Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/09/bushs-troop-reversal.html#comment-142201

Sturge,
I liked your Jerry Seinfeld quote.
In reality though, I think birds fly into mirrors for the same reason they fly into windows. They don't realize anything's there (it looks like empty space). I think they're like cats, they don't see reflections, even their own.

Not that any of that matters. But....(You weren't using that as some kind of metaphor, were you?)

no metaphor, just a funnyism

but then, faulkner used to claim there was no symbolism in his work..........

Then I'll have to keep wondering Sturge.

Hey, Sturge. You think you know something no one else does. I even have a T-Shirt that says "I'm not a bitch; I am THE Bitch".

Go volunteer to do something for someone. I do. At least I put my money and efforts where I truly care..that's about helping people in need (and Obama)...something you'll never see from McCain/Palin or IMO any Republican. Oh, you're in need but I'm not trained in that area. You must get a reference for that affliction.
---karolenna

yes, dear.....I'm sure youre really welcome everywhere you go........

and "I" need help?
LOL

maybe someone could comment on the VOTES?

lol

Does this count as a comment?

Tonight's undercard
"All the national attention is on the Pennsylvania presidential primary tonight, but the big congressional battleground will be Mississippi, where Democrats are hoping that they can come one step closer to winning a seat in the heart of the heavily Republican Deep South."

"In the special election in Mississippi’s 1st District, Prentiss County Chancery Clerk Travis Childers (D) will be facing Southaven Mayor Greg Davis (R). The winner will be succeeding Republican Roger Wicker, who was appointed to fill Trent Lott’s Senate seat in January."

Making things more interesting is the fact that they are running on a nonpartisan ballot."
http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/0408/Tonights_undercard.html

maybe someone could comment on the VOTES?

No problem,

Doesn't Louisiana have that weird primary where the top 2 vote gettters run for the general election, never mind what party they belong to?

Jack

Mother Maybell and the girls

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu1Yyp75rwQ

I have one piece of advice for the struggling Obama campaign:

"Fire MSNBC. They’re killing your campaign."

"I still don’t believe that true Hillary Clinton supporters will back the McCain/Palin ticket. Liberal feminists aren’t going to turn into home-school hockey moms because there’s a girl on the GOP team. But something is up."
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/opinion/op_ed/view.bg?articleid=1117752&format=&page=2&listingType=opi#articleFull

Just popping in to read, looks like a peculiar cat fight in here.....and for absolutely no good reason.....weird...

Carry on.....claw each others eyes out!

we love you too UB

Jack

June, Helen , Anita and Mother Maybelle
Singing the wild wood flower

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewnfWoSQz3o

"Fire MSNBC. They’re killing your campaign."

The Democratic party should have done that months ago.

The point isn't that liberal Hillary supporters will support Palin.

Hillary had a broader appeal to moderate voters who may disagree with her on some social issues, but are attracted to her strength and the successof the Clinton years. Most pundits apparently don't understand that these are the Hillary supporters who are vulnerable to supporting McCain.

Chloe, I like the closing to the article you referenced about the MSM

"Katie and Charlie and Wolfie and the gang are still working hard every day to remind typical Americans that Barack is the media’s favorite candidate.

If they keep it up, he’ll be lucky to carry Illinois."

This was on politico, but I never found an article about it.

Playbook
After McCain put Palin on the ticket, there has been a 20-point shift among white women, from Obama to McCain.

julie

I was trying to copy an article this afternoon and my computer froze on me. When I finally got back in action, could no longer find the article.

The story was that Nebraska is one of the two states that allow split of their electoral votes. Obama has an office now in Omaha where he is trying to pick one electoral vote, however republicans register 15,000 more than democrats..

julie

It was just announced that our Jefferson Jackson Dinner on October 4th will feature Al Gore as the keynote speaker. I hope it is the interesting Al Gore or it is going to be a looong night.

Oh Jack,

I didn't even see you in the mix......

haw about that Sarah Palin, she's awesome isn't she?

Zoey

Sounds fun,
Gore doesn't have to worry about what he says any more. Enjoy

Jack

What's this?? KO & Chris Matthews are no longer political commentators.

This is NOT good.

tt

Jamie,

"Fire MSNBC. They're killing your campaign."

The Democratic party should have done that months ago.

Then who would have carried BHO's water if not for the dedicated BHO goobers at MSNBC???

"Schwarzenegger's campaign "playbook" kept press availabilities carefully limited to better control the story line and the message in the media, he said."

Hey it worked for Ahhhnold.

