Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

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Craig,

Sorry I couldn't get over there from DC. There was an outside chance this morning, but my daughter had other plans for me. We'll make it someday.

EdVB

no sweat, EdVB, it was a long drive, but scenic

They got to hear you for FREE?!

I had nothing to say, but wasn't going to pass up first post bragging rights, such as they are.

It's the cyber version of freshly poured cement.

Craig - will you be traveling down to Gainesville, Florida anytime soon for your book stops? If not, you should!

Palin schedules bus tour of West Virginia

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/10/palin-schedules-bus-tour-of-west-virginia/

LOL

"Craig - will you be traveling down to Gainesville, Florida anytime soon for your book stops? If not, you should! Posted by: Politics of Utopia"

would luv to, PoU. had a great time there at the university book store for my first book.

Did she get impeached yet?

and by the way, anybody with an idea for drawing a crowd to sell books can always contact my agent, who works me like a dog:

Diane Nine
ninespeakers@usa.net

Rez you're such a sexist!

Burlington Vermont, Craig. Cmonnnn you KNOW you want to see New England in the fall!!!

sounds good, tylenol

So does anyone see the humor in the fact that all these all these McCain supporters are calling Obama a socialist but it's George W. Bush that's nationalizing the banks?

Rez you're a pig and you disgust me. And while I may disagree with everything that Palin stands for I know all her enemies are only against her because she's a woman. Now please leave me alone for a few minutes, I'm composing my letter to the DNC explaining why I'm leaving the party.

Sorry, I didn't mean to offend anyone., especially you.

* trys to find the tilda key*

And besides she could only shoot him if he was running on a snow field and she was chasing him down from a single engine airplane. You know nothing about Alaska and real Americas. What do we really know about you anyway Rez. Who is Rez?

Craig that mortgage bailout plan of McCain's that you were promoting doesn't seem to have too much backing from too many economists who have endoresed McCain.

"Many of the professional economists who formally endorsed John McCain's economic plan are expressing bewilderment with his most recent proposal to rectify the home mortgage crisis."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/10/economists-for-mccain-tra_n_133718.html

Craig -- I'm only a few roads away from you in Easton, MD this weekend. I could not get out of VA fast enough this weekend --t traffic was a bear tonight! Too bad I didn't know about your Milton appearance earlier or I could have made it part of my trip. Will you get to stay over for the weekend? The weather is going to be gorgeous at the beach.

LOL, God forbid she ends up in the WH or anywhere near it.. I think she'd make us all wish Cheney never left.

I didn't see the pundit, just heard the comment on the tv in background and it makes sense to me. Paraphrasing, "this is what happens when Sarah mixes her personal business with the publics.

I've been to Milton , PA but not the Delaware counterpart.

I was enrolled in college a mere three days after I got back from my army tour of Vietnam, in 1971.

The woman's name, sitting in the next chair in my lit class was
Shelley. My actual middle name is Milton.

The lit prof thought that was a good omen to start the school term off. Yes, we did get around to Paradise Lost .

I have never heard "OFF WITH HIS HEAD!!" uttered in anger and murderous tones before last night when I finally clearly heard the repug supporter of McInsane shout it.
These McCain supporters are a bunch of lunatics.
I suppose we've all heard the 'KILL HIM' epithet uttered a few days ago at a McSame rally , aimed at Obama.

Sometimes I think "it's great we're finally past that", when I recall the racism I grew up with, watching on TV in the 1960s, mostly. Then I see Neanderthals telling McInsane that Obama is "uh Arab".

Her name is Nine?

Really?

tt

They have nothing else.

So 'they' keep on about that Ayers nothingness.

tt

TT: You sweep I'll mop.

Dexter Johnson,
I've been watching prez campaigns since '52, and this "Off with his head" takes the red ribbon for disgusting incitement to riot, mayhem, and murder.

I am told by a more senior member of the family that the dixiecrats, who bolted the Democratic Party after Hubert Humphrey's '48 Convention speech, were even worse than mccain's mob of terrorists. strom thurmond, the republican rapist and professional hate-monger was their candidate. The dixiecrat klan opposed Federal laws against lynchings, because such laws interfered with the States' sovereign rights to ignore any murder committed by white men and enjoyed by white picnickers. So, "Off with his head" appears to be a mark of some progress after 60 years.

