Sneaky of you, Craig, to put this thread up midday on a Saturday! Apparently no one was expecting it, but this late riser managed to walk right into it. I'll go get the gang!
Old media dethroned
Edwards' admission signals the end of the era in which traditional media set the limits of acceptable political journalism.
August 9, 2008
"When John Edwards admitted Friday that he lied about his affair with filmmaker Rielle Hunter, a former employee of his campaign, he may have ended his public life but he certainly ratified an end to the era in which traditional media set the agenda for national political journalism." http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-newrutten9-2008aug09,0,3175773.column
Russians and Georgians are killing each other. Putin is laying claim with missles to S. Ossetia. Georgia is withdrawing it's soldiers from Iraq to bring them home for the fight.
George Bush is playing beach volleyball and women's softball in China.
Can we please have the swearing in of the new Prez immediately after the election, and do we have to have a campaign before the election? Let's schedule everything early.
McCain obviously has a strategy and so far it is obviously working. Event the most Koolaid drinking Obama supporter knows this. They usually call McCain names for it. but that is just proof it works.
I get the feeling that the Republicans aren't even in drive yet.
They're still coasting.
Craig, I think their ad is trying to get swing voters and Democrats to vote for him. They figure they already have the Republicans, no matter what they say.
Good to get a second viewing of Craig's interview. Keith was actually less long-winded than I'd thought, giving Craig a good chance to express his thoughts. His observations about McCain's lack of strategy contribute to me increasingly regarding McCain's nomination as "the accidental candidacy."
The whole McCain campaign just looks plain pathetic. You really have to be a total knee jerk Republican no matter what to vote for him. The commercials are all over the place, poorly made, and lack a theme or focus.
The candidate has to go crowd hunting to even give a speech.
Richardson just got mentioned in passing on the Veepstakes. Considering the Edwards endorsement, it makes me wonder if the Obama camp doesn't have Richardson pictures as well. He did endorse after saying that he wouldn't endorse either Obama or Clinton.
It would be funny if the only person Axlerod couldn't get out of the race via blackmail was Hillary.
I watched some of Anderson Cooper last night. One of the guests said "Thank God Edwards didn't end up being the Democratic party's candidate for President. Think of how much trouble the party would be in right now."
"It isn't a matter of "enjoyment". D women just have a better grasp of reality than R women seem to have or at least admit to having. Men behaving badly is not a wonderful thing, but it is something to be dealt with. You either resolve it or leave it"
Oh yeah that's right it was you who said that. Couldn't remember if it was you or Sheila.
Not not really Jamie, most women just stick around and accept the BS lies, the lame excuses they are being spooned feed, they tend to over look the very obvious signs of a cheating husband to avoid confrontation, or acknowledge the truth their husband has been slip sliding away with another female, a younger female, a better looking female, etc.. They become so beaten down, so demoralized, they lose whatever self confidence they ever had, by the actions of these cheating males they call husbands and fathers, they know no where else to go, they feel struck unable to move, they sink under their own weight of guilt and indecision. It is just another form of abuse wrapped up with different paper. You can try to rationalize away this all you want, try to paint it with a new color, use a new brush, the truth is these women have been abused. I personally see this stuff come across my desk everyday of the week, and 95% of the time the ending is always the same. The wife goes back to the cheat, and guess what, he cheats again because he knows nothing will happen to him, he fully understands that psychologically his wife has been reduce to that of a puddle of water. What is so typical here of most of the D females is this; because Edwards was once a leading D in their eyes, they are trying to somehow justify Edwards' bad behavior by sighting the same type of bad behavior committed by some R's. Trying to award bad behavior by sighting another's bad behavior is pretty much a self defeating task. In the end all you have to look up to is an example of bad behavior.
"They become so beaten down, so demoralized, they lose whatever self confidence they ever had, by the actions of these cheating males they call husbands and fathers, they know no where else to go, they feel struck unable to move, they sink under their own weight of guilt and indecision. It is just another form of abuse wrapped up with different paper." http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/08/mccains-mavericktude.html#comment-126253
Fry,
I don't think these women know they have a choice. And many of them start believe the abusive things they're told repeatedly. The alternative, in their view, is the unknown.
If women (people) would only keep in mind that they always have choices, their lives would change immediately.
Fry,
Is it possible that Elizabeth loves John more than (or as much as) herself?
She's a practical woman. She loves her children and husband. She's dying of cancer. She's not breaking up her family. He made a mistake. A big one. But I don't think he abuses her in other ways. Now that's definitely not an excuse. But it's reality.
If what you say is true, then there are a whole lot of demoralized, pathetic Republican women than there are Democratic ones. Back in my real activist days, I know there were a whole lot more cheating R's than D's. One of the standing jokes was guessing who would come out of who's rooms if the fire alarm went off in the middle of the night.
Certainly there are women who stay in marriages because they just don't know what to do with their lives if they aren't half of a pair. There are a lot more who think the marriage has value beyond sex and is worth fighting for. Heck, I've even known ones where the couple had a sort of "straying contract" that didn't disturb the marriage at all.
None of those would be my preference but whatever gets you through life.
Only meaningless to you. This story is much more than a cheating husband. There are several stories which have yet to be aired, but soon will be. 1. Campaign money and how it was used or misused. 2. Then there is this little matter of a criminal complaint flied by the National Enquirer. Oh I keep forgetting Brina that you were waving your pom-poms for Edwards back in Oct. Come on Brain gives us another Edwards cheer. Your have have to be so proud of your hero that he is once again of the front page of every newspaper.
Fry you're acting like a drug addict who found some free smack. Edwards is not running for anything, there is no story here, this is a sad private matter.
Fry,
He doesn't think there's anything wrong with what Edwards did.
He hates women.
So why would you be concerned about a man mistreating what you already hate anyway.
I guess the best strategy is no strategy at all. But maybe you do not need one to beat Obama. He will beat himself. He flies around in "APPEASEMENT ONE" and his VP choice will fly "WITHDRAWAL TWO" Paris Hilton has a "BETTER" energy plan then Obama. If fact she knows more about the economic than OBAMA. The Gallup daily tracking has him neck and neck with McCain.
John Edwards is back in the news. "BILL" is being "BILL" Nancy Pelosi is makin Republicans in Congress look good, and last but not least Obama has to pick a VP.
CNN just advertised where all our list job hunters need to go:
Stanley, ND
Small town, farming community, that they just discovered is sitting on a billion or so barrels of oil.
Anyway, they are growing so fast that they need just about anyone able to do anything.
Pausing today to remember Jerry Garcia (August 1, 1942 - August 9, 1995). What a not-very-long strange trip it was. Maybe some music-folks here will put up a tune or two...
Fry you're acting like a drug addict who found some free smack. Edwards is not running for anything, there is no story here, this is a sad private matter.
He accuses someone else of acting like as Brianesquely.
And then he rushes in a non sequitor to deny his own past...
As he hastens to add that Edwards isn't running for something though he was running for President with Brian's fulsome support with many claims of "Mark My Words! John Edwards Will Be The Next President Of The United States" --
As though that never happened.
As though Edwards had not run with his family as props.
As though Edwards had not publicized his wife's illness with the "here is all this endless information about my wife's cancer -- but don't vote for us out of empathy for US -- and here is some more information and intimate coverage of my family".
As though all of that never happened and this was all a private matter.
As though he had never called Jamie a racist.
Here's a funny from yesterday.
I'll start with a one off-er.
Patsi when I'm interested in the skank point of view I'll let you know.
Aw. What a gentymum your palsy-walsy is, Unlikely Burrito.
But he makes track marks from there in such a silly way.
Fry I never realized what a gossipy old woman at heart you are Hours ago you said you didn't give a shit about the Edwards affair, and all you've done is prattle away with the rest of the hens for hours.
Add to that his endless statements about women here being witches with broomsticks (the origin of which was pagan women walking away from men and making their own dildos).
Wouldn't that type of characterizing applied just a little further make his own tight circle of dames lonely old hags with a fag?
Wouldn't Brian call them something quite near to that if they were dancing in a circle around someone who wasn't Brian?
What do you think, Unlikely Burrito?
If you weren't in his clique... and were in another... wouldn't you get called some woman loathing names?
Chloe,
Ever since I have been here, Brian has been labeled a fool by most who have come and gone from this blog. He is a committed socialist, and that is all you really need to know about him. He loves America's enemies, but will never move to those places, because they don't offer the quality of life America provides. Brian is pretty much the hypocrite.
Is it possible that Elizabeth loves John more than (or as much as) herself?"
I, myself adore and think the world of Elizabeth Edwards. And I don't doubt for a minute her love for John, and that she will keep the family together as best she can, for as long as she can. Having said that, if Elizabeth was a healthy woman I think she and the children would be packing up and moving on with their lives minus 1 John Edwards.
Brian is hardly a fool. Hard to take sometimes and he does his ideas and candidate no good with his attacking others.
But he is not a fool. Others fit that role on this blog, by enabling a double standard of behavior.
Attack Brian, good.
Attack Patsi, who can be just as mean: bad.
Both Brian and Patsi are highly intelligent and have many redeeming qualities, but snap too often. Often because they were provoked, but sometimes without provocation. One gets baited a lot more than the other.
One is a pariah, one has Jamie and others singing out in tribute and ignoring any inconvenient behavior.
