Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

woot

...as long as he doesn't reveal he has a Roger Clinton or a Billy Carter in his personal baggage closet.
Well...I take that back! Billy Carter was great copy! I even quaffed quite a few "Billy Beers", made in Louisville by Falls City Brewery. Billy had people lugging Sunday papers around saying to their friends, "Hey, C'mere! You gotta read here what Billy said in this interview!"
Roger Clinton? I remember Roger Clinton and Roger Clinton was no Billy Carter!

Spike, It's time to lay a grand on Biden over the field.

Do you wonder about the timing of this just days before the convention?
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Obama Sued in Philadelphia Federal Court on Grounds he is Constitutionally Ineligible for the Presidency

"Moreover, even if Sen. Obama could have somehow been deemed "natural born," that citizenship was lost in or around 1967 when he and his mother took up residency in Indonesia, where Stanley Ann Dunham married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian citizen. Berg also states that he possesses copies of Sen. Obama's registration to Fransiskus Assisi School In Jakarta, Indonesia which clearly show that he was registered under the name "Barry Soetoro" and his citizenship listed as Indonesian.

The Hawaiian birth certificate, Berg says, is a forgery. In the suit, the attorney states that the birth certificate on record is a forgery, has been identified as such by three independent document forensic experts, and actually belonged to Maya Kasandra Soetoro, Sen. Obama's half-sister.

"It is unfair to the country," he continued, "for candidates of either party to become the nominee when there is any question of the ability to serve if elected."

http://www.americasright.com/2008/08/obama-sued-in-philadelphia-federal.html

PUMA

They're following Biden around like hound dogs after a pretty little thang in heat.

These are the ones that face reminds me of .

http://www.ancient-egypt-online.com/images/s/king-tut-2.jpg

http://www.artsales.com/images/nefertiti%20restored%20(2).jpg

Hey - I did it ! I did it! I posted a link! That's a major step forward for me.

Actually I think Nefertit is more like the face.

I know I know - who cares about old dead people whenthe vp candidate might be named any minute?
I'll go quietly.

Personally, I think you can narrow down the field to Biden, Clark, and Clinton. All three have the foreign policy credentials, but there are three additional reasons. Here's why...

1) All three are former Presidential candidates have already been fairly well vetted by the press. I know a well-known pol who won't endorse anyone for President unless they've already run once, just for that reason...

2) Once #1 is satisfied, I'd be looking for someone who can raise money from sources other than those that Obama has tapped. That would be Clark or Clinton. Both Clark and Clinton have good relations with the "West Coast Celebrity" donor groups that Obama hasn't tapped well to date. Biden didn't do all that well fundraising during his 2008 Presidential campaign.

3) I'd also be looking for a person that can bring in demos that Obama is having a problem -- Women over 45, and voters in the west. For the first, that would Clinton. Clark and Biden both do much better with men than women. For the second part, that would be Clark. He came in second in New Mexico and won the Oklahoma primary in 2004.

Now for the speculation...Clark is supposedly at a conference in Europe, and has said he might be back in time for the Nomination speech on Thursday. However, the conference isn't listed on his official schedule...

Given the above, Clinton would probably be the obvious pick, but if it's not her, I'd watch to see if she isn't Obama's first Supreme Court nominee if he's elected (a little quid pro quo).

Biden has made it well known he wants the job, but from the above, I'm not sure exactly what he brings to the ticket. I know the common thought is that VP nominees don't help the ticket, but can hurt them. I'm not convinced the Obama campaign shares that view. It's pretty early, but it's obvious they're not getting the traction they'd like at this point in the campaign.

Then there is Kathleen Sebelius who was in Des Moines today, was very demure about the VP slot, and no one I talked to could find out her schedule for tomorrow....

Just my .0143 euros...Spike

Enjoyable reasoning to read, Spike. I didn't realize Biden wanted it so much. Well, I can live happily with any of the three but prefer Hillary because she has so much more energy. Then again, if it's Clark, that leaves the other two in the Senate, which is good
Actually, I'd like all three to be very visible in an administration.

Hillary as scotus? Would she want it, at least yet?

>>Hillary as scotus? Would she want it, at least yet?

Sure...if Obama wins, it sets her up for 2016...

OK, I didn't get my 3am phone call, so I guess I'll go to bed. Between the Veepstakes and the Olympics, it's going to be a long couple days....Night all...

Spike - you think she would accept scotus for 8 years just to be able to run for potus after those 8 years? That's a stretch, it seems to me. I think she'd rather be involved in making laws than interpreting them, but boy could I be wrong. We all could since we don't know them.

I agree Bethy. Hillary is a great politician and the S. Ct. is not really the place for a fighter. I also think making Hillary a Justice would be injecting too much politics into the Court.

I still think Hillary is best as Senate Majority Leader - whether she has the official title or not. She can be the Liberal Lioness!

It makes the best use of her wonkish talents and her unflinching will (and stone-cold stare) for partisan battles on the floor.

Based on the primary (and her entire career) - I think the most fitting job would be sponsoring landmark HealthCare legislation that President Obama would sign into law in his first term.

(btw PUMA's - that is legislation that would never see the light of day in a McCain administration...)

One more thought before I go to bed...

With respect to energy - I think we must explore a wide range of options. We should also keep in mind that the energy crisis is global and with populous nations like India and China on the rise - it is going to be a long-term issue. If American can lead the way in innovation - we can capitalize on exporting new technologies all over the world and reinvigorate our economy.

But in the short-term - no one is really talking about how increasing the strength of the dollar would have an immediate effect since the price of oil is pegged to the dollar. Obama's plan to roll back the Bush tax cuts on the wealthy to the rates we had in the Clinton years will help - whereas McCain's plan to continue Bush's policy - which is a proven failure - will have the opposite effect.

" Roger Clinton was no Billy Carter! "

Ha! Ain't it the truth!!

Gordo, that's just sad.

I've also read about reports that John McCain is a sleeper agent for the Vietnamese. He's a 'Manchurian Candidate' of sorts.

People who are desperate will believe anything to meet their goals. You PUMAs want Hillary Clinton to win the White House -- I respect that. What I don't respect is folks like you going around and spreading salacious lies in the hopes that America will turn on Obama.

By the way, the attorney who filed that 'lawsuit' also believes that 9/11 was an inside job -- so he must be credible, right?

Ugh.

http://thepajamapundit.com/

A good article on Stephanie Tubbs Jones with wonderful tributes in the Cleveland Plain Dealer:

http://blog.cleveland.com/plaindealer/2008/08/hospital_confirms_us_rep_steph.html

Obama needs a "BlockBuster" ???
He needs to find one with a foundation to try and cover for him

With all this talk about being an author, I just wanted to say that I finished my first book last week. And next week, I'm gonna go to the library and check out another book!

ROFL Corey! I think it's a hell of a lot more interesting to be a reader than a writer!

Hope your family is doing all right. It's a reflective time, and one that never quite goes away. While my sister has been here visiting, we have spent so much time thinking about our parents and three sisters, all passed away now. I will say this, they still seem very much alive to us.

I wonder if Kwame Kilpatrick will get a text message from Obama. That would be kinda funny!

Good morning all! I know NQ isn't terribly popular around here- but today the ACORN story which I was aware before it was posted at NQ, has been picked up by The Tribune Review, and evidently it was recently mentioned in NYT. Sorry (especially since some might immediately disregard it because of the source) I haven't posted their link, but here is the NQ link. I would find the link but I gotta get to work!
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/22/acorn-–-csi-–-obama-someone-else-noticed/

OMG! Rush "I am not a drug addict" Limbaugh thinks McCain should pick Rick Santorum as his running mate. That's almost as objectionable a statement as the slimy one he recently made about Elizabeth Edwards.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_081908/content/01125100.guest.html

This is what happens when I have time to day-dream. Hold on and just follow my line of reasoning.

I believe this is still the financial rule of thumb for purchasing a new. Never obtain a new mortgage larger than 3 times your income. Example if you make $100k, and you sold your current home and cleared $50k, your new home shouldn't cost anymore than $350K. BHO's Chitown home, was on the market for $1.95 million, they bought it for $1.65 million (nice discount of $300k) and obtained a new mortgage for $1.32 million, with a down 20% payment of $330k. If the rule of thumb hold true then, $1.32 million times 3 = a yearly income of $3.96 million. Could it be that BHO was insulted when McCain said the "rich' made $5 million or more a year. Here poor BHO thought he was rich, and McCain increased the ante.

Opps that is wrong Sorry. Got that ass backwards LOL

In all seriousness, I was a published author when I was 8 years-old. One of my teachers submitted little booklets our class made in school to a magazine contest. We each made our own booklet. We drew and colored a picture on the front and then wrote a little story on the inside of the booklet. My booklet and the booklet of another kid got published in a national magazine. We received ribbons for this. Mom's doing okay so far. Keeping herself busy. I will probably see her tonight.

"My booklet and the booklet of another kid got published in a national magazine. "

That's cool, Corey. I think more programs where students can see "real" results from their writing would make a big difference in schools.

The truth is the BHO's are worth about $4 million, and McCain definition of rich is $5 million. So you can see why BHO was offended, he just didn't meet the minimum level set by McCain, BHO just didn't make the cut. Which shouldn't come as great revelation.

Here is a Wikipedia link regarding the Chicago Annenberg Challenge that describes a business relation between Ayers and Obama.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Annenberg_Challenge

Fry -- when I bought my house, I looked for something affordable, built solidly and a mortgage that did NOT change. I found a nice three bedroom brick house (circa 1960) for right at a hundred thousand dollars in a working class neighborhood where we sit out in front on lawn chairs and wave to each other.

One neighbor has a little heating and air company, and lives here because he moved back to help his ex-wife and sons when she was diagnosed with terminal cancer.

There are Asians, Caucasians, African Americans and Hispanics on this little street.

When my sister and I set up the granddaughter's puppet theater the other evening it was in the front yard, not on my back deck. The 12 and 13 year old boys skateboarded by and waved while "Blue Mermaid" chatted it up with "Purple Princess" on stage.

When I had to be gone on Halloween, I stopped by the home of the Hispanic couple down the street and told their five kids I'd left a big bowl of treats on the front porch for them. When I got home there was a little handwritten "Gracias" note in the bowl.

I love my street.

This link contains the Curriculum Vitae of Barack Obama. Notably absent is the several years period of time he served as Founding Chairman of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (along with William Ayers). Since this "Foundation" controlled, distributed and dispensed $110 Million for local projects (including at least one, $150,000 to a Bill Ayers-led group), it becomes significant by its absence.
http://brokengovernment.wordpress.com/2008/02/13/barack-obama-is-he-the-one/

BHO seems to be "going Hollywood".

Over the summer I have seen him, with his family, on several magazine covers(even the tabloid kind).

All the secrecy over his VP pick is like what goes on with A-list celebs when they are getting married or expecting a baby.

IMHO, BHO seems to thrive on all the attention...he is becoming a real diva!!

I am thinking, with all the build-up surrounding his VP selection...it better be a real bombshell!!

Speaking of divas...except for the mag covers, I have not seen BHO's wife lately.

Ralph Reed was just on c-span....and some caller told him he ought to be in jail. ROFL!

"I love my street."

Thanks, for that Patsi.

Craig, You make it sound so easy.
Just show readiness, empathy and character.
But how do you convince so many people?

