Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

Craig, what an odd time. I'll be watching. How about a shout out to the blog?

Teasing.

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Craig-you mean like those "Are you a Marxist?" questions?

She'll be starry eyed, but Maddow may come up with a few tough questions tomorrow night.

I like this one from the Onion. Obama undertakes Presidential Internship program. He interns with the President of Spain.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=45420763

Are they going to show the Barry and Bubba show? We've heard about it all day. The "Amber Waves of Grain" commercial closed with it. I'd like to see it.

Never mind. It's coming up on Anderson Cooper or at least some of it.

Hey Gordo,

Love the October surprise. Yea Phillies!

Obama comes up again here at 8 on NBC according to my tv guide.

I'm not defending McCain. The SoetorObama spin is a lie. So what's new?
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McCain gave funds to group co-founded by Khalidi

"Unreported by the Huffington Post is that the CPRS, with which Khalidi was for a time moderately involved, is pro-Western and can be characterized as pro-Israel.

Its work has been condemned by the Palestinian leadership and by local terror groups as "Zionist propaganda."

In contrast, the Khalidi organization Obama helped fund as a board member for a nonprofit, alongside domestic terrorist William Ayers, has taken a flagrantly anti-Israel line. Khalidi's Arab American Action Network has hosted scores of Israel-bashing events, including at least one reportedly attended by Obama."

http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=79441

And God Bless America for the freedom of speech that oodles and oodles of money can buy you!! Bottom rung now top...

Caught the guy with the good hair. You have to hand it to Obama. He has absolutely owned the message today. Talk about taking all the air out of the room.

A speechwriter for Obama, Edwards, and Clinton on why she’s voting McCain:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2008-10-28/so-long-obama/1/

I might have to change my thinking and give a little bit to the Clintons' debt. Bill' did the best job for Obama I've ever seen. I had to give my last shot to Obama yesterday, so I'll finish it with a little for Hillary's.

Bah Bye Wendy,

Don't go away mad, just go away! Or as my uncle use to say,
"We don't what to why you're leaving, just leave'".

typo, what = want

>>

I don't understand what you or your uncle said!

At least, we could understand Wendy!

Rezdog...."Don't go away mad, just go away!".....that's basically what Osama said to Hillary.

typo, Osama = Hussein Obama

He's not a Dem.

Brain...I am not amazed that you, a BIGOT, is proud of the fact that you are a BIGOT!

I was a Bill Clinton man for years , and it was great to see him on TV firing up the folks to get out the vote. I had heard the infomercial cost Obama $90 mil...wow, was that guy off! ( He was a caller into a radio show)
Obama is campaigning on education and economic issues...I wonder how much authority he will delegate to Biden to somehow fix the Iraq mess.
The issue I care most about, getting out of Iraq, is barely mentioned these days. Nobody can fix the economy as ten of billions of dollars continually go the destruction of Iraq...and how's the democracy doing over there...isn't that what we are there for?

5/6 mil was what all the various pundits said was the cost.

Ran across this, and realized how similar it was to Obama's closing argument in Floriday tonight. Brought back memories...

"In keeping with our party's grand tradition, I reaffirm Jefferson's belief in individual liberty and capacity for self-government. I endorse Jackson's credo of equal opportunity for all, special privileges for none. I embrace Roosevelt's thirst for innovation and Kennedy's summons to civic duty. And I intend to carry on Clinton's insistence upon new means to achieve progressive ideals.

I believe that the promise of America is equal opportunity for all and special privilege for none. I believe that economic growth generated in the private sector is the prerequisite for opportunity, and that government's role is to promote growth and to equip Americans with the tools they need to prosper in the New Economy.

I believe that government programs should be grounded in the values most Americans share: work, family, personal responsibility, individual liberty, faith, tolerance, and inclusion.

I believe in community; that we can achieve our individual destinies only if we share a commitment to our national destiny. I believe in an ethic of mutual responsibility in which government has an obligation to create opportunity for citizens, but citizens have an obligation to give something back to the commonIalth.

I believe America has a responsibility to lead the world toward greater political and economic freedom.

