Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

A question for Liberals.

If paying higher taxes is the correct thing so to fund your favorite social program(s), then why do Liberals complain when they learn they will not be receiving a tax refund? Or should they receive a tax refund, why do they accept it, why not sign it back over to treasury, or assign it over to some charity?

"It's a sad state of affairs when a race gets so lopsided"

Craig I think we define "sad state of affairs" differently!

The local television anchor asked if Obama was a Marxist.

Joe rightfully asked if she was joking.

I wouldn't go back either. Those are Fox News tactics.

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Jack----OSH-----made a large pot of this, and froze in 4 diff containers, goes a long way, a very cheap,but very good imo.

single recipe----Round meat ( pot roast) and 1-2 large soup bones

2 lbs meat, that you wash and place in a pot with cilantro, 1 large onion, 1-3 tomatoes, salt to taste, let simmer till meats is tender,them you put in vegies, 2-3 large zuchinni, i cut them up in round slices, 3 large corn on the cob cut in 1/2, carrots, and cabbage ( jack is right make you soups fresh and crunchy sliced cabbage is the ticket) you can eat this (mexican style soup) with rice and lemons, or with out that i like.the trick of it is the water i use about 1/4-to 1/3 gal.

Mexican rice.....my way

1 large cup of brown rice----don't like the starch in white, open up one can of corn, one can of peas and drain fluid do not throw away put in an other cup, dice 1 large onion, dice 1 large tomato or 2, a little cilantro, and a little tomato sauce (i use a little salsa) about 2-3 large spoons and set aside-------put in a frying pan little oil,,any then put in the rice-----hey where you going,,,,,,watch that rice it cooks fast,,,don't make me come over there,,,,,turn the rice over and over until it gets a little brown, then put in the 3 spoons of salsa of sauce, keep turning the rice until it stops sizzling then put in the liquid from the corn and the peas and 2 more cups of water. then add all the rest of,,,cover on low heat until all water evaporates,,,,,,,you can put this in the soup above or like do with any other meal---i like it with fish.

both are very cheap and goes a long way----hope you like it

Posted by: SolarCrete Author Profile Page | October 26, 2008 1:11 PM

oh heck, new thread. and just when i was working up a diatribe to bruce the naif about his "...uncontrolled Republican fiscal policy, a policy built on greed and nothing but greed" that we dems can be just as greedy as them reps... and just as uncontrolled too!

Exactly Paul, I saw the interview, it was a joke. And BTW Craig where was your outrage when Joe Klein was banned from the McCain plane, and if memory serves right he's not the only one.

Joe Klein Banned From McCain Plane

http://gawker.com/5066273/joe-klein-banned-from-mccain-plane

Stone age man was the most or one of the most successful of 9 hominids that lived----a little herb aint all bad

i think that they were the first to coin the phrase-----Sup dude----or sup rez :)

Solar- Thanks for the recipes!! Will definitely make the soup this week. What do you have on the side with it? Any interest in a recipe for the best apple crisp you'll ever have?

"It's a sad state of affairs when a race gets so lopsided that only the candidate who probably won't win bothers to answer tough media questions."

It's too bad the media never asked the tough questions back when it made a difference. Now it's too late. We'll just have to wait and see.

Craig, you didn't really think anything was going to change at this point anyway, did you?

Solar- what is your favorite hot sauce? Favorite salsa?

"Any interest in a recipe for the best apple crisp you'll ever have?"

Sea, Yes! Share it.

Patd--thanks for the heads up on the new thread,

it has happened quite a few times, and i felt lost in the begging, if i didn't know better i would think that Craig did it on purpose,,,but i do

On this thread---all i can say it's about time the R;s are in this position,,,,,it did not feel good when Gore and Kerry did the last minn. shuffle

both obama and biden respond to, and effectively mock, the Marx-Socialist stuff in their speeches. if it's worth including in their stump scripts, why is it off limits to be asked about it?

I guess for the same reason Joe Klein was kicked off the McCain plane for asking questions about Iraq.

OSH

Need recipe immediately. I'm into the holiday food recipes on my blog. All contributions welcome

Actually that's not true, Klein asks intelligent important questions, that idiot asked an amazingly stupid question of Biden and was treated accordingly.

As far as Socialism goes, I like the 8 hour day, 40 hour week, two weeks vacation a year, seven holidays, social security, disability, cost of living raises etc. Now if we could only get universal health care 60 years after the rest of the Western world ...

OSH--once again the Whiskey guy was right on valentine,,,but only a few drops for the flavor,,one large bottle lasts for 6 mos. or more

Salsa------when i can't steal it from my bro the decan's restaurant i but a cheap ( thick ) salsa from cost-co, them when ever i make steak and eggs for myself i let the steak stick to the bottom of the frying pan put in some of the salsa and a little water, it tastes very good and stretches the amount of salsa, that is why i look for the thick one, and it doesn;t have to be eaten so fast like homemade ones cos of no preservative

Patd-----yeah i like to cook but not clean up,,,my wife the little italiano a (moji) croation in self defense cooks all the same stuff that i do, so i don't mind cleaning so much nnow-------now cutting the grass is another story-----she complained severall time how i cut it,,, one or two little skirmishes about it, then i turned over the lawn mower to her--------i haven't cut the grass more that 10-12 times in 10-12 year haha

"both obama and biden respond to, and effectively mock, the Marx-Socialist stuff in their speeches. if it's worth including in their stump scripts, why is it off limits to be asked about it?"

