Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

Early Bird again?
But be careful if people dig and find a different truth

Craig - Today's is GREAT A++
very interesting....

But your bias - "natural advantage with these voters on economic matters." - Please define -- You would have been better to say - OUR natural ......
Sorry - but that statement is BS and hurts the grade... now a C unless you can explain and how Dem Tax policy is better.
Or did I misunderstand?

John McInsane's terrorist ties David Ifshin.

http://reconstitution.us/rcnew/?p=2298#respond

AP How you doing !!

Brain - Poll is showing McCain made back one point in Florida.
Did the young Sen Obama reach a peak and climax to soon?
Will tried and true tested come through again?
Will this be the turning point?

Get ready to rumble

"dadgummit"
"Dagnabbit"
"Hornswagle ya"
"Bamboozle ya"

Which twin has the Toni?

Mr. Gibbs is the master of taking cow patties and making them look like a tasty brownies, He is good, really good at his spin job, in fact get you pissed off good when you stop and apply simple logic to what he says and how irrational it really is….

The question is when the people get to take a bite and understand that it ain’t a brownie that he was selling ya.

(wink) Good morning hockey moms & Joe 6-packs - Vote for John McCain or the terrorists win. (~Way to run an honorable campaign~)

GOP becoming more desparate by the day. They are starting to swing wildly, like a 3rd-grader in a schoolyard tiff. Good thing Obama has long arms and can just keep them at bay with his palm to the forehead.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/fec_complaint

Video keeps freezing, so not sure how rural was defined. Farmers who watch the market & love their farm subsudies do not have the same economic view as, say, coalminers or the under/unemployed in America's small towns.

During the last year 5 of the financial institutions on the verge of collapse handed out billions in ill-deserved bonuses.

Neither one of these clowns is going to stop this.

There will be no universal healthcare. The infrastructure will continue to rot. Jobs will continue to be shipped overseas.

Ronald Reagan and his cronies sent the country on the road to hell, Bush 1 continued it. Clinton slowed it down, and with a shrug and a smirk, Bush 2 handed America back to the crooks.

McCane took on a glassy eyed look and told his followers that he was the next Ronald Reagan. Obama dusted off his shoulder, and told his glassy eyed followers that Ronald Reagan was transformative.

My confidence is up. You bettcha.

Bear, what Mudcat said is that rural voters want a fighter, someone who would screw those who've screwed us. Dog and I discussed this months ago. I wanted a fighter and she said the country, under Obama's leadership, had moved past needing a fighter. Maybe. Maybe not.

Didn't mean to call you Bear, Blue....guess all you Texans look alike....:)

Good morning all
"and the reporting should be that obama camp is stonewalling the ayers story -- no speculation required"

Thank you Craig for acknowledging this question in the last thread.

Sturge- was thinking the same thing.

It is October. RNC Demands FEC Probe Obama's Donations
http://partisanreport.com/blog/2008/10/06/rnc-demands-fec-probe-obamas-donations/

Hey Anon,
Glad to see you. Hope all is well.
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http://www.keatingeconomics.com/?source=sem-pm-google&gclid=CKO-wrjIkpYCFQIWFQod8lGGEg

Talk about history repeating itself.

Craig, the issue I really want to address is the subject of the previous blog, so I'm going to do that, okie-dokie?

Ayres hosted Mr Obama's political coming-out party. That puts him at the absolute center of Mr Obama's political universe; everything follows from that seminal event.

Craig, the WaPo graphic (the one showing the concentric rings of Obama supporters with the Chicago 'mafia' comprising the inner core) that Alicia posted last month is really germane. Couple that with the relocation of the political corpus of the DNC to Chicago, and we have a complete hijacking of the Democratic Party.

That's why I declared my independence.

"My confidence is up. You bettcha. "

Time to start planting victory gardens.

supporters = advisers

Stocks Fall Sharply in Europe and Asia

"PARIS — Stocks tumbled Monday in Europe and Asia, and oil fell below $90 for the first time since February as fears grew that the financial crisis is spreading to the world economy."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/07/business/07markets.html

This is the news that will drive the day - looking for another weak day.......

Areys speculation....not so much

mornin' all.

Well, I see today is likely to be the Ayers v. Keating episode of Obama v. McCain. It will be interesting to see whether the candidates ahve enough cajones to level the innuendos at each other tomorrow night. I certainly hope Brokaw has the wherewithall to ask them to address those questions head on.

Ping, one point in a poll doesn't mean anything unless the margin of error is less than one point. But you know that. 8 polls were released yesterday and today - 3 national polls and 5 staet polls. McCain was tied with Obama in CO. Obama was ahead by 5 or more in all the rest. gio back to Friaday, and McCain is actually up one point in a poll by SurveyUSA in MN, which is offset by a Star Tribune poll released for MN showing Obama up by 18. I wonder why Palin is now on the attack? And being withheld from the press? Answer - the McCain camp sees the momentun shifting big time, and Palin is mean and stupid.

Now about those strong economic fundamentals - John, try again. Blowing smoke up the US workers' collective asses is not going to work when jobs are fleeing like gazelles from lions and even the bailout isn't stopping the stock market's slide. At least gas is going down.

Speaking of gas - well, oil - seems that Ike caused half a million gallons of crude to spill in to the Gulf of MX from those perfectly safe and clean oil platforms out there. Considering how big a storm Ike was, I guess that's not so much. Drill here, drill now.

Well there's some old saying about draining swamps and being up to your neck in alligators - I gotta get back to fighting off the gators.

Pogo - my polling point was for our daily poll watchers - which I am not - trends yes... McCain has stopped the bleeding.

Strong Fundamentals - The Fundamentals of the American Economy are strong - we are the most productive work force - Capitalism, free enterprise.
Question - My Global Company needs to expand and source - why not more in the US? Taxes my freind taxes - Sen Obama plan will keep shifting jobs away.

Watch for the continued seperation of McCain from Bush as people get the facts that the reality is Obama is closer to Bush fiscal policy by behavior.

Bush endores Obama fiscal plan -

Seers, futurists, philosophers, prophets, prognosticators, pundits, cult leaders and even my wife have long soothsayed that the end of the world is near.

Well, my friends, only a few of us have peered into the abyss that is the United States Congress and returned unscathed. I am one of them.

Many of us think that whatever used to pass for leadership in America is long gone, replaced today by self-serving, egotistical, preening politicians whose only goals are TV face-time and hyper-partisan one-Bunkumship.

On national news media and in newspapers across the web I see quotes like "Why should American taxpayers have to foot the bill for Wall Street blunders"?

First and probably most realistically, will someone please tell me just how will the American taxpayer will even know they have paid this bill? Will we get a statement in the mail? Will our bank accounts be debited? Will someone come and take away Aunt Trudy's diamond bracelet that we can't wait to get our hands on when she dies so can sell it and get a flat screen TV?

Second, to paraphrase the old baseball legend Casey Stengel (knowing Stenglish well enough to paraphrase him is a black art I am not particularly proud of) "Doesn't anybody remember the Great Depression?"

Doesn't anybody remember how it started, and more frighteningly, how it ended? The Great Depression started with a great loss of capital from the stock market crash. Companies lost capital with which they collateralized the loans they made to make payroll in order to pay workers who couldn't consume the products other companies made so these companies went belly up and these workers didn't have a job so they couldn't get a paycheck and they couldn't get any credit and ah **** it. But wait here comes WWII. Everything is going to be just fine

It's the credit, stupid. (See Jim Carville)

When was the last time you bought anything over $100 for cash? Or for that matter when was the last time you bought anything for cash? We live on credit. Not just this country, the entire world. The economic machine is driven on credit. Governments run on credit. Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, unemployment, tax refunds, anything you can think of is a product of credit.

Is this a good thing? Probably not, but it's the only thing. If the credit-sclerotic clot that is blocking the flow of the arteries of our economic life blood, just what do you think is going to happen?

Wall Street is Main Street, people.

It's also Broadway, Pennsylvania Avenue, Downing Street, Le Champs-Elysees, Hollywood. You get the picture. No pun intended, but the availability of credit is everything.

If the partisan knuckleheads who we, the partisan knuckleheads wannabes, put in charge don't get off their soapbox and into the batter's box, we are toast, baby.

Just thought you might want to know.

Cal chancellor calls tree-sit protest 'racism'

Phillip Matier,Andrew Ross

Monday, October 6, 2008
Protesters occupied trees in Memorial Grove on the UC Ber...

Berkeley's tree-sitters may have thought their nearly two-year protest was an act of civil disobedience, but to UC Berkeley Chancellor Robert Birgeneau it was actually "racism against our underrepresented minority student athletes."
It's cuckoo," the tree-sitters' lawyer Dennis Cunningham said of the chancellor's remarks. "You don't spend $150 million in funny money to benefit 350 athletes who are already pampered and have scholarships and a free ride."
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/10/06/BAI913B8QI.DTL&type=printable

Why does Obama not support the Fundamentals of our Economy?
Do his Socialist values drive that hard?