The white 'knight' is talking backwards, and the red queen's off her head.

The 'troopergate story' is a nothingburger.

Alaskans will side with palin, and prolly invent a new medal to pin on the her enforcer-man.

Compared to cheney using the Secret Service to avoid a breathalyzer after he shot that other turkey, and compared to rove & scooter destroying the utility of America's most valuable spy, this shitty little abuse of office is insignificant.

Besides, palin has no more chance of becoming veep than GORDO has of demonstrating that Obama is an illegal alien. And, if she has no chance to succeed in her latest hunt, there is no sense in getting worked up about her.

Back to bed. G'night all.

WARNING - the following is an extremely long post, even for me. With a few exceptions, it is my post to Solar Crete about Mexico. I tell you this so you can skip it fro the first if you want to. Sorry for the length, but we were involved in some heavy stuff.

x-rep - I am delighted the "business" with Flatus has been cleared up. You two are some of my favorites.
It may sound as if I have a lot of favorites so the "label" means nothing - but not so. There are many who are not my favorites, even if I do not disagree with them.

Sturge - I also would love to hear you playing the pianney. Maybe we could pitch in and pay for a recording. Also, re Douglas - he sounds a little, to me, like Reilly, Ace of Spies.

Solar Crete - the question I referred to was on a small post. I might have already answered it. As to the rest:

#1----Mexicans are Indians, and Spanish-----I was born in Mexico and have spanish blood from my mothers side (Gama-a spanish name) My pop is Indian.

--------- I know that Mexicans are a mix of Spanish and Indian, but I have trouble believing that there was a national identity of "Mexican" back in the days when Americans were flooding into California and Texas. While I am sure the Spanish mixed with Indians, I find it almost impossible to believe that the Spanish considiered the mixed race to be anything other than trash. (I have been assured too often by Mexicans that THEY themselves are really Spanish, not Mexican, today.)

What I mean by this is that the people who might be thought to be the real owners of all that land were the Indians who had lived on it and worked it for century after century. If we stole it, it was from the Indians, just like the rest of the country.

#2 -2nd---California was not basically a colony when it was invaded by us, in 1821 Mexico overthrew Spain's colonial rule, It became a SOVEREIGN NATION.

------It may have been what we today would consider a sovereign nation, but not a cohesive well-defined nation. It was still in a period of civil unrest, and was still a target for the rapacious west. France stuck its gallic nose in there, too. Also, I couldn't come up with a definitive map of the time, but think Mexico's claim to all of California was wishful thinking.

#3- That California belonged to Mexico did not deter Pres. Polk---he believed it was Americas Manifest Destiny ( he first tried to buy it several times--when Mexico refused---he used the conflict of Texas as excuse for invading,Texas was also illegal aquired) to one day occupy the Continent from Atlantic to Pacific, this ( in my opinion ) catch phrase gave the people(with the help of the Media) permission for expanionism, and divine sanction.

---i guess my trouble is with the idea that California belonged to Mexico. That we could buy California is an idea from those times. We bought the Louisiana Purchase from Napoleon after he got it from Toussaint
from Haiti - how ironic that we now have Bear here to converse with ( another of my favorites) and share experiences and opinions with.

I can't concieve of Napoleon's owning the Louisiana Territory to the point where he could sell it, any more than I can conceive of anyone owning another person.
But that's now, not then. Then, being a nation meant being able to protect the borders you claimed, and that meant having an organized capable government. I suspect the Pomo's and Mi-woks and other tribes in what is now California didn't get a vote or voice in any of the "ownwership" claims at the time.

California and Texas "got overtaken" by the fact that too many of their residents weren't happy with being part of Mexico - Americans who wandered into the land looking for land, and stayed there.

The people who lived there decided they wanted to be part of another nation - self-determination.

My only claim here is that the US didn't steal California from anybody. People moved there and settled there and that made the difference - Americans like to roam and then settle. The rest of Europe wanted to plunder and conquer - people with homes and families are formidable enemies.

