Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

More from SoetorObama's "hidden" past.
He opened the door himself.
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House-Gate: Open mouth, insert foot

"... during the latest installment of “This Week,” the presumptive Republican presidential nominee’s real estate holdings were discussed with every guest ...

What Stephanopoulos may not have expected was Time’s Mark Halperin claiming that “this is going to end up being one of the worst moments in the entire campaign for one of the candidates, but it’s Barack Obama.”

Adding delicious insult to injury, much to Democrat strategist Donna Brazile’s dismay, Halperin saw the Obama campaign’s attack on McCain not knowing how many houses he owns as opening the door for the Arizona senator to bring up the Illinois senator’s connections to Tony Rezko, Reverend Wright, and William Ayers."

http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2008/08/25/house-gate-open-mouth-insert-foot/

Here's some of the latest Rasmussen polls

http://www.presidentpolls2008.com/

I'm sure Michelle will do a terrific job, looking forward to it.

I just hope to hell they let Michelle be Michelle.
Illinois would be well served if she was Senator Obama. I like her she is one tough woman. My fear is the campaign will try to silence her or make her into somthing she is not. Notice I said try, they would not be successful but they could ruin her image.

Jack

How to Win Friends and Influence People

--Dale Carnegie

REal Clear Polls

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/

jo: that was a really interesting post on the last thread.

Brian

You are so cute with those pompoms.

Jack

Gallup Daily

http://www.gallup.com/home.aspx

piss off jack.

CNNs Suzanne Malveaux said Mrs. Obama chose a life of public service. Mrs. Obama makes over $300 thousand a year.

Not caring about material things is not the same as not being able to afford them.

"You are so cute with those pompoms."

He made them in his basement.

More from Roger Simon's article...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

"And Hillary could have tried to be warm to contrast with Obama’s cool. But when the Hillary campaign tried to
make her a little warmer, she either balked or the result was a disaster.

In September 2007, some top Clinton staffers arranged for her to appear on the season opener of NBC’s
“Saturday Night Live.” One said: “We told her doing ‘SNL’ would be a way of showing she was being a good sport
and letting her hair down. I pushed her, and Howard [Wolfson] pushed her. But she didn’t want to do that shit.”
Not until her campaign was in trouble, anyway. Obama appeared on “Saturday Night Live” in November 2007, but
Hillary didn’t do the show until March 2008, after losing several key races. "

foghorn

I guess what you were trying to say
"$300000 , that ain't chicken feed"

Jack

Hey Jack,

At least our team is still on the field with a chance to win. Your team is out of the playoffs, broke and wondering why the coach couldn't put together a winning squad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fJxt0Cg52I

MD

HRC on the brain today?
It is over my man, the big event starts tomorrow.

Jack

amazing sidewalk art (google sidewalk art for more)

http://www.nerdtests.com/picsarea/a028e9190dcba5f9efda7aea7bd9e12d.jpg

Jack

Why I say it ain't chicken scratch
LOL

From Michelle Obama's "forgotten" past.
About Bill Clinton
'===========================

"But, after a few seconds, she affected a funny voice. 'I want to rip his eyes out!' she said, clawing at the air with her fingernails. One of her advisers gave her a nervous look. 'Kidding!' Obama said. 'See, this is what gets me into trouble.'

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/may/04/barackobama

Brian or anyone,
When is MO scheduled to speak?

Hey MD don't forget to log into the chat tonight, should be fun!

At least our team is still on the field with a chance to win"

There are teams?

I' m not sure what time Rez, my guess would be 9:00 or 10 EDT.

Hey Jack,

I have to say, yeah, I have HRC on the brain. I'm not through with this Politico article and it's fascinating. Yeah, most losing campaigns have sour grapes, but she had all of the advantages and pretty much did all the wrong moves, until it was too late.

got it at the dnc site

I see they got some Navajos presenting the colors.

Like making eggs, You can't screw that up too bad. LOL

MD actually this latest hissy fit of the clintons isn't surprising at all, they crave the limelight the way a smack whore craves a needle in the arm. The know after Wend no one who matters will give a rat's ass anymore about anything they have to say or do, so they are bound to act out between now and Wend. night.

