Craig Crawford's Trail Mix

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Craig,

Have not heard you comment on Helen Thomas. Is she now out of hospital? How is she faring? Give her our love and best regards......

Julie

Powerful statement, Craig. Thank you for reminding us not to be dazzled by fake fireworks and perfect teeth no matter how aesthetically pleasing to the eye.

Mao must be spinning in his grave.

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What the world keeps forgetting much to its sorrow is that China has been a world power for thousands of years. The form of its tyranny may change but the basic nature is to be cooperative as a society and think long term. Through all the cycles it continues to rise again with it's millions of miles and millions of people

In a global world where corporations look to the next quarter, it might be in their interest to watch closely a country that is thinking about the next century.

...and remember how Jimmy Carter pulled USA out of the Moscow 1980 Olympics?
What I wonder about is how could the swim-cube have cost $200 million to build?
Another fiasco is how the hosts make people stand outside a venue for DAYS hoping for tickets to a cherished event...denied tickets...and over HALF the seating areas are empty. Nearly all the VIP seats are empty for ALL the events at all the venues.

Craig - not sure that I agree with your conclusions, altho I'm with you on points.

There's legitimacy and there's reality. I don't see letting China host the Olympics as conferring the former as it is dealing with reality. China is there and is humongous and it isn't going away. It also isn't going to change just because we won't play with it. In fact, it might take its toys back.

Also, Mexico City hosted the Olympics - and its government is repressive and corrupt as the day is long.

But there's another side to this, and that is what the world is seeing of China, and I don't mean tourism.
It gives me chills to think of the determination to best us in medals - the rigidity of the government is not a pleasant thing to think of. Those athletes lives have not been their own since they were born; it makes a nice medal count but the cost is obvious. Those poor people exist for the glory of the state, not vice versa, and it is obvious. A little girl is not pretty enough to sing in front of the world? That world knows how to interpret that.

One more thing I found chilling was the opening show.
It was gorgeous to look at but beneath the beauty was the automaton like performances of the people, and the great number of people. I find it hard to concieve of that many people - it's its own planet. The size of China's population is important not only because of the need to feed it. I wouldn't mind seeing China become a federation of states, broken down into units of a size that can be worked with.

China's cheating and problems are open now more than ever before.

Jimmy Carter pulled out of the Moscow games because Moscow invaded Afghanistan, not because it was an authoritarian government. They timed it better this time.

Craig,

Considering that China could at the drop of a hat, become a Lorena Bobbitt to the economy's of most country's in this world, it's not a surprise that everyone is going out of their way to try and legitimize the government there.

I suppose that one advantage that the Chinese have over the Russians and Nazi's is that they have so many of their citizens firmly entrenched in the US. Heck, one of the first things I looked for after my move to Texas was the comfort of a Chinese restaurant.

I think that they benefit from the fact that many American kids have had some type of connection to Chinese culture though Kung Fu movies or Bruce Lee and there was never any type of crossover star for the USSR or the Reich.

All in all, I think many people realize that they can't beat China economically right now so they are content to beat them in the field of athletics instead...

*Breaking* Photo Documents Barry Soetoro: Indonesian Citizen, Muslim Religion [Update with Translation]

"This AP photo is compelling evidence of the following assertions, which have been set forth on this blog:

1. Barack Obama had Indonesian citizenship

2. Barack Obama had the legal name Barry Soetoro

3. Barack Obama was a Muslim, despite his “fight the smears” claim that he never has been.

In addition, it means that Barack Obama apparently lied to the Illinois Supreme Court when asked to provide former names, according to this Attorney's Registration Record:"

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/08/13/breaking-photo-documents-barry-soetoro-indonesian/#comment-7488

hahaha! I had a burr up my ass 4 years ago and boycotted watching even a minute of the Athens Olympics...and now I cannot remember what I was mad about!
I wouldn't have watched this one either but for my daughter's fascination with it...and I admit I have been captivated by the gymnastics and many other events.

"And now it is China, a regime no less tyrannical than the hosts in Berlin ..."

Wow...is China really THAT bad? Yikes!

I am no Sinophile...hell, I don't even know who China's leaders are any more.

Ah, Craig, you are an eternal optimist in many ways. Don't you realize that nobody beyond a few patchouli-wearing hippies from Berkeley really care about what's going on in China, or anywhere else, for that matter? As long as the pizza comes in 30 minutes or less, we can download 'My Humps' as our cellphone ring tones, and gas prices are less than what minium wage is per gallon, we'll all continue to be distracted by the shiny bells and whistles that are the Olympics. Hell, just this morning I had to explain to someone that Georgia was ALSO a nation to the north and east of the country of Turkey, and NOT JUST A STATE IN 'MERIKUH and that the state of Georgia, USA, was NOT being invaded by Communists from Russia.

I shit you not.

Please excuse my bitterness, but I am still quite disgusted by this morning's conversation. If I haven't slit my wrists by morning, it'll be a goddamn miracle.

Julia - was this person you talked with having hissy screaming fits of fear, and ready to go fight off the evil monster Russia? I'm sure you were angry - I can tell by the way you wrote, but I have to laugh at how a person might react to being found so ignorant. I do hope this person isn't a teacher!

Jamie - I agree that so far China seems to want the approval of the world. We certainly can't afford to smack her in the face.

Good Morning Craig!

I think it is shortsighted to make this statement.... China is China and wil remain China.

The US has an open culture but lots is wrong in this country. Texas is putting people on deathrow like it is nothing.
I mean we mustn´t be too teary eyed when we talk about China.
We in the US don´t seem to be better...If ya catch my drift.

Sorry, hope I don´t step on peoples toes with my assertion

Jason - I'm not sure which statement you think is short-sighted, Craig's or what you thought I meant?

I'm not teary-eyed about China at all. I'm gob-smacked by the size of her population. She has a
phenominally interesting and even awesome history, but anyone studying it has to be strong when the numbers of dead start rolling out.

No matter what, you sure didn't step on my toes. You were adding to the conversation and that's what I'm here for. Keep on talking.

Oh, yeah, I'm also wary as hell of her.

Chloe,

Sorry. Typo. "You're one of the best."

In regard to China and the Olympics--

I read that there is a big problem with low attendance at the Olympic events.
I saw pictures of all the empty seats and rows and rows of empty spaces in the stands at many of the events.

Not sure why the sparse turnout, but it's an embarrassment to the Chinese government according to the news report.

Hey Beth..
I was referring to the blog started by Craig. I think we should stop trying to think that China is all bad. We often forget how cruel we in the US are with regards to human rights.
I thik it is hypocritical to continue to slander China, while we are not fairing better in the US.

I know the statement I made will not be liked by many, but frankly it is only my opinion.

Don´t worry all, we only have to live with Ricey for another 4 months...LOL :-)

In regard to China and the Olympics--

I read that there is a big problem with low attendance at the Olympic events.
I saw pictures of all the empty seats and rows and rows of empty spaces in the stands at many of the events.

Not sure why the sparse turnout, but it's an embarrassment to the Chinese government according to the news report.

Posted by: prof marcia | August 14, 2008 3:02 AM

That is very true marcia.....

But I cannot seem to understand why, some three months ago, we got news broadcasts from all over stating that everything was sold out....Huh?

Last week RTL news here in Holland siad that hotels were lowering its prices from roughly $700 a nigt to $ 200 a night.....

That's weird about empty seats at venues, and hotel rooms chopping prices! I can imagine a few possible reasons, but I bet it goes back to government control.

I don't think they have the idea of "free" market down very well.

Centralization of power sounds good but can sure wreak havoc, as Russia so slowly learned.