Luckily, he only has to do it better than McCain.

Patsi, I love your street too!
(even though I've never been there):)

Good Morning Lovely People!

Patsi -- I love the description of your street. My street is a bit like that -- although my neighborhood was built 14 years ago. There are 200 homes in our neighborhood and we all stay in touch through a yahoo group that we set up 9 years ago. We see each other on the street all the time, but the yahoo group is an instant way to stay in touch. We tell each other about new babies, weddings, graduations, deaths, yard sales, giveaways, missing bicycles and missing yard decorations. On Halloween, the entire neighborhood participates and people from other neighborhoods often come here because we have sidewalks and streetlights, we stock up on candy.

I don't know if anyone posted this yesterday. It's part of the email Hillary sent about Stephanie Tubbs Jones. I thought it was wonderful:

"She had a light that shone for the world to see within her and a fighting spirit safely stowed behind her disarming smile. Stephanie had so much integrity and a fiery intelligence that enabled her to become a one-woman force for progress in our country.

Stephanie was a tireless worker, giving a voice to the voiceless and always combating injustice. Stephanie spent much of her life fighting for all Americans and to ensure that everyone had the most precious right - the right to vote.

All of us who were lucky enough to know her and love her can only strive to be as much like her as we can -- to be as passionate, as loyal, as hard-charging, and as joyful every single day. "

Bethy,
I know you said you thought very few people would see your post because it was so late. But it was so beautifully written, I hope you don't mind that I'm linking it on today's thread.

My favorite line from it: "he really wants to communicate, so I say Thank God and I'm looking forward to a new chapter for all of us."
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/08/its-all-about-the-clintons.html#comment-131078

Dexter, Thanks for sharing that NancyNall site. I liked it so much, I bookmarked it. "The truth isn’t what you say it is; the truth is always malleable."
http://nancynall.com/

Stephanie Tubbs Jones -- Standing up against the odds, even when it wasn't popular or easy, showing guts, courage, true grit and more cahones than any male in the room. RIP Steaphanie. We will carry on for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdA1skqD0TY&feature=related

Ok, here goes what may be wishful thinking.

One down and fifty thousand black authors left to go! LOL
Posted by: Mr. Democrat | August 22, 2008 1:16 AM

John Ridley?

"On Halloween, the entire neighborhood participates and people from other neighborhoods often come here because we have sidewalks and streetlights, we stock up on candy. "

Alicia -- Halloween is one of my favorite holidays. When I was a kid it was a big production at our house. I always helped my dad decorate, hanging ghosts and ghouls from the trees and carving jack-o-lanterns for the walkway. My mother made Carmel apples and popcorn balls in addition to all the candy bars, etc. My dad loved sitting in his chair, smoking his cigar and guessing the identities of the kids who traipsed in for Mom's apple cider.

I REALLY hated it when the psychos started poisoning candy and homemade treats went by the wayside.

'All the secrecy over his VP pick is like what goes on with A-list celebs when they are getting married or expecting a baby.'

Linda, after all this buildup, I sure hope it's an exciting choice.

"On Halloween, the entire neighborhood participates and people from other neighborhoods often come here because we have sidewalks and streetlights, we stock up on candy."

Alicia, when we lived in the Canal Zone we always looked forward to Halloween. Panamanian kids would get all dressed up and go trick-or-treating right along with the CZ kids. Their excitement in getting American treats was _our_ treat.

"One down and fifty thousand black authors left to go! LOL
Posted by: Mr. Democrat | August 22, 2008 1:16 AM"

I know who he is now, but won't "out" him.

I will, however, buy one of his books. And if I like it, I'll say so and buy more.

Will people have to pay to receive his announcement??

"Panamanian kids would get all dressed up and go trick-or-treating right along with the CZ kids. Their excitement in getting American treats was _our_ treat. "

That's neat, Flatus. I love hearing about your tours....

Corey, I'm glad to hear your mom's doing ok. You too?

Patsi, Tell me. I'm wrong, right. At least let me know that much.

No, it's not Ridley.

I'm disappointed.

"John Ridley?"
--chloe

Ohhhh...good answer, good answer!!

I do enjoy the links everyone posted & check them out, but won't be back to post ... if anyone wants to keep in contact, amblush617@yahoo.com take care .... !:^}viv

Viv, I hope you didn't mean that.

And I joked about Mosley, but knew he wouldn't waste his time dicking around here with us -- ha!

Maybe Craig know John and will ask him to come visit with us.
Craig?

Morning Everyone,

"after all this buildup, I sure hope it's an exciting choice."
chloe, I totally agree. I try not to get my hopes up, that way
I won't be too disappointed if it's not someone exciting.

Craig,
Your video today makes a lot of sense. Obama really does
need a blockbuster convention especially because his poll
numbers are shrinking. You made the point that Obama needs
to clearly define his character. That is so true.

As far as the convention, I'm looking forward to seeing Hillary and
Chelsea and, of course, Bill, also, the film produced by Linda Bloodworth-
Thomason and her husband, the tribute to Hillary. Betcha that'll
be good since they're both Emmy winning television pros.

Ah, Patsi, Give us some credit.
We are a popular 'reality show' from what I understand.

"... I try not to get my hopes up, that way
I won't be too disappointed if it's not someone exciting."

I hear ya Maria.

Marcia, forgot the c

OK...as to Mr. Democrat's identity...my guess is Charles Barkley!!

woohoo!!! 8~D

Does anyone else fine Spike's posts as informative as I do.
Thanks for that 2:40am post Spike. You're so easy to follow because you're so analytical.

Speaking of black authors: I first knew about Barbara Neely because of her feminist work, then her "Blanche White" mystery series. She wrote four books in the series, and they are brilliant.

http://blanchewhite.com/index.html

mornin' all.

Gordo, not that I don't trust yoru reight wing wacko sites, but neither the Philly inquirer nor the WEBSITE FOR THE EASTERN DISTRICT OF PA FEDERAL COURT lists a lawsuit by Berg against Obama. I would think one of them might think it worthy of mention.

"We are a popular 'reality show' from what I understand."

ROFL -- true, Chloe.

Hitting Him Where He Lives
"Anyone who has watched rivals needle each other in a pickup basketball game will recognize what is happening right now between Barack Obama and John McCain. It starts with bumps, shoves, maybe a few elbows—and then suddenly it's a windmill of fists, torn shirts, and a lot of bad words about mothers. On Thursday, the presidential race reached a whole new level of nasty."
http://www.slate.com/id/2198381/

let's try "not that I don't trust your right wing wacko sites"

damn typos.

what I loint dis week:

there's always a damn good "excuse" behind bad manners and insulting remarks.

a la bye-bye and the name change: to wish to go from being "bye-bye billary" who spends all his posts in vitriolic attacks (crush your enemy) upon the most successful democrats in recent history election-wise to being addressed as "Mr Democrat" is being quite overbearing and more than a tad offensive. Jimmie Jack or Joe was too mundane?

been watching orb spiders all week.....I'll get to that later.

chloe,

I find lots of folks posts on Trail Mix informative and just plain fun to read. I can't list everyone I especially like, because I'm afraid I'll miss someone, but you know who you are (I hope). Anyway, I'm a fan!

Sometimes, I wish there was a way I could leave tips for many of you. You know like drop a five dollar bill into your hat or something.

You never know Patsi

oh......I hope that whoever-he-is's books are nothing like his posts here on this blog......

"Sometimes, I wish there was a way I could leave tips for many of you."

Me too Marcia! I'd like to write a list of names right now of everyone I enjoy so much too, but I know I'd offend someone by forgetting them. (Like in the Academy Awards, when they forget to thank some important person and never hear the end of it.) (Here I go again, comparing us to tv)

.I hope that whoever-he-is's books are nothing like his posts here on this blog......"

Sturge,
In fiction, it would probably work.
I understand he write detective novels. They are my favorite.

sorry for all the typos today - don't know what my problem is.

"but I know I'd offend someone by forgetting them. (Like in the Academy Awards, when they forget to thank some important person and never hear the end of it.)"

Or like yesterday when I forgot sturge was married and "christened" him a bachelor!

May I recommend "Henry Poole is Here" for anyone who wants to see a good movie this weekend. It was a real surprise. Funny, but meaningful. Of course, I am a big Luke Wilson fan.

I saw your post Patsi, but didn't notice that. LOL

I was just checking out other political websites and the VP guessing game
is fever pitch.

But, does anyone really think that Obama choosing any of the short listed VP running mates is going to be a game-changer or even all that thrilling? (except if it's Hillary).

I mean how could anyone get all revved up about any of them?
Biden? He's a decent guy, but exciting he isn't.

PM.....a lot will depend upon (in addition to the actual choice) what bill and hill have to say at the convention, I imagine.......

sturgeone,

Yes. You're right.

I feel a little guilty for posting this, but I always find it interesting to know what they're saying elsewhere. (I really don't hate Obama anymore - Yes, I think that was a compliment).

‘Yes we can'? Make that: ‘Oops, we may not'
Barack Obama's historic procession to the American presidency has been rudely interrupted. The global healing he promised is in jeopardy. If you're prone to emotional breakdown, you might want to take a seat before I say this. He might not win.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/gerard_baker/article4582920.ece

A lot ALWAYS depends on what Bill and Hill say Sturge.

Marcia, I agree.
Only one name would really excite me.

Whether Obama's selection is a blockbuster or not----
(the only blockbuster choice would be Hillary--all others fall short)----the media will continue to hold Hillary Clinton responsible for any real and/or perceived defects in Team Obama's campaign.

Today's NYT:

"At Rally, Finding Clinton's aid to Obama too tepid."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/22/us/politics/22clinton.html?ref=politics

Well, I don't buy all the accolades (from the predictable sources - sorry Craig, I don't think the name change from one pseudonym to another was a standup thing to do). Yeah there was a reduction in the vitriol for very short while, but instead of trying to stay in a discussion and argument mode, the attacks against anything Clinton and anyone who supported either of them came back with renewed vigor. The defense of Obama that the supposed change of spots should have signaled was and is rare, and the ad hominem attacks that were de rigeur under his prior moniker haven't gone away. He may be black - who cares - and may be an author - but since we don't know who he is or what he's written - who cares? I only engage with him on those rare occasions that he discusses an issue without trying to make it personal against the folks here or the Clintons or when I'm bored and need a little diversion. IMO his positive contributions to this site and the discussions that occur here are few and far between. It would be nice to know what he's written, but that would blow his cover, so I don't expect it.

pats.....no hay problema in re the married thing......I, of course, am never allowed to forget it.......

sturg, LOL - I've got the t-shirt, too.

Although I do think it's Biden, I find it interesting Obama mentioned the economy and foreign policy as the emphasis for the vp pick. Biden and the economy --not so much in my opinion. Biden is responsible for the worst consumer bankruptcy law (MBNA Biden) and he loses people on the criminal justice side for his idiot rave legislation. I think people already upset at Obama for his shift to the center are not going to be enthused by the vp choice...no matter who it is of the short list.

"I, of course, am never allowed to forget it......."

Ha! Good for Mrs. Sturge!

Katherine,

It would seem that there is only one individual who meets the criteria expressed by Obama--both economic & foreign policy credentials-----that would be Hillary Clinton.

Coreen
I agree but we know it's not Senator Clinton. The core Obama supporters would never stand for it since most of their enthusiasm is based in Clinton hatred.

good morning gang....

