Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

Oh, you mean there won't be an October surprise?

It keeping with all the bleeding metaphors flowing these days , I have to say that all that Palin did was put a band-aid on a sucking chest wound.
And for that matter, congress managed to do the same thing.

Now I have to drag my 50 lb. bag of pinto beans down to the bunker.

Well,

I'm curious to see where the "issue" needs to come for it to have an impact...ie Middle East or Europe more of a factor than Africa or Asia

HAIR! Re: Sample emails below I have received from many Olbermann viewers who seem to think I dye my hair (see video in current post). The facts: My beard is almost completely gray, but for reasons I cannot explain, at 52 years old there is not a single gray hair on my head. Last night on MSNBC was a perfect storm, as I do need a haircut, had showered before show, and makeup artist blasted me with hair spray on top of the wet hair, apparently creating the effect of a dye job. Some of you know me and can hopefully attest to the fact that my hair color is natural. If it would help to dye some gray into my hair, I would be happy to do so and stop this madness. My God, people, the economy is in shambles and surely this is not worth so much discussion . . .

Sample Email No. 1:
“For goodness sakes, look to your friend Keith. Cut out the black hair dye. Looks like a cheap Italian. a bit of gray is handsome. You are a good looking man, don't try to be 20 years old.”

Sample Email No. 2:
“Dear Craig Crawford,
And I'm coming . . . a 71 year old former redheaded woman who's respected the greyings of actors Ronald Coleman, Cary Grant, Paul Newman; broadcasters Walter Cronkite, Tom Brokow, et al. Craig, you look teriible with your newly brown dye, capusuled on your head and eyebrows. Let's get back to basics, and who you really are! Woman love those greys that creep into men's hairlines as they age. Gives them distinguishment, authority . . . know what they're talking about, not trying to regain youth. Craig, as a redhead, was always pointed out as one. Later, thought going blond would give me more cashe. Then realizedI already had it as a redhead, a minority. Today I wear a white/grey, w/tinge of auburn on my head. All natural. Realized that I had the greatest to begin with . . . red hair . . . and content with evolutionaized hair color. Even your eyebrow are starkinly brown (did Stacy and Kelly of "What Not to Wear" give you a makeover?! Suspect not, as their hairdresser and makeup artist would have made you look more who you are; distinguished journalist, not an odd pack.Let's get back to the journalistic look of the Tom Browkows, the Edward R. Murrows; and Keith Olbermann. Nothing to be ashamed of greying manes; it's the opposite, as they surely have proved; and prove today. We need real men!”

Craig,

At least they aren't razzing you about the wavy, near mullet like structure to your hair...lol

mullet-like? et tu bear?

Hey,

I've been making the Hillary Clinton comparison since last January so consider it my "Republican going to the Reagan well" moment...lol

Craig there will only be one issue for the McCain campaign from now till November fourth, demonizing Obama. McCain is now a cornered animal, and like any cornered animal he has no choice but to attack. Obama has effectively pinned McCain's campaign down to two states, Ohio and Florida. Florida has just about slipped out of his grasp, and I think pulling out of Michigan will cost him Ohio. The debate on Tuesday night will be an Mean Old Man vs. No Drama Obama. I understand that anything can happen, that being said this election is firming up, American's are growing comfortable with the idea of Obama as president and once that started to happen McCain was/is doomed. History is against him, as John Edwards so aptly put it when he pulled out of the race.

Craig I love your hair the way it is, it's what I like most about you, don't change a thing!

:)

Has anyone else noticed how pundits, even the repug ones sounds like they are speaking about hyper active children when referring to the repug base and palin is their Ritalin.

A man your age shouldn't worry about what his mother thinks about his hair. You want me to talk to her? LOL

that's ok, my mother likes to bitch about the lack of that decorated look about my apartment. She doesn't understand why I live like an (in her words) "unmarried straight guy".

craig c' if this line of discussion continues i will
be wondering more about you than your hair

ok, mqw, no more hair talk. just wish i'd get no more emails about it

Memo to McCain: Lose that creepy grunting sound you were making today when talking about Palin, it's really makes you sound like some old perv sitting on park bench poking 17 y/o girls with your cane.

ya'll keep odd hours''i thought i was the only one
that had to be up all night

another hitchcock marathon craig ?

Craig -- I don't know where these people are coming from -- I thought you looked HAWT on Olberman tonight -- the suit really looked great and the color looked perfect with your coloring.

Unlike many men in their 50s, you have lots of *great* hair on your head.

I say grow it long and wear it in a ponytail -- grow the beard too!

just never known a southern boy to go on and on
about his hair''' it is what it is
he must of been primping as mama used to say

Anyone else watching Larry King? Georgette Mosbacher is a perfect example of what 8 face lifts is 6 too many!

Talk about unnatural hair color!

Hair!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yd3Elm-X7c

Craig, Thats amusing. There was a time in my life where I thought you were doin the "Grecian Formula" thing. But to all you non-believers, Take it from me, Craigs got hair to die for!

;0)

Did Georgette divorce Robert? God, I remember her from the 80's in DC -- so rich -- but not allowed in Nancy's crew.

not quite hitchcock, mqw, but i am watching a menacing elizabeth taylor on sundance channel, something called "Secret Ceremony" about a girl who "looks like a London hooker's late daugher, while the hooker looks like the girl's late mother"

weird stuff

Robert Mitchum in this movie is creepin me out more than GORDO

Wow, that's creepy.

sounds like a horror movie
hope your house does'nt make all those funny
creaking settling noises all night

yep it does, mqw. my house is 112 years old

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27010657/

Jury has a verdict for OJ

Let's go RED SOX!!!

J.D FReakin DREW!!!!!!!!

Wow, Vegas court works late...here comes the verdicts...

i think that's mia farrow playing some sort of psychotic kid opposite elizabeth taylor and robert mitchum in this film, they're all over the top and scary as hell

Craig, What channel you on?

Sundance channel

I don't think I get that...oh well...Sox are close to a big win...

So best i can tell Elizabeth Taylor is playing a London hooker who thinks Mia Farrow looks like her daughter, while Farrow's character thinks Taylor looks like her mother. Meanwhile, Robert Mitchum is sleeping with both of them. GORDO could not even make this up.

Even Craig Crawford talks to the knotheads. Goodbye forever. OD

Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!

I feel like the Worst Person's dude lusting after Palin after that Win

OD, what?

i've seen you guys refer to "knotheads" but never understood what that means

I guess OD didn't like you and me chatting Craig, I'm knothead #1.

oh ok, sometimes i can't follow the lingo around here

i just wish somebody could get Sundance Channel and help me understand what this crazy movie is about

Craig, have your mom turn on TBS and look at Dennis Eckersley's hair and she'll stop complaining about yours...lol

ah thanks, bear, but i am officially done with hair talk

oregon d' let it go for a little while'' at the end of the day
we are all americans
we can get right back at it tomorrow

People OD claims to ignore on his "knothead" list, I believe he said there were 4 people on his knothead list, I'm not sure who the other 3 are. I suspect Mr. Democrat is one, and perhaps UB is one of the others.

All it means, Craig, is people OD doesn't speak to or read. Apparently, you've offended OD by being more open-minded and forgiving.

Craig,

AT 64 I have finally acquired some streaks of grey. I dye my hair but every once in a while stop just to see if there is enough to be interesting instead of just drab. Just thank your mom and dad for the genetic gift.

this might be the worse movie since "Planet 9 From Outer Space" but i can't stop watching it

well, OD has every right to such views. i try to ignore offensive commenters, but then i forget which ones they are

elizabeth taylor is staggering drunk in this movie. it is really funny, without meaning to be

oh my, she just stabbed robert mitchum to death in one of the most poorly acted scenes ever. they were both drunk!

*raises my hand*

haha

oh thank god, its over. going to sleep now. have a good weekend all

I'm not going to lie, Craig. I saw you on MSNBC a couple of days ago, and it looked like you'd changed your hairstyle to a more Mod look. Then it was back conventional tonight. Don't ask me why I noticed, but I did. So it must be something in the water. lol

Elizabeth Taylor was drunk? you sure it wasn't an inner ear infection? lol

Uh Oh...OJ is at the court house...here comes the verdicts...

anyone wish to wager the outcome? judge is back now

I say he will get 1 guilty

13 years to the day he pulled a neo and dodged some bullets...

wow, fake boobs on the clerk look expensive...

co defendent all guilty

OJ is toast

Simpson verdict: Guilty on all counts!

Guilty on all counts

How long til the Goldman's start mugging for the cameras to make money on the verdicts...

Hey UB,

That's neat about your friend. I know a bunch of people from Pine Ridge..... all over Sioux-land (Lakotas).. You can tease em for me and say he said he know folks from "wine ridge", lol.
I'll check your blog and see if I can contact you direct .

If you don't see this I'll repost later

Bet the Goldman family is thrilled to finally see this animal behind bars.

Craig, I loves yur hair, and I loves it long, too.

Funny topic. But the dark is good. Odd about the beard though.

No explaining genetics.

Glad you're back with KO.

tt

Craig,
Whether you dye your hair or not (former cosmetologist here; and I'll never tell) is beside the point. We love you no matter what. Like Mama said in 'The Jerk': 'I'd love you if you were the color of a baboon's ass!' And I (WE) mean it, too. =)

O.J. Simpson Found Guilty in Robbery Trial

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/us/04simpson.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

Luv it Craig,

Pushing/pulling the car out of the ditch and then remembering there's no gas in it. LOL Been there, done that.

