Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

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A bit of Presidential trivia is probably ending in this election. There has never been a President whose last name began with the letters:

E, I, K, N, O, P, Q, S, V, X, or Y

Obama will eliminate a letter.

Oops. Not my day, those are the first name letters. The last name letters are

D, I , O, Q, S, U, X, Y, or Z

Still applies for Obama being the first "O"

xrepublican, So you feel it would be all right to incinerate nazi's? Really?
Or was I supposed to read you thoughts to include all that you added later. I responded to your question, maybe I should not have.

Craig I felt it when he said it, that is why this repost from last thread, I didn't want to say anything last night, T B should have asked him what he meant by that one

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Anselm, just gotta say something here-----re Illegals

Since I was a small child until now I have been hearing how the Illegals, wetbacks, greasers, and more have been getting a free ride here in our Country, I agreed until middle age. You see with the illegal invasion of Mexico, by us, Mexico lost, stolen by gun point 44% of it's territory. I'll just name one for now, California, a state larger that the British Isles. San Francisco's bay alone, in the way of import export to the world (trade) in the hands of our government has made much of our growth possible.

We should stop the starving people from that country from coming here----I agree especially in the hard time that are coming our way, there are a lot of reasons that they are here. West of the furthest state that was stolen from Mexico they are illegal--maybe,Jamie mentioned some benefits that they receive already, I think, I hope, because it is already a reality, and not agreeing with the way that you put it.

Craig said that 6,000 lurkers are around here,not a bad way to reach them with the truth, and knowledge that these people provide, can't wait until the elections are over so this and other worth while topics are discussed.

"that one". . .It was obvious to me it's in the same vein as "those people"

Typical Rethug divisive politics; same game , new day.

A new political candidate NOW on the scene!

This could change the race

http://www.tsgnet.com/pres.php?id=46832&altf=Dsbjh&altl=Dsbxgpse

This is a must watch

"--the essence of racism -- was intentional"

craig, better duck. you're going to get a lot of blowback on this.

bear, my 1:22 pm was responding to your carville "cotton" quote. i forgot to also suggest the bho change of mind this spring re public financing might have been a factor too.... or at least compounded things in jmc's eyes.

that is the people on this blog.

Another Obama-Ayers-Klonsky-Lenz nexis

http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/10/08/another-obama-ayers-klonsky-lenz-nexis/

Craig --("That one" comment) "And perhaps the implicit objectification of a human being -- the essence of racism -- was intentional."

Craig, I wonder if your comment may be an artifact of your geographic upbringing? I believe putting the comment in the context of race just because Obama is black may be one explanation, but I believe other explanations are equally plausible. What if his comment had been made toward Hillary Clinton? Or Joe Biden? Personally, I took it more of an objectification of age, not race.

Replay that scene, put a cane in McCain's hand, and envision this line instead..."That young whipper-snapper..."

Craig, Good luck on your race....

And it is a great point - the clip shows the factual difference of McCain from not only Obama, but also Bush.

Actually, I dont see the "that one" comment as racial, only as disrespectful. It is final, when one thinks of an honorable american hero, one does not think of John McCain, he has seen to that himself. McCain has brought dishonor to his career with his disrespectful attitude. It's true that negative ads work, but it is also true that Americans believe that there is a limit to how and what you say. It will be sad to see all of those who screamed bloody murder about supporting our president during war when it was a republican, back track when Obama is sworn in.

"That one" comment: Dismissive? Yes. Racist? Kind of a stretch, but possible. I think you could have bolstered this argument by also citing McCain's attack on Brokaw, the "not you, Tom" comment, as a continuation of the campaign's theme of MSM bias as you are trying to tie the "that one" comment as a continuation of the campaign's supposed fomentation racist sentiment. "THE one" characterization mocks the deification of a human being, while "THAT one" could be construed as an objectification of a human being, which doesn't speak to consistency of message at all. I'd like to give McCain the benefit of the doubt in that he was all over the place trying to salvage a 2- year-long mismanaged campaign in an hour and a half.

I think the media has stirred up more racist sentiment than either campaign has.

It will be sad to see all of those who screamed bloody murder about supporting our president during war when it was a republican, back track when Obama is sworn in.

Posted by: ADRIEL | October 8, 2008 3:46 PM

Amen, Adriel. To Afghanistan, Pakistan, and beyond!

Ping...That was great! Everybody needs to watch this video...especially Craig!!!

My opinion of McCain's 'That One' moment...He could have mitigated it if he'd only responded with "This One' to his rhetorical question about who voted FOR the bill. However, I do think he meant it to be demeaning, though I'm not sure he meant it in a racist manner.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Some people might not be too old for the presidency at 72. Initially, I didn't think McCain was too old for the presidency. I've changed my mind. His day is past.

Oops! Meant to add a link to the video link that Ping posted. For a treat, go watch it!

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/mccains-that-one-moment.html#comment-156496

"I think the media has stirred up more racist sentiment than either campaign has."

champ..... I completely agree.....

I will not be voting for McCain..... but I am sick of the politics of personal destruction...... the Republicans have made a fine art out of it..... and now the Democrats are following suit.....

I didn't much care for McCain's debate performance last night...... but to accuse him of openly using a racist remark.... says more about the journalists making that claim than it does about McCain, IMO.....

Champ
I think you are right on, it is also cultural, my wife from NJ (I talion) sometimes while talking to friends, points to me and say's that one, but I have to wonder where McCain would have picked up this habit, Maybe by past examples the R's are blamed for anything that appears to code language.

On a completely unrelated topic....The majority of the Central Banks are beginning to coordinate their response to the global credit crisis. As a result, we are beginning to see the major financial indices starting to stabilize. This isn't over by a long-shot, but had the Central Banks not started acting in concert, a world-wide depression in a fairly short timeframe wasn't out of the question. We're still in for a fairly deep recession...

Hopefully people will now begin to understand the magnitude of what is happening, and quit pointing fingers at the "greedy CEOs on Wall Street" for what they perceive as a US-only problem. Those guys make for great scapegoats, but maybe people will now realize that what happened in the global credit market were a confluence of events that went far beyond the US market.

One more example of how interconnected the world has become, and how we have to think in terms of global solutions, not just what makes us feel good here in the US...

to be coded language--sorry.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/mccains-that-one-moment.html#comment-156494

Solarcrete

Just one small quibble. California was stolen, but it was stolen with a great deal of cooperation with many of the old Spanish and Mexican families who wanted nothing to do with Mexico. While there were several battles, it was almost a bloodless coup to go from Mexican territory, to California Republic, to U. S. State

Apparently Cindy McCain said Obama's vote to cut troop funding, because it lacked a timeline, scared her because her son was getting deployed and she says he needs to walk a day in her shoes to know what it's like, yada yada yada...