Craig, that's what one must do if you want to be seen as standing up to Fox in a contested market.

I don't know why they didn't just buy the station, use it for infomercials up through election day, and then sell it. Goodness knows they have the cash to do it--and it would add meaning to charges that they've bought the election.

Sad affair when the Obama Campaign applies selective censorship – but very Gibb and smart ! After all stay in control and do not let good questions get asked - that only a month ago could be the difference.

The Barbara West questions you refer to where fair and I do not understand why Bidden got so crotchety and testy. If he had a good answer then Barbara gave him what is really a soft ball pitch that he should have hit out of the park.

How could Joe Biden be that unprepared? What an arrogant response – Joe the home depot guy – get real

But NO! Biden knows that it was a fair question that deserves a thoughtful answer. Biden blew a chance in this market to win over some Independents – But hey I guess they do not think they need more.

And Craig – is it the WFTV is banned or that they need to put a collar on Joe!

OSH---forgot, I don't have anything on the side with the soup,, its a full meal---what i do is have 4-6 corn tortillias and make a taco or 2 from the meat pour a little salsa and eat it,,,bu i think that you would enjoy putting a little rice in the bottom of the bowl, and have that with your soup

joe klein wrote a salacious novel about a candidate he covered and then lied about it -- but i still don't think he should have been banned -- just goes to show that the left and right are no different when it comes to muzzling the press when it suits them

Brian - To me it was as much Joe Biden true elitist’s arrogant self – what a jerk. Then in staged interviews he is the hang out at home depot and Lowes kinda guy - More campaign facade.

Be careful what you buy

I wonder if Barack is having buyer’s remorse. To get to know the real Joe B is very disappointing.

But hey maybe you like the jerk style of operation?

If Barack is really who he says then he should shun Joe not the Free press of the station

"The Barbara West questions you refer to where fair "

Oh come on Ping,

She did nothing but parrot right wing talking points. They were grandstanding conservative drivel and could have been asked by a pull the string Ann Coulter doll ... totally brain dead newsreading blond bimbo.

If they are expected to answer legitimate conservative questions at least get someone to ask them who sounds as if they might have gotten past the fourth grade.

Yes Pong I'm sure as we get closer to Nov 4 your disdain for both Obama and Biden will become more evident.

Oh and just for the record, I don't like it when liberal types ask loaded left wing questions laden with slanted adjectives. It is equally stupid.

craig, were you referring to "primary colors"?

"Anchorage Daily News endorses Obama"

*loud applause & some Schadenfreude*

tt

"Klein asks intelligent important questions"

The same Joe Klein who mocked Al Gore in 2000?

yes, patd

Brain – Disdain Yes - Only for arrogant behavior that Biden demonstrated.
(go back and find any personal attack from me to Obama? no way - I do however disagre with his policy)

He was out of line, maybe he did not get enough sleep – or he has true disdain for us Southern people?

And yes her question could have been better prepared to get to the point – but he should have been prepared as the questions are out there.

She should have rasied the same concern but using my language.

Sen Biden – Are you not concerned that a continued drive to allow social policy to override sound fiscal policy will only continue the damage to our economy, That this continued failure to abide by the fundamentals of our economic system is the wrong direction?

Sen Biden – How will you pay for the excessive spending that Barack is proposing.

Now these questions DEMAND an answer – so yes Barbara blew it and allowed him off the hook with no follow up.

Slavery can come in a number of different forms. One can be a slave to your work, to someone, to a substances, food, religion almost anything. In most cases you would not to be a slave to anything or anyone, but there are ways to make one a slave without them even becoming aware of it. Drug dealers and pimps are great at making individuals into slaves. The promises of money, glamor, love, affection, belonging, the allure of happiness, euphoric bless, a way of making your troubles disappear is more than some people can turn away from. If you were to tell these people such promises are filled with deceitful lies, and what very well may happen is a life full of misery and despair, they probably wouldn't believe you. More than likely they would tell you they are a much stronger person than that, "I know when to quit.", but as we all know that is rarely ever the case.

