Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

Hey,,, Is it a good morning...
Make it so !!

Yipeee?

Craig - You do a wonderful job of throwing out a high level message with very strong underlying currents – that can really stir the pot. If this is your intent then today you get an A+++

What are the hidden messages?

Two themes for today’s post are

1 Unintended consequence

2 Self Fulfilling prophecy

Like the Duke rape fiasco and Tawana Brawley, I'll have to see some proof about this story. If true, it's awful, If not, it's awfully convenient.

But it underscores an article I was just reading in Vanity Fair, about Rupert Murdoch. It tells about what a gossip Murdoch turns out to be. He now hits the "fashionable tables" and loves to spread rumors. One of them was a tale about a Hillary Clinton confidante being a part of an online porn company. Turns out the story was bogus, but he kept spreading it around. I remember hearing that bizarre little tale. It didn't last long, but it was there long enough for me to remember hearing it.

http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2008/10/wolff200810

wow.......that's really progress when even the muggers are getting into politics......

wonder how long he had to lie in wait for a McCain supporter to show up.......

"wonder how long he had to lie in wait for a McCain supporter to show up......."

ROFL!

Probably just around the corner Sturge.

If you look at the "B" on her face you'll notice it's reversed, just like she looked in the mirror , and did it herself.

More good news for McCain -

TALLAHASSEE -- Barack Obama has opened up a 49-42 percent lead over John McCain in Florida, according to a new Miami Herald poll showing the Democrat earns high marks on the economy and is drawing significant support from the swing voters who decide elections in the nation's largest swing state.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/florida/story/739225.html

Here's another one -

A new St. Petersburg Times/Bay News 9/Miami Herald poll shows Sen. Barack Obama leading McCain 49 percent to 42 percent in this state McCain cannot afford to lose. The biggest factor? Less partisan independent voters moving to Obama by a ratio of more than 2-to-1.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/state/article868614.ece

No doubt it is one of the 40% who who isn't satisfied with waiting on Obama's 'tax the so called rich give to give the poor' program to kick in.

Nice black-eye, the backward "B"? Maybe the attacker is a product of the public school system.

Mis Todd's face -

http://www.inquisitr.com/6137/ashley-todd-political-victim-or-hoax/

ATM mugging or just spreading the wealth?

"Nice black-eye, the backward "B"? Maybe the attacker is a product of the public school system "

Or she could be home schooled.

Very sad story, but if the McCain campaign is going to spin this one incident into one of their fear initiatives, wouldn't the logic be that the country will have a riot if Obama doesn't win & voting for McCain would be bad for America?

SNL was awesome. I still wonder if Hil'ry wouldn't have been the nom if their hadn't been a writers' stike?Once SNL started showing how the media was treating Obama with kid gloves, Hil'ry started doing better in the primaries.

Hell, think of what would happen to this blog if Obama didn't win!

More avenues -

"But then there’s the B. It’s backwards. Maybe the mugger was a dyslexic black Obama supporter? "

Or

" “I’m a cop - 8th year now - and this McCain supporter attack just didn’t pass the “smell test” as soon as I read about it.

At this point, I’ll guess the shiner was inflicted either by a friend willingly as part of this hoax or a boyfriend in a domestic dispute.

The “B” is far to shallow and clean to be taken seriously. Reminds me of the stab wounds that a “hero” would get when fighting off a phantom attacker - far to superficial to have been done in what is a fairly violent encounter.

Either way, I’m voting McCain"

Hmm, the 'B' could be self inflicted. The black eye could be, too. Yes, many (otherwise normal) women do mayhem to their own faces.

Atticus,
Will you offer to defend a possible defendant -- again?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24eL0cWwFxc

Your values should rule the day!

It didn't pass Fox's test either. They suspended judgment as soon as the details started emerging.

Atticus

Values in which I do not need to point out to you do not belong to only Republicans or Democrat, and any that try to take such claim are the true danger.

Susan Smith syndrome? "Big black guy threw me out of my car and drove my children into the lake."

Corey --- I do have those thoughts....

Some of them I fear - the reaction as the class has been stirred up pretty well

besides.......an "O" would have been MUCH easier to carve into someone's face........

CUT it out, Sturge!

Pong, if there's one thing I've learned during this election it's that people here can argue day in and day out, but if there comes a time when they finally share the same views on the election and the candidates, all will be forgotten.

mornin' all.

sturg - it's Texas. It couldn't have been an Obama supporter, well, maybe he was from NM, just traveling through.

From the Inquisitr article:

"The hoax question is such that even prominent right wing blogger Michelle Malkin is calling the circumstances suspicious, and warning others to think first before using this against the Obama McCain..."

sturg - aand it's much harder to draw an O backwards.

Pogo.....I think it happened in Pittsburgh......a well known haven for political muggings

sorry.......i should have said "politically astute muggers".

Corey – To Share we must first define the same views to have something to share. What I find interesting is when we do come to agreement on the view how some embrace their candidates view and others become defensive.

When a reference to Barack Obama as the Liberal Candidate.

And some Republicans do not like to hear McCain defined as Conservative - (they do not visit this blog)

It’s OK to respect the person – and disagree with their politics!

Hey Brain and I are going to dinner – just who pays?

Atticus you going to Join - will pay your way!!

You know if it was a McCain supporter - would not she have used an Axe and not a scalpel?

Good morning all- Don't know where Prof. Marcia is, know she would appreciate this link. Anyways- here's a link for those concerned about sexism." Which is more repugnant: the misogny or the silence about the misogny?"
http://tdg.typepad.com/heidi_lis_potpourri/

Here is some great new for Obama's redistribution of wealth program.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aZRWfr8j_IXc&refer=worldwide

Hey Mr. Obama I got an idea lets increase the tax rates.
Whoever it was on here that has that apple tree, you better hope for a great harvest, that may turn out to be your only source of income with the foolish Obama tax policy. Those of you who think Obama's tax ceiling of $250,000 will not affect you are over looking one important factor. The pool of individuals who make over $250,000 is dwindling with this world wide recession. When that pools dries up he will lower the threshold, or do as Bill Clinton did promise a middle class tax cut, but after he got in office he did not fulfill his campaign promise.