I believe that as advocates of activist government, We need to reinvent government so that it is both more responsive and more accountable to those it serves and to the taxpayers who pay for it."

Barak Obama? No, I changed the word "We" to "I", and quoted the Democratic Leadership Council's official Credo...Barak Obama recited the ethos of the Clinton wing of the Democratic Party: Economic Opportunity, Personal Values, Government Reforms, Personal Responsibility, and National Security...

His homage to the DLC in Clinton's presence tonight almost brought tears to my eyes...

www.dlc.org

Interesting Spike....

Morning all......

"......... he didn't have to put up with annoying questions from Larry King "

Say it ain't so Craig, say it ain't so !

The morning Zogby -

O - 50.2% yesterday ( 49.1%)
M - 43.3% yesterday( 44.4%)

http://www.zogby.com/

CNN changed their map today ( all moving Obama's way ), but Bill Schneider's piece that accompanied it was very revealing .
Obama is winning in the suburbs.

http://countryfirst.bravehost.com/images/anibadmen.gif

One thing Johnny Mac forgot to take from the HRC defeat... is the fierce BO groundgame.
For the second time in the same election the BO ground force is outhussling the opponent.
Amazing!!!!!!!!
Let us say that HRC got caught off guard.... But Johnny Mac had endless time to prepare for it, he was the parties choice months before HRC dropped out.
Mad props to the BO team. I will not comment on the tactics used, but mad props for them to carry on for a second succesive time.
The repugs should´ve done a better deal.

Been hearing some word that Samantha Power is back in the limlelight for a cabinet post. (eg: She was the one fired after calling HRC a monster)
UK press is also insisting that Caroline Kennedy will be the US ambassador to the UK ( I refuse to believe that)

For all the commies everywhere -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SboRijhWFDU

GORDO -

What no cowbell ?

Jason -- I've been hearing that Powers rumor as well.

Rosie -- Promise Keepers have been around a long time. Basic concept: We will be faithful husbands and good fathers as long as we rule.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/obamas-cash-lead-produces-a-bi.html#comment-165869

What a pathetic comment

knowing and being able to regularly speak with Helen Thomas is incredibly hip.........writing a book with her is off the scale.......really looking forward to seeing that book..........

you know, there was something about that wendy button article at 12:03 that reminded me of elizabeth e.... not that she would vote repug or for j-mc even as an indie, but the disgust about the shallow coverage and the flagrance of sexism in our political conversation this election.
btw, yesterday's wapo had an interesting story on eliz's health care crusade and her return to the public limelight.

Ditto your sentiments, sturge. I'm anxious for the Thomas/Crawford book. (Craig -- hope you don't mind me giving Helen top billing...ha)

CC -
When's the publishing date ?

I have to say, the Obama video was par excellence ! More than ever, I am convinced I voted for the right guy to be the next President of the United States!

Indeed; I have to say the video was very nice....
It is a very good way to reach people... He is a master in communication, ready in this millennium. U have to give it to him.

It works well for the masses, but for the tiny few who can see through it, it shows how a master of disguise Barrack is.

ET, am happy that you are convinced...I am as well.

Yup Yup Yup.... We have to read the book by our other master...Am hoping I can have it for Christmas.

Kool-Aid????

Campaigns' foot soldiers hit battleground states

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-10-29-ground-game_N.htm#table

No mention of what they're drinking.

Rez....
I can offer you a plausible reason why the pollsters were so off in the NH primary..... we get so sick and tired of all the calls we make an intuitive deal with each other to start dickin' with their heads......

it's happening now...... because we are considered a "swing state"..... we're getting calls all hours of the day from pollsters..... it's been especially bad this week..... I've started answering the phone and telling them I'm voting for McCain and all other Republicans..... and I'm just one of many people I know who tell them the exact opposite of how they're really voting just to mess them up......

I can't stop the phone calls..... but I can have a bit of fun playing with their heads..... and who knows, if they continue to "get NH wrong"..... maybe they'll give up on us and stop calling my home 25 times a day......

Craig, you two have been working on it for quite a while. Any chance it will be ready for the holidays?

Or do you plan it for the week of the 20th?

