Produced by CQ's Andrew Satter
Craig talks to Democratic Convention delegates moments after Barack Obama's official nomination on Wednesday.
Produced by CQ's Andrew Satter
Craig talks to Democratic Convention delegates moments after Barack Obama's official nomination on Wednesday.
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Good Morning! Anyone in here? Hellooooooo!
Posted by: Alicia Knight
| August 28, 2008 6:08 AM
Craig -- Looks like you're having a good time at the DEM convention! Are you going to the GOP Convention?
Posted by: Alicia Knight
| August 28, 2008 6:15 AM
oops.....missed der new threads....
Observations:
Big Bill strikes again......when youre down in Politicsville, old Bill is still the king......
Michelle gets a case of the old fish-eye....... and sits next to (drum roll please) Theresa Heinz Kerry......good move.......lol.....
Corey hits the "Unity" nail on the head.
nasty people are nasty people no matter whom they support.
Gordo roils the waters, and briannyc, who sits day after day furiously typing onto his 5 computers from his mom's basement wonders if Gordo has visible means of support........lol
Craig poses with the obama goil......there's so many teeth in that picture, I had to squint to see it.......lol
Huzzah!
el greato threado.
Posted by: sturgeone | August 28, 2008 6:31 AM
ROFL sturge....
Posted by: Patsi
| August 28, 2008 6:46 AM
Dennis Kucinich's line about Republicans was supposedly stricken: “They’re asking for another four years — in a just world, they’d get 10 to 20.”
Why in the world would the DNC be censoring that line?
Posted by: Patsi
| August 28, 2008 7:00 AM
Unity?
Posted by: sturgeone | August 28, 2008 7:01 AM
advance picture of the set for Obama's big sprechen:
http://z.about.com/d/cruises/1/0/9/l/3/Athens030.JPG
Posted by: sturgeone | August 28, 2008 7:05 AM
Sturge -- Good one! But please-- was Michelle really sitting next to Tah-RAY-zah? Good grief! That is one haughty woman. I hope Michelle isn't taking charm lessons from her.
Posted by: Alicia Knight
| August 28, 2008 7:06 AM
Michelle may be taking investment lessons from Tah-RAY-zah. I am sure she has big plans also. Cindy would be a better mentor
Posted by: Ping Pong
| August 28, 2008 7:08 AM
alicia......I'm not sure, it could just be malicious gossip.......lol
Posted by: sturgeone | August 28, 2008 7:09 AM
The CNN and MoJo crowd this am is making a lot out of the columns on the set for the speech tonight.
Are there going to be people sitting behind the stage? That's a big stage to have to sit behind.
Posted by: Alicia Knight
| August 28, 2008 7:09 AM
Hey Patsi!
This was a fun diversion this morning. Can you guess all of them? I only got 7.
http://www.sptimes.com/2007/webspecials07/interactives/tv-themes-quiz/
Posted by: Alicia Knight
| August 28, 2008 7:11 AM
I have not liked Tah-Ray-Zah ever since she sicced her private security goons on me for trying to take her picture at the VA JJ dinner in 2004. Elizabeth Edwards, that same night, posed graciously, and asked me to snap another picture to make sure her eyes weren't closed.
Posted by: Alicia Knight
| August 28, 2008 7:14 AM
Another gift from Bush and Company
Bankruptcies Soar for Seniors
http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1836747,00.html
Jamie, just another loophole for Shrub to close.
Posted by: Flatus
| August 28, 2008 7:26 AM
Bill Clinton "supports" Obama ('cause BO is the Dem nom), but he "loves" Joe Biden. I think the opening statement said it all. If he thinks BO is ready for the job, why did he bury his lead?
Can BO just admit to being America's spokesmodel & let Biden handle things? I might be able to get behind the ticket then. As it is, I still have absolutely nothing solid to go on with BO. Bill Clinton giving an amazing speech doesn't dissuade me from my concerns about the Dem nom, after all, Bill is a flip-flopper.
If it weren't for his pattern of being so grandiose, I don't think people would be making such a big deal about the Greek columns in Denver. Birthplace of democracy, ya know. (Greece, not Denver...Denver is the birthplace of an omlet.) Plus, you can' t use the same decorations for a banquet hall that you would for a child's party in a backyard. But since BO is positively W-esque in personality, it wasn't a great move.
Mika's worried about being seen as biased for being amazed a the history-making nom of BO? Uh, once again, if it weren't for a pattern of pro-BO bias...
Loved The Daily Show pointing out what a blowhard Olmbermann has become. I saw the exchange with MoJo when it happened the other afternoon, but had missed Tweety going after him. Good for you, Chris Matthews. Good for you. Schuster has become a little KO-wannabe, too.
And, at the end of the week, the best person for the job did not get the Dem nomination, but will head back to the Senate & get ready for 2012.
Posted by: blueINdallas | August 28, 2008 7:28 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080828/ap_on_bi_ge/china_iraq_oil
Meanwhile, our lanes of transport start to choke.
http://www.startribune.com/local/27550659.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aU7EaDiaMDCiUT
Posted by: blueINdallas | August 28, 2008 7:49 AM
President Clinton's coif was over the top. The only think it lacked was a blue tint.
Posted by: Flatus
| August 28, 2008 7:52 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/08/dem-delegates-say-yes-we-can.html#comment-134834
Sturge, Beautiful critique!
The Master Has Arrived
"As for Bill Clinton's speech, halfway through I thought: The Master has arrived. Crazy Bill, the red-faced Rageaholic, was somewhere else. This was Deft Political Pro Bill doing what no one had been able to do up to this point at the convention, and that is make the case for Barack Obama."
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121988803885278541.html?mod=todays_columnists
Posted by: chloe
| August 28, 2008 7:53 AM
good morning gang....