One provided a generously written "Summer of Love" post, and frequently makes friendly appearances, but is constantly defined by bad behavior only. Inconvenient to see that this one is more rounded a character.
Hypocritical? What do you think?
I'm not comfortable with it. I regret not intervening more in grade school when others ganged up on the kids that did not fit.
I think that if you tallied up all the times Patsi has written anything vicious about another person without provocation and then tallied up all the times Brian has written something vicious without provocation (in fact just as a form of greeting), the Brian list would take days to read and the patsi list could be handled in one short post.
If you then wrote all the nice things I have said about Sen. Obama and wrote all the nice things Brian has said about Sen. Clinton, my list would be extensive and his would consist of one Summer of Love post that is still being praised simply because it was unique.
I just happen to believe the 2:09 post is true. Patsi doesn't waltz in here and greet everyone with an insult, nor leave with a simiar action. Quite frankly Brian doesn't bother me at all any more unless he attacks someone else. These days I just consider him a sad pathetic man who only feels good about himself when he is tearing down others.
Unlike both "Ghost" and "For The Record" or any of the other hide behind and alias folks, I always only post under my own name. Patsi does the same. I believe that you take responsibility for everything you write.
Gail Collins sums up the Edwards debacle pretty neatly.
Liked Edwards the candidate, and suspect he's a better man when he's around Elizabeth, but Collins is on target in assessing his contributions to the "annals of weaseldom."
Yeah, Gail Collins gets it right more often than many columnists. And she is not a drive by writer. (Think Maureen Dowd and David Brooks belong to that category.) Like her work a lot. Level headed and a good sense of fairness.
I could be wrong, but there have been some dustups where the aliases were popping all over the place so he either has a twin, alter ego, or obsessive fan because it sure read as if he were cheerleading himself.
After reading this from factcheck.org, it's a good thing that McCain is no longer at Annapolis, for if he was, I think he would have been expelled for multiple honor code violations...
McCain pretty much admits to his lack of study and running around while at Annapolis. That is is no big secret. But what I haven't heard much about is BHO's accomplishments. Other than being against the war in Iraq before he was a US Senator.
My freakin lord...this page is as bad as Days of Our Lives. On that soap, you can tune in every 5 years to find Brady's at war with the Dimera's, dorks with bad mullets or feathered hair wearing atrocious suits, or aging women with bad plastic surgery wearing matronly outfits, bad jewelry and poorly stuffed bras...don't even get me started on the incestuous family connections...
That's no different than the constant pissing match going on here...
Since it's a cross gender/sexuality battle, may I suggest some sort of contest where you can do your penis envy type contests or can you just hook up already and get it out of your collective systems?
It's much more pleasant to read a GORDO post and wonder why his stuff comes from anti Obama jews than to have to read about who is a prick, who's rude, who can' or can't get laid...etc...
the one and only reason for this comment section's turning into a garbage-dumping "soap opera" is Brian and his little circle of enablers.....ie defenders......It's not about obama, nor mccain.......it's all about brian......he's a sad sick little non-entity who gets to parade around here as if he were somebody and his opinions mounted to something more than a pile of manure on the pavement behind the carriage horse......
that and his constant delusions of adequacy.
Im going to now be thru with the subject while said Brian will continue to post with his past verve because he's oblivious to the fact of his being such a colossal bore.......
Joining group hug for Elizabeth. Would LOVE to see her speak at Convention, on the importance of getting healthcare right. She is such a force for change on that front.
Flatus and Sturge: how's SC today? Gorgeous and sunny and breezy here in DC area. Out on deck not getting any yardwork done!
could it be that ms. hunter, a "filmaker" according to wapo, might have shot the infamous hair-cut ditty and then leaked it in a state of pique?... a woman scorned and all that drivel.
bear, i thoroughly agree that "It's much more pleasant to read a GORDO post and wonder why his stuff comes from anti Obama jews than to have to read about who is a prick, who's rude, who can' or can't get laid...etc..."
Dog, it was in the middle 60s this morning. Waited until most of the neighbors were awake, then did the yard. It's only in the middle 80s now--a welcome respite!
If she could get them closer to the Clinton plan I would be thrilled; our healthcare will still be third-world for tens of millions until we make universal healthcare the law.
I need some help here. On August 7th, Michelle (My Belle) Obama while being interviwed on Good Morning America, said the following about BHO.
"You know, this is the kid who was raised by a single mother who didn't have access to many resources, who, you know, has walked away his entire life from lucrative careers to work in the community."
I thought it was his grandparents who raised him? Oh whatever.
I guess maybe with all the hoopla the MSM has been heaping on BHO, one hoopla starts sounding like the last hoopla, so I may have missed this one. What lucrative careers has BHO walked away from to work in the community"? We know Michelle didn't walk away from them, but she is saying BHO did. Please enlighten me about the enlighten one's lucrative careers, can't seem to find mention of those anywhere. Of course the good people at Good Morning America, never bother to ask what lucrative careers she was referring to.
Yeah, it seems the Clinton plan is better. Most important, though, is winning the White House and having a bully pulpit for improving healthcare; otherwise it will be Congressional leaders and a recalcitrant president. Seems people listen more to the president than congress.
Yeah, it seems the Clinton plan is better. Most important, though, is winning the White House and having a bully pulpit for improving healthcare; otherwise it will be Congressional leaders and a recalcitrant president. Seems people listen more to the president than congress.
--Dog's
Dog .......perhaps you should explain that to brian. He seems more intent on alienating people from obama. At any rate, that's the fact, if not the intent.
Clinton team internal memos referring to BHO as "unelectable." 130 of them willl be published online by the Atlantic Monthly this Monday. Not sure BHO will take kindly to some of these. When is BHO going to go to Hawaii?
That Obama commercial is great. His team makes the McCain team look like a high school beginning video class.
Dog,
The difference in the health plans was why Elizabeth didn't endorse Obama. She didn't go against her husband to endorse Clinton, but you know which plan she preferred and person she liked best.
what i dont understand is why elizabeth edwards went along with John's plan to run for president knowing of this campaign killing fact in his past....i understand that it's not such a big deal in the context of a long life of service and hard work, but the fact remains it would kill any chance for winning any election.......how could they think that this would not ever see the light of day?
He's in Hawaii now. I wouldn't worry about the memos unless someone used language worse than unelectable.. Some of the Obama memos against the Clintons were equally bad. It's just campaigning and lower level staff writing stuff.
Elizabeth Edwards a few months back, maybe even more, took exception to one of BHO's speeches on health care as coming directly off John Edwards' playbook.
Fry: the Clinton team underestimated Obama from the word go, and overestimated their own strategy and inevitability. That said, there are probably some astute passages in them too.
It will be interesting to read those memos, because am sure they contain some interesting and useful material. Detrimental too. But look forward to their being published -- they might be helpful to historians and writers.
PS: for the geographic roundup: how's NC today? You gotten a vacation yet this summer?
Sturgeone,
how could they think that this would not ever see the light of day?'
John Edwards said it best, "In the course of several campaigns, I started to believe that I was special and became increasingly egocentric and narcissistic." He thought he was invincible.
NC clear blue skies today. Hope it is nice tonight as we are suppose to go out boating. Not mine, a friends. I gave up owning a boat after I learned it took almost the same amount of time to keep the boat looking good as it did my home. Sold boat.
Vacation? Yes Vegas. Sin City. Here we come in late September.
Stinky and I took a one day vacation on Thursday. Thought about all the places we wanted to go, got in the car and drove down to the new Cracker Barrel a couple of miles away from here. Had lunch, drove back home, and took a nap. Perfect.
If anyone is considering on purchasing a boat you should know the cost of up-keeping a boat per year use to be roughly 10% of the original cost, but that was before gas tripled. I would think today that cost is 15%.
Finally. The difference between a boat and a ship? You can put a boat on a ship, you could never, nor would you want to, put a ship on a boat.
but then, Clinton's affairs came to light before the election........and they rose over it.....so what the hell..........you just never know........of course, they were Clintons not Edwards........
As evening approaches more Obamaiacs come out. So I'll re-ask my question of 3:59 PM today.
What lucrative careers has BHO walked away from to work in the community? Michelle made this statement on August 7, 2008 while being interviewed on Good Morning America.
And when are these town hall meetings going to start?
I'll be back tomorrow to see if anyone has an answer to my question. If you do know the answer to this question you may want to post somewhere on the net as no one else knows what she, she being Michelle, is talking about. Unless she means he could have had a lucrative career if only he had applied for them. But Michelle didn't use the world ":could", she used the words, "walked away". Meaning he was offered these position, but didn't accept them.
it's my guess, Fry, that Michelle thinks it's obvious that Obama could have had a lucrative career in almost any field he might have chosen.......which is probably true, all things considered........
Thanks for those Dead-tubes, Jamie. I think the blonde girl on "Touch of Grey" at 1:55 coulda been me!! (lol)
Btw, I was held accountable for the premature death of Jerry Garcia because I wouldn't let my teenage son take off to any Grateful Dead concerts. I don't know if the band was actually touring or planning a tour during that time period, but my son was mounting a campaign to get to one. My standard delaying tactic on such requests was "Not until you're 18."
On this occasion, my son replied, "But Jerry's OLD - I have to see him NOW because he's going to DIE."
"Oh, poo," I scoffed, "He's not old, and besides he'll live forever." About two weeks later, Jerry died.