Finally justice.

tt

Craig,

Secret Ceremony

Leonora, a prostitute, mourns the death by drowning years earlier of her daughter. She encounters a strange waif-like girl, Cenci, who bears a strong resemblance to her lost child. Cenci is herself struck by the great resemblance of Leonora to her own mother, whose death the mentally unstable Cenci has been unable to accept or even acknowledge. The two women quickly develop a symbiotic relationship, moving in and out of the illusion that each is the lost loved one of the other. The complicating factor is the arrival of Albert, Cenci's stepfather, whose incestuous attachment to her may well be the cause of her mind's unbalance. With Albert's arrival, no one in the strange trio is safe

Christiane Amanpour was great on Bill Mahar tonight. A little on the scary side talking about US position in the world. Bush has done a huge amount of damage.

Shangling was hysterical, Johnny Carson/Charo line was priceless.

Great column from NOW as usual

http://www.now.org/news/note/100308.html

Hey Craig, love the new hair dye. Oops, just kidding. Back when I had a fuller head of hair, I had the same situation as you. Dark hair and graying beard. And I hate having a gray beard ! Some people even said, seriously, "I think you spilled some mayonnaise on your beard"...

LOL

Oh what a great visit on Olbermann !! You're funny and witty and spot on.

euro tom'' you from minnesota ? i lived in st paul from
1976-80''' coldest place on earth

Perhaps OD was pissed about the references to GORDO, but heck, everyone has a reputation. Lighten up my man! You know I was totally for Hillary and still wish she was our nominee. But, I must confess, Barack Obama was exemplary in the first debate, and Joe Biden was even more so in the VP debate.

Anyway, try to enjoy the atmosphere... It was a bit light hearted and well deserved.

Yo Gordo, grow a set of balls and say what you have to say already. It has officially gotten old. Speak out while you still can.

yes I grew up in Minneapolis... I left in 1984 after the miserable winter of 1983. Never could stand the cold !! I moved to Seattle, got a passable education, met someone on line, quit my job and moved to Europe.

CHAMP SUX. LOL

Yeah Gordo, before "they" have you silenced.

tom
yea' everyone should have the pleasure of experiencing -40 with wind chill of -80 below
my mississippi blood had ice crystals in it

Well now we know why McCain is pulling out of Michigan:

"It now has 350 paid staffers in Florida, a budget of at least $39 million and more than 50 offices everywhere from heavily Republican Pensacola to the Democratic stronghold of Fort Lauderdale.

Mike DuHaime, Mr. McCain’s national political director, acknowledged that the McCain budget was smaller (he did not give a dollar amount), though it is expected to grow now that the campaign has pulled out of Michigan. Mr. DuHaime also said it was clear that the Democrats were “trying to emulate what Republicans have done” by contesting areas where they had little hope of winning. "

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/us/politics/04florida.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

Let your freak flag fly, Craig.

Crosby Stills Nash Young - Almost Cut My Hair

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zdB1zyjI48

I was watching late baseball and just checked in here, so I couldn't helpout with the Sundance problem...I was watching Sundance at 5:00 AM yesterday, they showed "Winter Soldier", a fine docu about the testimonies of Vietnam soldiers...you that have seen it know how powerful it is.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Funny you mention "Plan Nine from Outer Space", a very camp film by Ed Wood. I use Tor Johannsen's (also called Tor Johnson) photo from that movie to illustrate MY haircut of the past nine years.

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t138/amydgphib/tor-johnson-1.jpg

That was gordo, not GORDO. Just another wannabe, impersonating the master.

You guys can go back to St. Paul now. They haven't had a monster winter since '96 - '97. It must be Global Warming.

In '74-'75, cattle froze standing up near Madelia - SOUTH of the St. Paul. brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr '78 -'79, '83-'84, and '91-'92 were also hellaciously gawdawful winters. St. Paul was like Pt. Barrow with traffic jams.

The movie can't be worse than "the green berets", which ends with the sun rising in the west over Cam Rahn Bay. It must have been filmed in an alternative universe.

st paul a tropical paradise now ?
its a fine place 8 months out the year

mqw,

How you exaggerate. I'd have said 6, or 7 at the very most. June, July, and August can be heavenly.

On the positive side, the winters keep out a lot of riff-raff. F'rinstance, I don't think oj has been back since USC beat the UoM in Sept, '64. CA can't boast that !

Obama Spends $350K On Ads In Omaha, Versus McCain's Zero

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/03/obama-spends-350k-on-ads_n_131631.html

Has McCain blown through his 85 million already from the fed? He can't take anymore donations.

"...He can't take anymore donations."

Democracy to the highest bidder.

Obama winning is driving you crazy aint it champ?

LOL. makes it so much sweeter.

Q : Why is the fake gordo beating up on champ ?

The real GORDO doesn't need a defender. He just needs a little evidence. Just a teeny little bit.

G'night all. May you all enjoy sweet dreams of Minnesota : the entire state looks like a beautiful white beach, 3,000,000 cars refuse to wake up one morning, thermometers are stuck at - 64, the air feels hard, 1,000,000 dogs are frozen to the fireplugs, and all's right with the world.

Remember, george will says money is speech. So, the highest bidder is just engaging in free speech. republicans are supposed to love that casuistry because they usually spend X2 what the Dems spend.

It only becomes "sale to the highest bidder" in this one year out of the last 44 in which Dems are raising the most money.

yeah how dare the little people think they have a right to be involved in a campaign.

Nope. I prefer Obama to McCain, the old saying about one's relative familiarity with the Devil notwithstanding. I'm not falling for Obama's bullshit, either. I'll believe it when I see it, as far as his integrity is concerned. I understand that "integrity" is an alien concept to you.

You root for your candidate like a Nascar fan roots for his favorite driver. You're just as stupid, and you don't even have the convenience of blaming it on the alcohol. Enjoy your empty victory, because both God and I know you have nothing else in your life for which to live. That would be a sad statement, if you weren't such an asshole.

re: hair
think: trent lott

there's a special sector across the river styx reserved for those who conjure up the image of trent lott on an otherwise beautiful saturday morning......

the Fundamental Problem is the American People can not understand that Barack is actually More of the Same failed fiscal Policy.
John can try to shift everything
But if the People do not get it - That Barack will use fiscal policy to drive social - John is sunk and so most likely is our economy

Its the Ameican People understanding fiscal policy, Craig !
that is the alternate title ....

Did George Bush become complacent and a de-facto liberal to appease Dems on the War?

Is this way he abandoned sound fiscal policy which is why we are in the mess we are in today?

XR,

Guess you've never been to CRB. Depending on where you stand, the sun would appear to be rising from the west:
http://www.americans-working-together.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/da_nang_and_cam_ranh_bay.jpg

Keith Olbermann comedy show....
make a statement, Stupid started in honor of KO

Do you think KO is getting the message? Is he really being canceled after the election?

What is the impact of a more active Jack? with the long arms still

Rez,

I'll tell today if I see her.... thanks for responding
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Here's a shout out to OD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn-enjcgV1o
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Haircare and related products industry account for Billions in the US economy. ----hard to find an exact figure for 2007

Well, the morning after the big debate this week I finally got an "Obama-Biden" sign and stuck it out on my front lawn. And today, I'm dusting off my American flag and hanging it on my front porch until Election Day (bringing it in nightly, of course).

We're on our way back to America, folks. It's been a long and scary eight years.

Remembering Paul Newman, by former commenter, Goodmorgnn

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFdurqMYEs8

sturge, unlike achilles perhaps trent's and craig's heads only were dipped into those stygian waters.
btw, hades is not so bad on an oct saturday with leaves ablaze and red suns rising in the west.

do you see your light come shining, from the west down to the east?

if you do, then I guess that any day now, or any way now, you shall be released.......hope it's not positivley on 4th St.

we dont get much in the way of red leaves here.....it's hot for much longer than you can stand it, then it's not so hot for a week or so, and then it's cold again......
But still sooooooooo much better than florida......lol

This is why they should loose -- "For Sarah Palin, Thursday's night’s debate was an open-book exam. She spent much of the evening methodically reading and rehearsing answers from “carefully scripted talking points.” Palin’s notes were largely hidden from plain view, resting behind the lectern where she stood. Because the cable and network television stations did not show a split screen of the debate, most viewers could not see that, during Joe Biden’s answers, Palin spent almost all her time looking down and studiously reading her notes. But viewers did see that when Palin delivered her answers, she would repeatedly glance down to check her talking points. ThinkProgress has compiled a video documenting some of the instances where it was clear to the audience that Palin was propped up by written responses. Watch a video compilation."

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/03/palin-can-read/

Sarah Palin on today's college gridiron matchups:

"Ya know, I'm gonna be watchin' some college football today, doggonit. And I'll really be annoyed if all these hard-workin' coaches put their offensive teams out there on that big, beautiful field to play the game the American people wanna see -- only to have some darn opposing coach put a defense out there on the field to filter that message. And then to have all those inside elite sportswriters clobber them by reporting what happens. If that happens, I think they should just start playing basketball."

sturge, satuday's autumn leaves just for you
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk5Eem466gU&feature=related

Heck of a job Hanky

SFGate
Back to Article
SFGate
Fear stalls bailout's effect on credit market

Sam Zuckerman, Chronicle Staff Writer

Saturday, October 4, 2008
With or without bailout bill, U.S. stocks drop (Bloomberg...

Anyone who thought approval of a financial bailout plan would cheer up markets and give the economy a shot of momentum got a rude awakening Friday.

The initial verdict was dismal. Stocks added new losses to close out a highly volatile week that saw the sharpest drops in share prices since the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, as well as some significant upswings. And the loan markets whose troubles are at the core of the financial crisis showed no signs of unfreezing.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/10/04/MNAE13B5IU.DTL&type=printable

Gov Ahhhnold is planning on asking Hanky Pank for a loan
I wonder if the Shrubians will channel Gerald Ford and tell him to take a hike.

mighty fine, mighty fine.....I can almost see the cascading leaves.......brava on the Piaf and I never knew of the 2 separate williams recordings......I do this song sometimes but I sing "When all them leaves....."
lol........(I like to mangle lyrics)

glad you liked it.... one more time with joe pass on guitar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=795sG19cPmU

Project Censored covers the most under and unreported newstories....(The project is located at Sonoma State University too local pride!)

http://www.projectcensored.org/

This morning's Times opinion section has a full-court press against Mrs Palin. They must be really scared of her.