He is shifting closer and closer to John McCain - Woner how many times he will say that "I agree with John" on Tuesday night,

This CHANGE of Words just Words of Obama is starting to piss off his orginal radical base

Not to put too fine a point on it, Ping, but if that's stopping the bleeding, poll wise, I'd hate to see what you think bleeding is. The national polls are up on average about 2-3 points in Obama's favor since a week ago and by almost all accounts he has seen a strong shift in PA, NH and OH. But more pertinent, RCP has shown a swing the electoral vote count (based on polls only, I understand) of a 10 point McCain adcdvantage to a 101 point Obama advantage in the past 3 weeks.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/election_2008/electoral_count.html#previous_changes

Now, really, about those alligators...

Palin in Clearwater FL live on Fox, now.

Pogo - No doubt you are right on ----
Is this the end for McCain - I think that some last week had more the tingles up there legs.

Or is it the peak for Sen Obama - October will only tell later and November is what matters.

Lets see what the fall of the season brings for Obama...

Can he keep running? away from his past?

I hope they do bring up Keating vs Ayers -
The Keating issue was fully vetted and in fact as reported by the MSM - that McCain should have been excused from the hearings but heck it would have been only DEMS on the block at that point

Sen Obama - Maybe you should have answered the Ayers questions long ago when a few raised it up - Does your past catch up now?

I am at Work - Is CNN showing Palin they way they Show Obama and Biden?

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/obamas-rural-challenge.html#comment-155110

"your bias - "natural advantage with these voters on economic matters." - Please define" -- posted by ping pong

ping, my point there is dems have the political advantage on pocketbook issues, not that they have better policies. they are better at leveraging a bad economy with voters, but often can't get to that advantage due to cultural blockage

Yes, Ping, she's on CNN, too.

Pogo, I'm really concerned about spills getting into the economically productive estuarine and coastal habitats along the Florida littoral.

oldsea,
a variation on your "It is October. RNC Demands FEC Probe Obama's Donations" could just as well be

"It is October of [any given election year]. RNC Demands FEC Probe [any given dem pol's] Donations" .... fill in the there we go again de ja vu blanks.

Then they A will stand - I know you will sleep better tonight. I should have known you where sticking with the Poitical elements and staying away from numbers.

But further to clarify the advantage relates to the attachment to the Failed Bush - Obama policy of allowing or promoting social policy to override sound fiscal policy.

This is difficult for most to grasp

Craig yes Obama has trouble with the Jacksonians the Reagan Democrats the NASCAR demographic the people Andrea Mitchell refers to as Rednecks. Way to endear the Ulster Scots Andrea, Obama can't get elected President without them and they are not beyond voting for a Man whose name starts with (Mc) they have that in common and Sarah Palin unashamedly one of them.

This is McCain's New Add, Lanny Davis is on Fox News, right now stressing that John McCain must focus on the economy. Right Lanny, John McCain on Defense playing the Democrat's Game on their terms. I guess Lanny thinks that McCain and his Campaign are newbies to Politics.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/06/527-ad-fighting/

I was listening to Imus this morning he thinks the Poll Numbers might be fudging. He said I don't believe them. I know they are looking at numbers the media people are constantly crunching and reviewing I don't suppose the American Public are going to get to be exposed to some conversation on the Polls and how they might be being represented or skewed on purpose? Btw Sarah Palin nailed the Democrat Debate, I watched so did a lot of other people. I wake up to how Joe Biden won? Really isn't this stretching credibility?

Vote...
Who will be harmed greatest if the Ayers / Keating mud fest hits the Debate?

1 Tom will not bring it up knowing the answer

2 McCain - as people will be effected by the spin - Economic issues are closer to home right now then Terror

3 Obama - As people will find it unexcusable that he has been running away from his past and that Ayers is to radical for most all

Bailout or Rescue by any name a failure.

The government's commitment to spend up to $700 billion buying bad debts from ailing banks is likely to save some institutions that would have otherwise died, but analysts doubt it will be enough to avert a major shakeout.

"It will help, but it's not going to be the saving grace" because a lot of banks are holding construction loans and other types of deteriorating assets that the government won't take off their books, predicted Stanford Financial analyst Jaret Seiberg. He expects more than 100 banks nationwide to fail next year.
http://finance.comcast.net/www/news.html?x=http://76.96.38.13/data/news/2008/10/05/1079035.xml

Just looked at the Times mass market paperback best sellers list. Seven of the twenty titles had the word 'dead' in the title. That's depressing. (NY Times Arts & Leisure section page 28, Oct 5, 08)

reading PALM BEACH BABYLON about the hi-jinks and foibles of the ultra rich on Palm Beach from the building of the Hotel Poinciana in 1894, by Mr Flagler, J D Rockefeller's partner in Standard Oil, down to 1992.....
veddy interesting.

The picture of William Ayers standing on top of a crumpled American flag won't do Obama any favors if the McCain camp is able to associate the two.

Sarah Palin got the endorsement from The President of the LA ,California Chapter of N.O.W. that is significant, there was a crowd of 15,000 to 20,000 that attended. These would be the PUMAS. Democrats ignore PUMAS at their own risk. These are the people Sarah Palin was chosen for and the Reagan Democrats -and PUMAS.

http://sarah-palin-2008.blogspot.com/2008/10/la-now-president-endorses-sarah-palin.html

Under reported Sarah Palin also brought in unprecedented dollars to the Campaign coffers.

Mudcat has stated consistently the elitist uber liberal attitude-posturing does not work on this Demographic of the Democrat party. So why now are the Democrats finally paying attention to them? It is a bit late to change horses in the middle of the stream? Obama staked out the far left position of the Democrat Party, that isn't where most the Votes reside. I am an Independent, what finally made me jump off the fence, was the "nasty attacks on Sarah Palin" I received the message loud and clear, she is a REAL threat to the Progressive Uber Liberal, sometimes Socialist leaning Wing of the Democrat Party. The reason I left the Democrat Party in the first place.

The Jacksonians agree with Ronald Reagan, and during the Vice Presidential Debate, only one candidate could invoke the memory and legacy of Reagan. It wasn't the Senator from Delaware. It was another Governor remember Reagan was a Governor not a Senator just like Sarah Palin.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/59_agree_with_ronald_reagan_government_is_the_problem

what was that very strange noise McCain was making after the Palin-Biden debate.......very spooky sound.

What's up with those wolf-pelt curtains in Mudcat's house?

McCain Campaign shatters monthly fund raising record

http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/1008/RNC_shatters_monthly_fundraising_record.html

DOW briefly below 10000.
Shrub was forced into the bailout by market circumstances and otherwise would have left the mess. I think sending in Paulson with 3 pages is an indication of the amount of thought given to solutions.

Congress forced the administration to give it some thought but were under the impression it had to be done as an emergency.

Tell me again what the emergency was and how this bill has fixed it.

Ping, I can't say the direction the polls have taken since the conventions will continue. These things do swing back and forth. But trying to tie Obama to Bush's failed social/economic policies, or better yet to differentiate McCain from those policies, is something you'd have to have more than a month to try and convince the voters of. You are contending that the radical-loving Obama is more closely aligned with Bush than McCain on political/social/economic issues? Hard sell at best - particularly since their voting records in the Senate were McCain - 90% in support of Bush - Obama - 96% in support of the Democratic legislation introduced. (Don't have a link, but these numbers have been floated so often, I don't doubt them.) And they don't call him McBush for nothing. (And yes, I know it's the Obama supporters calling him that). So is the retort "maverick, maverick, maverick? Sorry he got on that old horse and rode out of town in 2000, never to be seen again. Having the lipsticked attack dog repeat it ad nauseum doesn't change that or his pro-Bush voting record.

Champ -- Nice catch - Sarah sent him the curtains - you should see the Elk bed spread.

So far the vote is 100% Obama will be the most damaged if the facts of keating vs Ayers comes out

"McCain Campaign shatters monthly fund raising record"

They're probably lying . . remember they're not so good with accounting/economic issues too.

http://sarah-palin-2008.blogspot.com/2008/10/michaelreagan-obama-lied-about-my-dad.html

They are going after the very people this post is about the Reagan Democrats and Obama can't get elected with out them.

I think it's over. Short of something truly unexpected, people hate Bush and all Republicans should be very afraid.

There is no confidence in Bush

Although with congress having even lower ratings than Bush it might be a "vote'em out year." Although individual members of Congress poll higher and people might hate Congress but still like their own rep.

Monday, October 06, 2008

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows Barack Obama attracting 52% of the vote while John McCain earns 44%. This is the highest level of support ever recorded for Obama and is his largest lead of the year. It also continues a remarkable twenty-five days in a row where the Democrat’s support has never declined by even a single point. The Democratic candidate has gained six full percentage points of support since Lehman Brothers collapsed to start the Wall Street mess.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

I guess America wasn't so impressed with Giget's performance at the debate.

pogo - I have even at times had dreams of supporting Barack - And I have accepted that regardless of who wins it is the Congress that is the greater threat.

It will be interesting if McCain is successful in connecting (or will even try ) Obama to Bush in policy. The fact is Bush by complacent action has allowed more liberal spending and does not represent the Republican party.

Fact is Obama represents this same failed action of allowing social policy to overrule sound fiscal policy - that is why we are here.

Man have I stayed on point !! MCCAIN WATCH AND LEARN

KC,

Dow is now at 9960, down 366 and still falling - hasn't been above 10000 all morning. All the European and Asian markets are down @ 4.5% - 5%, partly on bad news from Airbus, Mercedes, German steel and British Airways, and the Russian and Icelandic markets suspended trading. And oil is below $90 on NYMEX. Nothing much encouraging out there.