"I can't stop the phone calls..... but I can have a bit of fun playing with their heads..... and who knows, if they continue to "get NH wrong"..... maybe they'll give up on us and stop calling my home 25 times a day......"

Good for you, Renee!

ROFL -- Renee! Good response.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hllDWSbuDsQ

along those lines

So, what's our free-gift-with-purchase from Obama's infomercial. Didn't watch it, but the clip-showing has only begun.

Still no idea why in the world Craig thinks the Clinton's need Obama.

As much as I don't think McFailin would be good for this country, it would be glorius to watch the MSM go into shock if the GOoPers manage to pull this one out...or just steal it, again. I might even watch KO just to watch him spontaneously combust.

Hil'ry '12!

ET,

Kool-Aid--from the Wiki:

"It is also now closely associated with the 1978 cult suicide in Jonestown, Guyana. Jim Jones, the leader of the Peoples Temple, convinced his followers to move to Jonestown. Late in the year, he then ordered his flock to commit suicide by drinking grape-flavored Flavor Aid laced with potassium cyanide. In what is now commonly called the "Jonestown Massacre," a large majority of the 913 people later found dead drank the brew. (The discrepancy between the idiom and the actual occurrence is likely due to Flavor Aid's relative obscurity, compared to the easily recognizable Kool-Aid.) The precise expression can be attested in usage at least as early as 1987[4]. One lasting legacy of the Jonestown tragedy is the saying, "Don't drink the Kool-Aid." This has come to mean, "Don’t trust any group you find to be a little on the kooky side," or "Whatever they tell you, don't believe it too strongly."

"Still no idea why in the world Craig thinks the Clinton's need Obama."

Sturg, I agree. They've moved on.

People say "the clintons" while usually neglecting to mention the 3rd Clinton, who is turning out quite nicely......

I have a lot on my mind this morning. Maybe it's because it was one of those nights at work where I wanted to break something. LOL! @ Blue!

Congrats to Philly fans everywhere!

Flatus..... I was rooting for your Rays.... I always root for the American League team unless "you know who" are playing..... (yes... the evil empire... called them damn Yankees).....

I thought the Rays played great against the Red Sox.... they seemed confident and relaxed..... hey they've played each other many, many times....

but the Rays lost their composure when they hit the big stage.... they made way too many errors..... and the Phillies were playing well and did deserve to win, IMO.....

but the Rays will be a team to reckon with in the AL east next year...... I look forward to the many battles between them and my beloved Red Sox.....

"neglecting to mention" is not exactly what I meant.....I meant people dont often include her in thinking about the clintons and their future....

Thanks, Renee. I agree with your take re composure. Baseball needs happy excitement. That, the Rays provided--in abundance--as did your Red Sox.

Sturg, my hat's off to the Clintons for the way they raised and nurtured, Chelsea taking unabashed advantage of their position to educate her. She's a remarkably nice child.

Chelsea '16

another thing that happens..... you pick up the phone..... laughing because you're all set to dick with the pollster's head..... and wham.... it's a stupid robocall.....

there's a woman running as a Republican to unseat our freshman Democratic Congressman, Paul Hodes..... we've been getting 2-3 robocalls from her each day this past week.....

the other day I had this fantasy daydream where I met her on the street and I put my hands around her neck and with complete calmness said...."don't be alarmed, this is just a robostrangling".....

wow.... I'm chatty this morning...... time to get back to work.... :0)

mornin' all.

Gordo (god I can't believe I'm starting with Gordo) you have lost all sense of who needs to prove what.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/great-comebacks-in-history.html#comment-165718

The only cover up is the one alleged by you and your failed champion of conspiracy theories. I'm not attacking Berg, I'm stating an opinion as a lawyer and as a guy who's been around the block more than once and can recognize a poor lawyer. Berg failed on a threshold question - standing - that ws easily predictable as an impediment to a successful suit (in the sense that it would proceed to the discovery phase). He failed to get anyone who could have bestowed standing on the suit to join in and keep the suit alive. If he had, the burden of proof is on the party asserting a claim. You (here, and Berg in E.D. Pa.) are asserting a claim and are attempting to shift the burden of proof, having none of your own. But that's in the context of a courtroom. This is presidential politics, and here's the deal - you doubt his citizenship. If enough voters doubt his citizenship and demand that he show a certified copy of his birth certificate to them before they will give him their vote, your man McCain will win. You're trying to push water uphill by trying to convince people here - we're much too small acommunity to matter in the context of this election. Tell it to someone else - who may care.

jamie, I'll have to see that movie - thanks for the recommendation.