1. Would those be $500 shoes he'd be wearing?

2. Is she equally scared her own husband voted against funding the troops if the measure had a timeline?

3. Doesn't she realize her husband voted against plans and funding that would have provided armored vehicles and body armor to the troops who were first deployed in Iraq? Where was her outrage then?

Little by little

Just had a client call me that said her bank will release only $10,000 of 25k that she applies for to repair foundation leaks, and a large concrete driveeway-----she was told that all of the ball. of the 25k would be released little by little, sound like a home equity loan to me?

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/mccains-that-one-moment.html#comment-156508

Renee, I agree. Given his age and background as a privileged son of a Naval Admiral, he probably has a kind of cultural racism, but I don't think the "That One" remark was racist. It was more like an old man putting down a young kid who has done something silly. It was closer to "whippersnapper" than the N word. It was dismissive and disrespectful, but just gramps being cranky.

Solarcrete,

What state does she live in, TX?

Scathing ad from votevets.org

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnvQ_4G8l4w&eurl=http://votevets.org/index_html

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/mccains-that-one-moment.html#comment-156496

ha, ping, thanks for the endorsement. what a cool site. you can submit anyone's name and make them a presidential candidate. sort of like real life

Jamie true

Would we want the reverse happen now, should the rich and powerful sell the US to China or anyone that can afford us just because the some one doesn't like it here, but I won't quibble, was it theirs to sell or give away, Pres.PolK was refused the sale of Mexico,more than once

Craig,

What the hell, why aren't you selling the bumper stickers on your site? lol

http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/1008/Invoking_sons_service_Cindy_McCain_levels_tough_shot_at_Obama_on_troops.html

Bear

Im in a Suburb of Chicago, but I think it's a good sign, I having been in sales most of my life I asked her some questions before applying, she is employed by the city of chicago (20 yrs) excellent credit, I told her lets go for it, it looked good to me, the banks still have to do a little business don't they?

Bear

If you are interested, the next time I talk to her I could find out where she banks?

Yes they do...credit unions are even better since they control their lending based on the amount of cash on hand. If she was given any kind of loan with controlled disbursements, it sounds like she was quoted for a Home Improvement loan. The market for equity loans has dried up, even for purchase money seconds and from what I've seen, lenders are only considering them for HI only. When the loan is for HI, they have controls for what gets disbursed.

Craig - You Have My Vote !! I know you to be fiscal responsible.

Where do I send a contribution !!!!

Bear

My bad,first time that i have used my bad not, kinda like it, it's short. I was a home improvement, through a bank or credit union? I live in the suburbs, but am aware that city workers have to live in the city also, don't tell anyone but this is where i am targeting flyers, and will rotate specials between firefighter, cops, teachers etc, they still have to have repairs done to their houses if it harms the house, not remodeling exactly but foundation leaks etc, the reason that i am writing this is if it might help some contractor out there to survive. thanks

"That One" Moment was part of the political Game !! It was not mean to be offensive. What it's really disrespectful to me is the way that the Media has been favored Obama ! I'm from Cuba. I have lived most of my life in a Socialist system and I know what a Big Disaster is to give the goverment a lot of Control. We have a saying " tell me which are the people around you and I'm going to tell you who you are" ,so let's see who are some of Obama's people...Ayers, Rezko, reverend Wright ....etc...I came to this great nation looking for Freedom, and because of that I'm going to vote for McCain. I don't want a Change to the Left !!

Everyone Loves A Good Mystery
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/blogs/index.php/rubin/36892

I had roof damaged by hail once. The insurance company made me take the check for the whole amount to the mortgage company and the mortgage company gave me a portion to pay the roofers for their materials. As the work went on one of the inspectors (probably working for the mortgage co) drove by and then I was able to get the other part of the check to pay for the labor on the roof.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/mccains-that-one-moment.html#comment-156528

Julie,

McCains surroundings include Russian Oligarchs, wealthy lobbyists, and oil magnates.

I would rather have a candidate whose associates had a criminal past rather than one whose associates have a criminal present.

McCain was about to say "that boy" but then he suddenly remembered that it wouldn't be PC to refer to a fully grown black man as a "boy" so he quickly changed it to say "that one."

Just shy of using the N-word, IMO.

It was not right when Obama did it to Hillary, "she is likable enough" it;s not right now that McCain does it, but the coded conversations and coded meanings from the R's are sure to come, I have no doubt about it, the red states are red states.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/mccains-that-one-moment.html#comment-156526

ha, ping, i accept your nomination. my platform: Progressive redneck libertarian with free market attitude and a dose of social responsibility

i will accept no financial contributions from anyone. this is an unfunded grass roots movement

Or, McCain's comment could imply something much more vicious, tapping into the undercurrent of racism that comes with "not one of us."

This guy thinks this might become the Macaca moment for McCain! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWSRBQQCfUI

"i will accept no financial contributions from anyone."

Craig...... gee whiz.... I was just going to offer to bake you a cake...... now....
never mind...... ;0)

"Another Obama-Ayers-Klonsky-Lenz nexis"

G Man,

My opinion only: You are either real naive or just unknowledgeable about at least two things that I recognize right off the bat. Otherwise you wouldn't be as concerned about Obama's family and past associations as you portray yourself:

1) family and human relations in small groups or enclaves of ethnic peoples;

2) the evolution of leadership in movements for extreme change.

Now, I'm not an expert in these areas by any means, but I think I have a more than average life experience in both.

I agree you have the utmost right to be concerned about our country and it's political leadership. I'm only pointing this out in reply to you and others who are somehow shocked and dismayed when some of us don't faint or shout out in outrage because Obama has some tenuous past family and personal relationships.

Interesting read; David Brooks, conservative writer

"He's(Obama) phenomenally good at surrounding himself with a team," Brooks said. "I disagree with them on most issues, but I am given a lot of comfort by the fact that the people he's chosen are exactly the people I think most of us would want to choose if we were in his shoes. So again, I have doubts about him just because he was such a mediocre senator, but his capacity to pick staff is impressive."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/08/david-brooks-sarah-palin_n_133001.html

hmmmm, I've seen that clip before. :)

Bear---advise to clients that might help with sales?

And others, winter is coming, if you are thinking of insulation for your attic or walls, try using two inch concrete foundation insulation (double up and make it 4 inches) R factor should be over 30-40, use tape (duck it) for the sides, them use a heavy plastic (visquine), and run it along like the ridge line of your roof, it's not costly and very efficient, keeps cold and hot weather out pretty good, cut out for foof vents,etc. also for attic floors, crawl spaces to help the cold from going up into house as much, I hope this helps someone keep a little warmer,.

