Craig on "Countdown with Keith Olbermann" Tonight (8/1) MSNBC 8:55 PM EST
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The campaign is turning into a couple of brats fighting back and forth on a daily basis.
Obama seems to think he needs to quickly respond to every single thing said about him. This is a big mistake. Respond to the big stuff or you just play into the Gop (avoid the issues) strategy.
The campaign is turning into a couple of brats fighting back and forth on a daily basis.
Obama seems to think he needs to quickly respond to every single thing said about him. This is a big mistake. Respond to the big stuff or you just play into the Gop (avoid the issues) strategy.
The advertising industry must love it. The politics of change is really expensive. Who says there's no such thing as too much money. And besides, Townhalls are way too revealing. No place to hide when you're face to face with the people.
Anthrax scientist commits suicide as FBI closes in
A top U.S. biodefense researcher apparently committed suicide just as the Justice Department was about to file criminal charges against him in the anthrax mailings that traumatized the nation in the weeks following the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, according to a published report.
Chloe..I think I'll make coffee too. I went to the midnight opening of the new Mummy movie. Lots of fun. Brenden Frasier always seems like a big kid having fun in his movies. I was surprised so many people were there..familieswith small kids..surprised me.
The knothead list works for me. There are a lot of interesting people here and I want to concentrate on them. I likie the term, knucklehead" also.
"Brenden Frasier always seems like a big kid having fun in his movies."
That's what I love about Brenden Frasier too!.
I was looking forward to 'Swing Vote' with Kevin Costner' this weekend. The previews looked so funny. It's supposed to open today, but I don't see it on the schedule yet.
Regarding the "Race Card":
Of course, Obama's comment was "The" race card. I'm a Black Democrat and I recognize it clearly. Quick Observations: (a) Why didn't/hasn't the predominately white media recognized and acknowledged it for what it is, was and has been? If the McCain camp had indeed said something so blatant, the outcry would have been deafening. (b) It was a brilliant pre-emptive strike by the McCain campaign to assure that they will not be race-boated by the Obama campaign has was done so effectively against the Clintons. Not only has a marker been officially-for-the-record established as to when race was introduced into the GE campaign but by whom, but another bridge has been offered to the Clinton enthusiasts -- "see, they tried to do it to us, too!".
Oregon, I didn't think you were usually up so early.
I just read a review on the NYT and they aren't raving about the movie, but I'm still looking forward to seeing it. They describe it as: This Guy’s for You “Swing Vote” is about life, liberty and the pursuit of Budweiser.
Now I have to feed my critters. They're complaining early today.
Hillary has apparently asked that she not be nominated for President at Democratic convention.
NY Daily News reports that a source close to Hillary confirms that she won't file a formal request to the convention asking to be nominated for President.
Party rules require that a written request to be nominated must be submitted, as well as a petition signed by at least 300 delegates--without her signed request, petitions of support are meaningless.
Although delegates may vote for whomever they want during the roll call, the report is that Hillary (personally & through surrogates) has counseled her 1886 delegates to vote for Obama & that she may release those delegates when she speaks to the convention.
Thanks for the link to "McCain Accuses Obama of playing politics with race."
It just seems to me that anytime anyone questions Obama, that this person is
accused of being a racist. As I recall, this is how Camp Obama swiftboated
Hillary.
got a few minutes before I have to pack my car with my inventory.....
Craig.... great video..... love the choo choo train and the whiskey flask on the shelf behind you.....and I bet I know where you got that Ben Franklin mug..... :0)
haven't seen many of the ads..... not bothering to watch any cable news this summer..... I'll get back into it in the fall....
While I do believe that the Obama crowd is playing "The Race Card" now and did it before to Sen. Clinton, I also believe that the McCain folks have the worst possible media advisors.
While Brittney and Paris may be two empty headed, celebritards famous for being famous, you would think the McCain folks would know that if you put two blond females in an anti-Obama ad that the "racist" charges would be the immediate fall out.. Haven't they been paying attention to their viral emails?
Oh Patsi, I see you've got your idiot hat on early. Obama simply stated how the McCain campaign was going to define him. And guess what? He's right, just like how dumb the Clinton campaign was when they decided to make the Barack "remember Jesse Jackson won South Carolina" Obama comment. But since you have little understanding about how race works in this country, you obviously don't know what you're talking about. See Obama is smart enough to not get the "you needed that job" white hands treatment that Harvey Gantt received in NC, or the blonde "Call me" bimbo treatment your beloved Harold Ford, Jr. received in Tennessee, or the classic "Willie Horton" treatment that Dukakis received during his campaign. Better to attack than to sit back passively, as you'd like a candidate to do.
Great video spot, and I love the mantle behind you. Now in here, who are the Sharks and who are the Jets? For all the cross fire in the Democratic camps, only Fry Daddy and Ping Pong are on the Republican side of things.
Alpha Omega Obama house has pledged a new sorority sister. Gene Robinson. Looks like Meeker handed over the house paddle to Schuster. No, saying that BO would rather lose a war if it means he can win a campaign doesn’t say that he’s unpatriotic or un-American so much as it says that he is so self-serving that he would make poor choices.
MoJo’s the only one with any common sense in that studio today. BO is incredibly famous without having produced anything yet; that’s the correlation between him, Britney & Paris. Where do they get off saying it’s a juxtaposition of races?
That’s exactly what the BO campaign wants. BO can’t throw a temper tantrum, so he tries to play that card, again. (And to think, I had big hopes for this guy six months ago.) The race card. It’s the temper tantrum of 2008.
However, these are just more distractions. I’m pining for some meat-n-potatoes debates, but all the media serves up is doughy Wonder bread that constipates the political process and has little nutrional value.
This Wal-Mart story is disturbing on so many levels.
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In recent weeks, thousands of Wal-Mart store managers and department heads have been summoned to mandatory meetings at which the retailer stresses the downside for workers if stores were to be unionized.”
I think unions are just the boogey-man; their real concern is raising of the minimum wage. They also benefit from high gas prices and outsourcing manufacturing jobs which force folks to shop there & run alternative stores out of business. To paraphrase Tennessee Ernie Ford’s song, we’re gonna owe our souls to the company store.
"It just seems to me that anytime anyone questions Obama, that this person is accused of being a racist. As I recall, this is how Camp Obama swiftboated Hillary."
PM,
Exactly. Even the most obtuse observers are recognizing the pattern.
But if they'd used two young black singers -- or that black airhead on The View -- they'd have been called even more racist. Face it -- anything now is going to be called racist. When trying to give LBJ some credit for Civil Rights legislation became a racist issue, it was all over.
But what surprised me was the effect that Ludicrous song is having. I figured nobody but a few around her (like me) would get PO'd because of the continuing Hillary/bitch theme. But I was talking to a guy who travels and meets a lot of blue collar workers in various cities....last night he told me in the past several days there's been a great deal of talk about this song, and partly because of the McCain/paralyzed line. Obama was smart to quickly disassociate himself with that one.
I'm with you on the total inanity of this campaign. Unfortunately, they may be serving up what the majority of the American public can understand. A sincere discussion of the issues and how to resolve the myriad problems currently facing the nation would be met with a barrage of remote controls clicking.
If they were going with the "celebrity/fandom" theme, I would have used something like a screaming fainting crowd of teenyboppers rather than single images.
More than that, the whole series of ads the McCain people have put out have been clumsy, filled with errors, and looking as old fashioned as their candidate.
Oh, and Mr. D -- I guess criticising Obama for his FISA vote is racist. And when he screws up as president, if anyone questions him it'll be racist. And if the one criticising him is a woman he'll just run in one of his surrogates, like Luricrous, to call her a bitch.
More on Germans: Three Hogan's Heroes programs on HDN starting at 8:30 EST. Channel 306 on Directv.
When we were stationed at Ft Sill in '65 there was a nice German lady who lived across the hall from us. All semblance of niceness departed when Hogan's Heroes came on the air.
She and Stinky used to have really interesting conversations using universal hand gestures. They got along well.
Nope Patsi and that's why you have no understanding of race. You simply have a third graders view of race where it's all or nothing. I suggest you get some books on race in order to understand the complexities. And I'll suggest some. But I think you're much more comfortable wallowing in your ignorance about the subject.
Saying Patsi has a 3rd graders understanding of anything means you haven't been paying attention. Could it be that you too easily leap to "racism" as a charge where none exists.
It is possible to think someone is inexperienced and unqualified without it having anything to do with race.
Being against drilling for oil offshore is a LOSER for democrats. When the republicans succeed in trying high energy prices to democratic obstruction they win. Plus, if the democrats change their mind, bingo - flip-flop.
So how old is MD? 16? That sounds like something a 16yr old would say. In fact all MD/bye bye posts sound like a teenage boy, playing at what he thinks an AA intellectual would sound like.
The Cost of Oil Subsidies
Unfortunately, a large share of the world’s population is not responding to high energy prices. Across the developing world, governments are subsidizing energy, blunting the incentive to conserve by keeping prices low. They are absorbing the savings made by industrial countries and helping to raise oil prices by stoking demand. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/01/opinion/01fri3.html?_r=1&ref=opinion&oref=slogin
Gotta go face the cold cruel world now.
Have a good day.
"I think Mr. D thinks we're all racists, because he is"
I don't think so, he has picked up a bunch of those old hoary cliches that mediocre Jr college lecturers use. He probably thinks it makes him look cool and intellectual. No real thinking involved.
Shuster just said that Claire McCaskill is one of the best surrogates Sen. Obama has. My antenna must be on crooked because every time I start liking him, she comes on and it is instantaneous ... Yuck! A possible eight years of listening to that?
Jack, if an African American intellectual walked in your house and said, "I'm an African American intellectual", you still wouldn't be able to recognize one.
Chloe, whatever gets you through the night.
Jamie: Stop with the dumb comparisons. There's a narrative that the McCain campaign is building and it's about feeding into the racial biases Americans have about African Americans. Not deserving. Arrogant. Presumptive. Who does he think he is? Americans are not used to African Americans who make no apologies for competing on traditionally 100 percent white turf and beating you. And whatever the field, there's always blowback. Remember when Tiger started winning and Fuzzy Zoeller decided to go over a menu of fried chicken and collard greens? The same is happening during this campaign. But, like always, we triumph over the ignorance.
