Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

You may just be next on Sarah Palinsaurus's animal savagery list.

See video at link below.

http://actionfund.defenders.org/site/Ecard?ecard_id=1981&s_newOptIn=t&JServSessionIdr001=b5bqlg0jq4.app25a

He has to destroy Obama to win, if he doesn't it is over, and you know who can do his happy dance until his neighbors call the cops.

I thought that McCain was in favor of some recent legislation, or made some vote that declared that waterboarding was not torture...am I wrong?

Liberal is no longer a dirty word, the age of Reagan is over. Name calling isn't going to reverse McCain's fortunes, his unnamed friends are wrong.

McCain has yet to provide one example of why he is the right person to be trusted with the ship of state with a collapsing economy, and that's because he's not. The Republican charge of "they are going to raise your taxes" isn't working.

Care to join me on the dance floor Bowmanc?

No, just film it and post it on Youtube. Then you can go audition for Dancing with the Stars.

Chloe

"He spent years working for Ayers, promoting Ayers’ causes."

Did you listen to the CNN video you linked? Obama has NEVER worked FOR Ayers. The money came from the Annenburg Foundation (a conservative charitable organization) and Ayers and Obama were on the board that distributed the Annenburg money and raised the matching funds.

They were also on the Woods Foundation board together. Again Obama did not work FOR Ayers.

All of their activities related to educational support in impoverished areas of Chicago.

Do you have some problem with giving money to improve schools?

Jamie: Republicans ALWAYS have a problem giving money to improve schools. No wonder they're so pissed about Obama/Ayers.

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http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/forget-the-future-why-not-the.html#comment-155633
I would not have put it the same way that Champ did , but yes there has been a slight veering to the left, or a hard one by some,to have not noticed, is to not have been paying attention, in the last few months you and Jamie, are very protective of some and not of all, yes yes you both have had your arguments with him or her, and say that to defend just one, if someone like Jamie,Sturg,LL, that is respected by all, or most told me and the other person that we are both out of line I would stfu and listen, if it's only one sided it just is not fair, maybe not my buis, but it's happened quite a few times now.

Posted by: SolarCrete Author Profile Page | October 7, 2008 5:46 PM
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7 Eleven is holding its Presidential Poll. So far Obama is winning in all but two states

http://www.7-election.com/

In the past, the poll has been very accurate about the popular vote count. What this might mean for the electoral vote is up for grabs.

Chloe, you are correct. It was Ayers (as the initiator) that had the authority to hire persons on the board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge.

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1981, New York City: Just a Bizarre Coincidence?

"It’s 1981, New York City. Barack Obama is residing a few blocks away from Weather Underground leader William Ayers. We know very little about Obama’s life in NYC during that period; supposedly he transferred from Occidental College and completed undergraduate studies at Columbia University. Obama’s academic records and, in fact, the records of his life from those years in New York are lost.

I believe that Obama knew Ayers in New York City, and that he’s hiding the association with Ayers, among others, in refusing to provide information about his life there."

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/10/07/1981-new-york-city-just-a-bizarre-coincidence/

It was so cool hearing Axelrod state that the Obama campaign now has over 4 million donors. I wish he had confirmed the rumor that the campaign has raised over 100 million for the month of Sept.

McCain should be a statesman l tonight and spend all his ire on Shrub. I think personal attacks on Obama will only cause the media to set their hair on fire. He should do a Palin and ignore the questions and talk about what he would have done differently in the bailout or leading up to it. What he would have done differently from Bears Stern on...

As long as he is willing to give Shrub credit for anything, he has no chance.

I love that 7/11 poll!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3Bma3vBG5g

Thirty Second Sarah

Lost records Gordo? That sounds familiar. If it is true then Obama is taking a page out of Bush's play book.

McCain is not George Bush but Obama reminds me a lot of him. Taking advantage of fear without any really good plan to fix it. People voted for George because he used fear for our security. Now people will vote for Obama because he is using fear for the economy. Still no one has offered why Obama will be a better choice.

Obama camp still saying Obama had no idea of Ayer's past when he sat down in his living room with him. Does anyone here believe that? I guess it just doesn't matter who people associate with.