Obama has figured out a way to make you believe your life is going to be so much better under his leadership. Through is charismatic charm, articulate speeches, youthful appearance, Obama has promised to give away $100's of billion to everyone, well not everyone the so-called rich won't be seeing any benefits, create millions of jobs, life is going to be good under his rule. He has made so many promises of free money, and has proposed so many new opportunities that it is very enticing and hard not to fall victim to this scheme. Who is going to turn down free, free anything, especially when the country is going through a tough economic crisis? And the longer we receive the free whatevers, the more we think it is do us. After period of time has gone by and you are still receiving the free give aways, your mind will be convinced that you actually did something to deserve it, you earned this free gift. When this happens you have unintentionally become a slave to a government who's only hold over you is promises of more free stuff to come. But when the free promises don't show up or they get cut off unexpectedly, prematurely, the one who made all the promises has his own problems. Obama's problems have started before he has even become President, how does he fulfill all the promises? The voters are believing the free stuff will start arriving shortly after he is crowned president, but it will take many years even with a Democrat Congress, as it takes years to build re-tool plants, become energy independent, place social programs into operation, and voters may not be very patient with person who has promised them so much and is slow to deliver.

Then too there is always Iraq and Afghanistan. I would not be very surprised to learn we are not only withdrawing our troops from Iraq, but forfeiting on our commitments in Afghanistan. Is this what Joe Biden meant when he said, "Mark my words. It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We’re about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don’t remember anything else I said. Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy. And he’s gonna have to make some really tough decisions, I don’t know what the decision’s gonna be, but I promise you it will occur. As a student of history, and having served with seven presidents, I guarantee you it’s gonna happen."

Jamie -- Ouch

Barbara is acutally a very nice person that maybe was not prepared for such a response. They both, Barbara and Joe have a responsibility - then they both blew it.. But please Bimbo? You do not know her

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/mccains-exit-interviews.html#comment-164005

Ping,
"so yes Barbara blew it and allowed him off the hook with no
follow up."

I wouldn't be so hard on her, at least she had the balls to ask. Something none of the so-called male news reporters would dare ask old Joe. So lets give Barbara a pat on the back for getting Joe's hair plugs frizz-up a bit, maybe just maybe this will cause some of the male news report to grow a set in the very short time that remains.

Solar- Something we all agree on - Cholula! I guess we use too much, we go through a bottle about every month. I'm going with the corn tortillas, that sounds fabulous.

Apple Crisp- for a happy home filled with love
8? baking apples( cortland, granny smith, northern spy are imo the best, but hard to find) - peeled and cut up- enough to nicely fill a 9 in. pie pan or 9 in. casserole
Mix together :
1 cup flour
1 cup sugar
1 tsp. cinnamon

Quickly beat 1 egg and add to mixture- don't worry it doesn't blend thoroughly
Cover apples with mixture.
Melt 1 stick butter and pour over mixture.
Bake at 350 for 35 to 45 minutes. You'll know when its done- nice color , crispy parts, mmh. Enjoy

hope you like it Jamie. I have a recipe I cook on Christmas Eve- Fruites de la Mer, good and simple if you would like.

Biden was no way out of line, and you need to find a new mantra Pong, we've had this same conversation about a thousand times.

If we stop the wars & giving money to other nations, and if we stop redistributing the wealth to the wealthy like Bush just did to Wall Street and big banking, we'll do just fine with funding middle class American proposals.

Ya know, Bush is a socialist. He just socialized Wall Street and big banks.

tt

Jamie -- I've got some amazing holiday recipes that I stole from my sister -- I'll try to put some together for you!

Anslem----I just love what u said

Slavery can come in a number of different forms. One can be a slave to your work, to someone, to a substances, food, religion almost anything. In most cases you would not to be a slave to anything or anyone, but there are ways to make one a slave without them even becoming aware of it. Drug dealers and pimps are great at making individuals into slaves. The promises of money, glamor, love, affection, belonging, the allure of happiness, euphoric bless, a way of making your troubles disappear is more than some people can turn away from. If you were to tell these people such promises are filled with deceitful lies, and what very well may happen is a life full of misery and despair, they probably wouldn't believe you. More than likely they would tell you they are a much stronger person than that, "I know when to quit.", but as we all know that is rarely ever the case.

You have just described the Reagan-bush-cheney era much better that anyone here so far,,,,,its you story and im stickin u with it,,,,you r a nice guy but,,,,,you have to be a little bit of a slave not to see what a blind man can see-----you guys had it all a fucked it up,,,that about says it all for me,i know i know-----bill C got a B J from monica-----that all you guys have u know

Jamie,
"Oh and just for the record, I don't like it when liberal types ask loaded left wing questions laden with slanted adjectives. It is equally stupid."

Really? And when was the last time you ever voice your displeasure with the mongrels who make-up the Liberal news media. Where were you on CNN's Drew Griffin's total distortion of Bryon York's' report in the National Reviews regarding Sarah Palin.

Griffin: "The National Review" had a story saying that, you know, I can't tell if Sarah Palin is "incompetent, stupid, unqualified, corrupt, or all of the above."

Oh, and for all the clothes police....evidently Palin has been thugged into going back to her own wardrobe.

So let me get this straight Joe Klein was thrown off the McCain plane for a book he wrote in 1996? Is that correct?

Patsi, do you wear your own wardrobe?

tt

SolarCrete,

Good, then prepare for higher taxes, as Obama's freebie give away administration will be coming to you in the form of pay higher taxes. But you could beat them at their own game, all you have to do is cough up some more of your tax dollars. Obama will thank you for it.

