Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

More cowbell

Speaking of agendas can someone explain this to me ?

"Where does a lot of that earmark money end up, anyway? [...] You've heard about, um, these -- some of these pet projects they really don't make a whole lot of sense, and sometimes these dollars they go to projects having little or nothing to do with the public good. Things like fruit fly research in Paris, France. I kid you not!"

Sarha Palin her October 24th speech on special-needs children

Not that anyone on this site would do something so ridiculous, but for the guy with the Palin H'ween "decoration" on his house

a) shame on you

b) you're not helping/promoting "the unity" candidate

What is wrong with people?

I'll give you this, Anselm. I think women were blindsided by the viciousness of the attacks.

Mean while back at the EPA & the Interior Dept.

With time short, Bush pushes EPA to relax power-plant rule

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/54841.html

Green light for changes to endangered list
Interior Department assessment finds no big negatives; activists angry

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27407328/

Republicans have a death wish. Democrats could have saved a lot of campaign money if they had known the Republicans were going to be "the stupid" this year.

"The Republican: Arguably, Kirk Schuring’s strongest weapon is the endorsement of retiring Rep. Ralph Regula, the second-longest-serving Republican member of the House. The 83-year-old’s endorsement has a lot of clout in this district. Schuring, a state senator, narrowly won the GOP primary. Since then, a series of financial questions have eroded his favorability ratings. He raised $130,000 for an exploratory committee when considering replacing Regula, well over the FEC’s $5,000 limit, and had $5,000 in tax liens. Schuring also alienated his political base in Canton, Ohio, when he joked at a rally that if he held an event in Canton, he might get shot at."

I am so happy -- a Democrat will be representing this District.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/10/27/down-the-homestretch-ohios-16th-district-open-seat/

Way to go , George, forget everything you've heard or read (OK, heard) about climate change - go brown. Moron.

http://video.nytimes.com/video/2008/10/27/opinion/1194828794024/conversations-on-broadway.html?8ty&emc=ty

Fun video done by The Times a few blocks from my place.

If Ak's had their way, "Uncle Ted" would be our Senator forever. As I posted before, I was talking to a friend from the Phillipines , and she told me how much the poorer peoples LOVED the Marco's. Because even though the Marcos were stealing the country blind, they gave geniously to charities, and built several "free schools" and hospitals for the poor. You ask most people up here about Ted Stevens, and the first thing that will come out of their mouths is "But he's done so much for this state."

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/measuring-the-democratic-wave.html#comment-165081

Bridge to nowhere, perhaps?

If stupidity was gold, Palin would never have to shop that consignment store again.

Western PA District 3
Polls taken of voters in the district show English falling further and further behind in a race that just two months ago was viewed as a relatively easy win for the Republican.

Republicans say the reason Democrats will win these two seats and others is backlash from voters angry at what President Bush has done during his administration.

These two races are snapshots of what’s happening nationwide. Longtime Republican districts and members of Congress are no longer safe.

U.S. Rep. Tim Ryan of Niles, D-17th, who’s campaigned for Boccieri and Dahlkemper, expects 20 to 25 Republican seats in the U.S. House to go Democratic in the Nov. 4 election.

It looks like maybe Ryan is being a little conservative with that projection.
http://www.vindy.com/news/2008/oct/24/republicans-bracing-for-political-thrashing/

Now what was it Brian Williams said about the Democrats being Whigs...

rosie, he certainly did. He's Ak's Bob Byrd. Of course Bob wasn't so stupid.

I think he was feeling a little bullet-proof.

Well, so much for good economic news.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/29/business/economy/29econ.html?hp

Consumer confidence at record low level.

"With time short, Bush pushes EPA to relax power-plant rule"

God only knows what back room deals will be made between Novembet and January.

CQ makes headlines in Ohio
CQ Politics re-rates the race for Ohio's 16th
By David DeWitt, PolitickerOH.com Reporter

Congressional Quarterly Politics has re-rated the race for Ohio's 16th Congressional District from "No Clear Favorite" to "Leans Democratic."

http://www.politickeroh.com/daviddewitt/cq-politics-re-rates-race-ohios-16th

A new round of NBC/Mason-Dixon polls shows Obama leading by 11 points in New Hampshire (50%-39%), Obama and McCain tied in North Carolina (47%-47%), and McCain only up four in Montana (48%-44%).

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/10/28/1600325.aspx

I don't know why everyone is so surprised about Montana, he's running around 5 in his home state for god's sake.