Pogo

Bush bailout fails...'this can only be good news for Republicans" ~~~~~~~~~~~~

Waxman is holding hearings with the officers from Lehman brothers. It and the reporting of it should be very interesting.

Rez since grandpa cranky pants can’t accept donations how do they know they broke all records?

http://sarah-palin-2008.blogspot.com/2008/10/michaelreagan-obama-lied-about-my-dad.html

They are going after the very people this post is about the Reagan Democrats and Obama can't get elected with out them.

Posted by: Ree | October 6, 2008 10:21 AM

"Try as he might, Barack Obama cannot claim the innocence of a lamb in his long years of worshipful association with the Reverend Jeremiah Wright. He was either fully aware of the seething racial hatred that motivated Wright, or something of a blithering idiot who can’t spot a racist hater when he spends years genuflecting at his feet."

"Barack Obama is not an idiot. He is a brilliant orator who exudes charm and arouses near-worship from his host of giddy, hypnotized supporters. He is also a committed socialist and a talented salesman for his brand of Marxist snake oil. Beware of camels bearing gifts, and politicians promising utopia."

http://www.keatingeconomics.com/

I love the fact people are pulling out the "pinko card", it truly shows just how desperate the repugs are. Just hysterical. Yo idiots, get a clue, the cold war ended 20 years ago.

Tell that to Putin.

I wonder if the McCain family was referring to Mudcat as a commie. Seems like a strange way to woo voters.

"Joe McCain, speaking at an event in support of his brother, called two Democratic-leaning areas in Northern Virginia "communist country,"

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/virginiapolitics/2008/10/joe_mccain_jokes_inner_suburbs.html

Has the failed policy's and behavior of the past caught up?

The US has moved away from the sound Fundamentals that lead the Global economy's.

Has the past policy's which have been driven by the Dems and allowed by Bush driven the world economy to the point it is today.

This is a great doctoral question … One that will not be asked as elements of the Economy and such are not the strength of our MSM – they are a failed 4th estate.

Barack policy is the same as Bush Behavior allowed

Rez since grandpa cranky pants can’t accept donations how do they know they broke all records?

Crooks I tell you!

"Just because I'm evil, doesn't mean that everything I do is evil." - Dr. Heinz Doofenshmirtz

Brain - This is the problem with the internet - any fool can go by a domain - create a totally false reality that does not represent the Truth.- and any yahoo can make it look as if it has value

Come now - I backed down last week on the Campaign issue when I got the facts, I admitted my error.

This Keating thing will blow up on the Dems when all the facts are brought to full transparency.

McCain made a bad choice by not walking out of a meeting. The politics of the day kept the count to 5.

This is simply a losing argument for the Dems if anyone has half a brain

This was fully vetted for McCain..

Ayers has not been touched - this will burn Barack

Ping, Ayers will sully Obama, and Keating will sully McCain. The critical difference between to the two is that Keating is a convicted felon, tied to McCain over the same issues that are front and center in the economic issues the bailout was passed to address, and caused in part at least by McCain's support for deregulation of financial institutions while
Ayers has never been convicted of anything, despite his days advocating and participating in violent bombings in protest of the US Government and the Vietnam War. He is also currently a professor at the U of Chicago and an activist for the underprivileged and undereducated. Voters will certainly not embrace either of those characters, but it's easier to demonstrate close ties between McCain and Keating that look a lot like bribery than it is to demonstrate close ties between Obama and Ayers that looks like any endorsement of his SDS/Weather Underground activities. Both candidates probably regret their associations with Ayers and Keating, but the difference between how much each will be damaged will probably not be all that great and each side will likely say the other was harmed more by the revelations.

KGC,

Your buddy Cramer is telling everyone to divest themselves of their stocks.

Oct. 6: TODAY’s Ann Curry talks to CNBC’s Jim Cramer, who advises pulling out the stock market if you are going to need your assets in the next five years.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/27045406#27045406

Pong if I were you I'd be a lot less worried about Rev. Right and Ayers and start following the Dow.

Rez

By tonight Cramer will be telling everyone to buy buy buy

Sorry, Ping. No one is gonna believe that Bush = Obama stuff no matter how often you repeat it.

btw...

"Some regulators noted the danger posed by these deregulations and pushed for more oversight, but Congress refused. This may be due, in part, to the Keating Five, five Senators — Dennis DeConcini, Alan Cranston, John Glenn, Don Riegle and John McCain — who had received, for both themselves and for groups they supported, well over $1 million from Keating in the 1980s as favors and political contributions.[1] They later met twice with regulators who were investigating American Continental Corporation, in an attempt to end the investigation. (In 1991, they would be rebuked to various degrees by the Senate Ethics Committee.)[2]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Keating

If the dems are smart and keep it simple, McCain looks just like the rest of the Keating 5 - and people who can't remember Lincoln S&L can vaguely recall (corectly or not) that the Keating 5 were 5 corrupt senators. McCain is taking a big gamble by going down this road the day before the next presidential debate.

Virginia: The New Dominion
by BarbinMD Jul 17, 2008

The fifty state strategy in action:

Sen. Barack Obama's campaign announced Wednesday that it is adding 20 offices across Virginia, an unprecedented effort by a presidential candidate and another sign that he plans to compete vigorously in a state that has been on the sidelines during past presidential contests.

The offices, which will open Saturday, will be in nearly every medium-size city in the state, along with a few locations often overlooked by statewide candidates, much less a presidential campaign.

"A lot of these places may have never had a presidential campaign before," state Sen. John S. Edwards (D-Roanoke) said at an event announcing the offices. "It shows [Obama] is investing in the commonwealth and it is a bottom-up, not a top-down campaign."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/16/AR2008071602817.html?hpid=topnews

KGC: "By tonight Cramer will be telling everyone to buy buy buy"

ROFL

I watched the whole Palin speech this morning and more than anything in her lovely white suit she reminded me of David Duke in front of a White Power crowd of cheerleaders. It was downright scary. REally: Obama/Biden are not Americans like you and me? What are they - Martians? You have a feeling all those people were circulating the C H A N G E email.

As close as I can tell from the whole Ayers story is that a spoiled wealthy brat committed some truly horrendous acts 40 years ago and got off with nothing more than a slap on the wrist. In his late middle age he is still a far left if non violent radical and has busied himself doing good works in support of those living in poverty.

Along comes a young man of similar liberal tendencies and committment through work of those in poverty. Older man gets him on some boards and panels where he can direct some funds to his constituency and tosses some money towards the young man's later political campaigns.

This hardly makes them bosom buddies. You can fault Obama for having liberal policies with which you don't agree, but to align him with violent events that happened before he was 10 is just plain stupid and prejudiced.

I am following the DOW - with balance and planning it is a good time to find great bargains.

Look at Citigroup and Wells Fargo ferocious battle for Wachovia. They see a bargain,

Long Term
Short Term

Watch for the trend and be ready to jump in……..

It's not just the rural folks.

http://rattlergator.typepad.com/rattlergator/2008/10/operation-shock-the-world-sarah-palin-delivers-again.html

Here is another Floridian's take on the Election.

Pogo – you are absolutely correct, “If the dems are smart and keep it simple, McCain looks just like the rest of the Keating 5 - and people who can't remember” now lets add the fact -- That McCain was not found guilty, and that it feel on the DEMS.

If the Dems do not keep it simple and allow the facts to penetrate as I have now seen, And now John McCain will defend his honor from the liable ad that the holy Obama and Gibbs is running – then it may change the tide.

Gibbs is like the kid that throws a snow ball full of ice and rocks, then cries to his mommy that he did not do

rural vs. urban

Obama is urban man, McCain is military man, Biden is urban man, Palin is rural...

and rural america exists in all 50 states and Palin's appeal is almost pioneer...daughter of the American Revolution, etc. McCain campaign stumbled into the rural arena with Palin and have tapped into this energy. Unfortunately, a military man only knows to keep his woman barefoot and pregnant eventhough she knows how to use a gun. Had they more time, they may have been able to effectively use Palin.

Jamie,

Have your noticed that the media prefers to replay her remarks from the earlier rally in CA rather than the recent one in FL. It (her attitude) is more mean and nastier. Makes for better news.

Ree,
Great link and post,
I suggest all take a serious read....

here is the link again

http://rattlergator.typepad.com/rattlergator/2008/10/operation-shock-the-world-sarah-palin-delivers-again.html

Keating 5 getting you a little nervous Pong? It should, the Right-Ayers card was already played this summer and obviously didn't stop Obama. For most people the Keating 5 story is new news and seems oh so relevant in the current climate!

McCain: I'm Not Raising Taxes. I'm Cutting Medicare!

http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2008/10/06/mccain-i-m-not-raising-taxes-i-m-cutting-medicare.aspx

bye-bye Florida!

Certainly the Feds can lend the states the funds they need, which amounts to selling treasuries then sending that money to the states. If this keeps up the only government in the US which can raise money at reasonable rates will be the Federal government.

The fear then will be that one day foreigners and maybe even Americans will wonder why they are in treasuries when they pay almost nothing and expose them to significant currency risk.