I have met one of the photogs listed on that link Jamie provided. Herman Leonard. This was in Houston and was pre Katrina. He was living in New Orleans at the time. He must be in his late 70's or early 80's now. Very well known jazz musician photographer. All his images were made in the late 50's in NYC when he was working as a advertising photog in the village. He told me that he had a studio that he would turn into a jazz club and he would invite the musicians to his studio in the daytime when they were playing at night so he could make his images. Very nice man.
mr. d, feb 5, 2008 was the 138th anniversary of the 15th amendment's ratification, which guaranteed black men the right to vote in 1870. 50 years later the little ladies, black and white, got their chance. is it that you merely want them to wait their turn in all fairness?
"Not deserving. Arrogant. Presumptive. Who does he think he is? Americans are not used to African Americans who make no apologies for competing on traditionally 100 percent white turf and beating you. And whatever the field, there's always blowback. Remember when Tiger started winning and Fuzzy Zoeller decided to go over a menu of fried chicken and collard greens?"
That is apples and oranges. If Tiger had been a white golfer, he would still be one of the greatest golfers who ever played the game. The Zoeller comment WAS racist and stupid.
If Barack Obama were white with his experience, he wouldn't have gotten the speech at the last convention and he certainly wouldn't have been running for President. In this case being black is actually working in his favor because it brings him to the attention of power brokers who wouldn't have backed him for at least another four to eight years.
This doesn't mean that he can't handle the job. It just means it wouldn't have been offered it in the first place if he had been white. Even with her charitable, international, and senatorial experience you could make a case that being a woman benefitted Sen. Clinton.
Actually, this WSJ slant is the funniest of all....God 'amighty! I first thought it might be a joke....ala The Onion. But nooooo.
"In a nation in which 66% of the voting-age population is overweight and 32% is obese, could Sen. Obama's skinniness be a liability? Despite his visits to waffle houses, ice-cream parlors and greasy-spoon diners around the country, his slim physique just might have some Americans wondering whether he is truly like them."
Marcia, it may have been before your time here, but just FYI, Mr. Democrat used to go under the moniker Bye Bye Billary, but dropped that to try and be less antagonistic toward Hillary supporters after Obama clinched the nomination. As you can see, the only thing that changed was the name. MD, stupid and blind are two things yoou seem to be familiar with, but misapply to some of the more intelligent and thoughtful posters here regularly. I guess you've been staring into the light too long.
Patsi, you said in your 7:47 comment the same thing I said to Mrs. P this morning while we were watching MoJo pointing out that the McSame campaign has not raised race as an issue thus far, so Obama did instead.
Anyone catch Axelrod trying to defend Obama's comments on MoJo this morning? It was clear that even he wasn't buying what he was trying to sell. Folks, the wheels are starteing to come off the train, and trying to stand on celebrity instead of going head to head with McOldfart is not helping Obama. It's just my opinion, but I attribute the falling lead reflected in the Gallup daily (now down to 1%) to the world tour and the appearance that Obama won't engage McNN directly. Berlin may have been a very gratifying stop for Barack, but it isn't helping him here. Get a grip, agree to debates, and spend your time campaigning in the US - or get used to the sound of President McCain.
Flatus, if you like Hogan's Heroes, and what's not to like - it has become a regular evening feature on TVLand. (Ch. 65 on Time-Warner Cable).
The 15th amendment theoretically gave African Americans the right to vote. However, after Reconstruction, African Americans were effectively disinfranchised. And while white women didn't get the vote until the 20th Century, it could be argued that theoretically, their husbands cast a vote for their interests. Black women couldn't say the same as when the black man lost the vote, the whole black family was unrepresented.
Patsi: I don't hope to enlighten thickheaded people.
Jamie: You say that about Tiger now, but the same arguments used against Tiger (who does he think he is? Too young. Arrogant without having won yet. Overrated.) where said about him when he first got on the tour. You have the gift of hindsight to know that Tiger fulfilled his potential.
And you're using the classic trick of condemning the obvious as being racist and stupid, mainly because it's easy to do right now, but ignoring the contemporary equivalents because that's much harder to do and your interests might be tied to those interests.
And your notion that Barack only spoke at the Dem convention because of his color is as demeaning as saying that he wouldn't have gotten into Harvard without his race. What quantitative analysis do you have that says this is true? And if you make slippery slope accusations like that, then it is fair game to say that without Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton would not have the accomplishments she has now.
don't know him but I didn't know Leonard either before I went to that lecture and show.
I am looking forward to attending a photography opening at the Afterimage Gallery tonight over in Dallas. The opening is for a fellow named Robb Kendrick. He has been photographing working cowboys in Texas using an alternative photo method. He is making Tintypes. (the real name is wet plate colloidian) There is only one of an image and no enlargement. should be a good show here is his website pretty cool looking stuff. http://www.robbkendrick.com/
MD, stupid and blind are two things yoou seem to be familiar with, but misapply to some of the more intelligent and thoughtful posters here regularly. I guess you've been staring into the light too long.
Disagree. This is a stupid comment. Throw the baby out with the bathwater.
"It should be even more so with anonymous comments. They shouldn't start off with a credibility rating of, say, 0. It should be more like negative-30."
Doots -- Henry Diltz did the photo of Crosby, Stills and Nash....and maybe more on there. This morning, they said that when he took that photo the group hadn't named themselves. So when they did, the photo order was reversed and people got the names confused at times early on:
It was a response to Mr. D. and means exactly what it says. If Barack Obama were a white Senator who had limited Senatorial experience, no international experience, no important legislation on which he led, no real state level experience because of jumping from one position to another etc., then he would not be considered a serious Presidential contender for at least another four to eight years.
He never would have been given that prime time speaking spot four years ago that started him on his Presidential campaign in his very first year in the Senate.
It doesn't take a thing away from his brilliance or capacity to do the job to say, no one would have taken him seriously for several more years if he hadn't been black. Being black got his foot in the door. Now he needs to prove he can do the job.
He is very fortunate that the Republicans are running John McCain who has no business being anywhere near the oval office.
I may be wrong, but I think there is a winning argument in the drilling issue - couched in the unused leases and lack of development of alternatives. If a died in the wool oilman and arch concerservative like TBoone can make the argument that drilling is not the answer to energy independence, although it is part of the answer, surely the Dems can make the same argument and move it down the list of approaches to address the problem instead of putting it at the top as Dumya and McCain are doing. I know it takes more than a sounjdbite to make the argument, and soundbites are what generally win elections, but jesus h. christ...
jamie, don't waste your breath explaining the difference between Obama beating Hillary and Tiger beating everyone. It is apparently too nuanced for a true believer to recognize.
"Jamie: You say that about Tiger now, but the same arguments used against Tiger (who does he think he is? Too young. Arrogant without having won yet. Overrated.) where said about him when he first got on the tour. You have the gift of hindsight to know that Tiger fulfilled his potential."
The remark about the fried chicken was made after he won the Masters. You don't get a green jacked without being able to play. Again, you are making comparisons that have nothing to do with the issue.
Now eight years from now if we are fortunate and President Obama does a magnificent job, you can say, "once upon a time they called him inexperienced and arrogant".
If Senator Obama had actually done the job of being senator for one term, I wouldn't be calling him inexperienced now, but he didn't. He set up an exploratory group before he had even been in the Senate a year.
You are proving my points better than I could ever. Your backhanded acknowledgment of Barack's brilliance and intelligence is tempered by saying that none of that matters because he could only have gotten the opportunity because of his skin color. You've just identified why racists think the way they do. It is literally impossible for them to think that the brilliance and intelligence were enough to move him over other, but instead, they have to go to the irrational thought that race was used as an advantage. Thanks for the post. It's a wonderful cut and paste explanation of how many people think about African Americans and their accomplishments.
"Henry Diltz did the photo of Crosby, Stills and Nash." Good grief they look young. I don't think I ever looked so young. I remember that image from "a galaxy far far away".
If Hillary Clinton were not married to Bill Clinton, she would not be senator from New York. If she was not senator, she would not be a presidential candidate. If she was not related to Bill, she would not have access to his financial support network. Works both ways.
John McCain's status as naval hero smoothed his entrance into politics. It weren't his academic standing at Annapolis.
Nelson Mandela was not a professional politician. Hell, he's a jailbird.
"If a died in the wool oilman and arch concerservative like TBoone can make the argument that drilling is not the answer to energy independence,"
What TBoone actually said was drilling is not the only answer, as he is in favor of all methods to produce energy, including drilling. He is really big into solar and wind. TBoone thinks the mid-west is the best place for wind, west coast for solar. I don't see any problem with either one of them, but since the mid west is prone to tornadoes, what happens when one of these wind farm is leveled by a tornado?
Rez -- if you are out there -- thanks for the Tom Bark detective work. My son-in-law stopped by yesterday and was talking about some of the people his musician father had worked with....said his (late) father thought Tom Bark was one of the best. I had never heard of him, and it's sad that he seems lost to music history. I do hope you get that album, and who knows, maybe there is info out there so his legacy can be known.
Doots -- I remember when Henry was coming to town, and I was used to working with some of the so-called greats in music photography -- what a bunch of arrogant pricks! And Henry was SO much more accomplished and better known. Then he showed up and was a sweetheart. You'd have never known that he was considered top of the line.
Oh and by the way Jamie: The accusations of arrogance (on par with Zoeller), are occurring after Obama won the Democratic nomination. Yeah, you don't get the nomination without being a damn good politician.
"Are you saying that he was picked to speak only because the color of his skin? And not for his beliefs? Or his ability to communicate and inspire?"
UB,
There are excellent speakers in the Senate. There are excellent speakers in the Democratic pary. There are several people who share the same ideals and can communicate those ideas in an inspirational way.
I am saying that as a virtual unknown on the national stage, he would not have been given such a prominent role if the party didn't want to use him as an example of the "big tent open to all races" theme. His natural gifts combined with his color are what put him in the forefront of images the party wanted to project.
Obama's speech was very successful and put him on the road to the Presidential campaign. I don't know if you remember the disaster of Clinton's speech in similar circumstances when the party wanted a "Southern" strategy image. He really had to crawl back from that with a successful stretch as head of the Governor's association to get back on the Presidential trail.
Opportunites come about for all sorts of reasons. Sen. Obama has married his natural talents to the unique image of being half black in order to attract the attention necessary to run for president.
Sorry, UB -- Mr. D's post to Jamie is what is cut and paste BS. And it's an example of how people are not encouraged to talk about race. (On this board anyway.)
Mr. D -- go read blackagendareport and get back to me.
what is that guys name in Nashville that is considered the "go to guy" wrt photos? He has a bunch of them up at the Bluebird Cafe if I remember correctly.
there are pricks in all sorts of occupations Patsi.
