Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

threadus backus.

How Palin Beat Alaska's Establishment
I"f you've read the press coverage of Sarah Palin, chances are you've heard plenty about her religious views and private family matters. If you want to know what drives Gov. Palin's politics, and has intrigued America, read this."
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122057381593001741.html?mod=todays_columnists

Groundhog day... or Woodchuck day Again !!!

chloe,

I see this blog mysteriously reappeared.

Were you ever able to find out anything on that 1st question I asked you to look into?

Barack Obama 57 State Remix
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMo0WlSvrIY

Less than two minutes from the Harvard educated ah er um you know, genius.

What America needs is another idiot to follow the current idiot!

I know very little about this, but it is an interesting take.

Russia's role in the Iran crisis
"For its part, Russia is happy with the standoff between Iran and the United States. Not only does it destabilize international oil markets - keeping prices higher than they ought to be - but Iran's large natural gas reserves are effectively off-limits for European use, reinforcing the continent's dependency on Moscow. At the same time, as Iran strengthens its economic links with key Asian powers, it makes it more dependent on Russia and China for its critical trade and investments. Russia can only benefit from Iran's gradual reorientation toward the East."
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2008/09/06/russias_role_in_the_iran_crisis/

May I ask what animal you control?

Fry, what was the first question?

Animal Control

Chiding an exhausted candidate for saying 57 instead of 47 smacks of "gotcha stupidity". There was way too much of that during the Primary season on all sides, and it isn't fair to the voters.

This shouldn't get lost in the disappearing threads.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/09/the-race-is-on.html#comment-140537

Animal Control,

That is just to funny. 50, 50, 50, 50 , 57 states.

Well this is just added to the list of all the other astonishing things this Harvard Law grad has mu, mu, mu, mu, muttered.

Flatus out doing chores?
PM to you Jamie....
Agree, what we need to hear are the whats and hows.

I must say the BHO ads in Florida do not tell any of his whats and hows but are attacks on McCain

Jamie you decide what is right for the voters. thanks for letting us know. Your credibility is questionable considering the many time you brown nose the worst offender on this site--spare me the retorts and henceforth I'll do the same with yours.

Well the topic is back but the thread begins again

I love that word and the concept of "Lurk".

Are Evangelicals Really Sold on Palin?

Sure, John McCain's selection of Sarah Palin to be his running mate fully consumed a GOP convention that was supposed to be focused on thumping Barack Obama over the head. And it may have raised questions about McCain's own judgment and seriousness. But, as we have been told ad nauseam since the surprise choice was announced last Friday, Palin has already provided one unquestionable, invaluable assist to the Republican campaign: with one sweep of her perfectly manicured hand, she has supposedly erased McCain's Evangelical problem and united the base that proved so key to George W. Bush's victory in 2004.....

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1839190,00.html?cnn=yes

Regarding the "French" connection (ref Alaska State Sen Hollis French as the connection to the dem party in alaska to do the digging)
Get to the facts - It is proper for the authority to not discuss personnel matters.
is it understood that the trooper in question violated the law?
Is it in the law that the director is at the will of the governor?
Procedure of nothing is possible which creates noise?

Just carrying forward a positive comment that SolarCrete added to the last thread:

"I have been lurking for about a year now and enjoy this site much more than i should,I have always thought that Mr Crawford was an outstanding addition to any news show that he was on. I used to watch tv for all my news information,but have not done so for about 5 months now. I come here to listen to all of you, and go to the sites that you refer, in doing so I feel that I'm better informed.I have added these to NPR, JIM LEHER,C SPAN and a few others, so I don't need tv except for breaking news or noise company. I have really enjoyed coming here and have learned a lot from most of you, I even used a joke that was posted (gave CQ credit) it was a big hit.Please stop all the bs back a forth stuff, 2 of the ones that I enjoy are not here, Patsi and 9/11. I have never voted for a D or an R in all my life so you don't have to figure out which side I'm on, as a matter of fact i enjoy your off political topics (i do like political history) more than your constant back and forth garbage. Patsi, 9/11 just ignore that a hole and come back, Jamie please keep all that info coming, have learned a lot from you-love your site too. will keep to mostly lurking, Thank you all. "

As I said that's from SolarCrete and I didn't want it to be missed.

Fry,

To tell you the truth, I'm not much of a researcher.
But I am a big Mission Impossible fan.

I think your first question was regarding drug use witnesses?

Actually, I figure if there are or aren't any witness, wouldn't tell us much. There wouldn't be much credibility either way. So we'll probably never know.

May I ask what animal you control?

Goats

Good afternoon everyone! Looks like I missed the Threadus Interuptus? It's raining a lot here and unfortunately some of it has found its way into my house. Big puddle of water in the laundry room in the basement and a somehow through a basement window than is under the deck. We readjusted some things on the deck and that seemed to stop the waer being directed to the basement window - but it looks like the laundry room puddle will require further investigation/remedy. It's dry now -- the beach towels and dehumidifer are working.

Yay! We have electricity! I am so thankful for everyday blessings.

Sturge -- good to see you're online. Has the storm already passed you?

I love this new feature where the comments section just randomly revolts and deletes all of the posts.

Maybe even the website, itself, is getting sick of all of us.

the Lurker's Guide to Leafcutter Ants:

http://www.blueboard.com/leafcutters/

undoubtedly

ET,
the term Evangilical has many meanings depending on the bias of the writer, This classification may be the most difficult to define in the election, from polsters to journalist (the few that remain) and the entertainers that occupy most of the MSM and Cable space.
What is an Evangilical? What is a Religous based voter? Where is that line to define right wing?

My conclusion is that these terms are used mostly by the "Left" to try and create a fear and place a label of general proportions on the Republican ticket.

Okay ---- Good line of the day on CNN

"This case has more holes in it than a moose in Wasilla"

Now that I've read the thread, I see that KGC had already provided the link to SolarCrete's thread. I tried just bringing the link over, but couldn't remember how to do that. Sorry, KGC.

Animal

You need to get the players straight. Patsi and I were the witches in residence for a long long time. If that was "brown nosing", I think I'll pass on the honor

Ping Pong

Thanks. This crud of verbal slip ups becoming an electoral crises is just plain rediculous. I'm more interested in what the candidates believe and how they plan to accomplish their goals than I am in whether or not they stumble over words after ten cities and four hours a night sleep.

TECH UPDATE: i guess our server had to clear its throat like Fred Thompson. Sorry about the disappearing comments (could not retrieve them) but all systems working now. As a reminder for future reference, you might want to bookmark our Facebook page where I post updates when we have technical problems:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=17347137146

back to Hanna watch, much rain here

chloe,

Finding someone, anyone who could support his acknowledgment that he used marijuana, and/or cocaine. From all published reports from his HS friends, BHO was not known for his partying, and no one, not even his best friend who has admitted to using drugs in HS. No one. Why is this important you may be asking yourself. My opinions. It was a self calculated risk on his part. BHO assumed if he , a black youth, said no that he never used drugs, his answer would be suspect. A black youth who didn't use or sell drugs, what planet are we on? Of course that view would be of the black youths of today, not the black teenagers on the island of Hawaii in the mid 1960's. So BHO foreseeing the same reply admitted to something I don't believe he ever did, the cocaine part, not the marijuana issue, for the sole purpose of confirming people's beliefs. So since his admission, not 1 person has ever come forward to support any part of his drug use, no one ever used it with him, no one ever saw him used it, and no one ever admitted to selling it to him. BHO only ever so slightly glances over this issue in his book, but the issue, his father abandoning both he and his mother, was the alleged reasons he started using these substances.

Now some will say, who would be stupid to come forward and admit they sold drugs, or use drugs with him. Recall G W Bush and his alleged involvement with cocaine. Not only did you have people coming forward admitting to seeing him use cocaine, there were even some who admitted to selling him drugs. Also something to keep in mind, what would a tabloid like the National Enquirer pay for such a story? "I snorted with the O-man" But not 1 single person ever has substantiated his claims to drug use.

This is HELL IN PARADISE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0EjS7tLmkg

Ah BN

That was a single throw back to an email he had sent me. He knew exactly what it meant. You didn't.

jamie,

"Chiding an exhausted candidate for saying 57 instead of 47 smacks of "gotcha stupidity".

This is only because BHO is now your guy, since Team BHO, with the help of the MSM, and DNC threw HRC under the bus on several occasions to make sure the body was no longer a threat. And BHO's claim about how granting illegals a drivers license will somehow protect us if we are ever read ended. Where did that lack of knowledge come from, what excuse are you going to grant him on that issue?

SolarCrete

Thank you for the kind words. Drop out of lurk anytime, would love to chat.