Shrub should walk away November 5th (taking Dick with him) and not do anything else. He is the opposite of Midas

Pogo,
Consumer confidence at an all time low.....That is by far the best indicator I have that this is the time to buy into the market...... Smart money always acts against the herd.

KGC,
Are you kiddin me...the current congress needs him to shield them in case they have to make some more bonehead crisis recovery moves.....:)

Jax-Ubi-soft and Ubi-soft/Montreal. Some of the hottest and best video games are coming from them.

Video games are a great play....no doubt....very recession proof....

"God only knows what back room deals will be made between Novembet and January."

Patsi..... Diane Rehm's second hour was about that topic.....

it was stated that Clinton made many regulatory changes during his last days in office..... but many of them had been in the pipe works for months and were reviewed by experts beforehand.....

OTOH.... Bush is pushing forth new regulations over night before experts have a chance to discuss them.....

it should be noted that Bush wanted to get rid of many of Clinton's last changes, but was successful at overturning only 3% of them.....
god only knows what havoc the Bush/Cheney cabal will wreak in these last months.....

Mid-range resturants also. TGIFridays, Chili's , Outback Steakhouse. As a longtime waitress, I can tell you these places are very recession proof, too.
When the economy is soft, people who would normally go to Sulllivans or Simon and Seaforts go to Outback or Lone Star. When it's all good, people who would normally go to Denny's, go to Applebee's instead.

Renee -- Yes, these next few months will be treacherous. I just pray that the new administration digs deep to find the executive order type changes that have been quietly going on for the past eight years. AND that the new president is willing to put a stop to the executive power grab already in place.

@patsi-especially that tricky one about whether VP is executive or legislative or both according to whose ass it covers.

jax, probably good advice.

rosie, VP is executive - Legislative role is ceremonial except in case of a tie.

Jax

If the Democratic wave (flash flood) happens, this Congress is done. The Democrats will wait until the next session to do anything. Shrub should pack up and start practicing German or Spanish -whatever they speak where he is going.

Whatever policy decisions need to be made in the next two months, Nancy P can do it.

If Obama just goes back to 2000 in terms of the constitution etc, - his administration will still be a success.

But wasn't that part of Cheney's argument during the, I think it was the Libby thing, that he didn't have to turn over papers 'cos he was also part of the legislative? I thought he used that to stonewall on something like that.

He made the argument, it was rejected. The executive privilege exception was applied.

KGC,
I'm just trying to point out that during this latest crisis the congressional leadership and Bush have been in lock-step. You watch.....when people really start to analyze this knee jerk gov't response they are going to realize that we were all taken.....then everyone will point to Bush and completely forget how complicit this current congress was....just wait....it won't take long

"Shrub should walk away November 5th (taking Dick with him) and not do anything else."

kgc, how about right now, this very minute?

p & vp, just quietly slip out the back door, no questions asked. you can even keep the swiss bank acct.

Jax

No argument here. Only Congress has a lower approval rating -except - no one blames their own rep -it's always the other guy. I thought Congress did not do its job during the recent crisis. Only Henry Waxman has been seriously pursuing discussions of the causes (and government's role) of the economic crisis. Congress AGAIN allowed Shrub -the worst president ever- to stampede them into an action that benefited a few. I have no respect for Congress except for a few. I thought Senator Shelby was good. The House republicans may have had some good points, but on balance whatever they did was for political advantage -the House Republicans are the worst. I hope they all lose.

Patd,
It's nice to think that we could put it all behind us. Do you think that this new kinder and gentler congress will allow that......I don't think so.....I think it will drag on....hearings....subpeonas.....they'll do no more real business than they did before.....

p & vp, just quietly slip out the back door, no questions asked. you can even keep the swiss bank acct.

Posted by: patd | October 28, 2008 2:26 PM

We should send notes to the Whitehouse telling Shrub -it's ok to leave early - no one will mind.

KGC,
Well maybe they were but I can say that during this last
crisis the blue dogs and some repubs were the only voice of reason. Regardless of the motives it was the right thing to do. I just wish that they hadn't caved in.....

While we all were waiting for then next poll -

The Earth is in the midst of the sixth mass extinction of both plants and animals, with nearly 50 percent of all species disappearing, scientists say.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/10/081020171454.htm

I know i've been doing my best to wipe out this damn species of ants at my warehouse....where are those damn scientists when i need them...