I do not mean to say that foreign policies of any of the times in the past were fair or admirable or even tinged with integrity. They were universally corrupt and deceitful and venal and beastly and protected by churches (oh, those damned churches, again) and
obviously out-lived by more humane philosophies.

I am just saying that California was not stolen by anyone. Mexico was raped and pillaged by numerous forces and nations, and is still suffering today from its heritage as a Spanish colony. I suspect the descendants of those Mexicans who lived in what became California are mighty damned glad that their ancestors are from this side of the border.

If I have inadvertently said something that came across as narrow or bigoted or offensive, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. I am talking re a topic I've thought about a lot, but never put forth to anyone before, so am un-certain of my syntax.

Like you, I am horrified with the situation in Haiti, and even more horrified that no one seems to know what to do about it, or even care to. What a sad sad story from what seemed at one time to be so magnificent. I don't see it as pre-destination, however. I suppose if anyone could add to this conversation it would be Bear.
Bear?

"....and one we don't have to be ashamed of on Saturday morning"

oh the stories we could tell

be a hot time in the old toddlin' town tonight

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2008/10/oprah-to-raise-money-for-obama-tonight.html

Palin should have handled the whole thing like a man. Just kicked his ass.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmOOYxU99fI

Frankie

Tony Rezko talks:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081011/ap_on_el_pr/rezko_spilling_the_beans

Good morning all --

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/on-the-road-in-milton-de.html#comment-157687

Xrep -- Dixiecrats were still around in the 1960s and 1970s when George Wallace was running for the DEM nomination. My southern relatives mostly thought highly of Wallace and a couple of them were Wallace delegates to the DNC. They were very racist. This was my impression of the Democratic party as a child and didn't want to be a DEM -- so I was a GOP too.

Excellent post this morning, Bethy. It made me think about territorial claims in very general terms--not looking at the very specific happenings in the areas you are writing about.

Anybody or any country can claim anything. I remember back in the mid 70s when Ecuador claimed the space where geosynchronous satellites orbit. Quite obviously they had no ability to defend their claim except in philosophical terms. Bottom line, the claim was completely ignored.

It follows that, when a country makes a territorial claim, it had better be prepared to act militarily to enforce said claim. Kind of like the de facto claim Russia has made and defended in parts of sovereign Georgia.

There are lots of claims in between those two extremes like the bottom-grab for potentially productive oil fields beneath newly open Arctic waters.

If I was to be a lawyer, I'm sure I would find this area of law fascinating.

Just took the photo tour of Milton -- looks like a cute quaint new england town visited at the right time of the year. Glad you enjoyed.

Politics of Utopia: Lived in Gainesville, Fl. for 30 years before moving to Keystone Heights, just a stone's throw to Gainesville. Gainesville is an upbeat college town who would be excited with Craig's visit. Come on down!

Talk about the lengths someone will go to sell a book:

Bernake on C-SPAN Book TV Saturday

2:45 PM (East Coast Time) 32 min History
Ben Bernanke's "Essays on the Great Depression"

Theresa, my two closest friends moved to Keystone Heights in '96. They lived on a small lake outside of town. Had a marvelous garden and a menagerie including dogs, cats, geese and at least one goat.

They both died. Ed from lung cancer, and Barbara from a stroke.

They were brilliant people--I miss them more than words can express.

our beloved representatives:

http://blog.bicyclism.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/smoking-bozo.jpg

la mer.......charles trenet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd_nopTFuZA&feature=rec-fresh

As the worm turns.

"Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? Heh-heh-heh-heh-heh-heh-heh! The Shadow knows..."

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081011/D93O5M100.html

Did anyone mention that shopping in Delaware is tax-free? There are quaint shops in the towns such as Milton and especially Lewes, and the vast outlet malls near Rehoboth are not far away. And did I say there's no sales tax?

Oh Patsi,

Even your pebble sized brain doesn't think anyone on this list condones tasering kids and beating women. So just stop it.

Nice, the RCP national average is +7.4 for Obama! How sweet it is.