Well, I sure hope Obama has gotten the news about McCain association and board membership with the Council for World Freedom. This group was the front for the funds going to the Contras when it was illegal to send money to Nicaragua. It was the basis of Reagan's Iran-Contra scandal. And, McCain served on the board of this virulent anti-communist, pro-Nazis Council. See the web page:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jzQtw1kATj1xCqPcAmwgCKDtNpDQD93LRD980.

I'm looking forward to seeing Obama call out McCain on this latest phase of dirty politics given that McCain said he was above it. Yeah, right!

Sarah Palinsaurus "Secessionist"?

If Sarah Palin wasn’t a secessionist, then why was she palling around with them?

See video at link of Sarah and the First Dude at the Secessionists 2008 Conference.

http://suzieqq.wordpress.com/2008/10/07/sarah-palin-palling-around-with-alaskan-independence-party-secessionists-video/#comments

Sorry about the link. For some reason, Google pulled it. Here is one to the Boston Globe:

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/10/another_name_in.html

To answer the rhetorical question: If Sarah Palin wasn’t a secessionist, then why was she palling around with them? Because their names are PAL-IN, like in pallin' around with them.

epro12,

mccain voted to arm not only the terrorist Contras, but also genocidal maniac saddam hussein and terrorist osama bin ladin. mccain has a 26 yea recorrd of being pro-terrorist.

I still want to know the answer to this, so I am reposting.

Now that all this wealth is vanishing, Obama won't be able to tax the rich, because there won't be any left. What will he do then?

Perhaps this:

"The skies will open, the light will come down, celestial choirs will be singing and everyone will know we should do the right thing and the world will be perfect,"

"Could Obama be the new Roosevelt?"

Hilarious.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/mccains-debate-agenda.html#comment-155709

Well that's what it took to get us out of the last Republican caused depression.

The Great Depression was a worldwide economic downturn starting in most places in 1929 and ending at different times in the 1930s or early 1940s for different countries. It was the largest and most important economic depression in modern history, and is used in the 21st century as a benchmark on how far the world's economy can fall. The Great Depression originated in the United States; historians most often use as a starting date the stock market crash on October 29, 1929, known as Black Tuesday. The end of the depression in the U.S. is associated with the onset of the war economy of World War II, beginning around 1939.

I hope he loudly proclaims his opposition to the Medicare drug benefit for seniors. He'll be sealing his own political coffin. Those seniors in FL will RUN to the polls to vote for Obama.

Bowmanc,
What makes you think that there won't be any more rich people ?

Pretty powerful . . .

http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?video_id=PdJUCU1UH2w&rel=0&eurl=http%2525

"Combine that with Patsi's energy and you were left with many days where every post you would make had either an idiot, retard, f bomb etc."

Well, thank you Bear...Jeezus...when did I call anyone a retard? I see I should have stayed gone.

There will be, but they are moving their cash offshore.

Actually most of them are in a cash position right now, chomping at the bit, waiting to start snapping up stock that will be way undervalued, because of all these idiots that are panic selling. After this there will be a whole bunch of people that will have increased their wealth. However they are going to sit on it, because they don't want to pay capital gains. They will be setting up trusts and using the gifting rules and exemptions to avoid taxes, which any financial adviser worth their money would help them do.

Patsi,

It wasn't you.

Patsi,

I think he was referring to Champ with that one.

No Patsi, It's always nicer when you're around. But do as you must.

Enough with the champ-centric drama already. I wasn't worked up at all today. Just tried to have a discussion (no one disputed me on merit), I used no profanity, and only got snarky in response to snarkiness directed at me, but it was everyone else who got worked into a tizzy. That was so last thread anyway. Let it die. Enjoy the debate.

I might start my own blog and spare you all soon.

I thought for sure I would have an answer by now of how Obama will implement all his new proposals, cut taxes on 95% of the people (even though many included in that number, do not pay taxes) and do all this with a shrinking economy. Less business activity, less taxes, drop off in wealth due to the decline in the stock market, less income, less income taxes....

At least in New York State the new governor is poised to slash the budget. Does Obama have the guts to say that he will tonight?

The Great Depression began as a rolling midwestern farm crisis in the mid - late 20s. Farmers stopped buying new equipment, which hurt factories by the summer of 1929. DOW charts indicate that a volatile market 'topping' began as early August, 1929.