Regardless of the outcome of the pres. election, the Congress should consider only those bills backed by Bushco that it deems vital to national security (including the economy), and to the extent that they take the country down a road contrary to that set out by Obama, the bills should never make it to the floor.

btw, we had our first snow of the season today - didn't stick of course, but an annoyance nonetheless. Plus, we're gonna freeze our keisters off at LP's soccer game tonight.

jax, yep, all the good bug killers have been banned.

pogo ------------------------

".. show me one example of a forged BC successfully submitted to obtain a passport."

If the forged BC was successfully submitted, it would not be known that the BC was forged.

The "best" crime is the crime that goes undetected.

"that he didn't have to turn over papers 'cos he was also part of the legislative? I thought he used that to stonewall on something like that."

I thought the same thing, Rosie...

Pogo -- are we sure Cheney hasn't pulled a lot more power than it appears at first glance?

"We should send notes to the Whitehouse telling Shrub -it's ok to leave early - no one will mind."

ROFL! Excellent idea, KGC.

"The "best" crime is the crime that goes undetected."

Dick Cheney

"The "best" crime is the crime that goes undetected."

Gordo -- I have a great project for you. Investigate McCain's possible 1964 car accident.

You know things are bad when this is the best endorsement McCain can trot out for the press to meet...

McCain gains backing of Joe the Plumber

By PHILIP ELLIOTT, Associated Press Writer – 3 mins ago

COLUMBUS, Ohio – "Joe the Plumber endorsed Republican John McCain for president on Tuesday and agreed that a vote for Democratic candidate Barack Obama would be "a vote for the death of Israel.".....

"...Fame brought media scrutiny to Wurzelbacher, who turned out to be an unlicensed plumber with unpaid back taxes."

Poor John....

Look at the bright side. Once this election is over, Gordo can go back to mowing the grassy knoll for clues.

Patsi -- I have a great project for you. Investigate SoetorObama's 1981 trip to Pakistan.

Sad!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fzDq1XiBpQ

Cheney has done a remarkable job of stonewalling the investigations - including "losing" about a year's worth of e-mails - and let me tell you, that's hard to do these days. But it is my recollection that the legislative privilege claim was rejected.

Ah, the perfect crime, at last. Gordo, your rantings have become a joke. Now who's making excuses? Lack of evidence proves that the crime either was not committed or that if the crime was committed the evidence of the crime has eluded detection. Either way, your argument boils down to the innuendo and nothing else that it has always been. Let's try again - show me one instance where a forged or altered birth certificate was used to obtain a passport, then was discovered to have been improperly used (hint, you probably can't - INS doesn't keep the BC). Look, you don't seem to understand that I'm not saying what did or didn't happen - I'm saying that you don't have any evidence that what you're saying happened actually happened.

Jamie / Pogo

I think we need more cowbell

I know one thing for sure, these last eight years have made Chris Matthews very....sensitive about the roll of the VP.

McCain down to 1 in Georgia

InsiderAdvantage/Poll Position Georgia
Sample: 637 registered likely voters
Margin of Error: +/- 3.8%
Conducted Oct 27
President:
McCain: 48%
Obama: 47%
Barr: 1%
Other: 1%

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/RCP_PDF/IA_Georgia_102808.pdf
Undecided: 3%.

TMP has a great chart of where things stand compared to 2000 and 2004.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/_rcp_2004result_2004rcp_now.php

Gordo-I'm sure you could find out ton's of shady stuff about Cheney. Do him for a while. You are good at digging stuff up and I wouldn't even know where to begin looking for most of it.

One would think that Cindy McKinney would be running stronger in her home state of Georgia.

And the vote for the "hottest" Senatorial candidate goes to Scott Kleeb. WOW. Hell, I'd vote for him even if he was a Repug.... Excuse me while I take my pulse.

http://www.theseminal.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/kleeb1.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/27297066@N05/2851487631/

yeah she's been out polled by the likes of Bob Barr, that's gotta sting.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/measuring-the-democratic-wave.html#comment-165131

Jamie, I think GORDO will continue his life's ambition of trying to present Barack Obama as the ultimate Manchurian Candidate and push the idea of having him arrested as a secret CYLON agent sent here to infiltrate Planet Earth... The tin foil antennae must come in handy!

yeah but Cynthia McKinney was a controversial politician even in her own Congressional District which is quite liberal. I am not at all surprised to see her doing poorly in Georgia, though I would be curious to know how she is doing in her former Congressional district.