I'm glad it's finally convention time..... time to get back into my political mind and see some serious campaigning..... here's to hoping the convention goes well for the Democrats....

heard some analysis on NPR yesterday that said Obama needs to stop being on the defensive like so many Dem presidential candidates before him..... he needs to step up and prove he can lead by leading the discussion..... I agree with that....

Chloe..... Spike was a treasure on this site during the primaries......

Bethy.... congrats on the upcoming new grandbaby!

Craig.... have fun at the convention....

CNN is suggesting that it's going to be Evan Bayh...Details to follow.

At least he's cute.

Mike Bloomberg
?

ET, sorry about Belgium's loss in the bronze medal game in futball. Them Brazilian boys sure know how to play that game.

Michelle Obama is on the cover of the latest issue of Ebony magazine. Since we were talking about being published authors....does Penthouse Forum count???

Corey, I think I've read your work!! lol

After the convention, PUMAs are planning to legally challenge SoetorObama in all 50 states - don't know about DC. The Repubs plan to do the same. This isn't just about the legalities, it's also about damaging him politically. What most refuse to believe is that SoetorObama has a "hidden" past. He has not been truthful about "Frank" (FMD), Ayers, Dorhn, Rezko, Auchi, Khalidi, Wright, Meeks, Moss, Phleger and countless issues. He has a "hidden" past. I know that's difficult for many to believe. Even the most visible lies are dismissed as "Right-Wing" smears. SoetorObama will be crushed under the weight of his lies.

Pogo....I never thought it would happen to me. But...

Biden VP. That would be a very interesting choice and one that would need a lot of restraining. I think Biden would be to much for BHO to handle.

kc, it could still be Biden - no one said we'd LIKE the vp's economic credentials.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/08/obama-needs-a-blockbuster.html#comment-131158

pogo,
I love it when you're so outspoken.
Keep it up.

Flatus -- Interesting story about your childhood Halloweens in the Canal Zone. I lived in Spain for a while as a child, but the Spanish didn't celebrate Halloween. In California I learned about Dia de los Muertos, and missed that when I moved East. Now, due to the growth of the Latino population in the DC area, it's possible to put on a pretty good Dia de los Muertos celebration with items such as sugar skulls purchased at local stores.

Prof Marcia, Chloe, et al -- I am so with you -- all this VEEP build up better result in a smashing announcement of someone really great. IMO the only person who fills that picture is HRC.

Gordo, other than the americaright.com link you posted, have you seen mention of the berg lawsuit anywhere?

Biden VP. That would be a very interesting choice and one that would need a lot of restraining. I think Biden would be to much for BHO to handle" Posted by: FryDaddy

Why Fry?

Oh I think they just say on CNN that reporters are surrounding Evan Bayh's home. Perhaps they are doing that everywhere. S'pose it is quiet at Hillary's place.

Pogo, I don't care if Belgium wins or not. Besides, I prefer Brazilians for all the wrong (or right?) reasons.

Katherine,

David Brooks makes a strong case for Joe Biden.

"Hoping It's Biden"

Working class roots, honesty, loyalty, experience.

"Biden's the one. The only question is whether Obama
was wise & self-aware enough to know that."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/22/opinion/22brooks.html_r=1&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&oref=slogin

thanks chloe - I've really never been known for being reticent, but I do know BS when I smell it. Occupational hazard and all that.

Good morning, good morning, you've slept the whole night through...good morning, good morning, to you!

Pogo
I'm still betting on Biden ...I never thought he was a good idea-he is just the choice. Biden does have a very compelling personal story and his son who is I think the attorney general of Delaware is going to Iraq in the fall. Plus he can claim DC outsider status since he goes home to Delaware every night :)

Like the cut of their , uhhh, jibs, ET?

'IMO the only person who fills that picture is HRC.'

I'm so with you on that Alicia. If it's not, I'm prepared for a big let down.

Good morning, good morning, you've slept the whole night through...good morning, good morning, to you!"

Now that's a much nicer entry into the room than yesterday.
Thanks Mr. D.!

KGC, I'm with you. I _like_ Biden.

Mr. D,
Do you know John Ridley?

MD

and woke in the morning, too!

Coreen
Bobo would like Biden. I think he fulfills the attack dog role etc
It could be worse. Obama could have picked Sam Nunn

At a Obama fundraiser, Fran Drescher said she was a Clinton supporter, but now fully backs Obama. But, she hoped he would picked Clinton as his running mate. As did Kathy Griffin. If not Hillary, Griffin was hoping it would be one of the Lohan girls.

KC, of the not Hillary choices, I'd have to pick Biden if it were my decision to make. Compelling personal history aside, he does have the FP chops that would be an asset in the WH, although in planning a WH staff and cabinet I would lean more strongly toward him as SoS - I think that's a better use of his talents. I still contend that if she would take it, Clinton is the smart choice. Who knows? All I know is that this manufactured anticipation and speculation is getting very boring.

Keep checking your phones, people.

Is this true? I don't know. But it will happen.
============================
Update on Federal Lawsuit

"Update 1: Case #08-CV-4083

This is the information I have received as of 5:28 PM EST:

Papers have been filed, not yet scanned into the Pacer system.

Plaintiff: PHILIP J. BERG

Defendant:
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, a/k/a
BARRY SOETORO, a/k/a
BARRY OBAMA , a/k/a
BARACK DUNHAM, a/k/a
BARRY DUNHAM, THE
DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL
COMMITTEE, THE FEDERAL
ELECTION COMMISSION AND
DOES 1-50 INCLUSIVE

I have no additional information."

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/08/21/update-on-federal-lawsuit/

A better question for Mr. Demo is does he know Deborah Edgerly?

"All I know is that this manufactured anticipation and speculation is getting very boring."

Pogo, could not agree more.

Pogo

told you so told you so..and you said no one was talking about Biden :))))))) just had to do that!

This is cool - Bryan Clay won the decathalon.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/sports/AP-OLY-ATH-Decathlon.html

Mr. D must be speechless today.

KC, did I say no one was talking about Biden? CRS must be acting up this morning.

Pogo
Not today....of course I am operating in a time lag because of my computer time out :)

One of my favorite movies. As for Ridley, don't know him personally, but I don't respect him. He scabbed by breaking the WGA strike. You don't join a guild and then cross the picket line when you go on strike, no matter what issues you may have with the guild. So everything he says is blah, blah, blah to me.

Gordo, I guess we'll just have to wait until someone picks up the lead and posts a copy of the complaint. Based on what you've linked, standing is the biggest issue I see to avoid it being dismissed. If it indeed seeks an injunction as described, the court will act quickly.

What's your favorite movie??

Gordo - the court's clerk assigns case numbers - using that case number as a search term yields no results at the EDPA site.

I guess my favorite movie would be the one I'd watch at any time as though I'd never seen it before, and still enjoy it. So that would have to be:

The Big Lebowski.

chloe,

Well for one Biden doesn't do well under questioning without gritting his teeth, has a short temper and isn't bashful of displaying it. Of all the US Senators he is ranked as one of the poorest, and actually has a second job during the summer teaching at UoD. Actually that may be a bright spot..

Forewarned is forearmed. Krugman on the middle class tax argument that will inevitably arise this season.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/22/opinion/22krugman.html?hp

Godfather, Godfather, Godfather

The Biden Romney Debates..yikes I think I just threw up a little

The Big Lebowski.
Another one of my favorites, Jeff Bridges.
Not to mention the Coen brothers.
Am trying to decide whether to see the new Woody Allen movie today.

"Biden doesn't do well under questioning without gritting his teeth, has a short temper and isn't bashful of displaying it."

Fry, that's what I like best about him.

Ok, so here's my speculation, for what it's worth:

75% Biden
25% HRC

I really think it's down to two.

Katherine,
How about Clinton/Romney.

Does that make you throw up too.?
Please say no.

Chloe

You are correct that would be fine...Clinton Romney I would enjoy that.

Good! me too.

Utopia, I'm going for the long shot.

'The Mouse that Roared'

Katherine,
now you've gotten me thinking about that.
Clinton and Romney, on the same stage, taking digs.
They're both quick. And smart.
But she's better.
I'd enjoy that too.

Fox News is reporting Biden has received two flower deliveries this morning...but the other possible choices have received none!

chloe:

More and more, I think it may prove to smart money. Apparently, Chuck Todd argues against HRC because there's too much scheduled for the Clintons at the convention as is. Sure, it's an indicator, but my guess is speaking and events schedules could be shifted if need be...

KC, Hannity sent them.

A consolation prize?

Quick, call FTD!

"my guess is speaking and events schedules could be shifted if need be..."

Utopia, I totally agree. I was even thinking that Wesley Clark could fill in one of those. But the flowers have me worried.

Craig, any new rumors?

chloe,

How far back in history would you have to go to find a sitting VP punching out a news journalist? No I just can't see BHO picking Biden. Like nitroglycerin, you just never know when it will go off or what will trigger it to go off. But then again BHO is just full of such wonderful, marvelous, secretive surprises! He is after all the enlighten-one.

Fry: Fill me in on this story, I've never heard it. Biden punched a journalist?

Fry, You make Biden sound more like McCains temper. Is he that bad?

Politics of Utopia,

You misread what i wrote. I never said he did, I asked "How far back in history would you have to go to find a sitting VP punching out a news journalist?" Biden is known for displaying a very short fuse.

Fry

He just doesn't suffer fools gracefully.

Fry: my mistake. I agree he's got a short temper, but I also think he could prove valuable as the attack dog. We can all probably agree that Obama's responses to McCain has been slow and tepid. Biden could help out significantly. I don't think McCain is going to stop his shotgun blast approach to negative advertising anytime soon; we need someone who can return his attacks in kind.

"As president of the Harvard Law Review and a law professor in Chicago, Senator Barack Obama refined his legal thinking, but left a scant paper trail. His name doesn't appear on any legal scholarship.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12705.html

"His name doesn't appear on any legal scholarship." Chloe@11:28

Which is fine--unless you claim to be a law professor.

chloe,

Oh Biden is even more so than JC. No one here has ever watched C-Span when Biden starts asking questions and doesn't get the answers he wants? He looks like he is going to explode, and jump over the desk. Biden likes to smile while clenching his teeth, something I always found endearing about the man. Wonder if all that teeth clenching has caused him to have TMJ?

"attack dog"

LOL

That would be in the figurative meaning, and not in the physical sense. Woof woof.

Jamie or any other horse racing fan,

Should I bet my 401K on Mambo in Seattle, listed at 5-1 in the morning line for the Travers?

Pyro is the favorite at 7-2.

flatus, many a law prof who has no ambitions beyond teaching in the classroom toil in obscurity without authoring any legal scholarly articles - oh, wait. Never mind. :)

Craig,

I think your assessment of what Obama needs to do at the convention is way off...What Obama needs to do is the following:

1. Be sure that he makes clear that the McCain campaign will be nothing more than subject, verb, 9/11.
2. Subject, verb, continue a failed war
3. Subject, verb who will really be running things if McCain doesn't know how many houses he owns?
4. Subject, verb, cold war II the electric boogaloo featuring the special guest star....The draft.

McCain realizes that with his finish line coming up, he has no future to really look towards. That's why they will trot out Rudy and the putz's to milk fear out of new terrorist attacks, even though the administration has removed the resources they were supposedly dedicating towards them...