Jason,

Thanks for your comments.

Don't you think this lack of attendance is curious?I wonder what exactly is going on--I mean why haven't wealthy Europeans and Americans supported
the Olympics this year by traveling to China?
Could it be they are boycotting because of China's politics?

Hmmmm.

I ma thinking dofferently...

The government bought their own tickets, trying to make it look like it was sold out.
Why?
The less people travel to China, the less interference they will have. The more people come to China (foreigners) the more they will lose control over their people etc.......I mean China doesn´t need the money, their industry can bring it up by themsleves. The only thing they need was the attention and that is exactly what they got......
It may be farfetched by my gut tells me this......

Jason,

Your take on this lack of Olympic attendance is very interesting. I never would have thought of your points.

But, why aren't the Chinese people showing up to these Olympic events?
Wouldn't they want to show a unified front to the world?

But, why aren't the Chinese people showing up to these Olympic events?
Wouldn't they want to show a unified front to the world?

Posted by: prof marcia | August 14, 2008 3:50 AM

Marchia, do not forget that these people have to work 12 hours a day. They have no time. The people who attend are either wealthy, have received sponsored day cards from special sources are have taken holidays(reed as: they are wealthy and can afford it)

There was a story on BBC1 about a mother and a father of a youngtser in gymnastics who were not allowed to go to the gym events because their boss refused to give them one day off.
And exactly this is what China is a bit afraid of.....

I wonder what size bribe the Olympic Gangsters got from the Red Emperor for allowing this gaudy fiesta of empty seats, underage gymnasts, and commie propaganda to metasticize in the highly carciniogenic atmosphere of Beijing.

And, I marvel that the Ministry of Propaganda's Chief Eunuch can call the Tibetans and Uighurs "Chinese citizens," while simultaneously preventing Tibetans and Uighurs from coming anywhere near 'their' capital, Beijing.

It's long past time for the decent nations to pull the plug on the Olympics and the Red Emperor.

Let a thousand flowers wilt.

Good work, Craig. Please keep

Why isn't the Red Emperor Mao on the Chinese swim team ? He could swim 43 knots/hr when he was an obese and comatose vegetable in the 60s. Today he can probably only manage 10 knots, 'cuz he's even more fully dead. It'd still be fast enough to take the gold.

LMao! And, ROF too.

Jason,

Again, you make some very good points. The average Chinese family
probably couldn't go to most of the Olympic events.

prof marcia,

Ya, they probably have to work at the sweatshop 12 hours a day to enrich the commisar. The commisar can't go because he has to watch the wage slaves.

The only ones who have the time to go are those lazy Tibetan lamas and Turkoman mullahs. But, of course, Beijing is off limits to Tibetans and Turkomans for the duration. Huit clos.

Trailmix challenge: Try to go one month without buying anything "made in China."

Russia is thumbing its nose at us in Georgia, China is taunting us at the Olympics, droves of Europeans are coming here for frenzied shopping vacations because our cheap currency makes us the new Mexico for bargains.

How the mighty have fallen. Thank you BushCo!

I agree that China shouldn't have been given the games. Should China really have been rewarded with all of our manufacturing jobs, either? I actually have to give W a tiny pat on the back for statements about Sudan, religious freedom, etc.

The games may lead to more interaction with the West by more people, but that isn't going to change decades of social structure. More & more of the Chinese people are now "given" a new prosperity from their gov't. The change in the market may mean KFCs on every corner, but if the good people of China are still fearful of their gov't and feel beholden to it at the same time, I wouldn't expect any big moves toward democratization over there.

North Koreans don't have the prosperity of the Chinese, but both stay in lock step with their gov'ts (a sort of Stockholm syndrome, taking on the identity of their oppressors)...it's just that the gov't of China now pays it's people to maintain order.

There was a news story about the schools destroyed in the quake being bricked up and reporters sent away. One of the parents whose child died, presented a document from the Chinese gov't offering the equivalent of $9,000.00 for their loss...if they signed a contract not to protest & to maintain social order.

Report on NPR asking folks at the Olympics had heard about the American who was murdered. Some had not. Those who had, decided to wear clothes with their home flags or colors to make sure people didn't mistake them for one of us.

*I finally understand why the Hil'ry memos came out. Party kool-aid drinkers decided the best way to diffuse Hil'ry supporters BEFORE the convention was to show discord in her campaign & cause folks to question whether BO isn't just as capable to hold the office. (The answer is, no he is not. I've always voted Dem...except when I voted in a Rep primary so that I could vote against Dick Armey...but I won't vote for the worst possible candidate, so it looks like that will change this year.)

gordo - Why don't you contact Fox News with all of those little tidbits about BO? Or, better yet, pop off an e-mail to the Nat'l Enquirer, the most reliable journalist outlet of note.

But gordo, based on BO's statement about people clinging to religion because they are bitter, I'd have to say that he's more likely an atheist than a sleeper cell of one. Joining that church in Chicago was just politically expedient. He's a snake for sure. There's your biblical reference for BO.

good morning gang....

right now I've got a big mother wild turkey with 8 chicks underneath my bird feeders.... of course.... the chicks are about the size of large hawks.....

good TM Craig..... but China could give a rat's ass what we think of it....

I'm personally finding these Olympics boring..... once you've seen one synchronized diving event, you've seen them all..... and beach volleyball is about as exciting as watching a John McCain speech...... by the time they get to the good stuff it's 11pm here on the east coast.... and past my bedtime.....

hey sturg and Lardass.... reading your exchange from last night almost made me piss my pants!...... thank god I wasn't drinking my coffee yet.....

good TM Craig..... but China could give a rat's ass what we think of it....

renee

I think that's on the menu of most chinese restaurants, idnit?

Interesting in that it is even posted, but not surprising article - Study: Media Covered Up Rev. Wright's Extremism
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/media_coverup_wright/2008/08/12/121354.html?utm_medium=RSS

Julie Young is in the house with a G-rated sex story at Lardo's Retreat!

http://lardosretreat.wordpress.com/

blueINdallas,

"I've always voted Dem. . .but I won't vote for the worst possible candidate,
so all that will change this year."

I feel exactly as you do. And I've always voted Democrat, too.

More intimidation-
http://heidilipotpourri.blogspot.com/2008/08/bearing-witness.html

OSH

While the Reverend Wright may have been underplayed by the media. I saw several stories about him last fall. At least enough for me to know there was a problem. I think the NYT did a piece.

Jack

Ok, some one send me the last 15 Maureen O Dowd oped´s...
This is actually really sick. You know...if ya read them at different times...it is no fun.
Read all of them after another...You immediately see that this is one crazy female whos only destiny is to hang Hillary...I am laughing all the way to the store on this one..... :-)

Okay okay...back to the olympics, Seeing that Roger Federer is on the brink of being eliminated by american James Blake.....

The Rev. Wright disappeared so fast he only wound up with 8 1/2 minutes of fame.......really weird.......

Check out these shoes(flip flops)...too cute!!

http://www.hotflops.net/

I'm on a national focus panel and just answered a survey about the Olympics. I got a chance to register my concern about China being the location for the Olympics this year.

Speaking of Maureen Dismal Dowd, I noticed that a few of the hardcore
Obama supporters consistently link Dowd's articles here on Trail Mix.

Yet, last Sunday when Dowd wrote a snarky column attacking John Edwards, links to Dowd curiously dried up for a couple of days.

Jack, I do know I started watching FOX last winter and Hannity complained regularly that the networks wouldn't cover it. I stopped watching them, so I can't say what they were up to!

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/08/an-olympic-dream.html#comment-127975
Good morning.
Marcia, I noticed that myself.

