsy with an "i" was revolutionary. Ig'nert.
Posted by: Patsi
| October 26, 2008 11:27 AM
Bruce...sorry....I am so upset about McCain getting better press coverage here when his rally was much smaller than Hillary Clinton's rally. "Hey, ours was bigger than theirs!" The local papers have given the repugs much front page coverage...and as Patsi noted, it is the military nature of the area.
I found the intent of the homemade signs against Obama so repugnant!
Again, my apologies.
Posted by: Blonde wino
| October 26, 2008 11:37 AM
Mornin to all...
Hey the junk bond rated NYTimes has a good article on the impact of higher taxes. A perfect case study so when you go to vote keep this in mind.
The Good news is starting - do not let any new government screw up the correction
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/26/us/26rhode.html?_r=1&oref=login
Posted by: Ping Pong
| October 26, 2008 11:47 AM
SolarCrete... Nicely said.
Anyone who does not question then I question if they really think and believe?
Oh my if Nancy and Harry stay - I do not think so... If Barack - he has to much IQ to put up with those idiots
Posted by: Ping Pong
| October 26, 2008 11:51 AM
God wasn't McCain's appearance on MTP just the saddest thing you've ever seen.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| October 26, 2008 12:02 PM
Sorry Bruce – You may play to most of this crowd but your argument hold little truth.
The antipathies of Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddox are just the antithesis of Limbaugh, Hannity. They are all ENTERTAINERS. To call Keith Olbermann a Journalist is an insult to the true professional journalist. Which not knowing your age you may not relate - as in recent years they are hard to find. AM Joe got his message – Olbermann in time will get his.
Secondly – this current correction is needed and a result of bad balance sheets that went the wrong direction primarily based on not maintaining the fundamentals of sound accounting and economics. And you are correct – the true Republican values have not been represented and Bush has acted complacent – allowed this to happen by not standing the ground and allowing bad fiscal policy to happen.
Posted by: Ping Pong
| October 26, 2008 12:03 PM
Bruce -- As Barack continues his CHANGE to the middle and matures to understand that big business is not evil - which Barack is stating to understand.
And his policy moves more to that of McCain and Hillary - will you hold to your liberal values - or is it just the hate for Bush thing?
Posted by: Ping Pong
| October 26, 2008 12:07 PM
Brian-----do you have real dog's---i mean dogs that you can hear bark or something, they don't get very much time out when you take them for a walk, unless they do their bizns out in the hall way, which would make others in the building pretty mad, or r you the only one left in the building?
Posted by: SolarCrete
| October 26, 2008 12:07 PM
Sorry, Senator. Let's Salvage What We Can.
By David Frum
Sunday, October 26, 2008
There are many ways to lose a presidential election. John McCain is losing in a way that threatens to take the entire Republican Party down with him.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/23/AR2008102302081.html?nav=rss_print/outlook
With friends like David Frum who needs enemies.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| October 26, 2008 12:09 PM
Too funny, just now on Blitzer's show when Heather Wilson was asked about Palin's shopping spree she made a crack about Biden's hair plugs. The of course launched into the repug catch phrase of the week "Obama, Pelosi, and Reid"
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| October 26, 2008 12:11 PM
yeah I'm the only one left in the building, the other 47 apartments are all empty.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| October 26, 2008 12:15 PM
Flatus – did you get caught yet? I gotta go finish some chores….
Will check back later - see if any response to these open items.
1 –gifting demographics – And impacts
2 – The impact of high taxes on RI as a case study and concerns to tip it too far
3 – Who has the lowest IQ – Nancy, Harry, Barney?
4 - Does Craig really have his own hair and natural color?
5 – Good news is Bad news for Barack – but hey maybe to late as the correct turn is starting
6 – Rays or Phillies
Posted by: Ping Pong
| October 26, 2008 12:19 PM
Ping Pong, it is ALL about incompetent leadership from America's greatest enemies - repugs!
Pick up a history book some time. The single motivation the GOP - Greedy Old Party - has is huge profits over all else.
Before Reagan broke our economy a 10% annual profit was considered a very good return. Under the sham of Reaganomics anything under 30% annual growth was considered failure. Uncontrolled growth like that is maintained artificially over any extended period of time - like 5 years - and resulted in the 1987-1989 recession. But the greedy ones didn't learn their lesson.
Remember trickle down? Never happened.
All those jobs to be created by cutting taxes for the rich? Never happened. People don't create jobs, businesses do. Only they didn't create more jobs, they exported those jobs to Latin America and Asain.
You ask me the guy is basically right, the GOP has managed itself into meaninglessness. Let's hope the rest of the country doesn't follow.
Posted by: NovaB | October 26, 2008 12:25 PM
Don't miss the Daily Beast today. Good article on potential Obama Cabinet as well as the SNL video of Barack and Michelle from last night
http://www.thedailybeast.com/
Posted by: Jamie
| October 26, 2008 12:26 PM
God wasn't McCain's appearance on MTP just the saddest thing you've ever seen.
Posted by: BrianInNYC Author Profile Page | October 26, 2008 12:02 PM
Posted by: No. You are. | October 26, 2008 12:26 PM
"-- As Barack continues his CHANGE to the middle and matures to understand that big business is not evil - which Barack is stating to understand."