McCain Calls Americans His "Fellow Prisoners"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/08/mccain-calls-americans-hi_n_133037.html

You just never know where PTSD is going t rear it's ugly head! Gramps is losing it.

my platform: Progressive redneck libertarian with free market attitude and a dose of social responsibility

Posted by: Craig Crawford Author Profile Page | October 8, 2008 5:09 PM

Sounds good to me. Wish you'd say it more often.

Solar,

The HI companies are pushing window replacements and radiant barriers down here to cut bills...

Craig,

Two things...

1. Don't you have to work outdoors to be considered a true redneck? lol

2. This clip would have been a nice addition to your that one post...plus a reason to see Scarlett in action...

http://www.yougottagetachandelier.com/

http://www.internetshirtcompany.com/images/obama-that-one-mccain/that-one-obama-mccain-election-2008-shirt.jpg

Huffington Post- FoxNews for "Liberals"

Hey Craig is the reference to redneck connected to union support or what?:-)

Jamie

An after thought---much like today with the Media selling the invasion of Iraq to us for Pres. Bush, it did like wise help Pres.Polk make elaborate plans to invade Mexico, this war was the birth of the Associated Press also, the first war that people back home could read about as it was happening, well as fast as the fastest horses could carry them.You would think that we would have learned by now, maybe it's our fault for letting them manipulate us so much all the time.

Too continue further,

Anyone who wants money to do HI in your area solar, if they have the equity, should look to do an FHA refi since you can do cash out up to 95%. If you are doing energy efficiency improvements to the house, an underwriter will calculate the amount of savings you would receive and use that as income to help in qualifying someone for the loan.

Texas has the equity loan limits so that's not an option here, but it is everywhere else in the country.

Bear

Thank you---have a meeting next week about fha refi, but do have a question for for you, do you know anything about SGLI veteran loans, are they being used, sorta like the Unions?

I don't know about those specific veterans loans but if you can qualify for a VA loan you can get a purchase or refi up to 100% Loan to value.

I'll research it for you. I wonder if it's some type of grant program that gives funds at below market rates...

Solarcrete

Wiki actually has a fairly comprehensive article on the Mexican American war for those who like the Reader's Digest verstion of history

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican-American_War

Good evening- Where's Jack at? Is he alright?

Since GORDO is a fan of chasing birth records, can he figure out why Trig Palin, who was born on April 18, 2008 doesn't show up on the list of births at the hospital he was born at?

http://www.matsuregional.com/nursery/nursery_calendar.php?month=4&year=2008

We need someone steady and intelligent to be President in these unsteady times.

Conservative David Brooks on Barack Obama -
"Obama has the great intellect. I was interviewing Obama a couple years ago, and I'm getting nowhere with the interview, it's late in the night, he's on the phone, walking off the Senate floor, he's cranky. Out of the blue I say, 'Ever read a guy named Reinhold Niebuhr?' And he says, 'Yeah.' So i say, 'What did Niebuhr mean to you?' For the next 20 minutes, he gave me a perfect description of Reinhold Niebuhr's thought, which is a very subtle thought process based on the idea that you have to use power while it corrupts you. And I was dazzled, I felt the tingle up my knee as Chris Matthews would say.

And the other thing that does separate Obama from just a pure intellectual: he has tremendous powers of social perception. And this is why he's a politician, not an academic. A couple of years ago, I was writing columns attacking the Republican congress for spending too much money. And I throw in a few sentences attacking the Democrats to make myself feel better. And one morning I get an email from Obama saying, 'David, if you wanna attack us, fine, but you're only throwing in those sentences to make yourself feel better.' And it was a perfect description of what was going through my mind. And everybody who knows Obama all have these stories to tell about his capacity for social perception.

Brooks predicted an Obama victory by nine points, and said that although he found Obama to be "a very mediocre senator," he was is surrounded by what Brooks called "by far the most impressive people in the Democratic party."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/08/david-brooks-sarah-palin_n_133001.html

here's Jack's email:

whskyjack at Yahoo.com

I think that John McCain has always been respectful of Sen. Obama. In fact as recent as a day or so ago, when someone used Obama's middle name in an "insulting" fashion. McCain was very unhappy with the person who did this and made his feelings be known. So, I wouldn't read too much into the "that one" comment. John McCain was just being "John McCain" for whatever it is worth.

Jamie

Thank you, what peaked my interest was the names that were in that war, U.S Grant, A Lincoln( a congressman at that time),Scots epic march,Z Taylor,names that I had read about but not associated together, facinating, I did not read for the explicit reason to defend illegals, Mexican's or anything like it but since i did, it gave me a much better understanding of attitudes of some, I believe like slavery, the American Indians, the lack of true knowledge is a large part of hateful actions by some people easily led.I don't have any answers for all this, but i do know it's through educating people to the truth, I hope that Obama does have that conversation he promised us about race to start it off, if not we all can do what we can, I refuse anyone around me to talk about other people in a demeaning way.

This is absolutely hilarious...

"I Voted for Hillary Clinton"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Wroj0FLvzs&eurl=http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/

The amazing things about this video...

1. This drunk woman knows Spain is an ally and McCain doesn't.

2. Despite your first impression, race isn't her issue.

SolarCrete

One of the advantages of being my age is that those of us who were raised in a state that was formerly part of Mexico are very comfortable with the whole idea of the constant back and forth across the border. We are well aware of the modern problems having to do with drugs, potential for terrorism and undercutting of wages.

At the same time, these are people we have lived with all of our lives who simply want what everyone wants: A place to raise their family in safety and a job to put a roof over their heads. There are many places where the neighboring cities are separated by a bridge or a fence down the middle of a street.

"Huffington Post- FoxNews for "Liberals"

Champ,

I know you know the HuffPo blog is basically an aggregator of news articles more than a news reporting group.

Granted it's liberal leaning as evidenced mostly by the collection of blog writers and their topics, but just because an article/story is linked from there doesn't necessarily mean it has a liberal slant or author.

Sometimes it's just more convenient to provide the Huffpo link rather than the primary source article/video. Frankly, sometimes FOXNews is that source.

I think Jamie has pointed this out more than once.

Craig,
Do you go into some sort of peyote trance when you write these things? I can't believe how someone who comes across as relatively sane on television can seem like such a dolt in this forum. Disapponting.

Jamie

Last post----I like to find out the why of things. A wonderful book titled Cow, Hogs, Witches, and Wars is great book,( can't think of who wrote in now)It explained why the in India they don't eat their cows, why the Jewish people don't eat pork, the part about wars and witches revealing, but don't let them kid you behind closed doors they eat it all,thanks

McCain will be accused of racism regardless

http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/1008/McCain_will_be_accused_of_racism_regardless.html

hmmmmm payote trance!

Today's 538

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/

Electoral Vote

Obama - 346.8

McCain - 191.2

Popular Vote: 51.9% to 46.5%

Jamie

Saw a picture of you once, what are you 50 -55

and tax---ha ha just a little

Champ- thanks.