Her remarks about the authority of the VP are being hit the most.

I've looked at the Constitution (but not the 200-plus years of developed interpretation, nor the contemporary writings of the founders) and have my own understanding of what it says.

Basically, I see two constitutional 'attributes' of the office:
--Taking over the executive branch should the president leave the office vacant.
--Being president of the senate (with the authority to break ties).

What I don't understand is what authorities are inherent in being president, i.e., presiding officer, of that, or any, body.

Would a president be able to recognize individual requests to speak? Would a president be able to rule someone out of order? etc. etc.

I make no claims of having any special knowledge of the Constitution; I simple want to gain more knowledge.

Oh, and if the VP is inseparable from the president, why can't the president deputize the VP to perform specific presidential functions, in the name of the president, with the president ultimately being accountable for the performance of those functions?

Katherine.....2 stories on sweetgrass baskets and a half million award for one of the practitioners......

http://www.charleston.net/news/2008/oct/03/reward_sweetgrass_art56623/

http://www.charleston.net/news/2008/sep/23/a_heaping_basketful_good_fortune55423/

simple = simply

Sturg

Thanks for the links. Those McArthur grants are great. What a wonderful person to recognize.

Sturge

And The Dead Leaves in the original French

Les Feuilles Mortes sung by Edith Piaf's lover (and many other ladies), Yves Montand

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=uBd2H1Newm8

caller on cspan just informed the viewing public that Michelle Obama was born in Iran. I dont think it was gordo.

Watching C-SPAN can be very frightening.

letters to the editor, Charleston Post and Courier

Blaming the poor

Commentators in The Post and Courier have indicated that the recent failures of financial institutions are the fault of consumers purchasing homes they could not afford.

These buyers ("nothing down," and "cheaper than rent") apparently forced bankers to provide subprime ("exorbitant interest rates") loans, with mortgage origination fees and high late charges.

The buyers then apparently demanded that investment bankers bundle these high-risk mortgages with lower-risk mortgages into securities. They then urged bond-rating firms (remunerated by the bankers) to ignore the buyers' inability to pay and pronounced the securities "market grade."

The homebuyers then cajoled reluctant high-commission stockbrokers to persuade investors to include these securities in their portfolios.

But, most impressively, these unsophisticated buyers convinced insurance giants like AIG to sell "credit default swaps" (insurance policies) in case the whole thing came tumbling down.

Commentators failed to note that the ability to service homeowners' mortgages might have improved had the real wages of working Americans not shrunk during these years of "trickle down" economic prosperity.

Nevertheless, if the poor are to be blamed for Wall Street's pains, there remains in this world, ironically, a measure of justice.

David Myers

Gadsden Street

Charleston

•Last week I said my 401(k) was down to a 201(k). Now, in the words of reader Tony Spremulli, it’s become a pre(k).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9R0q75JpDw&feature=related

"This morning's Times opinion section has a full-court press against Mrs Palin. They must be really scared of her."

appalled, not scared.

today's threadcount

Only One Poll Counts in Politics by Count Thomas Dewey

"appalled, not scared. "

The Times has forfeited the right to be appalled.

An October surprise to shift minds back to national security during the next 31 days, sooner than later because of early voting, could well be either the U.S. or Israel taking military action to stop the Iranian nuclear program.

"This morning's Times opinion section has a full-court press against Mrs Palin. They must be really scared of her."

Flatus,

Probably closer to cringing in total disbelief. I keep expecting to wake up to the news that McCain hollering, "Punked!"

Flatus question for you. A common charge of many if not most of the Clintonista during the primary season was that Obama lacked the experience to be commander in chief. All things being equal how can you and the rest of your PUMA cadre possible support a light weight like Sarah Palin. It defies common sense.

"Dumbing Down The GOP"

http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2008/10/04/dumb/index.html

Beautiful tribute to Paul Newman from Dick Cavett

http://cavett.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/03/tis-but-a-man-gone-but-what-a-man//

But Craig. I like the Eddie Munster look...I have a thing for Eddie Munster. Couldn't resist. Now, I am off to see Al Gore.

the Fundamental Problem is the American People can not understand that Barack is actually More of the Same failed fiscal Policy.
John can try to shift everything
But if the People do not get it - That Barack will use fiscal policy to drive social - John is sunk and so most likely is our economy

Posted by: Ping Pong | October 4, 2008 7:28 AM

Ping you are a broken record. You have offered positively NO evidence to sustain your claim that Barack Obama or the Democrats are about the "same failed fiscal policy". The people don't get it because you are off your fricken rocker on this one. If you are saying that because they are both capitalist parties, I can agree with you.

The biggest mistake that is being made is that the US Government does not just nationalize the banks and take control of them immediately as has been done here. It's a far more sensible approach.

Craig...must comment on your lovely hair...I was trying to find a link for an article in Business Week about male boomers using LESS hair dye....but, unable to find. I did run across the inventor of many 'self-medication' products such as Grecian Formula, Clearasil. etc.

http://www.referenceforbusiness.com/history/Ci-Da/Combe-Inc.html

well blonde wino, do they make anything for dyeing gray into your hair. tired of these accusations that i dye my hair.

Craig be careful, you don't want to become the "Breck Girl" of punditry! I sure didn't help Edwards!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJpNSJSab04

For those of you dissing the Cubs (that happened yesterday)

You can't hurt Cub fans because we'll always have this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xBxZGQ1dJk

"Like it or not, the record shows McCain is the real reformer and the real deal, while Obama is what most of the 18 million Democrats who voted against him know him to be — a snake oil salesman who has managed to bamboozle a lot of dumb, impressionable people. The Democratic ‘Mr. Goodbar’ has dumb media blonds like Keith Olbermann, Chris Matthews and almost everyone at Newsweek, the NY Times and CNN eating out of hand."
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/03/how-democrats-can-defeat-obama-see-mccain-win-still-get-everything-they-want-and-respect-themselves-in-the-morning/

Gallup Daily: Obama Maintains Significant Margin
Lead is eight points, 50% to 42%

http://www.gallup.com/poll/110932/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Maintains-Significant-Margin.aspx

Voter preferences appear somewhat stable at the moment, as Obama has held similar advantages over McCain in each of the last three individual nights' polling. That includes Friday polling, the first interviews conducted following Thursday's widely viewed vice presidential debate, the passage of the economic rescue bill supported by both Obama and McCain, and Friday's bleak jobs report.

craig...since halloween is almost here, you can buy a can of spray gray hair for a couple of bucks. Works just like hair spray...

http://www.projectcensored.org/

Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker Author Profile Page | October 4, 2008 9:27 AM

Thanks again, KGC

craig, sorry about the 6:58 post, no offense meant. it's not the color (which looked great on ko video, a deep dark mahogoney) but the lott-like helmet/mullet cut. listen to your mom. mama knows.

craig...do not dye or cut your hair until the GE.

I wish McCain supporters would just stop insulting everyone's intelligence (and yes, that includes their own) by claiming that he will be an agent of change or a reformer, or everyone's favorite maverick.

McCain is none of those things anymore if he ever was. He is doing and saying anything he needs to win a presidential election.

If that means embracing a man that used horribly racist attitudes in South Carolina to derail his presidential campaign he's done that. If it means accepting noxious conservative attitudes that he never held before now such as advocating the overturning of Roe vs. Wade, he's done that. It that means making the most cynical of all moves by adding a woman to his ticket in the hopes that the feeble minded of Hillary's supporters will flock to his campaign because his running mate has ovaries, he's done that.

This is not an honorable man any more. He has changed his core beliefs and values in an effort to win the White House.

It is your right to vote for him, no one is disputing that. Just stop calling him a reformer or a man that wants to see the status quo changed in Washington. It isn't true and you know in your heart of hearts that is the case.

So stop the nonsense. Support your candidate if you so choose but in the words of Frank Drebin from the "Police Squad" movies, "Don't piss down my back and tell me its raining ..."

Craig: There is nothing wrong with your hair! LOL And may I say how nice it was to see you on Countdown.

I was wondering why he's talking to you again, though.

FWIW, last night's worst person segment was classic!

National Gallup Tracking Obama 50, McCain 42 Obama +8
National Rasmussen Tracking Obama 51, McCain 45 Obama +6
National Hotline/FD Tracking Obama 48, McCain 41 Obama +7

Talk about a race solidifying.

Flatus,

I guess you've never been to Earth. The sun always rises in the East here, whether you are at Cam Ranh Bay, Buenos Aires, or Hollywood. The movie, "the green berets", very cleary showed the sun at the horizon. John Wayne and the context of the film both identified the event as the sunrise. Yet, it is obvious to anyone who has ever been to Cam Ranh that the camera had turned away from the base, to face West, across the Bay. The map you supplied above, clearly shows that Cam Ranh Bay lies WEST of the Peninsula. I wrote that the movie depicted the sun rising over the bay, not over the ocean. Therefore, if the solar event is on the western horizon, and the movie calls it a sunrise, the film's finale is a final comedic FU of Hollywood epic proportions. You either didn't read what I actually wrote, or your brain didn't process my statement effectively, even after seeing the map.

Get some glasses or see a shrink.

oh patd, guess i'll take your mullet hit. mom says i look like a pumpkin head

And they say the only thing people talk about regarding women politicians is their hairstyle. Guess the same must be true about talking heads...

