Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

Good Afternoon. Let the battles begin. :-)

A name has surfaced in the McCain search for a VP. He is a retired Army General and he is Black.

Now that the fun is over in Beijing, let the Denver 2008 Nerd Olympics begin!

Dog eyes view,
Next time you make false accusations against me, use your own name. And please get over your obsession with me.

Craig, you have a bunch of people who've not ever been elected to anything trying to shove a United States Senator and a President of the United States around.

It ain't gonna happen.

Quite, simply, substantial elected people hold their non-elected script minders in disdain. If it was me, I would tell them to shove it, I'll say what I want to say on your dais or mine.

Rocky Mountain Meltdown!

Most excellent. This will be a great example to the country of how well the democrats can close ranks and do what is best for the country. If they cannot, they do not deserve to govern, particularly when they have demonstrated how to be completely ineffective once they gained a majority in congress.

Well, it sounds like the DNC is going to treat all non-follows of BO like the Chinese treated the media & potential protesters during the Olympics.

Why is the DNC so afraid of FREE SPEECH!?!

Oh, yeah. We're having company so everything needs to look picture perfect even though it isn't.

From BHO's own words;
"Think about the amount of money that China has spent on infrastructure. Their ports, their train systems, their airports are all vastly superior to us now, which means if you're a corporation deciding where to do business, you're starting to think, Beijing looks like a pretty good option."

Obama praising the port systems of China, but who runs these port system, what master of the universe. Dubai Ports World!

Jack- who in your opinion would have been better to feature than Kennedy to rope in the western and heartland voters?

Bowmanc--Truer words have never been spoken.

It was such a relief when Gen. Honore arrived on that terrible scene, that one takes no prisoners.

speaking of china, what was that list of curses?
may the dnc live in interesting times?
may the dnc get the nominee it wants?

"This will be a great example to the country of how well the democrats can close ranks and do what is best for the country."

Bow,
You won't find much disagreement with that sentiment around here. We're all Independents. LOL

Will Rogers once said, I don't belong to a political party: I'm a Democrat! Still true today. Thank goodness!

From the lips of BHO's to your ears:

"We've got to send a clear message to Russia and unify our allies that they can't charge spew other countries with impunity. Of course, it helps if we are leading by example on that front."

BHO, O enlighten-one, please direct me to your base of knowledege where I can find the following answers to your accusations that we (USA) are no better than Russia:

1. Did the Russians go to the United Nations?
2. Are the Georgians in violation of 17 UN resolutions?
3. Did the Russians seek allies at the United Nations for this invasion?

Flatus,

You have a Senator and a Former President outwardly snubbing the people that gave them this power that has clearly gotten to level of addiction that make Rush Limbaugh jealous.

The Clinton's are upset that they had to work to get elected instead of receiving a coronation. Their laziness in this campaign wasn't rewarded and they are choosing to poison the well for the person who deigned to challenge them and had the nerve to win.

The irony is that many Clinton supporters have stated that the Democratic party is too big and I think they want to assure martyrdom for Hillary by creating a party schism akin to the 95 Theses.

Hillary Clinton basically ran as McCain light when it became Obama was for real and while it may have played well to the general crowd, as Ned Lamont proved, it's death with an agitated party base.

She thinks it will be a ticket to the White House but if they insist upon this course of action, I will take a figurative crap in a box and send it to them along with any Bill Clinton memorabilia that I have and I would contribute to any cause that seeks to keep her from the White House.

At one point, Hillary needs to realize that she lost a race to an intern, a butt ugly skank with braces and a whorish lounge singer...she has unfavorable ratings at or just under 50% and she thought she could run a half assed campaign to be president???

F#$@ no...

They go scorched earth that I'm sure someone will start selling "Ken Starr was right after all" tee shirts...

Boy! Ann Lewis is in full tilt Hillary spin mode.

dog,
"I doubt Colin Powell is interested in being McCain's VP"

First off that would be Gen. Colin Powell to you. Second why do you think the General would not want to be McCains VP. Both military guys, both served in Nam.

Come on dog the only reason BHO picked Biden is to pick-off some white guy votes.

Biden BTW has been in DC longer than McCain. I know it is being spun Biden is not a DC insider because he takes the train home every night. LMAO

Dog

What in bejeesus do the Obamabots want Hillary to do. In just the past month she has been in five states speaking on his behalf, when Biden was named VP she immediately issued an email congratulating him and support the ticket. She is releasing all of her delegates before the roll call. What is she supposed to do crawl over hot coals to genuflect?

I'm really starting to think that it is the Obama team that wants the drama and are still feeding their trained media the constant whine.

FD

General Powell is in his 70s. The Republicans will have enough of the "age" factor to deal with in McCain. Second, he has not endorsed either candidate, saying it will depend on the VP selection.

Honore would be a great choice and tempting to many moderate voters.

Bear--You miss my point completely; they could care less about becoming anything at this point. It's become personal.

Oh, I'm sure the "big time TV" folks are figuring out more ways to keep trashing the Clintons, Rez. The race has become so boring they have to come up with something.-Patsi

"And wouldn't you know, it's all about the Clintons."--CC

Craig, Now cut that shit out!

jamie,

"What in bejeesus do the Obamabots want Hillary to do."

You have got to be kidding, what they want Hillary to do? They want her to place the crown on the enlighten-one's head.

"I don't see Obama's supporters behaving like spoiled brats."

No, the ones here generally act like a-holes. But what do I know, dog has pronounced Hillary supporters morally lacking.

And trust me, Bye Bye, when I have anything to say to you I'll use my own name. I knew it wouldn't be long before you'd be attacking Jason.

jamie,

Just because you are 71 doesn't mean your dead. Now maybe you are at 63, but not the General. Oh BTW how old will HRC be in 2016?

You know, making it a little stronger, it's at the point where the DNC won't be happy unless they go to center stage and self-immolate while the Democratic Chorus sings 'What a wonderful day for an auto de fe'.

Damn, Just heard a new one. I got a bunch of research today

PUMAs, Clinton Repugs, McCain Dems, now McCain Lights. lol

Obama will probably lose the election for a variety of reasons.

One of the major reasons is that many of his supporters have taken his lead and have shown great disrespect to the Clintons and the history of the Democratic Party.