ET-What about Rom Emmanuel? He has those bedroom eyes. "sigh"

Yes, Patsi, you've been invited on a voyage of discovery - to try and discover what Gordo already claims to know. And without even the courtesy of providing a convenient link. You might start your journey at Larry Johnson's NoQuarter site - it may be the epicenter of the SoetorObama universe. Have a nice trip.

The Fix by Chris Cillizza

Should Republicans Cut Bait?

With each passing day the political outlook seems to worsen for Republicans.

Barack Obama appears to be consolidating his electoral college edge over John McCain while Republicans are playing defense in the Senate and the House. Neutral observers are now predicting Republican losses of eight or more seats in the Senate and 20-plus seats in the House.

Faced with such a dire landscape, David Frum, a former speechwriter for President Bush and now a resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, penned an op-ed in the Post's Outlook section on Sunday that made the case that the party must throw McCain over the side to save itself.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/10/should_republicans_cut_bait.html?hpid=topnews

The suggestion by Frum is basically "if you're winning, you're a good Republican> If you aren't, we'll toss you under the bus"... It's too bad that there is that little loyalty shown to the current party leader.

Polls show Obama making big gains with Jewish voters

http://www.cjnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=15611&Itemid=86

October 28, 2008
McCain Support Continues Downward Spiral
Obama Leads by 19 Among Those Who Have Already Voted

http://people-press.org/report/465/mccain-support-declines

Be afraid, be very afraid!

rosie, Emmanuel is a cool guy... but Scott... someone help me register quick in Nevada... :-)

Liberal Dems Top Conservative Reps in Donations, Activism
More Than a Quarter of Voters Read Political Blogs

http://people-press.org/report/464/campaign-engagement

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/measuring-the-democratic-wave.html#comment-165147

I'd rather do an LSD trip that the treacherous route you are suggesting POGO.... and no I don't do drugs...

The VP is the President of the Senate, i.e., the presiding officer. The title implies that the incumbent can preside over sessions when that individual wishes. Implicit in presiding is recognizing speakers and applying rules as to when a member is out-of-order. That implies a more meaningful role than a mandatory presence when the electoral votes are being opened and when a tie-breaker is needed.

The vice president is not allowed to preside when the president is being tried. Quite logical as the presidency devolves to the vice president. That would most certainly result in a conflict of interest.

I can understand why a president would not want the VP as part of the legislature--something about keeping one's enemies close at hand. Perhaps that's one of the reasons why the VP's senatorial presence is not often imposed.

And, it's clear from the separation of powers imposed by the Constitution that the vice president can not be an active member of both the executive branch and the legislature. So, to my reading, if a vice president should insist on strong prerogatives as the Senate's presiding officer, the individual would forfeit any day-to-day role in the executive branch.

My thoughts are guided by Article I, Section 3, and Article II, Section 1:
http://www.constitution.org/constit_.htm

*UCK MLB
IMPEACH SELIG

Palin to Release Medical Information Early This Week

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/10/palin-to-releas.html

?@champ

pogo -----------

"... I'm saying that you don't have any evidence that what you're saying happened actually happened."

The evidence is that SoetorObama refuses to show the American people the SAME BC that he used to obtain a passport. A hardcopy BC would be closely examined. The TRUTH would be revealed.

Why go into Federal court to fight a request to see a certified hardcopy BC? Because he dare not show the TRUTH. It's all about his "hidden" past.

"So, to my reading, if a vice president should insist on strong prerogatives as the Senate's presiding officer, the individual would forfeit any day-to-day role in the executive branch."

Accept the VP doesn't have the legal foundation to insist on anything.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/measuring-the-democratic-wave.html#comment-165143

I'm not much for Battlestar Galactica, can I call David Tennant and the blue police box instead? If he is unavailable how about Capt. Jack and Torchwood?

God I wish I could be the one to tell Tucker Bounds when the networks start calling the election for Obama next Tuesday night.

ET

Speaking of Barrowman, have you seen his new video "What About Us?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBe22HYEbe0

Nevada + 10, looks like the undecides are starting to move.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/docs/Suffolk_Nevada_102808.htm

Bud Selig, the "commissioner" of Major League Baseball. He and Fox (Newscorp) have officially ruined baseball. Again.

Patsi and other female,

When Hillary was treated with such ill regard by her own party during the primary, we Republicans knew what was in store for Sarah Palin. If you were going to eat your own alive, what treatment would befall the enemy? I found this story in the Philadelphia Inquirer written by a feminist that goes to my very point of females losing the battle of respect. When you sit idly by and accept abuse of one of your own, just because you view her as 'one of them', then don't complain when you become the target of such abuse.