Julie,
How about this?

Omaha's electoral vote draws Obama's attention

http://www.kansascity.com/445/story/788923.html

KO & Chris Matthews are no longer political commentators.

How will BHO survive do without their constant stroking?

Buckwheat Zydeco - Hey Good Lookin'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJcxtOLoXrM

Julie,
Is this the other story you were looking for?

Dead Heat: John McCain, Barack Obama Even in Post-Convention Poll

White Women Shift to McCain as Republican Erodes Obama Lead on Change, Enthusiasm

http://abcnews.go.com/PollingUnit/Politics/story?id=5751238&page=1

"KO & Chris Matthews are no longer political commentators"

They are still political commentators. They are no longer acting as NEWS anchors. Seems they had a problem keeping their opinions out of the news (Duh who wud a thunk it)

KGC

It is working, the press is starting to believe that Palin is scared to face them. By the time she gets up to speed for handling the national press they will have the expectaions so low that she will smile and just like the convention speech she will blow them away.

Jack

Animal Control,
I meant to thank you for that debate video you posted on the previous thread.
.
She's amazing, isn't she?

I posted this much earlier today, wouldn't what anyone to miss the enlighten-one on Bill O'Riley tonight Showtime starting in 3 minutes.

Now for all you BHO goobers don't forget to watch Bill O'Riley tonight for his 3rd interview with BHO. Tonight's discussion BHO's association with the Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers, Rashid and Mona Khalidi, Nadhmi Auchi, Tony Rezko, New Black Panther Party, Louis Farrakhan, and other notables.

As I said earlier today, although O'Riley has not given Team BHO the questions, the mere fact that he has been asking these questions during his show for the past several months, and saying these are the questions he'll be asking, is pretty much the same as giving him the questions ahead of time. So his answers will be quick and to the point, without all the 'ah's, and "uhs" we usually get from BHO when the questions are spontaneous.

buckwheat zydeco looks just like rockin' sydney (dontcha mess wit my toot toot)

Palin is just phyllis schlaffly with a human face.

Now she claims she opposed The Bridge To Nowhere (TBTN) that she supported before she opposed.

Jack

Is that a young Dwight Yoakum on that zydeco video?

Now Big Al Gore has to take on the Old Farmers Almanac.

Old Farmers Almanac: Global cooling may be underway

By David Tirrell-Wysocki, Associated Press Writer
DUBLIN, N.H. — The Old Farmer's Almanac is going further out on a limb than usual this year, not only forecasting a cooler winter, but looking ahead decades to suggest we are in for global cooling, not warming.

It must be a bunch of crazy old coots from New Hampshire, and you know what kind of trouble they cause.

http://www.usatoday.com/weather/news/2008-09-09-farmers-almanac_N.htm

Thanks Zoey,... :)

Julie

Palin breaks the mold ! Ever see another (good looking) republican woman who has the hootspa she has? She can dress a moose, run a country( lol ) she'd like it to be a country...a state, and still have dinner (made by her fired not-fired chef) on the table for her five children and her first dude without even missing a beat on her blackberry.

Takes my breathe away. Who said women can't do it all ?

"Palin is just phyllis schlaffly with a human face"

If the Dems keep thinking that, They are going to get their butts kicked.

Schaffly is a pre 60's attitude, Palin is post 60's,

All the difference in the world. Schaffly might appeal to our mothers wants and desires. Palin appeals to my sisters world view. Where women work, raise the children and worry about the world there children are in. In that world questioning a librarian about what books the librarian is letting their children read is not a negative.

Jack

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/09/its-vote-counting-time-tonight.html#comment-142244

I believe it is Jamie.

Oh and thanks for pointing out a faster way to link to comments

Jack

Jack

"questioning a librarian about what books the librarian is letting their children read is not a negative."

That is why libraries have children's sections and limited cards that can't check out "adult" or controversial books. You don't base public reading material on the sensibilities of a ten year old.

obama dont need no independents, and dont need no sore loser hillacrats......dont need 'em......man got all he needs with out reachin' out to nobody.....he got it all in the bag......rest of you cats stand back and watch his smoke......

I read about the rape kits.....Having a relative in the field...that was just a way to screw the victims insurance companies.....make a claim and collect the cash.

Disgusting....I hope that the Insurance Companies investigate this practice, after all when Insurance is abused all our rates go up.