I'm taking bets that Obama supporters will still be running against Clinton after Wednesday.

haha, I just got a call from a crack whore asking that I not compare him to the clintons, go figure.

the clinton bore into their brains like spirochetes......

lol

haha, I just got a call from a crack whore asking that I not compare him to the clintons, go figure.

hearing voices again

Hey John Legends is doing a musical performance. I wonder just how much of this program is televised.

"but she had all of the advantages and pretty much did all the wrong moves, until it was too late. "

Hmm....last "selection" my candidate got out-Jesused. This time my candidate got out-thugged. Oh well.

"I just got a call from a crack whore"

No surprise there.

the crack whore was "slumming"

lol

"'ll be opening my chat room at 8"

I've got an idea!! Why don't you go now!!!

Linda Douglass, who used to work at ABC and NBC, and left the news business and went to the Obama campaign. Linda Douglass said of Joe Biden, he's not a Washington insider. "Joe Biden goes home every night to his family in Delaware, takes a train home. He's not of Washington."

Ed Rendell at a forum yesterday afternoon pointed out that MSNBC is in the tank for Obama and it's embarrassing.
Lou Dobbs on CNN said, "My colleagues are in the tank for Obama."

Biden in June of 2006 on Meet the Press talking about the Haditha massacre.

Russert: "Let me ask you a question on Iraq about Haditha, some of the other alleged atrocities. The fact is, our government knew about that for some time. How high up the chain, based on your information, do you think this goes?

Biden: "Secretary of Defense."

Russert: "What should be done about Rumsfeld?"

Biden: "He should be gone. He shouldn't be in his office tomorrow morning, but I'm so tired of saying this on your show. I've been saying this for two years." "Well, the president knew about Haditha in March." "Well, we can't get rid of the president. He's there for two and a half more years. There's a system of accountability. The system of accountability is it used to be a gentlemanly thing, as they say, when you make serious mistakes, you step forward, you acknowledge them, and you walk away. Presidents can't and shouldn't do that. Secretaries of Defense can and should."

Eight of the Marines charged for that so-called massacre and the cover-up have already been exonerated. One case is still pending. Using Bidens own synopsis, Biden then should step down as he has made mistakes, he was wrong on the surge, he was wrong on Haditha.

BIDEN: In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans, moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I'm not joking.

C-Span has gavel-to-gavel convention coverage. FYI.

Washington Post editorial board. October 25th, 2007.

Question: "Can I ask you something on that point? If you were to look at the educational results of schools in Iowa, you would find that they're some of the best in the country. Washington, DC, pays teachers substantially more, so clearly there's more to it than just we're not spending enough money."

BIDEN: You have to start off with what they start off with. There's less than 1% of the population of Iowa that is African-American. There is probably less than four or five percent that are minorities. What is it in Washington?

REPORTER: I think it's the vast majority.

BIDEN: Yeah. So, look, it goes back to what you start off with, what you're dealing with. When you have children coming from dysfunctional homes, when you have children coming from homes where there's no books, where the mother from the time they're born doesn't talk to them, as opposed to the mother in Iowa who is sitting out there and talks to them, the kid starts off with a 300 word larger vocabulary at age three. Half this education gap exists before a kid puts a foot in the first classroom.

Dang , it online live now. didn't know that

Rep Jose Serrano is speaking now. He lives in Stafford and commutes 1.5 hours to DC each day by car.

Shoot, I missed the code talker's colors presentation. I guess no one got hurt. LOL

Rez is not being politically correct. He's picking on the Navahos.

Tweety is really coming down on the PUMAs, good for him!

Where is the love?

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/08/25/2008-08-25_john_edwards_calling_former_staffers_ask.html

Crack makes people do desperate things, people.

Tweety is a split tail and just one of Ed Rendell's example of an overly bias MSNBC for the enlighten-one. Wonder if Tweety is still getting that tingle down his leg? Wipe the spittle off your chin Tweety.

Tweety is also confusing the PUMAs and the GORDO believers, but we're used to Tweety being inaccurate.

Hang in their HRC, 2012 will be your year.

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSLP66354720080825?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&rpc=22&sp=true

Not being an expert of the political term PUMA, but I think there are 2 different definitions.

" a smack whore craves a needle in the arm"

Brian is obsessed with crack.