Big Bill was brilliant as usual....
he hit all the right notes..... after the last 2 nights I hope the "Clintons are only in it for themselves" crowd has been silenced....
now on to the hard fight......
oh yeah.... the Red Sox won again!
Posted by: RebelliousRenee
| August 28, 2008 7:57 AM
BO still has to make the case for himself. I don't know who he is, I don't know what he stands for (really), and I don't know what he would do as prez or how he handles a crisis.
Bill Clinton is great. Hillary Clinton is great. Joe Binden is great. After tonight, BO will have given two speeches...
Posted by: blueINdallas | August 28, 2008 7:59 AM
The write-in ballot.
To all you loyal HRC supporters:
Remember all those questions, doubts you had about BHO, well they have still gone pretty much unanswered. As Ann Price-Mills, the woman in the CNN video clip said, 'would you appoint someone who just graduated college, one who lacks any experience, the CEO of a major company?' The major company we are talking about here is the United States of America.
Why are the fervent HRC supporters lacking the courage of their own convictions. Why is it you will not write-in HRC's name? Why are you letting the DNC, MSM, and Team BHO roll you? Why are you so willing to accept the lesser of the two, when you know full well HRC stands heads and shoulders above BHO on all the major issues? Why are you following in lockstep to the orders of the DNC? You don't really want to vote for BHO, but you will vote for him because you fear writing in HRC name will throw the election to McCain. Here is a bit of news for you, McCain is going to win this election, this country is not about to, in times like this, throw itself behind a person who has little or no experience, a total unknown quantity, as Joe Biden said, "The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training". Make no mistake about it, should you HRC supporters follow their conscience you'll still lose, but at least you lost fighting for the person you believed in, and not for some cardboard caricature cut-out of a candidate you were told you had to vote for thinking this will make you a good D. It doesn't make you a good anything other than a head nodding, non-thinking follower, a robot.
Take a look at the following list of candidates who also ran in 2004. Do you really think their supporters thought for a moment their candidate had a chance of winning? Of course not, but they voted their true heart felt convictions. Wonder how many of the self proclaim Socialist on this blog have ever voted Socialist in the any election?
Ralph Nader Independent 465,650 0.38%
Michael Badnarik Libertarian 397,265 0.32%
Michael Peroutka Constitution 143,630 0.12%
David Cobb Green 119,859 0.10%
Peace and Freedom 27,607 0.02%
Walt Brown Socialist 10,837 0.01%
Róger Calero (b) Socialist Workers 10,800 0.01%
Think how great it would be come the day after the election, to see HRC had received 10% of the votes she received during the primary, or 1,800,000 votes. What a wonderful notice to the almighty DNC, and MSM, that you weren't all willing victims, that some of you actually took matters into your own hands and voted for the person you truly wanted to see elected POTUS, and not some PC nominee your party is ramming down your throats. If you really in your hearts of hearts truly want to show the world that your belief in HRC is real and not just hype, then come this November do the correct thing, the brave independent thing, the more time consuming thing, write-in HRC.
Posted by: FryDaddy
| August 28, 2008 8:02 AM
Flatus -- Don't you be talkin' about my DAWG now. His hair looked just great.
What I'm wondering about is the macrame friendship bracelet he seemed to be wearing on his right wrist. Unusual -- must have a meaning.
Posted by: Alicia Knight
| August 28, 2008 8:06 AM
Claire McCaskill was on Scarborough, saying that, in her speech, MLRO needed to let people know who she(MLRO)really is.
Someone(here) was quoting Maya Angelou yesterday(or maybe two days ago).
Here is another MA quote, that(IMHO)applies to both Obamas...
“When people show you who they are, believe them . . . the first time.” ~ Maya Angelou ~
Posted by: LushIsLinda
| August 28, 2008 8:20 AM
Alicia, you know I'm one of his fans. Didn't notice the bracelet.
I thought his speech was not so good as Sen Clinton's. He's at his best when he starts with a simple theme, builds on it, and continues building until it reaches a crescendo. I didn't feel that last night.
For me, Mrs Obama's facial expressions were the highlight of the speech.
Mark Warner was terrible.
Spielberg's video was awesome--the highlight of the night for me.
I couldn't bear to watch the roll call. (Thanks so much for your post of a couple days of ago on how state laws govern delegates voting.)
I simply don't think I can ever again identify myself as an establishment democrat after this year's crass manipulation of poor we.
I'm a tree-hugging, bleeding heart, card-carrying liberal. An Eleanor Roosevelt Democrat. Just no room for me under this tent.
Posted by: Flatus
| August 28, 2008 8:20 AM
Lots of REALLY nice Convention Pictures
http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2008/08/26/slideshow_dnc_day2/?refid=0
Posted by: chloe
| August 28, 2008 8:34 AM
big sigh of relief when i checked out this link getting a backstage view of the "temple" and saw that, thank glue, it wasn't composed of the five pillars of islam (sorry about that gordo) but has 12 columns...4 corinthian and 8 doric... more on the colonades at u of va designed by jefferson. o's campaign has a flare for classic hubris.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/08/021339.php
Posted by: patd | August 28, 2008 8:36 AM
Flatus --
Yep. Mark Warner did not have one of his finest moments. He really needs to work on that oratory. I've heard him do better. I also heard that he was somewhat flummoxed by the DNC speech writers that wanted him to pound on the GOP. That's never been his style, and so he refused their speech and pulled out his stump speech. Which is the result we all saw -- warmed over stump speech, delivered by an uncomfortable, unrehearsed speaker.
Michelle does know better than to make faces -- she just chooses to do so anyway. Tres mean girl, but not very professional or First Lady-ish.
Bill's bracelet in this photo -- http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44965000/jpg/_44965024_bil_512.jpg
Posted by: Alicia Knight
| August 28, 2008 8:37 AM
could that be a medical alert bracelet?