BTW, did anyone notice Howard Fineman's hair yesterday? I couldn't tell if it was the lighting, or if he decided to have his hair streaked...Maybe it was just me...

Just like the other two of the trio of Pelosi,Obama and Reid. Reid opens his mouth when he should have kept it shut.. as if the economy and people's fears re the economy are not bad enough.. The three musketeers take their turn to show their judgement is far south of the brain..

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122307428150903783.html

Oh come on Craig, your head isn't that big, more like a large honeydew but not a pumpkin! :)

spike I've often speculated as to Fienman's use of five and dime hair dye.

GA Karen

At least McCain and Palin have outlined what they will change. Obama, Biden just keep saying change , change, trust me.. BS aplenty. But what is Obama actually going to change. Probably everything he has promised he will do exactly the opposite. Like Fisa and his revolving answers on abortion. you know he was for it before he was against it. Both political parties are subject to lying . Obama has made a true art out of bamboozling the public..
Mr Toast quote is so apt.................
Obama a weak man for tough times.

- "For Sarah Palin, Thursday's night’s debate was an open-book exam. She spent much of the evening methodically reading and rehearsing answers from “carefully scripted talking points.”

Posted by: bacaangel | October 4, 2008 8:49 AM

Well, I'll be darned, I said the same thing yesterday...

I'm a visionary, I am !!!!

I am 2/3rd done with watching the debate. Biden is in total command of the issues. Palin is doing better than I would have expected. My reaction to the VP candidates is as follows: Joe Biden, is the tried and true professor and educating the class about the world of politics and social policy. Sarah Palin is the ernest student who has been busy cramming for a verbal exam and doing passable work in giving answers to the questions, but no further. She is not delving deeper and often sounds like she is quoting memorized campaign literature rather than having a full grasp of the issues. She's studied hard, but is definitely intellectually weaker than the professor, at least at this moment in time.

Posted by: EuroTom | October 3, 2008 12:43 PM

"Pelosi,Obama and Reid"

Get used to it Julie, those three are going to be holding the reins of power for years to come!

"At least McCain and Palin have outlined what they will change"

BULLSHIT!

Aside from global warming there is nothing that separates them in any way from the failed policies of George Bush.

If Mqw is still around, a year ago or 2, I was talking to my Mom who lives in Northern Minnesota and then it was - 52 degrees up there and was the coldest spot in the lower 48.

On a completely different subject...maybe I missed the discussion, but the Wachovia buyout battle between Citi and Wells Fargo is kind of interesting, and goes to the heart of the role of the Fed in propping up the banking system...

On Monday, Citbank made a bid for the banking portion of Wachovia for $2.1 billion (excluding the investment and asset management divisions), with the FDIC to take over the mortgage portfolio. At that time, Citi signed an exclusivity contract with Wachovia.

Because they needed more time to conduct due diligence on the entire operation, Wells subsequently made a $15 billion bid on Wednesday for all of Wachovia's assets, including all their bad paper with no governmental assistance.

Citi is arguing that because they have an exclusivity contract, Wells' offer should not be considered. The FDIC appears to have no problem with continuing their partnership with Citi in the matter, even though Wells has made an alternative bid that would not call for the FDIC intervention.

To me, this is a very interesting and troubling development. In essence, we have the Treasury Department, in part through an intermediary, bidding on the assets of a corporation in competition with a private company.

It is my understanding the role of the FDIC is supposed to protect the assets of individuals in the event of a failure. In this case, we have the FDIC acting to take ownership of assets when private sector alternatives are available. In other words, we have the Treasury Department in competition with the market without equal access for competition.

I'm not sure I'm real comfortable with that...

"At least McCain and Palin have outlined what they will change"

That one cracked me up ! What ARE they going to change? The power elite? doubt it. The redistribution of wealth from the lower / middle classes to the upper eschelon? doubt it. Bring us back to a civil society that adheres to separation of Church and State? doubt it. Reel in over-paid CEO salaries and stopping jobs from being shipped overseas to 3rd world countries where workers there can be exploited? doubt it. Create a national understanding that, in spite of what the Repugs have always said, health care is a basic human right for all? doubt it. Stop all the privatization and deregulation that has caused the economy to tank? doubt it. Reel in the credit card industry that charges exorbitant interest rates that keep Americans credit enslaved? doubt it. Stop the ill-advised war in Iraq? No doubt about it... NO !

Sure am glad to hear that are the model of change...

Spike I for one believe the banks should be totally nationalized and no longer held in private hands. To that end, I would also like to see utilities nationalized as well.

Private corporations have proven time and again that they cannot be trusted. Banks, utilities, doctors, hospitals -- they should exist for serving the public need and necessity, not the financial gluttony of the money and power junkies.

funny isn't it Tom, they think they can slap the word "change" on a few posters and they think we are stupid enough to fall for it. The repugs worse nightmare has come true, an engaged electorate.

I proposed this last night, but just so the weekend folks see it. A contest with no prize except bragging rights. What do you think the final count of Electoral votes will be?

I'll keep track of everyone's guesses amd I'll kick it off with

Obama 360
McCain 178

Here is a group I used to be a member of: The Democratic Socialists of America.

"Democratic Socialists believe that both the economy and society should be run democratically—to meet public needs, not to make profits for a few. To achieve a more just society, many structures of our government and economy must be radically transformed through greater economic and social democracy so that ordinary Americans can participate in the many decisions that affect our lives."

http://www.dsausa.org/dsa.html

I realize that in the very conservative USA, such an idea will probably not be realistic and sadly, I think most of us are the worse off for it.

Also I do believe in limited capitalism. Small to medium businesses privately owned. I would nationalize the multi-nationals so that their political and financial power could not be used to further oppress working people around the globe.

I am a business owner. Sometimes I am frustrated at the benefits my employees get... benefits that I do not myself receive. Yet, I am grateful that the system has these safeguards and that nearly everyone is unionized and wages are determined via negotiations between unions, government and private companies. People might think this is a recipe for disaster, but where I live, in Flanders.... we have the highest standard of living in virtually all of Europe.

There are still inequities in the system, and there are certainly super rich. But not to the extremes we see in the USA. And even with our high taxes and the world credit crisis, people are not losing their houses the way folks in the states are.

I vote Democrat because I know the socialists cannot possibly win. The word has become too poisonous in our popular and social culture. Thus I work with the Democrats who at least try to correct some of the inequalities while remaining firmly one of the two major capitalist parties.

Jamie I posted my prediction last night, I guess you missed it:

364/174

http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/president/whos-ahead/key-states/map.html#/map=8bb_M

BTW do you have a cut off date as to when we can amend our picks?

I haven't completely given up on Indiana being flipped.

Tom, I'm too much of a capitalist to agree with you on that, but I do believe there probably needs to be a government-run auction-type market to straighten out the mortgage problem.

A large part of the current situation is that there is not an effective market mechanism to set the price of these types of securities. At this time, there are few too many buyers for the amount of mortgage paper out there, with few too many people having access to the information about that paper. As a result, we don't have a very good idea of the "true worth" of these securities. This then requires companies to turn to "preferred" buyers (primarily the Chinese because they've got all the money) to provide the capital needed.

If there was an open auction of these securities where many more buyers had access to the market, the "true" value of the securities would be set by the market itself. IMHO, there would be a short-term reevaluation of the value of the securities, but at least we would then have a handle on the true worth of the securities that were being exchanged. This in turn would bring a measure of stability into the market.

The government has been doing this for years for treasury notes, which has (until recently) provided the financial stability for which the US is known. In the national interest of financial stability, there is no reason this type of market could not be extended to mortgage securities as well.

Julie Young,

If Obama is weak, what can be said of mccain who one day says the ecomony is ducky, and the next days says it is in such a crisis that he is suspending his campaign ? Do you call that strong ? It seems to me that Milquetoast got it wrong as usual : mccain is the weakling in hard times.

Obama is a hard guy for weak times. Pass it on.

Let's call the cut off date Midnight east coast time on Halloween. Somehow October 31 seems appropriate and that would still leave 20 days until the election.

20 days? Must be the TrailMix Calendar where everyday seems like two

I'm still thinking about one of those deep south states falling. Georgia seems like a likely candidate ... but still considering.

Jamie, I just did the electoral map, and I am going to say 349 for Obama, 189 for McInsane and that's what I say!!!! I don't need to say what states or anything?

It is really amusing to hear republicans trying make a sale on the basis of mcwaffle's machismo.

Somehow October 31 seems appropriate and that would still leave 20 days until the election."

Forget to take your meds dear?

Georgia is just sooooooooooo much to hope for! Dare we dream? I gotta say, watching grampa go down, and go down hard is going to be so sweet.

What the heck is an "effetist"? Saw that is Flatus' post.

What makes you think government is any better for you than private industry, Tom? The US is already a corporate-owned plutocracy. Government is not your friend; never was, never will be.

just finished a good read, timely subject matter....

"little heathens: hard times and high spirits on an iowa farm during the great depression"
by mildred armstrong kalish

[won best book 2007]

ET

No just the number and the time you think the winner will be declared (US East coast time since that is where Craig lives)

I think he meant to say elitists, just more of that cultural war, divide everyone into groups and set them against each other as means of winning an election. The last rattle of the dieing corpse of the Atwater-Rove method of electing a president.

And Jamie I'm willing to bet on a filibuster proof senate too!

"What makes you think government is any better for you than private industry, Tom?"

Cause govt. is answerable to the public, industry is answerable to it's stock holders. And please spare us the govt is controlled by whomever you think it is controlled by. Cause if you really believed that, you wouldn't care so very much about this election.

I don't know why I was thinking Nov 20 instead of Nov 4

Temporary brain seizure of some sort. ;-)

Okay. Make the cut off date Saturday, October 18

I don't care so very much about this election, idiot. Put words in someone else's mouth.