Obama needs to stop the Mr. Nice Guy bullshit and take a cue from Pulp Fiction and go medieval on McCain's ass...

chloe,

"His name doesn't appear on any legal scholarship."

And we should find that surprising? His whole political career is rather lacking of any substance. This is why he needs a strong VP, someone with experience where he is lacking. The problem with that quest, there is not a moral human being on the face of the earth who can make-up for all his diminished qualifications. Think about it for a minute, who ever BHO picks for his VP, the D party should immediately nominate that person for POTUS of the party. This is why more and more journalists are thinking of BHO as a empty suit.

Wow. I have to agree here. I mean the audacity of Prof. Obama to have ambition beyond his position at U of C. What the hell was he thinking? He had a job, just stick with it. Politics is for those people without ambition.

I love how "the man without substance" just keeps beating folks. Looks like the "substance" folks are made of things the populous rejects. But it's all magic!

one thought.
If you noticed yesterday Clinton was campaigning in florida, very much acting as the VP.

Jack

Pogo, would I be correct in thinking that restricting one's practice of the law to instructorship in the classroom would be a much less rigorous occupation than writing briefs and litigating in the corporate world?

Jack, I saw the remark about her shoes being less than aesthetically pleasing. Made be think of that picture of Stevenson.

"would you have to go to find a sitting VP punching out a news journalist?"

Ya know this is only a problem with those peacenik folks and they are all ready voting Obama.

Let him punch out a journalist in Texas and he will carry the state. Become an adopted son.

Jack

Good Morning All

How are things in The Big Brother House this morning?

84 Charing Cross Road

According to Politico (as well as Drudge, who currently has the story bolded in red), HRC was never for a moment considered for the VP slot:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12713.html

Interesting...

Flatus,
It takes sensible shoes for those well place kicks that required ability as a VP candidate. They don't call her "ballbuster" for nothing.

Jack

"Wow. I have to agree here. I mean the audacity of Prof. Obama to have ambition beyond his position at U of C. What the hell was he thinking? He had a job, just stick with it. Politics is for those people without ambition."

Sorry, MD. The issue wasn't his working at the University or having higher ambitions.

He was misrepresenting his status. He was not a law professor. He was a senior lecturer--an adjunct position that ranks below instructor. A position that is not even part of the University faculty.

"Let him punch out a journalist in Texas and he will carry the state. Become an adopted son."

Jack, You have been here! (Texas):)

Flatus: adjuncts and professors are both members of the faculty, temporary though they may be.

EdVb

I would never bet the family farm on anything, but 5-1 odds are good on an across the board bet or for return on your investment particularly in the exotics
such as the Exacta or Trifecta.

PU not lecturers, not even senior ones, at the Univ of Chicago. Instructors and above, there.

Bear, this reminded me of your post a little bit.

By my buddie, James Carville (I wish)
Why Obama has to get mad to win

"Quite simply, he needs to create a more compelling narrative on change, use history as a context for the economy, and get mad about something."
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/20/carville.obama/index.html?iref=newssearch

Ya know, for all the hype on this selection there is no way the final selection can't be a letdown even if it is the devil herself.

Jack

lunch -back in a bit.

Chloe

Good point, he needs to break out of his cool reserve. Show some anger or passion. It is that reserve which feeds the elitist image, that and using John Kerry as a spokesman.

Jack

does everyone still think that the dems will make gains in the house and the senate? if so, john mccain might be bearable for four years. better than the empty suit.
veep wise, my money is on some one not mentioned on the 'short list'. i really think that the BHO anointers are shocked that he hasn't risen to extreme heights in the polls. but, it is early yet...

Jeez I really dislike Berstein. He's on CNN moaning about Sen. Clinton being "less than enthusiastic about Obama" in her speech yesterday in Florida.

The woman has lost two close friends within a week and she is still out there fulfilling her political obligations and he's upset she isn't yucking it up enought. What a crass SOB

My favorite part of that Carville commentary:
" Well, voters want to see a sense of urgency and outrage in their president: Outrage over our dependence on foreign oil; outrage over our increased cost of living, health care and education; outrage over declining incomes; outrage over an endless war and an idiotic foreign policy; and outrage over our country's loss of prestige over the last 7½ years.

To put it bluntly, Obama needs to get outraged over something other than "attacks on his patriotism."

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/08/obama-needs-a-blockbuster.html#comment-131268

As usual Jack, you're right on.

Chloe...favorite movie...Mindwalk.

"According to Politico (as well as Drudge, who currently has the story bolded in red), HRC was never for a moment considered for the VP slot:"

That's quite a let down Utopia.
I think I will go to that movie.

Harbor, That's one I haven't seen.
I'll look it up.

BHO, the candidate of change for the sake of change, the hope for the world if not the universe, not your old style DC politician but a pretty good version of the old Chicago D machine type, is running more negative adds than JC. 30 to 1 one more negative ads.

How can that be, he is the enlighten-one, our life boat is a sea of turmoil. When is he going to stand on the edge of lake Michigan and calm the waters, or feed the multitude? Or grow his $4 million into $5 million so he can fit into McCain's defintion of "rich". Where is the justice?

"Ya know, for all the hype on this selection there is no way the final selection can't be a letdown even if it is the devil herself."

Jack..... the important phrase being "the hype"......
I think it was Lushis who posted this morning about all the hype surrounding Obama's vp selection having a celebrity feel to it..... it doesn't say much for Obama when so many are more excited over his choice of running mate than his candidacy itself......

Chloe.... exactly..... Obama needs to get outraged over what's happened in this country over the last 8 yrs with Bushy in charge..... he needs to show he's passionate over the issues that matter to ordinary Americans..... as I said this morning.... he needs to lead the discussion..... he needs to get McCain on the offensive.....

Bear-Jack,

I posted this excerpt from nick silver at 538.com on an unrelated topic,but I think there's some good reasoning here. Maybe i'm off but it sounded good.

"One thing that Obama has not really been able to do is to generate some organic level of backlash when he is attacked. This is separate and distinct from the notion of "fighting back"; it is voters stepping in and refereeing the match themselves. Voters recognize that McCain has gone negative but they aren't really punishing him for it -- his favorables haven't moved at all. Why not? I think it has to do with the nature of Obama: he is new, he is confident to the point of being arrogant, and up until recently, he has been leading. To the extent there is any genius in the "celebrity" line of attack, it's that nobody feels much sympathy when celebrities are made fun of (well, except for this guy); it is a sort of sport to try and pierce their bubble." - N Silver

Chloe....
my favorite movie..... and Craig's too is "Being There".....

Peter Sellers is a genius!

Chloe...

It's somewhat hard to find. It's not available in DVD as far as I know (and I've looked for it)...but I have it in cassette form. Here's the description...

"Somehow it happens. A conversation begins, then the magic of interaction and the fever of ideas take over. The next thing you know, your train stop is miles back. Ot the restaurant is empty and the waiter is gone. Or the sun seeps into your dorm room. You've taken a Mindwalk. You're different than when you began."

It's set on the island-abbey of Mont St. Michel. The cast includes Sam Waterston, Liv Ullmann and John Heard. They portray a politician, scientist, and poet...in that order. Also, it's based on Fritjof Capra's "The Turning Point." It was released in 1992...but I find contemporary issues in it every time I watch it.

If you've ever seen "My Dinner With Andre", it's similar only in that it's a conversation. The difference, for me, is that the conversation in "Mindwalk" is actually interesting. I HATED "My Dinner With Andre."

These were sponsored links off of AMAZON as sources for Mindwalk on DVD

http://stores.films-classic.com/-strse-41/Mindwalk-%281990%29-DVD-Liv/Detail.bok

or

http://www.wings.to/rarevid/mindw.htm?gclid=CLOa5dPwoZUCFSahiQod1U6RlA

I can't guarantee how the transfer to DVD was done since it doesn't seem to be a major release, but at least there are sources.

"it doesn't say much for Obama when so many are more excited over his choice of running mate than his candidacy itself......"

LOL Renee. Hadn't thought of it that way.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/08/obama-needs-a-blockbuster.html#comment-131279
Renee, After I read that paragraph by Carville, I even felt motivated. If I could see Obama get outraged about those same things and say them in a way that I knew he got it and meant what he was saying, I might really change my mind about him. If only.

FYI: Geraldine Ferraro and Al Gore were named 4 days before the opening gavel at the convention, Lloyd Bentsen 6 days, Joe Lieberman 8 days, and John Edwards 20 days.

Another modern Dem record. . . good or bad, who knows ???

harbor, before I could even finish reading your post, Jamie had that information posted.

Thanks Jamie.

I'm a big fan of Amazon and a good customer to them too. I buy many things from them, not just books. There's very little you can't buy there.

HarborW....
I've often wondered how many people raved about "My Dinner With Andre" for the pretentiousness factor..... yet fell asleep in the middle of the movie.....

More from SoetorObama's "hidden" past.
=============================
Bill & Barack's Excellent Adventure

"Controversy builds over the withholding of the archives of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge ...

Researchers ... have found strong evidence of a very important working relationship between the two men ...

Obama and his campaign long have gone out of their way to downplay, in fact distort, the long and evidently deep relationship between Ayers and Obama.

... asked Obama about his relationship with Ayers, and the candidate responded:

"This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English in Chicago, who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He's not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis."

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/bill_baracks_excellent_adventu.html

People BHO should never use in an effort to attract voters.

1. John "She Was in Remission" Edwards
2. John "I coming Theresa" Kerry
3. Chicago's South Side, Antoin "Do I Have a Deal for You" Rezk
4. Reverend "God Damn America" Wright
5. Minister Louis "You White Devils" Farrakhan
6. William "We Should have Built More Bombs" Ayers
7. Bernardine Rae "Burn Chicago Down" Dohrn
8. Father Michael "I'm Not Black But I Can Sound Like One" Pfleger

Peter Sellers, you say?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mouse_That_Roared

Chloe

Those sites are not Amazon. They are companies that advertise on Amazon. If you read their web page, you see the reason for caution. They do copy classic tapes to DVD but there is no way of knowing if they are using master tapes. They do guarantee to replace any defective disk but they will not replace one if you are just disappointed in the quality.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/08/obama-needs-a-blockbuster.html#comment-131291

Fry, you sure have a way of describing people without using too many words. :)

Gotcha Jamie.
I'm gonna go see Woody's movie now.
Have a good day all.

chloe,,
Why waste anymore time on them than is required. They are what they are. Putting lipstick on a pig and all you end up with is a pig with lipstick.

If the MSM really wanted a "blockbuster, then BHO should pick a early 40ish, white, blond, legs up to here, female, republican. Now that would be a BLOCKBUSTER.

chet edwards, from texas is now on top the short list? who is he?

Now I just got a call from one of my neighbors to come over and smoke a stoggie, and maybe drink some single match scotch. I am on my way! Bye. Have a great weekend.

a fourty-ish white male? now that IS change we can believe in!

More on the SoetorObama lawsuit. Is this a hoax ? I don't know.
==============================
"Below is the official press release from Mr. Philip J. Berg, Esq, a man who has just recently filed a lawsuit (injunction) against Barack Obama, the DNC and the FEC:

Suit filed 08/21/08, No. 08-cv-4083

Contact information at the end of this press release. Documents filed with the court and a copy of this press release can be downloaded at the end of this press release.

(Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania – 08/21/08) - Philip J. Berg, Esquire, [Berg is a former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania; former candidate for Governor and U.S. Senate in Democratic Primaries; former Chair of the Democratic Party in Montgomery County; former member of Democratic State Committee; an attorney with offices in Montgomery County, PA and an active practice in Philadelphia, PA, filed a lawsuit in Federal Court today, Berg vs. Obama, Civil Action No. 08-cv-4083, seeking a Declaratory Judgment and an Injunction that Obama does not meet the qualifications to be President of the United States. Berg filed this suit for the best interests of the Democratic Party and the citizens of the United States."

http://savagepolitics.com/?p=1537

GOP Cribs -- The McCain Edition:

WaPo tours McCain's Mansions

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/21/AR2008082103691.html

Jamie...

Thanks you! Last time I looked, Mindwalk wasn't available on DVD. I'll order one today! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

Renee...

Not sure how one could stay awake during "My Dinner With Andre." They droned on and on about the most boring crap imaginable! Thought I was gonna die of boredom before I could reclaim my freedom.

If you ever watch "Mindwalk", please let me know if you found it equally boring...or boring at all. The conversation in it is fascinating to me. Last time I watched it, I was surprised to hear them discussing global climate change...in 1990 or 1992 or whenever it was released. Had not noticed that piece of the conversation in earlier viewings....

flatus, sorry for the delay - I was stuck on a conference call then had to answer the call of a higher power (Mrs. P).

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/08/obama-needs-a-blockbuster.html#comment-131249

Yes, I think I'd be safe in saying that most attorneys would say the classroom is an easier row to hoe than the private practice of law, whether litigation or corporate. In fairness to Obama, I don't believe he ever saw himself as a tenure track professor, and they are the law professors who write articles for law reviews, books, etc. for the most part.

Gordo, is there some reason other than the obvious one - that you do not want people who give a sh*t to be able to actually look at them - that you only download secondary links that don't let you do the downloads referred to in the text of what you post and link?

Renee, "Being There" is among my top 2 or 3. I almost hate to admit it, but I'd have to say that Gone With the Wind may be my favorite, but ther eare so many...

Chet Edwards is Nancy's P's pick

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/08/20/politics/p153335D76.DTL&tsp=1

Movie: Ship of Fools and Lebowski

I wonder if the coen bros in Leb were poking fun at polish americans.........

Boy Corey ....if Kwame Kilpatrick is any idication we are in bigger trouble than I thought.

Pyjamas; 6:28 am.....So!!!, I also believe that 9/11 was an inside job. Jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough to melt those girders and if the buildings fell from the planes they would have toppled sideways not imploded like a Vegas casino - it broke my heart I used to live just a few blocks from there. - It only served the purpose of the Repugs who wanted a war and the Mossad who wanted Saddam gone............

Alicia; 8:49 am.... Hear, Hear on Ms. Jones who was, as I said, a lady.........btw Your posts are always really thought provoking........

Chloe; 9:08 am....."does anyone else find Spike's posts interesting/".... I do..............

Sturgeone; 9:19 am........Me too..(hope his books aren't like his posts).

Rita

Sorry for the length, but I thought I'd pass along this - we can all use a grin. There's a photo that won't download, but picture an old guy with white hair and mustache, a blue cap with what appears to be a paratrooper patch, wearing a WalMart bag as if it were a woman's one piece bathing suit.

This is an actual job application that a 75 year old senior citizen submitted to Walmart in Arkansas .
They hired him because he was so funny.....

NAME: Kenneth Way (Grumpy Old Bastard)

SEX: Not lately, but I am looking for the right woman (or at least one who
will cooperate)

DESIRED POSITION: Company's President or Vice President. But seriously, whatever's available . If I was in a position to be picky, I wouldn't be applying here in the first place

DESIRED SALARY: $185,000 a year plus stock options and a Michael Ovitz style severance package. If that's not possible, make an offer and we can haggle.

EDUCATION: Yes .

LAST POSITION HELD: Target for middle management hostility.

PREVIOUS SALARY: A lot less than I'm worth.

MOST NOTABLE ACHIEVEMENT: My incredible collection of stolen pens and post-it notes.

REASON FOR LEAVING: It sucked.

HOURS AVAILABLE TO WORK: Any.

PREFERRED HOURS: 1:30-3:30 p.m. Monday, Tuesday, and Thursday.

DO YOU HAVE ANY SPECIAL SKILLS?: Yes, but they're better suite d to a more intimate environment ..

MAY WE CONTACT YOUR CURRENT EMPLOYER?: If I had one, would I be here?

DO YOU HAVE ANY PHYSICAL CONDITIONS THAT WOULD PROHIBIT YOU FROM LIFTING UP
TO 50 lbs.?:Of what?

DO YOU HAVE A CAR?: I think the more appropriate qu estion here would be "Do you have a car that runs?"

HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY SPECIAL AWARDS OR RECOGNITION?: I may already be a winner of the Publishers Clearing House Sweepstakes, so they tell me.

DO YOU SMOKE?: On the job - no!
On my breaks - yes!

WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE DOING IN FIVE YEARS?: Living in the Bahamas with a fabulously wealthy dumb sexy blonde supermodel who thinks I'm the greatest thing since sliced bread. Actually, I'd like to be doing that now.

NEAREST RELATIVE....7 miles

DO YOU CERTIFY THAT THE ABOVE IS TRUE AND COMPLETE TO THE BEST OF YOUR
KNOWLEDGE?: Oh yes, absolutely.

***Old People Rock! ***

Gallup: O +1
Rasmussen: O +2 / with leaners O +1

Philip Berg's address, phone numbers, Fax and email are listed.

Despite the fact that Berg has at least a short history of suits of this ilk (he filed a 180 page complaint in '05 against GWB and about every other person in the government over Iraq) I am sure that even he does not want the public flooding his office with requests for information that supposed are or will be available in the public domain. btw, I followed a link to his blog (from whence the Americasright post supposedly came (but since it was unattributed it is hard to confirm that)) and I could not get to that post, could not get philipjberg.com to come up, and have to conclude this is less than a legitimate avenue to go down.

UPDATE on Berg v. Obama Lawsuit

"11:45pm

I just learned that a hearing has been scheduled on the matter for 2:00pm today. I have no further details at this time, though I know that the hearing is not open to the public.

It should be noted, though, that the judge assigned to the case--the Hon. R. Barclay Surrick--was appointed to the federal bench by President William Jefferson Clinton."

http://www.americasright.com/2008/08/update-on-berg-v-obama-lawsuit.html

btw, I sent Berg an e-mail asking for a copy of the complaint. Stay tuned.

Rez -- very smart post:

Posted by: Rezdog | August 22, 2008 12:28 PM

PP

You actually believe that the Israelis and Republicans plotted together to slaughter 3,000 plus people just to start a war?

Bolt and the Jamaicans continue to blow the field away.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/sports/AP-OLY-ATH-Track-and-Field.html

the jamaican runner: His feets is his only carriage......

According to Gordo:
"After the convention, PUMAs are planning to legally challenge SoetorObama in all 50 states - don't know about DC. The Repubs plan to do the same. This isn't just about the legalities, it's also about damaging him politically. " 10:14 a.m.

And the US men advance to the BB finals.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/23/sports/olympics/23hoops.html

I think they call that sweet revenge.

yup, sturg

PUMAs don't have enough money to buy airline tickets in 50 states.

Tell Gordo, they're his words.

Patsi,

The guy was on to something with his point in my opinion.

I know there is a lot of frustration from Obama supporters (me included) regarding him fighting back. It's a skillful art, imo, one that I think he's been doing all his life. Not a knee jerk, smack the bully in the nose kind of deal, so I guess him and Axelrod are fine tuning the strategy. Buy there's only 75 days left and he better get going because I'm assuming more sh*t a coming from JM et al.

I think his does have to go with the 'America's not going to stand for this crap' meme. That's his persona. I worry that America's been dumbed down too much.

More Bergian bs.

http://archive.democrats.com/view.cfm?id=5348

Given his success rate, I don't think Obama needs to lose sleep over his last effort.

Mr. D

That money question is what always bothers me about the thousands of "demonstrators" that show up at events such as WTO meetings and conventions. Most of them tend to be under 30s who have their work days free for frivolity. Who is footing the bill?

Does daddy need to cut off the credit cards?

Since I have a strong distrust of the far left (and right} I am pleased to hear that Joe Lieberman is going to speak at the Repug convention. Could the crazed lefties say or do anything more to demean the dear, well meaning lackluster Joe? I doubt it. A hawk in the democratic party was not to be tolerated in their insular small tent.

I have nurtured even savored eight years of Bush distaste and find it incredible that Obambi has in a matter on months surpassed by ill opinion of Bush and taken that covetous position. The One who gives a "thrill up the leg of Matthews" voted against the surge, and it is IMHO Neville Obambi Chamberlain's "greatest blunder." Obambi refuses to admit that both McCain and Lieberman were prescient regarding the surge. I was unsure about the surge but I thought in deference to Gen. Petraeus give it one last try. So I happily say, give em hell Joe.

PUMA/Clintons4McCain

toast

Jamie,

Actually, I have no issue with people demonstrating. I think everyone should be passionate about something and be willing to educate yourself to the point of speaking out. This country was founded on a series of political demonstrations. That said, I also like to point out that there are some, not all but some, who've demonstrated for less honorable reasons. Just like some guys would go to hippie demonstrations because they thought hippie girls were easy, some middle class demonstrators are there for the violence and to be anti social.

Money is really not a big issue in filing a complaint - about $150.00 per state will do it, The complaint will be available on the internets to download, likely in Word, Wordperfect and ASCII format, and there are plenty of Bergs out there who would sign off and file it. I doubt that anyone really thinks these things will be successful, but they will sure make for an annoyance. Not the way I want to see the campaign go.

The Real Clear Electoral map has tightened

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/

McCain is a lackluster candidate. Obama was dynamic. and now just seems a bit boring (probably due to overexposure). This should be a Democratic landslide year, but it is starting to look as if it is going to depend on the younger generation turnout to offset older generation lack of interest.

No Milque. No one has a problem with Democratic hawks. We don't like traitors and Joe LIEberman is a traitor to the Democratic Party. It'll be great when the Dems get a veto proof majority and reassign Joe to a broom closet office. Maybe he'll be able to find his Joementum behind brooms and mops.

The PUMAs will attack SoetorObama in every state. Money is being raised and sympathetic lawyers recruited.

PUMA

===========================

"We saw this one coming. Hillary didn't end her campaign, she suspended it. Her operatives have been working on this for months. This is going to be one bloody battle - the Clintonostra vs. the most corrupt political machine in America - Chicago gangland style poltics."

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/08/the-art-of-war.html

DW just phoned and said she's starting to get pissed with all this suspense. Wondering out loud why he's waited until Friday PM or later for an announcement.

I told her to chill and suggested she take her friend out for an extended lunch (afternoon off) I told her not to worry, I'd stop in and drive them both home later LOL

It does make one wonder, what's the deal.

A quick followup...

Until about 2 a.m. this morning, I was thinking Obama was going to need an old while guy with foreign policy experience to balance the ticket (ala Kennedy-Johnson). However, upon reflection, I am now thinking that since Obama has been preaching "change" for so long, he's possibly going to put somebody on the ticket that will contrast the TICKET with McCain. That would force McCain to counter with someone like Pawlenty instead of Romney...

