Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

Sounds like summer beach reading. Myself, I am more concerned that I will be swarmed by seagulls in a week or two when I head to the Jersey Shore. It is a good thing gas prices are dropping other wise I will be begging for table scraps in Stone Harbor.

"sharks weren't the scariest predator"

Not as long as we have Congress.

Jack,
I had a long post for you as the new thread hit. inre; the tire pressure article.

Posted by: Rezdog Author Profile Page | August 5, 2008 2:24 PM

Sorry for re-hashing the patheric here. Yesterday in Lansing they interviewed two women who were former Clinton supporters. They said they fully supported Obama now, but they wished he would pick Clinton for his running mate. I have also heard people say that they are waiting to see who Obama picks as his running mate before making a final decision on if they are gonna vote for him.

Sorry Jack here is the link

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/08/falling-gas-prices-spell-relie.html#comment-124502

When they speak of 'off-shore' drilling, how close to shoe are we talking? One only needs to go a couple of miles out to sea before getting out of view from the beach; why would that effect recreation? If the floor was too deep at that distance, maybe they could angle-drill? I'm no oil-man, obviously.

Rez
Caught it.

"I don't know if you think maintaining proper tire inflation and having regular engine service will increase performance and mileage. "

No argument on that point.

But, is that an acceptable substitute for offshore drilling
As Obama implied in his tossed off statement.
The article said it did but gave no hard numbers.

Jack

Corey

This isn't coming just from me. I'm hearing a lot of that as well. They aren't saying they will vote against him. There isn't any love for the Republicans (That's the PUMA percentage), but for a lot of people it is the difference between voting for him or not voting at all.

They are looking at it as a way to measure his judgement and see not picking Clinton as a bad mark against that judgement.

Maddow last night was railing on why would they resent another woman and that there were a lot of accomplished women who could do the job. What she seemed to dismiss was that these people can't understand why anyone who wanted their approval would take an unknown to go with another unknown instead of an already proven asset.

dog eye view,

Our was The Rise of Barak Obama, it came out a few weeks ago. Feedback is that it is selling very poorly. Reprints have been put on hold, We literally have thousands of pounds of paper in our warehouse that were allocated to print this title in Aug & Sept. NOt going to happen. Original print run was 75, 000..

The book you are talking about we did not print. Rumor has it the original press run is 250,000 which is a huge run these days. This is the book critical of Obama, the one we printed was a celebrity picture book all in B&W no full color pictures. Probably a bad move to print it as monochrome.

Time to bring back that wonderful movie, Giant,

Although over fifty plus years, the movie touched on oil, sexism and racism.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049261/

Everything old is now new....unfortunately.

Champ

They have about 5 different oil rig platforms with different drilling devices depending on depth and probably other factors. Different leg types for anchoring. There are roughly 3500 of them in the gulf of Mexico alone.

Julie

champ
I saw on one of the DOE web sites that the states control out to 3 miles, from then on it was controled by the federal government

From
http://www.eia.doe.gov/kids/energyfacts/sources/non-renewable/offshore.html
"Wells have been drilled in 10,000 feet of water using these floating rigs. "

I'm impressed

Jack

Jamie, my best friend and I discussed that last week. A lot of people have talked about how they are unsure of whether or not they will vote for Obama. However, most all of them said they will not vote for McCain.

IMO, all this "tire inflation & engine maintenance" is somewhat of a red herring, for lack of a better metaphor, in that although it can make some appreciable difference, the effects of such tactics are dwarfed by the savings resulting form eliminating as much local driving as possible. Starting and stopping guzzles gas, as you all know. My truck gets maybe 10 mpg city, which is awful, but on the highway it's not too bad, maybe around 25 mpg. I'm saving about $40 a week by using my bicycle as much as possible, and I have also developed a calf-muscle that I never realized existed. I realize cycling isn't appropriate for all, but anything one can do to reduce local driving helps a lot.

Some guy on here claimed a 29-33 mpg increase (14%) which is phenomenal, but I haven't heard of that much success from other sources. Over-inflating your tires is dangerous, also.

Love Giant. That is one of those watch over and over movies and probably one of the best acting jobs ever for Taylor and Hudson. Mercedes McCambridge was wonderful and James Dean was great even if he looked a little phony towards the end as the "old" Jett.

Jamie...Sal Mineo, too!

Repost - I didn't know.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/08/falling-gas-prices-spell-relie.html#comment-124427

jamie, all of that has merit, but those are not the concerns that are at issue between the wind farmers and the fishermen. The New England commercial fisheries have been fishing the Grand Banks and Georges Banks for more than a century - and they want to keep fishing them and will fight to do so. That's where the issue of over fishing probably is the keenest, but that's not where the windfarms will be for the most part - those will be closer in, in shallower waters, and will affect a smaller portion of the fishing fleet that operate smaller boats. The ones at issue are proposed for Horseshoe Shoal in Nantucket Sound and should in part at least be within sight of Cape Cod, Nantucket and Martha's Vineyard - which are the rough boundaries of the area at issue, which if you'll recall was an issue for Ted Kennedy that led to accusations of hypocrisy on the part of the Kennedy family because of his apparent NIMBY stance. That area is fished by medium sized trawlers for finfish, flukes and squid, and the efforts of the fishermen are to have appropriate mitigation measures put in place to allow for continued, albeit reduced, fishing of the area. Overfishing is a different issue, that will not be addressed directly as part of this issue. These areas have limits in place as it is, and the development of the wind farms will reduce fishing in the area by necessity.