Joe Klein was thrown off the McCain plane for a book he wrote in 1996?

Did Joe had a parachute? I hope he had time to read the owners manual on the way down.

OSH

A real depression era dish, as told to me by my mother. No doubt to remind me there worse meals than the one before me.

Fried bread dough and water gravy

Ingredients
flour
grease
water
salt
sour dough starter.

Mix flour , salt, water and sour dough starter and set the dough aside to work. After it raises push it back down then let it raise again.

heat a skillet and add enough grease to coat the bottom of the skillet form the dough into ball the size of walnuts. Flatten the ball and put in the heated skillet. let brown the flip over and brown on the other side.

For the gravy add grease to the skillet add enough flour to make a thick paste cook for a few min. then add water bring to a boil and cook until thick.

To serve pour gravy over the bread.

Jack

Interesting NPR article on the GOP after Bush:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=95968435

Anselm

You weren't around during the primaries around here. Admitedly I was defending Clinton but it was because of the gross slanting by the media that was just brutal to her because of backing Obama.

My politics tend to be moderate moving left and right of center depending on the issue. If I had seen the the news item you mention, I would probably mention it.

Now I do think that Palin is totally unprepared to be VP and while the humor and satire have been pretty rough, I don't think that the majority of the questions she has been asked that I have seen have been out of line. Certainly the Couric interview wasn't all that difficult for anyone who knew anything about the job she is seeking.

Ping

You are right. I apologize for the "bimbo". Let's go with lightweight.

Anslem

it is very simple for me-----i won't go back and forth about the details of this or that------in this case it is not needed,it is not a hidden fact that the tax cuts have not helped me, or anyone else----the tax cut that were given to me was just sucked up by,higher food prices, higher gas, etc etc, and as a small buz corp. i have very little work-----thank u mr. Capitalist all the time-----now a would like to get fu---d by someone a little diff the D's, i don't thin that there is very much diff between the two-----but maybe i can get a little kiss along the way-----bush did not even whisper in my ear---he just molested me along with you,,,but u go ahead and pretend

Interesting events.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D942BBS00&show_article=1

Sunday 538 numbers

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/

349.9 Obama

ET still closest at 349.

"Patsi, do you wear your own wardrobe?"

As a matter of fact I do, tt -- and were I running for public office I would have to borrow money to keep from being ridiculed by a bunch of fools about my cheap wardrobe.

Disdain should be reserved for the men and women of the Republican Party that broke our country. How do we fix it? We can't turn on the GOP and say, "You broke it, you bought it." They have been looting our society since January, 20, 1981, the blackest day in American history.

The apple crisp looks good. My aunt Ruth would substitute oatmeal for some of the flour and maybe even add more her apple crisp was very oat meal. Made a great breakfast dish with cold milk..

Jack

Jamie,

As usual you didn't answer the question. And you wonder why I think you are a LLIL.. OK I'll drop the Lilywhite "L" Maybe you are just an LIL.

A clothing story. http://tinyurl.com/pantsuitdiva

OOps

US attack in Syria

Anselm

You are the one who set up the straw man argument. I didn't see the event you described so I could hardly respond to it.

Cost of living raises? Haven't seen those in about 4-5 years. They told us it was in the budget this year, we never got them.

Patsi,

Thanks. I'll take all the recipes I can get. This time of year, I do a lot of gifting with food of various kinds as well as putting them on the blog.

Maureen Dowd Reacts to Being Tossed From McCain Plane

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/101130/

Craig, any comment?

OSH

My email is webthings@comcast.net

I'll take any recipes anyone wants to send along

SolarCrete

Well then you should have no problem when the Bush tax cuts expire. Funny most people I know who are married saw their taxes lowered while Bush was in office. Marriage penalty tax ring a bell? But you being a big fan of higher taxes will embrace seeing this slip underneath the waves.

It's a sad state of affairs when the election gets so lopsided that the losing campaign leaves a columnist stranded at an airport hotel because they didn't like something she wrote.

Disdain should be reserved for the men and women of the Republican Party that broke our country. How do we fix it? We can't turn on the GOP and say, "You broke it, you bought it." They have been looting our society since January, 20, 1981, the blackest day in American history.

While i whole heartedly agree with this sentiment,,,,it works ok until the R's have the power again, and then the same thoughts towards the D,s are voiced------us guys in the middle are getting it from the right and the left,,,,i hope that obama reaches out his hand like he said-----i doubt it with all the favors that he owes to the same corps that got us here in the first place,,,,team mentality, greed, and f u i got mine.thanks,

Wow Jack, that's quite a meal! When I asked for a recession proof recipe, I was thinking maybe something a little less authentic! My mother grew up on lard and bread dipped in chicory, if there was no squirrel, rabbit or deer. She's been thinking a lot about those times the last few weeks. Oranges and nuts were their Christmas presents, walking the tracks for coal. I'm so proud of my parents, they really are the greatest generation aren't they?