If that logic holds, look for a VP that's under 60, not necessarily white, and not necessarily male. However, from the discussion last night, I still think it will need to be somebody that can 1) bring aboard the over-45 females, and 2) can raise money outside Obama's traditional sources.

Mr. D

I have no objection to them demonstrating. My question was who are the sponsors? Who is paying the bills?

Atlas Shrugs is having delusions of adequacy again.

They are not PUMA. Hillary isn't PUMA. PUMA has now been picked up by Republican activists. Nothing is going to happen in that quarter.

>>>DW just phoned and said she's starting to get pissed with all this suspense. Wondering out loud why he's waited until Friday PM or later for an announcement.

If they want to get this into this evening's news cycle, they'd better start leaking it pretty soon. Sometime before 4pm EDT at the latest...I can't believe they're waiting this long....

Thanks, Pogo.

I guess the reason the 'professor thing' grates so much is that there're a couple of full professors in the family who do research, publish, are involved in knowledge tanks and institutes, and, generally, take much deserved pride in the academic title they've earned.

I know from what Warren said before, that it's common for people in law schools to describe anyone who teaches to be called 'professor'. I accept that as fact.

But, I think most of us take a more academic view of the use of the title and the status of its holder.

Spike, if it's not the blockbuster Craig suggests it needs to be, there won't be any excitement and certainly no bump, and voters will just do what they usually do on a late summer weekend.

"If they want to get this into this evening's news cycle, they'd better start leaking it pretty soon. Sometime before 4pm EDT at the latest...I can't believe they're waiting this long...."

It's okay Spike. They can do it at the last minute because they'll be using AOL.

Jamie; 2:09 pm.....What I believe - is that republicans don't care about people, only the bottom line and the Israelis would do anything for security.............Look at the way the Republicans have been floating the market for 8 years when it should have been in the tank........

I'm so sick of the word "change" until someone defines the "change", I 'll keep thinking I've spilt something on myself.............

Rita

Yeah, we called all our instructors professor, although about half of them weren't. I don't get particularly impressed by most of the articles authored by law school professors - often as not (like in many grad school programs) they were researched and written for the most part by the students anyway and edited by the profs. The articles still have great value, and not all are generated that way, but many are. Just as many of the Supreme Court opinions that stand as landmark decisions were written for the most part by clerks out of law school for no more than 2 years.

"if it's not the blockbuster Craig suggests it needs to be, there won't be any excitement and certainly no bump, and voters will just do what they usually do on a late summer weekend."

They've dragged it out too long with the "any time now" line. When it gets to the stage where ALL of the names mentioned seem to deserve a "That's Nice anything else going on?" response, Sen. Obama may have over reached a bit again.

Chet Edwards,

Just heard his name pop up on the news. Never heard of him??
Ring a bell anyone?

I always tell my students to never call me Professor, because I don't profess to much of anything. The only times I use the Dr. title is 1) when I'm dealing with MD's (they blow you off quite as quickly), and 2) when I'm trying to get a hard-to-get reservation...

Rezdog

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/08/obama-needs-a-blockbuster.html#comment-131309

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/08/obama-needs-a-blockbuster.html#comment-131357

I'd suggest it's a no sense of timing thing. At least for me at this point it will be an anticlimax. I gave a crap about a week ago.

spike, *chuckles*

Chet Edwards -- Congressman from Texas
Intrade now has him at 5-1 odds.

From Wikipedia:
In mid-February 2008, Edwards endorsed Barack Obama in the Texas March 4 Democratic primary.[14]

In late June 2008, House speaker Nancy Pelosi publicly suggested that Edwards would be a great choice as Obama's vice-presidential running mate.[15] Edwards has said that he would accept such an offer from Obama.[16] On August 22, the Associated Press reported that Edwards was on Obama's short-list as a potential running-mate.[17]

Missed it earlier KGC

Rez,

"Edwards, chairman of the Military Construction and Veterans Affairs Appropriations Subcommittee, is a nine-term moderate Democrat representing the GOP-leaning Texas district. He is well-known in Texas but does not have a national profile."

Spike,
He wasn't on the Intrade list yesterday , except as represented by the field.

Pogo,
Wonder if his name hurts him? One of those guilt by name association.

Edwards is the one pushed by Pelosi which automatically puts him in the YUCK category for me. I simply do not respect that woman's judgement about damn near anything.

"...and 2) when I'm trying to get a hard-to-get reservation..."

When Stinky and I flew off to Korea, I had set-up our frequent flyer stuff with the 'Hon Flatus Ohlfahrt' title, which, since once an honorable, always an honorable is allowed.

Never did it before, and probably won't do it again. But, It worked--got free upgrades on some of the legs.

Pam Geller of Atlas Shrugs was one of early investigators of SoetorObama's fake COLB. She is very Right Wing, certainly not a PUMA. She was attacking hard, then just stopped and said she was not going to attack any more. She was worried about helping knock him out. She's afraid Hillary would win the WH and wants him to be the nominee. But she's back on the attack - can't stop herself, I suppose. Doesn't seem logical - I've seen video of her - appears to be on the verge of some kind of ********* . Guess the election is getting to her - getting to a lot of people. PG knows plenty about SoetorObama and is frustrated about the MSM cover-up. I know the feeling.

The Fabulous Life of John McCain:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7PfSEtiXPw

>>He wasn't on the Intrade list yesterday , except as represented by the field

He was one of about 50 people on the list with very little trading at less than 5 cents per trade. I've been including him in the field...

MrD - thanks for the wake-up song.

I really agree with you about demonstrators. They certainly have a right to show up and make their feelings known, but I am always leery about big crowds of people - they always look like mobs to me.
As I've said before, I am a total chickenshit and want to stay at least 2 blocks away from them. Really. My mind goes to panic mode.

It occurs to me that adverbs and adjectives get to be so over-used! ' Really' and 'just' are two that I throw in way too often, and I hate it. An occasional 'truly' creeps in, but I'm making a commitment today to work on not over-doing the others. I mean, really, it's just that.......

By the way, I'm not getting a new grandbaby - it's a great niece or nephew. When my wonderful 4 year old called his other great aunt, he explained how this was going to happen. New baby was going to grow in mommy's tummy and then the doctor will pull it out.
"I don't know how he's gonna do that, however."
Also, "we're gonna stop after this." This kid is so verbal and loves to talk with us so much! He's the best conversationalist I know. It scares me that I'm, we're, so lucky. Who'd thought?

I am in full agreement with basically all of the thought being posted re the veep thing this morning. This waiting has great potential for creating a big let-down.

Jamie, I agree with you re Edwards. Completely irrational, but can't help judging people by the company they keep.

Blue in Dallas just let me know that due to circumstances beyond her control she will not be able to go to Asilomar in November.

Do we have any new interest folks? Mr. Democrat how about you. It isn't that far to Monterey.

I could use a room mate now if any of the singles want to share let me know before I make my reservation next week.

"Completely irrational"

I would venture a guess that neither one know the other very well outside of Congress. Moreover, her comments were probably just kind, supportive words from one Dem to another.
Or House pol to House pol, for the sake of the media.

Jamie & Pogo....
I agree about the "timing" thingy..... know how to hold the punch line of a joke just long enough, it works..... hold it too long and human behavior has one saying "who cares" even if it's hilarious..... Obama should have named his vp this morning, IMO.....

HarborW.... I've never heard of the movie "Mindwalk"..... but now I'm intrigued.... BTW.... I'm still playing the bowling with cats as the pins game... I think of you whenever I play it.....

Flatus..... then you obviously agree that Peter Sellers is a genius..... :0)

Bethy..... ok.... congrats on your upcoming new relative.... may he/she be hale and hearty and add sunshine to your life.....

Edwards is an interesting guy --he survived the delay redistrcting and is elected in basically republican district
and although he is an aggie he also has a Harvard MBA
(but of course so does Shrub)

Jamie,

Thank you for your horse sense input. My daughter and I went to Saratoga last weekend, and if it wasn't for the free T-Shirts they gave away at the track I'd have nothing to show for it but losing tickets and a sunburn. Emily had a few winners, but the one who did best was one of her friends who wasn't even there. The girl asked Emily to place three bets for her and two of them were winners.

Travers Day is a mob scene, but I enjoy roaming around up there. I figured I'd bet a slew of dollars on Mambo in honor of my C-List friends in the great Northwest. I'll probably look at exactas pairing Mambo with Pyro, Macho Again, and Court Vision.

Running out now, quick trip to Binghamton for a minor league baseball game-job related of course.

Still Waiting, Still Bored . . . Open Thread
By Big Tent Democrat, Section Blog Related
Posted on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 02:27:21 PM EST

Will you roll Biden out already? Sheesh.

This is an Open Thread.
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/8/22/152721/996

the comments are pretty funny

Ruhroh. Trouble in ObamaLand, VA. The grassroots are getting grumbly. I thought it was just happening in my area, but from this thread on Raising Kaine, it looks fairly widespread. What's that someone was saying about Team-O running a perfect campaign?

http://www.raisingkaine.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=15463

So let me guess...The Obama campaign is going to do a "let me pull a rabbit out of my hat" routine in Springfield tomorrow. The audience members will get to choose from Door 1, Door 2, and Door 3. Whomever is behind the chosen door gets to be the VP nominee...

Geesh, this is reminding me so much of when GHW Bush called Dan Quail out of the audience in New Orleans...

More from SoetorObama's "hidden" past.
=====================================
Obama’s ‘Partner-in-Crime’: Bill “the bomber” Ayres

"John Murtagh’s home was bombed by William Ayres’ Weather Underground in 1970, when he was 9 years old.

Here’s his story…. see link for video

We have previously explained that Barack Obama was untruthful when he dismissed Bill Ayres as “just a guy in the neighborhood.” Their relationship, in fact, is deeply connected through several controversial Chicago-based initiatives, including the Woods Fund and The Annenberg Challenge.

It was also recently brought to my attention that Michelle Obama’s friendship with Bernardine Dohrn, the other terrorist who co-founded Weather Underground, goes back about 20 years."

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/08/22/obamas-partner-in-crime-bill-the-bomber-ayres/

'How dare she be a politician "

rotflmao If it were Clinton your tune would be different.
What a farkin' hypocrite and jerk you are

Look at those Oklahoma train derailment pictures.

This is the means they want to use to ship nuclear waste across country?

Chet Edwards = Mr. Nobody

UPDATE on Berg v. Obama Lawsuit

"3:00pm

I just spoke with Philip Berg. The temporary restraining order was denied by the Hon. R. Barclay Surrick, but the exhibits have been taken into evidence and Judge Surrick has decided to leave the case open, allowing subject to once again be brought forth once all parties are served.

He mentioned that all related pleadings and documents can be found at ObamaCrimesdotcom, including the original complaint, the memorandum in support of the temporary restraining order, the press release, and more.

Developing as we speak ... "

http://www.americasright.com/

"Dan Quail" The reason (the wrong reason), that Lloyd Bentsen will never be forgotten.