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/currents/33319499.html

Night three did it with the half-hour delay followed by incredibly bad field conditions and lousy umpiring. Supposedly TV viewership was the lowest in World Series history.

Rain cancels local McCain-Palin rally, Obama event goes on

http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20081028_McCain__Obama__and_Palin_in_Pa__today.html

I guess the rain causes Grandpa's rheumatism to flair up.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/measuring-the-democratic-wave.html#comment-165153

Tom, good decision.

Gordo, because he was sued there - he didn't go to federal court to fight anything, he wasa dragged there. You are a legal naif. Failure to produce what YOU think is damning is not proof of ANYONE'S guilt (using criminal terms, but you get the drift). Consider this for one moment - there are 2 individuals (actually there were about 15 or even more at one time) whose standing probably would have passed muster in Berg's suit and who would, if the suit were successful, stand to benefit directly if Berg's allegations were true. Many of them are lawyers. Why do you suppose none of them joined in that suit? Surely if there were any potential merit to the suit, at least ONE of them would have taken a shot.

patsi, you should take gordo up on his invite to '81 pakistan visit. the articles in the pakistani/arab news that google found were pretty fascinating reading with or without an interest in bho.
only trouble is the feeling that somebody/ies out there lurking over your shoulder while perusing those links. and who knows how many cookies my computer consumed on the trip.
'course if you just wait awhile there'll be a book or two released sometime around inauguration... money to be made by long lost friends and relatives coming out of the woodwork. to say nothing of the inevitable malcontent or spurned sycophant from the campaign seeking venegence. ahh, the human condition.

That's OK, Flatus. Selig has taught a young but dwindling generation of baseball fans that the game is rigged, it's money that's important, and rules can be manipulated on a whim. It's a valuable lesson. Thanks, Bud!

Flatus,
I'm not saying that I don't agree that the VP should focus on one or the other but I'm reading the sections that you reference and I don't see any limitations on the VP other than his non-vote in the senate except for a tie. Are we reading the same constitution?

flatus & champ - on Mike & Mike this morning they were discussing Selig's decision last night. Apparently he had looked at the weather, discussed the situation with both clubs, decided to try and get the game in with the understanding that it would not be awarded through a rain shortened outcome, and both clubs were on board.

Anselm,

Hillary's problem was that too many people remembered that her husband, though a great president, cost them a Gore victory, because of his exploits which brought out the moralistic Freakus de Jesus in great numbers. He also gave W the dumbfuck the platform to run as the one to "restore dignity to the White House"

Throw in that people didn't like HRC, called her a lesbian and all the other slurs during her time as first lady and she already had high negatives.

Once it became clear during this campaign season that she took victory for granted and started out very slowly, the activist base, who were still pissed she wouldn't admit error with her Iraq war vote, were ready to get behind whatever viable option there was that wasn't HRC.

I am still shocked that she didn't learn anything from Lieberman in 2006.

As for Palin, you should realize that if the party's elitist base couldn't get behind a qualified but flawed candidate in HRC, there was no way on earth they could get behind a DFR in Palin...

McCain's possible 1964 car accident.

How can you have a possible definitive anything? Either it happened or it didn't happen.

Apparently you aren't familiar with Selig's documented tendency to lie, pogo. I stopped watching baseball because of dumb ____ like this: I should have known better.

Jax,

I should have added the subsequent sections of Article I, the ones that delineate congressional responsibilities. Those duties and the executive branch duties in Article II are mutually exclusive. So, a member of one is Constitutionally unable to perform the duties of the other.

Bear,

Apparently you didn't read the article. It has to do with the rise in disrespect directed towards women. Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton are just examples of that disrespect.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/measuring-the-democratic-wave.html#comment-165162

Nice video Jamie... I want to buy Torchwood on DVD, but money's tight. Eventually though..

Champ,

Remember Selig sold used cars...that's how he made his money to buy the Brewers.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/measuring-the-democratic-wave.html#comment-165173

Bear, I disagree with why Gore lost the election. I think he had a piss poor campaign manager who pushed him to keep Clinton out of the campaign. Bill Clinton was still very much popular as witnessed by the large number of the public who felt he was the victim of a witch hunt..

You are correct that I didn't read it...I was just offering my 2 cents..which if invested in the NYSE January 1 would be worth 1.2 cents now...lol

I'm very familiar with Selig, bear. It's all about him, all the time. He was channeling the arrogant spirit of GWB at the press conference last night.