I took me little daughter to a Dead concert at Raliegh in 91.....we had to park way the hell away from the stadium in parking lot Triple Z (so to speak)......well ...pulled up next to me was a black rental continental from Philly with one young feller wearing what appeared to be a "sharkskin suit" and his sidekick in sandals, t-shirt and shorts......they cracked the trunk open revealing two big containers of NO2......nitrous oxide.......he broke out 2 packs of large balloons and soon had a line of Deadheads leading to the trunk of his car........so for $5 a baloon, he was busy for 2 days as fast as the sidekick could fill the balloons........
Occasionally, Obama has indicated that he has a weak sense of American history. He didn’t seem to know that the Cold War was not a time when the world was standing as one. He didn’t know the history of presidential summits and seems to think that FDR and Truman met with our nation’s enemies. He didn’t know how the Nuremberg Trials worked. And I’m not even talking about his mistake that Americans liberated Auschwitz.
But I think his remark when the little girl asked him why he decided to run for president and he gave this response.
“America is …, uh, is no longer, uh … what it could be, what it once was. And I say to myself, I don’t want that future for my children.”
As you watch the video, it’s clear that he formed his words carefully and was thinking about how to answer the little girl.
"Occasionally, Obama has indicated that he has a weak sense of American history. He didn’t seem to know that the Cold War was not a time when the world was standing as one. He didn’t know the history of presidential summits and seems to think that FDR and Truman met with our nation’s enemies. He didn’t know how the Nuremberg Trials worked. And I’m not even talking about his mistake that Americans liberated Auschwitz."
In 1993 Obama joined Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, a 12-attorney law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development, where he was an associate for three years from 1993 to 1996, then of counsel from 1996 to 2004, with his law license becoming inactive in 2002.
The firm was well-known among influential Chicago liberals and leaders of the black community, and the firm's Judson H. Miner, who met with Obama to recruit him before Obama's 1991 graduation from law school, had been counsel to former Chicago Mayor Harold Washington, although the law firm often clashed with the administration of Mayor Richard M. Daley.
The 29-year-old law student made it clear in his initial interview with Miner that he was more interested in joining the firm to learn about Chicago politics than to practice law.
Chloe - you asked me about re-registering with a different name and email address. I did that once but it made no difference. I think the problem is that activating my account(?) doesn't get done. It tells me to click on a web site for activation, but that web site doesn't exist. After corresponding with six apart several times, they told me I was activated and it worked for a month or two.
So I re-registered and can't get it activated. I finally did find an acceptable web site google recognized, clicked on it, and got the "sorry this page is not available" thing.
See why I'm so frustrated? I will go try again so I can say with certainty that it doesn't work. Wait right there, ok? (HA!) Here is one of the messages I have received:
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Oh, well, I was just on several other screens and one of them might work for bethypoo. As my father used to say, this is most likely cockpit trouble (me), but there is such a gulf!
Thanks, Chloe, You're inspiring me to try again.
Anyway, I didn't see all of the oopening ceremony but what I did saw was literally breath-taking. I love Chinese history, but find the sheer size of the country un-settling, un-nerving - not bad, mind you, but .............
maybe un-imaginable.
A lot of you are writing about the Edwards' affair. I think the part that bothers
me isn't the morality question as much as the long term cover-up. Also,
what irks me is the money question. Ms. Hunter has been receiving thousands of dollars for many months from someone associated with Edwards, if not Edwards.
As I said to a wealthy friend of mine who gambled a lot of money
away in Vegas, "If you would only give even a small part of the cash you
throw away gambling to animal charities, I would respect you more."
(My friend did start donating to some animal shelters I suggested.)
It just seems that Edwards and his donors who have been financially supporting Reille Hunter in luxury could find more worthy places to put that money like maybe channel it to the poor folks that Edwards was so fond of pointing to during his run for president.
Sorry you're still having trouble with type key. You can try the following.:
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There you will find an activation code from them.
Copy that code, then go back to the typekey page you minimized and paste that activation code into the slot that asks for it.
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It just seems that Edwards and his donors who have been financially supporting Reille Hunter in luxury could find more worthy places to put th at money like maybe channel it to the poor folks that Edwards was so fond of pointing to during his run for president.Posted by: prof marcia | August 9, 2008 6:55
Hi marcia,
I agree with you. But I don't think they were giving her that money out of the kindness of their heart. It sounds more like hush money, maybe.
Another rhetorical question I posed to my husband last night as we were watching the extravagant but selective "history of China..."
"Doesn't Richard Nixon deserve some of the credit for this??"
And Nixon's also the one who said it's the "cover-up" that will get you. Lesson lost on John Edwards?
Patd........possible stalking horse is exactly the way I see McCain.........as to who will replace him.......that's up for grabs......but I see no way he will be the eventual nominee unless the gop just wants to lose for whatever reason, and there could be many reasons......
I haven't been commenting on the music you post here. But I have to say that you are consistently posting great music. So I've got to add one I like: Can't You See- Marshall Tucker Band
Maybe John Edwards is more decent than some folks believe. Maybe his decision to go ahead with his campaign after 2006 was an act of love. Maybe he was trying to fulfill his wife's dying wish -- to see him ensconced in the White House.
As for "using his family" to advance his chances, look at the Christmas cards you received over the last 10 years or so. How many of the senders that posed as "perfect" families for holiday photos are still together? How fooled were you by the idealized images suggested by those photos? And how many of the card senders who strayed were forced to abandon their careers because of an indiscretion?
I still believe in Senator Edwards (and Mrs. Edwards). They are far more authentic and far more able to relate to the electorate than, for instance, Mr. and Mrs. Bush (41 or 43), Mr.and Mrs. McCain or, for that matter, President and Mrs. Clinton.
It is time for the media to concentrate on all of the lies told by Mr. Bush (41 or 43) -- lies that actually have a material impact on our lives -- instead of rehashing the technically true but misleading denials issued by Senator Edwards.
Let's aim our anger/hostility/judgment at those who have truly let us down. The press should be taken to task for its misplaced priorities, its attempts to manipulate public opinion and its general laziness in terms of investigating anything of consequence.
Chloe - I'm going to wait till I see if I get any answers to questions I have left with them. It is my fault, I'm sure.
I don't mind his lying about it - who wouldn't? He took a big risk, tho, with our possible future.
IF this is the only time he's done this, I'm wondering if it isn't part of the turmoil going on in their lives. I have to think how to say what I want to.
If any of yoou watch As Time Goes By, do you remember how Lionel didn't want to share their story - he kept saying, "It's ours," and other people's problems were "theirs". That's pretty much how this strikes me. We have no idea what's been going on with them over the years. I'm sorry for all of them.
However, I never believed he hadn't messed around, long before the rumors started. Hunter doesn't seem to be very admirable.
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Last summer we helped my inlaws celebrate their 65th wedding anniversery. the Bob Wills number reminds me of all the music we found in the web.
One of my motherinlaws favorite was the Inkspots.
I can't believe how judgemental people can be. Lordy, we only get one kick at the can, folks. Our lives are a blip in time and space. We all, yes ALL, just do the best we can with what we got. We're all just stuck on this tiny ball in the sky that's circling a shinier ball. What if ya wake up tomorrow and it's all been some weird verrrry long-running movie? Who CARES what the Edwards are doing????
Jack:
my first week in boot camp was spent with a lot of time in our barracks waiting on things......there came a time when everyone had exhausted every known joke available and the only thing left which would get a laugh was plain and fancy farting......I took that to mean something, I'm just not sure what........
Comments
What? Nobody has anything to say?
Posted by: harborwoman
| August 9, 2008 12:10 PM
Sneaky of you, Craig, to put this thread up midday on a Saturday! Apparently no one was expecting it, but this late riser managed to walk right into it. I'll go get the gang!
Posted by: harborwoman
| August 9, 2008 12:14 PM
Sounds like Edwards won't be going to Denver.
Posted by: Corey
| August 9, 2008 12:15 PM
For reference:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/edwards_affair;_ylt=AtFezpqWETAKMYucf16wF9es0NUE
Posted by: Corey
| August 9, 2008 12:16 PM
Old media dethroned
Edwards' admission signals the end of the era in which traditional media set the limits of acceptable political journalism.
August 9, 2008
"When John Edwards admitted Friday that he lied about his affair with filmmaker Rielle Hunter, a former employee of his campaign, he may have ended his public life but he certainly ratified an end to the era in which traditional media set the agenda for national political journalism."
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-newrutten9-2008aug09,0,3175773.column
Posted by: chloe
| August 9, 2008 12:20 PM
LOL
at the two videos
Just another bunch of flip flopping democrats.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| August 9, 2008 12:20 PM
Craig,
You keep making me watch Olbermann.
Quite painful.
Posted by: chloe
| August 9, 2008 12:23 PM
Russians and Georgians are killing each other. Putin is laying claim with missles to S. Ossetia. Georgia is withdrawing it's soldiers from Iraq to bring them home for the fight.
George Bush is playing beach volleyball and women's softball in China.
Can we please have the swearing in of the new Prez immediately after the election, and do we have to have a campaign before the election? Let's schedule everything early.
Posted by: Jamie
| August 9, 2008 12:26 PM
Craig
Whats the deal,
McCain obviously has a strategy and so far it is obviously working. Event the most Koolaid drinking Obama supporter knows this. They usually call McCain names for it. but that is just proof it works.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| August 9, 2008 12:27 PM
I get the feeling that the Republicans aren't even in drive yet.