I caught a few minutes of the Big Dog's intro for Obama las tnight. He's still got it.

Powers should come back. Back when I was a raging Hillary supporter (still am but don't tell Obama), I wasn't upset by the "Monster" remark. I think that it was one of those English words that got lost in translation while coming across the Atlantic.

"Monster" in the sense Powers used it was someone or something who is a formidable opponent not someone who is a horrid or misshapen person,

The press here turned it into an insult and then Hillary had to defend against the insult that wasn't, and then Powers had to be dumped for what was just an unjudicious use of a slang word.

The online dictionary for British slang actually describes itself as follows: "A monster online dictionary of the rich colourful language we call slang... all from a British perspective"

"monster" describes perfectly a 472 cu. in. engine......

In typical Liberal fashion they are wetting their pants over the Al Franken mailer, but were silent when the FLLL's suggested the down syndrome child of Sarah Palin was actually her daughters. Liberals are so thin skin when one of their own is publicly mocked.

http://tinyurl.com/unclealthekiddiespal

Renee, our incoming lines go through PBXs. The automated greeting 'discourages' solicitations and the like and then directs callers to the appropriate extensions.

I've only had one caller, from the SC Dem Party, proceed to dial in to me. She was very polite and sounded quite elderly. She asked me if I meant calls such as she was making. I said yes, but I did chat with her for a couple of minutes because she obviously didn't want to intrude or offend.

No Renee,
Please be chatty....I njoy it....

Flatus,
So are they putting the elderly in also :-)
LMPO.......

The Bush economy - going out with a whimper.

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/business/business-us-usa-economy.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

sturg, or a 427, stroked, bored & blown?

The numbers they keep a changing.

http://tinyurl.com/obamamath

Speaking of British dictionaries, the demise of the print edition of the OED is right around the corner. I'm toying with the idea of buying it while it's still available--only about $700 plus $50 shipping, if purchased through one of the Amazon alternative sellers.

I know Stinky would go absolutely berserk if I did buy it. So, I won't. But...

Subscribing to OED's online dictionary will be something like $300/year for personal use. Ridiculously high.

Pogo.......yep......not to mention a 454..........or the infamous 409 one of which in the hands of a friend left black rubber tracks across the complete length of the stono river bridge........

Anselm, I get a blank page from your link.

here's the guardian's take on last night's bc/o love-in. you're right, pogo, he's still the big dawg...to us and the rest of the world.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct/30/barack-obama-bill-clinton-florida

Well, at least if McFailin can't pull it out the GOoPers can all say that Obama "bought" the presidency.

corey -It's not nice to LOL@me. Please LOLw/me instead. ;0

anselm.....i get a blank page from all your comments.

lol

Ahhh, the 409 - I had a model of a 1964 Impala with a blown 409 in it - I loved that model. I always thought of the 409 as the first true monster engine. The Johnny come latelys - 427, 454, adn the what was it 501 version that was in the Cadillac, were impressive as well, but that 409... always loved the song, too.

Giddy up, giddy up, 409.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/obamas-cash-lead-produces-a-bi.html#comment-165928

Anselm,

Something that is discussed by the press and mentioned in main stream media is a great deal different than some passing commentary by some left leaning wacko on a website.

What was said about Palin's baby was bad. I brought it up here and asked Gordo if he was going to chase after that birth certificate because it was the same quality of rumor.

"...."don't be alarmed, this is just a robostrangling".....

HA! You're on a roll this morning, Renee!!!!

dog - No, it's not funny, but it could happen, McShame being the oldest "comeback kid" and all. I'm not jesting about the part about enjoying the fireworks show the MSM would put on in the aftermath of an Obama loss. In my voting history, the only person ever elected to prez'l office was named Clinton, so my vote for Obama last week may have jinxed him.