Sarah Palin disrespects gays and women as far as I am concerned. How can you Anselm, a self-identifed Gay man, support this anti-feminist woman who wants to constitutionally deny Gays the right to marry? You would sell out your own individual rights for the support of your party? That's scary.

Euro,

Valid point...I think she was scared to energize evangelicals to vote against Gore, which they did anyway because W. sent a shiver up their stigmata laden legs...

Personally, as a female, I hate this talk of "sexism" and "disrespect for women" It's BS. The only times I was dissapointed in Hillery was the few times she tried to play victim. Women can take it and should take like, dare I say, like the men do. It only makes us look weak if we complain about being picked on every time we get out feelings hurt or things don't go out way. I'm happy to say that the women on this blog are strong non-whiners, and that the men respect us enough to not hold back.

Anyway, I am just hoping that this election turns out the way that the pundits and the polls suggest, and I TRULY hope that the DEMS get at least a 60 seat Senate majority. Since the Dems will probably lose seats in 2010, I would like to see the new administration, assuming that it WILL be Democratic, to work with Congress to get as much work done in the first year, year and a half before their numbers weaken. If they take decision action that turns around the economy and improves our standing on the world stage, it could even mean Dems could retain or even gain some Senate seats in 2010, though I do think that is a tall order.

"When you sit idly by and accept abuse of one of your own, just because you view her as 'one of them', then don't complain when you become the target of such abuse."

Don't be stupid, Anselm. We didn't sit idly by. I not only protested Hillary's treatment, but Sarah Palin's as well. Furthermore, don't try to drag feminism into your agenda. We've already had men try to beat us in line with Roe v Wade. So you're in over your head.

Where were you when Larry Craig got dragged through the mud?

Flatus,
The VP holds a unique position and I believe that he can participate in both branches. If they didn't intend that then they wouldn't have made the position of President of the Senate. They clearly had more in mind than simply tie breaker. This is evidenced by the fact that there is Senate President pro-tempore. They clearly expect the VP to preside over the senate proceedings. As far as exectuive privilege goes it should apply only to the executive branch discussions.

Larry Craig isn't gay, Patsi. He said so himself.

"only trouble is the feeling that somebody/ies out there lurking over your shoulder while perusing those links. and who knows how many cookies my computer consumed on the trip."

patd -- I've already warned my son in DC that my name may come across his desk at some point. He just laughed and said he'd already warned his colleagues about his mother.

Good one rosie... I have to say I think Hillary was very strong... and I have no doubt at all that the tears in NH were anything but genuine... And it was only a second of losing her self-disciplined self-control.

Although the primary is past and I am FULLY for Barack Obama, I still love this video because it calls out the sexism that was prevalent in the primaries. Not to say that the Clinton campaign didn't make major blunders, but that the MSM certainly were much more critical of her than Obama during this period....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcdnlNZg2iM

Obama/Biden 2008

OFF TO BED... my job just wears me out !!!

Actually, Gore DID win.

"The VP holds a unique position and I believe that he can participate in both branches. If they didn't intend that then they wouldn't have made the position of President of the Senate"

WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/measuring-the-democratic-wave.html#comment-165169

Is Pakistan a nice place to visit this time of the year? :D

pogo ----------------

Pakistan Trip
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Obama's College Trip to Pakistan

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/04/obamas-college.html

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"... because he was sued there - he didn't go to federal court to fight anything, he wasa dragged there."

Exactly my point. SoetorObama will not show a certified hardcopy BC to the American people. So what to do? Just accept his word and some altered COLB images on three sites?

You are not the slightest bit suspicious? You believe everything SoetorObama says?

If he has nothing to hide, then what is he hiding?

"Sarah Palin disrespects gays and women as far as I am concerned."

I'd be interested in exactly what policies she put in place in Alaska that reflect her personal views.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/measuring-the-democratic-wave.html#comment-165133

Jeez, now am I ever glad I never bought that Victoria Jackson makeup kit !

None, yet, but remember, she hasn't been gov. very long.

"The only times I was dissapointed in Hillery was the few times she tried to play victim. Women can take it and should take like, dare I say, like the men do. It only makes us look weak if we complain about being picked on every time we get out feelings hurt or things don't go out way. I'm happy to say that the women on this blog are strong non-whiners, and that the men respect us enough to not hold back."