Posted by: patd | August 28, 2008 8:39 AM
Patd, Nice Video!
Alicia, I was looking for that bracelet and couldn't find it - thanks
Posted by: chloe
| August 28, 2008 8:44 AM
Good morning,all. I'm off to an amusement park for the day. Not sure what time I'll be back tonight.
http://www.miadventure.com/
Posted by: Corey
| August 28, 2008 8:44 AM
Good morning all!
Fry Daddy- thanks for your thoughts. Writing HRC in had been my intention until last week- the 3AM text put my over the edge. Will keep your post in mind,
Flatus- Why were her facial expressions the highlight of the speech for you? I was TRULY surprised that she didn't do a better job hiding her feelings during Sen. Clinton's speech. I would have thought that enthusiasm and graciousness would have been included in the new Michelle.
Posted by: oldseahag
| August 28, 2008 8:45 AM
Corey, Have fun!
Posted by: chloe
| August 28, 2008 8:48 AM
"Writing HRC in had been my intention until last week- the 3AM text put my over the edge."
Sea, What changed with the 3AM text?
Posted by: chloe
| August 28, 2008 8:49 AM
Alicia,
Webb's response to the State of the Nation a couple of years ago was a mark of independence that I thought went marvelously.
But, there's a tremendous difference between doing that in front of a camera with encouraging direction from the stage hands, than stepping out in front of crowd of 20k, many of whom could care less that your on the stage trying to say something important.
It's got to be absolutely deflating.
Posted by: Flatus
| August 28, 2008 8:49 AM
OSH, I sensed that she had no idea that she would like the speech, and that as he took around each bend of the road, her pleasure burst out. I thought her emotions were transparently authentic.
Posted by: Flatus
| August 28, 2008 8:52 AM
OSH
I think with Michelle what you see is what you get. She doesn't have a pokerface. If she is worried it shows, if she is mad it shows as with joyous, sad, proud, relieved.
So the look on her face tells us the Obama folks were worried that Clinton would pull a ted Kenndy. after the Big Dog's first sentence her relief was apparent..
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| August 28, 2008 8:52 AM
...took her around...
Posted by: Flatus
| August 28, 2008 8:53 AM
Flatus
Michell can't play poker.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| August 28, 2008 8:53 AM
Jack, surprised Harvard Law didn't have a moot court that would cure that.
Posted by: Flatus
| August 28, 2008 8:55 AM
Fry, your finger pointing at women is taking on dog's pedantry.
Posted by: Patsi
| August 28, 2008 8:59 AM
I noticed last night that CNN was getting bored and was starting to speculate on McCain VP.
Not good. The Obama campaign needs to get some meat for the monster. It needs to be fed or it will wander in search of food.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| August 28, 2008 9:01 AM
Who is the McCain VP choice?
Posted by: Blonde wino
| August 28, 2008 9:10 AM
BW
We don't know, reasonably certain it won't be lieberman as they have an event on Saturday, I think.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| August 28, 2008 9:13 AM
Chloe- It was a huge nose thumbing to Clinton and her supporters, showing neither sensitivity nor concern for unity .
Flatus & Jack- Aha, That makes sense. I was so aggravated with her facial expressions the night before I guess I blocked her out and just focused on my Big Dawg!
Posted by: oldseahag
| August 28, 2008 9:13 AM
Patsi,
My post today was addressed to HRC supporters, it didn't specify sex, age or race. I will grant you that most HRC supporters are more than likely 40ish plus, white and female, and yes it is her female supporters who have expressed more outrage over this dog and pony show.
Posted by: FryDaddy
| August 28, 2008 9:14 AM
"It was a huge nose thumbing to Clinton and her supporters, showing neither sensitivity nor concern for unity "
Sea, I agree.
But how did it change your decision on writing in Hillary?
Posted by: chloe
| August 28, 2008 9:15 AM
Who is the McCain VP choice?
Colin Powell?
Posted by: FryDaddy
| August 28, 2008 9:16 AM
Craig Crawford man on the street interviews --nice touch!
Too bad there won't be anyone at the Gooper convention - looks like Ahhhnold is taking a pass!
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker
| August 28, 2008 9:19 AM
Don't think so Fry. But we'll know tomorrow.
Posted by: chloe
| August 28, 2008 9:20 AM
Alicia
That was fun. I got seven as well. Of course they were the seven I watched. :-)
Posted by: Jamie
| August 28, 2008 9:21 AM
chloe,
I take your reply to me a possible maybe? lol
Posted by: FryDaddy
| August 28, 2008 9:22 AM
Lindsay Graham
Posted by: Flatus
| August 28, 2008 9:23 AM
Fry,
I don't think he'll choose a General.
From what I've read, he's been considering Romney, Pawlenty, and possibly Lieberman. But we could be in for a surprise.
Posted by: chloe
| August 28, 2008 9:25 AM
Flatus
Lindsay Graham? Are you an Frydaddy playing a game where you try to top each other with the "least likely."
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker
| August 28, 2008 9:26 AM
Lieberman???? Why not just go with Zmell Miller (he's still alive right?)
I think he is going with Tom Ridge --although the Kay Bailey Hutchison float is interesting (guess Liddy is too old now)
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker
| August 28, 2008 9:28 AM
Read McCain and Hutchison can't stand each other.
Posted by: chloe
| August 28, 2008 9:29 AM
JM doesn't need a military person for his VP slot, JM fills that slot, he needs a high profile successful business person.