Oh Mr. Democrat

Even your lack of brain shouldn't prevent you from thinking everyone on this lists knows you are a racebaiting as-h-le who
likes being a victim

"This was my impression of the Democratic party as a child and didn't want to be a DEM -- so I was a GOP too. "

Same here, Alicia. I even went to a Young Rep meeting the first week of college. But they were seriously obnoxious. So I went to a Young Dem, and they were about the same. It was the early '60s and these guys were all wearing ties to class. I never went to another meeting.

"Bernake on C-SPAN Book TV Saturday
2:45 PM (East Coast Time) 32 min History
Ben Bernanke's "Essays on the Great Depression"

OMG! Jamie! Tell me you are joking!

"Even your pebble sized brain doesn't think anyone on this list condones tasering kids and beating women. So just stop it. "

Ha! You, of all people, talking about snap judgements and overstatements.

But since I did like your novel, I won't tell you what a dick I think you can be.

So you admit you made a snap judgment and overstatement?

"Negativity knows no bounds." - Van Hunt

Bethyboo'
Thanks. I like you, too. But I still feel bad.

Flatus,
I hope you have forgiven me for mis identifying you.

re any country claiming anything: there is a plaque on the bluff above the Mississippi near Diamond Bluff, WI commemorating the old French Fort St. Antoine. There, France claimed, not what they could control or what they could see, but all the land to the west of that point. I've always thought that was hilarious.

Flatus: Sorry to hear of your dear friends' deaths. That's the hard part of having meaningful friendships, Keystone Heights is a jewel of a place to live in Florida, as long as you don't yearn for the night life. We love it -- a great place to retire.

and by the way, anybody with an idea for drawing a crowd to sell books can always contact my agent, who works me like a dog:

In my house, as a dog, you would have it made! My dog doesn't work and she has a great supply of pupperonis.

"Flatus,
I hope you have forgiven me for mis identifying you. "

Yes, XR, you're forgiven. And, please excuse my testiness.

U.S. Removes North Korea From Terror Blacklist

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/washington/AP-US-Koreas-Nuclear.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

Ivy Green,

Your remark, "...the vast outlet malls near Rehoboth are not far away" makes this old Midwesterner chuckle. I never thought of any place in Delaware being far from any other. It is a new concept for me.

Thank you, Theresa. When Stinky and I visited KH, we enjoyed it. Considered moving there instead of Columbia, but it was farther from a military installation than we wanted to be.

My grandfather outlived all his friends, but he had many, many fond memories of them. So, I try to be philosophical.

Flatus,

Your testiness was completely understandable. Thanks.

Who would have thought WV would end up being a toss up state? We certainly are living in interesting times!

http://www.pollster.com/polls/wv/08-wv-pres-ge-mvo.php

Posted by: bethyboo | October 11, 2008 5:31 AM

Bethyboo...loved the post. A similar story in New Mexico (I live in a house that sits on land that used to be part of Mexico.) and as I have stated many times before, the American Indian (indigenous people of North and South America, to be pc) is the most trashed group in our society. I have always heard the germans studied the US policy of genocide of the American Indian as directive in attempting to wipeout the Jewish population last century.

I do not understand how anyone can abuse a people who gave us vanilla and chocolate.

The other night on CNN they ran this piece about a bunch of evangelical women in Florida who were big time Palin supporters. It was pretty strange. Anyone else see it? They kept saying things like "we get her", "she'd fit right in with us". You'd think after the last 8 years of Bush people would learn.

It not's that strange. Look at everything in this world. Policians, musicians, actors/actresses people you know in every day life. There are a lot of people in this world that I don't really like, yet others think the world of them. As I said before, I've seen more McCain/Palin signs here than I have Obama-Biden signs.

Obama has a double digit lead in Iowa. Why does John McCain keep returning to the state? I just don't get it.

Kenya

D-E-V...thanks for the link to the video and those wagging tails.

I'll take African Nations for 10 Alex.

Exactly, BlondeWino!

Threadilicious

The Real America

Turkey, Pecans, Dirty Campaigning And Gratuitious insults

Mombasa

Before I leave, Craig...any comments on your hair at the event? Did you manage to weave in some gray and silver hi-lites before hitting the stage?