SolarCrete

http://www.amazon.com/Cows-Pigs-Wars-Witches-Riddles/dp/book-citations/0679724680

That books sounds fascinating. I may have to order a copy.

JR,

It's called pre-emption; Politics 101.

"Craig,
Do you go into some sort of peyote trance when you write these things? I can't believe how someone who comes across as relatively sane on television can seem like such a dolt in this forum. Disapponting. -- Posted by: Jim Rao"

Jim Rao, welcome aboard the Peyote Express

Wow Cindy is getting pretty bitchy on the campaign trail.

John McCain = Floyd R. Turbo

http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2005/01/24/mn_a_carson_turbo.jpg

I think the McCain campaign is stepping into very dangerous territory, someone of color is going to end up getting hurt at one of their rallies.

A few bits of Presidential trivia

http://jdurward.blogspot.com/

SolarCrete

In March I celebrated the 32nd anniversary of my 32nd birthday. :-)

Pick a great year and stick with it.

Posted by: Animal Control | October 8, 2008 3:17 PM : xrepublican, So you feel it would be all right to incinerate nazi's? Really?
Or was I supposed to read you thoughts to include all that you added later. I responded to your question, maybe I should not have.
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I'm sorry if I was unclear. Just nazis, thank you.

I don't see much use in wasting any food, water, clothing, or shelter on genocidal maniacs, when there are innocent people in need.

Not really champ, seriously. I think someone needs to explain to Gov. Palin that there is a difference between rev up the crowd and whipping them up into a frenzy.

If you are not satisfied with either Sen. Obama or Sen. McCain here is a web site that will show all the rest of the people running that will not be elected. It might make you feel better about Obama & McCain, then again it might be time for someone that is really thinking outside the box.

An example could be the: Progressive Redneck Libertarian Free Market Social Responsibility Party.

It kind of reminds me of what you would have if you combined the Charlie Daniels Band, The Marshall Tucker Band and the Allman Brothers Band.

The Charlie Tucker Brothers

http://www.politics1.com/p2008.htm

Jamie

I'm very delighted that i could recommend a book to someone that so well read, you are going to love the religion of Jhon Fund and their reply to Jesus.

SolarCrete

It may take me a while. My Amazon wish list bears a scary resemblance to the national debt.

Posted by: Inconsequential Voter | October 8, 2008 6:06 PM : "Since GORDO is a fan of chasing birth records, can he figure out why Trig Palin, who was born on April 18, 2008 doesn't show up on the list of births at the hospital he was born at."
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I've asked this Q also, but then GORDO disappears. I'm sure that he rushed off to question the hospital administrators on this.( :>D)
Maybe Trig is a 'Rosemary's Baby' ( :>b)

Craig -- "Jim Rao, welcome aboard the Peyote Express"

Wasn't that the name of a Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young song?

No wait, that was the Marakesh Express....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtzIwGViR5w

"Google has made available its search engine index from 2001 as part of its 10th anniversary. Here are a few tidbits that you may not find on today’s Internet…" about Barack Obama
http://theindependentview.com/?p=257

Trig Palin isn't running for president.

John Carlson of the Des Moines Register wrote a piece today on the similarities between the way Iowegians and Sarah Palin talk. Turns out her Wasilla ancestors came from Minnesota. Now that explains everything...

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20081008/NEWS03/810080370/1166/OPINION01

great link, Spike. thanks. mebbe Jim Rao is a crosby stills fan

"Trig Palin isn't running for president."

Might be a step up from what we have now.

Someone needs to tell Tweety that a quintile is 1/5 not 1/4

Anyone know how long you need to boil a chicken carcass to make stock?

You would think the computer based generation would know that hacking, reading, opening another person's email is a violation of law.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93MDSE80&show_article=1

Not that you couldn't google it yourself, bear, and aware that I'm making myself sound like a know-it-all by answering, until the carcass disintegrates, then strain it. put some vegetables in too.

Obama & Friends: History of Radicalism (1 of 3)

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/06/obama-friends-history-of-radicalism/

And by 'disintegrates", I mean that if you pick it up with a fork or tongs, it falls apart. Not utter atomization or anything. You're trying to get the nutrients out of the bones.

Bear, depends if you are at sea level or higher elevations.

No really, 40 mins will do it. I usually boil it with chopped celery and onions. Then, remove the chicken, the let the broth cool so the fat hardens and you can skim it off. If you are making soup, let the bird cool then pick all the useful meat off. Combine the meat, the broth, a cube or two of vegetable bullion and add any veggies you choose. Carrots & peas are my choice. Then add some cooked rice and you will have a chicken soup that beats any sold in stores.

I posted on the earlier thread today to see if anyone knew anything about Obama's health care program?

The only section anyone alluded to was about illegal aliens. So I take it none of you who are in favor of this health plan know what it will cost you, the deductible, the catastrophic coverage, if you have a choice of physicians and/or hospitals, if it is modeled after the federal employees health care, or if you have health insurance will you still have to pay for this other insurance in the way of higher taxes? How can one be in favor of something when one has no knowledge of it's inner workings. That would be coverage and cost.? You are assuming just because it might be offered someday it will be a good deal. It may cost you $1,000 a month for a family program. One thing we do know, it won't be free.

Bear,

How big is it and is it frozen ?

He said carcass. He already cooked the chicken. Duh. Fight! Fight!

Who "won" the second 2008 Presidential debate? Well, it depends when you asked the question...

If you look at the Intrade.com Presidential Futures Market trading during the debate through the 24 hours afterward, you can see four different answers...

During the first part of the debate, the candidates were essentially tied (in terms of change). When the debate moved into the foreign policy section, McCain's numbers spiked rapidly as Obama's numbers tanked. However, the more McCain and Obama delved into specfics of foreign policy issues, McCain's numbers tanked as fast as they previously rose, as Obama's numbers rose rapidly.

By the time the debate was over, trading for each candidate moved back to the pre-debate trading levels. However, after stable overnight trading levels, Obama's trading levels have risen approximately eight percent throughout today, as McCain's levels have fallen almost twenty percent over the same time period.

http://worldsofspike.blogspot.com

Anselm, Oh yea of little faith.

We don't need to know the details. You are nit-picking (I hope that phrase is not offensive to anyone).

It is like when I buy a car, it is a great deal, now how much can you afford? We will adjust the terms accordingly. But don't worry, you can afford the payment, it just will not be a 3 or 5 year loan, you will pay for the next 50 years.

Thanks, Spike! I like CSN's version of Blackbird better than the Beatles. I know that is blasphemy but no group had three part harmony like these guys.