I have been involved in every Democratic campaign since I was a child and this is the only year where so much abuse has come from supporters of another party candidate.

For Obama to win, despite these supporters, McCain must implode...which could happen

Craig

It looks like the Obama Folks have lost total control of their message., talk about chaos.
Jeez, if they really want to destroy Clinton let him right his speech and give it. It will be like 88, when he said "in conclusion" he got a standing ovation. Only shrub could make Clinton look like a dynamic speaker.

Jack

It was stolen !!!
============
We Will Not Be Silenced”

"Senator Clinton, by all accounts, except caucuses, won the Primary Election and, therefore, should be the 2008 Democratic Nominee. That didn’t happen, due largely to illegitimate and illegal acts. We have interviews of many accounts from caucus states recounting threats, intimidation, lies, stolen documents, falsified documents, busing in voters in exchange for paying for “dinners,” etc. There are at least 2000 complaints, in Texas alone, of irregularities directed towards the Obama Campaign, that have lead to a very fractured and broken Democratic Party."

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/23/we-will-not-be-silenced/

Yeah Bye_Bye I can second that. Never knew Patsi to use an anonymous nic to let you know what is on her mind.

Bear, your entire post presumes that the media knows ANYTHING about what is going on with the Clintons. If the wish of the media and some of the malcontents like Tom Daschle is to destroy the Democratic party, the first and best way is to praise Ronald Reagan and damn Bill Clinton.

You all must be so proud. Not to mention morally fit.

FD

Nothing wrong with being in his 70s. It is that both candates would be in their 70s and part of the resistance to McCain is his age and the feeling that he needs a younger VP to offset that viewpoint.

Hillary would be in her 70s in 2016 which is why so many saw the Clinton/Obama combination as a natural to give the Democrats 16 years in the WH. Now that is in doubt with Biden as VP unless there is another up and comer in the wings.

I just took my little chinese brain test. The body might be 64, but the brain is 32.... so there.

"Mrs. General Powell "

You've never met Alma.

dog,

1. You are scared.
2. You are living in the past. What you have over looked is the General is a patriot. If asked to serve, the general will serve.

Jamie,

Same test, results 28. So there!!!

whoa..... and just when I was wondering if my summer long boredom with politics was going to continue into the fall...... I guess not..... lol.....

Pogo & Chloe.... to continue from the last thread.... I ran into the person who took over my election job last weekend and we had an interesting conversation about the presidential primary ....... in NH, an independent (actually it's "undeclared") can request either party's ballot and then must return to a group of election officials to sign a paper in order to go back to being independent.....
but there's always a handful of people (4-5) that have already been registered in a party that request to becoming undeclared after they've voted.... she told me they got almost 100 people who did that this last primary and that the bulk of them were Republicans......
I took that as a sign that it's not just Democrats who are fed up with party politics.....

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/08/anatomy-of-a-subplot.html#comment-132947

Okay Flatus, that was funny. Cruel but very funny.

More lyrics please. Savanarola could use the good press.

Colin Powell has no business holding any public office.

His disgraceful, immoral presentation to the United Nations regarding Iraq was one of the most shameful moments in modern American history.

dog,

Now that is a real sign of conviction. Could you be anymore spaghetti like?

"General Powell wanting to be associated with this ticket?
I don't think so, but who knows...."

It is no wonder your in the BHO camp.

Frydaddy,

Colin Powell may be General to you, but the way Bush and the Neocons treated him, they called him only Boy.

McCain could never stand on the same stage as Powell because too many people would be reminded that had the administration let him plan the war in Iraq, the US would be eating Filet Mignon instead of shit sandwich on the world stage.

Patsi,

Their is a certain myopia that exists within the hard cores of any candidate. Any hard core Obama candidate, no matter how slighted they felt, would ultimately vote for whomever the nominee is.

I hear Clinton people talking about voting irregularities in Texas...people are complaining because Obama took the time to learn the specific system of deciding delegates and used it to his advantage.

Obama isn't responsible for the Clinton campaign ignoring the caucuses. He isn't responsible that they failed to plan for anything beyond Feb. 5th. At some point that campaign needs to accept responsibility for running a crappy race. During the Olympics, there was a heavily favored American Boxer who lost because he ran the last minute, thinking he was winning the fight when he was in fact trailing. That was a perfect example of how the Clinton's ran this primary season.

Isn't it very strange that Obama seems to have lost total control over the process. In stead of getting stronger and more in comand he is looking more and more like past Democratic losers. He has got to pull a rabbit out of the hat thursday. That Day should be a day of celebration not a must win performance.

Jack

OD,

Well I am sure your military record, or your service to this country is more impressive.

What did you do in the war daddy? I shoveled shit in Louisiana.

KGC,

For all the history speak here today. (don't take that personally :)) I know you strongly supported Gene in 68. Not that this is an apple to apple comparison, but after he lost to HH , did you support Hubert and if so, when he lost to Nixon what was the one biggest factor to you, for that loss.

Craig, Here's a Sports metaphor:

The Houston Oilers in their hey-day had an offensive concept that was supposed to revolutionize NFL football's winning strategy -- the "Run-&-Shoot" or Shoot & Run, whatever. Led by now-Hall-of-Fame quarterback, Warren Moon, they rolled up the yards and points, but rarely won an important game against a Team with a solid, hit-you-in-the-mouth defense. Close but no cigar, Houston never won the Big One!

Someone more astute than me can reek havoc with this metaphor in terms of the presidential campaign stuggles of the Republicans & Democrats, Obama McCain, Good & Evil, . . . .

Jamie and Fry...

Same test; results 26. So there!

Jamie, it was from Candide. I remember it from the text, but I think there was something in the stage version...too many years. But, it is a fine line--and, every couple of decades, appropriate.

For you older folk...

Who were the players in 68 convention?

Was it basically Humphrey and McCarthy? Where did the Kennedy supporters go?

Bear

Your posts are an excellent example of why the Democratic party is looking like a disaster area.
HRC has said everything that needed to be said, she has actively campaigned for Obama , even knowing that she would not be the VP. After all that, going beyond what any other losing candidate has ever been expected to do, what do we get? It is Clinton's fault.

lol
Clinton is no longer in control, the Obama Campaign and the DNC have made this very clear. They are driving the bus, I think it is time to quit yelling out the window at the Clinton supporters and realize the bus you took control of is going over the cliff.