Nice trailmix video today...why is there a dent in the flask? :)
I am happy to say no commercials in Cal -- or at least not on the teevee I see. I think the candidates are only come here to raise money to spend elsewhere.
Jamie your statement not only discredits Senator Obama but also is a slander against his supporters. What do you think people were walking around saying "hey there is this brilliant guy running for senator in Illinois, and hey he happens to be black, score". If you don't want people to think of you as a bitter old white woman stop talking like one. Maybe you need to really think about why you think this way and constantly keep coming back to this point.
md, not a golfer? The rap on Tiger was that he signed $60M in endorsement contracts before winning a professional tournament - and that lasted for 3 months after he turned pro. He had won more amateur tournaments and had been the youngest and only multiple U.S. Amateur (3 times) winner in history, and the year before he turned pro was the only amateur to make the cut in the Masters, was the leading amateur at the British Open and won the NCAA individual championship. The questions surrounding Tiger when he turned pro were about money and whether the Tiger brand would justify Nike and Titleist's confidence in his abilities, his talent and place on the tour was not questioned by anyone who followed golf. In less than a year he rose to No. 1, silencing the skeptics. While Tiger enjoyed celebrity early in his career, celebrity never made a long putt or won a golf tournament.
There is no comparison between Tiger Woods and Barack Obama in their respective fields.
"Patsi, I can give you this. You've been consistently mean spirited and racist. So there's one for you. " Beautiful ByeBye. This had to come. Can't defend so you bring out the ad hominem insults. What bullshit.
MrD made a valid point. The cut and paste was not the point that I was addressing, but far be it for you to recognize anything but the most negative morsel you can find....and then slam it missing the intent of the post!
I realize that this is talking to a wall, but saying that a condition exists isn't a negative.
There is nothing backhanded about saying that Barack Obama is brilliant, talented, and inspirational just because you acknowledge other conditions exist.
There is nothing racist about saying that given his limited experience, being black got those talents recognized and used sooner than they might have been otherwise.
You know what I really find amusing is how the McCain folks are playing Obama.
Any kind of racial politics is not in Obama's interest. But the Obama camp can't seem to help themselves.
LOL
This morning on GMA they were bringing up OJ Simpson. Stupid.
All the Obama camp should have said was, "Obama was not referring to the McCain campaign but to the inevitable attacks that will be launched by the Republican 527's. That would have made the basic point that Republicans are racist and it stops McCain from getting on national TV and playing the indignation role.
As it is the Obama camp is starting to sound like MD. And if you haven't noticed MD is busy turning friends into enemies. not good politics.
Jamie John Edwards has far less experience in govt and the public sector than Barack Obama, how come that issue never came up for you when discussing Senator Edwards?
""Unique image of being half black"... you just keep digging the hole deeper and deeper."
And you keep on insisting in seeing evil where none exists. How much commentary has there been throughout this whole campaign about whoever won the nomination would be making history. It would either be a black man or a woman. Either condition is a "unique image", a special something that has never existed before in a major political party and both Obama and Clinton used those "unique images" to their advantage.
Perhpas it is poor information management on the part of the democrats but that are getting tagged as obstructing energy independence.
Of course we have to develop alternative energy sources. A big breakthrough would be nice, but doesn't seem to something we can depend on. so mixed energy sources are our future for now. Wind is good, but it doesn't always blow, Sun is good but it doesn't always shine. To me it makes sense to explore for more domestically produced oil. And the arguement that it won't help for ten years seems foolish. Why wait? If we wait we just delay the availability of what is found.
I think electric vehicles are a good idea, but the batteries are a problem and it seems that the electrical grid would have to be expanded dramatically to accomodate recharging millions of vehicles every night.
I was never a supporter of Senator Edwards, but since you ask he didn't run for the Presidency until the end of his first term as a senator. He then ran for VP having been appointed by John Kerry. I do consider him a lightweight in the experience department but like his positions on health care. It is that lack of experience that made me oppose him during the primaries
I sit here next to Calloway irons and King Cobra woods. Very much a golfer. The point was that for many PGA golfers (substitute politicians in Barack's case), Tiger received hype and endorsement money for his amateur career, but hadn't proven himself on the Tour (or Barack as a "state senator" and then US Senator, prior to presidential run). Once Tiger won the Masters, he was subjected to the Zoeller vitriol (which mimics the vitriol Obama receives as the nominee).
Mr. D. I know someone who doesn't like Tiger for that very reason. With all of his endorsements, he doesn't even need to win on Sunday to make a good living. While most golfers on tour don't have the endorsements and they need to play to earn their living at golf.
LOL there are numerous individuals who fall into that category, but who can't bring themselves to acknowledge they made a mistake, or who keep changing the rules of the game to suit their current situation. Everyone must recall that BHO is only half black, but BHO has decided to portray himself as Afro-American. And it is for that reason alone that he has garnered 92% of the Afro-American vote. You have to wonder how many of those Afro-Americans would be supporting him in such large number if BHO would have said, I am a product of a mixed racial marriage, so I do not consider myself to be black or white. Or better yet taken a page out of Tiger Woods book when asked how does it feel to be the first Afro-American to win the Masters. Tiger replied, I do not consider myself to be Afro-American, to do so would show disrespect to my mother who is not Afro-American. It is BHO who keeps reminding us that he is a different color, it is BHO who keeps us informed that he is the first Afro-American to be nominated(?) by the D party to run for POTUS. BHO likes to bring race into the equation when it best suits him. If BHO was ice cream he be selling himself as a pure chocolate milk shake, the truth is he is a black and white shake. BHO has been playing the race all along, and when he thinks no one is paying attention he'll slip that card in from the bottom of the deck.
I prefer to be a dumbass. My Dad has the grouch thing covered for my family. I'm outta here. Gonna go find some dogs and take them for a walk or something.
Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama is calling for a $1,000 "emergency" rebate to consumers to offset soaring energy costs.
Obama says the rebate would be financed with a windfall profits tax on the oil industry.
"This rebate will be enough to offset the increased cost of gas for a working family over the next four months," Obama said in remarks prepared for delivery Friday at a town hall meeting in the crucial swing state of Florida.
Obama had earlier said the rebates should be part of a larger tax relief package. But now he says the slumping economy demands they be put in place immediately.
Obama's remarks coincide with the release of the latest unemployment figures, which show 51,000 jobs lost last month."
MD, Fuzzy Zoeller was more an idiot than a racist - although his advice on the choice of foods that Tiger should avoid for the Champion's dinner menu certainly didn't seem that way. You have actually picked the one thing that IMO is a valid comparison - Zoeller was mimicking Tiger's youth and inexperience, not his race, although his comments were branded racist.. I hope Obama can prove the skeptics wrong as well on that count.
"Once Tiger won the Masters, he was subjected to the Zoeller vitriol"
Let's keep the record straight---To be accurate, Fuzzy Zoeller made his remarks just after finishing his final Masters round, having scored very poorly and before Tiger had actually won the tournament.
But the rest of the story is being excluded, unlike some here, Tiger Woods accepted Fuzzy Zoeller's apology for his remarks.
"At first I was shocked to hear that Fuzzy Zoeller made those unfortunate remarks. His attempt at humor was out of bounds, and I was disappointed by it. But having played golf with Fuzzy, I know he is a jokester, and I have concluded that no personal animosity toward me was intended. ...I know he feels badly about the remarks. We all make mistakes and it's time to move on."
And, yes, I have been known to play a bit of golf, & even been lucky enough to score a hole in one (and not with a Calloway).
Jamie...your comment below
"Even with her charitable, international, and senatorial experience you could make a case that being a woman benefitted Sen. Clinton."
I'd be interested in reading your making this case and not that being a woman actually hurt Hillary,
I don't think you can make this case so "iron my shirts sweetie".
"John Kerry picked Edwards as his running mate because he was white? "
"No I think he picked him because he needed an attractive Southerner to balance the ticket."
Not sure that Kerry picked Edwards, as Kerry always thought Edwards was pretty much a light weight. It is thought the DNC told Kerry he will have Edwards as his VP. Kerry now must be thinking maybe losing was a sign of things to come. What would be the story today had he won and this story about Edwards had surfaced?
I think so much money has been spent and the campaigns have been so long the public is numb to amounts. I don't get why Obama is resisting making joint appearances with McCain. The conventional wisdom is the contrast would work in Obama's favor.
Just for a start, industry types say the ad is wrong: In the Hollywood lexicon, Obama is not a celebrity. He's a rock star. (Note to McCain strategists: That's the difference between Jessica Simpson and Bono.)
KGC: I agree with you on the joint appearances. I think Obama could do really well. (And I have a healthy respect for McCain's talent at public appearances. It's not a slam dunk for either of them. Never underestimate either.)
Obama doesn't want to do to the town hall meetings with McCain because he wants to save the full impact of the contrast till all America is watching, the real debates.
I hope they do appearances beyond debates, which I often find dreary. Town halls are way more interesting, assuming you get a Jim Lehrer type to moderate.
Obama is staying on track with his campaign, and doing what he thinks he has to do to win the GE. I always find it amusing when people question, why one candidate isn't doing what their opponent asks of them.....
McCain is putting out the tackiest ads, almost like local cable ads....Is that the best he can do? I think it is. I can't imagine McCain gang sitting around saying, " this sucks, let's use it."
Definitely true! Usually the ones who were the worst were in from LA...they looked down on any photographer from Nashville and made all kinds of disparaging remarks. Henry Diltz was the opposite. He hung out with some local photogs, admired their work -- treated them with respect. I really liked him for that.
Tom Selleck
Bo Derek
Shannon Doherty
Clint Eastwood
Arnold
Patricia Heaton
Chuck Norris
Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson
Bruce Willis
Heather Locklear
and every jingoistic Pro Wrestler, including the Iron Sheik are Republicans and would take exception to your hateful remark? lol
Country music stars, of course, are less reticent. Brooks & Dunn, Lee Ann Womack and the Gatlin Brothers all support Bush. And a few other celebrities are in Bush's corner, if not exactly speaking out on the President's behalf: Bruce Willis, Kid Rock, Kelsey Grammer, Alice Cooper and Britney Spears.
A few years ago, James Woods told Jay Leno he "loves" Dubya and was proud to have voted for him, and Danny Aiello has also been an unabashed Republican. It wasn't so long ago that Michael Moore's Oscar acceptance speech drew audible boos from some of the Hollywood rank-and-file. But at the moment, the Hollywood chorus of conservatives remains comparatively quiet.