There is a nastiness to John McCain when he is challenged on something.

--John LeBoutillier, on Imus

Sturge- you've got Imus this morning? It's not on up here today- hate that.

Mayella Ewell: I was sittin' on the porch, and he come along. Uh, there's this old chifforobe in the yard, and I-I said, 'You come in here, boy, and bust up this chifforobe, and I'll give you a nickel.' So he-he come on in the yard and I go in the house to get him the nickel and I turn around, and 'fore I know it, he's on me, and I fought and hollered, but he had me around the neck, and he hit me again and again, and the next thing I knew, Papa was in the room, a-standin' over me, hollerin', 'Who done it, who done it?'

And I-I said, "An Obama supporter , an Obama support!'

That's not limited to politicians, Sturge.

Gordo, I think you have exceeded the echo chamber rule of only 3 repetitions of a statement with your post yesterday just after 5 p.m. of "SoetorObama is using the legal system to keep his "hidden" past a secret. Why? Because the documents would show that he is Constitutionally ineligible for the office of POTUS."

Your defense of the blogsite entries is ridiculous. The bottom line is that Berg has no proof of any of his allegations, is a serial conspiracy theorist (remember Rodriguez v. Bush?), is a nut, and he's a poor lawyer on top of all of that.

Oldseahag -
It is not the right time for Obama to step up - he must stay on his limited talking points or Gibbs sends and electronic shock through the collar.

I understand that Joe Bidens collar is now set to Max and they are looking at increasing the battery power.

I will share your link with my Daughters.

http://tdg.typepad.com/heidi_lis_potpourri/

anselm.......I dont care what the democratic tax plan turns out to be......I dont care how it turns out.....it would have to go a far stretch to turn out as badly for america as the last 8 years of Republican skullduggery, taxcuts for the rich, and STUPID WARS, expanding the government, and throwing more fuel onto the national debt......etc etc etc ad infinitum.......

I thought the Times endorsement was incredibly over the top.

Putting it in perspective is their historical record on endorsements, and the content of those 'works' of editorial largess:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2008/10/23/opinion/20081024-endorse.html

I like, especially, their endorsement of Wendell Willkie over Roosevelt in 1940. And Dewey over Truman. And, traditional Democrats will question their choice (twice) of Eisenhower over Stevenson. Oh, well.

My 18 year old daughter doesn't see it. Shit, I didn't realize the extent how deeply imbedded it is in our culture it is until recently. I hope your daughters are more perceptive. It all just makes me sad.

Corey.......You tawkin' to me? You tawkin' to ME??

Didn't mean to challenge you there, Sturge! LOL!

Imus accessed by computer @ WABC radio NYC

cool, thanks sturge!

"Atticus you going to Join - will pay your way!!"

Sorry Ping I'm on retainer , I'm negotiating a book deal for a plumber in Ohio.

Oh, Pittsburgh - right in my back yard. Yes, you are right, sturg. Pittsburgh is indeed a haven for political muggers. (I get a little suspicious of news sources that misspell the name of one of th elargest cities in a state - the Inquisitr spells it Pittsburg).

Here's the Post-Gazette article on the attack.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08298/922489-470.stm

It's a sort of real newspaper.

more on casting in false light (aka almost lying)
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/F/FL_SCOFLA_FALSE_LIGHT_FLOL-?SITE=FLTAL&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Craig, Drudge has that woman's picture and story on his lead page today.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/obamas-righteous-wind-claim-ov.html#comment-162701
Hey Tony,

I saw it too. And thought the same thing. (They sure made him look like a drunk in it too, didn't they?).

You know Tony, whether the movie accurately depicts the last 8 years or not (as you fear), regardless of that, we know enough first hand to see just how sad it is. Irreparable damage. I actually think he's been worse than the movie portrayed him.

Brain - Relax...
Fodder = people considered as readily available and of little value

So when Craig writes something that appears to be a positive Bias - why are you not jumping then???

Umm what would the Ping count be for Craigs post - mostly Dem freindly?

Atticus - Join us - but go Dutch

nastiness when challenged, Incorporated.

".....words that are literally true but carefully crafted to included thinly veiled accusations of wrongful conduct."

quote from above linked article which is apropos to some of our more recent discussions

Interesting side note - Bloomfield is the "Little Italy" section of Pittsburgh.

"SHAME ON YOU CRAIG!"

If anyone should be ashamed of their thoughts, it sure is Craig.

ISN'T CRAIG, THAT WAS ISN'T!

Shame on you Craig for not being like the NY Times and most of the MSM!

Do you not understand the new rules? Drop Journalism and go with the flow.

There can be consequences for not joining the club!

Either join the anointment and drop the open dialogue OR be left behind.

Do you understand? You must not encourage people to think and exam.

Why do you support an open discussion? what is wrong with you?

Yes, Craig, how DARE you comment on something that could be a hoax perpetrated by the McCain campaign in the last desperate weeks of what appears to be a campaign ging south? You are sooo in the tank for Obama.

RFLMFAO

atticus......exactly.........

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/atm-mugging-becomes-campaign-f.html#comment-162879

Ping, Your post pretty much says it all.

And if the world were run by the thought police, that's exactly what would happen.

..or real guts?

Or of the 'theft' of computers from the Acorn office.

What about this one??

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/voter-surge-signals-obama-tsun.html

LOL

Hey, if you ain't cheer leading you're a republican.

I'm just going to clip this quote from Craig.

"This is one of those moments, like Obama's encounter with "Joe the Plumber," that could take on a life of its own "

Notice how it already has. So Craig was this a little experiment on your part?

Jack

OT -
My advice for everyone is to sit on the floor , because when the market opens this morning the shock will knock you out of your chair.

Salon Today: How the puditry got it all wrong.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/10/23/campaign_myths/?source=newsletter

Craig - I demand that you write a post on the clear choice of this election - with true Journalistic research on what the Candidates have actually done as an indicator of future behavior and not the BS of the Campaign Facade.

So Brain – the distraction of this post – is so much in favor of Obama

But CQ is about Politics

Ms. Todd seems to be failing the truth-o-meter test.