Breaking the press
Democrats need to look past the media's feel-good coverage of Obama and deal with the realities of the campaign

"The dominant narratives of this race have been how Obama upset the odds (and the Clintons) through a brilliant campaign, and how McCain mostly stumbled his way to the nomination, staging a comeback in New Hampshire and riding the momentum to victory. But maybe that’s not what really happened..."

The Real Story.....

http://thephoenix.com/Providence/News/66417-Breaking-the-press/

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/08/clintons-folly.html#comment-127883

viv, Thank so much for the posts last night. I hadn't looked at the link on first one when I originally saw it (because I knew it would be something really disgusting) When you asked in your next post if anyone had looked at that link, I went back and viewed it.

Seeing it tells me exactly who 'Get Help' is. (He is the one desperately in need of help.)

I don't think some people understand that when you're rude to one person on this blog, you are rude to everyone here.

I don't think some people understand that when you're rude to one person on this blog, you are rude to everyone here.
chloe

he understands.......it's his raison d'etre to be as rude as he can to everyone who is comfortable and having fun posting here......the words "miserable worm" come to mind.

Sturge....
I think they do

However: if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, act like a duck.....Dont look any further...It is a duck! :-)

Will the Party of Clinton ever become the Party of Obama?

"It has now been more than two months since Barack Obama secured the Democratic presidential nomination yet here we are, still fascinated with Bill and Hillary Clinton and what they're up to. Why?
...... This makes me sick. This circular firing squad that is occurring is unattractive, unprofessional, unconscionable, and unacceptable.

All this leads you to wonder who will write the new memo that would begin with the words: "STOP IT!" Both Hillary Clinton and Obama have a lot to lose if the spirit of the rest of the memos affects her thinking now."

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/08/will_the_clintonobama_feud_con.html

Lushis -- I saw those in a funny piece that just aired on CNN. I don't think I'd want to wear either of those on my feet. Something about those disembodied heads looking up my dress...yuck...

Obama was pictured on the beach in wearing black "slippas" which in Hawai'i are called "Locals." Cheap black rubber flipflops (don't call 'em that in the islands) purchased at Longs for $5.99 a pair. Major island cred in those.

http://www.hawaiianlocals.com/products.html

well put sturge

chloe

Good opinion piece.

This caught my eye and is something that is often recieves little attention

"he could count on solid support in the African-American community that would guarantee him more than a third of the delegates needed to nominate. That’s one heck of a benefit, and he took advantage of it."

It is important to have a good understanding of past history and not fall for the media fairytales.
JMO

Jack

The Democrats are morphing into the The Obamacrats.

The McClatchy Olympics blog has several good China stories.

http://washingtonbureau.typepad.com/olympics2008/

Jack

Alicia Knight

I just ordered the McCain flipflops...to show my support of McCain, of course ;~)

"Cheap black rubber flipflops"

Alicia,
I had to laugh when I read your description. That's almost all I wear for about 6 months a season here in Houston. (the same during all those years in Southern California). Cheap black rubber flipflops.

Linda, If we knew who was going to win the election, we could stock up on the right ones and hand them out as Christmas presents.:)

chloe,

Good information in the link you posted---Obama, "The Real Story."

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/08/an-olympic-dream.html#comment-127986

Jack, that Olympics blog you linked REALLY is a nice find. The stories are great. (Thanks) I really enjoyed this one:

"The deep gulps of air and fighting back of tears as Phelps stood proudly upon the podium as US anthem the Star Spangled Banner rang said it all."

Michael Phelps: Life in the fast lane
http://en.beijing2008.cn/news/special/features/n214538178.shtml

Chloe

I liked the one about how China is handling its smog problem by redefining it as haze.
A fun read

Jack

That site should keep me busy for hours Jack.

I don't know the format or rules on picking an Olympic site, Does the US have control over that? Having stated that, I don't see any advantage of keeping our athletes competing from our country. I can't imagine the hard work, dedication and sweat that goes into training. And our athletes are not compensated by our government!! How can we deny them? Going into another country for this world competition does not mean that we support their form of government. If this Olympics gives China a world stage, maybe it could have a good effect on their country. The world can see them for what they represent OR maybe the people of China can see their government a little better. Just a thought.

Dissecting the Plate Lunch -- Obama's artery clogging junk food of choice. If Obama keep ate up with dekine grindz everyday he'd no longer be the skinny candidate.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/zenzenok/98076943/

“I’m going to get a plate lunch. I might go to Zippy’s. I might go to Rainbow Drive-In. I haven’t decided yet. Get some Zip Min. I’m going to go get some shave ice.” Mr. Obama told a crowd who had gathered hours before his arrival in Honolulu.

Zippy's Zip Min: Our own special recipe with noodles, wun tun, vegetables, fish cake, dried seaweed, egg, sweet pork, green onions and breaded shrimp.
http://www.zippys.com/menu/menu.asp?id=enjoy

The badminton match between Japan and Korea was the most exciting thing I've seen so far. Tremendous women athletes on each side.

"Just a thought." Posted by: theresa43 |

Your thoughts make good sense Theresa.

Alicia, When I went to Hawaii (a good number of years ago), I actually lost weight during that week or so we were there. It's probably changed now, but back then you could not order a salad or anything with lettuce to save your life. I had trouble finding food I liked there, but then I probably didn't know where to look.

gotta go. Have a good day.

Obama Lies to Ill. Supreme Ct. about Former Name?

"If the AP document showing that Barack Obama was once Barry Soetoro ... is legitimate, it would appear that Obama/Soetoro lied to the Illinois Supreme Court when he registered for the Bar.

As this form shows, Obama did not provide information about his former name, Barry Soetoro: (see at link)

On July 24, we reported on a lawsuit challenging Obama’s truthfulness on his Illinois Bar application for failure to disclose drug use and other criminal activity."

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/08/13/obama-lies-to-ill-supreme-ct-about-former-name/

Gordo

when this hobby of yours gets too boring here is a list of exciting hobbies you might want to look in to.
http://www.about.com/hobbies/
Jack

Playing the electorial math Karl Rove syle

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121867218820238903.html?mod=rss_opinion_main

Jack

GORDO keeps flogging that poor old dead horse.

I wonder what those folks who sport shorter IQs are going to believe when they see the name Obama in black and whiteon the November ballot. Are they going to say to themselves, "I can't vote for him 'cuz GORDO says he's a furriner." Or, will they say, "Well, here's his name right here in print. GORDO musta been wrong."

Chloe -- One of the problems faced by indigenous Hawaiians is the bad diet, causing havoc with their health, raising blood pressure, diabetes, obesity, etc.

There is a movement to get back to eating native diets. In the indigenous communities where the native foods have been reintroduced, the health risks have gone down.
http://www.organicconsumers.org/organic/native092404.cfm

The principal native food of Hawaiians is kalo or taro.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poi_(food)

We have to kiss China's butt because we owe them so much money. We really do not care about human rights...just a facade.

Xrep

I'm certain there will be some that look at the ballot and say to themselves, "Barack, that is a funny name kinda strange if you ask me. Now, John, thats a name you can trust.".

How many do so may determine the election.

Jack

I don't think China hosting the Olympics is a bad thing. It may not be a good thing either, but it does seem to fit in with the Olympics' mission:

"The goal of the Olympic Movement is to contribute to building a peaceful and better world by educating youth through sport practised without discrimination or any kind, in a spirit of friendship, solidarity and fair play."