Posted by: FryDaddy
| August 28, 2008 9:31 AM
Bill Clinton's bracelet - Auspicious
http://www.tabloidcolumn.com/bill-clinton-wrist-bracelet.html
Posted by: Jamie
| August 28, 2008 9:31 AM
I think Hutchinson is a tease to the Puma types.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| August 28, 2008 9:31 AM
McCain's Pending VP Choice
http://www.soundpolitics.com/archives/011368.html
Posted by: chloe
| August 28, 2008 9:33 AM
"JM doesn't need a military person for his VP slot, JM fills that slot, he needs a high profile successful business person."
Lfike Romney?
Posted by: chloe
| August 28, 2008 9:35 AM
Jack
I hope you are right. I cannot stand to listen to her. For a long time I have thought it would be Romney but as it gets closer I think McCain's calculation is to fight it out in the midwest and I think Ridge is the best bet. Although if it were me I would still go with Christy Todd Whitman and blame Rudee for all the 9/11 problems.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker
| August 28, 2008 9:35 AM
I saw the same CNN segment discussing the Mc-VP with everyone on set glued to their blackberry phones....yet, no name is surfacing. We knew it was going to be Biden (I think KGC told us) a few days before the text announcement. I am surprised the repugs can keep this a secret.
Posted by: Blonde wino
| August 28, 2008 9:36 AM
Here is a name I heard mentioned last night.
Sarah Heath Palin, Governor of Alaska.
Posted by: FryDaddy
| August 28, 2008 9:37 AM
Chloe- My intent went from showing my support of Hillary to doing what I could with my 1 vote to prevent Obama from becoming Pres. Flatus has giving me food for thought saying that he won't win anyways, so let history reflect her supporters. I'll be watching the polls closely, if it's tight I'll make my vote count.
Posted by: oldseahag
| August 28, 2008 9:37 AM
Palin has been in the mix for awhile and she has a great story and would be interesting. She smoked pot when it was legal and has no problem with it.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker
| August 28, 2008 9:39 AM
chloe,
"Like Romney"
Well that would be one example of a successful business person. If there is such an animal, and to counter Biden's 25 or 30 years in the Congress, I might look for a former Congress person who went on to becoming a successful business person.
Posted by: FryDaddy
| August 28, 2008 9:41 AM
"I'll make my vote count."
That's the direction I've been going too.
Posted by: chloe
| August 28, 2008 9:42 AM
"I might look for a former Congress person who went on to becoming a successful business person."
Any names Fry?
Posted by: chloe
| August 28, 2008 9:43 AM
Sarah Palin is an appealing up and comer. Not sure you want to direct too much attention to Alaska though. Senior senator indicted? Congressman indicted? Bridge to Nowhere?
Alaska has more trouble than grizzlies roaming its streets.
Posted by: dog's eye view | August 28, 2008 9:44 AM
Isn't Ridge Prochoice?
That would set off a rebellion at the convention, something McCain doesn't need. Why anybody would chose Romney is beyond me, he was a very poor candidate in the primary. I would go with the fresh face that could deliver in the midwest. Is there any Republican in Ohio that is not in jail? So that leaves Pawlenty, who looked very good on TV this morning.
Posted by: whskyjack
| August 28, 2008 9:44 AM
"Palin has been in the mix for awhile and she has a great story and would be interesting."
Katherine, He might be really smart to choose a female.
Posted by: chloe
| August 28, 2008 9:45 AM
Is there anyone under the age of 60 in America who hasn't smoke pot, legal or otherwise?
Posted by: FryDaddy
| August 28, 2008 9:45 AM
Palin would be interesting purely from the trivia standpoint. The last two states into the union, Alaska and Hawaii, have their first native born candidates for Pres and VP at the same time.
1959 was a good year.
Posted by: Jamie
| August 28, 2008 9:46 AM
FD
There aren't too many people still alive who haven't tried it at least once.
Posted by: Jamie
| August 28, 2008 9:49 AM
"So that leaves Pawlenty, who looked very good on TV this morning."
Yes Jack. And he's young. Could be a good thing for the ticket.
Posted by: chloe
| August 28, 2008 9:49 AM
"The last two states into the union, Alaska and Hawaii, have their first native born candidates for Pres and VP at the same time."
Sounds good Jamie.
Posted by: chloe
| August 28, 2008 9:51 AM
Chloe, I know Gordo gets a lot of guff around here, but I do believe the repubs will come out with something, don't know what or if it will be true, doesn't much matter, as long as they can create a question in voters minds. So I'm hoping their tactics will create enough of a gap that I will be able to vote for Hillary!
Posted by: oldseahag
| August 28, 2008 9:58 AM
One little guys opinion
Palin exactly the veep McCain needs
"But most important, Palin could do something few Republicans seem interested in or able to do these days: Help fuse the two pillars of the Reagan Revolution, traditional conservatives and libertarian Republicans."
http://www.adn.com/opinion/compass/story/481970.html
Posted by: chloe
| August 28, 2008 10:00 AM
"I do believe the repubs will come out with something,"
Truth or lie, you can count on it.
Posted by: chloe
| August 28, 2008 10:01 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/08/dem-delegates-say-yes-we-can.html#comment-134869
Flatus -- Did you mean Warner? Webb wasn't the speaker on Tues. night.
Posted by: Alicia Knight
| August 28, 2008 10:05 AM
chole,
Thinking chloe, thinking. They would have to be in their 50's, good looking, with a charismatic personality, a family person stilled married to his first spouse, a church goer even when the press isn't following them around, 2 children a boy & girl, hopefully gifted in academia, sports and the arts, they own their own home in a middle class neighborhood, do their own lawn work, no debt, drive a 5 year old Volvo that has been converted with a all electric motor, and a older model Toyota Prius, are loved by their neighbors and their community, regularity help out at the homeless shelter, and are big into charity giving, and his business is the sole tax base for the town. Still thinking.
Posted by: FryDaddy
| August 28, 2008 10:06 AM
LOL Fry.