And it's a long read, but the fishing-wind farm report I linked on theprior thread is worth the time, and I think you'd enjoy it.

Like I said before; If I can't see it from the beach, if it's not subsidized, if it is not causing undue damage to ecosystems, and is providing work for American citizens, I don't have a problem with off-shore drilling.

I'll also agree with the argument that it won't affect price via supply, either. There is plenty of supply available for immediate use, it is just tightly controlled, while also being affected by lack of refinery capability and logistics(transport). If the prospect of more off-shore rigs is unpleasant, I think the prospect of more refineries is even more so, as they blow up all the time and are extremely ugly and polluting. Supposedly, we need more of them, though. Maybe I should consult with the "Great T. Boone".

Champ...are you consuming more calories by cycling more? It takes a lot of a gasoline to grow a crop and to me, fuel is fuel. Although the health benefits (if you can stay away from polluted air from the roadways) exist, there is a fuel/energy cost to everything we do.

On a small scale, it may work, but we need bigger fixes for the big way we live. On another day on this blog, I posted about creating a super monorail system(yep, like Homer Simpson) along the existing interstate system for commuters and freight. Overpasses could easily be adapted for stations for commuters or docks for freight.

Doris Kearns Goodwin just on talking about the need for rivals to come together to create unity for the good of the nation. She must have read her own book. :-)

Jack,

I concluded by agreeing that these efforts are not the sloution to our energy woes nor the end of oil importing, but just help. By the same token Obama's comments were of the same vein. One line from an 8000 word speech. Hardly what McLiar's ad suggests.

Afternoon economic report - best in weeks.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/06/business/worldbusiness/06stox.html?hp

Champ

The big problem I have with off shore is really long term. I don't want the stuff being used for anything. The sooner we get away from fossil fuels the better. The only way to do that is to put the funds into research and development of alternatives for all future use so that what fossil fuels are currently in production become sufficient to meet the demand without drilling for more.

McCain is gonna outspend Obama on Olympic ads:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080805/tv_nm/olympics_mccain_dc;_ylt=AhvSH8pzLHFE0v7eZCIL.8NxFb8C

blondie, not to answer for champ, but yes. However, back in the 70s, Bicycling magazine did a study and found that of all means of transportation available then, whether individual or mass transit, the bicycle was the most fuel efficient of all, including walking.

Thanks Pogo

I'll read it. This also goes to the pollution problem since the fish that would normally be very good for us are being polluted into becoming dangerous food.

Jack,

PS : and I think that was the intent of the article not a Petro News digest piece.

A valid argument Wino (and I'm reluctant to use your name because I feel like I'm insulting you), but my concern is primarily the money coming out of my wallet, as I am not working too much as of late and planning to piss away a significant portion of my savings in the near future. To answer your question, no, I am not eating anymore than I did before I became a proponent of pedal-power (pow!), but I am more tired. I wouldn't be surprised if I actually eat less (I'm not a calorie counter) because i found that increased physical activity and a healthy diet makes the prospect of filling my gullet with junk pretty unappealing. I have developed a recent affinity for Snickers bars, however. They are like rocket fuel on an empty stomach.

Thanks, Pogo for the cycling and economic link.

Seems to me that Maslow's pyramid is topling for most Americans. Food and shelter are far more important now than self actualization!

"They (GOP Reps) are saying their protest to hold a vote on an energy package that includes offshore drilling has led to lower gas prices."

Jack,

There you go we have the solution to our high gas prices!

Champ...you are not insulting me by calling me a blonde or a wino...I have to work hard to achieve both monikers.

I concluded by agreeing that these efforts are not the sloution to our energy woes nor the end of oil importing, but just help. By the same token Obama's comments were of the same vein. One line from an 8000 word speech. Hardly what McLiar's ad suggests.

Posted by: Rezdog | August 5, 2008 2:59 PM

I don't want to make a big deal out of it, Rez, and this is just a suggestion, but:

The above post works well on it's own, and may be a valid argument, but then you discredit it by using invectives at the end and call into question your motivation. Just say 'McCain". I'm not a McCain supporter, and I'm not offended by slanderous derivations of his surname; I just think your doing yourself and your positions a disservice by using that tone, when your arguments are otherwise well-composed.

Snickers....now that is eating 'high' on the food chain!

Damnit, Wino! I have a thing for blondes, but I am not familiar enough with hair-styling practices to know when I'm getting duped, much to my chagrin. It's not fair.