Oh I know why. The innaugural will be Jan 20. Just want to get there FAST!!!!

Anyone have a suggestion for me...

I just tried replacing the sprayer on the kitchen sink since the other one is broken...I have followed the directions completely yet now, I can't get the head to fully seal an now water leaks...even if I put the old head back on...needless to say...wtf and help!

I think 4 days before the election is too close, any idiot should be able to call it at that point, how bout a week before election day as the cutoff?

You should just get an entirely new hose/nozzle that comes pre-assembled, or just take the rubber washer out of your garden hose and cut to fit, screw together tightly.

I do believe that craig asked us not to call each other idiots.

did you use teflon thread tape where it screws on?

Got pipe tape Bear?

Ok, imbicile. How's that? Or would you prefer moron?

Champ, chill. Damn you're acting like I tried to steal your lollipop.

Bear -- J-R Cold Weld...it will seal anything...permanently...

Seriously, did you put any teflon tape on the threads? Got to do that or it will leak...

My .0178 Euros...

No, I won't chill. You can't have your cake and eat it, too. Don't reply to post that aren't addressed you if you don't want my attention. It's that simple.

Well the initial problem seems to be the clip that doesn't keep the hose in the adapter...

I agree that I am going to just get the hose and head...i just worry that I don't have the right wrench to get the hose off...man this is fun...

Seriously Champ, find a better way to workout whatever play ground horrors befell you.

Obama is a hard guy for weak times. Pass it on.

Posted by: xrepublican | October 4, 2008 3:23 PM

"Obama is a hard guy" ... oh? (very wicked grin)

Ok I'm passing it on !!!

Bear, I was going to say that it doesn't sound like you have a big enough wrench. When in doubt, always use a bigger wrench (:>)...

LOL, was it something I said?

What makes you think government is any better for you than private industry, Tom? The US is already a corporate-owned plutocracy. Government is not your friend; never was, never will be.

Posted by: champ | October 4, 2008 3:38 PM

Champ it is that way because government has been in bed too much helping corporations do their own will instead of reeling them in and controlling the excesses. In the history of the US, the executive branch has pretty much always had the open door for the rich capitalists. Remember, the US constitution was created to allow a standing army to protect minority interests (monied property owners, etc.) from the agrarian majority who were agitating to get a piece of the pie and out from under the robber barons' debt clauses.

The multinationals are becoming more powerful than the nation state. The only way to reel them in is to change the economic system. Not going to happen I know, but it's worth at least reading about.

Bear -- and from the sounds of it, you're in real danger of re-roofing the house before you're all done (:>)...

Step One: Replace the sprayer head.
Step Two: Replace the sprayer head and the hose...
Step Three: Replace the entire faucet...
Step Four: Replace the sink
Steve Five: Remodel the kitchen...
............
Step One Hundred Forty-Seven: Re-roof the house...

Take it from one who's been down this slippery slope...

Champ your oct,4, 3:38 post

I agree----I may be wrong but I think there are 3 principal functions of the government'

1- Military/ security and safety of it's citizens
2-Financial security
3-Maintenance of highways,bridges, roads etc.

During the last eight years under the republicans they have failed, fallen way short.They can ( and very often do) confuse the citizenry, but they can't expunge what is very apparent now.

What is sad is thast they just take turns f---ing things up one way or the other, it will never end. GREED GREED and more GREED.

The legislative branch is the one that's bought-off, Tom. Worst part is Reps and Sens come very cheaply, sometimes as little as a few thousand dollars to their campaigns.

sophisticated project underway by a consortium of USA and Anglo oil companies that will syphon off vast amounts of Mexico's oil that lies underneath the Gulf of Mexico. Through a huge offshore oil platform strategically constructed adjacent to an immense Mexican oil field, Chevron , Shell and British Petroleum will be syphoning over 100,000 barrels of oil per day that rightfully belongs to the people of Mexico. At the current price of oil of $138/barrel, the theft will amount to approximately 167 million dollars per year. Please refer to graphic detailing this sinister plan at left.

There appears to be no limit to the greed of oil company giants. What they can not conquer through military aggression, as in Iraq, they will obtain through common thievery. The thievery by Chevron , Shell and British Petroleum of Mexico's oil is no different than if your neighbor siphoned and stole your gasoline from your automobile. There has to be, and if not there should be, an international law against this type of larceny.

Champ-- that is the D's and the R's take turns fing it up

cool Jamie.

Spike,

I fear I'm on that slippery slope so I make it a point to get a cold drink and sit on the couch to watch football...

Now I off to mow that back yard

We're on the same page, Solar. It's all irrelevant anyway. The grand experiment has failed. There are no more Americans- just Republicans, Democrats, and the marginalized. the ruling class is content to have us all fight among ourselves while they steal everything that's left from right under our noses. Hell, they even document it in the papers they own. Un-fucking-believable.

et, maybe flatus meant effete-est, especially def #2
since he was referring to "coastal liberal effetists"

ef·fete (-ft) adj.
1. Depleted of vitality, force, or effectiveness; exhausted: the final, effete period of the baroque style.
2. Marked by self-indulgence, triviality, or decadence: an effete group of self-professed intellectuals.
3. Overrefined; effeminate.
4. No longer productive; infertile.
[freedic]

Obama gets high marks on credit crisis

With the dust still settling on a bailout, Barack Obama's response to the Wall Street credit crisis appears to have helped the Democrat open up a lead over Republican John McCain in Pennsylvania.

Obama's overall lead in the poll has increased from 4 points to 12 points in the last nine days, hitting 51 percent to McCain's 39 percent on Friday.

http://www.mcall.com/news/elections/local/all-a4_5poll.6616108oct04,0,3803430.story?track=rss

McCain will start reducing his forces in PA in about 10 days to focus all his efforts on Ohio and Florida. Very soon it's not going to be about him winning, it's going to be about him trying to reduce his loss to a some what respectable figure.

Thank you patd. I was thinking it had something to do with being effeminate, and I was hoping that it wasn't a word used based on affectional orientation. I also go with number 2...

Tom

Champ

I do have to disagree a little bit with you here.

It's has to be a lot better here, than in most other countrys, at least we can voice our opinions, that's one thing that the corps. can't take away Capitalism is looking a little shaky around the world ha, should have a blend of both, social and capital isms?

I hope McCain moves his forces to Arizona... He might be vulnerable there...

Capitalism is looking a little shaky around the world ha, should have a blend of both, social and capital isms?

Posted by: SolarCrete | October 4, 2008 4:29 PM

YES Solar YES !!!

Step One Hundred Forty-Seven: Re-roof the house...

Take it from one who's been down this slippery slope...

Posted by: spike | October 4, 2008 4:10 PM

Been there, Spike, literally. Had to replace a cracked counter, ended up renovating the entire house. By the time I was finished 2 years later, had to sell and got screwed by the declining housing market. New owners got a hell of a deal, though, so at least someone's happy.

Correct me if I am wrong, but in the past 4 years, the only thing I can really remember McCain taking the lead on in the Senate are Iraq War, staying the course through the surge, to demanding steroid testing in Major League Baseball.

He may have jumped on as a co sponsor for the Hagel reform bill, but I never heard him champion that cause with the same vigor he pursued steroids...

Enjoy it while you can, Solar. Freedom of speech is a fallacy. People get thrown in jail all the time for opening their mouths in this fair land.

I think he's running out of money Tom.

I already realized that I do need a new faucet and would like new counters. The house has a galley kitchen and I'd really like an island so I have more counter space to cook on...

Question?

On election night, do they report once the west coast polls close or do they wait for Alaska and Hawaii?

Craig, you look too young to have a grey beard. You must have too much whitener in your toothpaste.

Carol

They will report as soon as the first polls close Jamie. They just won't predict a winner of a state until it's polls close.

Jamie, as I remember, there is a self-imposed moratorium on calling the election until after California polls close...

West coast polls Jamie, but I'm willing to bet we'll know the winner by 9:30 EST!

Spike.

I know they don't call any of the states until California closes. They took so much flack about declaring a winner and possibly affecting the vote in the western states. So that is 11:00 PM Eastern. My question was about Hawaii and Alaska because those states don't close until three hours after California.

Tweety will say something like the following "Well now that we've called Florida for Obama I just don't see how McCain has any chance of winning"

Then Keith will say something like "I think it's going to be a rough night for the senator from Arizona"

Champ :

Right again---but I'll take my chances here-I can keep my hands and finger (especialy the middle one) here but I understand where you are coming from

Jamie,

What about them? Having experienced waking up while the NYSE was closing, I'm going to go out on a limb and say they won't care...AK is McCain...Obama gets HI so it will be an electoral wash...

Besides, they are 6 hours behind the east coast...

>>My question was about Hawaii and Alaska because those states don't close until three hours after California.

Unless things are Electorally tied going into the Western Time Zone, AK and HI don't make a difference (but wouldn't it be cool if it boiled down to Hawaii...). Unless we end up like 2000 again, we'll know who won no later than Midnight EST, probably sooner if California doesn't come into play.

Lard I've never been more confident of an election outcome in my entire life. And not just the for the president either. Obama will be elected with a full mandate with heavy majorities in both chambers on the Hill. And he's going to need it to, no president has faced the challenges he's got ahead of him since FDR. McCain is doing a lot of damage to his party in the way he's behaved over the last 3 weeks, and if you read into the numbers in the polls there is an anger at the GOP coming to the surface with the vast majority of the electorate. They are very tuned in, they are very afraid for the future of the country and it's standing in the world, and they are very angry.

Jamie brings up an curious thought...Is there a scenario where the Electoral College would be tied until Hawaii's results are announced? That would almost be better than a hanging chad...