You mean this little thing Atticus?

World markets slump on recession fears
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/081024/world_markets.html?.v=21

hoax or not, hope she got a tetanus shot. even self-inflicted wounds can fester.

btw, this may be a sequal to the scarlet letter. b-rated of course.

ATM Girl flunked the polygraph.

"Inconsistencies in her statements to Police" to be precise.

There are so many flags behind Palin this morning that the background stripes are sliding and bleeding on camera.

"I demand that you write a post on the clear choice of this election - with true Journalistic research on what the Candidates have actually done as an indicator of future behavior"

uh oh

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/atm-mugging-becomes-campaign-f.html#comment-162847

Pogo,

McCain isn't a conservative. He just kissed up to them to get the votes and now they are all he has left.

I have no stocks, just my house , so I have nothing substantial.to lose, but I can see the business loss already at my shop in the last few weeks. Honestly am truly sorry for all of you who have worked your ass off, scrimped and saved for your future just to have this all happen.

From the "You can't make this shit up file" -

Palin’s Makeup Stylist Fetches Highest Salary in 2-Week Period

Who was the highest paid individual in Senator John McCain’s presidential campaign during the first half of October as it headed down the homestretch?

Not Randy Scheunemann, Mr. McCain’s chief foreign policy adviser; not Nicolle Wallace, his senior communications staff member. It was Amy Strozzi, who was identified by the Washington Post this week as Gov. Sarah Palin’s traveling makeup artist, according to a new filing with the Federal Election Commission on Thursday night.

Ms. Strozzi, who was nominated for an Emmy award for her makeup work on the television show “So You Think You Can Dance?”, was paid $22,800 for the first two weeks of October alone, according to the records. The campaign categorized Ms. Strozzi’s payment as “PERSONNEL SVC/EQUIPMENT.”

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/24/pains-makeup-stylist-fetches-highest-salary-in-2-week-period/

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/atm-mugging-becomes-campaign-f.html#comment-162853

Cute Atticus Is Harper Lee planning a rewrite?

An avalanche of discontent could revive the outcome of 1992
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/columnist/raasch/2008-10-23-newpolitics_N.htm

Jack- know you are interested in food- Imus just said that Cholula is the greatest hot sauce ever made. I agree with him, have it on my table with the S & P.

Thanks for the earlier link, OSH -- yes, Marcia would appreciate that piece.

My pleasure Patsi!

Jack, whether this will take on a life of its own is a good question - and the jury is still out on that one - right now it's still in the current news cycle - after the security video has been reviewed we'll hopefully know whether it's real or a hoax and know even more about it than Phil Berg knows about Obama's citizenship. Get back to me on Monday if it's still in the news after the Steelers play the Giants on Sunday afternoon to see if Craig's speculation that it might take on a life of its own is correct.

OSH, nothing can beat my homemade hot sauces. Because of varying availability of ingredients, no two batches are exactly alike. Extraordinarily good.

jamie, - Ping's post, not mine.

What's wrong with you Ping? How could you possibly think that because a woman who is a political volunteer for the Young Republicans and McCain is attacked at an ATM, claims that after the attacker sees her McCain bumper sticker he tells her she'll support Obama and carves the first name of the candidate into her cheek that this might be considered by some to have a political angle and could in some way be considered a story worthy of mention on a political blog? You are so stupid. Enjoy your dinner. LOL

The Point Of No Return
http://www.forbes.com/opinions/2008/10/23/thomas-sowell-election-oped-cx_pr_1024robinson.html

Atticus

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/atm-mugging-becomes-campaign-f.html#comment-162903

Makes those Edwards haircuts look cheap, no?

OSH - Cholula is Mrs. P's favorite, as well. (I'm a Tabasco man,myself).

Everyday in the stock market theirs is an October surprise, but if true it is a very sad that someone would do that. if she faked the "B" on her face like some are hinting then it is even more sad.

VJ Machiavelli
http://www.vjmachiavelli.blogspot.com

I thought the floor on the Dow was 8500, but it just broke through. Down over 400 now. It will be interesting to see if it holds above 8000.

A country singer released a song a couple of years ago about a supposed incident where a woman yelled obscenities at her because of a pro-military bumper sticker. The singer made the Fox News rounds, and sang for the troops....but the song never hit big.

I didn't believe that story either.

But you never know. I did have my tire slashed in 2004, right under my Vets for Kerry bumper sticker. And I'll never believe it was anything but political.

Atticus, I'm sitting.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/25/business/25markets.html?hp

And the market is down 400 already. Money market is beginning to look good. Maybe Chinese yuon?

said stench will depart as you go.

ie.....as usual....who smelt it dealt it.......

adjunct to godwin's law:

LYNCH ALERT! LYNCH ALERT!

lol

Funny - If someone scratched a "B" on my face - why would they write it backwards?

On the other hand -- if I scratched a "B" on my own face - and I didn't think about my actions only the result I wanted (my 15 mins, etc.) - it would come out backwards - just like hers did!

Hey CQ, I guess you need a certain level of IQ to debase someone properly. Yet, her motives gives one pause.....

jamie, apparently the market has rules to suspend trading for half an hour if the market falls so many points in such and such a time - Erin whathername was explaining it on the Today show this morning.

Hey for all you super intellegent sluths focusing on the backward "B". You get the same effect when a less than scrupulous blogger inverts the picture.
In the fog of speculation all things look alike, I'm willing to wait before making accusations.

Jack

she wanted to meet mccain and cash in on the joe the plumber syndrome.......probably as simple as that

I don't know what the big deal is. He's just getting a jump on his cut of the spread the wealth plan.....Cut through the red tape and all that....

jack.....hey.....no fair introducing logic into this........lol

Erin Burnett, that is.

Sturge,

You know me , always a trouble maker.

Jack

On a side not...

Poor OPEC is suffering...They have watched their record profits dwindle a mere 45 days and they decided to slash production. I feel so bad for them. They even had to call an emergency meeting.

Note: Sarcasm

Question.