They're still coasting.
Craig, I think their ad is trying to get swing voters and Democrats to vote for him. They figure they already have the Republicans, no matter what they say.
Posted by: chloe
| August 9, 2008 12:29 PM
Jamie
Looks like the Bush russian expert, Condi Rice is not so much.
What a cluster f***
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| August 9, 2008 12:29 PM
If you are trying to keep track of what will be shown when or you want to watch replays on line, you can start here
http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/
Posted by: Jamie
| August 9, 2008 12:31 PM
Good to get a second viewing of Craig's interview. Keith was actually less long-winded than I'd thought, giving Craig a good chance to express his thoughts. His observations about McCain's lack of strategy contribute to me increasingly regarding McCain's nomination as "the accidental candidacy."
Posted by: Ivy Green | August 9, 2008 12:34 PM
The whole McCain campaign just looks plain pathetic. You really have to be a total knee jerk Republican no matter what to vote for him. The commercials are all over the place, poorly made, and lack a theme or focus.
The candidate has to go crowd hunting to even give a speech.
Posted by: Jamie
| August 9, 2008 12:35 PM
Richardson just got mentioned in passing on the Veepstakes. Considering the Edwards endorsement, it makes me wonder if the Obama camp doesn't have Richardson pictures as well. He did endorse after saying that he wouldn't endorse either Obama or Clinton.
It would be funny if the only person Axlerod couldn't get out of the race via blackmail was Hillary.
Posted by: Jamie
| August 9, 2008 12:37 PM
What's depressing is that McCain's running a terrible, campaign but is still polling ok.
Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
Daily Presidential Tracking PollThe Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday shows that the race for the White House is tied—Barack Obama and John McCain each attract 44% of the vote. When "leaners" are included, it’s McCain 47% and Obama 46%.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
Posted by: chloe
| August 9, 2008 12:40 PM
I watched some of Anderson Cooper last night. One of the guests said "Thank God Edwards didn't end up being the Democratic party's candidate for President. Think of how much trouble the party would be in right now."
Posted by: Corey
| August 9, 2008 12:42 PM
Sheila put this David Horsey cartoon up on Backchannel re McCain's strategy.
It would be funnier if it weren't so accurate. I worry it will work.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/horsey/viewbydate.asp?id=1801
Posted by: dog's eye view | August 9, 2008 12:43 PM
Jamie.
"It isn't a matter of "enjoyment". D women just have a better grasp of reality than R women seem to have or at least admit to having. Men behaving badly is not a wonderful thing, but it is something to be dealt with. You either resolve it or leave it"
Oh yeah that's right it was you who said that. Couldn't remember if it was you or Sheila.
Not not really Jamie, most women just stick around and accept the BS lies, the lame excuses they are being spooned feed, they tend to over look the very obvious signs of a cheating husband to avoid confrontation, or acknowledge the truth their husband has been slip sliding away with another female, a younger female, a better looking female, etc.. They become so beaten down, so demoralized, they lose whatever self confidence they ever had, by the actions of these cheating males they call husbands and fathers, they know no where else to go, they feel struck unable to move, they sink under their own weight of guilt and indecision. It is just another form of abuse wrapped up with different paper. You can try to rationalize away this all you want, try to paint it with a new color, use a new brush, the truth is these women have been abused. I personally see this stuff come across my desk everyday of the week, and 95% of the time the ending is always the same. The wife goes back to the cheat, and guess what, he cheats again because he knows nothing will happen to him, he fully understands that psychologically his wife has been reduce to that of a puddle of water. What is so typical here of most of the D females is this; because Edwards was once a leading D in their eyes, they are trying to somehow justify Edwards' bad behavior by sighting the same type of bad behavior committed by some R's. Trying to award bad behavior by sighting another's bad behavior is pretty much a self defeating task. In the end all you have to look up to is an example of bad behavior.
Posted by: FryDaddy
| August 9, 2008 12:45 PM
This piece regarding John Edwards by Kirsten Powers really surprised me. She's usually so fair with everyone (although I haven't watched in a while).
HE WAS ALWAYS A FAKE
"If it looks like a phony, walks like a phony, quacks like a phony, it's a phony.
There's nothing particularly shocking about a politician cheating, and there's even less shock in learning that Edwards has been lying through his teeth about his own affair. In fact, we should assume that his detailed timeline about the affair is likely just another lie."
http://www.nypost.com/seven/08092008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/he_was_always_a_fake_123661.htm
Posted by: chloe
| August 9, 2008 12:46 PM
Chloe,
Compare the 2 stories. Read what Edwards said or didn't say and what the Enquirer, a tabloid, reported.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=5544981&page=1
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/sen_john_edwards_caught_with_mistress_and_love_child_in_la_hotel/celebrity/65193
Posted by: FryDaddy
| August 9, 2008 12:53 PM
"They become so beaten down, so demoralized, they lose whatever self confidence they ever had, by the actions of these cheating males they call husbands and fathers, they know no where else to go, they feel struck unable to move, they sink under their own weight of guilt and indecision. It is just another form of abuse wrapped up with different paper."
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/08/mccains-mavericktude.html#comment-126253
Fry,
I don't think these women know they have a choice. And many of them start believe the abusive things they're told repeatedly. The alternative, in their view, is the unknown.
If women (people) would only keep in mind that they always have choices, their lives would change immediately.
Posted by: chloe
| August 9, 2008 12:58 PM
Fry you ever lose a legal case against Edwards? You're quite obsessed with this meaningless story.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| August 9, 2008 12:58 PM
Fry,
Is it possible that Elizabeth loves John more than (or as much as) herself?
She's a practical woman. She loves her children and husband. She's dying of cancer. She's not breaking up her family. He made a mistake. A big one. But I don't think he abuses her in other ways. Now that's definitely not an excuse. But it's reality.
Posted by: chloe
| August 9, 2008 1:03 PM
Frydaddy
If what you say is true, then there are a whole lot of demoralized, pathetic Republican women than there are Democratic ones. Back in my real activist days, I know there were a whole lot more cheating R's than D's. One of the standing jokes was guessing who would come out of who's rooms if the fire alarm went off in the middle of the night.
Certainly there are women who stay in marriages because they just don't know what to do with their lives if they aren't half of a pair. There are a lot more who think the marriage has value beyond sex and is worth fighting for. Heck, I've even known ones where the couple had a sort of "straying contract" that didn't disturb the marriage at all.
None of those would be my preference but whatever gets you through life.
Posted by: Jamie
| August 9, 2008 1:04 PM
Only meaningless to you. This story is much more than a cheating husband. There are several stories which have yet to be aired, but soon will be. 1. Campaign money and how it was used or misused. 2. Then there is this little matter of a criminal complaint flied by the National Enquirer. Oh I keep forgetting Brina that you were waving your pom-poms for Edwards back in Oct. Come on Brain gives us another Edwards cheer. Your have have to be so proud of your hero that he is once again of the front page of every newspaper.
Posted by: FryDaddy
| August 9, 2008 1:08 PM
Fry you're acting like a drug addict who found some free smack. Edwards is not running for anything, there is no story here, this is a sad private matter.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| August 9, 2008 1:11 PM
Fry,
He doesn't think there's anything wrong with what Edwards did.
He hates women.
So why would you be concerned about a man mistreating what you already hate anyway.
Posted by: chloe
| August 9, 2008 1:11 PM
Chloe I've seen you post some amazingly stupid things, but even for you that was stupid.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| August 9, 2008 1:17 PM
Chloe,
"She's dying of cancer"
Exactly. What affect does this type of behavior have on a person who is diagnosed with cancer. Does this strengthen or weaken the immune system?
Posted by: FryDaddy
| August 9, 2008 1:21 PM
I guess the best strategy is no strategy at all. But maybe you do not need one to beat Obama. He will beat himself. He flies around in "APPEASEMENT ONE" and his VP choice will fly "WITHDRAWAL TWO" Paris Hilton has a "BETTER" energy plan then Obama. If fact she knows more about the economic than OBAMA. The Gallup daily tracking has him neck and neck with McCain.
John Edwards is back in the news. "BILL" is being "BILL" Nancy Pelosi is makin Republicans in Congress look good, and last but not least Obama has to pick a VP.
VJ Machiavelli
http://www.vjmachiavelli.blogspot.com
Posted by: VJ Machiavelli
| August 9, 2008 1:21 PM
CNN just advertised where all our list job hunters need to go:
Stanley, ND
Small town, farming community, that they just discovered is sitting on a billion or so barrels of oil.
Anyway, they are growing so fast that they need just about anyone able to do anything.
http://www.stanleynd.com/
Posted by: Jamie
| August 9, 2008 1:22 PM
Fry,
You're right. I can't imagine it strengthening it.
Posted by: chloe
| August 9, 2008 1:23 PM
Pausing today to remember Jerry Garcia (August 1, 1942 - August 9, 1995). What a not-very-long strange trip it was. Maybe some music-folks here will put up a tune or two...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Garcia
Posted by: Ivy Green | August 9, 2008 1:25 PM
The Humor Deficit
McCain and Obama seem like funny guys, so why are their campaigns anything but?
http://nymag.com/news/imperialcity/49124/
Have a good day!
Posted by: chloe
| August 9, 2008 1:29 PM
Fry you're acting like a drug addict who found some free smack. Edwards is not running for anything, there is no story here, this is a sad private matter.