Lardass,

I wouldn't be shocked if he was on the Yankee gravy train, throwing dirt on the Sox in 2004 when they were up 3-0

It's for the contest. What time do the networks start to report the electoral counts. My understanding was that it was 8:00 PM west coast time. Therefor no winner would be announced before then.

Is that true this year?

How does Tucker Bounds stay on message. You expect his nose to shoot through the screen.

Well Alaska has 3 electoral votes and Hawaii has 4 so theoretically you could have a count where one or the other might make it all tied up since Alaska votes Republican and Hawaii votes Democratic

It won't happen this year, but it could happen.

The racism is factor is receding Lard, and sadly it is for one reason, and one reason only. We are so fucked that people don't care what color his skin is, and frankly and sadly I think that's the only way he could be elected.

Lardass

Hello, where you been, boy do I have a half erection story for you, of is it for your blog? anyway--oh never mind, it's still painful.

One thing I think is incredibly encouraging is the polls that show that most Americans didn't buy Palin's phony crap from Thursday night.

I guess the pundits who were so predictably ga-ga were underestimating our intelligence.

Whole Raft of State polls

http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/state-polls.html

Grandpa & Giget are starting to the scare shit out of Main St. USA.

Solar...

That's funny...and too bad the story will go untold. But I actually had to do an emergency shut down of the "Lardo's Retreat" blog. Turns out in a moment of reckless haste, I fumbled my Microsoft Outlook dropdown menu and accidentally e-mailed a potentially important client using my "lardosretreat" handle. When his assistant called on the phone to confirm our meeting, he very quizzically said..."Is it best to contact you at this, uhhh, 'lardo' e-mail address?"

Uhhhh...maybe not. So G-rated, family-friendly sex talk will have to be put on hold for awhile. But maybe in a few weeks I can resurrect the thing.

Speaking of overconfidence, I hope Missouri can kick Nebraska's ass in time tonight for me to catch the opening of SNL.

Lard-----Ok,sure-------remember to smile and grrrrrr a little bit.

Lardass,

I don't doubt that it will turn...people here in TX are joking that the next McCain ad will talk about Barack Hussein, O.J. Simpson Obama

Lard-------and a moment of reckless haste, is exactly what my story was all about,ha ha ha

Looks like I'm out of the woods, professionally speaking.

I just googled "Lardo's Retreat" and the first hit was a small resort town called "Lardos" in the Mediterranean. It's on the east coast of Rhodes, and just south of a town called "Lindos."

The travel site has some pretty funny subheads, such as:
"Why Go To Lardos?"
"Lardos Nightlife"
"Lardos Shopping"
"Lardos--The Place"
"When to go to Lardos"

If only they knew...

http://www.ulookubook.com/lardos

The beginning of Obama's National Civilian Corps "funded as well as our military".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUEQz5dltmI

Bear,

The racism factor is precisely why I combined my Obama yard sign with a prominently displayed American flag on the front of my house. Both went up the same day.

Bring it on, pea-brained racists. You attack Obama because of his race alone, you attack everything America is supposed to stand for.

Here's a good piece on the Catholic vote that just went up at NYT.

"In a departure from previous elections, Democrats and liberal Catholic groups are waging a fight within the church, arguing that the Democratic Party better reflects the full spectrum of church teachings.

It is a contest for credibility among observant Catholics, with each faction describing itself as a defender of “life.” But the two sides disagree over how to address the “intrinsic evil” of abortion.

The escalating efforts by more-liberal Catholics are provoking a vigorous backlash from some bishops and the right."

Link to full story:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/05/us/politics/05catholic.html?hp

Lardo

My son must have been eavesfropping on the deliberations. :-)

http://doodlechris.blogspot.com/

If the GOP is going to limit media access to Sarah Palin, why don't they limit her access to the public by not covering her?

Jamie...LOL. Almost has a Spy v. Spy feel to it.

Jamie...I love the other cartoons on that site as well.

If the public remains doubtful about the value of the bailout and no economic indicators show signs of recovery, it might provide an opportunity for McCain to separate himself from Bush policies.

Bookmark it. He does one every couple of days. I'll put up his latest now since it fits in with the discussion.

posted at 06:17 PM by Glenn Reynolds Permalink

MICKEY KAUS:

If Ohio is still in play, then I'm one of those who looks at the RCP electoral map and thinks, not "McCain's path to 270 ... is narrowing," but "jeez, Obama could still easily lose," even if the polls showing his non-trivial national lead are right. He's got to win one of seven decidedly iffy states (Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, Ohio, Indiana, Colorado, Missouri). You want to rely on Colorado?

The race could still go either way, and may well turn on things that aren't even in the news at the moment.
posted at 06:11 PM by Glenn Reynolds Permalink
http://www.slate.com/id/2201484/#ohiotubes

Dispatch from ballot-design hell: I just got my Florida sample ballot in the mail today, and there are more than a DOZEN presidential candidates on the ballot here. That's even more than there were in 2000.

In case anyone doesn't remember, the proliferation of candidates back in 2000 is the driving factor that contributed to the "Butterfly Ballot" and assorted other design flaws that produced voter confusion, tens of thousands of errors resulting in discarded votes, and ended up costing Gore the state.

Well, at least the Orange County ballot is well designed and not too confusing this year. Let's hope we can say the same for the other 66 counties in the state.

The latest one is up

http://doodlechris.blogspot.com/

Dolly Parton endorses Sarah Palin?

Dolly Parton, our favorite Sevier County songbird, tells entertainment news program "Extra" that she can identify with GOP vice presidental candidate Sarah Palin! "I always say we're very much alike," says the normally bipartisan Parton.

Parton goes on to tell "Extra": "(We're) both small town girls, both a Pentecostalism and we both carry an AK-47." More from Terry Morrow.

Lardo

Since you are around, would you like to hazard a guess about the final electoral count? We have a contest. Tie breaker for people who might pick the same number, what time will the networks declare a winner?

East coast time.

Jamie...

Here's all I'm hoping for: Obama with 271, and I don't care what time.

Somehow, I don't think that will count as a bet.

Julie: The mere fact that Barack Obama is the Democratic nominee in itself represents "change." The Republicans have tried to counter that by putting a woman on their ticket. Nice try, but it has been done before by the Democrats.

One must give the Republicans points for realizing that the country is craving something different. Problem is, McCain cannot claim he wants to change things when he won't extricate himself from Bush and his failed policies.

As others have pointed out, McCain and Governor Avon-Lady have not given the voters any indication that their policies will differ from those of Bush/Cheney. We've been there ... done that. Look at the mess we're in!

While the moniker "McSame" for McCain is cutesy and snarky it is also true. McCain can use the word "change" all he wants but he can't separate himself from Bush for fear of losing the Republican base. At this point it may be all he has.

"et, maybe flatus meant effete-est, especially def #2
since he was referring to "coastal liberal effetists"

ef·fete (-ft) adj.
1. Depleted of vitality, force, or effectiveness; exhausted: the final, effete period of the baroque style.
2. Marked by self-indulgence, triviality, or decadence: an effete group of self-professed intellectuals.
3. Overrefined; effeminate.
4. No longer productive; infertile.
[freedic]"

Right you are Patd. Effetist is a made-up word that I constructed because some people objected to being called elitist.

"John McCain loved Palin's debate performance. Matter of fact, he applauded so much, all the lights in his home kept on going on and off." D. Letterman from 10/3 monologue

Rez: Gramps dissing Dave may be the gift that keeps on giving. I think presidential candidates should think twice about pissing off Letterman.

Not only that, it certainly illustrates that McCain is a liar.

Hi Karen,

DL sure seems to enjoy it. Plus add Colbert, Stewart and Maher. Which reminds me that SNL ought to have another good T Fey send up tonight. She has to direct at least one big jab at Palin's avoidance of questions(changing subject).

SNL should be fun with Queen Latifah as Gwen Ifil

Jamie, thanks for putting together a contest....that makes it all the more fun. Here are the sites I used to come up with my prediction.

http://www.270towin.com/

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/

UB : Obama364/McCain 174

Hey Rez - I got your message, I didn't see my pal today, she most likely had to work. I'll email you later....thanks : )

I time that they (networks) call it or that it happens?

Can you reminds us on the 18 about the ability to change?

If they start talking about numbers at 8 est....I say 10:30

Jamie,

I'm with LL.. . don't want to jinx him with so much time to go and with all the negative crap a coming that's bound to affect some in A-merry-ca.

My "Conservative" affected guess is 297-O/ 241-M

Go Badgers!

And I hope the Phillies get their first sweep!

UB East coast time that NBC announces who they project as the winner.

They do not announce until after the west coast polls close soe 11:00 pm is your starting point.

How long after 11:00 p.m. will the winner be declared.

Lardass

Hello, where you been, boy do I have a half erection story for you, of is it for your blog? anyway--oh never mind, it's still painful.

Posted by: SolarCrete | October 4, 2008 5:15 PM

Half erection? Ok tell us all the story !! :D

But maybe in a few weeks I can resurrect the thing.

Posted by: LardassLiberal | October 4, 2008 5:21 PM

somehow that comment seems to fit in with SolarCrete's comment... :)

Hi UB,

From what you've said I'm surmising your friend is from Pine Ridge. You don't need to pass along my jokes about her home :-) It's just that I have family (nieces, nephews in-laws) living on several of the reservations in SD and everyone teases the others about their home areas. Some of it funny, others pretty hard. You're in the "City" right? I 'd be more curious to learn what brought her there and if she has Am-Ind friends there.

Sooners #1.and go Bosox.

Rez
I 'd like to know more also....she's in the city . Yeah me too in the city).....
I 'll find out what level of internet she knows, and maybe you can learn more about each other. She was very interested in what I knew about you...which was very little ; )

BTW her dog's name is "Stitch" because by the time they adopted the dog it had had so many surgeries. The name stuck, she is pro Obama, maybe a Hillery convert, can't remember....