Jack

From Roger Simon's Relentless article in the Politico...

"It was a campaign that had many people who were knowledgeable about media and messaging but who never
got the math, those tricky little rules that led one candidate to victory and the other to defeat. “Ninety-five percent
of the campaign staff didn’t know the rules,” a top Clinton aide told me. And the 5 percent who did felt nobody
ever listened to them."

Wow...

"this is the only year where so much abuse has come from supporters of another party candidate"

od, better not say that to jimmy.... or to hhh, if he were still alive.

dog,

You are such a BHO gobber. LOL
And that explains your pledge to vote for BHO. Although I do recall you were once a John Edwards fan before he dropped out. I am sure you would agree Edwards dropping out was a wise decision. How many losers are you going to back? You know and everyone knows if the MSM did their job, and reported BHO's unfavorable news, BHO would be back in the halls of Congress doing what he does best...NOTHING. The Wizard of OZ needs to remain behind the closed curtains.

FryDaddy..Have a nice day.

harborwoman,

You must be some sort of astronaut to get that score.

HHH is a great hero of mine..

OD,

I always do.

Off to work..Enjoy

Hey dog,

Question for you. Since BHO with the help of the MSM and the PC DNC stole the election, when do you foresee the next time a female from the D party being nominated for POTUS? My answer. If BHO is not elected then 2012 lloks good, but should he find more gobbers like you, then the answer is, not ever in your life time.

"lloks" passes for "looks" in the public school system.

I may be one of the few Trail-Mix bloggers who can definitively say where the Kennedy's were in the '68 HH-McCarthy contest. The Kennedy's have consistently been Liberal and anti-War. President Johnson had announced early that he would not run or consider re-election. Humprey was his VP and heir apparent. Robert Kennedy was also a candidate but was assasinated in California. RFK's supporters went to McCarthy and, together they lost to HH in a disastrous, although not closely contested, Chicago Convention. What I've always believed, as a Democrat, that in spite of the un-popular Viet Nam War, HH barely lost to Nixon only because another liberal, John Anderson, runnings as a third-party candidate got 5% of the Vote.

At least that's the way I think I remember it!

Another sports metaphor, this time, Golf:
Drive for Show, Put for Dough!

Run with it!

Yes, fry, I am an astronaut...lol!

Why doesn't Nancy P know this? That natural gas and fossil fuels are one and the same. Wonder where she thinks natural gas comes from?

Dog
Point to somebody in her situation that has done more.

Jack

Fry

Beans and cabbage

Jack

Flatulence?

"The Kennedy's have consistently been Liberal and anti-War. "

JFK must have have missed a couple of those bullet points.

Jack,

Butter, beans and bullets.

FD

Whisky...

Perhaps Craig's post was meant to jab a sharp stick into his pet beehive, but if the media is reporting it, they are either reporting facts or are looking to create a story.

Yes I know HRC is campaigning for Obama, but when last week she referred to him as her opponent, that set of alarm bells. If you were a fan of the West Wing, you should remember an episode where the POTUS was unable to hang an 18th century world map because it didn't recognize Israel...a country that wouldn't be founded for a couple hundred years...that made no sense either.

I need to eat something before I pass out...

dog,

"He didn't steal the election"

You are right he didn't steal the election, well not by himself anyways. No BHO had the MSM and, Team BHO, and the PC DNC that helped him. dog trust me I would never give the enlighten-one that much credit to engineer a such a blatant day-light robbery.

"Pulling up McCain's Ass"

Hey dog, is that's yours. lol Comes up clean on a google search.

If I lived in Denver, I'd have my screen printer fired up and make a few extra bucks. In the olden days, that is.

Yo, what test? I wanna play... and I will beat you all. Link please.

Correction that would be,
Bullets, butter and beans.

FD,
Are you talking about Lima beans?

Biden son, Hunter, is a Hedge fund type of person with a salary of over $1,000,000. Hunter is a Lobbyist.
A LOBBYIST???? JOE BIDEN's son????

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&sid=a6QrVqdTZKv4&refer=home

Bubba Frydaddy;
Yes, JFK was a Liberal. He happened to be a Liberal that had credible military and public service = Patriotism and National Security. Bobby didn't, Ted didn't. All Liberals.

Do you really want to fry that egg, G?

It is a grunt thing Rezdog.

Well I was pointing out the anti-war thing. Seems like I remember there was this Bay of Pig issue, and the Cuban blockade, when the US was within a hairs breath of going nuclear with the USSR. Also JFK was a big tax cutter, maybe because old Joe Kennedy was a big business person. Also the word Liberal keeps changing in it's defintion.

dog, hrc is a piker compared to teddy's in conventions passed. here's some of the delegate rangling at the 68 demcon: "Mayor Daley, who wanted Ted Kennedy to run for President, caucused his delegation of 118 the weekend before the convention and decided to remain "uncommitted." ....Humphrey faced a major credentials fights. Delegations from 15 states tried to unseat Humphrey's delegates and seat anti-Vietnman delegates. Humphrey's forces won every fight. There also was manuevering behind the scenes at the Conrad Hilton (where the press and the Democratic party were staying) to try and get Sen. Ted Kennedy to run." http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1996/conventions/chicago/facts/chicago68/index.shtml

Oh yeah how the hell could I forgot this about JFK. VIETNAM. Another place where I spent some time. JFK was far from being anti-war.

New CNN Poll says Presidential Race is a dead heat. Why is this bad news for the Obama Nation? (1) It's tied at 47% - 47%; McCain has never been this high in any poll thus far. (2) While there's no accounting in the Poll for the so-called "Bradley Effect", the probability is that if there is one, it puts Obama behind.

Polls, Polls, Polls. After the Convention we will see a switchover from these generic Registered Voters polls to the slightly more accurate Likely Voters polls and State-to-State polls. Let's see what is happening then.