Champ...got to love a man who can get duped by a blonde. Worked for the Kennedys.

Looks like the current figures are consistent with what I recall from the Bicycling article in the 70s. The bike wins hands down - almost 3 times as efficient as walking and most powered transportation modes aren't even in the ballpark. ~~~~Of course, carrying groceries can be problematic, and luggage is a whole different problem, to say nothing of the practical limit of about 15 m.p.h. for recreational level cyclists.(Just my wag, based on personal experience). And walking around in cycling clothing and shoes is no day in the park. ~~~~

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_efficiency_in_transportation

Pogo...is Lance Armstrong a repug or dem?

BW for most of the people I know Self Actualization was never a goal. The better off people stopped at self indugence. The poorer ones weren't so worried about gas in the car as much as which seat was going to fall through the rusty floor.

Next up is self reliance. Do not depend on your government to take care of you. If you do, you give up your freedom.

Champ,

Thx for the advice, but most here no my feelings and this really isn't about winning friends and influencing people. Right, no big deal.

Lance Armstrong is a Repug.

Snickers - the perfect food. The perfect kayaker's lunch (or at least the perfect lunch for this kayer) used to be 3 Snickers bars and a Coke. Of course that was 20 years and 20 pounds ago.

Bowmanc...I appreciate your feedback. It is true that the housing crisis and the fuel crisis have dragged many down to the level of basics. It has worked for many a revolution when the masses can't get off the first rung.

Blondie, Corey's probably right - I know Lance had McCain as a guest for one of his recent Livestrong events.

btw, I find that the work involved in being a wino to be quite easy and satisfying - as to being a blond - it's been so long since I was a tow-headed kid (or had enough hair to care what color it is) I wouldn't know.

"this really isn't about winning friends and influencing people."

Then why bother?

Al this repug baloney is the same thing in which all the Hannity-type devotees engage. You guys probably hate all those dorks and their petty argumentative tactics, right? Not all Republicans are greedy and heartless, just like all Democrats are not delusional and guilt-ridden. It's very grating from both angles, and just alienates people. It shows that those who use such language are less interested in public welfare and truth, and more interested in vendetta-fulfillment and demagoguery.

That's what was so puzzling about Sheryl Crow dating Lance Armstrong. I didn't think their view on politics was the same. He was tight with Bush and she was very anti-Bush. Supposedly, Lance and GWB got bashed quite a bit on her current album that's out.

Ah, Pogo...you, too, are a blonde wino. Comrades in color and drink.

How did Sheryl Crow and Lance Armstrong ever get together?

well, ex blonde anyway. wino - well, that's current. lol

Tow-headedness beats toe-headedness anyday, count your blessings, pogo.

And I refuse to wear tights. Bicycling-specific apparel has got to be the most atrocious of all, and I will never participate. Never!

blondie,

lance and cheryl

http://marriage.about.com/cs/celebritymarriages/a/lancekristin.htm

I'm guessing like most men, little Lance Armstrong is a lot less political than his superior. That's about as inoffensive as I am able to state that.

Corey...Peace be Upon Us.

my new, cuddly li'l pupppp-eeeee........awwww!

http://www.dogear.org/blogs/birnbaumm/wp-content/uploads/chuck_pitbull.jpg

Didn't Ms. Crow and Larry David's soon-to-be ex (if not already) head to DC on the eco bus?

Good looking dog, Dexter.

Nice coat on that dog, Dex. Noticed you AKC grip there, too. What's a piece of meat set a guy like you back? 1 'G'?

Yeah, Sheryl Crow was very into supporting enviromental causes as well, if I remember right.

champ, me too, at least not so's you'd notice. I wear shorts over the cycling shorts - I do love the gel pad and I'm not giving it up. On the odd ride with my cycling buds, I'll wear the cycling shorts without the other shorts, but those rides come fewer and farther between.

Lance Armstrong named after Lance Rentzel...wow, Pogo, that made me feel old. I remember Lance Rentzel!

blondie, yep, Laurie David and Sheryl did do an eco tour.

Sturdy looking dog, Dex? Got a name yet?

Conforming to the herd, eh po? I won't fault you for it, at least in that instance. At least you are aware of bike shorts inherent dorkiness.

Off to work for me....thanks for an enjoyable day.

Named for Lance Rentzel? Pre indecent exposure conviction, thank goodness.

And yes, I'm very aware of the dorkiness of cycling shorts - particularly on old farts like me. Old habits die hard, but thank god they do die.

Ah, the principle of impermanence...

Yup, right behind you, BW. Have a good day, all those who refuse to engage in slander and demagoguery. The rest of you can ** **** **********.

Impermanence - the only human constant.

champ, BW, wait up.

I am always amazed to see a cycling shirt stretched across a large gut. What are these people thinking? Dam I look good? or Dam I look like Homer Simpson but I don't care.