At that point, the real fun begins.
States Close to Running out of Money
By: Ian Welsh Monday October 6, 2008 7:56 am

Likely to happen? It shouldn't. There are things that could be done which would ensure it doesn't.

Wonder if anyone will do any of those things? 'Cause doing them will require that your first priority isn't bailing out the rich, and what TARP told us is that right now that's still where Congress, the President and both presidential candidates are.
http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/06/states-close-to-running-out-of-money/

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/obamas-rural-challenge.html#comment-155198

Rez, She was frightening this morning. That woman is just plain mean mouthed with a sarcastic streak. No wonder they nicknamed her barracuda.

Another scraping of the bottom of the barrel, repugs worried about how voters show up at the poll dressed.

Ping - that's another difference - McCain was found not guilty (actually, he was not censured by the Senate Ethics Committee - I don't believe he was ever charged with a crime) - OBAMA on the other hand was never connected in any way to Ayers' bad acts in the 60s and 70s and was never charged with even being old enough to know they were occurring. It's very difficult to claim that your opponent has closer ties to a "terrorist" (read the meme - trying to tie Ayers to the war on terror) than you do to a criminal when the "terrorist" was never convicted of a crime, but your own benefactor was and you yourself were investigated (albeit largely exonerated) and became one of a famous group of senators whose acts were widely considered corrupt. If I were a campaign consultant (and if I were I'd be a lot wealthier than I am) to either campaign and thought I had a prayer of winning without mentioning these things, I'd say don't mention them.

Brain - it does make me nervous as who can trust the MSM to help get the facts - As McCain is clean in this issue – unlike the Dems. But you would never know it.

This shows how trusting Obama is that the 4th estate is incompetent or not willing to find the truth.

jamie, like I said yesterday - Sarah Palin reminds me of my mother when my mother was angry I've seen that fixed glare and semi-pursed lips many times. (And coincidentally, they share their first name).

lunch

Pogo - What can we do to get the facts on how someone will behave and drive in the future?

Past Performance?

What they say - regardless of past performance?

It is difficult at best

Pong your candidate would do better to spend his efforts coming up with a plan for the economy then trying to smear Obama. That old stock phrase of "they are going to raise your taxes" does not an economic plan make.

Patsi:

Ronald Reagan and his cronies sent the country on the road to hell, Bush 1 continued it. Clinton slowed it down, and with a shrug and a smirk, Bush 2 handed America back to the crooks

This is what I have been trying to say(when i say it it is very clumsy). Right now is the time to tear down Reagan legacy, a false one at that, The D's will not get this opportunity again,Tear him down point by point, thats how we got here eay. The D's in my mind should not only be concerned about getting O elected, but should strike at the Republican ideas of total capitalism good, and socialism bad. get a little of both and govern from the middle, are the D's just concerned with win right now, or should they be concerned for the future also, I hope so because the future involves a lot of family that i have after i'm gone.

Patsi.....I have always watched a lost of diff channels for my news a few years back (very very little the last 2yrs) and have always liked Craig Crawford, hes seemed likable and knowledgeable, so when I started reading his blog, you stood out to me right away, and you are the reason (main ) reason that i lurked for over a year before i started posting, I'm not very good at this but here is why.

I have a sister named Maria that died (i say have,cause she is still with me every day) 4 years ago this Oct. and when i started to read this blog, watching you fight with some of these flea heads, it reminded me of her, first she would try to make her arguments in a nice way, and take an insult or two, and crossed the line, she could fight and win on their term, she would not back down at all if it was for a cause, to defend someone else etc. Well any way I have seen you go and come back a cple of times, and I also Know that you will not ever go away permanently, this is an extension of the good fight that you have given all your life, and lastly, if you are not able to save the D's from cannibalism, welcome to the Indies,
we are a pretty happy crowd believe it or not.

Wow, McFailin really scared of talking about the economy so close to the election.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081006/ap_on_el_pr/palin

that should read when they crossed the line

So lets see, so far this morning:

NH + 13 for Obama

PA + 11 for Obama

As McCain's Lead Among White Virginians Shrinks, So Too His Chances of Holding The State's 13 Electoral Votes: 29 days until votes are counted in Virginia, Democrat Barack Obama is ahead 53% to 43%, according to this SurveyUSA poll conducted exclusively for WDBJ-TV in Roanoke, WJLA-TV in Washington DC, WTVR-TV in Richmond, and WJHL-TV in the Tri-Cities. In 4 tracking polls conducted since the Republican Convention, McCain has gone from up by 2 to down by 10.

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=00f2d8fb-6a3b-425d-9f27-21df796e8fe5

Throwing around this garbage about Ayers and Rezco is silly. That would bring up McCain's Keating Association, or the backer who supports terrorists, or the white power board of directors.

The whole "guilt by association" is just getting down right old. No one gets to the US Senate without knowing some less than savory people.

Sorry folks, Mr. Smith does not go to Washington. The best you can hope for is that the positives outweigh the negatives and that the issues the politician you support are usually in line with what you believe.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/5/11241/0293/672/620709

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/02/mccain-fundraiser-oversaw_n_110354.html

Looked at broadly, Obama's percent of the vote has been within a very narrow range of 48% to 50% over the last ten days, and McCain's has been within an equally narrow range of 42% of 44% over the same time period. These results suggest that aside from normal sampling error, the underlying dynamics of the race have become quite stable, and underscore the degree to which there has been little meaningful change in the race in well over a week.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/110974/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Leads-50-42.aspx

“You will know me by the company i keep”
Tony Rezko
Nadhmi Auchi
Allison Davis
Raila Odinga
Jaramogi Oginga Odinga
Abongo “Roy” Obama
Abdulkader Al Bakri
Frank Marshall Davis
Bernardine Dohrn
William Ayers
Saul Alinksy
George Soros
Rep. Jan Schakowsky
Robert Creamer
Rev. Jeremiah Wright
Louis Farrakhan
Mohammar Kaddafy
Bernie Sanders
Mike Kruglik
Poul Nyrup Rasmussen
Saul Mendelson
Khaleel Ahmed
Zubair A. Ahmed
Talat M. Othman
Rashid Khalidi
Malik Zulu Shabazz
Robert Malley
Harold Koh
Frank Davis

Bush approval drops to new low of 27%

Don'tcha Just Love it.

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Solar -- Thanks for the note. No, I don 't mind getting down in the mud when that's where the fight goes. What I do mind is misrepresentations and the hypocrisy. I mind clueless cheerleading for any candidate.

And I REALLY mind people attacking others on race or gender terms when what they don't like is an individual's politics.

I'm not a fan of most of Sarah Palin's politics. But she is no different from most arch social conservatives, and less than many, EG: her position on civil unions. Had a man with similar views been the VP pick, none of the people sneering would be doing so on this kind of personal level. That, I believe, is what this political cycle has done. It made sexism not just acceptable, but chic in some circles.

PS, Solar -- I come and go here when, to paraphrase Hunter Thompson, "It finally gets too weird for me."

…and that meeting with Qazwini
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/05/020542.php

DO WE KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT BARACK OBAMA?
YOU BETCHA!!

According to Animal Control since Obama visited his grandmother once in his life, he is now an avid supporter of all African dictators?

Talk about thinking the American voter is completely brain dead and willing to swallow any garbage tossed their way.

By this logic, John McCain is a supporter of all South American dictators, anti semites, and the KKK

Patsi:

Thanks for the call back, and calling me by my first name.

S - ?:
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O(1) & O(1) => 6/K

O(1) & K(1) => 7/T

O(1) & F(1) => ?/?

O(1) & F(2) => ?/?
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O(2) & F(1) => 4/C

O(2) & F(1) => ?/?

O(2) & F(2) => ?/?

dow down 600
don't know how much more rescuing we can stand

This is what a lot of people saw, stop talking about her, get on with the election.

[Sarah Palin]

Not that Mr. Biden was trounced by the ingénue governor. A master of Beltwayspeak and talking points, he effectively presented his case for change. But on style he couldn't possibly compete with the effervescent Mrs. Palin and he knew it. He heightened the contrast between his somber self and her Happy Warrior personality by bringing up "my 35 years of service in public office" -- reminding viewers just how much he is part of the Washington that Mrs. Palin railed against.

Mrs. Palin clearly enjoyed her second star turn on the national stage. Unlike Mr. Biden, she directly faced the camera and addressed the American people. When telling viewers that she had disagreements with Mr. McCain -- on oil drilling in Alaska, for example -- but would keep working to change his mind, she even allowed herself to wink at her audience. That's the mark of a self-confident pro.

As for her media critics, Mrs. Palin took them on by reminding moderator Gwen Ifill that she would answer the questions the way she wanted to, not the way other people wanted her to. As the debate wrapped up, she thanked its organizers for allowing her to speak directly to the American people without the "filter" of the mainstream media. That was a clever way of deflecting attention from her recent choppy and unfocused interview with CBS's Katie Couric and was a guaranteed crowd pleaser with the conservative base.

hello all--

Don't know if anyone has posted this article about McCain written by Tim Dickinson of Rolling Stone Magazine But it is a scathing depiction of his character. Compares his history to that of George Bush's in respect to their upbringing and political motivations. Worth the read I think.