JHC, finally a site with links to the Berg crap for those whose curiosity gets the best of them.

http://www.obamacrimes.com/

Well, I scanned the Complaint and read the Motion for a TRO (which was apparently denied). It mirrors all the stuff Gordo has posted here - multiple names, lied on Bar application, gave up citizenship, altered COLB, that sort of thing. Now that the TRO has been denied, and the wheels of justice grind slowly, November will have come and gone before this puppy sees the light of day.

Let the texting begin...
CNN has just reported that the vice presidential pick has been asked and he or she has
accepted. The coordination of sending the text messages out has begun.

I guess one's importance will be determined by the timing of their text message

I saw this on tv last night and thought of J.E.

http://www.ashleymadison.com/app/public/index.p

Hot damn, KGC! *Races to cell phone!*

Corey
You have a great sense of humor..nice and dry! Like a good martini!

Well folks, g'bye & good weekend.

"Obama told reporters on Thursday he's already made his choice, and aides have used the prospect of a text-message announcement to try to attract additional supporters by soliciting their cell phone numbers and e-mail addresses."

So that's the reason for the text messages!

I am reminded of a man I know, very much a scientist and very much a smart ass, who was in the audience at a convention. The subject was The Big Bang Theory, and the smart ass raised his hand and commented that he had always kinda gone with the idea that, instead of a big bang, it was more likely a big splat.

That's what I'm expecting from the vp announcement, no excitement re a daring or dynamic choice, but a splat. I just saw Chet Edwards and he's a fine lookin' man. I also heard him speak and he's almost soporific. He may be an exciting character but it didn't seem so. If O really wants someone to speak up to him, that trait had better be very obvious to the American people or the choice won't help his campaign at all.

Corey, I heard on Potus that the campaign wants their supporters to get the news at the same time the press and everyone else gets it, so they won't feel 'scooped' by the media. That was their explanation.

They said Obama was gonna speak in Springfield tomorrow. Maybe he picked Mayor Quimby?

Nothing definitive yet, but the Intrade markets are consolidating around Biden (2 to 1), Wes Clark (7 to 1), and Chet Edwards (10 to 1).

More as events warrant...

Politico says Hillary was never vetted for VPand Wolfson confirmed. Sorry I forgot the link.

julie

Chloe, what I quoted was something I read in a news article on-line.

Julie, I've read that on Drudge and other places too. I secretly hope it's a decoy.

"campaign wants their supporters to get the news at the same time"

They did send out the email encouraging everyone to "sign up to be first to know" days ago complete with the handy dandy "Contribute" button.

If this campaign were any more cynical, Antithenes would be campaign chairman.

http://www.answers.com/topic/antisthenes

I read that online yesterday too Corey.

Hardly leakproof ...everyone knows it's Biden

This is kinda like when they have the NFL draft on tv. Everybody waiting to see who the #1 pick will be this year.

Berg is only the beginning of SoetorObama's problems. It will be a 50 state attack. Some PUMAs working with some Repubs to take SoetorObama down. There are different agendas, but sometimes foes unite against a common enemy. This is not just a legal issue, the idea is to get the TRUTH out about him - reveal his "hidden" past. That's what pogo keeps missing - it's the facts of SoetorObama's "hidden" past becoming know to the public. Pogo can't stop thinking like a lawyer. There doesn't have to be a legal resolution - it's about causing maximum political damage.

Everyone might want to check their PBS station for tonight. Mine is showing the American Experience dedicated to Harry Truman. I saw it the first time around and it is excellent and worth a rewatch.

Do all texas politicians look like Bush? Look at the pic of Edwards and he looks like Bush, same hawk nose.. maybe they are related...yuk

I kinda like the idea of Chet Edwards. Then Edwards could run for President later and we might actually have the chance to have a President named Chet. We've never had a President named Chet before!

"Chet. We've never had a President named Chet before!"

And he could pick a VP named David

Good Night, David. Good Night, Chet

Instant Senior vote guaranteed.

No
it is Biden and it from a leak within the Biden organization
and it has been a fact for a number of weeks

Jamie,

That was funny.

Wolf said announcement could come any moment.

Mr. D

Thank you.

You didn't answer. Can you come to Asilomar in November?

Actually, I forgot about Chester A. Arthur. I guess that technically, he was a guy named "Chet".

If they pick this guy Chet Edwards, the yokels will get him mixed up with John Edwards, bad idea.

CNN even just showed a camera pointed on the airport in Chicago to see if a possible vp flies in at any minute to be with Obama.

If the phone don't ring it's me.

Obama

a little humor...just to pass the time, while we wait for BHO's big, bombshell announcement 8~)

http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Dan_Quayle/

I'll bet you that cool guy "Chad" from those cell phone commercials knows who it is! If AT&T was smart they would run a commercial for this. Have a guy be waiting to get a text message from the Obama campaign on his phone and then he realizes he has no bars on his phone and can't recieve the text message where he's at.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/08/obama-needs-a-blockbuster.html#comment-131387

Spike
that is about like what I told the wife yesterday, line the candidates up and walk behind each one raise your hand behind their head " who is for candidate#1 " " candidate #2" ect. read that old applausometer.

Jack

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9liAK2uUUA

Courtesy of Jimmy Buffett

Ragin' Cajun just mentioned a song because Randy Newman will be at the convention on Sunday. Randy is an incredible writer, but I love the Aaron Neville version

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6ZgqBSD5Pw

for no reason except it just seems like Zappa time

Stinkfoot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kf8TM4CIk5g

Jack

"real (slim) chance it could be Hillary. "

At this stage with all the nay saying going on for the past few hours that is about the only thing that would make this long, dragged, out Hamlet musing his options process worth watching.

I signed up for the announcement, but I gave them a fake number...uh huh...ohhhyeahhhh!!

ROTFLMAO!!

just kidding...

(I was just channeling my inner Dan Quayle)

Twenty-Twenty-Twenty Four Hours To Go Open Thread
By Big Tent Democrat, Section Blog Related
Posted on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 04:41:08 PM EST

Look, it's Biden. Ok. It just is. I know, Obama has not said so, but it is Biden.

I can't take it anymore -

Twenty-twenty-twenty four hours to go
I wanna be sedated
Nothin' to do and no where to go-o-oh I wanna be sedated
Just get me to the airport put me on a plane
Hurry hurry hurry before I go insane
I can't control my fingers I can't control my brain
Oh no no no no no
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/8/22/17418/1965

It's Sebellius no it's Reed no it's Richardson no it's is a teenytiny chance it's Clinton, no it's the only ticket for the one who has been waiting for the one

Obama-Obamaclone

After the big rally in SC, or was it somewhere else, he said it would be Oprah.

Well enough of the boring and manipulating death watch. Off to read a book.

frank zappa cosmic debris

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm9RqatOby0

I think this song has a lot of revelance for many of the questions we have today
"Call Any Vegetable"

Zappa Plays Zappa -
Dweezil Zappa
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZvFoSI5VN8

Did others see this on Drudge?

"KMBC's Micheal Mahoney reports a company in Kansas City, which specializes in political literature, has been printing Obama-Bayh material... MORE... Gill Studios, would not confirm information about the material. They would not deny it either. At least three sources close to the plant's operations reported the Obama-Bayh material was being produced... "
http://www.drudgereport.com/

Kerry had four different bumperstickers made up

Renee...

If you see "Mindwalk", let me know what you think of it.

And I'm still bowling for cats, too. Love that game!

And all the news organizations have multiple scripts in the can.

"Kerry had four different bumperstickers made up"

Thanks Katherine. I didn't know that.

This tells us absolutely nothing.
" Democrat Barack Obama prolonged the suspense over his vice presidential pick on Friday, saying he had chosen an independent voice who could be an effective governing partner -- but not announcing the name.

".."I want somebody who is going to challenge my thinking and not simply be a yes person when it comes to policy-making," he said on CBS' "The Early Show."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080822/pl_nm/usa_politics_dc_17

Chloe
to be fair..here is speculation on the Bayh story
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/8/22/183143/092

KC star blog on the obama bayh bumpersticker

http://primebuzz.kcstar.com/?q=node/13891

Kgc
From the comments section on your talk left link.

"Bayh, won't all those young text-message recipients demand a refund?"

lol
gotta be the best comment of the day.

Rutabaga rutabaga , rutabaga.

Jack , still channeling the zappa

Sorry, but I'm not going to make it.

Jerry Jeff, Redneck Mother

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYQevzz3aRM

John Prine Illegal Smile

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6svtzfZhlI

For Blitzer, Dobbs, Brown, Cooper, etc...this has got to be like a grown-up version of "musical chairs"...wondering who will be on-air when BHO announces his VP.

You gotta love Chris Matthews...

...after a segment in which CM and gang trashed McCain, saying he(McCain) is confused about how many homes he has.....Obamatthews just got his own name confused, with one of his own guests...

ROTFLMCAO!!!

Country joe and the fish
Fixin'-To-Die rag

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbBCfeM964s

Fixen to die rag updated

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aYC3yxVtso

Just a comment from the wife. The printing company printing the Obama /Bayh bumperstickers is a large order printer with nation wide business. They only do pressure sensitive product, peel and stick like bumperstickers.

Jack

MSNBC reporting Clinton, Bayh and Kaine not picked.

soooo.........the poop hit da fan yet?

I guess mosta y'all missed it......favorite movie: Ship of Fools

Katherine Anne Porter wrote da book........

Craig...you are lookin' good tonight!! Nice tie!!

What's up with Olbarackermann's obsession over how many homes McCain owns?

IMHO, KO is coming across as jealous.

Someone needs to tell him his attitude is very unbecoming...

"Bitter...party of One...your table is ready!!!"

Oh Lush, come on. You can do better than that. McCain is a doddering old fool who couldn't remember how many homes he has. KO is pointing it out because we're all pointing it out.

well, Craig's segment is over, anyway...time to switch back to Campbell 8~)

Charles? Charles Barkley...is that you?? 8~P

On sale now! McCain Action Figure complete with 1 tiger cage and 4 DEE-lux condos, 2 McMansions, and 1 Arizona Dude Ranch. Comes dressed in DC Insider's Power Suit or VC-Issued PJs. Additional accessories include personal jet, vintage Navy A-4 Skyhawk (crashed), 1 loyal-but-a-bit-heavy first wife, 1 fabulously-rich-and-skinny-but-drug-addicted second wife.
All for the low, low price of $5 million!

Optional Action Pals include Charles "Keating 5" Keating, Joseph "Good Fella" Banano, Carlos"Abranoff" Bonilla, Thomas "Saudi Buddy" Loeffler, Doug "Myanmar" Davenport, Doug "Myanmar Too" Goodyear, and Craig "Dirty Tricks" Shirley.

8:26 EDT -- Biden begin trading over the 80% probability level on Intrade.com. This is traditionally equivalent to a "sure thing."

CAVEAT: Nothing's a sure thing until an announcement's been made...

Kennedy is the first woman in the U.S. Army to hold a three-star rank. General Kennedy is a member of the Military Intelligence Hall of Fame. She endorsed anti-war politicians Eric Massa and Patrick Murphy in 2006. In 2007 she also endorsed Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton in her campaign for president. She is currently being discussed as a potential vice presidential choice for the Democratic presidential nominee, Barack Obama and is a likely candidate for Defense Secretary in the Obama administration.

Source: wikipedia.com

" You can do better than that. McCain is a doddering old fool who couldn't remember how many homes he has."

How many homes do John and Teresa Kerry own worldwide?

McCain's very conservative voting record might be more significant.