Stephen Stills is my absolute favorite. One of the best acoustic guitar players on the planet. I have been lucky enough to see him play acoustic and electric guitar live over the years and it always amazes me that his studio work doesn't compare to seeing him in concert. Mr. Stills is quite underated when the names of guitar heroes are being bantered about. IMHO he ranks right up there with the best.

I wish we could get away from the concept of "winning" a presidential debate. It should be an opportunity to learn about and contrast policy positions, rather than to decide which policy position is preferable, as that is subjective anyway. To that end, I think the American electorate lost, as nothing new was learned in the most recent debate. It's just political theater; something to mitigate the tedium of daily existence, like professional football or or a new episode of "Desperate Housewives".

"Maybe Trig is a 'Rosemary's Baby' "

Can't even recall the last time I saw something this offensive...

Yeah, good post Anselm at 8:17

Champ

Ha thought that you did not watch tv, desperate house wives huh

Anserlm,

As a cancer survivor, who had a diabetes-related heart attack, and who suffers from diabetes-related peripheral neuropathy, I think it would be a great idea to get everyone insured. We all pay for the health care of indigent people, if not through Medicare, paid for through income and corporate taxes, then through your county hospital, paid for by your property taxes. Studies show that insured people are healthier, have their problems treated in a more timely and thus cost effective manner. Insured people are therefore less expensive to treat. Also, if the 20 somethings were pushed into a universal insurance pool, their health would improve, and they would bring more cash to the medical industry, making a dent in the costs of providing health care.

Another way of lowering health care costs would be to ban the use of tobacco.

I watched a baseball game on Sunday, and will probably watch another tomorrow. Won't be happy about it. I'm aware of other shows by the advertising for them on the internet, and from the discussions friends and family have about them.

Champ: Interesting point. Craig, just how much influence do debates really have at this point?

Other than the claims of the transmitter on Bush's back in '04, have there really been any memorable moments in recent history? Seems like the debates in the 80's had greater impact on the eventual outcome of those elections.

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/

I don't know why you nitwits keep asking about this plan or any others, they have been up on the web for over a year. I assume since you're on this blog you can use a web browser.

Another way of lowering health care costs would be to ban the use of tobacco.

Posted by: xrepublican Author Profile Page | October 8, 2008 8:34 PM

Ban food, too, while you're banning things. Food kills. Cars; ban them, people get hurt by them. Ban keyboards- carpal tunnel. Ban glass; I stepped on glass once and had to get stitches. Ban tables, people stub their toes on them; can't have that. Hmmm, what else can we ban in your dystopia?

Rosemary's Baby, LOL.

X: I agree about everyone being insured. The system needs a major overhaul, though, since there are so many gaps in coverage and what the health insurers can get away with. It is hard to accept that Americans are losing their homes and all they've worked for due to catastrophic medical bills.

That is something that Americans should not tolerate from our leaders or the medical and insurance industries. That nonsense has got to stop.

http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/Read.aspx?guid=b9af0d4c-9c0e-4a97-b27f-19df8cfec83d

McCain's latest Hail Mary pass? For a man with bad arms he sure has no trouble making those long throws.

Obama & Friends: History of Radicalism (2 of 3)

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/06/obama-friends-history-of-radicalism-2-of-3/

Oh Champ you still here? Hows it going little buddy?

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/mccains-that-one-moment.html#comment-156599

Anselm, There is no way of knowing at present all of the details that you requested. The only thing that can be known is that it will be cheaper than the majority of plans currently in existence. My preference would be a single payer system but since Obama is still trying to work through the Insurance companies, let's go with the obvious.

The larger the pool, the more the risk is spread over the largest possible group. People getting "well care" get treated before they need very expensive "emergency care".

If you want some insight into this type of plan, you might check out Belgium. It is closer to the Obama plan than Britain or Canada.

Here is some basic info

http://www.expatica.com/be/housing/relocation/belgian-healthcare-system-1493.html

How about we let people die naturally? That would probably cut health care costs dramatically.

Everyone start throwing the harpoons.

An Ode to Hannity, LOL, that was great!

Champ you know I love you, but please don't ever say you think you're providing some service while I'm eating, I almost choked on my steak.

Damn. So close.

Obama & Friends: History of Radicalism (3 of 3)

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/06/obama-friends-history-of-radicalism-3-of-3/

Posted by: Patsi | October 8, 2008 8:29 PM : "Maybe Trig is a 'Rosemary's Baby' "
"Can't even recall the last time I saw something this offensive..."
***********************************************************
I am sorry to offend. Please accept my apologies. Trig was born into a hostile world where parasites seem to run things, and I am also sorry for that.

The most offensive thing that I have seen recently is the use by politicians of their children as tools to achieve political ambitions. When his parents made Trig a political gimmick for stirring up Evangelicals, that politicization became fair game. For me, the most horrifying part of 'Rosemary's Baby' was that the baby was merely a vehicle for the achievement of the adults' ambitions.

So lets see, the great war hero, the man who promised to hunt down Bin Laden to the gates of hell is now hiding behind the skirts of his wife and the gov. of Alaska. Too friggin funny.

Bowman

Would you care to define "dying naturally".

If you mean elderly not receiving super expensive life prolonging care so that their children don't feel guilty when what they might prefer would be a nice, peaceful hospice and pain meds until they stop inhaling, I'm all for it.

Now if you mean a three year old pulled out of a car wreck who could be repaired but would die "naturally" if untreated, then I might give you an argument.

How come the first dude from Alaska isn't allowed to make campaign speeches? Why's he being left out of the freak show?

stephan grapelli.......visual of dooley, humphrey and ingrid......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FogmcygI3A&feature=related

I think McCain was going for he's the one and "that one" came out instead. Trying to make this into something else is really silly and a waste of time. It certainly didn't seem racist. The only racism I see is from those trying to make it sound racist and that is really getting old.

I do think both of the candidates should have shown more passion/anger over this Wall Street crisis. They should be threatening to go after anyone and everyone involved. Not likely. I think we should all insist on it!. I am mad as hell and they seemed to be on sedatives.

The only serious passion I have seen in a while in this race is coming from Sarah Palin. Sorry but I am starting to like the idea of a kick ass and take names lady in the White House. Someone needs to shake up things. We have seen what the "smartest men in the room" have done to us.

quintal = 100 kilograms

and the buddy he came in on: The Djangomeister

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEzsPGHsi90&feature=related

CT you do understand with your last post you called Craig a racist?

"Can't even recall the last time I saw something this offensive..."

Patsi, it's that "hate" thing and becoming ubiquitous-for some nothing is out of bounds. I believe it was Champ that referred to something like "group think" or people (if you can call them that) who are influenced by their immediate crowd--something like that. It's unconscionable.

Champ,

The difference between tobacco, food, cars, keyboards, and tables is that there is NO safe way to consume tobacco, whereas almost all of us use cars and food, et alia, without dying of them.