Quick, somebody burn some virtual sage & start chanting.

Damn. I have often wondered about the identity of the lamest person on the planet. It just might bre a guy named Kilgore who is on C-span parroting GOP talking points.....

Alright, any of you young punks wanna make fun of old guys this morning? Wanna joke about how they don't know what the hell they are doing? Well...do ya? This should put a stop to all of the jokes and the laughter.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081029/ap_on_fe_st/odd_pills_for_sex;_ylt=AmAe9LHOYFtWMOvrWSVKxphxFb8C

Shut Down -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KngNOdENYH4&feature=related

Pedals to the floor , hear his duel quads ring ......

"I wasn't upset by the "Monster" remark. I think that it was one of those English words that got lost in translation while coming across the Atlantic."

I agree, Jamie. That particular comment to me wwas just an offhanded remark by someone PO'd.

pat, in one part of the little bit I heard Bill was succinct and gave 3 results of voting for Obama (using the rule of 3s I learned from a college buddy who was on the Uof AL debate team) - to invest in health care so everyone can have it, to invest in our educational system so our kids can participat ei success, and to invest in alternative energy so that our country can thrive and prosper. I get to hear a lot of folks make arguments in my line of work, and I have to say it was as comeplling a delivery as I've heard.

sturge, pogo's 8:49 cried out for a risque bill bon mot from you and you let me down.

Flatus,

Get the two volume edition with the magnifying glass

Renee

"The Christian Science Monitor announced this week that it will become an online-only news source. "

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=96262857

I heard it on all things considered on NPR

Hey
The wife is home.
We've got some catching up to do. She is usually an early riser but she is sleeping in late, totally exhausted from 3 weeks of travel and 80hr weeks.
I hear her stirring so I've got more important things than hanging around here.

Later

Jack

Nickles and dimes ---- 409

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoqHPYIUtBM

As much as I don't think McFailin would be good for this country, it would be glorius to watch the MSM go into shock if the GOoPers manage to pull this one out...or just steal it, again. I might even watch KO just to watch him spontaneously combust.

Hil'ry '12!

Posted by: blueINdalla | October 30, 2008 7:52 AM

LOL
Blue, you know, I was thinking this for over a month now. never came around to writing it down on the blog. But my thoughts EXACTLY! I would die (not litterally) if that happens.... However, it won´t.....

And about HRC in 2012...I hope she gives this up. This was her year, it ended on a different note, she should pursue something else....

I find sexual inuendo to be an unacceptable form of humor......

I avoid using it and try to avoid hearing it......

lol

"the rule of 3s"

pogo, so true... and didn't sorenson usually abide by that rule for jfk's more memorable speeches?

Quick, somebody burn some virtual sage & start chanting.

Posted by: blueINdallas | October 30, 2008 9:00 AM

LOL LOL LMPO LMPO....

OK, I´m in the office but closing my door and beginning now.
Ohm Ohm Ohm Shantie! Namjerenge kyoh! Ohm Ohm Ohm

Sturg, more than you ever wanted to know...

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/chevy-409-cid-v-8-engine.htm

Somebody give me a cheeseburger ---------

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmBDIj2fbB8

pat, when you're talking about a big block Chevy, stroked, bored and blown doesn't need sexual innuendo - it's pure sex. I take it you were never deep into hot rods?

Lefty, Steve would be honored.

Pogo

"Gordo (god I can't believe I'm starting with Gordo) you have lost all sense of who needs to prove what."

Can we call you Ishmael?

Dog, the Republican party has a lot to answer for.

Gore's going to Fla. tomorrow.

"Jerry Kilgore is the fine gentleman Tim Kaine defeated to become governor. He has an identical twin, Terry (with a mustache, I think) who is also in state government."

The most bizarre thing about this guy is that he appeared to be simply reading from a teleprompter, although I'm sure he wasn't. VERY disconcerting.

Anon, if you must...;-)

"Jones has been extra courteous in traffic and at the gas station because he has an Obama sticker on the back of his truck. "

I'm almost certain that my driving cost John Kerry the vote in Williamson County, Tennessee.

I have to laugh....McCain is getting exactly what he deserves with his campaign finance reform.....