Fry, When we were offloading ships, we had four priorities. Booze, beans, band-aids, and bullets.

more on teddy's convention activities and party unity:

"The 1980 convention was notable, as it was the last time in the 20th century, for either major party, that a candidate tried to get delegates released from their voting commitments. This was done by Massachuetts Senator Edward M. Kennedy, Carter's chief rival for the nomination in the Democratic primaries, who sought the votes of delegates held by Carter."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_Democratic_National_Convention

dog,

That's a great site. I don't know if you caught it in the comments of an earlier thread, but it gave me a chuckle.

inre: Biden on Ghoul

A noun, a verb and POW

I have four color press in the garage and a flash dryer (no belt dryer anymore). I could make a couple dollars on the side with a timely message in the right locale. Fast, when I young and full of it. lol

Don't remember if we voted in '68. We were in Korea--the year of the Pueblo. If we did, it was for Humphrey. I know I didn't vote in '72--no confidence.

Frydaddy:
Touché! on the Viet Nam War remembrance. You were there? You will no doubt remember that it was supposed to be a policing action under JFK and was escalated to war status with Johnson. And the Bay of Pigs: that was'nt supposed to be a War, was it? We tried not to even get credit for it. It was more like, "That damned CIA . . ." And the Cuban Missile Crisis: Do you think he had a choice? Allowing Russian Missiles 90 Miles from the US Homeland? He would have been impeached. Kruschev had embarassed and out-smarted the Rookie President at every turn, except that one.

JFK was a Liberal from the aristocracy mantra of responsibility, "From those to whom much Is Given . . . ." It is the Kennedy Family Mantra. Public Service is their obligation and reward. Bless their example and hope more wealthy families follow it.

The One Big difference between JFK and his siblings is that he has military experience and had spent time defending a Nation. He achieved Presidency; they did not.

no dog, these posts are not to promote the same results of '68 and '80. but to remember that some of the same people were responsible for those losses and are playing a big part in this coming debacle.

Dog

I'll second on the Teddy run for Prez. "The Dream Shall Never Die" speech as great as it is was at the end of a tooth and nail campaign that tore the party end to end.

Compared to Ted, Hillary is practically a member of the Obama fan club.

I always thought PUMA meant something totally different.

BTW dog you know I am right. he-he-he

Question: When they vet someone to run for office don't they also look into family members just to make sure they are at least living the life style as you have been preaching? Anti lobbyist Joe Biden', his son is a Lobbyist. You mean to tell me BHO couldn't have picked another white guy who's son wasn't an evil lobbyist? And a lobbyist for the even eviler, if there is such a word, drug company's.

A noun, a verb and RAISED BY A SINGLE, WHITE MOTHER*

*on food stamps

HHH is a great hero of mine..

Posted by: Oregon Democrat | August 25, 2008 2:06 PM

Mine as well. When I was VERY young, 12 years old maybe or 14, I can't remember... I read Hubert Humphrey's autobiography: "The Education of a Public Man: My Life and Politics". He spoke passionately of the need for higher education and I took it to heart. Even though I came from a lower middle class family that was not highly educated, I was determined to go to college and get a degree. It took longer than I planned, but Humphrey's book planted the hope of education for someone like me and I am forever grateful.

The last great program that I remember Hubert Humphrey introducing was the Humphrey-Hawkins Full Employment Act which was signed into law by President Jimmy Carter on October 27, 1978.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humphrey-Hawkins_Full_Employment_Act

I was so proud of Hubert Humphrey and admire he as much today as I did as a kid. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubert_Humphrey

When he died on January 13, 1978, I stood outside the St. Paul State Capitol with my sister simply to have the opportunity to show my respect and walk in the rotunda and see his flag draped coffin. It was a bitterly cold January night in the Twin Cities and I remember, to this day, that I was wearing stupid vinyl dress shoes and when I wasn't almost falling over on ice, my toes were almost without feeling. Not the best choice of foot attire, but I remain so proud to have been there.

Yo, Frydaddy;
If you're going to roll that far back, wasn't there a Democratic nominee whose VP-candidate selection resigned? Muskie, Eagleburger??? Not Siro T, who resigned while in the Office.

If then, why not Biden now, when the ticket sinks in the Polls? Can a VP candidate resign after nomination? Can a nominated Presidential Candidate?

"I was so proud of Hubert Humphrey and admire he as much today as I did as a kid."
et, me too. it's always galled me that jfk is given sole credit for what was hhh's original idea, the peace corps.

"did you support Hubert and if so, when he lost to Nixon what was the one biggest factor to you, for that loss."

Rez, for me, 1968 had zero to do with Hubert and Gene. It had everything to do with the criminal conduct of the police in Chicago and the Democrats, led by the Chicago machine, condoning it.

You aren't old enough to remember 1968, the tone and temper of the time. For me it came down to this:

Democrats: criminals in power
Republicans: criminals wanting power

American power structure: equally unacceptable

I was very mistrustful of what Hubert Humphrey might do, wrote in Barry Commoner and make no apologies for it.

JH,

I liked JFK and thought he was ok. Going into Nam, yes I was there, was a good idea, however we should have looked at the French experience a bit closer.

Bay of Pigs, was it a war? That depends on who and where you were. When the the other side side starts lobbing in rockets, bombs, bullets, and your on the beach waiting for your backup who forgot to get the word to show up, or was ordered away you may not call that a war, you may call that a massive cluster "F".

The Cuban blockade the best thing JFK ever did. Glad Uncle Nikita back down, as JFK was ready to launch. JFK had a set of balls and wasn't a bit bashful about using them. BHO is no, not even close, JFK!

Flatus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IrOXId1y5g&feature=related

EuroTom
Thanks for telling your HHH story. A very nice and touching tribute to someone who truly deserves everyone's respect.

It looks like the McCain house joke issue has subsided. Democrats are going to do stuff like this they have to looks to what the Republicans did with the "Kerry joke" Everyone has to be on board and stay on message (no matter how stupid and offensive it might be.) The media took back the agenda and returned to their Clinton obsession. The drinking game is every time a "Clinton surrogate says she on completely on board and the pundit says but I heard she isn't' take a drink. if I started that this morning I'd already be passed out.

I counted six uses of "stagecraft" the most overused and inappriately used word of this political season.

A better media please. Three strikes and off the air!

Champ...Here is the test Jamie and Fry were referencing. Jamie sent it to a bunch of folks last week. It's fun!