The crash of 1893 and the depression that followed were actually more severe than the misnamed Great Depression. It began with the failure of the Reading Railroad, and soon brought down the railroad industry and the world'd banking industry. Fortunately, the discoveries of gold in the Yukon, Alaska, and New Zealand in 1898 promoted some loosening of credit, so The Long Depression began to ease. By the end of 1900 the US was almost back to normal.

WWII actually began earlier than 1939. Italy invaded the Empire of Ethiopia on October 4, 1935. While low-level Ethiopian resistance continued for several years, Italian's ally, the Empire of Japan, prepared for war, and eventually invaded China in July 7, 1937.

Bowmanc,

So, they are moving all their money offshore to follow all the jobs they exported, eh ?

What is our precious 'Homeland Security' doing about this ?

Not a thing, X. Homeland security has nothing to do with it.

Nope,

It isn't going to India or China. Just resting outside the US gov't jurisdiction.

Homeland Security, they are making sure that there aren't any terrorists heading for those tax havens.

aw, c'mon folks, seems to me both Patsi and Brian have been on their best behavior lately. don't bait them into their old ways

Bowman

The answer to you question is that it is anybody's guess. At present there is no way of knowing just how bad this is going to get.

Government employment at all levels has been hiding actual unemployment for a long, long time. With a 10 trillion dollar debt, we have pretty well run out of countries willing to loan us Money, particularly when they are in bad shape themselves.

This is actually one of the reasons I'm supporting Obama now. Not for the promises but for the brilliance and willingness to take advice from others. It was the quiet, mature, problem solving orientation that attracted me first to Hillary.

The country will need a lot of studious wonks to analyze problems and propose solutions. It is not a quality that I believe is part of McCain's nature.

Or Palin's nature, Jamie.

Palin isn't even worth considering. Alaska is welcome to her. She's had her 15 minutes of fame. Time to go home.

Jamie, said

Government employment at all levels has been hiding actual unemployment for a long, long time. With a 10 trillion dollar debt, we have pretty well run out of countries willing to loan us Money, particularly when they are in bad shape themselves.

This is actually one of the reasons I'm supporting Obama now. Not for the promises but for the brilliance and willingness to take advice from others. It was the quiet, mature, problem solving orientation that attracted me first to Hillary.

The country will need a lot of studious wonks to analyze problems and propose solutions. It is not a quality that I believe is part of McCain's nature.

THIS IS a kitchen table conversation, simple, excellent, now can you please ad the facts of the Reagan unemployment tax(checks) that he started as taxable income, the repugs would never be abe to recover from this

yay Claire, luv her

Well, it took exactly four days for someone to steal my Obama sign from the front yard. I've already got a replacement that will go up tomorrow. I dearly would like to retaliate by stealing somebody's McCain sign, but that would sort of defeat the purpose of supporting the person who is not the total scumbag in this campaign.

Meanwhile, if it's true, as Woody Allen most famously said, that 80 percent of success is simply showing up on time...I would like to posit that the remaining 20 percent of success is sitting around all day in your underwear waiting for the phone to ring.

With that thought, I will start cooking dinner and retire to the television room for the debate.

Hope to check in with you all later.

Lard,

Maybe it was an Obama person that stole it so they could finish decorating their dorm room.

Lard, That's been happening in my area, too. My next door neighbor had two signs stolen and one defaced. My sign should be here within the week. I'm going to put it in a window, I think. Might be safer there although not quite as visible. I'm also considering laminating it, affixing it to a board and hanging it from a tree.

At least my American flag is surviving untouched. I bring it in each night at dusk, as per patriotic protocol, and put it out each morning at dawn.

And there are plenty more Obama signs where that one, and the next one to be stolen, came from. Bring it on, GOP vandals!

Hey Jamie, MSNBC is going to be using dials too.

Keith is bringing up the rally in Clearwater where someone yelled "Kill HIm".

God Bless.

Nannymm...thank you for that idea!

Now I understand why a McCain supporter up the street had a sign hanging from a tree. I thought it was just weirdness when I first saw it the other day, but it's a great way to make the sign theft-proof.

If I get this next one ripped off, I'm going that route. Thanks!

Frank Romano Talks About How the Economy Affects the Printing Industry

Just a snapshot of what is happening in my industry:

http://members.whattheythink.com/allsearch/video.cfm?id=36224

http://members.whattheythink.com/allsearch/video.cfm?id=36125

Secret Service is investigating the "Kill Him" comment at a Palin rally!!

You're welcome, Lard.