Jamie

I took a friends little girl to bookstore for her birthday.
I was truly amazed at some of the **** (insert what you want) that i found there . Stuff I would actually call pornographic, perhaps others would call enlightened.
Looked very closely to what she picked before I let her take it home for her mom to see.

julie

Obama compares Palin to a pig- it sure won't be Hillary's fault when he loses. I'm starting to think that he is just dense as he doesn't seem to get it by now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfiqdRhGNqw

Wow UB,

It is just amazing to see such unrestrained bile and ridicule pointed towards a woman in politics because her beliefs differ from yours. So my question is, do you think that she is evil?

Of course women can be very strong and have the ability to do numerous things. Just read some history of the Dust Bowl and the Great Depression.

Just because that last few generations have has electricity and labor saving devices doesn't mean that all women should sit around and watch Oprah or the view.

Chutzpah. You should be very familiar with it.

The rape kit story is at best a gross distortion and in fact is a lie.

Got a link to any credible source on that story?

lol Bow, did I say something negative? about Sarah...I don't think I did.

Champ - I looked for that spelling and didn't find it - thanks for the correction.

Julie

That is called parental guidance. Others should not be expected to conform to your standards. What they choose to read is their business.

Around our home anytime we hear of someone trying to ban a book (other than the absolutely pornographic), it means go and buy it to read unless it had been read before. My son only objected to "Little Red Riding Hood" that somebody wanted disposed of because that version had wine in her basket.

I have no problem with "age appropriate" designations so that parents and guardians can regulate a child's access, but will fight tooth and nail against anyone trying to make their values and prejudices the rule for everyone.

"buckwheat zydeco looks just like rockin' sydney (dontcha mess wit my toot toot)":

Sturge
I think they all came out of the Louisiana swamps.

Buckwheat Zydeco - Ma 'Tit Fille

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdIfiyvl-FA

Sturg,

so you saying "the fix is in".. otherwise I just don't see him smokin nothing but those ciggies of his..

He just keeps on dissin women and he is going to lose more than just us mad old clinton women..

julie

Actually the is back up for it...th rape kit story....
Here one I found quickly

http://www.alternet.org/reproductivejustice/98148/under_palin,_wasilla_charged_rape_victims_for_sexual_assault_exams/

Sea

He didn't call her a pig. He was talking about McCain's policies going by other names and called them the old saying "Lipstick on a pig"

Now Palin herself said she is a hockey mom and the difference between a hockey mom and a pitbull is lipstick. That doesn't make her a dog.

In the cases of more than 2,500 people who receive rape kits each year, hospitals bill the patients' health insurer. Insurance companies, in turn, require emergency room co-payments and deductible costs.

For those without insurance, hospitals send the bills to the N.C. Department of Crime Control and Public Safety, which has a modest fund to help. Reimbursements are capped at $1,000; the average cost of the rape kit exam is $1,600.http://209.85.141.104/search?q=cache:F5SfF4vM2eAJ:www.newsobserver.com/news/story/941202.html+practice+of+charging+victims+for+rape+kits+-Palin+-Wasilla&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us

The charging for rape kits is a fairly common custom and practice. It did not begin with Sarah Palin.

Jamie,
Some people want to dictate how children are raised.....books are the very least of their problems....holy cow......shows how out of touch someone is.

Jolie Blon, by Ginny Mac.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMNYXnXva6s&feature=related

I don't know about that Jamie, I really think he was referencing Palin, I'm sure you are right about the old saying, but there is a double entendre then in that case.

UB,

Of course you did, it is called sarcasm. A comment designed to show your scorn.

So I still want to know if you think she is evil, or if you just don't agree with her political positions.

The rape kit story is at best a gross distortion and in fact is a lie.

Got a link to any credible source on that story?

Posted by: anonymously | September 9, 2008 8:23 PM

They don't need sources. They're like BO. They just make it up as they go.

Anon

You can start here on the rape kit story. It is being widely reported and a state law was passed to make it illegal to bill the victim in the future

http://opedna.com/2008/09/08/wasilla-police-billed-sexual-assault-victims-for-rape-kits/

Some people want to dictate how children are raised.....books are the very least of their problems....holy cow......shows how out of touch someone is.

Posted by: unlikely_burrito Author Profile Page | September 9, 2008 8:33 PM

Palin never censored any books. But of course, you all know that.

Common doesn't make it right.

she wanted to, and in all reality, that is the least of the problems with American children, many do not even know how to read to begin with, and those who do, don't read the "questionable content " in books....geez.....head in the sand....non-issue.

We're getting to the point when nothing can be argued, anything can be refuted, and no one is going to change sides. If someone hasn't made up their mind by now, no amount of snark, slander, or scurrilousness will sway them to your cause.