I won't even touch that belief. But does it go for gays and blacks when referred to in racists or homophobic terms?

Sarah Palin, the Republican vice presidential nominee, says in an interview with the Christian Broadcasting Network airing today that she supports a federal constitutional ban against gay marriage - which Sen. John McCain, the GOP's presidential nominee, does not support.

Palin, who had voted in 1998 for a state amendment banning same sex marriage, says: "I have voted along with the vast majority of Alaskans who had the opportunity to vote to amend our Constitution defining marriage as between one man and one woman. I wish on a federal level that's where we would go. I don't support gay marriage,"

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/10/sarah_palin_gaymarriage_federa.html

Patsi you have heard of google yes?

Impeach Earl Warren

So what exactly made it sexist?

Brian -- I was asking if she signed anything into law. You do know your idol Barack opposes gay marriage.....

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/measuring-the-democratic-wave.html#comment-165204

Your opinion differed from the great arbitrator of all that is sexist.

Treating someone differently because they are black, is racists, treating someone differenly because they are gay is homophobic, but treating someone the same because they are female is sexist? I don't understand.

you're parsing words again, he does not support a federal ban on same sex marriage. Your defense of Palin on the matter shows yet once more just how myopic and truly sexist you are in all matters.

champ, the comments were reported by the Mikes to have come from both the clubs and Selig. I just stated what I heard. I couldn't care less - baseball is my least favorite major spectator sport.

flatus, interesting conversation about the Art. I and Art. II powers and limitations. Dim though it is, my recollection is that there is a judicially recognized division of the FUNCTIONS of the legislature and the executive, and one branch cannot delegate its constitutionally prescribed functions to the other branch (or to the judiciary). I don't think the issue of whether an individual (aside from the VP acting in his capacity as Pres. of the Senate) can occupy positions in both branches of government simultaneously has ever been addressed. It is an interesting question to ponder. And the scope of the VP's power as president of the senate is similarly vague - beyond presiding over the senate and voting in the case of a tie, I believe it is limited by senate rules, and could presumably be expanded, but it could not include giving the VP the power to vote beyond what the Constitution provides. Inteesting.

ET,

What laws as governor or as a city mayor has she passed where she has disrespected gays or women? Same sex marriages is banned in 47 states, Alaska is just one of them. That is not disrespecting gays. If that was the case you Democrats better start have a lot of governor seats that need cleaning house. I don't believe in same sex marriages as do a number of gays, and as do most Americans. Civil unions a resounding yes, marriages no. In fact if you actually took the time to review Palin's record you wouldn't be making such foolish statements. So what you are really suggesting it is OK to disrespect someone just because they have a different viewpoint that the one you hold? Is this ideology all coming from the tolerant, fair and open mindedness found in the Netherlands you keep preaching to us about? Beliefs such as those were fathered in Germany prior to WWII.

And Patsi you're turning your back on your own words from yesterday when you claimed you disagree with Palin on the issues but resent when she is attacked on issues relating to her gender. Tom attacks her on the issue, I provide the evidence to back up his statement, no mention of her gender was made by either Tom or me and yet you still find fault. Another fine example of your irrational based gender bias, the very essence of bigotry and sexism.

Pogo, looking at other 'customs' developed over time, the actual implementation of those Articles seems malleable.

Reading the Founders' correspondence would be instructive.

"but treating someone the same because they are female is sexist? I don't understand."

Rosie -- You said you were a waitress many years. Do you believe you have always been treated like a male?

I'm happy to say that the women on this blog are strong non-whiners, and that the men respect us enough to not hold back."

Does that include Brains despairing remarks he made to you not so long ago? There is only 1 Patsi here isn't there?

The founding fathers had very little say about the office of the VP as reflected in how little the office was discusses in the Federalist Papers.

Gordo, the American people haven't asked for anything and Obama hasn't said anything. Any skepticism I might have is irrelevant, and the rantings of a nut like Berg don't raise my skepticism. I do know that I don't believe a thing Berg says unless presented with irrefutable proof that what he has asserted is the only possible version of the truth on the matter. His history leads me to that position. Unlike you, I don't swallow what either of them says hook, line and sinker, and unlike you, I do not believe there is any requirement that anyone parade a verified BC around the country to prove they were born in Hawaii. And neither do I think Berg had any noble purpose in mind when he brought his suit - but purpose aside, Obama's lawyers had every obligation to challenge the suit if in their independent judgment it lacked merit. They thought so, they did what any lawyer in their position would, and the court agreed.