Ping, Have you actually seen evidence of that? A change to the middle?
Posted by: chloe
| October 26, 2008 12:29 PM
That's just wishful thinking on Ping's part
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| October 26, 2008 12:32 PM
The last shred of policy left to the GOP is the personal attack. They don't even have that greed thing left.
McCain claims to want de-regulation while callling for the need to re-regulate? Enough to make your head spin. Him and his ilk have been nothing more than a rubber stamp for the worst President in U.S. history. It has gotten so bad there isn't anything left to hate, just pity. The burned out shell that was George W. Bush has already begun instituting President Obama's policies.
Think about it - America for Americans.
But what will the right-wing hate machine do? McCain has already whipped them up to threaten violence. In some cases the hate-crimes have already begun. What kind of "conservative" ideology is that?
Posted by: NovaB | October 26, 2008 12:33 PM
You do make me laugh occasionally.
Posted by: chloe
| October 26, 2008 12:34 PM
The people who stampeded the vote on the bailout and Obama was one of them, demonstrated centrist conventional thinking and sheep like behavior. The bailout benefited big banking.
Of course there is the FISA vote earlier this year. He was against it before he was for it.
Posted by: fact check please! | October 26, 2008 12:37 PM
Wag the Blog: Obama Moves to the Middle
"What makes Obama's 'textbook' dash to the center so extraordinary is not just its speed, but how it falsifies the very essence of his candidacy. It's as if Bill Clinton won the Democratic nomination in 1992 and announced suddenly that actually he was not a 'new kind of Democrat'; or if George W. Bush, after winning his party's nomination in 2000, forswore 'compassionate conservatism'; or if John McCain, after winning the GOP nomination this year, declared in favor of a hard deadline for withdrawal from Iraq
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/07/wag_the_blog_obamas_shift_to_t.html
Posted by: fact check please! | October 26, 2008 12:41 PM
Hey Brian,
Scientists found your ancestors:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/3225729/Stone-Age-man-took-drugs-say-scientists.html
Posted by: Jamie
| October 26, 2008 12:42 PM
LOL@Jamie, I knew it all along!
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| October 26, 2008 12:45 PM
Jack----OSH-----made a large pot of this, and froze in 4 diff containers, goes a long way, a very cheap,but very good imo.
single recipe----Round meat ( pot roast) and 1-2 large soup bones
2 lbs meat, that you wash and place in a pot with cilantro, 1 large onion, 1-3 tomatoes, salt to taste, let simmer till meats is tender,them you put in vegies, 2-3 large zuchinni, i cut them up in round slices, 3 large corn on the cob cut in 1/2, carrots, and cabbage ( jack is right make you soups fresh and crunchy sliced cabbage is the ticket) you can eat this (mexican style soup) with rice and lemons, or with out that i like.the trick of it is the water i use about 1/4-to 1/3 gal.
Mexican rice.....my way
1 large cup of brown rice----don't like the starch in white, open up one can of corn, one can of peas and drain fluid do not throw away put in an other cup, dice 1 large onion, dice 1 large tomato or 2, a little cilantro, and a little tomato sauce (i use a little salsa) about 2-3 large spoons and set aside-------put in a frying pan little oil,,any then put in the rice-----hey where you going,,,,,,watch that rice it cooks fast,,,don't make me come over there,,,,,turn the rice over and over until it gets a little brown, then put in the 3 spoons of salsa of sauce, keep turning the rice until it stops sizzling then put in the liquid from the corn and the peas and 2 more cups of water. then add all the rest of,,,cover on low heat until all water evaporates,,,,,,,you can put this in the soup above or like do with any other meal---i like it with fish.
both are very cheap and goes a long way----hope you like it
Posted by: SolarCrete
| October 26, 2008 1:11 PM
solar, craig sneaked a new thread in on us. your recipe deserves to be read. sounds like you're very much at home in the kitchen and can wield a wicked soup ladle.
Posted by: patd | October 26, 2008 1:19 PM
Stone age man was the most or one of the most successful of 9 hominids that lived----a little herb aint all bad
Posted by: SolarCrete
| October 26, 2008 1:20 PM
forgot to say: suggest you repost it on new thread.
Posted by: patd | October 26, 2008 1:21 PM
i think that they were the first to coin the phrase-----Sup dude----or sup rez :)
Posted by: SolarCrete
| October 26, 2008 1:22 PM
Ping,
Stinky had me up at 0530. Ate breakfast, did four loads of laundry, ate lunch, did the dishes and took a two hour nap--all by 1300. The only job left is filling the medicine dispensers for the next week--a 45-minute job. After that, nothing left to do except mutter about how the Rays wuz robbed.
I love it when the Times talks tax policy. In their own house, they've shrunk their product and boosted its price. Let's see how that works for them.
Posted by: Flatus
| October 26, 2008 1:34 PM
wino,
I read somewhere Obama has usurped the Hispanic vote out from under McCain. I wonder how that figures into the southern NM vote.
Posted by: Rezdog
| October 26, 2008 2:43 PM
forgot the link;
http://www.latimes.com/news/la-na-latinos26-2008oct26,0,4192939.story?track=rss
Posted by: Rezdog
| October 26, 2008 2:59 PM
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