Enjoying the sun on the Isle of Crete sounds like a great place to be.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/09/gop-in-st-paul-looking-back.html#comment-140572

Fry, You're right. (I still can't understand why those books were written when they were, in the first place)

It's just hard to believe that there's anyone out there that knows anything, or Gordo or the National Enquirer would have it by now. (our 2 best sources, so far - sad but true).

Going to lunch.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/09/gop-in-st-paul-looking-back.html#comment-140575

If Obama is her candidate now, so what? And what's so wrong with giving illegal immigrants a fricken driver's license?

Beware of the individual who feels they have to fabricate small insignificant incidences just so they'll be accepted.

57 States
=======
"The Organisation of the Islamic Conference (OIC) is an international organization with a permanent delegation to the United Nations. It groups 57 member states, from the Middle East, Africa, Central Asia, Caucasus, Balkan, Southeast Asia, South Asia and South America."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organisation_of_the_Islamic_Conference

Pay no attention, it's just GN trying to start trouble.

er.I mean BN

FD

As it happens I disagree with giving illegal aliens driver's license. It is a difficult problem and I didn't like it when HRC was put through the wringer over trying to align her position with her State and personal attitudes.

As long as the Mexican government is a criminal enterprise, the US corporations looking for slave labor, the east and west border entries unprotected. It is a god awful mess. The US creates the market for cheap labor and drugs and the supply flows across the borders virtually unchecked.

Unfortunately, the ones who get hurt tend to be people who simply want a job to support themselves and their families while the corporations and drug dealers make out like bandits.

ET,

On what planet do you live? Do you even have a valid driver's license? Do you own a car, or even drive one? It isn't the "f"ing drivers license that protects anyone if your in an accident, it is something called CAR INSURANCE. What insurance company is going to issue an illegal who has no driving history a insurance policy, and what do you think those premiums would be even if they did? Yes I know, we the legal driver should pick-up their insurance premiums that will be collected through TAXES. No wonder you live outside the US. You don't have a clue of what is going on here in the US. BHO went to Harvard Law. Sad to think a Harvard Law grad doesn't know what protects you when you are involved in an accident. It is not a drivers license.

Jamie could it not be argued that if you give them driver's licenses you have at least some sort of tracking system rather than no idea who they are or where they are?

FryDaddy I lived in the USA my whole life until 1998, so you don't need to lecture me on not knowing what goes on in the US...

As for what planet I live on, I can report back to you that I am not in orbit around

URANUS!

Earlier today: Biden/Sinclair -- Here are some details:
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DELAWARE CHARGES DISMISSED

http://larrysinclair-0926.blogspot.com/2008/08/ladies-and-gentlemen-i-will-not-be.html
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DID DELAWARE AG's OFFICE KNOWINGLY SECURE FALSE INDICTMENT?

http://larrysinclair-0926.blogspot.com/2008/09/did-delaware-ags-office-knowingly.html

Too much information

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/09/gop-in-st-paul-looking-back.html#comment-140584

Ah now we know. Barack said 57 states because he is part of the vast right wing Islamic Conference. Thanks for clearing that up... Wow, even a Manchurian candidate is sounding safer than Mr. Obama... Who knew?

Jamie,

"Unfortunately, the ones who get hurt tend to be people who simply want a job to support themselves and their families while the corporations and drug dealers make out like bandits"

Here is a simple idea. Take a number and go to the back of the line. You have people from all over the world that come here legally, who work here legally, who drive legally, and the cars they drive meet the minimum insurance coverage of the state the car is registered in. Just because you slip into the US illegally is no excuse for them to further violate additional laws, and then be rewarded.

ET,

Obviously you are clueless as to what protects you in an accident. Drivers license LMFAO. You are just to funny. Netherlands, correct?

ET

In order to get a DL, an illegal alien is almost always using forged information that they have bought on the black market.

FD

Anyone who enters legally must be paid a living wage and given basic employment rights. Then what do you do with someone who loses a job? Send them back, given them time to find another, what benefits do they keep (unemployment, disability?), what do they sacrifice?

It just isn't a black and white situation and needs a comprehensive solution. No easy answers.

People get dizzy on a high horse

Jamie,

Living wage. Really? You need to get away from your computer some day and go to a construction site. Take a good look around and report back to me what you see? And how many of those people you see there do you think are legal US citizen, or are here legally? 50%, 75%? There is no way of telling. Any illegal that come in this country can purchase a full set of fraudulent documentation. Their is a whole underground industry based on manufacturing fraudulent documents.

"Democrats post big gains in voter registration"

http://www.rr.com/view/content/story.cfm?storyId=5748037&view=HOME&newsgroup=9000&sSect=HOM_1

McCain Reality vs Obama Promises..

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2008/09/05/do0508.xml

Here's Joan Walsh from Salon,I posted this last night and it was lost.."Mean Old Party"

http://www.salon.com/opinion/walsh/?last_story=/opinion/walsh/election_2008/2008/04/25/olbermann_apologizes/

Jamie,

Whatever happen to your firm position on a country's sovereign rights? Wasn't that long ago when you were waving that banner, but I forgot that was when HRC was your pick. Do you ever stay consistent? Nooooooooooo you don't.

It's a damn good thing I had my DL in my wallet when I was ejected in my car accident. That extra sliver of plastic padding saved my ass.

FD

I'm well aware of what is going on in the skilled labor industries such as construction.

I was thinking more along the line of migrant workers who live in subsistance levels or even almost every single hotel in the nation.

As stated, it is a complicated problem. If the demand weren't there, the illegal workers wouldn't be there. In this case, I think that is the end that needs to be controlled if only because businesses want to stay in business. Ones that follow the law are at a disadvantage against those who don't. Make the ones who don't pay a high enough fine to put their existence in jeopardy and the use of illegals would dry up.

If you use SS numbers as a tracking device, you open up everyone to identity theft. Perhaps demanding a passport for everyone or some sort of new document that can't be forged is the way to go. Unfortunately, Republicans go ballistic when that idea is put forward.

FD

I am still for enforcing Sovereign Rights. It is how you go about making it effective that is the problem. Just yowling about something without coming up with workable solutions is just making noise to sound good not achieve results.

This is dedicated to all the 25 and under BHO goobers, and for those who are just the Pollyanna types. Lyrics from a 1950ish song:

Fools fall in love just like schoolgirls
Blinded by rose colored dreams
They build their castles on wishes
With only rainbows for beams
They're making plans for the future
When they should be back in school

Julie, good link--incredible we have to read overseas journals to get a little unbiased reporting.

jamie,

"If you use SS numbers as a tracking device, you open up everyone to identity theft. Perhaps demanding a passport for everyone or some sort of new document that can't be forged is the way to go."

Your SSN is out there for anyone to obtain, as is your unlisted unpublished phone number, where you have lived for the last 20 years, your education, your children etc etc etc. and just about everything and anything you ever submitted on the internet.

Now the reason a lot of this stuff is out is so the dead beat parents, cheats, con artist, rip-off artist, skips, etc can be found. They are yset another reason why taxes are so high. You are paying for father's who are nothing more than sperm donors, then split leaving a mother and child to fend for themselves. Or the person who takes out a loan knowing up front they have no intention of paying back the load, or credit card, or returning the car they defaulted on. I guess I am a little different than you, I don't think I should have to pay for their bad behavior. Apparently you don't mind.

Under the heading of "Don't believe everything you read"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Telegraph

The Daily Telegraph has been politically conservative in modern times. The personal links between the paper's editors and the leadership of the Conservative Party, also known as Tories, along with the paper's influence over Conservative activists, has resulted in the paper commonly being referred to, especially in Private Eye, as the Torygraph.

rainbow stew, merle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B13O6NWtLmo

Wikipedia--now there's an authoritative source--NOT

FD

"You are paying for father's who are nothing more than sperm donors, then split leaving a mother and child to fend for themselves. "

Unfortunately the ones they persecute are the ones who try to do the right thing with exhorbitant interest charges. The majority of the money in those cases is spent keeping middle class social workers and attorneys employed rather than actually benefitting the children.

Just like the IRS, it is easier to go after the small business or moderately successful that it is to go after the big corporations with their own stable of lawyers. The next time Harbor Woman shows up ask her about this one.

With the spike in unemployment that was just reported, it is scary to not that the one sector that gained employees was government.

Turn on CNN

Cindy McCain is dressed as grandma Moses in Chartreuse dress and Coral sweater. With her money, you would think she would have a personal shopper to keep her from mistakes like that.

Jamie,

If you use SS numbers as a tracking device, you open up everyone to identity theft.