Posted by: BrianInNYC Author Profile Page | August 9, 2008 1:11 PM
The Brian Syndrome in one quick dump --
He accuses someone else of acting like as Brianesquely.
And then he rushes in a non sequitor to deny his own past...
As he hastens to add that Edwards isn't running for something though he was running for President with Brian's fulsome support with many claims of "Mark My Words! John Edwards Will Be The Next President Of The United States" --
As though that never happened.
As though Edwards had not run with his family as props.
As though Edwards had not publicized his wife's illness with the "here is all this endless information about my wife's cancer -- but don't vote for us out of empathy for US -- and here is some more information and intimate coverage of my family".
As though all of that never happened and this was all a private matter.
As though he had never called Jamie a racist.
Here's a funny from yesterday.
I'll start with a one off-er.
Patsi when I'm interested in the skank point of view I'll let you know.
Posted by: BrianInNYC Author Profile Page | August 8, 2008 5:55 PM
Aw. What a gentymum your palsy-walsy is, Unlikely Burrito.
But he makes track marks from there in such a silly way.
Fry I never realized what a gossipy old woman at heart you are Hours ago you said you didn't give a shit about the Edwards affair, and all you've done is prattle away with the rest of the hens for hours.
Posted by: BrianInNYC Author Profile Page | August 8, 2008 8:01 PM
Later on Dr. Crankenwienie makes a medical breakthrough:
"but I usually do not see Brian speaking to sturge...."
Cause I find him really really creepy, Patsi with a penis.
Posted by: BrianInNYC Author Profile Page | August 8, 2008 11:18 PM
So now we have "hens" combine with "cocks".
Add to that his endless statements about women here being witches with broomsticks (the origin of which was pagan women walking away from men and making their own dildos).
Wouldn't that type of characterizing applied just a little further make his own tight circle of dames lonely old hags with a fag?
Wouldn't Brian call them something quite near to that if they were dancing in a circle around someone who wasn't Brian?
What do you think, Unlikely Burrito?
If you weren't in his clique... and were in another... wouldn't you get called some woman loathing names?
Grow some frontal lobes, won't you?
Posted by: Ghost | August 9, 2008 1:33 PM
Collateral damage in the Edwards confession
"Barack Obama and the MSM ... will suffer significant collateral damage from the Edwards fallout.
A BIG Democrat, one of Obama's peers as candidate for president, is a phony.
The archetype of the phony populist, master manipulator of suckers, gets recharged, bigtime.
Voters puzzled by Obama are much more inclined to consider the hypothesis that Obama is a big phony too."
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/08/collateral_damage_in_the_edwar.html
Posted by: GORDO | August 9, 2008 1:34 PM
Looks like it's going to be idiots day on trail mush. later folks.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| August 9, 2008 1:34 PM
Chloe,
Ever since I have been here, Brian has been labeled a fool by most who have come and gone from this blog. He is a committed socialist, and that is all you really need to know about him. He loves America's enemies, but will never move to those places, because they don't offer the quality of life America provides. Brian is pretty much the hypocrite.
Posted by: FryDaddy
| August 9, 2008 1:34 PM
Here you go Ivy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NEE8oURdM0&feature=related
Posted by: Jamie
| August 9, 2008 1:36 PM
The Dead playing Me & Bobby McGee with some incredible guitar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovKkQoOfIpY&feature=related
Posted by: Jamie
| August 9, 2008 1:39 PM
Fry
You forgot espousing that all women should die via their heads blowing up the instant their youngest son reached 18.
I guess this was intended as a single generation project since all the children were to be male.
Posted by: Jamie
| August 9, 2008 1:44 PM
Chloe,
Is it possible that Elizabeth loves John more than (or as much as) herself?"
I, myself adore and think the world of Elizabeth Edwards. And I don't doubt for a minute her love for John, and that she will keep the family together as best she can, for as long as she can. Having said that, if Elizabeth was a healthy woman I think she and the children would be packing up and moving on with their lives minus 1 John Edwards.
Posted by: FryDaddy
| August 9, 2008 1:50 PM
Jamie,
No jamie you need a newer color. That old one has already been used and has pretty much been worn away.
Posted by: FryDaddy
| August 9, 2008 1:55 PM
What does that mean?
Posted by: Jamie
| August 9, 2008 2:00 PM
Brian is hardly a fool. Hard to take sometimes and he does his ideas and candidate no good with his attacking others.
But he is not a fool. Others fit that role on this blog, by enabling a double standard of behavior.
Attack Brian, good.
Attack Patsi, who can be just as mean: bad.
Both Brian and Patsi are highly intelligent and have many redeeming qualities, but snap too often. Often because they were provoked, but sometimes without provocation. One gets baited a lot more than the other.
One is a pariah, one has Jamie and others singing out in tribute and ignoring any inconvenient behavior.
One provided a generously written "Summer of Love" post, and frequently makes friendly appearances, but is constantly defined by bad behavior only. Inconvenient to see that this one is more rounded a character.
Hypocritical? What do you think?
I'm not comfortable with it. I regret not intervening more in grade school when others ganged up on the kids that did not fit.
Don't like to see it here either.
Posted by: for the record | August 9, 2008 2:01 PM
Jamie,
I was going to ask you the same thing, about your previous post: Heads blowing up
Posted by: FryDaddy
| August 9, 2008 2:04 PM
I think that if you tallied up all the times Patsi has written anything vicious about another person without provocation and then tallied up all the times Brian has written something vicious without provocation (in fact just as a form of greeting), the Brian list would take days to read and the patsi list could be handled in one short post.
If you then wrote all the nice things I have said about Sen. Obama and wrote all the nice things Brian has said about Sen. Clinton, my list would be extensive and his would consist of one Summer of Love post that is still being praised simply because it was unique.
Posted by: Jamie
| August 9, 2008 2:09 PM
for the record,
A "fool' doesn't equal "stupid", it does mean foolish, and sometimes childlike behavior, as in 'it is my ball and I'm going home.'
Posted by: FryDaddy
| August 9, 2008 2:10 PM
Jamie: that comment by Brian last night was awful, but he was in a bad frame of mind and it seemed to me that he was in pain.
So pardon me if I don't admire you for storing up the insult and feeding on it.
It's not an admirable trait of yours.
Posted by: dog's eye view | August 9, 2008 2:12 PM
dog
I didn't write the list above. I don't save his comments. I just remembered that one item from yesterday as being particularly nauseating.
Posted by: Jamie
| August 9, 2008 2:13 PM
Jamie: keep telling yourself that. Might make it true.
Posted by: dog's eye view | August 9, 2008 2:14 PM
Jamie: I don't think you're "ghost." You are much classier than ghost. I was referring to your 2:09 post.
Posted by: dog's eye view | August 9, 2008 2:17 PM
I just happen to believe the 2:09 post is true. Patsi doesn't waltz in here and greet everyone with an insult, nor leave with a simiar action. Quite frankly Brian doesn't bother me at all any more unless he attacks someone else. These days I just consider him a sad pathetic man who only feels good about himself when he is tearing down others.
Posted by: Jamie
| August 9, 2008 2:26 PM
Oh and Dog,
Unlike both "Ghost" and "For The Record" or any of the other hide behind and alias folks, I always only post under my own name. Patsi does the same. I believe that you take responsibility for everything you write.
I doubt Brian can make the same claim.
Posted by: Jamie
| August 9, 2008 2:31 PM
Gail Collins sums up the Edwards debacle pretty neatly.
Liked Edwards the candidate, and suspect he's a better man when he's around Elizabeth, but Collins is on target in assessing his contributions to the "annals of weaseldom."
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/09/opinion/09collins.html?ref=opinion
Posted by: dog's eye view | August 9, 2008 2:31 PM
dog,
That Collins op ed is perfect.
Posted by: Jamie
| August 9, 2008 2:46 PM
I have never known Brian to post under any other name. I give him credit for showing up here under his own.
Posted by: dog's eye view | August 9, 2008 2:49 PM
Yeah, Gail Collins gets it right more often than many columnists. And she is not a drive by writer. (Think Maureen Dowd and David Brooks belong to that category.) Like her work a lot. Level headed and a good sense of fairness.
Posted by: dog's eye view | August 9, 2008 2:52 PM
I could be wrong, but there have been some dustups where the aliases were popping all over the place so he either has a twin, alter ego, or obsessive fan because it sure read as if he were cheerleading himself.
Posted by: Jamie
| August 9, 2008 2:56 PM
Craig,
I love the paintball reference...lol
After reading this from factcheck.org, it's a good thing that McCain is no longer at Annapolis, for if he was, I think he would have been expelled for multiple honor code violations...
http://www.newsweek.com/id/151621/page/1
Posted by: Bear
| August 9, 2008 2:57 PM
I don't use aliases jamie, and your assertions about your sister in victimhood never started trouble is absurd.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| August 9, 2008 2:59 PM
dog's eye view,
As you brought up the quality, please describe Brian's "class" on this blog.
And pray do not offer high minded examples of it from off here.
Here is here -- here is where he is abusive, narcissistic and brays, yawns and flees.
(Maybe he needs a "flee collar" to keep him here when he is confronted with his own words. Quite recently he denied ever calling Jamie a racist.)
Posted by: Ghost | August 9, 2008 2:59 PM
Bear,
McCain pretty much admits to his lack of study and running around while at Annapolis. That is is no big secret. But what I haven't heard much about is BHO's accomplishments. Other than being against the war in Iraq before he was a US Senator.