I'll take 11:01 ....does that work? Jamie.

UB That's fine

I protest UB's projection, she stole it!

:)

Speak up or forever hold your peace. Do you want 11:02?

*whispers in UB' ear* I don't blame you UB, after all I was the only one who called the 2006 exactly right.

ET

Settle down big guy, or I'll start calling you extra terrestrial, you can make a good Politician the way you took a little of what I said, and a little of what Lard said,.and then extrapolated to fit a little story line of your own making, not gay by a long shot, but

Little short story----had a gay worker( he knew that I knew that he knew and so on that he was gay, but we never talked aboutit)he was also my friend, Dick (ha ha ha--not his real name)and I went out to lunch once at a restaurant that had a fashion show, it started about 5 min, after we were served, it was a female and male, both modeling underwear, the trouble was that I was seated in such a way that I could only see the male, modle , and he could only see the female model, we looked at each other and busted out laughing, pick-up the table swung it around and changed seats, he was so happy, he paid for lunch.

11:01

You can't have 11:01. UB asked for it first. You have had almost all day to give me a time. Early bird got the worm. Worm gets 11:02 :-)

then I want 11:01:10

P~~~~~

I use the two sites I posted...lol....I wouldn't just take your number, I was a bit dismayed when it came out to the same number however....

Dismayed? Dismayed did you say? You shouldn't have been!

*smirks*

I am trying to win back some money right now....bb in a bit...poker

don't go looking at the other player's cards!

LOL, ok Jamie. However I'm sure the tingle climbing up and down Tweety's leg will tell us long before that.

I split my winnings....

I won't care who gets the numbers correct, if we get to hear those words!

I have to start concentrating I am up 67.00 bucks....lol

Counting chicks before they hatch?

What happens if people discover a different truth?

yeah Ping ... I wonder what if ? What do you think?

Well Pong you can certainly make your own projection, why not show just how you see John McCain winning. I DARE YOU!

LOL

Ping

This is open to anyone. Make any prediction that suits your fancy

just got a text message......son said he was pulled over for smoking pot.....in his car with expired plates.....he was not smoking anything and the plates are not expired....

Can anyone say "police state"..... geez.....like they nothing better to do downtown.

McCain Campaign's Ad Spending Now Nearly 100 Percent Devoted To Attack Ads

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/mccain_campaigns_ad_spending_n.php

The Cubs game is on TNT for right now. It was supposed to be on TBS the Brewers game has run longer (Brewers up 4 to 1) but has now preempted the movie ... wait for it ... TITANIC!! LOL

Not a good sign, is it? LMAO

Why wasn't he smoking? Did he run out? Tell him to call me!

He's ok I hope.

Hope everything is okay, UB.

DFL U.S. Senate candidate Al Franken has moved into his first solid lead over incumbent Republican Norm Coleman, according to a new Star Tribune Minnesota Poll.

The survey, conducted Tuesday through Thursday by Princeton Survey Research Associates International among 1,084 likely Minnesota voters, shows Franken leading Coleman 43 to 34 percent. Independence Party candidate Dean Barkley is supported by 18 percent of respondents.

http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/senate/30451119.html?elr=KArks:DCiU1OiP:DiiUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUU

he going to a movie, nothing happened....no smoking of anything, just plain harassment...

yeah, I tell him to call you and he'll have me arrested.

New disaster befalls Benelux bank giant FORTIS.

BRUSSELS/LUXEMBOURG (Reuters) – Belgium and Luxembourg scrambled on Saturday to find a buyer for the remains of troubled financial group Fortis (FOR.BR) (FOR.AS) and mulled a further nationalization after the Netherlands took over its Dutch units.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081004/bs_nm/us_fortis_2

The European banking crises is brought to you by the courtesy of the United States financiers and the corrupt Republican administration that turned a totally blind eye to shady deals and financial excesses outside the norms of what was correct and our wise. Furthermore, it appears that even after Enron, very little serious restructuring was really done, and certainly not to the banks.

Tom

McCain 271
Hillary 267

11:00

:)

UB I didn't realize your son is black.

I didn't either...... Maybe he looked black through the windows....Come to think of it the car does have an Obama sticker on it and he was downtown near the Case campus

Times has an interesting video up on it's front page regarding the electoral map.

http://www.nytimes.com/

Dodgers two nothing in first inning.

now I am up only 7.00 ....txt message broke my streak.

So Pro life , only applies to the un-born? Why are pro-life people also pro-war? I just do not understand how that is reconciled in their minds.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/05/us/politics/05catholic.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

"In Scranton, Pa., every Catholic attending Mass this weekend will hear a special homily about the election next month: Bishop Joseph Martino has ordered every priest in the diocese to read a letter warning that voting for a supporter of abortion rights amounts to endorsing “homicide.”

A female friend of mine said today that she thought that Palin's winking and coquettishness was sexist. After hearing what KO said about that Conservative writer guy nearly ____ while watching her, I guess I'd have to agree. It's feminine wiles. Not good for a debate, IMO.

tt

Yes, Jamie. I know.

Tip Toe GAK

We have a contest going. Final electoral count for Obama and McCain on election day. Plus the time the winner will be declared in east coast time. Care to put in a guess?

Jamie, I predicted this more than three months ago. Nevertheless, put me down again for 295 Obama and 243 for McCain.

Voting starts here in AZ by mail as soon as you get your mail-in ballot which was mailed on the 2nd.

Ciao!

eprof my friend, much too conservative a vote! Come on, give yourself over to the idea of a landslide, it's sooooooooooo much fun!

Jamie: I'm way too superstitious to predict. I don't want to jinx any thing. Kinda gun shy after the 2000 election.

Not to mention that I would be horribly wrong. : )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yop7ks9N3bk&feature=related

Good Night All. Have Fun.

Hey,
Punching bag is back !!! LOL

Now question - will you be as open as I should the tide turn?

I predict 10:59:59

Daily Show

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=186052&title=clusterf#@k-to-the-poor-house

Tina Fey nailed it tonight, and Queen Latifah was great as Gwen.

Bear,

Loved the panel discussion with Maher, Alec Baldwin, Amanpour and Shandling.

Priceless; "btw are we getting paid in cash for this?"-G Shandling

AFL-CIO president Richard Trumka offers this moving defense of Obama against racial attacks.

Powerful!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QIGJTHdH50

At least they didn't put Kenan Thompson in a wig, though wouldn't that have been a hoot?

Sarah Palin---The Lady Is A Sham

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QIGJTHdH50

GOP Strategists Whisper Fears Of Greater Losses in November

In the Senate, where Democrats have been on offense all year as they try to attain a filibuster-proof, 60-seat majority, Republican incumbents are suddenly teetering in North Carolina, Kentucky and Georgia because of the economic crisis, according to several GOP strategists closely tracking the contests.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/03/AR2008100303699.html

Cry me a river.

"GOP operatives said the party's declining fortunes are rooted in a series of events over the past two weeks, including McCain's decision to suspend his campaign in order to help broker a deal on the rescue plan and Republican opposition that doomed the bill in a House vote on Monday. Those incidents helped reinforce voter impressions that Washington is broken and that Republicans bear the brunt of the blame, the party insiders said. "

*snickers*

Craig's hair looked great (on KO). It was Howard Fineman's that looked goofy.

McCain officials had said early in the weekend that they plan to begin advertising after Tuesday’s debate that will tie Obama to convicted money launderer Tony Rezko and former Weathermen radical William Ayers.

But Obama isn’t waiting to respond. His campaign is going up Monday on national cable stations with a scathing ad saying: “Three quarters of a million jobs lost this year. Our financial system in turmoil. And John McCain? Erratic in a crisis. Out of touch on the economy. No wonder his campaign wants to change the subject.

“Turn the page on the financial crisis by launching dishonorable, dishonest ‘assaults’ against Barack Obama. Struggling families can't turn the page on this economy, and we can't afford another president who is this out of touch.”

Then Obama says: “I'm Barack Obama and I approved this message.”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14283.html

Everyone ready to rumble?

In keeping with the earlier hair theme, I have an Al Gore story to relate. He told the story tonight at our JJ Dinner about a recent restaurant visit. While having dinner one evening, he noticed one of the waitresses starring at him as she walked by. Later, she walked by and stared again. Finally, she stopped by his table and said, " You know if you dyed your hair black you would look just like Al Gore." Not knowing what to do he thanked her at which time she said, " Wow, you even sound like him, too."

It was the old Al Gore that showed up tonight. He was funny, entertaining, looked good, and spoke with passion. This Al Gore would have been a great President. The Al Gore that ran in 2000, not so much.

Well I guess SNL has found some Democ"RATS" to roast tonight. They seem to have pointed the finger at the DEMS for a good part of the financial mess, and the "NEW GENERATION OF YOUNGER ANTI-WAR PRO OBAMA WHITE COUPLES" who wants everything in "life" but does not want the trouble to have it themselfs.

I don't think the "LEFT" is going to be happy with this latest show.

VJ Machiavelli
http://www.vjmachiavelli.blogspot.com

Just another thought about the "LIFE" issue why not change all the abortion clinics into "TRANSFER" clinics. if you don't what the baby just transfer it into someone who does. I am sure their are plenty of women who would love to bring "LIFE" into this world instead of "DEATH"

Craig get a copy of the skid and lets see what peole have to say about Abortion Clinics vs" Transfer" clinics.