Posted by: chloe
| August 28, 2008 10:08 AM
smiles back. At least you get it.
Posted by: FryDaddy
| August 28, 2008 10:10 AM
"and yes it is her female supporters who have expressed more outrage over this dog and pony show."
Yes, Fry, and most of them are tired of lectures.
Posted by: Patsi
| August 28, 2008 10:10 AM
sea; 8:45 am..........."the new michelle". Now that they've made sure that Hillary is no longer the first lady of the campaign, it's up to MO to get out there and promote her old man, how are they going to turn her from the Stepford wife they've made her into, to the pit bull she truly is.............Maybe they should send her to Pennsylvania, WV and Kentucky to tell them how proud she is of them..........
What on earth gave these people the idea that they could be so disrespectful to the only successful democratic presidential couple in 50 years, treat them like dirt, until they were NEEDED, I said NEEDED. The Obot campaign and the DNC, pelosi et al are really disgusting...............
Are we sure that the columns at the field are not the "Pillars of Heaven" or the portico of Mount Olympus?????...............
Rita
Posted by: politicallypissed
| August 28, 2008 10:12 AM
FD
And the wife holds multiple PhDs that allow her to home school the kiddies.
Posted by: Jamie
| August 28, 2008 10:15 AM
Hey Rita, especially in light of the Clintons' performance the last two days, it is all quite inconceivable to me. I feel like I've entered the twilight zone.
Posted by: oldseahag
| August 28, 2008 10:15 AM
"Yes, Fry, and most of them are tired of lectures."
Good one! lol Patsi
btw,
Bob Barr would be a good choice for you osh.
Posted by: Rezdog
| August 28, 2008 10:19 AM
Good morning Democrats, the rest of you should go back to bed! LOL
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| August 28, 2008 10:21 AM
"I feel like I've entered the twilight zone."
Sea! I'm always saying that! I thought I was the only one who ever felt that way.
Posted by: chloe
| August 28, 2008 10:22 AM
Mental Picture on how to lighten up tonight.
Have Sen. Obama stride onto the stage with about 10, sqeaking, flag waving R2D2's in his wake spreading around the stage to make fun of all the "exalted one" noise.
Posted by: Jamie
| August 28, 2008 10:22 AM
Rezdog-Thanks for the suggestion but I'm not a conservative as I have stated many times I have been a lifelong Dem.
Posted by: oldseahag
| August 28, 2008 10:23 AM
Watch out for the lightning and heavens to open tonight. The messiah is about to be crowned.
One word:
CRAPTACULAR
julie
Posted by: julie young | August 28, 2008 10:25 AM
Chloe- I've been saying that for months too!
Jamie- lol!!
Posted by: oldseahag
| August 28, 2008 10:25 AM
"What on earth gave these people the idea that they could be so disrespectful to the only successful democratic presidential couple in 50 years"
Rita, they weren't thinking past the Primary.
Posted by: chloe
| August 28, 2008 10:25 AM
Chloe
Judging from all the juicy anon quotes the media gets, a number of them still haven't moved beyond the primary.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| August 28, 2008 10:28 AM
Good Morning all
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121988803885278541.html?mod=todays_columnists
Chloe ,Thanks for that WSJ Peggy Noonan piece.I can't believe she actually wrote those nice things about Hillary!Jamie if you haven't read it give it a look.
Cory
The park looks like fun.I thought you were going to Cedar Point,didn't know about that park..Enjoy..You deserve it!
Posted by: tonyb39
| August 28, 2008 10:30 AM
Wow, I have to say the young delegate from Arkansas was really nice and I am not just meaning eye candy. He was so sincere and excited and a strong supporter of Hillary Clinton and ALSO a strong supporter of Barack Obama. His enthusiasm reminded me of my first experience in a Presidential campaign, working as a volunteer in the Seattle office of Mondale/Ferraro. I bet it was his first convention and I am sure he'll carry it with him forever.
Posted by: EuroTom
| August 28, 2008 10:30 AM
Good Morning Brian. I'm feeling magnanimous and mellow this morning. Try not to ruin it. :-)
Posted by: Jamie
| August 28, 2008 10:31 AM
I want to thank almost of you today, even when I haven't the time to post or anything to say, I check in and enjoy your comments and find myself especially glad to have this source this morning .
Posted by: oldseahag
| August 28, 2008 10:32 AM
"Bob Barr would be a good choice for you osh."
Nah -- if anyone votes for an indie it ought to be Cynthia McKinney, she may be a part-time crackpot, but she did slug that Capitol cop who grabbed her. Gotta give her props for that.
Posted by: Patsi
| August 28, 2008 10:33 AM
You're responsible for your own moods Jamie.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| August 28, 2008 10:35 AM
n addition to Olbermann, MSNBC personalities Chris Matthews, Joe Scarborough and David Shuster were involved in Denver controversies.
On Monday evening, Olbermann interrupted Scarborough while he was talking about McCain being competitive in the polls. “Jesus, Joe, why don’t you get a shovel?” Olbermann remarked.
On “Morning Joe” the following day, a clearly agitated Scarborough went off on Shuster during a discussion of Iraq, which quickly devolved over several cringe-worthy minutes into personal attacks, such as Scarborough telling the world how his colleague missed the show three times by oversleeping. "Are you Rip Van Shuster?” Scarborough asked. “Have you been sleeping for the past couple of months?”
But Scarborough, a former Republican congressman from Florida, became enraged when Shuster made a reference to “your party.” Asked by Scarborough what his party was, Shuster said he was an “independent.”
"I feel so comforted by the fact that you're an independent,” Scarborough said, in a mocking tone. “I bet everybody at MSNBC has independent on their voting cards. Oh, we're down the middle now.” (Shuster left the set, but returned later to hug it out, "Entourage"-style.)