When have any of you Lilywhite Limousine Intellectual Liberals (LLIL) types ever been to a Black barbershop, or a Black church? In the Black community there are 2 places where one goes to discuss and learn of community affairs. They would be the local Black barbershop/hair salon, and church, apparently from the discussions I have observed on this blog that is another place you avoid. But if you did go you would see and hear several things occurring all at once. 1. Obama is receiving 98% of the Black vote because he is Black, on of us. Policies and their consequences are not fully understood. Well who can blame them, as they are all painted with a very large broad rose color brush. 2. Although Obama is celebrated as the first Black who might become President, he isn't fully embraced nor do we see him as some sort of Messiah, as some would have you believe. 3. Unbeknown by most LLIL's, not everyone who is Black is poor, uneducated, a crackheads, lazy looking for a handouts. Something that receives very little attention, under Bush's term in office there has been more wealth created within the Black community than ever before, and a number of us are fearful that this wealth which we worked so hard to obtain will start to disappear under an Obama administration whose campaign promises are murky at best.

jack, that was the way the picture appeared in the P'burgh P-G. They got it from Drudge. Great source.

A backwards "B" when someone is sitting on your chest pinning your hands with his knees? At 6'4", remarkable close to Obama's 6'2", wouldn't her arms be bruised? A medical exam would have proven that but she refused treatment. Hmmmnn. A backwards "B" with a dull knife? Leaves no deep scarring even though it would be harder to cut the skin? And what a neat scar too. Not one done in the haste of a robber on the run. A backwards "B" carved so delicately it barely leaves a scar? What a skillful and considerate robber. Repeatedly punched but only one black eye? No other visible bruising, no scratches from her instictively turning her face away from a dull blade? Hmmmn. And the McCain campaign contacts her at about the same time the story breaks? Hmmmmnn. Sounds like they are now reaching the "Joe-line" the victim of big black man crowd now.

Nice try but the backward "B" blows the premise. Was it done in a mirror that makes it look like a forward "B" in the reflection? The only other crook in this whole story is the mainstream media that runs it before all the facts are in. Ridiculous..

"You know me , always a trouble maker."

That's why we love you Jack. :)

HONOLULU (AP) — Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama says he's not sure his gravely ill grandmother will live to see Election Day.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g3m4YaeYwDHXS6hHdZJi8pm6cZdAD940R8B81

Anselm,
I've got several professional well to do black friends and business associates. They are all voting for Obama mainly because he's black and because the republicans have offered up such a poor alternative. They don't believe in either intellectually but given the choices they will vote to put a black man in office.

jack , I forgot... ~~~~~~~

;-)

Flatus - sounds good- you ought to bottle it!

Max, it was run on Drudge, taken from a blogsite. The Post Gazette reports REPORTS of crimes and the allegations of the victims - no newspaper waits until the facts are in to run a story. MSM running it? Picking up a story, sure. That's what news orgs do.

"They got it from Drudge. Great source."

Pogo
That was kinda my thought at the time and as these type of stories kick my cynicism into high gear. My speculation generator went into overdrive.

lol
I see conspiracies everywhere.

Jack

And to respond to one stupid comment - from the PP-G article.

"Police were checking surveillance video of the Wednesday ATM incident."

Pogo --

TMZ is on the case -

http://www.tmz.com/2008/10/24/mccain-volunteer-attack-more-questions/

I think the Times' endorsement of Obama was posted earlier, but in case It wasn't ...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/24/opinion/24fri1.html?hp

I think that waiter has finally arrived with that check-------if you can't pay it,,,,,to the kitchen we know you can cook-----

Well, Atticus, that should put all questions to rest. With TMZ on the case, no stone will go unturned an no innnuendo unexpressed.

The other day I posted where on your IRS 1040, http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1040.pdf , but where does a Obama's $250,000 a tax redistribution program begin. That part of his redistribution of wealth program is never made crystal clear, and I believe there will be families who are thinking since they make less than $250,000 as reported on line 7, are exempt of this tax increase.

Line 7: Wages, salaries, tips, etc. Attach Form(s) W-2
Line 22: Add the amounts in the far right column for lines 7 through 21. This is your total income
Line 37: Subtract line 36 from line 22. This is your adjusted gross income
Line 41: Subtract line 40 from line 38 (Line 40 is your deductions)
Line 43: Taxable income. Subtract line 42 from line 41. If line 42 is more than line 41, enter -0-

Surprise that may not be the case, specifically if you have worked hard, saved and invested, been responsible and played by the rules. You may sadly discover all your time and effort has not only elevated into the so-called rich column resulting in paying more taxes, less take home pay, but when the Bush tax cuts are allowed to expire you'll bring home even less money. Under the Obama redistribution of wealth program not only will you be pushed you into the 39% tax bracket, but the with the expiring Bush Tax Cuts (this affects everyone not just the so-called rich) you'll end up in the mid 40% tax bracket. The % of people making over $250,000 living paycheck to paycheck are the same as those who make below $250,000. With wealth comes the purchase of more expensive items, and I can see a increase of more costly home mortgages going into foreclosure rising even further under Mr Obama redistribution wealth program. Class envy is so pathetic, and I take it that makes some of you gleeful thinking the so-called rich are going to get theirs. Well remember this, it is the so-called rich who who are responsible for most of the employment, products you buy and use everyday, places where we reside homes & apartments, food, etc., and when their cost goes up, your dollars will buy that much less. Small companies, who are responsible for the largest number of employees, will not be able to withstand the higher cost, resulting in higher cost you, or laying off employees, last hired first fired, increasing unemployment, increasing more foreclosures, more bankruptcies, more loan defaults. Wealth redistribution, isn't it a beautiful thing?

My take is that she passed out from drinking cheap wine and some of her trailer trash friends did a number on her.

OSH

Back to the hot sauce question. I've tried it. It is in all the local Mexican restaurants.
Typical Mexican hot sauce imo,
I tend to use Valentina myself. They sell it in the local stores, (Did I tell you I live in a Mexican neighborhood?)
It is flavorful and cheap you can buy it by the quart if you want. It is a good cooking sauce.

BTW both are named after states in Mexico, I don't know if that gives a regional difference or not.

My favorite chili sauce is a Vietnamese sauce called Sriracha, it has a rooster on the label. It is very garlicky.