VJ Machiavelli
http://www.vjmachiavelli.blogspot.com

golly, gosh and gee whiz, gordo's morphed into sarah

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/04/AR2008100402126.html

and throw in a doggonit and dagnabit

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct/05/usa.uselections2008

Hope it all works out for UB's son. I'm somewhat familiar with that area of Cleveland. It traditionally has been challenging in the public safety sense. Here's a little more info:
http://www.universitycircle.org/uci.aspx?page=30

"Maybe Senator McCain has reason to believe that it would not be the most colossal of errors to put Ms. Palin a heartbeat away from the presidency.

He’s got just four weeks to share that insight with the rest of us."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/opinion/04herbert.html?_r=1&em&oref=slogin

I have no idea, why the Police pulled him over, no ticket or warning was issued. He's fine, at least he let me know.

The only thing I can think of is that the car has a dent, a spare on the front from a flattire last week, and an Obama sticker, all the lights work, the tags are current, no outstanding tickets....and he drives like an old lady.....

Public safety in Cleveland....(biggest joke going) yeah stopping college kids- meanwhile one block over there are drug dealings on the corners, and young people playing shoot em up with guns.

off to take the bow wows.....to the park...everyone have a great sunday......

Already voted Obama/Biden 2008 !

peace~

UB, glad he escaped unscathed.

I suppose you could add the out of town plates. And, driving like an old lady is something that might seem hinky in totality with everything else. In any case, it looks like no harm, no foul. Thank goodness.

If I understand correctly University Circle has fairly successfully created an island of tranquility in an otherwise 'difficult' area.

I have two family members who work there, one at the university and the other at the art museum--haven't heard of problems they might have had.

Both my grandparents went to school there, my mom got her undergraduate degree there, had a niece get her doctorate there, and I took a summer course in French there while I was in elementary school.

It's a fascinating area.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/its-the-economy-john.html#comment-154899

VJM

There are about 400.000 frozen embryos ready to be implanted in willing wombs. There have been about 100 "snowflake" babies born. A few of them even got to meet the president

Now why don't you do something useful and go roundup a whole bunch of right wing uteri so that those poor chilly zygotes don't get freezer burn and have to be destroyed.

You seem you care so much about "life" that they can't be used for research, so you absolutely have to do the right thing and gather hundreds of thousands of pregnancy machines.

Oh and VJM - You need to go back to biology class. Once a woman is "pregnant", the state of science at this time makes "transfer" impossible

Morning gang.
Even if this has already been posted here sometime over the past two days, I don't care. It's so damn funny it should be posted every hour on the hour:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/03/sarah-palin-debate-flowch_n_131607.html

This went up on Politico last night at 10 p.m....

Exclusive: Obama to call McCain 'erratic in crisis'

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14283.html

Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama has opened up a commanding lead in Minnesota over Republican John McCain, according to a new Star Tribune Minnesota Poll.

The poll, conducted last week among 1,084 likely voters, found that 55 percent support Obama, while 37 percent back McCain.

http://www.startribune.com/politics/state/30470234.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiUr

Lard. one of the Florida candidates for the House has local connections here in Columbia. Had a big splash in this morning's The State:
http://www.thestate.com/sports/story/544917.html

the House = their House

That's an interesting piece Flatus. Thanks.

Okay Jamie...I might as well play.

Put me down for

Obama 307, McCain 231

Winner declared whenever the West Coast polls close. Is that 10 p.m. or 11 p.m. EST?

LL

Got you. The time is the tie breaker would you like 11:03?

All votes can be changed up until 10/18

Sure. 11:03 is fine Jamie. Thanks.

Jamie did you up your prediction on the electoral and if yes what did you change? You're more optimistic than I am, luv it.

Holy shit here's some outstanding poll news!

Amid growing concerns about the economy, Ohio Democrats are coming home to Sen. Barack Obama, giving him a 7-point advantage in a new Dispatch Poll as the volatile presidential campaign swings into its final month.

The Illinois senator's lead of 49 percent to 42 percent over Republican Sen. John McCain comes at an especially opportune time for Obama because thousands of Ohioans already are casting ballots in the state's first presidential election allowing any registered voter to vote absentee. The new setup takes away some of the heft from the adage "the only poll that counts is the one on Election Day."

http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2008/10/05/copy/POLL05.ART_ART_10-05-08_A1_CLBG3US.html?adsec=politics&sid=101

jamie, how about a trifecta?

1. correct popular vote
2. correct electorial vote
3. identify time and network declaring winner

(my #3 is msnbc an hour before polls close....
with ko and tweety fighting over who gets to do it first)

Well with these two latest polls, especially the ohio one I think your prediction may be more accurate as of today! I think McCain is making a real mistake going all GORDO, the people only care about one thing, the economy. If McCain has any hope of stemming the tide he better come up with something real to say on the matter other than the tired old repug mantra of "they are going to raise your taxes"

Flatus,
It's beautiful area....but quite a bubble, you make one wrong move and your life is in danger. So they have made progress, they need to keep the museums, severance and the Case and the Art Institute safe...I get the feeling that, the his car may have resembled one that was reported doing something, after all a silver sadan is pretty darn common.

I love University Circle, you have lucky relatives who get to work in those two great places.

Patd

In all probability, the final popular vote won't be known for several days (possibly weeks) due to counting the last of the provisional ballots. It would make a good percentage to put up as part of the contest. At the moment, I'm thinking 55/45.

The networks seem to be observing the "no declaration" until the west coast polls close which is why the time starts at 11:00 PM Tweety and KO will probably be kept in separate padded cells to prevent a wrestling match.

I'll set it up any way that makes sense to the majority of folks playing. What numbers would you like?

They may have to tranquilize those two in addition to the padded cells.

lol

Speaking of winning. My Dodgers took their playoff games three straight!!!!!! Getting positively giddy.

"The networks seem to be observing the "no declaration" until the west coast polls close"

jamie, i hope that's in writing and they had to sign in blood.
it would be nice to have as few questionable variables as possible and a clean call showing strong support of the majority with a big percentage of registered voters actually voting.

If forced to make a popular vote pick today I would say Obama by 8 points in the popular.

btw, anyone know who's behind these groups called "asian americans for obama" and muslim americans for obama" etc..? the stuff on their sites subtlely smell of rovian dirty tricks. also, who foots the bills for the texasdarlin and noquarter gang? one and the same? the foul odor is reminicent of the phoney arkns trooper scandalmongers and the swift boaters.

AAPI has a sign up section on the Obama website

http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/imas?source=SEM-lb-google-con-aapi-search-national&gclid=CNje4oGvkJYCFST7iAodySyrEw

Jamie,

You and many others here are in trouble now!

"There's a place in Hell reserved for women who don't support other women.'" -Sarah Palin incorrectly quoting M Albright.

Actually, Albright didn't say that. The real quote supposedly is, "There's a place in Hell reserved for women who don't help other women."

Have a great Sunday.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/10/04/politics/fromtheroad/entry4501842.shtml

Muslim-Americans for Obama carries this disclaimer

Paid for by Muslim-Americans for Obama (MAFO) (www.mafo2008.com) and not authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee. As this is an open forum, ...

IT'S THE MAVERICKITY ECONOMY & THEN MCCAIN HAS A FEW MORE ISSUES, MY FRIENDS:
~Keating 5
~Fundamental Deregulator
~Deregulation of Social Security
~Deregulation of HealthCare
~Enron Loophole
~Vicki Iseman
~Brokaw/McCain Friendship
~Infidelity
~Anti-Catholic
~Temperament-Erraticsism
~McCain Campaign Lobbyist ie. Rick Davis & 80 more
~Andrew McCain + Nevada based Silver State Bank
~Andrew McCain + CMKM Diamonds,better known as CMKX
~Palingate/Troopergate Criminal Investigation
~Palins REV.THOMAS MUTHEE
~Betrayus With A Surge To Nowhere In Iraq
~US Council For World Freedom; Radical, Dangerous & Racist Organization
~Vote Against Veteran Benefits At Home
~Anheuser Busch(Budweiser)Cindy Mccain #1 National Debate Sponsor
~*Straight Talk America PAC, *Altria Group, *American Issues Project, *National Campaign Fund, *Vets For Freedom

mornin'.

A rare, I know, visit by me on a weekend, but I have some catchup woek to do, and have a few minutes .

VJ, are you stupid, or wilfully ignorant?

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/its-the-economy-john.html#comment-154899

The only "transfer" of embryos that occurs in the baby biz is transfer of a fertilized embryo - or two - to the womb of a woman who will serve as the surrogate for her own or someone else's fertilized eggs after they have been fertilized in vitro. I think you've been watching too mch of the sci-fi channel.

http://www.drmalpani.com/book/chapter25c.html#How%20is%20embryo%20transfer%20performed

The monitoring that is required to transfer an embryo within the first 2-3 days would make it pretty difficult to extract a good quality embryo - that's the term the IVF people use, not me - from a donor pregnant woman (and how would she know within 2-3 days anyway?) You right wing crazies are not only hypocritical on this issue, but you are also shockingly uninformed - and driven by your zeal to punish women who have become pregnant and don't wish to have a baby for whatever reason rather than a reasoned, informed point of view.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/its-the-economy-john.html#comment-154943

Rez,

I lost my reservation on the heavenly rapture express a long, long time ago

Aside from the obvious problems of being a somewhat crazy old coot with a mean idiot as a running mate, here's McCain's big problem -

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/election_2008/electoral_count.html#previous_changes

Unless something changes big time, his chances of winning enough states to win the electoral college keep decreasing as the election nears.

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Rezdog,

You talking about Pine Ridge higher up reminded me that I keep meaning to ask you if you are familiar with the artist Terri Saul. She's a Native American painter based in Berkeley whose father was a Choctaw chief and an amazing painter in his own right.

Check out her website. I'm steering you to the bicycle drawings, which are my absolute favorites -- but the whole website is worth exploring. Jamie, I have a feeling you'd enjoy it too.

http://www.terrisaul.com/Drawings.html

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