"...I did not see the segment, but I know men and women who get Palin. I do not share their feelings, but it is their America, too. They have a right to believe that is the way "normal" humans act."

Blonde,
When I read your post, all I could think of was what a beautiful thing that was to say. Then you went on and blamed those same people you were defending for ruining our country the last eight years. Blonde, Bush did that

You say something as nice as: "And who are we to pass the judgement on their lifestyle?" and then you contradict it by saying "I sure hope they do not get to "run" the country for another eight years". Blonde, average citizens aren't running the country. Politicians are. And politicans lie, even Obama. What guarantee do you have that he'll accomplish anything?

What if he fails? Shall those who didn't vote for him then accuse you of ruining our country because you did vote for him?

I don't recall Flatus.

Chloe...Sorry for the contradiction of my statement...now you have seen a glimpse of the inside of my brain! Ongoing contradictions every day....I guess I believe the voters have some culpability in selecting their prez, but in 2000 the supreme court did the bidding for us. 2004 was another story.

And everyone lies...I believe I once heard up to 100 lies a day (just to keep standing) per human.

Now, I have to run.....

I guess I didn't read that closely enough. I was agreeing on the passing judgement statement.

Thanks Blonde.
When you put it that way, I have to admit we all do that.

Coast Hospital

Elections are all about passing judgement!

(I thought this was really funny, and see it as humor, not a putdown on Democrats)
The guy on Fox was talking about that 19 year old who voted 71 times. The kid claims to have been paid to do this with cash and cigarettes. The guest on Fox said that this may be the Democratic version of a stimulus package.

I'm curious. Did you and your gang walk into here the first day ready made clones, or did you all fall in line after you got here?

Did you have a ready made list of accepted sources or did you create it as you went? (Maybe you should post a list each morning so everyone knows what’s censored and what's acceptable).

However you've achieved your goal, not to worry. You've made it a nice, comfortable place to be for anyone who is willing to conform to your rules and ideas. Congratulations!

*wonders what chloe is talking about*

Philip Berg Interview about his lawsuit against SoetorObama/DNC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6_k3NtXZs

Chloe, good afternoon. always nice to read some humanistic logic on this site. Sometimes it's a rare occurrence. Hope you have a terrific day. Taking a lunch break and now off to chores (work).

I was wondering what to listen to, I think I'll crank up some Paul Simon, thanks Jamie.

Craig, I have been a fan of yours since the first time I saw you on Countdown. I was most distraught when I found out you were going to be in Roanoke and I couldn't make it. Are you ever going to be in NC (Greensboro)?

Speaking of Ladysmith Black Mambazo, I played a song from their Heavenly CD at the radio station when I was still in the states. This is the song that made me buy the CD. Featuring Dolly Parton

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Zkr6kb8L58

The Pornification Of A Generation
http://www.newsweek.com/id/162792?GT1=43001

Well, what do you know? Close-minded bigots like me write for Newsweek!

What are the chances that either W. Ayers or the Keating 5 will be brought up at the debate on Wed? I don't see how it can be avoided if the McCain camp keeps bringing it up.

rosie this will go to your question. I don't think the McCain campaign is backing off because of the criticism it's received, I think they are backing up to let things cool down before the debate so McCain doesn't have to say it to Obama's face. I have a feeling Obama may actually bring it up.

What about the moderator? Bill Howeveryouspellhislastname Sheiffer? Shouldn't he bring it up. The whole thing has been MADE an issue by the Mccain camp. I loved it when Biden took off his jacket and made the challenge of "say it to my face". It may be silly, but it has become relevent/

Dog's Eye

Here is the CNN show about the Palin women supporters.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/10/10/kaye.palin.female.fans.cnn?iref=videosearch

I'd love to hear Obama say something like, "Before I answer your question, we need to clear the air about something Senator McCain has been saying about me...."

The article regarding Rezko talking, twice linked here today.
There's no bearing on GE. Do you guys read those article before you post them?