"All sports for all people. This is surely a phrase that people will consider foolishly utopian. That prospect troubles me not at all. I have pondered and studied it at length, and know that it is correct and possible", wrote Pierre de Coubertin in 1919. The future proved him right.

http://www.olympic.org/uk/organisation/movement/index_uk.asp

Alicia..part of the Hawaiin diet includes Spam...the islands comsume more Spam than any other state.

http://www.hawaii-aloha.com/blog/2008/03/20/hawaiis-love-of-spam/

Obama's Foreign Donors: The media averts its eyes

"I have been researching, documenting and studying thousands upon thousands of Obama's campaign donations for the past month. Egregious abuse was immediately evident and I published the results of my ongoing investigation. Each subsequent post built a more damning case against Obama's illegal contribution activity."

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/08/obamas_donor_contributions_sil.html

Jack,
I think seeing things in color, as in black and white, is the key not spelling

mornin' all.

Alicia, I howled at the mention of Zippy's, that being a nickname one of my previous secretaries had for me - to the point that she bought me a Zippy coffee mug - or did I buy it and that was why she called me that? I forget now. If you aren't familiar with Zippy, here he is:

http://www.zippythepinhead.com/

Craig, I know you wrote your column yesterday and are probably sleeping off last night's Olympics (viewing) marathon, but I'm of two minds on China - the first being a mirror of the view expressed in your comment, the second being that inclusion in the world economy will encourage China to move, ponderously perhaps, into the world community as we like to think it ought to be. I don't know, maybe one of my minds is right.

Wasn't Zippy a monkey, or chimpanzee? I thought he was a successor to J. Fred Muggs, but it may have been on some other TV show and not The Today Show.

EdVB

Zippy is famous as a pinhead.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zippy_the_Pinhead

Ed, Zippy was a clown whose primary understanding of life was what he saw in pop culture (a kind of cartoon Chauncey Gardener). Thjere was another Zippy that was a puppet on Rainbow, a BBC kid's program, buthe was pretty indeterminate as animals go. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zippy_(Rainbow) And then there's these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zippy But I'm talkin' about Zippy the Pinhead. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zippy_the_Pinhead . In my book, he's the only real Zippy.

Blondie - good to see you know who the real Zippy is. :-)

Ed, maybe this is the Zippy you're thinking of.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zippy_%28mascot%29

Morning everyone. Have the Russians reached Atlanta yet? I heard they invaded Georgia! Next stop, South Carolina. Be ready, Sturge! But seriously, the Dems got some good hews this morning. A judge ruled that Detroit Mayor Kwamr Kilpatrick can attend the Dem's convention in Denver. Kilpatrick is a SD. Kilpatrick has also asked Michigan Governore Granholm for a pardon or at least immunity if he testifies at his hearing. Unbelievable! As far as the Olympics go, try watching women's beach volleyball with my Mom! All she does is complain about the "skimpy" outfits that they women wear. Her quote was, "You can almost see her butthole!" Then she complained about why the men wear shorts and shirts when they play!

Pogo...Zippy IS the pinhead! I was always surprised when SNL did the coneheads...very zippy-like.

Corey, I see that your dad's death has not caused your mother to lose what sounds like a tremendous view of life.

blondie, yep, there was a resemblance - at least the head shape (albeit not the size) was similar. I loved all of that.

Another brilliant diplomatic victory for BushCo in the Russia-Georgia conflict.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/15/world/europe/15georgia.html?hp

NOT.

Zippy made this line famous....

"Are we having fun yet?,"

Pogo

Pogo
I'm starting to believe that the reason the Russians are still in Georgia is the retoric coming out of Washington.
Everytime Condi opens her mouth the Russians send a convoy across Georgia, just because they can.
We are powerless and clueless to affect anything at this point.
Worse, the Russians are laughing at us. Has there ever been any lamer duck than GW.

Jack

Yeah, the funeral home director got to see what a weird family we are. My sister was making a lot of jokes the other day. Nervous habit, she said. Jokes about how today is her birthday and people should bring gifts tonight. Telling him how she will be 29! I just said to him, "She's the modest child. Welcome to my world!" On a serious note, I did buy a few new clothes yesterday. I'm sure the time will go fast starting this afternoon.

Jack...and Condi IS the Russian expert! All her years of study and she can only speak the language, not understand the people. She should have seen this coming!

So,
Are we having fun yet?

Jack, if there has been a lamer duck than Dumya, I don't know who it could have been. I see that his little chat with his Puti-Put in Beijing put the Georgia issue to rest. And I could just envision Condi stamping her feet and clenching her fists while she said this isn't 1968. Isn't she a Russia specialist? Good thing - she obviously knows how to get to them.

Going home all.
Both Serena and Venus eliminated at the Olympics....what a sad day and those bloody chinese roar at every point, during points and when Venus double faults.... ANGRY!

BW

Yep, She should have been the one working the ceasefire. Instead she is the Johnny come lately to the process. Looks like another Katrina.

January 20, so close yet so far.

Jack

Jack...I think all of fun was had last century.

Blondie - great minds and all that. Yow!!

Yep...Pogo...same wavelength today....our clothes probably match today, as well.

Blake upset Federer.

I wonder how Condi looks like a "pinhead?"

I leave you with this site from Zippy...he does have Obama, McCain and Bush in his famous yellow suit.

http://www.zippythepinhead.com/

Must work....

A political cartoon Bush looking for Putin soul

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/215/gallery/47535-a47797-t3.html

Jack

Well, Zippy is also running for prez...now I have a candidate for November! What a relief! Who needs the juvenile or the old man?

http://zippythepinhead.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=prezprint&Category_Code=cfps&Product_Count=0

Obama and Clinton have come to an agreement that Sen. Clinton's name will be put into nomination. No details yet which means I have a fanciful question:

What will her name be put in nomination as?

It's been a long time since we have had a nomination and vote on Vice President (1980) Might be a nice unique twist on what already promises to be a unique convention.

Okay, it looks like Zippy the Pinhead has been around for a long time, but I was unaware of him until today. It's probably just because he's a link to my youth, but I like Zippy the Chimp better. It could just be a Sean Connery/Roger Moore thing.

Except for wives/husbands, most folks like the first one better.

'What will her name be put in nomination as?"

Don't temp anyone Jamie. lol

lunch, and order new glasses (first time for regular glasses for me - damn I hate this aging gig).

excuse...tempt

"What will her name be put in nomination as?

It's been a long time since we have had a nomination and vote on Vice President (1980) Might be a nice unique twist on what already promises to be a unique convention."

LOL
Jamie that would drive certain folks screaming and gibbering to the corner.

Won't happen but I love the picture.

Jack

Had to do that several years ago, road signs weren't as clear as they used to be. I have 2 pair one for driving and one for reading and closeup work.

Jack

to Julie Young and others asking about Helen, she's coming home today. here's the statement:

"Washington, DC -- Dean of the White House Press Corps and Hearst Columnist, Helen Thomas, is being released from Sibley Hospital’s Renaissance Center for Rehabilitation today. Thomas will continue to recuperate at home before returning to work and resuming her column.

Thomas suffered from a colon infection which sidelined her for several months. She is expected to make a full recovery, and said, “I look forward to returning to the fray sooner, rather than later.”

During her recuperation, Helen Thomas will be working on her next book. She is the author of five other books, including her new children’s work (co-authored with syndicated editorial cartoonist, Chip Bok), THE GREAT WHITE HOUSE BREAKOUT.

Thomas is also the subject of an upcoming HBO documentary by Rory Kennedy, THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. The film airs on HBO on Monday, August 18th at 9:00 pm."

Just for the serious record. The 1980 Convention was the last time there was an actual roll call for the renomination of Walter Mondale. Since then, it has been by acclimation of the Presidential candidate's choice, but there is still a vote.

on the 1980 vote: Mondale was re-nominated with 2,428.7 votes to 723.3 not voting and 179 scattering among other choices.