WOODTV8 in Grand Rapids plus other tv stations and the Detroit News latest poll has it:

Obama -43%
McCain -41%

This is getting to be a bit much

We understand the media's Clinton convention tension story that's been rolled out this week was a pre-scheduled event, and that Obama and Clinton could have exchange bouquets in public today and the press was going to run with this story because they've been looking forward to it for weeks, if not months.

It's just that the press really does to seem to be grasping at straws in order to keep this narrative afloat. Check out washingtonpost.com's The Trail and its breathless item, "Clinton Advisers Skipping Obama Speech," in which we learn the breaking news that out of the tens of thousands of people coming and going from Denver this week for the convention, Terry McAuliffe, Steve Rattner and Maureen White won't be in town come Thursday night.

Folks, that's Very Important News. Just trust the Post.
http://mediamatters.org/countyfair/

New blog from media matters.

rez, bear, any other Obama supporters:

The chat room is open

http://www.brianarens.com/blog/chat.htm

Just use whatever name you use on the blog, no password necessary, if your name doesn’t work try another

Only Clinton bashing permitted

Patsi,

Did you ever run into a guy named Dwight Rucker in Nashville?

He is from my home town, lived just up the hill from my family, was in my sisters graduating class.

Here's Nancy!

Ann Curry is the worst interviewer on television.
She pretends to be a serious journalist but it is clear she has no idea what she is talking about and is just handed questions.

Interviewing Nancy P, Curry sounds whiny and petulant when Pelosi tells her she is full of crap;

MSNBC is all Clinton bashing all the time. The same question over and over and over and over and over.

let's have a worse-off.......ann curry and contessa brewer.......

I'm going with Ann because I think Contessa knows she is a dip and Ann thinks she is BaBaWaWa jr.

Jamie, I had one too many Navajo girlfriends in college to worry about being PC. lol

Watch cspan, of course that will give you nothing to bitch about.

Sturgeon

Did you see the interview Curry just did with former President Carter? The contest is over.

I saw it and concede.......

"Did you ever run into a guy named Dwight Rucker in Nashville?"

Bow -- no, is he a musician?

and I had such high hopes for contesser.......she was great the other day.....actually interrupted a guy to talk about her father......lol

I think I need a drink

I thought Brian had retired to the morally correct blog, his own.

KGC-Sturgeon
Just arrived home, missed Carter interview. Will you explain please what your comment "the contest is over" and sturgeon said I concede.. What happened?

Julie

I thought Brian had retired to the morally correct blog, his own.

Posted by: Patsi Author Profile Page | August 25, 2008 8:46 PM

A sock puppet needs socks, guess none came to the drawer

I'm watching baseball.

"post rational"

In case you didn't get, Rachel is saying you're all nuts!

Julie
Sturg and I were discussing who was the worst between Contessa Brewer and Ann Curry. Ann was interviewing President Carter and the interview was so bad - Sturg gave up his push for Contessa to be named worst.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/08/michelle-to-reboot-image-tonig.html#comment-133211

Horrible.

I switched the channel to Colbert.

KGC
Thanks,trying to catch up.

Julie

Teddy is your senator too!

MD

Being on the losing team is the story of my life, I've voted Democrat for most of my life. Ya get used to it. Looks like it is going to happen again. BTW is Dukakis coming to the convention. Mr Obama meet Mr Dukakis. Looks like you all have a lot in common.

Jack

Kerry can introduce them.......

Something to fit the mood

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhuMLpdnOjY

Jack

More Tom Lehr

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TytGOeiW0aE

Ahem, excuse me, Did someone in here call suicide watch.

A little Teddy boy goes a long way.

Jack

No need to worry nurse
We are Democrats were harded to it Been going on all our lives. Except for the big Dawg, that is why we hate him so. He ruined our misery with good times.

Jack

Teddy was great, god bless him.

Oh it is over, I'll turn the TV back on.

Jack

God bless us all.

Glad to see Teddy looking so well.

Jack - earlier you had said you would like to have seen someone chosen to speak who would helpful to draw in the voters of the heartland and west. Who would you have chosen?

Jack

Tom Lehr..."if your mommy is a commie then you got to turn her in..."

Haven't seen Contessa doing any interviews recently, but sure am glad she is long gone from Imus, she was painful to watch.

genuflect, genuflect, genuflect.........