Now Palin herself said she is a hockey mom and the difference between a hockey mom and a pitbull is lipstick. That doesn't make her a dog.

Posted by: Jamie Author Profile Page | September 9, 2008 8:30 PM

There's a difference in telling a joke and being mean and sarcastic.

Way beyond that point I'd say!

Victims of non sexual assault are billed for all their medical needs as well.

The practice of Wasilla's police dept was to recover the funds from insurers. Should the tax payers absorb the costs which should be paid by insurance companies.

"charging rape victims for evidence gathering.."

By tomorrow, Palin will be the Wasilla rapist and her husband will have a contract to sell rape kits to the city

I don't think I have criticized Palin, some of her actions, yep, some of her goals maybe.....but not the person. I, as everyone else, has the right to speak opinions as we see fit.

I don't know why on this particular blog it get so distorted.

Champ, that is whyit is so humorous....at times.....and odd. The undecideds are not on the internet trying to learn jack, they are doing whatever, and then maybe on election day, they make it over to their poll to vote. ( if they even know where it is)

Mazz - "Estupido Romantico"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH4m03XOeeU

Champ, that is whyit is so humorous....at times.....and odd. The undecideds are not on the internet trying to learn jack, they are doing whatever, and then maybe on election day, they make it over to their poll to vote. ( if they even know where it is)

Posted by: unlikely_burrito Author Profile Page | September 9, 2008 8:47 PM

LOLOLOLOL LOL LOL

And all thing being equal...are you saying that the victim should be charged for the gathering of evidence of a crime committed against her or him?

Tell me why you think the victim should be charged?

Yeah, no kidding, LOL. Who the ___ do you think you're fooling, UB?

Obama seems to be walking on dangerous waters lately. He has taken to calling the McCain campaign liars and dishonest ("they're not being truthful", You can't believe what they say", "They must think the American people are stupid", etc.) and today, I see where one of his campaign's response questions McCain's Honor. This smacks of frustration or desperation or both, either will surely back-fire.

He did this honesty/truthfulness thing in the primaries against Hillary without getting called on it just as He got away with playing the Race Card and then branding a successful 2-term Democratic President as a Racist. The McCain camp already busted him on the latter, but they will eviscerate him on the former. What must He be thinking?

It's no biggie. Palin is a right wing, religious, idealogue. She has every right to her personal religious beliefs and practices. She doesn't have the right to inflict those beliefs on those who do not share them.

If you share her beliefs, vote for the McCain/Palin ticket. If you are like the 70% of the population that disagrees with one or more of those precepts, vote for someone else.

LOL -
glad I could make you laugh who ever you are.....kind of sad , that that comment made your night.

Why do you want to excuse insurance companies from paying?

I don't think I have criticized Palin, some of her actions, yep, some of her goals maybe.....but not the person. I, as everyone else, has the right to speak opinions as we see fit.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/09/its-vote-counting-time-tonight.html#comment-142247

"Palin breaks the mold ! Ever see another (good looking) republican woman who has the hootspa she has? She can dress a moose, run a country( lol ) she'd like it to be a country...a state, and still have dinner (made by her fired not-fired chef) on the table for her five children and her first dude without even missing a beat on her blackberry.

Takes my breathe away. Who said women can't do it all ?

Which goals?

Thank you, Jamie. It's that simple. That's all they have to say, but nooooooo...

"What must He be thinking?"

That he's invincible?

lol

glad I could make you laugh who ever you are.....kind of sad , that that comment made your night.

Posted by: unlikely_burrito Author Profile Page | September 9, 2008 8:54 PM

lollollollollol

Coleman Hawkins and Charlie Parker

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFsL9EwplNo

Night all, no communication just stating talking points.
Time to leave
In the morning

Jack

"Why do you want to excuse insurance companies from paying?"

Because it isn't a medical procedure. It is an evidence gathering procedure by police investigators for future criminal prosecution.

oops.....that lol was for "but noooooooooo"

For the women attending a campaign event in Lancaster County, Pa., Sarah Palin might as well be at the top of the Republican ticket.

"I like the way she's going to bring Washington down to earth," said Erin Gilsbach, 30, who drove from Allentown with her sister, husband and two daughters to hear the Alaska governor and Republican vice presidential nominee speak here Tuesday. "Everyone talks about it, but I get the feeling she's going to do it."

That's exactly what worries Democrats, who see women in Pennsylvania and other states who might have voted for New York Sen. Hillary Clinton turning to Palin - No. 2 on the Republican ticket led by Arizona Sen. John McCain.