Things got interesting in 1984 in a situation similar to this year with Jesse Jackson's people demanding that he receive the Vice Presidency as his reward for coming in second, the Dukakis campaign decided to nominate Senator Bentsen by voice vote, rather than roll call vote.

One more sitch where Condi will prove her uselessness.

"GORI, Georgia - Russia's foreign minister declared Thursday that the world "can forget about" Georgia's territorial integrity..."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080814/ap_on_re_eu/georgia_russia

Otherwise, why even bother to have a convention?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080814/ap_on_el_pr/clinton_obama

Dog

NO. I'm in Washington. Hope to get to California this week, but some family things came up, so everything is up in the air.

Thom Hartman is working the theme that the little Georgian push that got the unexpected strong Russian push back was the bright idea of Rove and/or Campaign to bring back a short cold war so that McCain would have an election issue since Iraq and the economy weren't working out so well.

Seems Rove was over in that part of the world chit chatting and then once it started McCain's "We are all Georgians" speech was meant to echo the reagan "Tear Down This Wall" meme

Interesting idea.

Clinton's Name to be Put in Nomination:

http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docid=news-000002938120

Dog

One way or another it will be Asilomar in November if nothing else.

Anyone want to do a get together? Gorgeous beach, Monterey Aquarium and Wharf, Lunch or Dinner at Fandangos in Pacific Grove, retire by the fire for conversation.

“Hell, just this morning I had to explain to someone that Georgia was ALSO a nation to the north and east of the country of Turkey, and NOT JUST A STATE IN 'MERIKUH and that the state of Georgia, USA, was NOT being invaded by Communists from Russia.”

This is probably someone who will most likely vote in November thinking that Obama is a Muslim, voting for McSame believing in his go-gett’im attitude to strike at Russia (or any other place in the world where he wants to look tuff) and that our armies are unlimited resources. We HAVE to get along with China because we owe them almost 50% of our national debt.

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np

Craig, Weren't you working on something with Helen Thomas, too? Glad she is on the mend; we need all of our real journalists in working order.

yep, blue, we're workin up a book proposal together. she's so much fun to work with. a national treasure.

count me in for Trail Mix western roundup. sounds fun.

"Julia - was this person you talked with having hissy screaming fits of fear, and ready to go fight off the evil monster Russia?"

No, Bethyboo, not even that. It was more of a sort of apathetic "Wha...?", along the lines of "Is this going to affect local traffic or something...?" That kind of thing. It is kinda funny (and hard to believe) now that I think about it (and have sobered up to a degree), but what originally upset me wasn't really the lack of knowlege about the situation, but the lack of concern:

"Georgia...? Is that, like, GEORGIA? That's here in America, right...?"

"No, Georgia as in the independent state of Georgia that was once a part of the Soviet Union, that's next to Turkey in the Middle East (please tell me you've at least HEARD of the Middle East)..."

"Oh. Okay. I guess there'd be a lot more news about it if the Communists were invading the REAL Georgia."

*dies a little inside*

Clinton's Name to be Put in Nomination:
http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docid=news-000002938120
Posted by: Craig Crawford | August 14, 2008 12:48 PM

Yes, after agreement with the Obama Campaign!!!

“The joint statement quoted Clinton saying, “With every voice heard and the Party strongly united, we will elect Senator Obama President of the United States and put our nation on the path to peace and prosperity once again.”

"This truly was a joint decision," according to the Clinton source.”

OK, wait. Sarkozy is the tough-guy?

"But Robert Gates said he did not see a need for US military force in Georgia."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7561586.stm

Oh, yeah...we're tapped out on troops because of Iraq. We have become America, the impotent. This is just sad.

There are four weekends following the election and people could arrive early or depart late as it fit in with their plans.

Nov 8/9, 15/16, 22/23, and 29/30 Thanksgiving enters in there plus prep for Christmas/Chanukah/Kwaanza/Festivus (take your pick)

Weekends tend to book fast and are more expensive at Asilomar but I don't know if people can do a mid week which is easier to get.

Ideas anyone?

jamie/dog/cc - Oh, that sounds like fun. To chat without having to use word verifier.

Just checked. Right now reservations are pretty well wide open for November 11 - 26.

If your have never been, Asilomar sits in a California State park with direct unobstructed access to the beach on Monterey Bay

http://www.visitasilomar.com/

Easiest mode of transportation - Fly to San Jose and rent car for drive over mountains or San Francisco and rent car for drive down the coast.

For Californians there is also AMTRAK Train/Bus that is a major pain in the patootie but if you don't like driving, it works.

If there is any way we can book as a group, the rates go down and include meals as booked at the beautiful cafeteria. Otherwise rates tend to be about $130 per night for two. (slightly higher or lower depending on dates)

"Clinton's Name to be Put in Nomination:

http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docid=news-000002938120 "

So have all the Clinton stories last week been someone trying to derail this agreement?

Jack

Dog

15/16 works for me though I will probably add one or two days.

Craig,

Would those dates work for you? Family?

Who is your guess for Obama's VP?

Mine

Evan Byah

Middle of the road Democrat, from a state that could swing Obama's way and one that McCain needs or he is toast.

Jack

yeah, i like Nov 15/16 for a TM Western Roundup. all i've got after the election in Nov is a Tina Turner concert on the 23d in DC

Okay November 15/16 it is. If I can get a tentative count, I'll check on availability and group rate.

I'll keep reminding people for the next week for any part time readers.

The Risks of the Roll Call Vote:

(a) The something is discovered, revealed or verified that severely damages the presumptive nominee
and/or
(b) Credible Polling at Convention time that casts serious doubts on the Obama-touted win scenario that doesn't need Ohio, Florida, Michigan or Pennsylvania.

In (a) Hillary wins the roll call for the Presidency. In (b), the Party enters Hillary's name for roll call vote for VP.

Hillary just will not go away.

The crazies are getting ready for the gathering.

"Police confirmed Wednesday that they found about a pound of sodium cyanide in a Denver hotel room where the body of a Canadian man "

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/17181011/detail.html?rss=den&psp=news

Jack

Pretty Pictures

Asilomar State Beach

http://www.portcommodore.com/gallery/asilomar3.jpg

How you get there:
Walk out of room, step on path and

http://www.mccullagh.org/db9/1ds2-5/asilomar-conference-center.jpg

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/08/an-olympic-dream.html#comment-128050

Jack -
That's the glasses stuff I currently have, but I'm tired of losing/breaking cheapo reading glasses and the coating on my driving glasses is scratched, hazy, etc., so I'm facing reality and getting glasses I don't have to swap one for the other (except for sunglasses, to which I am deeply addicted). Sigh.

Jack (re: your 1:54), no one told the guy not to lick his fingers, I suppose. That's one of the problems with trying to learn how to create mayhem from internet sites - OSHA doesn't make sure they promote safe workplaces.

"Open Secrets: US troops stationed abroad gave 6 times more money to Obama than McCain; also more funds to Ron Paul than McCain.

Marine Corps only service (troops abroad) giving more to McCain. By a $4,000 margin."

Dog, aren't just the reportable contributions included here? Can hardly draw conclusions about total support by specific classifications if all the people contributing less than a couple hundred bucks are excluded.

Wise military people make their contributions multiple times with each contribution being below the reportable threshold. Although the campaigns are supposed to report the total of all contributions when determining if a contributor meets the $200 threshold, my experience has been that they seldom do so.