For less than $1.00 any employer can easily verify if the SSN they are present is valid. The number itself tells you where and when it was issued, and there is a numerical way of determining if the number itself is even good. Then ask a few simple questions of the applicant, like where have you lived in the last 5 years, in what state did they obtain the SSN. It is so stupidifying why it is not a common practice of all employers. Just make verification of the application form a condition of employment. You could do it on site in less than 5 minutes, and you would reduce illegal hiring by better than 50%.

AC

The factual part is the litany of owners and political positions with the citations. Do you want be to dig up the actual corporate sales from those links? The Telegraph is a good paper. They do an excellent job of reporting the news, much better than most US papers. When it come to their opinion pieces, you need to know their political position and for The Telegraph that is Tory while the Independent tends to be Liberal Democrat.

For more strictly held balance, try the London Times is still pretty good though with the buyout my Murdoch, that is no longer as dependable.

If you don't know a newspaper's slant (or a TV stations for that matter), you can't know how believable their coverage is going to be.

FD

"Just make verification of the application form a condition of employment."

You are behind the times. The verification system is already going into effect. Supposedly, the companies that agreed to use it would not be subject to ICE raids. Unfortunately, someone forgot to tell ICE and a raid just happened landed all over the news. Until the right hand figures out what the left hand is doing this isn't workable and is really open to fraud and abuse.

It is working little better than the terrorist do not fly lists which are a total shambles unless you believe there are over a million terrorists wandering the countryside.

Jamie,

"Unfortunately the ones they persecute are the ones who try to do the right thing with exorbitant interest charges."

A friend of mine several years ago located a deadbeat father, on behalf of the mother, who owed $70,000 in back child support. The authorities really didn't want to be bothered in going through all the paper work to have him arrested and extradited back to the respective state. Eventually they did after they were continually hounded, but it was like pulling teeth to get the state to do the right thing for the mother and child.

Speaking of deadbeats I just thought of this, my sister has her deadbeat husband who lives up your way. Unfortunately the children are all grown now with families of their own, but he owed my sister $36,000 in back child support, he also owed his other wives the same thing. Sperm donors.

Finally, lunch has arrived.

FD

The whole system for dependent children is a god awful mess. They spin their wheels trying to colect from dead beats where the children are on welfare, but neglect cases where the mother is actually supporting the children without assistance. (personal experience with that little glitch).

seafood gumbo, wit okra and ro-tells......yes, lunch is good on the beach......

The American entreprenurial spirit

http://www.deadbeatdadfinders.com/

http://www.supportcollectors.com/success_stories.php

Gallup Daily: Obama’s Edge Shrinks to 2 Points
Election Preferences Nearly Tied Again, 47%-45%
PRINCETON, NJ -- Barack Obama's advantage over John McCain has been shrinking since the start of the Republican National Convention, and is now down to just two percentage points -- 47% to 45% -- too close to call. This is according to Gallup Poll Daily tracking from Wednesday through Friday, Sept. 3-5.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/110047/Gallup-Daily-Obamas-Lead-Shrinks-Points.aspx

Sturgeone

Meant to thank you for the leaf cutter site. Maybe we should all take turns at just throwing in some little esoteric piece of driftwood found on the great beach of the internet.

"2 of the ones that I enjoy are not here, Patsi and 9/11"
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/09/the-race-is-on.html#comment-140537

Katherine, Thanks for linking that SolarCrete post.
I agree with him about Patsi, Jamie and 9/11

Obama would consider off-shore drilling a

By MICHAEL C. BENDER

Palm Beach Post Staff Writer

Friday, August 01, 2008

ST. PETERSBURG — U.S. Sen. Barack Obama said today he would be willing to open Florida's coast for more oil drilling

There's Something Missing in St. Paul
"And Palin did mention oil and gas drilling, and she effectively connected her Alaskan natural-gas pipeline to Tsar Putin's global aim of energy blackmail. She proved that she knows a bit more about high-table geopolitics than her critics think and that Alaskans know a lot about Russian territorial ambitions, with Russia right across the pond. "
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/political_commentary/commentary_by_lawrence_kudlow/there_s_something_missing_in_st_paul

What They Told Us: Reviewing Last Week’s Key Polls
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/weekly_updates/what_they_told_us_reviewing_last_week_s_key_polls

"How Palin Beat Alaska's Establishment" chloe@12:16 p.m.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122057381593001741.html?mod=todays_columnists

Thanks for posting that URL, Chloe.

One of the things that's troubled me about Mr Obama are his fiscal dealings as he came into political prominence. And, of course Mrs Obama's good fortune in becoming a VP at her hospital, also as he came into prominence.

At some point most politicians start believing all the good things that are said about them, and start believing that they truly are special and deserve the rewards and special opportunities they are afforded.

I'm not going to restate the Journal article Chloe linked to. But, I will say I think there's a lot of there there.

Alicia, sorry you're bailing your basement. Hope it's an easy fix. But, understand, I did tell you to requisition a couple Marines; they would have had the whole dwelling on stilts by now.

Flatus, I loved that 'cartoon' of Palin with the boxing gloves they used on that article. It is so nice to see a strong woman portrayed like that. This election is getting downright fun again.

I need a break from politics - too much talk radio and then Fox and CNN when I got home. The tension really seems to be getting high - more so among the electorate than the candidates.

I am going to go get some sun...

So What Is Fair Game With Sarah Palin? Look at the Rules Hillary Clinton Had to Play By.

By Anne E. Kornblut
Sunday, September 7, 2008; Page B01

Watching Gov. Sarah Palin explode onto the national scene over the last week got me thinking back to a cold evening earlier this year, just before the New Hampshire primary. I was half-listening to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton speak at an auditorium when a strange noise interrupted the event: two young men shouting, in muffled voices, "Iron my shirt!"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/05/AR2008090502656.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

Sturg, I'll never feel safe again.

When we were in Panama I saw two lines of leaf cutters, one coming and one going. Their prey was a magnificent frangipani across the street from where I saw the convoy of leaves vanishing. They were amazing!

I came by a few days later and saw that every leaf on the tree, a tree at least 70-feet tall, had been removed.

Friday, August 29, 2008
Barack Obama Supports Drilling In The Bakken Formation?
By Gwen on August 29, 2008 at 01:23 pm
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CROSS-POSTED FROM DAKOTA LIFESTYLE: BEYOND THE WEATHER. LINKS ARE AVAILABLE AT THE ORIGINAL POST.

I have to admit, this truly surprised me.

I’m still leary of Barack Obama, but I’m glad he’s seeing the Bakken oil formation as an important resource for helping fill national energy needs. On the energy front, North Dakota does have a lot to offer–great wind energy potential, vast coal resources, and a great interest in biofuels (including ethanol).

As long as it’s economically feasible, tapping into the Bakken formation while we research and develop things like affordable mass cellulosic ethanol or wind energy transmission makes a lot of sense.

Obama is very right about one thing: the oil boom in North Dakota right now is very important for our local economy. And it’s always nice when North Dakota gets recognized.

Pander drilling?

Ann Kornbutt
"Still, the fact that a spokesman for Sen. Majority Leader Harry Reid used the word "shrill" to describe Palin's speech on Wednesday night only made Clinton's camp more convinced that the hockey mom from Wasilla really could win some women over. And that is why Palin's emergence has given the increasingly tight 2008 campaign a kind of symmetry that the "Iron My Shirt" boys, whoever they were, could never have imagined. "

Jamie, I may well be wrong, but I think that the only UK major paper that is a stand-alone independent is the Guardian.

anonymously, Do you have a link for that?
I'd like to read it.

Posted by: EuroTom Author Profile Page | September 6, 2008 3:53 PM

Sorry should have said from link in EuroTom's post
It's an interesting column because it is so confused. You can see the journey the author is taking and probably a lot of others too.

Link
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/05/AR2008090502656.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

Comparing Palin to Clinton is insulting implying women can only be compared to other women. Palin is a young republican, that's her peer group.

Leiningen versus the Ants, by Carl Stephenson, made into a movie with Charlton Heston, originally appeared as a short story in Esquire, 1938.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leiningen_Versus_the_Ants

saw this movie when i was a kid, scared the bejesus outa me.......

"The Naked Jungle" was the movie.......

Flatus

You could well be right. The newspapers in Great Britain are dealing with the same financial problems that they are elsewhere. In a world where fewer and fewer people read a daily paper, it is hard to keep going. One site I love simply because you can get such an across the board range of opinions is:

British Media On Line http://www.wrx.zen.co.uk/britnews.htm

By Susan Page, USA TODAY
All voters are not created equal.

Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama leads Republican John McCain in the latest USA TODAY/Gallup Poll by only single digits among registered voters,
However, an analysis of how Americans view the election — whether they think it matters and how strongly they're committed to a candidate — shows a more lopsided contest. (In favor of Obama)

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-07-09-voter-analysis_N.htm

July 10, 2008.