This is interesting !!! See if your brain is as old as your body or OLDER !! Read this carefully because the instruction on the site are in Chinese;

Procedure of Flash Fabrica Game:

1. Touch 'start'

2. Wait for the countdown to finish, i.e.: 3, 2, 1.

3. Memorize the number's position on the screen and their numerical order, then click the circle from
the smallest number to the biggest number. This sequence will repeat ~ 10 times until the game ends.

4. At the end of game, the computer will tell you how old your brain is in Years

Good luck !!

http://flashfabrica.com/f_learning/brain/brain.html

"Can a VP candidate resign after nomination? Can a nominated Presidential Candidate?"

jamie, do you know the answer to John Hogue's questio? if gordo's right and o gets swift booted, can biden become pres. candidate and pick hrc for vp?

What is this about the C.O.W.S. at the convention? Something to do with communications? I just saw something in passing and missed details.

Is Craig keeping track of the herd?

Hey printer, I like mine better:

A noun, a verb and POW. rofl

Patsi,

I was curious because I remember I had family/friends that was upset at the Dems (voters) in-fighting whom they felt were responsible for HHH's loss and Nixon's win. Throw in Wallace and JA plus RFK's murder.

BTW, It's not like it was before my time. I was 16, in high school. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IrOXId1y5g&feature=related

Thanks, Jamie, that's it. Of course, not the version I saw fifty years ago. I wonder how much of a sense of humor Voltaire had?

Of course he had a sense of humor/horror. How else could he have written, that, privation after privation, that this is the "meilleur des mondes possibles" -- the best of possible worlds.

cows http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2008/08/holy-cow-wirele.html

patd
thanks for the link...I loved the first comment

"I'm waiting to see the day that PIGS (Pens in good shirts) are put to use by informed and educated reporters .... would that not be a technical milestone!

Posted by: George Stanley Liebowitz | August 25, 2008 at 08:55 AM"

Flatus

It's like the opening to A Tale of Two Cities

Best of times Worst of times.

It doesn't really matter when you live, it always is. Golden years almost always shine only in retrospect.

"Golden years almost always shine only in retrospect."

Indeed

"Some senior Democrats close to Obama, meanwhile, made clear in not-for-attribution comments that they were equally irked at the Clinton operation. Nearly three months after Hillary Clinton conceded defeat in the nomination contest, these Obama partisans complained, her team continues to act like she and Bill Clinton hold leverage"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/michaeltomasky/2008/aug/25/barackobama.clinton?gusrc=rss&feed=commentisfree

LOL
When are they going to wake up and realise she does.
and there is the Obama problem, just like on this blog, a basic refusal to face reality.

Jack

Thanks Patd That explains it.

Is a higher or lower age better on that test? I got 25...

Frydaddy,

If there is one thing the Republican's have shown us in the past 30 years its that when faced with a choice between picking a veteran or civilian, take the civilian... 1988 is the one exception that I can find...

2004 Bush (DD) beat Kerry, decorated vet
2000 Bush (DD) beat Gore, Served in NAM
2000 Bush (DD) beat McCain, POW
1996 Clinton (DD) beat Dole, PH in WWII
1992 Clinton (DD) beat Bush, Decorated in WWII
1988 Bush (Decorated Vet) beat Dukakis schmuck
1984 Reagan (4F) beat Mondale, 2 years in Army
1980 Reagan (4F) beat Carter, USNA Grad
1976 Carter (USNA Grad) beat Ford (WWII Vet)
1972 Nixon (WWII Supply Officer) beat McGovern (Decorated bomber pilot)

So for all the bluster that we need war heroes, when given the choice, Americans and Republican's in particular, don't vote for them.

Bear...

Lower scores indicate a more nimble brain, I assume. Your 25 explains why you so often beat me at Word Twist...lol. I only got a 26.

Thanks, HW. I'll do it tonight after inhaling paint fumes all day and see if I'm still on top of my game.

harbor...

I get dialed into the longer words first...if one comes up with a ton of 3 letter words, i get a little overwhelmed actually...

Great, Champ! After a day of paint fumes, you should score in the 90's!

Frydaddy and Bear,

Let's compromise and call Colin Powell, 'Former Secretary.'

Also, I don't recall george walker bush being deferred. It seems to me, he went AWOL, and was then seperated without criminal charges made against him for his infraction. The records of his desertion then disappeared, much like the records of his arrests on DUIs and Cocaine Posession. Deferred? No, Clinton and Cheney were deferred, no gwb.

"BTW, It's not like it was before my time. I was 16, in high school. :)"

Rez, you're an older old fart than I thought....:)

Bear, not really.

Shrub did NG
Reagan served
Nixon served
Carter served

Being a war hero isn't a valid criterion, otherwise we would have a whole bunch of really stupid people in office.

Quality of service, and level of responsibility while in service are valid criteria. Personal courage and having responsibility for people are both important.

Of all the victors listed, Carter undoubtedly had the most impressive service credentials. And he, IMO, was an abysmal failure.

been around the block with a few spring chickens I guess.

PS -- Rez, I was 23 years old in 1968, working on a masters degree and went with my husband to Germany. I was so disgusted with the US that I really didn't care if I ever returned.

Flatus,

NG was a Draft Dodge...he needed connections to get in...

Reagan was 4F meaning he wasn't eligible. He beat 2 men in Carter and Mondale who both served.

Nixon was a supply officer in WWII and he beat a decorated bomber pilot from WWII.

I read your comments about Carter and it's ironic that many criticize obama for being the next carter when all indicators are that McCain would be that same "failure"

Flatus,

To continue my point. I agree that quality of service is important but the American electorate has demonstrated that it cares more about having a beer with their leader than whether they are competent for the job.

It's part of our celebrity culture and while McCain will use it as a weapon against Obama, were it not for his celebrity status, he wouldn't be in the position he is now.

I wonder how long before McCain's stoner,stalker, creepy guy characters from SNL will find their way into ads...

Cindy Sheehan's phones bugged in Denver....per opednews.com

Frydaddy: "You are living in the past. What you have over looked is the General is a patriot. If asked to serve, the general will serve."

All officers are officers for life. If Former Secretary Powell or any other officer refused to serve the nation during a military emergency, he could be prosecuted.

I am positive that Former Secretary Powell would not have to be asked twice to lead in a military capacity, but to become a political animal, once again working at the whim of Karl Rove, would be an entirely different thing.