Craig

Thank you for the update on Helen. I have always admired her. Please pass along our love and best wishes for fast recovery...

julie

Putin's War Enabler

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/08/14/bush_putin/

George Bush may be the global equivalent of Typhoid Mary.

GORDO,

I have a homework assignment for you. Since you have successfully proven that Obama is polygamist muslim terrorist from Indonesia, I need you to use your exhaustive research skills for the following:

It seems that the one type of pornography you can't find is Albino midget porn. I have a bet with someone that the winner of the first to find it online gets $50. If you can use your blog network and google skills to find it, I'll split the money with you...

So how about it?

Jamie....
the picture of the beach looks yummi.....
I work my hardest the month of November.... I will really have to think about making that trip.....

Corey..... your mother sounds like someone with a good sense of humor.....

Bear,

Re your request to Gordo

http://images.google.com/images?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGIH_enUS211US212&q=Albino+Midgets

OMG Jamie, that is HILARIOUS!

Bear, better try again ;-)

However, I don't see any positive outcome in trying to engage Gordo in any discussion or postings that are outside his "cut and paste" entries in this blog.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121867081398238807.html?mod=opinion_main_commentaries

McCain's first paragraph:

For anyone who thought that stark international aggression was a thing of the past, the last week must have come as a startling wake-up call. After clashes in the Georgian region of South Ossetia, Russia invaded its neighbor, launching attacks that threaten its very existence. Some Americans may wonder why events in this part of the world are any concern of ours. After all, Georgia is a small, remote and obscure place. But history is often made in remote, obscure places.

McCain's first paragraph, edited to correct jingoistic historical blindness:

For anyone who thought that stark international aggression was a thing of the past, the last five years must have come as a startling wake-up call. After a Saudi Arabian headed terrorist organization based in Afghanistan carried out an attack on New York City, the US invaded Afghanistan, then left a few troops behind and went to Iraq (which had no connection whatsoever to the attacks on New York) launching attacks that deposed its leaders and threatened its very existence. Some Americans may wonder why events in this part of the world are any concern of ours. After all, Iraq is a relatively small, remote and obscure place, unconnected to the attacks against the US. But history is often made in remote, obscure places by petty tyrants who can't figure out anything else constructive to do for our country.

And the rest of the article is equally ironic and delusional - it's certainly worth a read.

dog wrote at 2:59: "Asks one reader in comments section: Will John Edwards' name be put into nomination too?"