Rick Davis read this article and went straight for Palin.

Sturg I saw the same movie--MARIBUNTA!!

Not quite as intellectual as "The Naked Jungle", but who has seen

THEM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Them!

I was wrong about Sarah Palin and caused the media backlash.

Sally Quinn

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FEANF9dR_8

"Pander drilling?"

Only if the pander gives consent.

grin , duck and run

Jack

McCain speech viewership eclipses Obama's: Nielsen

5 hours ago

WASHINGTON (AFP) — Republican White House nominee John McCain earned a record 38.9 million television viewers during his convention speech, edging his rival Barack Obama's record from the previous week, the Nielsen group reported Friday.

"Senator McCain amassed an audience of 38.9 million viewers for his speech on two fewer channels than were carrying Senator Obama's speech August 28 to 38.38 million viewers," Nielsen Media Research said in a statement.

McCain's Thursday night speech at his party's convention in St. Paul, Minnesota also outscored that of his fiery vice presidential pick Sarah Palin the previous evening, when 37.2 million tuned in.

I just received the early voting/absentee ballot information from the state. I plan on voting early. Voting starts October 7th.

Anyone have any links for the percentage of early voters? Typical age, etc.?

Portrait of Palin

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/washington/AP-Portrait-of-Palin.html

Im my search, I came across this...

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/diebold_accidentally_leaks

Palin Viewership

The McCain campaign must be giddy with this news, just out from Nielsen: Sarah Palin's speech generated 37.2 million viewers, just a 1.1 million viewers fewer than watch Barak Obama's Invesco Field acceptance speech. As Nielsen notes, only six networks carried Palin's speech compared with ten for Obama's.

http://www.illinipundit.com/2008/09/04/palin-viewership

Im my search, I came across this...

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/diebold_accidentally_leaks

Posted by: Blonde wino Author Profile Page | September 6, 2008 5:22 PM

Ha! not far from the truth.

This is one of those scholarly things with scads of citations and esoteric language

http://www.allacademic.com/meta/p_mla_apa_research_citation/1/4/3/0/5/p143054_index.html

What it comes down to is that early voters tend to be those already mobilized (the true believers on either side) and the elderly who like the option of a mail in.

Those wavering between choices coupled with those who like the "civic duty" feeling of going to the polls are the ones least likely to early vote.

The number of early voters keeps growing, particularly among younger voters, but has not yet become the majority of the voting public except in total vote by mail states such as Oregon.

http://www.allacademic.com/meta/p_mla_apa_research_citation/1/4/3/0/5/p143054_index.html

Chris Matthew's new theme song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqAuuIDU2sw

Early voting in Ohio 9/30

I can't believe BB King is 83. Only saw him play live once back on New Year's Eve 1963. It was a great evening for me and the then husband. At the end of this month my daughter turns 44 :-)

ROBERT NOVAK discusses his brain tumor:

http://www.suntimes.com/news/novak/1148594,CST-EDT-novak07.article

Even the more cautious CQ map leaves Obama only 15 electoral votes to find.

http://innovation.cq.com/prezMap08/

JAMIE: I saw BB once also, in December, 1972, at the Academy of Music in NYC.
His career had not yet entered his magical later phase; this night he was relegated to opening for J Geils Band...imagine that! The rowdy young crowd kept shouting "J GEILS !!".
It really was disgusting. BB just drowned them out with Lucille
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
My computer crashed as our power went out a few days ago.
With the aid of tech support we're back online, strangest thing was how difficult it was to download the service pack I needed, but we got it now. .Only advice I have is DO NOT ever misplace your re-install cd s!

"Obama rebukes Palin on earmarks"

LOL
He doesn't want to go there,
Floundering!!!!

Jack

Obama's to lose.

No wonder they took Biden off the trail. The most gaffe prone of the four. Getting him ready for his MTP appearance.

Acronis TIH

I have to agree with what Champ said a little while back to ET, the extreme right of the R's, and the extreme left of the D's have us fighting so much that you are not aware of the harm that they both do.They both come off trying to convince the other that they are the only game in town,while the middle of the road people of both parties get put in their never ending blender. I think that-Jason,PM,Champ, and others have, or started to (joined the IND's) figure this out, and looking at all parites. Once that UB switched from HC to BO there has been a big diff, in that she has almost forgetten that she has friends on the other side, Lardass and Jamie just a little, that you can hardly notice. but its there.Patsi-9/11 - KGC ( another of my favs) came back and figured out how to enjoy this blog again, she ignores the knotheads. I'm like Chloe, a sponge, except that i don't have any formal education to speak of, so keep talking about all the good stuff and keep all the bs on the other blogs, I don't think I'm alone in that I have found a new way to listen to smart people( all of you) talk to each other, lots of people are watching you.

Biden still has no other public events on his schedule, though the VP traveling press corps is no longer taking that for granted. Tropical Storm Hanna's forecast track takes it right through the First State, but both campaign and Senate office spokesmen have not indicated whether he'll address the storm.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/09/06/1358150.aspx

Guess you aren't the first to know. Didn't get the text message eh?

TOO FUNNY. Rush Limbaugh starting a rumor SoetorObama will dump Joe Biden as VP

"We bet this is retaliation for the media’s pathetic rumor mongering the last few days that McCain would dump Palin because of media and SoetorObama attacks on her 17 year old daughter.

So, right back at them, Rush Limbaugh started talking today about SoetorObama the Nervous dumping Joe Biden and replacing him with Hillary Clinton.

The excuse would be that Biden had another brain aneurysm or, possibly, that he has a drinking problem."

http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/09/04/too-funny-rush-limbaugh-starting-a-rumor-soetorobama-will-dump-joe-biden-as-vp/

SolarCrete

Interesting rundown, and some good points.

Or as Sturge would say, "Yeah, but"

Which reminds me Ihaven't seen Cory in here in several days. I thought he would have been spreading the news of the detroit mayor resigning.

Jack

Jamie...BB and Lucille...always together.

I don't see many bumper stickers this year for either candidate....W and Viva Bush are still on quite a few bumpers here.

Before the storm he has nothing on his schedule he is in Delaware for the weekend getting ready for his MTP appearance.
Biden had no scheduled plans today, so members of his national press corps were surprised to hear he was escorted along with Secret Service to teach a class at 9:30 in the morning.
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/06/politics/fromtheroad/entry4422467.shtml

You are the fool. The Obama Court Jester and lie spreader
http://www.newerspreader.com/details.htm

Solarcrete...

I enjoyed your analysis from the "cheap seats". You should post more often.

Where's the Biden stuff?
A Campaign Spot reader noted that though Obama selected his running mate almost a week earlier, he still doesn't have any Obama-Biden merchandise for sale but McCain has plenty of McCain-Palin merchandise already. What's up with that? What about the people clamoring for Biden merchandise? Oh yeah, right.
http://blog.beliefnet.com/reformedchicksblabbing/2008/09/wheres-the-biden-stuff.html

annon2

Union printers can't supply product as fast. Work rules and such.

principals?

You must have gone to Harvard beet school.

One 'belated' t-shirt.
(did you check the date?)

McCain/Palin have shirts, hats, buttons, bumperstickers, etc.

http://www.mccainshop.com/cgi-bin/mccainshop/scan/st=db/co=yes/sf=prod_group/se=APPAREL/op=eq/va=banner_text=APPAREL.html

South side Chicago schools boycott for basic supplies— what has Obama done
For his constituents—apparently they got the Big O

Boycott Underscores Disparities in Schools
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/04/AR2008090403398.html?nav=rss_nation

This was reported I believe I saw it on Fox.. 12,000 miniature US FLags that were used at the Obama speech in Denver were retrieved from the trash by a vendor and given to McCain campaign and were then given out to Veterans at a McCain rally. Ha, way to recycle.
julie

Whskyjack

Im also in const.-self employed.Really appreciate your all around knowledge, Iv'e had up to 28 workers with me that helped me build new homes from footings to roof, only a few now. Oh "yea but" as Sturg would say, he's Mr Sturg to me.

The "yeah but" is that you need to understand what the others are saying-your side is just as good or just as bad, you don't have to take it or leave it all.

A lot of R's adore Pres. Reagen, they forget that he started the unemployment taxes that are 100% taxed now, who doe's this hurt-only middle class D's
A lot of D's just tax the hell out of all Companies, and give $ away just by signing for it-they should work for it.Who pays for all this-we all do, d's and r's and the ones in the middle. We need smart people like you to figure it out, by working together.Hell I don't know thats how this Ind looks at it, if we stop saying "yeah but" but then what is the next thing to do,stop all the bs get the best ideas forward,isn' that what you all like about Mr Craford and others like him.