Lard, I'll bet the sign-printing company is stealing them. Times are tough, and they have kids to feed.

As for tonight's debate, I think McCain goes in with the advantage, because he has absolutely nothing to lose. Ceteris paribus, he's going to lose anyway, so he might as well go in and try to land a few hay-makers. If he's a team-player, he might even set up a few "I told you so"s for the Republican challenger in 2012, considering the mess the Democratic administration and congress will inherit. Obama just has to stand there and recite policy positions, there's no need at all for him to go on the attack. Nevertheless, I think it will be as boring and un-substantive as the last debate between the two.

The difference is that in 1972 it was McGovern calling Nixon a liar (which Nixon was), and it backfired on McGovern. This year it's McCain calling Obama a liar. This negative tone by McCain , in my eyes, makes McCain look like a feeble , senile old fool. Maybe the rest of America loves it, we'll see.

america sometimes is not as stupid as it looks.......

Bowmanc,

The comment about 'Homeland Security' doing something to stop the escape of the ruling class' wealth, was a mere snarkism.

Since our present crisis is defined as a credit shortage, and since credit is backed by deposited wealth, it should be in the national interest to prevent these vast heaps of republican money you wrote about from absconding to UnAmerica. Iow, the process you describe is unAmerican.

ACORN office raided for voter fraud. Now who would they be helping?

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/mccains-debate-agenda.html#comment-155744

Champ...you may well be right about this. But the economic model you postulate fails to explain why American flag makers aren't stealing American flags from private property. Your doctoral thesis is therfore rejected.

Xrep.

Where is all the Kennedy money? I don't know but I bet they have plenty in tax shelters or off shore.

Where is all the Heinz/ Kerry money?

Where is the Pelosi fortune?

I bet it is well protected from the chance of being redistributed to the "poor"

Love that 7-11 poll, never go there didn't know that they did this before....fantastic marketing.

going there manana.....just to get a cup of Jo and ask how it's going at their store.

Of course, we know that Biden spent all his at the Home Depot.

what's the dance called????? the Happy dance? lol

the flags are made in china......?

We need to know why sarah palin hates America and wants to secede. See, if we find out why she hates America, we could try some pacification scheme like Surge on her. Y'know, throw B!LL!ONS of $$$ at her, so that she will love aa, and we will WIN ! There's no substitute for victory, y'know. ( :>D)<

Remember this at the 7/11:

“In Delaware, the largest growth of population is Indian Americans, moving from India. You cannot go to a 7/11 or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I’m not joking.” Joe Biden.

Keith is really picking on gramps and gidget tonight

Il Gov Rod B says that Rezko said that He and Sen, O did nothing wrong

That should have read, "...so that she will love America, and we will WIN !"

One point I'd like to share, these candidates are held to such ridiculously high standards, I am really thrilled to see....those who have made (truthful) errors have been able to admit it without being shut out. Like in the past elections.

If 7-11 is open 24 hours...why do they have locks on their doors?

Patsi,

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/mccains-debate-agenda.html#comment-155715

That was a poorly written thought by me because what you construed as attributions to you were actually reactions that I have had at some point in time to various people's posts. Even if you had made those statements, I was trying to contrast that with the need for some to go to the Nazi card in retaliation.

I was reminded of something today that has left me a bit disconnected...that notwithstanding, I am sorry for any angst or discomfort that post caused you.

I can do an Indian accent if I have to....not everyone wants to run a 7-11.....they get robbed all the time.

Gramps? Gidget? Et tu, Jamie? LOL!

This election is a perfect example of why I would never run for president. Of course, if people sent me as much money as they do Obama....

I used to spend a lot of time at the Wilmington Home Depot; never saw Biden there.

Bowmanc:

Raising taxes on the wealthy wiill provide a lot of cash. I think Obama should stay strong on this point.

He is only talking about rolling back the irresponsible Bush tax cuts and returning to the rates under the Clinton years.

The rich are not going to stop spending money.

And the lower and middle class - who are living paycheck to paycheck - will put any extra money they get from a tax break right back into the economy.

1.3 trillion dollars - WOW - cuts in Medicare....said McInsane.....is sunk!

I use analogies to fascism because I genuinely think they are applicable, Bear, not to make cheap shots.

Warren, I'm sure A-Rod agrees with you. LOL!