Besides, mccain would lose the racist vote if he chose Former Secretary Powell.

Bear

Reagan read scripts in Hollywood for military films. I think he was a captain at the time.

Although I agree about the characterization of Shrub's service, he does have his papers.

The level of responsibilities that Mr Obama has had no way begins to compare with Mr Carter's--nor with Mr McCain's. So, we have to look for some other factors of his persona that make him the superior candidate.

Oh, Bear, I met many fine NG people who served on active duty during the 60s and did a spectacular job. They served without complaint and were philosophical about the jobs and businesses they left behind.

If you're looking for something to watch on tv tonight, the US Open started today.

Besides, mccain would lose the racist vote if he chose Former Secretary Powel

Spoken like a true bigot.

reagan made a couple training films for the army. He wore the uniform.

He also liberated the death camps from his film studio in Menlo, New Jersey. Later, in the Bitburg cemetary, he made up for liberating the death camps by honoring the nazi ss troops - you know - those fun-loving guys who played ruggers with the servered heads of African American servicemen.

Flatus,

That is very true. Unfortunately, W spent his time banging women in Alabama while he was "guarding" our air space...

FryDaddy,

You last post would make Jesse Helms roll over in his grave.

2004 Bush (DD) beat Kerry, decorated vet. BUSH NG
2000 Bush (DD) beat Gore, Served in NAM. BUSH NG
2000 Bush (DD) beat McCain, POW BUSH NG
1996 Clinton (DD) beat Dole, PH in WWII. CLINTON NMS
1992 Clinton (DD) beat Bush, Decorated in WWII. CLINTON NMS
1988 Bush (Decorated Vet) beat Dukakis schmuck BUSH NAVY
1984 Reagan (4F) beat Mondale, 2 years in Army. REAGAN ARMY
1980 Reagan (4F) beat Carter, USNA Grad. REAGAN ARMY
1976 Carter (USNA Grad) beat Ford (WWII Vet) CARTER NAVY
1972 Nixon (WWII Supply Officer) beat McGovern NIXON NAVY(Decorated bomber pilot) and boy did he ever, bomb that is.

damn, stop blaming the Clintons!
if it's so all about obama, let him heal the wounds. HRC has shown her support, and some of her people will follow.
i say again, pissing and moaning about the folks that don't think BHO is ready to lead isn't going to get him any votes.

Bear I was referring to xrepublican's post of 4:22. His is on top and my reply is underneath that..

Saw the author interviewed and this book on Obama looks good and much more balanced than anything we've seen to date

From Promise to Power

http://www.amazon.com/Obama-Promise-Power-David-Mendell/dp/0060858214/ref=pd_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1219696817&sr=8-2

sorry, i started that a while back, it was directed way back there.

so what you are saying is that for all the talk, americans don't vote for the one with military experience? psst, did anybody tell FauxNews that?

LOL I'm listening to my wife instructing her mother that vote for JM in 2008, is a vote to let HRC run in 2012. My mother-in-law is 82 from upper Indiana and has never voted for a R until now, and she runs a D block in her county. I love it! lol

Nelson

You and I are on the same page. For a group that achieved the goal they sought there is more pissing and moaning going on (or they are letting the media run wild with the yowling and carping).

I'm really sorry all the Clinton folks weren't struck blind by the light on the way to Damascas, but get over it. You won.

Me:
"Besides, mccain would lose the racist vote if he chose Former Secretary Powell"

Frydaddy response:
"Spoken like a true bigot."

I made the remark after considering the talk I hear when sitting near the retired and semi-retired, practicing republicans who infest our local McDonald's every morning. Those guys are fond of saying things like, "You watch, if the N****r wins, they're all gonna run wild," and "I vote for white guys."

I'll bet that you have heard that from republicans, too. Anywhat, the racist talk colors my already poor opinion of republicans.

Fry,

You were much more of a soldier than Reagan was...they gave him a uniform so he could feel like a big man while Ted Williams, Bob Feller, Jack Warden, Jimmy Stewart and the real men went off to war.

BTW, I'm sure if you rode on one of his missions your draws would still be brown...

http://commentsfromleftfield.com/index.php?s=deferments

They must be nervous, Jamie.

Is there anyone here who happens to have a really good Sausage & Peppers recipe? No I'm not wanting anything from the Larry Craig/Mark Foley, Ted Haggard dating manual either...

that's what i mean...all the nastyness during the primary was one thing, but give it a rest! obahmaites are stll fighting HRC. duh, are ya'll so NEW to this process that you don't know who your supposed to fight?
forget in 'new democratic party'
i shall become independant

Corey,

I never got a chance to express my condolences after hearing the news about your father...

After my mom passed away when I was a teenager, I went through a major Moody Blues period. These are two of their best...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wltO59I6xcw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dzRdyC0abA

What's the big surprise here that Clinton's are causing trouble..obama did jack SH## about helping to retire the Clinton debt...The chickens are comin home to roost for Obama...besides all that...Hillary was the obvious VP choice and Obama didn't have the stones to make the call...he's not ready to lead

"obama did jack SH## about helping to retire the Clinton debt"

??????
There is a lot Obama should and did do for Clinton but it is her debt.

Jack

"There is a lot Obama should and did do for Clinton but it is her debt"

BHO hasn't release that list of contributors.

xrepublican,

Like i said spoken like a true bigot. See they are misinformed, you need to tell that shouldn't worry them, as i have pointed this out before, A-A between the ages of of 18 on upwards only total 29,000,000. Now those in prison can not vote as well as those who have felony convictions. And as we all know from reading and listening to the MSM that number has got to be in the millions. I'm figuring there are only 15 million A-A who can vote. Minus 8% for those who will vote R. That leaves 13,800,000 to vote for BHO.

Wow, I'm watching Hillary supporters write her political obituary. With every disloyal act, she goes down as a sore loser. I guess this is the death spasms of an era.

I take a back seat to no one in my support of Hillary Clinton for President. I worked as a volunteer and gave money and even traveled to help her win the nomination. It is clear that she will not be the nominee and further that Senator Obama had no interest in nominating her for vp. I am truly disappointed for her and for all women who truly thought that finally we were going to be represented on the democratic ticket. Women make up the majority of the electorate and it is the women which provide the greatest amount of democratic votes. That disappointment is real and deep and the abuse of our candidate by the Obama campaign was real and sexist and unforgivable.