Reporters barred, by Secret Service, from interviewing people at Palin rallies

http://mediamatters.org/countyfair/200810170004?show=1

It's a sad state of affairs when a campaign uses the Secret Service to manage their press access.

It is a sad state of affairs , Craig, when you aren't drinking the proper flavor of Koolaid.

Jack

Next thing you'll hear: McCain Throws Momma From The Train!

What's the best way for the Repubs to destroy the Dem Party? Allow SoetorObama to win. After he is in office, the Repubs would suddenly discover (they had the info long before election day) documents which prove with 100% certainty that he is Constitutionally ineligible. The Repubs would demand that SoetorObama resign along with all the other Dems who have gone along with the fraud. But that's not all, the Repubs would then want all the Dems involved in this scheme to be prosecuted and sent to prison. If SoetorObama did not follow the proper procedure after returning to the US from Indonesia, he is an "illegal" alien. After serving a long prison sentence, he would be deported.

This scenario allows the Repubs to avoid dealing the "mess" the country is facing. In two years, the Repubs would take over the House and Senate with huge majorities and in four years easily win the Presidency.

Jamie,

And you host a blog? Very simple, even for a LIL. lol Here is a hint. Try Google, "CNN griffin palin" . Always convenient to use the old Ostrich symptom when confronted with facts we rather not see.

I'll be glad to check it out Anselm. I'll let you know what I think of the questins. I have never avoided hearing the other side of any argument, despite your constant rudeness, disdain, and invective.

Great. We've bombed a Syrian village.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct/26/syria-iraq-helicopter-attack

Maureen Dowd Reacts to Being Tossed From McCain Plane

Please say it ain't so. Not the do nothing diva of the so to be extinct NYT. With any luck Frank Rich can't be far behind.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/mccains-exit-interviews.html#comment-164066

Now that is as funny as some of the stuff Brian has been posting today. You know we don't usually get this type of right winger here. The place is over run with the left wing variety.

LOL a good one

Jack

Brain - Maybe a thousand times I have asked - but no response? Why?

Still no answers to many of my questions.

I guess like Joe Biden might say or think. I am not worthy?

Anslem:

You know what rings a bell for me is-----Savings and loans fiasco of bush41, Reagans tax on the middle class working class---the tax on unemployment checks,,,its a tax no matter how y spin it, black water dick fu---n cheney. enron,black water,this bail out,,,are u blind or ? what bush did to the constitution, and much more,,,my only hope now is that now that the D's have seen how its done , they will put their twist to it and fu---k some more, after all u 2 are in competition.

I'm in on this thread late, but I can just imagine how Mc would have responded if a televised, supposedly 'serious' newsperson asked him if he really fathered a part black child out of wedlock.

Chloe said it all---when the media had the opportunity to ask tough questions--they didn't.. Kind of late now.Although once Obama's elected and the media continues to be denied access to him, they'll begin to turn. There's huge gaps in this guy's biography and I suspect there will be a great deal of buyer's remorse once the curtain is pulled back.

Rosie- that question is not even close. No comparison. way off

Ah I am getting an answer by the behavior and Words Just Words of Barack - he is moving his agenda towards mine !!!

No that says something

Jack, I find the one-sided posting scarier than the fighting on Friday. Besides, if I was a candidate, I wouldn't do what McCain did to Dowd. I'd get the reporter on the plane and up in the air and then hand them a parachute and say, "This is where you get off."

that should be not that the D's won't do the same to us as the R's

I've told you repeatedly Pong, I don't accept your basic premise. It's your party that ignore fiscal prudence to further their social cause, making the rich richer and screwing the poor.

Anselm......I can only suppose that you will be as miserable for the next 8 years and the democrats have been for the last 8 years.......

too bad............( lol )

LOL

Corey that is just mean. But now that I think about it............
I do have this little list.

Jack

that's "as" the democrats....etc but you probably got the gist, anyway........

Poor Maureen.

I don't think I'd let anybody from the Times on my plane if they did a number on Stinky like they did on Ms McCain.

corey.......what? no cost of living raise? damn, I guess you shoulda put on those 3 little pieces of tape on the doors afterall..........

Ok, fair enough. But I guess my point is that it is still just one of nasty little tricks out of Rove's playbook that shouldn't have anymore consideration than some of the alligations made by some of the more...ah, imaginative posters. I mean she might as well asked him if it was true he ate puppies.

Jack, I know a guy on the internet and people used to joke that he had a "to-be-killed" list. Not that he really did, mind you.

Anselm

I watched Part 1 of the Griffin Palin interview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCyyIrWs73M

None of the questions were out of line. In fact, she sounded better than any other interview I've seen of her. She held her ground well, presented the conservative case, and while her answers didn't have a lot of depth, they were coherant and forceful.

Did something go horribly wront in part 2? I haven't watched it yet.

OK Brian - back it up beyond just a liberal talking point ....

My point is backed up - the balance sheets are shifted and a priamry cause was the failure to keep the fundamentals and sound policy in check.

Good news Barack is about change - maybe he wants to embrace everyone - Group hug

Yea Flatus she probably couldn't afford a ticket home
and to be stranded in a hotel in Pittsburg..............