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12900.html
Morning Load and the loadettes
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker
| August 28, 2008 10:37 AM
Patsi,
"Yes, Fry, and most of them are tired of lectures."
Maybe, but abuse is abuse and it come in many different forms and shapes. You can color this with any color you want, use a different size brush, try burying it in your backyard, but it is what it is. Different people handle abuse differently. If I am wronged I will seek out my pound of flesh, others have a different approach, I'm sure you have your own way of dealing with things. Writing-in HRC come this election is a just remedy some may wish to use to get their message across.
Posted by: FryDaddy
| August 28, 2008 10:37 AM
Tony, I'm glad to see you're back.
Jack, Yes. It's time to get focused.
Posted by: chloe
| August 28, 2008 10:38 AM
That Strickland joke about Shrub is hilarious:
Born on third and then stole second.
Posted by: Jamie
| August 28, 2008 10:40 AM
The other Noonan quote worth reading, "She will not be the president of the United States the next four years, but she can ease herself into the role of Teddy Kennedy-esque fighter for her issues in the Senate."
Posted by: Jamie
| August 28, 2008 10:42 AM
jamie,
"And the wife holds multiple PhDs that allow her to home school the kiddies"
No jamie that would be a D's wife. Remember we R's like to keep our wives in the kitchen and pregnant. Don't you read your own propaganda?
Posted by: FryDaddy
| August 28, 2008 10:42 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/08/dem-delegates-say-yes-we-can.html#comment-134930
Chloe
Your not the only one! I just told my Aunt last night,if someone had told me a year ago the that I would be a registered Independent ,well I surely wouldn't have believed them! I don't know anyone in my family or circle of friends that was a stronger Democrat than I was,its truly an amazing and yet SAD election for me....
Posted by: tonyb39
| August 28, 2008 10:42 AM
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/08/dem-delegates-say-yes-we-can.html#comment-134944
Fry, I agree with that post. We all handle abuse differently.
For me, it's simple. I don't reward bad behavior.
Posted by: chloe
| August 28, 2008 10:44 AM
"we R's like to keep our wives in the kitchen and pregnant."
I always heard it was subservient in the line from God to man to woman to child and the man got to tell her what God wanted.
Posted by: Jamie
| August 28, 2008 10:45 AM
Tony, Good. We need to change when it's necessary.
Posted by: chloe
| August 28, 2008 10:46 AM
jamie,
"She will not be the president of the United States the next four years,'
That is Noonan's way of saying, BHO will lose this election.
Posted by: FryDaddy
| August 28, 2008 10:47 AM
Oh Brian give the snark a little rest. The poor thing has been working overtime. For one day try to let it curl up and snooze.
Posted by: Jamie
| August 28, 2008 10:48 AM
jamie,
"I always heard it was subservient in the line from God to man to woman to child and the man got to tell her what God wanted."
Opps forgot that one.
Posted by: FryDaddy
| August 28, 2008 10:49 AM
"She will not be the president of the United States the next four years,'
Wow. I didn't catch that 4 year thing.
Posted by: chloe
| August 28, 2008 10:52 AM
Hey Chloe
Posted this at the end of the last thread,I don't know how to repost it...
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/08/dem-base-closing-ranks.html#comment-134756
Posted by: tonyb39
| August 28, 2008 10:53 AM
Thanks Tony! I don't know how I missed that.
You had me worried when I didn't see you for a few days.
Posted by: chloe
| August 28, 2008 10:56 AM
Good video -- listen to SoetorObama. For once, he speaks the TRUTH. His own words and "hidden" past will be devastating. Dems have done it again! The Repubs are going to enjoy taking SoetorObama apart. I'm sure Hill and Bill will be cheering on the Repubs. It'll be fun to watch the Obamabots in complete turmoil. They'll be asking themselves, "What happened?" This could even end up with SoetorObama doing some jail time -- wouldn't that be great! The Dem Party is now on the fast track to destruction -- deserves it for backstabbing the Clintons.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nA1MwOE86U
PUMA
Posted by: GORDO | August 28, 2008 11:01 AM
That's the TicketJoe Biden finally changes the subject away from the Clintons.
"Barack Obama and Joe Biden became running mates five days ago, but it wasn't until Wednesday night that they became a ticket...."
"... Bill Clinton......He praised Obama relentlessly and took care of the one omission from his wife's performance the night before: Calling on his experience during eight years in the White House, Clinton vouched that Obama was ready to be commander in chief. The only way he could have endorsed
http://www.slate.com/id/2198744/
Thanks everyone. Later.
Posted by: chloe
| August 28, 2008 11:05 AM
Bill's speech was magnificent !!! I just watched it on NYTimes.
After listening to the speeches given by both Hillary and Bill, I find it unbelievable that people are still attacking Barack Obama, especially those who seem to think that right wing conspiracy websites "prove" he isn't who he says he is, and those who think "they'll show them" by voting for John McCain. It's your right, but I wish these people would get a clearly sense of what's really at stake here. If you need further info, watch both Hillary's and Bill's speeches on NYTimes online.
Posted by: EuroTom
| August 28, 2008 11:05 AM
"The only way he could have endorsed Obama more enthusiastically is if he'd kissed him."
missed part of the last sentence
Posted by: chloe
| August 28, 2008 11:07 AM
GORDO,
Simply amazing! Words have meaning, and I can see where the D's will say well that was said in the heat of the primaries. OK I'll give them that, but since then what has changed about BHO? Nothing, he is the same inexperience, do nothing person now as he was then.
Posted by: FryDaddy
| August 28, 2008 11:10 AM
Jamie your efforts would be better put to controlling GORDO, I'm in a wonderful mood and nothing you can saw will change that!
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| August 28, 2008 11:11 AM
Jamie,
Are you using a saw these days? I'm more fond of an ice pick, but each their own.