True story, I was at a rest area on the Mass Pike and there was a guy in line at the McDonald's that was an EXACT double for Homer Simpson. My son, who was about seven at the time, was pulling on my shorts and going DAD, There's Homer Simpson! My wife is whispering DO NOT STARE! STOP IT YOU TWO. That poor guy was dead ringer for Homer.

Bowman, ditto. I don't really have much of a gut - and it's smaller than it was 2 months ago - but I still don't wear the cycling jersey I've had for 20 sumpin' years - somehow it just seems silly. Now I do know guys that do deck out head to toe, and some of them have that Homer Simpson physique. I have no idea what they're thinking, but if they're thinking those shirts make them either look good or make them better cyclists, I'd suggest they ditch the shirts, lose the guts and spend more time on the bikes. Now I really have to go.

Back to oil on the beaches.

Remember after the war when we went down to Florida. There were occasional tar balls from the tankers that the Germans sank just off our coast.

But, the reefs were wonderfully alive.

I've gotten back on my bike and have been going for early morning rides 5:15 AM start. I have never bought any fancy cycling gear. Black gym shorts & a white t-shirt. Now my brother , that's adifferent story, but then again he lives in California. Here is a link to his biking team. These people do serious rides like the Death Ride throught the Sierra Nevada

http://teammudge.org/

DAD, There's Homer Simpson! My wife is whispering DO NOT STARE! STOP IT YOU TWO. That poor guy was dead ringer for Homer.

Posted by: Bowmanc | August 5, 2008 4:13 PM

LOL. Kids are the best.

"I posted about creating a super monorail system(yep, like Homer Simpson) along the existing interstate system for commuters and freight. Overpasses could easily be adapted for stations for commuters or docks for freight."
totally agree, blonde wino. tho't about that myself on a recent road trip. some kind of piggy-back system could be rigged for express routes carrying your electric town car between hubs.

my dog picture was my little joke for the pit-bull theme of today on this thread...it was just a Google Image random photo---I detest the breeding of pit bulls and animal cruelty in general.
Did yas see what happened at UC Santa Cruz?
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-attacks5-2008aug05,0,6279923.story

The authorities say it is terrorism, and it's hard to applaud bombings, but the researchers who use animals so cruelly must be stopped by any means necessary.
Small measures help, for example, Tony LaRussa , Manager, St. Louis Cardinals, bans all Coca-Cola products from the locker room at the St. Looie ballpark because Coke sponsors animal lab experimentation. LaRussa is a strict animal-rights advocate, as am I.
I have two for-real dogs...a ten-year old Lab Retreiver named P-Dogg , and a seven year-old JRTerrier names Noellie.

Patsi,

I replied to your post to me on the last thread. Naturally, it's your choice whether you read it or not.

Okay Karo, I'll just nuse your own words back to you:

"Almost everything you say is so polarizing"

"but the researchers who use animals so cruelly must be stopped by any means necessary.

Bullshit !
It is terrorism and I hope they catch the bastards and lock them up and throw away the key.

Jack

Speaking of gas prices.

Dear Wife just forwarded a campus-wide alert regarding gas theft (siphoning). Apparently, several reports in recent days.
I assume there's an up tick of these incidents nationwide. Washington is in the top 5 of highest pump averages due to our State gas tax.

BUZZ KILLERS!!! Denver bans poop buckets at Convention

http://www.nypost.com/seven/08052008/news/nationalnews/denver_bans_buckets_of_poop_at_dnc_prote_123140.htm

If you outlaw poop buckets......only outlaws will have poop buckets.....

I was so taken by this post, I'm linking the story so I can quote it.

"I'm so old I remember when they had mercury in thermometers. If you broke one the mercury would spill out. You could watch it roll around in little balls. If you touched it it smushed and reformed. You couldn't catch it and you couldn't make it into a nice solid little mass you could pick up. It was pretty and shiny and elusive. That's Obama to a lot of people. McCain is more like the sidewalk we dumped the mercury on. Just there. Not very interesting or exciting, but solid. Flip flops aside, and his aren't any more egregious than Obama's - after all that's what politicians do- McCain comes across to a lot of people as a known quantity while Obama comes across as elusive. When you're standing on a precipice it feels safer to back up onto the solid ground rather than throw caution to the wind and jump. And that's probably why the numbers are so close and why the election will be a squeaker." GLaB
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alex-castellanos/the-molten-core-of-barack_b_116904.html

lol
Buckets of poop, now there is quality political speech.

and ya wonder why there has only been one democratic prez elected in the last 30 years and he had to have help from a third party.

Jack

Well, that is just a crock of s**t. No poop buckets, doesn't one of the amendments make this protected speech?

This is Un-American, This Will Not Stand, Dude!

reckon that ban would cover poop caulk guns?