I did notice that the BO campaign put out 3 different numbers for the tax breaks/increases in the last 2 days. I heard 250,000, 200,000 and 150,000. Did anyone hear the same thing?

"(PS: the Kilgores are very nice people; just very ideological.)"

Well, given the new Democratic party, he's only a nice but ideological guy as long as he's no real opponent. Then he's going to be turned into a child molesting, snake worshipping monster who must be destroyed, along with his entire family.

The (economic) soft bigotry of low expectations.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/business/AP-Wall-Street.html

Northern Exposure -

There was undisguised hostility toward the federal government and the FBI at the Stevens event, with people wearing T-shirts that said "F*#@ the feds, vote for Ted."

"Anyone who thinks you can get a fair trial in the heart of liberalism, Washington, D.C., is smoking dope. He was railroaded," said Mark Kelliher, a retired engineer.

http://www.adn.com/ted-stevens/story/572441.html

Jack...... oh no..... say it ain't so....
now we'll have to buy a laptop to put on our table..... or we could do what Rick just suggested..... get a subscription to USA Today..... now there's a thought that'll make one want to hurl....

Patsi..... I bet it's the infamous Mr. Kilgore Trout.....

For all you cheapskates who didn't contribute the max to Obama...turns out his aunt in the project scraped together a couple of hundred bucks...

"The Times of London has turned up Obama's aunt—in a Boston housing project. Actually, Zeituni Onyango, 56, is Obama's half-aunt, but she is described affectionately in Obama's Dreams from My Father. The Times says she "is a frail woman who walks with the aid of a metal stick" and for a time mentored children. She has managed to contribute $260 to her nephew's presidential campaign and tells the paper: "I can't talk about it, I just pray for him, that's all. After the 4th, I can talk to anyone."

pogo ------------------

Still talking about Berg and standing because you are unable to defend the SoetorObama cover-up. You have to divert attention from the reason SoetorObama is doing this -- his "hidden" past. Does all the "spinning" make you dizzy?
============================
Can you respond to this without going into Obot mode?
----------------
OBAMA MUST STAND UP NOW OR STEP DOWN

"America is facing potentially the gravest constitutional crisis in her history.

... prove, with conclusive documentary evidence, that he is “a natural born Citizen” of the United States who has not renounced his American citizenship ...

Why will Obama not dispel the doubts about his eligibility—unless he can not?

... the burden of proof rests squarely on his shoulders."

(much more at link)

http://www.newswithviews.com/Vieira/edwin84.htm

Pogo...
I one time had a Grand Torino with a 460 engine...... I've forgotten the model year.....

Rick and I were poor while he was a librarian..... I bought it used and when I asked about it's cheap price, was told it sucked a lot of gas.....

I'm not into cars...... but whenever I mentioned it being a 460 to any male..... their eyes would bug out and they'd automatically emit a whistle.....

I hated the thing and sold it only a few months later...... it cried "FEED ME, FEED ME!" every time I drove past a gas station.....

Anon, it really is fairly ironic that you refer to me in my ongoing back and forth with Gordo as Ishmael. Moby Dick is one of my 2 or 3 favorite books (and I really have read the whole thing several times). I used to be a sailor of sorts (though not a whaler) and when I taught sailing for Outward Bound, I would almost invariably read the first paragraph to my students ot some point of the course not to cast myself as Ishmael, but rather to read to them what I thought was one of the best examples from literature of the connection between mankind and the ocean.

"Call me Ishmael. Some years ago -- never mind how long precisely -- having little or no money in my purse, and nothing particular to interest me on shore, I thought I would sail about a little and see the watery part of the world. It is a way I have of driving off the spleen, and regulating the circulation. Whenever I find myself growing grim about the mouth; whenever it is a damp, drizzly November in my soul; whenever I find myself involuntarily pausing before coffin warehouses, and bringing up the rear of every funeral I meet; and especially whenever my hypos get such an upper hand of me, that it requires a strong moral principle to prevent me from deliberately stepping into the street, and methodically knocking people's hats off -- then, I account it high time to get to sea as soon as I can. This is my substitute for pistol and ball. With a philosophical flourish Cato throws himself upon his sword; I quietly take to the ship. There is nothing surprising in this. If they but knew it, almost all men in their degree, some time or other, cherish very nearly the same feelings towards the ocean with me."