Meanwhile, as the campaign has heated up, several news outlets have attempted to "out" Hollywood Republicans, including Details magazine. In a recent issue, Details named a few celebrities who are admitted conservatives, such as Jessica Simpson and Shannen Doherty, and a few surprises, such as Adam Sandler and Freddie Prinze Jr. Prinze's wife, Sarah Michelle Gellar, has expressed right-wing leanings in the past.
Comments
The campaign is turning into a couple of brats fighting back and forth on a daily basis.
Obama seems to think he needs to quickly respond to every single thing said about him. This is a big mistake. Respond to the big stuff or you just play into the Gop (avoid the issues) strategy.
Posted by: Oregon Democrat | August 1, 2008 6:11 AM
The campaign is turning into a couple of brats fighting back and forth on a daily basis.
Obama seems to think he needs to quickly respond to every single thing said about him. This is a big mistake. Respond to the big stuff or you just play into the Gop (avoid the issues) strategy.
Posted by: Oregon Democrat | August 1, 2008 6:12 AM
The advertising industry must love it. The politics of change is really expensive. Who says there's no such thing as too much money. And besides, Townhalls are way too revealing. No place to hide when you're face to face with the people.
Anthrax scientist commits suicide as FBI closes in
A top U.S. biodefense researcher apparently committed suicide just as the Justice Department was about to file criminal charges against him in the anthrax mailings that traumatized the nation in the weeks following the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, according to a published report.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080801/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/anthrax_scientist_7
Posted by: chloe
| August 1, 2008 6:17 AM
Oregon,
Since I see you''re here this morning, I'd like to thank you for the 'Knucklehead list of rules'. One to live by. Thanks.
Now I must make coffee.
Posted by: chloe
| August 1, 2008 6:19 AM
Chloe..I think I'll make coffee too. I went to the midnight opening of the new Mummy movie. Lots of fun. Brenden Frasier always seems like a big kid having fun in his movies. I was surprised so many people were there..familieswith small kids..surprised me.
The knothead list works for me. There are a lot of interesting people here and I want to concentrate on them. I likie the term, knucklehead" also.
Posted by: Oregon Democrat | August 1, 2008 6:24 AM
"Brenden Frasier always seems like a big kid having fun in his movies."
That's what I love about Brenden Frasier too!.
I was looking forward to 'Swing Vote' with Kevin Costner' this weekend. The previews looked so funny. It's supposed to open today, but I don't see it on the schedule yet.
Posted by: chloe
| August 1, 2008 6:37 AM
Good Morning, Chloe and Oregon Democrat,
Wow. These two, less than fascinating candidates, have spent over 48 million on ads so far. And what has all that moola accomplished?
Posted by: prof marcia
| August 1, 2008 6:37 AM
"And what has all that moola accomplished?"
Good Morning Marcia,
That's a good question. It feels like we're right back where we started. Did you see the developing story on Drudge this morning:
McCain accuses Obama of playing politics with race
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9297USO0&show_article=1
Posted by: chloe
| August 1, 2008 6:43 AM
Hello Marcia
Chloe..Swing Vote was also opening at midnight. Kevin Costner is usually so laid back, I was afraid I would fall asleep at a late showing.
both movies open today with wide distribution.
I watching Morning Joe..I'm not usually up at this time.
The Mike/Joe spat session is not very appealing.
Posted by: Oregon Democrat | August 1, 2008 6:51 AM
Regarding the "Race Card":
Of course, Obama's comment was "The" race card. I'm a Black Democrat and I recognize it clearly. Quick Observations: (a) Why didn't/hasn't the predominately white media recognized and acknowledged it for what it is, was and has been? If the McCain camp had indeed said something so blatant, the outcry would have been deafening. (b) It was a brilliant pre-emptive strike by the McCain campaign to assure that they will not be race-boated by the Obama campaign has was done so effectively against the Clintons. Not only has a marker been officially-for-the-record established as to when race was introduced into the GE campaign but by whom, but another bridge has been offered to the Clinton enthusiasts -- "see, they tried to do it to us, too!".
Posted by: John Hogue | August 1, 2008 6:52 AM
Oregon, I didn't think you were usually up so early.
I just read a review on the NYT and they aren't raving about the movie, but I'm still looking forward to seeing it. They describe it as: This Guy’s for You “Swing Vote” is about life, liberty and the pursuit of Budweiser.
Now I have to feed my critters. They're complaining early today.
Posted by: chloe
| August 1, 2008 6:56 AM
My displeasure with Obama is rooted in:
1. His disrespect to the President Clinton years
2. His dismissive, disrespectful attitude toward Senator Clinton
3. A total lack of humility
We need to win this election. Barack Obama is not a good bet.
Posted by: Oregon Democrat | August 1, 2008 7:03 AM
I better get some sleep..Have a good day everyone.
Posted by: Oregon Democrat | August 1, 2008 7:07 AM
Hillary has apparently asked that she not be nominated for President at Democratic convention.
NY Daily News reports that a source close to Hillary confirms that she won't file a formal request to the convention asking to be nominated for President.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/07/31/2008-07-31_hillary_clinton_asks_not_to_be_nominated.html
Party rules require that a written request to be nominated must be submitted, as well as a petition signed by at least 300 delegates--without her signed request, petitions of support are meaningless.
Although delegates may vote for whomever they want during the roll call, the report is that Hillary (personally & through surrogates) has counseled her 1886 delegates to vote for Obama & that she may release those delegates when she speaks to the convention.
Posted by: Coreen
| August 1, 2008 7:12 AM
What is it with the animals? They had me up at 3:00
Now MSNBC has me singing "You're So Vain"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B7bVD_DkM4
Between Obama and the eclipse of the sun in China, it's all merging into one theme for the morning.
Posted by: Jamie
| August 1, 2008 7:14 AM
Chloe,
Thanks for the link to "McCain Accuses Obama of playing politics with race."
It just seems to me that anytime anyone questions Obama, that this person is
accused of being a racist. As I recall, this is how Camp Obama swiftboated
Hillary.
Posted by: prof marcia
| August 1, 2008 7:18 AM
http://www.slatev.com/player.html?id=1701226987
Posted by: Patsi
| August 1, 2008 7:22 AM
good morning gang....
got a few minutes before I have to pack my car with my inventory.....
Craig.... great video..... love the choo choo train and the whiskey flask on the shelf behind you.....and I bet I know where you got that Ben Franklin mug..... :0)
haven't seen many of the ads..... not bothering to watch any cable news this summer..... I'll get back into it in the fall....
see y'all later....
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| August 1, 2008 7:26 AM
While I do believe that the Obama crowd is playing "The Race Card" now and did it before to Sen. Clinton, I also believe that the McCain folks have the worst possible media advisors.
While Brittney and Paris may be two empty headed, celebritards famous for being famous, you would think the McCain folks would know that if you put two blond females in an anti-Obama ad that the "racist" charges would be the immediate fall out.. Haven't they been paying attention to their viral emails?
Posted by: Jamie
| August 1, 2008 7:31 AM
Oh Patsi, I see you've got your idiot hat on early. Obama simply stated how the McCain campaign was going to define him. And guess what? He's right, just like how dumb the Clinton campaign was when they decided to make the Barack "remember Jesse Jackson won South Carolina" Obama comment. But since you have little understanding about how race works in this country, you obviously don't know what you're talking about. See Obama is smart enough to not get the "you needed that job" white hands treatment that Harvey Gantt received in NC, or the blonde "Call me" bimbo treatment your beloved Harold Ford, Jr. received in Tennessee, or the classic "Willie Horton" treatment that Dukakis received during his campaign. Better to attack than to sit back passively, as you'd like a candidate to do.
Posted by: Mr. Democrat | August 1, 2008 7:35 AM
Craig
Great video spot, and I love the mantle behind you. Now in here, who are the Sharks and who are the Jets? For all the cross fire in the Democratic camps, only Fry Daddy and Ping Pong are on the Republican side of things.
Posted by: Jamie
| August 1, 2008 7:37 AM
Patsi has never worn an idiot hat.
Posted by: prof marcia
| August 1, 2008 7:39 AM
Alpha Omega Obama house has pledged a new sorority sister. Gene Robinson. Looks like Meeker handed over the house paddle to Schuster. No, saying that BO would rather lose a war if it means he can win a campaign doesn’t say that he’s unpatriotic or un-American so much as it says that he is so self-serving that he would make poor choices.
MoJo’s the only one with any common sense in that studio today. BO is incredibly famous without having produced anything yet; that’s the correlation between him, Britney & Paris. Where do they get off saying it’s a juxtaposition of races?
That’s exactly what the BO campaign wants. BO can’t throw a temper tantrum, so he tries to play that card, again. (And to think, I had big hopes for this guy six months ago.) The race card. It’s the temper tantrum of 2008.
However, these are just more distractions. I’m pining for some meat-n-potatoes debates, but all the media serves up is doughy Wonder bread that constipates the political process and has little nutrional value.
This Wal-Mart story is disturbing on so many levels.
“
In recent weeks, thousands of Wal-Mart store managers and department heads have been summoned to mandatory meetings at which the retailer stresses the downside for workers if stores were to be unionized.”
I think unions are just the boogey-man; their real concern is raising of the minimum wage. They also benefit from high gas prices and outsourcing manufacturing jobs which force folks to shop there & run alternative stores out of business. To paraphrase Tennessee Ernie Ford’s song, we’re gonna owe our souls to the company store.
Posted by: blueINdallas | August 1, 2008 7:42 AM
Patsi,
My post was referring to Mr. Democrat's comment.
Posted by: prof marcia
| August 1, 2008 7:42 AM
"It just seems to me that anytime anyone questions Obama, that this person is accused of being a racist. As I recall, this is how Camp Obama swiftboated Hillary."
PM,
Exactly. Even the most obtuse observers are recognizing the pattern.
Posted by: Flatus
| August 1, 2008 7:45 AM
Patsi, You did it again. Made my day with that link. I can't believe they made that Britney tape into an Obama tape. PRICELESS!
"Between Obama and the eclipse of the sun in China, it's all merging into one theme for the morning." Posted by: Jamie
Jamie,
Your 7:14 AM post had me laughing so hard. You have such a great way of putting things.
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/08/the-big-money-throw-down.html#comment-122750
Oregon,
Your new list works for me too. You even put them in the right order.
Good luck Renee. Have fun.