McCain Makes a Run at Michigan,
A Wavering Democratic Stronghold
http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB122065665837205573.html?mod=special_page_campaign2008_topbox

sorry about the spelling of your name Mr Crawford-this is all a little new to me. Will give you my thoughts with bad grammar spelling and all, thank you.

BB's had about 14 or 15 different "Lucille's" to date......

SolarCrete is my new hero.

Getting geared up down here in Florida for the first good college football game of the year.

University of Florida vs. Miami

Starts in 30 minutes.

This will be a great year nationwide. Lots of great contenders and awesome and unusual matchups, like USC vs. Ohio State in a couple weeks.

Two great teams which have rarely, if ever, met during the regular season.

Plus, my beloved Missouri Tigers will be in the hunt for a national championship.

I couldn't be happier!

"Boy Scouts and Veterans of Foreign Wars will distribute flags at McCain event in Colorado today: flags rescued from the garbage at SoetorObama’s nomination ceremony last week"

http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/09/06/zoinks-boy-scouts-and-veterans-will-bring-12000-american-flags-in-garbage-bags-that-democrats-threw-away-in-denver-onto-the-stage-for-a-mccain-rally-in-colorado-today-republicans-will-recycle-the/

Both candidates on the Feddie & Fannie Mortgages

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080906/ap_on_el_pr/candidates_mortgage_giants

Thanks Gordo for the link on the story I saw on television..

julie

Obama, McCain to appear at Ground Zero on 9/11

http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN0633930820080906?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews

The two men will join on Thursday in an anniversary commemoration at Ground Zero, the site where the World Trade towers once stood.

.....That will be an interesting traffic and security challenge

I just learned why there are no Obama/Biden bumper stickers.

There was a printing error and the all have to be redone. The ones that they have to reprint said Obama/Media 08!

Hey gang...when the "right wing" really does have its final revolution and REALLY does take over this country for good, I'd say a good 80 percent of the regular folks on this blog are going to all be loaded onto the same flatbeds.

So we better start getting along now, and getting used to each others' body odors.

http://change-obama08.blogspot.com/2008/09/john-mccain-unfit-for-presidency.html

interesting video clip on this blog

Johnny Cash and Joni Mitchell: The Long Black Veil.

Amazing, historic video. And with that, I will retire to college football.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pALSKcWcVEk

Obama Disrespects The National Anthem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1Hai7ZcF6U&feature=related

Oh for crying out loud Gordo... Talk about dredging up ancient history.

We have a national anthem that almost no one can sing and that everyone applauds for afterwards. Standing respectfully is just fine thank you.

All this "prove you're a good american" by all the little trimmings is just plain juvenile. It's a song and not a particularly good one at that, but we have been stuck with it since 1916, so I guess it's okay.

1916 by the President. It wasn't until 1931 that it was recognized by the Congress.

I would like to start a movement for "America the Beautiful" ... much easier to sing and prettier lyrics.

Carole King
Joni Mitchell
Carly Simon

Three of the most amazing singer-songwriters we've ever seen.

Who will write their obits? People who never understood how great they really were, that's who.

Okay. Now. Really. College football. It's kickoff time.

Lardo,

You've given new life to the term BO as it was originally used to promote personal hygiene not a candidate.

Back in the day no one would say "I'm for BO"

Lardo,
the Obits have been written for years. All they will change is the lead and the last paragraph.

Hell just last week Steve Job obit was issued, the only problem was he hadn't died yet.

And I would add Hank Williams (dead) and Merle Haggard to the list of singer song writers.

Carly Simon??

oh well....

In matters of taste there can be no argument.
--FWNietzsche

Sturge..

You're so vain. You always think this post is about you.

Just joking, of course. But you have to admit...

Sturgeone/Liberal

It could be either one of you. You both have and "E" in your name. :-)

Dont forget Dolly Parton...........and if it includes men singer/songwriters, shouldnt leave out Roger Miller and Bob Dylan............or John Prine.........

"Hey gang...when the "right wing" really does have its final revolution and REALLY does take over this country for good, I'd say a good 80 percent of the regular folks on this blog are going to all be loaded onto the same flatbeds."

LOL Lard.
Things sure are a lot more fun when you're around.

I didn't really mean to start an argument. And all those folks you mention are tops on my list, too.

Just go back upthread and look at at the vid of Johnny Cash singing with Joni Mitchell. It's pretty cool.

But I'll stand my ground at least on Carole King: No one talks about her enough anymore.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2ypVSYoEKA

" Our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God " - Sarah Palin

Obama needs to be more direct and specific in his indictments of Bush.

If he's Mr. Nice Guy to Bush & Cheney, he's gonna loose, and we're gonna have 4 more years of Bush.

I hope he & his campaign realize this & follow through with it.

The Repubs did that to Bill Clinton for YEARS over nothing.

tt

Whenever I want to just let my heart soar (and ache) I watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUwTdqPkluY

"Do the Loco-Motion"
"It's Too Late Baby.."

Have I put enough bugs in your ear yet?

She was a genius, until she met some retard from Idaho and disappeared.

tylenol, she has a nice voice.

tt

Lardo.......but will you still love me tomorrow?

SoetorObama not patriotic? Is he un-American?

"... flags rescued from the garbage at SoetorObama’s nomination ceremony last week..."

"Obama Disrespects The National Anthem"

(Could make a tough attack ad from this -- combined with info from his "hidden" past!)

Politics aside, it IS really weird for them to throw away perfectly good little flags on a stick.....they could have done any number of things with them.......

"the regular folks on this blog are going to all be loaded onto the same flatbeds"

I'll save you a spot on the wall beside me. We can brazen it out together without blindfolds.

"Will give you my thoughts with bad grammar spelling and all, thank you." Posted by: SolarCrete| September 6, 2008 7:28 PM

Solar, good then, we'll hear more from you.
Don't worry about grammar and spelling.
You'll fit right in.

"In matters of taste there can be no argument.
--FWNietzsche"

I don't know Sturge. Cindy McCain was giving Mamie Eisenhower a run for her money today.

the hum of the generators lighting the midnight firing squads went on........pocketa pocketa pocketa........

Forgot to include the Flag Pin.

Roseanne said Cindy looks like King Tut.........lol

Oh My Gosh, Tylenol..

The Eva Cassidy "Over The Rainbow" is so amazing.

Thanks. I'm totally dehydrated.

Meanwhile, in the next couple days, I will try to find and post my favorite Judy Garland rendition.

Lardo

"SolarCrete is my new hero."

Mine too. He or she managed to figure out how to get a key and use only one name. How unique.

Sturge...you'll always be my pal, no matter what. We still need to invent that new language together.

And Jamie...in case you haven't already figured it out...you always be the "hot librarian" in my fantasy world here on Trailmix.

"perfectly good little flags on a stick.....they could have done any number of things with them......."

We really do need to recycle all that stuff made in China. The trade imbalance is big enough already.

the librarian......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnFv29iPACc
*********************
also the story which sticks in what passes for my craw about Mrs Palin is the one about her banning books and firing the librarian......that pisses me off.

For my money, the best analysis on the past week was done by Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert. Colbert was nothing short of brilliant on Thursday and Stewart's opening 5 minutes last night was spot-on. I'd link them, but Sumner at Viacom might arrest me.

"Did you see what happened to Chicken Soup?"

It's Really Rosie and it's really real...

Belieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeve me!!!!!

From CAROLE KING & MAURICE SENDAK...

From 1975...

From NBC...

From a fuzzy source...

But mostly from BROOKLYN!!!

Sendak had designed and animated some of the best animated and live action shorts on the early Sesame Street: here he adapts his picture book, The Sign on Rosie's Door and his non-pareil Nutshell Library, writes some new lyrics and animates/directs the Rosiepalooza..

King composes and sings all the songs and plays Rosie. (Also piano.).

Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paWKA2piAA8

Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lLLb1x0a_A

Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBWHjk-5aKk

Sturgeone

Now you really will get me into trouble

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbhnRuJBHLs

9/11.........very nice......thank you large sizes......I'd forgotten all about that so much I wonder if i ever knew about it to begin with..................