So lessee, if I'm Ishmael, that makes Gordo Ahab and Obama the whale. Yeah, that sounds about right.

"I take it you were never deep into hot rods?"

pogo, depends on what the meaning of "deep into" is.

C-SPAN just ended with another of the "You - Get out of the gene pool" callers.

"Is Obama going to be sworn into office on the Koran or a Bible?"

Nothing like waiting on line for an hour to make a complete ass of yourself.

Pogo -
Yes, and the the part of the movie as they're setting sail from port. Houston painted the perfect picture of New Bedford in 1840.

"Around the world !!! "

Ah, yes Renee - the 460 - Ford's player in the big block, high output tire burners. And it outlived the Chevy by 20 years thanks to police version Crown Vics.

http://www.catalogs.com/info/automotive/ford-460-history.html

Yours was no doubt like the 383 Plymouth - Belvedere - and 400 Pontiac - Grand Prix - engines I had - you couldn't drive PAST a gas station. (I traded the Plymouth for a Fiat 850 that got 30+ mpg in 1970, and the Pontiac for a VW Beetle that got 27 mpg in '74)

Starsky and Hutch loved their Gran Torino 460.

pat, I ain't talking about being in the back seat with the windows fogged. I'm talking obsession.

GORDO -
This whale's for you -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7dSTdHziMs

"Nothing like waiting on line for an hour to make a complete ass of yourself."

Jamie -- I missed the last of Washington Journal....sounds like it was good that I did.

Pogo _
This Welles for you :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQonowKNo0s&feature=related

Anon - thx, but I can't open youtube links here. I'll check it from home tonight.

Good morning all, I see you two are back at it Gordo and Pogo. Did you know that Berg is speaking on the steps of the Supreme Court today?

Pogo....
I LOVE Melville!.... Moby Dick is definitely one of my top 2-3 books also....
and we own quite a few copies of it...... whenever either one of us has run into an old hard cover copy of the book in a used bookstore, we've snatched it up.....

don't see as many used bookstores as we used to...... New England used to be littered with them..... we think ebay, Amazon, and a few other online places are getting many of the books we used to find in those old musty but cherished places.... it really is a shame....

Haul Away Joe-Makem & Clancy w/ Schooner Fare

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjeFNdSf9HI

I saw a repeat of the end of this interview between Shepard Smith and Joe the Plumber and almost pissed myself I was laughing so hard.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/28/foxs-shepard-smith-forced_n_138674.html

JTP - avatar of the McCain camp - strong opinions about things he's almost completely uninformed about - and doesn't even know what his candidate's position on the issue is while he's on his "Maybe I'm A Foreign Policy Expert, But Anyway, You Should Go Out And Get Your Own Opinions On Things Instead Of Listening To Mine, Even Though I'm Going To Keep Opining If You Give Me Half A Chance, And Anyway, I Don't Even Really Know What John McCain's Position Is On Anything Anyway, And Probably I Should Be Snaking A Sink Trap Or Something, Instead Of Dragging Myself All Over The Country Making Statements Which I Then Sort Of Disavow A Few Minutes Later Anyway, Who Knows?" Tour of 2008!"

And then I met an Irish girl, she damn near drove crazy .....

Way haul away we'll haul away Joe.

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OSH - I'm done with Gordo and his SO rap. Of course Berg's on the steps of the SCOTUS - you don't think they''d let him in the building do you? Be interesting to see who's there to hear him other than the school kids standing in line to see their 3 minutes of whatever argument is taking place when they fle into the gallery.

McCain has lost Joe the Plumber !

Anon- love the Clancy brothers. We'll be cranking them up and hoisting our Guinness tomorrow night!

Pogo- you're right, it will be interesting to see who and if anybody shows.

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Gordo, meet So Long, Democrats; So Long, Democrats, meet Gordo.

Now, give each other a big hug & kiss, and then, if your religions don't forbid it, kill yourselves.

The rest of us will chip in for the funeral.