That being said I will be voting for the Obama/Biden ticket in November because I know that his presidency would be better for the issues that I care about. I will be voting for the ticket despite the angy rhetoric and accusations of many that are aimed at Senator Clinton, her supporters and her family saying that she will be responsible for his loss and that she has not done enough for him.

But this is August and if this abuse continues by his so called supporters then my voting intention is subject to change so to all of the Obama team. Cut it out. Leave us alone and quit telling us to be good little democrats and vote for the ticket. Quit blaming our candidate for his shortcomings and quit using her as the scapegoat for Obama's poor showing thus far.

The irony of it all is that Clinton had brought the "Reagan democrats" home to the party and the Obama campaign calls them racists and uneducated and now wonders why they are going back to the Republicans. They now have picked Biden to bring them back again but the Obama people are now calling the uneducated closet racists and blaming Hillary Clinton for their reluctance to fall in line. There were many who said throughout the primaries that calling everyone who did not support Obama a racist was not a good strategy but they did not listen.

I hope the Regan democrats are not gone for good. Maybe Biden can help. Clinton would have been a better choice but Biden was the best available after Clinton. But I notice that the accusations against Clinton, Hillary and Bill are still in the air and on the web.

Jo

Very well said.

More from Roger Simon's Politico article
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

"The Clinton campaign feared and loathed caucuses, where people had to show up and vote all at the same time.
Most caucuses also banned absentee or early voting. The Clintons, who had not complained about caucuses in
the past, now saw them as the embodiment of evil. “I talked to Hillary in Nevada [a caucus state] before an event,
and I thought venom was going to shoot from her mouth,” one of her staff members said. “She hated caucuses:
They underrepresented the working poor, her supporters had jobs to go to, they were waitresses and day care
workers. ‘We should have fixed the rules! The caucus system skews to the wealthy!’ she said. But the bottom line
is, the rules are the rules, and you can’t not compete because you don’t like the rules. We looked like whiny
babies.”

Seven of the Super Tuesday contests were caucuses, and Obama would end up winning every one of them
except American Samoa."

Not to get all Gordo on you, but here's more...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Though some in the Clinton campaign were quite pleased with the campaign’s messaging operation -- Hillary
would be the candidate of experience and strength -- some of those in attendance at the retreat felt the campaign
was lacking something: an actual plan to win the Democratic nomination for president.

“It was eye-opening,” one person in attendance said. “The political and field operations were dysfunctional. There
was not enough staff, the staff that existed was too junior, and there was no plan. There was no political or field
plan on how to win the nomination.”

“It was totally f***ed up,” another said. “There were growing pains, and they had to up the talent level of who was
supervising these kids.”

For the Clinton campaign, it would be a long, tough slog. “It was joyless,” one of her top advisers told me. “It
wasn’t a happy campaign even when she was winning.”

“We assumed they knew what they were doing,” one of Clinton’s top fundraisers said of the campaign’s political
operation. “They didn’t know jack.”

Yeah that's the ticket. Can't beat McCain so keep beating Clinton.

Before this year I NEVER watched Fox but found the networks so biased against the Clintons that I have entirely given up all NBC/MSNBC and CNN network news. To my surprise Gov. Ed Rendell stated on Fox that is was CLEARLY the most balanced network. The misogyny and Hillary bashing was so disgraceful and disturbing I was glad to find some refuge from it on Fox.

PUMA/Clintons4McCain

toast

I think the democratic party is broken, the MSM as neutral as Brazile and Clyburn. Obama has lost my vote by his inexperience and arrogance. Some imply that not voting for "The One" is somehow a character flaw, I can happily live with that.

They can't think of one good thing to say about their candidate, so they hang around here all day griping about Hillary, never giving her supporters a chance to make a transition. They know their guy can't do it by himself so they prepare to blame someone else. The new Democratic Party.

"After my mom passed away when I was a teenager, I went through a major Moody Blues period."

Sorry to hear that, Bear. That's a tough time to lose a parent. When my nephew -- a pretty wild child -- died at 24, I listened over and over to that odd little pop song -- Seasons in the Sun, I think it was.

Ok B, i'll be in and out

Obama campaign says " The Clintons are not a the problem"
The morons here can't stay on message. No wonder the campaign is tanking. The rabid supporters are only rabid about destroying the Clintons.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGwN9F3960Q&e

why complain if i am a puma?
i don't agree with the 'new democratic party'
barfff
every party has to start somewhere...so i a m a puma.
the holy one isn't impressing me.
still

The so called Obama Democrats are pushing us to this. First they push us out of our own party, then they push us to not vote for their guy. Keep it up guys. See where it gets you.

yeah!

Apparently Sen. Clinton met with her NY delegation today and totally rejected the McCain commercials running and gave her full support to Sen. Obama.

I'm really starting to think this is a combination of Clinton haters and media telling a story that isn't really there. Once they get over their snit fit, the largest percentage of the PUMAs that are real Democrats will vote for Obama unless the Obama folks keep up this incessant whine about Hillary.

Tweety is hanging out interviewing fringe folks who couldn't get in the convention. Fan the flames. Fan the flames. Fan the flames.

Meanwhile the DNC is bugging Cindy Sheehan's hotel room. Whatta great party we're turning into. Obama/Nixon '08!

What else could happen when the Obama crowd based a whole campaign on hate.

"you want to hang with the rest of us and watch the convention you're more than welcome"

Only if you let me rag on Patsi & Jamie some more?

just kidding. lol

NEW THREAD

I find it odd that after reading for months that my vote isn't important to Obama or the democratic party because of the new paradigm of winning the red states, all would be well if I humbly did their bidding.

PUMA/Clintons4McCain

toast

Here's some of the latest Rasmussen polls

http://www.presidentpolls2008.com/

NEW THREAD

Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | August 25, 2008 5:53 PM

The youtube of Clinton talking to the delegation is posted here

Linda Douglass, who used to work at ABC and NBC, and left the news business and went to the Obama campaign. Linda Douglass said of Joe Biden, he's not a Washington insider. "Joe Biden goes home every night to his family in Delaware, takes a train home. He's not of Washington."