How About Chip Taylor?
He wrote Angel of The Morning & Wild Thing among others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip_Taylor

Taylor's best known songs are "Wild Thing", which was originally recorded in 1965 by Jordan Christopher & The Wild Ones but became best known as a 1966 hit single for The Troggs (and a 1967 live performance by Jimi Hendrix), and "Angel of the Morning", a hit first for Merrilee Rush in 1968, and then becoming an even bigger hit in 1981 for country-pop singer Juice Newton (whose single sold more than a million copies in the United States). Other Taylor compositions that made entries onto the pop and country charts include "He Sits at Your Table" (Willie Nelson), "I Can't Let Go" (The Hollies), "Worry" (Johnny Tillotson), "Make Me Belong to You", "I Can Make It With You" (The Pozo Seco Singers, Jackie DeShannon), "Any Way That You Want Me" (The Troggs, Evie Sands, Juice Newton), "Step Out of Your Mind", "Country Girl City Man", "I'll Hold Out My Hand", and "Try (Just a Little Bit Harder)" (Janis Joplin). Country hits written and composed by Taylor include "Sweet Dream Woman" (Waylon Jennings), "A Little Bit Later On Down the Line" (Bobby Bare) and "Son of a Rotten Gambler" (Emmylou Harris, the Hollies, Anne Murra

No librarian was fired and no books were removed.

Carol,

I don't think that it is a subject with which he is comfortable. He has come out agains same sex marriage but voted against DOMA. He is in favor of Civil Unions and full partnership rights. Hard tightrope to walk.

I'm waiting for someone to get smart and have the dual system that is present in most western countries: Civil registration for everyone for government purposes, and then go get "married" at anyplace that will have you, but it has no legal additional legal status.

Lard.. for my money, the best, ABSOLUTE best Judy Garland song is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC9o4oYMIqI

It's all in their faces!! (and the lyrics are SO sad, before they "cheered them up" for later versions).

Anon1
I meant to add but failed to that I wanted to see the whole story about it......sorry.......what is the complete story............

Did she attempt to ban books, and did she attempt to fire the librarian or not? I have yet to hear any refutation of those allegations.

Lard
Love your taste in music.I have everything Carly.Carole King"Tapestry" Superb!Good memories of good times....Thanks.

ST OF LOYALTY

Were any books censored banned? June Pinell-Stephens, chairwoman of the Alaska Library Association's Intellectual Freedom Committee since 1984, checked her files Wednesday and came up empty-handed.

Pinell-Stephens also had no record of any phone conversations with Emmons about the issue back then. Emmons was president of the Alaska Library Association at the time.Books may not have been pulled from library shelves, but there were other repercussions for Emmons.

Four days before the exchange at the City Council, Emmons got a letter from Palin asking for her resignation. Similar letters went to police chief Irl Stambaugh, public works director Jack Felton and finance director Duane Dvorak. John Cooper, a fifth director, resigned after Palin eliminated his job overseeing the city museum.

Palin told the Daily News back then the letters were just a test of loyalty as she took on the mayor's job, which she'd won from three-term mayor John Stein in a hard-fought election. Stein had hired many of the department heads. Both Emmons and Stambaugh had publicly supported him against Palin.

Emmons survived the loyalty test and a second one a few months later.

http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/story/515512.html

You can't cash losers' tickets at the winner's window.

-- Just an aside. Up north of the border, all unions are 'civil unions." If you want a 'marriage," you go to the religious insitution of your choice. But legally, we are all civilly (oh, I suppose some, after a few years, become rather uncivilly!) united.

Has someone linked this? If so, sorry about the repost

RNC theme song: Yes we Klan!! LMAO

http://www.ucbcomedy.com/videos/play/2595

Tylenol

What made that song particularly heart wrenching is that is came out in the last year of WWII. Everyone knew is was ending but exactly when and who would make it home safe was still a mystery.

That song and "I'll be home for Christmas" from 1943 were the two tear jerkers of the period.

"Were any books banned? June Pinell-Stephens, chairwoman of the Alaska Library Association's Intellectual Freedom Committee since 1984, checked her files Wednesday and came up empty-handed."
http://www.kentucky.com/329/story/515106.html

Sarah Palin Blog, this would be the people with Appalachia roots support.

http://sarah-palin-2008.blogspot.com/

It was not a loyalty oath but a test of loyalty, since they had publicly supported her opponent

singer songwriters

Joe Green--can't spell his name in Italian

"Actions do speak louder than words. Democrats tossed 12,000 American flags in the garbage following their convention. This sort of thing takes the breath away. How much do you have to hate America to do such a thing? Have they never heard of the fine people of the VFW and American Legion who proudly help dispose of worn and otherwise useless flags with dignity?

All Americans need to understand the kind of people running the Democratic Party.

The callous, disrespectful disposal of some 12,000 handheld American flags left behind at Invesco Field following the Barackopolis speech is being skillfully manipulated by the McCain campaign ..."

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/09/nobody_is_saying_they_are_unpa.html

Giuseppi Verdi

"No complimentary words about Senator or President Clinton shall ever pass your lips. "

All pols demand loyalty, they can't have sharks in the tank with them.

GORDO,

ROFL, just thinking about all ur posts everyday and all- day, u must be a spurned wanna-be lover of obama. he must have broken ur heart when yal were at harvard and u tried to give him ur heart but he said get lost. u got some serious anger and past hurt issues u need to deal with and seek professional help. were u rejected or molested as a child? what's with the anger and lies. all these stupid lying post everyday and all-day will not cause obama to fall in love with u. why would he? just go and look in the mirror and look at ur pathetic, low-life, angry, nothing better to do other than write stupid stuff and lies, self. just look at look at urself and be honest is this what ur life have come to? why would anyone want me... i know some people close to the obama campaign if u leave a number i will contact them and see if obama might call and tell u he is sorry, and i will contact a psycho-therapist to get u some help. don't just get a life, get a better life.

Up thread UB posted a youtube that was cut and paste job on Sarah Palin. As many of you remember I didn't like the hack jobs done on Reverend Wright where words and phrases were taken out and turned around to mean things that weren't meant. I feel the same about some of the attacks on Sarah Palin.
Here is the whole video where the cut and paste was taken

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG1vPYbRB7k

Jack

And she did try to get her fired for not removed books Mayor Palin didn't approve of, and public outcry prevented the firing from happening. This is not the type of story anyone who understands the concept of what it means to live in a free society should be trying to defen

IF she tried to fire her it was for supporting the previous mayor you stupid git.

"Were any books banned? June Pinell-Stephens, chairwoman of the Alaska Library Association's Intellectual Freedom Committee since 1984, checked her files Wednesday and came up empty-handed."
http://www.kentucky.com/329/story/515106.html

Were any books censored banned? June Pinell-Stephens, chairwoman of the Alaska Library Association's Intellectual Freedom Committee since 1984, checked her files Wednesday and came up empty-handed.

Pinell-Stephens also had no record of any phone conversations with Emmons about the issue back then. Emmons was president of the Alaska Library Association at the time.Books may not have been pulled from library shelves, but there were other repercussions for Emmons.

got to looking into joe alioto, which led me to a map of san fran.......then noticed the area was close to china town......remembered me when I stayed at the Manx Hotel in '63, corner of Powell and O'Farrell streets......walked around in china town cause my old man used to tell me when he was stationed in SF during the tail end of the war (he fixed Joe Stillwell's telephone) he used to hang out at a particular restaurant in china town every time he could get away

Rev. Wright's Greatest Hits!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AND-e_j28LY&feature=related

pretty salient stuff here:
When the matter came up for the second time in October 1996, during a City Council meeting, Anne Kilkenny, a Wasilla housewife who often attends council meetings, was there.

Like many Alaskans, Kilkenny calls the governor by her first name.

"Sarah said to Mary Ellen, 'What would your response be if I asked you to remove some books from the collection?" Kilkenny said.

"I was shocked. Mary Ellen sat up straight and said something along the line of, 'The books in the Wasilla Library collection were selected on the basis of national selection criteria for libraries of this size, and I would absolutely resist all efforts to ban books.'"

what angers me is the fact that she felt the need to look into the possible removal of some books from the library......that's bonehead territory.
Also that is just unacceptable, loyalty or no......

Yo Craig,

May I ask what avg. daily traffic to your blog is and to how much a 'spike' equates? Thanks.

June Pinell-Stephens, chairwoman of the Alaska Library Association's Intellectual Freedom Committee since 1984, checked her files Wednesday and came up empty-handed.

Pinell-Stephens version is different then Kilkenny's. Whom some have described politely as a "gadfly." Attends every council meeting???????

It is very common for a mayor to ask for letters of resignation.

Cleaning house: Mayor Newsom asks for across-the-board resignations

Cecilia M. Vega, Heather Knight, Chronicle Staff Writers

Tuesday, September 11, 2007

San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom on Monday asked hundreds of high-ranking San Francisco officials, including the chief of police and the mayor's chief of staff, to hand in their resignation letters, signaling a major City Hall shakeup.