Posted by: chloe
| August 1, 2008 7:47 AM
But if they'd used two young black singers -- or that black airhead on The View -- they'd have been called even more racist. Face it -- anything now is going to be called racist. When trying to give LBJ some credit for Civil Rights legislation became a racist issue, it was all over.
But what surprised me was the effect that Ludicrous song is having. I figured nobody but a few around her (like me) would get PO'd because of the continuing Hillary/bitch theme. But I was talking to a guy who travels and meets a lot of blue collar workers in various cities....last night he told me in the past several days there's been a great deal of talk about this song, and partly because of the McCain/paralyzed line. Obama was smart to quickly disassociate himself with that one.
Posted by: Patsi
| August 1, 2008 7:47 AM
Blue,
I'm with you on the total inanity of this campaign. Unfortunately, they may be serving up what the majority of the American public can understand. A sincere discussion of the issues and how to resolve the myriad problems currently facing the nation would be met with a barrage of remote controls clicking.
Posted by: Jamie
| August 1, 2008 7:48 AM
As though you could tell, Marcia.
Posted by: Mr. Democrat | August 1, 2008 7:51 AM
Patsi
If they were going with the "celebrity/fandom" theme, I would have used something like a screaming fainting crowd of teenyboppers rather than single images.
More than that, the whole series of ads the McCain people have put out have been clumsy, filled with errors, and looking as old fashioned as their candidate.
Posted by: Jamie
| August 1, 2008 7:56 AM
Good Morning all
I knew the race card was coming!Sen. Obama just can't resist it why? Patsi your point on LBJ says it all!
Posted by: tonyb39
| August 1, 2008 8:02 AM
"nutritional" -- and I forgot to attach the link
http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB121755649066303381.html?mod=special_page_campaign2008_leftbox
Posted by: blueINdallas | August 1, 2008 8:03 AM
"series of ads the McCain people have put out have been clumsy, filled with errors, and looking as old fashioned as their candidate. "
Yes -- absolutely. Very bad advertising techniques.
Posted by: Patsi
| August 1, 2008 8:08 AM
Oh, and Mr. D -- I guess criticising Obama for his FISA vote is racist. And when he screws up as president, if anyone questions him it'll be racist. And if the one criticising him is a woman he'll just run in one of his surrogates, like Luricrous, to call her a bitch.
Posted by: Patsi
| August 1, 2008 8:10 AM
More on Germans: Three Hogan's Heroes programs on HDN starting at 8:30 EST. Channel 306 on Directv.
When we were stationed at Ft Sill in '65 there was a nice German lady who lived across the hall from us. All semblance of niceness departed when Hogan's Heroes came on the air.
She and Stinky used to have really interesting conversations using universal hand gestures. They got along well.
Posted by: Flatus
| August 1, 2008 8:10 AM
The yard is beckoning. Argh.
Posted by: Flatus
| August 1, 2008 8:14 AM
Nope Patsi and that's why you have no understanding of race. You simply have a third graders view of race where it's all or nothing. I suggest you get some books on race in order to understand the complexities. And I'll suggest some. But I think you're much more comfortable wallowing in your ignorance about the subject.
Posted by: Mr. Democrat | August 1, 2008 8:15 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5513mXmQbw4
Posted by: patd | August 1, 2008 8:25 AM
"You simply have a third graders view of race where it's all or nothing."
That is funny, MD. Especially coming from a whitebread suburbanite type like you.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| August 1, 2008 8:28 AM
Whitebread! Well, there's a first. I guess this inaccurate description of me explains why your political posts are always so inane.
Posted by: Mr. Democrat | August 1, 2008 8:32 AM
It is what you are MD,
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| August 1, 2008 8:36 AM
Okay Jack.
Posted by: Mr. Democrat | August 1, 2008 8:37 AM
The End of the Dream...
http://www.newsweek.com/id/140060
Posted by: Mr. Democrat | August 1, 2008 8:38 AM
Mr. D,
Saying Patsi has a 3rd graders understanding of anything means you haven't been paying attention. Could it be that you too easily leap to "racism" as a charge where none exists.
It is possible to think someone is inexperienced and unqualified without it having anything to do with race.
Posted by: Jamie
| August 1, 2008 8:39 AM
Nope, not possible.
Posted by: Mr. Democrat | August 1, 2008 8:40 AM
I think Mr. D thinks we're all racists, because he is.
Posted by: chloe
| August 1, 2008 8:44 AM
If anyone loved those B & W photographs just on Morning Joe and has a pot of money burning a hole in their pocket, here is the gallery
http://www.morrisonhotelgallery.com/set/default.aspx?sectionID=31
Posted by: Jamie
| August 1, 2008 8:45 AM
So if someone is white and doughy looking but inexperienced and unqualified, saying that they are inexperienced and unqualified is racist?
Posted by: Jamie
| August 1, 2008 8:46 AM
Why did congress leave town without any meaningful action on energy?
The Elephant in the Room: Democrats impede U.S. on energy
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/opinion/26131984.html
Being against drilling for oil offshore is a LOSER for democrats. When the republicans succeed in trying high energy prices to democratic obstruction they win. Plus, if the democrats change their mind, bingo - flip-flop.
Posted by: Bowmanc
| August 1, 2008 8:47 AM
"88th anniversary of the ratification of the amendment giving the women the right to vote" [newsweek]
is this the ended dream you are referring to, mr. d? you should be very proud of yourself, mr. civil rights guy.
Posted by: patd | August 1, 2008 8:47 AM
John, Good analysis.
Posted by: Boss Tweed | August 1, 2008 8:48 AM
"Nope, not possible"
So how old is MD? 16? That sounds like something a 16yr old would say. In fact all MD/bye bye posts sound like a teenage boy, playing at what he thinks an AA intellectual would sound like.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| August 1, 2008 8:49 AM
The Cost of Oil Subsidies
Unfortunately, a large share of the world’s population is not responding to high energy prices. Across the developing world, governments are subsidizing energy, blunting the incentive to conserve by keeping prices low. They are absorbing the savings made by industrial countries and helping to raise oil prices by stoking demand.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/01/opinion/01fri3.html?_r=1&ref=opinion&oref=slogin
Gotta go face the cold cruel world now.
Have a good day.
Posted by: chloe
| August 1, 2008 8:52 AM
replace trying with linking in my last post.
Time to get a new keyboard, this one doesn't work right.
Posted by: Bowmanc
| August 1, 2008 8:53 AM
"I think Mr. D thinks we're all racists, because he is"
I don't think so, he has picked up a bunch of those old hoary cliches that mediocre Jr college lecturers use. He probably thinks it makes him look cool and intellectual. No real thinking involved.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| August 1, 2008 8:56 AM
Shuster just said that Claire McCaskill is one of the best surrogates Sen. Obama has. My antenna must be on crooked because every time I start liking him, she comes on and it is instantaneous ... Yuck! A possible eight years of listening to that?
Posted by: Jamie
| August 1, 2008 8:58 AM
Jack, if an African American intellectual walked in your house and said, "I'm an African American intellectual", you still wouldn't be able to recognize one.
Chloe, whatever gets you through the night.
Jamie: Stop with the dumb comparisons. There's a narrative that the McCain campaign is building and it's about feeding into the racial biases Americans have about African Americans. Not deserving. Arrogant. Presumptive. Who does he think he is? Americans are not used to African Americans who make no apologies for competing on traditionally 100 percent white turf and beating you. And whatever the field, there's always blowback. Remember when Tiger started winning and Fuzzy Zoeller decided to go over a menu of fried chicken and collard greens? The same is happening during this campaign. But, like always, we triumph over the ignorance.
Posted by: Mr. Democrat | August 1, 2008 8:59 AM
I have met one of the photogs listed on that link Jamie provided. Herman Leonard. This was in Houston and was pre Katrina. He was living in New Orleans at the time. He must be in his late 70's or early 80's now. Very well known jazz musician photographer. All his images were made in the late 50's in NYC when he was working as a advertising photog in the village. He told me that he had a studio that he would turn into a jazz club and he would invite the musicians to his studio in the daytime when they were playing at night so he could make his images. Very nice man.
¡yo soy Horsedooty!
Posted by: yo soy Horsedooty!
| August 1, 2008 9:00 AM
when Schuster finish his rehab? I haven't watched any MSOBC in so long I must have missed his return.
Posted by: Bowmanc
| August 1, 2008 9:00 AM
Posted by: Boss Tweed | August 1, 2008 8:48 AM
Boss Tweed,
Can't shut down without thanking you for your kind words the other day.
Hope to see more of you around here.
bye
Posted by: chloe
| August 1, 2008 9:01 AM
mr. d, feb 5, 2008 was the 138th anniversary of the 15th amendment's ratification, which guaranteed black men the right to vote in 1870. 50 years later the little ladies, black and white, got their chance. is it that you merely want them to wait their turn in all fairness?
Posted by: patd | August 1, 2008 9:01 AM
correction on the time line for Herman Leonard. Photos made as far back as the 1940's.
here is his wikipedia link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Leonard
Posted by: yo soy Horsedooty!
| August 1, 2008 9:05 AM
LOL@MD
looks like I hit the mark.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| August 1, 2008 9:07 AM
" But I think you're much more comfortable wallowing in your ignorance about the subject. "
I'm sure your great wisdom on the subject will enlighten all of us ignorant old racists. Whatta maroon.
Posted by: Patsi
| August 1, 2008 9:08 AM
I love coming here for political discussion you can't get elsewhere. Some of you are museum quality.
Posted by: cowbird girl | August 1, 2008 9:08 AM
"Claire McCaskill "
Agree on her, Jamie....did they ever figure out who murdered her first husband? :)
Posted by: Patsi
| August 1, 2008 9:15 AM
Mr. D
"Not deserving. Arrogant. Presumptive. Who does he think he is? Americans are not used to African Americans who make no apologies for competing on traditionally 100 percent white turf and beating you. And whatever the field, there's always blowback. Remember when Tiger started winning and Fuzzy Zoeller decided to go over a menu of fried chicken and collard greens?"
That is apples and oranges. If Tiger had been a white golfer, he would still be one of the greatest golfers who ever played the game. The Zoeller comment WAS racist and stupid.
If Barack Obama were white with his experience, he wouldn't have gotten the speech at the last convention and he certainly wouldn't have been running for President. In this case being black is actually working in his favor because it brings him to the attention of power brokers who wouldn't have backed him for at least another four to eight years.
This doesn't mean that he can't handle the job. It just means it wouldn't have been offered it in the first place if he had been white. Even with her charitable, international, and senatorial experience you could make a case that being a woman benefitted Sen. Clinton.