Obama's striptease may be risky business

"..... by keeping expectations hanging for so long, Obama makes it harder to deliver on all the anticipation. A weeks-long strip tease, ending with a naked Joe Biden or Evan Bayh—or some other safe but unsexy choice—might prove deflating.

“The only explanation that makes sense is that he really does have a surprise pick or he's trying to convince someone to join the ticket,” said a skeptical operative who has worked for Hillary Clinton, who believed that Obama has squandered a good opportunity to set the agenda in the week before the convention.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080822/pl_politico/12725;_ylt=Ajm52ywcePMNNPEl1ic6rhZsnwcF

Damn, LOL,

KiKi McLean is now talking for Obama.

And I use to send out swine alerts.

. You low life embittered old hag.

---swineNYC

Sturge

Swine have their uses.

Jack

fock wid da bull ya get da mierda.......ya ya, by golly

Patsi

You forgot edwards' mansion, Gore's mansion Pelosie's Vineyard. Now, what all the house issue has done for Obama is let McCain remind people of the dealings Obama Had with a convicted felon, Rezko.

McCain didn't even have to pay GMA to bring that point up in a piece on McCains houses.

Obama is back on his heals again. Flailing around and not developing a coherent message. The same dcan be said of this VP sillyness, It is getting in the way of his message.

Jack

McCain started crying the POW defense. . caused his faulty memory BS. . Fineman's right, nothing but a crutch for a doddering old fool. That's what getting old and worn out.

The out of touch billionaire meme will start having an effect among everyone adversely touched by the housing market crunch.

More from SoetorObama's "hidden" past.
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The Repubs are going after SoetorObama's dealings with Rezko. A New website: Obama Rezko Shady Deal. Lots of very damaging info. So you thought this was not going to be an issue?

http://www.gop.com/ObamaRezkoShadyDeal/

Rez

If Obama doesn't start getting his message together it doesn't make any differenc how many snide comments the Obama camp pushes about McCain. Notice this week everytime They tried to slam McCain,he turned the tables on him just like with this housing issue. The McCain camp got out the much more damaging point. Obama is just another corrupt big city pol.

This is not an exchange that Obama want to re-enact every week.

Jack

Jack

When will we know??? Damn this waiting game!

Keep hearing Sen.Obama never even considered or vetted Hillary!! Sad if true...

Patsi..Ignore the knotheads

Jack,
He is using this housing issue to broadly paint JM as being out of touch on the economy and using that as a major focal point in the coming weeks.

Tony
Stupid if true.
IMNSHO

Jack

PS: Biden will be a star attack dog on that theme too.

OD
I like you!!

Thank you Tony..

Bad mistake rez.

GMA this morning went with Obama is going negative and repeated the McCain camps talking points
A shady deal with a corrupt realestate developer for a million dollar house.

That kinda gets in the way of the message.
Then think about it from a 527 attack
"Million dollar house with a sweetheart deal"
Fits on a bumpersticker.
Add the word Chicago , he becomes just another corupt city politician.
It is really hard to shake that picture.

Jack

Jack
Stupid indeed.I hope it turns out not to be true,but Carville and Begala and Wolfson have all said it!!!

At least Biden would result in one qualified person being on the ticket.

I think the convention is going to be much more exciting than the Obamamaniacs think.

It's kinda like waiting to see who Obama is gonna ask to the Prom.

More from SoetorObama's "hidden" past.
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"Then there's the lingering triple play of scandals: Obama's vote and speech against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act that stuns and repulses even moderate pro-choicers; his ties to Bill Ayers and the ongoing cover-up of the documents surrounding that relationship by the University of Illinois; and of course now that houses are at the top of the news cycle, the Obamas' sweetheart house deal with crooked financier and Obama mentor Tony Rezko. That's ten weeks worth of scandal floated in one day. And inquiring minds want to know if there's more Illinois State Senate audio where the Born Alive Act sound came from."

http://townhall.com/columnists/HughHewitt/2008/08/21/the_obama_platform_dive_senator_empty_suit_dqs?page=1

Tony

Doesn't say a lot for Obama, if he would let personal feelings getting in the way of what is best for the party and country. He would rather lose than be on the ticket with HRC?

Jack

O D
I agree with you about Biden,love him.I just read his book and he's a great man!!

Two of my Obama supporting friends (Yes..I forgive them) have admitted to me that think he will lose. The bloom is off the rose.

Cory
lol

As I have no fond memories of highschool, the prom analogy works for me and explains best how silly it all is. Kinda like waiting in line all night in the rain, to be the first to buy the latest version of the Iphone.

Makes no good reason to me.

Jack

Tony..

I like Biden because he:

is smart
is articulate
has obviously worked very hard
has great experience
you are never quite sure what he will say next..more positive than negative
he has overcome significant obstacles in his life

I find it ironic that a lightweight like Barack Obama would be in a position to have decisionmaking power over a person like Senator Biden.

What is the book you are talking about?

Jack
My feelings exactly! I can't believe she was not considered.I am pissed! How could Sen. Obama not even consider Hillary for VP? Is this party unity...

If it can't be HIllary I would be content with Biden. He's a good man.

On the housing front, the Rezko connection is ready made visual for the Republicans. Just put up pictures of the Rezko built condemned slum housing that Obama got the funding to build next to pictures of the Obama home.

I doubt that is enough to defeat Obama, but it would throw up enough questions to give him a lot of trouble. We should be overjoyed that McCain seems to be turning into a truly lousy candidate.

OD
The book is called Promises To Keep...Joe Biden

"ongoing cover-up of the documents surrounding that relationship by the University of Illinois"

There is no ongoing coverup, silly.

How can there be a coverup of facts that everybody knows.

Gordo, if you are such a great researcher why don't you deal with facts from original sources instead of this thirdhand stuff you are peddling. It is easy to find out about Ayers and Obama's relationship. And He was not some body just down the street. But Obama was not dealing with a bomb throwing terrorist either.

Jack

Jack

"Is this party unity"
ask PUMA
if he doesn't choose Hillary, expect the sh*t to hit the fan

Jack,

This thing is just starting.

Rezko story has been out there for six months (convicted June 3rd) 527s have been planning that attack since before then. It was going to come. As is all the other Gordo promoted tales.

Seems to me he needs to tie JM as a further extension of W's last eight years and weave in JM as out touch with the ordinary guy with his own new economic plans.

It's fairly simple Jack, if voters buy into all of the Rezko etc stuff, as they did with Kerry and similar lies, then he's got it real tough. If not and he can rise above it with his ideas and policies, then he's got a chance.

Thanks..i will order it..

More from SoetorObama's "hidden" past.
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"Although Obama actually launched his political career at an event at Ayers’s and Dohrn’s home, Obama has dismissed Ayers as just “a guy who lives in my neighborhood,” and “not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.” For his part, Ayers refuses to discuss his relationship with Obama."

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MTgwZTVmN2QyNzk2MmUxMzA5OTg0ODZlM2Y2OGI0NDM=#more

"if he would let personal feelings getting in the way of what is best for the party and country. He would rather lose than be on the ticket with HRC?"

That's a bullshit argument. What's your proof? Just as bad as accusing him not wanting to win in Iraq for political motives.

His not seriously vetting Hillary is a bunny trail since he does not plan on losing for one thing. He didn't need to dwell on her, seems he wanted to see where Bill's had his business the several last years and that was not forthcoming. Cooperation's not there. Takes two to tango.

Corey -- Supposedly it's a hard lid until 7 am EDT tomorrow.

The Intrade market continues to give Biden an 80% chance of being selected (4-5 odds)...

Rez

but this was on the morning news not some attack add that can be discounted. The problem with the Rezko stuff is there is a long term relationship there. Obama had worked with him several time with complicated realestate deals that involved Non profits and the city picking up part of the developement expenses. Then there the issues that surround, his buying his house where Rezko bought part of the property at the ask for price and Obama got a reduced price. on his part. Was the vacant land more valuable then land with existijng house on it?
Could be. I can point o several parsels that I would think about buying if they were vacant but you would have to give to me as they are right now.

What happened was Obama launched a negative attack that allowed McCain to get his attack present as true by a respected news show.

Jack

Rez the statements aren't he was waiting to see anything, it was he did not even put her on the list.
If true then what I said is what we have IMO.

Jack

Rez
Obama better dwell on Hillary's voters then,unless there untouchable because of Bill????

"he does not plan on losing for one thing."

Not a winning point to the argument imo.

Jack

Cooperation = trust

Why would vet her if he doesn't trust her?

More from SoetorObama's "hidden" past.
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Obama: “I barely know Rezko"

"Speaking January 23, 2008, on ABC’s Good Morning America, Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) told Diane Sawyer “The facts are this: This is somebody who was active in politics in Illinois, who I knew. Nobody had any indications that he was engaging in wrongdoing.”

In particular, Sen. Obama most certainly should have known, since for a 20-year period Rezko had been Obama’s long-term friend, political patron, and personal “real estate fairy”.

http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/08/21/obama-i-barely-know-rezko-repost/

Rez
Hillary's voters that's why...Respect for yor fallen advisary is another reason...To gain the support of Hillary's voters through respect for her.What the hell this is common sense.

"he does not plan on losing for one thing."

Not a winning point to the argument imo.

Jack

Jack, you're the one who brought losing

"He would rather lose than be on the ticket with HRC?" -whskyjack

Tony,

I'll repeat myself from yesterday.

IMHO, if he can't win on his own merits, then so be it and that's the way it should be
And assuming you're a Democrat, if you don't vote for him than so be it.

Losing in a political campaign is an obvious consideration. This is especially true when you think about the disarray the party is in. For him to not even think about it would be monumentally stupid. He is not that stupid imo.

Jack

Rez

We are totally dealing in the unknowns. What wolf and Carville said may be true and it may just be spin or ignorance on their part.

Jack

Rez
Politics and winning is not just about one's own Merits.Appearances are equally important.Obama's failing with Hillary voters why?Important cause he can't win without them..I am a Hillary supporter and a former Democrat,I registered as an Independent because of Michigan and Florida.I will vote for Obama here in Florida because it will be close and I don't want McCain.I do know alot of Dem's here who won't vote for Obama,that is unless Hillary is on the ticket...

If it does turn out to be Biden, no real complaints with the choice and I will still vote Democratic but without any enthusiasm and no involvement in the campaign. I doubt I'll be missed with all those youngsters just dying to assist.

If it turns out that he never even considered Clinton and just settled for a safe ticket rather than a great one, then that tells me he places his personal desires before any other consideration. Brings us full circle to the arrogant feel many had about him from the beginning. Nothing new but not worth changing parties.

Beer run bbl lol

All the news programs keep saying it's gonna be Biden.

NEW THREAD

new thread

Tony,

"Obama's failing with Hillary voters why?"a thousand reasons, that we've cussed and discussed here for months.

"Important cause he can't win without them." In your opinion.

Jamie,

"then that tells me he places his personal desires before any other consideration."

In his selfishness/arrogance (your notions) don't you think if he thought with HRCC it was a lock , then he'd selected her?

"Government programs to create free or subsidized insurance will encourage many who currently have private insurance to join the government program. This is inefficient and will ultimately erode the private insurance system in the United States."

http://personalinsure.about.com/b/2009/04/09/why-did-hawaii-terminate-their-universal-health-care-insurance-after-just-7-months.htm