I also, ran across a Mexican eating sauce that was chilis in lime juice in stead of vinegar. I can't remember the name but It was good.

Jack

jaxtrader,

All I have to say, under the the Obama wealth distribution program, "Fools and their money are soon parted."

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/atm-mugging-becomes-campaign-f.html#comment-162827

If there is one thing I cannot stand, it's right wing fags... As the old saying goes, being a "gay republican" makes as much sense as someone Jewish belonging to the Nazi Party. Yes I know I will get the "alert" for this, but I point it out only for how insane it is.

Chrysler reported yesterday it is cutting 850 positions at it's Jeep plant in Toeledo. Today it said it's cutting 25% of it's white collar work force.

Jamie - Hey - that was my post !!

And correct McCain is not a conservative..... He is more like Hillary

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/atm-mugging-becomes-campaign-f.html#comment-162915

And Pogo.... Dinner - not yet still thinking about lunch...

EuroTom -

Josh Marshall used "Spring Time for Hitler" as the title for that story.

Jack- Please let me know when you remember the name of the lime one, that really does sound good and I'll keep my eyes open for the vietnamese sauce, it is just about pot sticker time of year. Got any more easy on the wallet recipes? I know I sure could use some new ones, everybody around my house likes the old stand bys, but I could use some branching out.

"All I have to say, under the the Obama wealth distribution program, "Fools and their money are soon parted.""

Ah, that one we understand, situation normal.
No change in position but do we get a kiss this time?
Kisses are important.

Flowers would be nice, yes we would like flowers

Jack

Anselm -

I would remind you that Obama isn't president, and all your "predictions" are currently under way.

--------------------------------------------
My prediction -
We're all going to need rubber suits ...... To protect us from the exploding heads of the right over the next few months.

The future of Healthcare improvement must be driven by Innovation and NOT a big government redistricbution

Big Government will kill innovation

"America’s health care system behaves like a hidebound, tradition-based ball club that chases after aging sluggers and plays by the old rules: we pay too much and get too little in return. To deliver better health care, we should learn from the successful teams that have adopted baseball’s new evidence-based methods. The best way to start improving quality and lowering costs is to study the stats."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/24/opinion/24beane.html?_r=2&ref=opinion&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

Be careful of the authors! Interesting combo

Craig..... man..... if you were looking for a food fight.... you sure got one.....
ROTFLMAO!

Rick and I went to see Bill Maher's movie "Religulous" last night..... a must see for Maher fans..... it was kinda disjointed..... all over the place..... but very funny nonetheless.....

warning...... warning..... danger!.... danger, Will Smith.....
if you are in any way a religious person...... I wouldn't recommend it unless you love getting pissed off......

An internal document circulating among House Republicans warns of an impending congressional bloodbath, listing 58 Republican-held House seats being at risk, and 11 already considered as good as gone. As many as 34 GOP-held seats are in serious jeopardy of swinging to Democrats, the assessment shows.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14885.html

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Suggested wear for the above mentioned boodbath -

http://blogofhilarity.com/wp-content/gallery/9543-sc4.jpg

Atticus -
You have broken M.O. for the Charactor

Keep it up and you will redefine or reveal thy self. You should not soil that which is built in the mocking with such comments

Least you join the contradiction that is Machiavelli

Atticus Finch

I certainly hope you are not one of these lawyers who spends their days on blogs and neglecting their client's cases?

pogo------------

You say Berg has no proof. What proof has SoetorObama provided? An altered COLB image and his word.

Not complicated. SoetorObama does not provide proof because he has no proof.

He is using the legal system to prevent the American people from learning the TRUTH about his "hidden" past.

Documents (those that exist) are being hidden. Why?

Naturalized citizen? "Illegal" alien? Use of non-legal name for about 30 years? More?

He is Constitutionally ineligible for the office of POTUS.

Anselm, oh for god's sake. the top tax bracket under obama's plan will deprive the rich (I use the term advisedly since some of my best friends have AGIs over $250K) of an additional 4% of their taxable income - as it was in the 90s when the economy was doing quite nicely thank you, and there are exemptions for small businesses that may not currently be available to them, so cut the crap. (And if you're going to make a reference to line 42 on the 1040, you should include a reference to how it's derived). And McCain advocates making permanent the tax cuts he decried as fiscally irresponsible. Gimme a break. And that saw about tax increases meaning fewer jobs is horse shit. Bush's tax cuts have produced the job cuts and layoffs we're NOW seeing in real time that you claim Obama's tax increases WILL cause. Speculation based on "common sense" which ignores actual economic forces beats cause effect observations any day for Reagonmists. And never mind that Obama has proposed tax credits for businesses that create jobs here, generating jobs and resultant demand and growth in the economy - McCain has not. But then, the facts don't seem to bother Reaganomists. Demand drives the jobs sector of the economy, not tax cuts. No tax cut ever generated demand for anything, and certainly not among members of the investment classes. Even the tax incentives this year - which were tax cuts aimed at those making less than $125K - piled onto the Bush tax cuts that failed to energize the economy produced a temporary bump in the economy something about the relative size of a pimple on an elephant's ass, followed by the recession we're seeing now. I could argue cause and effect based on that alone, but don't have to. And that month to month thing - if you've chosen to buy expensive houses and cars that keep you living hand to mouth because you make more money than you used to, I'd call that a self-imposed problem and why should we support a tax structure that rewards and preserves irresponsible choices anyway?

Question.
Are these the NEW BLOOD Dems that are Centric as we saw in the last election.

Or the same old liberal - censorship sponsoring - big spenders?

Blue Bloods?

CNBC -

It's not a Housing Bubble it's a "Economic Kidney Stone" -

Time haul some more pinto beans into the bunker. Let me know when you people find the correct sauce .

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/atm-mugging-becomes-campaign-f.html#comment-162965

Oh B.S. We have a far superior health model here in Belgium and it is single payer and it works splendidly. Glad to see you got your own golden parachute insurance Ping. I suppose the rest can just sod off?

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/atm-mugging-becomes-campaign-f.html#comment-162855

and thus by default ... are you saying Pogo that GORDO is a serial conspiracy theorist? I am only asking since the GORDO cheerleading crowd imply that I am the only one who is saying it.