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain

No reason to read the Rolling Stone piece, because it'll just be more of the same. No reason to read any of the right wing emails that come daily, either. I already know the spin.

The case of John McCain is probably one of the saddest in politics. In 2000 he truly did stand for independence. But over the past eight years he has been eaten alive by BushRot. Of course, even in his independent days, he was an arch conservative, as is Chuck Hagel despite his anti-war views.

Mark Warner is 30 points ahead of Jim Gilmore in VA -- nice reverse coat tails. Now people are asking me where they can go to volunteer for the DEMS.

Does anyone have any info on Indiana? I'm interested to know if Jill Long Thompson has a chance there for governor.

Wow, good thing the Democrat-controlled Congress passed Bush's bailout bill, or the market would be down over 700 pts. (7%) today. Oh, wait a second...

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/obamas-rural-challenge.html#comment-155225

Hey Patsi
Wonderful Post!! I agree with you on Palin. I wish the criticisms of her were based only on the issues confronting are country. Ralph Nader told Bill Maher that "he was practicing raw sexism" against Palin and so are many on the left and without shame!!!

Wow, good thing that Barack Obama showed real leadership and stood up to the Bush Administration and it's bailout bill, or the market would be down over 700 pts. today. What's that? Obama lobbied FOR the bailout bill. Oh.

I thought pretty much the same Patsi. There was a time in the 90's when I respected his independence. But after reading this article it seems that it was always a mask. And he is far more of a scary person than I thought.

My ex was in the navy at the same time as McCain. He has always said that he was a fake. A fake at everything. He said that everything was always white washed for McCain. He saw the navy film of the Forrestal when It was burning. He says that you could see McCain running from the fire when everybody else was running toward it to put it out. He has always said that McCain was no hero at any time. This article and the personal accounts seem to bear out what he has always said.

I hope everyone reads at least part of it.

Ya Champ
Maybe they shouldn't do any more to help us....The help is killing my Annuity....

Champ,

Why didn't you lump McCain in your 3:08 comment? Since, listening to him, the bill was dead until he got involved.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-mortgage-holders-deal-100608,0,7304344.story

Settlement for bad loans - Bank America saves the Bacon from the Country Wide

So the alternative to McCain is actually no alternative at all, Rez? Is that what you're saying? Good point.

Living well is a challenge. Friend of mine just told me that things have slowed down a little------has a few dunkin doughnot store, works 18 hrs a day, told him now is a good time to change his value system ( or adjust it some what) pay some attention to hes wife and kids, of someone else will. Loves Obama but not too much his wife

Champ,

I know you fashioned yourself as the resident economist who has railed against people oversimplifying things in the markets. The people you have pushed who champion eliminating the Fed have said that a recession and by connection, this sell off are a good thing for the markets.

If you wish to score cheap points using a populist argument that foments the ignorance of people who fail to recognize the markets that are truly imperiled, I hope you will continue with your simplistic rantings. They offer even less substance than anything any of the presidential candidates have offered us.

No Champ, I was just pointing out your partisanship.

That's cool, Rez. I understand it's easier to attack me than defend your candidate.

Same goes for you, IV. You're putting words in my mouth. At least you're willing to admit both candidates lack substance. Maybe I'm getting somewhere after all.

Champ, I never said he didn't support/vote for the bailout bill. I don't think he should have but I'm not a one issue voter either.

Whichever one of these assholes gets in, the down ticket should be the exact opposite, so they can't hurt us too badly anymore until things can be sorted out and settled down or until someone comes up with a way to ensure ACCOUNTABILITY. Of course this would only work if congress did their f***ing jobs.............

Nice link to SNL, I can't remember who did it, but kudos anyway.....................................................

Mr. Crawford; I hope to God you're wrong about MO. But I also get the vibe that she's there for more than love.............................................................................

Rita

btw Champ I wasn't attacking you, although you like the group to believe you're neutral, which I think is just a ruse.

Champ,

My rule of thumb is, In the absence of two strong candidates, I vote for whomever isn't the biggest asshole. That rules out McCain.

In the absence of two strong candidates, I vote for the one who acts least desperate to be President. Rules out McCain.

In the absence of two strong candidates, even if both are the biggest liars in the world, the one who can do so without my bs detector going off gets the vote. McCain and Palin can't pass many fact check tests and far fewer than the Dems.

Lastly, in the absence of two strong candidates, the one who must win by tearing down their opponent instead of offering up a plan, even if it's a crap plan, loses my vote. Again, McCain loses there.

If you like Grumpy Old Man, rent the movie. Unless the Republicans can nominate a candidate who isn't a total prick and doesn't have to lie all the time and can make me feel positive about something, they deserve the bird they are getting.

Champ, I rarely see you say both are bad...you are as big a believer in the anti obama rhetoric as Pat Robertson is to Jesus.

Just got my copy of the AF Times. They (the AF Times and its companion editions for the other services) surveyed more than 4000 service members on election issues. Their conclusions are here:

Military Times poll: Troops backing McCain
http://www.militarytimes.com/news/2008/10/military_poll_100508w/

I was one of those surveyed--the methodology was quite similar to the surveys I receive from Harris.

And as the markets tumbled in the East, the senator from Arizona and his Alaskan Annie Oakley were seen riding off into the West, never to be heard from again.

Plenty of criticism of McCain here without me chiming in, IV.

The tragedy from my perspective is that there are only two options from yours.

"...if both are the biggest liars in the world, the one who can do so without my bs detector going off gets the vote."

That should be the one of whom you should be more critical.

"Troops backing McCain" ??

From the article Flatus:

"Sen. John McCain enjoys overwhelming support from the military’s professional core.". . .

"The results of the Military Times 2008 Election Poll are not representative of the opinions of the military as a whole. The group surveyed is older, more senior in rank and less ethnically diverse than the overall armed services."

And, of course the next paragraph, Rez:

"But as a snapshot of careerists, the results suggest Democrats have gained little ground in their attempts to appeal to a traditionally Republican voting bloc in campaign messages and legislative initiatives, such as the recent expansion of GI Bill benefits, experts said."

FWIW, I think headline writers, as a group, are among the most incompetent journalism professionals. I often wonder if they read anything beyond the first and last paragraphs of the articles they're doing headlines for.

Rez I mentioned the health care costs earlier today, kiss Florida goodbye Grandpa!

Hello North Carolina!

Raleigh, N.C. – With his party beginning to line up behind him to a greater extent than it
had previously, Barack Obama has opened up a 50-44 lead over John McCain in North
Carolina in the newest survey from Public Policy Polling.
Last week Obama led by two points. He is now winning 82% of the Democratic vote,
compared to just 74% a week ago. For most of the general election his share of his own
party’s vote has hovered in the upper 60’s and lower 70’s.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_NC_100625.pdf

Agreed Flatus. The headline is what catches our attention and without good ones, print or audio, audiences might never get further past them.

Military Times poll: Troops backing McCain

Posted by: Flatus Author Profile Page | October 6, 2008 4:22 PM

Flatus, I can understand why.

regards, toast

At this somber time of uncertainty, rife with partisan rancor, and the market tumbling, it is comforting to know that one issue, like no other, has brought our diverse nation together, and that is in our strong condemnation of Ivan the Terrible.

Ivan, the first Czar of Russia was incredibly ruthless in deterring foreign invaders but he was also brutal to his subjects. He grew ever more unpopular, but gave the Russian people what they graved, security, and by force he doubled the size of the country seizing any territory he coveted. It was Ivan the Terrible who imbued the Russian psyche with a need for a strong, often aggressive leader.

Putin is no Ivan, but he is certainly terrible in killing freedom and in his steady consolidation of power. A petro rich Russia is reasserting its claim as a world power, and its near monopoly of oil and gas has a stranglehold on Europe and its aggression in Georgia is but a test, the prize is the Ukraine itself.

Obama has "every advantage" and will probably win, and I take BO at his word when he says he will go anywhere, talk to anyone, and exhaust all measures to confront the Ivan's of our time. Equally, I perceive BO hasn't the experience, mettle, or fortitude to defend our interests.

Yet what troubles and scars my nights, is who amongst BO's entourage of 300 will have the courage to tell him, that his Caffè latte has left a white mustache above his upper lip, while Putin does shots of vodka looking deeply into BO's soul and likes what he sees, a timorous, weak man.

PUMA/Clintons4McCain - "Obama, a weak man for tough times."

toast

Too bad we don't have that system when the government loses the confidence of the voters, there is a new election.
We'd have voted already.

Flatus,

It's apparent from the internals that as the survey group becomes more diverse by race and gender, the results will be less Right leaning.

"Sooner or later people are going to figure out that if all you run is negative attack ads you don't have much of a vision for the future, or you're not ready to articulate it."

That was John McCain in 2000, commenting on the disgusting attacks against him by Karl Rove, George Bush, and a few of the people now doing their very dirty work for him.

You guys will enjoy this so much you will resent the fact that I posted it.

Sarah Palin- "Head of Skate"
http://www.boingboing.net/2008/09/26/fake-disney-movie-tr.html

"It's apparent from the internals that as the survey group becomes more diverse by race and gender, the results will be less Right leaning."

Yes, Rez, but still not so monolithicaly supportive of Obama as is the general population. I was surprised by how closely the results from the different services matched each other.