Such cruelty

Jack

The govt COLA increase for social security recipients was probably one of the Bush administration's better fiscal decisions. I have little doubt that much of the increase of funds received by the pensioners will go directly to help their children and grandchildren in meaningful ways.

the ATM girl in pittsburgh wasnt Dowd, was it??

Sturge, many years ago at work we weren't paid a lot. But, we had semi-annual bonuses to make up for that. Usually, 6-10% in April and 15-17% in October. Then people decided that they wanted more money in their check each week since bonus money was "at risk" money, not guaranteed. So, they increased our pay each week, lowered our bonuses. Bonuses became small, but we got them on a quarterly basis. But, they were performance-driven. Which made them smaller. Last year, they cut our weekly pay between $2.50 and over $3.00 per hour and ended the quarterly bonuses. Cost of living raises in July ended about 4 or 5 years ago.

ROFL@Bob Barr

"A vote for John McCain is a wasted vote," says Barr. Barr says Sen. McCain "never appealed to the fiscal conservatives because of his record of increasing the size and power of government. John McCain's refusal to stand up against the bailout tore the wheels right off the so-called 'Straight Talk Express' bus!" "If you want your vote to count, and go towards a leader dedicated to lowering taxes, cutting spending, and drastically reducing the size of government, then you still have a choice in 2008. That choice is Bob Barr," says Barr.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/mccains-exit-interviews.html#comment-164090

Flatus, If the COLA comes through it will be about $50 - 60. Then the price charged for Medicare will go up which will wipe out the majority of that so they may get an additional $20.

No, Jamie, there's no increase in our medicare this year. So, all the increase will be in our pockets.

Sturge
No, Dowd was the mugger.
The girl didn't really confess that is just a story being put out by the liberal media to protect one of their own.
http://www.absolutelyfriggintrue,com/dowd\\B//

Jack

read the link out loud, don't click it

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/mccains-exit-interviews.html#comment-164085

Rosie

He doesn't eat puppies?

Jack

Well that's an omen of sorts.

Archie Poehler born Saturday Night (Live)

Mother Amy and son doing well.

Here's a news link on why mommy missed the show.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/tvguide/385023_tvgif25.html

Pong for the 1001th time, I don't buy your basic premise. You assume something that the historical record doesn't support. So no point in you continuing to have this discussion with me. I understand as a Bush supporter you think saying something makes it's true.

the way amy was bouncing around last week, I figured the baby would pop out on the set.......

Flatus,

That's good news. I hadn't received notice on mine yet and was just going by news reports.

The reason that there are so many immigrants from mexico is that there is no where else to go-----the politicians take turns at bleeding the country, it is a very rich country that could provide for its masses easily---the politicians, the mafia's, gangs, high food prices, etc, are not letting anyone breath over there, if it gets to be the same here where will we go to feed our hungry, Canada?,,,we need both party to work together, or we will have that slave population that a Anslem attributes to the D's,,,that is why i reacted so strongly to his post,,,,for those that say this can not happen,,,,,we will see, Obama has no idea what he is going to be responsible for------i hope that he has some balls to be his own man, even if it only means one term---but i somehow doubt it?????

solar.....your post to anselm was a home run, by the way.......outa the park and across the street behind.....

"You know we don't usually get this type of right winger here. "

I was thinking the same thing. A little unusual balance. Interesting.

"There's huge gaps in this guy's biography and I suspect there will be a great deal of buyer's remorse once the curtain is pulled back." ubns 3:26 PM

Truer words...

Sturg----thanks

It is not my intent to be right, in politics i don't know if this is possible, but if i were looking for a bzns partner, it just would not be the R's at this time, my devil ( if people can say my god) r they blind, it is just my team against yours,,,,,,not very pleasing for us in the minor leagues,,,but coming from you I don't feel so bad for over posting again, thanks

Jamie- I forgot a tsp. of baking soda, sorry. I forget to add it sometimes too.

"Ya cant call yourself a maverick when all you've been the last 8 years is a Sidekick."

--Biden on McCain.

lol

Sarah Palin: "All dressed up and no place to go."

--Donna Brazille

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/mccains-exit-interviews.html#comment-164023

The mainstream media is as liberal as the conservative corporations that own them

Obviously a lesson lost on a great many of you around here, and something our host has long forgotten:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAur_I077NA

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/mccains-exit-interviews.html#comment-164065

GORDO's still around?

NovaB... spot on, including that fateful day that has sent us downward for so long (with a rather short respite during the Clinton years).

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/mccains-exit-interviews.html#comment-164045

and something our host has long forgotten:

No sense of decency???

Power in hands of few replaces liberty for all

"On those nights when they were young, they smoked pot in the streets and listened to Dylan in the car and dreamed of the risks they'd take.

But now, as Baby Boomers grow old, they welcome those police surveillance cameras on the light poles outside their homes, thinking the cameras make them safe. And they rush toward the warm embrace of big government and promised security."