Ed Rendell at a forum yesterday afternoon pointed out that MSNBC is in the tank for Obama and it's embarrassing.
Lou Dobbs on CNN said, "My colleagues are in the tank for Obama."

Biden in June of 2006 on Meet the Press talking about the Haditha massacre.

Russert: "Let me ask you a question on Iraq about Haditha, some of the other alleged atrocities. The fact is, our government knew about that for some time. How high up the chain, based on your information, do you think this goes?

Biden: "Secretary of Defense."

Russert: "What should be done about Rumsfeld?"

Biden: "He should be gone. He shouldn't be in his office tomorrow morning, but I'm so tired of saying this on your show. I've been saying this for two years." "Well, the president knew about Haditha in March." "Well, we can't get rid of the president. He's there for two and a half more years. There's a system of accountability. The system of accountability is it used to be a gentlemanly thing, as they say, when you make serious mistakes, you step forward, you acknowledge them, and you walk away. Presidents can't and shouldn't do that. Secretaries of Defense can and should."

Eight of the Marines charged for that so-called massacre and the cover-up have already been exonerated. One case is still pending. Using Bidens own synopsis, Biden then should step down as he has made mistakes, he was wrong on the surge, he was wrong on Haditha.

BIDEN: In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans, moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I'm not joking.

Washington Post editorial board. October 25th, 2007. Question: "Can I ask you something on that point? If you were to look at the educational results of schools in Iowa, you would find that they're some of the best in the country. Washington, DC, pays teachers substantially more, so clearly there's more to it than just we're not spending enough money."

BIDEN: You have to start off with what they start off with. There's less than 1% of the population of Iowa that is African-American. There is probably less than four or five percent that are minorities. What is it in Washington?

REPORTER: I think it's the vast majority.

BIDEN: Yeah. So, look, it goes back to what you start off with, what you're dealing with. When you have children coming from dysfunctional homes, when you have children coming from homes where there's no books, where the mother from the time they're born doesn't talk to them, as opposed to the mother in Iowa who is sitting out there and talks to them, the kid starts off with a 300 word larger vocabulary at age three. Half this education gap exists before a kid puts a foot in the first classroom.

Since Obama, has taken over The Democratic Party, and made it his own, seems to me it would only be right that he be the one to heal The Party. Sen. Clinton, has done everything she could possibly do, short of kissing his ass. Obama supporters should just be happy that he is The Pursuptive Nomination, but no they still have to run Sen. and President Clinton names through the mud. I don't really care if Obama wins in Nov, because if he doesn't you wont blame him you'll blame her. So therefore we can not vote for a Democrat again till hell freezes over for all I care. See you might be able to hold a grudge, but you better stop and think that goes both ways. So you might just be cutting off your noses to spite your face. P. U. M. A. means PUTTING UP With Michelle's ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi, Craig! After the sexist debacle at MS/NBC, you are the only commentator we trust, and it's nice that you actually read your blog entries. My wife and I were Hillary supporters to the end, and she is still toying with the idea of voting Green or writing-in Hillary as a protest. I'm too much of a life-long Dem not to vote for Barama despite his deficiencies, because the last thing I will support is four more years of McCain/Bush!

I do hope the Republicans keep up their latest line of attack, using Hillary's own words and the disappointment of her supporters as a rationale to vote for McCain. My wife is stubborn in her desire to finally vote for someone she really believes in, but I honestly think she and other die-hard Hillary fans will not take kindly to doing the bidding of the scumbag Rove operatives John McCain has given the management of his campaign to, so keep running those ads, John, and don't worry about how many homes you and Cindy own!

As far as I'm concerned to only one's showing Sen. Clinton an ounce of respect is The McCain Camp. Right noe Rove is no more of a scumbag, then Obama, his campaign, his supporters, or The DNC. All I know is come Tuesday and Wednesday Night, not one person better Boo, The Clintons, or there will be HELL to be paid. So Obama, you had better get a tight rein, on your Devil-Worshipping Supports!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How hard would it have been to seriously consider her or appear to? Give me a break! He should have played this better. Think about this argument--she didn't want to play unless she was seriously considered, so we didn't consider her? It's ridiculous. Obama was arrogant once again. As a Hillary supporter is just solidified for me why I am voting McCain.

If you are wrong, will you admit that you you often do not know what you are talking about?

What piss poor writing. Do you scour the papers and create a collage or do you actually write anything original?

for a voter like me, not a pundit, the reason the controversy has erupted is that obama selected biden for vp, another senator who is no better than hillary on multiple fronts. she is better than biden on the economy, received millions more votes than he did, is would be more formidable as an "attack dog" and is just as knowledgeable on foreign affairs. and given the 'obama is not ready to be president" and other comments sure to be used by the Republicans, he seems like a poor substitute for hillary.

if obama had gone with a governor, or someone with military experience at least that could be used to explain his rejection of hillary.

As a former rabid Clinton supporter who now supports Obama, why do I get the feeling that most of you are using Clinton as a smokescreen simply to avoid supporting Obama because of his race?

You bastards ought to be ashamed of yourselves.

I think that the Hillary supporters need to be careful. After all, there are 15 million Obama supporters, as well. If Obama loses this thing, and the loss can be traced to Hillary or her supporters, then she is going to have a hard time in 4 years even getting nominated.

Can't we all just get along for the sake of the country?

It's like that old expression. When the Democrats line up for a firing squad, it's usually in a circle. I certainly hope that it's not true this time.

If Obama loses this, I want to be able to get fully behind a Hillary ticket in 4 years. Please let's unite.

I just love how you ended this blog entry:

"And it gave the media what they can never resist - a nasty fight involving the Clintons."

Don't you mean it gave YOU what YOU can never resist? Ha!

The circus just keeps on setting records for entertainment value!

The circus just keeps on setting records for entertainment value!

http://stubbornfacts.us/politics/2008_election/circus_week_short_takes_day_2

After September 11th, the media cowered before Bush - Craig Crawford included. For years, no guts, not a bit of leg-work to cover the rush to war, the incompetance, the corruption - just meek, sheepish cowardice from Mr. Crawford. He's found his courage in time to . . . fabricate a personal drama, allege unsubstantiated nefariousness about the Clintons and do all he can to help John McCain get elected president without having to lift a finger. Nice work, jack-ass.