"I think this strikes fear into the Blagojevich administration and the Statehouse Democrats but not into the Obama campaign,"

Bring a net and bag me a few while you're out, LOL.

isn't there an official WTF award?

"Now, as he spends his last months in office trying to avert a global economic collapse, Mr. Bush has been telling people privately that it’s a good thing he’s in charge."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/11/business/11bush.html?_r=1&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&oref=slogin

I get annoyed about the whole "bridge to nowhere" thing. The Anchorage Bowl is full, and there is no more room to expand. A lot of people have had to move to the Palmer-Wassila area to find housing. A good 45min-1hr drive from Anchorage (longer in the snow) A bridge could be built across the inlet that would cut the drive down to 10-15min. and open up the whole area for growth. It makes sense to me, but for Alaskans to pay for it 'cos we can afford it. We just recently dug a two mile tunnel to Whittier so people could get there by car instead of just train or plane.

Patsi,

I believe in the concept of extra-judicial self-help. However, prison is full of many practitioners. So the moral, Don't get caught!

I think what chloe was asking was , do any of the wack jobs not live off their parents? Seems to me many do.

UT (Toledo) beat the once mighty Michigan Wolverines today.
The true sign : the Apocalypse is upon is!

No MAC (Mid American) school had ever beaten Michigan.

spare the tazor, spoil the child.

WTF over wack jobs living with parents? Some of us loons are both crazy and self-supporting.

Check a mirror, madame.

haha, he said "what jobs"

"wack jobs"

He who said what? Is a wack or not a wack? Who is living off who's parents? Must get me job like that.

Now, as he spends his last months in office trying to avert a global economic collapse, Mr. Bush has been telling people privately that it’s a good thing he’s in charge.

“He said that if it was going to happen at all, he was glad it was happening under his presidency, because he had a good group of people in D.C. working for him,” Dru Van Steenberg, one of several small-business owners who met with Mr. Bush in San Antonio earlier this week. The president expressed the same sentiment, others said, during a similar private session in Chantilly, Va., the next day.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/11/business/11bush.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

Unfucking real!

What the Troopergate Report Really Says

"But the Branchflower report still makes for good reading, if only because it convincingly answers a question nobody had even thought to ask: Is the Palin administration shockingly amateurish? Yes, it is. Disturbingly so. "

http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,1849399,00.html

Civil rights icon John Lewis compared Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) to George Wallace in a posting to Politico's forum "The Arena," accusing McCain of fostering “an atmosphere of hate” and “hostility” like the one that led to white supremacists’ 1963 bombing of a church in Birmingham, Ala.

Lewis, a Democratic congressman from Georgia who has endorsed Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), pointed in his posting to “the negative tone of the McCain-Palin campaign,” and said the senator and his running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, “are sowing the seeds of hatred and division.”

McCain, in a book he wrote with aide Mark Salter called “Why Courage Matters: The Way to a Braver Life,” had lauded the leadership of Lewis in the nonviolent civil rights movement.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14488.html

That Ayers tact really worked out well for the McCain camp.

News Poll: Americans 'Bail' On the Bail-Out
"A 53 percent majority thinks government involvement is not part of the solution at all, but part of the problem. This view is more intense among Republicans (69 percent) and independents (59 percent)—though a large minority of Democrats (40 percent) also views government involvement in a negative light."

"...... A majority of voters (53 percent) thinks the bailout package shows that government leaders "have no idea what they’re doing......More remarkably, only 6 percent believes officials "know exactly what they’re doing and how the rescue plan will affect the economy...."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,436041,00.html

News Poll: The Candidates and Character
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,436023,00.html

Obama Maintains Lead Over McCain
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,435983,00.html

"Remember the Rule of Holes: When you find yourself in one, the first thing to do is to stop digging.

Right now we're in one of the deepest economic holes anyone has ever seen. And what we need to do is to stop making things worse by continuing to over-rely on financial markets and financial institutions that have proven to be incapable of performing their core missions: getting capital to where it needs to go and pricing that capital in a way that reflects the risks and underlying economic values. We have to stop digging. Another week like this one, and there won't be much left to rescue."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/10/AR2008101003147.html?hpid=topnews

BALTIMORE, Maryland (AFP) — Two Roman Catholic nuns whose non-violent action against nuclear weapons landed them with prison sentences returned home to Baltimore to learn they had been listed as terrorists, they said Friday.