Posted by: Jamie
| August 1, 2008 9:16 AM
"I have met one of the photogs listed on that link Jamie provided. Herman Leonard. "
I worked with Henry Diltz a few times when he was photographing country people...another very nice guy, Doots.
Posted by: Patsi
| August 1, 2008 9:18 AM
" Even with her charitable, international, and senatorial experience you could make a case that being a woman benefitted Sen. Clinton."
Absolutely true.
Posted by: Patsi
| August 1, 2008 9:20 AM
I love coming here for political discussion you can't get elsewhere. Some of you are museum quality.
Posted by: cowbird girl
So sweet and true.
Yet some, like Mr. Democrat, are strangely of mausoleum quality.
Posted by: This Boy | August 1, 2008 9:24 AM
Mr. D forgets that most of us remember his comments as "Bye Blah" -- sexist, racist and patently meanspirited. So his umbrage now is a joke.
Posted by: Patsi
| August 1, 2008 9:31 AM
Actually, this WSJ slant is the funniest of all....God 'amighty! I first thought it might be a joke....ala The Onion. But nooooo.
"In a nation in which 66% of the voting-age population is overweight and 32% is obese, could Sen. Obama's skinniness be a liability? Despite his visits to waffle houses, ice-cream parlors and greasy-spoon diners around the country, his slim physique just might have some Americans wondering whether he is truly like them."
Posted by: Patsi
| August 1, 2008 9:33 AM
What a great day! Happy Friday.
Jamie,
what does this mean? "If Barack Obama were white with his experience"
Posted by: unlikely_burrito
| August 1, 2008 9:34 AM
Mornin' all.
Marcia, it may have been before your time here, but just FYI, Mr. Democrat used to go under the moniker Bye Bye Billary, but dropped that to try and be less antagonistic toward Hillary supporters after Obama clinched the nomination. As you can see, the only thing that changed was the name. MD, stupid and blind are two things yoou seem to be familiar with, but misapply to some of the more intelligent and thoughtful posters here regularly. I guess you've been staring into the light too long.
Patsi, you said in your 7:47 comment the same thing I said to Mrs. P this morning while we were watching MoJo pointing out that the McSame campaign has not raised race as an issue thus far, so Obama did instead.
Anyone catch Axelrod trying to defend Obama's comments on MoJo this morning? It was clear that even he wasn't buying what he was trying to sell. Folks, the wheels are starteing to come off the train, and trying to stand on celebrity instead of going head to head with McOldfart is not helping Obama. It's just my opinion, but I attribute the falling lead reflected in the Gallup daily (now down to 1%) to the world tour and the appearance that Obama won't engage McNN directly. Berlin may have been a very gratifying stop for Barack, but it isn't helping him here. Get a grip, agree to debates, and spend your time campaigning in the US - or get used to the sound of President McCain.
Flatus, if you like Hogan's Heroes, and what's not to like - it has become a regular evening feature on TVLand. (Ch. 65 on Time-Warner Cable).
Posted by: pogo
| August 1, 2008 9:35 AM
Mr. D makes valid points sometimes. So does Patsi. So do others. Better to focus on the comment and not who posted.
Read the comments for what is said.
Only way to learn something.
If that is the intent of this blog.
Posted by: anonymous | August 1, 2008 9:36 AM
Patd,
The 15th amendment theoretically gave African Americans the right to vote. However, after Reconstruction, African Americans were effectively disinfranchised. And while white women didn't get the vote until the 20th Century, it could be argued that theoretically, their husbands cast a vote for their interests. Black women couldn't say the same as when the black man lost the vote, the whole black family was unrepresented.
Patsi: I don't hope to enlighten thickheaded people.
Jamie: You say that about Tiger now, but the same arguments used against Tiger (who does he think he is? Too young. Arrogant without having won yet. Overrated.) where said about him when he first got on the tour. You have the gift of hindsight to know that Tiger fulfilled his potential.
And you're using the classic trick of condemning the obvious as being racist and stupid, mainly because it's easy to do right now, but ignoring the contemporary equivalents because that's much harder to do and your interests might be tied to those interests.
And your notion that Barack only spoke at the Dem convention because of his color is as demeaning as saying that he wouldn't have gotten into Harvard without his race. What quantitative analysis do you have that says this is true? And if you make slippery slope accusations like that, then it is fair game to say that without Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton would not have the accomplishments she has now.
Posted by: Mr. Democrat | August 1, 2008 9:37 AM
John McCain's head on young bodies, creepy thing to wake up to!
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| August 1, 2008 9:37 AM
"Henry Diltz"
don't know him but I didn't know Leonard either before I went to that lecture and show.
I am looking forward to attending a photography opening at the Afterimage Gallery tonight over in Dallas. The opening is for a fellow named Robb Kendrick. He has been photographing working cowboys in Texas using an alternative photo method. He is making Tintypes. (the real name is wet plate colloidian) There is only one of an image and no enlargement. should be a good show here is his website pretty cool looking stuff. http://www.robbkendrick.com/
¡yo soy Horsedooty!
Posted by: yo soy Horsedooty!
| August 1, 2008 9:38 AM
Patsi, I can give you this. You've been consistently mean spirited and racist. So there's one for you.
Posted by: Mr. Democrat | August 1, 2008 9:39 AM
Anonymous day...
everyone should post anonymously
"Read the comments for what is said.
Only way to learn something."
Posted by: anonymous | August 1, 2008 9:39 AM
The truth of the matter is that race will play a roll in this election, so why is everyone so afraid to talk about it?
Posted by: unlikely_burrito
| August 1, 2008 9:39 AM
MD, stupid and blind are two things yoou seem to be familiar with, but misapply to some of the more intelligent and thoughtful posters here regularly. I guess you've been staring into the light too long.
Disagree. This is a stupid comment. Throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Expected more of you.
Posted by: anonymous | August 1, 2008 9:40 AM
"It should be even more so with anonymous comments. They shouldn't start off with a credibility rating of, say, 0. It should be more like negative-30."
Posted by: unlikely_burrito
| August 1, 2008 9:42 AM
Doots -- Henry Diltz did the photo of Crosby, Stills and Nash....and maybe more on there. This morning, they said that when he took that photo the group hadn't named themselves. So when they did, the photo order was reversed and people got the names confused at times early on:
http://www.morrisonhotelgallery.com/set/default.aspx?setID=223
Posted by: Patsi
| August 1, 2008 9:44 AM
UB
It was a response to Mr. D. and means exactly what it says. If Barack Obama were a white Senator who had limited Senatorial experience, no international experience, no important legislation on which he led, no real state level experience because of jumping from one position to another etc., then he would not be considered a serious Presidential contender for at least another four to eight years.
He never would have been given that prime time speaking spot four years ago that started him on his Presidential campaign in his very first year in the Senate.
It doesn't take a thing away from his brilliance or capacity to do the job to say, no one would have taken him seriously for several more years if he hadn't been black. Being black got his foot in the door. Now he needs to prove he can do the job.
He is very fortunate that the Republicans are running John McCain who has no business being anywhere near the oval office.
Posted by: Jamie
| August 1, 2008 9:44 AM
Bowman,
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/08/the-big-money-throw-down.html#comment-122788
I may be wrong, but I think there is a winning argument in the drilling issue - couched in the unused leases and lack of development of alternatives. If a died in the wool oilman and arch concerservative like TBoone can make the argument that drilling is not the answer to energy independence, although it is part of the answer, surely the Dems can make the same argument and move it down the list of approaches to address the problem instead of putting it at the top as Dumya and McCain are doing. I know it takes more than a sounjdbite to make the argument, and soundbites are what generally win elections, but jesus h. christ...
jamie, don't waste your breath explaining the difference between Obama beating Hillary and Tiger beating everyone. It is apparently too nuanced for a true believer to recognize.
Posted by: pogo
| August 1, 2008 9:47 AM
Well here is good news, problem is we will probably never know the whole story as it is all grand jury material.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080801/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/anthrax_scientist
Posted by: FryDaddy
| August 1, 2008 9:47 AM
" their husbands cast a vote for their interests."
And that worked for you, huh?
Posted by: Patsi
| August 1, 2008 9:47 AM
Jamie,
In reality, that is something that can't be proven.....how do you "know" he wouldn't have been picked to speak if he was white?
Are you saying that he was picked to speak only because the color of his skin? And not for his beliefs? Or his ability to communicate and inspire?
Posted by: unlikely_burrito
| August 1, 2008 9:48 AM
UB: "The truth of the matter is that race will play a roll in this election, so why is everyone so afraid to talk about it?"
A good and important question.
Posted by: Patsi
| August 1, 2008 9:50 AM
Mr. D
"Jamie: You say that about Tiger now, but the same arguments used against Tiger (who does he think he is? Too young. Arrogant without having won yet. Overrated.) where said about him when he first got on the tour. You have the gift of hindsight to know that Tiger fulfilled his potential."
The remark about the fried chicken was made after he won the Masters. You don't get a green jacked without being able to play. Again, you are making comparisons that have nothing to do with the issue.
Now eight years from now if we are fortunate and President Obama does a magnificent job, you can say, "once upon a time they called him inexperienced and arrogant".
If Senator Obama had actually done the job of being senator for one term, I wouldn't be calling him inexperienced now, but he didn't. He set up an exploratory group before he had even been in the Senate a year.
Posted by: Jamie
| August 1, 2008 9:50 AM
Jamie,
You are proving my points better than I could ever. Your backhanded acknowledgment of Barack's brilliance and intelligence is tempered by saying that none of that matters because he could only have gotten the opportunity because of his skin color. You've just identified why racists think the way they do. It is literally impossible for them to think that the brilliance and intelligence were enough to move him over other, but instead, they have to go to the irrational thought that race was used as an advantage. Thanks for the post. It's a wonderful cut and paste explanation of how many people think about African Americans and their accomplishments.
Posted by: Mr. Democrat | August 1, 2008 9:51 AM
"Henry Diltz did the photo of Crosby, Stills and Nash." Good grief they look young. I don't think I ever looked so young. I remember that image from "a galaxy far far away".
thanks for cluing me in about Henry.
¡yo soy Horsedooty!
Posted by: yo soy Horsedooty!
| August 1, 2008 9:52 AM
If Hillary Clinton were not married to Bill Clinton, she would not be senator from New York. If she was not senator, she would not be a presidential candidate. If she was not related to Bill, she would not have access to his financial support network. Works both ways.
John McCain's status as naval hero smoothed his entrance into politics. It weren't his academic standing at Annapolis.