"We haven't closed the deal in America, and we certainly haven't closed the deal in Pennsylvania," said Gov. Ed Rendell, a Democrat who stopped into Lancaster to campaign for Sen. Barack Obama Monday. "We have a lot of work to do."

For most women attending the event - many waited two hours in line to get into a field house at Franklin & Marshall College - Palin was a bigger draw than McCain. An estimated 10,000 people found parking wherever they could near the school, hoofing it with umbrellas in muggy weather to the rally.

The rape kit is prepared by medical personnel not the detective in charge of the investigation.

I find it interesting that because I support Barack Obama people think I am against Sarah Palin.

I am voting between McCain and Obama and their parties platforms, Palin is an unknown......we only know what we have been able to scrap up through newspapers, and documents. I guess that's a risk you take when you bring someone into the global spotlight, that no one knows, for the second most important position in the free world.

Medical personnel do the collection because they are the ones who know how. The kit is given into evidence. In a state in the top five of per capita rapes and incest it probably is a good size expense, but billing the victim is probably not the best way to encourage cooperation with the investigations.

http://www.hss.state.ak.us/dph/ipems/injury_prevention/akfvpp/bkgnd.htm

Of course Palin believes that if the woman gets pregnant from rape or incest she has to have the child so why bother convicting the perpetrator at all?

The SANE nurses work and are highly dedicated to helping the victims of rape - they are paid by municipalities.

Anon...do you know any SANE nurses?

If and when Obama loses this election that he should win, an election that was handed to him on a silver platter by GWB and his policies, the DNC, and the media...

Don't blame the American people. Don't blame the Republicans. Blame people like yourselves who poisoned the well with spite and clouded the issues with partisan bias.

From the man that want's to be President.

'You Can Put Lipstick on a Pig, But It's Still a Pig'

Don't remember him saying that before now.

Yep, if you support all this, McCodger's your guy.

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZjFhZWRmYmEzZTlhNDcwY2E2NDNhZTI4NzRkZGVlYTQ=

Jamie

Of course Palin believes that if the woman gets pregnant from rape or incest she has to have the child so why bother convicting the perpetrator at all?

You said this above and I must respectfully ask you where you heard her say this?
She has said she would choose to have the child - she did not and I repeat did not say she would oppose anyone else doing what they thought best. She has also been on record on abortion saying " she believed only in abortion if the mother's life was in danger.. NO where has she applied her beliefs in her positions...
People are putting words in her mouth she has not uttered.

Julie

"The jawbone of an ass is just as dangerous a weapon today as in Sampson's time."
--- Richard Nixon

Julie.. read the republican platform.. passed on Wednesday at the RNC.

Tylenol:

The republican platform is one thing.. What Sarah Palin has said and done are another..

Julie

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/09/its-vote-counting-time-tonight.html#comment-142315

Why he probably meant exactly what John McCain meant when he said it. In fact he probably meant exactly what everyone who has ever used the old adage meant when they said it. Of course if you prefer, "You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear" we could change proverbs.

Why don't we all just agree to disagree.....It's apparent that many here despise the democratic platform, why not just say ....I support the republican platform, and be finished with it.

and for the undecideds -

There is no amount of proving this, that, or the other thing...if you don't know where you stand on issues, then you don't know your self...and no blog on earth is going to solve that issue.

Did anyone see that item at the top left hand side of the page? CBO estimates deficit at 407 BILLION... congrats, Dubya!!

the Botox consumption in the older politicians is out of control....start watching and you will see what I mean....lol

" she believed only in abortion if the mother's life was in danger"

Which is now exactly how the Republican platform reads on the issue.

What Jamie said while scratching with his middle finger.

um.. no, Julie.. vote for Palin if you like, but the platform voted on and passed, at the RNC, will become POLICY because it is now their document.

I love the way Reps say 'so-and-so made the decision to have the baby" -- as if the word "choice" would make 'em all FAINT.

Take a good look at that document. THAT's what ppl will be voting for.

Julie

A party's platform is a statement of what they believe the law SHOULD be. McCain and Palin are running on that platform. That means they support the over throw of Roe v Wade and return of the abortion laws to the states where they will advocate for the position as contained in the platform.

"We know"

That was a great line and it is very accurate to describe what McCain is trying to do.

It plays off of Palin's lipstick comment - but it is a slam of McCain not some kind of slander against Palin. (I mean c'mon - who would be calling that hottie a "pig"....)