This is still experimental and has potential uses for autistic or brain injured, but for now it is just kind of

awwwwwwwwwwwww

http://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=88307&feedType=VideoRSS&feedName=Technology&rpc=23&videoChannel=6&sp=true

Rasmussen Daily

44-44

With Leaners

McCain leads 47-46

patd,
Thanks for the brazile rove link (9:13am). I'm just now getting a chance to check it out. I appreciate it.

Interesting tidbit from Pelosi - Convention schedules "can be changed". Seems Hillary as VP doesn't quite have a stake through its heart.

http://blogs.reuters.com/trail08/2008/08/05/pelosi-keeps-hillarys-vp-embers-glowing/

Who could forget Barbarella?
Posted by: Blonde wino August 5, 2008 1:45 pm

Not me Blonde Lol. That was definitely a low point for Jane. But then, there were so many low points for women back then. Things have really improved.

nite

isnt huffpo obama central? It used to be, wha' hoppen?

it aint over till the large-appearing gender-neutral android sings.........

seems like this political vote contest has devolved into a kind of "Who spends the most.....and who spends it most strategically".......weird way to win elections.....

Lets go back to the olden days when silent cal set on his front porch waiting for the election. While all the state and city political bosses bought and traded enough votes to get him elected.

Democracy is always weird
Jack

Why is there -- or at least seems to be -- a general dis-respect for and dismissal of Rasmussen Polls?

I Wanna Grow Up To Be A Politician

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_r-rc1k-cA

Aren't they the internet polls? Or were in 2006. If so they were very unreliable.

Jack

I know nothing about Rasmussin Polls, but this is on their website (obviously they're going to hype themselves):

Rasmussen Reports’ Election 2006 coverage has been praised for its accuracy and reliability. Michael Barone, Senior Writer for U.S. News & World Report and co-author of The Almanac of American Politics, mentions, “One clear lesson from the Republican victory of 2004 and the Democratic victory of 2006 is that the best place to look for polls that are spot on is RasmussenReports.com." And University of Virginia Professor Larry Sabato states, “In election campaigns, I’ve learned to look for the Rasmussen results. In my experience, they are right on the money. There is no question Rasmussen produces some of the most accurate and reliable polls in the country today.”

Rasmussen Reports was also the nation's most accurate polling firm during the 2004 Presidential election and the only one to project both Bush and Kerry's vote total within half a percentage point of the actual outcome.

During both Election 2004 and Election 2006, RasmussenReports.com was the top-ranked public opinion research site on the web. We had twice as many visitors as our nearest competitor and nearly as many as all competitors combined.

I think the cell phone factor and young vote is one of the primary reasons the polls make it look like a dead heat. They aren't getting a true picture.

Wow! Good Feedback. Thanks.

This article in Newsweek is a heartbreaker. And for people wanting to get involved, there's a link at the end for donations. Since I just sent Hillary $50 more bucks for her campaign debt, I felt obligated to at least match it here.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/150846/page/1

Craig - every time you post two articles on the same day, I get SO confused!!!!!

Fair notice------- The following is an unsually snarky posting for me. I think I tend to not make outrageous statements, but this situation hits way too close for me to keep my yap shut. I'm sure what I say will offend some of you, but then those same people have irritated me many times before. I want to make sure you know that these are only my opinions and I have a right to them, and I have respected your rights to opinions I didn't particularly care for.

I am ecstatic re the story of KO and Dana Milbank! For one thing, I think there was nothing wrong with Milbank's use of just the one sentence, because I don't think the preceding ones mitigated it at all. The whole bit shows how Obama is seeing himself through an inflating prism. He glorifies himself - he should leave that to others, and appear to be a little humbled. It couldn't hurt.

I also love how one worm has turned, at least. One of my main complaints re msnbc has been what they have turned some of my favorites into. Dana Milbank was one of my faves and I hated to see him spout the "party" line. Another one I really liked was Richard Wolfe and was just sickened to see him tuck tail and roll over. Howard Fineman was no bright light of courage either, and Andrea Mitchell......and Chuck Todd.....

I wonder if any of them will take a closer look at themselves and follow Milbank's example. How can they not be disgusted?

The hilarious part is KO' s actual announcement of Milbank's being blacklisted - what a hoot! I wonder, has any other "anchor" ever "fired" a reporter openly because that reporter said something the furher didn't like?????I can't remember it. I doubt if they will even admit they blacklisted Craig.

We have a new political party, the MSNBC led by
SS Grupenfuhrer Olbermann who is also the entire
MUAC (Media Un-American Activities Committee).
Herr Olbermann is assisted by party functionary Tweety.

If there is ever a sea change at the station, you're gonna have to let me know because I literally do not watch it.

P. Hilton responded to JM ad. lol

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/64ad536a6d

She's got my vote!

Or just on the same email list? ;-0

Jack

HiCaliber, Raps For McCain, check out the first track "Use Your Brain" Vote for McCain. The 2nd Track "Mr Conservative" HiCaliber mixed in Bernard McGuirk from last week, Imus In the Morning , and does a shout out to Bernie and Imus toward the end.

http://www.myspace.com/hicaliber

I remember the old Supportimus.org website banner- Free Speech For Imus and Hip Hop. FINALLY, what a long strange trip it's been.