Nelson Mandela was not a professional politician. Hell, he's a jailbird.
Posted by: anonymous | August 1, 2008 9:52 AM
pogo,
"If a died in the wool oilman and arch concerservative like TBoone can make the argument that drilling is not the answer to energy independence,"
What TBoone actually said was drilling is not the only answer, as he is in favor of all methods to produce energy, including drilling. He is really big into solar and wind. TBoone thinks the mid-west is the best place for wind, west coast for solar. I don't see any problem with either one of them, but since the mid west is prone to tornadoes, what happens when one of these wind farm is leveled by a tornado?
Posted by: FryDaddy
| August 1, 2008 9:54 AM
Rez -- if you are out there -- thanks for the Tom Bark detective work. My son-in-law stopped by yesterday and was talking about some of the people his musician father had worked with....said his (late) father thought Tom Bark was one of the best. I had never heard of him, and it's sad that he seems lost to music history. I do hope you get that album, and who knows, maybe there is info out there so his legacy can be known.
Posted by: Patsi
| August 1, 2008 9:54 AM
MD - well said
Posted by: unlikely_burrito
| August 1, 2008 9:56 AM
Doots -- I remember when Henry was coming to town, and I was used to working with some of the so-called greats in music photography -- what a bunch of arrogant pricks! And Henry was SO much more accomplished and better known. Then he showed up and was a sweetheart. You'd have never known that he was considered top of the line.
Posted by: Patsi
| August 1, 2008 9:58 AM
Oh and by the way Jamie: The accusations of arrogance (on par with Zoeller), are occurring after Obama won the Democratic nomination. Yeah, you don't get the nomination without being a damn good politician.
Posted by: Mr. Democrat | August 1, 2008 9:59 AM
"Are you saying that he was picked to speak only because the color of his skin? And not for his beliefs? Or his ability to communicate and inspire?"
UB,
There are excellent speakers in the Senate. There are excellent speakers in the Democratic pary. There are several people who share the same ideals and can communicate those ideas in an inspirational way.
I am saying that as a virtual unknown on the national stage, he would not have been given such a prominent role if the party didn't want to use him as an example of the "big tent open to all races" theme. His natural gifts combined with his color are what put him in the forefront of images the party wanted to project.
Obama's speech was very successful and put him on the road to the Presidential campaign. I don't know if you remember the disaster of Clinton's speech in similar circumstances when the party wanted a "Southern" strategy image. He really had to crawl back from that with a successful stretch as head of the Governor's association to get back on the Presidential trail.
Opportunites come about for all sorts of reasons. Sen. Obama has married his natural talents to the unique image of being half black in order to attract the attention necessary to run for president.
Posted by: Jamie
| August 1, 2008 10:01 AM
Sorry, UB -- Mr. D's post to Jamie is what is cut and paste BS. And it's an example of how people are not encouraged to talk about race. (On this board anyway.)
Mr. D -- go read blackagendareport and get back to me.
Posted by: Patsi
| August 1, 2008 10:02 AM
Patsi,
what is that guys name in Nashville that is considered the "go to guy" wrt photos? He has a bunch of them up at the Bluebird Cafe if I remember correctly.
there are pricks in all sorts of occupations Patsi.
¡yo soy Horsedooty!
Posted by: yo soy Horsedooty!
| August 1, 2008 10:02 AM
"Unique image of being half black"... you just keep digging the hole deeper and deeper.
Patsi: What? Did you just google "black" "intellectual" and come up with the black agenda report?
Posted by: Mr. Democrat | August 1, 2008 10:08 AM
Nice trailmix video today...why is there a dent in the flask? :)
I am happy to say no commercials in Cal -- or at least not on the teevee I see. I think the candidates are only come here to raise money to spend elsewhere.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker
| August 1, 2008 10:08 AM
Jamie your statement not only discredits Senator Obama but also is a slander against his supporters. What do you think people were walking around saying "hey there is this brilliant guy running for senator in Illinois, and hey he happens to be black, score". If you don't want people to think of you as a bitter old white woman stop talking like one. Maybe you need to really think about why you think this way and constantly keep coming back to this point.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| August 1, 2008 10:08 AM
md, not a golfer? The rap on Tiger was that he signed $60M in endorsement contracts before winning a professional tournament - and that lasted for 3 months after he turned pro. He had won more amateur tournaments and had been the youngest and only multiple U.S. Amateur (3 times) winner in history, and the year before he turned pro was the only amateur to make the cut in the Masters, was the leading amateur at the British Open and won the NCAA individual championship. The questions surrounding Tiger when he turned pro were about money and whether the Tiger brand would justify Nike and Titleist's confidence in his abilities, his talent and place on the tour was not questioned by anyone who followed golf. In less than a year he rose to No. 1, silencing the skeptics. While Tiger enjoyed celebrity early in his career, celebrity never made a long putt or won a golf tournament.
There is no comparison between Tiger Woods and Barack Obama in their respective fields.
"Patsi, I can give you this. You've been consistently mean spirited and racist. So there's one for you. " Beautiful ByeBye. This had to come. Can't defend so you bring out the ad hominem insults. What bullshit.
Posted by: pogo
| August 1, 2008 10:09 AM
MrD made a valid point. The cut and paste was not the point that I was addressing, but far be it for you to recognize anything but the most negative morsel you can find....and then slam it missing the intent of the post!
Posted by: unlikely_burrito
| August 1, 2008 10:09 AM
Mr. D
I realize that this is talking to a wall, but saying that a condition exists isn't a negative.
There is nothing backhanded about saying that Barack Obama is brilliant, talented, and inspirational just because you acknowledge other conditions exist.
There is nothing racist about saying that given his limited experience, being black got those talents recognized and used sooner than they might have been otherwise.
Posted by: Jamie
| August 1, 2008 10:10 AM
blackagendareport? What the hell? What's next accusing all gay people of trying to recruit the youth of America to a live of depravity?
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| August 1, 2008 10:11 AM
Fry, that's what I said. You truncated the sentence.
Posted by: pogo
| August 1, 2008 10:12 AM
You know what I really find amusing is how the McCain folks are playing Obama.
Any kind of racial politics is not in Obama's interest. But the Obama camp can't seem to help themselves.
LOL
This morning on GMA they were bringing up OJ Simpson. Stupid.
All the Obama camp should have said was, "Obama was not referring to the McCain campaign but to the inevitable attacks that will be launched by the Republican 527's. That would have made the basic point that Republicans are racist and it stops McCain from getting on national TV and playing the indignation role.
As it is the Obama camp is starting to sound like MD. And if you haven't noticed MD is busy turning friends into enemies. not good politics.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| August 1, 2008 10:13 AM
2 men arrested on Snoop Doog's tour bus for marijuana possession.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080801/ap_en_mu/people_snoop_dogg_bus;_ylt=AjXO6TVvV9gcmar6vyDv2rlxFb8C
Posted by: Corey
| August 1, 2008 10:15 AM
Jamie John Edwards has far less experience in govt and the public sector than Barack Obama, how come that issue never came up for you when discussing Senator Edwards?
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| August 1, 2008 10:15 AM
Mr. D
""Unique image of being half black"... you just keep digging the hole deeper and deeper."
And you keep on insisting in seeing evil where none exists. How much commentary has there been throughout this whole campaign about whoever won the nomination would be making history. It would either be a black man or a woman. Either condition is a "unique image", a special something that has never existed before in a major political party and both Obama and Clinton used those "unique images" to their advantage.
Posted by: Jamie
| August 1, 2008 10:18 AM
News flash - John Edwards is white.
Posted by: unlikely_burrito
| August 1, 2008 10:20 AM
"I may be wrong, but I think there is a winning argument in the drilling issue - couched in the unused leases and lack of development of alternatives"
Pogo
It could be but I suspect the McCain reaction would be
"OK let's do that we need all options on the table"
then keep hammering away at the "Democrats oppose off shore drilling and want you to have high oil prices."
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| August 1, 2008 10:21 AM
oops forgot the ~~~~~~~
Posted by: unlikely_burrito
| August 1, 2008 10:21 AM
Pogo,
Perhpas it is poor information management on the part of the democrats but that are getting tagged as obstructing energy independence.
Of course we have to develop alternative energy sources. A big breakthrough would be nice, but doesn't seem to something we can depend on. so mixed energy sources are our future for now. Wind is good, but it doesn't always blow, Sun is good but it doesn't always shine. To me it makes sense to explore for more domestically produced oil. And the arguement that it won't help for ten years seems foolish. Why wait? If we wait we just delay the availability of what is found.
I think electric vehicles are a good idea, but the batteries are a problem and it seems that the electrical grid would have to be expanded dramatically to accomodate recharging millions of vehicles every night.
Posted by: Bowmanc
| August 1, 2008 10:22 AM
Brian
I was never a supporter of Senator Edwards, but since you ask he didn't run for the Presidency until the end of his first term as a senator. He then ran for VP having been appointed by John Kerry. I do consider him a lightweight in the experience department but like his positions on health care. It is that lack of experience that made me oppose him during the primaries
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Edwards
Posted by: Jamie
| August 1, 2008 10:25 AM
an explanation of cause is not a justification by reason.
Posted by: sturgeone | August 1, 2008 10:25 AM
I disagree, Bowman. The sun always sheer here at Trail Mix!
Posted by: Corey
| August 1, 2008 10:25 AM
Pogo,
I sit here next to Calloway irons and King Cobra woods. Very much a golfer. The point was that for many PGA golfers (substitute politicians in Barack's case), Tiger received hype and endorsement money for his amateur career, but hadn't proven himself on the Tour (or Barack as a "state senator" and then US Senator, prior to presidential run). Once Tiger won the Masters, he was subjected to the Zoeller vitriol (which mimics the vitriol Obama receives as the nominee).
Posted by: Mr. Democrat | August 1, 2008 10:26 AM
OMG do you think John Kerry picked Edwards as his running mate because he was white?
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| August 1, 2008 10:26 AM
Brian,
"John Kerry picked Edwards as his running mate because he was white? "
No I think he picked him because he needed an attractive Southerner to balance the ticket.
Posted by: Jamie
| August 1, 2008 10:29 AM
Sturge! Couldn't start the dumbass hour without ya! LOL!
Posted by: Corey
| August 1, 2008 10:29 AM
The sun always shines here, I mean.
Posted by: Corey
| August 1, 2008 10:31 AM
Mr. D. I know someone who doesn't like Tiger for that very reason. With all of his endorsements, he doesn't even need to win on Sunday to make a good living. While most golfers on tour don't have the endorsements and they need to play to earn their living at golf.