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/mccains-debate-agenda.html#comment-155754

Sturge...you have just received a doctoral degree in global economics. Congratulations.

Craig,

You wrote that mccain's pals suggested that their candidate should come out against big spending.

Hasn't it occured to these people that 4 weeks before the election is a little late to begin advocating fiscal restraint ?

Besides, Obama will say that we can best show fiscal restraint by finding the nearest exit from Iraq Fiasco II, and 7 out of 10 Americans will agree.

It's just too bad that Sturge can't join the debate tonight. Might make it interesting to watch.

UB:

I agree on the "high standards." I hate when some pompous jack ass on TV or radio talks about how pathetic the choices are this year.

It is one of the easiest arguments to make - and it is made in every election.

Being a lawyer - I know how easy it is to tear people down - when you pull out quotes from a transcript or choose to only focus on their worst moments with a vicious slant.

The fact that there is a video or transcript for almost everything these people say makes it a very tough job.

Questions concerning Palin's relationship to potentially violent secessionist are certainly reasonable.

Questions concerning radical figures that helped to make Obama's career are just as reasonable, if not more so, because of potential political favors that will be owed or granted by an Obama administration and a cooperative congress. Maybe Ayers gets money thrown his way, supposedly for his educational fund. Maybe Rezko gets a pardon. Maybe Oprah gets a cabinet-level position. Valid questions.

just a couple regular democrats

Feinstein and Pelosi continue to top the list of the richest members of Congress

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/06/26/BAG7B7CDMQ1.DTL

Exactly Corey.

A-Rod - and every other over paid rock star, athelete, celebrity probably has no clue how much they pay in taxes and it will not change there lifestyle a bit.

The only rich people who care are greedy old men with high-paid accountants that will them loopholes anyway.

Besides, Obama will say that we can best show fiscal restraint by finding the nearest exit from Iraq Fiasco II, and 7 out of 10 Americans will agree.

Posted by: xrepublican Author Profile Page | October 7, 2008 8:45 PM

Yeah, but Obama just wants to expend those military resources in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and maybe even Iran.

I'm heading over to open chat at Brian's room. See ya all after the debate.

Wow it's almost kick off time!!!!

Heading to Brian's Chat Room ,

see you later.....enjoy the show, it should be a "really good show"

peace~

That is what the debate should be tonight Class Warfare.

Why do democrats hate the rich?

http://www.jdapdx.com/users/jim/weblog/cb853/

I just read about Palin's supporters shouting down the media. Damn, these news reporting depts. are going to have to start hiring a bunch of SKINHEADS to work for them while covering the beauty queen unless they want to subject their workers to hostile environments.

"At that, Palin supporters turned on reporters in the press area, waving thunder sticks and shouting abuse. Others hurled obscenities at a camera crew. One Palin supporter shouted a racial epithet at an African American sound man for a network and told him, "Sit down, boy."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/06/AR2008100602935.html?nav=emailpage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6KbRJoqrbo

champ

Those questions are in fantasy land.

Obama is known as a careful and calculating politician. So what will he do - cut ties with Ayers and Rezko and make sure there is never even the appearance of a connection.

But I do believe he should make use of Oprah. She can be a powerful and mobilizing force. Not on the Cabinet - but by encouraging public service, getting out information, etc.

Bowmanc

Give me a break about class-warfare,

Plenty of people - such as Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, etc. - realize the Bush tax cuts were given to people who don't need them and who weren't asking for them.

Sorry Bow - didn't read the link

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Obama did not answer any of the questions fully. You all have no clue. Pull your heads from your anus.

Obama could not pass a background check with his mysterious pass.

Hmmm lived in Indonesia, Kenyan father with ties to radical government officials, half brother living in box in Kenya on a dollar a day, had a Saudi Muslim write a letter to get him into Harvard (why not release your grades from Columbia?) Did you not get into Harvard without shell money from the Saudi’s to fund your education? Who paid off your student loans? Release those documents Obama.

Then you have a Pakistani roommate in college and head to Pakistan for 6 weeks? French Riveria? NO but Pakistan. THen you are associated with Louis Farrakahn and Rashid Kashid and then 20 years with Rev. Wright….. PATTERN?

Ask yourself if the Feds would not pass an average person with a background check such as this handling your US information, why would you vote for this MYSTERIOUS guy?????

Voting for McCain the true patriot!!!!!