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5jMGsEcRqlszry4khOAwBRTMnf8YQ

Someone tell Palin ......

http://www.nytimes.com/external/gigaom/2008/10/10/10gigaom-obama-campaigning-on-xbox-36-24441.html

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc313/JeffSon_album/10062008_182103_010.jpg

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/on-the-road-in-milton-de.html#comment-157787

That man has taken self delusion to a high art.

At the invocation (why we need invocations at political events is beyond me, but I digress) at a McCain rally today in Iowa the minister said, "Muslims, Buddhists, and Hindus were praying to their gods to make sure Obama won, and that Christians to pray to their god so McCain wins" This was just reported on Fox News (such as it is, but I digress)

Now I know their are a lot of stupid members of the clergy, but you'd think at least in manners of theology he's have a clue!

I see Kaiser Soze's twin has joined us. Do we round up the usual suspects?

This could be the game changer

"It makes accessible to the general public some of the serious questions about Obama's citizenship status that have been vetted almost exclusively in the conservative web world. You can't get most voters to focus on print media in order to entertain a series of hard questions on what seems like a far-fetched notion. Especially those voters who rely on the Big Media. They figure that if this were true, they would have heard about it from the old familiar faces."

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/this_could_be_the_game_changer.html

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"... serious questions about Obama's citizenship status that have been vetted almost exclusively in the conservative web world."

Not correct. Since mid - June, conservatives have been very silent on this issue. PUMAs have been investigating and pushing the BC/COLB and citizenship stories.

oooo...i loved kevin spacey in that!!

Invocations at anything other than prayer meetings are stupid. But if they're 'a must'.. you would think that someone somewhere could come up with a blessing that didn't include the phrase "JEEEEEEEEsus our SAAAAAAAViyrrrrrrrrrrr"

Tylenol

This is the same crowd that adds "born and unborn" to the end of the pledge of allegiance to the flag.

I guess any womb confined Canadians are on their own.

Usual Suspects is one of my favorite movies. One of those that you have on DVD but if you are clicking through channels and it is on, you stop to watch for a while. The last five minutes are worth the price of the movie.

Yep..that long walk he does down the hall, out the door, to the car. WOOHOO!

Well, Jamie, truth be told, I think these days Canadians, womb-confined or otherwise, are rather pleased to be on their own.

"Under a brilliant blue sky, Obama's four events here drew 60,000 people according to Philadelphia police, but it was impossible to verify the estimates. At some sites, thousands of people were unable to get through the gates. They stood on cars and craned their necks for a glimpse, sometimes blocks away. Crowds cheered Obama's motorcade as it arrived and left each site."

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5isOFwdbq0tsqatW6vJpkDRTI1gMgD93OG6480

Sarah Palin's a Jewish Princess, is this what is really behind the Mainstream Media Bashing? Anti Semitic?

This is interesting to Genealogist, and Family Historians and unlike what people get on “The View” how Brad Pitt and Barack Obama are 9th cousins, I forget how many times removed, somewhere back in the annals of time.

This spells out Sarah Palin’s Jewish ancestry

http://sarah-palin-2008.blogspot.com/2008/10/sarah-palin-has-jewish-ancestry.html

Shalom

Ty

These days more and more of us are probably taking extended longing looks towards the north.

Sarah Palin is Jewish? You don't suppose she's related to anybody here, do you?

Only after Tuesday's election, Jamie (crossing fingers and toes). If CONservatives win, you might as well stay where you are, there won't be a difference.

For you conspiracy theorists out there....some friends of my sister swear they were watching a GM commercial and subliminally heard the word "McCain" in it a few times. Anybody heard about this?

Tylenol

I'll get the results on Channel 99 here. Who should I be rooting for?

good way to dampen mccain's chances.......associate him with GM.......lol

Jamies..anyone but Harper.. but I myself am voting (and this will really surprise you.. lol) LIBERAL!

lol Sturgeon

This year I'm surprised by anyone who isn't voting Liberal.