"....the times are changing, and the Boomers should consider the costs and consequences of what they're being offered by our politicians....."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/chi-kass-bd-boomersoct26,0,4031465.column

I wasn't born back then.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/mccains-exit-interviews.html#comment-164105

Ashelm is soo right wing that if he wasn't Gay, he'd hate the homosexuals as well... Then again, maybe he does already. I know a lot of right-wing self-loathing "fags"...

Brian,

Are you having a bad day today?

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/mccains-exit-interviews.html#comment-164115

Chloe! Welcome back !

I watched a show on John Wilkes Booth late last night. He was shocked to find out that people didn't think he was a hero after killing Lincoln.

Patsi you want to do feminism a favor, find a speeding bus and dive under it.

Posted by: BrianInNYC | October 25, 2008 10:38 PM

Oh.....Look who's commenting on "shame".

LOL

Jamie YHM

If I knew what YHM meant. I might understand the sentence. :-)

British Prison authorities to use cult de-programming techniques on terrorist prisoners

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1077861/Muslim-fanatic-prisoners-programmed-using-controversial-techniques-cure-beliefs.html

Interesting approach. Sure beats torture.

Sturgeone; 9:23 from an earlier thread............. "any system that relys on humans is doomed", human nature, ain't it a bitch. Quoting Donna Bazile however, is beneath you, she's probably the least credible there is........... Later Sturge................................................

Champ; 3:42 pm from an earlier thread......"How are we going to change it - we're waiting for you to tell us", Good luck to Ron Paul, Champ, I've decided to forego this disasterous facade, and I'm really praying that Pelosi won't be able to institute the "Fairness Doctrine", otherwise it's goodbye to free speech, but we knew all along that this NEW democratic party is just a carbon copy of what's been there for 10 years only this time if you complain, you're called a racist....

To: Patsi, Chloe. Carol, Bethyboo, Viv, Sea , Flatus, Jason, Solar and any other FREE thinkers out there, that I missed, sorry for that. Good Luck, hang in there, and when I get back from across the pond if you're still around and allowed free speech, I've got your back......

Mr. Crawford; Once more, Thank You for the forum to vent our feelings and our thoughts and your surrogate Jamie is a wealth of knowledge and capability ............

Rita

You have mail!

Rita, I'm not a free thinker, but I'm very reasonable. LOL!

PP--be safe

"Because we are in a financial crisis of monumental proportion. The role of government is to intervene when a nation is in crisis. A home owner's loan corporation was instituted in the Great Depression. They went out and they bought people's mortgages and over time, people were able then to pay back those mortgages"...

John Mc CAIN on Meet the Press today. From what I've read he went out on a limb in this statement especially on the role of government. Most of the partisan Repugs on the blog would totally disagree with him. It seems Mc CAIN was saying that socialism works.

Thanks Rita. Hope we hear from you while you're gone too, though. Enjoy!

"I'm really praying that Pelosi won't be able to institute the "Fairness Doctrine", otherwise it's goodbye to free speech"....

Rita, I like a lot of what you write, but you are wrong on the Fairness Doctrine.

"The Fairness Doctrine was introduced in the U.S. in 1949 (Report on Editorializing by Broadcast Licensees, 13 F.C.C. 1246 [1949]). The doctrine remained a matter of general policy, and was applied on a case-by-case basis until 1967, when certain provisions of the doctrine were incorporated into FCC regulations.[3] It did not require equal time for opposing views, but required that contrasting viewpoints be presented. The Fairness Doctrine had two basic elements: It required broadcasters to devote some of their airtime to discussing controversial matters of public interest, and to air contrasting views regarding those matters. Stations were given wide latitude as to how to provide contrasting views: It could be done through news segments, public affairs shows or editorials."

It has no impact on free speech. In fact, it increased access to ensure free speech. The airwaves are owned by the public and the corporations who run them are charged with the responsibility of maintaining those airwaves "in the public interest, convenience and necessity."

Here is one commentary by Democracy Now ! host Amy Goodman
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/04/11/461

From FAIR (Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting"

Extra! January/February 2005

The Fairness Doctrine
How we lost it, and why we need it back

By Steve Rendall

A license permits broadcasting, but the licensee has no constitutional right to be the one who holds the license or to monopolize a...frequency to the exclusion of his fellow citizens. There is nothing in the First Amendment which prevents the Government from requiring a licensee to share his frequency with others.... It is the right of the viewers and listeners, not the right of the broadcasters, which is paramount.

— U.S. Supreme Court, upholding the constitutionality of the Fairness Doctrine in Red Lion Broadcasting Co. v. FCC, 1969.

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2053

ET, Read about Herbert Hover and the great depresssion. He was against too much intervention or coercion by the government. People ended up thinking he did nothing to help them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Clark_Hoover

New thread on The BackChannel Blog

From McCarthy to McCain, by BrianInNYC

http://clistersbackchannel.wordpress.com/

ET - Balance -- Balance.

Fairness - in those days the number of media outlets was Radio and Newspaper.

If you support such a law then expand it to all Media.