"Where is your sense of humor?"

It appears the vile and bile crew have firmly arrived.

Women will never be in power because there is always some percentage of woman who refuse to support another woman's rights.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/09/its-vote-counting-time-tonight.html#comment-142330

Yuk, Are you sure it isn't the Cross and Curse contingent?

I don't care about John McCain's record, his biography or how much he has supported Bush in the past...

The scary thing - is that the policies he tells the American people he "will" implement "if" elected President - are the same failed Republican policies that Bush has championed for the last 8 years.

The fact is people - that the policies are in large part controlled by the party - not the candidate.

Obama, Hillary, Edwards, etc. would have had a very similar agenda - no matter who won.

Just like McCain, Romeny, Guiliani would have a similar agenda. And that agenda seeks to continue the Republican policies that Bush has implemented over the past 8 years.

then you will fit right in - yuk , pull up a seat and continue with your insults.

Burrito:

The only thing that will prevent women from being in power is a lack of desire (or ego) to take it.

(And I am sure - over time - plenty of women will develop the unhealthy addiction to power that we see in many of our career politicians...)

warren - no one wants to look at those facts, they prefer to demean and poke fun at those who support the opposite platform of the last 8 years.

Logic isn't at play for many voters.

Warren - I doubt that, when you have women who revel in tearing down their own......sorry but I have always witnessed men as being better team players.....I hope I am wrong.

Sturge,

I at least know who I am. From what I’ve read from you I think you may believe you are the flaming inferno. Yes?

Tell it to those swing voters, Warren.
Check the polls in a few days, and see what they think of the pig remark.
Maybe they've got your sense of humor.
Or maybe they too lost it about six or seven months ago.

oops too many post the limit sign just illuminated......my bad

ciao

I leave you all with a great tune - not political- everyone enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayzhJKy8H_A

UB.......are you speaking of those women who revelled in tearing down hillary?

We are usually better team players. We are simple creatures - and we enjoy the herd...

But then again - it certainly is fair to say that the GOP are better team players. The Dems loyalty pales in comparison.

However as I have said - that willingness to fall into line is not always a good thing.

We know

Check the election results in November.

I don't obsess over polls...

yes, some of those, and many others that work against women rights by supporting platforms and positions of candidates that diminish and discount womens rights.

gone now bye -poof!

UB It's not about good politics and whats best for the country-it's all about winning. Like Religion, it' about winning over the other side(never happens).The undecided are not trying learn jack,NOT TRUE, I"ll be looking at everything. Please don't ask me if i'm married,if I have children, if I eat corn flakes.--- It's like this----sort of--The teams are with out helmets, they are hard heads.
On the R's side you have Fox, radio, Glen Beck etc.
Ont he D's side you have msm,cnn,npr, etc,
The R's farms that bring up new players, are the religious right Colleges that produced L Ingrems, Rush L,A Coulter, etc (hall of famers). On the left well it's chicago, they have ed Kennedy, Kerry, Dukakis, etc (hall of shamers)Lets see , the Refs.( they wish they had political instant replay to make the right call.
N.Y Times M.Dowd Fox Bret H.,Abc J.S,cbs Bob S.

Do we not need an expansion team< not the Ind, Colts--but some kind of Ind party?Jamie pointedd out the lack reps, in the Congress, as per populaltion, we certainly can use another viable one or two. for potus Some of us don't make up our minds until a little later, you just made mine up, you didn't help your guy out.

Karolenna.....flaming inferno? what the hell does that even mean? lol

Glad you know who you are.......everyone else here knows who you are now as well.....and I figure if I could make any meaning from "flaming inferno" it would be those posts you make which show you most transparently to be on fire with hatred......mostly back in the hillacrat period, but even now peeking thru now and then..........that word "bitch" seems to fly off your keyboard quite regularly.....which is why i asked if you had to be quite so bitchy in advancing your views.....

sturg

Who coined the quotation " Absolute power corrupts:"
or absolute power breeds evil.. Cannot remember the quotation exactly, but I am sure you will know..

julie

SolarCrete - I am so sorry you don't know how to think for yourself.....but at least you are man/woman enough to admit it.

Good luck to you.

Karo
but then you explained it.......anyone who would actually wear a shirt proclaiming to the world that "I am THE bitch " I guess pretty much has to live up to it.......

But that is, I have to tell ya, one REALLY weird shirt to even mention having......... Seriously weird.