Anselm -
Shouldn't you and Ping be out greasing the wheels of capitalism with the bones of the workers ?

As for myself , I'm in my yurt smokin' my bong.

Anselm
I sure hope you're not taking those insults personally.
I enjoy reading your posts.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/atm-mugging-becomes-campaign-f.html#comment-162976

Atticus, you are cool...

Gordo - Again your posts fall into the Fodder of allowing further the aim from the needed targets of truth.

A truth - Bush was complacent and did not lead - he followed - and allowed huge error in fiscal policy. A policy that is consistant with liberal spending and social agenda - or was this his compromise?

So Gordo and the others that throw out the Fodder.

Would you just stop - Please and take on intellegant arguments that have merit.

pogo,

Your another lawyer, I think, go back and do the math then come back and tell me the difference between the taxes one paid then, 1990's, and one will pay now. It will take some work on your part as you have to adjusting for inflation, deductions etc, removal the Bush tax cuts. Please don't just use Obama magic calculator lol. I hope you weren't a tax attorney.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/atm-mugging-becomes-campaign-f.html#comment-162895

Patd, you have me laughing so hard ... :)

Anselm, got a picture?

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/atm-mugging-becomes-campaign-f.html#comment-162978

Wonders never cease ....

chloe,

My fighter. lol

Dear, I am Black, Gay and Republican. What insults pray tell would I take personally? Especially from people I don't know,and will never know. But I do thank you for your thoughts.

Oh, yes, ET. The Obama BC kerfuffle is just Gordos conspiracy du jour. I can't wait for the next one.

Ping, please. After the last 8 years of utterly failed Bush/republican rule, only the last 2 of which had dems in control of anything, how in the world can you accuse liberals of being big spenders and sponsoring censorship? We've witnessed the largest increase in the size of government in history coinciding with the biggest restriction of free speech rights. You're stuck in the verbiage of the 70s and 80s, and the fairy tales of Reagan's 80s died with Bush 41's recession.

Anselm seems to think that a campaign that spends $22,000 on make-up in 2 weeks represents sound economic thinking. A campaign that burned through all it's money 15 months ago, and had all it's lobbyist friends work for free is the "Free Market" solution we need.

"What insults pray tell would I take personally?"

Good. :)

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/atm-mugging-becomes-campaign-f.html#comment-162984

Well we can work on the Republican part Anselm, but Black and Gay works for me...

I better stop now, Mauro probably won't find this amusing...

Pogo - you confirm my statement!

McCain is not a conservative - he is indeed closer to Hillary

I am coming to the mind that Bush compromised in good political fashion - or for some reason was complacent when it came to the social spending.

Your statement confirms -- That is why the Rep lost in 2006.

Now my other question - is the face of the Dem party moving centric? Some of the new Dem's are a far cry from Obama historic pattern -- Which is good as we will need Balance if things continue

A Finch ....
You need to complete your statements.... Not parse.

A campaign that kept its promise.

How much has Obama spent on vaporware? Now who is the big spender?

My favorite bit of news the last 24 hours was the Atlantic reporter on MSNBC yesterday . He reported that the fellow who picked-up the tab for the shopping spree in Minn. lives in Norm Colman's basement.

Nothing says troll like Norm Coleman's basement.

Thanks Ping .... Time to donate to Obama.

Atticus are you possibly... the professor guy that was always hanging around here?

"Nothing says troll like Norm Coleman's basement."

Atticus is the book's most upright character, representing the moral ideal of both a lawyer and a human being. He goes to great pains to instruct his children on the importance of being open-minded, judicious, generous neighbors and citizens.

nothing says troll like 'you' using an upright characters name

"My prediction -
We're all going to need rubber suits ...... To protect us from the exploding heads of the right over the next few months.

Posted by: Atticus Finch | October 24, 2008 10:43 AM"

Hmm...looks to me like a lot of right wingers have come out for Obama.

Hey Atticus
I sure hope you're not taking those insults personally.
I enjoy reading your posts.

Actually, Anselm, my own taxes have remained relatively flat for the past 15 years relative to my position in the tax structure (and absolutely flat for the past 9 years). Inflation adjusting the tax code and brackets is well beyond my math skills - perhaps you could provide a link to the tax code exressed in today's dollars? You are only spouting opinion and are not proving your points or providing any data that tend to prove them - and I only suppose it is because you don't have the data to do so. Show me where I'm wrong. And no, I'm not a tax attorney, but my wife was before she lost her mind and became a divorce attorney - and we discuss this stuff and she agrees with what I've said.

Greenspan drives stake through the last 28 years of Republican economic theory in 16 seconds -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAH-o7oEiyY

Of course you do.

(Sure glad you don't comment on my posts any more. I'm so greatful!)

Pogo, too bad she couldn't have represented Madonna. That would have been fun.

I am grateful that I am soooo GREAT ful... or sumthin' :D

Narrow minded bigot.

Tom -

I never confuse what's happening on my screen with what's happening out my window.

well it seems the word "troll" gets tossed around here a lot these days. Almost makes me think I am in Daily Kos rather than Craig's Trailmix...

Tom -

No I'm a yurt salesman in New Mexico.

Ping, the dem party I've been a part of for the past what, 40 years, has governed as a centrist party. It's only leftist in the verbiage of the wingnut fringe of the republican party, and while you certainly are closer to that end of the political spectrum than I, I don't put you there.

Compared to right wing ideals McCain may not be conservative, but compared to Obama, McCain certainly is conservative. Simplistic economic platitudes, tax cuts for the wealthy, you're on your own economics, and a promise to cut out wasteful government spending, and a VP candidate who (in words if not in deeds) is somehere to the right of Reagan - sounds pretty conservative to me.

Patsi -

You found me out, I was a die hard winger until I went through the windshield of life.