Posted by: FryDaddy
| August 28, 2008 11:13 AM
Eurotom- I think we've all stated enough times our reservations and concerns about Obama as well as the new direction of the Dem. party. If you need further information to understand the views of the dems who aren't falling in line you could check out past posts on heidilipotpourri.blogspot.com/ , she has been very vocal about the process.
I am not surprised by the phenomenal Clinton speeches, they have always been good Dems and expected them to perform as such.
Posted by: oldseahag
| August 28, 2008 11:16 AM
Today's thread on the BackChannel Blog
DEMOCRATS!
http://clistersbackchannel.wordpress.com/
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| August 28, 2008 11:23 AM
This is a McCain ad. Pam Geller at Atlas Shrugs thinks it's his best yet. Of course, McCain's ads will be very mild compared to the 527s. The American people are going to learn about the real SoetorObama and they'll not like what they see and hear -- his "hidden" past.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHVrQOlApp4
PUMA
Posted by: GORDO | August 28, 2008 11:29 AM
KGC -- http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/08/dem-delegates-say-yes-we-can.html#comment-134943
This morning on MoJo I was sure that Joe was going to slap the sugar bowl out of Mika's hand while she was pouring it on her grits.
There is something fundamentally wrong with sugar on grits, so he kinda had a point.
Posted by: Alicia Knight
| August 28, 2008 11:33 AM
Today's thread on the blistersyeahbutchannel
Keeping the Divide Alive!
Posted by: blistersyeahbutchannel | August 28, 2008 11:39 AM
"Most people Thursday will be talking about former President Clinton, whose standing ovation went on and on before he spoke a word."
http://www.csmonitor.com/patchworknation/csmstaff/2008/0828/a-big-night-for-the-dems-and-clinton-but-biden-shows-his-appeal/
how did the bc standing ovation compare to others demonstrated at the demcon? i haven't heard much about this today. imho, it was very touching, very moving.
Posted by: patd | August 28, 2008 11:45 AM
The creators of JewsVote.Org, which went live on Monday, acknowledge Obama’s relative under-performance with Jewish voters and aim to learn its causes.
More importantly the Web site, created by The Jewish Council for Educational Research, seeks to counteract the Internet-spread rumors (most prominent among them that Obama is a Muslim) that most analysts say is one reason Obama is running about 62 percent in polls of
Jewish voters. That figure is above his standing with most non-African American groups but well below the Election-Day performance of recent Democratic presidential candidates.
JewsVote.org, according to the Web site, will “take on the rumors using the same networks used to propagate them.”
“We want to find out: Why are Jewish voters one of the only traditional Democratic groups whose support is going down?” said Mik Moore, co-director of the project. Moore, on leave as chief communications officer for the Jewish Funds for Justice, was the creator of Operation Bubbe, which sent young Jews to Florida to stir up support for John Kerry’s 2004 presidential bid. “And we wanted to provide an effective, easy-to-use set of tools that will enable people to counteract these rumors.” (Moore is on the board of The Jewish Week.)
The Web site allows users to create personal networks — an Internet function that has become a part of the daily lives of younger users, in particular — and use them to disseminate information about Obama to friends and colleagues. In an environment in which forwarded e-mails are a favored mode of political communication, the Web site allows users to choose from an array of pro-Obama e-mails and send them to their networks.
http://thejewishweek.com/viewArticle/c37_a13286/News/National.html
from the creators of Operation Bubbe...I love this.
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker
| August 28, 2008 11:54 AM
Nader whining about not be included in the debates, oh brother, give me a break!
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| August 28, 2008 11:56 AM
"This is a McCain ad"
That's your idea of an ad G Man?
His campaign doesn't even run these on a paid basis. They just create them in hopes that the cable news folks play them, They also depend on reich wing groups and their member to put them out on blogs like this one.
Posted by: Rezdog
| August 28, 2008 11:58 AM
Patd
The BC ovation was something else. He practically had to beg them to stop so he could get on with the speech that he tried to start about three different times.
Posted by: Jamie
| August 28, 2008 11:58 AM
Neal Boortz is doing a good job of tearing SoetorObama apart. Finally, Frank Marshall Davis is being mentioned -- but it's the CP-USA info. Haven't heard anyone talk about the really "bad stuff" - could be difficult to do on the public airwaves.
PUMA
Posted by: GORDO | August 28, 2008 12:02 PM
Fry -- you aren't getting my point, either. First of all, if TN allows it I AM writing in Hillary. However now I find that there are some tricks to that whole deal. If I can't, I'll vote for McKinney because I don't want the rest of my down ticket Democratic votes thrown out.
Posted by: Patsi
| August 28, 2008 12:04 PM
GORDO judging by the number of your posts today and the tone of them you're really getting scared. You should be!
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| August 28, 2008 12:10 PM
Craig's picture still isn't in the running ribbon of MSNBC personalities. Maybe we need to be nicer to them.
Posted by: Jamie
| August 28, 2008 12:10 PM
Jamie
Craig is just going to have to start kissing a little harder;-0
Ya know if it wasn't for the good folks in here I wouldn't even know MSNBC existed.
A few months back the cable company shuffeled the channels around. I've never remembered where they put it. It is no longer on my speed dial.
As for the folks that tell me Fox is an acceptable substitute?
LOL, sure it is.
They are both the same any more. I just wish CNN would take up the mantle of hard news with a world view. lol
Like that is going to happen.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| August 28, 2008 12:19 PM
Looks like the weather in Denver is fine for Obama's event.
I wonder if all those nutz are still praying for rain.
One of my friends from the Denver Indian center emailed me and said their group was planning to perform a special "No Rain" dance this morning. I hope they remember all the moves. rofl
Posted by: Rezdog
| August 28, 2008 12:20 PM
Rezdog --------------------
Then you can rest easy -- nothing to worry about.