Lord Acton, I think.....i'll goooogle-eyes it

John Emerich Edward Dalberg-Acton, 1st Baron Acton, KCVO (10 January 1834 – 19 June 1902), commonly known as simply Lord Acton, was an English historian, the only son of Sir Ferdinand Dalberg-Acton, 7th Baronet and grandson of the Neapolitan admiral, Sir John Acton, 6th Baronet. He was born in Naples, Italy.

Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

This arose as a quotation by John Emerich Edward Dalberg Acton, first Baron Acton (1834–1902). The historian and moralist, who was otherwise known simply as Lord Acton, expressed this opinion in a letter to Bishop Mandell Creighton in 1887:

"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men."

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/288200.html

Thanks Jack. Gave me a reson to learn sum'n.

sturg-EONE!

^(in my best Colonel Klink impression)

" Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power. " - Abraham Lincoln

sorry -could not help myself...a favorite "power " quote

I know NUFFINK..........

I'll bet she wears purple spandex shorts to go with that T-shirt. Quite a sight, I'll bet.

Sturge,

You make comments and mention names but you don't even have a clue about those you mention.

I'm out of here. You don't have a clue. Believe me.

Did I mention that I was willing to wager?

Sturge

It is Lord Acton.

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/288200.html

A great place to bookmark for all English phrases is the root site

http://www.phrases.org.uk

Wait, Karolenna... before you leave, don't forget to snap your fingers back and forth!

I got $20 that says Lord Acton originated that quote.

Thanks Sturg :) & Champ... :)

julie

UB

Like your quotation also.

"You don't have a clue. Believe me."

Only the ones you've given us.

I sometimes confuse you and Jack because you both sign your posts and they both start with 'J'.

My idea is that every specific body strives to become master over all space and to extend its force (--its will to power:) and to thrust back all that resists its extension. But it continually encounters similar efforts on the part of other bodies and ends by coming to an arrangement ("union") with those of them that are sufficiently related to it: thus they then conspire together for power. And the process goes on--

from The Will to Power, s.636, Walter Kaufmann transl.
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[Anything which] is a living and not a dying body... will have to be an incarnate will to power, it will strive to grow, spread, seize, become predominant - not from any morality or immorality but because it is living and because life simply is will to power... 'Exploitation'... belongs to the essence of what lives, as a basic organic function; it is a consequence of the will to power, which is after all the will to life.
--neech

Champ,
I don't know why I sign my name. Guess I am just used to it as I do a lot of genealogy and talk to a lot of strangers..

Yes and we both only live 5 miles apart.. lol
However he is more informed and far more intelligent than I..
enjoy your posts champ

God is dead! : Nietzsche

Nietzsche is dead! : God

Karolenna.....Im certain that you have flounced off in a huff, or maybe a conniption, or something like that there, but I'll agree with you that I dont have much of a clue about so many many things......but when someone comes around all the time using the word "bitch" as if it were powdered sugar to be sprinkled on the cookies I get a clue about that person.....ie You. Which is why I asked could you not advance your opinions without being quite so bitchy.....and I begin to see that you have no intention of doing your chosen candidate the favor of acting like a non-bitchy person when youre out here representing him........que lastima for obama

A uisce beatha to you sturg

come to think of it, believe we could all us one tonight.

julie

After Buddha was dead, his shadow was still shown for centuries in a cave - a tremendous, gruesome shadow. God is dead; but given the way of men, there may still be caves for thousands of years in which his shadow will be shown. -And we- we still have to vanquish his shadow, too.

from Nietzsche's The Gay Science,

vas ist das uisce beatha?

one more holy cow

Sturgeone

You must partake of the "water of life" whiskey pronounced correctly in Gaelic

can you render it phonetically?

Holy Cow

http://www.worth1000.com/entries/64000/64223agIF_w.jpg

Cool.

I always suspected many in the MSM would check out this blog every once and awhile to check the pulse of the electorate (or to co-opt some of our ideas for their own use ; )

I don't think many websites can compete with the passion, intelligence and the traffic that is found in this blog.

(Of course you find stupidity, anger and misinformation here as well - myself included - but you can find that on any blog...)

uisce - ish-geh = water

Beatha - bah-hah = life

Together: ish-geh bah-hah = whiskey

Thanks Jamie for the explanation.

No Sturg, I cannot render it phonetically. I tried my best to get my tongue around the gaelic for a hundred thousand welcomes. The old gaelic gentlemen who was trying to teach me had twinkle in his eye and was trying very very hard not laugh. And I is Irish on me mother's family line. I adore Ireland. And, Bushmills, Jameson, Bailey's. You get the idea

Julie

Warren

Craig did warn us to be on good behavior for the lurkers ... it didn't work. We all just went our merry way being as we always are ... human in all it's nastyness and glory.