No just more Democrat.imo

Annals Of Chutzpah I

06 Oct 2008 04:25 pm

McCain calls Obama a liar. But Obama really was trying to teach kindergartners about sex. The McCain-Palin ticket is a tragedy and a farce, respectively.

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Fifty-three percent of likely voters questioned in the poll say they are backing Obama for president, with 45 percent supporting McCain.

That 8-point lead is double the 4-point lead Obama held in the last CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll, taken in mid-September.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/06/poll.of.polls/index.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-fiderer/fox-news-barney-frank-esc_b_132347.html

Since Fox said Frank escaped blame because he was gay, how long before Bush says he's gay to escape blame for his presidency?

You know this whole Ayers thing remind me of the repugs going after Bill because he visited Russia while in college.

The fundamentals of our economy is strong???

I am following the DOW - with balance and planning it is a good time to find great bargains.

Look at Citigroup and Wells Fargo ferocious battle for Wachovia. They see a bargain,

Long Term
Short Term

Watch for the trend and be ready to jump in……..
Posted by: Ping Pong | October 6, 2008 11:03 AM

Fox News Poll just out

Ohio +1 McCain

Florida +7 Obama

VA +2 Obama

Colorado + 6 Obama

MO +3 Obama

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/latestpolls/index.html

ABC NEWS/WASHINGTON POST POLL: THE RACE IN OHIO
EMBARGOED FOR RELEASE AFTER 6:30 p.m. Monday, Oct. 6, 2008
Economy and Ground Game Alike
Give Obama an Advantage in Ohio

http://abcnews.go.com/images/PollingUnit/1075a1Ohio08.pdf

Interesting that pollsters are starting to take ground game into account.

via real clear politics.. Frank M Davis another of Barky associates. He was not only a documented member of the communist party USA, he was also a sex pervert, homosexual and pornographer. His fbi file suggests he may have been involved in espionage acivities on behalf of the soviet union.

http://dotherightthing-cyberpastor.blogspot.com/2008/10/naked-truth-about-communist-mentor.html

Link to story of Frank M Davis

gay, black, commie, well that pretty much covers all bases doesn't it Julie!

Julie,
I thought you were around when GORDO and maxtrue were dragging these people up here everyday for weeks during the primaries.These guys are old news.

Real cornucopia of bigotry there, you have to search long for that Julie?

Olbermann is doing a "special comment" on Sarah Palin tonight. Shall we lay odds on how many times he will refer to her as MRS PALIN, say HOW DARE YOU, or employ the outraged HAVE YOU NO SHAME stentorian emphasis?

Something wrong with the truth!
Just shows what kind of company Barky keeps. And this is the man you want to be president of our country. He should not even be competing.

"These guys are old news."

In other words, find some new mud to fling. Find some new skeletons. LOL

At least make it interesting and entertaining for us.

The Past is the Future.

Nothing wrong with the truth, that's why I'm pointing out to you that's a hate sight. Does the truth about your surfing material bother you? Very first paragraph on the link you posted:

"He was not only a documented member of the Communist Party USA, but a sex pervert, homosexual and pornographer."

Obviously you think the fact the man is gay (if it's true, frankly I don't care about such things) is some kind of weapon to be used against the gentleman in question, and according to you by proxy against Obama. It's not much of a leap to assume that you must have a problem with gay people. Afraid of the truth Julie?

And these McCarthy era tactics, "documented member of the communist party" I hope you've had a recent tetanus shot Julie, scraping the bottom of a 50 year old barrel could be dangerous to your health, and at your age you shouldn't take chances.

And while I have your attention Julie would you please be so kind as tell us your definition of what constitutes a pervert?

It's not as if McCain has anything to lose, and Ayers is certainly fair game. Amazing that Ayers is let within 100 yards of schoolchildren given his past. If Palin is to be chastised for her associations with secessionists and fundamentalist Christians, why shouldn't the same standard be used for Obama whose career and livelihood were advanced by admitted terrorists and convicted felons?

Flatus,

Sentences in paragraphs two and three tell you that the poll is complete bs and about as accurate as one of those "on line" polls:

McCain, R-Ariz., handily defeated Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., 68 percent to 23 percent in a voluntary survey.

The results of the Military Times 2008 Election Poll are not representative of the opinions of the military as a whole.

Jamie follow the money, far more of our enlisted men and woman have contributed to Obama than McCain.

If anyone knows a hate site, it's the new york hate monger.

Just as long as the Dodgers keep winning....everything be alright.

The most terrifying word in the English language, are.

I'm from the government and I'm here to help----R. Reagan

Flatus,

Normally, I would agree that the military tends to the right side of the spectrum, but not this year. Where I live is heavily military. Right now they are very, very disillusioned with Bush in particular and the Republican party in general. An accurate split of the military would probably be closer to 50 50 and may even side slightly in Obama's direction.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/obamas-rural-challenge.html#comment-155281

And they haven't said a word about McCain going to Rio to get laid.

The nearest thing to eternal life we have on this earth is
a government program-------R. Reagan

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/obamas-rural-challenge.html#comment-155296

Her associations are close and current and Obama's aren't

Corey,

October 9

Dodgers vs. Phillies.

GO DODGERS!!!!!

B.S Jamie. Rezko helped Obama get a house, and Ayers got him a job. That's pretty close.

What job did Ayers help him get?

Hey Jamie you see KO had the guy from 538 on?

Hoping Sturge is out there somewhere listening. Here's how my night is going:

"One martini is all right. Two are too many, and three are not enough."
--James Thurber

Ayers got Obama a job on some community education board. Look it up yourself, I'm busy right now.

The Repug's have had these talking points that still work, this is what why they win, they keep it simple, that even a Bush, or a Palin can compete for potus, the D's throw in the Genus, confuse the general public, joe six pack, hockey moms, etc, but below is the killer,guns, and religon.

No arsenal, or weapon in the arsenals of the world, is as formidable as the will and moral courage, of the free men and women... R. Reagan

If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under. R. Reagan

This is what all R's use-----What word, words, concept,that the average person does not understand,if we were not in financial melt down I'm not so sure that Obama would win,so how much is the D's spending on this election? the money that O has and will spend, plus 700bil, and more that is going to cost all of us?

Cubs done for the season, White Sox done for the season. That leaves Obama as the city of Chicago's only hope.

You're wrong again champ, and that story has already been debunked, look it up.

Come on Champ, Find us a real terrrorist ! Ayers was just a flunky. The best he could do was blow himself up. LOL

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/obamas-rural-challenge.html#comment-155310

Yes. 538 is getting to be a regular stop by for me.

Champ is just upset that America's reaction to Ayers has been "yeah so?".

No one wants to re-argue the 60s except a bunch of way past retirement age bigots. Right Julie?

Jamie said;

Amazing what you can find out when you are looking for facts instead of dirt.

---------------Very Nice--------------------

Obama and Pro-Palestinian supporter Rashid Khalidi

http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/10/04/obama-and-pro-palestinian-supporter-rashid-khalidi/

Just checked 538. Their projection if election held today is 339 Obama. That is between Lardo and ET in the contest.

LOL, oh GORDO, you funny.

GORDO. old news. put a water with that dirt maybe it will stick. lmao

Sorry Julie but you've just gone to the type of well a little too often.

Loudon: More Weathermen for Obama (Updated)

http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/10/01/loudon-more-weathermen-for-obama/

"What I object to is the unsavoryness of all of Obamas
associations.."

Hey Julie, I got a novel idea. Don't vote for him !

Loudon: Toxic Trio! Ayers, Davidson, Klonsky Linked to Pro-Obama Organisation

http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/09/27/loudon-toxic-trio-ayers-davidson-klonsky-linked-to-pro-obama-organisation/

GORDO,

If you're supporting McCain like these guys support Obama, then no way in hell is McCain qualified to be President. He's guilty by association.

Rez

Have no fear. I will never vote for Obama. And I am sure that I will not change the mind of a single person who intends to vote for him. I just hope that when you pull that lever or write in the name Obama, you know full well what he is.. If you can vote with a clear conscious and believe he is a trustworthy and honest man when the facts prove he is not, good luck.
You have every right to your vote the same as I do.

Klein: Ex-Weathermen terrorist in group backing Obama. Communists, socialists, anarchists also part of political organization

http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/09/26/klein-ex-weathermen-terrorist-in-group-backing-obama-communists-socialists-anarchists-also-part-of-political-organization/

No problem Julie. I'll sleep like a baby too.

I just figured out what the October surprise is, the desperation of McCain and his followers.

Remember: Odinga

Remember The Maine.

"The two met "at a luncheon meeting about school reform in a Chicago skyscraper." Obama was then named to the Chicago Annenberg Project board to oversee the distribution of grants in Chicago. Later in 1995, Ayers hosted "a coffee" for "Mr. Obama's first run for office." Both Obama and Ayers were members of the board of an anti-poverty group, the Woods Fund of Chicago, between 2000 and 2002, during which time the board met twelve times. Ayers also contributed $200 to Obama's re-election fund to the Illinois State Senate in April 2001.""

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers#Connection_to_Barack_Obama

Form wikipedia, whatever reliance you have for that source. They served on boards together; that's a pretty close relationship. There's much more blatantly partisan info available, but I won't cite it. Is anything in this post under dispute?