Problem is.. the CONS only make up about 30%. Easy to defeat you would think, but those who are to the left of center are split over 3 different parties. It looks like it will be a minority government, but hopefully, a LIBERAL minority.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/on-the-road-in-milton-de.html#comment-157724

"X" --

Glad I could give you a chuckle. I never realized how small Delaware was until I moved to Texas... where no one had ever heard of it ("Dela-what? What part of Texas is that in?")

This year I'm surprised by anyone who isn't voting Liberal.

Posted by: Jamie

We've got a liberal candidate this year? Woohoo! This is news to me!

NY Times readers nail paper for not covering issues. One reporter says issues are too complex to explain....

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/12/opinion/12pubed.html?ref=opinion

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/on-the-road-in-milton-de.html#comment-157823

Theirs are by title. Ours is just on the spectrum.

Had lunch today with yet another Republican who said they were going to hold their nose and vote for McCain.

Said McCain was too liberal, but Obama was REALLY too liberal. This woman pays no attention to politics...just in passing.

I think I convinced her to vote for McKinney/Clemente instead. Strictly on the basis of Cynthia slugging that Capitol Hill cop. Can't wait until she finds out McKinney is so far left of Obama that she makes him look like Dick Cheney.

Patsi

You should have referred her to The Constitution Party. That's a really fun crowd.

http://www.constitutionparty.com/

Constitution Party rule #5: Constitution and Bill of Rights interpreted according to the actual intent of the Founding Fathers;

HA! Guess that means some of us can't vote....could have also pointed her to the Socialist Workers...

OMG! Hell's frozen over.

October 10, 2008
A Buckley endorses Obama

"Christopher Buckley, the son of the late conservative icon William F. Buckley, said Friday he's decided to back Barack Obama's White House bid, the first time in his life he will vote Democrat."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

And he looks like his father!

tt

Dex, done sweeping.

tt

*stretches and yawns*

Finally the times has moved NH from swing state status to Obama, they've also taken NC away from McCain and moved it to swing state!

http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/president/whos-ahead/key-states/map.html

Patsi & Jamie - once we had Bush channeling God, and now we have the Constitution Party channeling
Washington, Madison, Jefferson, et al. Wonder if the meet at Scalia's house.

Okay, Sturge - Just for that, I'll see your Charles Trenet
and raise you a Jean Sablon.

sorry ---

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHYC6SYI-9Q

"now we have the Constitution Party channeling
Washington, Madison, Jefferson, et al. Wonder if the meet at Scalia's house."

Indeed! I also think the C-party might be surprised at the different views the FF actually had.

As governor, Palin at times links church, state
Records show she used taxpayer money to promote religious causes

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27134586/

Wow, she even billed the state when she went to church, this woman is truly shameless. Got her mother-in-law kicked off a hospital board too, I guess that explains why we don't see the first dudes family at McCain functions!

"Palin's former church and other evangelical denominations were instrumental in ousting members of Valley Hospital's board who supported abortion rights — including the governor's mother-in-law, Faye Palin."

Amen. There are some interesting sitesmade by Deists and Atheists (maybe others) which give original
quotes about a good many of the founding fathers.
The neatest I've found is about how GW would never take communion - he left before hand, with Patsi Custis, leaving Martha to take it.

The preacher didn't approve and asked the prez to set a better example for the people. GW thought that was ridiculous, so the preacher gave a sermon re the duties of public servants.

GW had the preacher to dinner and said the sermon was very good, so in order to stop setting a bad example he would stop leaving church early by not going to church at all.

Of course, such stories run the risk of being called apochryphal, but the sources are given, as quotes from contemporary letters. I suspect the story is quite likey true. I love it.

NEW THREAD

"“BEWARE of geeks bearing formulas.” So saith Warren Buffett, the Wizard of Omaha."

This is the opening line of Richard Dooling's excellent op-ed in this morning's Times. The article:

'The Rise of the Machines '
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/12/opinion/12dooling.html?_r=1&scp=2&sq=dooling&st=cse&oref=slogin