Breaking news, role call vote to be cut short and Obama to be nominated by acclimation!

The process of acclimating or of becoming acclimated

ac·cli·mate
Pronunciation[ak-luh-meyt, uh-klahy-mit] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–verb (used with object), verb (used without object), -mat·ed, -mat·ing. to accustom or become accustomed to a new climate or environment; adapt.

"Breaking news, role call vote to be cut short and Obama to be nominated by acclimation!"

even if it is true won't do a bit of good. Obama needs to stop running scared and standup like a man.

Maybe we can switch Barack out for Michelle. she at least has a set of balls.

Jack

From Biden's "unknown" past.
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BIDEN'S CLOSE TIES TO REZKO: MORE OF THE SAME "CHANGE"

"Biden has described himself as a 30-year friend of a key figure in the Rezko trial who's pleaded guilty to a federal extortion charge in Chicago and is awaiting sentencing.

In 2005, Cari admitted to taking part in an $850,000 kickback scheme that prosecutors say was part of a larger political fund-raising operation for Gov. Blagojevich overseen by Rezko, who was convicted in June of wide-ranging corruption involving state deals."

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/08/bidens-close-ti.html

I thought the Teddy tribute was very nice. Although if you are a party trying to tone down the notion of elitism showing him on his sailing yacht probably doesn't help much.

Teddy proved you can outlive a horrible reputation and terrible misdeeds.

Sturgeone; 6:10 pm......."Dale Carnegie" Hear Hear......

eprof; 1:17 pm....previous thread..... "I'm a democrat, I belong to no political party." Me Too...........

Patsi; 4:22 pm.....are you serious, are the DNC really bugging Cindy Sheehan's phone? Boy pelosi gets more and more like this current criminal administration every day........

Foghorn Leghorn; 5:53 ........ "the Obots can't stay on message". Well Fog, you know what the attention span of a teeny bopper is.

I dont know about anyone else, but I really am tired of Mr. D's continual whining about being black - the trials and tribulations - and it really doesn't have to be, all he has to do is ask Michael Jackson for his recipe........

Everything I've seen today in Denver looks like some futuristic indoctrination center, the DNC has out done themselves, Land of the Free, Home of the Brave , what a joke................

Rita

Katherine- He has outlived a horrible reputation for some. No one ever seems to be lukewarm when it comes to Teddy. Either you love him or hate him. I am one of his constituents and his office is great. He is now helping me to get the 94th Army recognized as a liberating unit and has gone to great lengths to that end. He has submitted it all to the Senate Reasearch Center and hope to have good news shortly.

Debbie Wasserman Schultz just delivered a big FU to Tweety for his obsession with Clinton

OSH

Tom Harkin would have been good if you want an old style liberal. But mainly I would like to see some evidence that obama is expanding beyond the box he got himself into in the primary.

Jack

""post rational"

In case you didn't get, Rachel is saying you're all nuts!"

Putz. I stopped watching her when she let them turn her into a lipstick lesbian.

"Teddy proved you can outlive a horrible reputation and terrible misdeeds."

It only took two generations.

Rita -- here's the link to the Sheehan story:

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Cindy-Sheehan-Bugged-in-De-by-Rob-Kall-080825-412.html

Go to cspan now if you want to Claire McCaskill speaking, gotta love picture n picture

Fascinating that the same glassy-eyed crowd praising Teddy -- who ensured Carter's defeat at the convention -- is screaming that Hillary isn't ensuring Obama's success. Ain't stupidity grand?

KGC: I though the same thing about the sailboat and then cut to John Kerry.

Anyway, Sen. Kennedy's appearance was very moving. I hope he does live to see January 09 and beyond, and that he sees another Dem administration inaugurated.

Flatus

and a horrible disease.

Ted is popular with a minority faction of the Democratic party. When it comes to winning nation wide elections a losing wing of the party. It was fine for the party to honor Kennedy but the film should have been about Teddy, his battles and all the good he has done. For them to show picture after picture of Obama with Kennedy shows they don't understand middle America.
He is not a hero out here except for the college liberals.