And Hey - if this had been in place maybe the Entertainers would not have shot themselves - and McCain would not be where he put himself

Rita - Thank you Mr and Mrs Crawford - Your Boy Craig is a pretty unique and cool dude.

Do not just thank the Dad.....

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/mccains-exit-interviews.html#comment-164085

LOL

and he does it with a straight face.

Amazing

Jack

" your surrogate Jamie "

Rita, Thanks for the promotion (?), but Craig is a sweet person I'm met once.

Same old same old from blistersyeahbutchannel

From Inappropriate to Inane
We thought Obama didn't care about blame
It was Post Partisan solutions
fueled by selfless notions
But It Was All Part of A Game

The fascinating thing about Hoover is that he was quite a humanitarian when it came to saving Belgians from certain starvation...

"On August 4, 1914 Belgium had been overrun by the German army heading for Paris via Belgium. King Albert and his army had stood up to the larger German forces with such resistance that their acts of bravery became legendary.

Belgium was blockaded by the British and occupied by a German army. Over seven million Belgians faced certain starvation.

"Hoover undertook an unprecedented relief effort as head of the Commission for the Relief of Belgium (CRB). The CRB became, in effect, an independent republic of relief, with its own flag, navy, factories, mills and railroads. Its $12-million-a-month budget was supplied by voluntary donations and government grants."

The Belgians still have much love for him. It is the 50th year since the Belgium hosted the World's Fair, known as Expo '58. 1958 Hoover served as the United States representative to the World’s Fair in Brussels, Belgium - his last official act.

Interestingly enough, the website so completely devoted to Hoover actually is a .be website meaning it is a Belgian website.

http://www.rememberinghoover.be/Biography.htm

I think if Hoover had embraced MORE government intervention in the Great Depression he would have been a hero to Americans instead of being viewed as a failure and Franklin Delano Roosevelt would have never been elected President. I used to think Hoover was cold hearted, but it is clear he wasn't. However, he was a slave to his notion that government shouldn't intervene during crises and in that he showed the deficit of Republican ideology. He could have been a great President.

A question for Conservatives:

When are you going to drop the ludicrous assertion that Republicans are the party of fiscal responsibility? Nobody likes tax-and-spend liberals, but I haven't met anyone fond of borrow-and-spend conservatives, either.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/mccains-exit-interviews.html#comment-164139

Ping, the balance was there when corporations were not allowed to own too much media organizations within a single market. Unfortunately, your party has decimated those rules as well.

Now I am off to watch Battlestar Galactica and then back to bed. It's past 10 pm here and tomorrow morning comes EARLY!

Hugs to all...

billip, I actually like "tax and spend" because it helps the people. One of my best friends has a bumper sticker on her car that says "I gladly pay taxes. America is worth it". Same here in BE... even though they are very high, I am still better off than when I was in the USA.

Ping

Unfortunately, the Republicans put through a telecommunications law that allowed almost free rein as to the number of radio stations, TV stations, and newspapers a person or group of people could own in a single market.

With no fairness doctrine and unlimited outlets, there are areas of the country have little opposing thought. If someone doesn't have access to cable channels or computer internet, they might never see or hear an idea from the other side of the spectrum.

Courtesy of the Republicans and thier media campaign donors, free speech took quite a beating.

billp - go back and read all the posts.
I agree with you - but Bush has an R by his name but his behavior in fiscal matters was poor.

Bush was complacent at best. He did not stand up and call for accountablitity. As I posted before - I think some back room compromise with the likes of Chris and Barney...

Jamie - Where?
The views in those areas reflect the population. The consumer driven aspects can not be disputed.

"Unfortunately, the Republicans put through a telecommunications law that allowed almost free rein as to the number of radio stations, TV stations, and newspapers a person or group of people could own in a single market."

Worth repeating. This opened the doors for a lot of sanctioned BS, from the banning of the Dixie Chicks to group think op/ed pages.

Funny lines here:

Roosevelt blasted Hoover for spending and taxing too much.

Roosevelt's running mate John Nance Garner accused Hoover of "leading the country down the path of socialism."

Hoover did a lot of good, but it was almost all forgotten.

Ping

Where? The whole of the United States. It is money as free speech. If a multi millionaire can come in and buy the newspaper, local tv station, cable company, AM and FM radio stations ... all of which present only one version of the news as programmed or slanted by that owner, it has nothing to do with consumer driven desires.

The old bill limited the number of outlets i.e. if there were only one each of radio, tv and newspaper outlet then no single entity could own them all. That allowed for competition and local desires. In areas with two radio stations the station A's ownership had to be different that station B. Again, competition and local desires. This is no longer true.

Republicans only really like competition when they are able to stack the deck.

"... a person’s friends and associates have long been recognized as a critical and relevant factor in assessing their suitability for public service. One’s associations and relationships provide invaluable insights into that person’s judgement, integrity and loyalty. They can also provide a window into a candidate’s social and ideological comfort zones.

Since there is no requirement for a candidate for high elective office — such as the presidency of the United States — to un