Conservative Black Rappers, are under represented in the Media, why is that? Everyone knows about Ludacris and his uh er Rappin for Obama.

"...there were so many low points for women back then. Things have really improved.

nite

Posted by: chloe | August 5, 2008 6:50 PM"

Just concerning women in the media, I would disagree, as media has been sexualizing young girls at progressively earlier ages, through such vehicles as "Hannah Montana", "High School Musical" and the like.

In a somewhat related matter to that and what Jamie mentioned yesterday, many career-oriented women around my age with whom I'm familiar are questioning their rationale as they find don't themselves in committed relationships and become more aware of the decreasing opportunity to safely have children.

That's not me talking, so don't kill the messenger. I have just noticed a lot of my female contemporaries questioning the feminist agenda of the 60's and 70's and whether the resulting social shift was for better or worse. I make no assertions to that end.

Can you believe how many of these Media pundits -- excuse me, Strategists -- on these cable news channels make Pat Buchanan look like the prescient voice of reason?

Unlike Brittany, I don't think anyone thought Paris was stupid ... spoiled and shallow trust fund tart yes. Stupid. No.

Yeah, I know. It's fun, though.

Is there a qualitative difference between flip-flopping on Off-shore Drilling to get in line with the Party Line versus get on the right side of the Polls?

John

There he sits, your basic racist far right troglodyte and they make him sound sane.

Hear, hear, Bethy!

"Can you believe how many of these Media pundits -- excuse me, Strategists -- on these cable news channels make Pat Buchanan look like the prescient voice of reason?"

Scary ain't it John. LOL

Jack

"P. Hilton responded to JM ad. lol"

That was hilarious, Rez...thanks!

"Go figure."

Nah, champ -- ya gotta admit, Paris was pretty damned funny in that.

champ

the problem is the 60's and 70"s feminist agenda which was opening up opportunities for women. It was the wingnuts that became the symbol of the movement in the late 70's and 80's. I doubt if any of your friends want to go back to the restrictions of the 60's.

Jack

Hey, Folks! We're now have to come up with accepted parameters for what is, and what is not a legitimate Town-Hall meeting. I just saw a video segment where Barack refers to something that was said or asked in a "Town-Hall" meeting that he was just at. Since my general observation is that Obama doesn't do unscripted settings, and that since he is avoiding McCain in true Town-Hall settings, that he is building up occasions he can reference to counter what I just said.

"Unlike Brittany, I don't think anyone thought Paris was stupid ... spoiled and shallow trust fund tart yes. Stupid. No."

Yes, Jamie -- I thought that when people were talking about bimbos....while Paris Hilton seems bimbo-ish, from what I've heard, she's taken that image and bankrolled it into a fortune on her own. I'll tip my hat to her for that.

I'm not sure what I think of Brittany Spears, other than that I wish the photogs would back off an obviously fragile little chick.

vadaryl ----------------------------------

If you are lurking - I am listening to the netcast.

"That's not me talking, so don't kill the messenger. I have just noticed a lot of my female contemporaries questioning the feminist agenda"

Champ -- there was no single "feminist agenda" other than equal access...just as there is no single "gay agenda."

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/08/summer-thrillers-gas-pumps-sha.html#comment-124632

Champ,
I agree with you. I can’t believe you said that.
There is more sexualizing of young girls. Including more sexualizing of women doing the news too (although they’re slightly older). There are a lot of things that I see as getting worse.

I said they’re better now because everyone is always saying they are , so I figured there was something I was missing.

But I still don’t understand why your friends are blaming the feminist agenda of the 60’s and 70’s? I’m curious as to that line of thinking.

Bethy
I just love your posts! I have told you this before but it isn't possible to say it enough.I love how you always remind us its your opinion and your entitled to it! So True.I wish the world was filled with Bethy's.........

Goodness

gordo is missing his fan base.

It's August Gordo
People have other things to do. They will be back come September

Peace . >o=

Jack

I second that tony. More Bethy's!

Roger McGuinn-"Mr. Spaceman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU0p4dNmmWY

For this evening's entertainment. A man playing with his balls.

http://www.zippyvideos.com/9537885752303946/pianowithballs/

vadaryl has been actively working to get Hillary's name placed in nomination. What he has done was mentioned on a pro-Hillary netcast.

Chloe,

Because since they've spent most of their twenties pursuing career goals and 'having fun' (translation = getting loaded and sleeping around), they now find themselves unmarried and without children, hear their biological clocks ticking, and are starting to come to grips with the sad reality that many men prefer younger women, which they had been up until recently. Like I said, just what they tell me.

".I love how you always remind us its your opinion and your entitled to it! So True.I wish the world was filled with Bethy's........."

Worth a repeat, Tony! I's also a member of the Bethy fan club!

Champ,
Thanks for that explanation.
I've seen that downside to the getting married later crowd.