Ping Pong ----------------

Issues don't matter. This is about the Constitution. SoetorObama DOES have a "hidden" past. I completely understand why people think this is tin-foil talk. It's not easy to explain the magnitude of what SoetorObama and the DNC have done. No matter what happens on election day, the investigations will continue. SoetorObama, Dean and many others should be prosecuted for their crimes. Hopefully, they will do some serious jail-time. The Dem Party has been stolen by these criminals. Look into this. SoetorObama is not Constitutionally eligible for the office. He is hiding documents for a reason -- he has to keep his "hidden" past a secret.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/atm-mugging-becomes-campaign-f.html#comment-163007

LOL - how's the yurt business in NM these days?

chloe -

Try posting something good if you want to draw comments.

yurts sales could be hot in Navajo land. :-) portable hogans

Lunch

Tom -
Not good there's been a mange problem with the yaks. Yak wool has gone through the roof.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/atm-mugging-becomes-campaign-f.html#comment-162937

Anselm,

That is an awful lot of assumptions to make in one post without asking first.

Yes I've been to a black church, black beauty shop, and black church. There have been wealthy black people from virtually the beginning of American history otherwise DuBois and Washington wouldn't have had anything to argue about. I'm sure the stock market is giving them shivvers right along with their white, yellow, and brown counterparts.

Pogo -
Be sure to order the gruel, it's the new post Bush dish.

http://herokids.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/oliver-twist-gruel.jpg

Jamie,

I missed you last nite. If you don't mind, you favoring I-1000?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initiative_1000

Rezdog -

We offer a log model for that market -

http://z.about.com/d/gocalifornia/1/0/n/8/P5101392-A.jpg

Jeeeesuuuuus!

and I thought I was pissing my pants over Maher's movie last night.....

you guys are toooooooo much today........ :0)

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/atm-mugging-becomes-campaign-f.html#comment-162963

Jack, You are asking for the wrong way to be seduced.

Candy is dandy
But liquor is quicker

Ok all gays on this blog need to send their photos to me now... LOL...

off to watch Darth Vader's wife on TV... aka Anne Robinson and The Weakest Link...

Yesterday it was Greenspan and the death of Readganomics, today its Georgia and the death of the "Southern Strategy". Nixon is whirling in his grave -

Poll: Obama Grabs Lead In Deep-Red Georgia

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/poll_obama_grabs_lead_in_deep-.php

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/atm-mugging-becomes-campaign-f.html#comment-162991

Ping,

McCain isn't like Hillary. I can't imagine her giving up everything she believes for the sake of political support.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/atm-mugging-becomes-campaign-f.html#comment-163007

Atticus, I was wondering where Paul Begala was getting his. I'm glad to see he is supporting an American business when yurt shopping.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/atm-mugging-becomes-campaign-f.html#comment-163019

Rez,

Yes I am. I doubt I would ever use it, but I think the choice should be available. We put animals out of their misery as an act of kindness. I just had to do it for my beloved Rory.

Medicine has advanced to the point where someone who would have died naturally only a few years ago can now be kept alive for an extended time even against their will.

It won't help my children. They have standing instructions that if my faculties are gone, they are to administer pillow to face and this law doesn't get them off the hook for that one. Closest I could come was a living will saying if the lights are on but nobody is home to pull all the plugs.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/atm-mugging-becomes-campaign-f.html#comment-163021

Renee,

Is "W" worth theater prices or should I just wait for pay per view?

Same Jamie,

We've voted already and I just went on a gut feeling that the No's were demagoguing it (I-1000)

lol@AF

Jamie,

LLIL living in their own little world deciding what is good in my world, ". We know best, we care more." Thank you, but no thank you. Not awful at all, very much the truth. Liberal programs has turned the grandchildren of slaves into slaves themselves. When will LLIL ever learn handouts were never wanted, a hand up yes, but not these government free handouts has only further enslaved a segment of our society. I know that wasn't the intended achievement, but that was it's conclusion. You would think LLIL would have learned from past mistakes, but no that was not to be. LLIL, because you care so much, are so concern about us, that you made it possible for people who couldn't afford a home to buy one, even though it was a doomed purchased from the very start. Not only does this kill neighborhoods, devalue home prices, the local economy, your loving thoughtful care has destroyed the credit history of many a person. Thanks LLIL for all your caring.

Jamie....
I haven 't seen "W" yet..... it comes out today at our local theater.... I will wait a few days.... I'm sure it will be a mob scene at the movies tonight....

BTW..... we are lucky to have this really great small theater in a nearby town....
the guy who owns it, used to be the guy who brought movies into a very famous theater in Boston called the Orpheus...... he brings in all the great art films that one would have to go to Boston in order to see.... it is located on the upper floor of the town hall..... just below the police station.... it is a very funky place....... and absolutely NO Stallone films will ever see it's screen as long as Dennis owns it.....

Jamie,

"Yes I've been to a black church, black beauty shop, and black church."

Does that mean you have been to a Black church twice?

"you guys are toooooooo much today"

Renee,

I wish so much I could be nice like you. You are great
.
There have been so many times you have said something nice to me, given me words of support. I'm usually so overwhelmed by your kindness that I'm left speechless, and therefore have had a hard time telling you how much it has meant to me. It seems that you have known when I've needed it most and have known just when to say it.

Well, to make a long story shorter, Thanks.

"living in their own little world deciding what is good in my world"

Anselm! One sentence say's it all!
That's beautiful.

Anselm,
I'm totally with you. A handout justs enslaves people. A JOB....now that's something different.....they'll look to us nasty capitalist biz owners for that.....they'll come back hat in hand......just watch

over the ocean above the waves
to grandmother's house i go.....

http://kgmb9.com/main/content/view/10737/40/

latest from hi

I just saw the "mugging" story. Backwards "B" indeed, but did anyone mention that the black eye is at least twelve hours old? Deep discoloration and no swelling? OLD. or are we done with that thread?

Chloe....
thank you.....

I've been posting on Craig's blog for 3 years..... I was attracted to him because of his sense of humor.....

what I've learned from being here is...... have a healthy sense of humor..... don't take any of it too seriously...... and ignore anything or anyone you think is or are crappola..... even if they address you.....

I really like reading the differences in opinions..... snarkiness is ok with me....
incivility is not.....

Bought some more stocks today...I swear it's like walking in Neiman Marcus and finding Walmart Prices....I LOVE THIS MARKET!!!!