Posted by: Corey
| August 1, 2008 10:33 AM
Corey......groucho garcians.......it's quite neat to have a niche .......
the world little cares what storms you encountered along the way, but did you bring in the cargo?
Posted by: sturgeone | August 1, 2008 10:36 AM
"brilliance and intelligence"
LOL there are numerous individuals who fall into that category, but who can't bring themselves to acknowledge they made a mistake, or who keep changing the rules of the game to suit their current situation. Everyone must recall that BHO is only half black, but BHO has decided to portray himself as Afro-American. And it is for that reason alone that he has garnered 92% of the Afro-American vote. You have to wonder how many of those Afro-Americans would be supporting him in such large number if BHO would have said, I am a product of a mixed racial marriage, so I do not consider myself to be black or white. Or better yet taken a page out of Tiger Woods book when asked how does it feel to be the first Afro-American to win the Masters. Tiger replied, I do not consider myself to be Afro-American, to do so would show disrespect to my mother who is not Afro-American. It is BHO who keeps reminding us that he is a different color, it is BHO who keeps us informed that he is the first Afro-American to be nominated(?) by the D party to run for POTUS. BHO likes to bring race into the equation when it best suits him. If BHO was ice cream he be selling himself as a pure chocolate milk shake, the truth is he is a black and white shake. BHO has been playing the race all along, and when he thinks no one is paying attention he'll slip that card in from the bottom of the deck.
Posted by: FryDaddy
| August 1, 2008 10:38 AM
I prefer to be a dumbass. My Dad has the grouch thing covered for my family. I'm outta here. Gonna go find some dogs and take them for a walk or something.
Posted by: Corey
| August 1, 2008 10:38 AM
"08-01) 07:05 PDT ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. (AP) --
Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama is calling for a $1,000 "emergency" rebate to consumers to offset soaring energy costs.
Obama says the rebate would be financed with a windfall profits tax on the oil industry.
"This rebate will be enough to offset the increased cost of gas for a working family over the next four months," Obama said in remarks prepared for delivery Friday at a town hall meeting in the crucial swing state of Florida.
Obama had earlier said the rebates should be part of a larger tax relief package. But now he says the slumping economy demands they be put in place immediately.
Obama's remarks coincide with the release of the latest unemployment figures, which show 51,000 jobs lost last month."
yeah but the people most effected don't pay taxes
Posted by: anonymous | August 1, 2008 10:38 AM
MD, Fuzzy Zoeller was more an idiot than a racist - although his advice on the choice of foods that Tiger should avoid for the Champion's dinner menu certainly didn't seem that way. You have actually picked the one thing that IMO is a valid comparison - Zoeller was mimicking Tiger's youth and inexperience, not his race, although his comments were branded racist.. I hope Obama can prove the skeptics wrong as well on that count.
Posted by: pogo
| August 1, 2008 10:41 AM
Sen. Obama has married his natural talents to the unique image of being half black in order to attract the attention necessary to run for president.
Hillary Clinton just plain married. Granted, she's a policy wonk.
But competent executive? Surrounding herself with the best advisors? Were you around for her primary campaign?
Give it up Jamie. You are better than this sentiment.
Posted by: anonymous | August 1, 2008 10:42 AM
Bowman, nail, head.
Posted by: pogo
| August 1, 2008 10:43 AM
I didnt mean grouch......i meant groucho as in mucho gracias......lol.......or like mucus garcias......
hasta lumbago....
Posted by: sturgeone | August 1, 2008 10:43 AM
There are none so blind....
Posted by: cowbird girl | August 1, 2008 10:45 AM
None are so fined as those who do not flee.
the sayings of Punbad the Railer.
Posted by: sturgeone | August 1, 2008 10:47 AM
Corey,
No, it is the wind that always blows around here.
Sometimes a hot wind, sometimes an ill wind, and sometimes, unfortunately, a smelly broken wind.
I like like the cool breeze of the early morning.
Posted by: Bowmanc
| August 1, 2008 10:48 AM
"Once Tiger won the Masters, he was subjected to the Zoeller vitriol"
Let's keep the record straight---To be accurate, Fuzzy Zoeller made his remarks just after finishing his final Masters round, having scored very poorly and before Tiger had actually won the tournament.
But the rest of the story is being excluded, unlike some here, Tiger Woods accepted Fuzzy Zoeller's apology for his remarks.
"At first I was shocked to hear that Fuzzy Zoeller made those unfortunate remarks. His attempt at humor was out of bounds, and I was disappointed by it. But having played golf with Fuzzy, I know he is a jokester, and I have concluded that no personal animosity toward me was intended. ...I know he feels badly about the remarks. We all make mistakes and it's time to move on."
And, yes, I have been known to play a bit of golf, & even been lucky enough to score a hole in one (and not with a Calloway).
Posted by: Coreen
| August 1, 2008 10:48 AM
And if you haven't noticed MD is busy turning friends into enemies.
Do you have no skills in this department? Is everyone equally a "friend" to you? To Patsi?
Posted by: Jack's friend | August 1, 2008 10:48 AM
acutally full title:
The Auto Guest Book, Being the Maxims of Punbad the Railer Ga Raja of the Punjob, Vice-Roysterer of Notsopoor.
Posted by: sturgeone | August 1, 2008 10:51 AM
Jamie...your comment below
"Even with her charitable, international, and senatorial experience you could make a case that being a woman benefitted Sen. Clinton."
I'd be interested in reading your making this case and not that being a woman actually hurt Hillary,
I don't think you can make this case so "iron my shirts sweetie".
Posted by: Boss Tweed | August 1, 2008 10:53 AM
jamie,
"John Kerry picked Edwards as his running mate because he was white? "
"No I think he picked him because he needed an attractive Southerner to balance the ticket."
Not sure that Kerry picked Edwards, as Kerry always thought Edwards was pretty much a light weight. It is thought the DNC told Kerry he will have Edwards as his VP. Kerry now must be thinking maybe losing was a sign of things to come. What would be the story today had he won and this story about Edwards had surfaced?
Posted by: FryDaddy
| August 1, 2008 10:54 AM
I think so much money has been spent and the campaigns have been so long the public is numb to amounts. I don't get why Obama is resisting making joint appearances with McCain. The conventional wisdom is the contrast would work in Obama's favor.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker
| August 1, 2008 10:57 AM
I don't think that being a woman hurt Hillary Clinton this primary. I think it helped her.
Being Hillary Clinton was the problem. She's polarizing.
Posted by: dog's eye view | August 1, 2008 10:58 AM
John McCain ad irritates many in Hollywood
Just for a start, industry types say the ad is wrong: In the Hollywood lexicon, Obama is not a celebrity. He's a rock star. (Note to McCain strategists: That's the difference between Jessica Simpson and Bono.)
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-et-cause1-2008aug01,0,4172463.story
Posted by: unlikely_burrito
| August 1, 2008 11:00 AM
KGC: I agree with you on the joint appearances. I think Obama could do really well. (And I have a healthy respect for McCain's talent at public appearances. It's not a slam dunk for either of them. Never underestimate either.)
Posted by: dog's eye view | August 1, 2008 11:00 AM
"John McCain ad irritates many in Hollywood"
Well that is good news!
Posted by: FryDaddy
| August 1, 2008 11:02 AM
Obama doesn't want to do to the town hall meetings with McCain because he wants to save the full impact of the contrast till all America is watching, the real debates.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| August 1, 2008 11:03 AM
I hope they do appearances beyond debates, which I often find dreary. Town halls are way more interesting, assuming you get a Jim Lehrer type to moderate.
Posted by: dog's eye view | August 1, 2008 11:06 AM
Time to pick-up wife at the airport.
Have a great weekend.
Posted by: FryDaddy
| August 1, 2008 11:08 AM
Obama is staying on track with his campaign, and doing what he thinks he has to do to win the GE. I always find it amusing when people question, why one candidate isn't doing what their opponent asks of them.....
McCain is putting out the tackiest ads, almost like local cable ads....Is that the best he can do? I think it is. I can't imagine McCain gang sitting around saying, " this sucks, let's use it."
Posted by: unlikely_burrito
| August 1, 2008 11:08 AM
"there are pricks in all sorts of occupations"
Definitely true! Usually the ones who were the worst were in from LA...they looked down on any photographer from Nashville and made all kinds of disparaging remarks. Henry Diltz was the opposite. He hung out with some local photogs, admired their work -- treated them with respect. I really liked him for that.
Posted by: Patsi
| August 1, 2008 11:09 AM
this will be good I bet -
A soundtrack CD with songs dedicated to Obama is in the works (think of all that musical hope available for download to your iPod.)
Posted by: unlikely_burrito
| August 1, 2008 11:11 AM
FryDaddy,
You do realize the like of ...
Tom Selleck
Bo Derek
Shannon Doherty
Clint Eastwood
Arnold
Patricia Heaton
Chuck Norris
Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson
Bruce Willis
Heather Locklear
and every jingoistic Pro Wrestler, including the Iron Sheik are Republicans and would take exception to your hateful remark? lol
Posted by: Bear
| August 1, 2008 11:12 AM
http://webcenters.netscape.compuserve.com/celebrity/becksmith.jsp?p=ce_bsf_143
Country music stars, of course, are less reticent. Brooks & Dunn, Lee Ann Womack and the Gatlin Brothers all support Bush. And a few other celebrities are in Bush's corner, if not exactly speaking out on the President's behalf: Bruce Willis, Kid Rock, Kelsey Grammer, Alice Cooper and Britney Spears.
A few years ago, James Woods told Jay Leno he "loves" Dubya and was proud to have voted for him, and Danny Aiello has also been an unabashed Republican. It wasn't so long ago that Michael Moore's Oscar acceptance speech drew audible boos from some of the Hollywood rank-and-file. But at the moment, the Hollywood chorus of conservatives remains comparatively quiet.
Meanwhile, as the campaign has heated up, several news outlets have attempted to "out" Hollywood Republicans, including Details magazine. In a recent issue, Details named a few celebrities who are admitted conservatives, such as Jessica Simpson and Shannen Doherty, and a few surprises, such as Adam Sandler and Freddie Prinze Jr. Prinze's wife, Sarah Michelle Gellar, has expressed right-wing leanings in the past.
Posted by: Bear
| August 1, 2008 11:13 AM
I hope Rick Davis doesn't protest the fact that thankfully, these guys don't look like the Gatlin Brothers..
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