SoetorObama's destruction by his own statements and associations from his "hidden" past will be a pleasure to see. When the Repubs go into full attack mode -- watch out!!! The Obamabots won't know what hit them.
PUMA
Posted by: GORDO | August 28, 2008 12:20 PM
Rez
Is there a hurricane dance for next week?
The idea of a hurricane hitting during the gooper convention with split screen reporting would be fabulous.
(Of course it should be lots of sound and fury but very little actual damage)
Posted by: Katherine Graham Cracker
| August 28, 2008 12:22 PM
KGC,
Let me go look in the book. LOL
Posted by: Rezdog
| August 28, 2008 12:24 PM
"Then you can rest easy -- nothing to worry about."
If they're depending on people like you, I'm booking my flight and rooms for the Inaugural festivities.
Posted by: Rezdog
| August 28, 2008 12:28 PM
Great weather tonight in Denver.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| August 28, 2008 12:32 PM
Jack- Where do you get your news?
Posted by: oldseahag
| August 28, 2008 12:32 PM
Jack,
Be sure to include the G Man or you'll hurt his feelings.
Posted by: Rezdog
| August 28, 2008 12:33 PM
"Remember we R's like to keep our wives in the kitchen and pregnant. Don't you read your own propaganda?"
You know, Fry, back in the 70s some of the strongest feminists I knew and worked with were Republican women. Many of them a generation older than I was. Very smart, very politically savvy. The party divisions meant very little then.
Posted by: Patsi
| August 28, 2008 12:35 PM
About them hurricanes
Looks like the US could get hit with a 1-2 punch first from Gustaf
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at2.shtml?5day#contents
and later in the week Hannah
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at3.shtml?5day#contents
Posted by: whskyjack
| August 28, 2008 12:35 PM
Rez
I've actually been enjoying Gordo this week. In a dancing bear sorta way, if you get my meaning.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| August 28, 2008 12:41 PM
"I just wish CNN would take up the mantle of hard news with a world view. lol Like that is going to happen."
If it wasn't for BBC America and Lehrer I wouldn't know what was going on.
CNN is okay for generic repetitive headlines, sort of the TV version of Associated Press with an occasional good documentary unless you want real depth and MSNBC is the left wing twin of FOX News
Posted by: Jamie
| August 28, 2008 12:44 PM
Rezdog ------------------------
The tone of your post reveals how you really feel -- worried!
Rush is on the attack -- going after the SoetorObama/Ayers connection. Doing a nice job of spreading the TRUTH about this part of SoetorObama's "hidden" past.
PUMA
Posted by: GORDO | August 28, 2008 12:44 PM
It isn't that he is doing it well. It's just that he is doing it at all.
Posted by: Jamie
| August 28, 2008 12:45 PM
Picking Colin Powell would give Obama Oklahoma, Missouri, Kentucky, and the entire Confederacy, as the segregationists who were lured to the republican party by nixon's southern strategy in 1972 would either stay home in 2008, or vote for bob barr.
Posted by: xrepublican
| August 28, 2008 12:47 PM
Day time CNN is about as exciting as watching paint dry.
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| August 28, 2008 12:48 PM
Jamie
And if ya got enough beer, it's entertainment.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| August 28, 2008 12:48 PM
Rez you've noticed that tone of hysteria entering Gordo's post too I see. The idea of a black man named Barack Obama in the White House must have him messing his own pants! LOL
Posted by: BrianInNYC
| August 28, 2008 12:53 PM
OSH
NPR radio, it is on around me almost all day
and on line
McClatchy
Bloomberg
NYtimes
Washington post
Wallstreet journal
And a whole load of specialty blogs.
Jack
Posted by: whskyjack
| August 28, 2008 12:55 PM
CSpan has Obama's foreign policy advisors on -- maybe you would prefer that to the GOP yakfest on the cable news channels.
Posted by: dog's eye view | August 28, 2008 12:55 PM
In case you thought your grocery bills were too high
http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSBKK27922820080828?feedType=RSS&feedName=oddlyEnoughNews
Posted by: Jamie
| August 28, 2008 12:55 PM
G Man,
My candidate just capped off a long hard campaign with a nomination and given this weeks' activities I'm in a rather upbeat mood. Plus, I've been enjoying Jamie's riff on your BS the last couple days.
Excepting my comments directed at you and your continued mis-information (being kind), I thought I was being jovial.
Posted by: Rezdog
| August 28, 2008 12:56 PM
PUMA for GORDO's purpose
Paranoids Unhinged by Massive Acceptance
of Obama!
Posted by: dog's eye view | August 28, 2008 1:00 PM
More from SoetorObama's "hidden" past.
=============================
Obama Muzzling the Media
"... Obama’s camapign has turned its full energy to shutting down any media focus on his relationship with domestic terrorist Bill Ayers. Obama’s ludicrous claim that Ayers was just some guy in the “neighborhood” is being exposed systematically for the lie it is. In fact, Ayers was a mentor and close associate for years and was instrumental in launching first his professional and then his political career. Obama has systematically covered up their links and lied about them."
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/28/obama-muzzling-the-media
Posted by: GORDO | August 28, 2008 1:01 PM
Out of Iraq by 2011. Troops redeploying from Iraq to Afghanistan now. Gustav on the way. Catch he-who-shall-not-be-named in a cave & take care of the victims of the next hurricane...BO's worst nightmare is the GOP cleaning up some of their messes before November...and gordo.
Posted by: blueINdallas | August 28, 2008 1:02 PM
Sorry G Man. . You're didn't make Jack's list.
Jack, I like the notion of the dancing bear, but I keep thinking about those old road runner cartoons when I think of Gordo.
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