I have a reasonable and Conservative objection to tobacco users inflating the costs for MY medical care, and for necessitating the raising of MY taxes to fund Medicare and my county hospitals. There is no good purpose served by using tobacco - it is an elective activity. However, paying for medical care and paying taxes are not elective activities for me. It's MY money, and this tobacco-loving administration perpetuates a deadly dystopia. Funny, Champ, I thought you were pro-life.

Craig's gonna run for president? Well, here's a little tip for you, Craig: If Letterman invites you to be a guest on his program, you'd better not stand him up. If you do, he will make you the butt of every joke in his monologue for several weeks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFBv8bgHgfQ

Okay Mr. Fish.

Here is your music trivia for the night. Dooley Wilson sings three songs in Casablanca: As Time Goes By, Knock On Wood, and a third that is often cut because of the racial references (You will note that You Tube has the first two but not the third).

This song was published in 1910, sung and played by Louis Armstrong, and then used by Dooley Wilson in Casablanca. Do you know or can you guess the title before you click on the link with the lyrics?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shine_(Cecil_Mack_song)

I provide medical care to inmates in prison. I see some of the young poor guys wasting away in jail for having stolen less than $100 while these Wall Street Crooks are relaxing in luxury in spas with our tax dollars. Where is the justice?

Quintile = one fifth or 20% of a given amount

I said it is racist to try and make that connection. No one can really get into someone elses brain. By the way I have been called a racist here. There was more than one here trying to make the connection. If the shoe fits.....

Sturg -- Absolutely love Grappelli...He and Django and the Hot Club of Paris were absolutely groundbreaking. His 1981 album with David Grisman are in my regular playlist. I also highly recommend Stephane Grappelli and Jean-Luc Ponty: Compact Jazz (1988, MPS)

Jamie: 1...........sturgeone: 0

I wonder what yall'd do if you ran into a REAL racist.....

Sarah Palin to drop the puck at Philadelphia Flyers season opener vs. the NY Rangers on Saturday.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news;_ylt=Aksb1BcJHictnSao3HwhjAc5nYcB?slug=ap-flyers-palin&prov=ap&type=lgns

>>quintal = 100 kilogram

Way too much peotye

Jamie, The former not the latter.

Hell, I just had a conversation with a friend at work that is in his 40's and had been diagnosed with cancer of the lower esophagus. This was the first time I talked with him since he found out. All I could tell him was that I was pulling for him and was sending out positive vibes (some people call it praying) because I want him to live and thrive.

Contrast that with my 87 yo father in law a year ago, when i visited him, I knew his time was near. Our family was with him to then end, but we decided not to push for extraordinary measures. We spoke with him and stayed by his bedside, and we let him know that there were family members on there way to see him, but it would take a few days for them to arrive. amazingly, he hung in there until all the people that could be there had spent some time with him. The he said it was time to go. As usual he was correct.

"The most offensive thing that I have seen recently is the use by politicians of their children as tools to achieve political ambitions. When his parents made Trig a political gimmick for stirring up Evangelicals, that politicization became fair game. For me, the most horrifying part of 'Rosemary's Baby' was that the baby was merely a vehicle for the achievement of the adults' ambitions."

Posted by: xrepublican Author Profile Page | October 8, 2008 9:02 PM

Disgusting rationalization for a disgusting interpretation.

AnimalControl,
Where is your indignation when limbaugh calls Chelsea Clinton a dog ? Where is it when GORDO and others post links to sites that couple Obama with communism ? When John Kerry and Max Clelland are called cowards, and Al Gore is called un-American ? When rejerklicans call call Hillary Clinton a bitch ? When scores of republican web sites make accusations about Michelle Obama ? When thousands of republican posters spread the lie that Obama wants to get kindergarteners involved with sex ? And of course, when palin impunes Joe Biden's patriotism. Where is your indignation about these villains ?

It's only objectionable when the abuse is turned back at the regurglican name-callers, isn't it ? It's never group think when your fellow Conformatives create tidal waves of dirty lies.

Jamie, I'm not near a dictionary and don't trust Wiki but doesn't your spelling "Quintile" refer to some astronomical measurement?

Moreover, Quintal (as I spelled it) is 100 kilograms-of this I am certain. You reminded me of a word from my youth so I commented.

there once was a young man named Cody
who ingested rather too much peyote
after wrecking his house
and terrifying his spouse
He said, "I shoulda stuck with wine spodey-odey"

Sick,

You're sick all right.

AC writes:

"....Patsi, it's that "hate" thing and becoming ubiquitous-for some nothing is out of bounds. I believe it was Champ that referred to something like "group think" or people (if you can call them that) who are influenced by their immediate crowd--something like that. It's unconscionable. "

II agree

xrepublican, first of all what are you referring to and who do you want to incinerate now?

I'd pass on the hit of peyote
in favor of pie a la modey

Farewell to the Penguin. Guess his end

http://www.comcast.net/articles/entertainment/20081008/People.Berkeley.Breathed/

Obama’s Communist Mentor

http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-communist-mentor/

AC

Today Chris Matthews was referring to four political groups but he kept saying "the fourth quintile". He was making me crazier than usual.

Cheney didn't kick any bad ass. He went after the good people who tried to expose the bad ones. Hell, he went after his own hunting buddy.

What will be accomplished if the bad guys are bailed out and no one pays for it except those of us who have worked hard to try and prepare for our old age. How will anything ever change.

You are actually better off if you wasted all the money you ever made than if you sacrificed to save. I am now sitting in the same place with my reckless friends who threw caution to the wind. Those friends are laughing at me now.

"Here are a few tidbits that you may not find on today’s Internet…" about Barack Obama
http://theindependentview.com/?p=257 "

Obama was an active member of the now-defunct socialist New Party! “Chicago DSA is affiliated with the national Democratic Socialists of America.” From October 1996: “Three NP-members won Democratic primaries last Spring and face off against Republican opponents on election day: Danny Davis (U.S. House), Barack Obama (State Senate) and Patricia Martin (Cook County Judiciary).” November 2006: “New Party member Barack Obama was uncontested for a State Senate seat from Chicago.” [More to follow in separate post, such as Obama's ideas on social wages and redistribution of wealth.---Matthew]

Jamie,

I think the song is "Shine". I have one of the several Louis Armstrong renditions. It is a wonderful song:

Just because my hair is curly,
And just because my teeth are pearly;
Just because I always wear a smile,
And I'm dressed up in the latest style;
'cause I'm glad I'm living,
And take my troubles all in stride,
(trumpet flourish)
That's why they call me Shine.

In "To Have and Have Not", Hoagy Carmichael plays another piece that people have objected to. However, I can't seem to remember the title, and a few of the words. You can correct me if I err. I think it goes:

"Here's the story of a very unfortunate colored man,
who was arrested down in old Hong Hong.
He lost plenty of personal priviledges,
when he kicked old Buddha's bong."