G Man,

I remember Larry Sinclair and L. Johnson's MO "hate whitey' tape plus about a half a dozen other BS tales you promoted around here over the past six months.

I was wondering when you'd surface with some new material. Now I can really sleep better. It's gets old sleeping with one eye open all the time.lol

Posted by: Rezdog Author Profile Page | October 6, 2008 8:35 PM

Ayers seems like a pretty despicable guy, and was actively violent. I don't really understand how you can laugh that off.

Oh good Rachel is covering McCain's medicare plan!

I understand that as partisans, many of you are doing whatever it is you feel you need to to ensure your candidates' victory and that won't change until at the earliest, Nov. 4th. I sincerely hope that after that date, you will be critical of the administration and not allow it to run amok as the Bush administration has for the last 7-8 years. I doubt it though, especially considering how giddy some of you are concerning the prospect of one party controlling both the Legislative and Executive branches.

NEW is OLD.

The thing about bigotry and racism, is that those that hold it tightly within their core beliefs, usually do not seek to change it, Therefore, when they exposed their beliefs in posts or conversations - often they become offended when what they believe is challenged by those people that disagree.

I am proud of those who continue to try to make a difference.
Keep up the good work.....America is ready for a positive change.

Champ
In effect the Dems have been in control - Bush has just laid down.....

So Obama - What would be the change

Champ

9:40 post is spot on. One party controlling both legislative and Executive branches is just as bad for the democrats as it was for the republicans, ie Bush administration.. The same principal applies
"Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men."

I have tried but still can't buy into Obama even though I think he will win this election but I think it will be a win by default. I keep reading this blog and you guys just haven't convinced me. Some of my reasons are:

Obama got his career started using very shifty characters and then threw them under the bus. I would think that anyone wanting to pursue a high level political career would avoid, not use the people that he used. What does he owe these guys? It is a shame that the media did not really investigate this earlier. It is fair for McCain to do it now. I would like to hear Obama's explanation for all of these guys, not just that they were neighbors or shared a committee/church.

It is pure BS that intelligent Obama didn't understand the philosophy of Wright or Ayres. I can't understand why so many people can be aware of these connections and just blow it off as being insignificant. Must be that hypnotic effect he has on people.

IMO, much of Obama's popularity is that he is not GWB or a Republican, not because of who he is. He also often benefits from the political windfall of inaction. "I didn't do that....I didn't vote for that." Voting present. How can I trust someone just because he wasn't there or didn't have to make the tough decisions. His lack of experience doesn't give me much confidence in what he would do when the sh-- hits the fan and it is flying at us right now.

Still don't understand why Obama should benefit from this economy crisis. I haven't seen any good explantion for this, except, again, that he is not a Republican or wasn't there long enough. The Dems also have to accept much of the responsiblity for this crisis. I don't have confidence in very many in Congress right now. Only a very few have impressed me, More have disgusted me.

As for McCain, I like the fact that he didn't take any earmarks. Earmarks are payoffs in a way. According to someone I heard last night, McCain never took an earmark in all his years in Congress while Obama had about a million dollars of earmarks per working day.

Also McCain did often buck his party. He never came across to me as a typical Republican. I see him as more independent. I don't even think people like Rush L. like him. I wonder if he will vote Obama.

I certainly don't like many of the Republican party ideas but a Dem. majority in Congress ought to keep those crazy things in check. It is more important not to have the same party in the executive and legislative branches. Too much power always corrupts.

Still another debate left. Maybe if I look deep into Obama's eyes I will come under his spell. It will be very hard for me not vote for a Democrat for President this year.

This has turned out to be a very depressing election year. I am totally bummed out about it. I miss my passion for politics. It doesn't help that due to the bums on Wall Street and Congress I have lost over half of all my lifelong investments and I am closing in on retirement. I want to punch someone.

No matter who I vote for for president I do still plan to vote for all my local and state Dems. Now to watch my Saints. Hope they can win cheer me up but right now they are behind.

Again JMHO.
Carol

Champ,

Last go around on Ayers for me today.

From all I've read:
--- met because his children attended school where Ayers kids once attended years earlier. Met a school function.

--Ayers hosted a "coffee" for Alice palmer the outgoing State legislator whose seat Obama was filling. He was present.

---they served on WF and Annenberg boards.

---Ayers donated $200 to Obama's campaign in 01

Not much else except knew each other thru Univ Chic. and Columbia connection.

Ayers didn't kill anyone and he was exonerated in 80. Like many 60's left radicals they did some mean, violent, stupid crap but he's hardly open to that now from all all can read.
40 years ago. in 2001 promoting his book, Ayers did say ''I don't regret setting bombs'' and "I feel we didn't do enough'' regarding the group's violent protests against the Vietnam War.

No one ever says anything nice about a McCain/Palin presidential ticket.......in regards as to why they are best suited for the job at this point in time.

Kind gets old listen to peopl b*tch about someone (Obama) they have declared they are not voting for....I mean seriously....Is that all there is left to say?

I would love to hear why McCain/Palin ticket is supported, by their supporters. The high notes......any high note......at least one high note.......

Unlikely_burrito,

The choice could not be more clear !!

Plain and simple McCain for better fiscal policy - and in fact a change in fiscal policy. Less Government - with strong regulation - with ACCOUNTABILITY!

But Obama is shifting closer to McCain each day...
Obama if you want more Federal controls like a big Church driving social policy...

I repeat it again - Obama is not change - as Bush has laid down, been complacent and allowed failed fiscal policy - which is a key reason we have this crisis

Call me self-righteous, Rez, but I wouldn't accept money, serve on a board, or accept the invitation of a guy like Ayers. That's just me.

DOW under 10000......

How's that working out for folks?
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Prediction Dow will drop another 300 points tomorrow at the close.

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enjoy the rest of the evening.....time for some R&R

The difference in the attached - Bush warns but does nothing and allows pressure from Dems to not allow regulation as More People are in Houses,, And Houses always grow in value .. Ha.....
Barney looks so good in this Video... to bad he is blind to the facts. He drove for affordable housing. Bush allowed it.

McCain will not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM&feature=related

Burrito.... Hey how about a response... !!

The facts are very clear..

Obama is more of the same failed practice that allows social policy to override sound fiscal policy..

Unless he makes another CHANGE and goes beyond his Words just Words

" Less Government - with strong regulation " McCain has never practiced those concepts. He's had a lifetime to make a difference, he has been ineffective......seriously.....the Republicans of yesteryear are long long gone......they have destroyed their own party, and the party has become toxic. (jmo) --over 65 and rich...watching their funds shrink are even beginning to switch support to Obama......they are pissed off

The religious right however, they are totally in love with Palin, and many have stated they wished she was at the top of the ticket.

(based a small sampling of real people )

Our contacts in Washington, through business, Republicans have been ticked off at the Rep Party for well over two years....... out of control lack of fiscal responsibility is what indeed is killing that party - according to those very close to the action....

(can not disclose contacts)

That's my response.....can't keep hiring those who failed.....

McCain will get it done - with accountability! I agree with his early statement regarding key agency heads - that they should be fired! - and hey surprise others are now joining McCain.

Do you know Sarah Palin view on Abortion? Oh gosh Katie cut those parts !! She is NOT a right winger - but very middle of the road.

The Republicans of 06 got kicked out - now do it to the Dems!!!

And pray that Obama does continue his CHANGE and Morphs into a somewhat fiscal sound individual that does not continue what the Dem's have pushed and Bush allowed

have a great night.

You tooo.. Thanks for hanging for one more comment... Bed time for Ping also

Best to ya

Champ.
He's been doing work with the Univ of SC College of Education. Now does make all his colleagues there suspicious and subversive. AND I've given him more than $200 BFD.

Rezdog

One more comment.. 2001 Ayers wrote a book, the New york times had a big article on Ayers.. Obama had connections to Ayers after 2001..
You are wrong ,.. one woman died in those bombings...
Obama continued connection to Ayers after 2001 does show in fact his poor judgement.
Now one of Obama Aides are saying he never read a newspaper and did not know of Ayers.( Another article on real clear politics) BS all the way.
He knew it and condoned the associaion after 2001 making him a liar if he says he did not know it.. It has been proven he had connectons after 2001..

correction
10:44 posting
1970 bombing of a police station in California. One office was killed and many injured.

Weathermen were making bombs in New York and they exploded killing weathermen.

I would rather the President has good judgment re: decisions that will actually make a difference in the lives of Americans, i.e., the Economy and Foreign Policy.

***

Can anyone explain how Obama's associations will have any tangible impact on my life?

"You are wrong ,.. one woman died in those bombings."

What are you talking about Julie .??

No indictments no convictions for killing (bombing)anyone by the Weatherman Underground.

Three of their own members died in an explosion themselves.

Julie this is getting old. Just don't vote for him! Okay

Why aren't concerned about Palin being under investigation for corruption? Or McCain's treatment of his first wife. Convicted felon Libby is his good buddy. You don't care??

Ayers & Dorn

"... with federal charges against both fugitives dropped due to prosecutorial misconduct ..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_ayers

Re: the last thread. That Palin woman is Dick Cheney or Karl Rove in a skirt. See The Snake song.