Anselm,

Meant to type "barbershop". You can add restaurant, clubs, community centers, and most important homes to the list.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/10/atm-mugging-becomes-campaign-f.html#comment-163032

You are right about the hand up vs. the hand out. There is a black guilt component as well as a white guilt one.

The Civil Rights movement made it possible for the educated and successful black population to flee the ghetto almost faster than white flight fleeing encroachment. The end result was a population of the least educated and most impoverished left behind without mentors to show them the escape routes.

It is good to see a trend of the successful moving back in many cities, but then you get the charges of gentrification and elimination of affordable housing for the poor.

I would like to see the whole welfare system redesigned with the emphasis placed on performance as well as the clearing away of hurdles.

You can't demand that someone go to work if they have no education, no skils, no transportation, no safe place for children etc. Unfortunately this is much more hands on and expensive than just issuing subsistence checks while giving a whole lot of middle class folks a jobs pushing paper.

For our Obama fans ... Oui, on peut!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLvgwHGlpdQ

"what I've learned from being here is...... have a healthy sense of humor..... don't take any of it too seriously...... and ignore anything or anyone you think is or are crappola..... even if they address you....."

Good advice. I'm going to make a note and work on it.

OMG Craig....

that is sooooooooooooo French....... LOL!

break time ova...... see y'all later.....

Great find Craig!

Story is a fraud. Even McCain campaign volunteers are lying. Ha Ha

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D940VEM01&show_article=1

Jaxtrader-Go for the GM stock. Crystler just got rid of a bunch of white-collars(to merge mid-mngt with GM) And as soon as Obama becomes prez he is going to give federal 'insentives' to Amer. car companies, that will help shore them up and they won't go under. It'll pay off big time in about ten years when car companies are totally shifted over to alternative fuel vehicles.

Rosie,
GM is so cheap you can get a sizeable number of shares without risking any real money. Today I bought a barge shipping company, an oil company and one of my regional banks all are great very secure companies at prices I've never even considered possible. Some great companies are getting caught in the stampede......grab them while insanity reigns...

Hmmm, Are you married?

I am...3 teenage sons as well.....my life is work, kid's sports...and once a week out with a great gal....really hard to beat

I tease. But it's always nice to know more about the other people I deal with :)

poignant article re rel. discrimination in wapo
"neither the media nor the people listen"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/23/AR2008102301987.html?hpid=sec-religion

If as Obama says our economy is better built bottom up, then why is Mexico and Cuba not the power house..

Interesting point

Care to defend anyone?

:) same here....I'm not a great blogger yet...too practical and I just don't have the passion for any politician like alot of others do.....hence....my blogs can be boring...:)

Ping,
U know what's coming....they aren't powerhouses because the US elites are holding them backkk...come on....

The bottom dosen't have any money in 3rdWC. Only the rich elite(Webster definition, not Palin definition) You are making the case against yourself.

Rosie,
That's true for Mexico but Cuba is supposed to be socialist....no rich...all equal.....theoretically they should be doing well

They're still communist. And communism did't work too well for the Russians either.

Rosie,
You're right on that....got to give them credit for perseverence though....they've tried their system for 40+ years...can you imagine Americans being told....it'll be hard but 40-50 years from now it will definitely pay off......yikes

rosie... Why are they not at least advancing? Opps in the captial, free market mirror of our Fundamentals those economy do advance for everyone.

Not the socialistic.... lets go back to the USSR... sounds like time for a beatles song

Barack will change - he will have to IF he wins or we are all in trouble.

I hope he gets a good dose of Grandma's values

Lame post, Craig. Lot of important things going on in the world. One random act of violence (assuming that's the case, seems like a hoax) isn't national news. I understand justifications can be made for the dissemination of this "story", but it would be nice if the bar were raised a little.

Ping

in mexico,it does not matter,the politicians rule over business and government with very little oversight, it is a very rich country, with no concern for the little guy, that is why so many of it's people leave to come here------Pres.Solis (ex) owned everything from the railroads,trucking,to shoe shine boxes, stole the country's $ him and his family,,,,Pres Fox did do a lot of repair, but not enough,,,in his case the one time 6 years term was not enough, lots of virgin land,but the gov. steals them from the indians also,,etc etc

'Well it's bound to get a little better, 'cos tourism is starting to make a comeback, that good ol' capitalism. Now the bottom are starting to get jobs in hotels and nightclubs etc. Even janitors bring home a paycheck. To use to by food and clothing, and with saving, tvs radio's, cars and so it goes.

NEW THREAD

Rosie,
I've been there....several times...Guantanamo before the prison.....The water is gorgeous....diving incredible....if it opened up it would be THE place to go for Americans. No doubt in my mind. Mexican resorts would suffer alot....

It DID used to be the place to go from the 1930's until the 50's . It was run by a corrupt government that was basically an off-shot of the American Mafia. I've seen several older movies set in Havana (can't think of a one of them, however. Craig?) When the Cuban revolution tool place, communism still seemed like a pretty neat idea to peoples that had been habitually ripped off by their own government. There are a lot of older Cuban's that don't think it's such a neat idea, anymore.

Hoax. Wow.

Ping

for the tenth time----what we need is a combination of the 2 isms, social, and capital, but since the only 2 political party's that we have are in the pockets of the large corps, whats the diff, you are just arguing differences that don't exit any more----we are living this proof today with the crises that we are in------no one in either party knew this was coming?????? they let it happen thinking that there were no limits,,,now it's going to be the D's way again until they over do it with their social programs that (some)don't work, but will get their side richer,,,,but i would rather have a D in there, they know when to stop---the R's don't,,,the S and L trillions, now this melt down,the D's can't possibly do this much even if they tried,,,,,you have a diff team shirt on than the D's and are protecting the same field,from the 50 yard line that you both start from,,,,,,the D's just won this coin toss that's all----a view from the peanut gallery, and indies that never get to play, cos we can't be bought, thats why you R's and D's sweet talk us until election day,then we go with the one that we think that will do the least harm,,,,but rah rah rah, zim goom bah,,,or somtin like that,thanks

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The End
The end of the beginning and the beginning of the end of the Obama coalition. Who will get the reacharound first?