Oh show me the way to the next ish-geh bah-hah.....

--Lotte Lenya

And with that I bid you all good night

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbGfY5E9NPk

Jamie

Must of been a good place to find bad facts. they were just doing a story on the internet and false stories and Palin

Jack

Jack

Came back. They were talking about that phony list of Palin quotes. I was the one who went and found the "Bob" blog link to prove they were false and posted it here.

Jamie:

I think that is reflective of what is going on out in "voter world". But there is still plenty of insight here between all the bickering.

Really do have to go now. Have a great evening everyone.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/09/its-vote-counting-time-tonight.html#comment-142345

SolarCrete
I really enjoy your reasoned approach to this election and this blog! I know you realize some here can be nasty and slam other's because they don't think and feel the same as them or even if they try and be reasoned about the Republican side of things! Try and let it roll off you and keep posting, your a brealth of fresh air........

Minn. - Comedian Al Franken grabbed the Democratic nomination Tuesday for U.S. Senate in Minnesota, setting up a showdown with Republican Sen. Norm Coleman.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/state_primaries

Talk about "Reality TV"...

From the man who is unable to defend honor...

McCain is outraged that Obama said his policies is putting lipstick on a pig, yet McCain runs an ad saying that a father of 2 young girls wants to teach sex ed to 4 year olds...

http://www.kansascity.com/445/story/789668.html

Further proof that McCain is a crass and boorish man who lacks honor and decency...

http://www.salon.com/news/1998/06/25newsb.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/15/sources-recall-mccains-jo_n_112955.html

I am crass and lack decency...so I can't complain too much.

But these sideshows are beside the point. Bill Clinton wasn't big in the "honor" or "decency" departments - but he was a damn good President.

I am looking for someone who is smart and is proposing good policies.

'Palin hasn't pushed her anti-abortion beliefs as governor'

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/226/story/52143.html

Jack

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c

Bill Burton, Obama's press secretary, responded in a statement: “It is shameful and downright perverse for the McCain campaign to use a bill that was written to protect young children from sexual predators as a recycled and discredited political attack against a father of two young girls – a position that his friend Mitt Romney also holds. Last week, John McCain told Time magazine he couldn't define what honor was. Now we know why."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13314.html

That statement was good up until that last sentence. Doesn't someone proof these things. There was no need for that last cheap shot. What does it get you except buzz that the campaign went over the line.

Fighting fire with fire often gets you burned.

Obama better get back to the high road.

McCain and Jobs...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh-T2iGkLJY

Why McCain wouldn't support the GI Bill

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK_9sI7hzAc

Jack:

Who cares. Before Palin - it was quite clear that McCain would appoint judges that would tip the delicate balance in terms of the Roe v. Wade decision.

McCain caved to the Right with his VP pick - you don't think he would do the same with judges...

Warren,

They were pointing out that when asked to define honor, McCain, a graduate of Annapolis who's academic career was governed by an Honor Code, could not or would not say what honor was.

In the context of saying that your opponent wanted to give sex education to kindergartners, I would say that proves he doesn't know the meaning of honor.

It's ironic that when McCain takes the high road, people complain he's a pussy. When they fight with some vigor, it's taking the low road.

I've always believed that if you're damned if you do and damned if you don't...you may as well do.

Half the commenters on this blog warren,

Jack

tonyb39:

Thanks, I'll try, to post that is. It's a little slow in const. now. Oh what UB said was not nasty, it's just the way she is.I once had a Nun that told me (a friggin 5th grader that I couldn't be a patrol boy,(hint ub) now that was nasty.Mr Sturgeone more than made it worth while for me tonight with his 10:29 post today, now if i don't learn something here daily it could really get nasty-just kidding.Im just middle of the road guy that enjoys this wonderful way of listening to smart people talk to each other,Warren is right about this sight,so don't f it up for us, we are paying attention.

NEW THREAD

"Listening to Barack Obama,it can seem like the Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin is the main person standing between him and the White House instead of John McCain"
Where's Joe Biden on Sarah Palin?Why is the Dem. Pres.nominee taking on the Rep.VP nominee?Doesn't this make everyone compare the experience of Obama top of the ticket vs Palin 2nd spot on the ticket?

http://www.rr.com/view/content/story.cfm?storyId=5771076&view=HOME&newsgroup=9000&sSect=HOM_1