Tell Patsi about Obama's Pakistan trip - I don't care.

Brian, as much as you want to twist what people say, it ain't gonna work. No, I don't like Palin's views on gay marriage. Nor do I like the fact that BOTH Obama and Hillary pander on that issue.

I do however, think Palin's actual record AS governor isn't quite the glassy eyed radical you love to portray. I know that you are willing to do ANYTHING including flat lie to make a point.

And if you or Tom or anyone else wants to completely destroy her for those views, I ask again, did you froth equally over Huckabee or Brownbeck -- or many democrats who are either anti-abortion or against gay marriage?

Incase you've never read them flatus they are online.

http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/

Oh yeah patsi, I walk around daily singing the praises of Huckabee and Brownback. God you truly are nuts!

"Tell Patsi about Obama's Pakistan trip - I don't care. "

Actually, Pogo -- does Gordo's challange include a free trip to Pakistan? I'd like a vacation. I'll stop and ask about Obama in the hotel coffee shop. They no doubt recall him being there with Che. :)

Does Jim Webb support gay marriage? The democrats have a long list of those opposing. Why didn't you support Kucinich?

And Brian....I can stand either stupid or snarky in a person. But not both.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/measuring-the-democratic-wave.html#comment-165223

You must have a lot trouble being in your own company in that case.

Patsi-Nooo, but guys DO tend to smack each other on the ass now and then.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/measuring-the-democratic-wave.html#comment-165222

Unlike you Patsi I'm not a one issue voter.

but guys DO tend to smack each other on the ass now and then.

It is not the smacking you see on TV that matters, it is the pinching and palming you don't see.

BTW Brian, what did you say to SolarCrete last night?

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/measuring-the-democratic-wave.html#comment-165178

I'll be buying the series and I'm looking forward to the five episode mini series next year. Jack is a great character and they handle his rampant any port in a storm sexuality with the definite preference for men very well. There was a rumor going around that they were going to tone things down to get younger viewers, but Barrowman and the producers have said absolutely not as it would destroy the character and the show.

:) tell us about the pinching and palming.

I didn't say anything rosie, and if you look over the blog you'll see that. I have no idea what any of that was about. Apparently he didn't like me vigorously criticizing a what I felt was an amazingly stupid article that OSH had linked to.

palming? is that anything like pawing?

pogo ----------------

"... I do not believe there is any requirement that anyone parade a verified BC around the country to prove they were born in Hawaii."

This is not about Berg. Why do you continue to talk about Berg? It's a diversion from the real question - what is SoetorObama hidding?

There is a Constitutional requirement that he have "natural" born citizenship status. He refuses to show any proof other than an altered COLB image on three sites. If he had the proof, he would show the proof.

Are you aware that a Hawaiian BC/COLB does not mean that the person was born in HI? That could ONE of the reasons the site COLBs were altered.

could be ONE

Where's my ticket to Karachi, Gordo? And I'd like a hotel near the bay.

Wow...gotta love this market.....keep runnin.....we gotta get there and dump before cap gains increase hits.....then into the mattress for awhile....laughs

Tsk, jaxtrader, such a bottom feeder :)

":) tell us about the pinching and palming."

I only worked as a waitress one night, Rosie. When I was in college. A businessman stuck his hand down my sundress and I poured a pitcher of beer in his lap.

Rosie,
I get it right so seldom...please let me enjoy this....:)

One issue voter? A no issue voter. Winning is all that counts.

McCain Cuts Minnesota Ad Buys In Final Week

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/28/mccain-cuts-minnesota-ad_n_138451.html

OSH----forgot to tell you to put in potato''s in the soup lots of em (6-7)
cut in half's add salt to taste------ill catch up with the threads later,see u

There is a difference between being sexually abused and being treated in a , as you are refering to it, "sexist manner". And you never answered my question about what exactly was sexist about the ways Hillary and Palin were treated.

GOP takes out loan to help Senate candidates

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/28/gop-takes-out-loan-to-hel_n_138680.html

they have to borrow the money? what happened to that mighty fund raising GOP machine?

What happened to auctioning off Sarah's wardrobe?

Obama Camp Giddy Over Early Voting Extension In Florida

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/28/obama-camp-giddy-over-ear_n_138656.html

Very good news, and good for Crist.

Solar! I'm glad you are back! I love your posts -- keep 'em coming.

Hey Solar! I was worried for a while we wouldn't hear you again. Please join facebook. Me n' EuroTom would love you to join us!