Jamie, Chris Matthews drove me crazy a long time ago. Had I been aware of that I would not have interjected. Nonetheless glad to be reminded of "words from my youth"

U.S. May Take Ownership Stake in Banks

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/business/economy/09econ.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/mccains-that-one-moment.html#comment-156651

Bowman, We are in agreement for a change. There is a form that you can have on file with your primary care physician, you local hospital, plus a copy for your records. It acts as a medical "living will" and states exactly what treatment you authorize under various circumstances ranging from everything under the sun to leave me alone.

It tells them when to use feeding tubes, when to resuscitate, when to transfer to a hospice etc.

Everyone really should ask their doctor for one as most offices have them on hand.

Sturg

I wonder what yall'd do if you ran into a REAL racist..

During the 68 riots in camp lejune i had to sleep in a diff bunk for a week,some navy guy that was passing thru was given my regular bunk to sleep in, he was stabbed in the leg.Take it from me hate is very real, this why I say the truth, and education of real history. is what is needed, like i said i hope obama has that conversation he promised?

Obama is Hiding a Radical Past!

"Did you know that Barack Obama was affiliated with a leading national socialist party? Barack Obama didn’t include in his 2008 resume that he entered politics in the mid-1990s endorsed by Chicago’s leading socialists. This just keeps getting better and better. Barack Obama was an active participant in the 1990s, and a direct political beneficiary, of the Chicago New Party and, importantly, the Chicago DSA, a group of socialists affiliated with the Democratic Socialists of America."

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/07/obama-is-hiding-a-radical-past/

passages,

Who is Mathew J. weaver that we should care?

Just a blogger out for his own interest. BFD

Who would have thought that George Bush was going to be the vehicle by which socialism came to America, ah irony.

Err Gordo

No politician is responsible for the groups that endorse them. The KKK probably likes McCain. That doesn't make him a member.

My sister shared this from the Course in Miracles,

From Lesson 53:

" I am upset because I see a meaningless world. Insane thoughts are upsetting. They produce a world in which there is no order anywhere. Only chaos rules a world that represents chaotic thinking, and chaos has no laws. I cannot live in peace in such a world. I am grateful that this world is not real, and that I need not see it at all unless I choose to value it. And I do not choose to value what is totally insane and has no meaning."

"My thoughts are images that I have made. Whatever I see reflects my thoughts. It is my thoughts that tell me where I am and what I am. The fact that I see a world in which there is suffering and loss and death shows me that I am seeing only the representation of my insane thoughts, and am not allowing my real thoughts to cast their beneficent light on what I see. Yet God's way is sure. The images I have made cannot prevail against Him because it is not my will that they do so. My will is His and I will place no other Gods before Him."

It was a nice try but I still can't get there yet.

Jamie, don't scare me like that!

Farewell to The Penguin?

I thought you meant Ron Cey!

solar.....yep......spent the 68 riots in charleston, and the 69 riots in memphis.......gnarly affairs they were.....I really detested the memphis one because we were banned from going down to beale street.......

Every time I see Cindy McCain say "sent a cold chill through my body" I ask myself, how would she know the difference.

Archives prove Obama was a New Party member

"Another piece in the puzzle of Barack Obama has been revealed, greatly strengthening the picture of a man groomed by an older generation of radical leftists for insertion into the American political process, trading on good looks, brains, educational pedigree, and the desire of the vast majority of the voting public to right the historical racial wrongs of the land.

The New Party was a radical left organization, established in 1992, to amalgamate far left groups and push the United States into socialism by forcing the Democratic Party to the left."

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/10/archives_prove_obama_was_a_new.html

passages,

When I encountered the New Party, back in 1993 in MN, while working on a political campaign, they were not Socialists, but rather vegetarians and naive tree-huggers. Most of them were merchants, who sold organic clothing, organic jewelry, or organic publications or employees of non-profit corporations.

I think the klan thinks mccain is a liberal

WASHINGTON — A draft report by American intelligence agencies concludes that Afghanistan is in a “downward spiral” and casts serious doubt on the ability of the Afghan government to stem the rise in the Taliban’s influence there, according to American officials familiar with the document.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/world/asia/09afghan.html?hp

Gee I seem to recall someone warning us this is exactly what was going to happen. Now let me think who was it that warned us Afghanistan was spiraling out of control. Oh yeah, Barack Obama, that's who.

From TD blog
------------------

"It’s 1981, New York City. Barack Obama is residing two blocks away from Weather Underground leader William Ayers. We know very little about Obama’s life in NYC during that period; supposedly he transferred from Occidental College and completed undergraduate studies at Columbia University. Obama’s academic records and, in fact, the records of his life from those years in New York are lost.

At Occidental, Obama belonged to Students for Economic Democracy (SED), a radical socialist “cousin” organization to Students for a Democratic Society (SDS), of which the Weather Underground was an off-shoot. Did Obama continue his SED membership at Columbia?"

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/10/07/1981-new-york-city-just-a-bizarre-coincidence/

saw hitchens on tv the other day.....he advocated dropping the extremely demented war on drugs and buying the poppy crop in afghanistan for use in pain killers etc (as we currently buy from turkey) and if not to use in pain killers, then buy it and destroy it, but as it is now, the poppy crop is growing by leaps and bounds and the money from it goes to the taliban and al qaeda...........that's what hitchens says, not me.

Sturg

I could handle the violent ones, it was the ones that came from unexpected people that put little cracks in my heart.

True hatred-------read a book that was made in a movie called White Dog, Grandfather walks with his 8-10 yr old grandson, with a little white german shepard, when he sees a black man ( sick and drugged) he gives him some $ and a bottle of booze, the black man then turns and whips the little puppy half to death, while the little grandson is looking on. This goes on until the puppy is now a pisssed off 160 lb beast, they let it loose in a black neighborhood, this is real real hate it was from a true story, they tried to break the dog, but could not, I always wondered what happened to that little boy?

GORDO you don't have to worry Obama being a socialist, by Jan 20th there may be nothing left to socialize.

xr
You are right. The song is "Shine". The song you might be thinking of is just referred to as "The Bar Song" in the movie. Couldn't find an actual title doing a search, but here is the clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COTS_7VImW8

sturgeone,

What misery, to be in Memphis, and not allowed to go to Beale Street. It would be like going to Paris and forbidden to eat.

I grew up on Armstrong, Handy, Calloway, Ellington, Ink Spots, Ella, 'Jelly Roll', Teagarden.

My youthful rebellion involved buying and playing Thelonius Sphere Monk, Oscar Brown Jr., Dave Brubeck, Miles Davis, and in '64, Bob Dylan.