"The Truth about Barack Obama and William Ayers"

http://fightthesmears.com/articles/22/ayerssmear?source=sem-pm-fts-ay-search-us&gclid=CMT0tZuRlJYCFQNaFQodpXNOEQ

tt

"Can anyone explain how Obama's associations will have any tangible impact on my life?"

No one can or has done so here.

Sorry for the length - people need to know.
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So Who Is This Bill Ayers??

..."Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn (now married to Ayers) were two of the most infamous domestic terrorists ever to be allowed to continue to walk the earth in America, thanks to a screw up in the surveillance. But that didn’t stop Ayers from bragging on what he did. “i don’t regret setting bombs. I feel we didn’t do enough”
–Bill Ayers, September 11, 2001

Weatherman, AKA Weather Underground Organization, was a violent U.S Radical Left group. They called themselves a revolutionary organization whose purpose was to carry out a series of attacks to overthrow of the Government of the United States.

So what exactly DID Obama’s friend, campaign ally and Woods Foundation Colleague and his wife do?

For starters, the Weather Underground claimed credit for a bombing in Chicago, which they referred to as a “kickoff” of what they called their “Days Of Rage”. Their book. entitled, “Prairie Free”, strongly called for a unified Communist Party.

The Weather Underground blew up several Chicago Police cars at that time as well.

Next, these slime balls held a “war council” to firm up plans to remain underground and commit acts of sabotage against the US Government. They bombed several police cars in Berkley. Then they detonated a bomb at the San Francisco Police Department, during which one officer was killed and several others were injured. When 36 sticks of dynamite were discovered at a police precinct in Detroit, Bill Ayers just happened to be in town.

Later, several of the Underground’s own members died when they accidentally blew up their own bomb factory in New York. No loss. The bomb was intended to be used at an officer’s dance at Fort Dix. The bomb they were going to use was packed with nails for maximum damage. Fortunately those nails ended up stuck in their own miserable dead asses instead. Then another bomb factory was discovered in Chicago’s North side. Their weapons cache was also discovered in an apartment in Chicago’s South side. Then they blew up the National Guard building in DC.

They claimed credit for the explosion of the San Francisco Hall of Justice, which never occurred. Later, an undetonated explosive device was discovered on the premises. Then the NY City Police headquarters was bombed. Then they bombed the Presidio Army Base in San Francisco in honor of the anniversary of the Cuban Revolution.

Next, they bombed the US Capital. Another of their bomb factories was discovered in San Francisco. Then they bombed the office of California Prisons, The New York Department of Corrections in Albany, NY, and William Bundy’s office at MIT Research Center.

They bombed the Pentagon. They bombed the 103 Police Precinct in New York. Then they bombed the ITT buildings in both New York and Rome, Italy. They bombed the Department of Health, Education and Welfare. They bombed the Office of California of Attorney General. They bombed Gulf’s Pittsburgh headquarters. Then they bombed the Anaconda headquarters. They bombed the State Department. They bombed the Banco De Ponce in Puerto Rico as well as the Kennekot Corporation. They also committed the Brinks Robbery in conjunction with the Black Liberation Army.

So, let me ask you: If you had any judgment at all, and if you billed yourself as a “Uniter,” would you go to Bill Ayers’ home and be on the Woods Fund with him for years? Would you take a political contribution from him and let him introduce you around? Would you mind if your sister brought Bill Ayers home to meet the family?"

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/17/so-who-is-this-bill-ayers/

"people need to know."

Why? More of your BS G Man. Answer Warren @ 11:02

So Rez I can't decide what to be more grateful for to Obama. I've got it down to two choices, first, swelling the ranks of the DNC with his well organized and funded voter reg drives. Or driving the bigoted small minded crowd that sadly still populated our ranks till recently.

I am not worried about McCain because he is associated with Pastor Hagee and other wackos.

I am worried about his belligerent Foreign Policy and his desire to continue the same failed Economic Policies of the last 8 years.

I am worried about the fact that he is obsessed with Iraq.

I am worried about his tendency to make rash decisions without thinking through all of the potential ramifications.

Red Sox are in !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WImLU31G2o8

Warren i'm worried about that weird noise he makes when he takes about his running mate.

Viva La Barracuda!!

Why bother to explain. If you don't understand by now, you probably never will. Some of us don't just think about "ME".

Doesn't it make you laugh when you hear these idiots spout, well I'm an Independent now? Like it's some punishment we won't recover from. Don't they realize there are a thousand who just took their place. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out!

Bother. I have never heard a cogent explanation.

I get it G Man, it's Us(you) against them.

Be careful what you wish for warren!

You have no idea what is developing. You certainly are not alone. Most MSM reporters are completely unaware, also.

Kay Hagan continues to hold a commanding lead over Elizabeth Dole for the state’s
Senate seat. She is up 49-40, with Libertarian Christopher Cole pulling 5% of the vote.
She’s up double digits among independent voters and is winning in almost every region
of the state.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_NC_100625.pdf

Now there is one lady I can't wait to see on the unemployment line!

Hey GORDO didn't you tell us the same thing about Hillary pulling off the nomination at the last minute? You're a joke, and a sad joke at that.

Does Larry Sinclair got a new tape with him and Obama in bed. or what?
Good lord Gordo, sometimes I wonder whether I need to contact the authorities.

You never did understand the "fingerprint" problem.

John McCain would pay for his health plan with major reductions to Medicare and Medicaid, a top aide said, in a move that independent analysts estimate could result in cuts of $1.3 trillion over 10 years to the government programs.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122315505846605217.html

Warren I have a feeling that at some point tomorrow night Obama is going to pull a copy of that article out his jacket pocket during the debate and read it to the audience.

G Man,

If someone knows something and not contacting the proper people, then someone's in big trouble regardless on the best channels of communications.

Good night everyone.

(I am off to have some nightmares re: GORDO's cryptic posts....)

Just level with us G-man...or is it too early to let the big secret out?

Important development today, but few MSM consumers know about it - concerns something I've posted on. There is a "time" problem. The BIG question is this: Do the Repubs already have the info? If they do, it's over for SoetorObama. He could be facing serious jail time.

"It is true that Obama and his campaign aides have been less than forthcoming about the extent and nature of his relations with William Ayers...

...Still, Obama owes voters a more complete explanation of his feelings about Ayers and why he so eagerly accepted this man's help in launching his political career."

-Craig Crawford

The first statement is pretty powerful considering Craig's familiarity with the inside operations of presidential politics.

GORDO meet Champ, Champ meet GORDO.

Bruce performs free acoustic set at EMU in Ypsilanti: an Obama fundraiser.

http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081006/NEWS15/81006026

How does Obama's friendship with Ayres compare to Senator mccain voting to arm both osama bin ladin and saddam hussein in the 1980s ?

Obama was only 11 years old when the weather underground fizzled out. By contrast, john mccain was in his mid-40s when he began arming the terrorist osama bin ladin and the genocidal maniac saddam hussein.

Do You Suffer from rAF ?

I worked on many political campaigns with old Joe Nelson. We often held meetings in each others' homes. We partied together, too. Joe and I confided our political ambitions to each other, and our dreams for America. How was I to know that he was a Knight of St. Peter Claver ? I never asked him if he ate fish on Friday, and Joe never offered the information.

Fortunately, the John Birch Society was Crusading to prevent a Catholic from becoming president and bringing the Pope to Washington to rule over us. One day, I noticed that the ring on Joe's finger was the same as one I had just seen pictured in the most recent copy of American Opinion, the John Birch Society newsletter. It was the Da Vinci decoder ring worn by the Knights of Peter Claver, that most dangerous and secret of all Catholic Societies, men dedicated to destroying all that Freedom Loving Protestants hold dear !

Well, I'll tell you, I quickly informed my Klavern that Joe was a Catholic spy set among us by the Antichrist, and in no time we had drummed him out of the party and into the deep woods, if you catch my meaning. It just goesta showya, ya never can tell.

If you enjoyed this micro-fiction, you'll probably also enjoy the mccain/palin/JulieYoung/GORDO tales of old Bill Ayers turning young Barack Obama into a KGB agent over a glass of Miller and a bowl of Screaming Yellow Zonkers.

Copy, cut, paste and send this post to all your friends, who are suffering from rAF - "republican Anger Fatigue". Remember, dirisive laughter has been scientifically proven to aid in recovery from the affects of rAF in university studies.

ls that gI heard in a conversation re Palin's prayer answer to homsexuaays have stated that they choose the lifestyle, rather than are born to it. I've never heard such an argument before - can it be true that some gays have said that? Do some gays feel they have chosen to be gay? I'm hesitant to argue the point because I don't want to give the idea an opportunity to be heard, because frankly I don't believe it - altho what do I know?

Alice Palmer, the out-going state senator - you mean the one Obama got booted off the ballot by questioning her petition signatures?

I read that someone tried to diagram one of Palin's sentences and couldn't. That's funny because I tried to do it in my head and gave it up as way too messy a proposition, and doomed to be a losing one at that.

I have no idea of what the first three words above mean- Is that gl..........I know I meant to say "I heard....".
That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Also, if Mudcat is still around, I'd like to know what Bubba thinks of James Lee Burke's descriptions and definitions of Bubba.