Posted by: FryDaddy
| August 9, 2008 3:03 PM
Ah yes, Another flattering Brian sobriquet
"Sister in Victimhood".
Posted by: Jamie
| August 9, 2008 3:04 PM
I don't think that's Brian's style. He rather enjoys taking Trail Mix on in person. As you can tell.
Posted by: dog's eye view | August 9, 2008 3:05 PM
Ghost, you're a nag. I'm not dealing with you.
Jack or 9/11.
Posted by: dog's eye view | August 9, 2008 3:06 PM
My freakin lord...this page is as bad as Days of Our Lives. On that soap, you can tune in every 5 years to find Brady's at war with the Dimera's, dorks with bad mullets or feathered hair wearing atrocious suits, or aging women with bad plastic surgery wearing matronly outfits, bad jewelry and poorly stuffed bras...don't even get me started on the incestuous family connections...
That's no different than the constant pissing match going on here...
Since it's a cross gender/sexuality battle, may I suggest some sort of contest where you can do your penis envy type contests or can you just hook up already and get it out of your collective systems?
It's much more pleasant to read a GORDO post and wonder why his stuff comes from anti Obama jews than to have to read about who is a prick, who's rude, who can' or can't get laid...etc...
Posted by: Bear
| August 9, 2008 3:07 PM
"In person?"
He denies everything he ever says.
And you join him in that.
Kind of makes me happy some people don't have kids.
Posted by: Ghost | August 9, 2008 3:09 PM
Bear's right.
Posted by: dog's eye view | August 9, 2008 3:09 PM
Damn this is dump, I'm going to go watch some swimming.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| August 9, 2008 3:11 PM
Neither. I was here before you or either of those guys.
Then again... you can't get Brian right either.
And now, clearly, neither of you are so good at figuring out gender.
I guess The Barack Channel Blog is the home for poor reading comprehension.
Enjoy yourself.
Off on my broomstick.
Posted by: Ghost | August 9, 2008 3:12 PM
dumb, not dump.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| August 9, 2008 3:12 PM
Bon voyage.
Posted by: dog's eye view | August 9, 2008 3:17 PM
More DOOL lol
Seems It is human.
Condi Rice Admits to Crush on Denzel Washington
http://www.wowowow.com/post/condoleezza-rice-iran-iraq-denzel-washington-nfl-76877
Posted by: Rezdog
| August 9, 2008 3:21 PM
Well, just finished another nap and found a new thread along with more mention of Elizabeth Edwards.
Right about now I bet she could use a quiet, gentle group hug.
Anyone want to join in?
Posted by: Flatus
| August 9, 2008 3:37 PM
the one and only reason for this comment section's turning into a garbage-dumping "soap opera" is Brian and his little circle of enablers.....ie defenders......It's not about obama, nor mccain.......it's all about brian......he's a sad sick little non-entity who gets to parade around here as if he were somebody and his opinions mounted to something more than a pile of manure on the pavement behind the carriage horse......
that and his constant delusions of adequacy.
Im going to now be thru with the subject while said Brian will continue to post with his past verve because he's oblivious to the fact of his being such a colossal bore.......
Posted by: sturgeone | August 9, 2008 3:38 PM
http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1185304443/bctid1717903009
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| August 9, 2008 3:40 PM
Joining group hug for Elizabeth. Would LOVE to see her speak at Convention, on the importance of getting healthcare right. She is such a force for change on that front.
Flatus and Sturge: how's SC today? Gorgeous and sunny and breezy here in DC area. Out on deck not getting any yardwork done!
Posted by: dog's eye view | August 9, 2008 3:47 PM
could it be that ms. hunter, a "filmaker" according to wapo, might have shot the infamous hair-cut ditty and then leaked it in a state of pique?... a woman scorned and all that drivel.
bear, i thoroughly agree that "It's much more pleasant to read a GORDO post and wonder why his stuff comes from anti Obama jews than to have to read about who is a prick, who's rude, who can' or can't get laid...etc..."
Posted by: patd | August 9, 2008 3:53 PM
Dog, it was in the middle 60s this morning. Waited until most of the neighbors were awake, then did the yard. It's only in the middle 80s now--a welcome respite!
If she could get them closer to the Clinton plan I would be thrilled; our healthcare will still be third-world for tens of millions until we make universal healthcare the law.
Posted by: Flatus
| August 9, 2008 3:54 PM
A 3 hour anti-Obama talk show with host Laurie Roth and guest Pam Geller.
(Fri - Aug 8)
http://www.therothshow.com/RothArchives.aspx
Posted by: GORDO | August 9, 2008 3:58 PM
I need some help here. On August 7th, Michelle (My Belle) Obama while being interviwed on Good Morning America, said the following about BHO.
"You know, this is the kid who was raised by a single mother who didn't have access to many resources, who, you know, has walked away his entire life from lucrative careers to work in the community."
I thought it was his grandparents who raised him? Oh whatever.
I guess maybe with all the hoopla the MSM has been heaping on BHO, one hoopla starts sounding like the last hoopla, so I may have missed this one. What lucrative careers has BHO walked away from to work in the community"? We know Michelle didn't walk away from them, but she is saying BHO did. Please enlighten me about the enlighten one's lucrative careers, can't seem to find mention of those anywhere. Of course the good people at Good Morning America, never bother to ask what lucrative careers she was referring to.
Posted by: FryDaddy
| August 9, 2008 3:59 PM
Yeah, it seems the Clinton plan is better. Most important, though, is winning the White House and having a bully pulpit for improving healthcare; otherwise it will be Congressional leaders and a recalcitrant president. Seems people listen more to the president than congress.
Posted by: dog's eye view | August 9, 2008 4:01 PM
Yeah, it seems the Clinton plan is better. Most important, though, is winning the White House and having a bully pulpit for improving healthcare; otherwise it will be Congressional leaders and a recalcitrant president. Seems people listen more to the president than congress.
--Dog's
Dog .......perhaps you should explain that to brian. He seems more intent on alienating people from obama. At any rate, that's the fact, if not the intent.
Posted by: sturgeone | August 9, 2008 4:10 PM
Clinton team internal memos referring to BHO as "unelectable." 130 of them willl be published online by the Atlantic Monthly this Monday. Not sure BHO will take kindly to some of these. When is BHO going to go to Hawaii?
Posted by: FryDaddy
| August 9, 2008 4:10 PM
Brian,
That Obama commercial is great. His team makes the McCain team look like a high school beginning video class.
Dog,
The difference in the health plans was why Elizabeth didn't endorse Obama. She didn't go against her husband to endorse Clinton, but you know which plan she preferred and person she liked best.
Posted by: Jamie
| August 9, 2008 4:16 PM
what i dont understand is why elizabeth edwards went along with John's plan to run for president knowing of this campaign killing fact in his past....i understand that it's not such a big deal in the context of a long life of service and hard work, but the fact remains it would kill any chance for winning any election.......how could they think that this would not ever see the light of day?
Posted by: sturgeone | August 9, 2008 4:20 PM
FD
He's in Hawaii now. I wouldn't worry about the memos unless someone used language worse than unelectable.. Some of the Obama memos against the Clintons were equally bad. It's just campaigning and lower level staff writing stuff.
Posted by: Jamie
| August 9, 2008 4:20 PM
Jamie,
Elizabeth Edwards a few months back, maybe even more, took exception to one of BHO's speeches on health care as coming directly off John Edwards' playbook.
Posted by: FryDaddy
| August 9, 2008 4:21 PM
Fry: the Clinton team underestimated Obama from the word go, and overestimated their own strategy and inevitability. That said, there are probably some astute passages in them too.
It will be interesting to read those memos, because am sure they contain some interesting and useful material. Detrimental too. But look forward to their being published -- they might be helpful to historians and writers.
PS: for the geographic roundup: how's NC today? You gotten a vacation yet this summer?
Posted by: dog's eye view | August 9, 2008 4:21 PM
Maybe they thought she would stay quiet and maybe Elizabeth thought he would never go near her again.
Which brings up the quote:
Any woman who thinks a man will change and any man who thinks a woman won't change are both doomed to disappointment.
Posted by: Jamie
| August 9, 2008 4:22 PM
Sturgeone,
how could they think that this would not ever see the light of day?'
John Edwards said it best, "In the course of several campaigns, I started to believe that I was special and became increasingly egocentric and narcissistic." He thought he was invincible.
Posted by: FryDaddy
| August 9, 2008 4:27 PM
Fry.....seems to be a fact of life with celebrity of most any type of stripe, I suppose.
Posted by: sturgeone | August 9, 2008 4:30 PM
NC clear blue skies today. Hope it is nice tonight as we are suppose to go out boating. Not mine, a friends. I gave up owning a boat after I learned it took almost the same amount of time to keep the boat looking good as it did my home. Sold boat.
Vacation? Yes Vegas. Sin City. Here we come in late September.
Posted by: FryDaddy
| August 9, 2008 4:31 PM
Boat: hole in the water into which one tosses money.
Posted by: sturgeone | August 9, 2008 4:33 PM
'Boat: hole in the water into which one tosses money.'
Yes it is, no doubt about that and it doesn't matter if the boat is small or large. The only thing that changes is the size of the hole in the water.