Bratton Asks Police Aides For Resignation Letters

By DENNIS HEVESI
Published: January 9, 1994

Fifteen of the highest-ranking officials in the New York City Police Department have been told to submit undated letters of resignation by noon tomorrow and to be ready to assess their strengths in discussions with the new Police Commissioner, William J. Bratton, this week, the department's chief spokesman said yesterday.

Tylenol...I think this is my favorite version ever, even better than in the Wizard of Oz...

She was just with Bob Hope, singing for the troops...on his old overseas radio show. It was clearly just another gig for her. But she still makes you cry. Because you know Hollywood is about to drug her to death and kill her...but that's still all in the future.

(Famously, on this same show....Lana Turner cooked a steak in a frying pan, and Betty Hutton sang a song called "Murder, He Said" which is one of the funniest things ever filmed)

Duh...I guess it would help if I posted the Judy Garland link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToU6YP9zRQ4

Kilkenny had been fisked.

"a Wasilla housewife who often attends council meetings"

during my community work I've seen a few of those people. as she is the source for most of these attacks I wouldn't bet too much money on the facts being correct.

Jack

an aside.....it was the librarians who stood up and fought the homeland security efforts to track peoples' use of computers and books checked out etc......Vonnegut, among others, has written about this and what went down........
I'm mighty partial to librarians.......

Here's the Betty Hutton song from the same show...really hilarious.

She was awesome:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClGNm89GZBE

Hey gang...when the "right wing" really does have its final revolution and REALLY does take over this country for good, I'd say a good 80 percent of the regular folks on this blog are going to all be loaded onto the same flatbeds.

Posted by: LardassLiberal Author Profile Page | September 6, 2008 7:47 PM

Guess what, LL? The Right wing is setting up the board; the Left will take all the pieces.

So what's your point OLT?
political loyalty is different then censorship

Ok......the crux.......did she or did she not "look into" the removal of some books ?

I want to know the truth of that allegation, and that allegation alone.

and I CAN stand the truth.

Maybe Palin asked on behalf of someone at her Church .
Maybe some of her supporters asked her to check policy.
Maybe she was just curious.
Maybe it didn't happen at all.

Jack.......did you attend a lot of meetings when doing your community work?

Palin did not look into the removal of some books.

And no credible source can be provided that says she did.
Several links saying she did not have already been posted.

The Right wing is setting up the board; the Left will take all the pieces.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMrm7ZQ0aMA

Jack

perhaps I can buy the idea that as mayor she was checking into book banning for church people she knew ........but then it still comes to the same point......whether it was her idea, or the church's idea, or some uncle, aunt, or other's idea.....instead of telling them banning books is not legal, nor american.....she may have looked into the banning of books....

I'm going to keep digging and see what I can find.....

I'll keep you's posted............

Murder, he says!

there’s some buzz being generated that says that this post contains a comment that lists the books that Palin supposedly wanted banned. The list is here, but there appears to be no truth to the claim made by the commenter, and no further documentation or support for this has turned up.

librarian.net
faq about talks
putting the rarin back in librarian since 1999

Palin did not look into the removal of some books.

And no credible source can be provided that says she did.
Several links saying she did not have already been posted.

Posted by: Obama loyalty oath | September 6, 2008 9:46 PM

OK, dude or dudetta.........that's what I intend to find out about...........I wont mention it again until i find a sticking point................

That is the most stupid thing I've read in ages around here, no small feet on your part!

Another Betty Hutton classic. "Rumble."

From "Perils of Pauline:

It's worth the watch, especially once you see how she moves that body on the edge of that stage...(I'm talking specifically to you, Jack, you old horndog. This will make you forget about Sarah Palin).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1y7QgCmAPo

Another statement from the Democratic National Convention Committee:

"Stories circulating about flags at the Democratic National Convention are false.

We distributed more than 125,000 American made flags at the Convention - the flags removed from Invesco field were intended for other events and taken without permission. It's disappointing that someone would take American flags without authorization and then falsely describe how they were being used."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/06/thrown-away-flags-story-f_n_124499.html

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080906/ap_on_el_pr/palin_gays;_ylt=Ao9BRpl

Gov. Sarah Palin's church is promoting a conference that promises to convert gays into heterosexuals through the power of prayer.

statements that she did not are quite meaningless if she actually did.......all them politicians are prone to lying about stuff.........

if she didnt, it should be easily proven that she did not, right?
I hope so.

Sturge

enough.to know that city council/committe meetings are made up of several types
the council critters, their hired flunkys, who are the real brains that you need on your side. People like me who are only there to get a problem addressed, then the gadflys. As ms McKinney was not a city employee or councilcritter, and people with problems aren't frequent attendees, that leaves a gadfly. Could be could be not. but I know where my money is going.

Jack

Take the straight and stronger course, Jack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1mxJuYgDAw

Chloe

"...no small feet on your part!"

How big are your feet?. I got socks of all sizes in here.

T"he answer: Palin did bring up the issue of removing books from the library, but there's no proof that she ever actually banned any particular books. Unfortunately, the Truth Patrol can't cite titles of books Palin disliked."

"Barack Obama's first book, Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance, had just come out in 1995. Perhaps Palin had a premonition that she would one day run against Obama and wanted to remove his book from the library."
http://blogs.rockymountainnews.com/dnc_truth_patrol/archives/2008/09/did-sarah-palin-ban-books-at-a.html"

warren........lol........now yas is gettin' somewhere......that's a superb twist of fate there, by golly..............

Lard.....very cool on the button with Hutton........

Boston Herald article on book banning controversy

http://news.bostonherald.com/news/2008/view.bg?articleid=1117009&srvc=2008campaign&position=15

Supposedly there was something in the 1996 Frontiersman and picked up by the Alaskan Herald, but I haven't found it as yet.

Shortly after becoming mayor, former city officials and Wasilla residents said, Ms. Palin approached the town librarian about the possibility of banning some books, though she never followed through and it was unclear which books or passages were in question.

The librarian said she was opposed to the banning of any books. She was not fired.

Here's the list of books she was supposedly trying to ban:

http://www.adlerbooks.com/banned.html

Chloe,

"Kool-aid" in any flavor is full of sugar and bereft of nutrition. Stay critical.

It's my nature Champ.

Word.

I'm not sure she has a US COLB either.

Repeating and pimping false stories about Palin degrade the ones that are true.

The library story is a crock and by repeating it the real attacks against her become less credible and more fodder for the Republicans to attack the media.

Sorry, slipped away for L&O CI (ohhh I do like that Vincent D'Onofrio)

Thanks for the links, Lard. They were all great! Garland was a wonder. All that talent. All that sadness.

I definitely haven't found any sourcing for the "book list". This seems to be someone's creation not based in truth.

Palin didn't mention specific books at that meeting, Kilkenny said.

Palin herself, questioned at the time, called her inquiries rhetorical and simply part of a policy discussion with a department head "about understanding and following administration agendas," according to the Frontiersman article.

Warren --------------------

Damage control -- will not work.

This is a "trap" for SoetorObama.

Dems are off message and just where the Repubs want them -- defending their patriotism.

Who cares about Palin. Nothing in her personal background matter as much as the fact that McCain/Palin propose the same GOP policies that have gotten us into our current mess.

Nothing about the candidates' personal stories or character does anything to change that.

Solar,

Thanks for the "shout-outs". Don't make it a habit, I have a hard time finding hats that fit as it is.

Yo G-man, do more research on Z-man.

You're right GORDO. This is what the GOP does every election.

And people are starting to catch on. There is plenty of time to make this election about the issues.

"There is plenty of time to make this election about the issues."

~That would be a first.

"Who cares about Palin. Nothing in her personal background matter as much as the fact that McCain/Palin propose the same GOP policies that have gotten us into our current mess."

Bingo!!

As my wife said tonight she is the VP treat her like one ignore her soon everybody else will.
For Obama to even think about her let alone mention her as he did today is stupid. imo

Jack

I think the Republicans are setting themselves up to fall into a trap of their own. Talking about the angry left and arguing that anyone that disagrees with the Republican platform is unpatriotic.

There are plenty of Americans that are angry with the direction this Country is headed - and they are far from unpatriotic.

Warren

You are absolutely correct. Getting dragged off into these little issues is tempting but serves no useful purpose. Trusting these people with the White House for another four, much less eight, years is pure insanity.

We need to toss the current occupant out on his posterior hard enough that he bounces all the way back to Texas and then take control of Congress and the White House at least long enough to clean up the god awful mess he and his cohorts have made.

Here ya go...fifth item down on the page.. it's a beaut! thank you Jon Stewart

http://www.crooksandliars.com/

Obama made his bed when he decided to stump vom das Vaterland, warren.

Champ

Talking about issues always loses you votes.
That said Obama is going to have to come out of his prevent defense. The other folks are running right through it.
Time to decide what voters he can afford to lose and take a stand on an issue.