Of course John Edwards' name should be placed in nomination to honor the achievement of yet one more philandering white guy failing for a second time to win enough primaries - exactly none - or delegates - exactly 6 - to make a credible presidential run.

~~~~~~~~

I believe Edwards has officially dropped out of the race and released his delegates. All 6 of them.

But I don't see a problem with his name being placed on the ballot.

Jack

"A second report confirms the registration number 203 seen in the photo. On April 29, 2008, Christiane Oelrich’s report appeared on News 24.com, which included an interview with Obama’s Indonesian teacher, Israella Darmawan:

Darmawan, 64, who retired last year, now only returns to her former school to tell current pupils about their famous alumnus. She takes a faded book from a shelf, the school register dating back to 1968…Under registration number 203 it reads in large-lettered handwriting: “Barry Soetoro.”

A third report from the Jakarta Post confirms that Obama’s teacher liked to show this registration document to reporters.

Obama has made every concerted effort to cover up his background from the American people. He says he was never a Muslim and was never raised as a Muslim. He makes the claim on his website that: “Senator Obama has never been a Muslim, was not raised as a Muslim, and is a committed Christian.” Lie.

The American public has a right to know that the potential president has lied about his background repeatedly during the primaries ..."

http://redhotandbluepolitics.com/2008/08/14/obama-indonesian-citizen/

"An Open Letter to All Airline Travelers"

You guys may have discussed this long ago, but I came across it today and figured I'd pass it on. To save some the read, it's a proactive effort by airlines to stop oil speculation.

http://www.montereyairport.com/documents/An_Open_letter_to_All_Airline_Customers.pdf

Edwards may object to his name being placed in nomination. I suspect he is trying to keep a low profile. Any time Elizabeths hand is near a hard throwable object, I would imagine.

Jack

I dunno jack, I kinda like the idea of placing Edwards' name - and the rest of the candidates - in nomination. In fact, please place Edwards' name in nomination - seeing him lose a third time will be very gratifying, particularly considering the latest disclosure of his capacity for commitment.

Actually he had 61 SDs and Pledged. They were released when he dropped out. The majority moved to Obama over the next several months, but they are free to vote any way that they want on the roll call.

http://www.demconwatchblog.com/2008/05/what-happens-to-edwards-delegates.html

Ya know
I've never understood the Edwards campaign getting the attention it did. Edwards is the only person in the race this year that is less qualified than Obama to be president. Also he was terrible as the VP candidate. The only thing he had going for him is the fact that if Elizabeth is supporting him there must be something there.

Oh well

Jack

Ummm, Gordo. Not to pick nits or anything, but doesn't line 3 refer to his birthplace? (I admit I can't read the language it's in, but that seems to be what it refers to). And doesn't it list that as Honolulu? And isn't that where he claims to be born? And wasn't that the whole purpose of the fourteen gazillion links you've posted here - to "prove" he isn't a US citizen because the COLB that was posted was supposedly Photo Shopped?? And doesn't this kind of support his contention that he was born in Hawaii? Or did his mom start this whole conspiracy to say he's an American Citizen born on American soil so he can run for president when he grows up back when he was a child? Man, give it up.

Jamie

Thats wiki for you

Your sight gave him 16 pledged + what ever was decided in florida.
SDs don't count they aren't real

Jack

Jamie, not to pick nits, but no one has superdelegates until they cast their votes - probably why CNN lists Edwards as having 6 pledged delgates only. Unless I'm reading the article you linked wrong, even DCW noted that - and they had him at 19 (updated to 4.5 on 6/6/08), including SDs, not 61.

I just got back from the funeral home. We did a family time at 3:00. My Mom is stressing out right now. I was driving her to the funeral home and she asked me, "Where the hell are you going? Why didn't you turn on Lakewood?" I think there is a reason why I let my Mom and sister take charge of things. My brother-in-law and I are gonna have to be the calm ones tonight.

CNN kept saying Edwards had 21 delegates when all the back and forth over exactly how many Clinton and Obama had and where would they go in the final tally.

Of course it finally came down to the fact that neither Obama or Clinton had enough delegates to win without the Super Delegates and they were the ones who decided the final tally not the voting public.

And in the end, since they will now have a roll call, all of the delegates can do anything they want. to do plus all of the above could change on 30 seconds notice to AP just to keep us all confused.

.

So have all the Clinton stories last week been someone trying to derail this agreement?

Jack

Jack, That was my take on it all, just a little more negative media to ensure that no more SDs change their mind.

If anyone is interested, Heidi Li Feldman will be on Hardball tonight. She is a Prof. of law and philosophy at Georgetown, and the co-founder of The Denver Group which has been very active in pursuing Hillary's name in nomination and the roll call.

Pogo,

I don't want to talk about how we got into Iraq, or the mess that's been made of it for the past few years, or why we didn't focus on Afghanistan.

I do want to talk about how we will keep faith with the former Soviet republics that we seduced into our camp. Republics such as Georgia. And we need to talk about former member states of the Soviet Union. Countries such as Poland and the Czech Republic.

These countries are at tremendous risk because of our having 'won' the Cold War, taking them under our wing, then proceeding to disarm and remove the conventional forces from Central Europe that protected them.

We need to talk about whether we are willing to abandon these countries and their populations to a resurgent Soviet-like Russia.

We need to reflect on whether spending four-percent of our GDP on defense, including the wars we are now in, is adequate. Looking in the historical context, for the last half of the last century, we spent more than twice that percentage and still thrived economically.

We should reevaluate whether our defense leadership is correct when they, in order to achieve the four percent level, say that we no longer need tanks and artillery and airplanes to maintain the peace. That all we need are perhaps 200 really fancy airplanes carrying some really great conventional munitions when they are opposite a Russia controlling forces several times the size of ours and much more heavily armed.

We need to decide if we can abandon Europe and the Middle East. Whether our historical ties to Western Europe are worth contesting the Russians over, or if we need a physical presence in the Middle East to guarantee the flow of oil in our direction.

All those questions without mentioning China, Korea and Japan. Much less the Philippines and Australia and New Zealand.

All these questions must be addressed. And they must be addressed no matter what we do in Iraq and Afghanistan.

And pointing fingers on how we got into Iraq just detracts from the discussion.

Oh, and Pogo, I didn't read Mr McCain's paper or Mr Obama's or Mrs Clinton's. Those aren't their positions--they are just scribblings put together by committees that try to make something that looks impressive.

These are my own thoughts. Improve upon them.

Real Clear Delegate count by SD and State pledged if nothing changes on the roll call.which of course it will.

http://www.demconwatchblog.com/2008/05/what-happens-to-edwards-delegates.html

Probable developments for those who have never seen a recall. On Wednesday night, If there are formal nomination speeches then Clinton will be nominated (lots of noise, sign waving, and yahooing). Obama will be nominated (more yahooing, sign waving and general merriment).

They will start with Alabama and proceed alphabetically through the states until they get to Illinois who will pass. They will then continue alphabetically until they get close to the point of Obama winning the nomination at which point the next state in line will yield to the state of Illinois. Illinois will then cast its votes giving Obama the nomination (lots of yahooing going on). Once the demonstration is over, the roll call of the states will continue and then the final tally will be announced.

A good time was had by all. Everybody happy.
Go listen to Obama acceptance speech on Thursday night, lots of whoop it up. Adjourn and go elect a President.

Lots can happen in two weeks. Wake Up Democrats..

Hillary Clinton 2008

Gordo

You would have to get into the nitty gritty of citizenship law about any changes, but if someone is an American citizen, they are an American citizen unless they renounce that citizenship. It doesn't matter where in the world they live for whatever reason.

Now many countries allow minors to be naturalized as citizens under a parents application. The parent can swear allegiance to the new country on behalf of the family, but this is not binding on the child once they reach their majority. In any case, the child would remain a US citizen until they chose to either retain the new citizenship as an adult.

If Soetero were a Phillippine citizen, there would be no need for him to apply for citizenship, so young Barrack would not be a Philippine citizen. He probably traveled on his mother's passport who was a US citizen. She specifically made the effort to return to Hawaii for the birth of her daughter who is a US citizen for that reason.

IOW. Give it up. All children born to Ann Dunham are and continue to be "natural born citizens" of the United States.

On the religious front. Just being in a school where a religion is featured particularly before the age of 10 doesn't make you a practitioner of that religion. Everyone who goes to a parochial school is not Catholic.

Corey -- about your mom's funny lines about the Olympics...

When my sister and I went to pick out my mom'c casket, I said to my sister, "Oh, god, all I can think of is she can't breathe in any of these."

I was only half joking.

jamie - I'm in...unless the airfares get crazier. Not as bad now as last spring.

Okay Blue,

I'll start keeping a list of people. I assume you are coming alone. Would you like to share a room?

"She specifically made the effort to return to Hawaii for the birth of her daughter who is a US citizen for that reason."

==============================

Maya Kassandra Soetoro-Ng (born August 15, 1970 in Jakarta, Indonesia)[1] is the half sister of Democratic Party nominee Barack Obama, the junior United States Senator from Illinois.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_Soetoro-Ng

==============================

"The document lists Barry Soetoro as a Indonesian citizen, born on August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, and shows his Muslim step-father listed the boy’s religion as Islam.”

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/08/13/breaking-photo-documents-barry-soetoro-indonesian/

Gordo

That still doesn't make it his religion. It just makes it what his stepfather, with whom he had almost no relationship) listed.. It was none of Obama's doing and he has no responsibility for it.

Whatever. It is still incredibly stupid and irrational and has no bearing of any kind on the election. I'm just completely astounded that anyone gives it any creedence at all, but if you are enjoying the delusion have fun.

"That still doesn't make it his religion."

There are many reasons to believe otherwise - documents, interviews with Indonesians and statements made by Barack Obama / Barry Soetoro.

It's about lying.

Why did the Army cover up this murder and why isn't john mccain willing to tell us the truth about it?

http://www.lavenajohnson.com/2007/03/cover-up-of-soldiers-death.html

leslie king lied about being gerry ford.

james janos lied about being jesse ventura.