I wish Ted well and hope he has a speedy recovery.
Jack

Plot to Kill Obama: Shoot From High Vantage Point
http://cbs4denver.com/investigates/assisination.plot.obama.2.802827.html

Thanks Jack- Reading your post earlier got me thinking about it and realized that I really don't know much about the hearts and minds of the heartland and west, anyways thought it was an insightful comment.

Ditto for the box.

http://myspace.lukecomputer.com/P4030152.jpg

Well they keep telling us that Biden is one of the few Senators who isn't a millionaire.

And another commercial about how Matthews and Hardball will bash Hillary again tomorrow. "Will HIllary Go All Out For Obama?"

Somebody needs to knock some heads together. All this wa wa wa is starting to make their hero look like a wimp. I mean really, is the little 5'4" blond going to stomp on his instep with her high heel? Somebody defend the poor dear.

Enough Already!
Maybe we really should give the job to Michelle.

Dog
Cutting to Kerry didn't help. At least it wasn't a picture of him wind surfing.

At least they can't blame Hillary for any plots to kill Obama., Now it's on Biden's doorstep. Only he would profit. Oops....you women haters should have been pulling for HRC to get the VP hat tip. You missed an opportunity.

Patsi- There sure is a lot of irony out there tonight, hypocrisy too.

More from SoetorObama's "hidden" past.
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The 527’s Reply to Obama’s Efforts to Quash Ayers Ad

"Bud White’s excellent piece on the Republican 527 ad now hitting the airwaves showing only part of Barack Obama’s relationship with unrepentant American terrorist, Bill Ayers, has the Obama campaign worried. First, here is the ad:"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4Oytd6DaWk

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/25/the-527s-reply-to-obamas-efforts-to-quash-ayers-ad/

Really nice video on Michelle

I am at the camp and I have only two channels on my TV with rabbit ears and that is PBS and NBC. Damn, I can still get the Democratic convention. It is on PBS. I was hoping I would miss it.

So far I am not impressed. Why did Caroline Kennedy get to pick the VP? What are her credentials for doing that?

I am pretty sure I am changing to Independent. No longer like the Democratic party. It has been taken over by has beens and those that haven't had time to be anything yet. That includes the "one" running for president.

With all this country has to offer, we have to select from these two turkeys???

Carol

Sea -- I've been watching The Closer -- might switch over to the convention. But from what I saw from the "experts" earlier, it was just a Clinton bashing ball.

West Coast time. I don't get the new episodes of Closer and Grace for another hour and a half.

I'm sure C-SPAN will have her speech available tomorrow if you miss it.

"With all this country has to offer, we have to select from these two turkeys???"

My sentiments exactly, Carol.

Her credentials seem to be that she is a blast from the past, living legacy of Camelot and JFK, to which Obama and his crowd likes to compare him.

Have been thinking about the odd Jackie/ Michelle comparison and I just don't see it. In fact Cindy seems to have more in common with Jackie than Michelle.

SENATOR KENNEDY'S SPEECH AT DENVER...YOUTUBE HAS IT UP ALREADY...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IDN4b58pTU

What a bunch of sour old souls you all are.

chat room empty?

better a sour old soul than a sour little jerk holed up in mommie's basement........

Tom Lehrer - Who's Next
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FgMTAj4f_o

See

banana boat freberg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qFRN_0qtmc

Home run for Michelle! Knocked it right out of the park!

Michelle did well. Those girls are a treasure now. They will have to work hard to keep them balanced.

Just stopped in to share your effervescent, winning personality Brian? How kind of you.

yes, it is rather kind of me. glad you took note.

Kind that sniffs round a dog's butt.

OSH

nobody to chat with, I guess.

Michelle did well. held my attention mostly and for me tonight that is saying something. Can't seem to get into the convention tonight..

Jack

Outstanding first night, dramatic in all the right ways.

Not much into it either. It's all a bit too contrived for me. Watched it hoping someone would change my mind. Hasn't happened yet.

Can't wait for the Big Dawgs speech wednesday.
Jamie you should get a pot together on how many minutes the Big Dawg goes over his alloted time. If history is any guide it should be a snoozer.

Jack

well.....worship-boy is in high gear.......must have been a good speecher.........

I thought is was odd that Kennedy didn't mention Biden at all.

Also, I am glad the Obamas are now using more appropriate music, during their appearances 8~)...(maybe it's just 'cause their children are there tonight).