Jack

Obama sounds a lot more like GWB2000 than McCain does, tylenol.

A Must Watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MpTNdcM_e0&feature=related

http://www.newsweek.com/id/157376

A letter to Hillary

Palin McCain would never get my vote for an extremely large number of reasons.......it's not like the book issue of palin's changes anything whether she did or didnt.......but I stand by my original point......(or under it......) that if she looked into removing some books, that's enough to raise my dander to a high degree of raised danderage..............

angry left and ............................................unpatriotic.

Warren
take out the clutter and there is what they are pushing.
hate to tell you but that has become a standard definition for the left in a lot of the country.

Jack

Don't even get me started on Gloria Swanson.

Carol Burnett dined out for years on her parody of Gloria in "Sunset Boulevard." Like it was some dumb old, irrelevant movie and that Gloria Swanson was somehow not self-aware in her performance. And the Burnett parody, unfortunately, is what has stuck in the collective consciousness.

But what was never said was that Gloria's performance in the movie, itself, was an even more masterful and brilliantly sophisticated parody of a still older form.

Watch the movie again if you don't believe it. She was magnificent. I consider it one of the greatest performances of any movie actress.

We should watch and listen to old movie stars alot more than we do.

Okay. Fourth quarter starting now. And, for those who care, the Gators' offense has SUCKED tonight!

Posted by: unlikely_burrito Author Profile Page | September 6, 2008 10:30 PM

Dear Hillary,
Where are you? We haven't heard from you since your strong and eloquent speech at the Democratic National Convention. You might be taking a well-deserved vacation--certainly you must need one after all those arduous months campaigning. But we need to hear from you right now. We need your voice to speak for all the women (and there are many of us) who are angry at the assumption that, just because Sarah Palin is female, we will fall in line behind her.

The first paragraph is false since Clinton has been campaigning for Obama since the convention. Clinton had made several statements and who is Patti Davis?.

Warren ------------------

This will fit into revelations from SoetorObama's "hidden" past. Just another piece of the jigsaw puzzle that is SoetorObama. The "picture" that will be seen when the Repubs complete the puzzle -- shocking.

that if she looked into removing some books, that's enough to raise my dander to a high degree of raised danderage..............

What is your conclusion?

GORDO:

What's the deal with refusing the call him Senator?

Is it like a secret code in the Dungeons and Dragon-like world of the far Right Wing underground?

Ok Champ. Ya didn't like that one. Let's try this one. Colbert from Thursday night. Fifth item down again...

http://www.crooksandliars.com/page/2/

And with that, I'm off to bed. Night everyone.

Hey 9/11!

I used Chicken soup with Rice for years with kids. Gets into your pours.

tt

no conclusion at this point......I'd like to hear from the Emmons lady herself about whether this alleged "inquiry" took place......

but as a general possibility......it appears probable that she looked into the possibility of removing certain books......

my raised dander is not by any means something which should cause Ms Palin any concern, you understand........it's not as if anyone is paying any large amount of attention to me or my dander.......

it's not personal......it's just business.......lol

Warren -----------------------

"There is plenty of time to make this election about the issues."

The Issue will be SoetorObama's "hidden" past. SoetorObama will defeat himself. All the Repubs need to do is spread the TRUTH about his "hidden" past.

Champ your welcome

And I won't make it a habit-a cpl of times I have wanted to yell and put in some solarcrete concrete in that big (head)oops hat of yours to shrink it back to size, but you did it on your own-keep on keepen em guessing.

I love how McCain supposedly reclaims his "maverick" role with his VP selection - even though he:

A. Caved to the Right to pick an ultra-conservative

B. Made his pick in a purely political move to attract female voters and solidy the base

C. Made a pick that undermines his central argument of "experience". Now McCain has 2 months to present him self as the candidate of "change" - even though Obama based his campaign on that message from the outset.

In making the pick - instead of going his own way - McCain caved to the Right Wing, Politics and Obama.

first this:

http://chaosdigest.com/files/images/bush-mccain-hug-72.jpg

my next post will be a thousand words.

Sturg...

Quick! Before someone bans it! Read "Lamb - The Gospel According to Biff, Christ's Childhood Pal" by Christopher Moore. I've recommended it to you before, but I hadn't read it myself at that point. However, it had been recommended to me by someone whose assessment of such matters I trust implicitly, so I took the chance and mentioned it to you. I just started reading it today, and my friend was right. It really is laugh out loud wonderful!

Rudee Judy Annie thought censorship was part of being mayor.

Boston's Mayor, Thomas Menino, responded in irrational haste by ordering the city to purchase censorware -- specifically CyberPatrol -- and to install it on all computers in the Boston Public Library systems, on all computers within the Boston Public schools, and on all other city computers as well, including the computers at Boston City Hall.

Shamefully, the Trustees of the Boston Public Library defied the American Library Association's Library Bill of Rights and approved the Mayor's fiat.

The "liberal" Boston Globe applauded the Mayor's move, in a Pecksniffian editorial that began, "Pornography pollutes the Internet like smog on a sunny day" and stressed the need for "filtering smut." The Globe repeated the tired argument that the only way we can avoid government censorship is by censoring ourselves -- thus making government censorship unnecessary. (Why are liberals constitutionally incapable of understanding that self-censorship is the worst censorship of all?)

BEHIND THE SCENES:
"The Mayor's Office Censored My Painting at Artscape"
by Aaron Edelson

by Aaron Edelson
Baltimore's Artscape is supposed to provide a unique chance for local artists to create an aesthetic playground. However, Mayor O'Malley's office removed one of my paintings from Artscape's City Hall exhibit because it was deemed "offensive."

champ, you asked about traffic. we average about 6,000 page views per day (that is individual readers, as opposed to numbers of hits, always an inflated figure as it counts repeated visits by individual users). friday's spike topped 20,000 page views for some reason (apparently due to links on huffington and a few other blogs). our lurkers, by the way, generally total about 15-20 times the number of posted comments. not surprisingly, that number rises dramatically on days we are linked on other high-traffic blogs.

Craig, here's the 1% 9% 90% Rule.

1% Heavy contributors

9% Intermittent contributors

90% Lurkers

http://www.useit.com/alertbox/participation_inequality.html

If I go to a site and like it, I HAVE to put in my 2 cents.

tt

Therefore, 90% of postings are from 1% of the users, etc.

tt

Harbor.....that looks good.....I remember you mentioning it but this time it goes on my list......thanks....

6000 ...............whew.......now i have stage fright........

oops:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8tASws-tvw

Just adding some perspective to the discussion

Nothing you would be interested in as a flame thrower- facts and context are of no concern to you

You thought the librarian had been asked to sign a loyalty oath.

No, you tried to write off Palin's inquiring into book banning as some loyalty test.

False. You did that. I pointed out the city department heads , several besides the librarian were asked to submit letters of resignation because they supported the former mayor.

And that you did not appear to know the difference between a loyalty oath and a loyalty test and that is still true.

Bristol Palin

Just what we need another Britany Spears in the WH.

tina fey is sooooo adorable........

UB
Thanks for that Newsweek link.I hope Hillary doesn't say anything regarding Palin,that's Joe Biden's territory and he's more than up for it.Hillary is coming to Florida on behalf of the Obama/Biden ticket on Monday.Someone asked who is Patti Davis? I think its Ronald Reagan's daughter....

FOX: McCain Campaign Recovers American Flags Trashed By DNC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_0mPmDnlvI

That's a good one. Even one of those right leaning pundits said he'd be saying a powerful prayer for McCain health every night if he's elected. Not a lot of faith in SP.

Hey G Man. . was that your buddy Larry Sinclair dumpster diving again?

Thanks, Craig.

Yeah, no kidding Sturge... I was under the illusion I was talking to 10-15 people. 6000 people a day see the caliber of _______ I am?! Think I'll... uh... scale back the participation, a little.

Posted by: setting a new record for stupidity | September 7, 2008 12:09 AM

They couldn't print the Guiness Book fast enough.

probably a high percentage never read past the first 3 or 4 comments, if they even click the comments on.....I almost never click to the comments on huffington, crooksand, or firedog lake......

but if they do........where else could I attain such a large amount of readership? lol

Man, proud man, drest in a little brief authority, most ignorant of what he's most assur d, glassy essence, like an angry ape, plays such fantastic tricks before high heaven, as make the angels weep.
--shake

Wonderful. Now I'm making angels cry, too? OK, Craig, how many unique hits from celestial IP's a day?

NEW THREAD

youre so vain......you probably thought that post was about you.........lol

him not know his ice from hole in ground

I'm hitting you up, Sturge. The 3 must-read Shakespearean Plays? Go!