Posted by: FryDaddy
| August 9, 2008 4:36 PM
Fry
Stinky and I took a one day vacation on Thursday. Thought about all the places we wanted to go, got in the car and drove down to the new Cracker Barrel a couple of miles away from here. Had lunch, drove back home, and took a nap. Perfect.
Posted by: Flatus
| August 9, 2008 4:40 PM
Food for thought.
If anyone is considering on purchasing a boat you should know the cost of up-keeping a boat per year use to be roughly 10% of the original cost, but that was before gas tripled. I would think today that cost is 15%.
Finally. The difference between a boat and a ship? You can put a boat on a ship, you could never, nor would you want to, put a ship on a boat.
Posted by: FryDaddy
| August 9, 2008 4:46 PM
Cracker Barrel customer says bias was 'flagrant'
http://www.usatoday.com/money/companies/2004-05-07-cracker-barrel_x.htm
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| August 9, 2008 4:46 PM
well.......I mean......the name IS "Cracker" Barrel, after all.........
Posted by: sturgeone | August 9, 2008 4:49 PM
ha ha ha ha .......that's a good one, sturgeone.........lol
Posted by: sturgeone | August 9, 2008 4:50 PM
but then, Clinton's affairs came to light before the election........and they rose over it.....so what the hell..........you just never know........of course, they were Clintons not Edwards........
Posted by: sturgeone | August 9, 2008 4:54 PM
Flatus,
There is nothing wrong with simplicity.
The Italians are good at making the same product, but arriving at it from 2 different directions.
Beretta makes a fine hand gun has only 9 moving pieces.
Benelli also make a fine hand gun, but with over 30 moving pieces.
Posted by: FryDaddy
| August 9, 2008 4:56 PM
Craig, glad you're back in favor with KO.
MSNBC, baby!
Yes, I like Obama's calmness.
tt
Posted by: tiptoe
| August 9, 2008 4:59 PM
As evening approaches more Obamaiacs come out. So I'll re-ask my question of 3:59 PM today.
What lucrative careers has BHO walked away from to work in the community? Michelle made this statement on August 7, 2008 while being interviewed on Good Morning America.
And when are these town hall meetings going to start?
Posted by: FryDaddy
| August 9, 2008 5:08 PM
I'll be back tomorrow to see if anyone has an answer to my question. If you do know the answer to this question you may want to post somewhere on the net as no one else knows what she, she being Michelle, is talking about. Unless she means he could have had a lucrative career if only he had applied for them. But Michelle didn't use the world ":could", she used the words, "walked away". Meaning he was offered these position, but didn't accept them.
Posted by: FryDaddy
| August 9, 2008 5:16 PM
If you love someone, set them free......if they dont come back to you, get drunk and call them back at midnight.....
post card I saw once in cracker barrel
Posted by: sturgeone | August 9, 2008 5:17 PM
I like my Women on the Trashy side.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj80jzTZ9Co
Posted by: whskyjack
| August 9, 2008 5:20 PM
Red neck mother, Jerry Jeff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYQevzz3aRM
Posted by: whskyjack
| August 9, 2008 5:24 PM
it's my guess, Fry, that Michelle thinks it's obvious that Obama could have had a lucrative career in almost any field he might have chosen.......which is probably true, all things considered........
Posted by: sturgeone | August 9, 2008 5:25 PM
BTW
Dog , thankyou, I can't think of better company than 911
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| August 9, 2008 5:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NEE8oURdM0&feature=related
Thanks for those Dead-tubes, Jamie. I think the blonde girl on "Touch of Grey" at 1:55 coulda been me!! (lol)
Btw, I was held accountable for the premature death of Jerry Garcia because I wouldn't let my teenage son take off to any Grateful Dead concerts. I don't know if the band was actually touring or planning a tour during that time period, but my son was mounting a campaign to get to one. My standard delaying tactic on such requests was "Not until you're 18."
On this occasion, my son replied, "But Jerry's OLD - I have to see him NOW because he's going to DIE."
"Oh, poo," I scoffed, "He's not old, and besides he'll live forever." About two weeks later, Jerry died.
Posted by: Ivy Green | August 9, 2008 5:34 PM
I took me little daughter to a Dead concert at Raliegh in 91.....we had to park way the hell away from the stadium in parking lot Triple Z (so to speak)......well ...pulled up next to me was a black rental continental from Philly with one young feller wearing what appeared to be a "sharkskin suit" and his sidekick in sandals, t-shirt and shorts......they cracked the trunk open revealing two big containers of NO2......nitrous oxide.......he broke out 2 packs of large balloons and soon had a line of Deadheads leading to the trunk of his car........so for $5 a baloon, he was busy for 2 days as fast as the sidekick could fill the balloons........
Posted by: sturgeone | August 9, 2008 5:39 PM
Occasionally, Obama has indicated that he has a weak sense of American history. He didn’t seem to know that the Cold War was not a time when the world was standing as one. He didn’t know the history of presidential summits and seems to think that FDR and Truman met with our nation’s enemies. He didn’t know how the Nuremberg Trials worked. And I’m not even talking about his mistake that Americans liberated Auschwitz.
But I think his remark when the little girl asked him why he decided to run for president and he gave this response.
“America is …, uh, is no longer, uh … what it could be, what it once was. And I say to myself, I don’t want that future for my children.”
As you watch the video, it’s clear that he formed his words carefully and was thinking about how to answer the little girl.
http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/08/08/what-is-obama-talking-about/
Posted by: pita | August 9, 2008 6:01 PM
"Occasionally, Obama has indicated that he has a weak sense of American history. He didn’t seem to know that the Cold War was not a time when the world was standing as one. He didn’t know the history of presidential summits and seems to think that FDR and Truman met with our nation’s enemies. He didn’t know how the Nuremberg Trials worked. And I’m not even talking about his mistake that Americans liberated Auschwitz."
More right wing stupidity.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| August 9, 2008 6:03 PM
In 1993 Obama joined Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, a 12-attorney law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development, where he was an associate for three years from 1993 to 1996, then of counsel from 1996 to 2004, with his law license becoming inactive in 2002.
The firm was well-known among influential Chicago liberals and leaders of the black community, and the firm's Judson H. Miner, who met with Obama to recruit him before Obama's 1991 graduation from law school, had been counsel to former Chicago Mayor Harold Washington, although the law firm often clashed with the administration of Mayor Richard M. Daley.
The 29-year-old law student made it clear in his initial interview with Miner that he was more interested in joining the firm to learn about Chicago politics than to practice law.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_life_and_career_of_Barack_Obama
Posted by: pita | August 9, 2008 6:16 PM
Obama's 50 lies
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/50lies.asp
Posted by: pita | August 9, 2008 6:20 PM
Chloe - you asked me about re-registering with a different name and email address. I did that once but it made no difference. I think the problem is that activating my account(?) doesn't get done. It tells me to click on a web site for activation, but that web site doesn't exist. After corresponding with six apart several times, they told me I was activated and it worked for a month or two.
So I re-registered and can't get it activated. I finally did find an acceptable web site google recognized, clicked on it, and got the "sorry this page is not available" thing.
See why I'm so frustrated? I will go try again so I can say with certainty that it doesn't work. Wait right there, ok? (HA!) Here is one of the messages I have received:
***Our apologies.
***TypeKey has encountered an error. The requested ***page could not be found or the requested action ***could not be completed. Please check the URL ***carefully and try again. If you accessed this page ***from an email, make sure you cut and pasted the ***URL accurately.
This is another suggestion from them, but there is no place to enter the activation code:
***If you prefer, you can simply enter the following ***activation code the next time you login to TypeKey ***http://www.typekey.com/.
Oh, well, I was just on several other screens and one of them might work for bethypoo. As my father used to say, this is most likely cockpit trouble (me), but there is such a gulf!
Thanks, Chloe, You're inspiring me to try again.
Anyway, I didn't see all of the oopening ceremony but what I did saw was literally breath-taking. I love Chinese history, but find the sheer size of the country un-settling, un-nerving - not bad, mind you, but .............
maybe un-imaginable.
I'm off to see if typekey has found bethhyboo.
Activation code: 0ab2afb714
Posted by: boop | August 9, 2008 6:35 PM
I don't think so.
Posted by: bethyboo | August 9, 2008 6:39 PM
Richard Dreyfus is suing his father and uncle.......there's a story on it on Huffpost........
Posted by: sturgeone | August 9, 2008 6:50 PM
Hi Everyone,
A lot of you are writing about the Edwards' affair. I think the part that bothers
me isn't the morality question as much as the long term cover-up. Also,
what irks me is the money question. Ms. Hunter has been receiving thousands of dollars for many months from someone associated with Edwards, if not Edwards.
As I said to a wealthy friend of mine who gambled a lot of money
away in Vegas, "If you would only give even a small part of the cash you
throw away gambling to animal charities, I would respect you more."
(My friend did start donating to some animal shelters I suggested.)
It just seems that Edwards and his donors who have been financially supporting Reille Hunter in luxury could find more worthy places to put that money like maybe channel it to the poor folks that Edwards was so fond of pointing to during his run for president.
Posted by: prof marcia
| August 9, 2008 6:55 PM
oh great......just joined Arbitron........that should be fun......
Posted by: sturgeone | August 9, 2008 7:02 PM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/08/mccains-mavericktude.html#comment-126377
Hi Bethy,
Sorry you're still having trouble with type key. You can try the following.:
To activate the typekey account: After you've filled out signup info., it takes you to the "Please activate your account page. Do not exit out of that window, but instead minimize it.