The Dylan records drove my Dad nuts. He and my mother had seen him play at the old Purple Onion around 1961 rehashing old folk songs. Nothing special - yet. At the time, Dylan was living in St. Paul, about a block from us, with a family named Kegan. One of the Kegan boys was paralyzed from a dive into shallow water, and young Bobbie Zimmerman was devoted to him. Anyway, I just knew him as a young guy walking around the neighborhood, staying at a schoolmates place, and whose music my Dad disdained.

Thanks Jamie !

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/mccains-that-one-moment.html#comment-156675

Corey, Don't be petty. We are talking about life without OPUS ...........Wahhhhhhhhhhhh

dylan always seemed to make good choices along the way.......he told the story in CHRONICLES about being introduced by joan baez to john wayne while visiting a movie set. Bob happens to be carrying his guitar with him for some reason, and baez tells wayne that bob's a "folk singer", a group not particularly high in wayne's esteem..........wayne says, "So why dont you sing me something, boy" or something sarcastic like that....and bob, instead of getting huffy or telling him to F off, merely breaks out his guitar and sings one right there on the movie set......one that I figure was the kind which wayne's mother probably sang to him when he was little, cause old wayne got a tear in his eye and bob had a new fan. If I remember aright.

Miles........my candidate for new god:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTfBpKzu6XA

I know he's dead, but if he wins the race for new god he'd probably come back.

Jamie, I got through without Far Side. Didn't think I would, but I did.

corey.......the loss of the far side is a wound that won't heal.................

Homer Simpson looking at a Far Side calender or book:

"I don't get it. I don't get it. I don't get it."

but before there was the Far Side.........there was Kliban.

http://cybergata.com/kliban.htm

Homer........lol

Michelle Obama on the Daily Show.

Good Night All

GORDO,

Did you know that BENEDICT XVI was in a NAZI YOUTH GROUP ? Did you know that BENEDICT XVI grew up in the center of the NAZI EMPIRE ? Did you know that his REAL NAME is RATZINGER, and that he attended NAZI SCHOOLS ?

Did you know that GEORGE W BUSH disappeared from duty with the Alabama Air Guard to pursue politics, at approximately the same time as the 1972 ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT ON GEORGE WALLACE in Maryland. Did you know that the records of GEORGE W BUSH's separation fron the Alabama air guard have been LOST UNDER SUSPICIOUS CIRCUMSTANCES ? Did you know that BUSH'S ACCOMPLICE, DICK CHENEY WILL STOP AT NOTHING AND EVEN SHOT HIS BEST FRIEND ?

Did you know that JOHN MCCAIN made propaganda film for the NORTH VIETNAM COMMUNISTS ? MCCAIN may still be a COMMIE, 'cuz he has visited there several times since he made his ANTI-AMERICAN, PRO-COMMIE film, perhaps to DE-BRIEF with his COMMIE SPYMASTER HANDLER.

NORTH VIETNAM COMMUNISTS have been quoted as saying they hope that MCCAIN wins the election.

I hope that my little lampoons haven't hurt the tender feelings of any sensitive, bleeding heart, conservatives.

Anyway, GORDO, I am certainly glad that you no longer pretend to be a Clinton supporter.

It's getting late. If I am to pick on republicans the way they deserve, I need to rest up for the task.

I leave you all with this message from a New Yorker cartoon, if I remember correctly:

Repent
If you have already repented, please disregard this message.

xr,

The G Man only cares about facts that fit his needs.

There is no hope for the middle east~~~~~~~~~~~
Lebanon is preparing the ground for a new war with Israel - a food war - and it is all about hummus.

To you or I, that is the chickpea paste you buy in tubs in the supermarket as an exotic addition to salads.

Essentially it is just chickpeas, sesame paste, olive oil, lemon juice and garlic.

But to people in the Middle East it is more than just a food, much more. It is something that engenders deep loyalties and fierce debate, about how and where it is made.

People here can argue forever about who makes the best hummus with the same kind of religious fervour British people reserve for football teams.

So in opening up the hummus debate, the Lebanese are playing with fire and they are not mincing their words.

"'It is not enough the Israelis are stealing our land," said Faid Abboud, President of the Lebanese Industrialists Association. "They are also stealing our civilization and cuisine."
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Hummus-Is-New-Battle-Ground-In-Lebanon/Article/200810215116157

Looks like McCain's on life support in MN.

http://www.startribune.com/politics/30559944.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiUX

"There ought to be limits to freedom."
-- George W. Bush, May 21, 1999

In honor of Berkley Breathed...Don't Blame Me, I voted for Bill and Opus...

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc167/Kittysquared/btcforpres.jpg

Rez if things don't break for McCain (yeah right) by week's end the only swing state left will be Indiana.

LOL, Mornin Joe just said it's too late for McCain while on Colbert.

Boy Michelle is really knocking it out of the park on Larry King tonight.

Curtains.

Hitting the hay later. :-) Our prime timeTV is just starting.

http://www.celebrity-link.com/birthday_day-9_month-10.html

Dylan's third season premiered yesterday on SiriusXM Radio .
It's on all day Wednesdays starting at midnight..."money" is the topic for the first two weeks...hear a sample here:

http://www.xmradio.com/bobdylan/

Anyone locate a link to purchase a reported Obama Tee Shirt featuring "That One" and "08?" That one I'd buy...(pun intended)

No need to believe Craig or Obama supporters about whether or not Mccain is counting on racist votes, just listen to the people at mccain's rallys:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjxzmaXAg9E

Good op/ed in the WaPo today, re the no-answer-answers in the debate:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/08/AR2008100802929.html

It is the late Jacques Tati's 101st birthday today.
He was a premier maker of social satire films, and a sight gag genius.
Look for his movies:

The Big Day (Fete d'Jour)
Mr. Hulot's Holiday
My Uncle
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Sturge - thanks for the links to Grapelli & Reinhart. I forwarded them to my nephew and think I might have solidified my standing as his favorite aunt.

If we stole Mexico, it was from Spain. California was originally land inhabited by Indians, or Native Americans. 'Mexico' was stolen from Indians by the Spanish who treated that vast area as a colony. It was never truly ruled by 'Mexicans' because there were only Spaniards and Indians. Granted we butted in and took over land that had been lived on from ancient times, and they were certainly not Mexicans or Spaniards - but what else is new? We moved in and took over, as people have been doing since before recorded time.

To say we stole from a country that was basically a colony of just another colonial European power is, to me, a dreamy view of history.

I'm by no means defending western treatment of Native Americans - god knows it isn't pretty or pleasant.
But I don't think Spain's treatment of the New World deserves defense. Spain wanted money from the New World, and by god, they took it and left messes behind.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/mccains-that-one-moment.html#comment-156723

Thanks, Dog's Eye!