It'd be funny if he just got up and said......"Vote for Barack.......Thank you and good night."

lol

OSH

They probably all were, we were just young and innocent. We wanted to believe. But Ya seen one convention ya seen em all.

Yeah Bri, if I smoked dope I might have found tonight more interesting also.

I do like Michelle, but still don't want her husband for president.

Carol

You got that right Jack!

"It'd be funny if he just got up and said......"Vote for Barack.......Thank you and good night.""

lol
That it would and would be so out of character that I would recommend checking his brain out for strange lump.

Jack

yep......you seen one McCarthy, Humphrey, McGovern, Carter-Kennedy, Mondale, Dukakis, Gore Dean, and Kerry, you seen 'em all..........

Just got an email from a old friend, David Gipp.. Interesting.

"I will be giving a (3 minute) speech at the Democratic National Convention, main podium, on August 26 (Tuesday), somewhere between 3:00 - 3:30 p.m. (Mountain Daylight Time), Denver, CO. It appears I am one of one or one of very few to speak at the convention. I was recommended by Sen. Barrack Obama. So, am busy submitting the statement ahead of time and trying to cover the waterfront on education, treaties, sovereignty, econ. development, etc. & assure it makes some kind of sense." --D Gipp

I liked her dress. hair and make-up. She looked great.

Remind us tomorrow Rez. The only way we are likely to see it is if we go over to C-SPAN

"I thought is was odd that Kennedy didn't mention Biden at all."
In retrospect it was odd, he seemed winded a few times, perhaps he started to conserve his words.

who is David Gipp, Barack's yard man? Seems like everyone who knows him will be speaking.

Now we know why all of those cows are marching by in line: They have a compass

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-science/20080825/SCI.Cow.Compass/

Jamie,
You have to install the helper app but you can watch the action live from the dnc site. It was simple, probably need broadband too.

Carville - "If this Party has a message its done one hell of a job hiding it tonight."

OSH
Come to think about it the last one was just as bad.

Did get one good story out of it.

I was sitting in bed and my parrot was sitting on my stomach demanding I groom him, when Reverend Al started his speech. The bird turned his attention to Al Sharpton listen a bit then went to be bottom of the bed. While stareing at Reverend Al, he did a little mateing strut in front of the TV.
That bird does love Reverend Al

Jack

Sorry folks, you'll just have to forgive me for not joining in your dourness, I thought it a fine evening for Democrats.

The Dems should have hired the Chinese director of the opening/closing of the olympics. At least hired him for a few hours as a consultant on how to put on an entertaining show that can convey a message.

Who the fuck are you ct.? Sorry, I haven't had the pleasure of your acquaintance. roflmfao.

Jack- lol
Do you all watch the GOP conventions too? I never have, imagine its all just more of the same.

Rez,

I am just a grit, girl raised in the south. I used to love politics but not anymore. I do still enjoy reading this blog.

Carol

No - the repugs drill their message home from day one. It's a bunch of lies and/or fear-mongering. But they never give up. They beleive that if you say something often enough, it makes it true. And it has worked.

OSH

I used to watch both of them.
For all the boring speeches, the convention will usually lay out the campaign's message going into the fall campaign.

Jack

In that case, David Gipp is an old friend who happens to still be involved in community politics and he was just giving me a head's up on his appearance in Denver. i enjoy reading here too.

If you want to subscribe you can read this article by David Frum.

"He may be the most unpopular president in modern times: a reckless, unilateralist cowboy. But history will be kinder to George W. Bush than contemporary caricatures."

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/

I think I'll pass, not into fiction tonight.

Jack

NEW THREAD

Patsi; 10:14 pm ........Thanks very much for the link, I wish I knew how...............

Carol; 10:31 pm ......."these 2 turkeys" Carol. you read my mind, I totally agree, you'd think they could do better for almost a billion bucks...........................

Sturgeone; 11:19 pm....."you've seen one, you've seen them all," and now another one, bummer..........

The "show" tonight was, as I suspected an indoctrination - All about Us (the obama's ego) and nothing about you - as in energy policy, mortgage crisis, the wars. This is supposed to be a political convention, yes??

Jack;.......... I really wish big Dawg would just walk and leave the mutt hanging.............................

Rita