But maybe they're just not looking at the right guys.

Because she can. wealth has it's advantages.

Jack

I'm going to just have to disagree with tony and Patsi on one point, boop.

Argumentatively, I don't think it's fair that you state your opinion and then discourage response by stating you're not interested in contrary viewpoints, or that presentation of such is futile. Please don't take the wrong way; I otherwise I enjoy your posts, though, and appreciate your perspective. I realize I have my own faults which I'd be well-served to mitigate. Of course, that's just my opinion, and I'm entitled to it. <(joke)

"are starting to come to grips with the sad reality that many men prefer younger women"

Uh, as the Chicks say, there's yer trouble....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fjG9-d3gXE&feature=related

"But maybe they're just not looking at the right guys."

...nope, but they had their chance, and now I have other priorities.

Champ -- I hesitate to try for a serious answer to your agenda/regrets question....but the fact is women know there's the choice. I got married young, had kids young, got divorced. My daughter waited, spent 10 years working A&R, then married and left to have her daughter. She's probably going to stay married because they both had their shit together.

"Great minds do think alike Rez." 10-4

"Or just on the same email list?"

Jack, Actually no email here, I think we're just surfing the same sites. Not the 1st time this has happened

Rez
BTW

I love the video, Paris has a real energy policy. she gets my vote.

Jack

Yeah, nothing a few posts back, Rez. I just couldn't resist. Consider yourself collateral damage.

"...nope,but they had their chance,and now I have other priorities"
Champ
Wished I'd had your brains when I was your age.......

...wasn't for lack of trying, tony.

Billy Ray Cyrus "I Want My Mullet Back"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnMj1FI9Jpo

Don't tell me what to do, Nazi.

Oh Champ, np, I always had you down as a "do as i say not as I do" kind of guy.

really weird comments tonight.....just what are you trying to say?

David Gergan says the Obama needs to consider Hillary for Veep if he wants to win because he needs a fighter.

Let's nominate the real thing for President..Hillary Clinton.

Obama and McCain..what a dismal choice.

Touche, Rez. The word is "hypocrite", by the way.

Travis Tritt - Long Haired Country Boy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1XurYweiJQ

G Man, this ones for you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmJnFZy-PtU

men prefer younger woman, many times, because women their own age won't have anything to do with them.

there must have been a need ~~~

"Are you mullet wearer Patsi?"

No, but unlike you, I have enough hair to be one should I want....

Well, you can think what you want, UB, but that ain't the reason.

you don't need an excuse - if that is what you prefer.....

By the way -- did ANYONE not know that keeping your tires filled with air helped gas mileage?

I didn't realize dogs could live to 22. You learn something every day.

champ - then explain to me what the reason is?

you know I only know my own experience.....so please let me in on the truth as you see it

Gotta go try to piss off somebody at work. Night all!

Charlie Daniels "Uneasy Rider"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMN7fGZW_BY

It's nothing you'd want to hear, UB, and frankly not something I want to type.

"Well, you can think what you want, UB, but that ain't the reason."

Champ -- You know that UB and I never agree on anything, but she was SPOT ON with this observation:

" because women their own age won't have anything to do with them."

ok then I'll chalk it up to "hot air"

Hee Haw...omg!..I haven't thought of that show for ages...lol

Whatever floats your boat, UB.

And maybe you're right. I guess I know a lot of **s**** guys that treat woman like ****. I'm not one of them though, and it baffles me how women get involved with such types in the first place. I find alcoholism is usually a factor. Luckiliy for me, I'm not a big drinker, either.

Commander Cody - Hot Rod Lincoln

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUA6mnEXo8I

My father liked the low cut tops....but I had no idea until I was much older...lololol...and the show was gone

If you need snappy comebacks, you know where you can find them.

Little NASH Rambler
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns0EnXNoNXk

Champ.....what ever.....your reply is a bit too non-descript to make any comment.

By the way -- did ANYONE not know that keeping your tires filled with air helped gas mileage?

Link please!

cheesy sets....tacky costumes....lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNOg-9YiEKU&feature=related

more hee haw...lol

Tom Lehrer - Poisoning pigeons in the park
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhuMLpdnOjY

lol Rez

lol your Dad was funny.....he was right!

Aww, that's sweet... here's to your Dad and his contempt for rural America.

OMG Champ you think rural America was depicted in Hee Haw...lol...who has the contempt now...?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot164km7WMw

unrelated spouses???? how do you have a family reunion in a corn field?

Should have thrown a "Boo-Yah" in there for good measure, UB.

champ

He's from New York, nuff said.

don't know UB's problem.

Jack

have fun.....tomorrow is yet another day. Ciao!

no one ask you Jack .......but we all know that doesn't stop the Jack.....does it?????

Later problem seekers

workin man blues
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTdKbkbPu7o

Your problem UB, what ever it is.