Then open another window and go login to the email address you've given them.
There you will find an activation code from them.
Copy that code, then go back to the typekey page you minimized and paste that activation code into the slot that asks for it.
(don't go to the link they provide, but instead go to the original window you left open (by minimizing) and fill it in there).
Once you enter it, you will have an account.
If you have any questions, just ask. I'll check back.
Posted by: chloe
| August 9, 2008 7:02 PM
It just seems that Edwards and his donors who have been financially supporting Reille Hunter in luxury could find more worthy places to put th at money like maybe channel it to the poor folks that Edwards was so fond of pointing to during his run for president.Posted by: prof marcia | August 9, 2008 6:55
Hi marcia,
I agree with you. But I don't think they were giving her that money out of the kindness of their heart. It sounds more like hush money, maybe.
Posted by: chloe
| August 9, 2008 7:14 PM
Another rhetorical question I posed to my husband last night as we were watching the extravagant but selective "history of China..."
"Doesn't Richard Nixon deserve some of the credit for this??"
And Nixon's also the one who said it's the "cover-up" that will get you. Lesson lost on John Edwards?
Posted by: Ivy Green | August 9, 2008 7:35 PM
Image the unthinkable.
In 2008 John McCain, a terribly flawed candidate, could actually defeat Barack Obama.
Wake up Democrats, before it is too late.
Posted by: Oregon Democrat | August 9, 2008 7:47 PM
Are you good enough for Barack Obama--take the test.
http://obamatest.com/
Posted by: Boss Tweed | August 9, 2008 7:48 PM
Tribute to Cowboy Boots: 'Charlie Dunn', Jerry Jeff Walker
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fg3y_PvUxM
Posted by: whskyjack
| August 9, 2008 7:57 PM
re clinton team internal memos, who leaked them? and why? which side do they help rs or ds? were they written during the time of patti solis doyle?
on another topic: is j mc a stalking horse? who do you think has been picked to step in at the last minute when he pulls out?
Posted by: patd | August 9, 2008 8:01 PM
Guy Clark - Desperados Waiting For A Train
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFb1lGMvS3I
Posted by: whskyjack
| August 9, 2008 8:01 PM
Beautiful June and 2 others not so beautiful:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbZduysXsOU&feature=related
Posted by: sturgeone | August 9, 2008 8:05 PM
Patd........possible stalking horse is exactly the way I see McCain.........as to who will replace him.......that's up for grabs......but I see no way he will be the eventual nominee unless the gop just wants to lose for whatever reason, and there could be many reasons......
Posted by: sturgeone | August 9, 2008 8:08 PM
whskyjack,
I haven't been commenting on the music you post here. But I have to say that you are consistently posting great music. So I've got to add one I like: Can't You See- Marshall Tucker Band
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEOV5vWfSgI&feature=related
Posted by: Bowmanc
| August 9, 2008 8:11 PM
beautiful June once time more.......
with Marty Robbins
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arde9psKcYY&feature=related
Posted by: sturgeone | August 9, 2008 8:13 PM
Bret Maverick
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYrsDT02OcE&feature=related
Posted by: sturgeone | August 9, 2008 8:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZzY6KZuLUo&NR=1
Paladin
Posted by: sturgeone | August 9, 2008 8:29 PM
Buddy Emmons - I just Destroyed The World.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFuYmuZpFiw
Posted by: Bowmanc
| August 9, 2008 8:32 PM
don helms.......blues stay away from me......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2LAA7eunL8&feature=related
Posted by: sturgeone | August 9, 2008 8:38 PM
Maybe John Edwards is more decent than some folks believe. Maybe his decision to go ahead with his campaign after 2006 was an act of love. Maybe he was trying to fulfill his wife's dying wish -- to see him ensconced in the White House.
As for "using his family" to advance his chances, look at the Christmas cards you received over the last 10 years or so. How many of the senders that posed as "perfect" families for holiday photos are still together? How fooled were you by the idealized images suggested by those photos? And how many of the card senders who strayed were forced to abandon their careers because of an indiscretion?
I still believe in Senator Edwards (and Mrs. Edwards). They are far more authentic and far more able to relate to the electorate than, for instance, Mr. and Mrs. Bush (41 or 43), Mr.and Mrs. McCain or, for that matter, President and Mrs. Clinton.
It is time for the media to concentrate on all of the lies told by Mr. Bush (41 or 43) -- lies that actually have a material impact on our lives -- instead of rehashing the technically true but misleading denials issued by Senator Edwards.
Let's aim our anger/hostility/judgment at those who have truly let us down. The press should be taken to task for its misplaced priorities, its attempts to manipulate public opinion and its general laziness in terms of investigating anything of consequence.
Posted by: benjaminblue | August 9, 2008 8:40 PM
Bob Wills & The Texas Playboys - Take Me Back To Tulsa
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrjBXrvBdiU
Posted by: Bowmanc
| August 9, 2008 8:41 PM
Chloe - I'm going to wait till I see if I get any answers to questions I have left with them. It is my fault, I'm sure.
I don't mind his lying about it - who wouldn't? He took a big risk, tho, with our possible future.
IF this is the only time he's done this, I'm wondering if it isn't part of the turmoil going on in their lives. I have to think how to say what I want to.
If any of yoou watch As Time Goes By, do you remember how Lionel didn't want to share their story - he kept saying, "It's ours," and other people's problems were "theirs". That's pretty much how this strikes me. We have no idea what's been going on with them over the years. I'm sorry for all of them.
However, I never believed he hadn't messed around, long before the rumors started. Hunter doesn't seem to be very admirable.
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Posted by: Bowmanc
| August 9, 2008 8:52 PM
tribute to bob by mick and the lads:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xECNrYxRUA
Posted by: sturgeone | August 9, 2008 8:54 PM
Tulsa Time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cpzdFqnbj4
Posted by: Jamie
| August 9, 2008 9:02 PM
Sturge,
Hate to say it. but I like Waylon's version better.
Posted by: Bowmanc
| August 9, 2008 9:03 PM
Country & Western Night on the Trail Mix....
POCO - Hoe Down
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtGRp-6J98k
Posted by: Bowmanc
| August 9, 2008 9:05 PM
You want Waylon. You Get Waylon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKV7vt1kHnk&feature=related
Posted by: Jamie
| August 9, 2008 9:11 PM
Jamie,
And that is about as good as it gets. Period.
Posted by: Bowmanc
| August 9, 2008 9:15 PM
bowman......i agree......but it's like an elephant's singing......it's not about how good it is, but about the fact that he's singing.......
lol
Posted by: sturgeone | August 9, 2008 9:19 PM
Last summer we helped my inlaws celebrate their 65th wedding anniversery. the Bob Wills number reminds me of all the music we found in the web.
One of my motherinlaws favorite was the Inkspots.
The Inkspots.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf6wjVYkkFo
Posted by: whskyjack
| August 9, 2008 9:20 PM
I can't believe how judgemental people can be. Lordy, we only get one kick at the can, folks. Our lives are a blip in time and space. We all, yes ALL, just do the best we can with what we got. We're all just stuck on this tiny ball in the sky that's circling a shinier ball. What if ya wake up tomorrow and it's all been some weird verrrry long-running movie? Who CARES what the Edwards are doing????
Posted by: tylenol
| August 9, 2008 9:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhYy26-kV1g
mo waylon live
Posted by: sturgeone | August 9, 2008 9:23 PM
Tylenol
Us monkeys got to be entertained.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| August 9, 2008 9:24 PM
monkey entertaining self:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmnt0FAGKGE
Posted by: sturgeone | August 9, 2008 9:29 PM
our daily, Hee Haw.
Carter Family - My Dixie Darlin' - Hee Haw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J4HcjV7KII
Posted by: whskyjack
| August 9, 2008 9:29 PM
Sturge
LOL, Have fart jokes been around on this earth longer than humans have?
Looks like we have a lot in common with chimps.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| August 9, 2008 9:34 PM
Good music tonight folks just catching up thanks
jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| August 9, 2008 9:35 PM
Stoneman Family
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsRgZRjJfts
Posted by: sturgeone | August 9, 2008 9:37 PM
Original Carter Family - My Dixie Darling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq3AiyahYk4
Posted by: whskyjack
| August 9, 2008 9:39 PM
Jack:
my first week in boot camp was spent with a lot of time in our barracks waiting on things......there came a time when everyone had exhausted every known joke available and the only thing left which would get a laugh was plain and fancy farting......I took that to mean something, I'm just not sure what........
Posted by: sturgeone | August 9, 2008 9:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V25iA2XPzuA&feature=related
McKinley Morganfield, the muddy one.........
Posted by: sturgeone | August 9, 2008 9:46 PM
farting.. such a guy thing! and why oh WHY do you (all!) always look so damned SURPRISED when it happens????
Posted by: tylenol
| August 9, 2008 9:50 PM
whoa..just noticed.. that great PBS sherlock holmes series with Jeremy Brett is rerunning! Have a nice night everyone!
Posted by: tylenol
| August 9, 2008 9:57 PM
Last one for the night from me
Sturge
I'll leave you at the controls.
Howlin' Wolf - Wang Dang Doodle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtoUb5ULcjY
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| August 9, 2008 9:59 PM
"Country Man"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM58A13_bXE
Posted by: Corey
| August 9, 2008 10:04 PM
There is a time for many