Flatus

Good points on foriegn policy issues.

Our current problem is we have no stable foriegn policy. It is all in shambles.

Can you tell me our current policy toward Russia or China just to name 2 major powers that we may find ourselves having conflicting interests. Where does Europe fit in our current world view?

Lots of questions but I don't see many answers.

Jack

Gordo, hang in there, you never know what will show up. Techdude and his family were threatened, someone wanted him to stop for some reason. Any word on its authenticity yet?

"There are many reasons to believe otherwise "

Only to the true believers.

There is not a real Republican out there that believes your stuff and many have call you on your BS.

Jack

LOL
Everybody needs a hobby, It looks like this is where they meet.

Jack

THEY (Repubs and others) are waiting for Barack Obama / Barry Soetoro to be the nominee.
================
No word yet.

Byrds-Mr Spaceman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs2NNUCDzis

Just seems right

Jack

No, sorry to disappoint but it isn't my hobby nor would it be if I had the time. I work about 12 hours a day, in between batches of cooling chocolate I sit down, rest my feet and surf the web. As I said yesterday I really don't give it much credence but am aware of it and have noted the development of the different theories. Besides, no one really knows what someone might turn up. I don't know if it is true or not but I've read the repubs have been over in Jakarta off and on for 6 months. I'd like to stay ahead of them if I can.

oldsea, You're right. No one knows for sure. I imagine there's a lot of things (on all sides) that will surface about all the candidates in the future. I mean, this thing with Edwards was sure a surprise. It would be silly for us to think that we know everything there is to know. Especially when you realize that we depend on the media to keep us informed.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/08/an-olympic- dream.html#comment-127942

Marcia, When I was here earlier today, I missed your 2:46AM post for some reason. Thanks. I always like hearing what you have to say.

Trailmix challenge: Try to go one month without buying anything "made in China."
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/trailmix/2008/08/an-olympic- dream.html#comment-127960

Alicia. YES. It would be an improvement anyway, and I've been thinking about do it for a while. Everything I buy made in China lately seems to fall apart or be defective when I get it home. (And don't forget how that additive they added to our pet food here killed a lot of people's pets). What happened to quality control.

The only problem is, on electronics for instance, even if they're not made in China, the parts they use to asemble them are. But a boycott will be easy.

GORDO,

Have you considered the possiblity that Obama's step-dad lied, rather than Obama ?

Obama the toddler did not fill out that document, didn't swear it was the truth, and is not responsible for any portion of it. Old step-dad planned the boy's religious life, but was thwarted in his designs. American's don't have children choose their religions, like you guys do.

Regarding lies, they are not a bar to becoming president. IF Obama lied, so what? Clinton lied about the Sarjevo snipers, mccain lies about Iran & al qaeda, oil drilling, torture, his record, his heroism. In fact, he spreads a new lie every few minutes. bob barr lied that Bill Clinton's perjury made him unfit to be president, and ralph nadir lied that there wasn't a dime's worth of difference between Gore and babybush. IF they all lied, so what?

U.S. Has Forfeited Its Moral Authority
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/08/everyones-a-cri.html

Chloe, funny, I was going to mention the Edwards deal, but the kitchen bell rang!

Anyways, I'm curious what their Oct. surprise will be!

IF they all lied, so what?
Posted by: xrepublican | August 14, 2008 6:20 PM

I going to have to think about that for a while.

I've gotta feed Sweetie, anyway.

Waiter! Check, please.

sea, I know what you mean.

Well, for starters its not prudent to lie on one's bar application, automatic removal.

Corey, I thought the very same thing your mother said.

Where are y'all going in November?

tt

Somewhere West, I see.

tt

Democrats Soften Edges on Abortion

"The Democratic Party is planning a convention designed to soften the edges on the party's support for abortion rights, with a revamped platform and a speaking lineup that reinforces efforts to broaden Democrats' appeal on the hot-button issue."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=5573597&page=1

Chloe, not surprised- they have Warner as guest speaker on the 88th Ann. of the womens vote, and i understand he is anti abortion.

sea, I imagine they have to do whatever it takes to win this election.

New Books Aim To Unweave the Obama Narrative
"Especially in politics, you have a crowded book market and there's probably room for five or six takes that can be totally different," Smith said. "It's ultimately up to the reader to decide which one he likes."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/13/AR2008081303959_pf.html

Well, I have to go. But I thought I'd leave one about the same thing that pissed some off so much yesterday.

Yeah I guess, it's still a kick in the a$$ to women.

For the science buffs: 5000 year old cemetery found in Sahara

http://www.livescience.com/history/080814-ap-sahara-cemetary.html

It should come as no surprise that the DNC is throwing women under the proverbial bus.

In case you wonder what the PUMAs are plotting for Denver here is a collection of them that range from relatively reasonable to off the edge of a flat earth wacko.

http://justsaynodeal.com/index2.html

Come back and tell all of the sweet Clintonistas here how really sane and reasonable we are if only by comparison. lol

Dog

If nothing else we agree totally about Corsi being a waste of human flesh.

Schuster is one big whine tonight. His guests moaning and groaning about how everthing is about the "Clintons" and while we are talking about them we aren't talking about anything else blah blah blah

Well whose fault is that? If the media didn't want the noise they wouldn't be making the noise. They are the ones making Sen. Obama look weak when all anyone really asked for was a speaking role for her and a roll call of the delegates. Everything else has been a media creation of angst and dissention.

The truth seems to be that the corporate critters want McCain and the only way that is even vaguely possible is to put down O, make the C's look angry, and pump up the McCain response to the Russian invasion.

Yea !! Patsi. Another glass ceiling busted.
1st woman to win.. ROFLMAO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnTUV5mKypY

After all the wallowing and whinging from the media today, Rachel Maddow finally had the honesty to read the information about the convention agreement

Hillary's name will be put in nomination

Sometime before the roll call she will release her delegates to vote as they like

There will be a formal roll call

As a super delegate she will cast her vote for Obama.

Voila: Peace in Our Time

Buckwheat Zydeco - Hey Good Lookin'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJcxtOLoXrM

Exxon John

DNC utuber

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnTUV5mKypY

MOJO & The Bayou Gypsies TAKE ME TO THE ZYDECO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGfdwbnHOpk

Jack

sorry wrong copy

Exxon John

DNC utuber

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtXOBH6U89Y

LOL @ Rezdog

86 No more for me tonite ! lol

Patsi to Rez: Oink.

Oooh, a C-Listers gathering in my own back yard? Count me in! Maybe I can talk hubby into going with me this time...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnTUV5mKypY

Trail Mix Patsi?

Julia

Write me

webthings at comcast dot net

I'll put you down tentative for 2

Poster?

http://www.salagir.com/gfx/troll-web.jpg

lol @ Patsi

Why does Larry King have Michael Reagan on to talk
about Hillary Clinton's being on the roll call? He's an even greater doofus than he looks!

I walked into the dentist's office @ 3:30 on the dot, and out @ 4:30. Amazing.

The amazing part was that I had a root canal in between entering and leaving!

poster, Rez beat you to the oink contest by at least one soooouuuueeeee.

Bethy

Just goes to show what $800 can do!

What's this about a roll call? Tonight went fine. Most everybody showed up from 7:00-8:00. We only had about 4 people after 8:00.

Flatus - Well, it cost me $282 with my insurance. I want to tell you he did the real work looking thru
binoculars attached to a miscroscope which looked into my mouth. Maybe you all have experienced that before, but I haven't. There was no real pain either, altho I have to admit I have a very high pain tolerance and others might not have thought it was so painless. He also used a block (from pediatric dentistry) to prop my mouth open so I didn't have to hold it open.

Neat interview with Garrison Kiellor on PBS on out local station.

Corey

Here is the story.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/15/us/politics/15clinton.html?ref=us

That's pretty mean of Obama to allow that.

Hillary’s Growing Shadow

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/13/hillary%e2%80%99s-growing-shadow/

http://hillbuzz.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/bho-space1.jpg?w=500&h=313

Signs of resignation G Man.

Jamie - I am real no on DC, but Asilomar is a strong possibility - a single.

Bethy--The endodontist I went to used the new fancy high-tech stuff as well. Their skill really makes a strong case for specialization.

I won't have to worry about such things anymore -- I've had everything replaced with implants, a dozen of them. Had the permanent bottom teeth installed yesterday. The entire mess is screwed to the implants and are not removable except in the doc's office. Much more friendly than regular dentures.

Next month I start on the prosthesis for the uppers--it will be installed permanently as well.

It's been a long process--more than two years and included a bunch of extractions and bone grafts. Not as painful as it sounds because experts were doing it.

Hopefully, dental problems will be a thing of the past.

resignation - A formal document giving notice of your intention to resign.
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Is there news about Obama/Soetoro dropping out of the race and leaving the Senate?

Is this why?

"Obama Lies to Ill. Supreme Ct. about Former Name?

If the AP document showing that Barack Obama was once Barry Soetoro (see our Breaking Story, Photo Documents Barry Soetoro, Indonesian Citizen, Muslim Religion)…is legitimate, it would appear that Obama/Soetoro lied to the Illinois Supreme Court when he registered for the Bar.

As this form shows, Obama did not provide information about his former name, Barry Soetoro: (see link)"

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/08/13/obama-lies-to-ill-supreme-ct-about-former-name/

NEW THREAD

"As this form shows, Obama did not provide information about his former name, Barry Soetoro: (see link)"

Oops!. Oh well back to the drawing board.
Damn G Man Obama was admitted to the bar in 1899. What's up with that?

http://www.iardc.org/ldetail.asp?id=338752866

All these records are 20+ years old. Who's to say what's accurate.

BTW G Man,

I forgot to inquire about you buddy Larry Sinclair. How's he doing? Has he taken any limo rides lately? LOL

Since you asked - this is a link to Sinclair's new site:

http://larrysinclair0926.com/28401.html

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Here is a link to Sinclair's interviews.

http://rense.com/Datapages/sinclairdat.htm

Flatus - how cool that you are going to have super good choppers. Were the implants tedious to have done and were they done one by one? I think I want one instead of a bridge.

This endodontist said he tried general dentistry for a while but went back to specializing. He finds doing root canals kinda meditative. HA! I'd die before I looked into a bunch of horrible mouths.

Rezdog -------------------------

Something has happened to that link - was OK early Thursday.