Jack

Good. 'The' Burrito is leaving.

watch out - I might come back......"adios" you little tiny piece of chicken shit

Monty Python Holy Grail The tale of Sir Robin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4SJ0xR2_bQ

^classic and appropriate

You great big giant piece of chicken shit

yep
drunk again

Jack
You are so funny,who's drunk?

not me Jack - alcohol is too fattening....not on my diet.....one glass of wine, a small glass is 2 points....did you know that?

ha! ...not likely you even know anything about the point system....

Nope, wasn't me. You think with all I've said in here I would feel the need to change my name for the sake of one insult? Puh-leeze. 'champ' is fake enough already.

Besides, my Monty Python clip above is a parody of cowardice. What a dimwit.

okay really - Have a big board meeting tomorrow, where none of this is in play.......enjoy......and win.

God damn, "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" is some funny stuff, even after all these years.

Tony
You ,me

hell it looks like everybody here

Go back and look at the last 30 min.
I felt like it was closing time at some neighborhood bar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-IlMR9p1Ls

Jack

champ
bring me a shrubbery!

I think the serfs making mud pies whilst discussing socio-political theory is an appropriate metaphor for this place.

OK, here's the clip:

Serfs making mud pies

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xd_zkMEgkI

champ

Most days that's us and some days we just throw the mud.

More Holy Grail

The insulting French

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V7zbWNznbs

LOL:

Woman: Well how'd you become king then?

[Angelic music plays... ]

King Arthur: The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water, signifying by divine providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. THAT is why I am your king.

Dennis: [interrupting] Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
... you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just because some watery tart threw a sword at you.

That's cool, Rez; making sense out of me will probably end up killing me, too.

And I just got up-to-speed re: the Millbank/Olbermann feud, and I have to say, Olbermann has got to be the most self-righteous, pompous **s**** in the media, even beyond O'Reilly, upon whom he built his 'franchise' through the ridicule of similar rhetoric. Hilarious. Can't wait 'til the media machine spits him out like they do with everyone else.

I've seen them both. They were, even O'Reilly, believe it or not, refreshing upon their respective debuts, as they were more inclined to be less biased and seemed quite rational. They are both blowhards now, two peas in a pod, clamoring to defend the empires they've created empires by not alienating the ideologues they attract and upon whom they depend for their livelihood. Funny stuff.

Just because I don't have a TV doesn't mean I'm totally unaware of them. They are very ubiquitous, everybody else has them, and has them on all the time. When I go to a friend's house or a bar and see a blaring idiot-box, I am reminded how happy I truly am to be rid of it.

and to Craig:

I tried to watch (couldn't get through it, sorry) your "Countdown" clip from the other day, and the contrast of your relaxed look sans tie and long-ish hair was a great contrast to Olbermann's greased hair, red tie, and ill-fitting over-starched pinstripe suit was great. You made him look like the tool he is without even trying.

^(views expressed not necessarily representative of Mr. Crawford.) Love ya, Keith! Keep up the great work!

OH man, what a horribly composed paragraph that is. That's my cue. Good night.

Just heard R Maddow on KO: "where ever Obama goes, a crowd comes to see him. As opposed to McLame, who has to go find a crowd."

Good one Rachel!

lol. Obviously a paraphrase as Rachel wouldn't say McLame.
Least not on air.

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I disagree with this story completely ... at least ``` THAT's not this area around us``` my daughter, Carrie just grdurated from College, works at a Savings Bank & a Manager at AMC theater here .. she's got the ear of a very big age range .. they wanted Hillary Clinton, all around ....

NEW THREAD

Champ - I appreciate all of your last post, esp the nice part. But you mis-understand my motive for stating in my posts a reminder that "it's just my opinion." I don't say that to stop people from disagreeing with me. I say it to remind people that anyone who wants to call me a fucking moron, or any other of the empty insults that have been thrown around here, will be attacking a basically non- threatening poster. It would be an un-warranted attack.

I don't mind people disagreeing with me at all. I do HATE rude speech and name-calling and juvenile insults, because I hate the anger within then. I grew up in an anger-filled house, and it raises my blood pressure. I don't indulge in it, and I think a rational exchange of ideas is impossible when the anger and insults are exchanged.

So please tell me when you think my reasoning is flawed - just remember that I put forward my ideas in a sincere attempt to explain my views, and not to offend anybody. In this instance, I feel I know pretty much who will disagree with me and have never had any desire to offend them.

So, Champ, I wasn't trying to forestall disagreement, just trying to keep insults down. That will always be my agenda.

Tony,Chloe, et al - those are very sweet things you said about me, but more of me? Even I couldn't take it. I love my own company but actually tend to be drawn to people who are not like me. I love variety.

Actually, I did understand your motivation, and I can't blame you. If you noticed, I only get vicious with those who engage in the same. There are a few who take a few cheap shots and then claim to be above such trifling, like EuroTom and UB, but I even go easy on them because I know they're not up to the task and it wouldn't be sportsman-like. I dig what you're saying, though.